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He 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:52.640 was coming back simply for the fact the way it ended. 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:55.400 No one has any in their career like that, you know, 0:02:55.840 --> 0:02:59.399 especially a great one like Trapp, who's considered who most considering, 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:02.480 including yourself. Uh, you know, the greatest tight end of 0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:05.240 all time. If I'm finish it, I want to finish 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:07.919 it the right way. I'm not finishing it with that 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:09.760 taste in my mouth. That's not happening. 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:12.600 Yeah for me, it's him, and if it's hearing Gronk 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:15.040 and that you know, people some people say Gronk, some 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:17.280 people are gonna say Kelsey. But if you look at 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:19.720 the consistency and the longevity in which he's played with 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:22.480 UH and with the exception of the last game, that's 0:03:22.480 --> 0:03:24.080 really the only game that you can say, well, Trav 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:26.440 didn't have it, Trave didn't come to play. He has 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:28.880 the second he had the most catches in playoff history, 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:31.519 He has the second most yard, the second most touchdowns, 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:34.840 and the consistency year in the year out the thousand yards, 0:03:34.880 --> 0:03:37.720 even leading this team in receptions. Yeah, for me, that's 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:40.480 it for me. But hey, if you say, if you 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:44.240 say Gronk, you got a very compelling argument as well, 0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:48.080 Oh Joe. The Eagles are reportedly a real threat to 0:03:48.120 --> 0:03:51.000 go after Miles Garrett. They expect Josh Wett. 0:03:50.840 --> 0:03:51.360 To move on. 0:03:51.760 --> 0:03:54.120 Josh Wetting is not the only one that's been moving on. 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:57.800 I think it's Michael Michael Williams. Williams the other d 0:03:57.880 --> 0:04:00.880 tackle he gonna be going to He'll. 0:04:00.680 --> 0:04:01.120 Be going to do. 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:08.000 Hey, listen, I saw I saw the reports today the 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:10.600 Browns are willing to negotiate with Miles Garrett. 0:04:10.600 --> 0:04:11.520 I don't want and. 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:14.200 Just what my new team gonna negotiate too, And he 0:04:14.320 --> 0:04:17.920 said no, he said no. And I'm sure they're probably 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:20.599 going to stand firm unless they get an offer that 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:22.760 they can't refuse. And I think that's what the Eagles 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:25.120 would have to do in order to get Miles Garrett 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:28.360 over there. Listen with with Howie, with Howie and and 0:04:28.360 --> 0:04:30.360 and I don't put a pass them, And I don't 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:32.600 put nothing past him based on the way things have 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:35.799 been going. You might you you miss a few pieces, 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:38.120 but you add someone like Miles Garrett to that defense. 0:04:39.160 --> 0:04:42.520 Man you command, you already jail, you already got Jaiden. 0:04:42.279 --> 0:04:45.000 Cardle, Commander's commander is going to be in play too. 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:49.320 Man Miles Garrett is unwilling to negotiate a contract extension 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:52.280 with the organization, as his agents have apparently slammed the 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:56.640 door shut on any discussions. Per Mary Kay Cabot, Listen 0:04:56.880 --> 0:05:01.400 when Mary Kay Cabot speaks about the Browns, Listen when 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:05.560 Diana Rassini when she speaks about the Jets. Jane Slater 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:13.080 speaks about the Cowboys. I hope you listening, Yeah, I 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:16.239 hope you're listening. When those young when those women speak 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:21.880 about an issue, about said teams they're plugged in. Yeah, 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:24.239 I'm talking about plugged in like a hotcomb. 0:05:24.279 --> 0:05:24.800 You know what I'm saying. 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:29.640 O't joke, Yeah, dug d Definitely. Garrett remains firm. He 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:31.880 no longer wants to be in Cleveland. 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:35.480 Look, twenty nine year old defensive player of the year, 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:39.000 twenty nine year old guys that have four consecutive fourteen 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:41.760 SAX seasons. Those guys don't grow on trees. 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:43.839 And let me ask you this, do you think there's 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:45.400 a guy in the draft that can give you that 0:05:45.480 --> 0:05:48.800 kind of production over the next five years? Okay, so 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:51.360 that doesn't matter where you are, I trade him now 0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:54.799 if I'm a defense you know, if I need something 0:05:54.880 --> 0:05:59.640 to shore up my defense, Philly said, we're good offensively, 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:03.359 we can get better defensively. And if that means, you know, 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:05.440 we trade a couple of first round draft picks, you're 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:08.320 probably gonna have to throw in a talent, a young player. Oho, 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:11.200 you probably have to do that. The Commanders, You're probably 0:06:11.240 --> 0:06:14.480 gonna have to do that. But at that point in time, Look, 0:06:14.880 --> 0:06:17.640 I don't care now about them picks because I believe Ojo, 0:06:17.880 --> 0:06:21.080 we're gonna be picking thirtieth thirty first to thirty second anyway, 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:23.120 because we're gonna be in the Championship Game or the 0:06:23.160 --> 0:06:23.679 Super Bowl. 0:06:23.800 --> 0:06:24.680 That's what I believe. 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:28.159 I know for certain, I'm not getting a Miles Garrett 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:30.360 with the thirtieth to thirty first and the thirty second pick. 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:34.960 I could, I could, but the likelihood isn't that good. 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:38.120 Normally those guys, you're Dereck Thomas and your Bruce Smith 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:40.600 and so forth and so on like that, those guys. 0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:43.440 Every once in a while you'll find a Johnny Randall 0:06:43.880 --> 0:06:47.120 that was an undrafted free agent. Oh yeah, but that 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:51.200 doesn't happen often. Right, You'll find a diamond in the rough. 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:54.480 You'll find a Terrell Davis or Shannon Sharp or Tom 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:57.840 Brady in the later rounds. But listen, don't you stake 0:06:57.880 --> 0:06:59.880 your career on trying to find diamonds. 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:02.640 In the ruw? Oh no that you go belly up. 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:03.880 You go belly up. 0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:10.800 But look, if all depends on Cleveland, what's your asking price? 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:13.640 We know this, O Joe, it's gonna take two ones. 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:16.480 Now you're gonna add. If it's this draft, you're gonna 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:19.520 have to pick swap. So you have to ay, you 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:21.600 gonna have to give up your pick, because they keeping there. 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:24.400 You have to give up this first year pick and 0:07:24.560 --> 0:07:27.800 next year's first round pick, probably a second and a 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:33.200 fourth right or second and a third and probably a player. 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:37.480 Mm hmmm. 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:41.280 Feelings like we ain't got no problem. Phelis say, look, 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:43.440 we picking thirty second. Guess what we hope to be 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:47.040 picking thirty second next year and y'all could have it. 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:48.560 Y'all canna have them picks? Yep? 0:07:48.680 --> 0:07:52.160 Most definitely, long as long as we're getting the results. 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:57.760 Long as we get Miles Garrett. Uh what Jalen Hurds. 0:07:57.800 --> 0:08:00.640 The year six you got Davante and here in year 0:08:00.840 --> 0:08:03.960 five you got a j Yep, man. 0:08:03.800 --> 0:08:06.160 Bro, I'm not worried about that. We're gonna be good. 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:09.200 I'm not even I'm not even I'm not even concerned 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:12.800 about those draft picks. Knowing where we are, what we have, 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:19.440 who we are, take them, take them. You can't you 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:26.360 can't have Jayleen Carter, you can't have uh uh, Michael Queen, y'all, Michael, 0:08:26.560 --> 0:08:34.120 you can't have him. Mitchell Kenya, Mitchell, you can't have him. 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:36.720 Everything else, Oh Joe is in play is on the 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:41.360 table line. Yeah, yeah for Miles Garrett. 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:47.959 Yeah, you just said, put Miles Garrett with Jayleen Carter. 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:54.839 And Jordan Davis, boy man, slap me and slap me 0:08:54.880 --> 0:08:56.199 and slap me and call me silly. 0:08:56.320 --> 0:09:03.120 And and you got Nolan Smith Junior. Yeah, hey, young fella, 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:09.080 only two thirty. But he Hey, he can go pay bag. 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:11.920 We're here. 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:20.440 Hey, I heard I saw him dropping offensive lineman at 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:24.320 two thirty. He hitting three thirty guys three thirty. I 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:26.080 know they talk about it felt like trees falling on 0:09:26.120 --> 0:09:29.760 the head. Oh, Joe, I'm talking about he in the grill. 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:34.080 I'm talked about. Hey, he putting this helmet under their chin. 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:42.080 I'm buckling them at two thirty. So but Miles for 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:45.640 an opportunity to get Miles Garrett. Guys like this o 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:50.240 Jo don't become available at the age of twenty nine. 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:54.400 Normally they have issues off the field issues. They're coming 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:55.600 off multiple injuries. 0:09:55.640 --> 0:09:56.120 Injuries. 0:09:56.200 --> 0:10:01.559 Yeah, he's uninjured, he's clean off the feet. Yeah, that's 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:03.719 the kind of guy that you're willing. That's the guy 0:10:03.880 --> 0:10:06.280 that's not no rolling the dice. But that's the guy 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:08.920 that you says, Okay, we'll give up two first rounds, 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:10.760 we'll give him a second, we'll give up a third. 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:15.280 And a young talented player. To get a guy like that, yeah, absolutely, 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:17.720 water on, go ahead. 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:23.520 But Cleveland's gonna try everything chat to try to keep 0:10:23.640 --> 0:10:27.120 keep Miles Garrett. They think it's about money. Miles Garret's like, bro, 0:10:27.240 --> 0:10:29.160 y'all just gave me a one twenty five. I'm straight 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:31.520 on the money issue. The problem is here is not 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:35.680 the money. It's the winning. I got money, I'm getting money, 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:39.679 but I'm miserable. Week five were out of playoff contentions, 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:42.480 we got no hope, we got no quarterback, and I 0:10:42.480 --> 0:10:44.319 don't really want to waste another one a year or 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:46.800 two to try to build this thing back up. He's 0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:48.240 made it abundant. Li clear he don't want to be 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:50.800 a part of a rebuilding process. He wants to go 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:53.320 somewhere that gives him a legitimate chance in order to 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:56.120 win the championship, because that's what it's about. He's been 0:10:56.160 --> 0:10:58.360 at all Pro, he's been defensive player. 0:10:58.200 --> 0:10:58.600 Of the Year. 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:00.440 Now he's like, man, let me get the let me 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:03.280 let me, let me go play meaningful ball games. There's 0:11:03.400 --> 0:11:07.880 nothing like playing meaningful ball games in December and January 0:11:07.960 --> 0:11:11.240 with a chance to play in February. So it's not 0:11:11.400 --> 0:11:14.280 the money. I mean, yeah, they're gonna they would be 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:16.920 willing to make him the highest paid, but he's gonna 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:18.560 be mentioned because they're not gonna win. 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:20.360 Yeah, m hm. 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:22.200 And you you would, you would think for all he's 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:24.520 done so far in Cleveland, he's done everything he can. 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:27.599 They know, the team knows that, the organization knows this. 0:11:27.720 --> 0:11:30.080 In the rebuilding stage, why would you keep a player 0:11:30.120 --> 0:11:32.640 like that? Why would you go to keep a player 0:11:32.720 --> 0:11:35.560 like that knowing that he can do you no justice 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:38.760 and competing for a championship. Allow him to go while 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:41.720 you rebuild and do your thing, get some assets and 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:44.240 picks for him and start over. 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:46.080 I agree. 0:11:47.600 --> 0:11:49.520 We say that now with your cause, we don't he 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:51.480 if we the GM of Cleveland, we ain't trying to 0:11:51.520 --> 0:11:52.280 let him go either. 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:56.120 Oh yeah, right right, me and you, me and you 0:11:56.200 --> 0:11:58.680 said that that that's not that's not the biggest piece 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:00.520 of the puzzle that we got there. We can trade 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:02.400 right nod. 0:12:02.520 --> 0:12:04.199 Hey come on, Miles, Hey bro, we're gonna make you 0:12:04.240 --> 0:12:06.680 the highest paid. We got thirty five million per year. 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:09.840 We're willing to give you five years, one hundred and 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:13.040 seventy five billion dollars because that's what we feel worth 0:12:13.520 --> 0:12:16.200 and we're willing to gu we're willing to fully guarantee 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:20.600 one hundred million of that. Nah, I think I'm gonna 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:23.480 have to go on mosey all out the door because 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:25.800 guess what, somebody else will give me that too. 0:12:25.920 --> 0:12:27.280 And we got a chance to win. 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:30.680 Yep, which is much better because I haven't got enough money. 0:12:33.480 --> 0:12:36.960 Well, you can't ever have enough money? Oh yeah, I 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:37.480 know what you mean? 0:12:37.920 --> 0:12:39.240 Is that no such thing as enough? 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:42.680 But I'm doing pretty well for myself. You'd like to 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:43.320 be doing better. 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:46.160 I mean if Elon Musky worth four hundred and fifty 0:12:46.160 --> 0:12:48.240 billion and he tried and still trying to get contracts 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:51.520 federal government contract yeah, me, and you ain't got no billions. 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:54.160 So we definitely, we definitely tried to make ends meet 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:55.360 you right right there. 0:12:56.640 --> 0:13:01.480 But uh, yeah, Miles, I understand once you got on 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:05.800 the stomach so much, and you know, money, money, money, money, Okay, 0:13:05.800 --> 0:13:08.199 when I got money, and then here I am, I'm 0:13:08.240 --> 0:13:10.360 going out there. What I put my body through to 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:11.839 get ready to make sure I go? 0:13:13.640 --> 0:13:14.679 Is that that? Quite? Who is that? 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:17.040 What are you looking at? 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:17.720 Oh? 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:20.120 I'm looking at this, uh this chat. We're trying to 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:24.240 get uh trying to get tank plugged in are we 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:31.960 going to go ask yet? Okay, it's easy to say, oh, 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:37.280 Jo money, money, money, But when you're competitive and you 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:40.319 see everybody else getting an opportunity to play meaning for football, 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:43.480 you see everybody else playing in AFC and NFC Championship game, 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:45.600 they playing in Super Bowl, and here I am. I'm 0:13:45.600 --> 0:13:48.079 one of the premium players. I don't know what else 0:13:48.080 --> 0:13:50.839 he can do. And we don't have no chance. We 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:54.640 got no chance whatsoever. We're playing meaningful games in December. 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:58.600 We're not playing anything meaningful in January. My see, damn 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:01.319 there in week ten, I'm already thinking about what I'm 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:08.679 doing no season. So with that being said, I understand 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:11.960 Miles is frustration. He's had it up to here wherever 0:14:12.000 --> 0:14:15.280 here is, or his six four six by himself. He 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:17.199 just wants to move on and have an opportunity to 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:20.480 play meeting for football in December and January. And I'm 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:22.720 not so sure Cleveland can provide that over the next 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:24.800 two years. And he says, I want to be somewhere 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:27.640 where I can compete for a championship, and I don't 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:28.640 believe that's in Cleveland. 0:14:30.080 --> 0:14:36.000 Yeah, let the man go on by this business baby, 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:39.160 are you still waiting? You come on write that down. 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:41.480 He come on down the street, know the Cincinnati if 0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:41.880 you want to. 0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:54.080 Many think that Ben Johnson, the former offensive coordinator for 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:57.480 the Detroit Lions, took an unnecessary shot at Jerry Goff earlier. 0:14:57.760 --> 0:14:58.960 Take a listen to the sound. 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:06.400 Out of structure, the off schedule, the creation. That's that's 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:09.000 what stands out the most because that's really the way 0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:10.320 that this league's going right now. 0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:12.920 It seems like as much. 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:14.760 As you want to make it pure progression one to 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:17.960 two to three, there's just too much variety. The pass 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:21.120 rush is coming down, and to have an athlete like 0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:24.960 Caleb extend to play and potentially find it explosive down 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:27.760 the field, that's what That's what gets me going a 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:31.640 little bit. I get excited thinking about that because I 0:15:31.640 --> 0:15:33.960 haven't really been around that since I've been in the 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:35.160 in the in the league, but I've seen. I've been 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:37.000 on the other side, and i have experienced, and it's 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:39.680 demoralizing when you're on the other side and you're watching 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:40.880 that happen to your defense. 0:15:42.360 --> 0:15:43.200 I got no shot. 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:44.960 Yeah, I don't think it's a shot. 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:46.000 I don't think it's true. 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:48.360 Obviously, listen, listen, I don't you think it is. 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:51.480 No, it's the truth. Caleb Williams can make off script 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:51.920 to play. 0:15:52.200 --> 0:15:53.640 Oh yeah, absolutely absolutely. 0:15:53.800 --> 0:15:55.760 This is there's a there's a handful of quarterbacks in 0:15:55.760 --> 0:15:57.880 the NFL that can't do that, and the fact that 0:15:57.920 --> 0:16:00.840 Ben Johnson's never been around a quarterback that can extend 0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:03.840 plays and playoff script. Most of the time, when things 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:06.680 break down, you go through progression one, two, three is 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:08.720 not there most quarterbacks. 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:11.040 That's a sack for Jered Golf. Yes, you know, he's 0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:12.080 not a mobile quarterback. 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:16.680 He's your prototypical back quarterback, go through his stuff, check 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:19.960 down if it's not there. Kayleb Williams can extend plays 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:24.320 and therefore make the play calling that much more better 0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:27.160 for Ben Johnson, who's already creative, so he can be 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:28.280 able to do that much more. 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:31.480 Look at how good Golf was with Ben Johnson calling. 0:16:31.320 --> 0:16:34.600 The plays, so imagine what he can do with Kayleb 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:38.080 Williams with the creativity from that aspect. And if things 0:16:38.080 --> 0:16:39.840 don't work out, well, you know it, I ain't got 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:42.200 the trip because I got Cayler Williams, who's the dude 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:44.320 threat and can use his legs and extend plays for 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:46.600 me and make something happen when there's nothing there. 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:49.640 But that's the and that's the thing he was asking 0:16:49.640 --> 0:16:52.160 a question. He says he's looking forward. Told them with 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:54.000 a guy that can make plays off. 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:55.280 Script, right, not wrong with that? 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:57.440 And he can. That's what Caleb Williams can do. He 0:16:57.440 --> 0:16:58.680 can make plays off script. 0:16:59.000 --> 0:17:02.360 You know, you base when you diagram the play, that's 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:03.600 the play that's got to get run. 0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:06.240 Because that's not what Jared god fels. And that's okay, 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:09.720 that's okay, there's nothing wrong with that. They make it 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:13.040 seem like what damn? So what are the differences? 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:17.400 So anybody thinks he's taking a shot at Jared. If 0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:20.200 you watch Jared GoF play and you watch Kayler Williams place, 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:24.520 what do you think Some of the differences are ability 0:17:24.520 --> 0:17:27.439 to make plays outside the pocket, his scrambling ability, his 0:17:27.480 --> 0:17:31.000 ability to get our script, ability to change arm angles 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:40.360 or arm slaps, okay out of you know, Hey, what's 0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:42.399 the difference between what's you? What's what's One of the 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:47.600 main differences is between sa Quon and and Derrick Henry. 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:50.360 Sat Quan's a little bit more shifty, a little bit 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:53.119 more elusive. What you cong runs with a little bit 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:55.520 more power. That's not taking a shot at either one 0:17:55.520 --> 0:18:01.720 of them. That's just not your what's the difference between 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:03.639 McCaffrey and this one. When McCaffrey it is, you know, 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:05.600 you can put him in the slot, you line them 0:18:05.640 --> 0:18:08.720 up outside, better catch the ball out of the backfield. 0:18:09.200 --> 0:18:11.800 A lot of times they took Dare Henry out, a 0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:13.480 lot of times they took sa Quaa. 0:18:13.280 --> 0:18:18.080 On third down. They don't take see Mac out on 0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:20.000 third down. So that's not a knock. 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:23.680 We gotta just because you're accentuating the differences, that don't 0:18:23.720 --> 0:18:26.720 mean you're you're hating or you're knocking the other guy. 0:18:26.800 --> 0:18:30.600 You're just accentuating the differences between two said players. 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:31.280 Right. 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:36.359 I mean, but you know, idea is so yo man a. 0:18:38.160 --> 0:18:40.160 Now everybody feel like you're taking a shot at the man. 0:18:40.160 --> 0:18:41.680 I don't think the man was taking a shot at. 0:18:41.840 --> 0:18:45.480 Listen, A coach like that has to be able to 0:18:45.480 --> 0:18:49.520 explain the differences and what he experienced one place and 0:18:49.560 --> 0:18:51.680 what he's going to experience that a new place based 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:55.000 on that specific position without it being seen in disrespect. 0:18:55.280 --> 0:18:57.600 Yeah, because honest truth. 0:18:57.520 --> 0:18:59.080 Right O Joe. 0:18:59.160 --> 0:19:02.840 He also said he would sacrificed both testicles for the 0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:05.640 Bears to win the Super Bowl. Already got three kids, 0:19:05.880 --> 0:19:07.000 What would you sacrifice? 0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:09.680 First of all, if you get ready, you you you 0:19:09.680 --> 0:19:11.439 ain't gonna get No, you ain't gonna get no wood. 0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:14.880 Yeah, well, well you can get some wood. You don't 0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:16.840 need the testicles to get No, no, no, you do. 0:19:19.240 --> 0:19:20.760 So how you gonna get how you're gonna get a 0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:23.760 Put a popsicle stick up there and hold it like 0:19:23.760 --> 0:19:26.920 you got a splint. How are you gonna get a direction? Oh? 0:19:26.960 --> 0:19:29.080 You take you take you know, you could take out, 0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:32.119 you could take out? What allows you to have kids? 0:19:32.560 --> 0:19:36.359 Do that? So? So no, he said, he having testicle 0:19:36.400 --> 0:19:39.320 to remove? He said, oh yeah, oh. 0:19:39.240 --> 0:19:41.120 Yeah, I don't know about that. I don't know about 0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:43.200 that because yeah, I I don't tell nobody. 0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:46.479 Hey, I got kid. I'm keep in mind he gave 0:19:46.560 --> 0:19:47.560 him to me for a reason. 0:19:48.000 --> 0:19:49.720 Yeah, yeah he did. He didn't want me to have 0:19:49.920 --> 0:19:50.520 he win the game. 0:19:50.560 --> 0:19:52.480 To me, you're right, listen, you're right by that. I'm 0:19:52.480 --> 0:19:54.280 with you when you're right now listen, I'm picking up 0:19:54.280 --> 0:19:56.960 what you're putting down. Speaking of kids, I want one more? 0:19:57.040 --> 0:19:57.960 What you think huh? 0:19:58.840 --> 0:20:02.600 I want? I don't know, o, Joe, I ain't got 0:20:02.600 --> 0:20:05.560 no break hey you butou bey we Damn I did 0:20:05.720 --> 0:20:07.720 go back to ESPN because then you you talking about 0:20:07.720 --> 0:20:10.480 another kid they called money. I ain't got no bread 0:20:10.560 --> 0:20:10.760 like that. 0:20:11.440 --> 0:20:14.439 No, I'm just saying, but listen, I'm listening. I'm not 0:20:14.440 --> 0:20:16.320 trying to be funny. I've always been humble. You know, 0:20:16.359 --> 0:20:19.000