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Speaker 1: Happy New Year. We hope everyone had a lovely holiday season.

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Speaker 1: We promise we will be back next week with brand

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Speaker 1: new episodes. But today we are re releasing our twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty five episode with Josh Sharp because he is taking

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Speaker 1: his one man show Tada to London this February, and

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Speaker 1: you can find tickets to that at Josh sharptada dot com.

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Speaker 1: That's Josh Sharp Tada dot com. And you can also

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Speaker 1: find tickets to our two San Francisco Stradio Lab shows

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Speaker 1: on January twenty second and January twenty third. One of

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Speaker 1: them is a stand up show and one is a

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Speaker 1: live podcast show with special guests at linktree dot com

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Speaker 1: Slash Stradio Lab. The link is in our Instagram bio

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Speaker 1: or you can find tickets on the SF sketch Fest website.

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Speaker 1: They're both part of the STEPS Sketch Fest twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: And you can also see me George Severes do stand

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Speaker 1: up in London on February twenty third at the Soho Theater. Okay,

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Speaker 1: we promised we will be back next week with brand

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Speaker 1: new episodes. We love you, Happy New Year. Talk sud.

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Speaker 2: Okay podcast starts now. What's up everyone, you are listening

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Speaker 2: to Stradio Lab. We are in New York City live

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Speaker 2: from Times Square.

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Speaker 3: George still reelings, you're not allowed to speak.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, Josh is being silenced. He said, somethings poetic right

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Speaker 2: before we started recording, and I said, not on my watch.

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Speaker 1: I actually am. It's like one of the most beautiful

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Speaker 1: things I've ever heard. Do you want to say what

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Speaker 1: it was? I said, you know, we're getting prepared. Usually

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Speaker 1: we'd explained the podcast of the guests. This time, none

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Speaker 1: of them have ever listen. Sorry. I just had a

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Speaker 1: moment in the middle of that sentence where I remembered

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Speaker 1: I'm being recorded.

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Speaker 2: Do you ever?

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Speaker 1: I was just like I was truly on autopilot. I

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Speaker 1: was like, all right, I should like try to be

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Speaker 1: charming anyway. So I'm Andy Cohen and welcome to watch

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Speaker 1: what happens live?

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Speaker 2: Or this is not how you act? What the hell whatever?

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Speaker 1: Keep going? So I would saying, I said, you know,

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Speaker 1: I said to Josh, you know, you know the drill,

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Speaker 1: like you know how this works. And Josh said, oh,

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Speaker 1: I know the drill. The drill is a warm bath.

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Speaker 1: The drill is a warm drill. And then of course

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Speaker 1: Josh wisely said that apples that's the title of Fiona

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Speaker 1: Apple song. And here we are and here we are.

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Speaker 3: So now that we've covered that, what I think is,

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Speaker 3: can I say something briefly so the listener remember one

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Speaker 3: thing and I'm done.

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Speaker 2: Remember to the listener.

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Speaker 3: Every beginning to you is actually in media stress to us,

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Speaker 3: like you are seeing your hosts, your friends in the

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Speaker 3: middle of something, and that is keep in trying.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you never know, I'm not going through.

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Speaker 2: People don't give us enough credit for when we say

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Speaker 2: podcast starts now, it actually started ten minutes before that.

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Speaker 1: People don't give us enough credit for pretty much most

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Speaker 1: things that we do. People don't realize that everything we

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Speaker 1: do is an insturmountable mountain that we are in the

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Speaker 1: middle of, bleeding from all holes and trying to climb.

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Speaker 1: And at the peak it says, I heart music.

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Speaker 2: I have to say that this run of recordings we

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Speaker 2: have been, you know, it has I'm like, oh, is

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Speaker 2: this what it's like to be Julia Roberts.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's sort of like.

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Speaker 2: That like club Club, Another Club, airplane, airplanes.

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Speaker 1: Julia Roberts famously Club Club, Another Airplane. She's during the

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Speaker 1: midnight DJ set she's going to the gay bar, she's

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Speaker 1: performing at Fort Lauderdale Pride. I'm mixing metaphors and that's okay.

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Speaker 1: What if they booked Julia Roberts at Fort Lauderdale Pride

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Speaker 1: and she did, like the monologue from Pretty Woman that

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Speaker 2: We actually need to talk about do gay guys care

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Speaker 2: about Julia Roberts at all?

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Speaker 3: What the hell?

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Speaker 2: It's a valid question.

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Speaker 1: I think I think she is.

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Speaker 2: Not disrespected enough actually identity for gay guys to actually

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Speaker 1: Visit. You are so right. She has never had an

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Speaker 2: So everyone's like, yeah, she's good, like she's beautiful, she's amazing,

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Speaker 1: No gay guy is saying, my favorite actress is Julia Roberts,

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Speaker 1: even though of course, when push comes to shove, she

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Speaker 3: You know what they're saying, this will be brief and

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Speaker 3: then okay, Josh, they're saying Aaron Brockovich is my favorite actress.

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Speaker 3: They're not saying Julia Roberts.

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Speaker 2: Says because Aaron Brockwick is an underdog. Thank I'm done.

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Speaker 2: I'm done, I will talk. We can hate our guest today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like so annoyed.

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Speaker 2: It's like we like, so what what What our listeners

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Speaker 2: before and what our guest he doesn't understand, is actually

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Speaker 2: it started like way before he even got here, Like what.

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Speaker 1: The third co host?

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Speaker 3: Do you think you're just like just to sit here

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Speaker 3: to cook, to cut one to cock. It's like I

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Speaker 3: just think, or give me, let me key grip or something.

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Speaker 1: You're ignoring the like do you want to check the shots?

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Speaker 3: I would love to. I love to checking the gate.

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Speaker 3: I die to check the gate.

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Speaker 1: I think I do think there is something very particular

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Speaker 1: like being in a liminal space between roles. Before we

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Speaker 1: Right now you are nothing nothing.

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Speaker 2: But is that sort of sensory deprivation in a way,

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Speaker 2: like are you finally free? Yes? Free?

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Speaker 1: Well it's free, but in another sense, you keep in

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Speaker 1: a subspace if you were actually you're trying to touch.

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Speaker 1: If you're actually feeling liberated, you would be basking in

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Speaker 1: the silence. But I can see you wanting so badly

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, what's he's asking for us to to say? No, Piggy.

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Speaker 3: I hope I've never brought in. Quite frankly, I hope

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Speaker 3: we look at this. I think perhaps the whole episode

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Speaker 1: You know, we used to have the We used to

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Speaker 1: have the bravery of the hutzpah and the punk rock

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Speaker 2: Josh, what happened to our punk rock sensibility? What? No?

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Speaker 1: Because as soon as you said that, I went up

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Speaker 1: with iHeart. Literally as soon as you said we should

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Speaker 1: I would be like, that is so fucking badass, Like,

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Speaker 1: let's do it something really funny. Never introduced a topic.

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Speaker 1: Never promote what you're here to promote exactly, which I'm

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Speaker 3: No, Nora, we'm not on yet.

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Speaker 2: Well why would we promote when our guest doesn't even hear.

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Speaker 3: I'm not here, I'm not on, I don't exist.

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Speaker 1: What were you gonna say?

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Speaker 2: Last night, somebody said they'd been listening to us since

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Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, and I was like, well, darling, we haven't

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Speaker 2: been on since twenty We started in twenty twenty. Time

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Speaker 2: is a flash. Well there is something about all right,

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Speaker 2: all right? Twenty twenty was just twenty sixteen again. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and twenty twenty four is just twenty.

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Speaker 1: Sixteen again, Like we're just doing twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 2: It's gound hog day, but for twenty sixteen sixteen drag.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's it's time to to twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 2: What do you make of this?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Josh, be careful, Please be careful. That was hard

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Speaker 1: to set up. So for anyone who's not watching on YouTube,

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Speaker 2: Well, they can't plumb because they were never high.

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Speaker 1: Excuse me, they were never high because we never promoted it,

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Speaker 1: because we are sort of above it, and yet it's

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Speaker 1: out there, and yet it's out there. So what Josh

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Speaker 1: can't physically. So now he's sort of evoking a kind

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Speaker 2: It's sort of like, oh damn, this guy really can't

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, oh my god, is he okay?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, don't let him is a hard no self harm incoming.

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Speaker 2: I think we should bring in our guests. Please, welcome

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Speaker 2: to the show, our dear friend and whose show is

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Speaker 2: having a run Josh Sharp. By the time this is out,

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Speaker 2: you will know all about it.

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Speaker 3: You'll be all over www dot Josh Sharp today dot

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Speaker 3: com site absolutely and where is it?

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Speaker 2: Until all of time? It's on the internet, sweetheart? Where

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Speaker 3: The Greenwich chiuse some me all know what is the

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Speaker 3: Barrow Street? Sweeney Todd in the Pie Shop, But it's

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Speaker 1: You're playing Stonewalls. You're playing Sweeney.

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Speaker 2: I'm playing Sweeney Yeah, and missus love it and rap

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Speaker 1: Just to be clear, this is one of those you

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Speaker 1: know like John Proctor is the villain and Juliet this

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Speaker 1: is one of these contemporary reboots of a classic musicals

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Speaker 1: that is the hero. Yes, like it's more kind of

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Speaker 1: like woke and LGBT. Right, so it's.

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Speaker 4: About right to end at tea. Yeah, there's no, there's

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Speaker 4: no A. No, I know A can I actually being

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Speaker 4: not an issue with Q?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Is your issue is a queer or is a question?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Yeah, but here's queer, right, but sometimes it's questioning.

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Speaker 2: But this included I'm.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, this instinct is so anti Q, like Q is

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Speaker 1: this all encompassing thing that is like what isn't Q but.

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Speaker 2: Q being questioning? It's like I'm questioning if I'm even Q.

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Speaker 2: Like that's such a crazy meta narrative. Show me someone

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Speaker 2: who isn't question exactly if the letters and you're not

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Speaker 2: Q questioning you haven't seen the matrix yet, Yeah, the

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Speaker 2: point of being under the umbrellas that we see the matrix.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's like the implication that if you're LGB or

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Speaker 1: I'm firmly B, I'm firmly G. It's like, no, you're not.

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Speaker 3: The Q is like underneath all of them. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's the bedrock. It's the bedrock, Honey, it's the bedrock.

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Speaker 3: Q is to be queer, which is to be LGBT?

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Speaker 2: I M plus. You know, the question is the bedrock.

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Speaker 2: The question is the bedrock.

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Speaker 1: The drill is a warm bath lead single, The question

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Speaker 1: is the bedrock, Josh, I have a question.

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Speaker 2: I have a queue when it comes to bed.

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Speaker 3: Rock me, bitch, go ahead and bed rock me up

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Speaker 3: and down.

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Speaker 2: I'm not a rock, your damn bed with this one.

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Speaker 2: Let's go.

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Speaker 1: Insert. I can make your bedrock here.

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Speaker 2: I you know, the punk ok sensibility is of course

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Speaker 2: complicated because at this point you are trying to promote

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Speaker 2: a show that actually you have been working on. It

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Speaker 2: actually does have a week's long run and the months

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Speaker 3: When you're subscribing to GQ magazine, you're subscribing the gay question.

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Speaker 3: And all of this will be addressed in my show.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, at last the bath has been drawn.

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Speaker 3: I sink in deeper.

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Speaker 1: I sink in deeper.

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Something I loved was when she talked in about it,

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Speaker 3: and this is good the cube the New Yorker integral

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Speaker 3: to the topic we'll be discussing later. She talked about

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Speaker 3: how she realized that doing an off Broadway run was

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Speaker 3: her birthright. And I read that and went actually, low

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Speaker 3: key same and now here we are.

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Speaker 1: No, it is sort of whin are you going to

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Speaker 1: be chosen?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And and I.

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Speaker 3: Was already working on this show at the time, and

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Speaker 3: I read that, I was like, wait, it should be

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Speaker 3: one of those.

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Speaker 2: It turned a page for me quite literally. Wow, that's nice, hute, Like, what's.

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Speaker 3: The journey for this thing you're making? I said, it's that.

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Speaker 1: It's that Wow.

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Speaker 3: And then and then and then the producers abound.

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Speaker 1: Oh there are so many producers.

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Speaker 3: Oh God, to have a Mike and a Carlely. God,

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Speaker 3: you'd be lucky to have a Mike or a Carly.

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Speaker 3: Some people have both.

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Speaker 1: You're sneaking in the more traditional promotion. I see.

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Speaker 3: Do you see how we're doing it in such a

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Speaker 3: que way.

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Speaker 1: That's such a cute.

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Speaker 2: It's very sort of the Little Women reboot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and which is non linear. Yeah, oh yes, nonlinear.

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Speaker 3: It's gerwig as fuck the way.

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Speaker 1: I love the Little a little bit. The Little Women reboot.

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Speaker 2: It's so good. Okay, what else would we call it.

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Speaker 1: It's like, oh, there's a new miniseries that's great expectations, Like, oh,

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Speaker 1: they're rebooting great expectations.

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Speaker 2: I'm being normal, So, Josh.

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Speaker 1: Our first segment, as you well know, is called straight Shooters,

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Speaker 1: and in this segment, we ask you a series of

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Speaker 1: rapid fire questions to gauge your familiarity with in complicity

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Speaker 1: and straight culture where you have to choose one thing

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Speaker 1: or another thing, and the one rule is you can't

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Speaker 1: ask any follow up questions. Understand how the game works.

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Speaker 2: Now's the time where Q becomes illegal. Sam, this is

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Speaker 2: sort of the forties. This is yeah, okay, Josh A

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Speaker 2: watched pot never boils? Or can you watch my spot

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Speaker 2: while I go to the toilet? Uh A watched pot

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Speaker 2: never boils?

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Speaker 2: Arthur good one though, okay, pimple popping bids or simple

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Speaker 2: topping tips.

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Speaker 1: Popping bids, shopping at n H and M or choke

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Speaker 1: on an eminem oh.

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Speaker 2: Choking on an M and M. Okay, defying gravity or

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Speaker 2: implying you're mad at me, implying you're mad at me?

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Speaker 1: No smoking or relax I was joking.

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Speaker 3: Relax I was joking that before that was a particularly

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Speaker 3: good round.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: So many of them evocative. A question will not be asked,

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Speaker 3: but a statement will be made. So many of them

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Speaker 3: colon evocative.

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Speaker 1: That's another exact.

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Speaker 2: The reviews are in so many of them evocative.

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Speaker 1: So many of them colon evocatives. Wow, that's actually Kim

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Speaker 1: just trying to do Field to Apple, but she like

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Speaker 1: sort of doesn't quite get there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Honestly, if Kim Pucher's have a song called evocative

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Speaker 2: or a cockativeative, Cambridge does like she does, like her

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Speaker 2: sort of like literary horror album. The medium is the

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Speaker 2: sensual massage. That's that's good.

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Speaker 1: You could The medium is the massage she is writing

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Speaker 1: down Well, Josh's stream, she's on the live stream. She

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Speaker 1: is on the live stream, and she's pressing hard face.

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Speaker 2: She's being like, seriously, you guys, you gotta vote.

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Speaker 1: Kim has been listening since twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was who I talked to last night, was Kim.

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Speaker 2: She came out to me and she was like, I've

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Speaker 2: always loved you since twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 1: So, Josh, wee rank each guest's performance on a scale

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Speaker 1: of zero to one thousand doves. But now it's plays

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Speaker 1: in the Grass and lading on album.

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Speaker 3: Well and Walt Whitman of course, no, oh, he is

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Speaker 3: the original cruising queer. Let's say that all y'all, all y'all,

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Speaker 3: Sniffy's Queen's.

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Speaker 2: Give it up to Walt Whitman.

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Speaker 1: He invisaged Sweatman would have absolutely gone off on.

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Speaker 2: No, he was literally like creating a location, being like

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Speaker 2: it's the creek with all the boys that are shirtless white.

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Speaker 3: Literally, the original Sniffies was blades of grass.

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Speaker 1: Let's say wow, the original original Sniffers with plates of

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Speaker 1: And that's a perfude genius track.

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Speaker 2: Exactly. I'm fast, I contain multitudes of Sun's whole. Yeah, exactly. Oh,

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Speaker 2: I'm seeing our coffee all flying in coffee.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much God.

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Speaker 2: Oh this, oh my god, this so this I say this. Hey, cheers, cheers, cheers. Girls.

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Speaker 1: Damn now you're left out speaking. Oh my god, under

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Speaker 1: your breath speaking of this, has Aaron told my favorite thing?

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Speaker 1: Is that part?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I love just to put sort of like

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Speaker 3: a three year delay on lexicon for the most Yes, yes,

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Speaker 3: it's like, but the things that are happening now in

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Speaker 3: conversation for the most part.

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Speaker 2: First of all, it's all all a cart.

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Speaker 3: If you're slavishly devoted to every bit that the kids

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Speaker 3: are saying, oh, it's pathetic. You pick what works for you,

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Speaker 3: but often I'm putting them in a little lock box.

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Speaker 3: Twenty sixteen, I'm putting them in a lock box and

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Speaker 3: I'm saving them for three years from now. And that's

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Speaker 3: one where I'm like, finally, let's do.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm ready to do that part that Sam

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Speaker 1: has a theory.

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Speaker 2: I have a really exciting theory that I think you're

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Speaker 2: gonna like, I think yos Queen is about to come back.

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Speaker 3: See that's what I mean. We're getting the port raum.

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Speaker 3: Like absolutely, I'm down for that.

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Speaker 2: Like when I heard I because I'm in a hotel

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Speaker 2: currently and they have like in the elevator, they have

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Speaker 2: all these like fake buttons that have like letters on

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Speaker 2: them and then some of them are highlighted and it

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Speaker 2: says yos Queen, And I was like, that is the

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Speaker 2: funniest thing I love ever seen. I love it. It's

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Speaker 2: so back.

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Speaker 3: If you looked at my phone, the amount of alarms

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Speaker 3: are set, it's all alarms for four years from now.

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Speaker 3: Remember to bring back this.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Well, you're like an archivist.

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Speaker 3: You're laying it's overheating. It is hot to the touch

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Speaker 3: my device because of how many long term alarms. I

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Speaker 3: have set to remember these things.

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Speaker 1: So give us an give us sort of an idea

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Speaker 1: of what types of things are you seeing maybe in

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Speaker 1: the coming year, Oh that are going to make a comeback?

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Speaker 1: Like I'm like, okay, so, Yas Queen, what else from

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Speaker 1: that era? I mean, are we talking boob pillows are

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Speaker 1: coming back? Like a pillow that has that's good line

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Speaker 1: drawings of boobs? Are we talking or is it?

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Speaker 2: Like I wonder if there's this is sort of akin

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Speaker 2: to yos Queen. It's a little further back, but like

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Speaker 2: is bacon core?

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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Being like, can I have to say I've always loved

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Speaker 3: yas Queen with an M at the end?

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Speaker 2: Queen?

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Speaker 3: Something about that is really right to me? Q answer queen, Queen.

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Speaker 2: Are question?

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Speaker 1: It's not queen or queen? Actually that is the spectrum,

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Speaker 1: is QQQ? Queer questioning Queen?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, funny, I know where you start and I know

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Speaker 3: where you're end. And I won't say them because I

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Speaker 3: know them and you should know them.

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Speaker 2: Should what do we think is coming? Or no? You

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Speaker 2: want know? You go something? Now?

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Speaker 3: I was gonna I was gonna go what do I

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Speaker 3: think is coming back? But I don't have the answer

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Speaker 3: in my head right now.

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Speaker 2: And this is one of those that's a question that

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Speaker 2: Q is so answer based that I do think is

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Speaker 2: somewhat illegal for a podcast when when you're asking a

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Speaker 2: question that that requires an answer.

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Speaker 1: Well, I also think there needs this.

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Speaker 2: We could dissect answer the question. This idea is fruitful

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Speaker 2: because I do love like obviously question.

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Speaker 1: By the way, dick Sect is another Kim Petra's track,

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Speaker 1: dick Sect, and it's sort of about, you know, analysis

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Speaker 1: of texts.

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Speaker 2: Also, this is another dick one, so they wouldn't yours

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Speaker 2: is probably better?

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Speaker 1: No, if you know her work, she's gonna have two

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Speaker 1: dick ones in a row.

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Speaker 3: Do we Diximal System?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Okay, Ideology Spot that's the lead single and actually that

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Speaker 2: has a little musicality. Yeah, that's kind of nice. Oh

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Speaker 2: that's good.

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Speaker 1: So my thing here's where I'm struggling with trend based

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Speaker 1: stuff is like trend forecasting is over, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean, And yet I know, I know, I know,

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Speaker 1: but it's like, but that's that's the bind we find

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Speaker 1: ourselves and you want to engage in the JOI de

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Speaker 1: vive of trend forecasting and the like gay guy play

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Speaker 1: that is like this is coming back. This is so

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Speaker 1: five years ago.

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Speaker 3: You know what you're doing. You're not trend cast forecasting.

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Speaker 3: You're doing the ultimately queer act of reading the vibe.

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Speaker 3: You know, you're catching a vibe. Yeah, and as ques,

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Speaker 3: we are trained to catch a vibe. You're you're reading

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Speaker 3: GQ and you're catching a vibe that only is for you,

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Speaker 3: your message, that's only for you.

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Speaker 2: Is it just me?

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Speaker 1: Or is this gay questioning?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: So I think you're catching a vibe, you know how?

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Speaker 1: Wow? Okay, okay, should we get into our topic?

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Speaker 2: Sure, Josh? What topic did you bring today? And what

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Speaker 2: straight about it? Well? We have the New Yorker.

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Speaker 3: To think, Wow, it's not the New Yorker, though, Has

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Speaker 3: anyone done the New Yorker that would be good?

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Speaker 2: Well? Actually New Yorker tod Well, we did toads, but

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Speaker 2: mostly the New Yorkers.

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Speaker 1: One of our recent guests is a staff writer of

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Speaker 1: The New Yorker.

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Speaker 3: Her topic, did they write the article that I'm going

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Speaker 3: to rep sadly nod too bad?

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Speaker 2: Actually I should know that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Really, there was a few topics I was considering, and

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Speaker 3: then there was an article today about the band fish,

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Speaker 3: and I found myself crying at it. And then I

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Speaker 3: was like, maybe we have to talk about fish.

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Speaker 1: Let's shout out. And then the LGBGQOS creator who wrote.

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Speaker 2: It, Amanda pet Troy, Oh, yes.

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Speaker 1: There are music critic. Yeah, yeah, no, she's she's great.

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Speaker 2: So I think I think we should get into fish.

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Speaker 3: So fish, But I've learned in our prediscussions are off

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Speaker 3: my thoughts now on that this is a This is

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Speaker 3: a really foreign topic for you and a mostly foreign

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Speaker 3: topic for you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, what do you know.

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Speaker 2: Let's start there. I would say there are certain things

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Speaker 2: to make you give an A.

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Speaker 1: No, no, totally. There are some a's are easier than others.

665
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: There's something very comforting to me about knowing that certain

666
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 1: things are like not for me, not for me at

667
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: the base level, but then on top of that, also

668
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: not for me to criticize or judge or respond to.

669
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Speaker 3: Like fish is something I love about the space. It's

670
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 3: sort of hermetically sealed. And yes, and.

671
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Speaker 1: That's exactly it. I actually there was a time in

672
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,719
Speaker 1: my life where I felt musical theater was that, but

673
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 1: then late in life I have actually become involved. I

674
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: think I.

675
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 3: Profound similarities between profound similarities.

676
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Speaker 1: Actually I would say anything involving the Winter Olympic other

677
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: than ice skating, anything abong the Winter Olympics for me

678
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: is that like I don't relate to it. To me,

679
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: the Sumber Olympics or ancient Greece, that's my culture. Winter.

680
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: I've never found out what Bob sledding is or losing

681
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: or anything like that, Like, nor do I think it's

682
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: good or bad, Like it's not for me to judge.

683
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 3: You don't watch cool runnings, don't even know what you're

684
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 3: talking about. What formative text to me, the nineties Disney

685
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 3: Family comedy Jamaican Bob.

686
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: Sled Team Team.

687
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Speaker 2: That's that's what.

688
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 3: Really implanted her because I was gonna say, I agree

689
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 3: with your sentiment, but as soon as you said Bob sledding,

690
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 3: I said that I know intimately that me too.

691
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 2: It's so important running. There was a lot of child

692
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 2: media about Winter Olympics. There was a lot of ice

693
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 2: skating movies. Yeah, you already accepted ice skating.

694
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: I've exempted ice skating, of course, at my point being

695
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 1: that I have, I had.

696
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 3: The record show we've exempted ice skating, and Sam and

697
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 3: Josh have accepted Bob sledding under the cool Runnings.

698
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 1: Claus and by the way, Bob Sledding is another track

699
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 1: off of sledt Up Norway, which is her winter theme

700
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: slud pop oscla. Okay, So the point being, I have

701
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: known Fish is one of those things that you're born knowing.

702
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: You are born knowing that fish exists, and that the

703
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: thing with Fish is that people follow them on tour

704
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 1: and it's like a culture and you're either a part

705
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: of it or you're not. Uh, And that's it.

706
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 2: And I pretty much know the same thing, except I

707
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 2: did listen to a comedy podcast about Fish Scott Ackerman.

708
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't listen to it, but he is a fan.

709
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,479
Speaker 3: He's a fan, and and he's talking to someone else

710
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 3: who's not a fan and sort of explaining it.

711
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 2: Harris, we're doing our cover.

712
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: Of the We're doing our cover.

713
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 2: Harris Wittles is the fan, and he's teaching Scott Ackerman

714
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 2: to like it.

715
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: So you like, listen and what it and uh, was

716
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: it compelling.

717
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 2: To it was compelling?

718
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: I mean I never know a lot.

719
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 2: Actually I never learned to. I never like downloaded an

720
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 2: album and listened to it, but I did hear a

721
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 2: lot about it.

722
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 3: Well, And the truth is I'm going to be a

723
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 3: lot more cue than Wittles. I'm not here to convince

724
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 3: you to like it, do you know what I mean.

725
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 3: I'm here for us to swim, swim, to play around

726
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 3: in this pool.

727
00:31:58,160 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 2: I would I don't.

728
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 3: Quit say I like it anymore. What made me weep

729
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 3: today was just remembering my former self, like remembering the

730
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 3: me who was obsessed with them. And actually I can

731
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 3: still I'll go like every two years and sort of

732
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 3: have a nostalgia trip, but I'm not an active participant

733
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 3: in this space anymore. Definitely, I remember being the only

734
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 3: gay person in the room of twenty thousand, Like it

735
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 3: is just literally a decidedly straight space. Yeah, but upon processing,

736
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 3: there are some like queer elements, but done in a

737
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 3: very straight way, you know what I mean. Like we said,

738
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 3: there's like a drug and a party culture, but also

739
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 3: none of them are grooming or bathing.

740
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: Well, there's also a community based element to it that

741
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 1: is very like queer co op pot luck.

742
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 3: Absolutely that it does feel like it's a space for

743
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 3: a certain type of straight person who is like this

744
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 3: society is not for me to like jump over, while

745
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 3: still never once dabbling in GQ.

746
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: I mean it's a safe space.

747
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 6: It is a space space for straight yes, you know,

748
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 6: boy on girl and girl on boy oriented people to

749
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 6: do a lot of the other broader cultural que that

750
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 6: we do.

751
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 2: You know, I sometimes do feel bad for these types

752
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 2: of straight because they don't have much.

753
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 3: Well, there are a few scenes a lot of their

754
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 3: musical I'm real listening, like there's like like hardcore is

755
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 3: like such a straight scene, but also really weirdly very

756
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 3: gay to Australian rugby. You know, men who become so

757
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 3: masculine they double back around and they're like, oh yeah,

758
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 3: I'll like grab my buddy's cock. But I've I've never

759
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 3: once had sex. I've never once thought a single sexual done.

760
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 3: I've not done an iode of GQ, you know, just

761
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 3: like there's there's places for them, you know.

762
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 2: I just realized we need to reframe the entire gay

763
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 2: straight thing and now it's not gay straight anymore.

764
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: Oh okay, so the entire pre now it's Q and

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Speaker 1: A you're.

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00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 3: Either question or answer. So the new podcast is called

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Speaker 3: a e O LAP called Lap Old McDonald had a

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Speaker 3: farm ah.

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00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: By the way, Q and a parentheses. Queaf and Ass

770
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: is also another track off of Kim Petris lap Pop Cambridge.

771
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: So I, first of all, of course love this, thank you.

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00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 1: It begs the question in defining Q and A, are

773
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: we creating another binary that is even more rigid?

774
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 3: What's the space between Q and A exactly?

775
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 2: Like?

776
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: What is? You know what it is? It's a yes,

777
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: And it's a statement that ends in ellipses like it's

778
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: like the Q ends in a question mark, A ends

779
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: in in a period. It's sort of the liminal space.

780
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 1: Is the amper sand whoa, it's already in it.

781
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 3: The options are Q, A or and that's true and

782
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 3: no one's even seeing And as the third option.

783
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:52,240
Speaker 1: It's right there.

784
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we needed to be expensive because it can't

785
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 3: just beca. We can't make it a you know, A

786
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 3: try on me anymore. Like it's like, you know, we

787
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 3: can't we can't make it three. That's that's the same.

788
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 3: I guess you're on the right path, but we have

789
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 3: to find a way to break apart it as the third.

790
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:13,240
Speaker 1: And isn't the amber stand in assigning it the role

791
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 1: of the third option? Aren't we othering it? Do you

792
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 1: know what I mean?

793
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 3: And it is the continuation literally and is the ellipsis? Yeah,

794
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 3: dot dot dot and what else you know, say more

795
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 3: on that? Yeah, say more on that. But the end

796
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 3: is say more, right, and so the idea of like

797
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 3: always exploring, say more, you're you're seeking, You're seeking.

798
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 2: That's the end.

799
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: Here's a question for you though, absolutely that the queue

800
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: literally seeking more? What is it?

801
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 3: And I guess what the queue is inherently asking for

802
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 3: is the A. You at a certain point stop talking

803
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 3: to get the A. Maybe the end is just you know,

804
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 3: we're just we're we're riding the way.

805
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: It's interesting you think the A is the more limiting

806
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: option the cue. There's actually something about the queue that

807
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: is like demanding an answer.

808
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 2: The que has to stop for the A to exist.

809
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah they Oh my god, the Q.

810
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 2: Has to go. The C is going, Oh okay, I

811
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 2: guess it's me now.

812
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 1: Yeah. The Q is an accusation. Accusation, thank you, THANKQ.

813
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 1: And by the way, you're well dash c U M,

814
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:25,280
Speaker 1: which is another track off of Yeah, slat Pop Cambridge.

815
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 2: That's that's slut Pop Manners Edition. Yeah you're welcome slip

816
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 2: Pop Dear Abby or whatever. Yeah, it's like like that's

817
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 2: that's the track on it called that's my Tossed salad fork.

818
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,240
Speaker 2: That's that me tossed salad fork.

819
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: That's that me tost salad forks featuring Sabrina Carpenter.

820
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 3: Actually, absolutely absolutely, it's an interpolation. Oh the way this

821
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 3: has my lips chopped, that's when you know it's good.

822
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 2: The lips start chat.

823
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 3: That's when you know it's good. Watcher listeners. That was

824
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 3: to the watchers. Okay, so call them listeners and watchers.

825
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 2: We don't do.

826
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 1: Okay, so you love we don't. That was so a

827
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 1: of you. Yes, and he gave me a cue.

828
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 2: I had to give an A like he was literally

829
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 2: being like done to my head and I said.

830
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,439
Speaker 1: No, but this is I'm really it's like you think

831
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: the A is the oppressive one. No, the Q is

832
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 1: what is oppressing the A. It's giving me a declarative statement.

833
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 2: I mean many straight people would argue that is true.

834
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: Yes, it's that is It's it's like the straight peop

835
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: are the ones that are oppressed, done done.

836
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 2: Hits end, which is why they take refuge and fish.

837
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: Why and I not to be so uh standard Q

838
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: and A. I do want to sort of go back

839
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: to basics and I kind of want to give you

840
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: a platform. It talks a little bit about Fish.

841
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do feel like a lot of like being

842
00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 3: a closeted high schooler in rural North Carolina, it was

843
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 3: a big part of developing my personality, not just Fish,

844
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,800
Speaker 3: but just like like like driving to Ashville and seeing

845
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 3: third tier jam bands at the Orange Peel was how

846
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,280
Speaker 3: I was like, I am a person. You know, I exist,

847
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 3: I've been intro and I've been brought on.

848
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

849
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 3: It's like that, really, so I would this is the primer.

850
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 3: Let's try to make it as succinct as possible, and

851
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 3: we're gonna go We're gonna little women reboot it. We're

852
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 3: gonna go out of time. I'm not gonna I'm not

853
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 3: We're gonna start in the middle, as the podcast does.

854
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: Josh, I just want to say if you if you

855
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: start in the beginning, I would tell you to get

856
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 1: out of your care and leave the idea that you

857
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 1: would come to this podcast and do linear storytelling as

858
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: though you are, like.

859
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 3: It's insulting. I even it's insulting to the cubes and

860
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 3: cut this part of the episode because it's insulting. Cut

861
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 3: this part of the episode and put it at the end.

862
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 3: By the way accountability. Keep this part of the episode.

863
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,399
Speaker 3: Cut the part where I said cut it, but keep it.

864
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,399
Speaker 1: And the idea that you're coming in and you're saying,

865
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 1: you know, a normal person would do linear, but I'm

866
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 1: gonna doesn't a waste like you. It's like very Sam

867
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: Smith saying, am I the first gay person to win?

868
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:04,879
Speaker 5: Yeah?

869
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 1: Exactly, Like it's like, not this category to being different. Yeah,

870
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 1: not even other people do what you're doing. It's called conversation. Like,

871
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 1: no one is actually going exactly, so we're so right.

872
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 3: So what what you know about them is sort of

873
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 3: tapping into when the Grateful Dead ended because Jerry died

874
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 3: in ninety five, Fish, who was already like a really

875
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 3: burgeoning popular band, had started to like play arenas, became

876
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,919
Speaker 3: like mega successful because their fans were like, we need

877
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 3: to fuck to them.

878
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:32,439
Speaker 2: But actually they were rather different.

879
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 3: They're very similar in cultures but different in musical construct.

880
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,280
Speaker 3: They both improvise, so they do a lot of improv

881
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 3: which you all know as not to uc B training.

882
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 3: I celebrate and much more freeform. It's actually more of

883
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 3: a jazz style than a UCB. Amy Pohler told you

884
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 3: the rules, so you know what I mean. Like it's

885
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 3: it's very it's very free forming, but it's very yes

886
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:55,399
Speaker 3: andy okay. And so thus there's this culture of people

887
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 3: who are chasing the dragon because not only do you

888
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 3: hear a song more than once, and it can go

889
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 3: very different directions. You know, you're trying to see Sandino

890
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 3: do the perfect chessboard, Herald Honey preach into the damn choir,

891
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 3: you understand. But also they then sort of extrapolate that

892
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 3: on creat a broader culture where like for them, the

893
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 3: shows are very long, like four and a half hours,

894
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 3: so they're like an experience, and if you could see

895
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:19,839
Speaker 3: them every night for a week, they don't repeat a song,

896
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 3: so you just hear every show is literally quite different structurally,

897
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 3: and then also even if it were the same show

898
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 3: played twice, which they never would do, they like embrace

899
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 3: the energy of the space and let it go different places.

900
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 3: But musically, The Grateful Dead was basically like a folk

901
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 3: band who then were like, it's pretty easy to just

902
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,399
Speaker 3: like take LSD and riff on these two churts. They

903
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 3: sort of started as a prog band, and we're writing

904
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 3: these intensely composed, like crazy epic suites that were psychotic,

905
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,359
Speaker 3: and then finding out how to improvise within them, which

906
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 3: is like a weird nashing of dualities so musically, but

907
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 3: also if you told me this is unlistenable, I'd be

908
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 3: like valid. I get there's a high bird hurdle to

909
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 3: get into it, and then when people do, you're down

910
00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 3: bad for it. Yeah, And it's half that part of

911
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 3: straight people's brain, like baseball, where you're like, I need

912
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 3: to memorize every statistic.

913
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,280
Speaker 2: There's a there's an obsession. It's obsessive.

914
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 3: It's obsessive, but and there's a there's a lot of

915
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,439
Speaker 3: in culture stuff, as we know from Yas Queen.

916
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:12,959
Speaker 2: That part.

917
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,800
Speaker 3: There's all of these things that only this culture knows

918
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 3: that are fostered by the band to the audience and

919
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:19,240
Speaker 3: vice versa.

920
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,320
Speaker 2: I like literally do gags with the bands. I have

921
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 2: a cue that demands an a what's their yaes queen?

922
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:26,240
Speaker 2: Oh great point.

923
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 3: And I know actually that one of one of the

924
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 3: people in this room is more actively in fish. So

925
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 3: you can gut check me at any point would you

926
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 3: say it's would you fec driving to a frenzy? Is

927
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 3: that their Yas Queen. That's one of the big ones,

928
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 3: one of their most epic songs has this sort of

929
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 3: undecipherable lyric that's just sounds that people are always starting

930
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 3: trying to figure out what it actually is and then

931
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 3: they've never explained it. But people have a lot of

932
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 3: theories of what they're trying.

933
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 2: To say why, And it's.

934
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 3: Definitely a shorthand for like knowing the band.

935
00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 2: Okay, so okay, So for like a you're like there

936
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 2: for four plus hours, you're like doing drugs and you're like,

937
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 2: I'm crazy. I've never been anywhere like this, like where

938
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 2: part of what feels straight to me about it and

939
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 2: I'm down to be wrong because I'm just shooting in

940
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 2: the dark. Is it sexless? Are people hooking up sexless?

941
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 2: That's interesting? Sexless wouldn't agree sexless?

942
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:22,760
Speaker 5: I don't think fish is that straight?

943
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 1: Oh interesting? Wow?

944
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 3: Well, but I think of the amount of straight people,

945
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 3: which is profound and overwhelming, you know what I mean.

946
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 3: But you're right, there are a lot of overlaps because

947
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 3: it's it circles back this thing.

948
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 1: I mean again, any type of any subculture is exacterently

949
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: to be so basic but apparently queer because it is

950
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:43,959
Speaker 1: like outside the main street.

951
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 3: But you're the most successful indie band of all time,

952
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. It's like they can they

953
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 3: can sell thirteen nights in a row at the Garden

954
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 3: and aren't on a label. You know, nobody listens to

955
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 3: their They've never had a pop they've never had a

956
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 3: radiohead ever.

957
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 2: So which is that is what's.

958
00:42:56,239 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 1: Most intriguing about them to me is like everything else

959
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 1: that is a subcult you can at least point to.

960
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 1: Like the one time they were mainstream.

961
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 3: They had a very brief moment of trying it yeah,

962
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 3: and the record did like okay, but didn't do anything.

963
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 3: And then they turned in the next record. This guy

964
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 3: referenced in The New Yorker, I'm like, here's the next one.

965
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 3: And the in our person was not just like this

966
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 3: is a bad direction.

967
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: He was like, I.

968
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 3: Refuse to even try to do so. And they're like,

969
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 3: all right, well never wine. They didn't even give notes.

970
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 3: They're like, no notes, cut and run.

971
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, here's my theory ready, Okay they are It's

972
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 2: not like a band in the classic sense. It's a

973
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,919
Speaker 2: theater show about a band in a way.

974
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean one of his early pieces, this guy

975
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 3: was writing sort of like this like fantasy musical that

976
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 3: he did dissertation stereophonic fantasy, Yeah, exactly, And so I

977
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 3: think there's always and he's now since written musicals, like

978
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 3: a lot of it is drawing from that space of

979
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,720
Speaker 3: like narrative world building.

980
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 2: You know, characters, there's characters and songs. There's like you know, yeah,

981
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 2: you're not there.

982
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 1: There's a certain state of play.

983
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 3: Profoundly, oh god, profoundly a state of play. There's a

984
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 3: lot of that because again they're like one improv is

985
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 3: like we're playing together. And then they then wanted Also

986
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 3: they have a light Sky who's like known in the

987
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 3: business for being the best at what he does. Because

988
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 3: you see most big arena stadium shows, they're programmed to hell,

989
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 3: you have like ninety thousand pre program cues. He goes

990
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 3: in with I think normally like four and improvises the

991
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 3: rest of it. And so he is working these massive

992
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 3: lights and improvising with him. So then sometimes they're doing

993
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 3: things musically and he responds to it or vice versa.

994
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 3: He'll do lights and they'll go, we should play along

995
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 3: to that. Then they extrapolated that to the audience. There

996
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 3: was a time they literally would throw four big balls

997
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 3: in the audience, each of which represented a band member

998
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 3: and only play when an audience member touched it because

999
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 3: they're like, we want you to play us. And that's

1000
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 3: become a thing where I'm always like, how do we

1001
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:55,439
Speaker 3: make you as active a participant in this as we are?

1002
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 3: That literal sense of play, that's.

1003
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 2: A sense of play. I like that.

1004
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 3: It reminds me of like me at over the eight,

1005
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,280
Speaker 3: like there's something No, it's very over the eight coded

1006
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 3: which and then there's all these facts you would know

1007
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 3: or do you know that? Like in the Y two

1008
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 3: K not to bring it back to twenty sixteen, but

1009
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 3: in the nineteen ninety.

1010
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 2: Nine was right exactly. Yeah.

1011
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 3: Do you know that they did a concert on New

1012
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 3: Year's Eve that was the biggest attended New Year's Eve

1013
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 3: event in the world. There was it in a U.

1014
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:25,760
Speaker 2: In Florida.

1015
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 5: It was a big Cups American I.

1016
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 3: Was gonna say, a seminal like reservation in Florida. And

1017
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 3: they had like hundreds of thousands of people there and

1018
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 3: they played ninety They played all night. They started at

1019
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 3: ten and played until like eight am the next morning

1020
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 3: after the sun came out.

1021
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 2: That that's rave culture.

1022
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: That's rave culture. Do they wear diapers so here's my question.

1023
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 5: The first New Year's they played at the Boston Garden,

1024
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 5: eleven they went backstage and like eleven fifty three they

1025
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 5: came out.

1026
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 2: Divers folks, they're wearing diapers. But that was as a bit.

1027
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 5: It was there, like first ever New Year's game.

1028
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1029
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 3: Now they do gags every New Year's and it's always

1030
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 3: a big surprise because they literally do like a theatrical

1031
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 3: thing as as part of the show. So people come

1032
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 3: every New Year's being like, what's the gag going to be?

1033
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 3: And they actually like make a you know, like an

1034
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 3: opera or whatever.

1035
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well this is really shocking.

1036
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 1: I'm like getting frustrated that all these people are having

1037
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 1: more fun than me.

1038
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 2: Well, that's what I actually do.

1039
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 3: That's something I realized too when I actually the part

1040
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 3: that made me cry was him thinking about his sobriety.

1041
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 3: He was talking about a sobriety really poetically, but when

1042
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 3: did he become sober? The band like busted up because

1043
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 3: he became so drop. I mean many reasons. I think

1044
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 3: the operation got too big and they had like fifty

1045
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 3: people to employ, and then it was like, oh, you

1046
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 3: have to keep doing this, And then the league guy

1047
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 3: was like doing opiates and heroin and stuff, and so

1048
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 3: like that became unsustainable, so they like briefly broke up.

1049
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 3: And when was that two thousand and four?

1050
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 2: To have a fact check?

1051
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:55,839
Speaker 1: This is tough.

1052
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 2: I feel like that you this is tough because you're

1053
00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 2: literally now being no.

1054
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,399
Speaker 3: I'm this is I have have the right as you have.

1055
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 3: It's become an a podcast. I have to have the

1056
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 3: right as you have to. But this is what media needs.

1057
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 3: Fact checkers in the room are we talking about? I mean,

1058
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 3: this is twenty sixteen. If we fa udo fact checked me,

1059
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:14,720
Speaker 3: like we should that cheeto.

1060
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,280
Speaker 1: If you haven't, if you haven't heard of Cambridge Analytica,

1061
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: you're only getting half the story. Cambridge Anaclitica.

1062
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's.

1063
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: Batter the best one out of out of slaptop Cambridge

1064
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:29,280
Speaker 1: literally Cambridge Anaclitica. Wow, oh my god.

1065
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 3: Been like two years after the breakup, he got arrested

1066
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 3: with like heroin and pills in his car, and apparently

1067
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 3: it was just like everybody says, like the the most

1068
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 3: kind and gracious person to ever be arrested, because I

1069
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 3: think he was like finally, thank you, thank you.

1070
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then he tells the story.

1071
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 3: About then he was on like he managed to avoid

1072
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 3: jail by doing basically house arrest and like got an

1073
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 3: apartment next to the jail and couldn't.

1074
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: Have a car.

1075
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 2: Got it.

1076
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 3: That was apparently they like worked it out with a

1077
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,320
Speaker 3: judge where he was like, I'm gonna do two years

1078
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 3: of community service and I'm gonna live by the jail

1079
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 3: and and he said it was like the most like beautiful,

1080
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 3: humbling experience. Because he's still Vermont, he's a rock star.

1081
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 3: People are coming up, like Trey from Fish. He's like,

1082
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 3: I'm scrubbing toilets and being like thank you. And then

1083
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 3: he said his kids would come and visit him on

1084
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 3: the weekends and they look back and say it was

1085
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 3: the best part of their lives because before that he

1086
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 3: was on tour and doing drugs.

1087
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 2: And he's like this part where I cry to that

1088
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 2: that's prettyment.

1089
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: I mean, that's beautiful.

1090
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 3: But then it got me just thinking about the time

1091
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 3: of my life when I cared about this stuff and

1092
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 3: I don't anymore. And that's you know, that's what changed. Oh,

1093
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 3: that's a great question.

1094
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:28,399
Speaker 2: He became gay.

1095
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,359
Speaker 3: That's I became gay. Honestly, I became gay. And I said, wait,

1096
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,800
Speaker 3: there's a different version of this, and it's Blinn.

1097
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:34,399
Speaker 1: And I can have sex there.

1098
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can get your dick sucked if you do

1099
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 2: this in Berlin. It's literally all the same things.

1100
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is kind of a bummer.

1101
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 2: I've been thinking about what gay takes from me, what

1102
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 2: she takes away from me. Where now I am just like, well,

1103
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:50,479
Speaker 2: I could be doing this, like I could be getting

1104
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 2: into this niche subculture, or I could go somewhere and

1105
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 2: probably have sex. Oh well, these are connected.

1106
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 3: The part I was going to say is I do now,

1107
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 3: looking back, love and appreciate it even more now that

1108
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 3: I think they're even lamer. That it's like an uncool

1109
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 3: space because so much of queer spaces are about the

1110
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 3: currency of cool.

1111
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 2: It's an arms race.

1112
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 3: It's an arms race for cool, and that theirs is

1113
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 3: basically everybody agreeing, like so you're lame, like I'm lame,

1114
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 3: and it's having so much that it's like, it's so

1115
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 3: that that is admirable.

1116
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:21,760
Speaker 2: We should bring that to our Q spaces.

1117
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: We should bring up some Q spaces.

1118
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 2: But then, but we you and I try to do

1119
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 2: this when we celebrate what we call Philly.

1120
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.

1121
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 2: Can we explain this theory to George, not real Philly.

1122
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:37,720
Speaker 2: This is I don't know, just to warn there's.

1123
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 3: About to be Coastal elite, but in a way that

1124
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 3: doubles back and becomes praise. So this this Australian rugby, right,

1125
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 3: So this is so straight it's gay trust us.

1126
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 1: Coastal Elik is one of the tracks that.

1127
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 3: Like Coastal a lick my cock, my cock.

1128
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 2: Kat Constall that's featuring kt Tonguel. Okay, so Philly is

1129
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 2: a real city. That's what this theory is based off. Yeah,

1130
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 2: and Philly.

1131
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,879
Speaker 1: Rules, Philly places to go.

1132
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,760
Speaker 2: And I specifically love the gay bars in Philly because

1133
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 2: they have this like they remind me of like when

1134
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 2: I was twenty one and going to like sort of

1135
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 2: a lame gay bar in Chicago and like dancing and

1136
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 2: let me just go in music with like my girlfriend.

1137
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 3: Can I introduce something that we can all use because

1138
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 3: I love to use this conversation lame, open prent sees, complimentary,

1139
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 3: close prent sies. We're not saying it pejorative, lame Okay, good,

1140
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 3: this is lame as in good.

1141
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 2: And so now that I'm so, when you go to

1142
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 2: Philly you kind of experience these types of bars and

1143
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:47,760
Speaker 2: they're too big for some reason. The liminal space, you're unwatched,

1144
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 2: you're not in the arms race. It's you're not the

1145
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 2: arm face at all, and you're finally free.

1146
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 3: Not a single there, No one could care.

1147
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 2: They're putting Bruno mars on. Literally, that's the liminal space,

1148
00:50:58,160 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 2: and you're.

1149
00:50:58,520 --> 00:50:59,399
Speaker 1: Dancing to it.

1150
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 2: And so now whenever we're in a space that is uncool,

1151
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 2: we both bond on really enjoying that and we say, yes,

1152
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 2: it's Philly there specifically, where the can we dox them?

1153
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 3: I feel like we should dox them, but this is

1154
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 3: again doxing complimentary. Sometimes we go to Metro, which is

1155
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 3: my favorite gay bar, but because there's some newer girls

1156
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 3: in the neighborhood who the quote unquote cool people want

1157
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 3: to go to, they're not going to Metro anymore, and

1158
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 3: it's Philly.

1159
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 2: It's phil I love Metro is now Metro. We go

1160
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 2: there and I talk to it.

1161
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 1: I'm one of the girls who is no longer going

1162
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 1: to Metro and haven't been.

1163
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 2: Actually docks them. What the actually an animal? Because of

1164
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:39,240
Speaker 2: cool the cool list.

1165
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 1: But it's not even just that. It's like a return

1166
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: to like Christopher Street for me to like it's.

1167
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 2: A real I would actually jus number one.

1168
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: Welles is obvious number one, and that's not even that

1169
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,919
Speaker 1: exists outside of the cool uncool spectrum. That's that I'm

1170
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,760
Speaker 1: even going to, Like Julius, I just went to the Monster.

1171
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:58,240
Speaker 1: I'm going to pieces.

1172
00:51:58,280 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 3: Here's the monster and going to pieces.

1173
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:01,280
Speaker 1: I've been to pieces recently.

1174
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 2: What queens are you seeing?

1175
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 1: I don't remember what her name was, but she was okay.

1176
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 3: It's a great trag show. Say more on that. I

1177
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:11,959
Speaker 3: don't remember her name, but she was okay.

1178
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 2: That is such a.

1179
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,760
Speaker 1: Great That wasn't the ax, but there was something about

1180
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 1: because there is this when it comes to uncool gay spaces,

1181
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 1: if it's long enough ago, then you are basically like

1182
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 1: wearing an act up T shirt and pretending it's the eighties.

1183
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 2: Metro is that part, you know, It's like, but I

1184
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 2: think that.

1185
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:38,720
Speaker 1: Is that part. It's like, it's is yes, Queen Kitchen

1186
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 1: is yes.

1187
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 2: Queen Metro is that part?

1188
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 1: And that and that's the final frontier, because when are

1189
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 1: the cool gay guys gonna suck at the fuck up

1190
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 1: and go to Hell's Kitchen?

1191
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 2: Well, when it doesn't take a fucking hour to get there,

1192
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 2: That's why let's start with Christopher Street, and let's start

1193
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 2: with Josh Sharp to Josh dot Com blocks from christ

1194
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 2: I'm loving how this start there with what we get

1195
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:04,839
Speaker 2: these gay guys to do, bring back Duplex, bringing back

1196
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 2: Duplex that do you know how much of the scene

1197
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:07,879
Speaker 2: that you love?

1198
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 3: The podcast Cabal is born of Duplex In anyways.

1199
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: First time I ever did a half hour of comedy

1200
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:15,800
Speaker 1: was at the Duplex.

1201
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1202
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 1: Le split a bill with my friend Julia Claire. We

1203
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 1: did half hours together and the show is called George

1204
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 1: Severis and Julia Claire Colon. That's a stretch that love

1205
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: love it, love love it.

1206
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,319
Speaker 3: It birthed Aaron and I mean UCB did. But when

1207
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,280
Speaker 3: we were like what if we like broke out at UCB,

1208
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 3: we hosted our variety show at the Duplex. Cole was

1209
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 3: running there, like the hit show at the Duplex for

1210
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 3: a long time.

1211
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:37,439
Speaker 1: Was cool.

1212
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 2: Col was like paying the bills at Duplex.

1213
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 1: So, by the way, if you want to learn more

1214
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 1: about that, Jeffrey Self's book of Essays, Jeffrey describes the

1215
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 1: Duplex era and working with Oh I would love first essay.

1216
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 1: You don't even have to read the whole book.

1217
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 2: So Christopher Street. Yeah, but this is to the Philly,

1218
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 2: this is the.

1219
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 1: Philly of it all.

1220
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 2: Yes, and yeah, so Philly the non cool gay guys

1221
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 2: is a movement that we actually do believe in, and

1222
00:53:58,840 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 2: so we're trying to push.

1223
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:02,280
Speaker 3: That and not to be binary about it because actually,

1224
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 3: now I'm gonna sort of do the oppositehere. I'm gonna say,

1225
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 3: like the in between space is what I don't like.

1226
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,280
Speaker 3: But in these kind of things, there are certain places

1227
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 3: that are actually cool. You're at a certain like warehousey Rave,

1228
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 3: and you're like, you've nailed the cool assignment. Yeah, Then

1229
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 3: there are the Philly spaces where it's like you are

1230
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:17,919
Speaker 3: owning your uncoolness.

1231
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 2: It's these places that think.

1232
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 3: They're cool and they're not that are living in the

1233
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 3: what is the you know this thing in relief when

1234
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:26,359
Speaker 3: it comes to gay space, I mean, is it now

1235
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 3: the amper sand is bad where I'm like you need

1236
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:29,720
Speaker 3: to just be it.

1237
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:30,479
Speaker 1: Or not it?

1238
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 2: Can you describe what a place that thinks it's cool

1239
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 2: but isn't feels.

1240
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 1: Is that Hell's Kitchen? Then is Hell's Kitchen the medium?

1241
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: And that's why it's we don't know what to do

1242
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 1: with it because there is. It is Hell's Kitchen is

1243
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:47,840
Speaker 1: attempting to be the gay spot, like that is its goal.

1244
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 3: It's there's a tackiness but without any camp. Yeah right, yeah,

1245
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 3: And there's there's sort of a and I'm not against basicness,

1246
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 3: like as we know, basicness can be there's beauty and simplicity.

1247
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 3: But there's a time that has no queue. So I

1248
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 3: should say there's a type that has no cue. There's

1249
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 3: the type of basic where it's like, oh, you haven't

1250
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,359
Speaker 3: considered anything outside of the lame and that that you've

1251
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 3: like considered it all and gone. What if I embraced

1252
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,720
Speaker 3: the basic? You are only there no cue?

1253
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 1: And in this narrative, is Philly only there no cue?

1254
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:21,240
Speaker 1: Or his Philly considered? Wow?

1255
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 3: Don't you feel like Philly has sort of considered I

1256
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:25,399
Speaker 3: think Philly has considered Yeah.

1257
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 2: I think Philly has seen what cool could be and

1258
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 2: said I'm good.

1259
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1260
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 3: I think they ride with my friends.

1261
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:31,479
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1262
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like I don't need to do all that.

1263
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 3: There's a maturity to Philly. There's a maturity to Philly. Well,

1264
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 3: birth our Nation. You see that big old cracked.

1265
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,479
Speaker 2: Bell, you see that belt Nation came out of that hole,

1266
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 2: you know, there's a maturity.

1267
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: You know what it is? Big cracked bell, it's my bell,

1268
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 1: It's Lana del Rey.

1269
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,320
Speaker 2: American Standards, competrious Philly.

1270
00:55:53,520 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 3: Cracked my bell, crack my bell, open bitch, slapt pop Philly, Philly.

1271
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 2: Now that I want to, Oh my god, that's amazing.

1272
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,800
Speaker 1: Do you think Philly is Lana del Rey dressing normal

1273
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: but not as an ironic hipstery thing. It's like she

1274
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: has decided she has seen what cool is. She's been

1275
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 1: dressed by all the big designers, and now she is

1276
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 1: shopping at Target.

1277
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 2: I know, don't Okay, I think Philly is almost Kelly Clarkson.

1278
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 1: Kelly Clarkson, Yes.

1279
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 3: Here's the thing that I think is wrong, but I'm

1280
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 3: gonna say it. Or is Philly Tate McCrae. And then

1281
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:42,399
Speaker 3: you go, wait, you know Arca, We're like I knew,

1282
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 3: I like something about totally oh you're friends with ARCA.

1283
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 1: But I think that is more.

1284
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:48,840
Speaker 3: I didn't you didn't give friends with Arca to me?

1285
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 3: Don't you think that that is that's the maturity.

1286
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 1: No, that is the maturity. Interesting? Okay, yeah, because Kelly

1287
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:56,879
Speaker 1: Clarkson is not totally right either. I'm trying to think

1288
00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 1: what is right Natalie and Ruglia.

1289
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 2: Katie.

1290
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 1: I mean, is it Adele? Oh?

1291
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 2: Maybe Philly is Adele, but that's because I don't identify

1292
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 2: with Adele.

1293
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 1: That is tough. I do identify with phil what's keeping you?

1294
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1295
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 1: What is keeping?

1296
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 2: I'm just like, actually, yeah, I mean she's fine, like

1297
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 2: it's it doesn't inspire hatred or love.

1298
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:22,439
Speaker 1: But you don't.

1299
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:26,439
Speaker 3: What about Bruno Mars because I feel like I ride

1300
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 3: for Bruno.

1301
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 2: You know I used to.

1302
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 3: It's a hot take, say that you remember the Sarah

1303
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 3: this is the Duplex Sarah. I say he was better

1304
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 3: for than Lady Gaga. Would be like song for a song,

1305
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 3: name me a Gaga song, and there's a better Bruno song.

1306
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 2: I don't say by that. It was just fun.

1307
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've sort of agreed with it, but I do

1308
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 3: ride for Bruno.

1309
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 2: No, I think I think Bruno is is properly Philly.

1310
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 1: I think that is a good. Yeah, I think Bruno

1311
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 1: is Philly. What is pink?

1312
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 3: Oh it's midwestern about Yeah, there's something midwest.

1313
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna go ahead and play pink after

1314
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 1: the Bruno in Philly. Well, they're gonna play it. But

1315
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 1: she doesn't. She doesn't symbolize the whole city is Philly.

1316
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 1: Roupol's drag race.

1317
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 2: Mmm win twenty sixteen.

1318
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, Peak, Rupols drag Race twenty sixteen.

1319
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 2: It's season eight.

1320
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 1: It's bringing out the signs that say vote dot.

1321
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 2: Or yeah, it's it's Bob winning after Violet vote dot org.

1322
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. You know, it to me

1323
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 2: is an essential. Okay, here's another. Okay, I'm tying it

1324
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 2: to Fish ready, good okay, Philly.

1325
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 3: And if you read it with joshup Toada too, if

1326
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 3: you pull that trifecta, that's gonna be funny.

1327
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 2: Well, this is this is on you potentially something that

1328
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 2: is always a the whole show has been a.

1329
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 1: Sign of Philly.

1330
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 2: Like a true, tried and true sign of Philly is

1331
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 2: walking around with shot glasses that are in like neon.

1332
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. When I see that, I say, I am

1333
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 2: safely mark my location as in Philly, marked as say,

1334
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 2: from Hartly test tubes. And I actually think Fish is

1335
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 2: also they don't do shot classes and test tubes, but

1336
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 2: the culture is similar.

1337
00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 3: Absolutely, absolutely they do nitrous. They do They're sucking out

1338
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 3: of the balloons from the dentist. You know what I mean,

1339
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:05,959
Speaker 3: that's the that's the shot glass of the fish scene.

1340
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 1: It's sucking Byllons is another track on Slap Pop Philly.

1341
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 2: What about Philly?

1342
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 1: Is you think? What about Philly's balloons? Do we think?

1343
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 1: And now we're back to Fiona Apple. Now that's nonlinear

1344
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 1: question asking that's you are amper standing Boots with that

1345
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 1: one part that.

1346
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 2: Well, I just want to know what, like, are you

1347
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 2: going to try to incorporate something to symbolize to your

1348
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 2: the attendees of your show that you're there in Philly. Well,

1349
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 2: the Christimer Street of it all.

1350
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 3: It's so easy to do a two show night where

1351
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 3: you're seeing Josharp Toda and then Hollybox Brains at Pieces,

1352
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like, you could see an

1353
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 3: incredible queen or George would call them okay, and I'm

1354
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 3: not that's not a sub tweet at the queen I

1355
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 3: named earlier.

1356
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 1: I'm just you know, subtit by the way.

1357
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, sub my tit did.

1358
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 3: You could see an incredible Pieces drag queen post show

1359
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 3: any night of the week. You could go to Duplex

1360
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 3: and sing Roses Turn any night, both before and after

1361
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 3: my show. Yeah, so it is sort of right in

1362
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 3: the peak neighborhood for the monster at all.

1363
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 2: You know why Fish doesn't connect with gay people? Like,

1364
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 2: how do I say this? There's no like I know

1365
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 2: there's a lead guy, but like he's not a diva.

1366
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 3: No, And it's a collective even though he's profoundly the

1367
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 3: lead guy.

1368
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 2: It's with a lot of like we I have built.

1369
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 3: This machine and we're all evil parts.

1370
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 2: Yes I'm the architect, but you know gay people need

1371
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 2: like a hierarchy.

1372
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 1: Well, yes, there is something almost anti anti branding and

1373
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 1: anti capitalist about the whole machine because, for example, with

1374
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 1: The Grateful Dead, you might not know anything, but you

1375
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 1: know the Teddy Bears, the Rainbow the Rainbow Bears dancing around, Like.

1376
01:00:58,160 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 3: Do you even know the Fish logo?

1377
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 1: Do I?

1378
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 2: That? Is? This is so cool? I literally don't. What

1379
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 2: is this? Is that?

1380
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 3: Maybe this speaks to it because something else they talk

1381
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 3: about the article is at the time they were getting big,

1382
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 3: they just talked about how much when like most bands,

1383
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 3: when they finally have like access, they would like make

1384
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 3: use of things. But they're like, oh, finally we have

1385
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 3: the freedom to do say not that all the stuff we.

1386
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 5: Want to do.

1387
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, for thirty years they've demanded that every venue they're in,

1388
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 3: any forward facing ads to the audience are covered, so

1389
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 3: people go early and cover with curtains any like billboards

1390
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 3: or advertisements in the space.

1391
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 2: They're like, you should not come in and see like

1392
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 2: a coke ad.

1393
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's cool, and every venue does it because they

1394
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 3: sell a billion tickets. So there's things like that where

1395
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 3: they're like, oh, you at a time when you be like,

1396
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 3: what's my brand deal, they're like, how do we eliminate

1397
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 3: brands from this magical space?

1398
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 2: Slay No, that's cool. Slay kind recurs too, don't but

1399
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 2: that is happen the ones Lady Gaga could never.

1400
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 1: Well, first of all, Aeo lab or I want to

1401
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 1: go back to the logos for Mattress. But I do

1402
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 1: think that's a big part of why it's so siphoned

1403
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 1: off from the rest of culture is because because there's

1404
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:03,919
Speaker 1: like no advertising a bit, it's literally like by word

1405
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 1: of mouth, and if you know, you know.

1406
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 3: And even then you need a guide and even you know,

1407
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 3: like even if your friends like listen to Fish, they'd

1408
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:12,439
Speaker 3: have to be like, but let me make the playlist, yes,

1409
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 3: or else you will go you will not get it it.

1410
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 1: Community building Where else are we seeing that.

1411
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, other jam bands also, you know, weirdly, they've

1412
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 3: sort of invented festival culture, right, Like that is massive,

1413
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 3: the Coachella of at all. I mean also, you know

1414
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 3: Jane's Addiction. Did nobody wants to have that conversation? The

1415
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 3: originator of Lallapalooza.

1416
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 2: I didn't know this.

1417
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 3: It was originally a festival that Jane's Addiction started in

1418
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 3: the nineties and then became Lolla Ploza. But at the

1419
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 3: same time, Fish was showing throwing festivals that are only

1420
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 3: Fish and a one hundred thousand people come. There's no

1421
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 3: other bands but Fish, but they do like build a

1422
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 3: village and there's like art and installations and weirdo shit happening.

1423
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 2: When bonn a.

1424
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 3: Rou started, which sort of started the modern resurgence of

1425
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:56,959
Speaker 3: the last twenty years of festivals, because they knew because

1426
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:58,920
Speaker 3: it was more of a jam band festival at its inception,

1427
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 3: they went to Fish just people were like, how do

1428
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:03,480
Speaker 3: you do a festival? And so Fish top Bonnaroo and

1429
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 3: then now we have Coachella.

1430
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 2: Wow, you know what I mean.

1431
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, So there's so many weird things where it's like

1432
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:11,959
Speaker 3: it's crazy that Fish is that girl until Billy Joel

1433
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:13,920
Speaker 3: did the Billy Joel. They were the band that had

1434
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 3: most played the Garden.

1435
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 1: That's crazy.

1436
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 3: They played there like one hundred times and sold out

1437
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 3: every show. Whoa, I'm getting back checked again and I'm

1438
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 3: appreciate about it.

1439
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 1: And if only we could do that to the Cheeto

1440
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:27,280
Speaker 1: and chief, Oh my god, if only you. But he

1441
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 1: won't come on the podcast. He's afraid. Have you tried, Yes,

1442
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 1: yes tried. Could you imagine we haven't?

1443
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 2: What topic do you think he'd do? I think what

1444
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 2: if he did cheetahs?

1445
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 1: And it's like charming because he's making fun of himself

1446
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 1: and he's like really self aware. It's like, I mean,

1447
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 1: what what topic would he do if he was really

1448
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 1: self aware? I guess he could do cheetos. He could

1449
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 1: do like apprenticing business business.

1450
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 2: I think it would be funny if like one day

1451
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 2: he got bonked on the head and like woke up

1452
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 2: and period, just as a physical gag.

1453
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, just I know there's more, but just period. Well,

1454
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 3: if he gets bonked on the head, I'm on that part.

1455
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 1: I'm that part that part. No, he gets bunked on

1456
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 1: the head and wakes up, He's like, I want to

1457
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:18,600
Speaker 1: do a run of my show.

1458
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 2: If you got bonked on the head and then was like,

1459
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 2: oh my god, isn't it weird that I'm doing this,

1460
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 2: Like isn't it crazy? Like that would be really funny.

1461
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 2: Little cartoon birds flying around, dizzy eyes.

1462
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 1: Holds a press conference. Never mind, it's so good.

1463
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 2: That's in your new hour, right, Yeah, here's mine.

1464
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 1: Never mind, Wow, that's really good. Here's and that's the

1465
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 1: title track from Fiona Apple's new record. She recorded it

1466
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 1: all at home with her dogs. That's the sound the

1467
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 1: dog with the rest.

1468
01:04:57,080 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 3: The dog she had at that time, rest in power.

1469
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 2: Power, that time, that time, at that time, that time.

1470
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:07,520
Speaker 2: This is Trump Pop. That's that's good. Instead up that part.

1471
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 1: Maybe if Trump got bunked on the head, he would

1472
01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 1: release Trump Pop Miami.

1473
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:14,919
Speaker 2: This is Trump Pop. That's good. That's really good.

1474
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 1: Get your bunks out January sex.

1475
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 2: Oh, that's good.

1476
01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 1: Terror in my anus.

1477
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 2: Ifs rolls off the.

1478
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 1: Tongue, rolls off the tongue, that's another track. There we go,

1479
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 1: rolls Royce off the tongue. That's a Kim Petra's track.

1480
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 1: Lick my cheetoes.

1481
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:44,680
Speaker 2: Way to be brought in. I can't wait for the

1482
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 2: intro to be over guests, Please welcome to the podcast.

1483
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 2: Philly's favorite comedian, Josh Sharp. Yes, I'll be playing the

1484
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 2: Philly Theater.

1485
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:55,040
Speaker 1: Oh, I love that.

1486
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 3: Josh to the Big Philly Theater right downtown. You can't

1487
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 3: miss it. It's just under uptown and it's gonna be amazing.

1488
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 1: Have you ever been to Denver? Actually you can't ask

1489
01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 1: some of that, George. I'm sorry to be so cute,

1490
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 1: but I'm going to Denver. Uh, there's no way around

1491
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 1: it because I'm seeing ryle O Kylie a Red Rocks.

1492
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:16,960
Speaker 3: And when you posted about that, I thought you were kidding.

1493
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:21,440
Speaker 1: No serious, that rules, And so we've been looking for

1494
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:22,440
Speaker 1: where to stay and whatever.

1495
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 2: And they're doing like the twentieth anniversary of black Light

1496
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 2: Tour or whatever.

1497
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 1: I don't remember if it's it might be, But you

1498
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 1: guys need to get into Riyla Kylie Moore.

1499
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:32,480
Speaker 2: That's like it's such a like like a.

1500
01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

1501
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:36,440
Speaker 1: Ryle Kylie is one of I actually recently had this

1502
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 1: experience with Gossip that Todo's band, where these are things

1503
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 1: I think everyone knows and everyone stands and then you

1504
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:45,960
Speaker 1: realize no one I saw Gossip. I posted it literally

1505
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 1: got one reply, I.

1506
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 3: Feel the same about the Knife, another band from that era.

1507
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 1: Knife.

1508
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 2: But so many gay guests have.

1509
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 1: Know so many games I don't know.

1510
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 2: They are like girls at the raves and yeah, it's

1511
01:06:57,120 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 2: all good. It's all good anyway, fever Ray. That's yeah, yeah,

1512
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:03,040
Speaker 2: let's right, that part.

1513
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 1: I actually don't know. I'm coming clean.

1514
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 3: You should like Jenny Lewis at all.

1515
01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 1: No, it's band. Oh, it's really good because.

1516
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 3: There are there is a class of gay guys not you.

1517
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:15,000
Speaker 3: We now know who know Jenny Lewis and don't know, right, Kylie.

1518
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 1: It's it's like gay guys that know Caroline Polo Chepe

1519
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 1: but don't know Chairlift.

1520
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:21,160
Speaker 2: Thank you. And that is a that is a part.

1521
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 2: That part that is such a that part. Yeah, what

1522
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 2: you just said is such. This is why we need

1523
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 2: it back because that is the response to that. My

1524
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 2: whole body screams that part. You know what I mean. Damn,

1525
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 2: that's so that's so Walt Whitman of you so true.

1526
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:38,200
Speaker 2: My whole body screaming that part as I take loads

1527
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:39,560
Speaker 2: in the Brooklyn Navy Yard.

1528
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:44,240
Speaker 1: War Titman is another track off of Slup Pop Cambridge.

1529
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:47,080
Speaker 2: Back to Slip Pop Cambridge.

1530
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:50,000
Speaker 1: Slow Pop walden pond. Actually it is coming out soon.

1531
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 2: Damn.

1532
01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 3: How many of the grasses did I get out of

1533
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:53,440
Speaker 3: a thousand?

1534
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:53,760
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1535
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 3: If we said it, we got we went on. So

1536
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:57,160
Speaker 3: we are sort of still in that segment.

1537
01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 2: Oh it's still non linear.

1538
01:07:58,440 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 3: Well we're liminal.

1539
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 2: We're still in that secon.

1540
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, we can't. But I think because we're so liminal,

1541
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:04,960
Speaker 1: we can't give you a number. I think that's your score?

1542
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 1: Was bear emoji?

1543
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:10,080
Speaker 2: Understood? Yeah, score was bar emoji.

1544
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 3: That's well, damn, that's what that is.

1545
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 1: That's either good or bad.

1546
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 2: That's either good or bad.

1547
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 1: What if you named your child either oh?

1548
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:20,479
Speaker 2: Either?

1549
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 3: Oh that's good to hear. You have to hear the

1550
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:23,800
Speaker 3: mother yelling.

1551
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 1: It out either and it also it is Actually you're

1552
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:27,519
Speaker 1: gonna have a mother.

1553
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 2: I am the mother. I am the mother. Come through, RuPaul,

1554
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:40,280
Speaker 2: come through, RuPaul. Vote, I am the mother. Clack clack

1555
01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:47,839
Speaker 2: clack clack clay clack vote. That's why try vote. But seriously,

1556
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:48,479
Speaker 2: you guys, get out there.

1557
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 1: But seriously, you guys, please vote.

1558
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 2: Should we do our final segment? How well I've lost

1559
01:08:56,520 --> 01:09:00,320
Speaker 2: track of Yeah, lemon and so nonlinear? You tell me

1560
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 2: where we are?

1561
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:04,000
Speaker 3: Where are we at time was yeah, we should do

1562
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:06,959
Speaker 3: our final any lingering fish notions.

1563
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:07,759
Speaker 2: I mean we're really.

1564
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 1: Asking us just things that's very cute things.

1565
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is cute.

1566
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 3: I just want to know if there's anything that you

1567
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:15,599
Speaker 3: needed addressed that didn't know I know, and I do

1568
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:18,800
Speaker 3: feel like it was a touchstone for us. Yeah, you know,

1569
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 3: it didn't need to be the bedrock.

1570
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:21,040
Speaker 2: It was a touchstone.

1571
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 3: It was a touch if we're just making different sort

1572
01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:24,719
Speaker 3: of geological rock.

1573
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:25,799
Speaker 1: Base touch my stone.

1574
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 2: By the way, it was like a limestone layer, you know,

1575
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 2: goodstone bank.

1576
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:35,759
Speaker 1: There we go, Oh my god, an the Limestone Festival

1577
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:36,719
Speaker 1: in Bloomings, Indiana.

1578
01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:40,440
Speaker 2: You're literally just like, I sort of like fish.

1579
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:44,000
Speaker 1: Can I ask something basic? What is the backstory of

1580
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 1: the name fish spelled with a pH?

1581
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:48,640
Speaker 2: Great question? I don't know, do you know that I do, of.

1582
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:52,679
Speaker 5: Course a couple of different stories. But when they first started,

1583
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 5: so they started eighty three, and when they first started.

1584
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:57,880
Speaker 3: At Goddard College, at Goddard.

1585
01:09:57,479 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 5: College, which had thirty three people in.

1586
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:03,520
Speaker 1: Every year when they graduated, whoa.

1587
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 5: They wanted to be. That's why they wanted to be,

1588
01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 5: and that's why it's on the age people. Everyone was

1589
01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 5: just like, what.

1590
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:14,880
Speaker 2: Oh, and then it became Fish. This is news to me.

1591
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:17,400
Speaker 1: I'm learning they wanted to be Fish do anything that's

1592
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 1: ahead of their time, because I'm thinking of that very

1593
01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:21,240
Speaker 1: pitchworky band that is three exclamation points.

1594
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yah chi chick Chicha's it.

1595
01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:26,640
Speaker 1: That's so Fish.

1596
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 2: I love to learn that because even though I'm so

1597
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:31,519
Speaker 2: tapped out of this scene, because it was like the

1598
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:34,720
Speaker 2: thing I obsessed over from years like seventeen to twenty two.

1599
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:36,439
Speaker 2: Like I think even.

1600
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:40,840
Speaker 3: Now, if you played a live Fish recording, I would

1601
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 3: know the song and I probably could tell you the

1602
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:44,320
Speaker 3: year and maybe month of it, you know what I mean. Like,

1603
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 3: it's still a part of my brain that knows every

1604
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:48,479
Speaker 3: single thing about this band. So to learn something new,

1605
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:49,719
Speaker 3: that's huge.

1606
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:50,799
Speaker 2: That's that's huge.

1607
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 3: For me in all of my as someone literate in

1608
01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:55,599
Speaker 3: the lore, I didn't know that part, that part.

1609
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:57,360
Speaker 2: That part, that part, well, that's just like how we

1610
01:10:57,400 --> 01:11:00,120
Speaker 2: want to be called Aeo Lab and people kept saying

1611
01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:01,480
Speaker 2: Stradio Radio.

1612
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:04,479
Speaker 3: Lab, and so you just became Stradio Lab.

1613
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:04,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1614
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 1: The first time we ever sold out one of many.

1615
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:10,439
Speaker 2: One of many, just slippery slope a many. But seriously, guys,

1616
01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 2: how down the barrel.

1617
01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:14,719
Speaker 3: This episode has been you know, because you guys sold out. Now, yeah,

1618
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 3: you resisted that urge to make this one punk. And

1619
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 3: it's just so clear and cogent and literate. First time

1620
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 3: listeners would know every single word.

1621
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:22,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, this is the blueprint.

1622
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:24,799
Speaker 2: This is the blue It's gonna be the FYC episode.

1623
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:27,040
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, this is well, you know, everything you touch

1624
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:32,479
Speaker 2: becomes a four year consideration. That part, okay, we should

1625
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 2: do our final segment. That part, Josh. Our final segment

1626
01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 2: is called Shoutouts, and then this segment would be amash

1627
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:44,840
Speaker 2: to the grand straight tradition of the radio shout out,

1628
01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:48,080
Speaker 2: shouting out to anything that we are enjoying, people, places, things, ideas,

1629
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 2: I actually seasand one you're in Times Square shouting out

1630
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:52,200
Speaker 2: to your squad back home.

1631
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:55,160
Speaker 3: What's made about that is I'm literally in Times Square

1632
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:56,400
Speaker 3: right now. But it's twenty sixteen.

1633
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:57,800
Speaker 1: That's the part, Yes, it is.

1634
01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:00,160
Speaker 3: What part that's the same. It is Time Square, So

1635
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:01,920
Speaker 3: that's the same. We're coming to your life from Times.

1636
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:03,720
Speaker 1: We are coming to your life from we are no

1637
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:06,320
Speaker 1: cap no cap is that coming back?

1638
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:08,559
Speaker 3: No, it's too fresh, but it couldn't like three. But

1639
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:11,120
Speaker 3: I'm more warm on bet being something by the way,

1640
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:11,800
Speaker 3: I'm doing for you.

1641
01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:13,600
Speaker 1: By the way, no fap is another track of.

1642
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:23,439
Speaker 2: I'm bitch. People will get that. That's bet. When you

1643
01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:25,439
Speaker 2: said profoundly earlier, I was trying to think of a

1644
01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 2: pun and the only thing I got was pro pound me?

1645
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:32,400
Speaker 1: Because the hell is wrong with you? Because ideas like

1646
01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 1: that on the table.

1647
01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 2: Well, because I was like, if I say pro pound me,

1648
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:37,240
Speaker 2: no one's going to be like, that's profoundly.

1649
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:38,639
Speaker 3: We would know that.

1650
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:41,000
Speaker 1: Oh I see what you're saying. Yeah. But also there's

1651
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:44,840
Speaker 1: so many lyrical directions there, like I am pro pound me,

1652
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:46,800
Speaker 1: I am pro the idea of you pounding me.

1653
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:48,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm definitely proper and.

1654
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 1: Being pounded pro pound pro. I'm a pro pound me?

1655
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:55,799
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1656
01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:59,479
Speaker 1: Wow? Should we do okay, how do we do it?

1657
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 1: I'm like George, I don't have one. Oh yeah I

1658
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:05,400
Speaker 1: don't either, Josh, I could do one. Oh you want

1659
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:05,920
Speaker 1: to go first?

1660
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:06,960
Speaker 2: You need that.

1661
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:09,599
Speaker 1: I already we always think of them on the spot,

1662
01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:12,000
Speaker 1: but of course I just had one come to me

1663
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:12,519
Speaker 1: on the spot.

1664
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:14,439
Speaker 3: Okay, go great, And this helped, you know. I came

1665
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:16,160
Speaker 3: into early on the intro. I should come into early

1666
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:17,840
Speaker 3: on the clothes. Yeah, don't you feel as if it

1667
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 3: bookends for the for the listener, and especially the watcher.

1668
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:21,280
Speaker 3: It gives a bookend.

1669
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:26,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, shout out to Love on the Spectrum.

1670
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:28,880
Speaker 2: It's the greatest show on television. I'm so happy it's back.

1671
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:32,519
Speaker 3: These are my absolute friends, y'all. This is the friends

1672
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:35,719
Speaker 3: cast to me is Love on the Spectrum. Talk about

1673
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:38,639
Speaker 3: a warm bath. I'm spending time with David, with Abby,

1674
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:40,920
Speaker 3: with Tanner, with Connor. I'm love in my life.

1675
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:42,960
Speaker 2: All of the new people are so good.

1676
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:45,679
Speaker 3: I was weeping like I'm reading the New Yorker Fish

1677
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:48,519
Speaker 3: article watching this season of Love on the Spectrum. I

1678
01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:51,559
Speaker 3: wish every person would watch that show. I think it

1679
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:55,880
Speaker 3: is so that part the best, you know what I mean? Yeah, so,

1680
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:58,160
Speaker 3: shouts out to all of them. I would love to

1681
01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:01,600
Speaker 3: meet or work with any of you. Please find me,

1682
01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 3: run up to me in a public space with a

1683
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:05,360
Speaker 3: weapon if you need.

1684
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:07,320
Speaker 2: I want to know you.

1685
01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:10,200
Speaker 3: I want to be friends with you, and I want

1686
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:11,599
Speaker 3: to celebrate you most of all.

1687
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:12,560
Speaker 1: Whooo.

1688
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 2: I have also been I started season one like two

1689
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 2: weeks ago, and I love it. It is the best. Yeah,

1690
01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:21,680
Speaker 2: I am very fish about it.

1691
01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 3: Where it's like, I have such earnest admiration for the

1692
01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:28,760
Speaker 3: show and the people on it, and they're so funny.

1693
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 2: And it's it's it's it's really nice. They're so funny.

1694
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:36,720
Speaker 1: Okay, I have one. Oh, thank God, what's up? I'm

1695
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:40,880
Speaker 1: gonna keep going with via television theme. What's up, television viewers.

1696
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:43,320
Speaker 1: I want to give a shout out to this very

1697
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:46,760
Speaker 1: particular state that I can will my brain to be in.

1698
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:49,719
Speaker 1: It is it. It is a version of the Sunken Place,

1699
01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:52,280
Speaker 1: but it is I think as little Mourgeois de vive,

1700
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:56,360
Speaker 1: and I have been accessing it every night over the

1701
01:14:56,439 --> 01:15:00,679
Speaker 1: last calendar month, when every night I am watching Family

1702
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:03,280
Speaker 1: Guy on Hulu dot com.

1703
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:04,639
Speaker 2: To me, I am on.

1704
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:07,719
Speaker 1: Season I didn't start from the very beginning, but regardless

1705
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:10,720
Speaker 1: very I started, I'm on season eleven. I'm watching it.

1706
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:15,040
Speaker 1: I am letting it AutoPlay, and I am fully watching

1707
01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:19,519
Speaker 1: Family Guy by myself on my computer in bed.

1708
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:21,639
Speaker 3: As God intended, I am.

1709
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:24,520
Speaker 1: Shutting off any part of my brain that is reacting

1710
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:27,400
Speaker 1: to anything, and it is washing over me the same

1711
01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:31,760
Speaker 1: way honestly a warm bath wood. I think when I

1712
01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 1: am ready to comment on what I'm seeing, I will activate.

1713
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:38,439
Speaker 1: But for now, I am in this very special brain

1714
01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:41,720
Speaker 1: state that I think leminals very liminal and is very

1715
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 1: ampersand and I think rather than judging myself for it,

1716
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:47,720
Speaker 1: I am going to sit in it and see what

1717
01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:48,200
Speaker 1: comes of it.

1718
01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:53,280
Speaker 2: Wow, whoop, that is crazy preactivated. Yeah, I can't.

1719
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 1: You want to see people, If you want to see

1720
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 1: people look shocked, if you want to see the light

1721
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:00,719
Speaker 1: drain from people's face, tell them you've been watching family

1722
01:16:00,760 --> 01:16:05,680
Speaker 1: guy people on all communities. We're talking gay, straight, all mainstream,

1723
01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 1: old young. I've never seen a reaction like that, And

1724
01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:12,799
Speaker 1: I've done many things that that are you've done considered

1725
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:13,800
Speaker 1: a taboo thing?

1726
01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:19,280
Speaker 2: Okay, what's up freaks, losers and perverts around the globe.

1727
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:22,200
Speaker 2: I would like to give a shout out to you

1728
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:23,920
Speaker 2: know that thing when you wake up and you're like

1729
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:25,960
Speaker 2: really stressed out and it's like three am, and you're like,

1730
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:28,080
Speaker 2: why am I awake? And then you lay there. I

1731
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 2: want to give a shout out to getting up and saying,

1732
01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:33,040
Speaker 2: you know what, enough, I'm gonna do stuff. I'm gonna

1733
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:34,920
Speaker 2: get up and I'm gonna fucking do stuff until I

1734
01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 2: get tired. And I find that this is a much

1735
01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:40,639
Speaker 2: more productive way stuff I'm well, one.

1736
01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:41,600
Speaker 1: I'm reading, jerking it.

1737
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:45,280
Speaker 2: Sometimes I'm jerking it. Sometimes I'm having a beautiful water.

1738
01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:48,120
Speaker 2: Sometimes I'm journaling. Sometimes as soon as I write down

1739
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:50,240
Speaker 2: like everything that's running through my mind, I'm like, oh

1740
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 2: that's it, Okay, time for bad you need to download.

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01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:56,320
Speaker 2: You basically just have to like walk around and be like, okay, enough,

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01:16:56,439 --> 01:16:59,599
Speaker 2: just laying here, and then I have a book. I've

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01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 2: got a life for my books so that i can

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01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:04,800
Speaker 2: read it without waking up Misha, And it is an amazing,

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01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 2: amazing feeling to just lean in and honestly, sometimes when

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01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:11,519
Speaker 2: your mind is racing, you actually are having good ideas

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01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:13,840
Speaker 2: and you just have to roll with it because you

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01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:17,320
Speaker 2: can't you can't know when the spirit of creativity is

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01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:20,280
Speaker 2: going to enter you. So when you wake up at

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Speaker 2: three am, just roll with it. XXO.

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Speaker 3: I'm an adherent of this, but it's a practice they

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01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:27,840
Speaker 3: can't you can't always follow because it's happening in a space,

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01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:30,400
Speaker 3: a liminal space where your mind is not always your mind.

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01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 2: So there's times for the next.

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Speaker 3: Day I forget that I know this is the north Star,

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01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:36,840
Speaker 3: and I'm so frustrated to not have, you know, pointed

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01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:38,680
Speaker 3: pointed my sled Dogs towards it.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I just.

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01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:45,559
Speaker 1: Read on Billboard that limb Anal Billboard limb Anal Space

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Speaker 1: has just premiered and it's the lead single of sled

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Speaker 1: Pop cambridgem.

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Speaker 2: Anal Space Space.

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Speaker 1: That's good. Wow.

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Speaker 2: If anybody out there has a lot of time and

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Speaker 2: a photoshop account, we would love for you to make

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01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:01,280
Speaker 2: an album cover with the track list of all the

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01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:03,439
Speaker 2: tracks that we have. Na please, I.

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Speaker 3: Want the tracks be www dot Josh Sharpteda dot com.

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01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:10,760
Speaker 3: That on this graphic that you will share far and

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Speaker 3: wide on the dot com and then dot com dot perfect.

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Speaker 2: Okay, perfect, Well, everyone go see Josh's show and.

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Speaker 3: Tickets on sale now.

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Speaker 2: Tickets recently on sale at the moment this episode is coming.

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Speaker 1: Out Josh Sharpteday dot com.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:29,000
Speaker 3: And you know I need this stradio. A lot of

1777
01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:31,760
Speaker 3: freaks there, honestly, And I'm going to say this on

1778
01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:34,560
Speaker 3: this podcast and and no else, y'all will get the

1779
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:36,799
Speaker 3: show more than every other podcast audience.

1780
01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:40,719
Speaker 2: We know that the girls know you're going on Exploration

1781
01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:42,120
Speaker 2: Live and you're saying that exact same ship.

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01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 1: You're go to the Daily and you're saying Michael Barbarrow,

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01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:46,160
Speaker 1: your listeners are gonna absolutely freak.

1784
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:49,960
Speaker 3: You know, the daily listeners will hate my show. And

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01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:51,680
Speaker 3: I will tell that to Michael Barbrow. I'll say it

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01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:54,160
Speaker 3: to his face. I'm here to talk about the topic

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01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:55,640
Speaker 3: of the day, but not my show. I do not

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01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:58,200
Speaker 3: want your listeners there. Say to Barbarrow, do you think

1789
01:18:58,200 --> 01:19:01,840
Speaker 3: you could turn him gay again? I think he's got

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01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:03,839
Speaker 3: some cues. I think some cues.

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Speaker 2: King.

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01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:10,000
Speaker 1: He's like Amberson coded. He is so down. Have you

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01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:10,400
Speaker 1: had him on?

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01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:11,960
Speaker 2: Yeah?

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01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:14,360
Speaker 1: Actually no, Well we had him on, but it was

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Speaker 1: a bad episode ended up.

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01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:18,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, this was mutually agreed upon from both parties.

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01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:21,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we told him to funk off. Is this

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Speaker 2: known or can't?

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Speaker 1: I cannot?

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01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:25,559
Speaker 3: I don't know.

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01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:28,800
Speaker 2: I don't know what y'all podcast Queen's be doing. Y'all have,

1803
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:30,920
Speaker 2: y'all have a community. Y'all are the fish.

1804
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 3: You know there's a y'all are fish.

1805
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:33,719
Speaker 2: Y'all are.

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01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:36,479
Speaker 1: Well.

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01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:39,080
Speaker 2: Michael Barrow. It's an open invite.

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01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:41,599
Speaker 3: An open invite. Actually, Barbara, you can come to opening night.

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01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:44,599
Speaker 3: I'm gonna save you a ticket in the front waiting

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01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:45,479
Speaker 3: for Govment style.

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01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:49,719
Speaker 2: If Barbarrow comes, reserved for barbar Oh, that'll be nice

1812
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:51,519
Speaker 2: and every night you look and he's not there and

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01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:52,000
Speaker 2: you're like.

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01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:55,760
Speaker 3: Fuck, I guess this one's just for me.

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01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:59,200
Speaker 2: Well, Josh, thanks so much for doing the podcost my

1816
01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:01,880
Speaker 2: god a blessing, an absolute blessing, and to be in

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01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:03,520
Speaker 2: the IRL kind of way.

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Speaker 1: Thank God. And I just want to say thank you

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01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:08,400
Speaker 1: everyone who has participated in the week of Stradio Lab

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01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:16,160
Speaker 1: six episodes and one live show, Endless Opportunities and Endless

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01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:19,160
Speaker 1: Fun and Endless play fish Style.

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01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:25,800
Speaker 2: Thank you well, Bye bye podcast and now want more.

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Speaker 2: Stradio Lab is a production by Will Ferrell's Big Money

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Speaker 2: Players Network and iHeart Podcasts.

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Speaker 1: Created and hosted by George Severes and Sam Taggart.

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Speaker 2: Executive produced by Will Ferrell, Hans Sonny and Olivia Aguilar.

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01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:53,400
Speaker 1: Co produced by by Wang.

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Speaker 2: Edited and engineered by Adam Avalos.

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Speaker 1: Artwork by Michael Failes and Matt Gruff. Theme music by

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