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Speaker 1: Happy New Year's command his family a special next man

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Speaker 1: up for you. We have Percy Butler pull up and

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Speaker 1: get us ready for the Dallas game. He talks about

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Speaker 1: that game in New Orleans when his whole family pulled.

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Speaker 2: Up and how much that meant to him.

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Speaker 1: Then one of the best running backs to ever rock

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Speaker 1: the Burgundy and Gold, Steven Davis, pulls up to talk

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Speaker 1: about his career and if he has any regrets on

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Speaker 1: the way he played the game.

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Speaker 2: All that more right now, our next man.

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Speaker 1: Up, command his family for our next man up. We

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Speaker 1: have somebody very special in year three guy, our safety

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Speaker 1: Percy Butler is in the building.

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Speaker 3: How you throwing?

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Speaker 2: I'm feeling good over the command of the family. Hey, man,

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Speaker 2: Like I said, this is your third season. What's been

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Speaker 2: different about this year than your pass two for show

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Speaker 2: winning a lot? More? Like I feel like the switch

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Speaker 2: up with the locker room Like how like I don't

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Speaker 2: have like being everybody so positional. I feel like like

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Speaker 2: I'm chopping it out with old line, you know, Like

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Speaker 2: really I was chopping it up with him, but it

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Speaker 2: was like, you know, we have conversations. It's like it

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Speaker 2: feels like you can know your teammates better, and it's

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Speaker 2: like everybody just you know, like the brotherhood just way different.

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Speaker 2: Everybody ready to ride for you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what it seemed like. Everybody says that word brotherhood.

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Speaker 1: Have you experienced anything like that? Like, I know you've

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Speaker 2: Have you experienced anything like a locker room right now?

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Speaker 2: At my college team for show, Like this feels a

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Speaker 2: lot like how we was at Uli. If you had

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Speaker 2: like well the freshman who came in like we kind

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Speaker 2: was like everybody just clinging to each other like boom.

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Speaker 2: Like I was like Boom, I thinking like I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: go home a lot because it's an hour away from

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And it just like we

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Speaker 2: like a lot of us still talk every every day

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Speaker 2: to this day. Wow. So that's kind of the family

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Speaker 2: stuff that you feel in here. Because when you hear

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Speaker 2: show feel the exact same like that.

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Speaker 1: It had to have been a little nerve wracking coming

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Speaker 1: into this season before you knew what it would be

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Speaker 1: because you got new coaching staff, that cleaning house you only.

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Speaker 2: In your third year.

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Speaker 1: Man, was there little nerves coming in here knowing that,

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Speaker 1: hey man, you really got to come in here and.

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Speaker 2: Prove yourself to the staff for show Because it was

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Speaker 2: like the first time I actually ever went through like

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Speaker 2: a coaching change. And since I've been playing football, you

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Speaker 2: was like, yeah, you know, like just thinking, like but

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Speaker 1: What was the conversations you had with dan Quin when

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Speaker 1: to all you guys. I know Joe Jr. Was very

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Speaker 1: helped kind of ease that nervousness a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Oh for me. Well, I talked to I ain't. I

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Speaker 2: talked to coach Quinn head On, I talked the coach

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And we're gonna keep it

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Speaker 1: So you got that brotherhood and camaraderie we're not only

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Speaker 2: feel like this year this the most out of learned

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Speaker 2: other stuff. So what about this year is making you

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Speaker 1: Is it those things you mentioned, just the brotherhood and

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Speaker 1: just the coaches y'all being on the same page, or

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Speaker 1: have you taken a different approach to the game this season.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm gonna say. What's helping me learn a lot

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Speaker 2: more is like coaches just you know, like Boom, he

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Speaker 2: is like keeping the gray out of things, you know

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying, And he like, you know, like this

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Speaker 2: field the NFL feel different from a college field, and

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Speaker 2: it's like Boom he talking about looking at the numbers

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Speaker 2: like a receiver lining up close. Like it just a

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Speaker 2: lot of stuff that they like, a lot of stuff

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Speaker 2: They making show like they'll tell you, like they'll say

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Speaker 1: That's very interesting too, because you're playing under a defensive

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Speaker 1: all know about Joe with Jr. And what he does,

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Speaker 1: especially with people from the secondary. Man, what have you

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And we've seen that secondary room change too. And you

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Speaker 2: Chin for show bringing that like he just a savage

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Speaker 2: you know, like Chen is a guy who even if

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like a guy who's gonna

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Speaker 2: did wrong? You know what I'm saying, And he'll ask

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Speaker 2: like it's easy to follow a guy like that, you

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Speaker 1: And then talking about following a guy you got dan Quinn. Now,

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Speaker 1: then you don't really know how things are gonna play out,

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Speaker 1: because again, dan Quinn's getting his first time as the

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: Talk about dan Quinn a little bit and how he's

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Speaker 2: I just mentioned it though. Oh yeah, like DQ bro,

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Speaker 2: he just a dog, you know, like he just like

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Speaker 2: he don't even make you feel he your head coach,

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Speaker 2: but he make you feel like he in the brotherhood too.

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Speaker 2: He make you feel like he a player. Like he's

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Speaker 2: just so cool. What up?

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Speaker 2: Like he see you? What up do you dapping you up?

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Speaker 2: He like you gotta you know, like shoot, straighten up

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Speaker 2: your tie stuff when him, you know, walk a straight line.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. He just make you so

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Speaker 2: feel welcome, you know what. I Yeah, for sure, he

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Speaker 2: fro him because you know, like he a real genuine

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Speaker 2: You know, he wants everybody to do good.

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Speaker 1: And it's funny because all y'all say the same exact thing.

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Speaker 1: And even looking at this passing defense man, we've been

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Speaker 1: top five in the league, damn there all year. Do

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Speaker 1: you feel we've seen the true potential of what this defense,

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Speaker 2: Uh? I don't say we ain't there yet. Because you know,

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Speaker 2: you know, like we we getting there, but everybody's still

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Speaker 2: I feel like we ain't hit our people potential yet,

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Speaker 2: but like it's real high, you know, like once we

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Speaker 1: I feel like it's coming to And then you add

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Speaker 1: what is he brought to this locker room for show?

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Speaker 2: Like he's just bringing like that dog mentality and he

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Speaker 2: things like you wouldn't even be looking at it and he'll

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Speaker 2: just be like he'll just call it out, you know

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying. And like his technique, like his technique

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Speaker 2: is just is crazy, Like how you could be disciplined

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Speaker 2: over and over like that just amazing, you know, And.

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Speaker 1: It was great to see him on that field and

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Speaker 1: everybody talked about for the Saints game like his homecoming,

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Speaker 1: but it was also your homecoming and your three year career.

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Speaker 2: You have never got to play in the.

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Speaker 1: Superdome before, right, never, So what was it like getting

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Speaker 2: Bro?

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Speaker 1: Because I heard you had like a hundred people in

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Speaker 2: It was great, you know, like get going back and

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Speaker 2: like being able like my people like an hour away

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Speaker 2: it's been so much fun seeing you in year three.

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Speaker 3: Brother.

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Speaker 2: I know you're gonna kill it.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait to see what you do Next Man.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate your time, bro. Oh yeah, thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: Sir and command his family our next man up, our safety, Percy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, command is family for this episode of Next Man.

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Speaker 2: That we have a special legend.

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Speaker 1: One of the best running backs ever do it in

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Speaker 1: the Burgundy and Gold nineteen ninety six fourth round draft pick,

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Speaker 1: Steven Davis welcoming into Next Man, of how you doing certain.

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm doing? Good Man, A bout yourself?

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Speaker 1: It's always great talking to the legends, especially ones that

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Speaker 1: So let's get right into it. I said it fourth

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Speaker 1: Back then, when you get that fourth round pick, when

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Speaker 1: You did not look back, man, those numbers are incredible,

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Speaker 4: the off season, It was doing the doing the weight

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Speaker 4: training and stuff like that. So every everything that we did, man,

442
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Speaker 4: it was it was repaying me for their opportunity.

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Speaker 3: I had.

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Speaker 4: I had a personal training and everything, and I would

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Speaker 4: lead rite doing everything that I needed to do to

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Speaker 4: be on the field.

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Speaker 1: You didn't just play for the rest kis you also

448
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Speaker 1: played for Carolina too, which was your hometown team. But

449
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Speaker 1: when you go back and look at your time in Washington,

450
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Speaker 1: this is the team of drafted you.

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Speaker 2: This is how you started your career.

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Speaker 1: What are your favorite memories when you think about rocking

453
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Speaker 1: that burgundy and golden playing.

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Speaker 4: For this team, have an opportunity to playing, Okay, man,

455
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Speaker 4: that was special, and you know, have an apportune going

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Speaker 4: look their stadium and be a brown and on the

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Speaker 4: same field or some of the legends that came before

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Speaker 4: before I came, you know what I mean? So that

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Speaker 4: that was that was amazing. Uh And then moving to

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Speaker 4: the new stadium and getting the first win against Arizona

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Speaker 4: in ninety ninety seven. Stuff like that, Man, sup to

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Speaker 4: small stuff like that, you know what I mean? That

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Speaker 4: that makes surprise. Being my kids was born in DC,

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Speaker 4: I'm always gone there. I'm gonna say redskin man, I'm

465
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Speaker 4: but I'm always always be one up. I love washing

466
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Speaker 4: and we usually a couple of weeks ago and to

467
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Speaker 4: a game, my wife said, you want to move back

468
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Speaker 4: up there?

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Speaker 3: And I was like, you sure, you want to move

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Speaker 3: back to d C.

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Speaker 4: But you know what I mean, I have fun memories

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Speaker 4: up there, man, and I wouldn't change the next one

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Speaker 4: in the world.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, there's no better time to be in

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Speaker 1: the d n V than right now. Wife, you might

477
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Speaker 1: be all the something, man, and we would love to

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Speaker 1: have you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, she might be on the something. But the thing is, Man,

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Speaker 4: I'm enjoying it. I got a lot of friends that's

481
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Speaker 4: Cowboys fan, and I'm with one of them now. So

482
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Speaker 4: every time, every time we played them, we always go

483
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Speaker 4: back and forth. But I'm just glad to die was

484
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Speaker 4: doing so good, man, because I mean, it's.

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Speaker 3: Been a long time coming, been a long.

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Speaker 4: Time coming, and with the guys there now, man, and

487
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Speaker 4: the quarterback, the way he's playing is a light shot,

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Speaker 4: light shot.

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Speaker 1: And you say yourself, it's been a long time coming.

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Speaker 1: You've seen highs and you've seen lows with Washington. But

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Speaker 1: now we're looking at the playoffs. We're looking at something different.

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Speaker 1: Like you said, we're going to be playing Dallas, but

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Speaker 1: then after that it's the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: When you came back, when you came to a game,

496
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Speaker 1: when you saw that environment, it saw all the things

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Speaker 1: that changed. Man, How are you feeling about the state

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Speaker 1: of the Commanders right.

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Speaker 3: Now man, I feel great.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 4: I mean not only not only did you know they

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Speaker 4: bringing all religions back and everything, but the way they

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Speaker 4: are playing on the field. You know, sometimes a couple

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Speaker 4: times I came up it wasn't it wasn't it once

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Speaker 4: you mentioned the studs as are now the fans the

506
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Speaker 4: stadium wasn't it was crowded. But now, man, it's like

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Speaker 4: I said, they're doing some special things. And I'm and

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Speaker 4: I'm proud to say yah, I belong to the organization

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Speaker 4: right now, and it's looking it's looking good.

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Speaker 3: It's looking good, looking really good.

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Speaker 1: Hey man, We're proud to have you as part of

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Speaker 1: this organization. And before I let you go, one thing

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Speaker 1: that you've been very vocal on, especially post career, is concussions,

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Speaker 1: memory loss and things of that nature and things that

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Speaker 1: you struggled with. So first question, and how are you

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Speaker 1: doing with everything? How's everything going in that regard?

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Speaker 3: But everything, don't do it, man.

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Speaker 4: You know, I got a good support system around me,

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Speaker 4: my wife, my grandkids, and you know, they joke with

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Speaker 4: me about it a lot because they say I try

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Speaker 4: to do it on purpose a lot of time. But

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Speaker 4: you know, they understand and they understand some of the

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Speaker 4: things that I'm going through my body while you know

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Speaker 4: what I mean, getting small stuff here and there. But they,

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Speaker 4: like I said, I got to support.

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Speaker 1: So when you look back on everything, man, because when

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Speaker 1: you play that game and you are relentless. Now everybody

528
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Speaker 1: can play running back, a fullback. Now everybody has the

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Speaker 1: size or brute strength to play both of those positions.

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Speaker 1: So when you look back, now, do you have any

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Speaker 1: regrets on how you play the game?

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Speaker 3: No, I wasn't doing it the other way.

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Speaker 1: We wouldn't have you do it no other way. We

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Speaker 1: wouldn't have you do it another way.

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Speaker 4: My defending spirit, the way I was trying to play football,

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Speaker 4: and the way I was brought up, I wasn't changed

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Speaker 4: nothing about it.

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Speaker 2: And we love that. Man.

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Speaker 1: We wouldn't change nothing either. And you mentioned you were

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Speaker 1: a Cowboys fan. Right now, I know you love making

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Speaker 1: that Cowboys fan upset. We have a game this Sunday

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Speaker 1: against the Dallas Cowboys. Man, talk about that game and

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Speaker 1: talk about what it was like because you got to

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Speaker 1: play those NFC East rivalry games.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: How important are those games against the Cowboys.

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Speaker 4: It gives it No, I mean it's a rivalry, but

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Speaker 4: The thing about the NFC is now everybody was a

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Speaker 4: rivalry in that in the beginning and trying Dallas it

550
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Speaker 4: was just something special. You know, we ware saw and

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Speaker 4: we lost all. But the thing is it was just

552
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Speaker 4: so prepared to and I love being in that position

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Speaker 4: play them guys, and and to be able to talk

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Speaker 4: Joe to some friends that to my friends that was

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Speaker 4: Dallas fans, it was.

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Speaker 3: It was great, man. I love it. Like I said,

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Speaker 3: a lot of people say you downa ta doing up. No,

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Speaker 3: I became.

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Speaker 4: I became a ballas where I signed got a line

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Speaker 4: with Washington redsk Amen. I can't stand I can't stand

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Speaker 4: there I brought. I can't stand them, I can't stand him.

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Speaker 1: I think we all can agree with you all that

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Speaker 1: one of my favorite pastimes is talking trash to my

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Speaker 1: friends that are Cowboys fans as well. Salute team man,

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Speaker 1: and my last question for you, we have this rookie sensation,

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Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels. He was just named the Pro Bowlers Rookie

567
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Speaker 1: year man. What a year he has had for this team.

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Speaker 1: He saw about Jayden Dale's and what you see from

569
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Speaker 1: him that impresses you so much.

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Speaker 4: How calm he is when when some people that's put

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Speaker 4: in that situation, wank where the last player of the

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Speaker 4: game against Chicago, the win against and the win to

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Speaker 4: win these past weekend. Some people when they put in

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Speaker 4: that situation, like I tell him, there's two types of pressures,

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Speaker 4: those that applied those that receive it. And he's applying

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Speaker 4: pressure every time he's out there with the opportunity to

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Speaker 4: win the game.

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Speaker 3: And I and I love it.

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Speaker 4: And he's bringing he's bringing a lot of a lot

580
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Speaker 4: of things, guys and see them watching MB area.

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Speaker 3: He's bringing up a winning attitude.

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Speaker 4: He's bringing hopes and not only hope, but the thing is,

583
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Speaker 4: never counts us out with him with that quarterback because

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Speaker 4: with time and time outs with him, got the opportunity.

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Speaker 3: But that's what he's doing.

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Speaker 4: He's taking advantage of the opportunity he's doing he's doing.

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Speaker 4: He's doing Washington great right now. I'm proud of Steven.

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Speaker 4: I think we all can agree with you on that, man.

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Speaker 4: He has had an incredible season. See thank you taking

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Speaker 4: the time to pull up on us.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: I know you're out there with the family having.

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Speaker 1: A good time, hanging out with your cowboy fan friends

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Speaker 1: and all that.

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Speaker 2: Steven Man, we appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: Just make sure when you and wife you make that

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Speaker 1: move back to the DMV, you pull up to the

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Speaker 1: studio and join us again.

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Speaker 3: No doubt, I assure you, I appreciate you for having

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Speaker 3: me all here.

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Speaker 1: Now Cavern, this family, our Next Man Up, Washington legend,

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Speaker 1: one of the best running backs to ever rock that

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Speaker 1: Burgundy and Gold. Steven David, appreciate you, brother, With no doubt,

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Speaker 1: we shoting man command this family. We hope you've enjoyed

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Speaker 1: this special New Year's.

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Speaker 2: Episode of Next Man Up.

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Speaker 1: If you want to catch our previous episode, Junion Casho's

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Speaker 1: on the Commander's YouTube page or stream the audio wherever

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Speaker 1: you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 2: I'm your host, Brian Kobert and this is Next Man Up.

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