WEBVTT - TechStuff Predicts 2013 0:00:02.480 --> 0:00:05.520 Get in touch with technology with tech Stuff from how 0:00:05.559 --> 0:00:14.040 Stuff looks dot com. Hey there, everyone in Welcome to 0:00:14.360 --> 0:00:18.600 text Stuff. I'm Jonathan Strickland, I am a host extraordinaire, 0:00:18.840 --> 0:00:22.640 and I'm Lauren voge Obam and I'm here. That's true. 0:00:23.120 --> 0:00:27.120 So every year, tech Stuff is known for making wild 0:00:27.200 --> 0:00:30.400 and inaccurate predictions about what's to come in the following 0:00:30.440 --> 0:00:33.919 twelve months, and this year is no exception. But it's 0:00:33.960 --> 0:00:36.920 the first time that Lauren voge Obam has ever had 0:00:37.000 --> 0:00:42.160 the honor of participating in our prediction. O rama and Lauren, 0:00:42.680 --> 0:00:46.519 because your brand spanking new to the podcast, you get 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:49.080 to go first. Excellent. I have a long history of 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:51.840 being inaccurate. Since this is going to be great, Um, 0:00:51.880 --> 0:00:55.160 I think that in two thousand thirteen, laptops are going 0:00:55.200 --> 0:00:57.760 to make a comeback and desktops are going to continue 0:00:57.800 --> 0:01:01.840 decline in sales. Okay, so your prediction essentially is that 0:01:01.960 --> 0:01:05.080 laptops are gonna be fine. They're actually which is great 0:01:05.120 --> 0:01:08.080 news for companies that are really putting it all in 0:01:08.160 --> 0:01:12.200 for ultra books. But yeah, but the traditional desktop, the 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:16.080 tower and monitor is kind of not so much a thing, 0:01:16.319 --> 0:01:18.800 not so much a thing anymore. And I mean, the 0:01:18.920 --> 0:01:20.880 tablets have been have been really big over the past 0:01:20.920 --> 0:01:23.680 few years, and everyone's kind of going like, oh, tablets, tablets, 0:01:23.680 --> 0:01:26.440 tablet sales, more tablets for everybody, seven tablets per child. 0:01:26.520 --> 0:01:30.600 She's doing jazz hands, people, it's not not spired fingers, 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:35.200 jazz hands. And and uh, I think I think, I 0:01:35.200 --> 0:01:37.240 think that that that trend. I think that that really 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:39.080 people are not ready to give up laptops yet they 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:42.679 are too functional. I mean, tablets are sexy and cool, 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:48.720 but their toys nice. That's a bold statement. I my 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:52.840 head is off to you. But no, I I agree, 0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:56.760 I agree. I think, uh, particularly these days when you know, 0:01:56.800 --> 0:01:59.680 I used to be that hardcore gamers would look down 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:03.240 there knows at laptops and say, you know, nothing replaces 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:06.120 a desktop. And and it's still true that if you 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:09.720 want a top of the line, highest performing machine, you're 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:11.400 gonna go with a desktop. And there are gonna be 0:02:11.480 --> 0:02:13.840 gamers who do that. But there are a lot of 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:17.800 gaming laptops out there that are monsters, monsters and just 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:21.200 as expensive as your your high end desktop and and 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:25.639 just as functional. Yeah, so I I think I'm with 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:30.000 you on this one. The laptop sales bouncing back it's interesting, 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:32.760 you know, based on some of the other predictions we have, 0:02:32.840 --> 0:02:35.919 I can see that happening. Uh, I'll be really curious 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:37.200 to see what the numbers are at the end of 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:41.919 the year. Similar to that, I actually have a prediction 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:43.880 where I said, and this is kind of this is 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:45.680 one of my gimmes. You know, after doing this for 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:48.320 a few years, you start going for the easy, the 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:51.440 easy hits. But one of mine was that mobile web 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:56.040 browsing will completely outpaced desktop and laptop browsing. So if 0:02:56.040 --> 0:02:59.480 you were to look at the metrics for any given 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:02.400 webs you would see that the majority of traffic was 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:05.440 going to come in over mobile devices rather than your 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:09.480 traditional computers. And for some websites that's already true, but 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:12.000 I think it's going to become more more or less 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:15.360 a universal truth across the web. Yeah, I think I 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:18.680 think that's obvious. I think that enough people are are yeah, 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:21.919 just on their tablets, on their mobile phones. That's not 0:03:21.960 --> 0:03:25.560 gonna who who has time to turn on a whole computer? 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:28.720 And I know it can take upwards of fourteen seconds 0:03:28.720 --> 0:03:32.160 with some of my computers. Ridiculous, I know, all right, 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:33.799 So what's your like, We're not even living in the 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:38.720 incredible future. Speaking of the incredible future, touch screen party, 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:41.920 touch screens for everybody. Um, yeah, I think that, especially 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:45.240 with Windows eight, um, which Jonathan has some things to 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:50.120 say about. I have heard um that, yeah, everyone's dual screen. 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:53.040 If those of us who have dual screens, which is people, 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:55.760 from what I understand, Um, it's it's going to be 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:58.400 a touch screen and and stuff like Windows eight is 0:03:58.400 --> 0:04:00.520 going to make that easier and more into graded and 0:04:01.120 --> 0:04:03.440 so so. Even though perhaps tablets are not going to 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:09.120 be the biggest, biggest, biggest thing to ever big um yeah, yeah, Well, 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:11.360 technology is gonna be there. Beyond the fact that Windows 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:14.720 eight makes it useful, it makes it necessary. I mean 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:19.040 Windows eight is a great operating system. I genuinely like it. 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:22.560 I mean I've used it, and I genuinely like it. However, uh, 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:24.640 I much prefer it with something that has a touch 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:27.240 screen interface because because when you're yeah, when you're in 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:30.800 that tiled when you're in that tiled interface, you want 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:33.279 to touch those tiles. I mean, that's why it's designed 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:35.799 the way it is. And uh, and so I agree 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:38.320 with you. I think we're going to see touch screens 0:04:38.440 --> 0:04:41.960 integrated into more products. I mean, obviously, with things like 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:45.560 tablets and smartphones, that's the that's the user interface that's 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:47.520 accepted at this point. I mean, we've got some voice 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:51.960 interaction too, but the majority of our commands are going 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:54.440 to be through touch. But I think I agree with you. 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:56.159 I think we're going to see that as kind of 0:04:56.160 --> 0:04:59.520 a standard in other products too. I mean, we already 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:01.920 have lap tops that have touch screens, but I think 0:05:01.920 --> 0:05:05.920 that's gonna become essentially a standard feature in laptops within 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:09.359 And I'm about to, uh head off to the Consumer 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:13.200 Electronic Show. I mean not right now, but in the 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:17.440 near future, and uh it would shock me. In fact, 0:05:17.520 --> 0:05:19.680 I think this episode will air while I'm there. But 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:24.559 it would shock me if I don't see a ton 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:28.400 of laptops that have touch screens integrated directly into them. 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:31.719 It just makes sense, all right, Well, then here we go. 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:34.120 Here's a here's a Windows eight. You were alluding to 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:35.800 the fact that I had something to say about it. 0:05:36.320 --> 0:05:41.719 I think that enterprises are going to resist adopting Windows 0:05:41.720 --> 0:05:45.320 eight quickly. I think it's going to be very similar 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:50.440 to the way both consumers and enterprises resisted Windows Vista. 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:53.440 You know, a lot of them stuck with XP for 0:05:53.600 --> 0:05:56.040 a really long time. I mean that that operating system 0:05:56.160 --> 0:05:59.920 was ten years old before a lot of businesses begin 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:02.680 to look into migrating to something else. We actually just 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:06.200 got on Twindows seven like a week ago, behind the 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:09.680 curtain something. Some people were lucky and had been on 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:13.000 it for a while. Not not your tech stuff posts. 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:17.279 No no, no, we we um. We were just upgraded 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:21.200 from stone tablets to a computer that can run an 0:06:21.200 --> 0:06:25.440 operating system. And that's just me being catty. But no, yeah, 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:27.800 I agree, I agree, and I think Window sevens. But see, 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:30.800 this is another thing. One I don't think consumers are 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:34.000 going to be as reluctant. I think consumers as a 0:06:34.040 --> 0:06:37.080 whole will be a little more adventurous. And it makes 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:39.320 sense because when you're an enterprise, you know, that's a 0:06:39.480 --> 0:06:42.440 huge expense to upgrade a ton of computers. And although 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:44.760 the economy is getting better, it has not gotten so 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:46.560 much better that I think that people are going to 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:49.200 business their businesses are really going to want to spend 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:52.360 the money and time upgrading from something that that a 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:56.280 lot of us have really only just started to play with. Yeah, 0:06:56.279 --> 0:06:59.960 and there's questions of whether or not all of an 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:04.919 enterprises native UH programs will run on Windows eight. You 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:07.440 never know until you until you migrate. Stuff you don't 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:10.360 know because there's legacy programs that may only run in 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:12.920 earlier versus versions of Windows. I'm sure that some of 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:17.680 our listeners are familiar with either institutions or companies or 0:07:17.760 --> 0:07:22.040 organizations that have specific programs that will not run on 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:26.440 anything older than Windows XP, for example. So that's that's 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:28.760 an issue. On top of that, not only is it 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:33.080 expensive to upgrade across a fleet of computers, you also 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:35.880 have to train people on how to use it, and 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:40.280 that takes time and more money. So even if we 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:43.880 were to say that the Windows eight experience was absolutely 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:48.400 perfect for enterprises across the board, even then this is 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:52.080 a gimme because most companies are going to say, let's 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:55.520 wait a while longer until we can be absolutely certain 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:57.960 that we can do business as we are accustomed to 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:02.160 doing before we migrate to Windows eight. So this is 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:05.680 not a knock against the operating system. It's more of, hey, 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:08.520 guess what obvious trend I have noticed since I have 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:13.360 been alive, So again, kind of a kind of shooting 0:08:13.360 --> 0:08:15.320 fish in a barrel. I've been on the internet, I 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:20.960 read the news. It must be true speaking speaking of 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:23.040 things that are that are on the internet, in fact, 0:08:23.120 --> 0:08:27.160 the Internet of Things. This is exciting. This, This is 0:08:27.200 --> 0:08:29.760 really exciting. It It basically I mean, if you guys, 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:32.880 if you guys haven't heard of this, it basically means 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:34.800 that all of our devices are going to be connected 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:38.120 and talking to each other. Um and which is I mean, 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:41.520 we can already do most lots of I'm not gonna 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:43.920 say most things, many things, a bunch of stuff from 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:45.480 our cell phones. But but I but I think that 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:47.800 we're going to start getting the kind of functionality where 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:51.400 we can interact with our other even appliances. I mean, 0:08:51.440 --> 0:08:54.520 I mean things like like like security systems and lighting systems, 0:08:54.720 --> 0:08:57.640 and and I mean hvac like if you're on vacation 0:08:57.640 --> 0:09:02.480 and you forget to set your air conditioning down, some 0:09:02.679 --> 0:09:05.800 very basic stuff like that. Yeah. No, we've been seeing 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:08.880 little incremental steps towards this, and people who are like 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:13.199 the the bleeding edge adopters of home automation are probably 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:16.200 rolling their eyes. Of course, yes, apologies to all of 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:18.520 you guys. This is all completely old hat as of 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:21.440 like march for you right right, But but for the 0:09:21.480 --> 0:09:23.720 general public, I mean home automation is one of those 0:09:23.720 --> 0:09:25.480 things that are like, oh, that's what Bill Gates has, 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:27.920 but it's not something that you would necessarily think of, 0:09:28.000 --> 0:09:31.160 like I've I've got friends who are uh, you know, 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:33.600 early adopters. I am not an early adopter. I mean, 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:36.480 I'm a I'm a tech stuff host, and I love technology, 0:09:36.520 --> 0:09:38.880 but I do not adopt technology as soon as it 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:41.480 comes out for a couple of different years behind the 0:09:41.520 --> 0:09:45.319 kind of honestly one, I'm not filthy rich and to 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:48.920 uh too. I like my technology to work, and so 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:52.720 while I'm excited by new things, I often don't adopt 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:54.559 them because I don't want to deal with a frustration 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:57.200 for when those new things don't work out exactly as 0:09:57.240 --> 0:10:00.280 they were intended, because sometimes that happens. But the past 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:02.920 few years, we started to see some some technologies that 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:05.800 really are bringing us closer to this, and they're not 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:09.040 necessarily all integrated together from the get go, but they 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:12.640 work together. So the nest thermostat is a perfect example. 0:10:13.840 --> 0:10:17.000 Or the fact that I have a Nexus seven tablet 0:10:17.280 --> 0:10:20.760 and I've got Xbox smart glass on my tablet which 0:10:20.840 --> 0:10:23.520 lets me control my Xbox from the tablet. It also 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:28.200 displays extra information based on whatever happens to be playing 0:10:28.200 --> 0:10:31.120 on my Xbox. I can get more information, sometimes a 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:33.439 lot more information, depending on you know, how well the 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:37.320 developer has worked with smart glass. Um, those are just 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:41.200 tiny examples. Now the true Internet of Things is going 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:43.880 to encompass way more than that, where we'll get to 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:46.680 a point where we are going to have sensors that 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:50.640 are connected to the Internet and they are taking measurements 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:55.760 of all sorts of stuff, so temperature, humidity, what motion sensors, 0:10:56.200 --> 0:10:58.200 all this kind of stuff, and they're going to be 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:03.520 incorporated into practically everything we come into contact with and uh, 0:11:03.559 --> 0:11:06.160 and it will send information and it will be able 0:11:06.200 --> 0:11:08.880 to let us not only control our environment, but have 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:13.480 our environment predict what it should do based on what 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:17.240 user is in the room exactly. Which is I've used 0:11:17.240 --> 0:11:21.120 this argument once before, but if you if you were 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:24.760 to extend this to the science fiction extreme, it essentially 0:11:24.800 --> 0:11:29.080 means that one day every single person will have the 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:34.280 ability to define his or her reality because their environment 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:38.959 is going to react to their needs, wants, desires, so 0:11:39.040 --> 0:11:43.720 that we're all going to be moving through a technologically 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:48.480 idealized version of reality. Now that's not to say everything's 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:51.640 gonna be awesome, because if you remember every single holiday 0:11:51.640 --> 0:11:54.800 episode of Star Trek the Next Generation, you know, stuff 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:58.960 goes wrong. Sometimes technology doesn't work the way that we 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:04.439 want it to. Sometimes Moriarty comes to life, escapes the 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:09.440 Holidack and takes over the enterprise. That's all I'm saying metaphorically. Luckily, 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:12.280 usually Dixon, Hell or somebody is around to take care. 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:19.480 See uh impressing me. All right, okay, well let me 0:12:19.520 --> 0:12:22.440 let me go ahead and um let me do another prediction. 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:27.160 Then here's here's a prediction. So NFC near field communication, 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:31.160 that's the technology that lets us have devices that can 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:34.560 talk to each other when you tap them together. Frequently 0:12:34.640 --> 0:12:37.200 we talk about it when you have like a cell 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:41.800 phone and a program like Google Wallet that lets you 0:12:41.880 --> 0:12:45.320 pay for stuff. So like there's a special uh pad 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:47.640 that's next to a cash register, and when you tap 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:49.760 your phone to the pad, just this bump the pad 0:12:49.800 --> 0:12:52.480 and it makes it go exactly, Yeah, you've got that's nice. 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:55.560 I like that with this bump and you pay, and 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:58.440 then you've got you know, the added bonuses of things 0:12:58.480 --> 0:13:03.400 like coupons or customer rewards programs all integrated into that, 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:06.400 so that you know, just by paying using that method, 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:08.680 you reap the benefits so that you don't have to 0:13:08.800 --> 0:13:10.440 if you forget you all at home, you have your 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:12.920 smartphone on you, it doesn't matter because a your your 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:15.240 lords card and be your money is with you right 0:13:15.360 --> 0:13:17.520 right exactly and you don't have to keep track of anything. 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:22.800 It's all digital. It's awesome. Yea, everyone's happy. Here's the problem. 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:25.360 I do not think two thousand thirteen is going to 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:29.080 be the year where we see NFC widely adopted yet 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:33.280 in the United States. Um, it's it's it's popular in 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:36.080 other parts of the world, but in the United States 0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:40.280 we're still seeing a very slow adoption rate to this technology, 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:44.560 partly because it does require installing a new kind of infrastructure. 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:49.599 Usually it's not that huge but for an individual store. 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:52.680 But if you're talking about a franchise of stores across 0:13:52.679 --> 0:13:55.760 an entire country, that mounts up pretty quickly, of course, 0:13:56.160 --> 0:14:00.240 So I don't think uh. And also the other side 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:02.439 of this is that NFC would need to be incorporated 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:06.800 into weigh more handsets for it to become an attractive 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:10.200 thing for vendors to support and UH. And part of 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:12.920 the problem is that Apple has not jumped on the 0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:15.959 NFC train. Yet it may very well be that the 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:19.840 next iPhone has NFC. I have not predicted that it 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:23.680 would actually surprise me, but it could happen. But without 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:28.080 Apple getting on board, I don't think there's quite enough 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:30.440 of a tipping point there for us to see NFC 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:33.560 getting rolled out on a broad spectrum across the United States. 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:39.200 Might see a few stores incorporated, especially like forward thinking stores, 0:14:39.680 --> 0:14:42.440 but places where it makes sense. Yeah, I think that 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:44.440 the other I know, I absolutely think you're right, there's 0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:48.640 gonna be enough resistance from enough sectors that yeah, it's 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:51.160 I mean, I would love to see it get further 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:54.720 adoption because I would not mind it if it meant 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:58.560 that I could carry fewer things. Maybe maybe that's the 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:01.000 thing that if I do you this is not something 0:15:01.040 --> 0:15:02.320 we have talked about before him. But do you think 0:15:02.320 --> 0:15:06.880 if Apple is going to release a new phone next year? Yeah, 0:15:07.000 --> 0:15:12.560 considering that they've released two iPads this past year, um, 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:16.200 they might release two phones this year at least. Okay, 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:19.040 I do I think I think there will be a 0:15:19.040 --> 0:15:21.320 new iPhone. I think there has to be a new iPhone, 0:15:21.480 --> 0:15:23.760 and just like an S or a like a like 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:26.920 a five s or actual facts holding my feet to 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:30.840 the fire. Um, we asked a hard questions that textiles 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:36.160 really don't let me off the hook. Good question. You 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:38.320 know what I think. I think it would be an incremental, 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:42.520 incremental improvement. The five I think was about as dramatic 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:45.280 a departure as far as design goes as we are 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:49.360 likely to see this in this year. Yeah, I mean 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:52.320 you've got Johnny Ives up there, sir, Johnny. I'm sorry, 0:15:52.680 --> 0:15:57.920 john thank you, sir. Johnny is uh definitely, um, you know, 0:15:57.960 --> 0:16:02.240 he's he's behind the wheel and design, so it could 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:05.440 very well be that he completely revamps it. But it 0:16:05.480 --> 0:16:08.680 would that would shock me. So I do think there 0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:10.880 will be another iPhone. I don't think it will be 0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:13.920 a dramatic departure from what we have right now. It'll 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:17.680 probably have things like, you know, again, a faster process 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:22.080 or uh, it'll have maybe even maybe an even higher 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:26.200 resolution screen. Um, it'll and and I think a lot 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:29.440 of the improvements will come from the iOS side, the 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:34.640 operating system, as opposed to the hardware. But uh, we'll see. Yeah, 0:16:34.880 --> 0:16:37.600 that's a that's a good question. I did not write 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:40.680 it down, so that was all on the fly, folks, 0:16:40.960 --> 0:16:44.160 I'm just gonna hide under the table now. Well while 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:48.280 we're um, while we're talking about Apple. UM, uh, let's 0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:51.600 let's do. Let's do I'll do an Apple prediction. Uh 0:16:52.760 --> 0:16:55.000 all of my prediction. I'm sorry. I wrote everything down 0:16:55.120 --> 0:16:57.560 very vaguely, so I'm like, I have words, I can 0:16:57.600 --> 0:17:00.120 read them. Um. I think the Apple is going to 0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:02.520 hold onto its market share in the cell phone segment, 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:05.760 which which in its market share right at this current 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:09.920 moment as of October, Android had been earlier in the 0:17:10.000 --> 0:17:14.720 year at of the market share for smartphones UM as 0:17:14.720 --> 0:17:19.200 of October to drop and Apple with the five had 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:23.240 had come up to and UM. And I think I 0:17:23.240 --> 0:17:25.000 think that Apple is going to maintain that. I'm going 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:28.719 to It might be I could be completely wrong on 0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:31.520 this one. I feel like this is a strangely bold statement. 0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:34.720 It is so small, but I think I think I 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:37.680 agree that's bold. It's a bold statement. The reason why 0:17:37.680 --> 0:17:40.160 I think that is, I think those numbers definitely got 0:17:40.200 --> 0:17:43.199 a huge boost because there was a new iPhone, and 0:17:43.240 --> 0:17:46.560 every time there's a new iPhone, we're gonna see a 0:17:46.720 --> 0:17:51.280 spike adoption. UM. I think the fact that there are 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:55.159 so many handset manufacturers out there that are making Android, 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:57.720 although we've got something to say about handset manufacturers a 0:17:57.760 --> 0:18:02.320 little while. Um, but because there are so many, uh, 0:18:02.480 --> 0:18:07.320 Android will probably bounce back. But so I'm disagreeing with 0:18:07.320 --> 0:18:09.760 you a little bit. I think that Android will regain 0:18:10.119 --> 0:18:15.520 market dominance before before much more time passes in two 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:20.120 thousand thirteen. However, assuming that an iPhone six or five 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:23.560 S or whatever comes out, that's going to change again, right, 0:18:23.680 --> 0:18:26.000 I mean, I mean, it's incredible that in the United States, 0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:29.480 where we usually signed two year agreements, that people will 0:18:29.640 --> 0:18:32.400 break them just to get the new iPhone rather than 0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:35.560 skip a generation and wait for the next one. Yeah, 0:18:35.680 --> 0:18:38.160 or or even or even wait three months to wait 0:18:38.200 --> 0:18:40.560 for the next one because because it's here and it's 0:18:40.600 --> 0:18:42.720 new and it's now. Yeah, it's It's worse for US 0:18:42.720 --> 0:18:46.280 Android users though, folks, I mean, yeah, you you iPhone users. Yeah, 0:18:46.280 --> 0:18:50.960 it's bad because yeah, you well I'm looking at you, Lauren, 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:54.080 so you iPhone users, and I'm looking at my wife too, 0:18:54.240 --> 0:18:57.879 not not literally literally, which is not in the room. 0:18:57.960 --> 0:19:01.679 But but you know, they they complain about how not 0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:05.520 they Okay, some iPhone users complain and pick them all together. 0:19:05.800 --> 0:19:09.320 Some iPhone users complain about alike, Yeah, well, you know, 0:19:09.440 --> 0:19:13.639 I can't never mind. So some iPhone users complain about 0:19:13.640 --> 0:19:17.280 the fact that they that a new phone comes out 0:19:17.280 --> 0:19:19.440 each year, right, She's like, oh, but I just bought 0:19:19.440 --> 0:19:22.720 one last year. Okay, look at it from the Android 0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:26.080 user perspective, where a new phone comes out every week, right, 0:19:26.200 --> 0:19:28.680 So you go out and you buy the newest brand 0:19:29.040 --> 0:19:33.800 spanking awesome shine and then uh, something comes out the 0:19:33.800 --> 0:19:37.560 following week, possibly from the same manufacturer as the one 0:19:37.600 --> 0:19:40.520 that made the one that you bought just now, uh, 0:19:40.560 --> 0:19:43.040 and it makes it obsolete. And so we live with 0:19:43.080 --> 0:19:49.840 that day by day. So look, it's not our fault 0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:53.240 if you would, if you would drink. Also, I wish 0:19:53.240 --> 0:19:55.240 that we had pop filters in front of these microphones 0:19:55.240 --> 0:19:59.080 because now I feel really badly about what I just did. Sorry, sorry, 0:19:59.160 --> 0:20:01.200 josh Of if you should know, because I know this 0:20:01.240 --> 0:20:04.640 is the one you sit at. Um all right, so 0:20:05.200 --> 0:20:08.080 let me let me go onto this one. Uh, while 0:20:08.160 --> 0:20:12.320 Lauren recovers. Uh. So I said that the next version 0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:15.879 of the Mac operating system and the next version of 0:20:15.960 --> 0:20:19.600 iOS will bring the two operating systems even closer together. 0:20:19.640 --> 0:20:21.760 We've already started to see them start to kind of 0:20:21.800 --> 0:20:25.120 creep in on each other in that in that awesome 0:20:25.200 --> 0:20:29.159 but not creepy way creep right, Yeah, most mostly in 0:20:29.280 --> 0:20:33.520 just the integrated device and desktop laptop experience. I think 0:20:33.600 --> 0:20:35.919 I think we're gonna see continuation of that, but I 0:20:35.960 --> 0:20:40.560 think it will be yet another generation before they become 0:20:40.960 --> 0:20:45.639 practically identical. So and and this is kind of like 0:20:45.720 --> 0:20:48.560 Apple is taking an approach that's a little bit different 0:20:48.560 --> 0:20:51.080 from Microsoft, but the end result is the same, which 0:20:51.119 --> 0:20:54.280 is that you have an operating system that is easily 0:20:54.320 --> 0:20:59.240 identifiable across a suite of platforms, whether that's a smartphone, 0:20:59.400 --> 0:21:04.240 a tab it a or a laptop or even a desktop. So, uh, 0:21:04.400 --> 0:21:06.679 so Apple's going about it this way where they're just 0:21:06.760 --> 0:21:11.240 slowly getting closer and closer. Microsoft introduced a new operating 0:21:11.280 --> 0:21:13.840 system and then just applied it across the boarders like 0:21:13.960 --> 0:21:19.040 ma'am flat gone to the two different approaches, but otherwise, uh, 0:21:19.080 --> 0:21:21.920 it's going to the same goal. Okay, Laurence. So what's 0:21:21.920 --> 0:21:25.040 your next prediction? My next prediction? Um, So, we've got 0:21:25.040 --> 0:21:27.560 we've got a bunch of next generation consoles coming out. 0:21:28.160 --> 0:21:32.359 We're We've we've got rumors that the Xbox seven twenty 0:21:32.600 --> 0:21:35.919 or Durango as it's currently codenamed, is going to be 0:21:35.920 --> 0:21:38.520 coming out, and also a PS four or the Orbits 0:21:38.560 --> 0:21:41.920 as it's currently codenamed. UM. Of course the the we 0:21:42.119 --> 0:21:46.320 you already came out this year, UM what it's code 0:21:46.400 --> 0:21:51.520 named all will come on. The sales have not been 0:21:51.560 --> 0:21:54.320 as good as they had hoped. They have not, but 0:21:54.440 --> 0:21:57.359 I think I don't know. UM. I do think that 0:21:57.359 --> 0:21:59.119 it might perk up a little bit for the holiday season, 0:21:59.160 --> 0:22:01.000 but I'm not But I'm not that people are are 0:22:01.040 --> 0:22:05.159 prepared for another another new console just right this very second, 0:22:05.240 --> 0:22:10.320 especially when UM Xbox and PS three prices are so 0:22:10.680 --> 0:22:13.520 I think I think I think an Xbox owner, as 0:22:13.520 --> 0:22:15.680 an Xbox owner who has had the Xbox three six 0:22:15.880 --> 0:22:18.560 since it debuted, I think a lot of us are 0:22:19.480 --> 0:22:24.119 really ready for a new console. But I don't know 0:22:25.040 --> 0:22:28.280 what the new console would have to have to make 0:22:28.280 --> 0:22:31.480 it a must buy. Okay. And the reason why I 0:22:31.520 --> 0:22:34.159 say that is because, yes, you're going to get faster 0:22:34.240 --> 0:22:38.040 processors and you're going to get better graphics. But um, 0:22:38.080 --> 0:22:41.480 and this has said every single time there's a new console. 0:22:41.560 --> 0:22:43.360 But really, I mean, you're like, there's a point where 0:22:43.359 --> 0:22:45.040 you like, how much better does it need to be? 0:22:45.480 --> 0:22:49.480 Like for me, the graphics aren't really the reason why 0:22:49.119 --> 0:22:51.760 you play the games right now. If it's if the 0:22:51.760 --> 0:22:55.280