WEBVTT - Star Wars: Skeleton Crew Episode 5 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:00.920 Worrying. 0:00:01.040 --> 0:00:05.840 Today's episode contains spoilers for Skeleton Crew episode one oh five. 0:00:06.800 --> 0:00:27.040 There's some big reveals of this, so watch it. Hello, 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:29.680 my name's Jason gets Upside and. 0:00:29.640 --> 0:00:33.640 I'm Rosie Knight And welcome back the Extra Vision, the 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:36.440 podcast where we dive deep into your favorite shows, movies, comics, 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:39.600 and pop culture. Coming to you from our podcast where 0:00:39.600 --> 0:00:42.400 we're bringing you three three three episodes every week every 0:00:42.400 --> 0:00:45.280 Tuesday Thursday, with an ext trapisode every Wednesday. 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:51.120 In today's episode, we're going straight to the Vibe Branton, 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:56.480 politically neutral planetary spa from episode one oh five of 0:00:56.520 --> 0:00:59.440 Skeleton Crew, where surely nothing bad will happen and we 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:02.320 will begging into it momentarily. 0:01:02.880 --> 0:01:09.440 Next up the airlock, we open on at Aton, where 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:14.319 Wendell Whim's dad has gone to work, trying to pretend 0:01:14.440 --> 0:01:20.920 like everything's conky, Dorian is just fine. He and Neil's mom, Numa, 0:01:21.480 --> 0:01:26.840 we learned, have been conspiring a little bit to get 0:01:26.880 --> 0:01:30.840 the access codes to the space barrier so that I 0:01:30.840 --> 0:01:33.480 don't know, they can go look for their kids probably. 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:36.640 And just kind of even like get a message to 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:37.000 them and. 0:01:37.319 --> 0:01:42.080 A message contact to the outside world. Something Wendell hacks 0:01:42.160 --> 0:01:45.680 into the system and downloads the codes to the space 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:52.480 barrier onto a Star Wars USB drive. A safety droid 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:57.200 reads this strange surge of activity coming from Wendel's terminal 0:01:57.280 --> 0:02:02.600 goes over invest this catches him with the USB drive. 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:08.040 The droid alerts Farah Fern's mom, who's the undersecretary of 0:02:08.240 --> 0:02:13.639 whatever that manages this particular workplace. She promptly shuts down 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:16.480 the droid, and we figure out that Farah is also 0:02:16.520 --> 0:02:19.880 somehow involved in this conspiracy, but she seems to be 0:02:19.880 --> 0:02:22.840 more reluctant to really get in loving it. But she 0:02:23.160 --> 0:02:23.640 loving it. 0:02:24.000 --> 0:02:26.080 She does want to get her child back. Yes, you know, 0:02:26.400 --> 0:02:28.239 so she's at least the little bit of a good mom. 0:02:28.400 --> 0:02:33.000 On the pirate ship, Jod is finishing up tying SM 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:35.680 thirty three to a table. The kids turn him on 0:02:36.280 --> 0:02:39.440 and they start interrogating him, whereas at Aden, what do 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:42.000 you know about ad At and what's going on? Jod 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:48.959 recognizes the name of Sam's former captain, tack Renad, and 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:53.080 he figures out that this ship must be tach Renaud's 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:58.799 famous Onyx Cinder, Tack being formally the most infamous pirate 0:02:58.840 --> 0:03:02.679 in the galaxy. Hell's the kids the tail, how Renod 0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:06.320 went in search of the treasure planet at Aten and 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:11.360 then promptly disappeared, and how the old pirate captain's map 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:17.240 to at Aten is hidden in his secret layer. SM 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:19.800 then fills in the rest of the story. He's like, 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:24.880 so Renad was betrayed by his quote unquote Concubine was 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:26.359 troubling details and. 0:03:26.360 --> 0:03:33.000 The kids are like Concubine, like very troubling detail of 0:03:33.040 --> 0:03:34.280 this story. 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:40.680 Apparently tack Renod a trafficker of the various species. And 0:03:40.760 --> 0:03:45.120 we also learned that sm in his capacity as the 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:50.560 right hand droid to Captain Renod, was as we probably guessed, 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:54.600 like a very bloodthirsty mass murderer, like as lots of bodies. 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:57.800 We knew his buddy count was high after he went 0:03:57.840 --> 0:03:58.400 over the child. 0:03:58.600 --> 0:04:01.080 After the children trying to fab limbs off, but like 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:02.960 it's getting higher, that's right. 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:07.800 Wim sneaks off and Jod finds him on his iPad. 0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:08.560 He's crying. 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:11.920 You know what, it doesn't matter what galaxy you're in. 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:15.800 Kids love an iPad. They love they love on Earth 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:20.120 on and like doesn't matter. iPad is over, But yeah, 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:22.960 wom is crying. He's very sweet little guy, and I 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:24.200 was really feeling froment. 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:24.800 This money too. 0:04:25.080 --> 0:04:28.440 He's sad because his big wish to go on on 0:04:28.680 --> 0:04:31.720 a grand adventure came true. But the adventure has been 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:38.120 really dangerous and they've almost died numerous times. And let's 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:43.640 be one hundo about this. They have probably been involved 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:47.520 at least been involved in the deaths of like numerous people. 0:04:47.640 --> 0:04:50.960 Oh definitely, at least a few deaths. 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:54.479 Because even just when they escape the first time, oh yeah, 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:59.000 the uh poor attached like that was lots of depths. 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:02.640 Like they have committed some crimes, so some deaths have occurred. 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:08.479 And when misses his dad and his mom, who we 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:11.599 learned has passed. She's passed and he misses her. She 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:17.680 can't come back. John gives some very Jedi Temple type advice. 0:05:18.240 --> 0:05:22.120 He's like Qui gon Jin r he he literally. 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:26.640 Quotes Qui gon Jin and says, you shape your reality 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:31.320 Qui gon Jin's, you know, advice from the Phantom Menace. 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:34.080 And then he says, you know, be a bunch of 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:38.560 you know, Jedi philosophy shit at the several attachments. 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:40.480 Just attachments they told you down. 0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:44.800 You don't need that, don't give into your emotions that 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:49.280 complicates things. Then he picks up the tablet with the 0:05:49.320 --> 0:05:52.240 force and one hundred percent, which confirmed. Now this guy 0:05:52.600 --> 0:05:53.800 can use the force. 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:56.080 Really strong magnets. 0:05:56.400 --> 0:05:59.159 But they do they do the sound. This is the 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:02.120 first time. This is the first time they use This 0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:04.000 is the first time they do the sound when he 0:06:04.040 --> 0:06:08.080 picks up the tablet. So thus it basically he's got it. 0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:09.440 Yes, he's got it. 0:06:10.040 --> 0:06:14.039 So he's probably he's not a Jedi, but he's Jedi 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:15.280 trained clearly. 0:06:14.960 --> 0:06:17.960 Yeah, oh he's all he's for sensitive and new someone 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:18.800 who is Jedi trained. 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:20.880 Let's get to this light because also our discord has 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:23.279 some great Yes, we can do a though jod watch. 0:06:23.360 --> 0:06:29.440 Afterwards, we go to uh the Skullridge Mountain where Captain 0:06:29.480 --> 0:06:34.840 Reynold's lair is hidden. The planet is known as Lenoopa, 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:38.320 and it's now you know, like a spa like a 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:39.760 Switzerland type. 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:43.520 An adult plant spa planet's which also like if it's 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:45.800 an adult Sony planet, does that mean it's like Star 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:49.360 Wars swingers because usually like if you're in Palm Springs 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:52.000 and that like adult Sony resort, you're like, uh, do 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:52.840 I want to do swinging? 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:54.640 I think there's some of that. I mean, like there's 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:58.040 a hut. We see a hut in the mud baths 0:06:58.080 --> 0:07:01.280 and listen, we know like huts, like they're into weird shit. 0:07:01.440 --> 0:07:02.000 So they're in. 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:04.839 It's very clear that this is not a place for kids. 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:08.159 Jod makes the kids promise to just stay on the 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:10.320 ship while he goes and checks things out, and then 0:07:10.360 --> 0:07:12.920 he shakes them down for all of their existing money 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:17.800 for bribes and stuff. And we're going to shake our 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:21.679 sponsors down for some money now, and we'll be back 0:07:21.840 --> 0:07:40.800 after a word from them, and we're back. So they 0:07:40.920 --> 0:07:46.280 land the ship. Jod gets the kids dressed up as 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:50.800 members of the brat Trick Race, which is apparently like 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:57.320 a shorter statued kind of very heavily moss and people 0:07:57.600 --> 0:08:05.560 appearing tightly evoking Jahwa type species but like hooded and 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:10.000 very small. And he, you know, is passing himself off 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:14.080 as their translator. These are the four Wise Masters, and 0:08:14.120 --> 0:08:15.000 I am their translator. 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:15.360 Yeah. 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:17.840 And also interestingly, the reason he has to do this 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:20.880 is because he needs Sam, but because Fern is still 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:23.720 the captain, Sam will only go f Fun goes, And 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:26.400 that is important with where we leave the. 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:31.240 Character that the SPA apparently has been built right on 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:36.760 top of Captain Reynold's lair. And also there's some heightened 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:39.440 security because the Banking Guild is meeting here and so 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:42.120 they just want to make sure that there's no spies 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:45.080 or people in disguise and that kind of stuff. Things 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:49.120 immediately go left when a bounty hunter named Pocket played 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:51.400 by the wonderful Kelly McDonald. 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:54.640 Love Kelly McDonald of Boardwalk Empire, fame of. 0:08:56.200 --> 0:09:00.760 Train spotting fame, Wow, you name it. 0:09:00.760 --> 0:09:01.880 It's the British legend. 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:08.120 Oh Marita from Brave Forget the absolutely, forget. 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:08.480 The Boys acting. 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:13.920 Also No Country for Old Men, No what an absolute legend. Also, 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:16.600 she is in Tea two, which is the Transporting sequel, 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:19.079 which you might think would suck, but actually quite good. 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:24.760 Quite good, pretty good. She recognizes John as her former 0:09:24.840 --> 0:09:29.120 compatriot Dash Zenten. How many names. 0:09:28.800 --> 0:09:30.880 Does this man have now? I think you at least 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:33.080 up to like almost double digit. 0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:38.560 And apparently when last she saw Dash, she was in 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:42.160 a pit of leeches where Dash left her in some 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:46.560 amount of distress, and she warns the kids don't trust 0:09:46.559 --> 0:09:51.839 this sliml oh classic hotees and saut that. 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:54.640 So she's obviously spent some time with some hots. 0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:58.200 They get up to their room, which is luxurious, and 0:09:58.240 --> 0:10:01.160 the kids are like, holy shit, this is the nicest place. 0:10:00.880 --> 0:10:02.160 We've ever been. 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:05.640 Jod is like, hey, we're here on business. And not 0:10:05.720 --> 0:10:09.440 only that, because Pocket just id'd me she's gonna be 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:13.000 calling in the bounty, So like, we gotta we gotta 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:15.160 get moving right now. We got to get the Renod's 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:19.160 lair right now. There's no messing about. Meanwhile, and just 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:22.520 as he thought, Pocket is calling in the bounty, she 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:26.679 calls Brutus the captain the pirate Captain Wolfman. Captain Wolfman 0:10:26.720 --> 0:10:28.440 and the pirates are on their way. John and the 0:10:28.520 --> 0:10:31.240 kids split into two teams to search the spot to 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:34.240 look for Reynaud's lair. They're looking for a specific symbol 0:10:34.320 --> 0:10:39.040 that Renod puts on stuff his personal brand. John, Neil 0:10:39.240 --> 0:10:43.600 and KB in one team, Fern, women sm and another group. 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:47.480 Security finds Jod and immediately they're like, hey, are you 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:50.880 dash Zenten or Professor whatever your name is? 0:10:51.000 --> 0:10:53.240 Oh yeah, well I have a fake name you gave. 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:55.320 That he tried to. They tried to check ins and 0:10:55.360 --> 0:10:58.439 they immediately go on the run. They're getting chased. Meanwhile, 0:10:58.920 --> 0:11:02.560 Fern and Whim go down into the grotto like the 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:07.000 steam Grottos, Oh wow, where they find Renod's sign. And 0:11:07.160 --> 0:11:09.760 also they make the acquaintance of this huge squid guy 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:16.120 named Cathollops, who I really enjoyed and I want mores. 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:16.840 I thought he was great. 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:21.200 Also really nice to see a little creature. 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:24.640 A lot of the Mandalorian creature works stunning, but it's 0:11:24.800 --> 0:11:28.319 always been about conflict and fighting an animal and killing 0:11:28.360 --> 0:11:28.880 an animal. 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:32.280 This was nice to see a little creature collaboration. 0:11:32.760 --> 0:11:38.400 I agree. When John, Neil and KB finally get down 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:42.840 to the grottos to liaise with their other team, it 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:46.720 turns out that Wim has told Cathollops the whole story. 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:49.200 Cathollops is really into it. He loves the adventure, he 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:52.680 loves a good tale. He sniffs John AND's like, don't 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:55.560 trust this guy, but whatever, And then he smashes open 0:11:55.600 --> 0:12:00.439 the floor so our heroes can get down into Renodd's lair. Then, 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:04.520 who has been there before, leads everybody through Reynaud's Maize, 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:05.839 which is totally a. 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:08.680 Goony's Yeah, I was gonna say so, Gooni's lots of 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:11.640 booby traps, booby traversing the whole thing. Also can I 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:14.000 just say I actually did go to a spa in 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:15.959 this twenty twenty five the first month. 0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:18.040 Good for you, And I have to say that the 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:21.720 grotto is real. They actually have those in the spa. 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:25.360 They do go underground and you're being steamed in a grotto. 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:28.880 Probably talking mud Wild had no idea, but my grotto 0:12:28.960 --> 0:12:29.959 sadly did not have. 0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:33.680 I want to say also that I love a spa. 0:12:33.840 --> 0:12:35.960 I love the self care, I love a grotto, I 0:12:35.960 --> 0:12:38.200 love a steam room, the whole thing. I think it's great. 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:38.720 I get it. 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:40.480 Catholops, Yeah, me too. 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:42.920 Like that's a good place to works. If anyone wants 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:45.440 to send us on that tri Vision spa, we'll take it. 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:47.120 That's a good way to start twenty twenty five. 0:12:47.440 --> 0:12:49.720 So the pirates are now on planet and they are 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:52.880 hot on our friend's heels. Our heroes come to a 0:12:52.960 --> 0:12:56.559 chamber of acid. It's one of those escape room type puzzles. 0:12:56.600 --> 0:12:58.800 They figure out how to drain it. They look for 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:01.640 Renaud's symbol and that is how they drain it. 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:06.520 And it's a classic good Gooney's moment. Hey, you've got 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:11.280 to solve a puzzle. The puzzle is what's the greatest sacrifice. 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:16.040 The greatest sacrifice is not life, because we're not pirates 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:16.560 don't care. 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:20.320 It was treasure, and of course Jod. 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:25.880 Magically force throws some old Republic coin into that and 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:26.880 drains it. 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:30.480 And it turns into like a draining, gross acid like 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:32.520 toilet with a stairs. 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:32.960 Love that. 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:35.480 So as they go down the stairs, the pirates are there. 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:37.080 They have to close it back up to keep the 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:41.199 pirates at bay. And now they find themselves in Reynold's 0:13:41.280 --> 0:13:44.480 treasure room. Somewhere in this treasure room, hidden are the 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:50.040 coordinates Atton disguised, Jod says, is a data port. It's 0:13:50.080 --> 0:13:52.360 going to be some hidden kind of data port. And 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:54.880 so they look around, look around, look around. Neil finds 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:59.040 the clue. It's what appears to be like a very fresh, 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:03.000 freshly cooked, fresh out of the kitchen piece of like 0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:06.960 roast beef on a table of like rotten food. So 0:14:07.360 --> 0:14:11.480 they open that and boom, Captain Renod's journal appears and 0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:15.320 it's got the coordinates to a Atton and everything. John 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:20.120 as sm play a video of Reynod, who quite notably 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:21.800 you cannot see who he is. 0:14:21.920 --> 0:14:24.400 He's like, yes, I thought that was a very big thing. 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:25.280 I'm like, is it. 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:28.680 I don't see how it could be jawed, but it 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:30.840 is feeling like there's some kind. 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:32.920 Of like, whoever it is, it's gonna be important. 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:35.560 It's gonna be a it's gonna be a holy shit moment. 0:14:35.600 --> 0:14:40.480 You definitely get the feeling about that. And we learn 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:45.440 also that at Aton is the location of the last 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:48.840 run of coins from the Old Republic Treasury. The mint. 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:53.080 Apparently they have the presses and stuff and they keeping 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:55.840 they can keep making credits from the Old Republic and 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:59.200 that's the location of the Old Republic Treasury. John is 0:14:59.440 --> 0:15:03.960 very very He then turns on the kids. He challenges 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:07.080 Fern for the captaincy, saying I challenge you by right 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:13.280 of pirates to single combat for captain c And he's like, 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:16.360 and you can just yield, just yield, because otherwise I'm 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:18.120 gonna have to fight you, and he holds a knife 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:21.520 to her neck. It's a terrible moment. She eventually yields, 0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:25.640 and now sm follows. Jod Wim stands up to him 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:30.040 and pulls out a lightsaber and he's like, that's it. 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:31.880 I'm not gonna let you do this, and then he 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:34.760 ignites the lightsaber and just as you would expect when 0:15:34.760 --> 0:15:39.080 a child who has zero training in the force, has 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:43.080 never held a lightsaber, much less ignited one has fired 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:47.280 a gun, but like badly ignites a lightsaber. He almost 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:49.360 cuts his hand off, and he almost cuts his hand off, 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:53.960 it like goes skittering across the floor. The kids trigger 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:56.720 a trapdoor, they drop out of sight. They escape from Jod, 0:15:56.760 --> 0:16:00.600 who picks up the lightsaber with the force and ignites 0:16:00.640 --> 0:16:02.560 it in a very ominous fashion. 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:06.160 And see, we don't get to see him ignite it, 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:15.640 so they don't let us know that, Like. 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:14.600 What color ism? 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:16.880 Wow? A great episode. This show is just. 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:21.640 Well, let's go to another word from our sponsors and 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:38.760 then we'll come back and let's talk about this episode. 0:16:39.400 --> 0:16:44.280 And we're back. Okay, Rosie, First, what's up with John? 0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:45.320 We gotta talk about John. 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:47.440 Talk about John. Let's talk about John. 0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:50.840 Okay, what are your top three like job theories? Like, 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:53.800 what do you think is your most likely jog theory, 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:57.680 your craziest job theory, and just like what you actually 0:16:57.720 --> 0:16:58.640 think John's doing. 0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:05.480 I do think Jod is a I think Jod is 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:11.200 a former acolyte of the Jedi Temple who, for reasons unknown, 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:18.600 has gone bad. I do think that he placed himself 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:23.560 in that jail at the beginning of the season, hoping 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:26.119 to pick up the thread that would lead him to 0:17:26.160 --> 0:17:28.080 add at and he knows too much about it. He 0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:33.760 knows it seems like there are definite connections. He seems 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:35.600 to know all the players involved. 0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:38.000 Yeah, and he definitely wanted to get back there. 0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:42.200 And it feels as if there's some sort of connection 0:17:43.440 --> 0:17:46.919 the fact that we didn't see who Captain Renaud is. 0:17:48.080 --> 0:17:51.959 You know, you wonder is he Captain Renaud and he 0:17:52.000 --> 0:17:52.800 can't remember? 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:55.200 That's what I was gonna say, is that some kind 0:17:55.240 --> 0:17:58.119 of like is it that he doesn't remember that he 0:17:58.280 --> 0:17:59.240 is Captain Renaud? 0:17:59.280 --> 0:18:04.120 He has like some kind of you know, amnesia. 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:07.520 That is a very classic storyline, and say, like a 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:10.520 noir movie is the idea that you're searching for someone 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:14.159 an incredible Mickey Mickey Rock movie Angel Heart, That's a 0:18:14.200 --> 0:18:16.679 big plot of the movie is like are you the villain? 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:19.280 Can you just not remember the person you're? You're that 0:18:19.359 --> 0:18:22.399 you are the person you're searching for? So that's really interesting. 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:25.600 Now, force or no, because I think that there is 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:30.359 still certainly people in our discord are still on the 0:18:30.359 --> 0:18:35.240 fence about whether Jod is using. I would say, I 0:18:35.440 --> 0:18:38.560 think he is simply because they've made the sound this time. 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:41.240 They made sound. I like that read. I will say 0:18:41.359 --> 0:18:43.240 J two seventeen makes a good point. 0:18:43.280 --> 0:18:46.160 He said, I'm thinking John's not even for sensitive every 0:18:46.200 --> 0:18:50.159 teleconnected trick. He pulled datapad, knife, saber. It was with 0:18:50.240 --> 0:18:52.440 the gloved hand I call magnets. 0:18:52.760 --> 0:18:52.920 Now. 0:18:52.960 --> 0:18:55.480 I like this, But I will say there is another 0:18:55.640 --> 0:18:59.520 theory that I think is very interesting which is coming 0:18:59.600 --> 0:19:02.720 up in the which is that Jod is maybe the 0:19:02.960 --> 0:19:05.800 child of a Jedi or. 0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:07.960 Padawan who parents were killed. 0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:12.000 And josmick One made a great point that Jod is 0:19:12.040 --> 0:19:15.240 the Jim Hawkins parallel in the Treasure Island of it. Also, 0:19:15.359 --> 0:19:17.359 if he was a child of the Jedi padawan whose 0:19:17.400 --> 0:19:19.960 parents were killed and he joined the pirates, that would 0:19:20.119 --> 0:19:21.920 line up with Jim Hawkins story. 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:24.320 And in a sense why it's a little bit rough, 0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:26.240 like his use is a little bit rough. 0:19:26.520 --> 0:19:29.720 I like that as well, because I think that whims 0:19:29.760 --> 0:19:32.600 reveal that he lost his mom seemed to be the 0:19:32.680 --> 0:19:37.360 thing that touched Jod, and Jod want to give him 0:19:37.359 --> 0:19:40.280 this advice, which is just kill your feelings, you know, 0:19:41.359 --> 0:19:43.840 and it seemed like they connected on some level Like 0:19:43.880 --> 0:19:44.760 that definitely. 0:19:44.840 --> 0:19:47.040 I also like this one from Kirkbride, which was like, 0:19:47.160 --> 0:19:50.040 could the concubine that stabbed Captain Renad in the back 0:19:50.200 --> 0:19:53.120 end up being Whim's mother because we never met her, 0:19:53.560 --> 0:19:55.479 we could end up in a situation where that's how 0:19:55.480 --> 0:19:58.320 they ended up on an in I think that one 0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:02.840 is cool. Also, j One had another good catch, which 0:20:02.880 --> 0:20:06.520 is the symbol for Captain Renaud looks like two lightning bolts, 0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:10.840 heavily stylized to look like the Aura Besh that surrounds it, 0:20:11.160 --> 0:20:14.000 and the Niil symbol, which is like a big group 0:20:14.080 --> 0:20:17.439 from the High Republic books, is three lightning bolts. So 0:20:17.480 --> 0:20:20.359 there's maybe they're trying to build in a Nihill connection here. 0:20:20.840 --> 0:20:22.400 I think that's very interesting. 0:20:23.240 --> 0:20:27.480 I'm interested because, and I will say Josmick also says 0:20:27.480 --> 0:20:30.240 he's not one hundred percent sold on at and still 0:20:30.280 --> 0:20:31.000 being a mint. 0:20:31.119 --> 0:20:32.120 I also feel. 0:20:31.960 --> 0:20:33.919 Like that might be like a halfway through the season 0:20:34.000 --> 0:20:36.080 fake out of what the treasure truly is. 0:20:36.400 --> 0:20:37.840 But it's definitely a really. 0:20:37.600 --> 0:20:41.720 Interesting notion, and it would fit into the way that 0:20:41.800 --> 0:20:43.640 this show has done such a good job of kind 0:20:43.680 --> 0:20:47.520 of expanding our understanding of the Force and the universe 0:20:47.560 --> 0:20:50.760 of Star Wars without having to try to be connected 0:20:50.760 --> 0:20:52.719 to something else. So if it really was just like 0:20:52.840 --> 0:20:54.880 it's a mint and that's why the pirates are looking 0:20:54.880 --> 0:20:57.160 for it, I think that's interesting. But I do still 0:20:57.160 --> 0:21:00.600 think there's a potential for a Kaiber mind or something 0:21:00.600 --> 0:21:06.000 that's a little bit more kind of legendary outside of 0:21:06.160 --> 0:21:08.760 pirate circles, So I'm very interested. 0:21:08.880 --> 0:21:11.399 What do I think about Jod. I think this is the. 0:21:11.280 --> 0:21:13.840 Heel turn that we knew Jod was going to have 0:21:13.920 --> 0:21:16.160 to have, like it was always coming at some point, 0:21:16.440 --> 0:21:19.119 but it did still hit really hard. I think Jude 0:21:19.200 --> 0:21:21.880 Law is a gem in this, and I think it's 0:21:22.000 --> 0:21:25.119 wild that he is not getting award nods because I 0:21:25.240 --> 0:21:29.240 just think he's so good and such a perfect balance 0:21:29.359 --> 0:21:33.159 of like smarmy he could turn his back on you 0:21:33.200 --> 0:21:37.879 at any moment, but also charming and cares about the 0:21:37.960 --> 0:21:41.400 kids a little bit. I think that he will eventually 0:21:41.920 --> 0:21:44.760 help save the kids. That is kind of what the 0:21:44.880 --> 0:21:47.119 lore of these kind of stories tells me and what 0:21:47.200 --> 0:21:51.520 I expect from the character. I hope he's Force sensitive, 0:21:51.640 --> 0:21:54.359 because we did talk in the discord about I like 0:21:55.560 --> 0:22:00.000 Force users who just love the Force and aren't necessy 0:22:00.119 --> 0:22:03.399 really trained in it. So, say a Chiru from Rogue 0:22:03.400 --> 0:22:05.800 One is like one of my favorite Force users who 0:22:05.840 --> 0:22:08.800 in a time where Jedi was more accessible, obviously would 0:22:08.800 --> 0:22:11.239 have been a Jedi potentially, but he still had this 0:22:11.280 --> 0:22:14.880 deep connection to the Force, and I think those kind 0:22:14.880 --> 0:22:17.560 of relationships to it are really interesting. Obviously we both 0:22:17.600 --> 0:22:19.760 love the Last Jedi. You have that kind of democratic 0:22:20.359 --> 0:22:22.960 promise of the Force at the end. So I hope 0:22:22.960 --> 0:22:26.200 he's a Force user, but I'm not gonna lie this 0:22:26.240 --> 0:22:29.720 episode specifically. When I was rewatching it, I was like, oh, 0:22:30.040 --> 0:22:35.480 everything that he does the Force with is metal, Like 0:22:35.680 --> 0:22:37.840 it really feels very specific. 0:22:38.080 --> 0:22:43.320 It is true that said, I think the philosophy part 0:22:43.480 --> 0:22:48.960 is so like so it is so the Jedi Manual. Yeah, 0:22:49.080 --> 0:22:53.199 it's definitely not the stuff that they tell you that 0:22:53.280 --> 0:22:55.440 they just tell people off the street. You know what 0:22:56.000 --> 0:23:00.400 you actually it may sound bad, you get the Yeah, 0:23:00.520 --> 0:23:03.840 you definitely have to be indoctrinated and kind of go 0:23:04.080 --> 0:23:07.480 quite a ways down the path to start getting that 0:23:07.800 --> 0:23:13.760 kind of absolutely attachment material. So I and then the 0:23:13.840 --> 0:23:15.160 Qui Gungean court, I. 0:23:15.240 --> 0:23:19.320