1 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grease. Why do these two phrases 2 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 1: end up in one sentence? Beautiful baby girl and acetone poisoning? 3 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: What is acetone? It's fingernail polish remover. I first found 4 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 1: out about acetone when I was investigating and prosecuting arson 5 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: cases and fires were started with accelerants flammable liquids containing acetone. 6 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: It lights up like gas. Beautiful baby dead, fingernail polish. I'mansy, Grace, 7 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: this is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us 8 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: here on Crime Stories and on series XM one eleven. 9 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: I am so angry I could chew a nail in half. 10 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: I want justice so badly when I think about my twins, John, 11 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: David and Lucy at eighteen months, the most beautiful, most innocent, tender, sweet, 12 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: the apple of my eye, the heart of my heart. 13 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: How in the h E double l does this? Beautiful 14 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: baby iris rita drink fingernail polish remover? And that is 15 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: the tip of the iceberg. Let's start at the beginning. Listen. 16 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 2: Emergency responders arrive at the home of be Lee Kobe, 17 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 2: where he lives with his girlfriend, Alicia Owens. Upon arrival, 18 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 2: first responders find Jacobe's eighteen month old daughter breeding with 19 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 2: a fixed gaze and weak response, and transport Iris Alfara 20 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:15,239 Speaker 2: to UPMC Jamison Hospital for treatment. The child is later 21 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 2: airlifted to UPMC Children's Hospital in Pittsburgh, about an hour away. 22 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 2: Four days later, eighteen month old iris Rita Alfara dies. 23 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 2: Her mysterious death shocks the community and the Newcastle Police 24 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:28,959 Speaker 2: Department opens an investigation. 25 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: I have an all star panel to figure out what 26 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 1: happened to baby iris Rita. But first I'm going to 27 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: go to two very special guests joining us, Candace and 28 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: Frank Alfara. This is the grandma and the granddad of 29 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 1: baby Iris. Mister and miss Alfara. Thank you for being 30 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: with us. To you, oh, thank you, Miss Alfara. Do 31 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 1: you remember the moment that you learned baby iris Rita 32 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: was dead. 33 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 3: Yes, I was holding her hand in the hospital with 34 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 3: my daughter. We sat for four days, praying and praying 35 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 3: that she would open her eyes. If they said her 36 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 3: brain was too injured and her organs were selling and 37 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 3: there was no chance of her surviving. 38 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 4: My daughter, I. 39 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 3: Had to choose to stop life support. 40 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: Mister Alpharah, where were you at that moment? Frank? 41 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 4: I was right there too, in the hospital with her, 42 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 4: talking to her and trying to get at a respond 43 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 4: that I knew that she wasn't. She wasn't she was dead. 44 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 4: I knew it. I just just tried to get her 45 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 4: to respond and nothing happened. 46 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 3: We never left for four days, not for no, no, 47 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 3: we didn't. 48 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 1: You're reminding me of two moments in life. One standing 49 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:25,239 Speaker 1: with my dad, holding on to him as he passed away, 50 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 1: and everyone was saying, you can go, feel free, go 51 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: to heaven, and I was literally whispering in his ear, 52 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: don't go, don't leave me. You can you can make 53 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: it comeback, you can do this. And then the horrible 54 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: time I couldn't be with my fiance when he was murdered, 55 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: and by the time I knew anything, it was over. 56 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: And I can't even decide which one was worse. But 57 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 1: I do know this, you are here. The distraught grandparents 58 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 1: of baby Iris reached to Alfara, who were there with 59 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: her when she died. This baby did not have to die. 60 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 1: This did not have to happen. The baby airlifted to 61 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: UPMC Children's Hospital in Pittsburgh. Doctors doing all they could do. 62 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: But what do we learn when doctors try to determine 63 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: why did baby Iris die Listen. 64 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 5: An autopsy was performed the day after Iris Alfara passes, 65 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 5: and the results are shocking. The cause of death of 66 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 5: eighteen month old Iris rita alphara acetone poisoning, which caused 67 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 5: the organ failure. Medical experts who examine the baby's body 68 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 5: conclude that the child was exposed to acetone just before 69 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 5: her hospitalization. Pennsylvania Attorney General Michelle Henry's office issued a 70 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 5: statement that the medical examiner determined that the child's death 71 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 5: was the result of fatal levels of acetone in her 72 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 5: blood at the time of death. 73 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: Joining us in addition to the grandparents of baby Iris, 74 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: Candice and Frank, who were with her four straight days 75 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: praying that Iris could rebound, holding her little body as 76 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 1: she passed on to heaven. Doctor William Marony, renowned expert 77 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: medical examiner, toxicologist, pathologist, author of American Narcan. Doctor Maroney, 78 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. What is acetone? 79 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 6: Axotone is a solvent. It's used in a lot of 80 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 6: chemical processes and it's a metabolic byproduct. But there's one 81 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 6: thing we never have. 82 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 7: Axotone is never in food. 83 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 6: Acotone is never supposed to be ingested it's toxic. 84 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 7: It's neurotoxic. 85 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 6: It goes to the brain, it goes to the nerves, 86 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 6: it shut saw body functions, and it's so toxic that 87 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 6: we don't measure it in milligrams. We measure it in 88 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 6: parts per million because it can become toxic as a vapor, 89 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 6: so to drink a liquid is even worse. It's acute, 90 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 6: and it does damage that is irreversible and unlike a 91 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 6: poison that may be an opioid and you have a 92 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 6: reversal agent like narcan, there is no reversal agent, especially 93 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 6: in a delicate eighteen month old baby that still doesn't 94 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 6: have the functional vital capacity to repair like an adult. 95 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 7: It's neuro toxic. 96 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 6: It'll damage the heart, it'll damage eyes, it'll damage lungs, 97 00:07:56,400 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 6: it'll damage the liver, but it damages the brain. 98 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: For doctor Maroney, how many children do you have? 99 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 6: Well, five, but two biological. I have some other like 100 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 6: you know, adopted kind of. 101 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: Do you remember when they were eighteen months old? Oh yeah, 102 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: that was actually one of my favorite times with the twins. 103 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: They were learning. It took them longer to learn to 104 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: walk because they were so so so premature, but they 105 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: were learning to walk and Lucy would crawl on one 106 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: leg and drag the other leg to her side. She 107 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: kind of went sideways like a crab. And at eighteen months, 108 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: we were teaching them to walk, and it was one 109 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: of the most wonderful times of my life. Candaceel Ferrah 110 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 1: tell me about Iris at eighteen months. 111 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 3: At eighteen months, Iris's mama todd her spine language because 112 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 3: she talked a lot. She said a lot of words 113 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 3: that she'd have sentences yet, so Iris knew any sign 114 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:10,199 Speaker 3: language that there was to know her mother was so amazing. 115 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 3: I used to tell my daughter how proud I was 116 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 3: of her for being the best mother. I could imagine 117 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 3: she'd sit with that baby and she'd tell her cookie cookie, 118 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 3: and she would do the sign language for it, and 119 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 3: that baby picked up on everything. I have a video 120 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 3: of her walking towards her mother at Christmas. She was 121 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 3: opening gifts. She saw Santa's cookies since she was going 122 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 3: to bite one and em didn't want her to eat it. 123 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 3: So she's walking towards her mom and she's signing to 124 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 3: her mother. 125 00:09:48,600 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: Al my Stars Prime Stories with Nancy Grace. You know, 126 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: I'm curious about something, Doctor William Moroney said, renown medical examiner. 127 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: You said that acetone is toxic even as a vapor, 128 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: and I'm thinking about something, doctor Moroney. I usually don't 129 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 1: do my nails, okay, because when I was a child lawyer, 130 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: I thought that was too flashy to have long painted 131 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: nails in front of a jury. And I know, call 132 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: it crazy, but that's what I thought. But I've been 133 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: in nail salon's and there have been times I've had 134 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: to actually leave because I felt like I couldn't breathe right, 135 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: and I'm wondering if that's acetone or like when you 136 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: take off if I take off Lucy's fingernail polish my daughter. 137 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: Sometimes I have to step back from it because it's 138 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: so overwhelming to me. 139 00:10:56,360 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 6: Yes, and neurotoxic accumulate because it doesn't exit the body 140 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 6: right away, and it does your thinking and the brain 141 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 6: controls how you breathe, so it stops normal breathing and heartbeats, 142 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 6: but it damages the brain at a level that you 143 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 6: can understand if I had to give a different example, 144 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:25,439 Speaker 6: if you took a gallon of Ever Clearer vodka and 145 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 6: forced that a one year old, that's the amount of 146 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 6: damage from alcohol. The damage from acetone. It's the same thing. 147 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: What led up to this? Take a listen to our 148 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: friends at crimeonline dot Com. 149 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 8: During a weekend visitation at her father's house, Bailey Jacoby 150 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 8: goes to the grocery store, leaving Iris with his living girlfriend, 151 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 8: Alicia Owens. As he is preparing to check out at 152 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 8: the grocery store, Alicia Owens calls to Kobe and tells 153 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 8: him that something is wrong with Iris. She isn't acting 154 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 8: like herself. She is unresponsive. Kobe tells Owens to call 155 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 8: nine one one, and he rushes out of the grocery store, 156 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 8: leaving his groceries at the checkout line. 157 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 9: Owens was feeding Iris and the baby appeared to have 158 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 9: cramped up and fell off the bed. She said she 159 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 9: was in nursing training and she tried to perform chess compressions. 160 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 9: She called Jacoby and he told her to call nine 161 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 9: one one. 162 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: Joining us now is Alexis tereschut. Crime online dot Com 163 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: investigative reporter Alexis, Wait a minute, are you telling me 164 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: the live in Alicia Owens is in nurse training. Yeah, 165 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: but I don't understand Alexis to reest shut because if 166 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: she is in nursing training and the baby cramps up 167 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: and falls off the bed and is unresponsive. Why does 168 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: she have to call the boyfriend to have him tell 169 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: her to call nine one one? 170 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 10: So she was only the mattress where she fell off 171 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 10: the bed, It was only six inches off the floor. 172 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 10: And then she said she started doing chess compressions because 173 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 10: the baby wasn't breathing. So then she panished and called 174 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 10: the baby's father and that he's the one that told her. 175 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 10: So she didn't even think to call nine on one. 176 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 10: She called him first. 177 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: That just right there doesn't make sense to me. Larry 178 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 1: for Letta is joining us from Newcastle private investigator founder 179 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,959 Speaker 1: off for Letta Investigative Security Consulting. You can find them 180 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: online at fc I SLLC for Letta Investigative Security Consulting. 181 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: Former law enforcement Larry right there, if she is training 182 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: to be a nurse, the first thing you do is 183 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: called nine one one. I wouldn't try to hunt down 184 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: days and go, wow, what do you think I should do? 185 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: My baby's unresponsive and she fell off the bed. What 186 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: do you think? 187 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 4: Oh? 188 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 1: Hell none? You call nine one one right? Then? 189 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 4: That is so strong, so bad that the baby didn't 190 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 4: have a chance from right right then as soon as 191 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 4: she ingested it. 192 00:13:55,800 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: Jarrett Farentino, homicide prosecutor in Pennsylvania jurisdiction. You can find 193 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: him at Jarrettfarentino dot com. He's the host of True 194 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: Crime Boss podcast. Jared, thank you for being with us. 195 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: I've prosecuted a lot of cases where children have been killed. 196 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: A lot of times. We've seen cases where children pick 197 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: something up and eat it. How many times do we have, Oh, 198 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: this child picked up a pot brownie at school and 199 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: ate it, or this or that. I find it really 200 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: hard to believe that an eighteen month old is a 201 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: going to get access to something like fingernail polish that's 202 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: supposed to be out of their reach. But b even 203 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: if they get it, they're gonna not only take a 204 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: sent but continue drinking it. It kind of taste horrible. 205 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 11: Nancy, this is a highly suspicious situation. A child of 206 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 11: eighteen months would certainly reject acetone and just to be 207 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 11: exposed at that level, this would certainly jump right out 208 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 11: at the medical treaters. And it's highly vicious, and the 209 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 11: explanation and the description given to this point would really 210 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 11: draw these suspicions of the treaters at this point. 211 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: Alexis, tereschak, you're raising a wonderful little boy. And I 212 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: discussed this with you. When it happened is before you 213 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: had your baby. I was giving John David a bath 214 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: and I turned around. I had him laying on the 215 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: bed to put lotion on him. I turned around to 216 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: get a towel. He fell off the bed and it 217 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: was high up. It was a good two feet off 218 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: the ground or three. And I did not call David 219 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: and say, wow, what should I do? I mean, John 220 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: David cried for a minute, then he acted normal. I 221 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: picked him up, wrapped him up in a towel, butt naked, 222 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: and ran ran out onto the street at somewhere along 223 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: First Avenue and started screaming for a cab. All right, 224 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: went straight to the doctor. I did not learn my lesson, Alexis. 225 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: About three weeks later, I did the same thing. I 226 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: turned around one minute to get the lotion for Lucy. 227 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: She fell off the bed, same scenario. My point is, 228 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: it's not making sense to me. I don't believe a 229 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: baby it might pick something up and take a bite, 230 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: but if it tastes bad, they'll just spit it out. 231 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: They won't keep drinking, chugging, then you know polish remover. 232 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 10: No, you can't even get a baby eat broccoli, much 233 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 10: less drink. See you nail polish Removerhe this is absolutely 234 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 10: not the truth about how this child ingested the poison. 235 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: And this is what is really Okay, it's all upsetting, 236 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: but this, this is gonna blow your head off. There 237 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: were warning signs. Listen to Dave mac crime online dot com. 238 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 5: Iris Rita Alfara is a bubbly active toddler. She loves 239 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 5: watching Miss Rachel on YouTube and has even learned some 240 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 5: sign language while watching the program. When iris mother me Emily, 241 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 5: is changing her diver see some water beads and gets concerned. 242 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 5: Emily takes Iris to the hospital, where doctors watch over 243 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 5: the little girl. Over the next few days, she passes 244 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 5: about twenty water beads. She also passes three button shaped 245 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 5: batteries and a metal screw. After four days, Emily is 246 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 5: able to take Iris home. 247 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 1: What is a water bead? Who knows? What is a 248 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: water bead? Anybody jump in? What is a water bead? 249 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:26,479 Speaker 4: It's a little thing that kids play with. They're really small. 250 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 4: They start out about the size of your finger nail. 251 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 4: But then when they hit water, they expand, and she 252 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 4: probably wanted her to hurt her and her digestive system 253 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 4: when they all expanded, but the baby passed them out. 254 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: Okay, hold on just a minute. I'm looking them up 255 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: right now. Water beads. What do you do with them, Alexis. 256 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 10: You play with them in the bathtub. You put your 257 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 10: baby in the bathroom. My son loved them. 258 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: Wait, they look like the baby would want to eat them. 259 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 10: Well, I think, to me, eighteen months is too young 260 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 10: for them, It really, really is. 261 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 1: I mean, they look like candy. They kind of look 262 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: like grapes. 263 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:11,360 Speaker 10: They do exactly. They look like candy. But you put 264 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 10: them in the water and they play, and you're right there, 265 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 10: you sit there in the back. You never let your 266 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 10: child be alone in the bathtub. 267 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 1: I think that's a bad idea. I'm just putting it 268 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: out there about water beads. Come on, doctor Maroney, back 269 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: me up on this. They're tempting. They look like something yummy. 270 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, but I would never give an eighteen month 271 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 4: old water beads. Oh no, she SAIDs would be too young, 272 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 4: eighteen months old to play with, even if you're standing 273 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 4: even if you're standing there watching her. 274 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 1: Agree Elysis Reshak, I understand twenty water beads. She poopied 275 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: twenty water beads and three batteries and a metal screw 276 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: that I get that. 277 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 4: Right, exactly right. 278 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 10: The water beads, well, okay, so water beads are going 279 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 10: to be soft, right, they're like little jell as you said, 280 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 10: they're like a grape. A battery, even if it's little, 281 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 10: is hard. She's a tiny child. This is not something 282 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 10: that she would have just picked up off the ground 283 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 10: and eaten on her own and then thought, let me 284 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:10,959 Speaker 10: have another battery. 285 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 3: Those were so tasty. 286 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 10: This is not something that she would have done organically. 287 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 10: And all these are hard substances. 288 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: Candace Alfara, how big was the screw that Iris passed? 289 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 1: It was a. 290 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 3: Little like attacking screw? What attacking screw. 291 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 1: Doctor William Roney? Attacking screw? What could that and batteries 292 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: do to a child? Now? I understand the water beads 293 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: are full of water, so unless you choke on it, 294 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: it's not going to kill you. But what does all 295 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: this do to the baby's system? 296 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 7: What's really important is that batteries contain heavy metals and acids, 297 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 7: and it would eat away inside and cause erosion in 298 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:05,360 Speaker 7: the gi track and internal bleeding. That's the exact same 299 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 7: thing a screw would do. They're trying to cause bleeding 300 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 7: inside the baby and toxic elements from a battery inside 301 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 7: the baby. That's some kind of homicide by proxy or something. 302 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: Guys, right there, right there, don't you agree, you're at Farantino. 303 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: There should have been a major investigation about why the 304 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: baby is eating water, beads and screws. I mean, even 305 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 1: if no one fed that to her, still there's something 306 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: very wrong that she's getting access to this kind of 307 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 1: material and can ingest it. 308 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 11: Nancy, any one of these items, the or beat, water beats, 309 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 11: the screw, or the button sized battery should trigger the 310 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 11: suspicions of the medical providers when Emily discovered them in 311 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 11: her diape. All three together, there is no natural explanation 312 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 11: for why these would end up in Iris's digestional track 313 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 11: and her diaper. It's just absolutely should have spawned an 314 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 11: investigation and the suspicions of everyone and Nancy. 315 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 4: Hospital staff. 316 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 12: They are mandated reporters, you know, the nurses, the doctors 317 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 12: in person that in a hospital room and came into 318 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 12: contact with that baby was a mandated reporter. So I'm 319 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 12: curious was a child abuse report filed at that time? 320 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 12: Because hospitals, especially children's hospital, they are very used to 321 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 12: filing reports. Excuse me, they are very used to filing 322 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 12: reports because they see child abuse cases all the time. 323 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 12: So I'm wondering what happened at this point with in 324 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 12: terms of filing. 325 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: I'm wondering that too. You're hearing doctor Bethany Marshall, renowned 326 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: psycho analysts, joining us out of LA. You can find 327 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 1: her at doctor Bethanymarshall dot com. So I'm curious and 328 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 1: everybody about those water beads. Remember one of you mentioned 329 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: at the beginning, I think it was you, Alexis They expand, 330 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: so you swallow one, it expands in your body. I 331 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 1: can't imagine this child having swallowed twenty of these things 332 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: and nobody noticed. Then batteries, then a screw. So what happened? Listen? 333 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 2: After the incident with Iris ingesting waterbeads, batteries, and a screw, 334 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 2: Pennsylvania Child Youth Services CYS inspects the home of both 335 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 2: parents and, according to Newsweek, finds no issue at either residence. 336 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 2: Iris lives with her mother full time, but she continues 337 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 2: to visit her dad at his house where Bailey Jacobi 338 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 2: lives with his girlfriend, Alicia Linney Owens. 339 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:49,959 Speaker 1: Okay, back to the grandparents, Candice and Frank Alfara, missus Alfara, 340 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: when she had ingested water beads batteries at a screw. 341 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: Who had she been with? 342 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 3: She was with her father Wednesday night and she started 343 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 3: parenting them Thursday afternoon. 344 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: Okay, and yet what do they do? They send the baby, 345 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 1: this beautiful defenseless baby Iris right back to the home 346 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,439 Speaker 1: with the dad and the live in. I'll slung up 347 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 1: with him and she dies. Where the chl is the investigation? 348 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: What happened to Deepak's department, Family Children's Services or CPS 349 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: CHOPD Protective Services? Why did they send her right back 350 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: into the lions den? And now she's dead. It's not 351 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: the first time does the name Josh Powell ring a bell? 352 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: Because I will never forget it. Take a listen to 353 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: the social worker that led his two children right up 354 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 1: to his front door before they were murdered by an 355 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: axe and the house blew up. Everybody knew he had 356 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: killed his wife, Susan Cox killed her, never found a body. 357 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 1: So what does defects. Do oh, they make sure the 358 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 1: children go right back to daddy. Listen to this nine 359 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: to one one call and don't feel sorry for the defects. Worker. 360 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: Listen and I'd like to pull out of that driveway 361 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: to think now gat bleen and he won't let me in. 362 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 4: Do you want to pull out at the driveway because 363 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 4: you smell gat kleene? 364 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 11: But he won't let you. 365 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 1: He won't let me in. 366 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 13: He won't let you out of the driveway. 367 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: He won't let me in the house. 368 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 10: Get in the house, and he won't let me in to 369 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 10: pervide it? 370 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: Did Josh Powell? 371 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 4: Okay, you don't live there right now? 372 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 3: I don't you know. 373 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 10: I'm taking to provide to provide pication. 374 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 11: Okay, okay, so you're supposed to be there to sup 375 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 11: pervide Josh Powell with the children. 376 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's crap, and hit the knitting and Powell how 377 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 4: did he the high profile ca? How did he? 378 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,120 Speaker 5: How did he to the children? 379 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 3: I would wind step and back of them, walk you out? 380 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 11: Yeah, okay, cut the door right in my cap. 381 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 1: Yeah I smell gas. So let me save my own 382 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 1: sorry skin and get out of here. Even though I 383 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 1: know two helpless little boys are in there with him, 384 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: where I smell gas. She even says, this is a 385 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: high profile case. You darn right, So what was she thinking? 386 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: Let me go ahead, screw this thing up, and I'll 387 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 1: leave and leave them in there, and there's more. Listen, 388 00:25:49,160 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: you don't want to stop it, Sidney. I can't stand 389 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: to even hear her voice. She's in the driveway talking 390 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: about saving herself, and the house explodes. When the two 391 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: little boys are found, their necks have been chopped with 392 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 1: an axe, and practically all the evidence is destroyed. Yeah, 393 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: Defects did a great job on that one. And what 394 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 1: about little Harmony Montgomery? Do you remember Harmony? Because I 395 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 1: sure do. Harmony Montgomery had been abused and mistreated. Her 396 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:40,120 Speaker 1: mom deserted her, and she was with her father who 397 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 1: abused her. Even her biological uncle called and reported to 398 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 1: Defects he had seen her with a black eye. What happened? 399 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: She disappeared. All that's been left found of her is 400 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: sometime of a gooey substance that was found where her 401 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: body was decomposing. We managed to match up DNA. Take 402 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 1: a listen to Dave mac in twenty four from Crime Online. 403 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 5: Harmony Montgomery was placed in the custody of the Department 404 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 5: of Child and Families in twenty fourteen, when she was 405 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 5: two months old. She remained in the custody of DCF 406 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 5: until February of twenty nineteen, when Harmony's father, Adam Montgomery, 407 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 5: was awarded custody by the Juvenile Court of Massachusetts. Harmony 408 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 5: Montgomery was last seen by her biological mother, Crystal Story, 409 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 5: Easter twenty nineteen, after the video called with Harmony. Her 410 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 5: mother says Adam Montgomery blocked all contact with her. In 411 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 5: November twenty twenty one, Crystal Story calls police and tells 412 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 5: them about Harmony and how she can't find her. Police 413 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 5: try and make contact, failing that, DCF is called. Even 414 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 5: though Harmony Montgomery had been in and out of foster 415 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 5: care for most of her short life, a judge placed 416 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 5: her with her father, and now nobody, including DCF, seems 417 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 5: to know why happened to her or where she is. 418 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 1: Because she was murdered by her father after CPS put 419 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: her back in the custody off her father. And I've 420 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: got so many pages of cases for little babies. Children 421 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: are given back to their abusers and then die. I 422 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 1: mean this child has twenty water beads, batteries and screws 423 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 1: coming out of her rear end. How hard do you 424 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: think that was for this little girl to pass all that? 425 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: But yet where do they send her straight back to? 426 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 1: As I said, the lions den listen to this. 427 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 8: Police obtained the cell phones of Owen's and Jacoby. Forensic 428 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 8: extractions of Owen's cell phone show she searched online for 429 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 8: topics such as if your child drinks a lot of 430 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 8: nail polish, remover, what happens? And what happens if a 431 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 8: baby eats nail polish? And how many cases have there 432 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 8: been from babies dying from eating nail polish? Another sir 433 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 8: on Owen's phone was in how many cases have kids 434 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 8: died from eating water beads? Water beads, harmful water beads 435 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 8: near me? And beauty products that are poisonous to kids. 436 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 8: According to the Newcastle News, those searches were a month 437 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 8: before Iris was hospitalized from the water beads. 438 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: If these searches had been done after baby Iris went 439 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: to the doctor, they might be a little more understandable, 440 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: but they were all ahead of time. Jarrett Fiorentino, this woman, 441 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: this living girlfriend, nursing training. According to her, might as 442 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: well take out a billboard on Third Avenue and say 443 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: I murdered a baby. 444 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 11: These I hear nothing more than intent. Nancy just lying 445 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 11: in wait planning the horrific these searches. When you consider 446 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 11: it happened to baby Iris, It's so much information is 447 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 11: gleaned from reviewing these cell phones. And as you said, 448 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 11: if these were after the fact, she could be looking 449 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 11: for answers as far as what happened Iris there before 450 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 11: it's before she passed these items, and clearly it's after 451 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 11: she administered these items to the baby. 452 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: You know, to Candice Alfarah and Frank Alfara. These are 453 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: Iris's maternal grandparents who treated Iris as their baby just 454 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: eighteen months old. What went through your mind, missus Alfara, 455 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: when you found out about the girlfriend's Google searches. 456 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 3: My heart was broken that anybody could do that to 457 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 3: a baby, let alone our baby. I never ever thought 458 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 3: that we would be living without her. I had so 459 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 3: much hate, so much hate. 460 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: When I look at these texts, I mean, these searches. 461 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany Marshall, I want you to hear more of 462 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 1: the girlfriend. This is Alicia Owen's Internet searches. Listen to 463 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: Sydney Sumner Crime Online. 464 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 2: The investigation into Alicia Owen's cell phone reveals that before 465 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 2: Iris was hospitalized, Owen searched for symptoms of swallowing a battery. 466 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 2: What happens if a baby swallows a battery? And Mom 467 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 2: Warren's parents dangers of water beads. Then over the weekend, 468 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 2: Iris visited her father and later passed the water beads 469 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 2: and batteries. At her mother's home, Owen searched medications that 470 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 2: can be poisoning a child. 471 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: Think about it, doctor Bethany, think about these searches. If 472 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: your child drinks a lot of nail polish remover, what happens? 473 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: What happens if a baby eats nail polish. How many 474 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: cases have their band from babies dying from eating nail polish? 475 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 12: Nancy that you know, I just think about what little 476 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 12: baby Iris suffered when she was in the care of 477 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 12: this woman. Because what we're seeing is, you know, the 478 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 12: waterbeats that were ingested, the screws, the backas. But what 479 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 12: we're not really able to wrap our mind around is 480 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 12: other forms of maltreatment. 481 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 3: What did she feed the baby, how did she hold 482 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 3: the baby? 483 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 12: What did the baby have nutrition? Did she hit the baby? 484 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 12: Did she, you know, drop the baby purposely on the floor. 485 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 12: I mean, these are just the forms of abuse that 486 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 12: are measurable, but as we all know, there are forms 487 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 12: of child abuse that are not measurable and that we 488 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 12: can't even fathom. So, you know, an eighteen month old 489 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 12: is sentient, is emotional loves of people around them. You know, 490 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 12: thinks of all adults as lovable, lovable figures, wants to 491 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 12: be held. And yet she was with this monster who 492 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 12: was doing inflicting all kinds of harm. It just makes 493 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 12: me shudder to think of what was happening in that household. 494 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 1: And of course you're a farantina. While a polygraph is 495 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: typically not allowed it to evidence at a criminal trial, 496 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: of searches about how to beat a polygraph absolutely are admissible. 497 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: Listen to Rachelbania crimeonline dot com. 498 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,719 Speaker 9: During the days Iris Alfara was in the hospital, as 499 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 9: well as the day after she passes away, investigators discover 500 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 9: numerous online searches conducted on Alicia Owens's phone for information 501 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 9: on how to pass a polygraph test. 502 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: Back to Candice and Frank Alfhira, Mister Alfhira, thank you, 503 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 1: again for being with us. Uh huh When you found 504 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 1: out about these internet searches? What went through your mind? 505 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 4: I just couldn't believe that she could do that. I mean, 506 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 4: like I said, it's bad enough to search something like that, 507 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 4: but to actually go through it and do it to 508 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 4: that poor little, innocent baby. I just I don't know. 509 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 4: I can't explain. It's just hard. It's just real hard. 510 00:33:55,680 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 1: Did you, guys, ever meet the girlfriend before this incident? 511 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 4: No, not really. 512 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 3: My daughter asked him if she could meet her. She said, 513 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 3: you know, because she was going to be with her daughter, 514 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 3: that she would like to have a meeting and sit 515 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:17,280 Speaker 3: down and talk to her. And he refused, and Emily said, 516 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 3: just please don't leave Iris with her, because she's young 517 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 3: and it's not her baby. She won't have the patience 518 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:29,320 Speaker 3: that I have or you have. And he left the baby. 519 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 1: He left the baby with the live in guys, it's 520 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 1: not just the ingestion of fingernail pause, remover batteries and 521 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:44,800 Speaker 1: a screw. It's so much more than that that was 522 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: done to this little baby, Iris. Take a listen to 523 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: our friends at crime Online. 524 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 2: Doctors at UPMC Children's Child Advocacy Center are reported to 525 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 2: police that Iris suffered a subdural hematoma and bilateral retinal hemorrhages. 526 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 2: It was also determined acetone was present in her blood 527 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 2: and her body was found in organ failure. The Newcastle 528 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,800 Speaker 2: News reports One doctor indicated the injuries occurred during the 529 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 2: weekend while Iris was in the custody of Owens and Jacoby. 530 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 2: Another physician indicated that because of the nature and severity 531 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 2: of the baby's condition, any reasonable caretaker would have recognized 532 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 2: significant alterations with Iris's cognition and function immediately after the 533 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 2: event that caused the injuries. Owens and Jacoby told police 534 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 2: Iris had vomited a few times, but otherwise seemed normal. 535 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 1: Prime Stories with Nancy Grace doctor William Maroney joining US 536 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 1: pre eminent medical examiner and toxicologist doctor Moroney. What does 537 00:35:55,040 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 1: all that mean? Subdural hematoma, bilateral retinal hemorrhages, organ failure, 538 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 1: high levels of acetone? What does all this mean? 539 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 7: What it means is that acetone was the least of 540 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:15,399 Speaker 7: her problems. That baby was shaken and had its head 541 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,479 Speaker 7: slammed into a table or slammed into a wall. 542 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 11: That baby has a brain bleed. 543 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:29,800 Speaker 7: An organized red cell platelets, brain bleed just like a 544 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 7: car accident hitting a windshield, but it had its hands 545 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 7: and against furniture or a wall. There's multiple layers of 546 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 7: fatal incidents here. 547 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 4: This is demonic. 548 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 1: Larry for Letta, a private investigator and founder for Letta 549 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: Investigative Security Consulting. Larry, how would you go about proving 550 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 1: this case? I mean, we've got the internet searches. What 551 00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 1: else would you look for? 552 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,839 Speaker 13: You look at motive, what was behind this? I think 553 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:08,840 Speaker 13: it's clear this was premeditated. All the researches that she 554 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:13,320 Speaker 13: did on the internet, and the one thing about acetone 555 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 13: that I wanted to add as a retired dagent. Acetone 556 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 13: is commonly used to make It's one of the ingredients 557 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 13: that makes meth amphetamine. So it is a volatile substance 558 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 13: and it's extremely dangerous and that's why a lot of 559 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 13: times that meth labs blow up. So it's that dangerous 560 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 13: even handling this type of product. 561 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,839 Speaker 1: So it's acetone acause, Larry, and all the years I prosecuted, 562 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 1: we'd hear about a house blowing just blowing up spontaneously. 563 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 1: We're like, some others said, do you think they had 564 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 1: a gas lik I'm like, no, they were cooking up 565 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 1: meth and it blew up. So acetone is what makes 566 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:52,360 Speaker 1: the house blow up. 567 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 13: It's part of it's part of the chemical process that 568 00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 13: the drug traffickers use and added with some other ingredients 569 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:06,400 Speaker 13: is like free armed phosphorus. Uh, it becomes very volatile. 570 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:11,840 Speaker 13: And that's the danger of acetism besides the you know 571 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 13: what effected it has in Justine because you'll see a 572 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 13: lot of the nothing ampelmine users actually have you know, 573 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 13: sores on the outer part of their faces, and it's 574 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,840 Speaker 13: just it's really devastating to a human body. 575 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 1: Did you if Hearantino? Of course, the state never has 576 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 1: to prove the motive, but a jury is gonna want 577 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 1: to know why would the living girlfriend, daddy's girlfriend do 578 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:39,760 Speaker 1: this to the baby? 579 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 11: Nancy. I've seen this and I know you've seen it. 580 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 11: It's jealousy. It's another little woman in her boyfriend's life. 581 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 11: It's a constant reminder of Emily, Jacobe's X and Iris's mommy. 582 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 11: I mean, that's that's what this is about. It's total 583 00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:01,759 Speaker 11: jealousy and selfishness. And and that's where we've seen these 584 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,319 Speaker 11: kinds of cases in the past. This woman would rather 585 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,920 Speaker 11: see Iris out of the picture so she could move 586 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 11: forward with her relationship as the only woman in Jacoby's life. 587 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:18,360 Speaker 1: Kenna Alfarah Frank Alfarah, is this true? Why with the 588 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 1: girlfriend Daddy's girlfriend hate baby Irish so much? Miss Alfara? 589 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:29,640 Speaker 3: She was so jealous of Emily and the relationship they 590 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 3: had as co parody. They were wonderful together. I will 591 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,920 Speaker 3: say that she would call him if he wanted the 592 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,839 Speaker 3: baby on a day that he wasn't supposed to have her. 593 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:46,320 Speaker 3: Emily said here. If Emily wanted the baby early for something, 594 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:50,760 Speaker 3: he would say, come get her. They were wonderful together 595 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 3: co parenting, and she was so jealous that she turned 596 00:39:56,080 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 3: him against Emily. Then the baby was in the world. 597 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,719 Speaker 3: Once she got rid of Emily and made Bailey and 598 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:08,960 Speaker 3: m separate completely as co parents, she had to get 599 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:10,919 Speaker 3: rid of Iris, That's what I said. 600 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 4: The baby was a wedge between those two and she 601 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,920 Speaker 4: was just jealous and she had it to get rid 602 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,319 Speaker 4: of the baby, and that's what she did. 603 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany, have you ever seen jealousy manifest like this? 604 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,840 Speaker 12: You know, Nancy, Unfortunately I have, and sadly, you know, 605 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:35,360 Speaker 12: even in my Beverly Hills office with very wealthy, affluent families. 606 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,880 Speaker 12: Once there's a divorce and once a child is shared 607 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:44,239 Speaker 12: back and forth between households, all kinds of negative emotions 608 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,919 Speaker 12: began to intrude. And I think one of the most 609 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 12: difficult things for mothers when their babies go back and 610 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 12: forth between households is the thought that another their child, 611 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 12: and they always want to meet the other woman. They 612 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 12: want to make sure that the baby is safe. They 613 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 12: want to know, you know, who is this person, Well, 614 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,719 Speaker 12: my baby is interested in that person's care. But then 615 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,719 Speaker 12: then when envy and jealousy began to get intruded into 616 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:14,840 Speaker 12: the situation, it. 617 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 3: Is really really horrible. 618 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:23,880 Speaker 12: And when defact gets involved to reunite children with their families, 619 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:28,279 Speaker 12: they really want both biological parents to be involved in 620 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,400 Speaker 12: the baby's life, even if they're in separate households, So 621 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:36,359 Speaker 12: they tendnot to listen to these very nuanced situations where 622 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:41,400 Speaker 12: they're it. He's left alone with a non biological caretaker 623 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:47,240 Speaker 12: who hates the baby. And Alicia hated this baby because 624 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 12: this baby was the tie between her boyfriend and the boyfriends. 625 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,799 Speaker 1: And speaking of the boyfriend to Hay with him being 626 00:41:55,880 --> 00:42:02,360 Speaker 1: the boyfriend, he is Iris's biological father. That's his first duty. 627 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,759 Speaker 1: He needs to get the death penalty just like her. 628 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,959 Speaker 1: They both need the maximum sentence. Why should he walk 629 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 1: free and her be the one? He knew what was happening. 630 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,400 Speaker 1: It was happening on his watch right right, he. 631 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:21,640 Speaker 3: Found, he found his daughter. He put that which evil 632 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,799 Speaker 3: person first and his daughter second. When I gave him 633 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 3: that warning about the water beats, he should have opened 634 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 3: his eyes and watched. 635 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 1: What has your life been like, missus Alfara since this 636 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 1: happened to baby Iris? 637 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 3: My heart is broken. I will never ever know what 638 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 3: happiness is. Again, I'm not being dramatic. I'm not being anything. 639 00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:50,440 Speaker 3: I look at my daughter and my heart breaks, and 640 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 3: I think of my granddaughter and it breaks again. I 641 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:59,360 Speaker 3: have to watch my daughter without her baby. I have 642 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,320 Speaker 3: to think. I go past an ice cream store and 643 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,640 Speaker 3: I think my daughter will never take her baby to 644 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,720 Speaker 3: the park or to get ice cream, have her again. 645 00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:14,600 Speaker 3: How does she live with this? How does she live 646 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:18,400 Speaker 3: with it? How do I live? Watching my daughter without 647 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,959 Speaker 3: her baby with a broken heart. 648 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:27,759 Speaker 1: Mister Alpharrah Iris's grandfather, what has your life been like 649 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 1: since Iris was killed? 650 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 7: Oh? 651 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,239 Speaker 4: It's been horrible. I got a hole in my heart. 652 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:38,680 Speaker 4: It'll never It'll always be there, and I just missed 653 00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 4: that baby. I love that baby. And I worry about 654 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:48,440 Speaker 4: my daughter too because of what happened here, and she 655 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:53,919 Speaker 4: doesn't have her. She had outfits, matching outfits for both 656 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,960 Speaker 4: of them all the time. Every time she took her out, 657 00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 4: she always had her on her hip. She took her 658 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:03,719 Speaker 4: everywhere where, and I just love that baby. She bought 659 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:04,160 Speaker 4: her a. 660 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:05,320 Speaker 3: Big, uh. 661 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:11,920 Speaker 4: What's that called? Playpen? It was like five foot across 662 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,440 Speaker 4: by six foot long, and I used to get in 663 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:18,640 Speaker 4: there and play with the baby, and I just it's 664 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 4: just horrible. It's just terrible. I don't understand it. I 665 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:25,120 Speaker 4: just don't understand it. 666 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,080 Speaker 1: I just don't know how you put one foot in 667 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:31,480 Speaker 1: front of the other, because, you know, after my fiance 668 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,400 Speaker 1: was murdered, I thought I knew all about grief, but 669 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:40,680 Speaker 1: when I had the twins, my children, I just don't 670 00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,319 Speaker 1: even know how I could live or if I could 671 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,560 Speaker 1: live if they were taken away from me. And I 672 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,640 Speaker 1: want you to know that. Ever since we found out 673 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:53,480 Speaker 1: about Irish, I found out because somebody tweeted it to me. 674 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,879 Speaker 1: I didn't know anything about her case, but as soon 675 00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 1: as I found out about it, I passed it on 676 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:03,239 Speaker 1: to our whole staff, and we have been praying for 677 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 1: baby Iris, for you, the two of you, and for 678 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 1: Iris's mom ever since we found out what happened. But 679 00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,440 Speaker 1: I want you to know we are also praying for 680 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:18,200 Speaker 1: justice and let it rain down. 681 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:22,160 Speaker 4: We want justice, but it'll never bring the baby back. 682 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:26,040 Speaker 4: Anything that happens, we'll never bring that poor baby back. 683 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:32,520 Speaker 4: All we have is pictures and Texas and ashes. That's 684 00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:33,840 Speaker 4: all we have and a baby. 685 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:38,239 Speaker 1: We will continue to highlight the case to hopefully make 686 00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:43,120 Speaker 1: the prosecutor seek the maximum. Please join us again, and 687 00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,440 Speaker 1: please know you are in our prayers. If you know 688 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:51,040 Speaker 1: or think you know of a child in danger, please 689 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:55,520 Speaker 1: call our friends at child Help. Eight hundred four two 690 00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:59,680 Speaker 1: to two four four five three, eight hundred four to 691 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:10,080 Speaker 1: two four four five three. Goodbye, MHM