1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: It's just a question of are you going to habitually 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: run into these stretches where he like goes down for 3 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: six weeks and then he comes back and he's searching 4 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: for it. 5 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 2: Welcome into north Side Territory. Foul Territory Networks Cubs Podcast. 6 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 2: I'm Sahadev Sharma, your Cubs beat writer. Over at the Athletic. 7 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 2: Patrick Mooney is on vacation on the Jersey Shore. Jim 8 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 2: tann laundry all week long. For Patrick. I don't know 9 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 2: if anybody gets that reference. It's like fifteen years. 10 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 3: Old, right, It sounds like a hell for Patrick. 11 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 2: That is the voice of James Vegan. He covers the 12 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 2: White Sox for Socks Machine. One of the best writers 13 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 2: out there, not just for the socks but beat writers, writers, 14 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 2: sports writers. 15 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 4: You name it. 16 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 2: James is at or near the top of the list 17 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 2: in my opinion. Also a good friend. Really happy to 18 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 2: see him succeed in the ways he has. He just 19 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 2: knows how to talk to people and write about baseball 20 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 2: in ways that that's it's it's rare and and I 21 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 2: love watching him do his do his thing. And he 22 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 2: is uh busy right now, he is, you know, thankfully 23 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 2: James is able to join us, but Peter Griffold just 24 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 2: got fired by the White Sox. 25 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 4: We're recording on a Thursday. 26 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 2: Uh, so this is this is the breaking news, James. 27 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 2: This isn't a surprise. Everyone kind of knew this was coming. Uh, 28 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 2: but you know, I think it's right now. This is 29 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 2: pre Chris gets talking to you guys, uh, kind of 30 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 2: what what's the state of things right now? What what's 31 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 2: what are your expectations for these next two months? And 32 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 2: and what do you think this team will be looking for? 33 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 2: Skip Shoemaker? 34 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: Maybe I would like, obviously, they're like one of the 35 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: worst teams in Major League history, in cluely the worst 36 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: team in baseball right now. I would say, like, and 37 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: this isn't like profound analysis for a team that has 38 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: twenty two of twenty three, but like their play like 39 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: noticeably fell off another cliff, like during the Pirates series 40 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: right before the All Star break and then continued, They've 41 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: had stretches, Like their starting pitching has been you know, 42 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 1: finish most turns most of the way through the rotation. Certainly, 43 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: like I don't know, Andrew Ben and Tenney's like randomly 44 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: been decent. 45 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 3: Uh, you know since the break. 46 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: Uh, there's there's a way I could see them playing 47 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: at a level where they don't set the all time 48 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: record for losses, because like the last four weeks have 49 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: been like a noticeable step down in some way. And 50 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: I'm not in certainly Cubs fans who are enjoying the 51 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: investment in credit Council right now. I'm not a big 52 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: like managers or Saviors believer, but this was something that 53 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: was kind of lingering over like everyone, all the players 54 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: certainly knew that Pedro was up to be fired since 55 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: three and twenty two start to the season. So to 56 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: see some sort of lift or breaking the clouds or 57 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: just kind of clarity, you know, now that they're through 58 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: the trade deadline and now they're through the coaching change 59 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: that has felt inevitable for three four months, I could 60 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,119 Speaker 1: see them improving their play or being a bit sharper 61 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 1: over down the stretch. I certain they don't think, like 62 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: Lewis Robert to be this bad for two more months 63 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: would be surprising. And you know, with Miguel Vargas, with 64 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: Brooks Baldwin, they have a number of guys who at 65 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: least this year. 66 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 3: Of like torch triple A or Torch double. 67 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: A who are going to get more acclimated and you know, 68 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: presumably play better down the stretch in a way where 69 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: you know, maybe they don't lose one hundred and twenty 70 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: five games. So I guess that would be my expectation 71 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: is I don't I don't think this is gonna be 72 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: quite like Joejiurrity to round Topson level of transition. But 73 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: I think we've seen some historical examples in the last 74 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: couple of years of a team getting released from a 75 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: manager who, depending on your you know, persuasion, is either 76 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: pretty bad or a pretty bad fit, or some combination 77 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: of both, and doing a little bit better when they 78 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: and they finally cut the court. 79 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, so there's some value in that. 80 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 2: Obviously, some would say, like, what's the point in firing Griffold. 81 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 2: The season's lost. It's not like they're making the playoffs. 82 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 2: Like you said, this isn't going Yeah. So I think 83 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 2: avoiding history like that type of history is is significant 84 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 2: matters right, Like it matters to the players like it 85 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 2: has to I would think, have you is it something 86 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 2: that you've discussed with them at all, with the players 87 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 2: like that, like kind of staring down history, whether it's 88 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 2: the losing streak or the or the lost total in general. 89 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 3: It's not their favorite topic. 90 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 1: But yeah, they're aware of it, and yeah they don't 91 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: want any part of it, and you know, it can't 92 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: be like their day to day rallying cry like let's 93 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: not be the worst team ever. But it's something that 94 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: they're they're cognitive and they've all been asked about a 95 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: different intervals of the season. So yeah, I think it, 96 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: and it's something that Pedro Gafall, you know, admitted that 97 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 1: he kind of said at the All Star break, he 98 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 1: addressed the team and said that they wouldn't want to 99 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: set the worst record of all time. They responded by 100 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: losing their first seventeen games after the All Star break, 101 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:23,559 Speaker 1: so great meeting. There's a little bit of dispute about 102 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 1: how much he put it like we need to do this, 103 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: and how much he put it as you guys need 104 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: to do this and you know, maybe he'll respond to 105 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 1: a text or call for me and set the record straight. 106 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: He denied, you know, the way that he put it 107 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: on the players at the time, but yeah, like they 108 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: just didn't respond to this guy. Like it's almost like clarifying, 109 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: like you know, a lot of you know, firing David 110 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: Ross last season, is was he really to blame? 111 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 3: Was it? Is someone really going to do better? Does 112 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 3: takes really work out? 113 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: There's no other ambiguity here, Like clearly this wasn't working 114 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 1: like the things you preached when he came on. They're 115 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: awful at like they're the worst defense in the league. 116 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: Maybe they're twenty ninth. 117 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 3: By some metrics. He's a former hitting coach. 118 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: He talked a lot about like we're going to talk 119 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: about how they need to prepare for the vertical movement 120 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: on this fastball and use a lot of like analytic 121 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: language to prepare them and make good swing decisions. They 122 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: make terrible swing decisions. They're the worst offense in forty years. 123 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: They're probably only like twenty eighth or twenty ninth and 124 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: walk great, but like miserable, like just not a coherent 125 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: team played approach. 126 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 3: Like it's almost. 127 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: Refreshing after like all the politics of Tony Russa or 128 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: Rick Reneria getting pushed aside that it's just like, well, 129 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: he was clearly the worst manager of the worst team 130 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: in baseball. They needed to make a change, they should 131 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 1: have done it sooner, and we're not searching for the 132 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 1: reason present here. 133 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,559 Speaker 2: I think when there's going to be some Cubs fans 134 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 2: that hear the answer to your first question. To the 135 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 2: first question I asked because you talked about how you 136 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 2: know that they're probably yeah, I assume they're better than 137 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 2: the twenty one losing, twenty one game losing streak they 138 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 2: went through and that was a step down, and maybe 139 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 2: maybe there's a little bounce here. Cubs fans are terrified 140 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 2: that's coming this weekend. I'm curious Crochet is going on Friday. 141 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 2: I am not clear on how they're using him. How 142 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 2: long of a leash he has is there, like even 143 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 2: like is five innings out of the question for him? 144 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 2: How are they using him? What should Cubs fans expect 145 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 2: for Crochet, because that's going to be the big hurdle 146 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 2: in my opinion, once they get to the bullpen, the 147 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 2: Cubs will probably have a good chance. But although the 148 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 2: Cubs have handled solid pitching lately decently, this offense is 149 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 2: it's been ten days ish, maybe less of decent offense, 150 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 2: but still I think Garret Crochet is obviously one of 151 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 2: the better pitchers in the game. How much should the 152 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 2: Cubs expect to see him how long. 153 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: I guess now the person who's gone on record about 154 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: the plan for him most recently doesn't work for the 155 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: organization anymore. With the grain of salt, but he hasn't 156 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: gone beyond like the seventy five pitch range recently, and 157 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: that's usually limited him to like around four innings. If 158 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: he's like, if he's going through guys at like ten 159 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: pitches in INNY, he could get the five I see 160 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: that easily. He hasn't been particularly sharp since the All 161 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: Star break. I you know, it's not like a pacific 162 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: like velocity decline. 163 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 3: Or anything like that, but he's starting to look. 164 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: Like a guy who's maybe you know, has blew away 165 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: his career high in innings, you know, a couple of 166 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,599 Speaker 1: months ago, and it is maybe you know, hitting a 167 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: little bit of a wall. I'm sure you could shut 168 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: me up and correct that, but you know, it's four 169 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: walks to two strikeouts his last outing. He's been ambushing 170 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:48,079 Speaker 1: the first inning a couple outings since the break. I 171 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: don't know if I would quite view him as the 172 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: boogeyman for the Cubs in the way, and you know, 173 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: you're probably going to get multiple innings from kind of 174 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 1: a right handed long relief guy, whether Chad Cool or 175 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: you know, they just used Tooky Dessant and leverage the 176 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: other day, so maybe him. But you're you're gonna get 177 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: like there's gonna be a soft underbelly to a Crochet 178 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 1: start just because of how they have to fill out 179 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: the innings, on top of the fact that this is 180 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:21,959 Speaker 1: like the leakiest like bullpen ever in terms of like 181 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: which I you know, everyone should be well aware with of, 182 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: you know, since what they saw at Wrigley Field, and 183 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,439 Speaker 1: you know, the guys are gone even so, I mean 184 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: they closed out their one win since the since the 185 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: All Star break with dominic Leone and his first appearance 186 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 1: like after missing two and a half months with elbow soreness. 187 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 3: I can't even remember the middle guy. 188 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: And like John Brebbia, who you know has had stretches 189 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: of being really good this year and but also has 190 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: a six R like that, Like, I don't think like 191 00:09:58,200 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: Crochet is going. 192 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 3: We don't kind of have a cha ants should be 193 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 3: the mindset. 194 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: Of of of Cubs fans that there'll there'll be, you know, 195 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: a moment to strike at some point. 196 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 2: So my understanding is that the Cubs will like a 197 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 2: Cubs white sox trate just isn't a realistic thing to happen, 198 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 2: but uh, you know not at least going forward. There's 199 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 2: going to be a tax if that happens. My like 200 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 2: Jed Jed hoyerd isn't interested in paying that tax. But 201 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 2: I know that there was They checked in on both 202 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:39,199 Speaker 2: on Crochet at least uh on Robert. I think Robert 203 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 2: would be an interesting acquisition for the Cubs. They need 204 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 2: a superstar bat. I know he's not performing like a 205 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 2: superstar bat right now, but it's kind of the It's 206 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 2: the type of risk you you make if you're if 207 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 2: you're searching for that superstar and you're not willing to 208 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 2: give Juan Soto five hundred million dollars and if lag 209 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 2: Jor isn't available. 210 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 4: I don't know if it's a fit. I like Pca. 211 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 2: I think he's becoming he's turning a corner offensively. 212 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 4: So is Robert a fit? That outfield is already crowded? 213 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 2: So many things we could discuss there, But do you 214 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 2: think Robert still has that in him? Is he is 215 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 2: he capable of being that star that he was? What 216 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 2: it was as recent as last year, he was he 217 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 2: looked like a star. Mike right on that maybe it 218 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 2: was two years ago, but. 219 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: He's last year as long as he felt that it 220 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: was actually last year. 221 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 2: Does he does he have that in him? Or is 222 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 2: this is this a guy like what what's happening this year? 223 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 2: And and do you think he has that level still 224 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 2: in him? 225 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:38,319 Speaker 3: I think so. 226 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:42,559 Speaker 1: He's had stretches of being really good this year a 227 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: little bit after he came out of off of injury 228 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: as much as like his strikeouts have absolutely exploded and 229 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: he's swinging through fastballs and it's really weird. I think 230 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: his general chase stats are all pretty much down, which 231 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: is kind of encouraging progress. It's kind of like the 232 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 1: main question in his profile. Uh so, it's weird that 233 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: hasn't clicked. I think the concern is like the consistency 234 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: you're gonna get it with, like, especially if he's now 235 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: had those hip flexor injury twice. It's probably the big 236 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: You're probably I think we'll see stretches of Robert looking 237 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 1: like Robert and you know, maybe another like you know, 238 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: five wins season uh here and there, maybe multiple. I 239 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: wouldn't question him. I think he's still like a you 240 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: know prodigious raw talent. It's just a question of are 241 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: you gonna habitually run into these stretches where he like 242 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 1: goes down for six weeks and then he comes back 243 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: and he's searching for it. Like he's just looked extremely 244 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: like out of sync since the All Star break in 245 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: a way where he just, you know, it was really 246 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: putting together bad at bats yesterday too, where he's like 247 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: staring at fastballs and then he gets in swing mode. 248 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 3: He's swinging at. 249 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: Sweepers two feet off the plate and it's you know, 250 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 1: he's making contact because he has a lot of bats 251 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: feed and like, uh, you know, some some skill for 252 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: for bats of ball despite you know, the huge strikeout 253 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: rates and the huge whiff rates just from all the chasing. 254 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: It's just like how consistent they're going to be if 255 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: he's going to have interruptions, And I think that would 256 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: be like the scary thing. And certainly I think there's 257 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: plenty of Cups fans who would probably think PCA is 258 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 1: gonna one day be better than them anyway. But if 259 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: you if you come out and you're having him play 260 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: and like hold April Weather off the lake and he's 261 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: stinking and he gets hurt, and I think it's there's 262 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: a there's an easy way for it to look like 263 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: a disaster right off the bat if you train from 264 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 1: the off season. And I also think like a big 265 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 1: component is that, like the White Sox one didn't do 266 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 1: very well with this deadline, and to know that Robert 267 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: is mercurial but also like the highest ceiling player and 268 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: like in their organization, uh to to a degree, so 269 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: they want to sell him at a high point and 270 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: that's going to one up the premium of the costs, 271 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: but also it's going to make it maybe not like 272 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: the easiest thing to pry away during the offseason if 273 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: he kind of still has kind of this mess season 274 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:01,319 Speaker 1: like they I think they would still view him getting hot. 275 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: And you're selling two and a half years of control 276 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: next dead line as like a better window than like 277 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: would you like to buy a damage Luise Robert at 278 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: full price during the off season. 279 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 2: So that I was going to ask that it's not 280 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 2: a guarantee that he's traded this offseason, And the same 281 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 2: question with Crochet, do you do you expect Crochet traded 282 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 2: this offseason. 283 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: That I would be less surprised by one they've been 284 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: like just talking so openly about trading him, uh for 285 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: a while now. I certainly don't think like the relationship 286 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: is you know, they both insisted that they're good after 287 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: like kind of the fallout, but for him to forget 288 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: to kind of publicly basically take issue with CIA with 289 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: the fact that, like, you know, the kind of word 290 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: is that, like they're not really looking for an extension. 291 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: I don't think, like, you know, his representation fairly thinks 292 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: like he's probably well, he's not going to get it 293 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: rewarded in arb the way he should because of that, 294 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: no team is really going to structure like buying out 295 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: his arbitration years at the price point they would want 296 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: is like a number one starter. So beyond like the 297 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: White Sox revenue situation being kind of a mess and 298 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: me not thinking they're going to pony up for a 299 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: big starting picture. No real history of you know, extending 300 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: a picture like a high cost It's not usually like 301 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: Yarry's bag, like they extended Crossale and cris Close at Cantana, 302 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: but those are really low risk moves at the price 303 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: point they got and they kind of wanted. Lucas Giolio 304 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: at the Aaron Nola costs the first Aaron Nola extension 305 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: and when he balked at that like that, those talks 306 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: didn't move any further. So they've never really like locked 307 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: up an elite picture at anything other than like hometown 308 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: discount costs. So it'd be surprising, especially at this juncture, 309 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: if they're able to do that for a crochet. And 310 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: just like with Cease, I think it's by the off 311 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: season there won't be like the workload concerns of like 312 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: is he going to be able to pitch on the 313 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: stretch and you're not going to inherit the risk of 314 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: taking a starting picture into the season and hoping he 315 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: doesn't get hurt and the coping he performs at. 316 00:15:58,680 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 3: The top level. 317 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: So I could see that happening a lot more easily 318 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: the Robert when they have an extra year of control 319 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: and maybe a bit more reason to think like he'll 320 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: mash if he's healthy and comes and has a normal offseason. 321 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 2: Last one, James and and I look, I'm I'm curious 322 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 2: what you think here because I I don't think it's 323 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 2: a debate, But there are people I've heard talk about 324 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 2: what which season is tougher for fans? The what the 325 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 2: white Sox are going through when you expect them to 326 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 2: be bad. Not only are they bad, they're historically bad, 327 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 2: arguably the worst team ever. 328 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 4: Or a team like the Cubs. 329 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 2: A lot of fans expected them to be good in 330 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 2: the playoff hunt and the disappointed I think I think 331 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 2: it's easy for me to say it's the White Sox 332 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 2: and their fans, but maybe expectations really way heavily here 333 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 2: and and when when you're you're able to check out 334 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 2: as a fan. But it's got to be painful to 335 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 2: have to be a fan of a team that could 336 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 2: be known as the worst team ever and and is 337 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 2: being talked about that way and is generally not given 338 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 2: a lot of national relevance, and now that they are, 339 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 2: it's for really bad things like That's I can't imagine 340 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 2: that's easy for a fan base. Maybe fans don't care 341 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 2: about that last part, about the national relevance part, and 342 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 2: and they just want their team to be good. 343 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 4: How what? How have White Sox fans handled this? 344 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 3: How? 345 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 4: Not well of course? 346 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 2: But do you think it's like from your observations here, 347 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 2: you're online like I am, you see how fans react. 348 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 2: Do you think Cubs fans have a tougher season this year, 349 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 2: or is it White Sox fans. 350 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: I would like to think there's a sect of like 351 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: normy White Sox fans who just want like their team 352 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: to win and do well and not be a disgrace, 353 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 1: like I think my mom wants them to like not 354 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:53,439 Speaker 1: like thinks this miserable season, uh is worse than a 355 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: team where that's you know, at least interesting and competitive 356 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: on a basis, or provides you like entertainment value pretty 357 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 1: regularly over the course of the season. I think it's 358 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,479 Speaker 1: more of like the long term plan type fan who's like, 359 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 1: we were trying to contend and we didn't, so thus 360 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,479 Speaker 1: we didn't capitalize on our window correctly, or you know, 361 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 1: we're not in our window, so the games are meaningless. 362 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: I think that's more of an online version of the fan. 363 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 1: I would say that those people of the White Sox 364 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 1: fan base, they're like through the looking glass, they're like 365 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 1: near I want this organization to be embarrassed at the 366 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 1: highest level. I want like Jerry Reinstorf to be getting 367 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 1: scorched to national media. I want this to reflect this 368 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:36,360 Speaker 1: poorly and all these people I've grown to resent as possible, 369 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: so some of them are actively rooting for them to 370 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: set a record. I don't think that's maybe as much 371 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: as like the silent majority is like a Richard Nixon concept. 372 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 3: I think there's a I. 373 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 1: Think like the more casual fan who tunes in wants, 374 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 1: like you know, the television program that they watch so 375 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: often during the summer, to be better and thus like 376 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 1: not lose setting a record, not being like disgraceful, feeling 377 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 1: a bit more pride to like where their you know 378 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 1: team their favorite teams hat and not feeling embarrassed even 379 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,360 Speaker 1: just like playing well in this crosstown series are kind 380 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 1: of simple joys that they wish were short up than this. 381 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: So yeah, I would I would say. 382 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 3: Being at the point where you're just like so negative 383 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 3: about the team in. 384 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 1: Every aspect is worse than you know, being middle of 385 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: the road and kind of frustrated about it. Like, you know, 386 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 1: the Cubs have played some fun games, just even this 387 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: past week, like he seeing that that rally against whoever 388 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 1: it was, where Danzy Swanson had that like game tying 389 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: like double. 390 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,719 Speaker 4: Or yeah, Cardinals something. 391 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 3: I don't know if the White Sox have had a 392 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:45,959 Speaker 3: moment like that this season. 393 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a good point like there there 394 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 2: have been there's been. There was two and a half 395 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 2: months of really bad, frustrating baseball, I would say for 396 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 2: the fans for the Cubs, and this has been four 397 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,479 Speaker 2: full months of terrible baseball for White Sox fans. They 398 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 2: had what like a seven and seven stretch that they 399 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 2: can hang their head on. 400 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 4: That's like my watermark. 401 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 2: Oh, eleven and seven, okay, so they eleven and seven 402 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 2: is like their high water mark. I think this weekend 403 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 2: is as like Patrick and I have been pretty adamant, 404 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 2: like we're not going to write about the games for 405 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 2: a little while. Like once they once, like the post 406 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 2: All Star break, they did not do well out of 407 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 2: the gate, and it's like, Okay, they teased us before 408 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 2: the All Star break, we're taking a break from writing 409 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,360 Speaker 2: about games until they show us that they can get 410 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 2: back in it. This weekend could be that point where 411 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 2: they kind of get If they win both games, they're 412 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 2: one game under five hundred. If they win on Friday, 413 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 2: they're two games under, and that gets them. That's the 414 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 2: first time since I want to say, like late May 415 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 2: that they're that they're two games under. That's that'll be 416 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 2: the closest because the closest they got was the Friday 417 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 2: before the All Star break when they got to three 418 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 2: games under. 419 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 4: So they're three games under again. 420 00:20:59,480 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 2: Uh. 421 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 4: I don't know. I think the Cubs. 422 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 2: I think this is a big weekend for the Cubs, 423 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 2: and it's going to be a big weekend. I think 424 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 2: for White Sox fans, right just like to have some pride, 425 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 2: something to enjoy. 426 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 4: For this season. 427 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 2: If they can kind of say like, hey, we ended 428 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 2: your season two Cubs fans, I think that would be 429 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,439 Speaker 2: nice for White Sox fans. Cubs fans really need this 430 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 2: weekend to go well so they can try and enjoy 431 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 2: the ones that are still paying attention to say like, hey, 432 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 2: maybe there's a chance they get back in this race. 433 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 2: As weird as this deadline was, as weird as this 434 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 2: season has been for the Cubs, the reality is they 435 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 2: didn't sell off and they're arguably a better team than 436 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 2: they were before the deadline. By adding periitis and kind 437 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 2: of shifting things in the bullpen's. They didn't sell enough 438 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 2: to get really bad, so they're going to be in it, 439 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 2: in it, quote unquote for these final two months. It's 440 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 2: just how close they get. I think it's interesting that 441 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 2: this weekend has become so relevant for the Cubs. It'll 442 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 2: be fun in that regard. 443 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 1: I think Socks fans would be a little bit caught 444 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:11,479 Speaker 1: off guard by feeling feelings of any kind kind of 445 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: to have nerve endings work again would be alarming for them. 446 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: And so yeah, maybe being the Cubs would be a thrill. 447 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: And they they'd rally around like spighting the Cubs to 448 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 1: some degree, but they're also they're a broken, disparaged people, 449 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: like they're I don't know if even like rally you know, 450 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 1: like avoiding the all time record is even something that 451 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: would rally behind half the people who a lot of 452 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: responses when I you know, they announced it, just like 453 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: get rid of gets too. The guy who's like it's 454 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: his first year, like and on the one hand, like 455 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 1: I get it, Like he's the architect of possibly the 456 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 1: worst team of all time. He there's plenty of things 457 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: he did this year that like clearly didn't work at all, 458 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:01,679 Speaker 1: Like he signed Martine Maldonado, he signed Mike Leer, he 459 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: signed who was a six y r Like like, while 460 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: that's like simultaneous, like he clearly hasn't at any time 461 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 1: install a plan or you know, even higher a manager. 462 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: Yet like the level of like discussed with everything about 463 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: this team is such that like I don't I don't 464 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: know if like you know, I know what the one 465 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: change that needs to happen for Sox fans to actually 466 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: rally behind this group or feel good about what's going forward. 467 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 1: And it's the one change that can happen until you know, 468 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 1: some larger force. So it's it's a change in ownership. 469 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: So that's not gonna happen via you know, mid season 470 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 1: press release or you know, winning a series against the Cubs. 471 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 3: So true happiness is elusive. 472 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you can say that about everything, James, 473 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 2: everyone in all walks of life, not just white Sox fans. 474 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 4: Thanks so much, James. I'll see you this weekend. 475 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,199 Speaker 2: Looking forward to to chatting and catching up on the 476 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 2: South Side. We'll see if Cubs fans can get back 477 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 2: into things or if white Sox fans feel feelings again 478 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,400 Speaker 2: this is Northside territory. 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