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Speaker 1: This is John.

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Speaker 1: We have some rocking stories for you coming up.

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Speaker 3: My siblings slept with my ex during my engagement party,

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Speaker 3: so I went nuclear. I female thirty six and my fiance,

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Speaker 3: Hugh male forty hors set to get married in late July,

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Speaker 3: and it's been wonderful. We've been together for five years

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Speaker 3: and I am head over heels for this man. He

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Speaker 3: loves my family and.

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Speaker 1: I love his.

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Speaker 3: We now have our own home, hours away from my hometown,

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Speaker 3: two dogs, and all but the white picket fence to

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Speaker 1: I have to add backstory.

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Speaker 3: When I was in high school, I dated a boy

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Speaker 3: in my grade, Edwood now male thirty six, and we

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Speaker 3: were together forever. We went to the same university and

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Speaker 3: eventually got an apartment together. We graduated, he graduated a

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Speaker 3: year after me. Longer story and talked about marriage. I

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Speaker 3: wanted to marry him, and since we got our own apartment,

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Speaker 3: he'd been talking about marriage after we graduate. Well, we graduated,

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Speaker 3: and then he starts talking about marriage after we get

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Speaker 3: steady grown up jobs. I got my job, but he

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Speaker 3: remained in his service industry job, which was fine to me.

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Speaker 3: He eventually got a full time job there as a

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Speaker 3: senior bar manager, and I was.

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Speaker 1: So ecstatic for him.

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Speaker 3: I then mentioned that now that we both have our

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Speaker 3: adult jobs, we can renew the talk of marriage. He

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Speaker 3: shut that down. He kept saying that his job is

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Speaker 3: still an in between job and he wanted a job

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Speaker 3: in the field he studied, which is business. I was

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Speaker 3: confused and asked how he isn't in that job. He

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Speaker 3: argued that he wants to make at least sixty thousand

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Speaker 3: a year before we get married. He made a little

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Speaker 3: under fifty at the time, and I told him I

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Speaker 3: was getting tired of waiting. I tried to give him time,

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Speaker 3: but I did want to get married. It was important

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Speaker 3: to me. We argued, and he admitted that he didn't

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Speaker 3: want to get married. He loved me, but didn't want

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Speaker 3: marriage was broken, and we carried on for a little

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Speaker 3: less than a month before. I told him that I

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Speaker 3: loved him so much, but I want marriage, and since

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Speaker 3: he's changed his mind, our ideas of the future are

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Speaker 3: no longer a line. He asked me to stay and

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Speaker 3: suggested we simply lie and say we eloped to family

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Speaker 3: and friends. But that's just about the stupidest thing I've

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Speaker 3: ever heard in my life, because that completely misses the freaking.

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Speaker 1: Part, which is your wife wants to be married, idiot.

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Speaker 3: It took me a while to get past the failed

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Speaker 3: relationship for a lot of reasons. He was my first

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Speaker 3: in many senses, and I truly thought we would have

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Speaker 3: that high school sweetheart love story. The breakup was MESSI,

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Speaker 3: who's petty about everything. He basically took everything when he

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Speaker 3: moved out, claiming he put in twenty dollars so it

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Speaker 3: should be his, but since he uses it the most.

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Speaker 3: It was miserable, but I tried to stay calm as

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Speaker 3: he moved out quickly, so it was over quickly. Still,

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Speaker 3: did finally get over him. Hugh and I met about

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Speaker 3: a year later, and we eventually started dating. We both

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Speaker 3: went in wanting a courtship that would move into getting

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Speaker 3: married eventually. Edward was likely aware of me dating Hugh

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Speaker 3: because my social media wasn't private, and he's still good

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Speaker 3: friends with my brother and knows my sister as she's

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Speaker 3: a year older than us. My parents still liked him,

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Speaker 3: and thus he was around for community events and such.

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Speaker 1: Now, onder the issue. Wow, none of that was even

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Speaker 1: the issue.

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Speaker 3: Mom wanted to throw an engagement party, and it happened

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Speaker 3: the day before Father's Day. My mom did ask if

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Speaker 3: it was okay if Edward came, and I said, I

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Speaker 3: wasn't entirely comfortable with having my ex at my engagement party.

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Speaker 4: Yeah no, DOOI you're so silly, op you that make

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Speaker 3: So it was one heck of a hoot Nanny that party.

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Speaker 3: Mama kept mixing drinks and added to her old party punch.

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Speaker 3: I myself got a little souchey. We danced and did

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Speaker 3: karaoke well into the night, and I was singing You'll

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Speaker 3: into the backyard and his face was enraged. I finished

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Speaker 3: much needed cold water, when eventually my brother Quincy came out.

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Speaker 1: He froze when he saw me and just slumped and said,

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Speaker 1: I guess you know.

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Speaker 3: But when I stared at him and laughed, like what

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Speaker 3: do you mean, he told me that last night he

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Speaker 3: walked in on Edward and my sister Emma female thirty seven,

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Speaker 3: that Quincy came to find him to tell him what happened,

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Speaker 3: and they went to my parents and despite everyone looking

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Speaker 3: for Edward and Emma, so them we're gone. That's around

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Speaker 3: the time Hugh found me.

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Speaker 5: Whoa whoa whoa?

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Speaker 6: Emma is, sister O fiance is?

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Speaker 1: Hugh is not Edward?

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Speaker 5: Okay, so who's Edward the ex ex.

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Speaker 6: Hang man at the engagement party?

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Speaker 1: So like the does the family still like him after this?

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Speaker 6: Like yeah, maybe it's a different route.

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Speaker 3: They're like secretly cheering about the When I checked my phone,

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Speaker 3: Edward had texted that night looking for me, asking to

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Speaker 3: that it was important. Then he texted that he was

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Speaker 3: about this mistake I was making, and then he hooked

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Speaker 3: she sleeps with, as it's not my business and Edward

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Speaker 3: is not my problem anymore. But she should know about

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Speaker 3: what he texted me, and I sent her the screenshots

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Speaker 3: of his text. I also told her that it was

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Speaker 3: disrespectful in any case to do any of this at

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Speaker 3: my engagement party. Yeah, but it was especially disrespectful that

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Speaker 3: it was my ex and she is my sister.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he just got caught up in it. He's like, man,

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Speaker 1: you look so much like.

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Speaker 5: The bride to be dang man.

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Speaker 1: And it's a little I'm a little tipsy. Oh, I'll

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Speaker 1: just take it. He probably still has feelings for Ropie

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Speaker 1: hot Take. Well, probably are you kidding? Okay, I just

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Speaker 3: So Q and I got back home yesterday afternoon, and

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Speaker 3: he took me to see Thunderbolts last night to make

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Speaker 3: physically okay, but she doesn't want to speak to us

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Speaker 3: this because this is not my sister at all, and frankly,

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Speaker 3: I don't care what Edward does. I've already blocked him

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Speaker 3: for my own mental health. After showing Hugh his texts,

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Speaker 3: Quincy's suggesting I take time to calm down and not overreact,

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Speaker 3: but to be honest, I've hardly had the bandwidth to

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Speaker 3: really react at all. He's telling me that he loves me,

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Speaker 3: But if I care who sleeps with my ex or

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Speaker 3: to reconsider an engagement because it sounds like I'm not

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Speaker 1: Am I crazy here? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: No, this is a problem with your sister. Edward is

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Speaker 3: a non factor. Really, your family sucks for keeping him around. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: after you guys had a messy breakup. Yeah, I've really

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Speaker 3: never had a messy messes he break up. Yeah, but

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Speaker 3: they were so nice, I'd be like, yeah they were

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Speaker 3: until they did this. Remember, right, don't you love me?

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Speaker 3: Can't you see what they did?

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Speaker 5: What they did wrong?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Man, come on, guys, it's not cool. That's like family code.

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Speaker 4: We got bro code, we got girl clothed, that's family code. Man.

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Speaker 1: My parents did not invite Edward.

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Speaker 3: Mom asked because she was asked by her close friend

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Speaker 3: who was also Edward's mother. They're friends from school, and

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Speaker 3: she wasn't sure about it, so she checked with me first.

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Speaker 3: I never told my parents about how he treated me again,

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Speaker 3: it was so brief and I just wanted him out.

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Speaker 3: I did tell my siblings later, and it caused my

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Speaker 3: brother to stop being his friend for a while. But

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Speaker 3: I've since told him I don't care if he's friends

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Speaker 1: And yes, I'm sure I'm over Edward.

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Speaker 3: I got over him, and it took a while and

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Speaker 3: it hurt, but he's just a part of my past.

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Speaker 3: I have seen him on occasion, but we don't say

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Speaker 3: more than two senses to each.

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Speaker 1: Other at once. Ah.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, I did ski ages and used fake names to

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Speaker 3: be a little more anonymous, which I thought was the

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Speaker 1: But it's my first post.

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Speaker 5: I don't know how this all works, and that DESI,

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Speaker 5: you're supposed to shut up. It's okop.

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Speaker 3: Yes, my brother and Edward are friends as far as

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Speaker 3: I know. I haven't asked about it after the party.

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Speaker 3: I genuinely don't know. I don't live there anymore, and

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Speaker 3: Hugh is fine. He's upset for their behavior and that

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Speaker 3: it put a damper on our evening more than anything else. Lastly,

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Speaker 3: my siblings don't live at the house. The house was

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Speaker 3: which my brother rents from my parents. Update wooooo, dive

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Speaker 3: right in it falls off. Two weeks ago, Emma finally replied,

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Speaker 3: I'm well kind of. It was just one message. I'm

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Speaker 3: going no contact. I need to protect my mental health.

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Speaker 3: Shut up, no context, No, I love you, No, I

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Speaker 3: didn't do it, just.

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Speaker 5: You need to paratize me mental health.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to no contact with you.

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Speaker 3: And then she blocked me everywhere. Then absolute silence. I

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Speaker 3: texted Quincy and he didn't get the text just got blocked. Mom,

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Speaker 3: she isn't blocked, but said she would try to find

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Speaker 3: out what's happening.

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Speaker 1: I was already raw, but this broke something in me.

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Speaker 3: When I was logging on my next new phone, I

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Speaker 3: logged onto Instagram and found a message request from Emma's

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Speaker 3: best friend Danica, who I know sort of but not

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Speaker 3: very well.

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Speaker 1: I wish I hadn't read it.

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Speaker 3: Danica wrote me an absolute wall of text, tearing me apart,

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Speaker 3: calling me a toxic, manipulative witch of a sister, saying

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Speaker 3: I'm running a smear campaign to protect my uh my,

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Speaker 3: uh my, scandalous golden sibling Quincy, that Emma deserves a

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Speaker 3: better family, and no wonder She's going no contact and

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Speaker 3: we can all go f ourselves. Danic has said, if

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Speaker 3: I really cared about Emma's mental health, I'd shut up

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Speaker 3: and take accountability. Wow, this is where you send eight ballpool,

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Speaker 3: He said he caught feelings, real ones, but Edward made

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Speaker 3: He told my fiance, he told my parents, but he

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Speaker 3: My My confusion comes from, where is any communication?

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Speaker 3: It's like again, just such a I want to slam

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Speaker 3: Like how I feel right now is like the moment

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Speaker 3: Honestly, I don't care if Emma can't speak up for

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Speaker 5: Ah free labor.

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Speaker 3: Keep getting stuck watching my little cousins ages baby to

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Speaker 3: So yesterday I finally snapped. I told him, nah, I

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 3: Is it really my job to play built in daycare

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Speaker 3: A very normal thing for someone to look at after

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, you know, definitely shouldn't have said it

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Speaker 3: We don't have an age, but clearly young. It's just

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Speaker 3: Comment one says, to be honest, I genuinely appreciate that

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Speaker 3: I'm exhausted. I mean, yeah, I could babysit sometime, but

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Speaker 3: Yeah the way, if it's every day, you need to

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Speaker 3: I just want to get home, eat something, and maybe

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Speaker 3: No, you need to put a stop to that now.

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Speaker 3: You should not be the designated babysitter because the moms

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Speaker 3: The worst thing is that if I say something, they

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Speaker 1: They just don't want to deal. But their kids are

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Speaker 3: Thank god someone noticed mom is from the Dominican Republic

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Speaker 3: People always say I have a strange vocabulary, and indeed

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Speaker 1: They're not my responsibility. Besides I'm fifteen.

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Speaker 3: You got you got one free day a week. Yep,

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Speaker 3: Let's do it next day. A little family background here. Actually,

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Speaker 1: I only refuse to stop helping one of them. My

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Speaker 1: aunt Florita a made up name.

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Speaker 3: Florita is a thirty three years old and has a

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Speaker 3: five year old baby. She's actually very kind to me

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Speaker 3: and understands my situation. She's single because the father of

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Speaker 3: her child never wanted to take responsibility once she told

446
00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:43,840
Speaker 3: him she was pregnant, so she works in two restaurants,

447
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Speaker 3: lives with my grandparents, and takes care of her son alone.

448
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Speaker 3: Plus her kiddo is very calm and intelligent. I don't

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Speaker 3: have a problem with him. The problem is my other aunts,

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Speaker 3: who are more stable. My Aunt Petunia's husband works in

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Speaker 3: a government office, and my Aunt Margarita's husband is a.

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Speaker 1: Lawyer and a pretty good one.

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Speaker 3: They also work in an office and can afford to

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Speaker 3: pay a nanny or pay me. I don't remember if

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Speaker 3: I mentioned this before, but they're from the Dominican Republic.

456
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Speaker 3: They came to the United States when Mom was my age.

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Speaker 3: Mom is Aunt Florita's twin. I know their lives have

458
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Speaker 3: been difficult and that families need to support each other.

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Speaker 1: But I have a life too.

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Speaker 3: I don't go out much, but I help dad with

461
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Speaker 3: his store, and I also help out around the house.

462
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Speaker 3: I study, and for those who ask, I do have

463
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Speaker 3: a girlfriend, but we're both focused on our studies. Later

464
00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,640
Speaker 3: we'll formalize our careers, but not before we graduate. I'll

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Speaker 3: be updating everything via pass. Mom has already spoken with

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Speaker 3: her sisters. My grandfather supports her, and since he is

467
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Speaker 3: the absolute voice of the family, actually all the older

468
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Speaker 3: adults are, he will speak with his daughters and we

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Speaker 3: have some more comments here. Yeah, I think it can't

470
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Speaker 3: be up to ope at this point. Yeah, fifteen, when

471
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Speaker 3: you're fifteen. Yeah, it's like you you need to to

472
00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 3: have the other adults in the situation tell the other adults, Hey,

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Speaker 3: stop right, stop exploiting my son for free labor.

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Speaker 4: Right, I mean, because he tried, he tried to like

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Speaker 4: put his foot down, and then he got a lot

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Speaker 4: of backlash from the family. So yeah, I agree, it's

477
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Speaker 4: just gotta you gotta have some help with the authorities

478
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Speaker 4: in this situation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we need the authorities on site.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, immediately, let's get into some comments. Spit comingyone says,

481
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Speaker 3: not the ahole crazy how you're well off ants expect

482
00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:37,880
Speaker 3: free childcare, while Aunt Florita, who's actually struggling, respects your time.

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Speaker 3: You're fifteen with your own life, not their on call

484
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Speaker 3: babysitter period. Coming or two says too many use family

485
00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 3: as an excuse to manipulate, impose silence and control. Nobody

486
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,719
Speaker 3: must be the guardian or servant of others to the

487
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Speaker 3: detriment of themselves. And there's another update, oh boy, to

488
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Speaker 3: be fair to the detriment of themselves.

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Speaker 1: I think we're going a little far.

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Speaker 3: I think if we're being honest, learning how to you know,

491
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Speaker 3: because he's like I like the one that's smart enough

492
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Speaker 3: to like not misbehave. Maybe flexing and strengthening your your

493
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Speaker 3: annoyance tolerance muscles could be good at fifteen. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Every day is extra though, and every

495
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Speaker 3: day is too much.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's definitely like limits because then you still need

497
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Speaker 4: to be like a teenager and have your own social life.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean, like doing it.

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Speaker 4: At all is like okay, it's kind of just a

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Speaker 4: family thing, and like this kind of just it's like

501
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 4: doing yard work in a way you know, Yeah, gotta

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Speaker 4: do it, and you'll understand.

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Speaker 3: When you're older, I think you'll you should expect to

504
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Speaker 3: still do some.

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Speaker 1: But if you're really doing it every day, that's too much. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's a second up.

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Speaker 3: Hello again, it's been ten days since I posted this,

508
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Speaker 3: and well, what had to happen happened. Welcome to the

509
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 3: amazing family drama circus. First, thank you to everyone who commented.

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00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 3: It helped me a lot to read about similar experiences

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Speaker 3: and realize I wasn't being selfish. Sometimes you feel bad

512
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Speaker 3: about saying no, especially with family, but I learned that

513
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,479
Speaker 3: setting boundaries isn't being a bad person. These events happened

514
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,160
Speaker 3: in three or four days. More things happen, but I'll

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00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 3: only cover the most relevant. Day one, my mom spoke

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Speaker 3: with my aunts. She was firm but calm, and told

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Speaker 3: them I wouldn't babysit anymore without them respectfully asking me,

518
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Speaker 3: and that it wasn't my responsibility just because I was

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Speaker 3: young and quote good with kids, which I doubt because

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00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,640
Speaker 3: Opie says that he hates like two of the children.

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Speaker 6: Maybe he hates somebody's nice though, but grudgingly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Aunt Florita understood, but Maggie was more stubborn, left

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Speaker 3: without saying anything and didn't speak to Mom for the

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Speaker 3: rest of the day.

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Speaker 1: My Aunt Florida was sunshine.

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Speaker 3: She wrote me separately to tell me that she understood

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Speaker 3: completely and she never wanted me to feel used, that

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Speaker 3: she really appreciates it when I help her, and that

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Speaker 3: if someday I can't anymore, say so without fear. She

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Speaker 3: has never been the problem. My brother John also wrote

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Speaker 3: me and said, Aunt Margarita is crazy.

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Speaker 1: You did good.

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Speaker 3: I didn't expect it because at first he had told

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Speaker 3: me he could be smoother, But I guess he saw

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Speaker 3: it more clearly now, or maybe it was because his

536
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Speaker 3: girlfriend scolded him.

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Speaker 1: But what about me? I'm calm. I went to the

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Speaker 1: last meeting.

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Speaker 3: No one gave me kids to babysit, and I was

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Speaker 3: even offered to sit with the adults.

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Speaker 1: I ate in peace.

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Speaker 3: I played with my little cousins for a while because

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Speaker 3: I wanted to, not because they forced me too, and

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Speaker 3: it felt a good.

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Speaker 1: Some more comments to finish it off. What an uplifting update.

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Speaker 3: It's great to be helpful to others, it is not

547
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Speaker 3: great when others take advantage of your good nature. Glad

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Speaker 3: you'll have more time for yourself and studying, and have

549
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Speaker 3: learned something about setting boundaries. Grandfather and aunt Florita sound great.

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Speaker 3: Comment number two here's my favorite part quote they want

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Speaker 3: everything easy and without commitment. I'm glad that commenter brought

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Speaker 3: that up because I wanted to say, Yeah, that's exactly

553
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 3: what the ants want. Yeah, yeah, full blown projection.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 3: Kids these days just want everything given to them. It's

556
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Speaker 3: like you literally just leave, you drop the kids off,

557
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Speaker 3: and you leave like.

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Speaker 1: The adults these days. This is when no responsibility. Adults

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Speaker 1: these days have no idea how to communicate properly.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, what you gonna do?

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Speaker 3: So isn't that exactly what old anthe's doing. She wants

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Speaker 3: you to make her life easier by babysitting her commitments,

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Speaker 3: i e.

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Speaker 1: The kids she chose to have.

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Speaker 3: That crap is about as good as calling someone selfish

566
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Speaker 3: when they won't babysit or give money as expected. Good

567
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Speaker 3: on you, kid, and I'd honestly advise that you not

568
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Speaker 3: babysit again for at least a couple of.

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Speaker 1: Years, and that is the end of that story.

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, sometimes you just gotta call Grandpa, just call

571
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Speaker 4: him the gramps.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes when you're fifteen. You didn't even have to call grandpa.

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Speaker 3: Grandpa saw the group chat and.

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Speaker 4: Said, right, he's like, ah, too many messages.

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Speaker 5: I got to quiet this town a bit.

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Speaker 1: Do we need to learn how to ask for things again?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 4: Aah. Even when my kids have kids, still gotta be

579
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Speaker 4: a parent to them.

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Speaker 1: Ah. Hey, it's Sam. We're going to get back to

581
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 1: these stories. But here's three minutes of ads from our sponsors.

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Speaker 3: My mother in law's children all cut her off, and

583
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 3: now I understand why.

584
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Speaker 5: Uh oh, the truth is revealed.

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Speaker 3: My fiancee, Nick, twenty five male, and I twenty five female,

586
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 3: have been together for almost five years and are getting

587
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Speaker 3: married next year. For context, Nick has three other siblings,

588
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 3: Hailey twenty three female, Ella twenty female, and Christian twenty

589
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 3: six male. Before I met Nick, my future mother in

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00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 3: law had cheated on their dad slash stepdad, Aaron. At

591
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Speaker 3: the time, Ella was still in school, and she ended

592
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Speaker 3: up staying with Aaron. From what I heard, their relationship

593
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,120
Speaker 3: wasn't great, but we all agree that gives no right

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00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 3: for her to cheat. My future mother in law had

595
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 3: ended up moving in with the guy she cheated with,

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Speaker 3: Evan And by the way, this comes from a user

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Speaker 3: lazy Cucumber fifty one ninety eight on the r slash

598
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Speaker 3: Charlotte Dobray YouTube subreddit, and if.

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Speaker 1: You want to submit your own story, go to the

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Speaker 1: r slash Okay storytime subredd it.

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Speaker 3: So when I met Nick and we started the meet

602
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 3: the parents stage, he wasn't too keen on going to

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00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 3: see them because of Evan. I apologized because I know

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00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 3: this question will come up. I have no idea while

605
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 3: she was cheating if he knew it was cheating. We

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00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,959
Speaker 3: had dinner at their home and Nick actually warmed up

607
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 3: to Evan. I reminded Nick that even though what your

608
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 3: mother did wasn't okay, that doesn't mean you have to

609
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 3: put that hurt and anger onto Evan. Sometime later we

610
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 3: had the financial talk and I found out that he

611
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 3: helps my future mother in law out a lot. I

612
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,919
Speaker 3: grew up with parents that had the mindset that we

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Speaker 3: are there children, regardless if we are adults.

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Speaker 1: Although my parents.

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Speaker 3: Have asked for my help in the past, it was

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Speaker 3: typically for bills that were hitting before their paychecks, so

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Speaker 3: I would always get the money back within a few days.

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Speaker 1: This was not that situation.

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Speaker 3: My future mother in law was asking for money because

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Speaker 3: she was on disability and couldn't work. My fiance tried

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Speaker 3: many methods of getting her to go to school or

622
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Speaker 3: find a work from home job.

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Speaker 1: But she refused.

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Speaker 3: I noticed pretty quickly that the she was asking for

625
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 3: wasn't going to what she said it was going to either.

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Speaker 3: Although it was pointed out he would still help her,

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Speaker 3: I had no problem with him doing this, but reminded

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Speaker 3: him that this was not normal and I would not

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Speaker 3: be helping in any capacity because I know when I

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00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 3: see it. One time, about a year and a half

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Speaker 3: into our relationship, Nick was in the middle of training

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Speaker 3: for a new job when he realized he needed to

633
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Speaker 3: fix his personal finance situation. He called my future and

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Speaker 3: mother in law to ask about a loan there bank

635
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 3: offers to get a better understanding of what it was like.

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00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 3: During that call, she had showed him something on Facebook

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Speaker 3: marketplace for the three dogs she had. An hour after

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00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 3: that phone call, she called asking for money for some

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Speaker 3: doctor's appointment.

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00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: However, it was the.

641
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 3: Same amount of money for the thing on Facebook marketplace.

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00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 3: He obviously told her no and that he didn't have money,

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00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 3: which is why he was asking about the loan. I

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00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 3: will say his financial situation has gotten so much better

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00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 3: and he's in a much better place. Evan got sometime

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00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty one and went through long and hard treatments.

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00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 3: He almost lost his job because of it, but in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty two he was free. My future mother in

649
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 3: law and Evan got married in twenty twenty two and

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Speaker 3: bought a house much further away from Aaron's home. It's

651
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 3: mainly Evan's house, as future mother in law has extremely

652
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 3: bad credit. Future mother in law, in her an Aaron's relationship,

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00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 3: had taken credit cards out in his name and maxed

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Speaker 3: them out. She also was so entranced by Hailey buying

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Speaker 3: a nice car that she had to buy one of

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Speaker 3: her own, even though.

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Speaker 1: She could barely pay for it.

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Speaker 3: Future mother in law had to continue trading in her

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Speaker 3: vehicles until she got one she could actually afford. During

660
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 3: that process, she asked Nick and Haley if they could

661
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 3: co sign with her, which they.

662
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: Both refused to do.

663
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 3: But Future mother in law did get a job and

664
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 3: knew that disability checks were not covering bills anymore. Future

665
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 3: mother in law does have some health issues, but can

666
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 3: do a majority of things without issue. The majority is

667
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,959
Speaker 3: from a botched surgery she had years ago and mental

668
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 3: health issues. In twenty twenty three, we got engaged, I

669
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,959
Speaker 3: started training for a new job and it moved in

670
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 3: with Nick in early twenty twenty four. Future mother in

671
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 3: law didn't like the job she was at and at

672
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 3: some points was showing self harm thoughts and potential issues. Thankfully,

673
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 3: that got a little better. However, one of her issues

674
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 3: during that time was that Hayley and Ella weren't talking

675
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 3: to her and being nice now throughout our entire relationship.

676
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 3: Future mother in law is the type of mother that

677
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 3: calls her children every day and complains to the majority

678
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 3: of the phone call about her own problems. Future mother

679
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 3: in law will call hundred times a day. If you

680
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 3: don't answer, and I'm not exaggerating, are we blocking our

681
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 3: mom for calling us one hundred times?

682
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 5: You might have to. You might have to if it's

683
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 5: not gonna work. I don't know. They block her for

684
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 5: the day and then ll.

685
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 3: Later definitely not just as like a I just want

686
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 3: to let you know that that's not the way that

687
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 3: you get someone to answer the phone right.

688
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 4: Right, because maybe she won't understand like, oh if my

689
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 4: call just like fully isn't going through that that means

690
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 4: that she's blocked, like maybe she doesn't know that, and

691
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 4: she's just.

692
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 5: Like, Oh, I just can't call right now. It's not work.

693
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 3: Nick had to talk to Haley and Ella about their

694
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 3: attitude with future mother in law and that they needed

695
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 3: to call more. Future mother in law job searched and

696
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 3: suddenly wanted to go into a similar field as me.

697
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 3: My job is not an easy job, to the point

698
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 3: that you have to be physically and mentally fit to

699
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 3: be able to do it, or you could hurt yourself.

700
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 3: There is a high percentage of self harm in my profession.

701
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 3: I told her it was a bad idea and she

702
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 3: was not fit for this job. The day before training started,

703
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 3: she thankfully dropped out. Future mother in law ended up

704
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 3: finding a somewhat more suitable job at the County Animal Shelter.

705
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 5: What job is this?

706
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 4: My goodness, this has to be some sort of like

707
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 4: not just like high stress, but something I don't know.

708
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,239
Speaker 3: When I was briefly in between lives and I was like,

709
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 3: what am I doing? I did briefly consider going into

710
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 3: the military and becoming.

711
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:48,719
Speaker 1: A drone pilot.

712
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, And then I looked more into the information

713
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 3: about the PTSD rates and also like the yeah, and

714
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 3: I was like, nah, that maybe actually I don't need

715
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 3: that in my life at all. Created more problems as

716
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 3: she took in more pets that she couldn't afford and

717
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 3: was getting hurt on the job all the time. At

718
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 3: one point she had six dogs and three cats. She

719
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 3: had built a cadio, which was a large chicken coop

720
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 3: outside not connected to the house where the three cats stayed.

721
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:17,959
Speaker 3: We live in a southern state. She had the cats

722
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 3: locked up in the outdoor cadio. That's not how that works.

723
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 3: That's a come and go open door policy.

724
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's supposed to be like connected to your door.

725
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, somehow it's supposed to go from the inside to

726
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 3: the outside so that they can just go outside without

727
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 3: going outside and all the way to live.

728
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 6: Oh my god, even if cats cats.

729
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: Being like I got a dog, but it just lives

730
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: in the bathroom.

731
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, exactly what.

732
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 3: As a cat owner myself, I almost yelled at her

733
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 3: for animal cruelty for those cats. Even Haley, who owned

734
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 3: one of the cats, was really upset. And when she

735
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 3: told future mother in law how she felt about it,

736
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 3: future mother in law didn't care. After future and mother

737
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 3: in law wanted a similar job to me. I started

738
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 3: looking at other things and noticed a pattern. Future and

739
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,479
Speaker 3: mother in law was trying to be like me in

740
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 3: some weird way. I noticed she had changed her hair

741
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 3: color to be similar to mine, mainly black and red.

742
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 3: Future mother in law got a lot more tattoos with

743
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,239
Speaker 3: what money. I have no idea, And when I met

744
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 3: her she had like three. I have fifteen tattoos now

745
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 3: and she has way more. And she's gotten a bunch

746
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 3: of facial piercings. I have one eyebrowt piercing. This will

747
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 3: come into play later. In mid twenty twenty four, Evan

748
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 3: found out that the had spread and it was much

749
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 3: worse than the last time. Evan was done fighting and

750
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 3: decided he didn't want to go through any more treatments

751
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 3: and just live out his life until he was gone.

752
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 3: Everyone else in the family respected that and understood his

753
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 3: reasoning behind it. Future mother in law did not, and

754
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 3: she started to get progressively worse mentally. Nick and I

755
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 3: had bought a house and kind of combined our finances.

756
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 3: We have our account we share for bills, and then

757
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 3: we have our own personal accounts for whatever we want

758
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 3: to do. Nick still continued to help future mother in

759
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 3: law for gas money, doctor's appointments, et cetera. Well, during

760
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 3: one of Evan and future mother in law's arguments, Evan

761
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 3: texted Nick and told him that the money he's been

762
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 3: giving to future mother in law was going to other

763
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,479
Speaker 3: things and gave examples. Future mother in law texted Nick

764
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,280
Speaker 3: and said she was leaving Evan because she couldn't handle

765
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 3: how he treated her and that he didn't want to

766
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 3: go through the treatments. Evan, by this point had left

767
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 3: his job because he could no longer physically do it

768
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 3: and his on disability checks. Nick for the first time

769
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 3: told future mother in law off, explaining that she hasn't

770
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 3: proven to be better by any means and was still

771
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 3: basically a financial and emotional succubus that only thought of

772
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 3: herself and not what anyone else was going through.

773
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 1: Future mother in law.

774
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 3: Got upset it would not take any accountability whatsoever. Nick

775
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 3: took time to cool off and slowly led her back

776
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 3: into his life.

777
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 1: She tried to text me a few.

778
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 3: Times, but I was very short and to the point

779
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 3: with her, as I was not getting involved and I

780
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 3: did not need her doing that to me. This was

781
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,959
Speaker 3: all because future mother in law was planning to buy

782
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 3: a shed, but needed Nick's help to do so so

783
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 3: that when Evan passed away, she could live in it

784
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 3: in the backyard and rent out the house lol.

785
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 1: Nick obviously said.

786
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 3: He was not co signing on anything with her, which

787
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 3: started the argument. Around this time too, future and mother

788
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 3: in law had asked who Nick's priority was, me or her,

789
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 3: and he obviously chose me and told her that she

790
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,879
Speaker 3: can't get mad forever asking that question.

791
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, duh, that's stupid. Is it your future wife for me?

792
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 5: Your mother?

793
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 4: It's like, why are you even bringing that. That's a

794
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 4: stupid question to ask. It's stupid.

795
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 5: Would you love me if I was a worm?

796
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 1: No?

797
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 6: No, because I'm not worms, you'd be a worm.

798
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: I wouldn't know you'd be anything about you.

799
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, cures to me, it's to me. Yeah, that's that's.

800
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: Where we're at. Yeah, Okay, duh.

801
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 3: I'm his fiance, the woman he's going to marry, who

802
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,919
Speaker 3: he lives with, et cetera, et cetera. Spring twenty twenty five,

803
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 3: Hailey goes no contact with future mother in law. Hailey

804
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 3: was already annoyed by how her mother was acting and

805
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 3: constantly asking for money.

806
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: She would refuse to listen to.

807
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 3: What job schedule she had and called randomly when she

808
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,760
Speaker 3: isn't allowed to have her phone. Haley was overall tired

809
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 3: of her complaining, and I fully understood and advised that

810
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 3: I was proud of her for making that decision. Nick

811
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 3: had a hard time with it, but understood his sister's decision.

812
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: I had to explain to him that this includes.

813
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 3: Talking about Haley to future mother in law, as that

814
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 3: will create more issues and make future mother in law

815
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 3: want to reach out to Haley when she is no contact.

816
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 1: Nick didn't like it, but understood.

817
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 3: Late spring twenty twenty four five, future mother in law

818
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 3: decided to go rogue. Nick called me while I was

819
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 3: working night shift to tell me that Evan had removed

820
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 3: future mother in law from the home and he had

821
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 3: no idea where she was or what she was doing.

822
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 3: Nick at this point was so tired of her bs

823
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 3: but still felt obligated to help her. Nick explained that

824
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 3: because of his Mexican heritage, where a family always helps family,

825
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 3: even though his mother was unhelpable, he still felt the

826
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 3: need to help her. We ended up having a conversation

827
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 3: with my parents because he needed outside perspective on the matter.

828
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 3: We were afraid that she was coming to stay with

829
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 3: us and would randomly show up at the house. My

830
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 3: parents were able to help us formulate a plan in

831
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 3: case she showed up at our door asking for help.

832
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 3: It mainly was made up of specific boundaries and rules

833
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 3: that she had to follow. Future mother in law thankfully

834
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 3: called him the next day and was nowhere near us,

835
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 3: but at a coworker's house or something. Haley had spoken

836
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 3: with Evan, who advised he did not do what she said.

837
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,919
Speaker 3: He did like the remover from the house. She left

838
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 3: on her own accord after an argument and took the

839
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 3: three dogs she had left with her. Evan was not

840
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,760
Speaker 3: barring her from the house or whatever she was owed

841
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 3: in a divorce if she wanted it. Evan was honestly

842
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 3: just over it. Future mother in law was told to

843
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 3: get rid of all of her pets. Thankfully, most were adoptable,

844
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 3: except one of the dogs that was so poorly trained

845
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 3: it could not be with anyone without being aggressive, so

846
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 3: he had to be put down. While staying with that coworker,

847
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 3: she borrowed money from them to buy an air mattress

848
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:54,879
Speaker 3: for a guest in the room.

849
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 1: She was staying in.

850
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 4: What for her guests in a room that she doesn't

851
00:37:59,400 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 4: even own.

852
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go to sleep.

853
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, you must.

854
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 3: You gotta be dreaming thinking that you're inviting guests over.

855
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 6: That's why, and then having them pay for the air mattress.

856
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 5: That's crazy.

857
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 3: This is just for co How did how did we

858
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 3: get here? How are we still letting this?

859
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 4: How?

860
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 3: A few days ago, Ella received a call from future

861
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 3: mother in law and at first it was normal. Then

862
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 3: a man came on the phone and explained that he

863
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 3: was the guy that future mother in law had first

864
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 3: cheated on Aaron with and he could now have her.

865
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 3: He explained future mother in law was safe, healthy, and

866
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 3: happy with him and a bunch of other weird stuff.

867
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 3: Ella was super freaked out and called me upset because

868
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 3: of it. Evan then sent a text to Hailey where

869
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 3: he had seen future mother in law out with this man.

870
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 1: Future mother in law found out that.

871
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 3: Evan knew of her new quote unquote relationship and is

872
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 3: now apparently tormenting him by texting him constantly. Mother in

873
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 3: law cheated on Aaron with more than just this one

874
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 3: guy she'd been with MMM, So she cheated with this

875
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 3: new guy first yeah, and then Evan didn't even know. Apparently,

876
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 3: future mother in law tried friending me on Facebook with

877
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 3: this new profile where her hair is now blonde. I

878
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 3: recently started going blonde a few months ago, not fully

879
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 3: blonde because where my previous haired eye is, but slowly

880
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 3: I'm becoming blonde.

881
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 1: Future mother in law randomly.

882
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 3: Bought a crotch rocket bike that I don't think she

883
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 3: can drive and just living with this man. Nick and

884
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 3: Haley went to visit Ella, Aaron, and Christian over the

885
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 3: next couple weeks. Haley told me that she was going

886
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 3: to visit Evan because she felt bad and wanted to

887
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 3: make sure he understood that he was still part of

888
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:40,959
Speaker 3: the family, especially with.

889
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: All of his health problems.

890
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 3: I told her to let him know that I was

891
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 3: with her and that if he needed anything, to not

892
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 3: hesitate to reach out. Well, turns out that future mother

893
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 3: in law had taken out two credit cards in his

894
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 3: name and maxed them out too, basically the same thing

895
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 3: she did to Aaron now. Nick, on the other hand,

896
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 3: didn't like that Haley and Ella were taking Evan to dinner. However,

897
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,280
Speaker 3: Nick went to see future mother in law. He basically

898
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 3: sounded like we shouldn't be taking sides, And I asked

899
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 3: him why he was going to see future mother in law.

900
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 3: Then his response was, I don't want to be a

901
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 3: part of her self harm.

902
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 5: Note yikes, man, yikes, Like.

903
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 1: Does your mom need impatient? My guy?

904
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 3: Like, I think we're being awfully like dismissive over something

905
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 3: that is like a really really big concern. Yeah, if

906
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 3: you are worried that your mom is in his place

907
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 3: where she could do that, Like, she needs to get

908
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:29,760
Speaker 3: it addressed, right.

909
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 5: We need to help her.

910
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:33,760
Speaker 4: And if this is not a person that these people

911
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 4: like want to be around to help her get her

912
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 4: professional help, it definitely should be something that we are

913
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 4: talking about in a more serious way.

914
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 3: I think I would be so so, so deeply disturbed

915
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 3: by the mimicking of my fiance if I'm the son.

916
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, hey, it's.

917
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 5: So weird, man, that's so weird.

918
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. So at this point, I'm at a loss for words.

919
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 3: On one hand, I do see where Nick is coming from,

920
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 3: and I'm grateful I'm not stuck like other fiancees and

921
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 3: wives where he defends her because he honestly hasn't.

922
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:06,879
Speaker 1: He just deals with it.

923
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 3: However, at the same time, I really wish he would

924
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 3: just let that part of him go and go no contact.

925
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 3: She's probably the worst thing for his mental health and

926
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 3: is always dragging him down. I believe he isn't giving

927
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 3: her money anymore. But still, as I was writing this,

928
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 3: I was on the phone with him and he had

929
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 3: to end the call because future mother in law would

930
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,919
Speaker 3: not stop calling him. Nick did say one thing about

931
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 3: Evan that put me off, and that is that he

932
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 3: isn't family Haley, Ella and I disagree, and that he

933
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 3: put up with future mother in law just as we have.

934
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 3: And honestly, i'd say he's family, like you know again

935
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 3: already today I'm like normalize cutting off people who are

936
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 3: not good for you, Like, yeah, you don't lie.

937
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:48,919
Speaker 4: I know, because it's hard because like in the last story,

938
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 4: it was so much easier because it was just a

939
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 4: friend and this is a mom.

940
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 6: But it still is like, oh my gosh, Like he

941
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 6: just puts up with her.

942
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 5: He doesn't even try to make excuses.

943
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 4: He knows that she's acting all cuckoo, but he also

944
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 4: knows he can't do anything about it, So it's like,

945
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 4: what do you do with that?

946
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 5: I think, like we were saying earlier.

947
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 4: Try to get her some kind of help because this

948
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 4: is not good, not good forever.

949
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, unsustainable. Let's finish this story now for the wedding.

950
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 3: Since Haley is no contact, she's okay with coming to

951
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 3: the wedding knowing future mother in law is invited. I

952
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 3: revoked future mother in law's plus one, which would have

953
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,479
Speaker 3: been Evan, but I already know she's going to try

954
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 3: to bring this new guy Haley, and Ella fully believes

955
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,359
Speaker 3: she's going to ruin our wedding somehow because no one

956
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 3: wants to babysit her. Nick the other night said Hailey

957
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 3: had to do it, and she goes no that if

958
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 3: I'm not, she needs to stay away from me. That's

959
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 3: crazy that Nick said, Haley, who is no contact with

960
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 3: their mother, needs.

961
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 1: To be the one to look out for her during

962
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: the wedding.

963
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 5: Couldn't have picked a worst person.

964
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 3: I reamed him out for that one, because we've had

965
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 3: the no contact discussion, and he apologized, I'm going to

966
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 3: defend my fiance because he has way bigger issues going

967
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 3: on in his life than dealing with his mother. Him

968
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 3: thinking that far ahead and what could happen isn't in

969
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 3: his mind right now and he's honestly the type of

970
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 3: person to push stuff like this in the back of

971
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:08,879
Speaker 3: his head to try to forget it. I don't feel

972
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:10,879
Speaker 3: like my future mother in law will ever take over

973
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 3: our relationship because he has already expressed losing me over

974
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 3: future mother in law drama and stuff, especially when we

975
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 3: thought she was on her way here that one time.

976
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 3: I just wanted to share and can hopefully update in

977
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 3: a year when my wedding happens, because I'm sure there

978
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 3: will be more drama.

979
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 1: Coming our way. Let's see what this comment or has

980
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: to say. Let's see it, because I'm honestly at a loss.

981
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, comment one, since you pointed out how much future

982
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 3: mother in law imitates you, I expect her to show

983
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 3: up in a white dress. Also, is Nick her favorite child?

984
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 1: It seems that way to me.

985
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm reading too much into it,

986
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 3: but it sounds like she asks him for help the most.

987
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:48,760
Speaker 1: It sounds like she's looking for men.

988
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,479
Speaker 3: Who will take care of her Aaron Evan the new guy,

989
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 3: and when they stop suiting her, she temporarily replaces their

990
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 3: support or financing with Nick. I'm sorry, Op, I don't

991
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 3: think this situation will improve on its own. Your future

992
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 3: mother in law will always be irresponsible with money and

993
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 3: will always expect everyone to help her since it's worked

994
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 3: for her in the past. I don't think you can

995
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 3: change the situation. It sounds like the only person who

996
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 3: can do anything about it is Nick. People who are

997
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 3: desperate have no problems saving money or taking a job

998
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 3: they don't like. It seems like your future mother in

999
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 3: law has never been in a desperate situation because she

1000
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 3: knows that even if everything goes wrong, Nick will help her.

1001
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 1: And that is the end of that story.

1002
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 4: I prohibited my sister in law from coming over because

1003
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 4: she always causes trouble.

1004
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 1: Here comes troubled.

1005
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 5: So some background.

1006
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 4: My girlfriend I'm proposing next month and I currently have

1007
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 4: an apartment in a very nice neighborhood. We're fortunate enough

1008
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 4: to also have access to the clubhousepool, which we frequently

1009
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 4: go to cool off after we've been working all day.

1010
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 4: By the way, this comes from Traditional Girls sixty one

1011
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,800
Speaker 4: oh oh, and if you want to submit your own stories,

1012
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 4: go to the hour slash ka story toime separate it.

1013
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 4: So a bit on my girlfriend's sister. She is a

1014
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 4: little wild and is known for excessive public drinking and

1015
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 4: causing scenes wherever she goes.

1016
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 5: Anyway to the story now.

1017
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 4: Last Monday, my girlfriend got home from work and said

1018
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 4: that her sister wanted to go to the pool while

1019
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 4: she was at work. Her sister doesn't really work, only

1020
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 4: one to two days a week and still lives at home.

1021
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 5: Their conversation looked.

1022
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 4: Like this, girlfriend, how are you going to get into

1023
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 4: the pool without a car to get there and without.

1024
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 5: Your key card?

1025
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 4: Girlfriend's sister, Oh, just uber and I can look around

1026
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 4: our parents' house for that spare key.

1027
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:23,320
Speaker 5: You gave them. Girlfriend.

1028
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 4: I think they lost it, but you can try now.

1029
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,760
Speaker 4: It was a short conversation, but a few things. Number one,

1030
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 4: her sister is a known klepto who steals and ponds

1031
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 4: stuff in order to go to bars. It's happened multiple

1032
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 4: times at her parents' house where she has stolen things

1033
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 4: to make money.

1034
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 5: And two, she does not have.

1035
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 4: A car because she has crashed five and cannot have

1036
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 4: a license for another few years. Wow, that's a lot

1037
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 4: of times crashing cars. And three, she has only been

1038
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 4: in our apartment when either my girlfriend is there or

1039
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 4: we both are for reason number one, and has invited

1040
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 4: random people over while we were there without us knowing.

1041
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 4: For the reasons above, I expressed to my girlfriend that

1042
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,760
Speaker 4: I don't think we should allow her into our apartment

1043
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 4: alone without one of us present, as well as we

1044
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 4: could get in trouble with the HOA or complex if

1045
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:11,800
Speaker 4: she were to get into it with anyone or anything

1046
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 4: which could cause issues for us down the road. Along

1047
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 4: with this, I also said we need to have a

1048
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 4: conversation with her parents to let them know to either

1049
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 4: find the key in and give it back to us

1050
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 4: or hide it in a spot her sister would never let.

1051
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 4: My girlfriend kind of shrugged it off and said that it's.

1052
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:26,720
Speaker 5: Not a big deal and she can go to the pool.

1053
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 4: It's not like anything would happen and wouldn't get in

1054
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 4: trouble if anything were to happen. I feel like if

1055
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 4: I keep pushing it may cause issues between me and

1056
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 4: my future sister in law, But selfishly I don't want

1057
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 4: her around our stuff, but can't help feeling like an

1058
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:39,760
Speaker 4: a hole.

1059
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 5: Am I in the wrong and there isn't edit?

1060
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 1: Well is the question?

1061
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 3: Am I wrong for not wanting the known thief to

1062
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 3: be hanging out around my stuff and have access to it?

1063
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:52,919
Speaker 1: Nope? Not wrong about that?

1064
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I don't think so at all.

1065
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 4: She has a literal record of all of this stuff,

1066
00:46:58,480 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 4: and the sister knows that.

1067
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 5: The sister is like.

1068
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, like, you're not gonna be getting this information from

1069
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 4: anyone else but the sister, So she's gotta know that

1070
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 4: all this stuff is true. So it's like, maybe talk

1071
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 4: to your sister and be like, well, Kim, how do

1072
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 4: you really feel about this? Because knowing the same information

1073
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 4: that you do, I can't help but to fear her

1074
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 4: being around my things unattended, you know, right, So maybe

1075
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 4: you can get some perspective, but definitely not the agle.

1076
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 5: There is an edit.

1077
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 4: I feel I gotta say this because I did paint

1078
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 4: her in a bad way unintentionally. My girlfriend is nothing

1079
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 4: like her sister, and that's why I love her. She

1080
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 4: is hard working, smart and genuinely a one of kind person.

1081
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,839
Speaker 4: As for her family, excluding her sister, they are all

1082
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 4: hard working, genuine people. So not sure exactly what happened

1083
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 4: in the three year age difference between the two. For

1084
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 4: the most part, we are on the same page about

1085
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,399
Speaker 4: her sister. They have had a rocky relationship with her

1086
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 4: and she wants to believe she's changing for the better,

1087
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 4: but I think it's getting harder and harder for my

1088
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 4: girlfriend to think that she cut all contact with her

1089
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 4: at the beginning of the year, which was a whole thing,

1090
00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 4: but now she's wanting to be the bigger person and

1091
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 4: try to fix what she can.

1092
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 5: The consensus from the comments is not the ale coming.

1093
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 4: Number one says, dude, this sounds like a nightmare, not

1094
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,240
Speaker 4: the a whole set boundaries. If the girlfriend can't support

1095
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 4: and respect them, as well as understand the financial liability

1096
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 4: her sister causes, do not propose.

1097
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 5: Explain where you are coming from.

1098
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 4: Explain this is a hard boundary and if she cannot

1099
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 4: respect it and you, then you need to think about

1100
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 4: the future.

1101
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:22,240
Speaker 5: Opie says.

1102
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 4: Let me preface, my girlfriend is usually on my side

1103
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 4: when it comes to her sister. They've had their own issues.

1104
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 4: It's just this one small thing that we don't see

1105
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 4: eye to eye on. We are still talking through it

1106
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 4: all and overall, I think.

1107
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 5: We both think the same regarding this.

1108
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,720
Speaker 4: It's just different to my girlfriend because that's her big sister,

1109
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 4: who's her family. Family is very important to her. As

1110
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 4: a side note comment her number two family or not

1111
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:47,359
Speaker 4: big sister who acts like a child or not liability

1112
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,720
Speaker 4: is liability. You and your girlfriend are, on the least,

1113
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 4: not the sister. If the sister does something, who is

1114
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 4: legally and financially responsible? Who will the management company hold responsible?

1115
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 4: Some rando or the people they have a contract with.

1116
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 4: Opie says, good point. I texted her and we're going

1117
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 4: to sit down and talk about it tonight. I will

1118
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 4: update you all on what happens. Hopefully I won't have

1119
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 4: to return the ring lol. Commentarre Renumber, this is three

1120
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 4: now they're behind on that. Are you sure you want

1121
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 4: to marry into this family? This is some serious baggage,

1122
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 4: Opie says. Her sister's literally the outlier. My girlfriend and

1123
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,879
Speaker 4: her parents are all hard working, normal people, So it's

1124
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:22,720
Speaker 4: strange when I think about it. But I have almost

1125
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 4: popped the question before but didn't because of family. But

1126
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 4: I actually get along with her parents and extended family

1127
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 4: very well. It's just her sister, which I'm not sure

1128
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 4: what to think of.

1129
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 3: How are you gonna let one sibling spoil your whole relationship?

1130
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 5: Like, yeah, that's hard.

1131
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't I think these people like because Opie

1132
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 4: is not the one thinking like I need out of

1133
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 4: this relationship. It's all these commenters that are like, you

1134
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 4: can't even marry this shit.

1135
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: Your girlfriend whose sister's a thief?

1136
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:54,720
Speaker 3: Yes, it's like, well, no, that's the sister's fault.

1137
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 4: OPI is literally just disagreeing over this one thing. And

1138
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 4: it's just like, how do I talk my girlfriend about this?

1139
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 5: And I feel like if.

1140
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 4: She's I mean, if she understands like these other stuff,

1141
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 4: I'm kind of surprised that she is okay with this,

1142
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 4: but maybe ask her about them.

1143
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 5: Let me ask why she's okay when she's not okay

1144
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 5: with all this other stuff.

1145
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 4: Conversation people, But there are still a few more comments.

1146
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 4: Comme Tore Number four says, as someone who worked in

1147
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:21,439
Speaker 4: property management for both apartments and in HOA, I hated

1148
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 4: when families would show up to use the facilities without

1149
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 4: the actual resident and then again but her went asked

1150
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 4: to leave. If a resident gave their keys to a

1151
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 4: non resident and were not present when using the facilities.

1152
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 6: It would mean that they would lose their privileges.

1153
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 5: They had one warning. Second was never again.

1154
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 4: My boss trespassed a teenage boy and his friends for

1155
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 4: coming without parents.

1156
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 5: Rules are rules?

1157
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Lam, you deserve to be booed for this commenter.

1158
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 4: She is your guest. You are taking responsibility for her.

1159
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 4: You are responsible for what she does. You could lose

1160
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 4: your privileges. And I bet if you read your lease

1161
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 4: and HOA rules, it will have something stated in there

1162
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 4: about the use of facilities which which may cause you

1163
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 4: to be evicted. Opie says, this is great insight into it.

1164
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: Thank you, what a respectful reply.

1165
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 3: Also, I think the founding fathers would start another revolutionary

1166
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 3: war if they came back to this time and learned

1167
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 3: about hoas. They would go to war against every HOA

1168
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 3: in the country.

1169
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 1: It's pretty immediately. And then also other stuff.

1170
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,280
Speaker 4: Commentary number five. This might be the last one, Opie.

1171
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,439
Speaker 4: You can ask your management to reissue you new key

1172
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 4: cards due to losing one, ask them to deactivate the

1173
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 4: old ones. I had to do this with an old

1174
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 4: keyfob I lost.

1175
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 5: For my community's pool.

1176
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 4: Also, bigger person doesn't mean giving in. She was already

1177
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 4: no contact. Being the bigger person is giving her another chance,

1178
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 4: with the exceptions that boundaries are established and respected. That

1179
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 4: second part is important for rebuilding trusts.

1180
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 5: Opie says.

1181
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 4: The issue with the first part is that a new

1182
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 4: key card is something crazy like two hundred and fifty dollars, which.

1183
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 5: Won't unlive me, but just seems outrageous.

1184
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 4: My girlfriend is about to get home from work, so

1185
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 4: we're about to talk, but I will make an update

1186
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 4: post tomorrow letting you all know how it goes. Kind

1187
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 4: of nervous but also excited in a weird way. I

1188
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 4: just think, depending on how this conversation goes, tells me

1189
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 4: what I'll be doing next month. And guess what we do.

1190
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 5: Have that update. So last night my girlfriend.

1191
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 4: Got home from work and we had a conversation about

1192
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 4: the whole ordeal.

1193
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 5: I started off with how many of you suggested it?

1194
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,320
Speaker 4: And I brought up a copy of our lease agreement

1195
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 4: as well as HOA and clubhouse rules. In both, it

1196
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:26,280
Speaker 4: clearly states that any guests who use the facilities provided

1197
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 4: must be accompanied by the owners of the lease.

1198
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 5: Failure to do this may.

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Speaker 4: Lead to immediate eviction or financial liability.

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00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:36,280
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's the hottest thing ever. Ope quoted

1201
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 1: back the HOA agreement.

1202
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 3: Look, and to be clear, I don't support her like

1203
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 3: I don't like the sister in this story, but in general,

1204
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 3: let your friend use your pool, don't get a get

1205
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 3: over it.

1206
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 4: Come on, yeah, I know, I really think that the

1207
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 4: HOA rules are just coming in to like, just try

1208
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 4: to get anything to get this girl out of.

1209
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 5: Here and not let her stay.

1210
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 4: After pointing this out, my girlfriend said that she understood

1211
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 4: that part and she has been thinking about how she

1212
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 4: acted during this whole thing as well. She went on

1213
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:04,919
Speaker 4: to explain that for once, she just wanted to treat

1214
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:06,839
Speaker 4: her sister as her big sister and not a kid

1215
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 4: that constantly needed watching. Well, I guess after giving her

1216
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 4: examples of ways that this could backfire on us and

1217
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 4: the sisters already thin trust with us, she agreed with

1218
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 4: me and we decided it would be best to do

1219
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 4: the following. We can try and find the spare key

1220
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 4: from her parents' house and retrieve it. My girlfriend is

1221
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 4: going today to do this. We can contact our landlords

1222
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 4: and have our locks changed. This works out because our

1223
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:30,879
Speaker 4: front door locks are starting to stick. We can set

1224
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 4: clear boundaries with the sistern. This includes not being here

1225
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 4: unless one of us is present, no invitation to random

1226
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 4: people to come over, and if that is done, she

1227
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 4: has to leave, and if anything is not followed, then

1228
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 4: contact will be cut. My girlfriend already sent her a

1229
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 4: text message about this and I told her that I

1230
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 4: can be the bad guy if she would like me

1231
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 4: to her. Mom actually called me today and said that

1232
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 4: what I did was a very adult way to go

1233
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 4: about it, and she appreciates me also standing up for

1234
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 4: my girlfriend to her sister.

1235
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 1: You did have all those commenters being like, don't marry

1236
00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: your girlfriend.

1237
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, but that's just the internet. Man.

1238
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 1: I'm just really hung up now on this. I hate Hoa's.

1239
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 3: And I'm annoyed that quoting the HOA rule about using

1240
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 3: the pool is what got your wife to be like.

1241
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,439
Speaker 1: Okay, I was thinking about how I talked.

1242
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 8: It's like, come on, yeah, oh yeah, it's more like

1243
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 8: that she's gonna steal all of our stuff, right, because

1244
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 8: your sister's kind of got problems that need addressing.

1245
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 3: If anything, setting her up and catching her stealing from

1246
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 3: you so that she can have consequences for it might

1247
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:34,240
Speaker 3: be the best thing.

1248
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 1: You can actually do for her. Yeah, she needs consequences.

1249
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 3: That's why she won't stop, is because she constantly gets

1250
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 3: away with it.

1251
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, but there's a little bit more to the story.

1252
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 4: Well, let's go. The biggest thing that I also think

1253
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 4: helped was putting this in future perspective with my girlfriend

1254
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 4: I laid out a scenario when we hopefully have a

1255
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 4: house one day and kids as well. Would we let

1256
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,919
Speaker 4: someone who has a known booze problem as well as

1257
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 4: issues with stealing and safety watch our children alone. She

1258
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 4: started to cry and said no. I explained to her

1259
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 4: that that's why we need hard boundaries now so that

1260
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:06,360
Speaker 4: they are not crossed in the future when we have

1261
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 4: bigger responsibility. Relevant comments comes from Moran says not the

1262
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 4: a whole. I think you're doing the right thing by

1263
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:14,839
Speaker 4: setting clear boundaries early on, but I can see how

1264
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 4: it might feel overwhelming to handle such a sensitive situation

1265
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 4: with family dynamics involved. What if there's a way to

1266
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,839
Speaker 4: involve a neutral third party to mediate without making things

1267
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 4: more complicated?

1268
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 5: Hope, he says.

1269
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 4: If it gets to that point where I need a

1270
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 4: neutral third party, I will consider it. As of now,

1271
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:31,479
Speaker 4: it seems like what I did has worked, but who knows,

1272
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 4: I might be posting again next month. Thankfully, even her

1273
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 4: parents are silently on my side as well.

1274
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 5: That will maybe count for something.

1275
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 4: And now we have a commenter that was downvoted. Maybe

1276
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:42,359
Speaker 4: my family is different, but you don't need to ask

1277
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 4: to come over.

1278
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 1: It's auto.

1279
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 4: This is my house. In my family's house, they can

1280
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,879
Speaker 4: walk in and do whatever they want, with whoever they want.

1281
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 4: But clearly we come from two different cultures. So if

1282
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 4: your girl is okay with it, then by all means,

1283
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 4: but my man, no, my family is showing and whenever

1284
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 4: they want, with whoever they want. Opie says. It may

1285
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 4: be a cultural difference, which is okay. I just don't

1286
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,359
Speaker 4: think it's very appropriate to have a family member bring

1287
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 4: a random over without informing you first. But I guess

1288
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 4: I could be the weird one. That also goes for

1289
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 4: my side of the family as well. Comment to number

1290
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 4: two says you handled it super well, laying out the

1291
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 4: rules and talking it through calmly.

1292
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 5: It was the right move. Just stick to your plan.

1293
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 4: Her sister tries to push it again, cuz keeping those

1294
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 4: boundaries firm will save a lot of future drama. Opie says,

1295
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 4: that's the name of the game right now, just keeping

1296
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:31,399
Speaker 4: the boundaries in place, and followed we'll have one more

1297
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,919
Speaker 4: comment or Comment Number three says just here to say

1298
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 4: I'm proud of you. You did the right thing, and

1299
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 4: thank you for supporting your girlfriend. Opie says, I feel

1300
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 4: like that's part of why I'm here. You know she

1301
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 4: has a hard time standing up for herself, and I've

1302
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 4: seen big improvements by her in this. Anytime something happens

1303
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 4: to her, we always talk it out and maybe different

1304
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 4: ways to handle it.

1305
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 1: Hey, John og hillis here.

1306
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 2: We're gonna get back to this episode, but a quick

1307
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 2: three minute break of ads from a sponsor's keeping the

1308
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:55,800
Speaker 2: show alive.

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00:56:56,440 --> 00:57:00,879
Speaker 7: I accidentally traumatized my friend, and I I don't regret it.

1310
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 7: I twenty one mail live in a flat with my

1311
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 7: two friends, James twenty three and Emma twenty four. Since

1312
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 7: the pandemic started, James's girlfriend, Sarah twenty three, had moved

1313
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 7: in with us. She'd lost her job because of the pandemic,

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00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 7: which had eventually led to her losing her flat. We

1315
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 7: had no issue with her moving in with us. She

1316
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 7: needed a place to stay. She was really chill for

1317
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 7: the first week or two, but she gradually started trying

1318
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 7: to dictate everything in the house. By the way, this

1319
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 7: comes from Mikey Audrey Meyers, and if you want to

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00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 7: submit your own stories, go to the r slash Okay

1321
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 7: storytime subreddit. It started off with really trivial things like

1322
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 7: what movies we watched were big horror fans, Sarah isn't

1323
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 7: what we could eat, having to go without hot water

1324
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 7: so she could take long baths every night, et cetera.

1325
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 7: We all let this slide at first, as she'd been

1326
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 7: through a lot and we didn't want her to feel unwelcome.

1327
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 7: It started to escalate to her dictating what we were

1328
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 7: allowed to eat, moving things around in our rooms, taking

1329
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 7: Emma's things without permission, and even throwing our things away.

1330
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 7: She threw away my signed reanimator poster that my dad

1331
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 7: got me because she was grossed out by it. She'd

1332
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 7: complain all the time about the horror related items in

1333
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 7: mine and Emma's bedroom. Emma and I completely understand that

1334
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 7: not everyone likes horror, but she was quite frankly, being

1335
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 7: a pain in the butt. So we refuse to stop

1336
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 7: wearing our horror t shirts, and as we wore them

1337
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 7: all the time way before Sarah moved in with us,

1338
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 7: they're not graphic in the slightest where I might be

1339
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 7: a massive a hole. It happened last week, and I'm

1340
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 7: still getting a lot of crap for it. It wasn't

1341
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 7: too long after she threw away the reanimator poster I

1342
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 7: mentioned I was still pretty pissed off, as it was

1343
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 7: a present from my dad. We don't speak anymore due

1344
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 7: to family troubles. I'd taken a nap. Sleep schedule isn't great,

1345
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 7: and when I woke up and left my bedroom, I

1346
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 7: saw Emma, James, and Sarah sitting on the sofa watching Hereditary.

1347
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 7: I was surprised, to say the least, but found out

1348
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 7: later that Sarah and James had thought if she's there

1349
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 7: long enough, Emma would leave. She was watching the movie

1350
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 7: before they came back, and they could make out or

1351
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 7: whatever on the sofa. No idea why they didn't just

1352
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 7: go into James's room, but you know, I decided to

1353
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 7: be petty snuck over to the sofa and waited. For

1354
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 7: those who don't know, one of the main characters in

1355
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 7: the movie does a tongue click sort of thing quite

1356
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 7: a lot. I waited for a quiet moment and did

1357
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 7: the tongue click.

1358
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 5: Sarah freaked out. I got an earfull from both of them.

1359
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 7: About how I was an a hole for scaring Sarah

1360
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 7: when I know how much she hates horror movies, and

1361
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 7: how I'm childish. I accept that it was pretty childish,

1362
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 7: but I was stressed and petty. But she's been telling

1363
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 7: people about how I traumatized her and how she couldn't

1364
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 7: sleep all night. She was right about that, but from

1365
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 7: the noises coming from their bedroom, I don't think it's

1366
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 7: because she was scared. She even told me that I

1367
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 7: gave her a panic attack, which I did. Am I

1368
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 7: the A hole and we had a verdict not the

1369
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 7: A whole and some relevant comments regented fourteen not the

1370
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 7: A whole. If she's that freaked out, she should not

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00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 7: be sitting there watch the movie. OPI responds, thinks, yeah,

1372
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 7: I thought it was weird because she complained when we

1373
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 7: watched Goosebumps, But she'll quite happily sit there.

1374
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 5: When an adult horror is on. I don't understand her.

1375
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 7: Ziren jer Lynn says, not the A hole. Her throwing

1376
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 7: out your stuff is a weener move. Not gonna lie.

1377
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 7: She's not the one on the lease. She should go.

1378
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 7: This chick is taking advantage of the situation. She may

1379
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 7: have crossed the line one too many times, and obviously

1380
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 7: no one else has said anything not cool in the slightest.

1381
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 7: All I'm gonna say is if she would have thrown

1382
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 7: my stuff out of my room without my permission, violating

1383
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 7: my privacy. Some choice words would have been said, and

1384
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 7: Opie said, thanks. I did have some choice words for her,

1385
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 7: but I was too upset to actually have a go

1386
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 7: at her. I know it's stupid, but I actually cried,

1387
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 7: which is not stupid at all.

1388
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 5: Opie, that's a lot she's thorre me out. We have things.

1389
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 7: That was something my dad got for me and it

1390
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 7: was a nice memory. We're hoping she'll get her own place,

1391
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 7: but not sure how long that's gonna go.

1392
01:00:57,520 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 5: Not the a hole.

1393
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 7: But you guys need to have some kind of housemates

1394
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 7: meeting to discuss Sarah's BS and tell James that this

1395
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 7: can't continue. She doesn't even pay rent, and even if

1396
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 7: she did, she shouldn't be dictating what you can't have

1397
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 7: in your own room, what you can wear, throwing out

1398
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 7: your stuff, et cetera. It's crazy that you've let this

1399
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 7: go on for as so long as it is. As

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01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:22,920
Speaker 7: for traumatizing Sarah, that's absolutely ridiculous. She was watching the

1401
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 7: scary movie by her own choice. She needs to get

1402
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 7: a grip. Opie says. It's sort of a lose lose situation.

1403
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 7: We know for a fact that James is more likely

1404
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 7: to take Sarah's side in all this, that'll just make

1405
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:36,439
Speaker 7: things really awkward and tense. We have to keep dealing

1406
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 7: with her bs if we don't call attention to it,

1407
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 7: we accept it's our own fault for letting this go

1408
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 7: on so long. Hopefully she either finds her own place

1409
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:45,439
Speaker 7: or we can figure out a way to move out

1410
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 7: once we manage to get our financial situation in order.

1411
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 7: Thanks for commenting, and there's an edit. Wow, I didn't

1412
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 7: expect all the kind comments and awards. Thank you so

1413
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 7: much to everyone. I figured I should clarify a few things,

1414
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 7: as I've seen a few people in the comments suggesting

1415
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 7: slash asking similar things. No, Sarah does not pay for anything.

1416
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 7: She paid about half of what the rest of us

1417
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 7: pay for a couple months, then stopped due to money troubles.

1418
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 7: We have tried talking to her in James about her

1419
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 7: attitude and trying to dictate everything we do in our

1420
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 7: own home. James stopped talking to us for a couple

1421
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 7: days and it was really awkward and tense in the

1422
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 7: flat for a while. We've spoken to Sarah about her

1423
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 7: behavior multiple times, but she just accuses us of overreacting.

1424
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 7: The only time I've actually yelled at her was when

1425
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 7: she threw away some of my things. Emma and I

1426
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 7: have contacted the landlord to see if there's any chance

1427
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 7: we can install a lock on our bedroom door, which

1428
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 7: is a great idea ten out of ten. I know

1429
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 7: scaring her was childish, but I just sort of snapped.

1430
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 7: Not an excuse, but part of me doesn't fully regret it.

1431
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 7: She made our life heck, and it gives me a

1432
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 7: tiny sense of satisfaction knowing that got her back in

1433
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 7: a small way. Emma and I can't move out due

1434
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 7: to financial troubles, or we would have. We have, however,

1435
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 7: been keeping an eye out for affordable places to stay.

1436
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:00,120
Speaker 7: We're going to have a talk with James when he

1437
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 7: gets back and discuss Sarah getting her own place, so

1438
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 7: hopefully we won't have to move out of our own home.

1439
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 7: Thank you everyone for the support. Oh and yeah, the

1440
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 7: poster was signed by Jeffrey Cobs and we have an

1441
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 7: update to start. I want to start with thanking the

1442
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 7: people who commented and offered advice on my last post.

1443
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 7: It was really appreciated and really helped. I've also accepted

1444
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 7: that I am a bit of an a hole for

1445
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 7: being so petty but a part of me doesn't really

1446
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 7: regret scaring Sarah. Myself and Emma spoke with James about

1447
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 7: Sarah's behavior, dictating what we can and can't do in

1448
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 7: our flat, throwing away our belongings, et cetera. Needless to say,

1449
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 7: this did not go to plan and it ended in

1450
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 7: a huge argument and what I believe to be the

1451
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 7: end of our friendship. There was a lot of yelling

1452
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 7: and nothing got resolved. He told Sarah about our talk,

1453
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 7: and she went out of her way to make nasty

1454
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 7: comments about us and call us pathetic. My anxiety was

1455
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 7: through the roof in the days after our row, as

1456
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 7: I didn't want to lose my friend and I felt

1457
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 7: that I had ruined everything. Maybe I was just being

1458
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 7: pathet Honestly, Emma was my rock through all of this

1459
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 7: hassle and managed to convince me that this wasn't my fault.

1460
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 7: He's an angel.

1461
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 5: Anyways.

1462
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 7: Skipped to last week, we get a call from one

1463
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 7: of our friends, Sam. He'd just recently moved out of

1464
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:15,000
Speaker 7: his parents' house and into a nice two bedroom apartment.

1465
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:17,440
Speaker 7: He's been struggling a bit with bills, and due to

1466
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 7: a bad family situation, he can't move back home. He

1467
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 7: asked us if we'd be open to moving in with him.

1468
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 7: He knew about our current situation and wanted to help

1469
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:27,919
Speaker 7: us out. Plus it helps him out financially. Emma and

1470
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:30,440
Speaker 7: I already share a room as well, so there was

1471
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 7: no issues with the bedroom. Plus Sam is a huge

1472
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 7: har nerd like us, so it works out for the best.

1473
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 7: We've already given James and our landlord a fair warning.

1474
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 7: He was a godsend. Emma and I are moving out

1475
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:45,440
Speaker 7: in a few weeks. We have some things to get sorted,

1476
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 7: personal and financial, then we'll be out of here. Our

1477
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 7: friend's apartment is a little further away from our work

1478
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 7: slash college than we'd like, but we can work something out.

1479
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 7: It's worth getting up half an hour earlier to go

1480
01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 7: to work rather than have to deal with Sarah. We

1481
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:01,200
Speaker 7: didn't want to leave our home because of her, but

1482
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 7: Emma already has enough on her plate between work and

1483
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:06,640
Speaker 7: her personal life that she doesn't care too much. And

1484
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 7: I'm too emotionally drained to really care about the old place.

1485
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 7: I just want to move out of that stressful environment.

1486
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 7: Not the ending I hoped for, but things are looking

1487
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 7: up for Emma and I.

1488
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 1: Oh.

1489
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 7: Plus We're gonna start saving to go to a convention

1490
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 7: together to get another poster signed once.

1491
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 5: All the good stuff is over.

1492
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 1: That is so sweet.

1493
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 5: I'm so glad you guys.

1494
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:26,600
Speaker 1: Are doing that.

1495
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 7: It won't bring back the poster that my dad got signed,

1496
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 7: but we can make new memories, which will be better

1497
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 7: than just going out and buying a signed, reanimated poster,

1498
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 7: if that makes any sense. Thank you for the help.

1499
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 5: Reddit.

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01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 7: We have some final comments. Angry Acon, congratulations OPI a

1501
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:45,520
Speaker 7: triple hurrah for Emma, Sam and you. I'd be weary

1502
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 7: of another Sarah crap show as the moving day approaches.

1503
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:52,479
Speaker 7: Secure your belonging, and Opie says thank you, and yeah,

1504
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 7: that's a pretty good tip, to be honest, she probably

1505
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 7: would do something like that.

1506
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 5: And an edit.

1507
01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 7: Okay, wow, this got a lot more comments than I

1508
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 7: was expecting. Apologies for not being able to reply, had

1509
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 7: to help out at work and sleep. I've read them

1510
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 7: all though, again sorry for the lack of replies. I've

1511
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:09,920
Speaker 7: seen a lot of people suggesting that Emma and I

1512
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 7: start moving our stuff into Sam's flat asap to keep

1513
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 7: our eyes on our belongings in case Sarah tries anything,

1514
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 7: which is a great idea if you can slowly move,

1515
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 7: start with the stuff that you like the most, start

1516
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 7: taking it over little by little. It'll help you when

1517
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 7: it comes the day to move to Thank you to

1518
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 7: everyone that suggested it. Emma and I have taken your

1519
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 7: advice and we're going to speak to Sam about moving

1520
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 7: some of our belongings into his flat in the next

1521
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 7: couple of weeks. I also saw a lot of people

1522
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:38,720
Speaker 7: asking how Sarah and James reacted when we told them

1523
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 7: that we were moving out. Needless to say, James was

1524
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 7: not happy to hear that he'd have to find new

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Speaker 7: roommates or pay for everything himself.

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Speaker 5: Sarah was also.

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Speaker 7: Not too pleased that her verbal one toing bags would

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Speaker 7: be leaving and that she might have to get a

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Speaker 7: job to help pay rent. I hope this cleared some

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Speaker 7: things up for you guys.

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Speaker 5: That's the end of that. Sounds like things are going

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Speaker 5: really well.

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Speaker 7: Sarah's getting exactly what she deserves. Hopefully everything works out

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Speaker 7: with the new place. Seems like you got a really

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Speaker 7: good head on your shoulders there, so that's great.