Speaker 1: Look at help. It's only films to be buried with. Hello,
Speaker 1: and welcome to films to be buried with. My name
Speaker 1: is Brett Goldstein. I'm a comedian, an actor, a writer,
Speaker 1: a director, a pineapple, and I love film. As Terry
Speaker 1: Pratchett once said, time is a drug. Too much of
Speaker 1: it kills you, and sometimes it goes backwards, which is
Speaker 1: really quite confusing, like being on acid or something. I
Speaker 1: don't really understand. Turn it. Every week I invite a
Speaker 1: special guest over. I tell them they've died. Then I
Speaker 1: get them to discuss their life through the films that
Speaker 1: meant the most of them. Previous guests include Sharon Stone,
Speaker 1: Kevin Smith, Jamila Jamil, Ricky Gervais, and even pet Pambles.
Speaker 1: But this week it's the incredible musician superstar mister Curtis Steigers.
Speaker 1: Oi everyone, OI listen, Happy New Year. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: know when you're listening to. This bit comes out New
Speaker 1: Year's Eve, New Year, have a lovely New Year. Hope
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Speaker 1: not seen it yet, you can still watch the whole
Speaker 1: of season one of Ted Lasso on the Apple TV
Speaker 1: Plus app. You, I mean, you've got to watch it.
Speaker 1: Just if you haven't seen it yet, come on, get
Speaker 1: on with it. You'll love it, honestly. And the last
Speaker 1: thing to mention, I'm going to be doing a live
Speaker 1: episode of the podcast We've Always Be Comedy, which is
Speaker 1: my favorite gig in London. We're doing an online episode
Speaker 1: for Always Be Comedy with the host of Always Becomedy,
Speaker 1: mister James Gill. Where we're doing that on the thirteenth
Speaker 1: of January. You can find tickets for that at always
Speaker 1: be Coomedy dot com. So Curtis Steigers, Kurt Steigers is
Speaker 1: an artist, a musician, a pop star, a jazz man
Speaker 1: and a real class act and I was delighted to
Speaker 1: record this with him. We did it over zoom. He
Speaker 1: was awake at nine in the morning, dressed in a suit,
Speaker 1: looked incredibly smart. He's a very smart guy. I think
Speaker 1: you're gonna love this. It was a joy to talk
Speaker 1: to him. So that is it for now. I very
Speaker 1: much hope you enjoy Episode one hundred and twenty eight
Speaker 1: of Films to be Buried With. Hello, and welcome to
Speaker 1: Films to be Buried With. It is me Brett Goldstein
Speaker 1: and I am joined today by a jazz man, a singer,
Speaker 1: a saxophonist, a improviser, a multi platinum recording artist, a trailblazer,
Speaker 1: a man with long hair, a man with short hair,
Speaker 1: a sex symbol, sure, a DJ, a Patreon, and a
Speaker 1: living legend. Please welcome to this show, the brilliant mister
Speaker 1: Curtis Stigers. Thank you you met. You left out a
Speaker 1: few things, but but that's cool. Bright things I did,
Speaker 1: but I did my best. That was over the top.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm tired. Thank you. It's a lot earlier here
Speaker 1: than it is where you are. Now tell us where
Speaker 1: you are and what time it is and what and
Speaker 1: why I am well and it's People are going to say,
Speaker 1: shut up, you prick, but it's it's actually nine h
Speaker 1: eight in the morning. On Friday in Boise, Idaho, which
Speaker 1: is out in the northwest part of the States. You're
Speaker 1: a jazz manin four. That's crazy. I had no idea
Speaker 1: there was a nine in the morning. I thought that
Speaker 1: was just the one at night. Yeah, that's mad. Also,
Speaker 1: Boise Idaho is my my co writer on a show
Speaker 1: that I do. Will Bridges he uses Boise Idaho whenever
Speaker 1: we write script set in America and it's meant to
Speaker 1: be like, you know, Boise Idea. I don't. I'm always like,
Speaker 1: where is that? And you guys, it's a thing. It's
Speaker 1: a thing. It's it's like a yeah, it's It's like Swindon.
Speaker 1: You know. I can always get a laugh on stage
Speaker 1: if I just dropped the name Swindon. And I don't
Speaker 1: know why, but I sort of like Swindon. That's fantastic. Well,
Speaker 1: so we've never met before, we're meeting today. We've connected
Speaker 1: on Twitter, my Twitter. Maybe it annoys you to hear this.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I think my mum has always
Speaker 1: fancied you. Does that annoy you? I don't know them.
Speaker 1: You know, if if the world were made of your mum,
Speaker 1: I would be the King's It's you know I love
Speaker 1: your mum. I've always loved your mom. Actually, this is
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a big episode fair And your
Speaker 1: music has always been around. You've always been I've known
Speaker 1: about you for it forever and this is very exciting
Speaker 1: to talk to you. But also when we when we connected,
Speaker 1: you said, oh I am friends with Nick Revo. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: to leave my mind now, Nick Revel, if you don't
Speaker 1: know anyone listening, isn't it fantastic UK stand up who
Speaker 1: has sort of is kind of a legend on the
Speaker 1: circuit because he was there at the very beginning. Then
Speaker 1: he left it for sort of ten years and did
Speaker 1: TV work, and then he came back. But when he
Speaker 1: came back, he started from scratch like he's a real hero.
Speaker 1: I didn't use any contacts. Was like, no, I'm an
Speaker 1: open spot. I've got to build my way back up again.
Speaker 1: He's amazing. How do you know it? Well, I met
Speaker 1: Nick through a friend. Actually's a film director, guy called
Speaker 1: Michael Hoffman. M Yeah, Michael. He made Soap Dish and
Speaker 1: The Last Station, about a million movies and he happens
Speaker 1: to be from here, from Idaho. I know him as
Speaker 1: you know, another artist to the world from from our
Speaker 1: little small corner and they went to Oxford together, Oxford together.
Speaker 1: So we met years ago Nick and I and he
Speaker 1: liked that we had cans of proper British ale in
Speaker 1: our in our you know, a hotel apartment sort of
Speaker 1: thing where we were staying, and we were playing in
Speaker 1: Soho and he thought, well, these guys aren't couldn't be
Speaker 1: as bad as as I thought they were. And so
Speaker 1: we've been pals ever since. And I've seen I've seen
Speaker 1: Nick do his stand up so many times, and I
Speaker 1: he went through a period like you were saying, where
Speaker 1: he was out doing six sets a night or four
Speaker 1: or five sets a night. Well, I'm gonna go here tonight,
Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna go there and there and there.
Speaker 1: And I thought the same thing, My god, you know,
Speaker 1: you could just be sort of resting on your laurels
Speaker 1: from saying that you you did TV and radio four
Speaker 1: a lot. And he's he's a he's an artist, and
Speaker 1: now he's got all. You know, every year he does
Speaker 1: the Edinburgh thing and builds a sort of an absurd
Speaker 1: His shows are so mind bending and ridiculous. That's what
Speaker 1: it's like having a curry with him. Actually it's just
Speaker 1: sort of following him, following him down a rabbit hole.
Speaker 1: So you did you live in London for a long time.
Speaker 1: I've never lived there, but I've spent a lot of
Speaker 1: time over the years. I started playing at first in
Speaker 1: London was in ninety two, and I've just made friends
Speaker 1: over the years, and I did spend you know, I
Speaker 1: guess a couple of months there doing a really goofy
Speaker 1: TV show called Just the Two of Us. This was
Speaker 1: back in oh seven, I think eight, and it was
Speaker 1: kind of like Dancing with the Stars, only with singers,
Speaker 1: and so I was one of the you know, I
Speaker 1: was one of the professionals and there were you know,
Speaker 1: at this moment, I can't even remember, but you know,
Speaker 1: the judges were Stuart Copeland from the Police, and I
Speaker 1: mean it was it was goofy. And I sang with
Speaker 1: Penny Smith, who was the newsreader on Good Morning TV
Speaker 1: or GMTV all that many years ago. And she's a
Speaker 1: terrible singer, but a fabulous woman and hilarious and so
Speaker 1: we basically just did a comedy routine of it. I mean,
Speaker 1: she was like Lucille Ball and you know, so I
Speaker 1: would sing whatever song it was and then she would
Speaker 1: just be awful but funny as hell. And we stayed
Speaker 1: on this show a lot longer than we should have anyway,
Speaker 1: So I was there for a while, which was nice.
Speaker 1: I love and I also play at Ronnie Scott's twice
Speaker 1: a year, so I get to spend a week being
Speaker 1: a Londoner and writing the Tube and so I know it.
Speaker 1: I know it pretty well. Actually, So you when I
Speaker 1: was looking at and I was looking at your discography
Speaker 1: and looking at all your stuff, it seems to me,
Speaker 1: are you You're like a proper artist Nick revels stuff
Speaker 1: in that you could have gone one path, but you
Speaker 1: seem to have taken quite a few different paths. Seems
Speaker 1: like you're driven by the of stuff. Is that true.
Speaker 1: I'm driven by the need to shoot myself for the foot.
Speaker 1: That's another way. I hate my foot and I like
Speaker 1: to shoot it. Yeah. You know, I've been the bane
Speaker 1: of publicists and record companies for years because I just
Speaker 1: I do something and it's fun. You know. It was
Speaker 1: fun to have long hair and make a pop soul
Speaker 1: record that was, you know, right down the middle of
Speaker 1: the road, and you know, tour with Elton John and
Speaker 1: Eric Clapton and be on all the TV shows and
Speaker 1: then I want to do something else. It's sort of like,
Speaker 1: I mean, it didn't help that everyone started calling me
Speaker 1: Michael Bolton Junior. As I well, I got to get
Speaker 1: out of this. It's time to leave. Yeah, And so
Speaker 1: I you know, I started making jazz records in two thousand.
Speaker 1: I grew up playing jazz. I studied jazz in school
Speaker 1: all the way through school. I was a clarinet player,
Speaker 1: a saxophone player, and that led me to jazz singing
Speaker 1: as well. And it seemed like the time to move
Speaker 1: away from trying to chase pop hits, because that was
Speaker 1: just brutal. You know, you put out an album and
Speaker 1: if it doesn't get on the radio in the first
Speaker 1: two weeks, it's a failure. Whereas when I make a
Speaker 1: record now, I mean, I'm still talking about the record
Speaker 1: I released, you know, in the middle of in March
Speaker 1: as my new album, and I'll do that for the
Speaker 1: next year, and especially because of the pandemic, I'll do
Speaker 1: that for the next two years. And as long as
Speaker 1: I still talk about it, it's a success. It doesn't
Speaker 1: matter that you know that no one's to their radio playlist,
Speaker 1: so it's it's a lot more fun. And then I
Speaker 1: just make records that I make the kind of records
Speaker 1: I want to make. I know, you know, I produced them,
Speaker 1: I picked the players. Whenever the record company says, hey,
Speaker 1: you ought to do this, I said, hey, it's going
Speaker 1: to cost this much to get that person to work
Speaker 1: on it to do and they say, yeah, go ahead
Speaker 1: and do what you're going to do. And so yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. Also, the record business wasn't
Speaker 1: It wasn't staying up late worrying when my next record
Speaker 1: was going to come out anyway, you know, at that
Speaker 1: at a certain point, it was like, yeah, we we
Speaker 1: had a nice time. But I think, you know, mutually,
Speaker 1: let's just call it quits. You know, you go back
Speaker 1: to your thing. I'll go back to mine. And so, yeah,
Speaker 1: I have a lot of fun. And I make enough
Speaker 1: money as a touring artist to you know, pay the
Speaker 1: mortgage and keep my daughter in college. And you know,
Speaker 1: I'll never have that big score. But I'm having a ball.
Speaker 1: And how how have you been typing without live performance? Oh?
Speaker 1: Have you been doing it? I have not been doing it. Now.
Speaker 1: I'm it's difficult for me and to not be making
Speaker 1: a living I mean, it's it's it's more the emotional
Speaker 1: part of it than than the I mean, I just
Speaker 1: I grew up, you know, with a single mom, not
Speaker 1: you know, not rich poor. I grew up poor, a
Speaker 1: poor child, and um, and so the idea of not
Speaker 1: making you know, making an income, I've been doing it
Speaker 1: since I was a fifteen years old, making money doing
Speaker 1: my thing. And I'm not now. I'm busy to tell
Speaker 1: but I'm not out there. I miss playing live, I
Speaker 1: miss doing concerts. That's how I you know, that's who
Speaker 1: I am. I'm I like making records. I love being
Speaker 1: on a stage telling stories and singing beautiful songs and
Speaker 1: and so that's been difficult. The thing that I don't
Speaker 1: miss at all is being on airplanes. It's been really
Speaker 1: I think I might have been built for a pandemic.
Speaker 1: I might have been built. I'm pretty good at lockdown.
Speaker 1: I live in a nice house with a with a
Speaker 1: big garden, and you know, um, we even got heaters
Speaker 1: for the winter. We've got those. We've got a couple
Speaker 1: of those overhead heat propane heaters. So we can have
Speaker 1: people come over and sit ten feet from us, and
Speaker 1: we each have our heater, and we you know, drink
Speaker 1: gin and tonics and talk about how cold our feet are,
Speaker 1: but our heads are really hot and hum. So it's been,
Speaker 1: it's been, and I've and I've got three dogs and
Speaker 1: so I I mean, the other night it was Thanksgiving
Speaker 1: and we we I was standing outside around you know
Speaker 1: these actually my friends across the street with a burned barrel,
Speaker 1: far enough away from each other, were very very very
Speaker 1: very careful and neurotic. But um, but we each of
Speaker 1: us said what we were thankful for on Thanksgiving. We
Speaker 1: do that every year, usually around a table with turkey
Speaker 1: and a bottle of wild turkey. That's the that's we
Speaker 1: can see. And uh. And I said that I was
Speaker 1: grateful for the numbing effects of alcohol and the companionship
Speaker 1: of dogs. And that's really what's got me. I love
Speaker 1: my wife too, and she's she's gone a lot, and
Speaker 1: so the dogs that I've really developed a close relationship.
Speaker 1: She runs a homeless shelters, so we are in the
Speaker 1: middle of like we're in the middle of a like
Speaker 1: a crisis every single day here, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: she just the whole population of the shelter had to
Speaker 1: be tested last night, including her. So I've not been
Speaker 1: tested this whole time. But she's been tested maybe seven
Speaker 1: or eight times. What's happening with this yet it's all
Speaker 1: of a sudden taken off. She They she and her
Speaker 1: staff have done such an amazing job. They you know,
Speaker 1: they provide every every guest with a mask. They went
Speaker 1: from one shelter to four shelters. They split them up
Speaker 1: so that they had more room to distance. And these people,
Speaker 1: you know, they sleep in bunk beds so close to
Speaker 1: each other. Um, and so they've had to you know,
Speaker 1: they've figured out how to distance and it worked, and
Speaker 1: it worked and it worked. But now, you know, America
Speaker 1: has just so Americans are just so broken and so
Speaker 1: stupid that we've you know, I mean we have anti
Speaker 1: mask protests here. I mean it's just like, are you
Speaker 1: fucking kidding me? It's it's it's you can't argue with
Speaker 1: the virus pal that they do, and so so we
Speaker 1: have I mean, we had the highest number of deaths
Speaker 1: yesterday than we've had in the whole thing. It's just
Speaker 1: it's mad and we've never really locked down and the
Speaker 1: governor there are a lot of Republicans here. Unfortunately, the
Speaker 1: city that I live in is is liberal but everything
Speaker 1: around is just wackados. And they followed this, this this
Speaker 1: orange idiot down this path of of not taking care
Speaker 1: of other people. You know, it's it's sort of like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get it, I don't worry. Well, you
Speaker 1: sort of need to worry about everyone else. You know,
Speaker 1: it's called human compassion. Anyway, I went off on a
Speaker 1: tangent there. No, no, no, that's Fascinat's fascinating about your
Speaker 1: wife and big, big, big respect. She's a she's she's
Speaker 1: a saint. She's just I mean, it's amazing. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: every day she just goes in in there and that's
Speaker 1: that's who she is and what she loves. I just
Speaker 1: helped raise money. We've raised funds for for this shelter
Speaker 1: for fourteen years, and she's just been the she's really
Speaker 1: just been working there for about seven when I when
Speaker 1: when we first started doing it, she just she was
Speaker 1: a marketing person and we decided to do it. We
Speaker 1: decided to create this thing. It's long before we were married,
Speaker 1: long before we were romantic. What's the name of this outday, Yes,
Speaker 1: this is it's called Interfaith Sanctuary Home of Shelter. It's
Speaker 1: in Boise, Idaho Interfaith Sanctuary dot org. And we're actually
Speaker 1: in the middle of our fundraising season and I just
Speaker 1: yesterday finally put to bed or to death. Every year
Speaker 1: we do a a two night variety show at the
Speaker 1: biggest sort of cool old theater in town m and
Speaker 1: twenty acts. I've produced the show, Jodi produces the fundraising.
Speaker 1: My wife Jody and I put twenty acts a night
Speaker 1: and it's you know, singers and actors and comedians and
Speaker 1: dancers and um. And everybody does one song and if
Speaker 1: you hate what you're hearing, then that you're going to
Speaker 1: like the next sing or the thing after that. And
Speaker 1: and it's become this amazing tradition for people. They their
Speaker 1: kids come home early, you know, to go to the
Speaker 1: show from you know, from from college or whatever, just
Speaker 1: to just to have the family together for it. And
Speaker 1: this year we can't do it because of COVID, so
Speaker 1: we've we were going to do it as an hour
Speaker 1: long sort of streamed event, but a local TV show said, hey,
Speaker 1: we want to do this or at local TV station,
Speaker 1: So we're doing it on the local ABC affiliate. And
Speaker 1: I produced an hour long TV show that's good, like Okay,
Speaker 1: this is my new job, and I've gotten into because
Speaker 1: of COVID tell me when I should shut out, But
Speaker 1: I suppose this is what I'm what I'm here for.
Speaker 1: I've had about a couple of weeks. I've learned how
Speaker 1: to use iMovie. I've learned how to shoot my videos
Speaker 1: and how to hook my fancy recording microphones into my
Speaker 1: camera systems. And I'm I've been making videos since since March,
Speaker 1: I mean bad one, some pretty good ones, and so
Speaker 1: it was. It was sort of this was kind of
Speaker 1: the culmination of all that. And I had help from
Speaker 1: a from a professional editor for the whole show, but
Speaker 1: as far as just putting it all together and putting
Speaker 1: my videos together, I did that all myself and and
Speaker 1: it was really fun. It was terrifying. And then now
Speaker 1: the show has done, and it's going to be it'll
Speaker 1: be homely as you as you call it. It's it's
Speaker 1: home Tomy and in American terms, and homely which means
Speaker 1: ugly because it's not perfect. But we'll see, we'll see
Speaker 1: if we can usually raise two hundred and fifty thousand
Speaker 1: dollars every December for the shelter. Well, if anyone listening
Speaker 1: would like to contribute, and I think you should into
Speaker 1: place sanctuary dot org help out. Curtis is a saintly wife.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much, very kind of you, Brett. That's
Speaker 1: really great. Oh, Curtis, Yes, I've forgotten to tell you something.
Speaker 1: Oh it's my chair squeaking too much. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I said it. I should said it when we connected
Speaker 1: at seat. I should have Oh what why you should
Speaker 1: have said it. I'm nervous, nervous when I sent a
Speaker 1: zoom because you just said it. I should have said
Speaker 1: it off air. It's weird. I was saying it on it,
Speaker 1: but I just I'll just say, it's just gonna upset me.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'll say you've died, you've died. Oh sorry?
Speaker 1: Does this? Does this have anything to do with that
Speaker 1: that drink I made last night? You tell me? How
Speaker 1: did you die? Oh? No, no, it was the You're right.
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a mountain biker. I ride bikes and
Speaker 1: I was going a little too fast through the trees
Speaker 1: last yesterday afternoon, and I don't remember anything since then.
Speaker 1: I just remember smiling and having bugs in my teeth
Speaker 1: from going and then there was that tree. That's probably it,
Speaker 1: all right, well, right into a tree. Motorbiking. At least
Speaker 1: I finished my mountain. Yeah, I don't, no, no, just
Speaker 1: pedaling and yeah we have we have mountain. You're going
Speaker 1: pretty pretty fast. I was going. It's it's a fun.
Speaker 1: It's a fun thing to do. It was a fun
Speaker 1: thing to do. Maybe do you think they'll have what
Speaker 1: I mean, wherever we are? Do you think they'll have
Speaker 1: mountain biking here? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm worry about that.
Speaker 1: But what I want to know is do you worry
Speaker 1: about death? I'm very I'm a very worried, anxiety ridden person,
Speaker 1: so I guess I do. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: do worry about about death and about you know, germs,
Speaker 1: and I mean this thing has been a little bit
Speaker 1: rough on me with it, with the just seeing someone
Speaker 1: in a mask sends me into a spiral. And you
Speaker 1: can you can imagine what going to the grocery stores
Speaker 1: like for me. Yeah? Yeah, Have you always been this
Speaker 1: way or is this it? Well? I think when I
Speaker 1: was a kid, I didn't think about death at all,
Speaker 1: you know, And plus I do, I do. I enjoy
Speaker 1: gravity sports. I enjoyed I'm a skier and I'm a
Speaker 1: biker and when I'm doing that. I'm not thinking I'm
Speaker 1: gonna die. I mean, I'm thinking maybe I'm gonna fly
Speaker 1: for my bars and scrape up my whatever. But probably
Speaker 1: you know, a person could die doing what I do,
Speaker 1: And um, I don't. I guess I don't really think
Speaker 1: about it. Then I tend to be I'm just sort
Speaker 1: of a worrier. I just I worry about stuff that
Speaker 1: I shouldn't worry about. This is getting it is getting uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: I mean, should I will there be a will? There
Speaker 1: be like a will my insurance cover this? Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: a there's a there's a there's a there's a doctor
Speaker 1: comes out at the end of the podcast. So breaking
Speaker 1: as long as they as long as they prescribe me
Speaker 1: some good stuff, Oh yeah, they go there. I need
Speaker 1: to find it. What do you think happens when need die?
Speaker 1: If I may ask, it doesn't make you too as
Speaker 1: I have no no way of knowing, have I I mean,
Speaker 1: I I'm I really haven't. I just think it's it's, um,
Speaker 1: you start theorizing about what happens after you die, and
Speaker 1: then suddenly you've got the crusades, And I think that's
Speaker 1: a bad jump to make. I think there's a great song. Uh.
Speaker 1: I can't even think of the singer because I need
Speaker 1: one more cup of tea, but um, she it's the
Speaker 1: song is called let the Mystery Be, you know, and
Speaker 1: it's some people think that, some people think that I
Speaker 1: choose just to let the mystery be. I grew up,
Speaker 1: you know, I grew up in in going to church
Speaker 1: and believing. And then I got to a certain point
Speaker 1: where I realized that they didn't really believe it anymore
Speaker 1: than I was believing it, you know. And they also
Speaker 1: were tined us, and they were telling me to stay
Speaker 1: away from girls and and you know, beer and pot.
Speaker 1: And I thought, well, that's bullshit, isn't it. That's not
Speaker 1: that's that's not fun. So so I did. I did.
Speaker 1: And just the hypocrisy of Christianity in particular, but I
Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure there's there's hypocrisy and just about
Speaker 1: any religion at certain levels and certain people. It just
Speaker 1: it just chased me away. So do you remember the
Speaker 1: age when you were like, oh, I think this might
Speaker 1: be the sort of mid teens, yeah, sort of fifteen.
Speaker 1: I hung in there for a while. I thought I
Speaker 1: thought it was sort of interesting. But I think I
Speaker 1: always liked sci fi and horror book you know, books
Speaker 1: and things, and so I maybe I just think maybe
Speaker 1: that was it was just like, well, what a good story.
Speaker 1: There's like you know, walking on water and anyway. Um,
Speaker 1: So I don't know, um, but I'm hoping there will
Speaker 1: be mountain bikes and and acoustic guitars to play to
Speaker 1: strump Well, guess what, guess what is? There is a
Speaker 1: heaven and it is filled with mountain bike ranges, mountain bikes.
Speaker 1: It's got acoustic guitars. You can pick one up anyway
Speaker 1: you like. There is live performances all sorts. What there
Speaker 1: also is in this heaven? Yeah, everyone's obsessed with films
Speaker 1: there since with him. Yeah, motorbikes and jazz, mountain bikes.
Speaker 1: Mountain bikes, I mean, motorbikes are fine. I'm not you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not judging, but you know, annoyed. A couple of
Speaker 1: them are in heaven. No, that's they They actually cut
Speaker 1: the trails that I ride. You know you're before and
Speaker 1: then they were and then they were banned from them
Speaker 1: once once. Well so what everyone in heaven once nice?
Speaker 1: They want to know about your life through film, and
Speaker 1: the first it's what's the first film that you remember seeing, Curtis.
Speaker 1: I thought it might be Bamby or something like that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I do remember seeing Bamby, and I I
Speaker 1: have a recollection, but I'm pretty sure it's just my
Speaker 1: mom telling me about it, you know that. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: I said, where's Bambi's mama, you know, really loudly, as
Speaker 1: as Bambi's mama. And I said it in a British accent,
Speaker 1: which is strange. I don't know why I would have
Speaker 1: but traumatized when when I thought about it, it really was.
Speaker 1: I mean, the strong memory I have is seeing Oliver
Speaker 1: with a with a an exclamation point, right, yeah, Oliver
Speaker 1: Oliver Um, And um, that's what I remember. And it
Speaker 1: was terrifying. I must have been. It came out in
Speaker 1: sixty eight. I mean, I've done some research. It came
Speaker 1: out in sixty eight, so I probably saw it then
Speaker 1: or sixty nine, so I was three or four years old,
Speaker 1: and I and you know, it's a pretty edgy vehicle
Speaker 1: for a you know, for I remembered until doing my research,
Speaker 1: I remembered it ending with him being you know, sort
Speaker 1: of snuck out of the he finally gets to the
Speaker 1: good place. And everything's white and clean, and he's got
Speaker 1: all the food he wants. And then he gets kidnapped
Speaker 1: again and back into the life, and I remember that
Speaker 1: being the end, but it wasn't, you know. It goes
Speaker 1: on and he does, in fact get to go back
Speaker 1: to his uncle's, but it does end. And I remember
Speaker 1: this too, of the artful dodger. He was going to
Speaker 1: be a good lad and then he's you know, he's
Speaker 1: got somebody's wallet, and they go off arm in arm,
Speaker 1: he and Fagan, I think, right, so, but I do
Speaker 1: remember just being horrified and thinking that was the end.
Speaker 1: So maybe I was so horrified that my mom took
Speaker 1: me out and I didn't, you know, and so I
Speaker 1: didn't see. And that was has always been the end
Speaker 1: for all of her was he was just fucked. Oliver
Speaker 1: was fucked. That's why you think you could You're you're
Speaker 1: drone to Bambis. Well. Let that's how little films end.
Speaker 1: As a child, everyone's it's Oliver's kidnapped. Mom's dead. Everyone's fucked.
Speaker 1: Mama's dead. It's yeah. So that's that was the beginning
Speaker 1: of my love of cinema, my love affair with cinema.
Speaker 1: That was the beginning of my death anxiety. Well and
Speaker 1: that too, I'm gonna have to talk to my shrink
Speaker 1: about that. What are you and idly child? You know,
Speaker 1: I've got I've got a younger brother, Jake. He's six
Speaker 1: and a half years younger, So I mean he was
Speaker 1: I was, you know, he's my brother. But I also
Speaker 1: kind of helped raise him. You know, I spent a
Speaker 1: lot of time just with a single mom. She was
Speaker 1: always at work, so I you know, I realized that,
Speaker 1: you know, probably in counseling and years of therapy that yeah,
Speaker 1: I was sort of I've always been the one that
Speaker 1: sort of took care of things. It kind of and
Speaker 1: and that probably leads to my anxiety and sort of worrying,
Speaker 1: you know, just sort of like, well, I've got him
Speaker 1: look three steps down the road to make sure that
Speaker 1: this doesn't go wrong, that doesn't go wrong. If I
Speaker 1: may ask, and if this is two passive, but at
Speaker 1: what point was your mom a single mom in your life? Always? Um? No, no,
Speaker 1: I am. She split with um with my dad And
Speaker 1: there's a story behind that as well. M between second
Speaker 1: and third grade years, so that's like sort of seven. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my brother was My brother was only one when when
Speaker 1: he left, So it's your brother just coming. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: so I guess I was seven or eight. And and
Speaker 1: then years later I found out that in fact, he
Speaker 1: wasn't my dad, just my brother's dad, and that my
Speaker 1: dad had died in Vietnam, which sort of just like
Speaker 1: pushed it under the rug for many more years. And
Speaker 1: about ten years ago I finally connected with my my
Speaker 1: biological father. Now I have a I have a relationship,
Speaker 1: a friendship with my with my real dad, my stepdad
Speaker 1: that was my dad has passed away. And I hadn't,
Speaker 1: you know, we we kind of had a hard break
Speaker 1: many years ago. Um so I hadn't. But but I've
Speaker 1: got this whole new sort of part of my life
Speaker 1: that just came out. What happened to your dad? He
Speaker 1: died in Vietnam? And it didn't die in Vietnam. No,
Speaker 1: he didn't die in Vietnam. He just that was the story.
Speaker 1: I think I've finally gotten to the bottom of it.
Speaker 1: And it's a long it's a really good story that
Speaker 1: someday I'm you know, I'm gonna at least doing it
Speaker 1: in Edinburgh shows. It's just it's just, yeah, there's gonna
Speaker 1: be songs. Consider yourself an orphan. See, I mean there's
Speaker 1: the orphan thing. I mean, this is all, this is
Speaker 1: all coming back. You really should you should get accredited
Speaker 1: and maybe you know, just started charging for this Brett.
Speaker 1: Um but um, it's a great it's a really interesting story.
Speaker 1: But she I truly believe she did think he had
Speaker 1: he had eyed in Vietnam because she said that he
Speaker 1: was a drug She found out he was a drug dealer, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, the stories have evolved. It started out that
Speaker 1: he was my boyfriend in college and we were in love.
Speaker 1: But um, you know, I found out he was a
Speaker 1: drug dealer, so I broke up with him. And then
Speaker 1: I heard later on that and I never told him
Speaker 1: about you. I never told him that I was pregnant.
Speaker 1: And he went off to Vietnam and died. It's like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: well that um, well, it turned out that he did,
Speaker 1: you know, he did get drafted, but he went to Washington,
Speaker 1: DC and worked, you know, in a hospital. And my
Speaker 1: final theory, she finally said something about, well, this guy
Speaker 1: that wanted to go out with me, I think he
Speaker 1: was the one that told me that Dennis died. My
Speaker 1: father's name is Dennis Townsend. So some guy was trying
Speaker 1: to bang my mom, and so he told her that
Speaker 1: her ex boyfriend had gone off to kind of or
Speaker 1: or no, he told her he told her that her
Speaker 1: boyfriend was a drug dealer and went off to a long, long, twisted.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that I'll ever know the truth, but
Speaker 1: I do know that my dad does not remember that
Speaker 1: night because it was It turns out just you know,
Speaker 1: if there was just one, a one er, it was
Speaker 1: a one er one it in it big one, big one.
Speaker 1: And where we are now? Look, I mean without my
Speaker 1: mom's promiscuity, where would I be. God love my mom
Speaker 1: for running a little while when she was young. That's
Speaker 1: very cool. And what's the film that scared you the most?
Speaker 1: Do you like being scared? I do? I do less
Speaker 1: so as I get older, But I loved scary movies.
Speaker 1: Alien scared the hell out of me. Alien, I really
Speaker 1: think is a perfect film. It's just so because it
Speaker 1: was the we were in that Star Wars time. We
Speaker 1: were in that where space and two thousand and one
Speaker 1: where space was super clean and everything was was like,
Speaker 1: you know, another world, and then suddenly you're on the Nostromo.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know this movie so well, I love it.
Speaker 1: And it's like, you know, it's like a factory. It's
Speaker 1: like a it's it's it's grimy, and it's it's greasy,
Speaker 1: and it's there's steam and there's um it's sort of rough.
Speaker 1: And even with the scene where John Hurt where the
Speaker 1: where the thing comes out of his chest, they're in
Speaker 1: like a cafeteria. It's just like it could be in
Speaker 1: any in any workplace. So there was that. It was
Speaker 1: just it felt real, it felt like you could just
Speaker 1: be there. And then there's this you know, it's a
Speaker 1: haunted house movie set on a space ship basically, right,
Speaker 1: with an incredible cast. I mean you know again, um,
Speaker 1: John John Hurt, right, Ye's John Hurt and Harry Dean Stanton.
Speaker 1: Always forget that Harry Dean Stanton was in it, and um,
Speaker 1: of course Sigourney Weaver who's smart and strong and cool
Speaker 1: and um and tough as hell, and she's in her
Speaker 1: panties and a little tank top at the end. So
Speaker 1: it was just, I mean, this was perfect for the
Speaker 1: whatever for there was there was nothing wrong at all,
Speaker 1: Especially as a eeen year old or a thirteen year
Speaker 1: or whatever I was, it was like this is a
Speaker 1: great way to be scared. So yeah, fucking great. Um,
Speaker 1: what's the film that made you cry the most? And
Speaker 1: are you a cryer? To answer the second one, yes,
Speaker 1: I am. I I mean, I know the hell out
Speaker 1: of my daughter, you know, I will. We'll be watching
Speaker 1: a movie together, a show together, and I'll, you know,
Speaker 1: I'll start and she's like, Dad, it's a dog show,
Speaker 1: for Christ's sake. It's no, this is not so I do.
Speaker 1: The movie that I I probably couldn't see it again,
Speaker 1: but that killed me. Was is a movie called The
Speaker 1: Sweet Here After? Did you ever see The Sweet Here? Oh?
Speaker 1: Is it? And um Adam Adam mcgoyan, Yeah, the kids
Speaker 1: on it? Yeah about in home? Yeah, it's it's and
Speaker 1: it was it was you know, it was from a book. Um,
Speaker 1: what's his name? Russell Banks. Russell Banks wrote the book
Speaker 1: and so and he based it on an actual occurrence.
Speaker 1: This actually happened. Bus goes off the road out onto
Speaker 1: a frozen lake accident, you know, just you know, slid
Speaker 1: off the road and it and the scene of the
Speaker 1: thing going in you relive it, but it's it's just
Speaker 1: it was before I had a kid, you know, I've
Speaker 1: just got my daughter Ruby. It was before I had that.
Speaker 1: But it's just it's the aftermath of it. Really. The
Speaker 1: movie is and about um, about the lawyer that comes
Speaker 1: to town to try to get a settlement so that
Speaker 1: the company doesn't So it's um. It's just so incredibly
Speaker 1: brutally heartbreaking and perfect. It's a beautiful film. I just
Speaker 1: I couldn't see it again, especially having had a kid,
Speaker 1: you know, I just don't. I don't know that I
Speaker 1: couldn't take it. I'd probably, but I remember crying from
Speaker 1: you know, the maybe the eighteenth frame of the movie
Speaker 1: until about two days later. I mean, it was just
Speaker 1: but I couldn't recommend the film more highly, as you know,
Speaker 1: as awful as it sounds, it is just it's a poem.
Speaker 1: It is a perfect little piece of art and surprisingly entertaining.
Speaker 1: Ian Holme is also in that he plays the lawyer
Speaker 1: and he you know, he's he was the robot, you know,
Speaker 1: eventually the robot in an alien. There's a there's an
Speaker 1: Ian Holme theme. Were all connected. What is the film
Speaker 1: that people don't like? It's not critically acclaimed, but you
Speaker 1: love it. You don't give a shit what anyone says.
Speaker 1: This was a harder one for me, And so I
Speaker 1: went toward a movie that I think is underrated. I'm
Speaker 1: a I'm a huge Coen Brothers fan. I love every
Speaker 1: one of their films. Um. And they made a movie
Speaker 1: that I think maybe was it was intended to be
Speaker 1: the big you know, they were going to make their
Speaker 1: big jump and become become super successful instead of just
Speaker 1: really really successful. And they made a movie called Into
Speaker 1: Intolerable Cruelty with George Clooney and Katherine Cited Jones and
Speaker 1: Billy Bob Thornton and one other big Anyway, it's a
Speaker 1: great movie. It's sexy as hell. You want them, You're
Speaker 1: just you just want them to fuck from the first moment.
Speaker 1: I hope I can say this on the TV. Um,
Speaker 1: it's just like, please look at you too, just do it.
Speaker 1: But um and and it's twists and turns. It's a
Speaker 1: really smart, smart, funny, dark comedy and it just you know,
Speaker 1: it's sort of like, oh, it's this is you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know why. I think it's a brilliant movie.
Speaker 1: I think it's one of their best, and it doesn't
Speaker 1: get the love that it should. That is a perfect
Speaker 1: answer to this question. And I think I think one
Speaker 1: of the reasons that that doesn't get the I think
Speaker 1: it was one of the few films they were brought on.
Speaker 1: They were directors for Hire four. I think they did
Speaker 1: a rewrite on it. I think there was a director
Speaker 1: director dropped out and they were brought in. So I
Speaker 1: think perhaps critics and people would sort of think of
Speaker 1: it as beneath the Coming Brothers because it wasn't their
Speaker 1: baby initially. Isn't that funny? But they may. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's so much a Coen Brothers film. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: so it just works like one of their films. To
Speaker 1: watch that again, oh it's great. I mean, Clooney is
Speaker 1: so is so good, and he's so good at being
Speaker 1: you know, incredibly successful and handsome and his whole thing
Speaker 1: and then just getting knocked down to his knees. He's
Speaker 1: really he's he's he's great at being a vulnerable movie star,
Speaker 1: you know. I like that. And Kathy's Zeita Jones, you know,
Speaker 1: is really a fine actress, a really good comedian. She
Speaker 1: was great in that, and she's fairly good looking. SE's like,
Speaker 1: what's the what's a film that you used to love?
Speaker 1: You loved it, but then you've watched it recently and
Speaker 1: you're gone, Oh, I do not like this anymore. When
Speaker 1: I was young and thought a lot of myself, I
Speaker 1: used to say that Blue Velvet, the David Lynch film
Speaker 1: Blue Velvet, it was my favorite movie, and it was
Speaker 1: it was my favorite movie. And then I saw it,
Speaker 1: you know, ten years ago again, and I still think
Speaker 1: it's a brilliant film, and I totally get how it works.
Speaker 1: It's basically a dream, you know. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: all of his movies are, all the ones that I've seen,
Speaker 1: are really just a dream. It's the kind of thing
Speaker 1: where you're going along like this and then it jumps
Speaker 1: over here and it's not linear, and it doesn't it
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense, which is how a dream is. You know,
Speaker 1: you're you're swimming in a pool and you're naked and
Speaker 1: you're embarrassed, and you're at a party, and then suddenly
Speaker 1: you're in a classroom and you're, you know, doing something else,
Speaker 1: and that's how his films are. Love his films, but
Speaker 1: it's not my favorite movie anymore. I mean, it's so
Speaker 1: incredibly brutal, and I guess I've just become a little
Speaker 1: sensitive in my old age. Everything about it is fantastic.
Speaker 1: Not my favorite movie anymore. Is just too too brute
Speaker 1: for me, So I don't and I just think it's
Speaker 1: a really bad it, doesn't it. Maybe it showed that
Speaker 1: I was kind of cool when I was twenty two
Speaker 1: to say, yeah, blue Velvet, man, that's that's movie. But
Speaker 1: as a fifty five year old man to say blue
Speaker 1: Velvet it's your favorite movie, it's like I'm going to
Speaker 1: keep my kids away from you. That's sort of a thing.
Speaker 1: Is it very interesting? I say, that's that's that's fair.
Speaker 1: What is the film? That means the mice ta Not
Speaker 1: necessarily the film itself is any good, but because of
Speaker 1: the experience you had around seeing the film, that will
Speaker 1: always make it special to you. This was this was
Speaker 1: one that I sort of bent a bit here. This
Speaker 1: is one that I have it maybe a surprise. Well,
Speaker 1: here's the deal. In nineteen ninety three, early ninety three,
Speaker 1: I went with my my manager who's still a dear friend,
Speaker 1: not my manager anymore, but Winston and I took our
Speaker 1: wives to see in the afternoon, which is something I
Speaker 1: don't I don't often do. We went to see The Bodyguard.
Speaker 1: It had just come out in November of ninety two,
Speaker 1: and we went to see that movie in the afternoon
Speaker 1: with our wives because I had been I had a song.
Speaker 1: I had a track on the soundtrack, which, by the way,
Speaker 1: in the movie sounds like this, and that's it. It's
Speaker 1: it's literally that long, maybe maybe a second longer, but
Speaker 1: it's it's coming. It's a it's my song coming through
Speaker 1: the wall. As Whitney Houston is sitting at a at
Speaker 1: her backstage in a green room. It's it's like the
Speaker 1: song being played by the opening band in the club.
Speaker 1: You can't hear my voice at all, but it is
Speaker 1: on the same day, it's on the It's on the
Speaker 1: Fat which sold forty five million copies. Wow, which you know,
Speaker 1: you'd think I'd be much wealthier than I am. But
Speaker 1: because I was on the label that put the album out,
Speaker 1: on Arista Records, they figured out a way to sort
Speaker 1: of you know, you know, with all the red tape,
Speaker 1: and so I'm I'm still in a red position. I
Speaker 1: still owe Aris to Records money for my second album,
Speaker 1: which which I worked on after that, and they just
Speaker 1: kept making me rerecord it. I mean, this is one
Speaker 1: of the reasons that I was happy to step away
Speaker 1: from us from from the pop business. So um, so
Speaker 1: we went to that and um, every time Whitney Houston
Speaker 1: would sing a song in that movie, my manager would
Speaker 1: lean over to me and say chit ching, and so
Speaker 1: that that is my memory. That's why it wasn't the
Speaker 1: movie necessarily. It was being there with you know, my
Speaker 1: manager and our wives and it just being this, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, I'm in a big movie with with the
Speaker 1: guy with the bangs. What's his name, Kevin Thinky. Anyway,
Speaker 1: that's the that's the right answer. That it was great,
Speaker 1: and it led to me being friends with my hero
Speaker 1: Nick Lowe, which that's a poster I brought. I actually
Speaker 1: brought him to Boise when he was on tour and
Speaker 1: promoted a show of him years ago, and that's the
Speaker 1: poster from it. But I'm I'm friends with my huge
Speaker 1: hero Nicolaw. I mean, I think he's one of the
Speaker 1: greatest songwriters in the world. And I because I recorded
Speaker 1: What's So Funny About Peace, Love and Understanding for the
Speaker 1: Bodyguard soundtrack, his song. He after he got like the
Speaker 1: second hundred thousand pound check in the mail and something
Speaker 1: I get this, you know, he called me out of
Speaker 1: the blue and said Curtis, thank you so much. And
Speaker 1: he promised I'd never pay for another meal in London
Speaker 1: as long as I lived, which was a lie, but
Speaker 1: he did. He bought a few. He bought a few.
Speaker 1: So anyway, Yeah, it was that was a fun afternoon
Speaker 1: and funny as helm. That's very cool. That's cool, man.
Speaker 1: What's the film that you must relate to? It's a
Speaker 1: little corny, that's okay, it's more. I approached this. I'm
Speaker 1: approaching this answer this answer or this question from from more?
Speaker 1: How I how I related to it? Then? When I
Speaker 1: saw it when I was almost sixteen, I had just
Speaker 1: started dating a girl who was two years older than me.
Speaker 1: She was a senior in high school and I was
Speaker 1: a sophomore, and she was just lovely and just the greatest,
Speaker 1: and she happened to be in the choir and so
Speaker 1: she was really into music. And she took me to
Speaker 1: see Fame, the movie Fame, and you know, it's I
Speaker 1: still if it's on, I'm gonna watch it. It's perfect. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's corny and it has this, but
Speaker 1: it's also edgy as hell. And as soon as it started,
Speaker 1: I thought, well I could I could fit right in there.
Speaker 1: I could be there, or I could be over there
Speaker 1: next to the and I could be doing that, and
Speaker 1: I could It's still I mean, I get I sort
Speaker 1: of get to I didn't expect to get goosebumps thing,
Speaker 1: but it really it moved me. It made me want
Speaker 1: to do that, and I was already doing that. I
Speaker 1: was already you know, I've been playing clarinet and drums
Speaker 1: for and starting to really sing a lot by by then.
Speaker 1: But I've been doing that since I was a kid,
Speaker 1: and I've loved records, but it never sort of it
Speaker 1: hadn't really occurred to me, Oh my god, you know
Speaker 1: I could do that, I could go so um. That
Speaker 1: means that that movie still means a lot to me,
Speaker 1: but it meant a hell of a lot to me
Speaker 1: at the time and sort of changed my life. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's that's something. Same. Sorry, it's okay, it's still I
Speaker 1: almost yeah, it's right here. Showbiz baby, Well, Curtis Tigers there,
Speaker 1: we guys. This one for this one's for the ladies.
Speaker 1: What is this show? What's the sexiest film you've ever seen? Oh?
Speaker 1: The man? Yeah, the sexiest scene or scenes in a
Speaker 1: movie ever are from north By Northwest Carrie Grant and
Speaker 1: Eve Marie Saint on the train. Yeah, and it's they're
Speaker 1: not they're still dressed, you know, they're not they're not
Speaker 1: fucking but she you know, they're going to later. And
Speaker 1: eventually the train does go into the tunnel. I mean,
Speaker 1: there is that famous that's a famous hitchcock and the
Speaker 1: train goes into the tunnel and and okay, we we
Speaker 1: they even knew what happened back then when when the
Speaker 1: movie came out, but when when Ebory Saint is talking
Speaker 1: in that incredibly soft voice and she's just so sexy
Speaker 1: and she's sorry, this is this is her hand on
Speaker 1: the back of his neck and he's got this is why,
Speaker 1: you know, except for those few short ears that I
Speaker 1: had long hair, why now I always keep my hair
Speaker 1: very short in the back because there's nothing like a
Speaker 1: hand on the back of your neck, and in my case,
Speaker 1: my wife's hand. Um, but she's just doing that and
Speaker 1: she's kissing him, and Jesus, it's steamy, good God almighty. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that really, And I saw it when I
Speaker 1: was fairly young, probably you know, in in high school, um,
Speaker 1: and even even then, and you know, it's like it's
Speaker 1: an old movie you're sort of you're sort of separate
Speaker 1: from it because it's from another era. They dressed differently.
Speaker 1: But when even Marie Saint starts talking soft and and
Speaker 1: seducing Carrie Grant, that's it's over. You are classy, motherfucker.
Speaker 1: That is I know. So for that he's listening. I
Speaker 1: didn't mention this, but it's it's you know, at nine
Speaker 1: in the morning, he's dressed in it. Sue. It doesn't
Speaker 1: look like he slept in It looks like he got
Speaker 1: up to put this on. Thank thanks for saying that.
Speaker 1: I have been saying. I just when I've done anything
Speaker 1: during this pandemic, I have tried to put a jacket on.
Speaker 1: You know, very very smart, even when it's just audio,
Speaker 1: and this is you know, audio for most people. For
Speaker 1: your Patreon people, of course it'll be it'll be on video.
Speaker 1: So this is especially for you Patreon folks. But the
Speaker 1: album last album was called Gentlemen. I mean the guys
Speaker 1: I do. I just want to. I just didn't want
Speaker 1: to stay in sweatpants for the whole the whole lockdown.
Speaker 1: I want to. I just feel like I've got to
Speaker 1: get dressed. It for that is listening. I'm completely naked. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you you're very you're very here suit. That was
Speaker 1: That's the thing. It's a little it's kind of um,
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's it's intimidating, how how masculine you see,
Speaker 1: And that's that I didn't get a chance to to
Speaker 1: fanboy about about your about Ted Lasso. Yeah, that's how
Speaker 1: I I hadn't I hadn't seen you. I hadn't discovered Brett,
Speaker 1: the Brett that is Brett until Ted Lasso, and I
Speaker 1: just assumed you were going to be gruff. And I mean,
Speaker 1: you're you're you're a really good actor. I mean I
Speaker 1: know that you're you're a stand up comedian writer, but
Speaker 1: you're a fucking great actor. And I love that show.
Speaker 1: I mean, I love the show. I just think I'm
Speaker 1: telling everybody about it. It's such a good show. And
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm screwing up your whole your whole flow here,
Speaker 1: but you can edit it out later. I really it's
Speaker 1: it's such an enjoyable show. No, that's Dan, that's gar Kidney.
Speaker 1: You kid me. That's good. I'm gonna I'm kind of
Speaker 1: the rest of me. That that's we could just talk
Speaker 1: about me for the rest though. I appreciate that, thank
Speaker 1: you very much. So you do. But but about your
Speaker 1: you have a hairy chest and I know that from
Speaker 1: the and and I you know, I've got the I've
Speaker 1: got the one that just kind of pops out here.
Speaker 1: And so I say, there's not you know, it's since
Speaker 1: the the nineteen eighties. I don't think anyone's seen. But yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: they there's there's a lot of waxing and its real
Speaker 1: shows to people. But I'm you know, you're you're an artist,
Speaker 1: You're you're gonna put yourself out there. Shock shock. The
Speaker 1: speaking of traveling bonus, there's a subcate degree to the
Speaker 1: traveling bonus. There's a subcategree to the question, which is
Speaker 1: troubling bonus, worrying, why dons? Is there a film you
Speaker 1: found a rousing that you weren't sure? You shit, I
Speaker 1: haven't heard the term wide ones until this, until this experience,
Speaker 1: and I'm it's one that I'm gonna I'm gonna save
Speaker 1: you every day. I'm going to use it, I'd say hourly. Really,
Speaker 1: let's be honest. Um. So I I have a daughter,
Speaker 1: she's almost twenty one now, Ruby is her name, and
Speaker 1: she's twenty years old, but she was a child at
Speaker 1: one time, and she watched I watched a lot of
Speaker 1: kids movies for many years, and I'm sure this is
Speaker 1: where this leads. A lot of the time is toward
Speaker 1: towards a kids movie. But thank god, this is where
Speaker 1: it's leading, because when with your daughter, I fntucking regretting.
Speaker 1: Jesus boy, Yeah, good did continue. I didn't think about
Speaker 1: the fact it might be construed that I was going
Speaker 1: to have kids movies, right, So anyway back to kids
Speaker 1: movie to day. But uh, there's a there was a movie.
Speaker 1: There is a movie. There's um a DreamWorks movie called
Speaker 1: Monsters Versus Aliens yea, and it's about kind of mutants.
Speaker 1: It's a five or six cute, fun, hilarious mutants who
Speaker 1: saved the world basically. And there was there's a girl
Speaker 1: who I think it's on her wedding day. She is
Speaker 1: I think maybe it's a meteor, some sort of sun
Speaker 1: ray or something transforms her from Susan, this cute little
Speaker 1: blonde cartoon into Gin Normica, a almost fifty foot woman
Speaker 1: and not only is she really sexy and she's got
Speaker 1: tight little pants and she's a cartoon, but her name
Speaker 1: is Gin Normica. For Christ's sake, they named her gin Normica.
Speaker 1: What are you meant to do? You helpless A. This
Speaker 1: is not fair, this is this was just laid out
Speaker 1: there for me. So I'm sitting in a movie theater
Speaker 1: next to my daughter and my now ex wife on
Speaker 1: the other side of her, and just completely thinking, this
Speaker 1: is one hot cartoon, babe. This is I mean, she
Speaker 1: was so and she's smart and she's funny and she
Speaker 1: I mean, this is there's you can tell. This is
Speaker 1: this is pathological, this is this is creepy. I really
Speaker 1: do have strong feelings for for Susan slash Giant Normica. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I'm not apologizing for it. You should not apologize
Speaker 1: for the genomica in your pants. That is what is objectively,
Speaker 1: objectively the greatest film of all time. This is too hard,
Speaker 1: This is you know. I listened to your your episode
Speaker 1: with Patton Oswald and he just immediately went boom toward
Speaker 1: to Casablanca, and I get it, you know. And frankly,
Speaker 1: I could have said that because it's maybe it's maybe
Speaker 1: the movie that I've seen the you know, or one
Speaker 1: of the movies that I've seen the most times. I
Speaker 1: love the film, but then you know, I think, but
Speaker 1: but what about what about Doctor Strangelove? I mean perfect
Speaker 1: and not one, not two, but three Peter Sellers. I
Speaker 1: mean that is, you know, so amazing, and you know,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure everybody says the Godfather, but those two
Speaker 1: movies Godfather and Godfather too really, which are just one
Speaker 1: movie to me? I just would I can't watch one
Speaker 1: without the other. And then I love Local Hero, I
Speaker 1: mean Local Hero is a perfect little film as well.
Speaker 1: Apocalypse Now was huge to me. That was the other
Speaker 1: movie that I said was my favorite movie for many
Speaker 1: many years and maybe still is. I mean, I can
Speaker 1: watch if if Apocalypse Now is on. I just I
Speaker 1: just undone. You know Martin Sheen saying Charlie was in
Speaker 1: the jungle, you know it's it's it. So they're just
Speaker 1: too many, and I apologize for that. I think it's
Speaker 1: copping out. I agree, but I love movies too much
Speaker 1: to just pick one the same way I could never.
Speaker 1: I'm afraid you're gonna have to. I'm gonna pick it
Speaker 1: up from your list. You're gonna have a strange love.
Speaker 1: Because I said that and that say, oh good, it
Speaker 1: is such a good movie. And I was so grateful
Speaker 1: to my daughter. When I showed it to her and
Speaker 1: she loved it, I just thought, all right, I did
Speaker 1: this right. I raised this kid, right, this is the
Speaker 1: last fifteen years. We're done correctly. Yeah. Now, as a
Speaker 1: reward for watching Doctor Strange lab, let's put on a
Speaker 1: monster as best as Aliens again? Oh, oh, Gynomica. What's
Speaker 1: the film that you could or have? What's the most
Speaker 1: over and over again other than Casablanca? Maybe? Right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: La Confidential is one of those movies that it's such
Speaker 1: it's candy, you know, it's it's movie candy. It's everybody
Speaker 1: in it is great. They look great. It had the
Speaker 1: film noir thing mixed, but it's faster than a film noir.
Speaker 1: I love I love that movie, and I've seen it
Speaker 1: a lot of times, and if it's on, there's no
Speaker 1: way I'm going to bed, you know. I mean, especially
Speaker 1: if if I'd had a pointer too, then it's just
Speaker 1: it's we're going to go to that very last scene
Speaker 1: when Guy Pierce is is, Oh no, it's not Guy Pierce,
Speaker 1: it's the other one. Can you can you help me
Speaker 1: with the name here? Right? Russell Crowe is riding off
Speaker 1: into the in the in the back of the cab
Speaker 1: with help me with the name again him, Kim Basinger,
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. It's early. Um it's ten now actually,
Speaker 1: but yeah, that's that's a great movie to just watch
Speaker 1: over and over again. There are dozens of these though.
Speaker 1: I mean I watched Willie Nelson's movie Honeysuckle Rose maybe
Speaker 1: twenty five times when I was a kid, because when
Speaker 1: I was growing up, we first got showtime, we first
Speaker 1: got you know the sort of we got showtime on cable,
Speaker 1: so it was you could watch a movie over and
Speaker 1: over and over again when it was on. So I
Speaker 1: remember watching that and I love still to this day.
Speaker 1: I love Willie Nelson. I think he's one of the
Speaker 1: great iconic songwriters and artists of the twentieth century and
Speaker 1: has a voice that is I mean, he's like his
Speaker 1: voice is like Humphrey Bogart's face, you know, it's like
Speaker 1: it's not perfect and it's the greatest. So anyway, that's
Speaker 1: the other one I would say is Honey Honeysuckle Rose
Speaker 1: by Willie Nelson, which is, um, maybe a far inferior
Speaker 1: movie too. What is it is it? I don't know
Speaker 1: that film is he It's just it's basically Willie Nelson.
Speaker 1: It's him, but he's got another name and the story
Speaker 1: of yea, but not really, it's a it's a fictional
Speaker 1: it's a fictional story about a guy who's exactly like
Speaker 1: Willie Nelson out on the road, ends up having an
Speaker 1: affair with his best friend and long time you know,
Speaker 1: a long time like road manager's daughter. Who is Amy
Speaker 1: Irving Um who was delightful um and she's you know
Speaker 1: this country garril talking like this, and she's a nice
Speaker 1: Jewish girl. You know, it doesn't it didn't really fit,
Speaker 1: but I didn't care because she was just so amazing.
Speaker 1: And she was Slim Pickens daughter, the friend Um who
Speaker 1: who who's the father of Willie's anyway, it was Slim
Speaker 1: Pickens who rode the the atomic momb down to Russia
Speaker 1: and blew up the world at the end. Oh shit,
Speaker 1: that's a spoiler, sorry guys about doctor Strange lace Um.
Speaker 1: So anyway, that but it's yeah, so there's a lot
Speaker 1: of there's a lot of great Um. He sings on
Speaker 1: the road again live on stage. It's just one of those.
Speaker 1: It's a as far as being a musician and a
Speaker 1: songwriting fan, it's it's it's really worth watching. That's all.
Speaker 1: Thank you the end by critics, we don't have to
Speaker 1: be too negative, so do it quick. What's the worst
Speaker 1: family ever? So this is pretty funny because I I
Speaker 1: don't like saying that's the worst thing. As a matter
Speaker 1: of fact, I've actually called um someone a cunt on
Speaker 1: Twitter for saying worst band ever, Steely Dan, you question Mark,
Speaker 1: you know, and I mean it was I got so
Speaker 1: mad that I called him a cunt and got kicked
Speaker 1: off for a day or two. But um um, I hate.
Speaker 1: I hate the idea of the worst thing. It's like,
Speaker 1: don't talk about the best. However, having said that, having
Speaker 1: said that, and this is this is all about you,
Speaker 1: having you know, as I was preparing to be on
Speaker 1: your your fabulous podcast, I did listen to that Patton
Speaker 1: Oswalt thing and Patton Oswald said his the best movie
Speaker 1: ever was Murder on the Orient Express, which I then watched.
Speaker 1: Because Patton Oswald said that, and because you had Patton
Speaker 1: Oswald on your goddamn show and that is such a
Speaker 1: bad movie, I am so sorry. That is the most
Speaker 1: I know. I'm trying, you could tell I'm trying to
Speaker 1: regenerate my career by getting in some sort of a
Speaker 1: battle with anyone who's who's famous. But I was so
Speaker 1: I mean, and my wife and I just kept looking
Speaker 1: at each other and just going, I mean, Ingrid Bergman
Speaker 1: won the Oscar for Best Supporting Actress, and I love
Speaker 1: Ingrid Bergman with all my heart, soul and body. But
Speaker 1: she was just like, it's just so stilted and wooden.
Speaker 1: And everyone has an accent that they did not have before.
Speaker 1: And and m Albert Finney, one of the greatest actors
Speaker 1: of all time, is just his his his French accent
Speaker 1: is or his Belgian accent is so bad and his
Speaker 1: uh anyway, I did not enjoy that movie. It's not
Speaker 1: the worst movie you ever made, but I thought it
Speaker 1: was kind of funny that I was forced to watch
Speaker 1: it by your goddamn podcast. This, I mean, this is
Speaker 1: the pope quite war against Patton. This is gonna bring
Speaker 1: This is gonna bring my career back. Baby, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be on the pop charts spy February. Pat do you
Speaker 1: hearing this? Oh, oh, oh my god. I mean John
Speaker 1: gilgud he might, he might, I mean, he sold out
Speaker 1: a lot in his letter latter years. But this no, sorry, anyway,
Speaker 1: I can go on, um say it. Let's wait, what
Speaker 1: what is what's the fun? What's the film that I do?
Speaker 1: Laugh the most? Hands down, without a doubt, Best in Show?
Speaker 1: Christopher Guests movie Best in Show. It's It's a It's
Speaker 1: one of his many mockumentaries and dogs in it and
Speaker 1: you love dogs. I love dogs. I didn't actually realize
Speaker 1: I loved dogs as much as I do when I
Speaker 1: saw the movie. It probably did influence me. But my god,
Speaker 1: I mean, the cast, every scene. I'm on the floor
Speaker 1: still every scene. Everyone is so great. I mean, and
Speaker 1: I could just you know, I could reel off the names,
Speaker 1: but it's just Christopher Guest is brilliant, and his brilliance
Speaker 1: leans a lot on just knowing all the funniest people
Speaker 1: in show business, the funniest actors, and putting them there
Speaker 1: and saying, Okay, what we have to do with this
Speaker 1: scene because it's you know, as you know, it's mostly
Speaker 1: it's mostly bad lives, his stuff improvised, and so it's like,
Speaker 1: this is where we have to be at the end
Speaker 1: of this scene. Go and when you've got you know
Speaker 1: who's in that bevy? I mean, Christopher guestes and Michael McKean, Um,
Speaker 1: Fred Willard, I mean Fred Willard, you know, doing the Commentarry.
Speaker 1: It's just he's unbelievable. It's brilliant. Anyway, love that movie.
Speaker 1: Love all of Christopher Guest movies, and I love the
Speaker 1: sort of genesis of all of those, which is not
Speaker 1: a Christopher Guest movie. It's Rob Reiner movie Spinal Tap,
Speaker 1: which is maybe that's Can we go back and say
Speaker 1: that that's the best movie I made? Yeah, you kind
Speaker 1: of say, I put, okay, yeah, I think that it's
Speaker 1: that's and that you know, was a Rob Reiner movie.
Speaker 1: But obviously Christopher Guest had a lot to do with
Speaker 1: with it because he then made a career of making
Speaker 1: films like that. So there you go go. I might
Speaker 1: go upstairs and watch that after this. Okay, that will
Speaker 1: be a lovely day. You're upstairs, aren't you. You're in
Speaker 1: the top floor. I'm in the I'm in the basement.
Speaker 1: It's dikes. You have been wonderful. Thank you for doing this. Now. However,
Speaker 1: when you went a mountain biking just around the corner,
Speaker 1: you were going through the local woods, you were having
Speaker 1: a great out time. You're going very fast, you're very
Speaker 1: good at mountain bike very and you were sort of daydreaming.
Speaker 1: As you were doing you started to think of something
Speaker 1: and you were slightly distracted, and a tree branch that
Speaker 1: was perfectly spiked was in front of you, and you
Speaker 1: turned to look at it, and it went straight through
Speaker 1: your heart. And then the speed you were going, it
Speaker 1: went all the way through your heart. The bike kept going,
Speaker 1: your body was just hanging. And then because of your
Speaker 1: weight and what the tree did, you then split down
Speaker 1: the middle. Your body fell, your head split in half,
Speaker 1: and your body fell to the ground in So it's
Speaker 1: so it's not going to be an open casket a funeral,
Speaker 1: is what you're saying. Listen, definitely not yea. So so
Speaker 1: I came along. I was like, I thought, where's kin Staggers?
Speaker 1: I thought he was going to be knocking around the place,
Speaker 1: go for a walk in the woods. I find you
Speaker 1: what you discovered me? What a mess? Jesus. It's a mess.
Speaker 1: And you're like you things have grown on you, people,
Speaker 1: animals have been eating you. There's like, it's a fucking mess.
Speaker 1: There's a lot more of you than I was expecting.
Speaker 1: I have a coffin with me, as I often do.
Speaker 1: But the coffin i'd brought was the size of you.
Speaker 1: I wasn't expecting all this extra stuff, all these branches
Speaker 1: and bits of lucky lucky. Yeah. Anyway, So I get
Speaker 1: that spike that killed you, I snap it off and
Speaker 1: then I start carving you up with it, just to
Speaker 1: make some room in the coffee. Carving up. I mean,
Speaker 1: most of you was already an absolute mess. But I've
Speaker 1: got anyway, stuff all the bits of you into the coffin.
Speaker 1: But there's more of you than I was expecting. And
Speaker 1: the coffin is absolutely jammed packed, and there's no room.
Speaker 1: There's no room in it. There's there's enough room for
Speaker 1: me to slide one day in the side, for you
Speaker 1: to take to the other side. And on the other side,
Speaker 1: it's movie night every night, and one night it's your
Speaker 1: movie night. What film are you taking to show everyone
Speaker 1: when it's Kuyt Stiger's movie night Inhabit, Well, it's going
Speaker 1: to be a bit of a cheat because it's a
Speaker 1: concert film, but it's more than that. Is directed by
Speaker 1: Martin Scorsese, Benet kats Yeah, exactly, and it's called The
Speaker 1: Last Waltz and it is it is? Is it a
Speaker 1: film at least that you know. Basically, it's the film
Speaker 1: of the final concert by my favorite rock band ever,
Speaker 1: my favorite band ever, the band Robbie Robertson, Levon helm
Speaker 1: Rick Danko, Richard Manuel, and Garth Hudson. But it's a
Speaker 1: bunch of their friends as well, which includes Joni Mitchell
Speaker 1: whom I love, Neil Young whom I love, Doctor John
Speaker 1: whom I love, Van Morrison whom I love, Bob Dylan,
Speaker 1: who doesn't love, and on and on. It's it's a
Speaker 1: muddy waters is in it there. This is amazing live
Speaker 1: concert footage mixed with them chatting, especially Robbie and Levan
Speaker 1: talking about, you know, the early days of the band
Speaker 1: touring and the stories that they tell, and it's it's
Speaker 1: a it's so amazing. I until recently, until it was
Speaker 1: harder to until you didn't have VA VCRs. Through the
Speaker 1: time that you had VCRs, I would always have that
Speaker 1: playing in the whatever the not the green room, but
Speaker 1: when when I made albums at the studio, it would
Speaker 1: be in the kitchen or wherever we hung out in
Speaker 1: between takes. I would just have it on on a loop.
Speaker 1: So we just go in and one time we'd be
Speaker 1: looking at you know, Muddy Waters singing Managed Boy, or
Speaker 1: we'd be looking at Doctor John singing such a night. Um,
Speaker 1: it's so good. And there's another section of that where
Speaker 1: they're on a sound stage. They recorded some things again.
Speaker 1: They did the way you know, take the load off
Speaker 1: and the load three. They did that the staple singers,
Speaker 1: and they did it on a sound stage after the concert,
Speaker 1: maybe because the version that they did in concert wasn't
Speaker 1: quite right. And it seems like they're dead. You know,
Speaker 1: we've we've come to this a lot. It seems like
Speaker 1: when you go to those sound and Emmy Lou Harris
Speaker 1: the same thing, they do a song with her, and
Speaker 1: it's it's sort of it's out of time completely. And
Speaker 1: it seems like not only did the band break up
Speaker 1: and stop touring and all and making records, but they
Speaker 1: died and they went to heaven and they and they
Speaker 1: got to make music with Navis Staples. So I love
Speaker 1: that movie. Couldn't recommend it more. I might after I
Speaker 1: watch Local Hero this afternoon, I might go ahead and
Speaker 1: watch that as well. That is a very lovely answer
Speaker 1: to people in heaven. Again. I love it. It was
Speaker 1: a long answer too. I apologize for that before you, guy,
Speaker 1: and give us one simple tip for singing. But people
Speaker 1: listening who would like to learn how to sing, learn
Speaker 1: how to breathe correctly. And I could teach you that,
Speaker 1: but it would take too long. It's all about breathing.
Speaker 1: I can sing because I was a clarinet player and
Speaker 1: I had a I had a a clarinet teacher who
Speaker 1: made me put my hand on his stomach while he
Speaker 1: played a note on a clarinet and it was not pleasant.
Speaker 1: He didn't make me touch him anywhere else, but it
Speaker 1: kind of had that feeling. I mean, I'm still a
Speaker 1: little bit scarred by it. But you have to you
Speaker 1: have to support your voice, so do that. Also. Um,
Speaker 1: beer beer is really good for singing. I've found I've
Speaker 1: found just having having I sing a lot better when
Speaker 1: I've had a drinking and kind stagers. Is there anything
Speaker 1: you would like people to look out for to watch
Speaker 1: for to listen to you before you guys? Well, um,
Speaker 1: you could, Um, well, there's we did the interface sanctuary
Speaker 1: dot org. There's there. There will be a streaming concert
Speaker 1: m so you can find that there. My website is
Speaker 1: Kurtis Steiger's dot com. I'm on Patreon unless I can't
Speaker 1: figure out how to upload videos anymore, which I'm having
Speaker 1: trouble with. So i may just be no on Patreon,
Speaker 1: but I've got a lot of things on Instagram. I've
Speaker 1: got a lot of little I've made little movies of
Speaker 1: part partial songs. I've written these little songs as the
Speaker 1: Trump debacle has ended. As the right at the end
Speaker 1: of the thingy the election, I started writing these little songs.
Speaker 1: I would just sit down in front of the thing
Speaker 1: and just write it. And I think those are pretty funny.
Speaker 1: I think I'm not going to make any money off
Speaker 1: of those, but I'm really proud of them, which is
Speaker 1: kind of the problem with my whole career. It's tigers,
Speaker 1: thank you very much for doing this. I hope you
Speaker 1: have a lovely death. Good night. Thank you, Bratt. It
Speaker 1: was lovely to see you. So that was episode one
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty eight. Head over to patreon dot com
Speaker 1: forward lets Brett Goldstein for the extra twenty five minutes
Speaker 1: of Chat Secret. It's a video with Curtis. Go to
Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts and give us a five star writing if
Speaker 1: you will, and instead of writing about the show, right
Speaker 1: about the film that means the most to you. And
Speaker 1: why it's a very nice thing to read. Does help numbers,
Speaker 1: and I really appreciate you. Thank you very much to
Speaker 1: Curtis for giving me his time. Thank you to Scrubious
Speaker 1: Pittman and attract some pieces of network. Thanks to Buddy
Speaker 1: Peace for producing it. Thanks to ACAS for hosting it.
Speaker 1: Thanks to Adam Richardson for the graphics, at least allay
Speaker 1: them for the photography. I've got to say this right.
Speaker 1: Coming up in the next few weeks, I've recorded so
Speaker 1: many incredible guests. I'm not going to say who's up
Speaker 1: next to what order they will be coming out, but
Speaker 1: little heads up, he's entreats for you. Has the name
Speaker 1: Julian Barrett? Sound yeah you like that? What about Noel Clark? What? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got him too? What about m oh no, I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what the rest of the secrets I've already
Speaker 1: I've said too much. Matthew Crosby, Yeah, he's coming back.
Speaker 1: I've said too much. All right, that's it. So that
Speaker 1: is all I need to say for now, except to
Speaker 1: say thank you to everyone who has been listening to
Speaker 1: this podcast. I hope you have a lovely week and
Speaker 1: a brilliant new year, and please now more than ever
Speaker 1: be excellent to each other.