WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Who Steps Up? 0:00:04.960 --> 0:00:07.480 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:07.520 --> 0:00:18.920 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:22.279 Training live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the 0:00:22.360 --> 0:00:37.720 Star in Frisco. Says, It's another Tuesday edition of Talking 0:00:37.840 --> 0:00:41.319 Cowboys here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com as we sit 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:45.879 through the entirety of this Dallas Cowboys offseason and what 0:00:45.960 --> 0:00:49.239 has been a crazy offseason for the Dallas Cowboys, and 0:00:49.280 --> 0:00:51.320 we are going to continue to do our best to 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:54.040 break it down for you as we near the twenty 0:00:54.120 --> 0:00:58.160 twenty hopefully training camp coming up in late July. Once again, 0:00:58.200 --> 0:01:02.400 the Talking Cowboys crew, Rob Philip Harrison, Isaiah stand Back, 0:01:02.480 --> 0:01:06.000 our residence, super Bowl Champion, and myself Kyle Yeoman's all 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:11.759 socially distant from our respective SWBC Mortgage studios and guys, 0:01:11.760 --> 0:01:13.920 I gotta tell you, I feel like we get the 0:01:13.959 --> 0:01:16.600 short end of the stick every now and again whenever 0:01:16.600 --> 0:01:19.440 it comes to the timing of our show being on Tuesdays. 0:01:19.560 --> 0:01:22.560 I love the Tuesday slot, but it always seems like 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:26.080 the top storylines and the fun things with the Cowboys 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:31.000 this offseason happened either Tuesday afternoon, Wednesday or Thursday because 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:34.200 last week. It was really kind of quiet leading up 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:36.920 into Tuesday, and then Tuesday afternoon, all of a sudden, 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:41.319 Alden Smith is reinstated, and now the Cowboys have a 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:44.120 little bit more depth at that right defensive in spot. Yeah, 0:01:44.120 --> 0:01:46.559 we can clap for that. Yeah, we've got Alden Smith back. 0:01:46.800 --> 0:01:49.200 But then you've got the Jamal Adams fun that happens 0:01:49.280 --> 0:01:51.120 later in the week. But heck, we're kind of on 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:53.400 the short end here in terms of the timing of 0:01:53.480 --> 0:01:56.360 us talking about this stuff in that jacked up man, 0:01:56.400 --> 0:01:58.520 I feel the same way. I mean, we have got 0:01:58.520 --> 0:02:01.480 to get in the news cycle that happens before Tuesday, 0:02:01.520 --> 0:02:04.880 so we have something to talk about, but everybody else 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:07.000 kind of but by the time it gets to us, 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:09.919 you know, we're still muddy in the water. We're dragging 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:12.120 that same topic. But at the same time, we make 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:15.359 it so fun. It looks so good. Oh. I like that, 0:02:15.400 --> 0:02:17.680 it sounds so good because we've got guys like Rob 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:20.200 Phillips on the line as well. Because Rob, I mean, 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:23.280 you were pretty quick on that Aldon Smith news last week, 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:25.320 and we even kind of alluded to it going into 0:02:25.360 --> 0:02:28.959 the deal. Yeah, and you know what, it is a 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:33.119 situation where the Cowboys had to wait for the NFL's 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:35.200 timing to get it done. I don't think the Cowboys 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:37.360 really knew when it was going to happen, or for 0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:40.000 sure it was going to happen, because it just comes 0:02:40.000 --> 0:02:43.880 down to what Roger Goodell wants to do at his discretion. 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:46.720 But I heard some applause from somebody on the crew, 0:02:46.800 --> 0:02:49.760 and that's well founded because this is a guy that 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:52.679 has forty seven and a half sacks in fifty nine 0:02:52.919 --> 0:02:55.519 career games, and I don't think they're asking him to 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:57.920 be a nineteen and a half sack guy like he 0:02:58.000 --> 0:03:01.600 was in San Francisco. Just just moneyball this thing, you know, 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:04.960 the movie with Brad pet just help piece together what 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:11.839 Robert Quinn did for them last season. And that's kind 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:14.040 of the key, is to have a guy like old 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:16.519 and Smith come in and not necessarily be an all pro. 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:18.600 You're not gonna get that same type of player like 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:21.200 he was in San Francisco, as Rob just alluded to. 0:03:21.680 --> 0:03:23.880 You're gonna have to have somebody who's gonna be a 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:27.560 part of a team and bring some experience, bring some 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:30.400 leadership into that locker room. In Isaiah, you're the one 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:32.160 that's been in a locker room like that. What's it 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:35.440 like maybe playing with a player knowing that a guy 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:38.200 has taken some time off at least gotten a broad 0:03:38.280 --> 0:03:40.440 view of football and being able to bring that into 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:43.360 his game. Yeah, I think he's gonna be coming in. Obviously, 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:45.760 he's gonna be free. You know. That's that's number one. 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:47.240 He said it. Man has had a lot of time. 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:49.480 He got as we like to say, he has fresh legs, 0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:51.800 you know, so we gotta fear of fresh legs coming 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:53.560 in the locker room. I think with his pass, I 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:55.240 think he'll probably come in and be a lot more 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:57.680 mute than than you probably typically would from a VET. 0:03:58.040 --> 0:03:59.440 So he'll come in because he knows he has to 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:02.080 reestab himself as a player, and he has to re 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:05.400 establish himself as a leader, especially in a new locker room. 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:07.160 So I think, you know, he comes in, he come 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:08.880 in with all that experience, and I think it's gonna 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:10.320 be a great thing. But you know, and then he'll 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:12.280 probably just be quiet and just let his game play, 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:15.560 you know, show a short self. Hey, I want to 0:04:15.560 --> 0:04:18.080 make sure that I piggyback off of what you just said, Isaiah, 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:21.240 because I feel the same way about Aldon Smith. I 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:25.279 think there's this what if associated with him and also 0:04:25.400 --> 0:04:28.839 Randy Gregory and the you know, being reinstated. But I 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:31.880 know for a lot of people there is the five 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:35.280 year layoff and people just wondering how effective it is 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:38.040 Aldon Smith's gonna be. For me, I just feel like 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:40.400 that five years, Yeah, he's gonna be a little rusty, 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:43.599 but for the position that he plays, it's not gonna 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:46.960 be as much of a lag as most people are thinking. 0:04:47.000 --> 0:04:49.559 I think if he played a skill position like maybe 0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:53.200 receiver or running back or even dB, that five year 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:56.000 a layoff maybe you know, may have affected his game. Again, 0:04:56.040 --> 0:04:57.960 I'm not expecting him to come back and maybe be 0:04:58.040 --> 0:05:01.440 and I wish, I hope he's a that guy. But 0:05:01.560 --> 0:05:04.320 at the same time, I just think him being effective 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:08.200 and also looking at Randy Gregory as well going into 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:13.960 the fold, guys, I just have a lot of hope 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:17.000 for this position because I feel as though we are 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:20.680 going to have a great opportunity with Alvin Smith in 0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:24.520 this defense and we'll get into that right defensive spot, 0:05:25.279 --> 0:05:28.000 defensive end spot rather a little bit later on than 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:30.080 the show. Now, this is gonna be a fun show. 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:31.880 We're talking about a lot of the trouble spots of 0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:33.640 the Dallas Cowboys. We're gonna answer a lot of your 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:38.480 questions the defensive line, tight end position, and also the cornerbacks. 0:05:38.480 --> 0:05:40.640 We're going to go through all three of those positions 0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:42.680 in depth over the course of the next hour. So 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:45.560 stick around because we've got plenty of stuff to go 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:48.280 along with. But sticking with this defensive line. Last week, 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:52.440 we kind of compared Tank Lawrence as one of those guys, 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:56.000 DeMarcus Lawrence as the leader on that defense, somebody that 0:05:56.080 --> 0:05:58.040 needs to step up after having a little bit of 0:05:58.080 --> 0:06:00.400 a down here. Now he was coming off of shoulders surgery, 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:02.760 kind of got off to a slow start, only had 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:05.560 single digit sacks. Can he get back to that double 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:09.080 digit sacks? Sure's I'm sure that's on. That's the docket 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:11.560 for Tank Lawrence, But Rob I kind of want to 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:14.360 ask about just the factor of him being a leader 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:16.760 with a lot of these younger guys and veterans all 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:19.600 kind of meshing together. Noville Gallimore, Don Terry Poe, you 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:21.480 got Jerry McCoy that's now in the middle of that 0:06:21.520 --> 0:06:24.039 defensive line, Bradley and I on the other side, what 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:26.360 kind of role is tank Lawrence going to have in 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:29.960 terms of bringing those two groups together. Well, that's a 0:06:29.960 --> 0:06:32.520 great point. I think he's got to be more of 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:35.640 that vocal guy on the defensive side of the ball, 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:37.120 and I think that was kind of a new role 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:39.640 for him last year. I think they they put that 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:41.960 on him to be more of that locker room presence. 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:45.400 I think talking to him last year, I think from 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:48.320 a production standpoint for him, one of the issues he 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:51.400 had was the time he missed coming off the surgery 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:54.240 and training camp, and I one thing for him was 0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:57.960 the technical side of things, just working on his moves, 0:06:57.960 --> 0:07:01.880 his counters. He just know if his timing was what 0:07:01.920 --> 0:07:03.839 it normally is, and it took him a few weeks 0:07:04.120 --> 0:07:06.200 to get going on it. I know he faces double 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:09.440 teams and the guy's efforts down after down is so 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:13.840 good that I think his production you really have to 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:16.080 watch the tape back to see what he does beyond 0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:19.320 just what the sacks are. But to your point, yes, 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:22.320 he's a vocal guy, but needs to be. But another 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:25.320 guy that they need to get back for two reasons 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:28.600 on the field off the field is Tyrone Cross. That 0:07:28.720 --> 0:07:31.200 is that is a guy that that DeMarcus has leaned 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:34.880 on for years and he can be so valuable to 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:36.680 them in terms of giving them reps at a couple 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:39.720 of different spots, but also bringing along those younger guys. 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:49.920 Like you said, he did it again, Robin again. Uh, 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:52.360 you know, like you said, it's it's true. I mean 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:54.480 that that was a big void left in as far 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:57.160 as the leadership on the defensive line, and I think 0:07:57.200 --> 0:08:00.200 to take Lawrence again, to your point, Rob has had 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:03.640 to fill those shoes. But guys, don't fool yourself. I mean, 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:08.480 most offensive coordinators have to identify where Tank Lawrence is 0:08:08.520 --> 0:08:11.600 because he is a game plan wrecker. If you look 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:14.680 at last season, you know teams were not just leaving 0:08:14.760 --> 0:08:17.400 him by himself on an island. They were shipping him, 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:19.800 double teaming him. And they're gonna have to do the 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:22.760 same thing this year. But the difference is is that 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:25.240 you have a guy in Done Terry Poe that is 0:08:25.280 --> 0:08:28.160 also going to have to be double teamed as well. 0:08:28.440 --> 0:08:30.800 And so if you relegate or just say hey, I'm 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:33.480 just gonna have my center be on Done Terry Poe 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:36.120 by myself, it's gonna be a long NiFe for whoever 0:08:36.160 --> 0:08:39.040 that person is, because Done Terry Poe is a big 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:45.839 human person. He's big and so person you have to 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:48.760 double you have to double team him. But that also 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:53.320 leads me to Gerald McCoy. Gerald McCoy once upon a 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:55.680 time was a bad man in this league and people 0:08:56.080 --> 0:08:58.480 said they put some respect on his name when they 0:08:58.520 --> 0:09:02.240 talk about Gerald McCoy. And now, I mean, and like 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:05.559 most things that happened with you know, contracts guys, he 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:08.679 ended up leaving Tampa because of his contract and went 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:11.840 to play in Carolina. And if you look at that 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:14.079 tape from last year and Carolina, I mean that team 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:17.160 was getting their doors blown off, but still Gerald McCoy 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:19.080 was one of the guys that was still giving it, 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:21.839 giving it to that team, whistle to whistle. And so 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:25.440 for him, I know that, yeah, he's a serviceable guy 0:09:25.480 --> 0:09:27.440 at this point, but he comes in with a chip 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:29.679 on his shoulder and he's gonna have plenty of opportunity 0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:32.320 to show everyone what he has left in the tank 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:34.960 because he's gonna have a one on one matchup and 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:38.800 he's gonna have to beat it. Y'all killed it, man, 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:40.839 I mean, d d Law is gonna do what d 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:42.920 Law does, you know? And now he just has he 0:09:42.960 --> 0:09:45.680 has a partner with him, right. Obviously, we want Crawford 0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:47.320 to come back. We want him to come back healthy 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:49.719 and ready to roll, take care of business as that 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:53.840 vet as that voice on that defensive line. But you 0:09:53.920 --> 0:09:56.840 just got all the Smith back. You just got Smith 0:09:56.840 --> 0:09:59.760 back off his suspension, and this dude paired up with 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:04.200 is going to be a serious problem, you guys. I mean, 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:06.319 I don't know how much people out there, Cowboys Nation, 0:10:06.400 --> 0:10:08.200 y'all need to recognize that this d line is about 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:11.760 to be what I like to call McNasty. Okay, y'all, 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:13.640 y'all need to recognize this is about to be serious, 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:15.640 because I as heck, just a point to just attest 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:18.400 it to. You got two dogs in the middle. You 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:21.520 cannot isole these guys in the middle. You have to 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:24.000 you have one of those guys gonna have one on 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:26.760 one one of them, right, So you pick your poison, 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:29.560 McCoy or Poe. Either way, it's gonna be an ill 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:31.959 all right, And then you got you have opportunity to 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:34.079 put those other dogs to go eat on the outside. 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:36.719 I am really looking forward to seeing these guys get 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:38.560 after the ball and quarterback. I think they're gonna have 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:40.560 a heck, of a time, and I really, honestly, whole 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:43.560 truly believed that they're gonna have a two line rotation 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:48.720 and keep these guys fresh. Well, this is over nasty, nasty. 0:10:49.960 --> 0:10:52.800 I love that I see, but I want to kind 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:57.040 of look from a maybe a skeptical perspective here. I 0:10:57.160 --> 0:10:59.880 want to throw a wrench into things, because on paper 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:02.720 looks great. You've got these these big names. Gerald McCoy, 0:11:02.800 --> 0:11:06.880 like heckmone was saying earlier, Hey, he's a he's a 0:11:07.000 --> 0:11:10.000 name that people recognize. He was a household name early 0:11:10.040 --> 0:11:12.080 in his career. He's still on the backside of his career. 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:14.200 The same thing for Don try Poe. You can maybe 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:16.520 even say the same thing for Tyrone Crawford at the 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:20.080 same point. So all of these names are great, But 0:11:20.400 --> 0:11:25.080 is this defensive line certainly better than it was last year? 0:11:25.160 --> 0:11:28.440 Because I just want to hear what you think, because yes, 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:30.960 you've added those guys, but you also lost Robert Quinn, 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:33.400 who's a double double sack guy or a double digit 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:35.839 sack guy. You have Malee Collins that's now gone and 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:38.960 up to Las Vegas almost said Oakland there, but Las Vegas. 0:11:39.040 --> 0:11:43.240 So why is this defensive so much about it, man, 0:11:43.679 --> 0:11:47.040 stop it. Tell me why, Isaiah, tell me why? On 0:11:47.200 --> 0:11:50.920 a d line, man, we're talking about all pro goons. 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:53.320 When you turn to film on and you got dude 0:11:53.360 --> 0:11:56.000 sitting in the film room, you circle those two dogs 0:11:56.000 --> 0:11:57.960 in the middle, and then you circle them guys on 0:11:57.960 --> 0:11:59.920 the outside of said these guys are going to eat. 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:02.160 Who are you going to stop? If you want to 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:04.320 If you want to try to run the ball, good luck. 0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:06.760 Try to move all that man in the middle right. 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:08.520 If you want to try to pass the ball, them 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:10.600 dudes are gonna put their ears back and they're coming. 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:12.160 And matter of fact, and guess what, even if you 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:13.720 want to try to play it safe, you still got 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:16.959 three dogs sitting right behind those guys and leave vander 0:12:17.000 --> 0:12:20.760 ash and Smith. So listen, this front seven is sick. 0:12:20.880 --> 0:12:23.080 I can't wait you talk. I know you're talking about 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:25.480 the last year's guys. Respect to them. Thank you guys. 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:27.480 We doing what you do. But this we have we 0:12:27.559 --> 0:12:29.840 have Hey just like just like Beyonce said, let me 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:32.240 upgrade you. That's what just happened, and that's what weak 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:36.040 and that's exactly what we got. Isais we got, we 0:12:36.160 --> 0:12:38.079 got upgraded. But Kyle, let me tell you this man 0:12:38.120 --> 0:12:41.240 in twenty twenty. Man, nobody likes the devil's advocate. All Right, 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:45.640 that's okay, somebody's got to play that role. I got 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:48.480 to ask the questions, and that's trying to be wrong. 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:52.120 I love it, uh, you know, and I think that 0:12:52.200 --> 0:12:54.400 you have to look at what we have behind the 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:56.880 Neville Gallimore is going to be a killer. I just 0:12:57.160 --> 0:12:59.199 believe that he is going to be a spark club 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:02.480 for this defensive line. And the fact that coach Thom 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:06.560 Seweler has talked heavily and interviews about having guys in 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:10.920 rotation and so look last year's team, last year's defensive line, 0:13:11.040 --> 0:13:12.839 and we talked about this a little bit last week. 0:13:13.080 --> 0:13:15.480 It's these guys were a lot smaller than the guys 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:18.040 that you had, and so they had their skill set 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:19.920 was one of having to be quick, get out the way, 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:23.440 and get up the field. These guys present a different 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:26.080 challenge because look, man, when you have a guy like 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:29.840 done Terry Pole, that's again getting that double team. It's 0:13:29.880 --> 0:13:34.320 really hard for the guard to release off on those linebackers. 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:37.480 And if you reach, we teach right and so decisively. 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:40.120 That's the thing that I believe that's gonna be That's 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:43.079 the upgrade, right, that's the upgrade and the defense because 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:45.400 you have guys that are gonna be there and they're 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:48.400 gonna be solid in the middle of our defense. And 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:50.679 it just it just the backdoor, which you just said, Hey, 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:53.440 I want everybody out there in Cowboys they to imagine 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:55.120 I don't want you guys to imagine that you guys 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:57.200 are a starting center for whatever team. I don't care. 0:13:57.240 --> 0:13:59.600 Let's call it the Giants. Right, you're a starting center. 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:01.880 You gotta all pro dudes sitting in the a gap 0:14:01.920 --> 0:14:04.120 by the name of McCoy right, sitting right there, even 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:06.079 if he's head up on you on your guard, he's 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:08.079 right there, right next to you. And then you have 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:11.079 this dude named Po who just happens to be maybe 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:14.200 three hundred and forty pounds. Okay, no, he's not only 0:14:14.280 --> 0:14:17.040 is he in the gap, but he has angled his 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:20.280 helmet lined up directly at your shoulder, right, so as 0:14:20.280 --> 0:14:21.960 soon as you snap the ball, as soon as he 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:24.920 sees that ball move, he is putting both hands on 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:28.160 one of your shoulders. That he's going one direction. That 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:31.240 proposes a problem, and that it was you guys. You 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:34.000 can look forward to see him, Isaiah, I do. I'll 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:37.280 put I was going to just go back real quickly 0:14:37.320 --> 0:14:39.520 off of what Isaiah said, But you said all pro, 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:41.840 Gerald McCoy, you think he's going to be an All 0:14:41.880 --> 0:14:44.400 Pro this year? You're saying in twenty thirteen he was 0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:47.040 an All Pro because I mean, I don't know if 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:49.160 he's going to be an All Pro as a Dallas Cowboy, 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:51.080 he's on the back end of his career. I think 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:53.280 he's an upgrade based off of what they've had in 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:55.800 the past, just based off of the size, the speedy 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:58.120 of the athleticism, which is still better than I think 0:14:58.280 --> 0:15:01.000 maybe an Anton Woods or Amothly Collins. I think he's 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:03.880 an upgrade. I think he is. I just don't think 0:15:03.880 --> 0:15:05.480 he's gonna be an All Pro. I don't know if 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:07.960 we can tap him as a twenty twenty All Pro. 0:15:08.120 --> 0:15:11.000 Twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen, he was a household name. I 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:13.520 just don't have sense the case. So in so in 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:14.800 the locker room, let me go ahead and give you 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:17.200 guys a little a look behind the veil. Okay, in 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:19.840 the locker room, what's your All Pro? You're All Pro? 0:15:20.040 --> 0:15:22.560 That's your naw, yeah, you're you're you're title you got. 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:25.680 It's all your resume, and there is no question about it. 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:27.480 I don't care if you're All Pro your first year 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:29.760 and you're in year twenty, you still all Pro. All right. 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:32.080 So to answer your question in terms of him being 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:35.080 able to make it this year, I honestly see this 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:39.240 Cowboys defense having five to six All Pro players on 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:45.160 his defense this year. Yeah. Wow, ye what I said. 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:50.120 That's right. I'm gonna write that down really quickly. Tell 0:15:50.160 --> 0:15:51.960 you put it on there, Put it on there. I 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:54.760 think we have a real opportunity with this group that 0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:57.760 they put together, with this defensive coordinator that they have, 0:15:57.880 --> 0:16:00.200 these guys are gonna be in position to make a 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:02.520 lot of plays that they wouldn't have been in before. 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:06.080 That's that's the key right there that I think you 0:16:06.200 --> 0:16:10.160 just nailed. Because the scheme has to ye set the 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:12.600 players up, and that's why they made a change because 0:16:12.640 --> 0:16:16.240 I think I think with the last regime a lot 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:20.160 of it was this is what we do, and we're 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:22.240 not gonna do a lot of pre snap disguising and 0:16:22.240 --> 0:16:23.880 we're just gonna try to beat you at the snap 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:26.600 after snap, and I think, yeah, I think they're gonna 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:29.320 try to scheme things up a little bit more. But Kyle, 0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:31.280 I'll play Devil's advocate with you a little bit. I know, 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:36.560 I like this, Heck, I like it. First of all. 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:39.680 I'll say they are I think they are upgraded in 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:42.160 the middle of the defensive line. I do think if 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:44.120 you don't, but I did. I did get curious and 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:45.680 I went back and I was trying to figure out 0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:49.960 why Carolina with Don, Terry Coo and Gerald McCoy were 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:53.040 twenty ninth against the run last year. I mean that that. 0:16:53.360 --> 0:16:55.320 You know, you just look at the stats and you're like, Wow, 0:16:55.400 --> 0:16:58.080 what what happened there? Happen? And I'll tell you what, man, 0:16:58.120 --> 0:17:00.320 it was. It was a lot like it's like, it 0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:02.320 was a lot like what happened with the Cowboys last year. 0:17:02.360 --> 0:17:06.400 You had guys kind of playing out of position at times, 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:10.320 not technical sound, trying to make tackles, and there they 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:12.840 were a gap control defense that didn't always fill the 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:14.439 gaps properly. I don't know if you can put that 0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:17.800 all on Don, Terry Poe and Gerald McCoy, but they 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:20.120 were part of a defense that didn't have success last year. 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:22.880 And I think, you know, they lost some guys. They 0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:26.600 shifted some guys around Kuan Short wasn't there, so I 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:29.480 know that's a double's advocate type of thinking. Is well, 0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:31.919 what happened to that group last year? I don't think 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:34.320 you could put it all on them, but man, they 0:17:34.359 --> 0:17:37.280 do need those two guys to be rock solid against 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:39.000 the run, because I said it last week. When this 0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:42.040 defense does not stop the run, they have problems. They 0:17:42.040 --> 0:17:44.040 have big problems that kind of leaks out to the 0:17:44.040 --> 0:17:47.280 rest of the group. And I'm glad that earlier in 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:49.879 this segment, Heckma brought up the Bill Gallimore because I 0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:53.800 think on the back end of Gerald McCoy and Dontari Poe, 0:17:53.880 --> 0:17:56.400 you've got a young gun that could end up being 0:17:56.400 --> 0:17:58.840 an All pro as Dallas cowboy, because he is going 0:17:58.880 --> 0:18:01.399 to be may be a surprise. He was a value 0:18:01.440 --> 0:18:04.119 pick in the third round. Whenever he fell to you 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:05.960 at eighty two, that was when you were high fiving 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:08.080 those around you because you knew he was going to 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:09.680 have a star on the side of his helmet and 0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:12.640 hackmaner you brought him up. But what kind of role 0:18:12.720 --> 0:18:15.160 does he have to play? And while we're talking about 0:18:15.200 --> 0:18:17.679 rookies on the defensive line, you've got a couple at 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:19.720 the end spots too, Bradley and I who was a 0:18:19.800 --> 0:18:23.439 draft pick, and also he got Ladarius Hamilton and the 0:18:23.760 --> 0:18:28.080 James Madison Rondelle Carter who also was an undrafted free agent. 0:18:28.080 --> 0:18:32.040 You've got a heavy room of rookies on that defensive line. Absolutely, 0:18:32.359 --> 0:18:35.760 I believe that. The first question about Naval Gallimore, I 0:18:35.760 --> 0:18:37.960 think this kid can come in and play freely because 0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:44.480 he has so much of a presence in the league, 0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:47.200 and so I think that it's important for him to 0:18:47.240 --> 0:18:49.240 get into that rotation. But there's a name that we 0:18:49.320 --> 0:18:52.119 keep forgetting to mention, and that's Tristan Hill. It's a 0:18:52.240 --> 0:18:56.160 guy in this second year that also will benefit by 0:18:56.240 --> 0:18:58.879 having these guys in front of him and teaching him 0:18:58.960 --> 0:19:01.399 the ropes, and not that they didn't last year. I 0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:03.000 just feel as though it's gonna be he's gonna have 0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:07.280 a better room. But also, again the right end, we 0:19:07.600 --> 0:19:10.119 put a lot of that concentration on what are we 0:19:10.160 --> 0:19:12.440 gonna do? What are we gonna do? Guys, guy, the 0:19:12.760 --> 0:19:14.760 guy that may start at your right end position may 0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:17.840 not even be on your roster right now, so that 0:19:17.840 --> 0:19:20.480 that that may be another thing for you to have to, 0:19:20.680 --> 0:19:23.360 you know, putting your pipe and smoke and understand that. Look, 0:19:23.400 --> 0:19:25.760 there are a lot of changes yet to still be made, 0:19:25.960 --> 0:19:30.760 but I believe Nevill Gallimore Hill and also Antoine Hoods 0:19:31.080 --> 0:19:35.400 will may play a large role in your defensive line rotation. 0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:38.360 But also a name that we have to remember as 0:19:38.359 --> 0:19:41.520 far as the right edge, and that's a no. The 0:19:41.680 --> 0:19:44.520