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Speaker 1: The One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: All right, we are underway here on a Thursday, Chris Brown,

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Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you. Free agency continues as the league

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Speaker 2: year is underway and rocking and rolling and.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't feel like New Year's but it.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't, especially in March. But as far as the league

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Speaker 2: year is concerned, it is New Year's as the twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four league year is now officially under almost twenty

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Speaker 2: four hours old at this point. Go here in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four, and there is news afoot concerning the Bills

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Speaker 2: for the fourth straight day, Steve. I mean, it's not

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Speaker 2: like major headlines.

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Speaker 1: We're not the front page like, we're front page below

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Speaker 1: the fold below. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Maybe even for those of guys a certain.

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Speaker 1: Vintage You understand what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 2: Yes, newspaper references, Yes, coming in for anyone under twenty five. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Reports today are that the Bills are going to re

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Speaker 2: sign running back Ty Johnson. Johnson, who joined the team

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Speaker 2: last season, provided some juice to the position behind James Cook,

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Speaker 2: offers power and speed and by season's end, let's not

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Speaker 2: forget this, by season's end, he had supplanted Latavius Murray

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Speaker 2: is the number two back on the roster behind Cook.

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Speaker 1: Let me just say this for those of you wondering

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Speaker 1: the reason we're starting with Ty Johnson, a backup running back,

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Speaker 1: and they three of free agencies, because Brownie has been

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Speaker 1: whiteboarding this guy. I don't waterboard waterboarding, just white boarding,

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Speaker 1: like writing his name on our whiteboard. Right, And we

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Speaker 1: listed all the free agents listed all all right, let

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Speaker 1: we listed all the free agents for the band. We

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Speaker 1: designated each of those free agents in a certain category.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get into all that now, but let's

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Speaker 1: just say this, Brownie is like batting almost a thousand,

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Speaker 1: almost a thousand in what he thought the Bills would

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Speaker 1: do with each guy on that on that Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: it's uncanny. So Brownie, this is a I'm just calling

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Speaker 1: him out on him. This is an absolute flex by

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Speaker 1: Brownie talking about Ty Johnson because he he was going

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Speaker 1: to sign the guy back. And that's that's all there

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Speaker 1: is to it. Well, I know we both liked him.

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Speaker 1: I mean I loved what I saw out him. There's

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Speaker 1: no way you can't think the Bills are better with

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Speaker 1: him than without him. He's just played too well for him,

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Speaker 1: too well for him right, No, I mean he's got

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Speaker 1: some juice, he's got some energy. He looks like what

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Speaker 2: Guys, I'm trying to remember who do he have the

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Speaker 2: touchdown against? Here in the home game? Down the down

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Speaker 2: the nearest. That was the Jets game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 2: That's just supposed to be like a little dump down

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Speaker 2: pass to the flat. Yeah, he he takes it down

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Speaker 2: the sideline for a touchdown. I mean that's when you

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Speaker 2: I mean, that was all the convincing that any of

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Speaker 2: anyone who wasn't convinced. That's all the convincing you needed

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Speaker 2: as to the kind of player he is. And I know,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if people realize this. He goes about

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Speaker 2: two fifteen two hundred and eighteen pounds. I mean, he's

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Speaker 2: got some got some some beef behind the past, got.

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Speaker 1: Some momentum with him. Yes, so he's gonna sign back

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Speaker 1: good and it's good to hear.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, those are reports.

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Speaker 1: Yet it's easy to say, well, that guy's that guy's

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Speaker 1: on a field. He's gonna be on the fifty three.

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Speaker 1: You know, this isn't one of this isn't like you know,

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Speaker 1: Justin Shorter, who we don't know about he was on

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Speaker 1: you know this, here's your jet touchdown right watching now

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Speaker 1: he turned it up the field and he was.

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Speaker 2: I remember as a home game. I just couldn't remember

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Speaker 2: for the opponent, but yeah, it was oh yeah, this

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Speaker 2: is when Josh jumps on him. He runs down the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, in the in the stands there in the stands. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: good stuff, had good stuff. Well, congratulations to Ty Johnson.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll wait for the official word from the Bills,

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Speaker 2: but yeah, it looks like that's gonna happen. So that's good.

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Speaker 2: Big plot twist yesterday, in terms of free agent signings,

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Speaker 2: after four PM, it was only a third round pick.

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Speaker 2: If they signed him before four PM, because he was

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Speaker 2: signs with Tennessee four years, ninety two million dollars ninety

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Speaker 1: To boot, that's not optimal for Jacksonville and Calvin Ridley.

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Speaker 1: There's no question. He was the top name on the

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Speaker 1: list of free agents. And and he's a he can go, man,

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Speaker 1: the guy can play really good. Router gets separation. He's

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Speaker 1: a he's he's an NFL bona fide wide receiver who

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Speaker 1: you got to have a plan for. And Jacksonville lets

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Speaker 1: him walk, but lets him walk for ninety two million.

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Speaker 2: It's a steep price.

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Speaker 1: It is, and you almost have to feel like this,

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Speaker 1: And I know Tennessee's got money to spend, but my

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Speaker 1: you're Jacksonville thinking, okay, yeah, they get a good player,

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Speaker 1: do the Titans? But dude, they're blowing a lot of

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Speaker 2: And well they've been spending big right from the jump, right,

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Speaker 2: I'll run down the list for you. This is who

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Speaker 2: Tennessee has added for their team running back Tony Pollard

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Speaker 2: three years twenty four million. Center Lloyd Cushionberry from Denver,

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Speaker 2: agent market, four years fifty million. Shadobia Wuzy the corner

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Speaker 2: from Cincinnati three years thirty six million. Kenneth Murray, linebacker

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Speaker 2: from the Chargers, two years eighteen million. Mason Rudolph signs

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Speaker 2: hitter four years ninety two million, fifty of which is

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Speaker 2: been scribbling madly for the Tennessee Titans to try to

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Speaker 2: to Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: And listen, even on after those signings you just mentioned,

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Speaker 1: Titans have still have it. Looks on this website I'm

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Speaker 1: looking at they have sixty three guys signed, they have

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Speaker 1: sixty seven million to spend.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, now they lost some people, you know, Derrick Henry

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Speaker 2: I think he knew he wasn't going to be back

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Speaker 2: they also lost a corner and Sean Murphy bunting to Arizona.

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Speaker 2: But in the grand scheme of things, yeah, they've been

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Speaker 2: revamping their offense. I think their defense still has something

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Speaker 1: People around the league scratching their head over why they

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Speaker 1: got rid of Mike Rabel, But now they did. Moving

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Speaker 2: Ryan Callahan new head coach, here we go. I'm not

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Speaker 2: surprised there's been an offensive focus. I mean, Callahan's an

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Speaker 1: It's common to see the pendulum swing the opposite direction.

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Speaker 1: When we had a coach who had certain problems. The

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Speaker 2: Here own, here's a perfect counter example to that. Right,

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Speaker 2: So tennessee almost all their free agent acquisitions offense, almost

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Speaker 2: all of them. Here are the free agent acquisitions of

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Speaker 2: the Houston Texans, Steve who I also think have done

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Speaker 2: some nice things in free agency. Tamiko Ryans, head coach,

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Speaker 2: former linebacker. Here are his free agent signings to this point. Okay,

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Speaker 2: got punter Tommy Townsend and offensive tackle David Sharp, a

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Speaker 2: not Houston's gonna be a problem.

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Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing, And it's easy to say that

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Speaker 1: about the head coach, but the GM is the guy

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Speaker 1: picking him.

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Speaker 2: Yes, the coach has input.

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Speaker 1: That's how much the coach has input. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: that's the way it goes. I'm I don't know, just

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Speaker 1: of the ball, right, and maybe that and maybe that's time.

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Speaker 1: I mean because because listen, Houston's offense last year was

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Speaker 1: Stroud took a step forward. They're probably leaning on him

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Speaker 1: gotta shore some stuff up. I get it, but it's

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Speaker 1: you know, it's a little unbalanced.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm telling you, man, the Bills have to

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Speaker 2: play the AFC South next year. That that division has

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Speaker 2: improved their ranks.

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Speaker 1: Considerably, there was no place to go but up.

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Speaker 2: Well, yes, you are right about that.

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Speaker 1: They stunk last year.

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Speaker 2: They did top to bottom, but Houston ends up winning

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Speaker 2: the division. They've got a short strawly have a franchise quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: The team that drew the short straw in that division one,

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Speaker 1: they they are k's your turn. I mean, they were

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Speaker 2: Indy lost their franchise quarterback to injury last year and

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Speaker 2: had to go with Minshew the rest of the way.

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Speaker 2: Jacksonville had I think what many would consider a down

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Speaker 2: and Tennessee was Tennessee se. He was rebuilding YEA, and

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Speaker 2: Tennessee is you know, trying to get on the come

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Speaker 2: up here. And you know, I liked what I saw

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Speaker 2: from Will Levis down the stretch last year. He did

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Speaker 2: the Bills as solid with that big road win at

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Speaker 2: Miami last year.

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Speaker 1: The Bills, and you can see here in our graphic

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Speaker 1: there's there's eight teams the Bills play that are playoff

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Speaker 1: teams from a year ago. Three of them are at home,

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Speaker 1: five of them on the road. Dolphins, Texans, Rams, Ravens, Lions,

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Speaker 2: Play the entire AFC South and that is the intra

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Speaker 2: conference division opponents this year coming up. Yeah, so you'll

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Speaker 2: see Anthony Richardson if he's healthy, Will Levis, Trevor Lawrence,

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Speaker 2: young quarterbacks. And that's all young quarterbacks in that division.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and in the last five years, well, yeah, all

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence falls in all the first round picks. Trevor

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Speaker 1: Lawrence falls into the last five years, That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Then you've got then you got Aaron Rodgers. Theoretically, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna see Kyler Murray. You're going to see Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: was just talking about the AFC AFC South that's all.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna get some good quarterbacks. Yeah, you can't avoid

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Speaker 2: Speaking of the Bengals, this is something to keep an

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Speaker 1: It's interesting to see these guys say I'd like to

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Speaker 1: So so I don't know why you say where you'd

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Speaker 2: What are we? Second banana?

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Speaker 2: as follows. Arizona made offensive tackle DJ Humphreys their June

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Speaker 2: There were two Michael Thomas who incidentally, Steve, I know

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the June first list we were talking about.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you can't play if you can't can't run, run,

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Speaker 2: Forty nine catches in one season.

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Speaker 2: What's up? Stan?

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Speaker 4: Hey, brownie hate Caster. You know, it's funny that I'm

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Speaker 4: seeing these contracts and Spicily a big wide receiver year

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Speaker 4: coming out of college. And you know, I Ridley's a

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Speaker 4: great player, but at almost three million dollars a year

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Speaker 4: I'm looking at the at the charts, and I know

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Speaker 4: What would that cost us?

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Speaker 3: Guys?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a it's a feasible move. I think

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Speaker 2: what we have to remember is the Bills do not

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Speaker 2: is it possible? Is a possibility. I mean it's the worst.

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Speaker 2: If you need to use a three, you might three

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Speaker 1: You might be able to use two fours only eight

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Speaker 2: So you can use two fours to do that.

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Speaker 1: You can use two fours to do that, or maybe

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Speaker 2: Can you use a four and you can use.

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Speaker 1: You could use it four, two, five, You could use

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Speaker 2: You've got four to six round picks.

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Speaker 1: Now you could take your one thirty four pick, your

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Speaker 1: move from twenty eight to twenty four, three, twenty three

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Speaker 1: or four. That's what you're talking about. I don't do it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say this. I am somewhat encouraged that

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Speaker 2: that doesn't get you all the way to twenty eight,

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Speaker 2: but the point here.

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Speaker 1: Is, but then you've got you've got pushing the talent.

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Speaker 1: List of seven receivers, Yeah, it's pushing the talent down.

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Speaker 1: You got a list of seven receivers from Marvin Harrison Junior,

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Speaker 1: Malik Neighbors, Roma Dunza, Brian Thomas Junior, Troy Franklin, Keon Coleman,

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Speaker 1: eighty Mitchell. Is there another one I'm missing you can

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Speaker 1: go get.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. People tend to believe that Franklin's kind of falling

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Speaker 1: I think Xavierly you're gonna get one of those, one

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Speaker 2: To look at. Whoever five, six, and seven are on your.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the record. Seven is the most wide receivers

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Speaker 1: But like Brownie said, ton of offensive tackles, edge rushers

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Speaker 1: and the quarterbacks and every one of those spots, you

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Speaker 1: only need twenty You need to count up twenty seven

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 1: And not everybody is gonna be on the wide receiver

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Speaker 2: You know, especially in light of the way free agency.

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Speaker 2: Well, if they don't keep Higgins.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's possible if they Even if they do keep Higgins,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but if you have if you're paying giant money

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Speaker 1: I mean, they ain't playing my giant money to Higgins,

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Speaker 1: they got it. He's on a franchise tag, right, but well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I get twenty three million dollars. They're not committed past

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Speaker 1: this year, though, And if you're going to get a tackle,

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Speaker 1: you can get him cheap for one year and trade

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you're going for a receiver in

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Speaker 2: if you're the Bengals there, I'm not convinced.

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Speaker 1: You get down the list and it's it's I don't

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Speaker 1: know where some of these teams are going on, Like

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Speaker 1: I don't know where Vegas lands.

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Speaker 2: On all this, and the Vegas needs a lot of

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Speaker 1: They're at number thirteen, the Chargers, Jim Harbaugh.

438
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Speaker 2: That's the Raiders. May take a quarterback at thirteen.

439
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Speaker 1: Think about it. I mean, you don't know who these

440
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 1: The Tennessee Titans, the Giants, Stable.

441
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 2: Titans, DA Bans aren't take a receiver they got they got, uh,

442
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,399
Speaker 2: they got Calvin Ridley who they just signed, right, And

443
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 2: who's the guy who's the guy that from Arizona? Why

444
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 2: can I not think of his dang name, DeAndre Hopkins, right?

445
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 1: Oh, d hop Yeah, d hops washed. But I think

446
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 1: I don't think he's got moments in him left, but

447
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,160
Speaker 1: he does not have Who the hell cares?

448
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 2: If Tennessee loves him, that means they're probably not taking

449
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 2: a receiver a round one.

450
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 1: That's right.

451
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:29,959
Speaker 2: You know they got those two jokers.

452
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,400
Speaker 1: I don't know how much new head coach loves him, but yeah, maybe,

453
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 1: but you got all the every other team in the

454
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,120
Speaker 1: league except out, you know, outside of Detroit, Baltimore, San Francisco,

455
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:42,439
Speaker 1: and Kansas City. Those are the four teams behind the

456
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:47,119
Speaker 1: Bills in the first round. We'll see, Uh, twenty seven's

457
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,399
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of players, but like you said,

458
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,199
Speaker 1: a lot of really good players up there that the

459
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,399
Speaker 1: Bills don't have any interest in in that position anyway.

460
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 1: We'll see. They're gonna get a good player, no question

461
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 1: about it. Like they got Kincaid last year. So they're

462
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:06,159
Speaker 1: gonna get a guy. We'll see how good it's gonna be.

463
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 1: But one of those names from Marvin Harrison, Malik Neighbors,

464
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 1: Roma Doonza, Brian Thomas, Junior, Troy Franklin, Keon coleman, A

465
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 1: d Mitchell, Lad mcconkee. You know, Pierce Soul's in there.

466
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,160
Speaker 2: Can throw it. He's probably not a first round guy, right.

467
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 2: Xavier leget may sneak up.

468
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,439
Speaker 1: Xavior Legett is another I'm gonna write that down to Xavier.

469
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 2: He might sneak up into the bottom of round one

470
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,439
Speaker 2: after the testing stuff that he had. He put on

471
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 2: a show, so.

472
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:39,880
Speaker 1: All of that stuff. Yeah, it's it's well, it's obvious.

473
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 1: I mean, if the lower in the draft you are,

474
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,639
Speaker 1: the more uncertainty there is about what's going to be

475
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:44,399
Speaker 1: the available to you.

476
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,879
Speaker 2: Let's get back to the phones and to Ron in

477
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 2: Buffalo next. What's up, Ron?

478
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 5: Hey, how you doing? I like leget look at Yeah,

479
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 5: I'd love to see the bells get this guy. He's

480
00:24:56,359 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 5: got great thick of heads and I the thing is,

481
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,439
Speaker 5: I would definitely get BOYD. I do not want to

482
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 5: see him go to Kansas City whatsoever. Uh, no way possible,

483
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 5: just to give him another weapon like that, No way,

484
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 5: Let's try to get him or whatever.

485
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if they can afford him, But yeah, Ron,

486
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,360
Speaker 1: don't get caught up in what the Chiefs are doing.

487
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:21,919
Speaker 1: Just make your team as good as it can be.

488
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 1: You can't get caught up and keeping guys away from

489
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 1: other teams. They're gonna get better. They're gonna or they're

490
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 1: gonna do their best to get better.

491
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Speaker 5: Oh, I know, I trust, I trust, I trust being.

492
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Speaker 5: I'd like to see him get a couple of UH

493
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 5: safeties like Kitchens, and I think we can get them

494
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 5: in the second or third round or while we don't

495
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Speaker 5: have a third round.

496
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Speaker 2: Or third round, well, right.

497
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Speaker 5: So, I mean I think the safeties are gonna be

498
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,120
Speaker 5: there in the later rounds, and I think we could

499
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Speaker 5: get a couple of good ones and and groom them

500
00:25:54,680 --> 00:26:03,360
Speaker 5: behind UH our boys because right right at Douglas, mister Douglas.

501
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Speaker 3: And I think that would be great to do.

502
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I mean I could. Steve and I have

503
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 2: talked about that. I could see them drafting a safety.

504
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 2: I don't about two, but I could see them drafting

505
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 2: one for sure. Really, the only one that is expected

506
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,159
Speaker 2: to go in the top fifty for sure is the

507
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:25,360
Speaker 2: Minnesota kid Tyler Nuban. He is phenomenal. He broke all

508
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 2: of Antoine Winfield juniors records at Minnesota and had thirteen

509
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 2: interceptions in his career. I mean, he is a solid

510
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 2: all around safety and he's probably gonna go in the

511
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 2: top fifty selections. The kid I like, you know that

512
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,880
Speaker 2: they may have a look at if he slips a little,

513
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 2: is the Kaylin Bullet kid from USC. Narrow framed player,

514
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 2: but a three year starter. And don't let his narrow

515
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 2: frame fool you. He is a violent tackler and rarely whiffs.

516
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 2: I mean he comes down in the run front and

517
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 2: he's got pop behind his pads, and you know he

518
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 2: can come down and cover in the slot. He's got

519
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 2: tape showing him doing that. He's handled tight end end

520
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 2: receiver coverage responsibilities, and he's got long limbs. He gets

521
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 2: hands in passing lanes pretty effectively and has long speed

522
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 2: in my estimation from what I've seen. So I just

523
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:27,719
Speaker 2: like his game. So I'd be very happy with Kayln Bullock.

524
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 2: You mentioned Kinchin's nice player. I like Bullock a little

525
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 2: bit better, and I think Javon Bullard, the Georgia kid,

526
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 2: he's probably off the board. His size is the issue there.

527
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,719
Speaker 2: He's only five to eleven one ninety seven. He plays

528
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 2: bigger than that, but some teams may shy away. Maybe

529
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 2: he slips to the late third round and maybe you

530
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 2: make a move to get up there to grab him.

531
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Speaker 2: So there are players and even late that Cole Bishop

532
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 2: kid from Utah, he's got Bill's DNA written all over

533
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 2: him in terms of, you know, his character and off

534
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 2: the field and all of that stuff. And then he

535
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 2: tested better than expected at the combine, So that could

536
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 2: be an intriguing player. Knowing the Bills have a lot

537
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 2: of fourth and fifth round picks.

538
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, Brownie and I have talked a lot about yet

539
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 1: we generally speaking, you feel like, Okay, they're gonna the

540
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 1: Bills are gonna come out with like two or three

541
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: wide receivers, two or three defensive lineman edge guys, and

542
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 1: then both of us think there's gonna come out here

543
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 1: with a safety at least one. And then you know,

544
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:31,959
Speaker 1: because they got eleven picks, So that's I think that's

545
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 1: gonna happen. I think they'll sign one of the twenty

546
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: eight starting safeties that are on the market right now

547
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 1: later in the process, like Von Bell who just took

548
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: a one year, six million dollar deal. Brownie said in

549
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: the opening of the show's that sets the market right there.

550
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 1: So the Bills are gonna be able to get a

551
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: guy for around that money or less, and they may

552
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: it may be a guy they really really like. So

553
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: that would obviously take the urgency off the draft for

554
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: safety position. But that doesn't mean there's still going to

555
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: take one. Won't still take one? I think they will,

556
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: So I'm you know, it's you know, we're all on

557
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 1: this wide receiver train for the draft, but we're also

558
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 1: on a defensive line edge rusher train. And then Brownie

559
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: and I just kind of today we kind of came

560
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: to the thing like we're on the safety train too.

561
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and even linebacker's kind of a sneaky need, you know,

562
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 2: especially with Milano not expected to be on a practice

563
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 2: field until training camp, and even then he might be limited,

564
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 2: so you know, his long range prognosis may have them saying,

565
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 2: you know, let's get a little more depth here. I mean,

566
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,959
Speaker 2: Nicholas Morrow, you know, is a guy that's reportedly going

567
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 2: to sign here, the free agent linebacker from Philadelphia, So

568
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 2: you know, you've got that in the mix as well.

569
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 2: But I could see them trying to find some depth

570
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 2: at the position too. Got to take a break here,

571
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 2: but more of your phone calls when we return, how

572
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 2: would you title Buffalo's activity in free agency thus far?

573
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 2: Give us a give us a headline title for Buffalo's

574
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 2: activity and free agency. Eighth three oh five point fifty

575
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 2: one eight at eight five point fifty two, five fifty

576
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 2: the number to get on board. Got open lines for you,

577
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 2: and we are wide open for your phone calls. We'll

578
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 2: have pffs Brad Spielberger and our number two today as

579
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 2: we kind of review this first wave of free agency

580
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,959
Speaker 2: with him coming up next on One Bill's Live, though

581
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 2: it's more of your phone call. Stay tuned, all right,

582
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 2: Welcome back to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve tasking

583
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 2: with you here on a Thursday. As we continue through

584
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Speaker 2: the free agent marketplace. It looks like Wave one has

585
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 2: come and gone, and as we mentioned, we'll be catching

586
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 2: up with Pro Football focuses Brad Spielberger in the second

587
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 2: hour of the show to kind of dice up Buffalo's acquisitions,

588
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 2: maybe some of their subtractions as well, and see where

589
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 2: he comes down on Buffalo has done knowing their cap constraints.

590
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 2: UH to this point, eight oh three five point fifty

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00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 2: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty is

592
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 2: the number to get on board. As we are asking

593
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Speaker 2: you today, what title would you put on Buffalo's free

594
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 2: agency activity thus far? Give us a title for it.

595
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 2: You know, you can come up with just about anything,

596
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 2: and we'll just ask that you keep it clean.

597
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. Uh, but let's face it, we knew

598
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: what we knew kind of what was going to look

599
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: like coming in. Uh, so it's unsurprising so far, I

600
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: would say there hasn't been any I think dake One

601
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: getting being signed back was probably a little bit of

602
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: a pleasant surprise for most people who watch the Bills.

603
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: Other than that, I think it's been even aj Panessa.

604
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: It's nice to have him back.

605
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 2: Uh.

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00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: There's a guy who's who's gonna be twenty Listen, he's

607
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: gonna be twenty four when the season kicks off.

608
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, turns twenty five this year later this year, and

609
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 2: uh people, and he's on the ascent. Yeah, I believe

610
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 2: there's still more ceiling for him to reach. So I'm

611
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 2: encouraging to get him back in the fold. Well.

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00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: I think that's the most interesting part of it for

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00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: the Bills has been not the new names that they've

614
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: signed off the free agent wire, but the guys they've

615
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: re signed Spen dayk one and aj At Panessa. Certainly

616
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: mac Hollins is a little bit intriguing, but we had

617
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Speaker 1: to wait and see him. Most of those guys, it's like, Okay,

618
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: what do you look like? And we got to find out.

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Speaker 2: Uh eight oh three oh five fifteen that I'm going

620
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 2: to get on board. Got some open lines for you there.

621
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Speaker 2: Gonna crack open the tweet sheet here briefly to see

622
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Speaker 2: how you would title the Bills activity and free agency

623
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Speaker 2: so far. Tweets sheet brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems,

624
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Speaker 2: the official equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills, and

625
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 2: Joseph says smart filling needed holes and not overpaying for players. Yes,

626
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 2: there are very intriguing players that would help the Bills

627
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 2: out greatly, but still have the draft plus post compick

628
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 2: free agents. Wouldn't mind seeing a trade for Sutton.

629
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: Though, Courtland Sutton.

630
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 2: He's talking talking about Courtland Sutton from Denver. From what

631
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 2: I understand, he is not being shopped now. There were

632
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 2: reports that he was, but now we're hearing that he's not.

633
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 2: And that makes sense because they've already traded Jerry Judy

634
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 2: to Cleveland. So I can't see them throwing another top

635
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 2: receiver overboard, especially knowing their quarterback situation is up in

636
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 2: the air after moving on from Russell.

637
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: Wilson up in the air, to say the least.

638
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 2: I mean, they'll probably draft one. Sean Payton would probably

639
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 2: want a draft one, so and hopefully he does that.

640
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 2: Do they have a first round pick I think Denver

641
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 2: or did they trade it away in the Russell Wilson deal.

642
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: They have, They did it last year twelve.

643
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 2: So they might take a quarterback too. That's good news.

644
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson getting thrown overboard is good news. As far

645
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 2: as teams in front of the Bills who may not

646
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 2: take a receiver, I would say they would fall in

647
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 2: the quarterback category. Chris on the tweets sheet says the

648
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 2: Great Balancing Act the Buffalo Bills twenty twenty four free agency.

649
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 2: That's a good title because it is a balancing act

650
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 2: between the cap money you have to work with and

651
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Speaker 2: finding good value on the open market. So yeah, I

652
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 2: would say that's a good title to have. Let's get

653
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 2: back to the phones though, at a three five point fifty,

654
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 2: you got an open line for you there, and we

655
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 2: go to Gary in Lancaster next. What do you got,

656
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 2: fir Us? Gary?

657
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 3: Hey, I think we're patient is the word we have.

658
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 3: We are not in a desker position at all. I

659
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 3: think people overrate that we're still in the top six

660
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 3: or eight teams in the league. It sounds a lot

661
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,720
Speaker 3: of splashes go with the big name players. It hurts,

662
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 3: I get it. But we're not desperate. We're just reloading.

663
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 3: And it's a different approach some teams are, you know,

664
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 3: the banking and the draft rock quarterback which is not us.

665
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:54,240
Speaker 3: Obviously running back which is not us, maybe a receiver.

666
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 3: But I think we can be patient and find our holes,

667
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 3: and with eleven draft choices, I think to go with

668
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 3: mutatient and fill your holes.

669
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Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think you think the Bill's gonna

670
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 1: use all eleven or you think they'll trade some of

671
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 1: them to move up or down.

672
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 3: I think they're losing most of them. I mean the

673
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 3: safety and numbers. Yeah, I mean, you've got one. If

674
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 3: you have one draft choice, you got to hit on

675
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 3: that one. And we've seen many many miss so out

676
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 3: of eleven, if they can get three four guys that

677
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 3: go out eleven, that's pretty good. Yeah.

678
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, really, Gary, you're right. I mean, that's

679
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 1: that's the number you're talking about. Most g If you

680
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: can bat just under five hundred, you can get three

681
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 1: or four guys out of ten, or three or four

682
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:35,720
Speaker 1: guys out of eleven.

683
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 2: You bat three hundred, you going decent.

684
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: And that's kind of what you're looking at, and pretty

685
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: big four hundred because you're talking about quality NFL players

686
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 1: that you get for you know, cheap. You're talking about

687
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: Matt Mulano. You know, you're talking about Tarren Johnson, Guys

688
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 1: like that that come along in the middle rounds that

689
00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: are Brown, yes, Spencer Brown. It's they're hard to find

690
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: and all these and I know this too, but we

691
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,479
Speaker 1: get calls all the time about people who just poo poop.

692
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean's draft guy he has and he misses on

693
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: all these guys. I'm like, okay, yeah, then you tell

694
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: that to you Tell that to Dalton Kincaid and James Cook,

695
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: you know, tell that to all those guys, Terrell Bernard

696
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 1: and Spencer Christian, Christian Benford. Tell it to all those

697
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: guys how bad they stink as draft picks. You know,

698
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: it's Khalis Shakir, you know, Dawson Knox, you get down

699
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: the list, uh Osirius Torrance. So uh yeah, they're hitting

700
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: on draft picks at a pretty good clip. Now, certainly

701
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 1: you'd love to see him hit on all of these guys,

702
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: and there's gonna be a ton of them that that

703
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 1: aren't gonna work out. But if you can get three

704
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 1: or four really good players out of this eleven picks,

705
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: no matter whether even if it's the eleventh pick, which

706
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: I think the last pick the Bills have is like

707
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:06,280
Speaker 1: one is two something something, two twenty something.

708
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 2: They have two oh.

709
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 1: Four and it's here it is two o three two three,

710
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 1: and they have one ninety nine. That's their last pick.

711
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 2: I think those have become two hundred and two oh

712
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 2: four now. And the only reason I say that is

713
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 2: because of that altered Cincinnati compick, because they have a

714
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 2: pick in round three now, so they've moved all the

715
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 2: Bills picks back.

716
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 1: Right, it's two hundred and two oh four. Yeah right,

717
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: I had to refresh that page. That's so that's if

718
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: you're right, Gary, you got to have a realistic expectation.

719
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 1: And and we say that the standard line is same.

720
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: You don't think Brandon Bean's drafting, well, go look at

721
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: other the record of other GMS, and certainly you'll have

722
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: a hard time doing it because you're gonna have to

723
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 1: go look at gms who've already been fired, because you're

724
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: gonna have to go back in time to check their

725
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: out because they didn't they for the exact reason. So

726
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:03,879
Speaker 1: you know, three or four really good players would be

727
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: a huge win for the Bills.

728
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 2: You really have to think about success in the draft

729
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 2: like a baseball batting average. If a GM bats three

730
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 2: hundred in the draft, in terms of finding starters, he's

731
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 2: doing very well and he'll be a GM for a

732
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 2: long time in his current place. If he bats four hundred,

733
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 2: he is the equivalent of Ted Williams. You find four

734
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 2: starters every year in the draft.

735
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: You only get seven picks.

736
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 2: You find four starters in every draft. I mean, who

737
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 2: that you're really killing? Back in time you can. I'm

738
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 2: pretty sure the stats back this up. You go back

739
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 2: in time and find teams who have hit a home

740
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 2: run in the draft, it's because they get four starters.

741
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:46,800
Speaker 1: And Seattle did it.

742
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 2: Legion of boom years.

743
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 1: Seattle did it two years in a row. They got

744
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: four starters two years in a row, and they went

745
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: to two straight Super Bowls because of it, And then they.

746
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 2: Couldn't even keep all of them right because they all

747
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 2: wanted big.

748
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: Money, right, And and they got a quarterback and was

749
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 1: one of those as a third rounder on a court

750
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 1: on a you know, team friendly deal, a rookie contract,

751
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 1: and they went to two straight Super Bowls.

752
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 2: And then a super hoppy wagoner, Cam Chancellor, Richard Sherman

753
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,720
Speaker 2: the other free safety, and then they had escaping Kalis Campbell.

754
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 1: They had. They didn't have Khalais Campbell in Seattle. They did,

755
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 1: they did? Oh yeah he was. Yeah, he was on

756
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: the front floor of that legion of boom he started there.

757
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: Did he really? Dude, have you ever seen Kalais Campbell

758
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: in person?

759
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a gigantic human being that's like six '

760
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 2: eight three five and.

761
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: He's one of those guys. I'm telling you if I

762
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 1: was if I was built like Khalais Campbell.

763
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 2: And he's played so long I forgot sixteen years old.

764
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: I'd still be playing. He's going to play as long

765
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: as he wants to. He played in Baltimore this last year. No,

766
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: he was in Atlanta last I'm sorry Atlanta last year.

767
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 1: That guy, he's six ' eight three bills plus and

768
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 1: he's just you know, plays with.

769
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 2: The never played for Seattle, Come on, played for Arizona

770
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 2: for eight years? Is that he was first? I was

771
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 2: pretty sure he hadn't played for k all.

772
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 1: Right, who I got to go back and look at

773
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: now at that roster. But that's but that's what happened

774
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 1: in Seattle. They had two draft I remember reading an

775
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: article about it, and it.

776
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 2: Was Richard Sherman was a third round.

777
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,280
Speaker 1: The point, the point of the the article was that, listen,

778
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: that's what the draft is. They got four starters out

779
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 1: of two straight drafts. And they the guys were right

780
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: on the field right away. And and look look at

781
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Same thing. They popped those guys out in

782
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 1: the defensive backfield when they had no child draft to

783
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 1: do it. Three corners and they all two of them started.

784
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 2: And one was like the fourth corner off the bench,

785
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 2: and he's gonna probably start this year, Josh Williams.

786
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 1: So when you do that, it changes things dramatically because

787
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 1: all those guys are dirt cheap labor and you're not

788
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: even allowed to restructure. You can't even you can't even

789
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: until after year three. So they get them for that.

790
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: That you know that three year period control for three

791
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,959
Speaker 1: years and and plus it's cost control, and they're hitting

792
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 1: it out of the park on the field, so that

793
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: you know, that's where you're at in this draft with

794
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 1: eleven picks. Now certainly they're not you know, you know

795
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 1: you don't have eleven picks inside the top one hundred

796
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: and fifty, but you got two inside the top hundred

797
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: and your third pick is one twenty three, No, one

798
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: twenty eight, I'm sorry, one twenty eight, So you know

799
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: they got robbed of that stinking third one com pick. Yeah,

800
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: pick swine.

801
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 2: That's still bugging me.

802
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,760
Speaker 1: So they don't have any third round pick. That's a crusher.

803
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 1: But they got picked twenty eight and pick sixty and

804
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: then they go all the way to pick one twenty

805
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 1: Would I say one twenty eight? Yeah? Yeah, that's you

806
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 1: hit on all those hit on those three. Thank you. Yeah,

807
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: I'm good. Just make sure the right guy.

808
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 2: Gotta take a break here, but we'll take more of

809
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 2: your phone calls when we come back. We'll lead off

810
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 2: with Dan in Tampa and others holding at eight oh

811
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 2: three oh five fifty, But we do have open lines

812
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 2: for you. Let us know, how would you title Buffalo's

813
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 2: activity in free agency so far? You know, three oh

814
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 2: five fifty the phone number to get on board. We're

815
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 2: back with more here on Oneviille's Live station. All right,

816
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 2: welcome back to Oneville's Live Chris Brown, Steve's asking with you,

817
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 2: and as promised, we're going right back to the phones

818
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 2: as we are asking you today, how would you title

819
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 2: Buffalo's activity in free agency thus far? And we lead

820
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 2: off with Dan in Tampa. What's up, Dan.

821
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 6: Brownie? How are you buddy here?

822
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:29,240
Speaker 3: Asking?

823
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 2: Listen?

824
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 6: Uh, this whole you know, window is closing? Thing is crap.

825
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 3: I mean, as long as we got.

826
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 6: Seventeen at the helm, we're fine. And the thing is

827
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 6: is that we got eleven picks. If we choose seven

828
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 6: guys and maybe we hit on three or four of them,

829
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,280
Speaker 6: then we've had a good draft. We don't have the money,

830
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 6: so yes, it's I would say it's an uneventful free agency.

831
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 3: But that was expected.

832
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 6: Anybody thinking that we were just gonna like Rob Peter

833
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 6: to pay Paul. I'm like, that's not the way Dean

834
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 6: of McDermott operating.

835
00:42:58,200 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 1: You know.

836
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:02,919
Speaker 6: So I think we've been fine, you know, and we've

837
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 6: extended the guy that we really needed to. I love

838
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 6: Deacon Johns. I don't care if he's thirty two or

839
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 6: whatever it is. He's still just perfect for Ed Oliver.

840
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 6: He is like the anchor of the center of the

841
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 6: team on defense. And I do like the guy in

842
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 6: the morning call this morning that just said, you know,

843
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 6: just load up the offense, and I agree, load up

844
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 6: the offense war receivers. I'm on Jeremy's train.

845
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a train we all want to be on.

846
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 2: So thanks for the call. Appreciate it. Yeah, I mean,

847
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 2: I think if you, if you paid enough attention to

848
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,320
Speaker 2: know what Buffalo's cap constraints were going to be. Having

849
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,959
Speaker 2: pushed some money down the road from previous years after

850
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 2: the COVID cap went backwards eighteen million dollars and really

851
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 2: put the Bills and a lot of other teams in

852
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 2: a bind, you understood that the Bills weren't going to

853
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 2: be big players in free agency throwing around money. They

854
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:54,760
Speaker 2: were going to try to fill the holes they could,

855
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 2: but on a budget. And I think for the most part,

856
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 2: they've done a good job of that here in this

857
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 2: first week a free agency, and I would anticipate other

858
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 2: small deals. We'll continue to trickle in because the bottom

859
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 2: line is they still have a lot of holes to

860
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 2: fill on a roster that only probably has right now

861
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 2: sixty something players. I haven't done a head count yet,

862
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 2: but if it's more than seventy, I'd be surprised. But yeah,

863
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 2: so there's still more work to be done, and obviously

864
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 2: the draft is going to play a big part of

865
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,800
Speaker 2: that because it's relatively cheap labor.

866
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: Fifty seven guys the Bills have them signed.

867
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean we all the way to.

868
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: Ninety, but yet it's the top fifty one that go

869
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: on the cap at this time of year, and that's

870
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: what it is. They got fifty seven, So I'm with

871
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 1: you that you're right the Bills need to hit on

872
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: the four would be great, and if they pick all

873
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 1: eleven guys, maybe get a shot at a fly or

874
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 1: the where a guy develops in the next year or

875
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 1: two on his rookie deal, where he comes on and

876
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 1: gets on the field, then that'd be awesome. But you

877
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: do need you do need some help with some specific positions.

878
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: The Bills have gone out and tried to do that

879
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: in a little bit of a frugal way, to say

880
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,919
Speaker 1: the least. No question because they were hampered by their cap.

881
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: But that's right where I'm at too. Think of what

882
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 1: this team is bringing back, and you start right with

883
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:14,919
Speaker 1: Josh right, and so you got Josh, you got James Cook,

884
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:16,879
Speaker 1: you got that offensive line that comes back, and without

885
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: mch morse, but with Connor McGovern, with David Edwards. I

886
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: mean you got you got an offensive line that seems

887
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: at the very least dependable, viable, if not really really good.

888
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 1: Ken Kaid knocks digs, Shakir Cook, Ty Johnson is now

889
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 1: back on the roster. This an offense is gonna be

890
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 1: a load. And I'll say this too. I was telling

891
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 1: Bernie I, you know, and asking around guys around the league,

892
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 1: there's been a consensus for people other than Bill's, people

893
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: that moved to Joe Brady last year was a big

894
00:45:55,120 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: plus for Buffalo. And so that with Joe Brady having

895
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: an off side on an off season to start, you know,

896
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,879
Speaker 1: doing his thing or whatever that may be. I don't

897
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 1: know what it looks like, but I've I've heard some

898
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 1: real optimism about what this offense is going to look

899
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: like under Joe Brady for a full season. That's from

900
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: other people outside this building and around the National Football League.

901
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 1: So it's it's interesting to think about. It's fun to

902
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: think about the ain't window ain't closed in Buffalo. I'm

903
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: firm believer in that they are going to be a

904
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: load to deal with.

905
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 2: We have a moratorium on window closing conversations on this show.

906
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 2: I don't discuss it.

907
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 1: The way they do things. Brandon Bean, Brandon Bean in

908
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,720
Speaker 1: the way he runs this personnel side the way Sean

909
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: McDermott has maximized this roster a year after year after year.

910
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 1: They're a wagon man and it ain't stopping now. Certainly

911
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 1: there's some other teams that are. You know, you can

912
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: point to the Chiefs, you can point to the to

913
00:46:55,719 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: the Ravens and the Bengals. Yeah, okay, let me tell

914
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 1: you something. Those teams gear up when they play the

915
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills too. It's a big one and for good reason.

916
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: So and the Bills are right in the thick of it,

917
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 1: and they're going to be again this year. It's fun

918
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 1: to see them build this roster because I'll tell you what,

919
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:17,800
Speaker 1: no matter what it looks like from here on it

920
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 1: they're going to be in the conversation to win the

921
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 1: whole thing again this year. And it's we're going to

922
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 1: see how much different it's going to look than the

923
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: last iterations when they were Also in that conversation.

924
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 2: There are a couple of interesting league wide stories that

925
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 2: have just come down in the last few minutes. The

926
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 2: NFL is going to review the Falcons dealing with Kirk

927
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 2: Cousins and the Eagles interactions with Saquon Barkley as they

928
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 2: relate to the tampering rules. Did they reach out and

929
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 2: contact representatives or the players themselves prior to the legal

930
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 2: negotiating period that, as we know, began on March eleventh

931
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 2: at new They will be probably checking phone records and

932
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 2: evidence of them making phone calls or back channeling in

933
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 2: some way, shape or form prior to the noon kickoff

934
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 2: on Monday, and there will be penalties if they can

935
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 2: find proof of them tampering illegally with players that are

936
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 2: technically not for you.

937
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 1: I get it, there are rules, and the rules apply

938
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 1: to everybody. But that's a little bit of an eye

939
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: roll for me. Okay, but yes, you're right. And also,

940
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 1: just a couple hours ago, I don't know if we

941
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: mentioned it yet, Dan Campbell, the head coach of the Lions,

942
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:35,240
Speaker 1: got extended.

943
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 2: So did the GM.

944
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 1: Brad Holmes, Yes, and good. Good for them. I mean

945
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: they deserve it, right, The Lions were a fantastic story.

946
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 1: The problem with the Lions being the great story is

947
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 1: that the reason, one of the reasons they were a

948
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 1: great story is because they were great. They were a

949
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 1: good team for the first time in four decades. That's

950
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,879
Speaker 1: the story. They were good. Yes, they had a nice

951
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: run and they played well. Dan Campbell is a really

952
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 1: good football coach, and they've got a good they got

953
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:08,359
Speaker 1: a good program working there in Detroit now. But now

954
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: that there's an expectation attached to it, let's see if

955
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 1: they can keep it going. But yeah, Dan Campbell and

956
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 1: the GM both got extended. Good for them, they deserved it.

957
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 2: There's another story here, not so Rosie Dak Prescott now

958
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 2: being investigated for his involvement in an alleged sexual assault

959
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 2: that took place in twenty seventeen. Dallas Police have confirmed this.

960
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 2: The alleged incident occurred in a parking lot of a

961
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:36,240
Speaker 2: strip club back in twenty seventeen, and it comes days

962
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 2: after Texas police opened an investigation into the Dallas Cowboys

963
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 2: quarterbacks claims that he was extorted. So That's going to

964
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 2: be a little bit of an interesting story down in

965
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 2: Dallas this offseason, to say the least, because there were

966
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 2: just talks that the Cowboys and Dak were gonna work

967
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 2: on massaging his contract to help create more caps for

968
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 2: the team. Now you have this off the field stuff,

969
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 2: and you know how stories go in Dallas that involve

970
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 2: the Cowboys. They're the biggest thing since slice bread down there,

971
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 2: So that is going to be a polarizing story as

972
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 2: it develops through the course of the off season for

973
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 2: that club. We got to take a break here though,

974
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 2: because when we come back our number two, we'll begin

975
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 2: with our good friend Brad Spielberger from Pro Football Focus.

976
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 2: He's been following free agency to the letter and he's

977
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 2: got some grades to hand out to some teams, including

978
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 2: the Bills. We'll catch up with him next here on

979
00:50:36,719 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 2: One Bill's Live presented by Colia Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

980
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live presented by Calllida Health.

981
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,399
Speaker 2: All Right, nour number two here on a Thursday, Chris

982
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 2: Brown Steve Tasker with you One Bill's Live and joining

983
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 2: us now from Pro Football Focused is analyst Brad Spielberger,

984
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 2: who has had his ear to the ground on free agency. Oh,

985
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 2: probably two months before the market even opened, maybe even

986
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 2: sooner than that. So we figured we'd get him back

987
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 2: in here to kind of assess wave one of the market.

988
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 2: Not even a full week and already a lot of

989
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 2: the money has already been spent. But Brad, thanks for

990
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,959
Speaker 2: joining us number one and then number two. We knew

991
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 2: that the Bills we're gonna have to take a budgetary

992
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 2: approach to free agency. They still have a lot of

993
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 2: holes left to fill, but in terms of value on

994
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 2: at its face, uh, we feel like the Bills have

995
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 2: done pretty good on a tight budget so far. What

996
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 2: do you think?

997
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, so, first, thanks for having me, And second I

998
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:22,439
Speaker 7: do agree. You know, I think there were some key

999
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 7: retention candidates there, and Daikwan Jones and aj A Panessa

1000
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,879
Speaker 7: obviously to you know, core members of that defensive line

1001
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 7: rotation that when they played last year showed a lot

1002
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 7: of good flashes. So I think it was important to

1003
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 7: retain those players. You obviously move on from, you know,

1004
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 7: the legendary Jordan Poi or Micah High duo. But I

1005
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 7: think keeping Taylor rap is that box defender kind of

1006
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 7: romer near the line of scrimmage was a smart retention.

1007
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 7: You know, you had Dion Dawkins playing games with us,

1008
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 7: but I think that was a smart extension for all

1009
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 7: parties there. So yeah, I would agree with you. I

1010
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 7: think you have seen some good moves, you know, looking externally.

1011
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,280
Speaker 7: I actually really like both of those signings. Nick Morrow

1012
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 7: is a good linebacker, can play at the mic or

1013
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 7: the spot. And then Matt Collins is kind of a

1014
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 7: I'm not going to compare him to Gave Davis, but

1015
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 7: he is a good run blocker that can catch the

1016
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 7: ball deep down field. So he's the big body, sometimes

1017
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 7: vertical threat that also is a willing and very capable

1018
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:16,240
Speaker 7: run blocker, and with him you'll probably get some special

1019
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 7: teams contributions as well. So yeah, I like what they've

1020
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 7: done so far.

1021
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1022
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: One of the things about this free agent stuff is

1023
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: you got thirty two teams. They're all exactly the same,

1024
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,840
Speaker 1: yet they're all really different. Their cap numbers are different.

1025
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 1: The point in history where free agency hits financially is

1026
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 1: different for each and every team. How do you how

1027
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,479
Speaker 1: do you get your mind around how like a team

1028
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 1: that has no money to spend at the beginning of

1029
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: free agency may handle it really well where a team

1030
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 1: that had a ton of money to spend botches it.

1031
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 1: How do you and I know too, you want you

1032
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 1: want to give him a grade, but it's kind of

1033
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 1: hard to know how it turns out until you see

1034
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 1: these players play and how they play up to or

1035
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 1: down to their contract.

1036
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, so making the biggest splashes in March, there is

1037
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 7: no guarantee that means they're gonna win games come September. Frankly,

1038
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 7: there's often an inverse correlation between those two things. So

1039
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 7: obviously you want to get better and fans get excited

1040
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 7: when they signed a big, flashy name, and of course

1041
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,800
Speaker 7: some of those guys come in make a massive impact,

1042
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 7: a huge difference. But really you mentioned the first wave.

1043
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 7: When you wait a little bit and enter the second

1044
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 7: wave and third wave, you're adding maybe some guys at

1045
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 7: non premium positions like you know, the interior offensive line

1046
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 7: or safety or linebacker like or depth running back like

1047
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 7: when you wait for some of those players or you

1048
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 7: add depth, you add rotational pieces, and those guys turn

1049
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:35,959
Speaker 7: out to have, you know, bigger roles and play above

1050
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 7: their weight. That's often where you win. So you know,

1051
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 7: like you said, obviously you know fans want to see

1052
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 7: it and people get excited about it, but staying patient,

1053
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 7: waiting for things to happen. And then, like you said,

1054
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 7: you can't really know the way I great it is.

1055
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 7: I have my expectation of what the contract's going to

1056
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 7: look like, and of course I'm not always right. I

1057
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 7: don't know about medicals or off field stuff that there's

1058
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:58,919
Speaker 7: other elements I can't know. But you know, I great

1059
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 7: it based on what I thought a guy was it's

1060
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,839
Speaker 7: worth and what he ultimately signs for. And I've been

1061
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 7: proven right many and I've been proven wrong on many

1062
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:05,479
Speaker 7: as well.

1063
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,439
Speaker 2: All Right, so I know you kind of already put

1064
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 2: together a comprehensive list. You kind of went team by

1065
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 2: team as well, and you even went player by player

1066
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 2: in terms of some of the fits with your stuff

1067
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 2: on Pro Football Focus. So let's let's go player by

1068
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 2: player if we could. Here. As far as the Bills

1069
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 2: are concerned, I know you said you kind of like

1070
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:32,800
Speaker 2: some of the fits and some of the major holes

1071
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,760
Speaker 2: they filled. Obviously, if you asked and pulled Bills fans,

1072
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 2: they would have told you Daikwon Jones was priority number one,

1073
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 2: and you know that fortunately got addressed. But if you

1074
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 2: look at some of the others. I think aj Epeness

1075
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 2: is an interesting case here, Brad, because I think some

1076
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 2: were fearful that somebody might see the potential with a

1077
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 2: guy that probably still has some ceiling to reach, not

1078
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 2: even twenty five years old yet, and we're fearful that

1079
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 2: somebody might take a swing at him. But the Bills

1080
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 2: get him back, and they do it at a pretty

1081
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 2: affordable number for a guy entering his prime years.

1082
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 7: And I think the thing here not that every decision

1083
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 7: is an either or, but if I'm Buffalo, and it was,

1084
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 7: you can keep Leonard Floyd for two years twenty million,

1085
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 7: or you can keep a younger piece for njmpinester for

1086
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 7: two years twelve at base value with incentives. Again, I

1087
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 7: like Leonard Floyd. He's been extremely productive as a Buffalo Bill,

1088
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:26,359
Speaker 7: but you're talking about a thirty one year old versus

1089
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 7: twenty six year old, and the underlying metrics for Floyd

1090
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 7: have not been as strong as his traditional stat production.

1091
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 7: So I think it was a smart decision there. Again,

1092
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 7: not that they had to make a decision between those

1093
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 7: two players, but yeah, I've been asa showed a lot

1094
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 7: of flashes. I think the last two years now when

1095
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 7: I was watching his pass rush snaps, particularly true pass sets,

1096
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 7: you know when you're going up against the tackle in

1097
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,320
Speaker 7: a one on one and have to win your matchup.

1098
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 7: I think you saw better use of his hands, more

1099
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 7: of a plan going into east each pass rush. Like,

1100
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 7: I think things are slowing down for him, and he's

1101
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,879
Speaker 7: playing more confidently, quicker first step off the line because

1102
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 7: I think he knows what he's trying to accomplish. So

1103
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:05,320
Speaker 7: I like that retention. I thought he'd have a decent market,

1104
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 7: and I can tell you a lot of people thought

1105
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 7: he would sign for a bit more than that. I

1106
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 7: think it's a good deal for Buffalo.

1107
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and if if you get into this, one of

1108
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 1: the reasons the Bills could re signed dayque Jones could

1109
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 1: resigned aj Epenes's They released some guys that I think

1110
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: we're a little surprising for people who are, you know,

1111
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 1: casual observers. At least Mitch Morse gone the way now

1112
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 1: he's in jack Jacksonville. I believe you know, they traded

1113
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 1: Ryan Bates before they let Mitch Morse go, so all

1114
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 1: of a sudden they have. They went from having a

1115
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl center and his backup to neither, and yet

1116
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 1: Connor McGovern slides down. They resigned David Edwards, and all

1117
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 1: of a sudden they're reloaded and ready to go.

1118
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I think, look the trade, you know, for

1119
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 7: the number one forty three overall pick, Like, I really

1120
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 7: think we shouldn't look past that. You know, again, it's

1121
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 7: not a first rounder, but that's a top one fifty

1122
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 7: pick for a guy that you know, Ryan Bates is

1123
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 7: a good player, can play all three interior spots. But

1124
00:57:57,600 --> 00:57:58,959
Speaker 7: they probably thought it was going to be a starter

1125
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 7: when you know, Chica, I try to posch him a

1126
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 7: couple of years ago as an RFA and they match

1127
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 7: that office. She can keep him in town. You bring

1128
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 7: h McGovern and Morse. They're able to work through it.

1129
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 7: He stays, he keeps playing well. So it made you know, Bates,

1130
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 7: I suppose expendable. But yeah, I think it all worked

1131
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 7: out very well. David Edwards, with a very good ram,

1132
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 7: went healthy, a good player. I think that's more the

1133
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 7: story is about his health than his play. But I

1134
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 7: think they are approaching that a smart way, fiscally responsible

1135
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 7: and you get a top one ffy pick.

1136
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 2: Out of it. Looking at the safety spot, you know,

1137
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 2: with Taylor Rapp coming back, that's obviously a continuity signing.

1138
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 2: You get depth in the form of getting Cam Lewis

1139
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 2: back in the fold. Who can you know back up

1140
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 2: Nickel corner, back up at safety and as a gunner

1141
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 2: on special teams. So you get that guy, you know,

1142
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 2: a value player back in the fold too. But there

1143
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 2: are many who believe Sean McDermott values the safety position

1144
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 2: in his defense too much to just rely on some

1145
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 2: draft pick walking in and being your starting free safety

1146
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,919
Speaker 2: behind Rap. But as we know, and I know we've

1147
00:58:56,920 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 2: talked to you about this, there is a glut of

1148
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 2: safety talent still out there in the market. I counted

1149
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 2: twenty nine starters with all the player cuts at the

1150
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 2: safety position alone in free agency. That is a ridiculous

1151
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 2: number where supply is far out weighing demand. So how

1152
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 2: long do you think the Bills can kind of hold

1153
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 2: their water and let the price come down even further.

1154
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:21,919
Speaker 2: We just saw Von Bell sign a one year deal

1155
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 2: for six million in Cincinnati. I think the Bills have

1156
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 2: to wait for that number to get almost cut in

1157
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 2: half before they can land somebody. How long can they

1158
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 2: afford to hold their water and maybe still get a

1159
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 2: capable starting caliber player to maybe play center field for them.

1160
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, they can be very very patient. That was some

1161
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 7: interesting worrying for me and Rappaport. Bell is owed six

1162
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 7: million by the Carolina Panthers. He's not a veteran minimum

1163
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 7: with Cincinnati, so but he's what he's saying is he's

1164
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 7: going to make that amount because you know the guaranteed money.

1165
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 7: But that does speak to it. Right, A very good

1166
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 7: player for a long time gets cut because he has

1167
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 7: some guarantees in twenty twenty four and goes elsewhere for

1168
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 7: a very small deal. We have talked about it. We

1169
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 7: may have talked about Geno Stone in particular, who also

1170
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 7: signs in Cincinnati, led the NFL in interceptions, sign a

1171
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 7: two year, fourteen million dollar contract. So there are still

1172
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 7: plenty of names out there. Jordan Fuller is an interesting piece.

1173
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 7: Julian Blackman, to me, is a very interesting piece with

1174
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 7: the Indianapolis Colts. He's been a deep safety, he's been

1175
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 7: a guy who's played some nickel going back to college.

1176
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 7: Last year played down the box a ton, but could

1177
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 7: go back to be more of that deep ballhawking type.

1178
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 7: So there, Yeah, like you said, I think you can

1179
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 7: sign one of these players potentially for three four million

1180
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 7: dollars in terms of annual average value. There's plenty of

1181
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 7: options left, and I think they're smart to just let

1182
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 7: it play out, let the game of musical chairs continue,

1183
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 7: and then pick their spot.

1184
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:43,439
Speaker 1: One of the other things too about it. We tend

1185
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 1: to talk all day every day about the Bills, but

1186
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 1: they're in this division with Miami, with New England, with

1187
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 1: the Jets. Miami seems to be from up here. It

1188
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 1: seems to be like they're struggling a little bit. They've

1189
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 1: lost some really good players, They've got some cap problems.

1190
01:00:57,800 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 1: They've got They did sign a couple of Buffalo bill

1191
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 1: you know, Saran Neil is down there, Jordan Poyer took

1192
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 1: a one year deal down there. Give us a little

1193
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 1: insight as to maybe where Miami's head and what they're

1194
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 1: working with and how do they you know, are they

1195
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 1: going to get better after this free agency cycle or

1196
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 1: are they going to struggle to fill the voids.

1197
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, they had more of a cap crunch and more

1198
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 7: difficult things to work through than Buffalo because they have

1199
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 7: to pay the quarterback they haven't already done. So Look,

1200
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 7: I actually really like what they have done in terms

1201
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 7: of the additions, I think Aaron Brewer is a good

1202
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 7: is a perfect fit, and that might be Daniel's system

1203
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 7: as a great you know, get to the second level

1204
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 7: in the run blocking scheme center. But he's not as

1205
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 7: good as Connor Williams, who obviously got hurt but was

1206
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 7: a phenomenal center for them. They started to sign you know,

1207
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 7: a starting both guards potentially as well, and then you know,

1208
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 7: you look at the defense. Christian Wilkins is a phenomenal

1209
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 7: football player and sign I mean they deal from the

1210
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 7: Raiders was kind of crazy, but but yeah, so I

1211
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 7: like what they've done. Jordan Brooks, that linebacker is a

1212
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 7: good player for their Jerome Baker replacement. But I think

1213
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 7: it's hard to argue they won't be worse on pay

1214
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 7: or at least, you know, in twenty twenty four then

1215
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 7: they were in twenty twenty three. Even though I do

1216
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 7: like the additions they have made.

1217
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 2: Who overall do you kind of have, at least through

1218
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 2: this first wave of free agency at the top of

1219
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 2: your list in terms of additions made. I know a

1220
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 2: lot of people have been kind of blinded by some

1221
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 2: of the money that Tennessee has thrown around and they've

1222
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 2: certainly improved their roster on the offensive side of the ball. Shocking.

1223
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 2: You know, Brian Callahan's their head coach and they go

1224
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:30,440
Speaker 2: almost all offense. But I really like what Houston has done.

1225
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 2: I think they've really kind of upgraded their roster with

1226
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 2: some of the acquisitions they've made. Who's at the top

1227
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 2: of your list team wise through this first wave?

1228
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, So I'll start with Houston, and I will say

1229
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 7: we talked about the top of the show, like you're

1230
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 7: gonna get free agent grades from a lot of places

1231
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 7: and it's gonna be youhoever just made the biggest splashes.

1232
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 7: It's not how I view It's not how I approach

1233
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 7: it because of historically. But that said, I love the

1234
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 7: the Neil Hunter deal. You get a two year deal.

1235
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 1: CJ.

1236
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 7: Stroud has two years before he becomes eligible for an extension.

1237
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 7: If he plays like he has so far, will be

1238
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 7: the biggest contract in the history of the NFL. So

1239
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 7: you basically bring in an elite edge rusher where in

1240
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 7: theory he's under contract for the two more cheap years

1241
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 7: year quarterback and then you can figure things out. So

1242
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 7: I like that move, But honestly, the Nico Autry for

1243
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:18,439
Speaker 7: two years twenty million. I like even more. Frankly, he's

1244
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 7: a phenomenal player when you bring in the value. He

1245
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 7: can line up all over the defensive line. A base

1246
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 7: three to four end is like a five tech. He

1247
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 7: can kick inside and rush from the three tech on

1248
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 7: money downs. Great great football player. Aziz Al Shaieer was

1249
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:34,920
Speaker 7: also in Tennessee last year, is a monster coming forward,

1250
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 7: plays with those head on fire as an off ball linebacker.

1251
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 7: So I really do like what Houston has done bringing

1252
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 7: back Noah Brown on offense as well. One other one

1253
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 7: for me the Minnesota Vikings. I think they had to

1254
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 7: finally kind of bite the bullet acknowledge that Kirk Cousins

1255
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 7: the timelines did not match up with them, so let

1256
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 7: him go somewhere else, go to Atlanta. And then also

1257
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 7: Danil Hunter. You know again, great player, been there forever,

1258
01:03:57,480 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 7: but the timeline didn't line up. So you get young,

1259
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 7: younger and cheaper. With Jonathan Grenard at edge rusher, you

1260
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 7: had Andrew bank Ginkel who played for Brian Flores their

1261
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 7: defensive coordinator obviously in Miami. And then Blake Cashman had

1262
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 7: a great year last year in Houston as a linebacker too,

1263
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 7: So I think they got younger, they got more athletic

1264
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 7: and more explosive, and saved money. Obviously got to figure

1265
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:19,800
Speaker 7: out the quarterback thing. I think they're going to try

1266
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 7: to trade up in this draft. But I like what

1267
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 7: they've done.

1268
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 1: What team do you feel like is leaving themselves vulnerable

1269
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 1: to all or nothing in the draft? Are they? You know?

1270
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 1: Because they just struggled to fill a glaring hole. Certainly

1271
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:34,440
Speaker 1: there's teams that are depending, you know, at the top

1272
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 1: of the draft, with New England, with Chicago, with the

1273
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 1: top three teams that are going to take a quarterback.

1274
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 1: What other team is vulnerable to you before the draft?

1275
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, there's obviously still some time to make things happen.

1276
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 7: I think it has been interesting. Seattle's never been a

1277
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:52,440
Speaker 7: huge player in free agency, but they really have done

1278
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 7: close to nothing. They've had very few moves. They brought

1279
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 7: back Leonard Williams, who they traded for last year, but

1280
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:00,280
Speaker 7: they got to figure out off ball linebacker. They need

1281
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 7: to figure out safety still, you know, in a more

1282
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 7: meaningful way. There's just there's a lot there on that

1283
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 7: defense they started to work through. So I don't think

1284
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 7: it's like they're like struggling to feel the roster or anything,

1285
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:13,480
Speaker 7: but I'm just surprised how inactive they have been. So

1286
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 7: that's one, and then Jacksonville to a degree. I also

1287
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 7: think the Ridley contract was kind of insane. I get

1288
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 7: not going there, but you now have receiver as a need.

1289
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:25,479
Speaker 7: The offensive line of tackle is still a need, needing

1290
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 7: more pass rush. Like, they just still have all these

1291
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Speaker 7: voids on their roster. Again, not a terrible roster, but

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01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 7: you're trying to compete on Trevor Lawrence's rookie contract and

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01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 7: it just has not been a good approach.

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Speaker 2: Brad, thanks much for bringing us up to speed on

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01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 2: a league wide look at free agency. We appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: We'll catch up with you a little further down the

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Speaker 2: line this offseason. Thanks.

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Speaker 7: That was great.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys.

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Speaker 2: All Right, that's Brad Spielberger from Pro Football Focus who

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01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:54,160
Speaker 2: chops up free agency down to the letter. I mean,

1302
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 2: he's got fits player by player for all the signings

1303
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 2: that have happened, and then he's got team great aids

1304
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 2: all of that stuff at Pro FOOTBALLFOCUSPFF dot com. So

1305
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 2: if you're curious as to what one man's opinion is,

1306
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 2: who really pays attention to this stuff? You can be

1307
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 2: sure to check it out. And yeah, you talk about

1308
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 2: the balance of power in this league and how it

1309
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 2: can shift in free agency if somebody makes shrewd moves,

1310
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 2: and you will look at the AFC South, which really,

1311
01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 2: for the most part was up for grabs. I realized

1312
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:32,800
Speaker 2: that in twenty twenty two, Jacksonville wins the division, not

1313
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 2: by much, but they win the division, and then they

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Speaker 2: win a playoff game and an unbelievable comeback against the Chargers,

1315
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 2: and everybody thinks, Okay, they're top banana in the AFC South.

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01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden, there's competition because CJ.

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01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 2: Stroud ends up being a proven franchise type player in

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01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 2: his rookie year. And who knows, if Anthony Richardson had

1319
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:55,919
Speaker 2: stayed healthy, maybe they have more of that conversation too,

1320
01:06:57,560 --> 01:07:00,480
Speaker 2: you know. And now Tennessee appears to have a franchise

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01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 2: signal caller and Will Levis as well. That could be

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01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 2: a very topsy turvy division going forward, and very quickly

1323
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:12,600
Speaker 2: Jacksonville could see themselves getting passed by one, perhaps two

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01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 2: teams in a very short period of time in that division.

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Speaker 1: That's right, and you know, well, Trevor Lawrence Is. I

1326
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:20,000
Speaker 1: think he's a good quarterback. Let's face he's been a

1327
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 1: little bit of a disappointment given the expectations.

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01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:24,400
Speaker 2: He took a step back last year, that's the thing.

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01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 1: And he didn't ascend. And you got guys that are

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01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 1: coming in, you know, six six months into their NFL

1331
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 1: career out playing him. That's a problem. Yeah, we've talked.

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01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 1: We talked a little bit on the podcast this week

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01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 1: about the AFC South because that's the division the Bills

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01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:50,000
Speaker 1: are playing out of conference. And yeah, young talented quarterbacks

1335
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:52,439
Speaker 1: and three of those two and I like Will Levis too. Yeah,

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01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:55,480
Speaker 1: I like him.

1337
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 2: He's got some moxie.

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01:07:57,360 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a battle down there, and I don't know

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01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 1: if teams are going to live up to those quarterbacks.

1340
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:05,160
Speaker 1: Certainly Houston seemed to seems to be doing that with CJ. Stroud.

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01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 2: They got to play a first play schedule.

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01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:10,080
Speaker 1: Now though Indianapolis, I think the jury's still out on

1343
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:12,680
Speaker 1: those guys didn't play long enough. Yeah, right, and then

1344
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 1: of course, you know Jacksonville they wobbled last year. That

1345
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 1: was inexplicable to me.

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01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:24,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he had three rookie quarterbacks better.

1347
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 1: I think Doug Peterson is still struggling to implement everything

1348
01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 1: he wants to do down there, both offensively and defensively.

1349
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:34,799
Speaker 2: I think, get it together, because yeah, I think you've.

1350
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:37,519
Speaker 1: Got to really you've got to take a step forward

1351
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:41,840
Speaker 1: this year. Last year had to be categorized as a

1352
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:47,559
Speaker 1: disappointment for Jacksonville and and I would look for them

1353
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:49,280
Speaker 1: to improve, but man oh man, it starts on the

1354
01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:50,839
Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball at the quarterback.

1355
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 2: I just lost their best route run.

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01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:55,040
Speaker 1: I can't. I'm surprised that Doug Peterson didn't do a

1357
01:08:55,040 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 1: better job with Trevor Lawrence last year. And I certainly

1358
01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:59,200
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence I think was dragging around a bad wheel

1359
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:00,960
Speaker 1: or something. I think I'd have been injured Nick and

1360
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 1: it was trying and play through it. But so what,

1361
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:09,040
Speaker 1: you gotta win. That division is a problem young quarterbacks.

1362
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 1: It's on the rise, no question about it. C J.

1363
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 1: Stroud I think, right, you know, right now he's the

1364
01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 1: top guy in the division. But man oh man, I'm

1365
01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:20,120
Speaker 1: really intrigued by Anthony Richardson. He's got to learn to

1366
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:24,560
Speaker 1: play better and I mean smarter with his body because.

1367
01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:25,599
Speaker 2: He's got to protect himself.

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01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:28,679
Speaker 1: It's hard for the young guys to understand how valuable

1369
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:32,720
Speaker 1: they are physically just to be available. They can't. You know.

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Speaker 1: Richardson was like Josh back four to fur. Yeah, he's

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01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:41,040
Speaker 1: like Lamar, He's he's on it and he wants the

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Speaker 1: ball in his hands. Yeah, a little too much for

1373
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 1: these days, and we'll see how that that transpires. Will

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01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:50,400
Speaker 1: Levis is intriguing as well, because he does look like Josh,

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01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:56,120
Speaker 1: big tall, rangy farm look at farm kid looking and

1376
01:09:56,200 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 1: with a big arm. Yeah, that that vision is really interesting,

1377
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:03,519
Speaker 1: much more so than we thought that. It wasn't the

1378
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 1: end of last year before last.

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Speaker 2: Year, and the Bills will play him front to back

1380
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 2: this fall. Let's get back to the phones though, at

1381
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:12,599
Speaker 2: Ato three five fifty one eight eight eight five fifty

1382
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:15,160
Speaker 2: two five point fifty, where we are asking you today

1383
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 2: what would be your title for the Bills activity in

1384
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 2: free agents? In free agency to this point Ato three

1385
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 2: five to fifty the number to get on board. But

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01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 2: we go to Mark in West senecon Nex. What's up? Mark?

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Speaker 8: Hi, guys, how are you today?

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01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:28,760
Speaker 2: Good?

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01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:29,519
Speaker 5: Good?

1390
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:30,000
Speaker 8: That's good?

1391
01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 1: Hey.

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01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:34,200
Speaker 8: I would use the word calculated, and I would expect

1393
01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 8: nothing less than that from Brandon Bean moving forward, I

1394
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:42,000
Speaker 8: think that we talked a little bit about this yesterday

1395
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:45,759
Speaker 8: with the Michael Thomas thing, but I still think it's

1396
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:49,519
Speaker 8: it's really important to bring in a veteran wide receiver

1397
01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:51,560
Speaker 8: to mentor any of the kid that kids that you

1398
01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 8: might draft, I actually can get on the field and

1399
01:10:55,200 --> 01:11:00,320
Speaker 8: supplement his his the rookie snaps of the safety things

1400
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:02,559
Speaker 8: a given. You guys have talked about that quite a bit.

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01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 8: I believe that is going to happen. But the thing

1402
01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 8: that you did mention in possibly moving up the board

1403
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:13,000
Speaker 8: this year, and it's killing us now from what I

1404
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:15,040
Speaker 8: can tell that we don't have that third round pick

1405
01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:18,840
Speaker 8: this year, maybe using next year's third round pick, And

1406
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:22,760
Speaker 8: I think that goes against everything Brandon being has ever

1407
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:25,880
Speaker 8: talked about in respect that he always says, we want

1408
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:28,880
Speaker 8: to build this team in a way that it's sustainable

1409
01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 8: and we don't do anything crazy that's going to hurt

1410
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:34,880
Speaker 8: us in future years. And with the draft talent of

1411
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:39,280
Speaker 8: receivers in the draft this year, I would much rather

1412
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:42,760
Speaker 8: him sit comfortably where he is if he can't come

1413
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:45,080
Speaker 8: up with a reasonable deal for a late round pick

1414
01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:48,040
Speaker 8: to move up a few spots, to just leave things

1415
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 8: alone and hold on to those picks. For next year

1416
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:53,360
Speaker 8: because you build your teams through the draft. We all

1417
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:56,320
Speaker 8: know that. I can't think of any team that has

1418
01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:59,800
Speaker 8: ever been built through free agency like Tennessee is trying

1419
01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:03,200
Speaker 8: to right now. You need to draft your guys, develop them,

1420
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:05,919
Speaker 8: and then you know, take advantage of the lower salaries

1421
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:08,960
Speaker 8: early in their career. So I don't think and I

1422
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:12,320
Speaker 8: hope Brandon does not do something like that, dip into

1423
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:15,840
Speaker 8: next year's pool of picks and in order to move up,

1424
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:17,920
Speaker 8: But then he's going to get a good player either way,

1425
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:20,800
Speaker 8: sitting at twenty eight, So it's just my thoughts. Guys.

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01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:21,799
Speaker 8: You guys have a great.

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01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:25,800
Speaker 2: Day, all right, Thanks, Mark, appreciate it. Yeah, it has

1428
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 2: been a calculated approach as we kind of anticipated in

1429
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:31,400
Speaker 2: the free agent market, and I imagine that that approach

1430
01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:34,720
Speaker 2: will continue because it's not like you suddenly flushed with

1431
01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 2: more cap space, although that will be the case come

1432
01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:40,760
Speaker 2: June second, but I would expect the bulk of the

1433
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:45,480
Speaker 2: money saved by making Trey White at June first designation

1434
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 2: is going to be used on their draft class. At

1435
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:50,920
Speaker 2: that point in time, you're gonna need that money to

1436
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 2: sign your draft class. So to think that it would

1437
01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 2: be suddenly used on some late market free agency might

1438
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 2: be a little misguided. And then as far as the

1439
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:06,720
Speaker 2: draft specifically, Yeah, you could sit there at twenty eight

1440
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 2: you're gonna get a good player. I mean, it's a

1441
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 2: deep enough class where you can sit there, bide your

1442
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:16,880
Speaker 2: time and pick a good player. We know that Brandon's

1443
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 2: history is he gets a little eager to get up

1444
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:25,840
Speaker 2: and get a guy that he really wants. And I

1445
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:30,040
Speaker 2: would say the difference is, I mean, now, the difference

1446
01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:35,120
Speaker 2: now is you have a Super Bowl contending team and

1447
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:40,080
Speaker 2: if on your board there is one guy left and

1448
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:44,519
Speaker 2: there's three picks to go, he's going to move to

1449
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:48,639
Speaker 2: make sure he gets that guy. Because if you're three

1450
01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 2: picks away and he's the only guy left on your

1451
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 2: board in that range, he doesn't want to take that

1452
01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:56,599
Speaker 2: chance because then he's gonna have to go the other

1453
01:13:56,600 --> 01:13:59,080
Speaker 2: way and move out. And his history has shown he

1454
01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:01,719
Speaker 2: is more likely to move up to get the guy

1455
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:04,200
Speaker 2: than he is to move out and settle for something else.

1456
01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:07,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I can't you're what you're saying, Mark that

1457
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:11,519
Speaker 1: no team was ever built on free agency. In today's age,

1458
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:14,400
Speaker 1: they're free agency is a fact of life. Everybody uses it,

1459
01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:17,559
Speaker 1: Everybody had signs guys, and particularly in a year like

1460
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:20,280
Speaker 1: they've seen the last couple of years, where all these

1461
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:22,600
Speaker 1: starting safeties are on the market, everybody's gonna grab one

1462
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:25,000
Speaker 1: of those guys. They're they're too valuable not to get,

1463
01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:27,519
Speaker 1: particularly for a cheap price. I think one of the

1464
01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:30,120
Speaker 1: things that's different about this point in Bill's history than

1465
01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:33,720
Speaker 1: we've seen in decades past is that, like Brownie said,

1466
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:36,320
Speaker 1: this is a contender. You've got Josh Allen, one of

1467
01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:38,600
Speaker 1: the elite quarterbacks in the league. You've got an acceptedly

1468
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 1: quality head coach and GM You've got a program here

1469
01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 1: in Buffalo that is attractive and has garnered a really

1470
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:49,920
Speaker 1: good reputation for the way it treats its players. That

1471
01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:51,760
Speaker 1: goes a long way, and Brandon Bean has used that

1472
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:55,760
Speaker 1: to his advantage to sell guys on coming in and

1473
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:59,200
Speaker 1: resetting their career coming in being a part of it.

1474
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:01,160
Speaker 1: Taking a shot at we talked about it earlier in

1475
01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 1: the show, some of these free agents that are sitting

1476
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:05,360
Speaker 1: out there and it's getting laid in the free agency

1477
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 1: market and they're not quite getting the attention or the

1478
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:14,599
Speaker 1: love that they want from other teams. Brandon Bean has

1479
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:16,800
Speaker 1: a lot to sell here. In Buffalo, the culture, the

1480
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:19,280
Speaker 1: way they treat their players, the reputation their coach has

1481
01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:23,640
Speaker 1: about maximizing the roster and never underestimate the fact that

1482
01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:25,840
Speaker 1: the guy is It's easy to talk for a free

1483
01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:27,920
Speaker 1: agent to talk himself into the fact that this team

1484
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:31,000
Speaker 1: might go the distance. They might, they might do it.

1485
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 1: They're gonna be in the conversation at the end of it,

1486
01:15:33,479 --> 01:15:34,840
Speaker 1: and you're gonna have a chance to win at all

1487
01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:37,439
Speaker 1: with this team. And now there's a handful of teams

1488
01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 1: you can say that about. This is one of them.

1489
01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:43,160
Speaker 1: And with all the other stuff that I mentioned, it's

1490
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:48,479
Speaker 1: it's attractive unlike it's never like it's never been. So

1491
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 1: that is working in the Bill's favor, and it helps

1492
01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:54,800
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean be a little bit more patient, and it

1493
01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:58,599
Speaker 1: also helps more guys on his list pick up the

1494
01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:04,160
Speaker 1: phone and say, yeah, what about it all? Listen because

1495
01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:05,920
Speaker 1: in years past, we've all heard stories about going n

1496
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:09,240
Speaker 1: you know on Buffalo's off the table for me, not

1497
01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:11,800
Speaker 1: so much anymore. It's it's right at the It's on

1498
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 1: the front burner for a lot of players before they

1499
01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:17,760
Speaker 1: ever talked to Brandon Bean. So that's different now. And

1500
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:20,040
Speaker 1: while you can't build your entire team through a free

1501
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:22,720
Speaker 1: agency because of the you know, because of the finances,

1502
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:26,240
Speaker 1: you can get better through free agency, and that's that's

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01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:27,760
Speaker 1: what the Bills are trying to do, and they're in

1504
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:30,680
Speaker 1: a better position now than they've ever been to do that.

1505
01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:34,000
Speaker 2: We have to step aside here, but when we come back,

1506
01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:36,640
Speaker 2: we'll crack open the tweets sheets see what some of

1507
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:40,040
Speaker 2: your descriptions are there for Buffalo's activity and free agency

1508
01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:42,360
Speaker 2: thus far, and might even have a little time for

1509
01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 2: some NFL true false all coming up next here on

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Speaker 2: One Bill's Live, presented by Colida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:02,400
Speaker 2: All right, welcome back to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown,

1512
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:04,679
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you. We got a trade to report,

1513
01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:09,360
Speaker 2: as the Falcons and the Cardinals have swung a deal

1514
01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:14,280
Speaker 2: player for player. The Atlanta Falcons send quarterback Desmond Ridder,

1515
01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:18,519
Speaker 2: their starter last year, who's obviously not needed nearly as

1516
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:21,479
Speaker 2: much with Kirk Cousins in the fold. They send Desmond

1517
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:25,479
Speaker 2: Ridder to the Arizona Cardinals in exchange for wide receiver

1518
01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:30,040
Speaker 2: Rondell Moore in a player for player swap. Interesting there,

1519
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:35,240
Speaker 2: I think that says anything about Kyler Murray It probably

1520
01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:37,479
Speaker 2: doesn't because they just signed him to a giant extension

1521
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:39,400
Speaker 2: last year. He's making forty six million.

1522
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:40,680
Speaker 1: A year, a guy who's got a little bit bit

1523
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:42,439
Speaker 1: of experience in as a backup.

1524
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:45,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I guess for Desmond Ridder it would be

1525
01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:47,679
Speaker 2: hard to kind of come back to the Falcons after

1526
01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:51,240
Speaker 2: starting last year and now you're relegated to number two duty.

1527
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:53,640
Speaker 2: That's tough locker room to walk in.

1528
01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 1: Mac Jones got traded.

1529
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:58,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, he got traded last week, early in the week.

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01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:01,559
Speaker 2: I'm just this now, Steve. You've got to work on

1531
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:05,160
Speaker 2: your cash.

1532
01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:05,519
Speaker 1: With my what's wrong with my refresher button here?

1533
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:06,120
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1534
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 1: I knew that.

1535
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:08,400
Speaker 2: You did know that.

1536
01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:10,679
Speaker 1: I told you today. I have to repeat all these

1537
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:13,040
Speaker 1: transactions day after day after day to keep track.

1538
01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:14,880
Speaker 2: That's why I type them into my files. The only

1539
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:16,760
Speaker 2: way I remember them is if I write them down

1540
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:17,439
Speaker 2: or type them in.

1541
01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:19,679
Speaker 1: The season kicks off and I go, oh, my gosh,

1542
01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:21,240
Speaker 1: Mac Jones is on the Jaguars.

1543
01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:23,800
Speaker 2: That's true, he is.

1544
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:26,600
Speaker 1: I can't keep I can't keep track of it.

1545
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:29,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot. There's a lot, no question about it.

1546
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:31,960
Speaker 2: Let's get back to the tweet sheet though, where we

1547
01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:35,479
Speaker 2: asked you how would you title the Bill's activity in

1548
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:39,800
Speaker 2: free agency so far? Simper High on the tweet sheet

1549
01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:43,080
Speaker 2: says they've done almost nothing and are somehow still better

1550
01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 2: than Miami Sabers. Bills ninety two says solid Keeping Jones

1551
01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 2: and AJ is huge. Yeah. I will say this, It

1552
01:18:56,520 --> 01:19:02,240
Speaker 2: may not be the ideal dream scenario for what you

1553
01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:04,120
Speaker 2: hoped they would do to fill the holes on the

1554
01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:07,240
Speaker 2: defensive line, but I'd give it a solid B plus

1555
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:10,679
Speaker 2: in terms of step one of refortifying the defensive line.

1556
01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:12,920
Speaker 1: I'll say this, AJ has gotten a lot of love

1557
01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:15,800
Speaker 1: after he resigned. People are like going, wow, okay. And

1558
01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:18,519
Speaker 1: just before he resigned him during this free agency, we

1559
01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:20,519
Speaker 1: had a couple of calls from fans going to listen,

1560
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 1: they need to keep AJ. And I was a little

1561
01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:25,559
Speaker 1: surprised by that. It's not like this guy's a twelve

1562
01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:29,120
Speaker 1: sack a year guy, not yet. But he's ascending.

1563
01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:30,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's on the way up still. I

1564
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:33,439
Speaker 2: think I still think there's some ceiling for him to reach.

1565
01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:37,599
Speaker 2: And then the second part of that is you say, well,

1566
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:40,120
Speaker 2: what tells you that I said, Well, look at some

1567
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:43,479
Speaker 2: big spots in some of these games that the Bills

1568
01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:45,640
Speaker 2: won last year. I mean, we're watching a sack at

1569
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:47,880
Speaker 2: the end of the game which was largely a one

1570
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:52,280
Speaker 2: score game against the Giants. Last year, the sack and

1571
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:55,240
Speaker 2: rakeout and fumble recovery, the trifect to play against the

1572
01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:59,439
Speaker 2: Jaguars kept the Bills in it. In London, interception your

1573
01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 2: return for touchdown against Washington, Now that was kind of

1574
01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:07,439
Speaker 2: a blowout game. But there were more splash plays from

1575
01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:09,680
Speaker 2: aj Epenes the last year than I think we had

1576
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:13,280
Speaker 2: ever seen from start to finish in a season for him.

1577
01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:17,200
Speaker 2: And I think he's just a late bloomer, and so

1578
01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:22,439
Speaker 2: I think the Bills believe that too. And I'm gonna

1579
01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:24,000
Speaker 2: say this too, and I know I mentioned it on

1580
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:27,519
Speaker 2: our podcast which will be out later today. For this week,

1581
01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:33,519
Speaker 2: I think that he is going to get more snaps

1582
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:37,479
Speaker 2: on defense than he has ever gotten before because the

1583
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:40,439
Speaker 2: deck has been cleared. There's no Shaq laws In stealing

1584
01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:45,599
Speaker 2: snaps from him, there's no Leonard Floyd stealing snaps from him.

1585
01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:49,280
Speaker 2: Von Miller be lucky to play thirty snaps a game

1586
01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:54,519
Speaker 2: at age thirty four, So Ajpiness at age twenty four

1587
01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:58,439
Speaker 2: is going to be playing forty maybe forty five snaps again.

1588
01:20:58,240 --> 01:20:59,840
Speaker 1: And I'll say this to you. Talked a lot about

1589
01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:02,439
Speaker 1: how how he has started to ascend and started to

1590
01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:04,439
Speaker 1: play better and better, and the splash plays are proof

1591
01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:06,679
Speaker 1: of that, and this consistency's proof of that. I'll say

1592
01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:08,960
Speaker 1: this too. We talked a little bit about this yesterday,

1593
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:10,240
Speaker 1: and I don't want to make too much of it

1594
01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:12,759
Speaker 1: because I'd like to talk to some more people about

1595
01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:14,600
Speaker 1: it to see it. But the people I've talked to

1596
01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:18,559
Speaker 1: already that the year these guys got drafted out of

1597
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:23,440
Speaker 1: COVID set them back a year mentally in their development

1598
01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:25,720
Speaker 1: about how to be a pro, how to act, how

1599
01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:28,840
Speaker 1: to do their own program and so. And Epanesa's proof

1600
01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:30,760
Speaker 1: of that. This is coming out last year, and this

1601
01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:34,519
Speaker 1: is his fourth year, right yep, No, yeah, this will

1602
01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:36,439
Speaker 1: be his fifth year. Last year was kind of like

1603
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:39,040
Speaker 1: his third year, right where he kind of said, oh wow, okay,

1604
01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:39,559
Speaker 1: there's the guy.

1605
01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:41,800
Speaker 2: So it looked like he was putting it together exactly.

1606
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:44,600
Speaker 1: And it's a year later than most guys did it.

1607
01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:47,439
Speaker 1: And I and plus he's a young dude coming out

1608
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:50,960
Speaker 1: and he's twenty four. He turned twenty four during his

1609
01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:56,080
Speaker 1: last season. So I think there's reason, just as a

1610
01:21:56,160 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 1: human being to think this guy's got more a higher

1611
01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:02,160
Speaker 1: ceiling than what we've already seen already, and now we'll

1612
01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:05,040
Speaker 1: get a chance to have it happen with the Bills.

1613
01:22:05,439 --> 01:22:07,000
Speaker 1: I think there's something in that. I'm not going to

1614
01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:09,519
Speaker 1: put all my eggs in that basket, and some of

1615
01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:11,840
Speaker 1: it might be just him figuring it out and just

1616
01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:14,519
Speaker 1: playing better and doing better and get him. Remember the

1617
01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:16,080
Speaker 1: first year he came out, he was too eighty. Then

1618
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:17,800
Speaker 1: he was down to like two forty nine, and then

1619
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:19,720
Speaker 1: he was back up. And then you know, it was

1620
01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:21,120
Speaker 1: yo yo and right yo yo, and.

1621
01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:23,439
Speaker 2: Plus to meet the demands of the team saying hey,

1622
01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:24,920
Speaker 2: we need you to be lighter, Hey we you know

1623
01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:25,599
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff.

1624
01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:27,760
Speaker 1: Plus then it was COVID and he you know, you

1625
01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:30,080
Speaker 1: could even say hello to anybody in the locker room.

1626
01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:32,439
Speaker 1: I mean, you're you're kind of on an island as

1627
01:22:32,439 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 1: a player and as a young guy coming out trying

1628
01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:36,800
Speaker 1: to make your way in professional sports. So it was

1629
01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:41,120
Speaker 1: just a really rough year. So it's easy to think, Okay,

1630
01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:43,479
Speaker 1: now he's he's got a chance, and I would we'll

1631
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:46,920
Speaker 1: see what happens this year. But I'm there's reason to

1632
01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:50,720
Speaker 1: believe that there were a lot of external factors that

1633
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:53,000
Speaker 1: hampered his development, and now we're starting to see it.

1634
01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:57,639
Speaker 2: Chris on the tweets sheet says, mild as expected. Now

1635
01:22:57,680 --> 01:23:00,759
Speaker 2: go get that wide receiver in round one, baby, somebody

1636
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:06,920
Speaker 2: else on the receiver trained hop aboard. See jag seventeen says,

1637
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:10,519
Speaker 2: my description of the Bills in free agency would be okay,

1638
01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:13,000
Speaker 2: but I'm a bit nervous when seeing all the other

1639
01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:16,320
Speaker 2: teams making moves. I'd be the first to tell you

1640
01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:19,200
Speaker 2: a lot of times, the teams that make the biggest

1641
01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:23,080
Speaker 2: moves in free agency, they struggle out of the shoot

1642
01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:25,479
Speaker 2: because they have so many new pieces to put together.

1643
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:30,120
Speaker 2: Nothing even clicks until like week seven or eight. And

1644
01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:31,680
Speaker 2: if you don't get off to a good start, you're

1645
01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:33,559
Speaker 2: already behind the eight ball by the time your team

1646
01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:36,320
Speaker 2: starts playing and you know, coalescing.

1647
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:38,120
Speaker 1: And we'll say this though, as a unit. One of

1648
01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:40,560
Speaker 1: the things that we've seen about this coaching staff or

1649
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:43,280
Speaker 1: this head coach anyway, and with different iterations of the

1650
01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:45,920
Speaker 1: staff around him, because it's it's vacillated a little bit

1651
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:49,240
Speaker 1: over the years, he does maximize We've said it a ton.

1652
01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:55,240
Speaker 1: He maximizes the roster. Guys come together fast under Sean McDermott.

1653
01:23:56,479 --> 01:23:58,840
Speaker 1: That's a plus, and I think that's part of the

1654
01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:00,920
Speaker 1: reason why players like playing here. That's part of the

1655
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:04,320
Speaker 1: reason why this coaching staff, in this organization, this program

1656
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:08,720
Speaker 1: has a really good reputation around the NFL. You know,

1657
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:11,120
Speaker 1: the guys that are here and the guys that have

1658
01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:14,240
Speaker 1: been here and left have said a lot of positive

1659
01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:17,960
Speaker 1: things about it. Yeah, and it it goes a long way.

1660
01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:22,840
Speaker 1: And I think even in years where the Bills have

1661
01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:26,840
Speaker 1: added some pieces in free agency, they've come, they've hit

1662
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:29,000
Speaker 1: the ground running when the regular season kicks off.

1663
01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:33,000
Speaker 2: K Bar on the tweets sheet says, taking our medicine

1664
01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:35,519
Speaker 2: because of our camp issues. They are doing what they can.

1665
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:37,760
Speaker 2: I'd feel better with a decent free agent safety in

1666
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:40,000
Speaker 2: the center of the field. As we have discussed at

1667
01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:43,880
Speaker 2: length today, Plenty of talents still out there they can wait. Yeah,

1668
01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:46,679
Speaker 2: even heard Brad Spielberger say, you can take your time

1669
01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:49,800
Speaker 2: with all the safety talent that's out there and find

1670
01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:54,080
Speaker 2: somebody at an affordable price. Doctor m says patient, still

1671
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:58,040
Speaker 2: good players out there we can sign. Eat. Cyber Junkie says,

1672
01:24:58,080 --> 01:25:00,360
Speaker 2: I like that we focused on bringing back key players

1673
01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:03,240
Speaker 2: who had become free agents. The reworking of contracts and

1674
01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:05,720
Speaker 2: seeing the ability not to kick too much money down

1675
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:08,320
Speaker 2: the road was nice. Yeah, they didn't kick all the

1676
01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:11,400
Speaker 2: money down the road on Josh's restructure, so that was encouraging.

1677
01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:16,760
Speaker 2: And then Lisa says, free agency for the Bills sneaky good.

1678
01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:19,599
Speaker 2: We got a vet receiver that can help teach any

1679
01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:25,200
Speaker 2: young rookies. And I believe that Bean isn't done yet, so.

1680
01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:28,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not. They're gonna sign some guys late one

1681
01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:31,080
Speaker 1: year deals. Prove it deals good money, guys will sign

1682
01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:35,559
Speaker 1: up for it, and here we go. Yeah, I'm that's

1683
01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:39,320
Speaker 1: a Brandon Bean staple strategy that has worked extremely well

1684
01:25:39,320 --> 01:25:39,840
Speaker 1: in the past.

1685
01:25:40,479 --> 01:25:42,720
Speaker 2: We are going to step aside here. We got one

1686
01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:44,960
Speaker 2: segment to go here on One Bill's Live. Stay tuned

1687
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:46,720
Speaker 2: for that is we get some final thoughts on the

1688
01:25:46,760 --> 01:26:03,080
Speaker 2: tweet sheet next. All right, welcome back to One Bills Live.

1689
01:26:03,160 --> 01:26:06,640
Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, and we hope that

1690
01:26:06,720 --> 01:26:10,360
Speaker 2: some of the reports if players signings become official. We

1691
01:26:10,479 --> 01:26:14,519
Speaker 2: had those come down yesterday. Nicholas morro, the linebacker from

1692
01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:17,160
Speaker 2: the Eagles, reportedly set to sign with the Bills, as

1693
01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:20,800
Speaker 2: well as wide receiver Mac Hollins. Team has yet to

1694
01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:23,160
Speaker 2: make those official. Will see if and when that happens.

1695
01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:27,840
Speaker 2: There's usually a lag because the players have to get

1696
01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:32,120
Speaker 2: in past physicals and then formally sign contracts. So that's

1697
01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:34,759
Speaker 2: why there usually is some lag time between the reports

1698
01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:38,439
Speaker 2: and the actual confirmation from a team. So hopefully those

1699
01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:41,599
Speaker 2: do come down and get confirmed. And as we said,

1700
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:44,439
Speaker 2: the report today that Ty Johnson is going to re

1701
01:26:44,520 --> 01:26:47,479
Speaker 2: sign with the Bills would be good news, welcome news

1702
01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:52,680
Speaker 2: as well. Not a good running back draft by most accounts,

1703
01:26:53,640 --> 01:26:57,120
Speaker 2: you don't have superstars like Bjeon Robinson in this class

1704
01:26:57,120 --> 01:26:59,439
Speaker 2: at the running back position. They are capable players you

1705
01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:01,400
Speaker 2: want to draft in the third, fourth, fifth, sixth round,

1706
01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:04,840
Speaker 2: you know, as a as a backfiller on your roster.

1707
01:27:04,920 --> 01:27:06,439
Speaker 2: And you know, I'll listen to that. You can always

1708
01:27:06,439 --> 01:27:07,120
Speaker 2: find those guys.

1709
01:27:07,240 --> 01:27:10,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, you get down, you get down into the fourth, fifth,

1710
01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:14,240
Speaker 1: sixth round, seventh round, whatever. You're looking for the best

1711
01:27:14,280 --> 01:27:16,360
Speaker 1: player that's gonna have the best pro career, no matter

1712
01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:18,760
Speaker 1: what position he plays. By that time, you should have

1713
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:20,200
Speaker 1: your roster filled out.

1714
01:27:20,280 --> 01:27:23,280
Speaker 2: And I'll too Brandon Bean's horn one more time here.

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01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:28,200
Speaker 2: He's done uncommonly well in the late rounds. So when

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01:27:28,200 --> 01:27:31,519
Speaker 2: you think about players that are no longer on this roster,

1717
01:27:31,640 --> 01:27:34,080
Speaker 2: couldn't make this roster because it was too hard to make.

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01:27:34,479 --> 01:27:37,880
Speaker 2: They're still in the league. Yeah. Yeah, like Jack Anderson,

1719
01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:41,080
Speaker 2: who was that center guard they drafted in the seventh round.

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01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:44,120
Speaker 2: I want to say, he got poached by the Eagles

1721
01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:47,680
Speaker 2: and right now he's with the Colts and they just

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01:27:47,800 --> 01:27:49,840
Speaker 2: re signed him. He's a restricted free agent. He's been

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01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:52,320
Speaker 2: in the league three years already and he's still playing.

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01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:56,320
Speaker 1: They So yeah, that's that's it, and that's what you do.

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01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:58,479
Speaker 1: You look at players who you know, this guy is

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01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:01,439
Speaker 1: gonna be a good pro well, and this guy's a

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01:28:01,479 --> 01:28:03,160
Speaker 1: position we kind of need, would like to see it,

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01:28:03,240 --> 01:28:05,280
Speaker 1: but this guy's going to be a really good Take him.

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01:28:05,520 --> 01:28:07,720
Speaker 2: Alex Austin was a seventh round pick last year. He

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01:28:07,840 --> 01:28:09,240
Speaker 2: just re signed in New England's right.

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01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:12,800
Speaker 1: It's sway it is. You get down into the second

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01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:15,160
Speaker 1: and third day of the draft. You find these guys

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01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:17,120
Speaker 1: that have the traits and the character to be a

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01:28:17,160 --> 01:28:19,559
Speaker 1: good player. Those are the guys you'd take and then

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01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:20,960
Speaker 1: you hope they do it for you.

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01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:24,760
Speaker 2: Here's the good news this year, the Bills want to

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01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:26,880
Speaker 2: hit on those late round draft picks. Because I think

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01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:29,360
Speaker 2: with the youth movement of foot here, they have a

1739
01:28:29,400 --> 01:28:31,880
Speaker 2: better chance of sticking on the fifty three man roster

1740
01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:33,960
Speaker 2: this year like previous years.

1741
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:35,680
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it was like trying to make a

1742
01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:38,439
Speaker 1: Super Bowl team last year. They were so deep and

1743
01:28:38,479 --> 01:28:40,400
Speaker 1: so thick at all these positions had a better chance

1744
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:42,640
Speaker 1: of making it. Now they got a chance at a

1745
01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:44,599
Speaker 1: bunch of da and that means guys like Justin Shorter

1746
01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:46,519
Speaker 1: and Terrell Shavers as well, they got a chance.

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01:28:46,600 --> 01:28:50,599
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely so. I think it's going to present an

1748
01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:54,800
Speaker 2: interesting new dynamic to the roster that we probably haven't

1749
01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:58,800
Speaker 2: seen here since the drought years, you know, when yeah,

1750
01:28:59,240 --> 01:29:01,599
Speaker 2: half the guys had that you brought in that were undrafted,

1751
01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:03,640
Speaker 2: had a shot at making the roster, you know what

1752
01:29:03,800 --> 01:29:06,160
Speaker 2: I mean. I don't want to get all the way

1753
01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:08,640
Speaker 2: back there, but it will bring an interesting element to

1754
01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:11,479
Speaker 2: training camp and trying to find, you know, who are

1755
01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:14,479
Speaker 2: those last five or six guys on the bubble fighting

1756
01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:16,639
Speaker 2: for a roster spot. I think more of those guys

1757
01:29:16,960 --> 01:29:19,479
Speaker 2: are going to be rookies this year than we've seen

1758
01:29:19,640 --> 01:29:22,080
Speaker 2: in previous years. It's certainly going to make for an

1759
01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:24,920
Speaker 2: interesting race to the back end of the fifty three

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01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:27,840
Speaker 2: man roster, a training camp, and the preseason. That's it

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Speaker 2: for us today. Steve and I will wrap up the week.

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01:29:31,360 --> 01:29:33,400
Speaker 2: Tomorrow we'll see what other Bills news we can bring

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01:29:33,479 --> 01:29:35,679
Speaker 2: your way. See if those guys up in the Personnel

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01:29:35,720 --> 01:29:39,320
Speaker 2: Officer staying busy, We trust that they are. Thanks for listening.

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Speaker 2: We'll catch you tomorrow here on One Bill's Live