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Speaker 1: in the strated beer of normalcy. Welcome to a midweek

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Speaker 1: edition of One Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you.

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Speaker 1: Ready to talk Bills football, NFL offseason, free agency, maybe

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Speaker 1: do list up there in New England. Plenty to do,

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Speaker 1: also get the thoughts on solving their quarterback problem, because

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Speaker 1: they deal with their own free agency, that's right, because

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Speaker 1: If he's not, if he hasn't been, I don't know

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Speaker 1: if he's even eligible yet. He is absolutely a Hall

430
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Speaker 1: of Fame caliber defensive tackle. It's not even close it.

431
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Speaker 1: He is an absolute first ballot Hall of Fame talent.

432
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Speaker 1: And he was a great and he was a great teammate. Yeah,

433
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Speaker 1: he had this whole I mean with the media. He

434
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Speaker 1: had the whole front like, you know, hey, Tedy, you

435
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,399
Speaker 1: got time for a question? No, but he was it

436
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 1: was like a front. He was joking. But when a

437
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,399
Speaker 1: giant human being acts like that, you back up. And

438
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 1: I heard, I mean, especially when you look like me.

439
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Speaker 1: You inch, you know, I mean, yes, like you know, okay, Ted,

440
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Speaker 1: we'll catch you next week. Thanks. I told you a

441
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Speaker 1: story about how I had a mock wrestling match with

442
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 1: him and it lasted. He was a wrestler, right national

443
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 1: champion and for no heavyweight And it's not a obviously

444
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 1: it's not a fluke that guy. You had a wrestling

445
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Speaker 1: match with him. It lasted literally a second. And what

446
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 1: the hell was wrong with you on that? We're just

447
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 1: kidding around. I was just fooling around. I was like, hey,

448
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Speaker 1: come on, I heard you here, are you still? Are

449
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 1: you really a wrestler? Let me see and we wrestle

450
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Speaker 1: around it. You know, I was, you know, I was

451
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Speaker 1: kind of a quick guy. Right. Well, once he gets

452
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Speaker 1: his hands, his left hand shoots out like a a rattlesnake,

453
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Speaker 1: grabs me in his hands. You know, it's the size

454
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Speaker 1: of a suitcase, grabs my right forearm and with one hand,

455
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Speaker 1: literally one hand, with a grip, he like steers me

456
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Speaker 1: to the ground on and I was like a I

457
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 1: was like a wet beetle on the on my back.

458
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 1: I was like, nah, let go. And it literally took

459
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Speaker 1: it took. It took less time than did it for

460
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,159
Speaker 1: me to tell that story. Yeah. Um, that includes the

461
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 1: circling around for a second. It was that fast. He

462
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Speaker 1: is he was. I mean, he is an absolute, undeniable,

463
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Speaker 1: one of a kind athlete, one of a kind. I said.

464
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,120
Speaker 1: He was on the line. We've seen the highlights here.

465
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Speaker 1: He was on a defensive front with Bryce. You want

466
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Speaker 1: to know why that team was good? Bruce Lived, Ted Washington,

467
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Speaker 1: and Phil Hanson. Yeah, give me those guys. Yeah, that's

468
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Speaker 1: pretty good. Uh. I will tell one story. So it's

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Speaker 1: my first year covering the team full time, ninety seven

470
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Speaker 1: and uh, we're in the locker room or no, maybe

471
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 1: it's a little bit later. But Pat Williams is a

472
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 1: rookie in ninety seven, undrafted free agent makes the roster.

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Speaker 1: Big guy himself about three hund pounds and Pat makes

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Speaker 1: the mistake of teasing Ted and Bruce at the same time.

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Speaker 1: I think he I don't know what he was thinking that.

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Speaker 1: I think he wanted to see how far he could go,

477
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Speaker 1: how far he could PUSH's feeling his oats. He wanted

478
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Speaker 1: to push the buttons a little bit, so he wanted

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Speaker 1: to see how far he could get and to see

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Speaker 1: what the repercussions would be. Well, he found out very

481
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Speaker 1: quickly because he's on the other side of the locker

482
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Speaker 1: room barefoot, you know, just came out of the shower.

483
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Speaker 1: He's got a shorts on, you know, no shirt, nothing,

484
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Speaker 1: and he's, you know, he's hollering over across the locker

485
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Speaker 1: room at Ted about something. I can't even remember what

486
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Speaker 1: the hell it was. And Bruce's like, you better stop talking.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know what was said, but I'm in

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Speaker 1: the locker room. It's open media locker room, and Pat's

489
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,639
Speaker 1: just chirping. And before I turn around and then I

490
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Speaker 1: turn around again, Ted's already got Pat on the ground,

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Speaker 1: flat on his stomach and he's got a roll of

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Speaker 1: medical tape. And I am telling you, dollars to donuts,

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00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 1: he had Pat Williams hog tied in about fifteen seconds

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Speaker 1: with medical tape and he's like help help. He's sounding

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Speaker 1: over the cross the locker room at another defense that

496
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 1: helped me out. I know, it's total guy thing because

497
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 1: guys love each other doing that total hog tied in

498
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 1: fifty seconds, a three hundred pound man completely immobilized. That's unbelievable.

499
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Speaker 1: It is so unbelievable to be in that environment and

500
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Speaker 1: live and work in that environment because you know, a

501
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Speaker 1: guy like me, I I literally look like you know,

502
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,239
Speaker 1: regular Joe, sorry, not even regular Joe. I look like

503
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Speaker 1: I'm ten years old, and I'm like hanging around like

504
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 1: I'm a kid on a street corner compared to these guys, right,

505
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Speaker 1: And you know, just to live and work and have

506
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 1: him and and love and respect those guys and laugh

507
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Speaker 1: with him and tease him and be you know, obviously

508
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Speaker 1: be teased by him. Um. It's a it's an environment

509
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 1: that you can see when when this team and this

510
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: Bill's team goes goes out that is virtually identical to

511
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Speaker 1: the way it was when you got three hundred pounders

512
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 1: wrestling around them. And they still do I mean, you know,

513
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 1: they do good grief. Its usually it is right, It

514
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 1: is why it is why you know, guys become lifelong

515
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,199
Speaker 1: friends because they you know, they laugh like that and

516
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: they hurt, you know, they they tape each other up,

517
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 1: and you know, tape pulls the hair off your arms

518
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: and all. You know, all they eat, but you also

519
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 1: suffer together. And like when Sean McDermott had to go

520
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: back out on the field and retrieve Stephan Diggs after

521
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,199
Speaker 1: the AFC Championship game, he wasn't gonna leave him out

522
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 1: there by himself. And it's and we talk about how

523
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Speaker 1: emotionally involved these guys are. With a guy like Jordan Phillips,

524
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Speaker 1: who man, when he lays it on the line, it's different. Um,

525
00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:00,120
Speaker 1: it is a Pittsburgh game. It is a big ass.

526
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: It's a big ass. That's why people don't even bat

527
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: an eye when a guy like star Lutelele says, you know,

528
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 1: I need a year off, and the guys in New

529
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 1: England all was up there, I need a year off.

530
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: It is a big ask. And that's why I retired.

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00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: I had. I was in a meeting with guys. I

532
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: was in a meeting last night and I said and

533
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: they said, well, you know we're talking about guy, and

534
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: did you retire early or whatever? They asked me, And

535
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 1: I was like listen. I everybody wants to go out

536
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: and play on Sunday afternoon for three hours. You'll do it. Yeah, Yeah,

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00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 1: let's go. The problem is you can't get ready to play. Yeah,

538
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: you're just not It's just not there. It's fun to

539
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: go out and play, man, you can't get ready to play.

540
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 1: It's a big ask. It's a big ass. That's why

541
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 1: when you get these guys these paycheck, you gotta get value.

542
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: You gotta know that when you give that guy that check,

543
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: you gotta have an idea he's gonna turn it up,

544
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: not turn it off. Yeah, And that's a hard thing

545
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: to evaluate, Yes, it is. And the Bills got it

546
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: right on Jordan Phillips. Yeah, not to give him the

547
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: big money because I think they had an idea he

548
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: might not have gotten injured here in Buffalo. But the

549
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: guy on the other side of that coin is Stefan Dicks.

550
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what you pay him. Guy's going hard

551
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 1: every single day and he will raise the level that's

552
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: a competition at practice and make everybody play up today.

553
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: And great players are like that too. You talk about

554
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 1: Ted Washington and Bruce Darryl Tally, he'll slap the taste

555
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: out of a guy's mouth if he's out there doing wrong. Yeah,

556
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: I'll tell you another guy's like like ray Lewis, I

557
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: heard the story. Immediately. They get this guy, Peter Bulware

558
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 1: who came Florida State guy, and he was he was

559
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: not a high motor well he was because he was

560
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: so enormously gifted. He didn't have to be right. He

561
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: was not like that. They're in their preseason game or

562
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: first year game or you know, early on, and this

563
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 1: is a preseason game. First defense is out there. They

564
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: run a sweep off the right in Peter bullwhere and

565
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: they run it off there and they get it like

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Speaker 1: at seven or eight yard game. It's not a first down.

567
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: But you know, ray Lewis is livid. He looks at

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00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: John Harball and coaching staff says, you get ninety I

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00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: don't know what the guys, you get ninety six off,

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00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: you put ninety nine on, get him off, and you

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00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: put that guy in and he's like on the just

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Speaker 1: calling it out in the preseason guys like that, elevate guys.

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Speaker 1: You you got ten other guys on the meaning that

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00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: they just did not want to let Ray down. And

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Speaker 1: it's a that's a gift and you need you know,

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Speaker 1: it's a gift to a coach. It's absolutely it's a

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Speaker 1: couple of world championships and not less for me to

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00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: worry about. That's a gift worth a couple of championships.

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Speaker 1: And you can say what you want about his off

580
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Speaker 1: the field whatever, but let me tell you something. The

581
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: guy's gifted leader. So I you're looking for guys like

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00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: that that elevate and get you the value out of

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Speaker 1: the roster that you're you know, the Bills are looking

584
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: for guys like that, and that's why some of these

585
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: guys are like, I don't know why at least missed

586
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: on the Well, there's a reason he elevates guys. All right,

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00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: we have to take a break here, but our Twitter

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Speaker 1: poll today is dealing with this AFC East talks. So

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Speaker 1: we'll talk to Mike Reason about a half hour's time.

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Speaker 1: Also have some fun with SI dot COM's Jimmy Traina

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Speaker 1: in about an hour and a half. But on a

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Speaker 1: scale from one to ten, how concerned are you with

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Speaker 1: the AFC East and the resources other teams have this

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00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: offseason to get better Because the Bills, we know, are

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00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: right up against the cap and they have some maneuvering

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00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: that they can do to make life a little bit

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Speaker 1: easier for them. But the other three teams in this

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Speaker 1: division have cap dollars to spend, holes to fill, and

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Speaker 1: they're gonna have a lot of options with all the

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Speaker 1: veterans that are going to be flooding the market. So

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Speaker 1: from one to ten, where's your level of concern that

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Speaker 1: these other AFC East teams are gonna be able to

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Speaker 1: close the gap between them and the Bills. Your phone

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Speaker 1: calls welcome as we take those and see your responses

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Speaker 1: on the tweet sheet when we return here on One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Line presented by collat to Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bills Live, Chris Brown's teach after reviewed,

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Speaker 1: and we do want to get to our Twitter poll today,

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Speaker 1: as we mentioned just before the break, on a scale

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Speaker 1: of one to ten, ten obviously being most concerned, how

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Speaker 1: concerned are you with the AFC East and the resources

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Speaker 1: other teams can use to get better this offseason? We

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Speaker 1: know all three teams have more cap room than the Bills,

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Speaker 1: and two of the three for sure have more draft

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Speaker 1: capital than the Bills. So how concerned are you that

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Speaker 1: these other AFC East teams can use those resources to

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Speaker 1: close the gap between them and the defending AFC's champs

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Speaker 1: eight oh three oh five fifty. The number to call

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Speaker 1: toll free calling area one eighty eight five fifty two

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Speaker 1: five fifty. We also will take your comments on the

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Speaker 1: tweet sheet at one Bills Live. And that is where

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Speaker 1: from Nick, he says, I'm at a five. Even with

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Speaker 1: new quarterbacks, the Jets and Pats are still a couple

628
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Speaker 1: of years away from really threatening us. The Dolphins are good,

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Speaker 1: but we wreck their number one defense twice, and as

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Speaker 1: long as they have Tua, I think we can handle them.

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Speaker 1: The only immediate threat to our supremacy is Watson entering

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Speaker 1: the division. I would agree with Nick on a number

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Speaker 1: of fronts there. I think the Dolphins are the team

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Speaker 1: to keep an eye on future. Yes, I hope they

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Speaker 1: keep Tua because I, like Nick, feel good about the

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Speaker 1: Bills being able to handle that team because our quarterback,

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Speaker 1: I believe is vastly superior to Tua and so, and

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Speaker 1: the offense has been difficult for this Dolphins defense to stop,

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Speaker 1: even with two very good cover corners. The defensive philosophy

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Speaker 1: of the Dolphins is coverage and gone man. And they

641
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: don't have enough guys to cover us up yet. And

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Speaker 1: they don't have somebody to bend the edge and get

643
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Speaker 1: to the quarterback either, right, So, if they've got some deficiencies,

644
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Speaker 1: even though other teams really struggle with that defense, our

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00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 1: guys don't. Um, and the Dolphins have got to score

646
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Speaker 1: points with our team to keep up with them, and

647
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: they and I, like Nick, I don't think they can

648
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Speaker 1: do it yet with two of UM. I'm a little

649
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 1: bit more concerned about what the Patriots are doing. They're

650
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: a tough out. Belichick has those guys playing well, so

651
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 1: their defense will bounce back this year. Certainly, Their their

652
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: opt outs are going to help. And their quarterback situation

653
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Speaker 1: is going to be fluid, to say the least for

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Speaker 1: the foreseeable future, at least until they sign a guy

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Speaker 1: this offseason. But I think if they get any if

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Speaker 1: if if circumstances dictate that they get a guy like

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Speaker 1: Garoppolo or a Kirk Cousins or you know, one of

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Speaker 1: these others, like even an Andy Dalton trade from Dallas,

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Speaker 1: um whatever, Ryan Tanne, Marcus Mariota, and if Marcus Mariota

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Speaker 1: goes up there, I'm okay with that, But so am I.

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Speaker 1: But that's just a personal opinion I got. I just

662
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 1: you know, the Patriots, until they find somebody, we don't

663
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Speaker 1: even know what to make of them, but we know this,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna get the most out of their roster. Their

665
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: roster was deficient last year because of the cap and

666
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Speaker 1: because of their opt outs, but they're gonna be tough always.

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Speaker 1: The interesting thing about the Dolphins, and some of this

668
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: news came down just today, they could not run the

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Speaker 1: ball to save their lives. Last year, their run game

670
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: problems were even more pronounced than those of the Bills.

671
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: Miles Gaskin was their number one running back When they

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Speaker 1: had guys like Matt Brita and other bigger names in

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00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 1: their running back room, they felt Gaskin was their best

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Speaker 1: option because he was explosive at least and could get

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Speaker 1: to the edge make something out of nothing. What have

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00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 1: you to say that Matt Brida isn't explosive, He's one

677
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 1: of the fastest players in the league, but for some reason,

678
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: he was not a player in good standing with head

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Speaker 1: coach Brian Flores. So whatever happened there, we don't know,

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Speaker 1: but suffice it to say that, at least according to reports,

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Speaker 1: they are interested in improving and upgrading their running back room,

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Speaker 1: and they're even exploring pursuing Aaron Jones, who is a

683
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Speaker 1: big free agent running back from Green Bay. But if

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Speaker 1: they're looking to do that, you're looking at an eight

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Speaker 1: and a half to nine million dollars a year price tag,

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Speaker 1: and he's a talent. I don't think there's any question

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Speaker 1: about that. I think is this is viewed as something

688
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,280
Speaker 1: the Dolphins feel they must do to support the young quarterback.

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Speaker 1: That's that's the genesis of this thought process as I

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Speaker 1: see it. I think I think they see a quarterback

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Speaker 1: who is limited physically, is probably a system quarterback or

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Speaker 1: can be most effective as a system quarterback, and needs

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Speaker 1: a running back that can support him, not only in

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Speaker 1: terms of being able to running football and keep the

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Speaker 1: offense balanced, but as a throwing out of the backfield

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00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: safety valve option as well. I really believe that they

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00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 1: see limitations into his game and feel they have to

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00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: support it at every turn, offensive line, running back, wide, receiver.

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Speaker 1: I really think they're gonna be all in and improving

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Speaker 1: the offense in any way they can after spending a

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Speaker 1: boatload of money on their defense the year before. How

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Speaker 1: strong I mean, I know what you think you and

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Speaker 1: I think I'm going to ask you, though, how strong

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Speaker 1: do they go after Deshaun Watson. Yeah, I think they'll.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, because here's the thing. Well, I guess

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Speaker 1: whatever you do to improve your offense helps whatever quarterback

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Speaker 1: you have on your roster. But I think they're going

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Speaker 1: all in on bolstering their offense. I don't think they

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Speaker 1: feel they have a guy they can count on every

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Speaker 1: week in Davante Parker. I think they believe he's a

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Speaker 1: great talent, but I don't believe they feel he's a

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Speaker 1: reliable talent that they can count on weeks production week out,

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Speaker 1: like the Bills can count on Stefan Diggs. They don't.

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Speaker 1: They might have a talent as good as Stefan Diggs

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Speaker 1: and DeVante Parker, who goes about six four two twenty

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00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: five out jump most defensive backs in the league make plays,

717
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 1: can have those games where he's got nine catches for

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Speaker 1: a buck fifty and two touchdowns, but he's not doing

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00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: it every week, and I think the inconsistency is troubling

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Speaker 1: to them. And so I still believe they're going to

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Speaker 1: look for receiver talent that they feel can be more

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Speaker 1: consistent for them and in turn, for Tua. They're looking

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Speaker 1: at a running back like Aaron Jones. You have to

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Speaker 1: pay that guy nine million dollars a year. That's crazy talk.

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00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 1: To me, it's crazy talk because I think they feel

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Speaker 1: they need to surround the young quarterback with all this

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Speaker 1: stuff to improve his chances of succeeding and maximizing him

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Speaker 1: as the signal caller in their office. We can't belittle

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Speaker 1: what they see. I mean, I get it. I'm okay

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Speaker 1: if Brian Flores thinks that's the way to go. They

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Speaker 1: see something in Tua that's gonna give them the ability.

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Speaker 1: Just like the Bills, through the midst of a ton

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Speaker 1: of naysayers and a ton of criticism and a ton

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Speaker 1: of never gonna happens, the Bills stuck with their guys said, Okay,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get into Steph Diggs. We're gonna get a

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Speaker 1: better offensive line, and we're gonna and we're gonna go

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Speaker 1: deep and we're gonna, you know, turn him loose a

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Speaker 1: little bit. And don't think for a second that the

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Speaker 1: Dolphins are not looking at that model that the Bills

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Speaker 1: put into place and say, well, we've got to do

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Speaker 1: that for two, if we want to maximize him, if

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Speaker 1: you want to give your guy a chance to succeed,

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Speaker 1: support him completely. I mean, get after it and do

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00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: it and put it as a high priority. And I

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00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: think that's that's a big thing. I think I think

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00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: the Bills have set a standard or set an example

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00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: for teams that, you know, if we want our we

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00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,720
Speaker 1: want our young quarterback to play well, we gotta support

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Speaker 1: You think the Jets got that message. They've missed that memo.

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Speaker 1: They got an offensive line that is a joke, right,

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00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,919
Speaker 1: And it'll be interesting to see how Robert Sala, who

752
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: also has probably a half a dozen holes on defense

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Speaker 1: as well. I mean, they don't have a cornerback that's

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00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: an NFL player on their roster right now, Yeah, they don't.

755
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:04,280
Speaker 1: They got they're spending their money wrong. In my opinion,

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Speaker 1: The way they build their roster around the guys that

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Speaker 1: are important to them is wrong. I get it now.

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Speaker 1: They got a couple of ones for Jamal Adams. Okay,

759
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: that may help you down the road, but man, oh man,

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Speaker 1: it crippled you. It crippled your defense, and it crippled

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Speaker 1: your morale. When you let the president go, the you

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Speaker 1: know presidential guy like Jamal Adams go, they just decapitated

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Speaker 1: their defense. They didn't get two ones for that guy, though,

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Speaker 1: I know that's pretty damn impressive. It's good they got

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Speaker 1: more at it, more from trading to him than the

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Speaker 1: Eagles got for trading a quarterback. It's crazy now. I

767
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 1: know there was a giant cap figure attached to Carson Wentz,

768
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Speaker 1: which made it different, But man, two ones for that guy.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know he's a he's a talent, but

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Speaker 1: it's a safety. Two ones. He's a safety that doesn't

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Speaker 1: really cover that well. No, he's a blitzer and he's tackler.

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Speaker 1: He's a limited safety talented, oh yeah, but not superverse.

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Speaker 1: And he's tremendously full of character. He's gonna make some

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00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 1: other guys better because he's work ethic and his attitude

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00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:13,399
Speaker 1: and all that, but he doesn't cover real well. He's

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Speaker 1: a good blitzer and he's a good run stuffer and

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Speaker 1: he's a very willing tax. He's an old school box

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Speaker 1: safety and he's a Yeah, he's a little in an

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00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,959
Speaker 1: instinctive player, no question, but he doesn't have the skill

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Speaker 1: set to drop back in the secondary go one on

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Speaker 1: one with anybody, right, So yeah, I mean it'll be

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Speaker 1: interesting to see. I think I'm least concerned about the Jets.

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Speaker 1: They're far off. They're a year or two away from

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Speaker 1: even being competitive as I see, and they haven't. They

785
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: got to make consistently good decisions, and until that happens,

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Speaker 1: you want to worry. But yeah, the Patriots and how

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00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: they bounce back will be interesting to watch. The Dolphins,

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Speaker 1: if they make some good moves in the draft and

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Speaker 1: in free agency, they could be nipping at Buffalo's heels,

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Speaker 1: provided they support the quarterback properly. If they don't, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if they can get there this year, maybe

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Speaker 1: even next year. So of course, the Bills have some

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00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 1: homework to do also with the amount of guys up

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Speaker 1: on their offensive line and the money that they've invested

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Speaker 1: in a defensive line that did not perform up to

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Speaker 1: what I think they thought the standards should be. Well,

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00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: it's a lot of money to perform up to the

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Speaker 1: standards of So you got fifty five million bucks dedicated

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Speaker 1: those guys up there, and it's spread around, but still

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Speaker 1: it's a lot of money. It's a big chunk of

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Speaker 1: your cap at one position group you've got those guys

802
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 1: got to make a big difference all the time. And

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00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 1: Mario Addison is not for nothing, going to be thirty

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00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: four years old before next season starts. And I know

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00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 1: a lot of people outside observers, a lot of people say, man,

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00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: you could have JJ Watt who's two years younger, and

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00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: maybe for just a little bit more money, you know.

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Speaker 1: So it's going to be interesting to see what the

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Speaker 1: dollars in dollars out is going to be on that

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Speaker 1: defensive line this offseason. Knowing that there's going to be

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Speaker 1: some quality talent shaken out of the trees here, not

812
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 1: only in free agency, but in terms of salary cap

813
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Speaker 1: casualties across the league. We got a break here though.

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Speaker 1: When we come back, we will discuss this more with

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Speaker 1: more of your comments on the tweet sheet. We're about

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00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes away from talking to Mike Grease from ESPN.

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Speaker 1: NFL Nation covers the New England Patriots does a bang

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Speaker 1: up job up there and we'll get his thoughts on

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Speaker 1: the quarterback plans for the Patriots this offseason, along with

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Speaker 1: the rest of their roster along to do list up there,

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Speaker 1: so we'll talk to him about fifteen minutes time, but

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Speaker 1: more of your phone calls and your comments on the

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Speaker 1: tweet sheet next here on One Bill's Live, presented by

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Speaker 1: a Lot of Health It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to One Bills Live. Chris Bramsteed task a review. Closing

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Speaker 1: up our number one of the show, we'll be talking

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Speaker 1: with ESPNS Mike Grease, who covers the Patriots, in about

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Speaker 1: ten minutes time, so be sure to stay tuned for

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Speaker 1: that is we get his insight on what the Patriots

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Speaker 1: might be doing at quarterback this offseason to address that vacancy,

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Speaker 1: how they might be retooling their roster to improve from

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Speaker 1: the very down seven and nine season they had in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty. But right now we are taking your phone

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Speaker 1: calls at eight oh three oh five fifty open line

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Speaker 1: for you there and your comments on the tweet sheet

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Speaker 1: as we are asking you on a scale of one

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Speaker 1: to ten, with the ten being the most concerned. How

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Speaker 1: concerned are you that the AFC East can close the

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Speaker 1: gap on the Bills this season, whether it's the Dolphins,

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Speaker 1: the Jets, or the Patriots, where would you put it

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Speaker 1: on a scale a one to ten in terms of

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Speaker 1: your level of concern? Knowing the Jets, the Patriots, the

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00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 1: Dolphins all have significantly more cap room than the Bills

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Speaker 1: to address their roster vacancies, and almost all of them

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Speaker 1: have more draft capital than the Bills have currently, So

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Speaker 1: let us know, scale a one to ten, where you

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Speaker 1: sit on that scale in terms of your level of concern, Steve,

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Speaker 1: I didn't ask you where yours is. Where are you

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Speaker 1: from a scale of one to ten? I'm always pretty

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Speaker 1: concerned because I know there's a lot of really quality

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Speaker 1: people in all those in all those places trying to

852
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 1: get better, and they've got a lot of resources to

853
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: do that, and at this point, before you see what

854
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: decisions they made, you kind of I kind of tend

855
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 1: to give those guys a benefit of the doubt, particularly

856
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 1: the guys in Miami, New England. Miami is a team

857
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: that really concerns me, and of New England, I don't

858
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 1: know how you get out from underneath the burden that's

859
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: been there for two decades. Certainly they swept them last year,

860
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: but the first win was wow, was by the skin

861
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: of their teeth, and the second one they kind of

862
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 1: spread their wings and they were playing as well as

863
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: they could play in that game on Monday night. So

864
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: but I think New England bounces back in a big

865
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 1: way this year. I think they bounced back in a

866
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: huge way. You you, I think you have more respect

867
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: than the average person for New England even after a

868
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 1: down season. I think those guys coming back will help them.

869
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 1: I think they'll have a better answer at quarterback than

870
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: they did this year. Their resources will be spent. You know,

871
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: their resources are going to be spent very wisely. Yeah,

872
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 1: they're not going to make a glaring mistake. Now, they

873
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: may get caught with a guy like in Kiel Harry

874
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 1: who is a great talent but doesn't really you know,

875
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: fit or you know, they have a hard time getting

876
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 1: the most out of But they're not gonna blow it,

877
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 1: which means they're going to be significantly better. If they're

878
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: significantly better, that puts them automatically at nine and seven,

879
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 1: ten and six. Yeah, there you are again, ten win team.

880
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,240
Speaker 1: I guess it depends who the quarterback is more than anything.

881
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 1: I am going to say this. While I will agree

882
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 1: with most that the Dolphins are probably the team you

883
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: have to be concerned the most about. I don't think

884
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 1: we can dismiss this fact. New offensive system coming in

885
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 1: for them with chan Gailey retiring, they promoted from within,

886
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: but it sounds as though things are going to change.

887
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: They have two co coordinators, which I don't think is

888
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 1: a good formula either. And so now TOA is going

889
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 1: to have to adjust again here in year two, to

890
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: a tweaked system with new components, presumably new weapons, and

891
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: I think that's going to take some time to come together.

892
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: I'm with you, I'm me and you and I sit

893
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 1: here and we're a thousand miles away from Miami or

894
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,839
Speaker 1: horror from maybe fifteen a little bit more so, we're

895
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: we're a million miles away from what's going on in Miami.

896
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: All we know is what we see when we watch

897
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: him play. Yeah, and I know, I think I speak

898
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: for you, and I speak for myself to everybody loves too.

899
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 1: It's a tremendous guy from a great family, great leader,

900
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 1: all the intangibles. But I am unimpressed with him as

901
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: an NFL quarterback. Yeah, I am unimpressed. And it's only

902
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: been one year. I suppose, as you and I have

903
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:54,879
Speaker 1: discussed this, no elite physical traits, none, right, none, He's

904
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: a blow average size. To me, that an average arm

905
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: that limits your ceiling giant way. Yeah. See, here's the thing,

906
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,879
Speaker 1: and here's why. And it's it's not this simple. There's

907
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 1: more to it than this, but I'll condense it down

908
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,720
Speaker 1: to this. When you got a guy like Josh Allen

909
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: or even Kyler Murray, Lamar Jackson, when you've got a

910
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 1: guy you know, like Mahomes. Of course, when you've got

911
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 1: guys like that, you've got to defend the entire field

912
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 1: and the line of scrimmage. With Tua, you only have

913
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 1: to defend where his arm is gonna reach right away.

914
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 1: You you don't have to defend him out running your linebackers.

915
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 1: You don't have to defend him with a spy. You

916
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 1: just don't. And that pressure that the athleticism and the

917
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 1: and the arm strength of the quarterback that he presents

918
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 1: to your defense and the lack of the lack of

919
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: the dimension that he's gonna just put it under his arm.

920
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: And like we've seen Josh and due to the Dolphins

921
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 1: game after game, he just spins him into the ground.

922
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 1: Those guys have no ant. They haven't had no answer

923
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: for him his entire career, even his first year, he

924
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 1: was crushing those guys. Josh Allen, even in the losses,

925
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 1: he was the best player. Is officially the Miami Dolphins daddy.

926
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 1: So when you've got when you're sitting there looking at that,

927
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: you think, you know, it just takes so much off

928
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,879
Speaker 1: the table as a defense when you're facing that guy

929
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 1: compared to this guy. Um, that's why I'm okay. I

930
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: hope they give to a chance because I don't think

931
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:38,760
Speaker 1: he's gonna make the most of it. And it's also

932
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 1: why Jordan Palmer, who said on this very show a

933
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: few months ago, there is no ceiling for Josh because

934
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,919
Speaker 1: there are no physical limitations to his game, and that's

935
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: why the ceiling is limitless for him. We just got

936
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: to make sure that he stays upright and clean, which

937
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 1: gets into that whole conversation about the off right back

938
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: where we started me up this morning thinking about Steve's

939
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 1: having nightmares and it's fricking February, all right, we have

940
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,320
Speaker 1: to take a break, but when we return, it is ESPN,

941
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 1: NFL Nation Patriots reporter Mike Reas been on that beat

942
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: for a long time, knows what's going on up there,

943
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,839
Speaker 1: so we'll tap into his expertise find out what their

944
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 1: plans are to fill the quarterback position and address the

945
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 1: numerous holes and could Stefan Gilmore be trade baked. We'll

946
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: explore all of those with Mike Reas next here on

947
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live, presented by Kalata Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Hello,

948
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 1: Bill's Radio Network Sports Your sports update from One Bill's Drive.

949
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: Looks like Big Ben will return to Pittsburgh next season.

950
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 1: Steelers president Art Roomory released a statement about Tuesday's meeting

951
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 1: with the veteran QB about Roethlisberger's return for the twenty

952
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: twenty one season. Big Ben's agent Ryan Tolner said Tuesday

953
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,879
Speaker 1: that Rooney expressed a desire to have the quarterback back

954
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,879
Speaker 1: for an eighteenth season. Rooney confirmed that on Wednesday, while

955
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: noting there's still some work to do on his contract

956
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: to ensure he remains with the Steelers. Green Bay Packers

957
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: running back Aaron Jones expected to be the top running

958
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: back on the free agent market next month, and according

959
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: to the Miami Herald, the Dolphins will be one of

960
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: the teams pursuing him. The report says the interest is mutual,

961
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 1: with Jones and the Dolphins among the teams he considers

962
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 1: signing with this offseason. Jones coming off a second straight

963
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: one thousand yards season in Green Bay, with a career

964
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: best eleven hundred yards in twenty twenty after winning his

965
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: seventh Super Bowl, Tom Brady's NFL career seems poised to

966
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: extend beyond the two seasons for which he signed in

967
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay. Bucks GM Jason Light was asked whether he's

968
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: considering an extension for Brady on The Rich Eisens Show

969
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,720
Speaker 1: and said, while he'll keep his conversations with Brady private,

970
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: and extension is one option. Quote, he certainly didn't look

971
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 1: like he slowed down any of this year, so that's

972
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 1: a possibility, So he'll have to see how that goes

973
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: end quote. Sabers picked up a four one night over

974
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 1: the Devils in New Jersey. Buffalo got off to a

975
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 1: three nothing lead with goals by Victor Olafson, Rassmas Aspland,

976
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 1: and Dylan Cousins, while Cody Ekan added an empty net

977
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,720
Speaker 1: goal with less than a second to play. Linas Olmark

978
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 1: had an impressive forty one day night in the wind

979
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:15,399
Speaker 1: after being on the road for a week. The team

980
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 1: will have Wednesday off before hosting the Devils on Thursday night.

981
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: And Tiger Woods is recovering from a lengthy surgery to

982
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 1: repair multiple open fractures to his lower right leg, a

983
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: rod placed in his tibias, screws and pins inserted in

984
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 1: his foot and ankle during emergency surgery following his one

985
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 1: car rollover crash Tuesday morning in an LA suburb. Woods

986
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 1: injuries were not determined to be life threatening at the

987
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: crash site. He was conscious, calm, and lucid when paramedics

988
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,280
Speaker 1: arrived on the scene. That is your sports update from

989
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,479
Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker. Here our number

990
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 1: two of a Wednesday edition of One Bills Live, broadcasting

991
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 1: from the Seneca Studios in Orchard Park, New York. And

992
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 1: joining us on the line right now is a man

993
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 1: who has covered the Patriots for many years now. It's

994
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 1: ESPN NFL Asian Patriots reporter Mike Race joining us on

995
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: the program. Mike, good to have you a happy offseason.

996
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 1: Hope you and your family are well as we're hopefully

997
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:12,320
Speaker 1: winding down from this pandemic? How is the offseason treating

998
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 1: you to this point a little longer than I'm used to?

999
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, but you know that I will say this.

1000
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: I mean, with the pandemic and two kids eleven and eight,

1001
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say it feels like the off season. It

1002
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 1: almost feels like it's harder than work. Yeah, a lot

1003
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 1: of juggling to do for we feel your pain. I

1004
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 1: gotta we got. We've been having a discussion here about

1005
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,399
Speaker 1: the Patriots and how their quarterback search went last year.

1006
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 1: They waited very late in the game and got a

1007
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 1: great deal on a on a on a used Cam Newton,

1008
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 1: and he came in and it probably you know, I mean,

1009
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,839
Speaker 1: their their offense became a little bit predictable and it

1010
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: was what it was, wasn't, you know, a resounding success.

1011
00:53:56,280 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 1: But do you anticipate the Patriots having the same strategies

1012
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: or kind of maybe taking a different tax. Certainly they

1013
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 1: have more resources this offseason than they did a year ago.

1014
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:09,800
Speaker 1: How do you think this is going to play out

1015
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 1: as far as the time forget about who it's going

1016
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 1: to be the take snaps for the Patriots? How do

1017
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: you think the timetable would work out well, Steve, I

1018
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 1: think you hit on something really important, just that they

1019
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 1: have more resources now, you know, like they were they

1020
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 1: were so tight to the cap that they really were

1021
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 1: limited with what they could do last year. This year,

1022
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 1: they have an abundance of cap space. In terms of

1023
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: the timing. I actually think this part is really fascinating

1024
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:36,839
Speaker 1: because I sort of would describe what they're doing right

1025
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 1: now as taking a strategically patient approach, meaning like they're

1026
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 1: looking at everything. They're looking at trade possibilities, they're looking

1027
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 1: at the draft, they're looking at free agency, and they

1028
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:53,439
Speaker 1: have a little bit of time, you know, to sort

1029
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: of assess it and make the move that they think

1030
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 1: would give them the best chance to win. And that's

1031
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 1: not Matthew Stafford, it wasn't Carson Wentz, it wasn't Jared Goff.

1032
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: But like, it's one thing to be strategically patient in

1033
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: early to mid February or late February, But you can't

1034
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,839
Speaker 1: really do that, can you when free agency starts, Like

1035
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 1: quarterbacks might start coming off the board, and if you

1036
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 1: just sort of stand by and wait, you might be

1037
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 1: left with nothing. So I do believe we're getting to

1038
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 1: the point where they're going to have to make a

1039
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 1: move one way or the other concerning a trade, Mike.

1040
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 1: A popular name that keeps coming up is Stefan Gilmore.

1041
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 1: Last year, the contract affordable number for a team to

1042
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 1: inherit if they need cornerback help. Is that somebody that

1043
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 1: they would consider moving in an effort to get maybe

1044
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 1: a quarterback in a package of sorts in return. I

1045
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 1: could envision that, Chris, I think the thing was Stefan.

1046
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,839
Speaker 1: That's important to know is, you know, he signed a

1047
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 1: five year deal with the Patriots and he's entering the

1048
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 1: fifth year of that deal, and he's due to earn

1049
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:05,399
Speaker 1: seven million in base salary. That's very low for a

1050
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 1: player of his caliber. And the reason it's low is

1051
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: that the Patriots actually took five million that he was

1052
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 1: going to earn this year and advanced it to him,

1053
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,839
Speaker 1: you know, from last season. Just try to bring him

1054
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 1: up a little bit, you know, to where the market

1055
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 1: had gone at his position. It's hard for me to

1056
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 1: believe that Stephan would be playing for the Patriots at

1057
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 1: a seven million dollars salary this year. I don't think

1058
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 1: that would be tenable to him. So my question would be, like,

1059
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 1: what what's the breaking point like do they do another

1060
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 1: you know, boost of his salary, or you know, does

1061
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 1: it become a point where they say we're not going

1062
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 1: to do that, and Stefan says, well, I want out,

1063
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 1: and then I could see either a release or a

1064
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 1: trade as a possibility. If they do trade him, it's

1065
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 1: going to have to be with his knowledge that the

1066
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,839
Speaker 1: other team, if they want him for a one year deal,

1067
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 1: they're not going to give him a raise, right, I mean,

1068
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 1: is he going to be willing to do anything for

1069
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 1: the cut rate that he's due to make. I would

1070
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 1: think not. But but here's the other part of this

1071
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:09,280
Speaker 1: that's tough for Stefan as he had the unfortunate injury,

1072
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 1: you know, late in the season. He's dealing with the

1073
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 1: quad injuries rehabbing right now. So at this point, I

1074
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 1: don't even believe he would pass a physical now. He

1075
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: probably will in a month or two, maybe a little

1076
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 1: bit longer than that. So that's going to throw another

1077
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 1: wrench into any potential movement from him with another team. Mike,

1078
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 1: what we've heard the name Marcus Mariota floated about concerning

1079
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 1: the Patriots. He's been linked whether it's right, wrong or indifferent,

1080
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 1: but just looking at it from the outside, after seeing

1081
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 1: a name like that being associated with the Patriots, if

1082
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 1: there's anything, what do you believe are the redeeming qualities

1083
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 1: that maybe the Patriots might find attractive in him, knowing

1084
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 1: the kinds of quarterbacks they typically like to have on

1085
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 1: their roster. So, Chris, the first thing is just the

1086
00:57:56,920 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 1: dual threat, you know, after having a key him this

1087
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 1: past season, and just you know, the ability to run

1088
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 1: with your quarterback. I think that would be the first

1089
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 1: thing that comes to mind. The second thing with Mariota

1090
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 1: is I didn't even realize this. You guys probably know this.

1091
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 1: When he was in Tennessee, he had four offensive coordinators

1092
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 1: in his first five years or his only five years there,

1093
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 1: and then he goes on to the Raiders this last

1094
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 1: year and he has another obviously a new coordinator. So

1095
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 1: for any player, that's five offensive coordinators in your six

1096
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 1: year career. And I think the Patriots might look at

1097
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 1: a situation like that. And this is more me speculating

1098
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 1: saying we have we offer stability, you know, and you

1099
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:41,479
Speaker 1: can come here and grow in a system, and we'll

1100
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 1: have you know, some time to do that. Because Bill

1101
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 1: Belichick isn't going anywhere. Josh McDaniels likely isn't going anywhere.

1102
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 1: So I think those are a couple of things. And

1103
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 1: I would just add this, why is the name coming up?

1104
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 1: You know, the Raiders are tight to the cap. Mariota's

1105
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 1: do about ten and a half million. He might be

1106
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 1: a luxury they can't afford. They might just release if

1107
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 1: they can't find a trade partner. And with the Patriots

1108
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 1: have about sixty five million or thereabouts, depending on which

1109
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 1: day you look and who they've released or who they haven't,

1110
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 1: but sixty five million dollars. They've got their fifteenth pick

1111
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 1: in the in the draft. How and with the expectations

1112
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 1: of a bounce back here with the guys who are

1113
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 1: coming back off the opt out list they've you know,

1114
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 1: you know, Patriots fans and the team itself must be

1115
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 1: really thinking they can bounce back in a big way

1116
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 1: from a seven to nine year last year. You know, Steve,

1117
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 1: that's that's interesting. If you were to turn on local

1118
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 1: sports talk radio here in New England, I'm not sure

1119
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 1: that would be the vibe you yet. Maybe that's the

1120
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 1: pessimistic side of you know, of the Boston sports but

1121
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 1: I think there's some who are questioning coach Belichick saying,

1122
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 1: you know, we had a good thing going here for

1123
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 1: twenty years with Tom Brady, and then you watch Tom

1124
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 1: go win a Super Bowl, and you know, if you're

1125
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 1: a fan or a paying customer, I think it's only

1126
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 1: human instinct or natural instinct to say, wait a minute, like,

1127
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 1: why why isn't that's still happening here? You know, and

1128
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 1: then to see the plan that with Cam coming in

1129
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 1: and not really having it work out the way that

1130
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 1: you know, maybe a lot of people hope they would.

1131
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 1: I would say that confidence just and I'm sort of

1132
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 1: taking a temperature of when I turn on the radio,

1133
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 1: is maybe a little bit shaken in terms of that optimism. Yeah,

1134
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 1: my last question about quarterback position for the Patriots here,

1135
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 1: but handicap dis for me if you could the likelihood

1136
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 1: of the quarterback vacancy being filled by a veteran, no

1137
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 1: matter what means they do to acquire one, the odds

1138
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 1: of them drafting one, or the odds of both of

1139
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 1: those things happening to kind of fill out that position. Room.

1140
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 1: I like the last part, Chris, I think both of them,

1141
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 1: you know, And that's another thing why someone like Mariota

1142
01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 1: would make sense to me, because you might acquire him,

1143
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 1: and you might be acquiring him not necessarily thinking he's

1144
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 1: your long term answer, but at least an option, you know,

1145
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 1: to pair with a rookie, and he'd also keep that

1146
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 1: salary cap space fluid for you to fill a lot

1147
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 1: of your other needs. I mean, Steve, you mentioned like

1148
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 1: they got a lot of needs too, like receiver, tight end,

1149
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 1: front seven on defense. We really saw the discrepancy, didn't

1150
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 1: we in Week sixteen when the Bills came in and

1151
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 1: they it wasn't just like the Bills were a better team,

1152
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 1: like it was they were a better team, Like they

1153
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 1: ran him right off the field in the second half,

1154
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 1: you know, So I think that's that's that's why I

1155
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 1: would say a veteran paired with a youngster would make

1156
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 1: a lot of sense. And are there any who is

1157
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 1: the most likely name? And where would it be? Would

1158
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 1: it be their first pick, the fifteenth of the draft,

1159
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 1: or would it be somewhere down the line? Where do

1160
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 1: you think the Patriots would look to grab that guy

1161
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 1: and it? And what name or they have they been

1162
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 1: most linked to. The name they've been most linked to

1163
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 1: is mac Jones of Alabama, which would be a first

1164
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 1: round consideration, and I think depending on who you talk to,

1165
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 1: he might not even be there at number fifteen, you know,

1166
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 1: so you might see four or five quarterbacks well off

1167
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 1: the board before the Patriots pick. So then you're talking

1168
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 1: about the idea of, you know, you might have to

1169
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 1: trade up if you're that enamored with him, and the

1170
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 1: next time Bill Belichick trades a first round pick in

1171
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 1: a future year to move up the first time in

1172
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 1: twenty one years. He just doesn't generally do that. So

1173
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 1: you know, to me, they're not in a great spot

1174
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 1: at fifteen, and if you're talking about one of these

1175
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 1: top quarterbacks, so it would lead you to think it

1176
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 1: would have to be later if those guys go early.

1177
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 1: Talking to Mike Racy, ESPN, NFL Nations, Patriots reporter, contributor

1178
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 1: to ESPN's NFL Live and Sports Center, and Mike, you

1179
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 1: mentioned receiver being a position they want to address. This

1180
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 1: might be a strong characterization of it, but it looks

1181
01:02:56,760 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 1: like at times the Patriots, in terms of fortifying that position,

1182
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 1: have had a bit of a blind spot there in

1183
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 1: terms of addressing it effectively with good players that either

1184
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 1: a develop or are producers right out of the gate,

1185
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 1: more missus than hits, I guess is the way I'm

1186
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:18,920
Speaker 1: looking at it. Do you feel like that's something that

1187
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 1: they can course correct and effectively address, especially you know,

1188
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 1: at a time where it looks like it's another strong

1189
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 1: receiver class in the draft. Yeah. I think you make

1190
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 1: a great point, Chris, and you are right on it.

1191
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 1: I mean, if there's one, if you're going to make

1192
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 1: a list of okay, teaches have a great success under

1193
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick, but let's sort of go for the areas

1194
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 1: they've struggled, and I would say drafting and developing wide

1195
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 1: receivers might be at the top of the list, or

1196
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 1: definitely among the few things on that list. I would

1197
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:53,920
Speaker 1: say this, like, look at what Stephan Diggs did for

1198
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:57,040
Speaker 1: the Bills last year. Like you guys can correct me,

1199
01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 1: because this is my view from afar. I mean, he

1200
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 1: gave them a surefire number one, an alpha guy whose

1201
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:08,440
Speaker 1: presence raised everyone else around him, you know, and made

1202
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 1: Cole who is great, but that much better, you know,

1203
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 1: and made John Brown, who was good, that much better.

1204
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:17,960
Speaker 1: Like they can do that, Chris, if they can get

1205
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 1: one of these top guys in free agency, and I'm

1206
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 1: thinking Alan Robinson, Like if he doesn't get tagged by

1207
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 1: the Bears like he could be your Stefan Diggs. And

1208
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 1: that's sort of the thought process because they have struggled

1209
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 1: to draft and develop, and I think part of that

1210
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 1: is a deeper discussion as to that position has been

1211
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 1: a challenge for them to evaluate because the way receivers

1212
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:40,720
Speaker 1: are covered in college is a lot different than they're

1213
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 1: covered in the NFL. Given the landscape of the AFC

1214
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:45,440
Speaker 1: East and how has changed over the last couple of years,

1215
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 1: with the Bills emerging as the champion this last year

1216
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 1: and for the first time ever, the team swept the division.

1217
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 1: How does the New England How do you think the

1218
01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 1: New England Patriots view the rest of the division starting

1219
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 1: with the Bills, the Dolphins, and the Jets. Certainly, you know,

1220
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 1: what happens with Sam Darnold in New York may have,

1221
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 1: you know, some ripple effects across the division depending on

1222
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 1: how that works out and what happens. But you know what,

1223
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 1: what did the Patriots feel about the rest of their

1224
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 1: division at the current moment. Well, so I'm gonna tell

1225
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 1: you my view of how I think they feel. I mean,

1226
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 1: I don't know this for sure, and I would take

1227
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 1: us right back to that extended handshake after that Week

1228
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 1: sixteen game between Bill Belichick and Sean McDermott. You know

1229
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 1: that told me something just watching that, and it was

1230
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 1: that Bill Belichick has great respect for Sean McDermott and

1231
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:44,360
Speaker 1: the Bills because he doesn't stick around for those handshakes. Oh,

1232
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 1: we just lost Did we lose him? I think we

1233
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:49,439
Speaker 1: lost Mike there, brief lost Mike. But he was talking

1234
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 1: about the handshake between Belichick and coach McDermott that our

1235
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 1: MSG viewers are seeing now And as Mike was saying,

1236
01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 1: Belichick doesn't stick around for those very often. This was

1237
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 1: an extended postgame handshake and an escort for about five

1238
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 1: or ten yards. Bill Belichick had something to say, uh

1239
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 1: to Sean McDermott. Don't know what it was, but you're right,

1240
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 1: and we had Kyle. I think you can assume respect

1241
01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 1: though absolutely that the Bills lumped him up really good

1242
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:21,440
Speaker 1: in that Monday night game for the first and I

1243
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 1: think that was the first Bills team ever. You can

1244
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:26,240
Speaker 1: say the thirty one to nothing game at oh three,

1245
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:28,919
Speaker 1: it's a lawyer malloy game. That was a little different. Yeah,

1246
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 1: this this was from start to finish a clinic. Yeah,

1247
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 1: they lumped him up good. That was a beat down,

1248
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 1: and that doesn't happen to Bill Belichick. Teams rum and

1249
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 1: it'll And it's really interesting to think about what that

1250
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 1: meant to Bill Belichick and why he had that extended hands.

1251
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 1: And you know what it reminded me of because only

1252
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 1: a few weeks prior, the Patriots got waxed by the

1253
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 1: Rams forty five to three. Or no, yes, they got

1254
01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 1: beat soundly by the Rams. I don't think that was

1255
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 1: the score. I think I'm confusing that with the Patriots

1256
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 1: beating the Chargers by that score. Anyway, I saw it

1257
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:08,919
Speaker 1: on NFL films and he went up to him after

1258
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 1: the game and he said, you guys owned us in

1259
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 1: this game. Great job coaching this Like he'll he's not

1260
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:17,200
Speaker 1: one too. He praise on a lot of people, but

1261
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 1: when he recognizes that your team soundly beat his, he

1262
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 1: will give you credit for it. Yeah, and he did

1263
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 1: that to Sean McVay and to Sean McDermott. So maybe

1264
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 1: you have to have a loss either. It's the ones

1265
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 1: after that. I think they kind of he sees something

1266
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 1: in the run up to the game as well. Yes,

1267
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 1: about what the team was going to do and what

1268
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:39,520
Speaker 1: they anticipated, and I think that goes a long way

1269
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:43,480
Speaker 1: toward towards what those handshakes look like. Yeah. Interesting that

1270
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 1: Mike agreed with me in saying that the receiver position

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Speaker 1: has been a blind spot for the Patriots in terms

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Speaker 1: of drafting and developing. I think, you know, when they

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Speaker 1: go after a player in the league already, they've been

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Speaker 1: more effective, whether it's prying Wes Welker away from Miami,

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Speaker 1: you know that kind of thing. They've been better that way.

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Speaker 1: And that's why I kind of agree with Mike that

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Speaker 1: they'll probably look on the free agent market for a

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Speaker 1: receiver talent, a top receiver talent, to kind of fortify

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Speaker 1: that position. Mike, we lost you. They're glad to have

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Speaker 1: you back. The one last one that I had for

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Speaker 1: you was we know that Matt Patricia is back with

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Speaker 1: the Patriots now, you know, after getting the boot in Detroit,

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Speaker 1: it looks as though the feeling in Detroit is that

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Speaker 1: the system there defensively is going to change to a

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Speaker 1: degree where a lot of the guys that were fits

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Speaker 1: in Patricia's system there could be given their walking papers

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Speaker 1: and out on the street. To what degree could you

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Speaker 1: anticipate maybe some of those guys finding their way back

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Speaker 1: to New England in free agency. Yeah, definitely, Chris, And

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Speaker 1: sorry about that, Steve, you know with the phone going

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Speaker 1: down there, but get it back up here. I think

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Speaker 1: that's a high probability that we could see some guys

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Speaker 1: that wouldn't be fits there come back to New England.

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't be the first time that happens. And I would

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Speaker 1: say just for NAT's presidence here, like he might not

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Speaker 1: even be coaching on Bill Belichick's staff. He might be

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Speaker 1: more of an advisor type, something similar to what they

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Speaker 1: did in twenty fourteen and fifteen when they had Michael

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Speaker 1: Lombardi come as sort of an assistant to the staff

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Speaker 1: who sort of worked on the periphery. Gotcha, that's interesting,

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Speaker 1: And then why don't you just wrap up what you

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Speaker 1: were what you were saying about Belichick's extended handshake, and yeah,

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Speaker 1: escort there for almost ten yards. I mean I was

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Speaker 1: mentioning Mike that we had seen that after the Rams

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Speaker 1: game this season two with McVeigh. That's the only other

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Speaker 1: guy I can remember, though in the not too distant past,

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Speaker 1: that he's done that with. I'm sure you know there's problem.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure if there are other examples you would know,

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Speaker 1: but those are the two that stick in my head.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly right, and I think you know what I

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Speaker 1: was trying to get at was Steve had asked about,

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Speaker 1: you know, how the Patriots view the rest of the

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Speaker 1: AFC East, and I said, you know, my view of

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Speaker 1: that handshake tells me that they view the Bills as

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Speaker 1: the team to beat, because that was the ultimate show

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Speaker 1: of respect from Bill Belichick. We do not see that

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Speaker 1: very often, and I think so to me, it's the

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Speaker 1: Bills and then everyone else in their view. Do you

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Speaker 1: have anything else for Mike Stein? No, that's good, Mike.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it's great talking to you. I hope you

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Speaker 1: guys stay well and safe during the pandemic. I know

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Speaker 1: we're maybe there's a little light at the end of

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Speaker 1: the time. It might just be summertime. Come yeah, because

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Speaker 1: we didn't we didn't travel, you didn't really travel, so

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Speaker 1: hopefully we crossed pass here and no one. We usually

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Speaker 1: do that during the regular season, so hopefully we'll have

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to do that. Thanks for the time, Mike,

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Speaker 1: as always, definitely, guys, and thanks for having me and

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Speaker 1: let me just say this after some of those lean years,

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Speaker 1: Like I was so happy that you guys got to

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01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 1: see you know, winning football deep into the playoffs, you guys,

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Speaker 1: and also the fans out there, which are great fans. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thanks Mike. We appreciate it, all right. Mike Reese joining

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Speaker 1: us ESPN NFL Nation reporter for the New England Patriots

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01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:55,040
Speaker 1: does a great job up there. He and I kind

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01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:58,280
Speaker 1: of both got on our respective beats at the same time,

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Speaker 1: so I mean, I mean, crossing paths with him for

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Speaker 1: the better part of the last twenty five years. It

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01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:07,840
Speaker 1: is just it flies by, like it's just it's crazy

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01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:09,519
Speaker 1: to think we've been doing it as long as we have.

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01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:12,200
Speaker 1: But he does a bang up job up there, and

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Speaker 1: um has a lot of respect not only around the league,

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01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:17,760
Speaker 1: but at the network where he works, ESPN, I mean

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Speaker 1: Mike Greenberg, who does that get up show, UM, and

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01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:25,559
Speaker 1: a host of other shows on ESPN's family and networks.

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01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:27,599
Speaker 1: He gets Mike on as much as he can when

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Speaker 1: there's Patriots news, and with good reason. Yeah. And that

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Speaker 1: that Rams game you're referring to was a twenty four

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Speaker 1: to three beat down. Pots that's one of the where

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01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:38,240
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick went up to mcvain said, you guys handled

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01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:41,519
Speaker 1: us today. He beat us up. So that kind of

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01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:45,280
Speaker 1: praise doesn't come around often from the guy that many

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01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:48,800
Speaker 1: would consider certainly the best coach of this era and

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01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:51,640
Speaker 1: probably one of the top two or three coaches in

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01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:54,439
Speaker 1: the history of the game. Um So to get that

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01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:57,599
Speaker 1: kind of praise from a guy of that stature that

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01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:00,439
Speaker 1: you've arrived, you've arrived as a head coach. When you're

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Speaker 1: getting that kind of praise from a guy that's closing

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Speaker 1: in on three hundred career wins in this league, So

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Speaker 1: good on him forgiven coaches props after that beat down

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Speaker 1: in Week sixteen, which, as we've said more than one Steve,

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01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:16,920
Speaker 1: was the most delicious win for me of the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty season. That was the best drink of water after

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01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 1: the oldest rout. It wasn't experience. That was pretty good.

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Speaker 1: We will reset the table with you as we move

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Speaker 1: into the second half of the show. As we are

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Speaker 1: asking you on the Twitter poll today on a scale

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Speaker 1: of one to ten, ten being the most concerned, how

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Speaker 1: concerned are you with the AFC East and the resources

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Speaker 1: the other teams have in this division to get better

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Speaker 1: this offseason and close the gap on the defending AFC

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Speaker 1: East Champs, The Buffalo Bills. Give us a call eight

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Speaker 1: oh three five fifty one eight eight five fifty two,

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Speaker 1: five fifty. We're taking your phone calls next. We've got

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01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:56,360
Speaker 1: an open line for you and we'll check out your

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Speaker 1: comments on the tweet sheet as well when we return

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Speaker 1: here on One Bills Live is in and by Colloid

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Speaker 1: to Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One Bill,

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Speaker 1: Why Chris Brown, Steve Task. We're taking it through a

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01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:17,920
Speaker 1: Wednesday addition to the show. Moving into the second half

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Speaker 1: of the program about a half hour's time, we'll be

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Speaker 1: joined by SI dot COM's Jimmy Traina can have some

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01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:26,400
Speaker 1: fun with him about some of the stuff he's been

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01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:30,880
Speaker 1: writing about lately, and you know, in addition to some

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Speaker 1: of the things that he's contributed, we'll also talk to

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Speaker 1: him about the jj Watt cryptic tweets that have continued

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01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:44,360
Speaker 1: and people are trying to be super sloth than uncovering

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01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 1: just what he's getting at. But I think he's just

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01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:49,360
Speaker 1: toying with everybody. He's toying with people now they're the

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01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:55,519
Speaker 1: best and they are jumping through hoops trying to will

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01:13:56,439 --> 01:14:00,920
Speaker 1: JJ Watt to become a Bill like he when he

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01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:05,439
Speaker 1: he tweeted an Instagram posted his fiance, I think are

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01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 1: they married yet? I think there might be married? Right?

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01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 1: His wife's like throwing down some wings, like aggressively chowing down,

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01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:20,679
Speaker 1: and they're like, oh, wings going boat and everybody jumped

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01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:23,120
Speaker 1: to conclude and yesterday's tweet about them, He's just All

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01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:26,599
Speaker 1: he tweeted was mitochondria the powerhouse of the cell, right,

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01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 1: and how far did people go with that? Mitochondria has

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Speaker 1: the same number of letters as Buffalo Bills. Yeah, Mitochondria

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Speaker 1: Research Center is located in Buffalo. Yeah. Uh. That was

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01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 1: Jeremy White from the Morning Show. How can he? How

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01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:44,680
Speaker 1: can he sign anywhere else? I think, Jeremy? I think

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01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:47,880
Speaker 1: Jeremy had another one today in response to his tweet,

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01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 1: which had him in uh an indoor training facility and

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01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 1: it said scary hours. But in the middle of the

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01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 1: training field was a logo and the initials b N

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01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:05,559
Speaker 1: and Jeremy went to town on that one too. He's like, oh,

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01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:09,719
Speaker 1: those initials are clearly a homage to former Bills GM,

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01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:16,479
Speaker 1: Buddy Knicks, JJ Watt coming to Buffalo News, Well Buffalo next, Yeah,

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01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:19,800
Speaker 1: but oh that's probably even better. Stand that's better than

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01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:23,160
Speaker 1: Buddy Knicks Buffalo next, that's really good. Or it might

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01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:26,479
Speaker 1: be just the name of the facility. Yeah, that is

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01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 1: called you know whatever, is far more likely. So we'll

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Speaker 1: have some fun with Jimmy on some of that stuff

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01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 1: that's going on around the NFL news and notes landscape,

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01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:38,920
Speaker 1: and that'll be coming. You're weighing about oh, I'd say

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Speaker 1: about twenty five minutes, But we do want to get

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Speaker 1: back to the tweet sheet and it's brought to you

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Speaker 1: by Corrigan Moving Systems as always, and we are up

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Speaker 1: to a dandy from Jack who went asked, how concerned

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01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 1: are you with the AFC East improving this offseason? On

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01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:54,880
Speaker 1: a scale of one to ten, Jack says, and at

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01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 1: ten with the Pats, a six with the Fish and

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01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:00,960
Speaker 1: a two with the Jets. Until Bella Check retires, I'll

1425
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:04,120
Speaker 1: continue to fear that he'll ruin my life somehow. Miami

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01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:06,760
Speaker 1: is good, but Josh has their number. I don't think

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01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:09,559
Speaker 1: they'll get Watson and want to see that rivalry. Reborn

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01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:12,439
Speaker 1: Jets are the Jets until proven otherwise. I think that's

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01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:15,240
Speaker 1: a pretty good assessment of the landscape. There very concisus.

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Speaker 1: You're a number higher than six for the Patriots, Steve,

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01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:20,920
Speaker 1: he's got a ten with the Pats. Yeah, where are

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Speaker 1: you are you? You're not at a ten? No? Seven, five,

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01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:26,800
Speaker 1: seven and a half, Okay. I was just curious because

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Speaker 1: I know you, you really do think they're going to

1435
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 1: bounce back. I was curious your number would be there. Yeah,

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01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:35,840
Speaker 1: there'll be a bounce back here the Dolphins. I'm I

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01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:39,040
Speaker 1: just think we've got the dolphin killer on a roster.

1438
01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:42,280
Speaker 1: And Josh he's even in the games that he lost.

1439
01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:45,320
Speaker 1: When he played against the Man, they were just they

1440
01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:47,760
Speaker 1: were ready to puke. They wanted no more of him. Man.

1441
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 1: Well he was skinning, spinning Kiko Alonzo into the ground

1442
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:54,200
Speaker 1: like a top. He's running over Van Noy. The Jets

1443
01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:59,120
Speaker 1: are a team that you you lose to them at

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01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:00,840
Speaker 1: this point in history. The Jets are a team that

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01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 1: you'll a team like the Bills will lose to when

1446
01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:05,000
Speaker 1: they show up not ready to play, and the Jets

1447
01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 1: put together a superlative performance. And you can do that

1448
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:10,000
Speaker 1: at any given Sunday. The Jets will put together some

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01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:15,680
Speaker 1: motivation for the day and beat you. They gave a

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01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:19,080
Speaker 1: great effort against the Bills and an eighteen to nothing beat. Yeah,

1451
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:21,920
Speaker 1: where the Bills didn't ever score a touchdown. Good, you

1452
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 1: know that's and that season that the Jets had, that's

1453
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 1: pretty good effort for them. You'll get one of those. So, Yeah,

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01:17:31,479 --> 01:17:34,040
Speaker 1: the Jets don't go away, and they're they're they're still

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01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:36,280
Speaker 1: a team on your schedule that you're gonna have to

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01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 1: play a play well. But I mean at the same time,

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01:17:39,240 --> 01:17:41,360
Speaker 1: but man, I think in two of the last three years,

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01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:45,400
Speaker 1: they've had a hundred or more million dollars in capro

1459
01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:49,880
Speaker 1: and they haven't made the right calls. Whether they're throwing

1460
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:52,280
Speaker 1: money at Levy on Bell knowing they don't have an

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Speaker 1: offensive line to clear holes for him. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if you could waste money any better than that. Yeah,

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01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:00,920
Speaker 1: fifty some odd million dollars for a hi that is

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Speaker 1: only going to function behind a good offensive line and

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Speaker 1: they didn't have one. We've been talking about this for

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01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:07,519
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks now. Ever since the Super Bowl,

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01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:09,040
Speaker 1: you and I have been talking about the offensive line

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Speaker 1: because of the free agents we've got. I am of

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Speaker 1: the school that if you want to get your running

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Speaker 1: game better, you don't get a running back. You get

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Speaker 1: an offensive line right, and it looks like Miami could

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Speaker 1: be falling into that very same trap that the Jets

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01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:23,360
Speaker 1: did two years ago when they signed Levion Bell. And

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01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:26,600
Speaker 1: free agency, they look as though they are going to

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01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:30,160
Speaker 1: be pursuing Aaron Jones, the Green Bay free agent running

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01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:32,600
Speaker 1: back who's going to probably command upwards of nine to

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Speaker 1: ten million dollars on the free agent market and will

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Speaker 1: probably be one of those players signing in the first

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01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:39,120
Speaker 1: week of free agency. If Miami wants to go chase him,

1480
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:41,960
Speaker 1: have at it, man, have at it. Right now, the

1481
01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:44,720
Speaker 1: Bills are in a completely different camp than that. Philosophically,

1482
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:47,519
Speaker 1: you can bet, I would bet, and I can't see

1483
01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:49,200
Speaker 1: the future, and I don't know what's going to happen,

1484
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:52,480
Speaker 1: but it would be my thought. The Bills will continue

1485
01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:56,240
Speaker 1: to go with Devin Singletary and Zach Moss until Singletary's

1486
01:18:56,280 --> 01:19:00,800
Speaker 1: rookie deal runs out, and they'll draft another one, and

1487
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:03,599
Speaker 1: they'll wait till Zach mosson the next year. Hills, they'll

1488
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:06,040
Speaker 1: draft another one unless you can get him back for

1489
01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:08,719
Speaker 1: like a one or two year extension at a modest price.

1490
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:11,880
Speaker 1: And it's clear that this team is fine going with

1491
01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:14,679
Speaker 1: running back by committee. More and more teams are doing

1492
01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:16,120
Speaker 1: that because they don't want to get caught in a

1493
01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:19,280
Speaker 1: position where if their top flight feature back gets injured,

1494
01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:24,200
Speaker 1: they're screwed, like the Carolina Panthers and and CMC, Yeah,

1495
01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:26,800
Speaker 1: dramatically when he went out of the lineup for an

1496
01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:31,000
Speaker 1: extended period of time. Yeah, and they they they tangled

1497
01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:36,120
Speaker 1: up sixteen million dollars in a guy that didn't play. Yeah, well,

1498
01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:38,640
Speaker 1: I'm sure, and that position has got one of the

1499
01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:43,120
Speaker 1: highest injury rates of any on the field, and that

1500
01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:48,679
Speaker 1: deal was struck by the previous GM coach. I thought,

1501
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 1: it's just I don't get it's crazy. I don't get

1502
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:55,280
Speaker 1: any idiotic when it happened. And I like Christian McCaffrey,

1503
01:19:55,560 --> 01:20:00,120
Speaker 1: great back, great athlete, solid guy, all that. You you

1504
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:03,600
Speaker 1: can't do that. Yeah, you cannot do that. It's fiscally irresponsible.

1505
01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:08,360
Speaker 1: It is irresponsible. Levion Bell deal irresponsible. And the Miami

1506
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:13,280
Speaker 1: Dolphins hopefully we'll do that again. We're hoping Aaron Jones

1507
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:18,200
Speaker 1: ten million and Aaron Jones Miami. You gotta get knock yourself.

1508
01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:20,920
Speaker 1: You have got to get him at any cost. Steve

1509
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:25,160
Speaker 1: selling from Eric on the tweet sheet at a one

1510
01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:29,800
Speaker 1: currently The only concern I have is regarding the possibility

1511
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:33,080
Speaker 1: of Watson getting traded into the division. Other than that

1512
01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:37,200
Speaker 1: the Bills own the a FCS. That really is concern

1513
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:40,360
Speaker 1: number one for for any Bills fan. Isn't it that

1514
01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 1: Watson comes in. It disrupts the whole landscapes of the division.

1515
01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:51,040
Speaker 1: It's it's It is the singular one event that changes everything.

1516
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:57,280
Speaker 1: But free agency and the draft are gonna completely change

1517
01:20:57,320 --> 01:20:59,559
Speaker 1: things in New England. They're gonna they're gonna have twenty

1518
01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:02,519
Speaker 1: five new guys on their roster, at least from where

1519
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:06,960
Speaker 1: they were this last year. They're gonna be completely revamped

1520
01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:11,160
Speaker 1: and refurbished, and depending on what happens with their quarterback position,

1521
01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:16,759
Speaker 1: that's gonna be the thing that changes it. So right now,

1522
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:19,639
Speaker 1: the one single thing that would happen that would change

1523
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:23,080
Speaker 1: things dramatically is that, Yeah, Watson come into the division

1524
01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:26,880
Speaker 1: for the Fish, for the Patriots or the Jets from

1525
01:21:26,920 --> 01:21:29,960
Speaker 1: Tiffany on the tweet sheet. As of this moment, we

1526
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:32,320
Speaker 1: have hands down the top quarterback in the division, So

1527
01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:36,160
Speaker 1: my level of concern is minimal. Our division rivals most

1528
01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:38,839
Speaker 1: likely will add a new quarterback at some point. However,

1529
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:42,320
Speaker 1: Josh still has a high ceiling for growth. I'm excited

1530
01:21:42,360 --> 01:21:44,920
Speaker 1: to see what he adds to his game this offseason,

1531
01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:48,880
Speaker 1: which is an interesting thing to think about. He was

1532
01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:52,080
Speaker 1: talking about that, and I'm trying to jog my memory

1533
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:55,160
Speaker 1: to remember what he pointed to specifically that he did

1534
01:21:55,240 --> 01:21:57,599
Speaker 1: want to work on. I'm gonna have to go back

1535
01:21:57,600 --> 01:21:59,400
Speaker 1: into the transcripts and look it up because I can't

1536
01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:01,200
Speaker 1: quite remember or what it was that he listed, but

1537
01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:05,040
Speaker 1: he had it to do list. I want to say

1538
01:22:05,080 --> 01:22:08,640
Speaker 1: it was precision because he was damn good in the

1539
01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:13,040
Speaker 1: red zone. Yeah, um, he's he weeded out a lot

1540
01:22:13,080 --> 01:22:16,160
Speaker 1: of those hero ball plays last year. We know what

1541
01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:19,479
Speaker 1: happened with his completion percentage. He was a different guy

1542
01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 1: this year, and certainly the team was was different around him.

1543
01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:32,840
Speaker 1: But goodness gracious, it's that his jump was unprecedented and

1544
01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:36,360
Speaker 1: and it seemed and here's the thing about it was

1545
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:41,679
Speaker 1: and you know, you see, if you agree with this, Brownie,

1546
01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:45,360
Speaker 1: we watched every single snap of the year live and

1547
01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:47,759
Speaker 1: then again you know again, if you know we watched

1548
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:52,080
Speaker 1: these games over and again, it's real. This transformation, this

1549
01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:54,160
Speaker 1: step he took this year was no fluke. It wasn't

1550
01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:55,840
Speaker 1: an up and down. It wasn't an this week and

1551
01:22:55,920 --> 01:23:00,680
Speaker 1: that week and that it was like consistent real it

1552
01:23:00,720 --> 01:23:04,080
Speaker 1: was a It was a change in what kind of

1553
01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:07,280
Speaker 1: quarterback he was from the year before. It wasn't like

1554
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:12,759
Speaker 1: you saw glimpses of it. It was every single week

1555
01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:15,960
Speaker 1: the guy was a different guy than he was the

1556
01:23:16,040 --> 01:23:21,320
Speaker 1: year before. And so the change seems to be permanent

1557
01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:24,240
Speaker 1: to me, this development and now certainly he's got an

1558
01:23:24,280 --> 01:23:25,680
Speaker 1: upside in all that. And And it doesn't mean he's never

1559
01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:28,639
Speaker 1: gonna have a bad game. I'm just saying that's who

1560
01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:32,280
Speaker 1: the guy is now, at least, if not, you know,

1561
01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:36,320
Speaker 1: an improving commodity as well. So I'm that's the thing

1562
01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:38,519
Speaker 1: that got me was the fact that this wasn't just

1563
01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:40,120
Speaker 1: like Wow, I hope he comes back and plays like

1564
01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:42,360
Speaker 1: that again. That's who the guy is now. Yeah. To me,

1565
01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:48,920
Speaker 1: I think the development he showed this year was more

1566
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:51,760
Speaker 1: about who he has become rather than who he could be.

1567
01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:55,280
Speaker 1: And you know, who he could be maybe somebody even

1568
01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:57,400
Speaker 1: a little better than this or whatever. But this, this

1569
01:23:57,439 --> 01:23:59,240
Speaker 1: is the guy you're going to get now. I think

1570
01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:04,800
Speaker 1: I expected from you know, for the rest of his career. Yeah,

1571
01:24:03,479 --> 01:24:08,280
Speaker 1: I yes, But knowing that people like Jordan Palmer who

1572
01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:10,400
Speaker 1: worked with him every day, don't believe he has his ceiling.

1573
01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:14,560
Speaker 1: I'm just wondering where it can go. I want to

1574
01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:17,760
Speaker 1: believe consistency of his game is probably what you're you're

1575
01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:19,519
Speaker 1: looking at the most. But it was pretty damn consistent

1576
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:25,200
Speaker 1: last year. So yeah, sixty nine percent completion, man, I

1577
01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:27,639
Speaker 1: mean that's and his team led the league in third down.

1578
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:29,880
Speaker 1: We were hoping version rate. I mean that speaks to

1579
01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:34,599
Speaker 1: his ability of decision making, and we were just we

1580
01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:39,080
Speaker 1: were like just meditating over maybe sixty four percent. Yeah,

1581
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:40,720
Speaker 1: you know, and then he has a couple of games

1582
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:43,679
Speaker 1: where he's you know, he was seventy, he was eighty

1583
01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:47,599
Speaker 1: in the one, and it's like, where does that come from?

1584
01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:51,679
Speaker 1: You know? So I'm yeah, I he is the best

1585
01:24:51,720 --> 01:24:54,160
Speaker 1: quarterback in the division, no question about it. And the

1586
01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:58,280
Speaker 1: best part about it is he's not going anywhere, and

1587
01:24:58,360 --> 01:25:00,519
Speaker 1: he's not he's not getting worse. I know that he's

1588
01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:05,200
Speaker 1: done nothing but trend upwards since his first snap, So

1589
01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:08,160
Speaker 1: you're right, I'm it's it's a lot of fun to

1590
01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:11,840
Speaker 1: think about it like that from Rogers. I'm at a

1591
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:15,360
Speaker 1: six at the moment. It could trend up if Miami

1592
01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:19,080
Speaker 1: gets to Shawn Watson or down. If New England can't

1593
01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:22,000
Speaker 1: fix their offense, and there's a lot of fixing that

1594
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:24,479
Speaker 1: has to happen with that offense. You've got some free

1595
01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:28,160
Speaker 1: agent offensive lineman again, most notably Joe Tuney, and then

1596
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:33,680
Speaker 1: you also have the receiver position to figure out and

1597
01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:36,439
Speaker 1: the quarterback position to figure out, and not for nothing,

1598
01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:39,840
Speaker 1: their tight end position was sortly lacking as well. They've

1599
01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:43,000
Speaker 1: got a lot of moving parts to come to come

1600
01:25:43,040 --> 01:25:46,040
Speaker 1: together to be good early in next season. Yeah, you

1601
01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:48,120
Speaker 1: know what I mean. They may be really good at

1602
01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:49,639
Speaker 1: the end of the year, but they've got a lot

1603
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:51,639
Speaker 1: to learn about themselves because of all the new people

1604
01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:53,320
Speaker 1: they're going to bring in, and even the guys coming

1605
01:25:53,360 --> 01:25:56,320
Speaker 1: off opt outs are gonna be kind of new, you know,

1606
01:25:56,640 --> 01:25:59,320
Speaker 1: or rusty, right, and they could be in a hole.

1607
01:25:59,360 --> 01:26:01,559
Speaker 1: They could find themselves in a hole by mid season

1608
01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:03,479
Speaker 1: that they can't climb out of. Even where the strong

1609
01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:06,640
Speaker 1: finish and their game, even the guys who opted out

1610
01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:08,680
Speaker 1: who coming back, their game might have been, you know,

1611
01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:10,600
Speaker 1: evolved a little bit while they were gone, and they

1612
01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:11,920
Speaker 1: don't know who those you know, they're gonna be a

1613
01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:13,800
Speaker 1: little bit of a different player, either better or worse

1614
01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:17,320
Speaker 1: or you know, some sort of just different. That's equal.

1615
01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:19,840
Speaker 1: It's just they got a lot of moving parts. I

1616
01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:23,120
Speaker 1: think they do trades to find Gilmore though, I think

1617
01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:25,559
Speaker 1: they move him to get assets in that they feel

1618
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:28,439
Speaker 1: can help them in other places. Their secondary is one

1619
01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:31,360
Speaker 1: of the strengths of their roster. They could they're in

1620
01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:33,720
Speaker 1: a position where they could trades to find Gilmour and

1621
01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:36,840
Speaker 1: not be crippled by it at the position that he

1622
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:39,040
Speaker 1: leaves vacant, you know what I mean, like J. C. Jackson,

1623
01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:42,920
Speaker 1: really good corner and they've got other guys back there still.

1624
01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:46,080
Speaker 1: You know, Steph gill I mean you think about it.

1625
01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:50,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you get you trade for Steph Gilmore. If

1626
01:26:50,439 --> 01:26:53,439
Speaker 1: you're the Bills, you got your other corner and you

1627
01:26:53,439 --> 01:26:54,960
Speaker 1: can get him and get him on that one year

1628
01:26:55,040 --> 01:26:56,880
Speaker 1: you got a seven million dollars deal. Say listen, you

1629
01:26:56,880 --> 01:26:58,160
Speaker 1: can come in and play. You can take a swing

1630
01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:00,479
Speaker 1: out of when the when the cap bounces back, you're

1631
01:27:00,479 --> 01:27:03,559
Speaker 1: gonna be on a really good defense this year. Um

1632
01:27:04,280 --> 01:27:07,680
Speaker 1: you could good Lord White. Right, So here's the thing. Yet,

1633
01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:10,479
Speaker 1: there's a lot of things here. We've never been in

1634
01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:13,559
Speaker 1: this position before as an organization. You know, this Bills

1635
01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:18,599
Speaker 1: team that there's so many enticing aspects to bring people here,

1636
01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:23,120
Speaker 1: particularly on an individual basis, Like a Steph Gilmour, if

1637
01:27:23,120 --> 01:27:25,000
Speaker 1: you want to take another swing at the pie, well,

1638
01:27:25,320 --> 01:27:27,479
Speaker 1: let's not forget this. He one of the reasons he

1639
01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:29,559
Speaker 1: signed in New England was to win a championship. That's

1640
01:27:29,560 --> 01:27:31,760
Speaker 1: why he left Buffalo. Right, you can come back and

1641
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:36,759
Speaker 1: win another one. Theoretically, well, right, they would be in position,

1642
01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:39,679
Speaker 1: and with him on that defense, Oh boy, with those

1643
01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:43,200
Speaker 1: four guys back there, hide Poyer. I'm just not convinced that.

1644
01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:46,720
Speaker 1: I'm not convinced the Patriots are doing that. They may not.

1645
01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:48,680
Speaker 1: They may not go for that. They may not go

1646
01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:52,000
Speaker 1: for that. But it's something the Bills have done that

1647
01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:55,000
Speaker 1: I have found intriguing since they since I first realized

1648
01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:58,080
Speaker 1: it was an on purpose philosophy of signing these guys

1649
01:27:58,120 --> 01:28:01,479
Speaker 1: these short term deals that they're highly motivated to come

1650
01:28:01,479 --> 01:28:06,280
Speaker 1: back and get another swing at it. Financially, they're they're compensated. Well,

1651
01:28:06,600 --> 01:28:08,439
Speaker 1: but it's a one year deal, so it's kind of

1652
01:28:08,479 --> 01:28:11,960
Speaker 1: like a one year guarantee. And they and these guys,

1653
01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:13,840
Speaker 1: just like we said, we're talking about Jordan Phillips, it

1654
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:15,880
Speaker 1: works the same in reverse. Well, they know, I gotta

1655
01:28:15,880 --> 01:28:17,439
Speaker 1: put it on tape this year. If I want to

1656
01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:19,800
Speaker 1: get paid next year, I gotta play. I gotta put it.

1657
01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:22,160
Speaker 1: I gotta put it out there and that and they

1658
01:28:22,200 --> 01:28:27,600
Speaker 1: that's a huge, huge driver for you know, for a

1659
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:30,439
Speaker 1: guy's career and their production on the field. All right,

1660
01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:32,360
Speaker 1: break time for us when we return more of your

1661
01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:34,759
Speaker 1: comments on the tweet sheet and coming up in about

1662
01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:39,360
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes one Jimmy Trainer from SI dot Com. Stay

1663
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:41,200
Speaker 1: tuned for it all. We'll be bringing it to you

1664
01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:43,559
Speaker 1: next here on One Bill's Live, presented by Kalid to Health.

1665
01:28:43,560 --> 01:28:57,439
Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One Bills Live,

1666
01:28:57,560 --> 01:28:59,360
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Task and we do close in an

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01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:01,960
Speaker 1: hour number two the show. Our number three will begin

1668
01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:05,840
Speaker 1: with one SI dot COM's Jimmy Trainer, who will be

1669
01:29:06,120 --> 01:29:09,280
Speaker 1: joining us to talk about some of the more humorous

1670
01:29:09,320 --> 01:29:11,920
Speaker 1: things going on in social media right now, among them

1671
01:29:12,040 --> 01:29:16,240
Speaker 1: JJ Watt's cryptic tweets that everybody's trying to decipher seventeen

1672
01:29:16,240 --> 01:29:19,400
Speaker 1: Ways to Sunday, and we'll talk to him about that

1673
01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:22,000
Speaker 1: along with some of the other things that he's been

1674
01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:24,679
Speaker 1: working on as he is the host of the SI

1675
01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:27,760
Speaker 1: Media podcast and you can follow him at Jimmy Train

1676
01:29:27,800 --> 01:29:30,200
Speaker 1: at r AI n A. So we'll catch up with

1677
01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:33,559
Speaker 1: our good friend Jimmy when we get back from break

1678
01:29:33,560 --> 01:29:35,559
Speaker 1: at the top of the hour. But we are looking

1679
01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:39,400
Speaker 1: at your comments on the tweet sheet right now, as

1680
01:29:39,400 --> 01:29:40,880
Speaker 1: we have been asking you, on a scale of one

1681
01:29:40,920 --> 01:29:43,320
Speaker 1: to ten, how concerned are you with the AFC East

1682
01:29:43,720 --> 01:29:49,439
Speaker 1: improving this off season? From j T, he says, a

1683
01:29:49,720 --> 01:29:55,040
Speaker 1: big fat zero. The Bills own this division and run

1684
01:29:55,080 --> 01:29:58,200
Speaker 1: the AFC East now and for a long time to come.

1685
01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:02,280
Speaker 1: Be ready, might be Billy Tasker. You deserve the Hall

1686
01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:05,600
Speaker 1: of fame. So there you go. JT is not concerned

1687
01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:08,719
Speaker 1: one iota about the other three teams in the division,

1688
01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:13,080
Speaker 1: not at all. Zero, big fat zero. If it wasn't

1689
01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:15,479
Speaker 1: for the pandemic. You just know that JT was sitting

1690
01:30:15,520 --> 01:30:17,559
Speaker 1: at the bar with his buddies when he tweeted that, right,

1691
01:30:18,920 --> 01:30:22,320
Speaker 1: right right zero. I'm sending it to Stephen Chris, right,

1692
01:30:22,400 --> 01:30:26,680
Speaker 1: big fat zero and plus. Unfortunately we put the thing

1693
01:30:26,680 --> 01:30:29,280
Speaker 1: out at like eleven am this more thirty. He may

1694
01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:35,160
Speaker 1: be he may day drinking at home, day drinking. It's

1695
01:30:35,200 --> 01:30:39,160
Speaker 1: a pandemic staple. I don't know if if zero is

1696
01:30:39,200 --> 01:30:41,519
Speaker 1: the way to go. We know how much rosters change

1697
01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:44,360
Speaker 1: year over year. And while I think the Bills are

1698
01:30:44,640 --> 01:30:48,240
Speaker 1: very well positioned to contend year after year on a

1699
01:30:48,280 --> 01:30:51,480
Speaker 1: perennial basis, especially with the guy they got at quarterback,

1700
01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:58,559
Speaker 1: you know that this is a hyper competitive league. I mean,

1701
01:30:58,840 --> 01:31:02,759
Speaker 1: these teams are not going to be standing pat The Bills,

1702
01:31:02,840 --> 01:31:05,120
Speaker 1: we know, don't think they can. They feel they need

1703
01:31:05,160 --> 01:31:07,120
Speaker 1: to take another step to get to the ultimate game.

1704
01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:09,360
Speaker 1: But all those other teams are doing the same damn thing,

1705
01:31:09,400 --> 01:31:12,400
Speaker 1: and they've got more resources to do it this offseason. Right.

1706
01:31:12,520 --> 01:31:15,200
Speaker 1: That's the thing that's the big fly in the ointment

1707
01:31:15,400 --> 01:31:17,040
Speaker 1: is that the fact that the Bills, for the first

1708
01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:20,240
Speaker 1: time under this regime, well since they got cap right

1709
01:31:20,439 --> 01:31:23,240
Speaker 1: after their first year, this is the first time where

1710
01:31:23,240 --> 01:31:24,680
Speaker 1: the Bills are kind of behind the eight Bowl, not

1711
01:31:24,840 --> 01:31:27,559
Speaker 1: of their own doing. It's the pandemic that dropped the

1712
01:31:27,600 --> 01:31:33,040
Speaker 1: cap down fifteen or twenty twenty million dollars, and because

1713
01:31:33,080 --> 01:31:38,080
Speaker 1: of that, they're caught not cap strong, and they're gonna

1714
01:31:38,120 --> 01:31:40,160
Speaker 1: have to deal with that in a way that maybe

1715
01:31:40,160 --> 01:31:42,720
Speaker 1: they didn't anticipate having to do. Now. Certainly, for you

1716
01:31:42,800 --> 01:31:44,639
Speaker 1: and me and for a lot of us out there,

1717
01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:49,599
Speaker 1: we've looked at wholesale change like, you know, cut this guy,

1718
01:31:49,640 --> 01:31:51,200
Speaker 1: this guy, this guy, and you'll be under the cap

1719
01:31:51,200 --> 01:31:52,800
Speaker 1: and you have enough money to spend for who whatever

1720
01:31:52,840 --> 01:31:56,559
Speaker 1: you need. Simple fact of the matter is they've got

1721
01:31:56,600 --> 01:31:59,400
Speaker 1: holes in their roster that if they cut this guy,

1722
01:31:59,439 --> 01:32:01,280
Speaker 1: that guy, and that they can't fill those back up,

1723
01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:04,519
Speaker 1: because that just gets them to a point where they

1724
01:32:04,520 --> 01:32:07,920
Speaker 1: can get the pieces that are vacated by the guy's leaving.

1725
01:32:10,040 --> 01:32:12,559
Speaker 1: They're in a tough spot here with their cat Now.

1726
01:32:12,640 --> 01:32:16,360
Speaker 1: It's not you know, nobody's sitting there wringing their hands,

1727
01:32:16,360 --> 01:32:17,960
Speaker 1: but they got some work to do, and it's gonna

1728
01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:20,720
Speaker 1: take a concerted effort by not only Brandon being and

1729
01:32:20,720 --> 01:32:22,720
Speaker 1: his stat but the players as well. They're gonna have

1730
01:32:22,760 --> 01:32:25,400
Speaker 1: to They're gonna have to restructure some guys. They're gonna

1731
01:32:25,400 --> 01:32:28,280
Speaker 1: have to say goodbye to some guys that nah, they're

1732
01:32:28,360 --> 01:32:30,559
Speaker 1: near and dear to you. One thing that Brandon Bean

1733
01:32:30,680 --> 01:32:34,000
Speaker 1: has done in the past with some contracts is he's

1734
01:32:34,080 --> 01:32:39,080
Speaker 1: asked players at times to take a pay cut with

1735
01:32:39,120 --> 01:32:42,160
Speaker 1: an opportunity to earn back at least some of it.

1736
01:32:42,240 --> 01:32:44,400
Speaker 1: Like they might ask a guy, hey, look, we're in

1737
01:32:44,439 --> 01:32:47,439
Speaker 1: a tough spot here, can you take a two million

1738
01:32:47,439 --> 01:32:49,959
Speaker 1: dollars pay cut. I'm gonna put incentives in your contract

1739
01:32:49,960 --> 01:32:52,800
Speaker 1: to give you an opportunity to earn it back over

1740
01:32:52,840 --> 01:32:54,960
Speaker 1: the course of the season with playing time and other

1741
01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:59,360
Speaker 1: stuff or other incentives, and some players have been amenable

1742
01:32:59,400 --> 01:33:02,599
Speaker 1: to that. Then you have the classic restructure. Put money

1743
01:33:02,640 --> 01:33:06,320
Speaker 1: in their pocket now, you know, spread out that money

1744
01:33:06,360 --> 01:33:09,080
Speaker 1: over the rest of the length of the deal. So

1745
01:33:09,120 --> 01:33:12,040
Speaker 1: they get money in their pocket guaranteed right now, and

1746
01:33:12,120 --> 01:33:14,559
Speaker 1: the Bills get some cap relief. That's another way to

1747
01:33:14,600 --> 01:33:18,760
Speaker 1: do it outright. Release is a real possibility for a

1748
01:33:18,760 --> 01:33:21,040
Speaker 1: couple of high priced players on this team with high

1749
01:33:21,120 --> 01:33:25,439
Speaker 1: cap figures. So there's a there's a number of ways

1750
01:33:25,800 --> 01:33:29,680
Speaker 1: to address it. None of them put you in a

1751
01:33:29,680 --> 01:33:34,280
Speaker 1: comfortable position as a as a GM though. Yeah. Tough spot. Yeah,

1752
01:33:34,320 --> 01:33:37,240
Speaker 1: And they're not alone. There's a ton of a ton

1753
01:33:37,280 --> 01:33:39,320
Speaker 1: of teams that have started having to do it as well.

1754
01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:40,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, I don't know how to pay.

1755
01:33:41,000 --> 01:33:42,439
Speaker 1: I don't know how the Saints are gonna put together

1756
01:33:42,479 --> 01:33:47,760
Speaker 1: a squad. It looks to me like they are. They're

1757
01:33:47,760 --> 01:33:51,559
Speaker 1: gonna have to. You know, their top fifty one, which

1758
01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:53,680
Speaker 1: is what your cap is structured after, is going to

1759
01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:56,519
Speaker 1: be their top forty two, and that's gonna be their team.

1760
01:33:58,160 --> 01:34:00,880
Speaker 1: They're gonna be last nine. I'll be on undrafted rookies.

1761
01:34:01,280 --> 01:34:03,880
Speaker 1: They may not have night last nine. They may only

1762
01:34:03,920 --> 01:34:08,280
Speaker 1: be able to sign forty eight guys and hope nobody

1763
01:34:08,320 --> 01:34:10,680
Speaker 1: gets hurt. I mean they are. That's gonna Steve, think

1764
01:34:10,680 --> 01:34:12,519
Speaker 1: about how tough that's gonna be. With an extra game

1765
01:34:12,520 --> 01:34:15,679
Speaker 1: on the regular season schedule this year, Yeah, play seventeen

1766
01:34:15,680 --> 01:34:19,559
Speaker 1: games of forty eight guys. Good lord man, Yeah, yeah,

1767
01:34:20,680 --> 01:34:24,960
Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about an active list every week. Yeah,

1768
01:34:25,040 --> 01:34:29,160
Speaker 1: jeez oh man. All right, we gotta take a break.

1769
01:34:29,200 --> 01:34:32,200
Speaker 1: But when we return, we will have SI dot COM's

1770
01:34:32,360 --> 01:34:35,040
Speaker 1: Jimmy train and joining us here, so stay tuned for that.

1771
01:34:35,080 --> 01:34:36,960
Speaker 1: We'll be talking with Jimmy when we return here on

1772
01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:39,160
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live, presented by Collid to Health, It's Buffalo

1773
01:34:39,160 --> 01:34:54,679
Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. Hello Bills Radio Network Sports Date your sports

1774
01:34:54,760 --> 01:34:57,040
Speaker 1: update from One Bill's Drive. Looks like Big Band will

1775
01:34:57,040 --> 01:34:59,960
Speaker 1: return to Pittsburgh next season. Steelers president Art Runny really

1776
01:35:00,200 --> 01:35:03,640
Speaker 1: the statement about Tuesday's meeting with the veteran QB and

1777
01:35:03,960 --> 01:35:06,800
Speaker 1: his return for the twenty twenty one season. Big Ben's

1778
01:35:06,800 --> 01:35:09,799
Speaker 1: agent Ryan Tolner said Tuesday that Rooney expressed a desire

1779
01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:12,439
Speaker 1: to have the quarterback back for an eighteenth season. Rooney

1780
01:35:12,520 --> 01:35:15,360
Speaker 1: confirmed that on Wednesday, while noting that there's still some

1781
01:35:15,400 --> 01:35:17,920
Speaker 1: work to do on his contract to ensure that he

1782
01:35:17,960 --> 01:35:20,760
Speaker 1: remains with the Steelers. Green Bay Packers running back Aaron

1783
01:35:20,840 --> 01:35:22,800
Speaker 1: Jones expected to be the top running back on the

1784
01:35:22,800 --> 01:35:25,439
Speaker 1: free agent market next month, and according to the Miami Herald,

1785
01:35:25,640 --> 01:35:27,800
Speaker 1: the Dolphins will be one of the teams pursuing him.

1786
01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:31,080
Speaker 1: The report says the interest is mutual with Jones, with

1787
01:35:31,080 --> 01:35:34,280
Speaker 1: the Dolphins among the teams he considers signing with this offseason.

1788
01:35:34,360 --> 01:35:37,320
Speaker 1: Jones coming off a second straight one thousand yards season

1789
01:35:37,320 --> 01:35:39,679
Speaker 1: in Green Bay, with a career best eleven hundred yards

1790
01:35:39,960 --> 01:35:42,840
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty after winning his seventh Super Bowl. Tom

1791
01:35:42,880 --> 01:35:45,800
Speaker 1: Brady's NFL career seems poised to extend beyond the two

1792
01:35:45,880 --> 01:35:49,200
Speaker 1: seasons for which he signed with Tampa Bay Bucks GM

1793
01:35:49,320 --> 01:35:52,120
Speaker 1: Jason light, when asked on The Rich Eisen's show about

1794
01:35:52,120 --> 01:35:55,160
Speaker 1: whether he's considering an extension for Brady, said quote, he

1795
01:35:55,240 --> 01:35:57,400
Speaker 1: certainly didn't look like he slowed down any this year,

1796
01:35:57,439 --> 01:35:59,760
Speaker 1: so that's a possibility. We'll have to see how that

1797
01:35:59,800 --> 01:36:02,439
Speaker 1: goes end quote. Savers picked up a four one win

1798
01:36:02,520 --> 01:36:04,720
Speaker 1: last night over the Devils in New Jersey. Buffalo got

1799
01:36:04,720 --> 01:36:07,639
Speaker 1: off to a three nothing lead with goals by Victor Olifson,

1800
01:36:07,720 --> 01:36:10,479
Speaker 1: Rasmus Asplin, and Dylan Cousins, while Cody Eken added an

1801
01:36:10,479 --> 01:36:12,720
Speaker 1: empty net goal with less than a second to play.

1802
01:36:12,840 --> 01:36:15,679
Speaker 1: Lenaus Ollmark with forty one saves in the win. After

1803
01:36:15,720 --> 01:36:17,160
Speaker 1: being on the road for a week, The team will

1804
01:36:17,240 --> 01:36:20,519
Speaker 1: end Wednesday off before hosting the Devils on Thursday night.

1805
01:36:20,960 --> 01:36:24,880
Speaker 1: And Montreal Canadians general manager Mark Verjevon announced on Wednesday

1806
01:36:24,920 --> 01:36:27,679
Speaker 1: that head coach Claude Julian and associate coach Kurt Muller

1807
01:36:27,960 --> 01:36:31,040
Speaker 1: were relieved of their coaching duties. The move comes after

1808
01:36:31,160 --> 01:36:34,720
Speaker 1: Montreal lost two straight games to the Ottawa Senators. That

1809
01:36:34,880 --> 01:36:37,280
Speaker 1: is your sports update from One Builds Drive Chris Brown

1810
01:36:37,320 --> 01:36:40,599
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you, broadcasting live from the Seneca Studios

1811
01:36:40,640 --> 01:36:42,960
Speaker 1: here in Orchard Park, or our number three of a

1812
01:36:43,000 --> 01:36:46,320
Speaker 1: Wednesday edition of the show, and joining us on the

1813
01:36:46,360 --> 01:36:50,840
Speaker 1: line right now from SI dot com. He'll write about

1814
01:36:50,880 --> 01:36:53,640
Speaker 1: just about anything under the sun that's relatively interesting on

1815
01:36:53,680 --> 01:36:56,880
Speaker 1: the sporting landscape and man he has taken the ball

1816
01:36:56,960 --> 01:37:01,880
Speaker 1: and run with the JJ Watt social media explosion, as

1817
01:37:01,920 --> 01:37:04,880
Speaker 1: he's got people pretty much taking on the role of

1818
01:37:04,880 --> 01:37:07,760
Speaker 1: where in the world is Carmen San Diego With all

1819
01:37:07,760 --> 01:37:10,880
Speaker 1: of these cryptic tweets that JJ Watt is tweeting out, Man,

1820
01:37:10,960 --> 01:37:12,760
Speaker 1: you have made a mountain out of a mole hill

1821
01:37:12,800 --> 01:37:16,240
Speaker 1: with this one. Jimmy, thanks for joining us. I adn't

1822
01:37:16,240 --> 01:37:20,639
Speaker 1: do anything. I'm you know, I'm just taking JJ's tweets

1823
01:37:20,640 --> 01:37:23,640
Speaker 1: and showing the response to them. Oh my god, it's hilarious.

1824
01:37:23,720 --> 01:37:27,320
Speaker 1: You know, fans across the NFL clearly want jj Watt

1825
01:37:27,400 --> 01:37:32,720
Speaker 1: on their team. So he you know, he started out

1826
01:37:32,760 --> 01:37:35,479
Speaker 1: with some simple stuff free agent and free agency is

1827
01:37:35,520 --> 01:37:39,360
Speaker 1: wild and give me some time. And then yesterday he

1828
01:37:39,400 --> 01:37:44,320
Speaker 1: throughout this just bizarre tweet about some yeah, that mitochondria

1829
01:37:44,640 --> 01:37:46,439
Speaker 1: is the powerhouse of this cell. I don't know what

1830
01:37:46,479 --> 01:37:48,880
Speaker 1: that has to do with football or anything, but I

1831
01:37:48,920 --> 01:37:52,200
Speaker 1: think he saw the reaction to the first few tweets

1832
01:37:52,200 --> 01:37:55,479
Speaker 1: over the last week and yesterday woke up and said,

1833
01:37:55,560 --> 01:37:58,519
Speaker 1: you know, I'm basically going to mess with people today. Yeah,

1834
01:37:58,560 --> 01:38:01,960
Speaker 1: I mean, this is how Bill's how myopic Bills fans

1835
01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:06,400
Speaker 1: are with respect to the NFL landscape. First he puts

1836
01:38:06,400 --> 01:38:09,400
Speaker 1: out an Instagram post of his wife eating chicken wings

1837
01:38:09,720 --> 01:38:13,160
Speaker 1: that through that turned Buffalo on its ear. Then they

1838
01:38:13,160 --> 01:38:15,799
Speaker 1: had the clip of him and his brother shoveling snow

1839
01:38:16,280 --> 01:38:17,960
Speaker 1: and bills. Fans are like, hey, he's coming out of

1840
01:38:17,960 --> 01:38:20,000
Speaker 1: the bill. I'm like, there is snow in other places

1841
01:38:20,120 --> 01:38:24,439
Speaker 1: besides Buffalo, like where he's from, Milwaukee, for example. But

1842
01:38:24,560 --> 01:38:27,759
Speaker 1: this is how far people went with mitochondria. They counted

1843
01:38:27,840 --> 01:38:30,439
Speaker 1: up the letters. One of our fellow radio broadcasters here

1844
01:38:30,439 --> 01:38:32,280
Speaker 1: in Buffalo counted up the letters that same number of

1845
01:38:32,360 --> 01:38:35,000
Speaker 1: letters as Buffalo bills He's coming to Buffalo. Then the

1846
01:38:35,040 --> 01:38:37,640
Speaker 1: one he sent out today Jimmy with him in a

1847
01:38:37,680 --> 01:38:41,920
Speaker 1: training facility, an indoor training facility, saying scary hours or whatever.

1848
01:38:42,320 --> 01:38:44,519
Speaker 1: They looked at the logo in the middle of the field,

1849
01:38:44,520 --> 01:38:47,120
Speaker 1: which was b N, and Steve even went so far

1850
01:38:47,160 --> 01:38:49,600
Speaker 1: as to say, oh, that means Buffalo. Next, that's what

1851
01:38:49,680 --> 01:38:51,880
Speaker 1: b N stands. Where I'm like, okay, Steve's fallen into

1852
01:38:51,920 --> 01:38:53,960
Speaker 1: the trap now here too. It's just it's taken on

1853
01:38:54,040 --> 01:38:57,479
Speaker 1: a life of its own. I hope it continues because

1854
01:38:57,479 --> 01:38:59,760
Speaker 1: it's actually pretty fun and there's nothing really going on

1855
01:39:00,040 --> 01:39:02,080
Speaker 1: right now if the NFL season over, so I like

1856
01:39:02,200 --> 01:39:04,439
Speaker 1: to me, if he spends the next few weeks tweeting

1857
01:39:04,439 --> 01:39:08,200
Speaker 1: out nonsense and people can try to interpret and decipher it,

1858
01:39:08,400 --> 01:39:10,280
Speaker 1: I'm all for it. What do you think, Pete? What

1859
01:39:10,320 --> 01:39:11,960
Speaker 1: do you think a team's gonna get with him? I mean,

1860
01:39:12,080 --> 01:39:15,200
Speaker 1: he played sixteen games this last year, didn't have much

1861
01:39:15,240 --> 01:39:17,200
Speaker 1: help on his side of the football, still had a

1862
01:39:17,200 --> 01:39:20,680
Speaker 1: pretty good year, productive year. What he got left in

1863
01:39:20,680 --> 01:39:22,240
Speaker 1: the tank? What do you and what do you think

1864
01:39:22,240 --> 01:39:25,360
Speaker 1: it's gonna take for a team to entice him to

1865
01:39:25,520 --> 01:39:29,080
Speaker 1: be part of their squad. Yeah, I mean, listen, obviously

1866
01:39:29,160 --> 01:39:31,240
Speaker 1: you know the Steelers both of his brothers of air.

1867
01:39:31,600 --> 01:39:34,000
Speaker 1: He's from Wisconsin. The Packers are one of the top

1868
01:39:34,040 --> 01:39:37,639
Speaker 1: teams in the league. So you know, I think those

1869
01:39:37,680 --> 01:39:40,280
Speaker 1: two teams would have sort of the lead on this.

1870
01:39:40,960 --> 01:39:44,040
Speaker 1: I don't think I would. I don't know him well

1871
01:39:44,120 --> 01:39:45,560
Speaker 1: enough to know, Like, I don't think money is the

1872
01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:47,760
Speaker 1: motivating for him. I think he honestly wants to win.

1873
01:39:48,960 --> 01:39:51,840
Speaker 1: I'll say this. You know, listen, I don't know the

1874
01:39:52,120 --> 01:39:54,320
Speaker 1: xs and o's of a defensive lineman, and I know

1875
01:39:54,400 --> 01:39:57,360
Speaker 1: people have written that, you know, he didn't have a

1876
01:39:57,400 --> 01:39:59,800
Speaker 1: great year last year, or you know, the numbers may

1877
01:39:59,840 --> 01:40:03,640
Speaker 1: not with baby. I interviewed JJ before the start of

1878
01:40:03,720 --> 01:40:07,559
Speaker 1: last season, and I got it was right after they

1879
01:40:07,560 --> 01:40:14,040
Speaker 1: had traded d Andrew Hopkins, and just from just from

1880
01:40:14,040 --> 01:40:17,439
Speaker 1: knowing interviewing him over the years following him. When I

1881
01:40:17,479 --> 01:40:20,280
Speaker 1: interviewed him that day, I knew he was going to

1882
01:40:20,320 --> 01:40:22,000
Speaker 1: be a Gonner after the season. I just had a

1883
01:40:22,000 --> 01:40:24,519
Speaker 1: feeling he was like, if they didn't, you know, if

1884
01:40:24,520 --> 01:40:27,200
Speaker 1: the Texans didn't have a good season, you could just

1885
01:40:27,240 --> 01:40:30,120
Speaker 1: tell he's fed up. He's been there long enough and

1886
01:40:30,200 --> 01:40:33,120
Speaker 1: he wants to be on a winning team. And that

1887
01:40:33,200 --> 01:40:36,479
Speaker 1: team is a complete mess. In many facets, you have

1888
01:40:36,640 --> 01:40:39,760
Speaker 1: the weirdness of the easter by dude. You know, they

1889
01:40:39,800 --> 01:40:42,880
Speaker 1: fired Bill O'Bryan, who was a terrible in game head coach.

1890
01:40:44,120 --> 01:40:47,639
Speaker 1: You know, they lose Hopkins, Watson's on the butt. I

1891
01:40:47,680 --> 01:40:53,000
Speaker 1: think he will be extremely motivated wherever he goes next year,

1892
01:40:53,600 --> 01:40:55,800
Speaker 1: and I think you will see a return sort of

1893
01:40:55,840 --> 01:40:58,960
Speaker 1: to the old JJ watch just from there's athletes in

1894
01:40:58,960 --> 01:41:01,080
Speaker 1: all sports. It's not just for call. Change of sceneries

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Speaker 1: a big thing, and I think this is a classic

1896
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Speaker 1: case of that. Talk At SI dot COM's Jimmy Trana,

1897
01:41:05,640 --> 01:41:08,160
Speaker 1: who writes Trainers Thoughts as well as hosts the SI

1898
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Speaker 1: Media podcast. And I saw your recent write up, Jimmy

1899
01:41:12,200 --> 01:41:17,439
Speaker 1: with respect to ESPN bristling at the NFL's asking price

1900
01:41:17,600 --> 01:41:21,439
Speaker 1: for Monday Night Football. I know ESPN is seeking the

1901
01:41:21,560 --> 01:41:25,599
Speaker 1: freedom to get better matchups late in the season so

1902
01:41:25,640 --> 01:41:28,960
Speaker 1: they don't have any dog games in prime time, but

1903
01:41:29,040 --> 01:41:32,639
Speaker 1: what is the asking price? Just to kind of shed

1904
01:41:32,640 --> 01:41:35,600
Speaker 1: some light on the subject or the ballpark anyway that

1905
01:41:35,720 --> 01:41:38,040
Speaker 1: has them bristling, just so our listeners can kind of

1906
01:41:38,040 --> 01:41:41,280
Speaker 1: get a lay of the land there. Sure, So ESPN

1907
01:41:42,240 --> 01:41:47,519
Speaker 1: was paying one point nine billion billion for the Monday

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Speaker 1: Night football package, which is not a good package at

1909
01:41:49,880 --> 01:41:53,120
Speaker 1: all because the best games are on Sunday Night Sunday

1910
01:41:53,120 --> 01:41:57,479
Speaker 1: four twenty five, and then the Thursday night came into play,

1911
01:41:57,520 --> 01:42:01,400
Speaker 1: so ESPN was often getting third four or even worse

1912
01:42:01,920 --> 01:42:05,439
Speaker 1: best game of the week. One point nine billion. NFL

1913
01:42:05,680 --> 01:42:09,000
Speaker 1: wanted to basically turn that into four million, four billion

1914
01:42:09,840 --> 01:42:14,479
Speaker 1: for this round of contracts. John o Ran from Sports

1915
01:42:14,479 --> 01:42:18,320
Speaker 1: Business Journal reported earlier this week it looks like the

1916
01:42:18,400 --> 01:42:22,760
Speaker 1: NFL maybe asking for three point five billion, So the

1917
01:42:22,920 --> 01:42:26,879
Speaker 1: cost for ESPN slash Disney to air Monday Night football

1918
01:42:27,439 --> 01:42:30,759
Speaker 1: will go from one point nine billion to maybe three

1919
01:42:30,800 --> 01:42:36,719
Speaker 1: point five billion, and again not even close to getting

1920
01:42:36,720 --> 01:42:39,080
Speaker 1: the best game of the week. So ESPN, of you know,

1921
01:42:39,400 --> 01:42:43,160
Speaker 1: I don't blame them, you know, maybe not thrilled with

1922
01:42:43,240 --> 01:42:47,240
Speaker 1: the NFL NFL's asking price, but the NFL is king

1923
01:42:47,400 --> 01:42:49,880
Speaker 1: and they rule the country and we're all addicted to

1924
01:42:49,960 --> 01:42:51,519
Speaker 1: the NFL, and they can do what they want. And

1925
01:42:51,600 --> 01:42:55,479
Speaker 1: what about the I read also about a simulcast thought too,

1926
01:42:55,720 --> 01:42:58,479
Speaker 1: putting the game on ABC in addition to ESPN. Is

1927
01:42:58,520 --> 01:43:00,840
Speaker 1: that kind of ESPN's give act to them to kind

1928
01:43:00,840 --> 01:43:03,080
Speaker 1: of get the flexibility that they're looking for or what's

1929
01:43:03,120 --> 01:43:07,320
Speaker 1: the dealer? Well, from what I've heard, they'd only have flex,

1930
01:43:07,439 --> 01:43:09,200
Speaker 1: you know, maybe the last three weeks of the season,

1931
01:43:09,280 --> 01:43:11,439
Speaker 1: and again the logistics of that are not going to

1932
01:43:11,479 --> 01:43:13,799
Speaker 1: be easy because NBC is still going to have FLEX

1933
01:43:13,840 --> 01:43:18,679
Speaker 1: for Sunday Night. So even with flex, I'm not sure

1934
01:43:18,720 --> 01:43:22,519
Speaker 1: how much ESPN, you know, the league still has to

1935
01:43:22,560 --> 01:43:25,840
Speaker 1: protect Fox and CBS on Sunday afternoon. The highest rated

1936
01:43:25,920 --> 01:43:27,720
Speaker 1: game of the week is not Sunday night, Monday night

1937
01:43:27,760 --> 01:43:31,000
Speaker 1: at Thursday night, It's Sunday at four twenty five whatever.

1938
01:43:31,040 --> 01:43:33,759
Speaker 1: The main game is on Fox or CBS. It obviously

1939
01:43:33,880 --> 01:43:37,000
Speaker 1: rotates week to week. Those are the highest rated games

1940
01:43:37,040 --> 01:43:39,240
Speaker 1: the week. So the NFL is going to protect Sunday

1941
01:43:39,320 --> 01:43:42,720
Speaker 1: night with NBC. They're going to protect Sunday afternoon at

1942
01:43:42,720 --> 01:43:45,240
Speaker 1: four to twenty five. So even with flex, I'm not

1943
01:43:45,320 --> 01:43:47,160
Speaker 1: sure what ESPN is gonna be able to get at

1944
01:43:47,200 --> 01:43:49,599
Speaker 1: of it now listen late in the season. Obviously, more

1945
01:43:49,640 --> 01:43:52,360
Speaker 1: matchups mean more things. Is you try to clear up

1946
01:43:52,400 --> 01:43:55,360
Speaker 1: the playoff picture, so it won't hurt that's a shore.

1947
01:43:55,439 --> 01:44:01,160
Speaker 1: But again it's a hefty, hefty rights fee increase, and

1948
01:44:01,200 --> 01:44:03,360
Speaker 1: that's the NFL is asking. And that's just for one

1949
01:44:03,520 --> 01:44:06,120
Speaker 1: game a week. What is the number gonna look like

1950
01:44:06,240 --> 01:44:10,800
Speaker 1: for CBS and Fox any ideas? Yeah, they're they're gonna

1951
01:44:10,800 --> 01:44:13,519
Speaker 1: be paying double what they pay less. Believe it or not,

1952
01:44:13,560 --> 01:44:16,680
Speaker 1: it's CBS and Fox pay less than the ESPN M

1953
01:44:17,400 --> 01:44:19,519
Speaker 1: but you know they're getting hit with you know, the

1954
01:44:19,640 --> 01:44:22,639
Speaker 1: NFL wants that increase across the board from all the partners.

1955
01:44:23,400 --> 01:44:25,680
Speaker 1: And then what about the streaming situation. I mean, he's

1956
01:44:25,720 --> 01:44:30,920
Speaker 1: Amazon the odds on favorite there For what I was told,

1957
01:44:31,160 --> 01:44:33,240
Speaker 1: I had John Overran again from s Fourth Business Journal

1958
01:44:33,280 --> 01:44:35,120
Speaker 1: on my podcast a few weeks a couple of weeks ago,

1959
01:44:35,600 --> 01:44:38,719
Speaker 1: it looks like, um, the networks are out on Thursday

1960
01:44:38,800 --> 01:44:41,400
Speaker 1: Night Football. The cost is just too much and you

1961
01:44:41,439 --> 01:44:45,000
Speaker 1: know they have other packages. So it appears if it

1962
01:44:45,040 --> 01:44:47,640
Speaker 1: could change, obviously this should all get settled in the

1963
01:44:47,680 --> 01:44:50,880
Speaker 1: next month, but as of now, it appears that Thursday

1964
01:44:50,960 --> 01:44:54,280
Speaker 1: Night will just air on NFL network only and stream

1965
01:44:54,400 --> 01:44:57,080
Speaker 1: on Amazon Prime. The game was the Thursday Night game

1966
01:44:57,120 --> 01:45:00,240
Speaker 1: was always sort of on NFL Network and simulcast but Box.

1967
01:45:00,360 --> 01:45:03,760
Speaker 1: But the Fox will be out apparently, and the games

1968
01:45:03,760 --> 01:45:06,000
Speaker 1: will just be on NFL Network and streams on Amazon.

1969
01:45:06,280 --> 01:45:10,080
Speaker 1: And that's yet another revenue stream, right, I mean, you

1970
01:45:10,120 --> 01:45:14,000
Speaker 1: start streaming alive, Amazon's in and that's that's aside from

1971
01:45:14,040 --> 01:45:17,400
Speaker 1: ABC and Fox or CBS and Fox. That's an extra

1972
01:45:17,960 --> 01:45:20,439
Speaker 1: just platform that somebody's got to pay to put out there.

1973
01:45:20,439 --> 01:45:23,160
Speaker 1: And then in this case is going to be Amazon. Yeah.

1974
01:45:23,160 --> 01:45:25,280
Speaker 1: And the other thing we haven't even discussed, which is

1975
01:45:25,280 --> 01:45:27,080
Speaker 1: a huge, huge thing. And all this is what happens

1976
01:45:27,080 --> 01:45:31,160
Speaker 1: with NFL Sunday Ticket on direct TV. The rumblings on

1977
01:45:31,200 --> 01:45:34,960
Speaker 1: that have been very quiet. Nothing great has come out,

1978
01:45:35,560 --> 01:45:38,200
Speaker 1: but from what you hear, direct V is not going

1979
01:45:38,240 --> 01:45:41,519
Speaker 1: to have exclusivity on that anymore. Right now, the only

1980
01:45:41,560 --> 01:45:43,080
Speaker 1: way to watch, you know, all the games on a

1981
01:45:43,120 --> 01:45:47,760
Speaker 1: Sunday is with the direct TV. Some streaming service is

1982
01:45:47,800 --> 01:45:50,160
Speaker 1: probably going to jump into Sunday Ticket. We don't know

1983
01:45:50,200 --> 01:45:52,920
Speaker 1: which one. We don't know if it gets opened up

1984
01:45:52,920 --> 01:45:55,599
Speaker 1: at all in it in a broadcast television way, but

1985
01:45:56,560 --> 01:46:00,120
Speaker 1: it does appear the days of Sunday Ticket only being

1986
01:46:00,120 --> 01:46:01,880
Speaker 1: on direct TV. It will be coming to an end soon.

1987
01:46:03,120 --> 01:46:07,920
Speaker 1: And then Jimmy, just with respect to it, it was interesting.

1988
01:46:07,960 --> 01:46:10,679
Speaker 1: It piqued my interest, Like you were asking which concert

1989
01:46:10,720 --> 01:46:13,720
Speaker 1: would you want to see a ten percent capacity? I

1990
01:46:13,720 --> 01:46:17,280
Speaker 1: don't know what your source was for this, but I

1991
01:46:17,320 --> 01:46:20,479
Speaker 1: did see that Sammy Hagar comment where he was talking

1992
01:46:20,479 --> 01:46:23,080
Speaker 1: about this, and he's like, I would not want to

1993
01:46:23,200 --> 01:46:25,800
Speaker 1: have ten percent at a venue. Why would I do

1994
01:46:25,840 --> 01:46:27,760
Speaker 1: that in the first place? Because and then on top

1995
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Speaker 1: of that, I could be held libel if somebody catches

1996
01:46:30,720 --> 01:46:34,320
Speaker 1: coronavirus at the concert, they're gonnasume me. So that's why

1997
01:46:34,360 --> 01:46:36,160
Speaker 1: he was against it. Was that the genesis of where

1998
01:46:36,200 --> 01:46:38,280
Speaker 1: you went with that right up? Or no, No, what

1999
01:46:38,400 --> 01:46:40,760
Speaker 1: had happened that came up? Because I was in the

2000
01:46:40,800 --> 01:46:45,360
Speaker 1: middle of taping a podcast with Kevin Clark, from the Ringer. Yeah,

2001
01:46:45,560 --> 01:46:48,599
Speaker 1: And as I was taping that podcast, the news broke

2002
01:46:48,960 --> 01:46:51,960
Speaker 1: that here in New York they were going to start

2003
01:46:52,000 --> 01:46:55,760
Speaker 1: allowing people into Madison Square Garden and Barclay Centers and

2004
01:46:55,920 --> 01:46:59,320
Speaker 1: Barclay Center for Nicks and Nets games, respectively. I got

2005
01:46:59,320 --> 01:47:01,880
Speaker 1: the number wrong. It ended up last night, And last

2006
01:47:01,960 --> 01:47:03,679
Speaker 1: night was the first night they had fans in Madison

2007
01:47:03,680 --> 01:47:06,200
Speaker 1: Square Garden and the Knicks had two thousand people in

2008
01:47:06,240 --> 01:47:09,000
Speaker 1: the building, So it's not quite ten percent. It normally holds.

2009
01:47:09,760 --> 01:47:13,000
Speaker 1: The garden normally holds eighteen thousand, nineteen thousand. They had

2010
01:47:13,040 --> 01:47:16,000
Speaker 1: two thousand in Madison Square Garden last night for Nick's Warriors.

2011
01:47:16,520 --> 01:47:19,840
Speaker 1: So that's how that conversation started. Now, so Sammy Haygar

2012
01:47:19,920 --> 01:47:22,760
Speaker 1: saying he'd rather play with no fans, or he's saying no.

2013
01:47:22,800 --> 01:47:25,680
Speaker 1: They asked him, you know, would you be okay, you know,

2014
01:47:25,800 --> 01:47:28,400
Speaker 1: doing a concert in front of a reduced crowd, and

2015
01:47:28,479 --> 01:47:31,559
Speaker 1: he said no, because it's not the same vibe. And

2016
01:47:31,600 --> 01:47:34,000
Speaker 1: then he took it a step further and said, the

2017
01:47:34,040 --> 01:47:35,639
Speaker 1: other reason why I'm not doing it is I don't

2018
01:47:35,640 --> 01:47:38,320
Speaker 1: want to get sued because all I won't get sued.

2019
01:47:38,600 --> 01:47:41,120
Speaker 1: He won't get sued because it's there. I'm sure there's

2020
01:47:41,120 --> 01:47:43,760
Speaker 1: all legal jargon on the tickets about it. Yeah, I

2021
01:47:43,800 --> 01:47:46,240
Speaker 1: would think so too, But he was he didn't want

2022
01:47:46,240 --> 01:47:48,400
Speaker 1: to go down that road at all. He was just

2023
01:47:48,439 --> 01:47:52,960
Speaker 1: like no interest. Yeah, hard to get with energy from

2024
01:47:52,960 --> 01:47:55,760
Speaker 1: ten percent of the crowd that the place holds. It's

2025
01:47:55,760 --> 01:47:59,400
Speaker 1: like a back party right. In my conversation with Kevin Clark,

2026
01:47:59,400 --> 01:48:01,000
Speaker 1: I said Billy Jol would be someone who would be

2027
01:48:01,000 --> 01:48:02,599
Speaker 1: good to see a ten percent because he just sits

2028
01:48:02,640 --> 01:48:05,000
Speaker 1: at the piano and plays his songs and doesn't move around,

2029
01:48:05,000 --> 01:48:07,400
Speaker 1: and you don't need a ton of energy there, whereas

2030
01:48:07,479 --> 01:48:10,680
Speaker 1: you know, um, you know someone who's who's giving you

2031
01:48:10,720 --> 01:48:13,280
Speaker 1: a performance. It's tough at ten percent. But I you know,

2032
01:48:13,320 --> 01:48:17,400
Speaker 1: I didn't realize Sammy Hagar is like selling out buildings

2033
01:48:17,439 --> 01:48:19,599
Speaker 1: all over the country. Yeah, he's not talking, he's not

2034
01:48:19,640 --> 01:48:22,000
Speaker 1: at this rate. I think we all can agree to that,

2035
01:48:22,160 --> 01:48:25,320
Speaker 1: whether it's with Sammy, would be thrilled ten percent, Yeah,

2036
01:48:25,439 --> 01:48:27,240
Speaker 1: you would think, right. I mean, it's not like he's

2037
01:48:27,320 --> 01:48:29,240
Speaker 1: raking it in these days. But what the hell do

2038
01:48:29,280 --> 01:48:33,120
Speaker 1: we know about the music industry. I guess the Lombardi

2039
01:48:33,439 --> 01:48:39,120
Speaker 1: trophy designer's daughter this one. I mean, we got to

2040
01:48:39,160 --> 01:48:42,479
Speaker 1: settle down here, right? I mean, does this scream Karen

2041
01:48:42,560 --> 01:48:46,760
Speaker 1: with a capital K. You know, I was torn when

2042
01:48:46,800 --> 01:48:48,559
Speaker 1: I wrote about it because there was a part of

2043
01:48:48,560 --> 01:48:52,400
Speaker 1: me that actually felt bad for this woman because this

2044
01:48:52,479 --> 01:48:54,000
Speaker 1: is one of the rare k I mean, you don't

2045
01:48:54,000 --> 01:48:56,120
Speaker 1: see this at all these days. This does not happen

2046
01:48:56,160 --> 01:49:00,479
Speaker 1: anymore in America where one of the people are on

2047
01:49:00,520 --> 01:49:03,560
Speaker 1: one side of an argument. I don't think there was

2048
01:49:03,680 --> 01:49:06,800
Speaker 1: anybody on this person's side. And I kind of felt

2049
01:49:06,800 --> 01:49:09,360
Speaker 1: bad for her because you know, she's getting it pretty

2050
01:49:09,400 --> 01:49:11,760
Speaker 1: good on the Internet and Twitter. But when you say

2051
01:49:11,800 --> 01:49:14,360
Speaker 1: something is ridiculing, you know, when you're demanding. And so

2052
01:49:14,439 --> 01:49:18,080
Speaker 1: let's say Tom Brady would have apologized hypothetically for throwing

2053
01:49:18,120 --> 01:49:21,439
Speaker 1: But what does that do for you? Exactly? Like what

2054
01:49:21,479 --> 01:49:24,599
Speaker 1: does the forced apology do? Like, you know, he doesn't

2055
01:49:24,600 --> 01:49:26,040
Speaker 1: mean it. You know, he's only doing it because you

2056
01:49:26,080 --> 01:49:28,639
Speaker 1: made us think about it. So like, what does it accomplish? Exactly?

2057
01:49:28,720 --> 01:49:33,040
Speaker 1: Like the begging for forced apologies I don't understand. And

2058
01:49:33,720 --> 01:49:36,559
Speaker 1: you know, you know, I don't want to disrespect anyone's work,

2059
01:49:36,640 --> 01:49:39,639
Speaker 1: but it is a trophy, I mean, people's This country

2060
01:49:39,640 --> 01:49:43,280
Speaker 1: has a bizarre fascination with like trophies and muse the

2061
01:49:43,439 --> 01:49:47,120
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, museums and statues, and it's just it's

2062
01:49:47,120 --> 01:49:49,360
Speaker 1: just an object. It's no one's gonna get hurt. It's

2063
01:49:49,360 --> 01:49:51,040
Speaker 1: not a big deal. If he throws it, the world

2064
01:49:51,040 --> 01:49:56,559
Speaker 1: will move on, right, And you know, it's time to

2065
01:49:56,640 --> 01:50:00,400
Speaker 1: check the depth of the canal there at it. And

2066
01:50:00,560 --> 01:50:02,840
Speaker 1: I think it's they could build a new one, I

2067
01:50:02,840 --> 01:50:06,800
Speaker 1: mean exactly. And my thought about it was was as well,

2068
01:50:07,000 --> 01:50:13,040
Speaker 1: was that, uh, nobody cares, even the guys that are

2069
01:50:13,080 --> 01:50:15,160
Speaker 1: went that won the stinking thing. It's like they don't

2070
01:50:15,200 --> 01:50:16,920
Speaker 1: care about the trophy. They're getting a ring out of it.

2071
01:50:16,960 --> 01:50:19,400
Speaker 1: And if you threw one of their rings, now we're

2072
01:50:19,439 --> 01:50:24,599
Speaker 1: talking now you're talking about somebody's personal memento of the thing. Um.

2073
01:50:25,240 --> 01:50:28,160
Speaker 1: The club may not may have to get another one

2074
01:50:28,160 --> 01:50:31,519
Speaker 1: to put in their fourier of their club field house,

2075
01:50:31,560 --> 01:50:35,840
Speaker 1: but you know, nobody cares. And I have a feeling

2076
01:50:35,920 --> 01:50:38,439
Speaker 1: Roger Goodell could order up another Lombardi trophy if he

2077
01:50:38,479 --> 01:50:40,280
Speaker 1: had this just in. They're going to order one up

2078
01:50:40,320 --> 01:50:42,599
Speaker 1: anyway for this nutcoming game too. I mean there's another

2079
01:50:42,640 --> 01:50:44,679
Speaker 1: one coming up. There's in eleven and a half months

2080
01:50:44,680 --> 01:50:46,880
Speaker 1: that they'll that they'll have a fresh one for anyway.

2081
01:50:46,920 --> 01:50:49,280
Speaker 1: So I'm totally with it and I and I thought too,

2082
01:50:49,360 --> 01:50:52,360
Speaker 1: and maybe you know this. I've seen guys with small

2083
01:50:52,400 --> 01:50:54,599
Speaker 1: replicas of that. Do the team do teams give those

2084
01:50:54,600 --> 01:50:58,439
Speaker 1: two guys? You know, I would assume that's the real one,

2085
01:50:58,479 --> 01:51:01,519
Speaker 1: and they you know, they for the parade whatever I

2086
01:51:01,520 --> 01:51:03,040
Speaker 1: mean you wanted to label that it was. It was

2087
01:51:03,080 --> 01:51:06,120
Speaker 1: a boath parade. Um, I'm sure that was the real one.

2088
01:51:06,280 --> 01:51:11,240
Speaker 1: But um, you know again, it's it's just a trophy.

2089
01:51:11,439 --> 01:51:15,920
Speaker 1: It's not anything too. I mean, the jump she made

2090
01:51:16,160 --> 01:51:21,800
Speaker 1: that Brady was disrespecting her father's work was was pretty outrageous.

2091
01:51:22,040 --> 01:51:24,160
Speaker 1: I don't think Tom Brady was thinking about the maker

2092
01:51:24,360 --> 01:51:28,000
Speaker 1: of the trophy. Yeah. Last thing I got forty, Jimmy

2093
01:51:28,120 --> 01:51:32,160
Speaker 1: is after the regular season. Um, where we were, say,

2094
01:51:33,120 --> 01:51:37,960
Speaker 1: ten months ago, when the you know, the NHL was

2095
01:51:38,000 --> 01:51:40,280
Speaker 1: a mess, the NBA had suspended that they were in

2096
01:51:40,280 --> 01:51:43,200
Speaker 1: a bubble um, the NFL was trying to ramp up,

2097
01:51:43,240 --> 01:51:45,120
Speaker 1: and we all thought it was going to be catastrophic

2098
01:51:45,120 --> 01:51:48,040
Speaker 1: to have guys bumping into each other with Corona flying around.

2099
01:51:48,600 --> 01:51:50,960
Speaker 1: How great of an accomplishment was by the NFL to

2100
01:51:50,960 --> 01:51:53,200
Speaker 1: get two hundred and fifty six regular season games in

2101
01:51:54,080 --> 01:51:56,600
Speaker 1: albeit albeit you know, jumping through fiery hoops with the

2102
01:51:56,640 --> 01:51:58,400
Speaker 1: schedule and stuff to do it. But all the all

2103
01:51:58,439 --> 01:52:00,640
Speaker 1: the regular season games, all the playoff games carry the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. What kind of accomplishment is that in this landscape?

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Speaker 1: You know, it's funny. I literally just finished taping my

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Speaker 1: podcast an hour ago, and I said to the to

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Speaker 1: my guests that I think all sports, outside of college football,

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Speaker 1: which I thought was just a complete joke and just

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Speaker 1: a ridiculously fake season, I think all sports deserve a

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Speaker 1: lot of credit for being able to carry carry on

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Speaker 1: the way they did. You know, the NHL, the n A,

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Speaker 1: NBA with the bubble. Now they're back. Now they've having cancelations,

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Speaker 1: but the season's going on. They're doing their best. Baseball

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01:52:33,960 --> 01:52:37,679
Speaker 1: finished their season. The NFL. Listen, the NFL had a huge,

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01:52:38,280 --> 01:52:43,320
Speaker 1: huge advantage over all the other sports. The other sports NBA, MLB, NHL,

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01:52:43,400 --> 01:52:46,360
Speaker 1: they play every single night and there and teams have

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01:52:46,400 --> 01:52:49,000
Speaker 1: to make road trips two three times a week during

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01:52:49,040 --> 01:52:52,599
Speaker 1: the The NFL is once a week. You're in and out.

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Speaker 1: I mean, before the season, I had heard from people

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01:52:54,760 --> 01:52:57,800
Speaker 1: that there were scenarios where a team could get into

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01:52:57,840 --> 01:53:00,920
Speaker 1: a City on Sunday morning playing get Out. I don't

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01:53:00,960 --> 01:53:03,400
Speaker 1: know if that happened at all, but the NFL had

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01:53:03,400 --> 01:53:05,519
Speaker 1: a huge advantage and that they only need to get

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01:53:05,600 --> 01:53:08,040
Speaker 1: one game a week off for each team. There's in

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01:53:08,240 --> 01:53:11,559
Speaker 1: you know, baseball that play in every single day, NBA

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01:53:11,720 --> 01:53:14,640
Speaker 1: three or four times a week. So that's not to

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01:53:14,640 --> 01:53:16,920
Speaker 1: take anything away from me. In the NFL, they got

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01:53:16,960 --> 01:53:18,599
Speaker 1: their season. They didn't have to, you know, they had

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01:53:18,600 --> 01:53:20,679
Speaker 1: to move games around where you know, we had games

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01:53:20,680 --> 01:53:24,000
Speaker 1: on Friday, Wednesday, Tuesday, but they got it done. And

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01:53:24,240 --> 01:53:26,479
Speaker 1: the same thing with you know, the MLB and NBA,

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01:53:26,560 --> 01:53:28,599
Speaker 1: so in NHL. So I think they all deserve credit,

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Speaker 1: right all right, Jimmy, listen, we appreciate the time as always.

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01:53:32,800 --> 01:53:35,240
Speaker 1: Thanks for playing along with us, and good luck deciphering

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Speaker 1: the future. JJ Watt tweets I hope there's more coming.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. It's Jimmy Training from SI dot Com,

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01:53:42,160 --> 01:53:45,200
Speaker 1: also the host of the SI Media podcast, joining us

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01:53:45,200 --> 01:53:48,800
Speaker 1: here on the show. I am waiting with bated Bress

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01:53:48,840 --> 01:53:51,360
Speaker 1: to see what the next edition is from j. J Watt.

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01:53:52,080 --> 01:53:56,000
Speaker 1: I'm starting to wonder how fast it's gonna move, and

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01:53:56,240 --> 01:53:57,880
Speaker 1: you know when he's gonna sign Well, I think a

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01:53:57,880 --> 01:53:59,160
Speaker 1: lot of people thought it was going to be done

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01:53:59,160 --> 01:54:00,840
Speaker 1: by the end of last week, right, I think it

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01:54:00,840 --> 01:54:04,240
Speaker 1: didn't happen. Yeah, I think most teams are looking to

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01:54:04,280 --> 01:54:07,760
Speaker 1: see some get some clarity on the on the salary cap. Yes,

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01:54:08,160 --> 01:54:13,440
Speaker 1: and they've probably had everybody's had conversations with JJ's representation,

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01:54:14,240 --> 01:54:17,679
Speaker 1: and if anything moves forward, every one of those teams

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01:54:17,760 --> 01:54:21,320
Speaker 1: has to be called before his representation will make any

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01:54:21,400 --> 01:54:24,799
Speaker 1: kind of substantive move because all of those clubs said, hey, listen,

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01:54:25,760 --> 01:54:27,559
Speaker 1: we don't want to do anything right now because when

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01:54:27,600 --> 01:54:29,360
Speaker 1: we are interest but we're int we got to move

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01:54:29,360 --> 01:54:32,120
Speaker 1: someplete people around or whatever, depending on what you're asking for,

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01:54:32,400 --> 01:54:34,680
Speaker 1: what you are, what you're looking for, and what the

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01:54:34,720 --> 01:54:38,520
Speaker 1: market says we're interested, give us a call before anything happens.

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01:54:38,680 --> 01:54:41,560
Speaker 1: So they've got to do that, even if they do

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01:54:41,640 --> 01:54:45,080
Speaker 1: get a concrete offer from a club. So and that's

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01:54:45,360 --> 01:54:48,560
Speaker 1: you know, that'll be before anything else, before we hear anything.

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01:54:49,120 --> 01:54:52,080
Speaker 1: So all that's got to take place. And that information

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01:54:52,120 --> 01:54:59,760
Speaker 1: about the salary cap is iffy at best. So you know,

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01:55:00,080 --> 01:55:01,400
Speaker 1: they don't know what they're gonna be able to pay

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01:55:01,440 --> 01:55:03,800
Speaker 1: this guy. Yeah, I mean what they have to pay them.

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01:55:03,840 --> 01:55:05,800
Speaker 1: We're probably going to be at least a week into

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Speaker 1: March before that number even comes into focus. They're trying

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01:55:12,200 --> 01:55:16,000
Speaker 1: to get a hard number out to NFL clubs before

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Speaker 1: the window closes on the franchise tag window, which is

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01:55:18,800 --> 01:55:22,600
Speaker 1: March ninth. They're trying to get a hard and fast

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01:55:22,760 --> 01:55:25,320
Speaker 1: cap number for twenty twenty one out to teams before

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Speaker 1: then so they can make an educated decision, right. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they can budget eight ways to Sunday, but I think

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01:55:32,720 --> 01:55:35,600
Speaker 1: they'd much rather prefer to have the real, live, hard

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Speaker 1: and fast number so they know exactly what they're working with. Yeah,

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01:55:38,760 --> 01:55:41,000
Speaker 1: they got it. You gotta get I mean, I know

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01:55:41,120 --> 01:55:44,320
Speaker 1: we're talking. You gotta get within like a million bucks

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Speaker 1: of where that thing's actually gonna be. I Like, right

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01:55:46,400 --> 01:55:48,320
Speaker 1: now they think it's the top it's going to be.

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Speaker 1: Is the lower it's gonna be as eighty one hundred

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Speaker 1: and eighty million. The top I've heard is eighty five,

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Speaker 1: So it's somewhere in there. So you're getting you're getting

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Speaker 1: a little bit more focused, and they've got cap people

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01:55:59,360 --> 01:56:02,080
Speaker 1: that can put together a budget for one eight one

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Speaker 1: eighty two, one three one five. You're probably running those

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01:56:05,160 --> 01:56:08,360
Speaker 1: numbers right now, and right now I would think that

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01:56:08,640 --> 01:56:12,560
Speaker 1: JJ's people have gotten a ballpark figure and tested the

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01:56:12,600 --> 01:56:15,320
Speaker 1: water about what they're looking at. Nobody's gonna pay him

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01:56:15,360 --> 01:56:20,920
Speaker 1: seventeen million bucks, no, but but get somebody. Yeah, he

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01:56:20,960 --> 01:56:23,600
Speaker 1: wants whatever the best number is. He at least he

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01:56:23,600 --> 01:56:25,280
Speaker 1: wants to know it. Now he can always say, you

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01:56:25,320 --> 01:56:28,920
Speaker 1: know what, I'd rather play for ten million for the

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01:56:28,960 --> 01:56:34,560
Speaker 1: Packers than thirteen million for the Jets. Yeah, that kind

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01:56:34,560 --> 01:56:37,880
Speaker 1: of thing, right, yes, so or for the whatever you

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01:56:37,960 --> 01:56:41,080
Speaker 1: pick your teams. Yeah, but he can he'll have that

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01:56:41,160 --> 01:56:44,680
Speaker 1: kind of He has all the discretion to make that call.

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01:56:44,800 --> 01:56:48,320
Speaker 1: So we have to find out what's really really important

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01:56:48,360 --> 01:56:52,360
Speaker 1: to him. Yeah, and then you know where the when

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01:56:52,880 --> 01:56:55,840
Speaker 1: when this starts to move, it's going to move fast though.

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01:56:55,960 --> 01:56:58,920
Speaker 1: The phones will be ringing and then bang, it's just

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01:56:58,920 --> 01:57:00,480
Speaker 1: gonna be then want to get a yes or no

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01:57:00,640 --> 01:57:02,640
Speaker 1: so they can move on. Don't sign the rest of

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Speaker 1: their squad, because I think, as you said, I think

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01:57:05,160 --> 01:57:08,720
Speaker 1: the agents already have a pretty good working model on

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Speaker 1: the what the parameters are in terms of what JJ

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01:57:11,560 --> 01:57:14,040
Speaker 1: would be happy with. So as soon as somebody comes

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01:57:14,080 --> 01:57:17,040
Speaker 1: to the table with that, they'll say that sounds good

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01:57:17,040 --> 01:57:18,840
Speaker 1: to us. Now they might make a couple other phone

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01:57:18,840 --> 01:57:20,680
Speaker 1: calls saying, hey can you beat this? Hey, can you

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01:57:20,680 --> 01:57:23,080
Speaker 1: beat that? You know he's probably got a top three

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01:57:23,200 --> 01:57:25,080
Speaker 1: a list of top three teams that he'd be interested

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01:57:25,120 --> 01:57:27,480
Speaker 1: in going to. First one gives him the number they're

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Speaker 1: looking for. Now they call the other two to see

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01:57:29,120 --> 01:57:30,680
Speaker 1: if they can do better. No, they can't. Okay, we're

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01:57:30,680 --> 01:57:33,720
Speaker 1: over here. That's obvious because they say, listen, if if

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01:57:33,760 --> 01:57:37,040
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh can get within two million bucks, are the best offer.

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01:57:37,080 --> 01:57:40,000
Speaker 1: I'm going to Pittsburgh, Yeah, to play with my brothers.

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01:57:40,200 --> 01:57:43,480
Speaker 1: If the Packers can get within three million dollars or

2215
01:57:44,000 --> 01:57:48,040
Speaker 1: five hundred grand of this number, I'm going there, right.

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01:57:48,480 --> 01:57:51,160
Speaker 1: So it's all of that, all right, break time for us.

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Speaker 1: When Steve and I come back, we'll wrap up things

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01:57:53,440 --> 01:57:55,920
Speaker 1: on the tweet sheet and maybe have a little time

2219
01:57:56,040 --> 01:57:59,480
Speaker 1: for some NFL true false. We'll get to that when

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Speaker 1: we return here on One Bills Live presented by Kalata Health,

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Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to One Bills five,

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Speaker 1: first Round Seat chapter, final half hour of a Wednesday

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Speaker 1: edition of the show, broadcasting from the Seneca Studios here

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01:58:22,320 --> 01:58:27,000
Speaker 1: in Orchard Park. And we wanted to wrap up the

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01:58:27,080 --> 01:58:29,560
Speaker 1: tweet sheet, which we will do right now in terms

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01:58:29,560 --> 01:58:32,960
Speaker 1: of a scale of one to ten. How concerned are

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01:58:33,000 --> 01:58:35,680
Speaker 1: you with the AFC East improving this offseason, knowing the

2228
01:58:35,680 --> 01:58:39,960
Speaker 1: other three teams in the division have far greater resources

2229
01:58:40,080 --> 01:58:43,280
Speaker 1: cap room, draft capital, etc. To improve their rosters and

2230
01:58:43,320 --> 01:58:45,960
Speaker 1: try to close the gap between them and the defending

2231
01:58:46,000 --> 01:58:49,760
Speaker 1: AFC's champion Bills. Jeremy says, I'm a solid five. The

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01:58:49,880 --> 01:58:52,920
Speaker 1: Jets are a dumpster fired. No matter how good Miami seems,

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01:58:52,960 --> 01:58:54,600
Speaker 1: we seem to own them, and I'm not sold on

2234
01:58:54,640 --> 01:58:57,080
Speaker 1: the Patriots getting much better. I don't see us going

2235
01:58:57,120 --> 01:58:59,280
Speaker 1: six and own the division again, but definitely four and

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01:58:59,320 --> 01:59:01,800
Speaker 1: two at the least. I still feel we will win

2237
01:59:01,880 --> 01:59:07,600
Speaker 1: back to back division titles again. So the confidence is there,

2238
01:59:07,680 --> 01:59:12,560
Speaker 1: Steve to a great reason degree, and he's right, it's

2239
01:59:12,600 --> 01:59:16,440
Speaker 1: hard to envision sweeping the division the second year in

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Speaker 1: a row. With the improvement that, you gotta think Miami's

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01:59:20,680 --> 01:59:23,640
Speaker 1: gonna be a little better at least, if not significantly better.

2242
01:59:23,640 --> 01:59:26,360
Speaker 1: And certainly Patriots are going to be better depending on

2243
01:59:26,480 --> 01:59:31,200
Speaker 1: how they work their quarterback. They don't overspend and they

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01:59:31,240 --> 01:59:34,040
Speaker 1: get good value for what they do spend. They were

2245
01:59:34,280 --> 01:59:36,600
Speaker 1: hamstrung last year and their ability to put together a

2246
01:59:36,600 --> 01:59:39,800
Speaker 1: good roster this year. That's not the case. So you

2247
01:59:39,840 --> 01:59:41,520
Speaker 1: figure they're gonna be able to put it together now.

2248
01:59:42,240 --> 01:59:44,520
Speaker 1: We you know, Mike reason we just had at earlier

2249
01:59:44,520 --> 01:59:47,960
Speaker 1: in the show, this is you know how quickly it

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01:59:48,080 --> 01:59:51,280
Speaker 1: turned in New England one bad year and people are

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01:59:51,280 --> 01:59:53,240
Speaker 1: like going, I don't know if Bill can do it. Yeah,

2252
01:59:53,280 --> 01:59:57,520
Speaker 1: I'm like Belichick, I don't know what he's thinking. He's drunk.

2253
01:59:57,640 --> 01:59:59,600
Speaker 1: He might not be head coaching. Man. I'll say this,

2254
02:00:00,400 --> 02:00:02,480
Speaker 1: I might have told this story a long time. I did.

2255
02:00:02,760 --> 02:00:04,920
Speaker 1: I was on the sidelines for CBS at a New

2256
02:00:04,920 --> 02:00:07,960
Speaker 1: England game New England Miami two years, three years ago,

2257
02:00:09,440 --> 02:00:11,840
Speaker 1: and Miami gives them a tussle in the first half.

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02:00:14,120 --> 02:00:16,600
Speaker 1: You know, they intercept Brady the whole nine yards, got

2259
02:00:16,600 --> 02:00:18,440
Speaker 1: a little bit of a lead for a minute, and

2260
02:00:18,480 --> 02:00:20,320
Speaker 1: they're looking like they're gonna go in a halftime with

2261
02:00:20,360 --> 02:00:23,480
Speaker 1: the lead. All of that right, And I'm looking around

2262
02:00:23,520 --> 02:00:26,280
Speaker 1: at that stadium at the fans, and it's sell out

2263
02:00:26,440 --> 02:00:31,800
Speaker 1: as it should be. There is no angst at all

2264
02:00:31,840 --> 02:00:34,440
Speaker 1: in that stadium. They are they couldn't. They just have

2265
02:00:34,720 --> 02:00:38,240
Speaker 1: no fear at all. Hey, Paula, get me another Beer. Well, yeah,

2266
02:00:38,280 --> 02:00:42,240
Speaker 1: they knew that Miami had no chance to beat their squad,

2267
02:00:42,840 --> 02:00:46,000
Speaker 1: and certainly, and the Patriots lumped them up in the

2268
02:00:46,000 --> 02:00:48,760
Speaker 1: second half and won by double digits going away. But

2269
02:00:48,960 --> 02:00:50,560
Speaker 1: early on in that game, I was like, Wow, this

2270
02:00:50,640 --> 02:00:53,960
Speaker 1: is gonna be a dog fight, and the fans in

2271
02:00:54,000 --> 02:01:01,240
Speaker 1: that stadium had no concern, zero concern. So now that

2272
02:01:01,320 --> 02:01:05,400
Speaker 1: it's gone the other direction, I am shocked at how

2273
02:01:06,360 --> 02:01:11,640
Speaker 1: little faith they have in two decades of unbridled success.

2274
02:01:11,680 --> 02:01:14,480
Speaker 1: I think you can certainly understand it because when you

2275
02:01:14,520 --> 02:01:16,880
Speaker 1: ask the question who is New England's quarterback? There is

2276
02:01:16,920 --> 02:01:21,080
Speaker 1: no answer right now. There's there's no anticipation that Cam

2277
02:01:21,160 --> 02:01:25,800
Speaker 1: Newton's coming back, there's no anticipation that Jared's Stidham is

2278
02:01:25,800 --> 02:01:30,960
Speaker 1: the answer. So when Patriots fans are asked, hey, who's

2279
02:01:30,960 --> 02:01:33,240
Speaker 1: your quarterback next year and you don't have an answer,

2280
02:01:34,160 --> 02:01:36,120
Speaker 1: it's hard to be confident. I get it. Well, it's

2281
02:01:36,120 --> 02:01:38,960
Speaker 1: particularly when you look at Buffalo and they got this guy,

2282
02:01:39,120 --> 02:01:42,480
Speaker 1: you know, the Adonis right right, and you know even

2283
02:01:42,560 --> 02:01:46,480
Speaker 1: Miami with Sam Darnold. I mean there's a I've always

2284
02:01:46,520 --> 02:01:48,520
Speaker 1: thought Sam was a pretty good quarterback. I like him,

2285
02:01:48,520 --> 02:01:50,680
Speaker 1: and I think he's got his potential. He's and like,

2286
02:01:50,680 --> 02:01:54,360
Speaker 1: like you know, Jeremy said, the Jets or dumpster fire

2287
02:01:54,400 --> 02:01:57,840
Speaker 1: around that guy, right and he might not even be there,

2288
02:01:57,880 --> 02:02:00,640
Speaker 1: and yeah, and they're gonna you're gonna throw him to

2289
02:02:00,680 --> 02:02:06,000
Speaker 1: the curb. That's yeah, well whatever, So I'm you know,

2290
02:02:06,040 --> 02:02:09,320
Speaker 1: I you look around, It's it's easy to see why

2291
02:02:09,480 --> 02:02:11,800
Speaker 1: the Patriot fans are like, we don't have a quarterback,

2292
02:02:11,840 --> 02:02:14,640
Speaker 1: what are we gonna do? But there's options out there

2293
02:02:14,680 --> 02:02:17,919
Speaker 1: and they're gonna they're gonna take advantage of one. Yeah.

2294
02:02:18,280 --> 02:02:21,560
Speaker 1: Cb Rosen on the tweet sheet says, I would say

2295
02:02:21,560 --> 02:02:24,839
Speaker 1: my concerning levels around a seven Dolphins could be a problem,

2296
02:02:24,960 --> 02:02:28,560
Speaker 1: especially if DeShawn Watson goes there. That's been a common

2297
02:02:28,600 --> 02:02:33,840
Speaker 1: refrain that we've heard today. So yeah, I'll say this,

2298
02:02:36,160 --> 02:02:41,120
Speaker 1: Houston doesn't want to trade him. And if they, if

2299
02:02:41,160 --> 02:02:43,560
Speaker 1: they're that adamant about it and smart enough to know

2300
02:02:43,960 --> 02:02:46,120
Speaker 1: that they don't want to trade that guy, but then

2301
02:02:46,280 --> 02:02:49,400
Speaker 1: he forces their hand into trading him, they are not

2302
02:02:49,520 --> 02:02:52,520
Speaker 1: going to trade him to an AFC team, in my opinion,

2303
02:02:52,960 --> 02:02:55,320
Speaker 1: certainly not going to trade him to an AFC South team. Yeah,

2304
02:02:55,360 --> 02:02:57,560
Speaker 1: I would say more so, they're gonna trade him to

2305
02:02:57,600 --> 02:03:00,640
Speaker 1: an NFC club so they can get out of their hair.

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02:03:00,960 --> 02:03:06,200
Speaker 1: Gonna do some rapid fire Twitter responses here, okay um

2307
02:03:07,720 --> 02:03:11,640
Speaker 1: Paul Paul on the on Twitter says seven point five.

2308
02:03:12,520 --> 02:03:16,000
Speaker 1: Martin says zero, not a nil. Zilch bills by a

2309
02:03:16,040 --> 02:03:20,000
Speaker 1: billion every game all year, playing the parade, very next,

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02:03:20,200 --> 02:03:24,800
Speaker 1: very next response ten. You always need to be concerned

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Speaker 1: about your competition. You can only control what you do,

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Speaker 1: but you better know what you're up against. It's a

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Speaker 1: lot of wisdom in that. There is some wisdom in there.

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Speaker 1: That was a good a good Twitter response by Dave.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean it's it's interesting, which is why

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Speaker 1: when you came up with the scale of one to

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02:03:42,240 --> 02:03:44,840
Speaker 1: ten when we were putting this Twitter poll together, I

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Speaker 1: was like, ooh, that's juicy because I was pretty confident

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Speaker 1: that the numbers were going to be all up and

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Speaker 1: down the scale, and they have been today. We've seen zero.

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Speaker 1: We've seen that's zero in ten in back to back tweets.

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02:03:56,400 --> 02:03:58,200
Speaker 1: I know. I mean, it doesn't get And then the

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Speaker 1: other guy was seven to five all and the pleas

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Speaker 1: The thing about it is too you're right here, They're right.

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Speaker 1: You worry more about the dolphins and can do the Jets.

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02:04:08,440 --> 02:04:11,720
Speaker 1: You don't forget in the second year of Sean McDermot,

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02:04:11,800 --> 02:04:14,040
Speaker 1: after they got rid of Marcel Darius. However, they got

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Speaker 1: rid of um Sammy Watkins. They got all that and

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02:04:17,320 --> 02:04:19,480
Speaker 1: they got those contracts off the book. They come back

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Speaker 1: the next year. Don't forget, and they're coming into the

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Speaker 1: two thousand is a two eighteen draft with Josh Allen,

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02:04:26,400 --> 02:04:31,280
Speaker 1: Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield, Josh Rosen, and Lamar Jackson. They

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Speaker 1: got all those guys that are coming into this draft,

2334
02:04:34,280 --> 02:04:37,920
Speaker 1: and the Jets and the Bills are sitting almost in

2335
02:04:38,160 --> 02:04:45,240
Speaker 1: identical spots. Yeah, going forward, and the Jets pick first,

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02:04:47,720 --> 02:04:50,280
Speaker 1: and look at what has happened to them in the

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02:04:50,360 --> 02:04:56,120
Speaker 1: both teams in the in the subsequent years. It's yeah,

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02:04:56,160 --> 02:05:01,200
Speaker 1: it's different that it's a different sounding, it's as different.

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02:05:01,200 --> 02:05:04,640
Speaker 1: It's as different as you can possibly get. And there was,

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02:05:04,760 --> 02:05:10,000
Speaker 1: and there was, and there was not nobody. Most people

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02:05:10,080 --> 02:05:12,600
Speaker 1: thought the Jets got the better guy. Sam was gonna

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02:05:12,640 --> 02:05:17,080
Speaker 1: be better than Josh Allen. He had, He's more polished,

2343
02:05:18,000 --> 02:05:21,760
Speaker 1: came from a bigger program. He had one issue and

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02:05:21,760 --> 02:05:23,200
Speaker 1: that was a he turned over a little too much

2345
02:05:23,200 --> 02:05:26,280
Speaker 1: as a collegian security in the pocket. But you're gonna

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02:05:26,280 --> 02:05:27,720
Speaker 1: you're gonna get rid of that. You're gonna do that

2347
02:05:27,760 --> 02:05:32,840
Speaker 1: with discipline and some people you know, no player development

2348
02:05:32,840 --> 02:05:36,160
Speaker 1: though we don't know squat. You can't tell any you

2349
02:05:36,200 --> 02:05:38,520
Speaker 1: can't tell about these guys. And you get fair and

2350
02:05:38,640 --> 02:05:43,280
Speaker 1: there is you get where the guy gets drafted, gets

2351
02:05:43,400 --> 02:05:46,560
Speaker 1: far too little consideration when you evaluate how good a

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02:05:46,600 --> 02:05:50,480
Speaker 1: pro they're gonna be. Yeah, Um, time now for a

2353
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Speaker 1: little NFL true false, brought to you by Yancy's Fancy

2354
02:05:55,360 --> 02:05:59,600
Speaker 1: New York's Artists and Cheese, and we begin here. Steve.

2355
02:06:00,920 --> 02:06:04,480
Speaker 1: We've seen all of the buzz about Russell Wilson's comments

2356
02:06:04,560 --> 02:06:06,960
Speaker 1: on the Dan Patrick Show and how he's tired of

2357
02:06:07,000 --> 02:06:10,040
Speaker 1: getting hit too much, and this and that. Oh Russell's unhappy.

2358
02:06:10,120 --> 02:06:15,160
Speaker 1: Oh Russell's gonna get traded. And now Mike Silver from

2359
02:06:15,240 --> 02:06:17,920
Speaker 1: NFL Network was saying, well, if they do trade him,

2360
02:06:17,960 --> 02:06:22,600
Speaker 1: it's gonna start with three first round picks. So three

2361
02:06:22,680 --> 02:06:26,840
Speaker 1: first round picks for Russell Wilson, fair deal true or

2362
02:06:26,920 --> 02:06:29,960
Speaker 1: false false. He's thirty years old, it's thirty one, thirty

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02:06:29,960 --> 02:06:32,560
Speaker 1: one years old. If he's twenty five, you got a

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02:06:32,560 --> 02:06:35,160
Speaker 1: shot at that's a king's ransom. Yeah, you can't give

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02:06:35,240 --> 02:06:37,520
Speaker 1: up three ones. I mean, I know he's good, but

2366
02:06:37,720 --> 02:06:41,440
Speaker 1: very good. What about two? Would you do? Two? Two

2367
02:06:41,520 --> 02:06:44,600
Speaker 1: ones for Russell Wilson? I think I could be convinced

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02:06:44,640 --> 02:06:47,120
Speaker 1: to that. He's probably gonna play six seven more years.

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02:06:48,720 --> 02:06:51,760
Speaker 1: We'll say, get five solid years out of him. Two

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02:06:51,800 --> 02:06:55,400
Speaker 1: ones maybe, I think I think I could come around

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02:06:55,440 --> 02:06:58,640
Speaker 1: to that. But three ones is no. That is false.

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02:06:59,520 --> 02:07:02,120
Speaker 1: That is not if it's a non starter for me. Yeah,

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02:07:02,160 --> 02:07:06,200
Speaker 1: it's a no for me. Dog okay? NFL true false

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02:07:06,280 --> 02:07:09,080
Speaker 1: Number two surprise surprise. It also deals with a quarterback.

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02:07:09,120 --> 02:07:13,400
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz is a warning shot to NFL teams about

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02:07:13,480 --> 02:07:18,120
Speaker 1: drafting a first round quarterback. True or false? That's false,

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02:07:18,800 --> 02:07:22,240
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz, what do you think about? Isn't Ryan Leaf

2378
02:07:22,240 --> 02:07:24,560
Speaker 1: even a bigger shot? I mean, come on, you're gonna

2379
02:07:24,640 --> 02:07:27,400
Speaker 1: you gotta draft him first round, Jeff George, I mean,

2380
02:07:27,480 --> 02:07:30,160
Speaker 1: run down the list. There's no place else to get him, right,

2381
02:07:30,480 --> 02:07:33,680
Speaker 1: And and that's the reason, Like, there is no quarterback

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02:07:34,640 --> 02:07:38,040
Speaker 1: flame out in the history of this league that is

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02:07:38,080 --> 02:07:43,320
Speaker 1: going to stop teams from drafting quarterbacks in the first round. Yeah,

2384
02:07:43,360 --> 02:07:46,440
Speaker 1: So it is unequivocally false. And Carson Wentz isn't even

2385
02:07:46,480 --> 02:07:48,800
Speaker 1: the worst of the bunch. He's not even the biggest

2386
02:07:49,080 --> 02:07:52,280
Speaker 1: cautionary he's got And that guy gave you. That guy's

2387
02:07:52,320 --> 02:07:55,680
Speaker 1: got talent. Yeah, you know, and you know he could

2388
02:07:55,720 --> 02:07:57,760
Speaker 1: be a reclamation project this year. We'll have to wait

2389
02:07:57,800 --> 02:08:00,520
Speaker 1: and see him. It's Kennaby. He's gonna be absolutely played better.

2390
02:08:00,720 --> 02:08:03,040
Speaker 1: He's gonna be fine, He's gonna be a good player.

2391
02:08:03,040 --> 02:08:04,920
Speaker 1: And the Colts are going to be a pain in

2392
02:08:04,960 --> 02:08:09,760
Speaker 1: the hookie. Yeah. Yeah, their kids they're good. They were there,

2393
02:08:09,760 --> 02:08:14,400
Speaker 1: Franks got them well coached, They're very talented, they're uh,

2394
02:08:15,320 --> 02:08:18,040
Speaker 1: you know, they're they're getting better. They're at they're cap

2395
02:08:18,080 --> 02:08:20,160
Speaker 1: strong all the time. Every year it seems as though

2396
02:08:20,160 --> 02:08:22,240
Speaker 1: they've got a lot of cap room. They've got great

2397
02:08:22,520 --> 02:08:26,440
Speaker 1: draft picks to deal with, and now they've got Carson Wentz, who,

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02:08:26,600 --> 02:08:33,000
Speaker 1: for me, um is a great move by them. And

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02:08:33,160 --> 02:08:36,600
Speaker 1: you know, whether you think the Eagles missed or hit

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02:08:36,720 --> 02:08:39,640
Speaker 1: on Carson Wentz with their pick of him, they traded

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02:08:39,720 --> 02:08:43,400
Speaker 1: up to the number two picked to get him, um,

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02:08:43,520 --> 02:08:47,839
Speaker 1: I don't think has any impact on what the future

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02:08:47,920 --> 02:08:51,480
Speaker 1: drafting of habits of this league are going to be. Yeah,

2404
02:08:52,080 --> 02:08:57,000
Speaker 1: the facts are these there are the quarterback is the

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02:08:57,040 --> 02:09:00,760
Speaker 1: most missed position in the first round than any other

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02:09:00,800 --> 02:09:04,040
Speaker 1: position in draft history. You want to know why, because

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02:09:04,040 --> 02:09:07,240
Speaker 1: that's what he was taken, because more people take quarterbacks

2408
02:09:07,240 --> 02:09:09,800
Speaker 1: in the first round than any other position. Yeah, but

2409
02:09:09,880 --> 02:09:13,240
Speaker 1: you're gonna miss. There's a hitting miss rate there that's

2410
02:09:13,280 --> 02:09:15,640
Speaker 1: always going to exist. I'll say this about the question,

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02:09:15,680 --> 02:09:18,120
Speaker 1: the true false question we're talking about, as Carson Wentz

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02:09:18,200 --> 02:09:22,720
Speaker 1: is a is a just a warning shot. It is

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02:09:22,720 --> 02:09:25,680
Speaker 1: a warning shot about teams extending a guy before they

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02:09:25,680 --> 02:09:30,040
Speaker 1: really know fair. That's the warning. Get the contract right,

2415
02:09:30,200 --> 02:09:32,440
Speaker 1: even if you sign him up to an extension and

2416
02:09:32,240 --> 02:09:35,800
Speaker 1: your guy going forward, he's your franchise guy. Set the

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02:09:35,880 --> 02:09:39,640
Speaker 1: contract up so that you can pull the rip chord

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02:09:39,720 --> 02:09:43,120
Speaker 1: without having a thirty four million dollar cap hit to

2419
02:09:43,120 --> 02:09:44,640
Speaker 1: get rid of him. And you got to get rid

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02:09:44,680 --> 02:09:49,400
Speaker 1: of him. And another thing is, don't alienate him by

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02:09:49,480 --> 02:09:52,440
Speaker 1: drafting his replacement the year after you do that. Yeah,

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02:09:52,560 --> 02:09:55,120
Speaker 1: you idiots. I think it was less. It was less

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02:09:55,120 --> 02:09:57,640
Speaker 1: about a deterioration of his play and more about the

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02:09:57,720 --> 02:10:00,360
Speaker 1: means by which you try to fortify the co back

2425
02:10:00,440 --> 02:10:03,280
Speaker 1: position by drafting another one in round two without letting

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02:10:03,320 --> 02:10:05,760
Speaker 1: the guy that who is your franchise quarterback know about it.

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02:10:06,040 --> 02:10:08,240
Speaker 1: He was blindsided by that and was never the same.

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02:10:09,360 --> 02:10:12,120
Speaker 1: So it's more about your operation, I think, than the

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02:10:12,160 --> 02:10:15,080
Speaker 1: talent that you have. Last one real quick thirty seconds

2430
02:10:15,080 --> 02:10:17,720
Speaker 1: Steve forty nine. Ers are are the best candidate to

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02:10:17,760 --> 02:10:21,280
Speaker 1: go from worse to first in twenty twenty one. I

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02:10:21,320 --> 02:10:26,120
Speaker 1: would say true, because of their rosters is loaded, even

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02:10:26,160 --> 02:10:29,200
Speaker 1: with or without Garoppolo. If they trade him in for

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02:10:29,520 --> 02:10:32,000
Speaker 1: a guy that's commensurate with that or whatever, I think

2435
02:10:32,000 --> 02:10:34,040
Speaker 1: they're they're the guy. Because their injuries are what kept

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02:10:34,080 --> 02:10:35,760
Speaker 1: them from being the team that we thought they would

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02:10:35,760 --> 02:10:39,560
Speaker 1: be this year, So you'd think that they're not going

2438
02:10:39,640 --> 02:10:42,080
Speaker 1: to get snake bitten by that, and you can't predict

2439
02:10:42,080 --> 02:10:44,280
Speaker 1: it anyway. So if they stay healthy, absolutely there finn.

2440
02:10:44,320 --> 02:10:46,280
Speaker 1: I mean you think about the other basement teams trying

2441
02:10:46,280 --> 02:10:47,920
Speaker 1: to go from the bottom to the top. Jets are

2442
02:10:47,960 --> 02:10:52,240
Speaker 1: not doing that, Jacksonville is not doing that, Houston's not

2443
02:10:52,360 --> 02:10:54,800
Speaker 1: doing that. I mean, you can run down the list.

2444
02:10:54,840 --> 02:10:57,360
Speaker 1: There's just too many teams that are not going to

2445
02:10:57,440 --> 02:11:00,760
Speaker 1: turn it around the way that San Francisco ken, knowing

2446
02:11:00,800 --> 02:11:03,960
Speaker 1: they're just two years removed from being NFC champs. So yes,

2447
02:11:04,040 --> 02:11:06,760
Speaker 1: I would say true as well. That is NFL True

2448
02:11:06,760 --> 02:11:09,840
Speaker 1: Falls brought to you by Yancy's Fancy. We'll close it

2449
02:11:09,920 --> 02:11:12,080
Speaker 1: up with what have we learned? Next? Here on One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Life presented by Kalid to Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: What have we learned from today's show? Brought to you

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Speaker 1: by Skyworks, the official construction equipment rental company of the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. Had ESPN NFL Nation Patriots Beat reporter Mike

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02:11:38,800 --> 02:11:41,600
Speaker 1: Greece on with us earlier in the program and we

2455
02:11:41,640 --> 02:11:45,200
Speaker 1: asked him about the quarterback vacancy how the Patriots intend

2456
02:11:45,240 --> 02:11:47,440
Speaker 1: to fill it. He thinks that they will add both

2457
02:11:47,440 --> 02:11:53,160
Speaker 1: a veteran and a young quarterback, and explained why someone

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02:11:53,240 --> 02:11:55,840
Speaker 1: like Mariota would make sense to me because you might

2459
02:11:55,880 --> 02:11:58,839
Speaker 1: acquire him, and you might be acquiring him not necessarily

2460
02:11:58,920 --> 02:12:02,240
Speaker 1: thinking he's your long term answer, but at least an option,

2461
02:12:02,480 --> 02:12:05,120
Speaker 1: you know, to pair with a rookie and hit also

2462
02:12:05,880 --> 02:12:08,400
Speaker 1: keep that salary cap space fluid for you to fill

2463
02:12:08,680 --> 02:12:10,680
Speaker 1: a lot of your other needs. I mean, Steve, you

2464
02:12:10,720 --> 02:12:14,360
Speaker 1: mentioned like they got a lot of needs too, like receiver,

2465
02:12:14,720 --> 02:12:18,360
Speaker 1: tight end, front seven on defense. We really saw the discrepancy,

2466
02:12:18,400 --> 02:12:21,080
Speaker 1: didn't we? In Week sixteen when the Bills came in

2467
02:12:21,440 --> 02:12:24,160
Speaker 1: and they it wasn't just like the Bills were a

2468
02:12:24,200 --> 02:12:27,440
Speaker 1: better team like it was they were a better team,

2469
02:12:27,520 --> 02:12:29,600
Speaker 1: like they ran them right off the field in the

2470
02:12:29,640 --> 02:12:33,440
Speaker 1: second half, you know, So I think that's that's that's

2471
02:12:33,440 --> 02:12:36,760
Speaker 1: why I would say a veteran paired with a youngster

2472
02:12:36,840 --> 02:12:40,160
Speaker 1: would make a lot of sense. So they're probably gonna

2473
02:12:40,240 --> 02:12:43,120
Speaker 1: draft one Steve. The question is where, Yeah, and it

2474
02:12:43,680 --> 02:12:46,440
Speaker 1: it also comes to me it comes out who's available,

2475
02:12:46,400 --> 02:12:48,200
Speaker 1: who they're gonna get. They're gonna try and get the

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02:12:48,240 --> 02:12:51,320
Speaker 1: best guy they can and if they feel like they

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02:12:51,320 --> 02:12:53,760
Speaker 1: can get a value with a guy like Marcus Mariota

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02:12:53,760 --> 02:12:55,920
Speaker 1: who's making ten million bucks. If you can get pay

2479
02:12:55,960 --> 02:12:58,080
Speaker 1: your starting quarterback ten million and go out and win

2480
02:12:58,120 --> 02:13:02,200
Speaker 1: double digit games, you're way ahead of the game. If

2481
02:13:02,200 --> 02:13:04,320
Speaker 1: they want to draft a guy and get a look

2482
02:13:04,360 --> 02:13:07,520
Speaker 1: at him, it'll depend on how high they want to

2483
02:13:07,600 --> 02:13:09,600
Speaker 1: jump to get him. Now he's you know, this guy

2484
02:13:09,640 --> 02:13:13,280
Speaker 1: Mac Jones from Alabama is one of the one of

2485
02:13:13,320 --> 02:13:15,040
Speaker 1: the players that they've been linked to because they don't

2486
02:13:15,040 --> 02:13:16,400
Speaker 1: think any of these other guys are gonna be there.

2487
02:13:16,400 --> 02:13:19,720
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence of course, not Zachis Wilson, Trey Lance of

2488
02:13:19,800 --> 02:13:22,960
Speaker 1: North Dakota State, justin fields of Ohio State. Then you're

2489
02:13:22,960 --> 02:13:26,040
Speaker 1: getting into like Mac Jones, Kyle Trash kind of areas well.

2490
02:13:26,160 --> 02:13:29,160
Speaker 1: Maybe he will be there at fifteen for the Patriots.

2491
02:13:29,240 --> 02:13:32,400
Speaker 1: Could be somebody wasn't convinced that was the case, but

2492
02:13:32,440 --> 02:13:36,080
Speaker 1: there are some that do mock him late in round one. Obviously,

2493
02:13:36,120 --> 02:13:39,000
Speaker 1: the Pro Day workouts which will be starting in Earnest

2494
02:13:39,040 --> 02:13:43,080
Speaker 1: here next month, will kind of shape the draft and

2495
02:13:43,200 --> 02:13:45,000
Speaker 1: maybe move some people up or down that And you

2496
02:13:45,040 --> 02:13:46,880
Speaker 1: know what, it doesn't matter what we think about it

2497
02:13:47,120 --> 02:13:49,880
Speaker 1: might be somebody on that list is way down the

2498
02:13:49,880 --> 02:13:51,920
Speaker 1: bottom of the Patriots like better that you never know

2499
02:13:51,960 --> 02:13:55,720
Speaker 1: what they're thinking. Hall of Fame head coach Tony Dungee

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02:13:55,800 --> 02:13:58,840
Speaker 1: among those who will appear on our show tomorrow. So

2501
02:13:58,960 --> 02:14:01,480
Speaker 1: join Steve and I on a Thursday edition of One

2502
02:14:01,520 --> 02:14:04,160
Speaker 1: Bills Live. We'll see at noon tomorrow. Have a good

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Speaker 1: day of everybody,