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Speaker 1: We are joined by Brady Quinney, is the host of

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Speaker 1: doing at six to nine am Eastern. That's that's tough

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Speaker 3: I'm on East coast time. I've always worked promote from

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Speaker 3: Really just he's got two kids at Penn State, and

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Speaker 4: Yes, Brady, I was listening to the show this morning,

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Speaker 4: So it's like, why would I want to buy Kobe's

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Speaker 1: I would defend LeVar Arrington from this standpoint. You could

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Speaker 1: But Brady, imagine this, the Steelers don't get to five

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Speaker 1: This is a great opportunity for You're so right, because

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Speaker 3: They always should have been ahead. We never should have

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Speaker 3: just the committee that that's unfortunately the position these thirteen

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Speaker 3: You're not gonna make everyone happy by their own criteria.

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Speaker 2: Sure, Miami lost that final game.

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Speaker 2: Eliminate those two give me Notre Dame.

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Speaker 3: And so when you don't have that as part of that,

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Speaker 3: And once that opportunity wasn't there for you, or wasn't

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Speaker 3: you just were in the National championshiam in last year.

437
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Speaker 3: This team's better than last year's team. Yes, and you

438
00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,560
Speaker 3: were that close to hoisting an actual trophy and not

439
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Speaker 3: eating a gigantic pop tart that comes out of a

440
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Speaker 3: fake up.

441
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Speaker 2: Do you do? You throw the pop tart at the toaster?

442
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Speaker 2: You have to write, I mean, yeah, here's.

443
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Speaker 3: If you're gonna do it, do it right like. That's

444
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Speaker 3: that's how I always say with the pop start. And

445
00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,040
Speaker 3: people have pushed back on strawberry. I don't, I don't.

446
00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:42,800
Speaker 3: I'm not against strawberry. I think it's the number two

447
00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,800
Speaker 3: flavor personally. Yes, I just think Brad sugar and cinnamon

448
00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:47,400
Speaker 3: was the best with like a nice glass of milk.

449
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Speaker 2: Yes, I agree with you.

450
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Speaker 1: Here's the here's the funny thing about this and Notre

451
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Speaker 1: Dame and not playing in their bowl game.

452
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Speaker 2: I understand it.

453
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Speaker 1: From this standpoint, it feels like the committee was actually

454
00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,959
Speaker 1: fucking with Notre Dame the entire season and they got

455
00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:02,719
Speaker 1: the rug pulled out.

456
00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:03,720
Speaker 2: They were upset about it.

457
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Speaker 3: You know. Yeah, there's elements of that, without a doubt

458
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Speaker 3: that I mean this, I mean, this entire process is

459
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Speaker 3: controlled by ESPN and Disney, and just to compare it

460
00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,199
Speaker 3: to the NFL, because that's where college football is going.

461
00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,720
Speaker 3: It's more of a professionalized model. You know, what you

462
00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:20,639
Speaker 3: have is an NFL that controls all of it, right,

463
00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:22,879
Speaker 3: and they kind of say, hey, we're we're we decide

464
00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,800
Speaker 3: who gets in access of this and who doesn't. It's

465
00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,679
Speaker 3: entirely different with college football. I mean, this is all

466
00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:32,760
Speaker 3: on ESPN creation, a Disney creation. So I think that's

467
00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,040
Speaker 3: where they feel like there's a big sense of bias.

468
00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,439
Speaker 3: I mean, let's just go back before the season, they

469
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Speaker 3: talked about the committee changing the criteria and how they

470
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Speaker 3: evaluate schedules, because what do we have last year to playoff?

471
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Speaker 3: Only three SEC teams and they all got stopped for

472
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Speaker 3: the most part besides Texas that at least made its

473
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Speaker 3: way to what the semi final round so and and

474
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Speaker 3: by the way, barely made it there. Yes, So when

475
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Speaker 3: you look at the landscape, I think the secs, why

476
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,840
Speaker 3: the Big Ten? Now when the last two national championships

477
00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,520
Speaker 3: there's a lot more money and some of these Big

478
00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,919
Speaker 3: Ten programs they're starting to distance themselves and you look

479
00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,000
Speaker 3: at their media rights deal, same thing they keep kind

480
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,159
Speaker 3: of distancing themselves. I think there's a concern for the

481
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Speaker 3: products that ESPN has in the SEC and ACC. The

482
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,840
Speaker 3: SEC has done a tremendous job in ratings, but the

483
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,119
Speaker 3: ACC has kind of fallen by the wayside, and I

484
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,359
Speaker 3: think in looking at how they try to stack the

485
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Speaker 3: deck to get the SEC and their story back on

486
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Speaker 3: top of college football, you find a way of finagling five,

487
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Speaker 3: you know, teams into the playoff this year. And what's

488
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Speaker 3: interesting about it when we talked about the ACC's criteria,

489
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Speaker 3: which is obviously, you know, primarily owned and distributed by

490
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Speaker 3: the ESPN. You know, we talked about their conference championship

491
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Speaker 3: playoff criteria. Look at the criteria for the teams that

492
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Speaker 3: get the auto bids in that are conference champions, like

493
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 3: this whole jam you Tulane went in the AC. That's

494
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Speaker 3: also part of the issue that I have with how

495
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Speaker 3: we've construct did which five conference champions get in? Right?

496
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Speaker 3: So you could also put in language there that kind

497
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Speaker 3: of protects some of those power for teams, but you didn't, right, So,

498
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Speaker 3: you know, I realized it's only.

499
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Speaker 2: Good they're making it up if they go along, Brady,

500
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Speaker 2: That's why, which is exactly what it is.

501
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Speaker 3: That's that's the reality of what it is. There's there's

502
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,120
Speaker 3: all sorts of hypocritical talk. At some point in time.

503
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Speaker 3: It's a made for TV event throughout the course of

504
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Speaker 3: the season. Otherwise, why would you tune in so, you know,

505
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:32,399
Speaker 3: you look at for example, they don't like having, you know, rematches. Okay,

506
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,040
Speaker 3: well you got that. Look, we already watched Ole Miss

507
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Speaker 3: and Tulane. We've got in the first round almost one.

508
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Speaker 3: By thirty five, we've got Alabama Oklahoma already watched that one.

509
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Speaker 1: Yes, I got to tell you, there's nothing more I

510
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,359
Speaker 1: want to see than Notre Dame in Miami again in

511
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Speaker 1: the first round.

512
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Speaker 2: Yes.

513
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Speaker 3: So Chris Philika brought this up and he said, the

514
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Speaker 3: greatest thing that the committee could have done was you

515
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,680
Speaker 3: bounce out Bama. No look in no disrespect to Bama.

516
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,359
Speaker 3: I know a lot of BAMA and SEC fans who're

517
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Speaker 3: like trumpet for Bama, which is always the weirdest thing

518
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 3: for But anyway, they can't run, they can't stop them run,

519
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:05,479
Speaker 3: and you know they could be a very easily won

520
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,160
Speaker 3: and done. They lost to Oklahoma the last time around.

521
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,120
Speaker 3: We'll see what happens. But you could have put Notre

522
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 3: Dame versus Miami into Miami and like, bring it back

523
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 3: and completely get the College Ball Playoff Committee off the hook.

524
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Speaker 3: But why didn't you do that? You didn't want to.

525
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,119
Speaker 3: You didn't want to drop Bama out of the SEC.

526
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 3: You know, mix of teams that could play for a

527
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,679
Speaker 3: national championship. And as much as you know, I sit

528
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 3: there and say, is their separation between the committee and ESPN. Sure,

529
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 3: but it also lends itself to the conspiracy theories that

530
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 3: are out there because it's hard to make a case

531
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Speaker 3: for a team that went two and two and it's

532
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:43,160
Speaker 3: last four, got absolutely drummed in the SEC championship game

533
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 3: and watched every other team conference championship weekend drop that lost.

534
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Speaker 3: But then and then you watch how they jumped them

535
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Speaker 3: ahead of Notre Dame after both teams won in the

536
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Speaker 3: final regular season weekend and they barely squeaked by a

537
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Speaker 3: five and seventeen. So I could go on for a day.

538
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Speaker 3: I know you can look at Yes, if you look

539
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 3: at old Missus, you know what they've accomplished this year.

540
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,120
Speaker 3: I think they played four teams with winning records. Yeah,

541
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 3: like like seriously, if you're looking at like what they

542
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,679
Speaker 3: were able to accomplish. That's it. I know they're one

543
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,360
Speaker 3: loss team, but it's not like they played murderers Row. Yes,

544
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,400
Speaker 3: but yet they're ranked all the way up at six,

545
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 3: even if in Texas A and M we had a

546
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 3: better resume. I mean, the whole thing is kind of

547
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 3: wild if you actually like look at it. But again,

548
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 3: I go back to more frustrating with the process of

549
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 3: how we got to where we got and even the

550
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Speaker 3: fact that it's not a level playing field between all

551
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 3: conference champs and how we go about determining it. Should

552
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 3: we even have conference championship games anymore? If you're not

553
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 3: going to be dealed with a loss like Dama wasn't

554
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 3: and then you win it like Duke, but then you're

555
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 3: not rewarded for it. Like, what's kind of the point?

556
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Speaker 1: Yes, Taylor has a question here, we'll get to Michigan.

557
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Speaker 2: But I will tell you this, if you have a

558
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,119
Speaker 2: couple of days, Taylor and I will sit here.

559
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Speaker 1: If you just want to keep going, and you have

560
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,159
Speaker 1: an entire weekend to spend with us, we'll sit here

561
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Speaker 1: and record.

562
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Speaker 3: Man. I mean, I I mean, it's again, it's not

563
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,199
Speaker 3: just about Notary. I think Byu had a bet has

564
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,439
Speaker 3: a great versus man as well. Like BYU said, we're.

565
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Speaker 1: Not putting the right teams in of the ten team

566
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Speaker 1: take AMU into lane out of it. Of the ten teams,

567
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 1: there's only like five of them who could win it,

568
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,400
Speaker 1: and we have one team who could win it who's

569
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 1: not playing for it.

570
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 2: It's a mess.

571
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Speaker 3: And Notre Dame. It could be one of those teams

572
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 3: by US think had a better resume providence some of

573
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 3: those SEC teams, but again it's the bias towards the

574
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 3: SEC just five and because they're hoping that one of

575
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Speaker 3: those wins the national championship and they could say they're

576
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Speaker 3: back on SOCCA college football.

577
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Speaker 1: It's amazing how BYU's championship game impacted them getting into

578
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Speaker 1: the playoffs.

579
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Speaker 2: It's unbelievable.

580
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Speaker 4: What do we doing on the list of complaints?

581
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 2: Brady?

582
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 4: Where is the ACC network replaying the Miami Notre Dame

583
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 4: game on loop for days?

584
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 2: Oh? He's got days.

585
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,439
Speaker 3: So that's one of the things that I think if

586
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 3: you're Jim Phillips and the ACC is that your normal programming,

587
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 3: but it doesn't feel like it. So that's what I

588
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 3: would point out as a Notre Dame fan, Like you

589
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,159
Speaker 3: can't come out and say that you're not politicking or

590
00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,199
Speaker 3: doing something out of the ordinary to present why MYAMI

591
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 3: should have been an overhead that I could care less

592
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 3: about social media? Like do you always got someone who's

593
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 3: got great wit and humor that's going to take shots

594
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 3: and do what they do on social media? So that

595
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 3: just that's a different world. Yeah. By the way, no

596
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 3: one wins in that world. So like taking that approach

597
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 3: to saying, well, they politiced against us and on social media,

598
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 3: that's not the angle I would take. I would say

599
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 3: is does the ACC network in the past five years

600
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 3: have they played on repeat a game with one opponent

601
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 3: verse another for two or three days? String If they haven't,

602
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:33,880
Speaker 3: then it feels a little bit out of the ordinary.

603
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,640
Speaker 3: And also, but I also say this, like I'm also

604
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 3: not going to like harp on it because we're not

605
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 3: a full member of the ACCU. The twenty four other

606
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 3: sports that are in the acc that is a it

607
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 3: has nothing to do with them. So you're a partial

608
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 3: member and you subject yourself to taking on whatever you

609
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 3: take on as an independent, one of only two independents

610
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 3: left in college football. It is kind of Notre Dame

611
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 3: against everyone else. It's kind of how it's always been.

612
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,439
Speaker 3: If you go through the history of how Notre Dame

613
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 3: got its independence, it's deeply tied to you know, Catholicism,

614
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 3: and you know the Western Conference, which was the Big

615
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 3: ten conference, not allowing Notre Dame to come into the

616
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 3: Western Conference back then. There's a lot of anti catholic

617
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 3: sentiment in the country at that time. And so part

618
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 3: of the history of why Notre Dame became such a

619
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 3: national brand was they had to travel nationally to play

620
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 3: teams and that's because they held so near and dear

621
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 3: their faith, their spiritualted to Catholicism. So people have to understand,

622
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 3: like it's a deeply rooted thing for Notre Dame to

623
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 3: remain independent as long as they can. And I think

624
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 3: because of the NBC contract they still have a chance

625
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,400
Speaker 3: to play for national championship. They're going to stay independent.

626
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 4: I respect to move from the ACC network only because

627
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 4: at my house I have the North Carolina TCU first

628
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 4: drive on Loop.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I texted them afterwards. I said, they're winning the

630
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 1: national championship.

631
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Speaker 2: So that's.

632
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 3: A seriousness. Let's take that moment. Okay, if you would

633
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 3: have told me after that first drive, the UNC was

634
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 3: going to Crater the way they were with arguably the

635
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 3: greatest head football coach ever fatal history. Maybe crazy, Yes,

636
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 3: that Indiana was gonna beat Olehive State for the Big

637
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 3: Ten championship and the number one team at the country

638
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 3: going into the playoffs. Sharon Moore was going to get fired,

639
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 3: is going through everything that he's going through right now.

640
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 3: And James Franklin was going to get fired like five

641
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 3: weeks later, a team that was what number one, number

642
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 3: two in some bowls going into I mean, I don't

643
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 3: know what that parley would have been. It has to

644
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 3: be worth like trillions of dollars because none of that

645
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 3: seemed possible, right, and.

646
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 4: Then you just sprinkle in, Lane Kiffin tell us you, yeah.

647
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 2: All of it.

648
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: That's not surprising, though surprising at all, wild car Like,

649
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: that's the.

650
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Speaker 3: Least surprising part. Wlayane Tiffin's gonna do something crazy at

651
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 3: some point in the season. That's like minus eight hundred.

652
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: I think it was minus eight thousand, to be honest. Yeah, crazy.

653
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Speaker 1: You led me to Michigan up perfectly, So thank you.

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Speaker 1: You did the transition there. What I'm surprised about with

655
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Speaker 1: Sharon Moore. Listen, what happened afterwards is scary. There's no

656
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: reason to comment on it, because I don't think anyone

657
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: really knows what's going on inside the head of Charon More.

658
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Speaker 1: But what surprised me about the story is that college

659
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: football insiders were not surprised because they have heard for

660
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: a while what was going on inside the Michigan program.

661
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 1: Had you been hearing about what's going on with Jaron Moore?

662
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Speaker 3: I first got wind of an investigation back in October

663
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 3: when we were there for Michigan Wisconsin, And that was

664
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Speaker 3: when I first heard about it. And typically, you know,

665
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 3: I'm a little bit skeptical. I'm cynical by nature. Sure

666
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 3: when I hear these sorts of things, I always feel

667
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 3: as if, Okay, there's someone who's got a lot of money,

668
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 3: that's an alum that isn't a fan of Shrunmore, isn't

669
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 3: a fan of where the program's going at this point,

670
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 3: and they're trying to fire them with costs. You know,

671
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 3: there's other examples I could use. I'm not going to

672
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 3: go there, but I think we don't have to look

673
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 3: at any further than Big ten. You can see some

674
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 3: of those examples. So that was when I heard it.

675
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 3: My initial thought was this was a coach that was

676
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 3: hired because of the time move. When Horball left, there

677
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 3: wasn't a formal head coaching search done for what is

678
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 3: one of the best brands programs in college football history.

679
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 3: And they don't like the program that won a national

680
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 3: championship two years ago and feels like it's not headed

681
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 3: in the right direction with where Sharon Moore has them.

682
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 3: And I also think there's a bit of a thought

683
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 3: too that they want to move past all the counterstalling stuff,

684
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 3: and you know, Sharon's still going to have to serve

685
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 3: part of that penalty to begin the opener or was

686
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 3: going to, but to begin the opener in twenty twenty six,

687
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 3: and so there coaches who were involved that are like

688
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 3: under a show cause they did twenty twenty six. So

689
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 3: I think there's a thought that, like, maybe we need

690
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 3: a clean slate, a traditional head coaching search to find

691
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 3: like our next guy. So that was what was all

692
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 3: going through my head, and then I was just kind

693
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 3: of closely paying attention to how they continued to progress

694
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 3: to see if that changed. And it does feel odd

695
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 3: that the timing of all this, given that you got

696
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 3: to wonder if they would have beat Ohio State and

697
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 3: gone to the playoff, would this have come to the forefront?

698
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 3: You know, this team was probably not. I mean that's

699
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 3: that's unfortunately how sports works, and especially when talking about

700
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 3: big dollars and money like this. But I had a

701
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 3: lot of conversations with Dave Portnoy about this. I told

702
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 3: him like, hey, you probably should have a short list

703
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 3: in the back of your mind based on things that

704
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 3: I'm hearing, and he was not hearing any of it

705
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 3: until yeah, that's what happens.

706
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 2: Yes, So if you're a Michigan, who would you tell

707
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 2: I know, you have to run here. We appreciate the time.

708
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 2: If you're Michigan, who would you turn to here? What

709
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 2: would you do in terms of your of your head

710
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 2: coaching search? Is it?

711
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: Is it find the guy right now for the next

712
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: ten years or do you just try to find a

713
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: bridge to get you to the coach that you want.

714
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 3: No, I think you find the guy that you feel

715
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 3: like can help you win a national championship, get you

716
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 3: back on course for that.

717
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 2: And my philosophy quarterback is there Yeah.

718
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 3: Well he's there for now. And that's why Tommy of

719
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 3: this time is too right, Like, once you hire a

720
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 3: permanent head coach. There's that delay in that window of

721
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 3: like an acclamation period and the opportunity for players to

722
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 3: talk to the coach. Then you have a five day

723
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 3: period in which they can and it's open season for transferring.

724
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 3: And if you time that up with the transfer portal window,

725
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 3: which starts after January of this year, there's only one

726
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 3: that would be ideal for Michigan because if you are

727
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 3: gonna lose players to whoever that new coach is, at

728
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 3: least you have the opportunity to use that window to

729
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 3: then fill it back in with players. If you wait

730
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 3: until after that window, you're gonna get perched. I mean,

731
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 3: there's gonna be some guys who go to other places

732
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 3: for higher dollars. There's nothing you can do about it.

733
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 3: So the timing of all this is going to be

734
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 3: crucial for Michigan. I would always ask guys. And that's funny,

735
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 3: like I said this to Clack the other day. Next

736
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 3: thing you know, it ends up on his podcast. But

737
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 3: I always tell you ask the next statement you ask

738
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 3: urban Meyer, you make them, you make them say no

739
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 3: to you, and you go on to guys who are

740
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 3: currently in this position. Kirby smorro at dan Land and

741
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 3: Kirk Signetti. Those are the next five, and you're not

742
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 3: offering the contract right away. You're just trying to gauge

743
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 3: a sense of if they would be willing to do this,

744
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 3: and this is what it would look like in paying

745
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 3: that picture. After that set of coaches, I think I

746
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 3: then go to guys that maybe see a bit more obtainable.

747
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,239
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying that for any other reason. Then

748
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 3: this is Michigan. They've got a lot of money, it's

749
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,479
Speaker 3: an historic brand, and I think when you look at

750
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 3: their case for being back on top of the Big ten,

751
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 3: it's probably an easier path than it is for Clarkleet Vanderbilt,

752
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 3: Mike Elko at Texas, and m Tony Elliot at UVA.

753
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 3: Like those are three names and guys that I would

754
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 3: go after. I would target that make a lot of

755
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 3: sense through to Dave Porto. I think Dion would be

756
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 3: really interesting to see what he could do.

757
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 2: With Everyone has a job like a year and a

758
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 2: half ago would be his that's it.

759
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it would have been really interesting. And I still

760
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 3: think it's interesting if you brought coach Prime to Michigan

761
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 3: and that brand and everything else with it. I don't

762
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 3: know if he wants to do that, but he would

763
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 3: be another guy I'd probably want to have a conversation

764
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,239
Speaker 3: with Gage's interest and go from there. And I think

765
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 3: Brian Kelly, like Brian Kelly is the one guy who's

766
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 3: out there. I don't know what his passion is, to

767
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 3: not coach, but recruit like that's that was the ise

768
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 3: a Notre Dame when he left, and you see how

769
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 3: Marcus is taking it up a naxalty left. That was

770
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 3: the issue at LSU right to be quite frankman, And

771
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 3: this is something that I would tell him if we

772
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,399
Speaker 3: were sitting cross across from one another. He's a great

773
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 3: He's a great coach. It comes down to does he

774
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 3: want to compete in recruiting the way I think you

775
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 3: have to in today's college football world. And if he does,

776
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 3: or if they have the resources to do so, then

777
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 3: I think he'd be another name that you'd got to

778
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 3: bring in and I think he'd make you competitive right away.

779
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,720
Speaker 1: Urban Meyer would be one of the all time badass

780
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: moves in the history of sports.

781
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 2: If he took from working with.

782
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 3: Him, you'd have to pay him a bootload, all right.

783
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 3: You have to pay him probably upwards of fifteen to

784
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 3: twenty million. So it's like people look at the contract

785
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 3: and go, yeah, I understand that. Okay, all right, at

786
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 3: every clause where he gets paid, no matter what, the

787
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 3: whole thing like, that's how you'd have to do it.

788
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 2: Oh my god, can we make it happen? How do

789
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 2: we make this happen? I want to every mind.

790
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 3: I mean, if you have a very very wealthy donor,

791
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 3: right Larry Ellison's listen.

792
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 1: He was a great coach. He was a great coach

793
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 1: before all the transfer portal and the money. I mean,

794
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: imagine him in this environment. Oh woity, you fucking tear

795
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 1: it up.

796
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 2: Jesus.

797
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 4: If I'm a Michigan, if I'm a Michigan fan, I'm

798
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 4: worried about urban Meyer coming in there like a trojan

799
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 4: horse and sinking my program.

800
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 2: Uh you know he would do that, No way, not if.

801
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 3: You're paying him twenty million a year.

802
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 2: Yes, ye see, Ryan Day, Yeah, I want to keep

803
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 2: doing doing this for a long time.

804
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 3: So it's salacious. I don't see that reality every coming

805
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 3: to fruition. But I would say this, everyone's got a price.

806
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 3: And if you're a Michigan you have that much money,

807
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 3: there you go.

808
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,879
Speaker 1: Yep, two pros and a cup of joe every morning

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00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 1: six to nine am. Fox Sports Radio, Brady Quinn, we

810
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: appreciate the time, my friend. Let's get LeVar on next week.

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Speaker 1: Let's negotiate those those game Warden Vince carters for Taylor.

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00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, well I think we can do that.

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00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go grab a pop tart, yeah, bron sugar cinnamon.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go get one.

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