1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to the program that gets you 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: in touch with your Houston Texans and on a playoff week, 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 1: my goodness, two days away from all the activity here 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 1: at NRG Stadium where the Hunday Texans radio studio. Mark 5 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:16,159 Speaker 1: vandermer with you with the General John McLean from the 6 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: Houston Chronicle. John, playoff football. You tweeted it, you said it. 7 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 1: There's nothing like it. Here we go. There is nothing 8 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: like it. This time last year we were writing the 9 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: post mortem on the season, which was a disaster because 10 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: of injuries. Four twelve. Now Indianapolis is coming to NRG Stadium, 11 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: first time the Texans to play the team three times. 12 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: I'm not so sure this is the best one to 13 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: play three times, but it is what it is. Two 14 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 1: great games in regular season. I think I don't see 15 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: any reason this is not going to be a great game. 16 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: And I'm still kind of mystified that the NFL would 17 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: put that, they would the ESPN would put this game 18 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: in the worst time slot for the playoffs. It's almost 19 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: like first Round Texans early Saturday, no matter either play 20 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: or how good and exciting they are. I totally understood 21 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 1: the Bears and the Cowboys getting the later games right. 22 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: But I didn't understand stand the Baltimore Chargers game because 23 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: the Chargers have no fans. They don't they're seven to 24 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: one on the road. They have no fans in LA. 25 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 1: I don't know how many people San Diego will watch them. 26 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 1: They certainly didn't go to games. And then Baltimore is 27 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: such a smaller market than Houston is. But hey, you know, 28 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 1: you assume they know what they're talking about. Yeah, they might, 29 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: because the top fifty television shows of the year, or 30 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: the top fifty sports broadcasts, I should say, they were 31 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: all either football games or Olympic events. That's it. I mean, 32 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: that's incredible when you think of it right there, I 33 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: mean more than the NBA MLB. They didn't. No Major 34 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: League Baseball or NBA broadcast made the top fifty. Surprised 35 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: me at all. It might shock people like Mark Cuban 36 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: and Darryl Morey who predicted the NFL was gonna go down. 37 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: Of course, the NFL ratings went up. They did. One 38 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: reason is because of great young quarterbacks like Deshaun Watson 39 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: and Lamar Jackson. And it's funny, wasn't this thing The 40 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: top six highest paid quarterbacks are not. Yeah, yeah, well, 41 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: you have so many good young ones right now, and 42 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: then you have Brady who takes less money and everything 43 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: like that, so you do a breeze in the playoffs. 44 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: But Andrew Luck is kind of the forgotten man here. 45 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: He's not young, he's not old, he's in between, and 46 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 1: he's back John and he's better than ever. Really, this 47 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: is a fantastic season for him. Took the team on 48 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 1: his back, carried them into the postseason and one in five. 49 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 1: I mean that's miraculous. Here, four games under five hundred 50 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: and you end up going on a run like that. 51 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 1: It's really impressive what they've been able to do, kind 52 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: being oh three going on a run like yeah, yeah, 53 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: I mean it is. But I think with Luck, we 54 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: kind of we didn't write him off completely, but until 55 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:56,959 Speaker 1: you saw it, you weren't gonna believe it because he 56 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 1: missed all of last year and he was still throwing 57 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: a high school football or whatever. In June when the 58 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,959 Speaker 1: Texas rowing three, they went to Indianapolis, I remember everybody 59 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis was saying Luck could not throw the ball 60 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: down the field because Jacoby Brisette had come in to 61 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: throw a hell Mary Well. They said that Brisette has 62 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: such a great arm. He would throw most of the 63 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 1: hell Mary's And I remember they said he couldn't throw 64 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 1: it forty yards, and he came out and threw it 65 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 1: forty yards at t Y Hilton right off the bat. 66 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 1: And Luck turns thirty second week of September, I believe, 67 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: and he spent a year and a half off, so 68 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: that was time his body wasn't getting a lot of 69 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: wear and tear. Now I'm sure Andrew, if he stands 70 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: up physically, be one of those quarterbacks wants to play 71 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: into his forties. And he is a tremendous competitor. Bill 72 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: O'Brien said, it's obvious that he just loves the game. 73 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: JJ White talked about how the way he plays enthusiasm. 74 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: He'll congratulate you for sacking and knocking him down. He'll 75 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: get you up, tell you great head. And of course 76 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: I wrote about Drew Luck today and the first time 77 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: he put on his pads coming from they actually went 78 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: from Europe to Austin, then to Houston, and they went 79 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: from Europe to Austin. He's in the fifth grade and 80 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: two years later Oliver came here as a head of 81 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: the Harris County Houston Sports Authority. Andrew's first day came 82 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: home almost in tears because they gave him alignment's pads. 83 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 1: His dad told him, son, go out early the next 84 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 1: day and throw the ball around with the quarterbacks and receivers. 85 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: See what happens next day. So happy because he had 86 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: a quarterback's pads. And the rest is uh Andrew Luck history. 87 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: And one time when he was in the playoffs for Stratford, 88 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: he threw for three hundred I think thirty seven yards 89 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 1: and four touchdowns here and he lost to eventual state champions. 90 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 1: So t Y Hilton calls it his home away from home, 91 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,799 Speaker 1: but the truth is it is Andrew Luck's home away 92 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 1: from home. Well, he's done well here, there's no question 93 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: about that. He lost in the Sun to that matchup 94 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: in two sixteen. Look, I wrote about this. It's up 95 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: there in Houston Texas dot com the history of this series, 96 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: and it's all Colts really up until the Bill O'Brien era. 97 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: Because the Texans all time are still eight and twenty 98 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: six against the Colts. That's the series. And in the 99 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: first sixteen games they were one and fifteen. That's how 100 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: bad it was with this franchise, and obviously Peyton Manning 101 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: had the most to do with that. But John, here 102 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: we are. I mean, it just seems fitting that these 103 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: two teams would meet on the postseason stage. And I 104 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: think if these two quarterbacks stick around, you're gonna see 105 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 1: this more often down the road. If you think of 106 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: what Indianapolis did to improve its offensive line, Chris Bounded, 107 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 1: their general manager, used first and second round pigs for 108 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: left guard and right tackle, and they went from the 109 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: most sacks to the fewest sacks. And the Texans have 110 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 1: a third of those sacks six out of eighteen, three 111 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: by one and two by Clowney. Their picks in the 112 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: first and second round are a lot higher than Brian 113 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: Gaines are going to be. But it does show you 114 00:05:54,520 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 1: what could happen in one off season. Ryan Kelly, the 115 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 1: center's supposed to be healthy, so that means they would 116 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: have three ones, two and a player claimed on waivers 117 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 1: starting in their offensive line. Texans are gonna shut down 118 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: their run. Texans have been great against the run. They're 119 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: gonna shut down Marlon Mack. It's he's gonna have to throw. 120 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: Luck will have to throw, and I believe the Colts 121 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: will shut down the Texans running game because everybody shuts 122 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: them down. Now, other than Deshaan Watson, we're gonna have 123 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: a quarterback be the fifth the leading rusher for a 124 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: fifth game in a row, other than Baltimore. That's unheard of. 125 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: So it's gonna come down to me. It's not who 126 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 1: can protect the quarterback to best, we already know who 127 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: that's gonna be, but which quarterback plays the best. And 128 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: Watson's gonna be running a lot because he's gonna let 129 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 1: it all hang out like he did against the Jaguars, 130 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: and maybe he will be able to do some damage 131 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: on the ground as well as through the air. Well, 132 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: that would be good. That's obviously something they need to do. 133 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: But he does have some playmakers through the air. Now. 134 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,239 Speaker 1: Of course, Damarius Thomas was lost a couple of games 135 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: ago in Philadelphia. But what you do have is KIKIQT 136 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: coming back in all likelihood, do we feel confident and 137 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: comfortable in saying that that he's going to be back 138 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: and he's going to be productive, because last time Bill 139 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: O'Brien used that word, he expects them or hopes him 140 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: trending in the right direction, But also he used the 141 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: word productive. He hopes that he's productive. He had eleven 142 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: catches and the only matchup he had with the Colts. 143 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: I expected them to use him similarly, but use some 144 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: new wrinkles. I don't know what you're thinking with these 145 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: receivers the same thing. You can't do the same things 146 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: you did in regular season. You don't want to get 147 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: away from what brung you. They're not going to run 148 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: it fifty times unless it works. Colts are not gonna 149 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: rush for two hundred yards to take the ball out 150 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: of luck Sands. They got here because the Colts have 151 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: been solid in just about every area and they've improved 152 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: that the season went on. It would help the Texans 153 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: running game, didn't abandon them like they have recently and 154 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: let Lamar Miller now for Blue run the way they 155 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: used to when the line was opening more holes. And 156 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: maybe it's hard to beleave, but remember back in the 157 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: midway part of the season they went through a string 158 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: in which Watson wasn't getting sacked and hit that much, 159 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: and then at the end of the season it's been 160 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: an avalanche last three games mark five sacks a game 161 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: and ten point three knockdowns, and O'Brien said they can't 162 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: win and him continue to take that kind of beating. 163 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: But I don't know if you can change it. If 164 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: you can change it now, why wouldn't you have changed 165 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: it then? If I'm the Colts, I'm coming after Watson, 166 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to. Tanico Autry has four sacks. Yeah, who, 167 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: that's just it. One of the best free agents signings 168 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: has four sacks. And I remember there was a play 169 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: in that last game where he is basically picked up 170 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: Kenney Lamb and deposited him on top of Watson and 171 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: Henry Anderson at Philadelphia, right, remember the big game. Yes, 172 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:58,719 Speaker 1: I mean you have some guys who are who are 173 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 1: doing this right now, and you see all the metrics 174 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 1: out there, all the advanced stats that Watson he's responsible 175 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: for a lot of these because he wants to hold 176 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: the ball and make plays, but he also knows that 177 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: he cannot throw interceptions. If he's gonna throw picks, this 178 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: team's not gonna win the best chances. Yeah, you gotta 179 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: make some big plays downfield, but take a sack if 180 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: you have to, because you're better off hunting and playing. 181 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 1: He just don't want taking those big sacks, you know, 182 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 1: ten to twelve yards throw it away, throw it in 183 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: the ground. And he has no interceptions the last six games. 184 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: I think Luck's from one in the last six one 185 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: in each of the last six games. In the playoffs, 186 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: Luck has more interceptions and touchdowns twelve and nine, which 187 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 1: I was surprised when I saw that, because I remember 188 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: that great playoff game against that against Kansas City when 189 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: he and Alex Smith went at it, and Watson the 190 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: fact that in his second season marked that he only 191 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: threw nine interceptions, and I remember in that three game 192 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 1: losing streak that three interceptions in end zone when he 193 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: threw into double coverage and he hadn't done that since 194 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: you don't see many where you go, oh no, he 195 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: shouldn't have thrown it. And you also haven't seen any 196 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: And this is amazing. Every quarterback is a victim of 197 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: interceptions in which balls ricochet off the receiver's hands, and 198 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: that hadn't happened here because the guy's got good heads 199 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: and Watson is accurate. Yeah, he's really learned as the 200 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: season has gone on. You're right, he doesn't throw those 201 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,079 Speaker 1: double coverage sacks. He's trying to make plays in those 202 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: situations too, but he doesn't do that kind of thing anymore. John, 203 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: You've covered the game for a long time. We all 204 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: know what is this? How many years now? Because you 205 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: tweeted it the other day with the new year ringing 206 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: in first camp was seventy seven, but this would be 207 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: full time. This is forty years fortieth super Bowl, I believe. 208 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: And I get really fired up at this time of year. 209 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: I get fired up for the start of the regular 210 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: season and the start of the playoff, right because like 211 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: this weekend, are they all rematches of games? Settle Dowas, Yes, 212 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: Chargers Ravens, Yes. Did Philly play? Did Philly play the Bears? 213 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: I'm thinking they didn't. I thought it was gonna be 214 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 1: Chicago in Minnesota. Then you would add four rematches, But 215 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: I think that it's just as a fan, your pump. 216 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 1: Then you have the championship game in college football Monday night. 217 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: Because of guys like Watson and Hopkins and Reader and 218 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 1: wat Watkins. I'm pulling for Clemson, Sorry, Kareem Jackson. I 219 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 1: wonder if they you know, they got some bets in 220 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: that locker room across the hall between Clemson and Alabama, 221 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: And I think I can't wait to watch to attack 222 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:48,079 Speaker 1: of Aloa and Trevor Lawrence, the true freshman. We're talking 223 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: about two quarterbacks, Mark who can be the first pick 224 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: in their draft. Let me ask you this though about 225 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: the postseason, because when we watch the NBA, for instance, 226 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:00,599 Speaker 1: you can tell the difference between regular season and postseason 227 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: very quickly the intensity level, even though those are seven 228 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: games series. Because and baseball the same thing. I mean, 229 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: playoff baseball is really delightful with all that tension and everything. 230 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: In the NFL. Look, they're playing every regular season game 231 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: like it's a postseason game. But wait a minute, when 232 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 1: you get to the playoffs, there's still a degree higher 233 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: or whatever kind of measurement you want to use here 234 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: in intensity. How do you account for that? How do 235 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: you see that in all your years covering pro football 236 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: when they get into the playoffs and the difference in speed, 237 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: intensity and all of that, aren't you more excited about 238 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: the playoffs? Well, then why would they not be? Yeah, 239 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: I know you are, I am your son, Luke is 240 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: mander kid is everybody is. So the players and coaches 241 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: are no different. Yeah, And the thing is they'll all 242 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: act like they're not paid attention to other games. Of 243 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: course they're paying attention to other games just like just 244 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 1: like we do. Yeah, they do. And I think that 245 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: you brought up a great point in that you know 246 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: that when you lose, if you lose, it's over. So 247 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: no one wants to go through that paint. You want 248 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: to be able to extend your season and certainly have 249 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: games like this at the end of the regular season 250 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:16,559 Speaker 1: where you're trying to fight your way into the postseason. 251 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 1: But now you're on the stage. You know, they always 252 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: talk about it weekly if they're on Prime time, Well, 253 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: we're the only game around. Well you're the only game 254 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: on when you're in the postseason in your slot. There 255 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: are four games this week, Like you said, the Texans 256 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: have the early one, and they're the only game on. 257 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: Frank Reich, first year head coach in the postseason for 258 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: the first time. Buddy's coming off working on a Super 259 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: Bowl champions staff last year. But it's gonna be interesting 260 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: because he hasn't been in the playoffs before. I don't 261 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: want to see Frank Reich beat another Houston team in 262 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: the playoffs now. He did is the best he could 263 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: in that first game at Lucasaw Stadium when he went 264 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: for it on fourth down in his territory, which everybody 265 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: in the media and fans said it was a bad thing, 266 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: and it turned out to be. And the Texans wanted 267 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: to start their winning streak and the Cults kept losing. 268 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: And I considering that Frank what he did to the 269 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 1: Oilers and the biggest choke job in NFL history and 270 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: maybe the most exciting playoff game in history. I want 271 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: Frank's a good guy, great guy. Everybody loves Frank Roich. 272 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: I want the Texans to stick it to him. And 273 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: if they do, I may cost some of those Oilers 274 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: and say, doesn't you have any kind of relief now 275 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: that the Texans got a little revenge against Frank Roich? 276 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: After what do you have profused you guys? Now? I 277 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: think those whether they believe it or not, they'll say 278 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: they will because I'll get them to okay, good and 279 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: that'll make a good story. I want to see the 280 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: Texans play in New England and five times in three years. 281 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: We're talking about accuracy early. I remember earlier. I remember 282 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: when we were in Foxborough for the two thousand and 283 00:14:56,040 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: sixteen divisional game and the Texans were within in one score. 284 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: Hopkins goes over the middle and Oswalder throws it behind him, interception, 285 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: then another interception, and then the route was on. And 286 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: that's the game afterward, in which NFL films picked up 287 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: Brady telling Bob Kraft as they were hugging about how 288 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: tough that defense was. And then you had the three 289 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: point game last year with Watson, then you had the 290 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: seven point game this year, and maybe the Patriots would 291 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl. But I think if you're going 292 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: to play him home where there ain't no this year, 293 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: this is the year to do it, and I would 294 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: love to see him get another shot. I can't remember. 295 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: It's probably Dan Shawness even Boston Globe about they want 296 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: to play the Texans instead of the Colts because basically 297 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: the Texans start gagging on their chowder before they leave here. 298 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: He brought up the leather jacket, letter jackets and all that. 299 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: I want to see the Texans have a shot at 300 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: the Patriots playoff fever in Houston. The Texans and the 301 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: Colts are ready to get it on on Saturday, three 302 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: thirty five, kickoff. We will have it for you right here. 303 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: Twelve thirty five Texans countdown and then the game and 304 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: all the trimmings and by the way, an hour before 305 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: the game, but an hour before kickoff, we go live 306 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: on all the social media channels, so have all your 307 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: screens and radio and everything on to consume what is it 308 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: it going to be going on on the field here 309 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: at NRG Stadium on Saturday, A fight away, Mark, y'all 310 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: do a tremendous job. I don't ever get to hear you, 311 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: so I don't know if you're any good or not. 312 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: I'm assuming you've been around so you missed it pretty 313 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: good maybe, But all the job y'all do on Houston 314 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: Chronicle dot com, with Houston Texans dot com and of 315 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: course Houston Chronicle dot com, but Houston Texans dot com 316 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: with all the platforms y'all have. I think that you 317 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: guys do a tremendous job. Thanks John, I mean, I'll 318 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: pass that along to the guys. They work hard and 319 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: they are always coming up with interesting ideas. One of 320 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: our guys did Deshaun Watson video this week that just 321 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: we had that, and we had another hype video on 322 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: the game, and two different guy did them in our 323 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: video department and they're both like, the hair is standing 324 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 1: up on the back of your neck. It's so exciting 325 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 1: and it gets you so thrilled to see the Shaun Watson, 326 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins, why clowney everybody in the postseason. Let's rock. Well. 327 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: I retweet everything I see that you guys do because 328 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: I figure people who follow me most of them are 329 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: Texans fans. Why else would they follow me unless they 330 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 1: want to know about what movies I like? But oh, 331 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: you always want I would think that, so I think 332 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 1: a lot of those fans they want to know what's 333 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: going on with the Texans. And between you guys at 334 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: Houston Texans dot com and us at Houston Chronicle dot com, 335 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: there's a lot of Texans cover. We gotta covered. We 336 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: gotta covered between the two for sure. Okay, General, let's 337 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: talk about some of the other action in the NFL. 338 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: You talked about the Chargers in Baltimore. They just played 339 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: recently and the Chargers lost at home, if you want 340 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: to call it that. What about the LA Chargers going 341 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 1: across the nation to play in Baltimore? And the Chargers 342 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: are starting to look like the Chargers and not in 343 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: a good way, if you know what I'm saying. What 344 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: do you think of this matchup? I like to think 345 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: Mark that the second time around, they'll do a better 346 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: job defensively against Lamar Jackson and the Ravens running game. 347 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: The Ravens run pass ratio is the highest and like 348 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: ever and because of Lamar Jackson, and once you've seen 349 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: him and devised one game plan, it seems like it 350 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: would be better. So I'm going for Philip Rivers and 351 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: the Chargers to win on the road. They're seven and 352 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: one on the road this season because they have no 353 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: home advantage in that soccer stadium where they play. I 354 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 1: wanted them to win the division and host the AFC 355 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 1: championship game that year that in that stadium and embarrass 356 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 1: the heck out of the NFL for letting them leave 357 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,719 Speaker 1: San Diego. Yeah, and now, well, the only shot they 358 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: would have to do that is if they in Indianapolis 359 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:54,199 Speaker 1: advanced all the way through and they could host it 360 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: as the highest remaining seat. You know what, And the 361 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: AFC being his wide opens is not out of the question, 362 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 1: not out of the question at all. All right, We'll 363 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: stick to the AFC for a moment. We brought up 364 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 1: New England, but John, are you seeing cracks of the 365 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,360 Speaker 1: armor there? And we asked this question whenever they lose 366 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: a couple of games here and there, but they had 367 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: the Bills and the Jets on the way out before 368 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: that couple of losses in a row. Your thoughts, there 369 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 1: were three and five on the road, and some bad 370 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: teams beat them on the road. Detroit manhandled them on 371 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: the road. Jacksonville man andal them on the road. Every 372 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 1: time they've been to the Super Bowl, they've had home 373 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: field advantage. They don't have home field advantage. And I 374 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 1: don't think anybody thinks they're going to Super Bowl because 375 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: of that reason. All right, But what about Brady John 376 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: Is this the sign of the decline is here? I mean, 377 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: how do you account for what he's going through right now? 378 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 1: The numbers don't look that great. Four touchdowns and no 379 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: interceptions against the Jets. Look at his receivers, he had 380 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 1: one Josh Gordon, they signed off the scrap heap Chris 381 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 1: Hogan from game from Buffalo. Look at their receivers. Julian 382 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: Edelman's around in the slot. They have never he loaded 383 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: up that offense with talent at the skill positions to 384 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 1: help him. Now they become a run oriented team. Is 385 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 1: it because the offensive line is because they don't think 386 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 1: Brady can throw the way used to a good battle, 387 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: but they're going with two backs a lot throwback football, 388 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: And that's another reason I think the Texans would do 389 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 1: wells because the Texans have been great against the run, 390 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter who it is. At a guy in 391 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: Indianapolis I was doing the show this morning, he said, 392 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 1: the Colts having a lot one hundred yard rusher. I said, wow, 393 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: Texans having allowed an hundred yarder or a ninety yarder 394 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 1: and they're having a lot of an eighty yarder since 395 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 1: the third game of the season. And he's like, wow, yeah, Wow. 396 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: They're really good against the runs, better against the pack. 397 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: They need to play a team like Baltimore that likes 398 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 1: to run so much. I would love to see Romeo 399 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: Canell come up with the plan for Lamar Jackson, and 400 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: I think New England because it's been so lopsided down 401 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: the stretch them running and passing. I think the Texans 402 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: would have a chance, good chance back to the AFC 403 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: At the moment. What about playoffs? With Dallas hosting Seattle 404 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: this weekend, it's a Texas double header on Saturday. Seattle 405 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 1: lost the first Seattle won the first game in Seattle. 406 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 1: Cowboy fans course beating their chest. They're gonna get revenge. 407 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: They're gonna have to play really good defense against the 408 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 1: run because Seattle's second best running team in the league 409 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: to Baltimore in recent weeks. But do you want Russell 410 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: Wilson to pass? If it comes down to Russell Wilson 411 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 1: and Dak Prescott, who do you go with? I'm going 412 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: with Seattle. Okay, Seattle on the road beating Dallas. Now 413 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: we hinted on it, the Bears and the Eagles. I 414 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: just think the Eagles are the most over hyped team, 415 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: you know. They they yes, they played well down to stretch, 416 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: but they had to struggle to beat the Texans, and 417 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: they wanted to shut out at Washington. But game and 418 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: and no, I had to struggle to beat them because 419 00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 1: the Texans had come back against it. And uh, I 420 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: think the Bears defense will find he finally find a 421 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: solution for Nick Foles and then his last game for 422 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: the Eagles, and the Bears are gonna win that game. 423 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: Mitchell Trubisky has been so much better at home that 424 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: he has been on the road, like Deshan has been 425 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: his good or better on the road than he is 426 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 1: at home. There's an equal ballance, but Trubisky there's not. 427 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: But I think Chicago will win it all. Right, who 428 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,360 Speaker 1: did you have for the Super Bowl preseason? I had 429 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: the Rams and the Patrons. Wow, so you're still very 430 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: much alive. It's still very much alive. I had the 431 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 1: Texans making the playoffs and finishing ten six. I missed 432 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,199 Speaker 1: one by one. Picked Jacksonville to win the division. And 433 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: I had the Texans and Titans as a wild cards. 434 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 1: So I came close on the Titans, but you know, 435 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: nobody who would have thought the Colts. And next year 436 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: think about how good this division is gonna be with 437 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 1: another offseason for Brian Gaine and Chris Ballard and John Robinson. 438 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 1: If the Jaguars getting Nick Foles and they're gonna go 439 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: after him, there gonna have to cut players to free 440 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: up cap money. The two teams were the biggest cap 441 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: issues right now, Philadelphia and Jacksonville. Well, you go free agents, 442 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: and that's that's what happens. And I think that Jacksonville, 443 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if falls would want to go there, 444 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: Say Denver wantsing, would he want to play for John Elway? 445 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:21,199 Speaker 1: But if Jacksonville solves that quarterback problem defense is going 446 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 1: to be even better. Are you surprised no coaching change 447 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: in Jacksonville? I know they're changing out assistance, but what 448 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: about the head coach considering some of the disciplinary problems 449 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 1: they appeared to have, And disciplinary might be too strong 450 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: a word. I know they had the London situation, but 451 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: just four Nette on the bench and Ramsey pouting and 452 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 1: the whole bit the thing in London, Ramsey blasting players 453 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: and GQ before the season. Can you imagine somebody here 454 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: doing that. Yeah, I would would be clean up ais 455 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 1: all four As far as Bill O'Brien, I mean how 456 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: they just wouldn't do it. They just wouldn't do it. 457 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 1: And they Calais Campbell, who was a class act and 458 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,719 Speaker 1: one of their best players, pointed out, you know, they 459 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: got a lot of talent, but it takes more in talent. 460 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: They always say, we got to get on the page, 461 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: same page. Jaguars aren't even in the same book. Now 462 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 1: they're talking about getting rid of for NET and I'm 463 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: as far as not being I'm not surprised about Doug Morone. 464 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: He is Tom Coughlin's kind of guy. Conflin's got to 465 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: bear some responsibility because it's his players too, and I 466 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: look for those two to weed out some bad apples. 467 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 1: The guys that are gone there, we're gonna know those 468 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: are the ones they thought were causing issues behind the scenes, 469 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 1: and I look for them to be more careful about 470 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: the kind of players they bring in. I don't know 471 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: how Dave Caldwell goes to work every day, and I 472 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: don't know how the I mean, I know he drives 473 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: there and he gets paid a lot of money. So 474 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: there's that. But as far as the differing opinions there 475 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 1: might be in the building, as far as the quarterback position, 476 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 1: I'm just curious to know there's no different opinions anymore. 477 00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they all agree he's gone. Yeah, and honest 478 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: in all honesty, Mark, you know, he had a lead 479 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: in New England an AFC championship game, and so I 480 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: understand them sticking with him another year. You don't just 481 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: cut a guy that did. Yeah, there's no good prospect 482 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 1: waiting in the wings now, that's yes, they could have 483 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: signed Teddy Bridgewater to a one year deal somebody like 484 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 1: that insurance policy of nothing else. And because Cody Kessler 485 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: shouldn't even be he should be an XFL Yeah, speaking 486 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: of the XFL, I think Andrew should go play for 487 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: his dad and the XFL already tried that one. He 488 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: said he doesn't believe in nepotism. I told him, I said, well, 489 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: you can come down here for the Houston team. It 490 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: would be reverse nepotism. It would be Luck helping out dad. 491 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 1: They need a big name. And I think if Luck 492 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: goes the XFL, that's that's good for him. That has 493 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,199 Speaker 1: a nice ring to it. Andrew Luck is Houston's XFL QUARTERBA. 494 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 1: You know what, I'll root for him in the XFL. 495 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: In that case. Hard not to root for Andrew luck 496 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: kind of guy, is the kind of family he is. 497 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: He's a wonderful guys fourteen times year, not twice. No, No, 498 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: I don't root for them the other fourteen either. I 499 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: mean I like him, there's no question. But there's never 500 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: any time, under any circumstances unless we need one of 501 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 1: the other AFC South teams to lose. So actually, if 502 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,719 Speaker 1: they happen to sneak through, I might root for them 503 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: against the Patriots. I don't even want to think about 504 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 1: that or give it any kind of brain. Just hate 505 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: the Patriots, don't you. I hate the Patriots. I hate 506 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: the Colts. I hate the tight Could you could you 507 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: even call the ending of a game in which the 508 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: Texans wont in Foxborough? Or would you be so in 509 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 1: shock you couldn't get out the words, oh my gosh 510 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: the game early on in twenty seventeen, I just it 511 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 1: was so exciting having the lead late in that contest 512 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: and just wanting that clock to speed up, and being 513 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: helpless watching Brady go down the field. I mean, doing 514 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 1: what I do. You just have to sort of take 515 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 1: it and like it. You know, whatever they do is 516 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 1: what they do. But I get emotional about it, no question, 517 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 1: all right around the league. We talked about this on Monday. 518 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 1: Of all the job openings, do we agree that Cleveland's 519 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 1: the best one. Yes, it is because they have the quarterback. 520 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 1: They got the quarterback, They got a lot of talent 521 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball. They got draft choices, 522 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 1: they got kept money. He got a good personnel department 523 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: in place. As long as the Haslem stay out of 524 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 1: it and let John Dorsey run it. This is Dorsey's 525 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: never hired a head coach. I keep wondering about Mike 526 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 1: McCarthy there since he and Alonzo Highsmith and Elliott Wolf 527 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: all worked with McCarthy in Green Bay, but his name 528 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 1: isn't coming up. And I'm the one that mystifies me 529 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 1: the most. Is everybody talking about Adam Gaze like he's 530 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: a quarterback guru and he couldn't make Tannehill goal. He 531 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 1: couldn't make Tannehill and they said before the knee, Tannehill 532 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 1: was doing much better, thank you. And so does he 533 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: get credit for Peyton Manning? I don't think so. You 534 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 1: and I could coach Peyton. So I'm wondering where does 535 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,199 Speaker 1: it come from. And yet he's got multiple interviews and 536 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:58,439 Speaker 1: even more mystifying as Cliff Kingsbury, the new offensive coordinator 537 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 1: at us SEE now is supposed to get two interviews 538 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: to be a head coach in the NFL. What about 539 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: Chuck Pagano. I kind of like the idea of Chuck 540 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,400 Speaker 1: working again as a head coluve. Chuck, he's a great guy. 541 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: If you look at his record from the time he 542 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: got there, the Colts did really well, and then he 543 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: had a bad year and he got rid of him 544 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: and for some reason people are looking down on him. 545 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: I think Chuck would be a tremendous addition to any franchise, 546 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 1: And I'm wondering if he'd want to bring his his 547 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: brother John Pagano from the Texans as his defensive coordinator. 548 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 1: That could happen. I suppose. The other thing is I'd 549 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 1: want to know if I was interviewing him, who's your 550 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,360 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator? What's your plan on that side of the football? 551 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: If you like the plan? I mean, Chuck's a good leader, 552 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: and the other guy is a good leader or John. 553 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: Who I think that too many people dismiss quickly is 554 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: Jim Caldwell. Jim Caldwell has won some games in this league, 555 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: super Bowl. Yeah, he's done some things. I mean, Jim 556 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,239 Speaker 1: called Well with the right staff, I believe is a 557 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: good coach. Now at Detroit, you could say, oh, they 558 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: had to tear it down whatever, Matt Patricia. Look, they 559 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: went nine and seven last year with Caldwell. Not that 560 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: nine and seven. You're gonna throw a parade. But it's 561 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: better than what they are this year. I think they 562 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: would love to have that nine to seven. I think 563 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: he had two nine and seven records there. Stafford's performance 564 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: deteriorated and he still had his offensive coordinator, Jim Bob Cooter. 565 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: He got five favor quickly. But how is that that 566 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: they're throwing the ball all over the place with Cooter 567 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: and Calwell and then cal Well's five, Patricia takes over 568 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: and they go down the tubes with the same quarterback 569 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: in the same offensive quarter head coaching rumored candidate for 570 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: a long They didn't try. They didn't though, they didn't 571 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: make the decision to get rid of golden tape. You know, 572 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: there's some people there, boy Trisia and Quinn the GM 573 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: who deserve a lot of criticism, and they're getting it 574 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: for what happened to the Lions this season? What about 575 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: the Dolphins? Case is gone, Stephen Ross, Tannenbaum is out. 576 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: I never understood what Mike Tannenbaum is. Why don't you 577 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: hire me and give me a job like that, pay 578 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: me a whole lot of money, and I'll sit there 579 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: and talk to Luke when he comes in, because that's 580 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: all Tannanbaum did. Yeah, I think they make millions, and 581 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: now he's making millions not to be there for the 582 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: next two years. I think some owners want somebody to 583 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: talk to that knows about football, that they can just 584 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: communicate with, and maybe it just didn't work for it. 585 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: I guess. But I just now Greer, Bobby Greer's sons 586 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: the GM. Does he have total control? Gay said control. 587 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: I don't know how he got that when he's never 588 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 1: been a head coach. I don't think. I don't think 589 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: that's all that great of a job. But if you 590 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: got your quarterback into place like Arizona, people are, oh, 591 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 1: that's a terrible job. That fired to coach after one year. 592 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 1: Well he must have deserved it. But they've got a 593 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: quarterback they believe in. And Josh Rosen I asked Brian 594 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: Gaine today for my column for tomorrow, what is it 595 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: like for GM who doesn't have to find a franchise quarterback? 596 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: I feel bad for all these teams that are still 597 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: looking and knowing that you have Watson and you can 598 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: devote your resources somewhere else. It's just a's like he admitted, 599 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: it makes such a difference when you're scouting because you 600 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: build around him instead of trying to find him. General, 601 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: what do you have going out of the Chronicle? I 602 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: am writing for a thing with Brian Gaine, and then 603 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: I'm writing a thing with the shot about Watson. Saturday 604 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: Chronicle has a special section and it's about Watson in 605 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: big moments and where he gets the nerves to accelerate, 606 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 1: he does. And Aaron Wilson's got a big thing on 607 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,479 Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien coming Saturday. And then Brian T. Smith has 608 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: a deal about Reich's call not to go for the tide, 609 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 1: how much it's changed, what has happened since then. And 610 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 1: so just like Houston Houston Texans dot com, we got 611 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: a lot on Houston Chronicle dot com. You guys, keep 612 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: up the good work and thank you all right. I 613 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: know John Harris is into professional football, college football, high 614 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: school football, all levels of football, and I don't know 615 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: if he's into flag football. Vander Kidd is in studio 616 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: observing today. He's a flag football expert. I love flag football. 617 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 1: In fact, that was the first That was the first 618 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: game I ever grew up playing, really back in the day. Yeah, 619 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: I tried out for for hockey when I was five. 620 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: You did, because I was born and raise in Wisconsin, 621 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: and so I was five years old. I was younger 622 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: than everybody. A good skater. Well, they taught me how 623 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: to skate by pushing a chair on the rink. That's 624 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: how I learned how to skate. Oh, that's a good idea. Yeah, 625 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: So I did that for like two weeks and then 626 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: went to the first game and they said I was 627 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 1: too young to go. My dad said, all right, you're 628 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: done with hockey. We're going to basketball, and so basketball 629 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 1: was next. But flag football was what we did in 630 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: our town. Our elementary schools played flag football, and you 631 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: couldn't play tackle football until sixth grade. And then by 632 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: the time I was at sixth grade, I moved here 633 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: to Texas sixth grade. That sounds blasphemous. In Texas sixth grade, Yeah, 634 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: there was no time retiring at sixth grade and at 635 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: the pension. I know. There was no tackle football in 636 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: our town until sixth grade, and then the middle schools 637 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 1: well then where the middle schools played it, and then 638 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: obviously tackle beyond that. So I love flight football. I 639 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: think flight football is hugely important. I mean, I I 640 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: just think it's funny. I didn't really appreciate flight football 641 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 1: until I started playing it after I got out of college, 642 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: and then I'm played routes, you know, I mean, it's football. 643 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: It's great. It's a certain aspect of it. I mean, 644 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: just the athleticism you need just to be able to 645 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: pull a flag I mean so incredibly difficult. I mean, 646 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: to make a tackle. Look tackling and open in the 647 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: open field is tough. But you can grab any you grab, 648 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 1: you can hold, you knew anything to get a flag. 649 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: You got an aim for one spot and then poom 650 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: and get You could be like some of my kids 651 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: who play both, and they tend to sort of not 652 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 1: wrap up but racket the guy while they're trying to 653 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: get the flag out and the guy stops and whatever. 654 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: All right, So it reminds me of that video that 655 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: we had in the preseason, the Boys of Fall that 656 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: Kenny Chesney saw. We made a big video to it 657 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: with all the high school stuff and flag and then 658 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: it sort of elevates into the Texans and it's kind 659 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: of like the NFL playoff campaign with you. You know. 660 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: It's that kind of thing where you start from a 661 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 1: grassroots level, but it's all connected and it connects to 662 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,320 Speaker 1: Saturday at three thirty, Johnny, as the Texans and Colts 663 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,919 Speaker 1: will get together. I wanted to ask you this. It's 664 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: time for me to understand a little bit here in 665 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: a very sort of verbal yet comprehensive way and comprehendable 666 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: way about what the Texans need to do to stop? 667 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 1: All right, stop might be too much to ask to 668 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 1: hold Andrew Luck and company to Look, they scored twenty 669 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,879 Speaker 1: four points last time they were here. Let's let's play. 670 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 1: Let's make a football deal. If I tell you Colts 671 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: get twenty four, you're gonna take it, or take door 672 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: number two. I'll take it. You'll take it, yeah, because 673 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,760 Speaker 1: I think I think the Texans can get to twenty 674 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 1: five at least. What going back and watching game two 675 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,919 Speaker 1: in particular, I thought about going back and watching Game 676 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: one because the Texans were very successful, and I think 677 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 1: they'll have some personnel in that game that they didn't have. 678 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 1: I think the one biggest difference personnel wise, the offense 679 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: will have is the quickness they had Joe Webb Demrys 680 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: Thomas at receiver. They're gonna be so much quicker this time, 681 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 1: I would think. So they're gonna get guys open. I think, 682 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 1: a little quicker. That's a great point. But here's the 683 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 1: other thing too. They had some deep shots available and 684 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 1: then they didn't hit them. They didn't hit them, or 685 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,919 Speaker 1: they ran out of time. There was one time where 686 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 1: Deshan was about to break free and hit one, and 687 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:29,879 Speaker 1: he couldn't. I think some of the deep shots are there, 688 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 1: So I think that's one of the ways that they 689 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 1: can get the running game to get going. Yeah, I 690 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 1: think offensively one of the things that they've got to 691 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 1: be able to do. The Colts do a good job 692 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:40,840 Speaker 1: of this, and and I really have never seen this 693 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 1: until this year. They'll they'll have a four man front, 694 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 1: but they'll take two defensive tackles and they'll put them 695 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 1: on the inside shoulders of the guards, basically right in 696 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: the A gaps. It's like a double a gap thing. 697 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 1: Now a lot of times you hear you hear people 698 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 1: talk about, oh, the linebackers are mugging in the A gaps. 699 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,320 Speaker 1: These are actually the defensive linement up in the gaps. 700 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 1: And what it does is it almost creates a double 701 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 1: like you have to double those two guys, like you cannot. 702 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 1: Those guys just shoot up field and if you don't 703 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 1: double them, they're creating all kinds of havoc with your 704 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 1: run game. So you've got to do something. And the 705 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 1: other thing it does is it allows fifty three to 706 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 1: run to the football where ever he wants. So that's 707 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 1: that I think is really tough. But I do think 708 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 1: the Texans have got some deep shots available to them. 709 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 1: I think guys will be able to get open a 710 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 1: little bit quicker because you lost DeAndre Carternet game early, 711 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 1: got the concussion on the hit by Malie Cooker. I 712 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 1: think it was maybe there's gathers, maybe it gathers, but 713 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 1: either way, they lost him early. So if they're able 714 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 1: to keep him, I think getting those routes open, controlling 715 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 1: the football if they don't, if they're not running the ball, 716 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 1: just here, Lamar take it or Alfred you take it. 717 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 1: The short passing game can be the replacement of that. 718 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 1: That can be the replacement for the run game. Defensively, 719 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 1: the key to me is if thirteen is on a side, 720 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 1: you've got to devote more guys to that side. You 721 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 1: just have to. I mean, even if eighty fives on 722 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 1: the other side, you have to devote more guys to 723 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,720 Speaker 1: number thirteenth side. I mean, you have to account for Hilton. 724 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 1: I don't care if he's got a bad ankle. And 725 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,399 Speaker 1: I saw a tweet earlier this afternoon that said, if 726 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 1: this were a regular season, t Y probably wouldn't have 727 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,839 Speaker 1: played a couple of weeks because his ankle is that bad. 728 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 1: All right, we'll test it. Well. I wonder if test 729 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 1: regular season and they don't need the game, what DeAndre 730 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 1: Hopkins status would be. I mean, he's always wanted to play. 731 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 1: What did he miss last year the finale? That was it? Yeah, 732 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 1: because you know it was the finale and it did. 733 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,360 Speaker 1: He's competing and doing what he's got to do weekend 734 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 1: and week out. So from from that perspective, just you know, 735 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 1: the thing about the thing that's troubling is how good 736 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 1: Reich and that Colt's offense are in isolating him when 737 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 1: they're when you're in man, they know how to get 738 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 1: him open. When you're in zone, they know how to 739 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 1: just settle up and find the zones. And I think 740 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 1: that's what's really problematic, because Andrew is doing something now 741 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,280 Speaker 1: that he's never done. He's getting rid of the football. 742 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,440 Speaker 1: He's getting rid of it quickly. He knows where to 743 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 1: go with it, he knows where he wants it, and 744 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 1: he's getting the ball there. And one of the things 745 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 1: that the Jags did against the Colts I thought was 746 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 1: they were able to get pressure on Luck. They did 747 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,239 Speaker 1: force him to move in the pocket a little bit, 748 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 1: but they were able to really clamp down on Hilton. 749 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 1: I mean he had I think eight catches, but they're 750 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 1: only for seventy seven yards. So when he caught it, 751 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 1: it was catching. Boom. They were there, they were on him. 752 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 1: It wasn't catch. He's able to turn up field and 753 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,319 Speaker 1: then make some moves and get some yards or catch 754 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 1: the deep ball down the field. The Jags completely eliminated 755 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:37,400 Speaker 1: that and that made Andrew go to Ibron sixteen times 756 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 1: in that game, which is fine because Ibron had I 757 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,400 Speaker 1: can't remember what the number was. It was not a 758 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,320 Speaker 1: high number of catches. It was a high volume of targets, 759 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 1: but you didn't have a ton of catches. But that's 760 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 1: what the Jags did say, Look, if you're gonna throw 761 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:49,719 Speaker 1: it the t why we're gonna hit him right in 762 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 1: the spot because we got two guys in his vicinity. 763 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,239 Speaker 1: And I think that's what the Texas got to do. 764 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,799 Speaker 1: I think if there's any game plan, any blueprint, that's 765 00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 1: probably the closest ye're gonna get. Now, can you emulate it? 766 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,400 Speaker 1: You don't have a Jalen Ramsey, you don't have an 767 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,919 Speaker 1: Aja Boyer, you don't have a guy who just say 768 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,359 Speaker 1: at times, hey, just thirteen is yours? Go get him. 769 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 1: You don't have that, So this has got to be 770 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 1: truly a team concept of the secondary. But they're they're 771 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,919 Speaker 1: well aware of what Tis had to say this week 772 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 1: about this is his second home. He loves to come here, 773 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 1: he loves to play this Hilton Stadium. Yeah, the Hilton 774 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 1: Stadium was like, wow, okay, all right, let's go. I 775 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 1: need a line on that something about you know, no 776 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:32,279 Speaker 1: disrespect to the hotel chain, but I need something. I 777 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 1: need something. You'll find something. Yeah, you got less than 778 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,800 Speaker 1: forty eight hours, but you got something. Yeah, I'll figure 779 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 1: it out. I mean, there's got to be something. But 780 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,799 Speaker 1: what about special teams and things like that? You know, 781 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,400 Speaker 1: you have the leading score in the NFL on the 782 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 1: Texans team. Now in football, it's not quite the same 783 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:53,160 Speaker 1: thing to say basketball, Hey, Kimie, go get us twenty right, right, 784 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,799 Speaker 1: But it's pretty cool that he got that honor. It 785 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 1: was it was excellent. I thought it was. That was cool. 786 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,719 Speaker 1: And did you also see that he won a Polynesian Yeah, yeah, 787 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. What I mean that was really cool 788 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 1: as well. That was cool because you know that he 789 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,959 Speaker 1: knows what that means and what that is. Yeah, even 790 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,440 Speaker 1: though we might not. Yeah, good for him. Here's what 791 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,240 Speaker 1: you do not want to have happen is the balls 792 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 1: on the foot of number four on the other side, 793 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 1: because how many big kicks in the playoffs? Is that 794 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 1: a Minetarian made? I know, I don't. I mean, that's 795 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,720 Speaker 1: the last thing you want. The last thing you want 796 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 1: is twelve with the ball down or tied, where a 797 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 1: few goal can win it. And he just got to 798 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,799 Speaker 1: get vinetarian range. I mean, that's that's that's where they 799 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,440 Speaker 1: were last time up there. Yeah, anyway, and they weren't 800 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 1: able to get it going. So there was that. All right, Johnny, 801 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,400 Speaker 1: thanks a lot, appreciate it. Mark, thank you. It's playoff 802 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 1: time in Houston, and because it's a national game, it's 803 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,400 Speaker 1: a playoff game. My goodness. We have people coming in 804 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:51,240 Speaker 1: to cover this thing from everywhere. ESPN has six trucks 805 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 1: outside NFL Network bringing a lot of people, including James Palmer, 806 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 1: our good friend, to cover the Texans and the cults. James, 807 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 1: how are you doing. It's good to be here. I 808 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 1: don't know why I missed yesterday. I wish I was 809 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 1: here all week, but I came on. Was that New 810 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,279 Speaker 1: Year's Day? Yeah, it was New Year's Yeah, I was 811 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,839 Speaker 1: in the airport five thirty am New Year's Day. Not 812 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 1: a rowdy group in the airport at five am on 813 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,760 Speaker 1: somebody's got to catch an early flight out or whatever. 814 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,880 Speaker 1: Not happy about it. It's funny though you mentioned New 815 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 1: Year's Day. I'm thinking, yeah, it was the holidays. When 816 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,719 Speaker 1: you're in this business, are you don't exist? Yeah? I 817 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,319 Speaker 1: don't want to say they're irrelevant, because if you have 818 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 1: a family, I know, you got a little guy you attend, Yeah, 819 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 1: you just you might be shift. I mean, if my 820 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,400 Speaker 1: dad covered the Eagles, it was like, hey, guess what 821 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,680 Speaker 1: Christmas is gonna be on the twenty third or Christmas 822 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 1: is gonna be on the twenty six. Yeah, you know, 823 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 1: it always varied. If he was on the road with 824 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,319 Speaker 1: those guys, it was like, we're gonna open presence, you 825 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 1: know here as opposed to Christmas. Wait, what was your 826 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 1: dad doing covering the Eagles? He was a like a 827 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:55,240 Speaker 1: local sports anchor in Philadelphia, uh, and covered the Eagles 828 00:41:55,280 --> 00:42:00,200 Speaker 1: from eighty one to six. Wow? Yeah, all right. He 829 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,319 Speaker 1: went through a lot of interesting times. Randall Cunningham, Cunningham 830 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,840 Speaker 1: and Buddy Ryan and Reggie White and Drome. I remember 831 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,279 Speaker 1: I remember the day Jerome Brown died. He left one 832 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 1: of my little league games mid game when the news 833 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 1: broke and when he actually ended up going down South 834 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:20,800 Speaker 1: where it happened to do some So you're in the business, 835 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 1: let me just ask you this, because my family they 836 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,759 Speaker 1: react to certain things. Are your kids emotionally I mean, 837 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,279 Speaker 1: are you emotionally scarred from your dad covering sports and 838 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 1: having to leave your game? Well, a little bit. He 839 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,439 Speaker 1: didn't tend much like yeah that it was a little 840 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,279 Speaker 1: bit like you know, he was always leaving, but he 841 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,719 Speaker 1: always would like leave notes in my room like how 842 00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 1: to like write me back on how you know your 843 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,600 Speaker 1: basketball game went or like you know how it went 844 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,040 Speaker 1: down because she tried to stay involved as much as 845 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:50,680 Speaker 1: he could. Um, so he made a really strong effort. 846 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,960 Speaker 1: And now he's like super grandpa. So he's like he's 847 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:54,960 Speaker 1: like making up for lost time. Oh that's correct, Yeah, 848 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:56,840 Speaker 1: that's good. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to delve. So, no, 849 00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,279 Speaker 1: the wounds are still fresh. Mark, I'm like Roy fire Stone. 850 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,720 Speaker 1: My goal is to make you cry during this session. 851 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 1: Here James James, pom NFL Network. So you're here, and 852 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,520 Speaker 1: what do you think of this one? Colt Texans Part three. Yeah, 853 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,239 Speaker 1: this is tough. I mean, anytime you play somebody three 854 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,080 Speaker 1: times is a bit odd. I think it's happened forty 855 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 1: seven times off the top of my head. But I 856 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,400 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be tough for us. I mean, I mean, 857 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,640 Speaker 1: the way Andrew Luck plays against this team is I mean, 858 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,759 Speaker 1: for as as a fan of the NFL, I know 859 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,759 Speaker 1: this isn't what everybody Houston wants to hear, but seeing 860 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,200 Speaker 1: Andrew Luck back playing at this level is really awesome. Yeah, 861 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:32,839 Speaker 1: I just think it's great for the sport, it's great 862 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:34,799 Speaker 1: for him. Everybody kind of wrote it, I mean, but 863 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,439 Speaker 1: right now, yeah, right now everybody. But I just think 864 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,239 Speaker 1: he has such a command against this defense that I 865 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:45,160 Speaker 1: think Houston's gonna have to do something different, and really 866 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,719 Speaker 1: they're gonna need a game changing type play to really 867 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,120 Speaker 1: help them out. Whether it's Clowney or JJ or I'm 868 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,319 Speaker 1: not seeing a pick. I'm I'm seeing if somebody can 869 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,239 Speaker 1: get him from the blind side and you can get 870 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 1: you know, a strip sack or something that he got 871 00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 1: one they did, they did. I'm just saying what I've seen. 872 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,799 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just I think they need one of 873 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:05,840 Speaker 1: those plays to help them out in a sense. And 874 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,640 Speaker 1: if you remember and he played a pretty well defense. 875 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,480 Speaker 1: They got after de Shaan I did the Week four 876 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,440 Speaker 1: team games. I mean, they got after them really well. 877 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,080 Speaker 1: They blitz more than they you know, against their tendencies 878 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:19,080 Speaker 1: that they don't usually do. Um And one of the 879 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:20,840 Speaker 1: things I got out of and I want to, you know, 880 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:22,239 Speaker 1: kind of keep an eye on this in this game, 881 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:23,799 Speaker 1: is when I went to the Colts locker room after 882 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,360 Speaker 1: that Week fourteen game, I talked to Eric Ebron and 883 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,440 Speaker 1: t Y Hilton both separately, and both of them were 884 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 1: raving about what Frank Reich has done with the two 885 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,920 Speaker 1: of them and bunching them together and having the two 886 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:35,960 Speaker 1: of them line up so close to one another that 887 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,759 Speaker 1: it makes so different, makes it so difficult on defenses 888 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,799 Speaker 1: and safeties. And I remember Ebron saying, if you want 889 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,680 Speaker 1: to press t Y, go ahead, I'm just gonna run 890 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,040 Speaker 1: right by it then. And then there there I am 891 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,239 Speaker 1: and and the and the growth that he's had in 892 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,200 Speaker 1: this offense and the number of mismatches that they've started 893 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 1: to learn to create. As remember this as an offense 894 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,480 Speaker 1: that's just evolving in its first year with Frank and 895 00:44:55,680 --> 00:45:00,200 Speaker 1: Andrew together. So um, it's gonna be interesting how the 896 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,000 Speaker 1: Colts take that to another level to manipulate it, and 897 00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,560 Speaker 1: how the Texans adjust to it, hopefully in the third time. 898 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,160 Speaker 1: Slow it down. I think I'm gonna throw up after 899 00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,400 Speaker 1: what you just said there. And look, that's been a 900 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,400 Speaker 1: problem for a lot of teams. The Texans have to 901 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,160 Speaker 1: get better in past defense, there's no doubt about it, 902 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,200 Speaker 1: and hopefully they can get there with the rush. But 903 00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,239 Speaker 1: Watson appears on the postseason stage for the first time. 904 00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,000 Speaker 1: I know Luck is back for the first time since 905 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:27,920 Speaker 1: twenty fourteen, but the sean with the postseason lights on, 906 00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,000 Speaker 1: that could be interesting. Yeah, that's what I'm I mean, 907 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:31,839 Speaker 1: that's why I said this on NFL Network the other day, 908 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,760 Speaker 1: how excited I am to see him playing in the playoffs, 909 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 1: just because it's it's not just like, you know, just 910 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 1: the Texans organization hyping up, you know, their franchise quarterback. 911 00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,560 Speaker 1: This is something people around the league thought prior to 912 00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,240 Speaker 1: him getting drafted. This is something around the league people 913 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,959 Speaker 1: think right now. Is the guy just plays better when 914 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,080 Speaker 1: Moore is on the line. I mean, when it's bigger 915 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,640 Speaker 1: and brighter. It's one of the reasons why the Texans 916 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,680 Speaker 1: traded up to get him. When Rick Smith was sitting 917 00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,359 Speaker 1: there watching in the stands, I think because there wasn't 918 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,040 Speaker 1: enough room in the press box in the stands watching 919 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:06,399 Speaker 1: Clemson play and going, well, you know, you see those 920 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,480 Speaker 1: those comebacks against Alabama and go, oh, this is the 921 00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,920 Speaker 1: kind of guy we want, and it just seems you know. 922 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:12,920 Speaker 1: I was on the sideline in Philly, even though they 923 00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:16,919 Speaker 1: didn't win, that was unbelievable, and talking to Chris long 924 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,400 Speaker 1: after the game, who had his you know, entire body 925 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,000 Speaker 1: rapped around. Yeah, one of three guys I think to 926 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:27,040 Speaker 1: Haveean Watson on that one play. He was just like, 927 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,080 Speaker 1: you know, he's a magician back there. I mean, there's just, 928 00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,759 Speaker 1: you know, there's something about it that just you know, 929 00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:33,600 Speaker 1: he has this vibe that he's just like, there's no 930 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:35,520 Speaker 1: way you're gonna stop me. And I thought this week 931 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,759 Speaker 1: when he said what the way I carry myself, it 932 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:43,680 Speaker 1: spreads throughout the entire offense and he doesn't in such 933 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:49,040 Speaker 1: a you know, I compare him. And here's a good story. 934 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,680 Speaker 1: I was talking to Doug Peterson before the Eagles game 935 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 1: against the Texans on the sideline and Doug said, you know, 936 00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,080 Speaker 1: we're talking about Foles versus Wentz, and he said, our 937 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,560 Speaker 1: guy talking about Wentz is a lot like this guy 938 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:06,040 Speaker 1: talking about Watson. He goes, both of them are unbelievably talented. 939 00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,200 Speaker 1: They can do things that nobody else can do with 940 00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:12,200 Speaker 1: the quarterback spot, but they're both learning how they're gonna 941 00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,600 Speaker 1: do it. They're still very young and learning the position 942 00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,719 Speaker 1: at the NFL level. So he said, there's times where 943 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:18,839 Speaker 1: Carson should probably throw the ball away and it drives 944 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:20,880 Speaker 1: me insane. And there's times when Deshaun should throw the 945 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,479 Speaker 1: ball away and it probably drives Bill insane. But there's 946 00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:26,280 Speaker 1: also times where one of them does something where you go, well, 947 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,399 Speaker 1: if I had any other quarterback, he can't do that. 948 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,600 Speaker 1: So you got to try to find he said, both 949 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,239 Speaker 1: of these guys are finding that balance. But both of 950 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,759 Speaker 1: them are so good at what they do. It's just 951 00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:40,600 Speaker 1: you're trying to mold that guy into what you know, 952 00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,920 Speaker 1: as a head coach he can be. And that's kind 953 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:44,440 Speaker 1: of the way Doug described. He made a lot of 954 00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,480 Speaker 1: comparisons between went and Watson. Do you think the position 955 00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:51,239 Speaker 1: has changed forever or is about to change forever? With 956 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:55,520 Speaker 1: Watson and Lamar Jackson and Baker Mayfield and whole breed 957 00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,560 Speaker 1: of quarterbacks. That's just lighting it up at a young age. Yeah, 958 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,520 Speaker 1: I think, you know, there's a couple of things that 959 00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:04,719 Speaker 1: I really like about it, and it's one is it's 960 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,040 Speaker 1: it's the athletic ability that a lot of these guys have, 961 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:11,160 Speaker 1: and and you know, Mahomes's you know, past baseball experience, 962 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,759 Speaker 1: you can just see when he plays the position. And 963 00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:15,319 Speaker 1: this is why when Bucky Brooks is one of our 964 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,000 Speaker 1: top you know, draft analyst guys over NFL Network and 965 00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,000 Speaker 1: him and I were talking about how it's it's so 966 00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,400 Speaker 1: great to see guys that play multiple sports and you 967 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,400 Speaker 1: can see some of the skills translate into making them 968 00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,400 Speaker 1: play the position differently than you've seen other guys in 969 00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,879 Speaker 1: the past. And the other part about it, I think 970 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,440 Speaker 1: is these guys have like as we're talking about Wentz 971 00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,839 Speaker 1: and Watson and wanting the foot like, they have this 972 00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,560 Speaker 1: ability and Mayfield's in that, Mahomes is in that that 973 00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:40,760 Speaker 1: just like if I have the ball in the fourth quarter, 974 00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:44,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna score. And it's like and it's not in everybody. 975 00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,400 Speaker 1: I remember DeShawn saying several weeks back where he was 976 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,960 Speaker 1: where I was asking him about Baker and how Baker's 977 00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,839 Speaker 1: trying to win over Cleveland, and he's like, very few 978 00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,480 Speaker 1: people can win over a city and have that ability 979 00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,279 Speaker 1: because he's done it here. And I think, you know, 980 00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,359 Speaker 1: you've seen Mahomes doing in Kansas City, and you've seen 981 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,120 Speaker 1: these young guys come and just put their own spin 982 00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:06,240 Speaker 1: on the quarterback spot, which is interesting because like Dwayne 983 00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,040 Speaker 1: Haskins coming out of the Ohio State University, greatest school 984 00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,000 Speaker 1: in the in the world, has an announced but most 985 00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,160 Speaker 1: likely coming out, he plays it like a true pocket 986 00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,560 Speaker 1: passer and he can barely move. So it's gonna be 987 00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,960 Speaker 1: interesting to see how he's evaluated against all of these 988 00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:23,120 Speaker 1: guys that are so you know, so nimble in the 989 00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,359 Speaker 1: pocket and so creative in the pocket. That's the other 990 00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,759 Speaker 1: part of it. It's the creativity to just make the 991 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:31,239 Speaker 1: off scripted plays that I think is hopefully, you know, 992 00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,440 Speaker 1: we're losing we've lost Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Tom Brady 993 00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,239 Speaker 1: or towards the end of their careers. We need to 994 00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,960 Speaker 1: get fans around this new group that I think is 995 00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:40,920 Speaker 1: going to carry the league for the next twenty years. 996 00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,440 Speaker 1: Awesome for the NFL, there's no doubt about it. On 997 00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,400 Speaker 1: the subject of Philadelphia, you just brought them up with Peterson. 998 00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,920 Speaker 1: Here they are on the postseason. Now, I got to 999 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:50,920 Speaker 1: think the Bears, I mean they went all out, not 1000 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:54,000 Speaker 1: all out, but they really played hard against Minnesota, won 1001 00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,000 Speaker 1: the game, knowing that if they lost, they would get 1002 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,080 Speaker 1: Minnesota at their place. Now they got the Eagles at 1003 00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,160 Speaker 1: their place. How do they feel about that? Yeah, that's 1004 00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:03,279 Speaker 1: gonna be I mean, that's that game has so many storylines. Listen, 1005 00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,399 Speaker 1: I'm very happy I'm here. I love covering games here. 1006 00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,080 Speaker 1: But if I could be anywhere else, I would maybe 1007 00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:10,879 Speaker 1: be in the game. You get the Long brothers going 1008 00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,680 Speaker 1: against each other. You have the history of Matt Naggie 1009 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:15,800 Speaker 1: and Doug Peterson together. There was a great story that 1010 00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,520 Speaker 1: Naggie told this week about he was watching film of 1011 00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:23,400 Speaker 1: Nick Foles college film of Nick Foles with Doug Peterson, 1012 00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:27,640 Speaker 1: both of them on Andy Reid's staff in Kansas City, 1013 00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,960 Speaker 1: and Andy walks in sees a little bit of the 1014 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,759 Speaker 1: film and tells Naggie, re change your flights. You're going 1015 00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:34,560 Speaker 1: now to Arizona. Go take a look at this Nick 1016 00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:39,560 Speaker 1: Foles kid. So Naggie knows Foles real well and these 1017 00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,600 Speaker 1: two guys know each other really well. And you know 1018 00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,759 Speaker 1: how Foles, a little bit banged up, handles this. This front. Now, 1019 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,279 Speaker 1: the Eagles offensive line has had a real chip on 1020 00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,160 Speaker 1: their shoulder in the last several weeks. I mean, Lane 1021 00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,000 Speaker 1: Johnson not going to the Pro Bowl has made that 1022 00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,160 Speaker 1: guy like a man possessed. And he had opened about 1023 00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,400 Speaker 1: saying how pissed off he was he didn't make the 1024 00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,400 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. That guy at right tackle has done unbelievable 1025 00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,440 Speaker 1: things against guys like Von Miller and stuff, and doesn't 1026 00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,280 Speaker 1: go to the Pro Bowl. He was so nervous about 1027 00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,239 Speaker 1: making the Pro Bowl he left his house like two 1028 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,960 Speaker 1: in the morning, slept at the facility and just waited 1029 00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:09,560 Speaker 1: all morning to see if he made the Pro Bowl 1030 00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,360 Speaker 1: and didn't. And he has been a man on fire 1031 00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:17,040 Speaker 1: since he didn't. And them going against Khalil mackin coompany upfront, 1032 00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,400 Speaker 1: I think is going to be, you know, really interesting 1033 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,520 Speaker 1: to watch. And everybody wants to see the Nick Foles 1034 00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:24,200 Speaker 1: magic and see if it continues. It's just it's just 1035 00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,640 Speaker 1: cool to see. And and I think, you know, the 1036 00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,280 Speaker 1: Bears being back in the postseason, the Bears being relevant, 1037 00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:31,839 Speaker 1: I think is as we say, things that are good 1038 00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:33,719 Speaker 1: for the league. I think that's something that's that's real 1039 00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,000 Speaker 1: good for the league. You were telling me. And back 1040 00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,799 Speaker 1: to here, DeAndre Hopkins brought Drey Johnson up to the 1041 00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,280 Speaker 1: podium the other day and that was real special to see. 1042 00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,799 Speaker 1: And I'd been spending some time here and we were 1043 00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,320 Speaker 1: talking about possible roles for Andre just us, you know, 1044 00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:50,080 Speaker 1: just a couple of guys decisions, but we hypothesize and 1045 00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,879 Speaker 1: have a lot of ideas. But what about DeMarcus Ware 1046 00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,080 Speaker 1: what he's doing in Denver exactly? That's what and that's 1047 00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:56,879 Speaker 1: why I brought this up to you, is I could 1048 00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,880 Speaker 1: see Dre doing something in the capacity that DeMarcus does 1049 00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:03,440 Speaker 1: with the Denver Broncos. And what DeMarcus does is he's 1050 00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:05,799 Speaker 1: a pass He's considered a pass rush consultant. Now. He 1051 00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:07,840 Speaker 1: used to go around to you know, they used to 1052 00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,160 Speaker 1: play in Dallas, obviously, so he would go help out 1053 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,239 Speaker 1: in training camp at times with the Cowboys or help 1054 00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,319 Speaker 1: out with the Broncos. Well, the Broncos locked him up 1055 00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,279 Speaker 1: to where he couldn't go do that with anybody else 1056 00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,640 Speaker 1: around the league. And it's almost on a it's like 1057 00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,160 Speaker 1: a part time coaching type of thing you're not putting 1058 00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:22,880 Speaker 1: in the hours that everybody else on the staff is. 1059 00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:24,680 Speaker 1: You're not there every day, you're not in the team meetings. 1060 00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,560 Speaker 1: You have one specific skill, like Dre has one of 1061 00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:31,560 Speaker 1: unbelievable route running and weighing to play the wide receiver 1062 00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,080 Speaker 1: position the way DeMarcus does on the pass rushing side 1063 00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:35,879 Speaker 1: of things. So he just spends time with the pass 1064 00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,080 Speaker 1: rushers a lot of time during training camp and then 1065 00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:41,319 Speaker 1: probably half the week during the season, and it's really 1066 00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,240 Speaker 1: kind of up to him on how much he wants 1067 00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,600 Speaker 1: to be there. But it's it's on a lesser form 1068 00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,040 Speaker 1: of a coach, but you are locked up to that organization. 1069 00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,680 Speaker 1: You can't really teach anyone else, which I think would 1070 00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:53,000 Speaker 1: be cool for Dre. I mean, I talked to Bradley Chubb, 1071 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,640 Speaker 1: who's the fifth overall pick, almost breaks the rookie sack 1072 00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,200 Speaker 1: record for the Broncos, and he was like, and because 1073 00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:01,120 Speaker 1: d wears on the sidelines during aims as well, and 1074 00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,640 Speaker 1: he goes, he said, I can't remember which quarterback it was. 1075 00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:05,520 Speaker 1: It might have been lying, so he doesn't tip a quarterback, 1076 00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:07,560 Speaker 1: but he goes, I can't remember which quarterback it was, 1077 00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,120 Speaker 1: but Deware was telling me in game, take a look 1078 00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:13,200 Speaker 1: at his hand. His bottom hand starts to move about 1079 00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,759 Speaker 1: a half a second before the ball is snapped, and 1080 00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:18,040 Speaker 1: he has a little hitch in his hand. You got 1081 00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:19,879 Speaker 1: to start looking at that, and you're gonna be able 1082 00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,520 Speaker 1: to get an extra jump. Well this and he goes. 1083 00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,759 Speaker 1: He sees things, speaking of you, where trumb goes that 1084 00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:27,680 Speaker 1: I would never think of. And we're watching it on 1085 00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:29,600 Speaker 1: the sideline when I'm off on a play I got, 1086 00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:31,239 Speaker 1: he goes, and I ended up getting a sack later 1087 00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,920 Speaker 1: that game because I got a jump because of what 1088 00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,680 Speaker 1: DeMarcus Ware told me on the sideline. If if, if 1089 00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,319 Speaker 1: Drake can do that for guys like Hop and I 1090 00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,640 Speaker 1: mean he's already arguably the best in the league, but 1091 00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,320 Speaker 1: anybody part of that receiving crew or anything he sees 1092 00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,600 Speaker 1: in defensive backs, tendencies or anything that he kind of 1093 00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,800 Speaker 1: sees eyes of a guy who's, in my opinion, should 1094 00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:52,640 Speaker 1: go to the Hall of Fame. And Dwear's definitely going 1095 00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:54,920 Speaker 1: to the Hall of Fame. Having that just a round 1096 00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,600 Speaker 1: your organization and just those little nuances that make those 1097 00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,799 Speaker 1: guys great, I think it's invaluable now if Drey wants 1098 00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:02,680 Speaker 1: to do it. I don't know, but I mean I 1099 00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:04,439 Speaker 1: think that would be a really kind of cool role 1100 00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:07,360 Speaker 1: to have him kind of around what's the best job 1101 00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:11,440 Speaker 1: opening coaching wise in the league. And it's also structure 1102 00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:15,239 Speaker 1: of organization, not just personnel that's in existence with that 1103 00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:17,799 Speaker 1: organization right now, what do you think it's Cleveland? I mean, 1104 00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,480 Speaker 1: it's easy. I mean, it's it's the number of young 1105 00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:23,759 Speaker 1: talented players you have, It's an unbelievable amount of cap 1106 00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,879 Speaker 1: space that you have. You have a really really good 1107 00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:30,719 Speaker 1: general manager in John Dorsey, and you have a quarterback 1108 00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,120 Speaker 1: lined up. Now that's why you look at all these 1109 00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:34,480 Speaker 1: I mean there are a lot a lot of them 1110 00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:38,000 Speaker 1: are intriguing. You have Aaron Rodgers, who can be your quarterback. Obviously, 1111 00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,680 Speaker 1: you have you know, Sam Darnold, Josh Rosen, Baker Mayfield, 1112 00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:44,000 Speaker 1: all guys taken this year. That's why Denver's a little 1113 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:45,680 Speaker 1: bit different. Don't know what's going on the quarterback and 1114 00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,879 Speaker 1: same with Miami. But I think that's just that's just 1115 00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:52,200 Speaker 1: the spot because they've already put it in the right 1116 00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:55,440 Speaker 1: direction in the back half of this season. I mean, 1117 00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:57,919 Speaker 1: what a turnaround. And so you look at the most 1118 00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,959 Speaker 1: important positions in all of football is the quarterback spot. 1119 00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,160 Speaker 1: They have it, star pass rusher, they have it. Knocked 1120 00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:06,640 Speaker 1: down corner, they have it. They have a pretty good 1121 00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:08,400 Speaker 1: offensive line. I mean, look at the spots that you 1122 00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:12,799 Speaker 1: pay players. They have those locked up on rookie salaries. Yep. 1123 00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:16,879 Speaker 1: So it's it's it's really, it's a really who would 1124 00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:18,360 Speaker 1: have ever thought we'd be saying it, But it's a 1125 00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:22,360 Speaker 1: really marketable job in a division. Also that's changing that 1126 00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:25,759 Speaker 1: you can probably own for the next six seven years 1127 00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:27,800 Speaker 1: if you look at the direction that the chaos and 1128 00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:32,520 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh has and since I mean, I mean you could 1129 00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:35,120 Speaker 1: really in Cleveland, if you get this together right away 1130 00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,239 Speaker 1: and build off of what they did the second half, 1131 00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:38,920 Speaker 1: you might be able to own that division for the 1132 00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,960 Speaker 1: next couple of years. Oh my gosh, what an opportunity. 1133 00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:43,279 Speaker 1: All right, So what do you have coming out by 1134 00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,480 Speaker 1: the NFL network? This we have also, I mean, we 1135 00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,719 Speaker 1: have so many people coming to this game. I might 1136 00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,000 Speaker 1: get lost in the shuffle we have, like I think, 1137 00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:53,719 Speaker 1: like Amos, there like five people coming for this game. 1138 00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,879 Speaker 1: But I know that we're gonna be doing um, I'm 1139 00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,279 Speaker 1: gonna be here on the sideline Saturday morning, I think 1140 00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:02,760 Speaker 1: starting nine Eastern all the way up to kickoff. Okay, 1141 00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,319 Speaker 1: so we're gonna be I mean we're gonna be. There's 1142 00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:06,719 Speaker 1: not a lot of games to talk about, so we're 1143 00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,279 Speaker 1: gonna be talking a lot of Texans football. And I'm 1144 00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:11,560 Speaker 1: doing something on Hopkins too for NFL dot Com, which 1145 00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,279 Speaker 1: should be pretty uh pretty cool. Excellent James tex for 1146 00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:16,719 Speaker 1: joining us, No problem, Mark anytime, Mark Vandamer with you 1147 00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,720 Speaker 1: in the Hunday Texans Radio studio with Eric Son and Asensio, 1148 00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,800 Speaker 1: who we've had on from time to time, the senior 1149 00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,960 Speaker 1: director of Digital Media and Strategy for the Texans. How's 1150 00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:27,960 Speaker 1: it going, Eric? Who would have thought it enough? It 1151 00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:29,920 Speaker 1: was it one in three or one of five Colts 1152 00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:31,560 Speaker 1: and no in three Texans meeting in the first round 1153 00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:34,560 Speaker 1: the playoffs just bizarre, really. I mean I think back 1154 00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:36,359 Speaker 1: to when the Colts were one in five and I thought, oh, 1155 00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:38,359 Speaker 1: they're buried. Forget about it. There's no way you can 1156 00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,040 Speaker 1: come back from that. I mean, you might be able 1157 00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,200 Speaker 1: to go on a run, but maybe maybe nine and 1158 00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,040 Speaker 1: seven if you just light it up. But the fact 1159 00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:46,719 Speaker 1: that they came all the way back to ten and 1160 00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:48,840 Speaker 1: six and made it in I mean, that's been phenomenal 1161 00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,520 Speaker 1: for them, but I don't like it when they do 1162 00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:55,440 Speaker 1: phenomenal things. So there's that. Anyway, let's talk about social 1163 00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:58,279 Speaker 1: media and this game in the NFL plays. First of all, 1164 00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,000 Speaker 1: I find it interesting when we just talk digital stuff 1165 00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:06,279 Speaker 1: streaming of NFL games, that the stream does better than 1166 00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:11,160 Speaker 1: most NBA tell of telecasts and Major League Baseball at 1167 00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:14,799 Speaker 1: all of that. Just the NFL streamed everybody TV broadcasting. Now, 1168 00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:16,560 Speaker 1: I think it's you know, it just shows you the 1169 00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:20,120 Speaker 1: power you know, football, especially in the United States of America, it's, 1170 00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,280 Speaker 1: you know, pretty clearly the most popular sport. I still 1171 00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,880 Speaker 1: think people debate, you know, like what the future will be, obviously, 1172 00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:28,360 Speaker 1: and nobody knows because the way the viewing habits are changing. 1173 00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:30,120 Speaker 1: You know, it's really interesting right now. And not to 1174 00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:32,280 Speaker 1: take it to entertainment, but you know, with the Oscars 1175 00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:34,600 Speaker 1: coming up, one of the big favorites is a movie 1176 00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:38,480 Speaker 1: called Roma and that's exclusively on Netflix, like it's something different. 1177 00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:40,640 Speaker 1: And then you have a movie like Birdbox, which has 1178 00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:43,920 Speaker 1: become a phenomenon, and that's really exactly and they released 1179 00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:46,160 Speaker 1: at forty five million people watch that, you know, over 1180 00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:48,800 Speaker 1: the past couple of weeks, So you're starting to see 1181 00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:53,240 Speaker 1: this traditional TV merging with streaming because for us, we 1182 00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,320 Speaker 1: experience it all the same. Like, right, we watch Netflix 1183 00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,600 Speaker 1: or we watch a television show, it's still on the 1184 00:57:57,600 --> 00:57:59,280 Speaker 1: same TV in our living room for the most part. 1185 00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,360 Speaker 1: I mean, it's mobile, but we're having the same experience 1186 00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:03,760 Speaker 1: even though there's two completely different pathways of how they're 1187 00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:05,120 Speaker 1: getting the content to you. So I think you're going 1188 00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:07,000 Speaker 1: to start to see that in sports as well. I 1189 00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:09,760 Speaker 1: think the movie thing is interesting because forty five million 1190 00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,080 Speaker 1: people to get forty five million people to go to 1191 00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:14,160 Speaker 1: the theaters, I mean, that just doesn't happen. They don't 1192 00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:15,480 Speaker 1: measure it that way. They measure it, you know, off 1193 00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:17,400 Speaker 1: ticket sales and how much you make, and that's how 1194 00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:20,360 Speaker 1: it's you know, received. Where Netflix is specifically, we're trying 1195 00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,240 Speaker 1: to get as many eyeballs on every type of content 1196 00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:25,600 Speaker 1: you know, that we produce. And it's funny because I 1197 00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:27,360 Speaker 1: was just joking on my Facebook page. I put all 1198 00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:29,400 Speaker 1: the top things I watched on Netflix this year, and 1199 00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,680 Speaker 1: within two comments, they were people saying, you didn't see this, well, 1200 00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:33,960 Speaker 1: you didn't see this, well you didn't see this, And 1201 00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,400 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, I feel so out of it because there 1202 00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,640 Speaker 1: were a lot of name now soa I've seen Ozark 1203 00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:40,280 Speaker 1: and a few other things, but there were some things 1204 00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:42,000 Speaker 1: I hadn't seen, so I need to go back to that. 1205 00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:44,520 Speaker 1: And people are still telling you all of all the 1206 00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:46,640 Speaker 1: things you missed. But that's the beautiful part of it, right, 1207 00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:48,480 Speaker 1: Like we're all experiencing it the way that we like 1208 00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:50,720 Speaker 1: to and the type of content. And Netflix's job is 1209 00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:52,320 Speaker 1: to put so much content up there. I think the 1210 00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:54,280 Speaker 1: number that they said, well, they're going to spend over 1211 00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:56,640 Speaker 1: twelve billion in content next year. Billion with a B. 1212 00:58:56,880 --> 00:59:00,680 Speaker 1: Did you see the SNL television parody Netflix? And they 1213 00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:03,360 Speaker 1: how they're well, but by the time you're done with 1214 00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:05,760 Speaker 1: the scroll, new content is coming out and they have 1215 00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,480 Speaker 1: this infinity sign and everything explodes. I believe, you just 1216 00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:10,640 Speaker 1: can't keep up with it. And they showed a pitch 1217 00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:13,120 Speaker 1: meeting where the guys just the woman's going through the 1218 00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:15,200 Speaker 1: pitch and before she can get through the first sentence, 1219 00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:17,640 Speaker 1: the guy's just literally throwing money. Yes, go ahead and 1220 00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:20,320 Speaker 1: make it. We love it. And you know, you and 1221 00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:25,560 Speaker 1: I were at Netflix. We were in California meeting at Netflix. 1222 00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:28,320 Speaker 1: We had coffee there. I mean, it was delightful, really, 1223 00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:32,800 Speaker 1: I mean it's wonderful place to be. And I asked 1224 00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:35,880 Speaker 1: about live events, live sporting events, because as we talk 1225 00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,800 Speaker 1: about all this stuff, the NFL does bring all these 1226 00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:42,000 Speaker 1: eyeballs in one spot in a three hour window to 1227 00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:45,240 Speaker 1: an event and to your point, live but they said, no, 1228 00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:47,240 Speaker 1: that's not what we do. And I got to credit 1229 00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:50,840 Speaker 1: them because, you know, unlike certain retail outlets or other 1230 00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:53,280 Speaker 1: businesses where they might spread themselves too thin, I mean, 1231 00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:54,960 Speaker 1: they pretty much know what they want to do right 1232 00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:58,480 Speaker 1: well for now, you know, like they weren't about prestige television, 1233 00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:00,320 Speaker 1: you know, a couple of years ago. Then the ground 1234 01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:02,880 Speaker 1: happens and then you know, Game of Thrones obviously started 1235 01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:04,520 Speaker 1: it and they're paying millions of dollars and you see 1236 01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:06,440 Speaker 1: this event and so now they have the crown and 1237 01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:09,240 Speaker 1: now they have House of Cards are you know, and 1238 01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,640 Speaker 1: like prestige televisions become a big deal, like when they 1239 01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:14,320 Speaker 1: are pitching Alfonso Quran, who's the director of Roma, to 1240 01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:16,520 Speaker 1: come do this, you know, big budget thing. You know, 1241 01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:18,400 Speaker 1: we talked about this as a movie called The Irishman 1242 01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:20,240 Speaker 1: coming out this Martin Scorsese, and that's going to be 1243 01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,800 Speaker 1: specifically on Netflix, you know, and that's like De Niro 1244 01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:25,120 Speaker 1: and Pacino. So you're starting to see these merging of 1245 01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:27,560 Speaker 1: these two worlds. And usually entertainment is before sports if 1246 01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:29,880 Speaker 1: you look at the history of how things work. Entertainment 1247 01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:32,760 Speaker 1: is always looking for revenue streams, so they're they branch 1248 01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:34,480 Speaker 1: out a little faster than sports to because sports have 1249 01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:36,720 Speaker 1: a traditional revenue stream. Every time somebody comes to the 1250 01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:39,640 Speaker 1: game or we host an entertainment event, there's revenue to 1251 01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:41,800 Speaker 1: be made there, so they're kind of trailing. And so 1252 01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:43,600 Speaker 1: you'll see now how entertainment is going to start to 1253 01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:45,480 Speaker 1: branch in these different directions. And if you're the NFL 1254 01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:47,640 Speaker 1: of the NBA or Major League Baseball or European soccer, 1255 01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:49,240 Speaker 1: which I've kind of gotten into in the past year. 1256 01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:52,800 Speaker 1: So you know, all these opportunities to broadcast your events 1257 01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:55,280 Speaker 1: are available, which one do you pick? How do you 1258 01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:57,440 Speaker 1: decide where to go? You know, how how do the 1259 01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:00,000 Speaker 1: dollars follow? How does the revenue model change you? All 1260 01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:01,720 Speaker 1: things are going to happen in the next five years, 1261 01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:03,960 Speaker 1: And you know, I can give you what I think 1262 01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:06,720 Speaker 1: might happen, but nobody knows they're gonna be the first 1263 01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:09,280 Speaker 1: time they sit down for these negotiations when maybe the 1264 01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:12,120 Speaker 1: traditional television companies won't have as much. But then Netflix 1265 01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:13,920 Speaker 1: may jump in, or maybe it's Facebook, maybe it's a 1266 01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:16,040 Speaker 1: company we've never heard of before that you know, shows up, 1267 01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:18,080 Speaker 1: whether it's Apple. Apple is spending a ton of money 1268 01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:21,280 Speaker 1: in the space. They're developing some prestige content around Jennifer 1269 01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:23,200 Speaker 1: Aniston and Steve Correll. So, like, you see all this 1270 01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:26,080 Speaker 1: stuff starting to happen, and everybody needs content, and so 1271 01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:28,120 Speaker 1: where is it all going to end up? Because eventually 1272 01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:30,080 Speaker 1: we're gonna have ten different services where you're paying ten 1273 01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:31,720 Speaker 1: dollars a month and that's not gonna last because we're 1274 01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:33,040 Speaker 1: not gonna want to do that. You're gonna get into 1275 01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:35,640 Speaker 1: a different version of the cab and then you know, 1276 01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:38,160 Speaker 1: that's where the NFL and the NBA will decide. Okay, 1277 01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:40,640 Speaker 1: how are we being viewed? Because so much of it 1278 01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:44,439 Speaker 1: now is about I want my content now in any 1279 01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:46,600 Speaker 1: place that I go. I want it portable with me. Right. 1280 01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:48,520 Speaker 1: You know, you may start watching your Netflix show on 1281 01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:50,000 Speaker 1: your TV, but then you may continue it on your 1282 01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:51,720 Speaker 1: iPad and download it and then you make it to 1283 01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:53,840 Speaker 1: your hotel room and stream it up there. I watch 1284 01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:55,880 Speaker 1: on my phone. That's what I'm saying so like, there's 1285 01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:58,040 Speaker 1: so many options available and it's a fun time now 1286 01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:01,160 Speaker 1: to be a content creator or consumers. So much out there, 1287 01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:02,840 Speaker 1: but in the end there's gonna be some atrophe and 1288 01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:05,160 Speaker 1: we're gonna have to figure out from a league perspective, 1289 01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:06,640 Speaker 1: you know, which way are we going to go and 1290 01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:08,240 Speaker 1: what makes the most sense. And there's gonna be so 1291 01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:10,200 Speaker 1: many options, more than ever before. Just think like twenty 1292 01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:12,400 Speaker 1: years ago you hit three options, you know, and that 1293 01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:15,120 Speaker 1: was it. Now you've got everybody has a streaming platformers 1294 01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:17,080 Speaker 1: coming with Disney's coming one next year. Like, it's it's 1295 01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:20,320 Speaker 1: a lot. Hey, I'm old enough to remember five channels. Okay. 1296 01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:23,600 Speaker 1: Eric sat In a Senseio, Senior Director, Digital Media Strategy 1297 01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:27,240 Speaker 1: for the Houston Texans. Okay, so what's the latest on Facebook? 1298 01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:31,600 Speaker 1: What I'm noticing in my personal experience, Instagram to me 1299 01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:33,160 Speaker 1: is a little bit more. I know, you have the 1300 01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:36,240 Speaker 1: stories and everything and video, but it reminds me a 1301 01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:39,080 Speaker 1: little bit in tone of the earlier days of Facebook. 1302 01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:41,840 Speaker 1: There's less political stuff and everything. I guess you can 1303 01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:44,120 Speaker 1: follow all that, but the way it's happening for me, 1304 01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:48,320 Speaker 1: it's a little lighter than say Facebook, which you know 1305 01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:50,840 Speaker 1: it can get a little too deep in the weeds 1306 01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:53,440 Speaker 1: uncertain topics for me. What do you think? I think 1307 01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:56,240 Speaker 1: Instagram is obviously the most popular platform in the world today, 1308 01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:58,760 Speaker 1: and it's probably the smartest investment that Facebook's ever made, 1309 01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:01,120 Speaker 1: you know, I think the most popular platform. I think 1310 01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:03,480 Speaker 1: when you look at people across all ranges and spectrums. 1311 01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:05,800 Speaker 1: I mean, you're gonna have Facebook with more users obviously, 1312 01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:08,720 Speaker 1: but just from interaction, positivity, the way people interact what's 1313 01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:11,080 Speaker 1: most valuable to us in the social space, and the 1314 01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:12,960 Speaker 1: fact too that you can't post a hundred times on 1315 01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:15,040 Speaker 1: there in a day. You know, there's some you know, 1316 01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:17,120 Speaker 1: there's some exclusivity to that. You know, like we may 1317 01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:18,920 Speaker 1: post as the Texans three or four times a day, 1318 01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:20,440 Speaker 1: and that might seem like a lot depending on your 1319 01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:22,360 Speaker 1: feed and stuff like that. So I think, you know, 1320 01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:24,160 Speaker 1: you put your best stuff there and it's just a 1321 01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:27,600 Speaker 1: little bit more interactive. But again, you don't A lot 1322 01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:29,040 Speaker 1: of people don't know because they will say, oh, I'm 1323 01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:30,960 Speaker 1: gonna delete Facebook because the things that have happened, and 1324 01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:33,480 Speaker 1: if you feel that way, that's great, But Instagram is 1325 01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:35,720 Speaker 1: owned by Facebook. You know, it's like the smartest decision 1326 01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:39,120 Speaker 1: Facebook ever made. Is to not put their branding all 1327 01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:41,120 Speaker 1: over Instagram like they try to keep it separate so 1328 01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:43,400 Speaker 1: that most people can feel like they're having a different experience. 1329 01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:44,960 Speaker 1: So you can still be on Instagram and feel how 1330 01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,960 Speaker 1: you feel about Facebook. But you know, they're all derivatives 1331 01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:49,960 Speaker 1: of Facebook if you think about it, right, Because Facebook, 1332 01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:52,240 Speaker 1: when it started, it was status updates, which essentially what 1333 01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:55,120 Speaker 1: Twitter is short little you know, anecdotes of what you're doing. 1334 01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:56,919 Speaker 1: And then you've got the photo galleries, which were big 1335 01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:00,000 Speaker 1: when Facebook first started and then pulled off and became Instagram. 1336 01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:01,920 Speaker 1: So it's like Facebook has the whole thing, and to 1337 01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:03,880 Speaker 1: your point, it gets a little hairy, and you know, 1338 01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:05,720 Speaker 1: there's different ways to communicate, and that's where you can 1339 01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:07,640 Speaker 1: kind of get into some you know, some places you 1340 01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:09,360 Speaker 1: don't want to be. But Instagram and Twitter for the 1341 01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:11,680 Speaker 1: most part, in the Twitter's i mean obviously negative as well, 1342 01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:13,680 Speaker 1: but you've got a simple thing that you're going there 1343 01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:16,800 Speaker 1: for content, news or picture, you know, So it simplifies 1344 01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:18,880 Speaker 1: it a little bit and makes it easier to interact 1345 01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:21,120 Speaker 1: with or as a post Facebook, you're giving everything and 1346 01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:22,800 Speaker 1: that can open up all kind of doors, all right, 1347 01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:25,919 Speaker 1: So Twitter is different now than it was even maybe 1348 01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:28,000 Speaker 1: a year ago, right, because what I notice is I 1349 01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:31,600 Speaker 1: log on, And it used to be if somebody likes it, 1350 01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:33,920 Speaker 1: if you like a tweet, for instance, it'll pop to 1351 01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:35,880 Speaker 1: the top of my feet. Oh, Eric liked this, even 1352 01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:39,040 Speaker 1: though I might not be following that particular tweeter if 1353 01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:43,040 Speaker 1: you will that twitterer, and it exposes you to different things. 1354 01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:46,680 Speaker 1: But it used to just be a straight line, chronological feed. 1355 01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:48,960 Speaker 1: Now it's all over the place. So what's happening there? Well, 1356 01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:50,840 Speaker 1: I'm now they had to go back to both. So 1357 01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:53,160 Speaker 1: there's an option. Now if you open Twitter on your 1358 01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:54,680 Speaker 1: phone and the top right there it looks like these 1359 01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:56,600 Speaker 1: kind of little sparkles. It'll give you the option to 1360 01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:59,560 Speaker 1: either see tweets chronologically because a lot of people, especially 1361 01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:01,920 Speaker 1: like us who are on it more, want that version 1362 01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:03,680 Speaker 1: of it and want that platform where we can just 1363 01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:05,479 Speaker 1: see it in order. But then some people that don't 1364 01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:07,320 Speaker 1: sign in a ton maybe sign in once or twice 1365 01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:10,040 Speaker 1: a day. You still have the top tweets option, which 1366 01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:12,720 Speaker 1: means that you'll get you know, what they think algorithmically 1367 01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:15,040 Speaker 1: fits with you know, who you follow or what you've 1368 01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:17,160 Speaker 1: interacted with before. So there's kind of two versions going 1369 01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:20,640 Speaker 1: on at once. Twitter's you know, really interesting spot because 1370 01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:22,320 Speaker 1: you know they've got some issues as well. They don't 1371 01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:25,800 Speaker 1: get as much negative publicity, but obviously, you know, like 1372 01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:28,120 Speaker 1: the negativity and we know this, you know, just in 1373 01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:30,040 Speaker 1: a little but we use it and the followers that 1374 01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:32,600 Speaker 1: we have. It's a place where everybody feels like snark 1375 01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:35,960 Speaker 1: is okay and like it's not the most positive place sometimes. 1376 01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:37,760 Speaker 1: And so you know, I think all these social and 1377 01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:39,920 Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff going on with what is 1378 01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:43,760 Speaker 1: the psychology behind that? Well, you know it's still and 1379 01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:46,000 Speaker 1: people should know better because people lose their jobs now 1380 01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:48,240 Speaker 1: left and right over things that they put on social media, 1381 01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:50,880 Speaker 1: but they still feel like some level of anonymity towards it. 1382 01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:52,920 Speaker 1: So like I would never say something to your face 1383 01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:55,600 Speaker 1: that I may you know, some people feel comfortable saying 1384 01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:57,640 Speaker 1: online because there is that kind of mask there. I mean, 1385 01:05:57,640 --> 01:05:59,960 Speaker 1: it's changing because now when you you know, make comments, 1386 01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:02,080 Speaker 1: sticking easily track or at least if they really want 1387 01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:03,400 Speaker 1: to find out who you are and then it gets 1388 01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:04,680 Speaker 1: back to you. I mean you've seen, you know, tons 1389 01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:06,800 Speaker 1: of people lose their job. But the thing is, you know, 1390 01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:09,600 Speaker 1: like in a perfect world, social would function in this 1391 01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:12,520 Speaker 1: kind of you know, utopic way, but it just doesn't 1392 01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:14,480 Speaker 1: because that's the way people are, right, Like, we've all 1393 01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:17,280 Speaker 1: got things that we're passionate about, whether we disagree with you, 1394 01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:19,440 Speaker 1: and now we all have voices. You know. The best 1395 01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:21,360 Speaker 1: thing about social is that now everybody has a voice. 1396 01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:23,520 Speaker 1: The worst thing is that everybody has a voice. So 1397 01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:26,120 Speaker 1: you know, like there's just kind of huge collection of 1398 01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:27,840 Speaker 1: noise that's going out there. You're just trying to filter 1399 01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:29,600 Speaker 1: through and figure it out. How big a week is 1400 01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:32,800 Speaker 1: this for the Texans on the social media platforms? It's huge, right, 1401 01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:34,720 Speaker 1: you know, I wish we play Sunday selfishly just so 1402 01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:37,640 Speaker 1: we can get the extra time period. It almost feels 1403 01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:40,240 Speaker 1: a little rushed, especially when you're you know, we coordinate 1404 01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:42,240 Speaker 1: a lot, and we've talked about this before with marketing 1405 01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:44,400 Speaker 1: and corporate. You know, our partners want to be involved. 1406 01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:46,200 Speaker 1: We're doing great stuff in the community this week. So 1407 01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:48,480 Speaker 1: so social is distribution channel that lets you know what's 1408 01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:50,440 Speaker 1: going on. So we almost run out of spots in 1409 01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:52,680 Speaker 1: some degree because you're trying to pump out so much content. 1410 01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:55,439 Speaker 1: You want to enjoy this moment because, as you've mentioned before, 1411 01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:57,120 Speaker 1: you wrote a great you know You've wrote great articles 1412 01:06:57,120 --> 01:06:59,400 Speaker 1: about this. Once the season ends, it's over. Yeah, you know, 1413 01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:01,160 Speaker 1: God forbid it, and you know, knocking well, we do 1414 01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:02,760 Speaker 1: not lose on Satday. But if we do Sunday, the 1415 01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:04,680 Speaker 1: season is over. It's no like we got three or 1416 01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:06,240 Speaker 1: four days to keep this going. Like you see the 1417 01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:09,080 Speaker 1: Hountain and then you drop. So you're trying to maximize 1418 01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:11,240 Speaker 1: everything you can. And you know, we did some great 1419 01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:13,760 Speaker 1: videos that we're Houston Basis week, the little flip stuff 1420 01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:15,480 Speaker 1: we did, you know, the stuff we do with j. J. 1421 01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:17,360 Speaker 1: Watt and his strut and Connor McGregor. I mean, we're 1422 01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:19,720 Speaker 1: trying to do some interesting things to keep people excited 1423 01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:21,800 Speaker 1: and get people pump because to your point, we're not 1424 01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:24,280 Speaker 1: in this spot. Often there's no guarantee you make the playoffs, 1425 01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:26,680 Speaker 1: and this year more than any And I'm sure you've 1426 01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:29,439 Speaker 1: covered this on lots of different shows this week. Every 1427 01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:31,720 Speaker 1: team is flawed. You know, I could easily see us 1428 01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:33,959 Speaker 1: making the Super Bowl. I can easily see us losing 1429 01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:36,760 Speaker 1: this weekend like that. Every team has all these different 1430 01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:39,080 Speaker 1: things that don't make them perfect. Like the Patriots seem 1431 01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:41,360 Speaker 1: more vulnerable than ever. Kansas City's defense struggles, but they 1432 01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:43,280 Speaker 1: can score fifty on you. You know, like all these 1433 01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:45,480 Speaker 1: different teams have these things where you can see them succeed, 1434 01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:47,560 Speaker 1: sameything with the Colts, right, and then you can also 1435 01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:49,320 Speaker 1: see them, well, they have this thing that doesn't work 1436 01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:51,280 Speaker 1: well for them. You know, their defense doesn't play well 1437 01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:53,400 Speaker 1: or their offensive line is struggling. So like to me, 1438 01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:56,840 Speaker 1: there's never been a more imperfect AFC. And that's an 1439 01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:58,720 Speaker 1: exciting thing, but it's also a little frightening because you 1440 01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:00,360 Speaker 1: don't know what's going to happen which and make it 1441 01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:03,080 Speaker 1: fun to watch. You started here in twenty thirteen, so 1442 01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:05,160 Speaker 1: that five years already. That wasn't a great year to 1443 01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:08,640 Speaker 1: start record wise, but mattch Shop was the quarterback going 1444 01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:10,280 Speaker 1: into that year. And then you look and he was 1445 01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:12,640 Speaker 1: on Twitter I think for a while, maybe a little 1446 01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:15,040 Speaker 1: by then he was already backing off. He had an 1447 01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:17,560 Speaker 1: account though I know that, and you know Arie and 1448 01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:20,800 Speaker 1: at an account still does obviously. But when you look 1449 01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:23,160 Speaker 1: at these guys now, Eric, when you look at Deshaan 1450 01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:26,080 Speaker 1: Watson and the way he's on social media and Hopkins, 1451 01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:28,680 Speaker 1: I mean, these guys are are out there with it. 1452 01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:30,960 Speaker 1: That's where the news happens, That's where the news happens. 1453 01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:32,800 Speaker 1: You know, we talk about this a lot. There's two 1454 01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:34,559 Speaker 1: different types of people when it comes to social media. 1455 01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:36,960 Speaker 1: There's immigrants people you know, my age and your age 1456 01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:38,920 Speaker 1: that happened during our lifetimes. And then there's people like 1457 01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:41,639 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson and his group that have never known anything 1458 01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:44,960 Speaker 1: other than this, right, so like it's their way of communication, 1459 01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:46,840 Speaker 1: you know, it's their first thing that they want to do. 1460 01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:48,280 Speaker 1: You know, we talked about this all the time. You 1461 01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:51,040 Speaker 1: go to a concert, instead of actually watching the concert, 1462 01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:53,439 Speaker 1: the thing you see everybody with their phone up recording 1463 01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:54,960 Speaker 1: the moment so that they can show off to their 1464 01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:56,800 Speaker 1: friends that they were here. And that's just kind of 1465 01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:59,360 Speaker 1: the nature of where we are now. And you know, 1466 01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:01,680 Speaker 1: it's if you don't feel good about what you're doing 1467 01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:03,360 Speaker 1: in the digital space, if you're a business or anything 1468 01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:05,719 Speaker 1: like that, that concern is never going to get any smaller. 1469 01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:08,120 Speaker 1: You know, we can be like, oh, I wish you know, 1470 01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:10,000 Speaker 1: we could put the things this is the boat has 1471 01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:11,560 Speaker 1: left the dock. You know, this is the way that 1472 01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:14,479 Speaker 1: we're going to operate as a society. So we've got 1473 01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:16,400 Speaker 1: to find these ways to either you know, be smart, 1474 01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:19,200 Speaker 1: be creative about it. But the way people feel like you. 1475 01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:21,280 Speaker 1: You know, your kids are probably upstairs or at their 1476 01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:24,400 Speaker 1: home watching iPads. They can probably use technology better than you, 1477 01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:26,040 Speaker 1: and this is just what they're going to become comfortable 1478 01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:27,439 Speaker 1: with in ten or fifteen years from now. It's going 1479 01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:30,120 Speaker 1: to be even more than norm So college football, the 1480 01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:35,679 Speaker 1: championship is Monday back, so it's very different social media wise, 1481 01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:40,479 Speaker 1: how NFL teams handle their business and college football programs 1482 01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:43,519 Speaker 1: handle their business. And recruiting is the main thrust behind that, 1483 01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:46,080 Speaker 1: for sure? Yeah? For sure? I mean, and so explain 1484 01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:48,160 Speaker 1: that now? Is that that's the way you get kids 1485 01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:53,200 Speaker 1: or that's a legal way to consistently publicize yourself, right, Yeah, 1486 01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:55,320 Speaker 1: haven't worked in both. I was at the SEC before this. 1487 01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:58,840 Speaker 1: The way college views it is there's buying. They may 1488 01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:01,000 Speaker 1: not want to do it, but they understand the importance 1489 01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:02,519 Speaker 1: of it because they look at it as a strict 1490 01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:05,280 Speaker 1: way I can recruit. I'm Dabbo Sweeney, I'm Nick Saban. 1491 01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:07,479 Speaker 1: You know, I know the way that I'm going to 1492 01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:10,439 Speaker 1: connect or get attention for the young kids that are 1493 01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:12,160 Speaker 1: fifteen to seventeen that I'm trying to recruit. Where are 1494 01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:13,960 Speaker 1: They're on social media? So I need to be there 1495 01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:17,639 Speaker 1: as well. Doesn't mean that, you know, they do fantastic stuff, 1496 01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:20,280 Speaker 1: but they understand the space is valuable, whereas in the NFL, 1497 01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:23,439 Speaker 1: you know, you're still trying to approach it form more 1498 01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:25,360 Speaker 1: of a storytelling aspect. You know, we want to tell 1499 01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:27,840 Speaker 1: the stories of our players. Bill O'Brien doesn't necessarily see 1500 01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:31,559 Speaker 1: a functional advantage in us using social media for Sunday, right, 1501 01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:34,639 Speaker 1: But it's it's not just him, I mean, yeah, most 1502 01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:36,599 Speaker 1: NFL coaches are like that. They view it more as 1503 01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:39,240 Speaker 1: a distraction because for them, you know, I don't see 1504 01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:41,439 Speaker 1: a tangible benefit from us doing this. I think that's 1505 01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:42,880 Speaker 1: our job, and you do a great job this as 1506 01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:44,800 Speaker 1: a leader of our department of explaining the importance of 1507 01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:48,160 Speaker 1: it within our organization so that we can then you know, 1508 01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:50,439 Speaker 1: tell stories, connect with our players and it's you know, 1509 01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:52,519 Speaker 1: it's a fun way to do that. Whereas in college 1510 01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:54,760 Speaker 1: they do all that, and you know, they also have 1511 01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:56,680 Speaker 1: the opportunity to say, listen, you know, this is the 1512 01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:58,599 Speaker 1: way that we're going to recruit x y Z Kid 1513 01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:01,360 Speaker 1: because they see it. So we're going to put resources 1514 01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:03,240 Speaker 1: into it because you know, that's something that we can 1515 01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:05,600 Speaker 1: see a tangible benefit from. Eric that's a lot for 1516 01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:08,240 Speaker 1: joining us. Great stuff. We are less than forty eight 1517 01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:11,759 Speaker 1: hours away from kickoff the Texans and the Colts fifth 1518 01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:14,840 Speaker 1: playoff game ever at NRG Stadium, and what a great 1519 01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:17,400 Speaker 1: opportunity to bring in the president of the Houston Texans, 1520 01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:20,559 Speaker 1: Jamie Roots. And Jamie five out of the last eight 1521 01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:22,759 Speaker 1: years the Texans have been in the postseason and hosted 1522 01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:25,760 Speaker 1: a postseason game, and that's really remarkable stuff. Yeah, it's great. 1523 01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:28,400 Speaker 1: It's a testament to the job that Bill O'Brien's done 1524 01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:33,120 Speaker 1: with Brian Gaine helping to solidify the talent on our team. 1525 01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:34,799 Speaker 1: You look at all the young kids that are stepping 1526 01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:36,720 Speaker 1: in and making a big difference for our football team. 1527 01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:38,640 Speaker 1: Some of the things that we're able to do in 1528 01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:42,559 Speaker 1: free agency that really bolstered our roster, and certainly Bill 1529 01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:45,200 Speaker 1: and his coaching staff deserve a tremendous amount of credit 1530 01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:47,120 Speaker 1: as well as our players. I mean, we've had a 1531 01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:49,600 Speaker 1: lot of the same faces around making an impact for 1532 01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:52,320 Speaker 1: this football team and welcome new faces that are making 1533 01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:56,080 Speaker 1: a difference. I know that it's not just because of this, 1534 01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:58,439 Speaker 1: but Bill O'Brien and Brian Gaine have talked about it. 1535 01:11:58,479 --> 01:12:01,200 Speaker 1: All the changes in the building. It's been very public 1536 01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:05,360 Speaker 1: about the sports performance that are the nutritional upgrades and 1537 01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:08,120 Speaker 1: everything that makes a difference over the law Hall. Physical 1538 01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:11,120 Speaker 1: facilities absolutely make a big difference. I mean, you want 1539 01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:12,680 Speaker 1: to feel proud of where you are. You want to 1540 01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:14,800 Speaker 1: make you want to be you want to be assured 1541 01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:18,240 Speaker 1: that you have all the resources you need to be successful. 1542 01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:21,040 Speaker 1: And fortunately for us, the mcnairs have always been so 1543 01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:24,320 Speaker 1: generous and gracious and whatever it is that we need 1544 01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:26,320 Speaker 1: in order to get our job done on the field. 1545 01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:29,280 Speaker 1: Off the field, they've invested in it because they want 1546 01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:33,040 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's not a line that most respected, 1547 01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:36,160 Speaker 1: most valuable professional sports franchise in the world. That's the vision. 1548 01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:37,519 Speaker 1: So if you're going to do that, you have to 1549 01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:40,320 Speaker 1: invest behind it, and absolutely have so. Hosting for the 1550 01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:42,880 Speaker 1: third time in the last four years, it's a habit 1551 01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:45,479 Speaker 1: that we want to really be in, right, I want 1552 01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:47,519 Speaker 1: to see this a lot. Well, winning is a habit, 1553 01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:49,680 Speaker 1: I mean it is you got to learn how to win, 1554 01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:52,160 Speaker 1: and then you know you've got to stay disciplined and 1555 01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:54,920 Speaker 1: focused and continue to work because the work is what's 1556 01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:56,920 Speaker 1: gotten you there. And certainly we have a team that 1557 01:12:56,960 --> 01:12:59,280 Speaker 1: does that. Off the field. We've got the same kind 1558 01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:03,040 Speaker 1: of crew. I mean, we realize that these opportunities to 1559 01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:06,400 Speaker 1: host playoff games are limited and it's a wonderful chance 1560 01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:09,040 Speaker 1: for us to bring our fans in and celebrate the 1561 01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:11,800 Speaker 1: most awesome time of the year. Well, you and I 1562 01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:13,840 Speaker 1: have been seeing it all week, but fans coming to 1563 01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:16,439 Speaker 1: the game, we'll see it. Anybody driving by Energy Stadium 1564 01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:20,080 Speaker 1: sees the gigantic banners, the vertical ones as they playoffs, 1565 01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:21,559 Speaker 1: and there's a whole lot of other stuff as well, 1566 01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:24,240 Speaker 1: but those things really stand out to me. And let's 1567 01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:26,960 Speaker 1: you know where we're at here at this time of year. Well, 1568 01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:29,120 Speaker 1: and our fans will be coming out early and we 1569 01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:31,280 Speaker 1: encourage them too. I mean, we have the best tailgators 1570 01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:33,839 Speaker 1: in the National Football League. We'll be having the playoff 1571 01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:37,559 Speaker 1: edition of Tailgator of the Year. We'll have a chance 1572 01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:39,640 Speaker 1: to take the cap to Joe con who was the 1573 01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:44,360 Speaker 1: commissioner of Tailgating of unfortunately passed away this week, but 1574 01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:48,479 Speaker 1: he had a tremendous impact on the tailgating culture that 1575 01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:51,160 Speaker 1: we have established here. I mean, we have a role 1576 01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:54,240 Speaker 1: to play, but our tailgators are so incredible they'll be here. 1577 01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:56,920 Speaker 1: But we have ask fans getting your seats early. We 1578 01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:59,680 Speaker 1: need a tremendous home field advantage. The whole theme is 1579 01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:03,080 Speaker 1: going to be about three words, beat the Colts and 1580 01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:05,240 Speaker 1: you're gonna hear that over and over. Got some great 1581 01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:07,559 Speaker 1: entertainment for the fans. Flow Rider, who I'm a big 1582 01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:11,639 Speaker 1: fan of, multi platinum recording artists. Over one hundred million 1583 01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:14,839 Speaker 1: records sold by flow Rider. He's going to perform at halftime, 1584 01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:17,280 Speaker 1: high energy, you know, just to It's gonna be buzzing 1585 01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:19,240 Speaker 1: all day long. So make sure you get your rest 1586 01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:21,080 Speaker 1: here at the end of the week so you're ready 1587 01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:23,519 Speaker 1: to go for three hours strong for the Houston Texans, 1588 01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:26,080 Speaker 1: hopefully walk away with a victory over the Colts. Well, 1589 01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:28,360 Speaker 1: it's a big week in the NFL, no doubt. These 1590 01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:31,639 Speaker 1: matchups are terrific, starting with the Texans and the Colts. 1591 01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:33,840 Speaker 1: But what about the year that the NFL has had 1592 01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:36,120 Speaker 1: Jamie as a league. This has been a banner year 1593 01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:38,320 Speaker 1: for the National Football League. Well, hats off to the 1594 01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:42,600 Speaker 1: league staff, particularly the broadcast department. You know, guys like 1595 01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:46,880 Speaker 1: Howard Katz and and the whole crew that have really 1596 01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:50,160 Speaker 1: done a deep dive into how do we, you know, 1597 01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:53,080 Speaker 1: keep people and bring people back into the fold and 1598 01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:56,320 Speaker 1: get the next generation into the National Football League. Nice 1599 01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:59,400 Speaker 1: ratings bump this year with five percent year over years. 1600 01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:02,920 Speaker 1: It's trending right direction. Digital streams are, you know, doubling 1601 01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:05,160 Speaker 1: year over years, so that and those aren't even counted 1602 01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:08,160 Speaker 1: in those ratings. So the league's done a great job 1603 01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:10,280 Speaker 1: bringing the fans back to the game that they love 1604 01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:12,599 Speaker 1: so much. And here in Houston, our fans are back 1605 01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:15,120 Speaker 1: in a big way. Twenty two percent ratings increase year 1606 01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:18,160 Speaker 1: every year for the Houston Texans. Our priority wait list 1607 01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:23,080 Speaker 1: is approaching thirty thousand, beyond the sold out audience that 1608 01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:26,320 Speaker 1: we have here on game day. So things are heading 1609 01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:28,759 Speaker 1: in the right direction. You can never take anything for granted. 1610 01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:31,320 Speaker 1: Every game is an opportunity for us to earn the 1611 01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:34,679 Speaker 1: loyalty of our fans. You feel it here in the building. 1612 01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:36,920 Speaker 1: Sure everybody's working their tail off to make sure that 1613 01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:40,160 Speaker 1: Saturday is the best performance we've ever had and then 1614 01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:42,519 Speaker 1: we'll move on from there. Jamie Roots, president of the 1615 01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:45,160 Speaker 1: Texans with us. You mentioned the priority wait list and 1616 01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:48,400 Speaker 1: it's no small thing that the Texans have this gigantic 1617 01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:51,040 Speaker 1: list of names of people who are waiting to purchase 1618 01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:54,200 Speaker 1: season tickets if they get the opportunity, and they often 1619 01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:56,920 Speaker 1: most often don't get the opportunity. It might happen, it 1620 01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:59,679 Speaker 1: might not. But what do you attribute that to, Jamie? 1621 01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:02,559 Speaker 1: All the sellouts and everything besides the team doing well. 1622 01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:04,840 Speaker 1: We mentioned five out of the last eight years in 1623 01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:07,679 Speaker 1: the posties. That's great stuff, But how do you account 1624 01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:10,479 Speaker 1: for that? Well, Mark, I'll tell you you go from 1625 01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:15,320 Speaker 1: two years ago a playoff team right to four and twelve. 1626 01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:19,080 Speaker 1: With all the issues we faced. Last year, our turnstyle 1627 01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:23,439 Speaker 1: attendance only went down by point five percent, same number 1628 01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:26,040 Speaker 1: of people in the building, and then this year it's 1629 01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:28,639 Speaker 1: only gone up by point seven percent, because it's never 1630 01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:33,439 Speaker 1: gone down. And so I just think we've really listened 1631 01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:36,679 Speaker 1: closely to our fans. I've read over and over whoever 1632 01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:39,599 Speaker 1: owns the customer, the voice of the customer wins the day. 1633 01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:41,920 Speaker 1: And so we work very hard to make sure that 1634 01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:45,360 Speaker 1: the experience we provide for our fans is exceptional, something 1635 01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:48,960 Speaker 1: they crave, something they can't get anywhere else. And certainly 1636 01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:51,280 Speaker 1: the core of it is the game of football. Football. 1637 01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:54,519 Speaker 1: Everybody loves the game of football, but what else because 1638 01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:57,000 Speaker 1: you can watch at home, and so we're providing an 1639 01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:59,479 Speaker 1: experience here that's so engaging that people choose to get 1640 01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:01,920 Speaker 1: off their co to purchase tickets and come out and go, 1641 01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:04,360 Speaker 1: and we are so thankful for it. They provide a 1642 01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:08,600 Speaker 1: tremendous home field advantage. I love personally interact with our fans. 1643 01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:11,640 Speaker 1: They're they're so great. Yeah, I send you videos and hey, 1644 01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:14,760 Speaker 1: here's the Texans lifer, right. I mean, these people live 1645 01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:18,800 Speaker 1: for the opportunity to connect to something bigger than themselves, 1646 01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:22,480 Speaker 1: and it's our responsibility to ensure that we conduct ourselves 1647 01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:25,120 Speaker 1: at the highest level so that what they are affiliating 1648 01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:28,679 Speaker 1: with is of the greatest value possible. Well, no small 1649 01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:31,320 Speaker 1: thing in the building, and you know, people might look 1650 01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:32,840 Speaker 1: at it as a small thing, but it's really not. 1651 01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:36,080 Speaker 1: As the food and the food has really I mean, 1652 01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:38,599 Speaker 1: it's always been good, but it's unbelievable now. I mean 1653 01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:40,760 Speaker 1: I had some killings last week and I thought, you know, 1654 01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:43,760 Speaker 1: I just want to eat here, never mind restaurants around town. Well, 1655 01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:48,000 Speaker 1: you you have killings, you have ninfas on navigation, you've 1656 01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:51,559 Speaker 1: got food ruckers, you've got antones, po boys, and then 1657 01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:54,200 Speaker 1: in various places you've got throughout the year, we've had 1658 01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:58,160 Speaker 1: four James Beard award winning chefs preparing food for our 1659 01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:00,320 Speaker 1: fans here you know, Chris Shepherd, and then on down 1660 01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:03,479 Speaker 1: the line justin you and the whole crew. So anyway, 1661 01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:07,280 Speaker 1: we're trying to provide the finest dining experience that could be. 1662 01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:11,200 Speaker 1: That is a celebration of the culinary capital of the South. 1663 01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:14,000 Speaker 1: That's what our fans are expecting. Again, you're here to 1664 01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:16,360 Speaker 1: see the game, but all these other things that are around, 1665 01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:18,720 Speaker 1: the way people treat you, how easy it is to 1666 01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:21,280 Speaker 1: get in and out, the quality of the entertainment that 1667 01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:23,400 Speaker 1: we provide an addition to the game, all makes a 1668 01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:26,120 Speaker 1: big difference, and so we sweat the details. We have 1669 01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:29,960 Speaker 1: several programs throughout the offseason called one's called STEP, which 1670 01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:32,880 Speaker 1: is Success through Excellent Planning, which brings everybody involved in 1671 01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:35,200 Speaker 1: game day, figures out how we can get better and 1672 01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:37,800 Speaker 1: goes about making that happen big changes from year to year. 1673 01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:41,160 Speaker 1: And we have something called the Game Experience Management System GEMS, 1674 01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:44,960 Speaker 1: where we're always thinking about interactivity and engagement and you know, 1675 01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:46,800 Speaker 1: getting fans. You don't want to just watch the game, 1676 01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:49,800 Speaker 1: you want to participate, and those teams really do an 1677 01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:52,800 Speaker 1: excellent job your you know, Bills, it's a get better league. Right. 1678 01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:54,960 Speaker 1: It's the same thing for us off the field. You know, 1679 01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:57,160 Speaker 1: you can never ut you're either getting better or getting worse, 1680 01:18:57,200 --> 01:18:59,360 Speaker 1: and so our focus is always on Okay, that was 1681 01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:01,439 Speaker 1: really good. How do we do it even better? What 1682 01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:04,320 Speaker 1: about the bowl game? Both start sports and entertainment. You're 1683 01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:06,760 Speaker 1: also the president of that. Now that was like six 1684 01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:09,639 Speaker 1: months ago, right, It seems like it seems like forever, 1685 01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:11,360 Speaker 1: but it was. It was a great experience. We had 1686 01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:15,280 Speaker 1: a we had a great game, and two outstanding institutions 1687 01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:19,080 Speaker 1: represented great student athletes in Baylor and Vanderbilt. In fact, 1688 01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:22,040 Speaker 1: today it was rated the number one game of all 1689 01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:25,160 Speaker 1: the college bowl games inclusive of the college football playoffs 1690 01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:29,200 Speaker 1: by College College Football News. Our average attendance now is 1691 01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:31,840 Speaker 1: at sixty six thousand, which LEAK keeps us as the 1692 01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:36,040 Speaker 1: number one non CFP game for the last five years. 1693 01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:40,320 Speaker 1: We're top five overall. And we had a spectacular, energized 1694 01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:42,840 Speaker 1: crowd and that's what's most important. I mean, people want 1695 01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:45,840 Speaker 1: to come back to energy and excitement and enthusiasm, and 1696 01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:48,840 Speaker 1: we absolutely delivered it. And then outside the bowl week, 1697 01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:52,960 Speaker 1: being both teams set and these athletic directors and the 1698 01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:55,920 Speaker 1: people involved in the administration have been to bowls all 1699 01:19:55,960 --> 01:19:58,320 Speaker 1: over the country, including the very best, like the Rose 1700 01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:02,000 Speaker 1: Bowl said the best bowl experience that they've ever had. 1701 01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:04,240 Speaker 1: And that's really important to us, not only because that's 1702 01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:06,680 Speaker 1: our job, that's what we're trying to get accomplished, but 1703 01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:09,000 Speaker 1: it helps to build the brand of Houston. These are 1704 01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:11,360 Speaker 1: people coming from all over the country, may have never 1705 01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:14,840 Speaker 1: been here before, and if they're treated with truly authentic 1706 01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:18,040 Speaker 1: Texas style hospitality, they're gonna go back and tell their 1707 01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:22,560 Speaker 1: friends how great Houston is. The economic impact is absolutely unquestioned. 1708 01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:24,479 Speaker 1: And so this is our thirteenth year, but I think 1709 01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:26,960 Speaker 1: the best is the best is yet to come. Well, 1710 01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:28,679 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a big year for Lone Star Sports 1711 01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:32,160 Speaker 1: and entertainment with the Texas Kickoff, the Advocate of Texas Kickoff. 1712 01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:34,679 Speaker 1: It's gonna be Washington State and the University of Houston's 1713 01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:38,120 Speaker 1: you have Holgerson versus Mike Leach. This is awesome. Cougars 1714 01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:40,479 Speaker 1: versus Cougars. I guess you can't use that when you're 1715 01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:42,400 Speaker 1: calling the game right and then so that is a 1716 01:20:42,439 --> 01:20:45,240 Speaker 1: great way to start the college football season for us. 1717 01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:48,960 Speaker 1: And then of course we're bringing Texas and Rice. You know, 1718 01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:52,439 Speaker 1: an old Southwest Conference showdown that will have to day. 1719 01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:54,960 Speaker 1: It's back to back days, so we're gonna we're gonna 1720 01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:57,080 Speaker 1: have to hump it. So but anyway, when you have 1721 01:20:57,120 --> 01:20:59,000 Speaker 1: those opportunities, you got to slot them in and that 1722 01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:00,840 Speaker 1: so that first game is going to be great with 1723 01:21:01,560 --> 01:21:04,479 Speaker 1: Washington State and University of Houston. Anytime we can have 1724 01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:06,800 Speaker 1: our two great institutions in our building, we want to 1725 01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:09,640 Speaker 1: do that battle the Ponnie Woods. You know, it continues 1726 01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:13,799 Speaker 1: right here. We've got Gold Cup that'll be coming to Houston. 1727 01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:16,639 Speaker 1: We'll be hosting one of the opening round matches probably 1728 01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:19,160 Speaker 1: do include Mexico, although we haven't heard that one hundred 1729 01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:22,040 Speaker 1: percent for sure yet. And then and then the Bowl 1730 01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:25,160 Speaker 1: game and who knows what else we'll pull off. All right, Jamie, 1731 01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:27,439 Speaker 1: thanks allot for joining us. Good luck this Saturday. Thank 1732 01:21:27,439 --> 01:21:30,080 Speaker 1: you Mark. So our two hour adventure comes to it, 1733 01:21:30,160 --> 01:21:33,280 Speaker 1: and what a show this was with John McClain, John Harris, 1734 01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:36,519 Speaker 1: James Palmer, Eric Sono the Cencio. Jamie roots a lot 1735 01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:38,240 Speaker 1: of fun stuff, a lot of deep dives and do 1736 01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:40,040 Speaker 1: a lot of different things, and that's the way we 1737 01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:43,479 Speaker 1: like it. Tomorrow night, Johnny Harris, has you Matt Taylor, 1738 01:21:43,640 --> 01:21:46,599 Speaker 1: Voice of the Colts, among others, will be on. Andre 1739 01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:48,880 Speaker 1: Howe at DPCITO. We've got a great show for you. 1740 01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:51,720 Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien, we'll be on as well, So let's get 1741 01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:54,640 Speaker 1: into that tomorrow and all the TV shows we have 1742 01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:57,719 Speaker 1: starting out Saturday. I'm just gonna promote one here nine 1743 01:21:57,760 --> 01:22:01,120 Speaker 1: thirty am on KPRC Local two. It's Texans Game Day 1744 01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:04,120 Speaker 1: with Bill O'Brien, Randy mcilvoy and me. Geez I promoted 1745 01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:06,280 Speaker 1: something with me and and how dare I? This is 1746 01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:08,880 Speaker 1: what I do? Okay, anyway, it's great to have you listening. 1747 01:22:08,920 --> 01:22:10,679 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for being a part of it. Tonight, 1748 01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:12,000 Speaker 1: Go Texans.