1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Here's in 2 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: the bonus with Doug Gottlieb. 3 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 2: What up, Doug Gottlieb Show. In the bonus Fox Sports Radio, 4 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:17,479 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app Well, come in. Did you like college football 5 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 2: this weekend? Did you like Alabama going on the road 6 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 2: to Florida State. Did you like Auburn going on the 7 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 2: road and beating Baylor? Did you like all the other 8 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 2: true road games Texas taking on Ohio State in the shoot, 9 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 2: Notre Dame played at Miami, And uh, there's there's a 10 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 2: bunch of stuff to it. This is a college basketball coach, 11 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 2: and I'm I understand we're at a lower level of 12 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 2: college basketball than than the Dukes, the Kansas Is, the Carolinas, 13 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 2: et cetera. And of course in college football we'd be 14 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 2: at a much lower level even though we're Division one. 15 00:00:55,640 --> 00:01:00,639 Speaker 2: There's levels to Division one. But but the the art 16 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 2: of scheduling is literally an art. And it's great to 17 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 2: say we're gonna go out and play somebody. The problem 18 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:15,559 Speaker 2: is there's a reason that SEC teams forever would play 19 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 2: neutral side games, wouldn't play true road games. It's really difficult. 20 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 2: It's very difficult matter of fact, people are going on 21 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 2: the SEF series dead blah blah blah, like okay, Well, 22 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 2: I saw LSU go into Clemson take on a team 23 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 2: that returned their starting quarterback, one of the toughest plays 24 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 2: to play in the country, and dominate the game running 25 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: the football. And then I saw Auburn going and play 26 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:45,199 Speaker 2: play and beat Baylor. Like yeah, Alabama loss first time 27 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 2: starter going on the road against the guy who, going 28 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 2: into last season was supposed to be the number one 29 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 2: overall pick as a quarterback, and Miami's got dudes. So 30 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 2: I guess here's the thing, the art of scheduling, And 31 00:01:58,480 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 2: a lot of people are like, well, why do you 32 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 2: play Sisters of the Poor? Why do you play these 33 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 2: these games? Why do you pay a million five to 34 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 2: get a win? Because you need it to get everybody 35 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 2: reps and to get everybody's confidence. Because when you lose 36 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 2: your confidence, you start questioning the coaching, you start questioning yourself. 37 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 2: That doesn't mean that Alabama's gonna lose your confidence. But again, 38 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 2: like this is if you're Alabama and everybody's biggest game, 39 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 2: you have Wisconsin comments, Why though, fuck are you playing 40 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 2: Florida State to open the season. You set your coach 41 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 2: up to fail. You set them up to fail. Now, 42 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 2: I don't know when that game was was on the 43 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 2: books from I really don't, but I can tell you 44 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 2: that it's a fucking terrible scheduling. Nobody else will talk 45 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 2: about this in uh in college football. I will. It's 46 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 2: not that fucking hard. Okay, I'll give you an example. Okay, 47 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 2: Nick says, last year they opened up at Middle Tennessee State, 48 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 2: then they played Texas at home, who they lost to. 49 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 2: Then they played South Florida, who was shitty on the road. 50 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 2: Then they played SEC play and the only other non 51 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 2: SEC game they played was ut Chattanooga later in the year. 52 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 2: Like really, yeah, go to twenty twelve. Check out twenty 53 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 2: twenty two. Excuse me, check out their schedule. They opened 54 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 2: with Utah State, then they played Texas, then they played Monroe. 55 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 2: Later on the year they played Austin p You open 56 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 2: up with a game to get your confidence. Now, that 57 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 2: hasn't always been the case. Right back in twenty one, 58 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 2: I think this was the COVID year. They opened up 59 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 2: in Miami, a game they won. Miami wasn't very good. 60 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 2: I think they were supposed to be pretty good but 61 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 2: fell part of the time. They played Mercer, they did play, 62 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 2: they played Southern miss and they played New Mexico State. 63 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 2: Go to twenty nineteen Duke, NC State, Southern Miss, Western Carolina. 64 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 2: The point is that it's pretty obvious that the Alabama method, 65 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 2: which is tried and true, is for the most part, 66 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 2: unless you know you got a squad open with a 67 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 2: home game where you're gonna get a win like last year, 68 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 2: Western Kentucky, South Florida, then to Wisconsin before you play Georgia. Okay, 69 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 2: play one hard game in the non conference this year 70 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 2: at Florida State, terrible scheduling, Louisiana, Monroe, Wisconsin, at home 71 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 2: East Illinois. They still have to go to Georgia, still 72 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 2: have to go to Missouri, still have to go to 73 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 2: South Carolina, still have to go down the Planes. And 74 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 2: at home they have LSU Tennessee and Vandy who beat 75 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 2: them last year. That game was lost in scheduling, and 76 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 2: I don't know who scheduled this game, but they probably 77 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 2: should be fired today. 78 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: Be short to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb 79 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: Show weekdays a three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox 80 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: Sports Radio in the iHeartRadio. 81 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 2: App let's get to the Foxs and now what say 82 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 2: every Day this time that Doug Gottlieb show in the 83 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 2: Bonus podcast, play for your portion the previous show, Fox 84 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 2: Sports Radio, Fox Sports One. Here's Colin Calher talking about 85 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 2: Bill Belichick and North Carolina football. 86 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 3: Belichick has become the chef that won't change the menu. 87 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 3: Bill in his career, if you count the Browns, the Patriots, 88 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 3: and Carolina last night without Tom Brady has averaged nineteen 89 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 3: points in his career. Forget the record, which is unimpressive, 90 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 3: sub five hundred. He doesn't move the ball. He doesn't 91 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 3: take offense seriously enough. Change the menu, update the weight, 92 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 3: staff to new menu. It's a new area of town 93 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 3: and there are all the hipsters around you are taking 94 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 3: offense seriously. It feels like Bill has moved into a 95 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:59,119 Speaker 3: time in his life where he just wants to work 96 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 3: with coaches he's comfortable with. Then he pull he's comfortable with. 97 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 3: You know, there was a years and years ago on 98 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 3: this show, I think it was Urban Meyer had said 99 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 3: he had talked to Bill, you know, and at one 100 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 3: point Bill had said, you know, there's certain players I'm 101 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 3: just not going to coach anymore. That is the opposite 102 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 3: of the early Bill Belichick. You took guys that could 103 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 3: be a little crazy. You took guys that didn't make 104 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 3: it comfortable. You had to be a mentor to some 105 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 3: of the coaches. They didn't know your system. But that's okay. 106 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 3: That is how you grow in life. With a little discomfort. 107 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 3: You have to bark. Occasionally things go a little sideways. 108 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 3: I just I had concerns coming into this thing. Is 109 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 3: that TCU came in with a staff that had been around, 110 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 3: they knew college football. But this was way worse than 111 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 3: I thought. 112 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. Again, I respectful to Colin like their offense was 113 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 2: fine in the first drive, but what happens after first 114 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 2: drive is guys have to make plays. Quarterback doesn't appear 115 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 2: put good enough. I don't think they have good enough talent. 116 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 2: It's hard when you bring in seventy five new guys, 117 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 2: seventy five smart wins. They're smart guys, They're not the 118 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 2: only ones competing for it. They also played a team that, 119 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 2: let's be honest, like TCU a couple of years ago, 120 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 2: plays for national championship. Then they're down, like they those 121 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 2: guys know what they're doing, they know the players, they 122 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 2: know the market. It's just it's a completely different world 123 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 2: from the one they operated in. It doesn't mean that 124 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 2: eventually they won't figure it out. But you know, Michael 125 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 2: Lombardi's never done this at the college level. He's their GM, 126 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 2: so the evaluations are a little bit different. I don't 127 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 2: think they didn't score because there's something wrong with their 128 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 2: offensive game plan. They just turned the ball over. It 129 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 2: weren't very good. That was the problem with their offensive 130 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 2: game plan. Here's Dan Byer filling in from yesterday with 131 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 2: Monte Bilago's talking about Arch Banning. 132 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 4: For those of us who had CDs, this was track one, right, 133 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 4: I want we know the hits are track two, Track three, 134 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 4: track four. That's what's coming up. And on a great album, 135 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 4: you could listen to song after song after song. This 136 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 4: was track one on arch Manning's album. And I just 137 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 4: feel everybody is now taking a victory lap. We don't 138 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 4: know the type of quarterback he's going to be. We 139 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 4: don't know if arch Manning is going to be more 140 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 4: like Peyton, more like Eli, or more like his grandpa, 141 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 4: who he's named after the way that he ran the football. 142 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 4: He seems more like Archie than he does of Eli 143 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 4: or Peyton. By the way, Eli threw tons of interceptions, 144 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 4: would lead the league in the NFL in interceptions. You 145 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 4: know why, because he also didn't have a conscience that 146 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 4: had the confidence enough that I'm gonna make these throws. 147 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 4: I've felt Eli Manning had made Odell Beckham who he 148 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 4: is because there were eighty percent of the quarterbacks of 149 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 4: the NFL that would never make the throws that Eli 150 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 4: would be willing to make. And then you have Peyton 151 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 4: who was able to dissect defenses through him being basically 152 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 4: a coach on the field and ends up winning two 153 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 4: Super Bowl titles. They are all these different ways to 154 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 4: go because you have one weekend in the spotlight against 155 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 4: the defending national champions, against the new defensive coordinator. And 156 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 4: by the way Arch could play this year, Arch could 157 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 4: play next year, and as crazy as it sounds, could 158 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:19,559 Speaker 4: play the next year after that if you want to 159 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 4: before going to the National Football League. That's what's ahead 160 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 4: for Arch Manning. It's not just one game, and I 161 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 4: feel we need to pump the brakes. And if you're 162 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,959 Speaker 4: if you're like me, by now, buy your stock now 163 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 4: when it dipped after this game, because it's never ever 164 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 4: going to be as low as it was after Saturday. 165 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 2: I actually I'm gonna agree with Dan Byer on this one. 166 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 2: From a from from this perspective, you know, I don't 167 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 2: think he's Prownnie. I think he got sped up. I 168 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 2: think he got pressured. I think he got confused. I 169 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,719 Speaker 2: think he looked like an experienced quarterbacks. That's really what 170 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 2: I was. Now. I am taking people's word for it 171 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 2: that there's a top end there that is missing so far. 172 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 2: But I'm willing to say, hey that like first game 173 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 2: of the season, it's terrible scheduling. And maybe what it 174 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 2: does for Texas's those guys, the guys that are arrogant, 175 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 2: it levels them out. But for other guys trying to 176 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 2: figure out, you're like, well maybe we're not any good 177 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 2: starts questioning. So you do need to gain your confidence, 178 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 2: and I think Texas will soon. Here's Ben Miller talking 179 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 2: about Alabama football. 180 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 5: Would Nick sib And actually leave television and go back 181 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 5: to Alabama and save the Crimson Tide? Is it true? 182 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 4: Now? 183 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 5: Is it fun to imagine that? Absolutely fun to imagine that? Absolutely? 184 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 5: One are the chances I'll say the chance is five percent. 185 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 5: There's a five percent chance that Nick Saban says, I 186 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,719 Speaker 5: gotta go back. I gotta save Alabama. I built this 187 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,079 Speaker 5: thing up. We can't have it torn down right now. 188 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 5: And I'm gonna leave TV and I'm gonna go in there. 189 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 5: And that's it. But the legend of Nick Saban, now 190 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 5: we we'll have to get vanned the one leg Abama 191 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 5: man on to go over this. But the legend is 192 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 5: so big. He's become like Elvis in the state of Alabama. 193 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 5: Like there's sightings of Nick Saban and people have said, well, 194 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:16,559 Speaker 5: I saw Sabin, you know, so and so he was 195 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 5: kind of near the campus. You see this? 196 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: Was that mean? 197 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 5: Is there something there? And you know someone will say, oh, 198 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 5: I saw him at the gas station or something like that. 199 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 5: Here's the thing though about Nick Saban. He's still getting 200 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 5: paid five hundred thousand dollars a year by the university. 201 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 5: They gave him this golden parachute. Or even though he's 202 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 5: no longer coaching, he's like the coach emeritis. 203 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't, I just I don't all the talk 204 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 2: of like Calin de boor like what are we even 205 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 2: talking about? Honestly? How have we become message board fan? 206 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 2: It's his first game of his second year, shit was 207 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 2: really really hard. And yeah, they won nine games last year. 208 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 2: In his first year, it is not easy. And you're 209 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 2: following a guy who this is why it's the job 210 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 2: that you shouldn't take, but everybody feels like you have to. 211 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 2: By the way, Nick Saban's first year, they went seven 212 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 2: and six. Granted weren't coming off of all the consecutive 213 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 2: double digit wins. But I think the bigger point is 214 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 2: that this SEC, this is there's a reason Saban got out. 215 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 2: There's a reason Saban got out. It's SEC is way 216 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 2: harder than it's ever been, way more difficult than it's 217 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 2: ever been. And you know what was their losses last year? 218 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 2: They lost at Vanderbilt. That was the hard one. That 219 00:12:56,080 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 2: was the one you can't lose. They lost at tennis See, 220 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 2: they lost at Oklahoma. I don't know, Like the Vandy 221 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 2: one is hard to swallow. You lose a game the 222 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 2: way they lost it on the road to Florida State, Like, okay, Well, 223 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 2: our impression of Florida State is they weren't any good 224 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 2: because they won two games last year. But again, college 225 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 2: football's changed. You throw a bunch of money and this 226 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 2: is a Florida state team, though, and undefeated in the 227 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 2: regular season the year before, so which program they're playing. 228 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 2: I just I don't even like the idea of opening 229 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 2: the discussion. You're not firing him. It costs like one 230 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 2: hundred and thirty million dollars to fire him. You're not 231 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 2: doing it. Let the guy coach see if you get 232 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 2: it done. Give him four years. If he doesn't get 233 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,839 Speaker 2: better after four years, then you move on. That's what 234 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 2: the Fox said say. 235 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb 236 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox 237 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 238 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 2: Let's find out who What's annoying? 239 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 6: Jason Stewart. 240 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:01,959 Speaker 1: And it's your annoying. 241 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 7: So Tom Brady, the Legend the Goat. Tom Brady was 242 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 7: on with Chris Collinsworth on a PFF podcast. He said 243 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 7: something that could be if if picked up by the 244 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 7: a certain outlet could be presented as kind of racist, 245 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 7: racist adjacent you know. He's like, yeah, you know, people 246 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 7: just aren't The position just isn't as mentally equipped now 247 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 7: as it was back then. They starts getting into running quarterbacks. 248 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 7: But anyways, what I found interesting about the podcast was 249 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 7: this little tidbit about what he watches in a quarterback 250 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 7: after a touchdown pass. 251 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 8: That's what I look for all the time when a 252 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 8: quarterbacks throws a touchdown pass. I actually watched to see 253 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 8: who he goes and celebrates with, because what did I do? 254 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 8: I looked for my offensive and every time I went 255 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 8: down and celebrated in the end zone with my teammates, 256 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 8: every time, I wanted everyone to feel like they were 257 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 8: part of the success. I told the lineman, we're all 258 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 8: running to the end zone and we're celebrating as a team, 259 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 8: because I think that's way more intimidating than a quarterback 260 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 8: doing his six shooter guns and pointing up in the 261 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 8: crowd and doing all that other bullshit. That's very self promotional, 262 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 8: but it's not about winning, and I think winning in 263 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 8: football is about a team always a team attitude. 264 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 2: First, see you, what are you annoyed by? 265 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 7: I'm annoyed by the fact that he makes us two choices. 266 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 7: Either your six shooter guy, look at me guy, or 267 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 7: you're running into the end zone with your team. I've 268 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 7: always been in the opinion that when I see like 269 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 7: a Baker Mayfield running into the team, running into the 270 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 7: zone with the team. I think that's unbecoming of a 271 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 7: professional quarterback. A third option that Tom Brady did not 272 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 7: mention that you've seen quarterbacks for decades do is they 273 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 7: throw the ball and they walk off the field, let 274 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 7: the receivers and whoever celebrate. I think that's badass, So 275 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 7: I'm not sure why he left that one out. I 276 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 7: do agree the whole six shooter thing look at me 277 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 7: is off putting. But I'm also I think it's just 278 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 7: unbecoming to run into the end zone and celebrate with 279 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 7: your team if you're a quarterback. 280 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 2: I'm actually with Tom on this one, but I agree 281 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 2: with you. It's it's not an either or. There are 282 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 2: other ways in which you cannot celebrate and celebrate others. 283 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 2: Who else? 284 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 7: Tyreek Hill has not made a not made a team 285 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 7: captain on the Dolphins. That's not surprising, shouldn't surprise anybody. 286 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 7: I don't know if you. If you I guess listed 287 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 7: the characteristics Doug of your captain captain makes up a captain. 288 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 7: I'm guessing each of those traits would be the exact 289 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 7: opposite of what Tyreek Hill brings to the table. And 290 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 7: then I saw this amazing story that has the details 291 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 7: of his divorce and how much he's paying out, and 292 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 7: then it reminded the world the details of this divorce 293 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 7: that he had. At least they made they made the 294 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 7: point of saying at least five kids last year and 295 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 7: it wasn't not one of them was with with this 296 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 7: wife that just left them. So Tyreek Hill is always annoying. 297 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 7: I like bringing him up in this segment he had 298 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 7: he basically personifies annoying. But him not being made a 299 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 7: captain is not surprising. 300 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree with you. Now, he's not surprising. 301 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 2: It actually means that the Dolphins are kind of getting 302 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 2: it and not just giving him some random, some random deal, right, 303 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 2: or just oh you're a captain just because we say 304 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 2: you're a captain. Yeah, you know, because we want it 305 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,199 Speaker 2: to happen and want you then to absorb leadership. He 306 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 2: and he is annoying. 307 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 7: That that part, to me, is is always a leap 308 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 7: of faith from coach. I'm gonna make you a captain 309 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 7: and maybe you'll change your stripes, maybe you'll become a leader. 310 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 7: That's dicey. So Shannon Sharp's annoying, and I actually I 311 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 7: agree with a part of Ray Lewis here So ray 312 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 7: Lewis went on this tangent on this podcast he was 313 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 7: on lately about how disappointed he kind of is about 314 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 7: how or confused he is about Shannon Sharp's media persona. 315 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 7: He's talking about Club Sha Sha here. So for those 316 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 7: that don't quite know the depths of Shannon Sharp's media presentation, 317 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 7: he does like a night we show with Ocho Cinco. 318 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,239 Speaker 7: He'll also put the basketball player I forget his name 319 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 7: right now, but every once in a while then they'll 320 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,120 Speaker 7: just kind of chop up the night sports. That's different. 321 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 7: Club Shay Sheha is the kind of the media maker, 322 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 7: I'm sorry, the moneymaker, the one that you see him 323 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 7: sit down with entertainers. And this is what ray Lewis had. 324 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 9: To say, that route is is to become so worldly 325 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 9: that you've become pop because you're talking about ignorance, right 326 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 9: A lot of times, a lot of these gossip conversations 327 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 9: that they having and bringing up all this stuff. I'm 328 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 9: not gonna do that to nobody. I'm not in the 329 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 9: business for that. I'm in life to try to teach 330 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 9: people what doesn't mean to be a better man or 331 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 9: get back to the kingdom, you know, And a lot 332 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 9: of times like and a lot a lot of guys 333 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 9: get in trouble with these podcasts and things, man, because 334 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 9: everybody wants to follower, everybody wants to be popular, everybody 335 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 9: wants to make money. But that's a that's a tight 336 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 9: that's a tight rope into what you call influence and popularity. 337 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 9: The devil has the ability to make you popular. God 338 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 9: has the ability to give you influence that when people 339 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 9: see you, they see an image of Him. And that's 340 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 9: the thing for me that started to switch with with 341 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 9: not just Sharning, but just a couple of people. I'm like, Wow, 342 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 9: you would switch out like that really? And I would 343 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 9: never ever why because of the respect that I have 344 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:05,959 Speaker 9: for my mother, my daughters, my granddaughters life period. And 345 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 9: I think men, given these new platforms, we've overrolled what 346 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 9: the platform is actually for. 347 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 7: This is great. There's a lot of good stuff in there, 348 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 7: a lot of spiritual stuff, religious stuff that I don't 349 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 7: really get into. But the whole thing is this. The 350 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 7: thing that annoys me most about Shannon Sharp is how 351 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 7: popular that podcast has become. Because when things become popular, 352 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 7: I have a sickness. I have a sickness of fomo 353 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 7: and I have to consume it. So I have watched 354 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,959 Speaker 7: or listened to Shannon Sharp's Shay Shay podcast, and it 355 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 7: could not lose me anymore. It is like people talking 356 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 7: in a different language. It is like they're talking about 357 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 7: a world that I have no idea exists. It's a 358 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 7: complete departure from my life. And I'm not talking about 359 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 7: just culturally or race here. But I'm just saying that 360 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 7: I'm confused by what. What makes it so popular? The 361 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:07,439 Speaker 7: Democratic nominee did that podcast, that's how That's how popular 362 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,360 Speaker 7: it was, That's how many people download it. So it's annoying. 363 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,199 Speaker 7: It annoys me how popular the podcast is. And then 364 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 7: Ray Lewis gave me some context that I appreciated. 365 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 2: It is it. I'm I'm actually with you. I don't 366 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 2: get it either. I'm fascinated by why why it is. 367 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,239 Speaker 2: I don't get it, but I definitely don't get it. 368 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 2: So you and I agree, Uh, okay, So what do 369 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 2: I have? I have? I have Shannon Sharp? What else 370 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 2: I got? 371 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 7: The Shannon Sharp thing annoys me. Tyreek Hill always annoys me. 372 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 7: And then Tom Brady not given that third option where 373 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 7: you just throw a touchdown pass and walk off the field. 374 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 2: Uh, I'm Shannon Sharp's easy one. You know it's It's 375 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 2: It's again. It's one of those I just, honestly, this 376 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 2: is do you remember Family Matters with Erkele Never got 377 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 2: that show, didn't get it at all. I would say, say, 378 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 2: by the Bells another one. I don't really understand. Maybe 379 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 2: I was a little bit too old. I had more 380 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 2: of a discerning TV. I watched sitcoms that I thought 381 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 2: were really funny, like Friends, but before that Cheers I 382 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 2: found to be really really funny. Seinfeld, some of the 383 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 2: humor was more adult, whereas I just it was like 384 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 2: canned cheesy. I never got it. Didn't get those DON'TK club. 385 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 2: It's annoying. 386 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: Why are we doing this because we can? 387 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 7: Hey, Doug, did you catch any of the new show 388 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 7: on Fox Mornings before cow heard the barstool guys those 389 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 7: doing their thing. H did not? Okay, so they launched 390 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:10,199 Speaker 7: their show. It's It definitely has this clumsy feel to it. 391 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 7: But I have a feeling that's their brand. I don't 392 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 7: I don't know their brand, so this will be my 393 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 7: kind of introduction to them as they try to shoehorn 394 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 7: this kind of like, uh, I don't know. Alternative show 395 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 7: that has no rules into a cable program that does 396 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 7: have rules and commercials. So afterwards they did a they 397 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 7: did an after show to talk about about their launching stuff, 398 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 7: and they started talking about what I just referred to, 399 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,719 Speaker 7: kind of like they need to scale it back and 400 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 7: think about the FCC and stuff. Now, Hey, Brandon Walkers 401 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 7: on TV. 402 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 2: I don't know, hello, mister syndication. 403 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, sure, sure, sure, not that big of a deal. 404 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 2: Guy. 405 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 5: How hard was it to not swear? 406 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 4: How hard was it? 407 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 6: Not as hard as I thought? I was very concined. 408 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,479 Speaker 6: I didn't sleep well last night. I was very concerned 409 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 6: about that part. 410 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 5: Is there clarity on like the in between words like cock? 411 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,239 Speaker 6: No, I don't my cock? Like they just gave us 412 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 6: a speech right before, Hey guys, we do have a 413 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 6: button and we will press it, but please don't cuss. 414 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 6: And that scared me enough to worry. I didn't even 415 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,120 Speaker 6: I didn't do cock. I didn't do balls. I didn't 416 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 6: do anything. You knew balls. 417 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 5: Would you have done balls I thought about doing. If 418 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 5: you sat on your balls, would you announce it? 419 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 6: I had balls on the tongue once, but I didn't 420 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 6: say that. Okay, balls was right on my tongue bauz. 421 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 2: Why could I play for you because we can't. That 422 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 2: will be interesting to see if that show is able 423 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 2: to evolve why you played for you because we can. 424 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 2: That's it for the end of the Modus Podcast. I 425 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 2: got the radio show three to five Eastern, twelve two Pacific, 426 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 2: Fox Sport Tradio, iHeart Radio app. I'm Doug Outli