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Speaker 1: know why he couldn't. Now we'll see how this plays out.

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Speaker 1: I think they play the Giants this week, but you

426
00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,720
Speaker 1: gotta give them a lot of credit. Things change, right,

427
00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,040
Speaker 1: I mean three or four years ago, Uber was a

428
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Speaker 1: dog shit company. They were losing money. They were you know,

429
00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,720
Speaker 1: Martin's scandal. It was a disaster. Now as we sit

430
00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,680
Speaker 1: here in twenty twenty three because of the lockdowns, Uber

431
00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:53,760
Speaker 1: Eat started thriving. Now their driver business makes money. Companies

432
00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:57,560
Speaker 1: crushing things change. Sometimes they take a while to change,

433
00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,880
Speaker 1: sometimes they take a month to change. And my job

434
00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,399
Speaker 1: is just evaluated and talk about it as it changes.

435
00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,399
Speaker 1: I'm never stuck on an opinion. I thought Jordan love stunk.

436
00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,800
Speaker 1: Now that he's pretty good, will evaluate him game by

437
00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:11,240
Speaker 1: game because that's all we got to go off of.

438
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:15,240
Speaker 1: That's what Brian Goodikins is doing, That's what Matt Lafleur

439
00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,440
Speaker 1: is doing, That's what Packer fans are doing. It's exciting, right,

440
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,480
Speaker 1: I Mean the reason forty nine Er fans are so

441
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,639
Speaker 1: quick to defend their guy is because they're watching them

442
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,200
Speaker 1: to go. This guy's pretty good. What are we talking about.

443
00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,480
Speaker 1: He's making eight hundred thousand dollars. Hell, if he was

444
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,960
Speaker 1: playing like this making thirty five, we'd feel thirty five million,

445
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:33,600
Speaker 1: would feel good about it. But he's making eight hundred

446
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,640
Speaker 1: thousand dollars. He's on pace to throw thirty touchdowns and

447
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,560
Speaker 1: be the starting quarterback on a team that wins thirteen

448
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,359
Speaker 1: or fourteen games. And everyone's taking a shit on him

449
00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,359
Speaker 1: because you thought he sucked two years ago. That seems

450
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 1: like a U problem. So yeah, this quarterback stuff, man,

451
00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,960
Speaker 1: it's just it gets everyone into tizzy because everyone is

452
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:55,119
Speaker 1: just so It's just they struggle so much to just

453
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Speaker 1: change their opinion. I never understand that. I just I

454
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,719
Speaker 1: have nothing in common with that. I'll change my opinion

455
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 1: tomorrow yesterday. We're talking football players. They're constantly changing. Some

456
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 1: are getting bore, some are getting better, some are going

457
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,439
Speaker 1: through struggles. You just evaluate what you see. When I

458
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,719
Speaker 1: worked as a scout, what do we do? We just

459
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:18,080
Speaker 1: evaluated the games? No broadcaster all twenty two. You put

460
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 1: in some EarPods, listen to music, listen to the radio,

461
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 1: and you just fucking evaluated players. It was very emotionless.

462
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,240
Speaker 1: It's like good or bad? Is it getting worser or

463
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,200
Speaker 1: getting better? Give the guy a great that's the business,

464
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,680
Speaker 1: and it's pretty easy to see when a guy's playing well,

465
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Speaker 1: our guy's playing not. It's like the Jets. I've been

466
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,119
Speaker 1: saying this over and over everyone. When the story broke

467
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 1: about Diana Raussini said that Zach Wilson didn't want to

468
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Speaker 1: come back. It was so easy to go after Zach Wilson,

469
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Speaker 1: and like, I'm done having opinions on Zach Wilson, the

470
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:53,159
Speaker 1: person the player. To me, this whole thing revolves around

471
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,120
Speaker 1: the Jets. It's easy to be like, oh, this guy

472
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 1: has to play. It's his job and listen. Of course,

473
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,359
Speaker 1: if they want you to be the starter, you gotta

474
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Speaker 1: be the start of They're paying nine million dollars to me,

475
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 1: this is more about the musical chairs now for two

476
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,119
Speaker 1: straight years of getting in this situation. This is a

477
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Speaker 1: reflection of the general manager. This is a reflection of

478
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Speaker 1: the coach. And one thing I've heard over and over

479
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 1: from people in the loop is it's not easy to

480
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,880
Speaker 1: work for Woody Johnson. He's got have a lot of opinions.

481
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 1: He always wants to talk to the GM. He gives

482
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,959
Speaker 1: ideas David Tepper is doing something similar right now. So

483
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 1: when I see Zach Wilson playing, I go I bet

484
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 1: the owner wanted to see him, And honestly, if the

485
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 1: owner did, I'd probably side with him. Like we're just

486
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 1: gonna suck with Tim Boyle. What's the point of that.

487
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,679
Speaker 1: We're paying this guy nine million dollars even if he

488
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,920
Speaker 1: does suck, Let's just put him on the field. We're

489
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,119
Speaker 1: not winning games as it is. It's not like the

490
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,360
Speaker 1: guy you're bringing up off the scrap heap looks any good.

491
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Speaker 1: What's the fucking point of playing them? Maybe we catch

492
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:47,399
Speaker 1: lighting in a bottle. He looks kind of good, and

493
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 1: maybe we can offload him this offseason. I don't know,

494
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 1: but there's no point from a value standpoint to play

495
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Speaker 1: anybody but Zach Wilson zero. Just like the New York

496
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 1: Giants sticking with Tommy DeVito. In what world? You're so

497
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 1: out of it? You're not sniffing the playoffs? Your team stinks?

498
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 1: Would you go back to Tyrod Taylor? Tyrod Taylor is

499
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 1: someone you play when you are trying to win a

500
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 1: game because your darting quarterback is injured and you're trying

501
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 1: to keep your season alive. Your season's over, it's dead.

502
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 1: So if you told me that, John Mara looked at

503
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 1: Brian Dable on the coaching staff and said, listen, even

504
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 1: when Tyrod's better, played to Vito the rest of the season,

505
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 1: let's see what we got. Why wouldn't you. I talked

506
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Speaker 1: to a scout that went through Illinois. You know what

507
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Speaker 1: he told me. He's like Tommy Devige is not bad

508
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 1: because one thing we've seen with Illinois is not much

509
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 1: change on their offense beside him, and they are dramatically

510
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 1: shittier on offense. No one's acting liked. Vido is the

511
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 1: next brock Party. But maybe he's not terrible, and maybe

512
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Speaker 1: he could be your backup the next couple of years,

513
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Speaker 1: So why would you not play him? Coaches are always

514
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,159
Speaker 1: and this is a great part about the NFL is

515
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 1: the tanking. Everyone's always trying to win, no matter what.

516
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 1: No one's ever trying to throw a game, maybe the

517
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 1: last game of the season. Hell, the Miami Dolphins owner

518
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 1: offered Brian Floores all that cash every game to lose refused.

519
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 1: So coaches are very prideful. Rightfully, so players definitely are.

520
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 1: But that's the right move. Play Tommy to bed. Play

521
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson, how's this even a you know, even a

522
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: question mark? Now, Zach Wilson, I guess one thing, I

523
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 1: would defend him, like you're just fucking with me NonStop,

524
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 1: Like you benched me, you bring me back. You did

525
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 1: it last year, which some a lot of that was

526
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 1: self inflicted. I acted like an idiot. But this year,

527
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,199
Speaker 1: from all reports is like he's been much more mature.

528
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 1: It's one thing to go last year to Mike White.

529
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 1: Mike White's a real backup. It's another thing to bring

530
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Speaker 1: Tim fucking Boyle. I mean, is Tim Boyle starting in

531
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Speaker 1: the XFL or the UFL, or the European League or

532
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: whoever the hell's some seven on seven league? No, So

533
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Speaker 1: to do that, I understand, Zach Wilson, Like, you guys

534
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,439
Speaker 1: can't stand me anymore, so now you're gonna throw me

535
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Speaker 1: back in there. Now. Part of it, it's easy to say,

536
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 1: be a professional. We hear that all the time with

537
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 1: pro athletes. Think about your own job, right. We obviously

538
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,919
Speaker 1: most of us don't make, you know, nine million dollars

539
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: a year, so something that comes with the money is

540
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: like you got to take the shit. But it's how

541
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 1: often do you get angry at a boss, at a coworker,

542
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 1: at an employee, And it's like, God, I just gotta,

543
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 1: I gotta, I gotta act like a pro here, But

544
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 1: you don't want it. For whatever reason, someone pisses you off,

545
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: someone screws you. In business, you know, an employee just

546
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 1: won't listen to you, a partner is being shitty, and

547
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,400
Speaker 1: you're like, it's so easy to be like, be professional,

548
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 1: be professional. Like we're all human beings. We all get

549
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,400
Speaker 1: to a breaking point. We all, you know, are biased

550
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: in our own world and think we're getting screwed. So

551
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 1: I understand if if it is true that he was

552
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 1: hesitant to go, now he's ultimately starting. Maybe they talked

553
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,160
Speaker 1: him into it. I know Aaron Rodgers shit on the report,

554
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: but regardless, like it's much more of a reflection of

555
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 1: this Jets turmoil to me than it is Zach Wilson.

556
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 1: We learned who Zach Wilson was last year, not very good,

557
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,640
Speaker 1: but we knew that the Jets were completely over Zach Wilson.

558
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,880
Speaker 1: But because Aaron Rodgers in the Packers situation, fell into

559
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: his lap, they're like Oh, let's just keep him cause

560
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: they're kind of buddies. And we've seen this year, what

561
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: we saw last year. If you play him, you'll lose games.

562
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 1: Like that's a fact, Jack. So once you start going

563
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 1: back and forth with all these no name quarterbacks, just

564
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,679
Speaker 1: put yourself in his situation. Maybe're like, God, this this sucks. Now.

565
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: Ultimately he did the right thing. That's all that matters.

566
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: But I could understand him on Monday, like we're really

567
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: doing this again, we're playing this musical chairs, it would suck.

568
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a human being. One story I saw

569
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: today The Athletic wrote this piece on the Carolina Panthers

570
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: and one thing in the NFL in general, when things

571
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: get really really ugly because there's so much money in

572
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 1: the line, right, I mean you're talking position coaches are

573
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 1: making five to eight hundred thousand dollars, coordinators making one

574
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: to three. Obviously, head coaches making a ton gms that

575
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: it's hard to get a GM job. Everyone starts pointing fingers,

576
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 1: everyone starts blaming people, and everyone tries to curry favor

577
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: with the owner because ultimately they're in charge of hiring

578
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 1: and firing everybody. And the story basically the headline was

579
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers is essentially the Hunger Games of the NFL,

580
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,679
Speaker 1: which even if you didn't watch The Hunger Games in

581
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: the movie theater, you would have seen it on television

582
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: over the years because I swore to got TNT played

583
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 1: it like every other day, even though I was thinking

584
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: about this on YouTube TV, like when I had Comcast

585
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: or whatever. You're listening to this. If you just have

586
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 1: you know, the cable, and you haven't cut the cords yet,

587
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 1: you would just stumble onto a lot of movies, you like, Oh,

588
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: con Era, Ah, The Rock, Hunger Games, you know, Shashang.

589
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: With YouTube TV, you don't really stumble upon anything like

590
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: it basically just feeds me through the algorithm. It knows

591
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: I watch games, it knows I watch the Golf channel,

592
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: and it knows I watched CNBC. Like I don't watch

593
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: random channels anymore, where I used to stumble on a

594
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: lot of those with cable television. So I do wonder

595
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: if the movie scene and maybe that'll change with like

596
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 1: Netflix and stuff. But even you don't go to Netflix

597
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: often or Amazon Prime or Apple Plus or HBO Max

598
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: and just watch a random movie from like your childhood,

599
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 1: right where you would on cable. That just it's always

600
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: struck me like that's something that's gonna die over time.

601
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 1: The you know, the just I've watched shash Shank parts

602
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: of it seven hundred times. I've watched Goodfellas or Casino

603
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: or The Godfather, just bits and pieces of it over

604
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 1: the years, you know, seventy five times. I just don't

605
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: know if that's gonna happen anymore. But back to David

606
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: Tepper in the Hunger Games, that temper part of this

607
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: article is that he would give ideas, you know, he'd

608
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: have coordinate people on the staff. One thing, because like

609
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: he's taking this business mindset right of all these different strategies.

610
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: Bring people into your building with different ideas, have a

611
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: specific onboarding practice, try to hire people that think differently

612
00:29:55,880 --> 00:30:00,080
Speaker 1: than you. It's very techy, it's very financy. It's very

613
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: just the private sector. Yet in football, if you look

614
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: at like Andy Reid Staff, who's just rattling off Super Bowls,

615
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 1: look at some of his key guys. Matt Maggie known

616
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: him for fifteen years, Brett Veach known him for twenty.

617
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: Spagnola coach for him twenty years ago. Right, I mean

618
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 1: Tom Melvin been on the staff forever, his offensive line coach,

619
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: been there the whole time. Dave Tobe the special teams

620
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: coach entire time. So Dave Temper wanted Frank to hire

621
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: all these coaches he didn't know instead of just letting him,

622
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, hire a staff. And there's a difference

623
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 1: of just hiring people you know and just hiring good

624
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: people like obviously the Andy's the hardballs, like they know

625
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 1: a lot of people, but they're good. And clearly Frank

626
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: was forced because the only way he was getting a

627
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: job is to listen to everything David Temper was telling

628
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Speaker 1: him to do. Hire a bunch of guys he didn't know,

629
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Speaker 1: and all these guys have no loyalty to him, and

630
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,239
Speaker 1: they have completely stabbed him in the back, even if

631
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: Frank sucks. But part of this story is they're constantly

632
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 1: texting the owner like his footwork's falling apart, and the

633
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: GM do this too. The GM constantly doing this to Temper,

634
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: and then Temper would tell Frank that he needs to

635
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Speaker 1: work on Bryce Young's footwork. And I'm all, I completely

636
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: understand big picture stuff, like I said with the Jets,

637
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: if I was Woody Johnson. Put Zach Wilson back in

638
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: the fucking game, Robert, He's starting this week. If I'm

639
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: John Morrow, I don't want to see Tyrod Taylor. Just

640
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: play Tommy DeVito. People around Jersey, people around the Medlands

641
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: enjoy it. It's the only positive thing we have going

642
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: for us. Tommy DeVito, Tommy Cutletz starts completely understand that

643
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: level of medaling when my team stinks. I don't understand

644
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 1: talking about specifically, like, hey, work on his arm mechanics,

645
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: work on his footwork in the pocket. Dave Tepper knows

646
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: nothing about footwork in the pocket. Hell, most scouts and

647
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: coaches don't know it that well. The hardest thing to

648
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Speaker 1: coach in America is the quarterback, right, So once he's

649
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Speaker 1: getting involved like that, they're destined to be screwed. And

650
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: I do wonder, how are they going to get a

651
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: coach to come into this organization? How are they gonna

652
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,959
Speaker 1: get someone to come into a place where clearly the

653
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: owner is kind of has some Dance Snyder qualities, It

654
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: has unlimited money. So yeah, I mean, ultimately it's the NFL.

655
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: There are only so many jobs, and if he pays,

656
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: you have thirty forty million dollars and you're making a

657
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: million dollars as a coordinator. Who's turning that down? But

658
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: you know, you're kind of selling your soul, like you

659
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: you know, within two years you could be, you know,

660
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: shit out of luck. It could be over. And I

661
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: just wonder, like these stories. I was talking to Buddy today, like,

662
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: how many stories? Because I've taken a lot of people

663
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: in like Giants, Twitter or like, you don't know what

664
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: you're talking about. You've never been to a training camp journalism.

665
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: Put your like, I'm not a journalist, I'm not a

666
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: fucking media member. I'm just telling you what I know,

667
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: and I know it to be fact. The Giants have issues. Yeah,

668
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Speaker 1: I'm not a training camp. It's fucking twenty twenty three.

669
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: It's called text messages, phone calls, DMS, and knowing a

670
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: lot of people in the National Football League, I'm not

671
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: just saying it to say it. I don't even care.

672
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: That doesn't matter to me. I can give two shits

673
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,719
Speaker 1: about the Giants. I'm just telling you they got issues,

674
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: they got problems. I'm not just making that out of

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Speaker 1: thin air. But how often you hear these stories of

676
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: like a lot of issues up there a lot of

677
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: issues internally, and then it turns out it was all false.

678
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: In my time around the NFL. Now I got it

679
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: hired in twenty ten, and it's thirteen years later. I'm

680
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: still around it talking about it. Do this for a living.

681
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: I don't remember one story that broke from a glazer

682
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: from a shefter, just I mean from people that know

683
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: people in the NFL about animosity, about weird shit going on,

684
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 1: like Dave Tepper. I saw it with Harball. I've seen

685
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: it with the Raiders, like some of the red Flag

686
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: internally and it not turned out to be true. I'm

687
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Speaker 1: not saying word for word every specific thing being reported

688
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: is true, but usually where there's smoke, there's fire in

689
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: the NFL, and one thing that has always covered up

690
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: is winning. So when you win, it doesn't mean you

691
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: don't have internal problems. I saw it when I first

692
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Speaker 1: got out of the NFL and started working in radio

693
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,280
Speaker 1: with the Harbaugh forty nine ers. They were having success

694
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: and they were a disaster internally. You're going to the

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Speaker 1: NFC Championship, you're winning twelve games, You're sending half your

696
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: roster to the Pro Bowl. No one you just everyone

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Speaker 1: keeps their mouth shut the moment you start losing a

698
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: couple of games, the moment you're not playing in January,

699
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: shit hits the fan, and the moment you win one game,

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Speaker 1: three games, four games, that's a long season for a

701
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: lot of angry people. People start talking, people start singing,

702
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: you know, quick, people in the NFL like to talk. Man.

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00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: A lot of times, when you work that much, you're

704
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,320
Speaker 1: stuck in this office and things are going really poorly,

705
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 1: you feel like you can't tell anybody. You feel like

706
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,959
Speaker 1: no one knows what's actually going on. And I would

707
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 1: imagine temper is like furious all this stuff's leaking out.

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Speaker 1: But I would say ninety percent plus of everything you

709
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Speaker 1: read about the situation is true. Why people want it out.

710
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 1: People want you to know what a disaster situation is

711
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Speaker 1: going on there. And when you get this new owner,

712
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: when you get a guy with all this money, when

713
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: you get a guy with all this ego, And rightfully, so,

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Speaker 1: if you told me, you know in ten years, you're

715
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: you know, say we're eleven years. When I'm fifty years old,

716
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: you're like, John, you fucking made one hundred million dollars

717
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 1: in this podcast thing and this internet thing, making some

718
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Speaker 1: investments you've done really well. Do you think my ego

719
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 1: is gonna be smaller or bigger. Doesn't mean I'm not

720
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Speaker 1: gonna treat people well or you know whatever, But do

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Speaker 1: you think I'm gonna have more belief in myself to

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Speaker 1: be successful or less? Right? So, if you're a David

723
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: Tepper and you go, this guy's made billions of dollars.

724
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Speaker 1: When you talk about like the greatest people on Wall

725
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: Street of all time, it's like a short list, his

726
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: name comes up. You're talking like the buffets, Charlie Munger's rip.

727
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: It's pretty quick for David Tepper to beat Steve Cohen

728
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,919
Speaker 1: to be discussed. So you don't think this guy, even

729
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 1: though he doesn't know anything about play's footwork aition, doesn't

730
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Speaker 1: believe he knows how to make it successful. Even if

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Speaker 1: he's wrong, You're crazy. That's not how these guys think.

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Speaker 1: So I've said forever about Belichick. If you think Belichick

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Speaker 1: at seventy one years old, is gonna go quietly when

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Speaker 1: he's been making twenty million dollars for a decade, when

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Speaker 1: he's fucking rattled off six super Bowls, When even if

736
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 1: Brady was a bigger reason than him, he's the reason

737
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 1: Brady was there. He's the guy that made Brady the starter.

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Speaker 1: He's the guy that built great defenses around Brady. He's

739
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: the guy that hired all these coaches. You're fucking on

740
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: drugs like his ego right now, even in even in

741
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,959
Speaker 1: a rough time and right now, it's never been ugly.

742
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 1: Or if you don't think Belichick deep down believes he

743
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: knows what he's doing, you're out of your mind. It's

744
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: just And if you don't think Dave Tepper believes he

745
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: has good ideas how to make this work, you're crazy. Now.

746
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean it's going to and it's clearly not.

747
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 1: Same thing with Dan Snyder. Dan Snyder got that team early.

748
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: He made a bunch of money. Dude had a private

749
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: jet by the time he was like thirty years old.

750
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 1: So sometimes when you get the money, really con you

751
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,760
Speaker 1: just get this inflated sense of like I know everything

752
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: even if you don't. And that's the hardest thing. Like

753
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: the finance world, the marketing world, the internet world has

754
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: nothing to do with a football team. Nothing. It's why

755
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: so often, like there was a story about Kevin Warren,

756
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,760
Speaker 1: the former Big Ten commissioner who's now the Bear's president,

757
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: like he's trying to like stronghold his way into power

758
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,399
Speaker 1: or he gets to run that organization. You know why

759
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: he's doing that, because even if he was the president

760
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: and he dealt with sweet sales, he built the Bears

761
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,720
Speaker 1: a new stadium, he helped make the owners an extra

762
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 1: billion dollars, He became one of the great NFL businessman

763
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: cash cows in league history. Let's just use that hypothetical.

764
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 1: He wouldn't get a hundredth of the credit if he

765
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: was the lead guy to hiring a coach that won

766
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,720
Speaker 1: them Super Bowl. In football, you get all the credit

767
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 1: for the football team. It doesn't, how matter how much

768
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: your team's making, it doesn't matter how sweet your stadium is.

769
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: None of that shit matters. It's why so many business

770
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: people want to be in charge and run the football operation.

771
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 1: It's why so many owners want to get the credit

772
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: when the team starts winning, and it's difficult, and it's

773
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: why most teams don't win. And David Tepper to me,

774
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: feels farther away when you read these stories because again,

775
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: like I said, when this stuff comes out, it comes

776
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 1: out for a reason. I fucking always believe it's true.

777
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,240
Speaker 1: Because you know why, I would say ninety five percent.

778
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 1: It always has a ton of validity. It feels like

779
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,399
Speaker 1: they're farther away now, however, many years after he bought

780
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 1: the team than he was when he first purchased the

781
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: team for two point four billion or whatever he paid.

782
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 1: And that sucks if you're a panther span that sucks

783
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 1: if you're like, god, what are we doing here? Like

784
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: how is this gonna get any better? And the news

785
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: the reality is this is not not until he realizes,

786
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: just cut the checks, take a step back, enjoy your

787
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: fucking life, and let your GM and let your coach cook.

788
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: You gotta be willing to go through some hard times

789
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: because if you're not, it's gonna suck and you're gonna

790
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: consistently lose. You're just gonna be a miserable rich guy.

791
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: And that's what Dan Snyder was forever. That's what David

792
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: Tepper is shaping up to be, because this is not

793
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: like some retirement gig where you just like pay for

794
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: the team and then just chill if you want to

795
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: be involved, because if you're gonna be involved, then it's

796
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: not gonna go well. It's a miserable business to be in.

797
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: Losing in football sucks and there's not much you can

798
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 1: do about it, and their team lacks talent. If the

799
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 1: quarterback's wrong, the other thing you're gonna have to do.

800
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: He's like adamant, like this quarterback, this quarterbacks. What if

801
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: the quarterback's not the guy in a couple years, are

802
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 1: gonna have to pivot, And you're gonna have to be

803
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 1: willing to pivot because it's pretty clear, like the one

804
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: game they started Andy Dalton this year, they were much

805
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: better on offense. Like Andy Dalton right now is a

806
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:39,280
Speaker 1: better player than Bright show now, I also understand playing

807
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,879
Speaker 1: Bright Andy Dalton Andy snaps is a waste of time.

808
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 1: You gotta play the kid. But it clearly this guy

809
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,879
Speaker 1: is completely overwhelmed. He's getting worse. So you could argue,

810
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: maybe it's not crazy, just like take a deep breath,

811
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:51,919
Speaker 1: and maybe they should have sat him for a couple

812
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: more games are in the seat, but they didn't because

813
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 1: the owner never would let him. He's too involved, Like

814
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,760
Speaker 1: what's the point in paying your coach to make those decisions?

815
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: Because the rumors were that they want to sit them

816
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: down and the owner just doesn't want to listen. So

817
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 1: I don't know man, I feel bad for you Panther fans. Okay,

818
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: let's dive into a little thing called the Middlecoff mailback.

819
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Speaker 1: If you're watching this on YouTube, subscribe to the page.

820
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Speaker 1: The way you get in the mailbag easy slide in

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Speaker 1: to my DMS at John Middlecoff DMS wide open, get

822
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: your question answered here. On the show, we will start

823
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:34,720
Speaker 1: with Andrew John. Will you and Colin please break down

824
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: the elite podium quarterbacks. This is in regards. This guy

825
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: sent me a clip of Pardy with his hat backwards. Obviously,

826
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: I was making fun of Colin on Sunday night after

827
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 1: Purty shredded the Eagles hat backwards. Listen, you know I'm bald.

828
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 1: I don't follow the hair rules. I can wear a

829
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 1: hat anyway I want. Now, I did grow up in

830
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 1: a home where I would say the hat backwards, Like,

831
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 1: I couldn't just rock a backwards hat to school, right.

832
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: I didn't want to say. I grew up in the military,

833
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 1: but we had some pretty you know, some rules that

834
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 1: had to be followed, and that was one, definitely. Now,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that once I got to school, I

836
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,439
Speaker 1: didn't throw that bad boy on backwards. But I didn't

837
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 1: grow up in a house where you could just wear whatever.

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00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: I don't think he's crazy for the big picture, Like

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00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: if you're going to a job interview, would you wear

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00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: a backwards hat. I also think going to these podiums.

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Speaker 1: I've been do enough of these press conferences. I think

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00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: they're kind of dumb, right, I mean during the week,

843
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: I mean, most of these guys weren't sweats, like legitimately

844
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Speaker 1: come in sweat socks and sandals. I don't put that

845
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: much value into it. In twenty twenty three, maybe it

846
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: used to meant more, but to me it's more. I

847
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,879
Speaker 1: always judge more on like what what do you actually do?

848
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: More than what you say. I personally have always hated optics.

849
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: I think it's like so overrated. I think it's very

850
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 1: It's why maybe I don't play the political game well enough.

851
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: Just in business, I could better at that. I'm just

852
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 1: a big actions guy, Like do you produce? Do you

853
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 1: get the job done? If you're in the you know,

854
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 1: in business, do you make money? I grew up in

855
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: an area where, you know, some of the richest guys

856
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: I knew were farmers. They wore boots and jeans every

857
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: day to work, and then when I lived in the

858
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 1: Bay Area, Like the billionaires were sweatshirts so like the

859
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: day and age were in a suit every day. I

860
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 1: don't give a shit. That's just maybe it's where I

861
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 1: grew up. Not as important. I'm more a bottom line

862
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: guy now in terms of best press conferences, you know,

863
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 1: I always thought Brady was kind of boring, you know,

864
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: he was part of it was Belichick, the cliches. He

865
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: just didn't give much. I've been to a couple of

866
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: Peyton mannings. He was pretty good. Philip Rivers was a beauty.

867
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: I think I said it forever. I think Philip Rivers

868
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: would be a star on television. I really do, like

869
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,760
Speaker 1: I think he'd have a chance to be like John Madden.

870
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: Now he's got seventy five kids, he's coaching high school football.

871
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 1: Maybe he's got a different calling. You know, he's not.

872
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: He doesn't need the money, his ego doesn't need the spotlight.

873
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: I just truly believe it's a talent. And I think

874
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: so many people that are just so ego driven, like

875
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett clearly to me as an egomania, like why

876
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 1: the fuck you on TV? Now? Part of it is

877
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 1: they're giving him sweet gigs, so why wouldn't he be?

878
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 1: But he's terrible, right at least Tony Romo, I think

879
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,320
Speaker 1: he's a little overrated. Just in terms of a broadcaster.

880
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: I've always kind of liked the guy. Just could be

881
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: a little annoying, but at least he's got a lot

882
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 1: of energy. You know, Maddens, the Grudens, some of them

883
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: are even Aikman, They're just kind of nat Chris Collinsworth,

884
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: there's an energy. I think Philip Rivers honestly would be

885
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: a star. I really I could see Drew Brees failing

886
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: from a million miles away and guess what happened? He

887
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: didn't last. Here's a question for the mailbag. Would you

888
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: rather have a successful career as a NASCAR driver or

889
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 1: a WWE wrestler? Well, I would say both are pretty dangerous, right.

890
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 1: We've obviously seen NASCAR drivers die, and we have seen

891
00:43:56,280 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 1: wrestlers die early deaths and struggle in their later years.

892
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 1: That's a hell of a question. I would imagine if

893
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: you're a really good NASCAR driver, you know, Jeff Gordon,

894
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: Denny Hamlin. I'm not a huge NASCAR guy. Obviously, Earnhardts,

895
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: you make a lot of money just like, if you

896
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: become a WWE wrestler, I would probably choose WWU wrestler.

897
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 1: I'm not a big race guy, like I mean, I fall.

898
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: I don't follow NASCAR, and I definitely don't follow f one.

899
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 1: Have a lot of respect for the adrenaline junkie nature

900
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: of being in a car going that fast. I did

901
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 1: like wrestling a lot as a kid. I mean, grew

902
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 1: up on Hulk Hogan, Stone, Cold, Steve Boston obviously the Rock.

903
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 1: Those guys were really Goldberg when I was in like,

904
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 1: you know, junior high and high school. They were a

905
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: really big deal. Hulk was a superstar, tropic thunder. I

906
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: think I'd go WWE just I do think it opens

907
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,720
Speaker 1: more doors to become just a star. I mean, you've

908
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 1: seen it forever and there's something special about you know,

909
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,760
Speaker 1: it's kind of the best of both worlds, right, big athlete,

910
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 1: working out, you know, performer, almost like an actor. So

911
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: I think I would go. I would go WWE wrestler

912
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 1: I was. I mean, look at Hulk. I mean, I

913
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: would say, Hulk Hogan one of the most famous individuals

914
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: in the sporting world of my life. Like, I mean,

915
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: he's pretty big. If you just say Hulk Hogan. People

916
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 1: know who he is, and he was famous well before

917
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 1: the Internet. Right look at the Rock. I mean, the

918
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 1: Rock became easily one of the most famous people in

919
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: the world and he was just His career started as

920
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: a wrestler. His career technically started as a football player,

921
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: but I would go WWE wrestler for sure. What would

922
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 1: you say is the best plan for the Bengals going forward?

923
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: I personally believe Joe and Jamar are enough offensive superstars

924
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 1: for you to win. For that reason, I want to

925
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: see the Bengals absolutely prioritize getting a top five oer

926
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 1: line and top ten defense. I think you know, I

927
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: would imagine that's a priority for most teams, while keeping

928
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 1: our current defensive coordinator. Hell, make him the head coach

929
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: if you have to. The other big thing is, even

930
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,280
Speaker 1: though he's a great culture guy and has drafted very well,

931
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 1: I do not think Zach Taylor is it for the Bengals.

932
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: Could you ever see them going for a more established

933
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 1: offensive mine like McVeigh or Lafleur. Well, let's take it

934
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 1: a step back. I just saw Jake Browning was named

935
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 1: the Offensive Player of the Week for the AFC. I

936
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 1: think they do AFC and NFC because Debo was the NFC.

937
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:30,439
Speaker 1: But what a cool moment for Jake Browning. Zach Taylor

938
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 1: has to get a lot of credit there. Now, he

939
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 1: was also calling about seven double passes one void through

940
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: right to Josh Allen. But still he gets a lot

941
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: of credit for Jake Browning looking good. He just does.

942
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 1: And I think that you went to a Super Bowl

943
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 1: with the guy and you went toe to toe last

944
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: year with the Chiefs. Now I'm with you. Your defensive

945
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 1: coordinator is really really successful. I think part of it

946
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: is like t Higgins, you can't have multiple wide receivers

947
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: making huge money. You just can't build your team like that.

948
00:46:58,400 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: So I think you're gonna have to part with him,

949
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 1: But could you trade him? The problem is he's lost

950
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 1: some value and you know, acquire an offensive lineman, acquire

951
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: a draft pick to draft an offensive for defensive lineman.

952
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: So as long as you've got a good defensive coordinator

953
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:12,280
Speaker 1: and invest in that side of the ball, your defense

954
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: is gonna be good. And to me the key is

955
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 1: then offensive lineman, you got a draft and develop and

956
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 1: then just hit on maybe a sweet running back in

957
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: the third round, find a tight end in the fourth round.

958
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to hit some That's part of sustaining, right,

959
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 1: how the Chiefs sustain Isaiah Pachaco seventh round pick. You

960
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 1: know you're gonna have to replenish that way. So to me,

961
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,320
Speaker 1: as long as Joe Burrows healthy and you have Jamar

962
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 1: Chase and you have you know, lou Amruno as your

963
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, you're gonna be good. You're gonna be good,

964
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,760
Speaker 1: So I would feel pretty good about it. McVeigh and Lafleur.

965
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 1: McVeigh makes twenty million dollars a year and lives in

966
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. Matt Lafleur is the head coach of the

967
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers sinc Anti Bangals. You guys are good

968
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 1: in front. I'm sorry, it's not the Green Bay Packers.

969
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 1: Like you don't leave Ohio State to go coach somewhere

970
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: else in college. You don't leave Alabama gonna go coach

971
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 1: somewhere else in college. You don't leave the Green Bay

972
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 1: Packers if they're good in the pros, like Mike Tomlin's

973
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:12,839
Speaker 1: not leaving the Pittsburgh Steelers if he's winning. So not

974
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: to burst your bubble, but you're not getting those guys.

975
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 1: What's your advice on finding one's purpose in life or

976
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 1: choosing the right career. You know, I can only speak

977
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: to myself. The reason I went and I basically burned

978
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: the boats and the only thing I've ever done as

979
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: revolved around sports is because when I was young, especially

980
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 1: early on in college, I realized, like, I'm not as

981
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: smart as a lot of people. And I saw buddies

982
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 1: that have gone on to build their own businesses, and

983
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 1: I have one that sold it for a lot of

984
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,760
Speaker 1: money and he's really successful. The guy was a genius.

985
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,879
Speaker 1: I'm like, I saw the capabilities intellectually you had to have,

986
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 1: and I realized for me to have success, I had

987
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 1: to find what I liked the most right and then

988
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: just figure it out from there. And what I liked

989
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:02,760
Speaker 1: the most was sports, specifically football, and I was able

990
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 1: to kind of eat shit for a long time, not

991
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: make any money, work long hours, which I don't think

992
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 1: I could have done the same if I was working

993
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: at a car dealship or I was working at an

994
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 1: insurance company where I was working at Morgan Stanley. Now,

995
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: as I've aged, my palette has expanded and other stuff

996
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 1: interests me. But when I was young, find what you

997
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 1: like the most and just go all in. And I

998
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: think that's only my experience, but I've heard enough successful

999
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: people talk about like you've got to follow your passion

1000
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 1: and if you can monetize your passion, which most of

1001
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,479
Speaker 1: the time you can, and it might be ugly at first.

1002
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 1: I didn't make any money until I was like thirty five.

1003
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 1: Like my girlfriend has been making big cash since like

1004
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: her late twenties. I have so many people that I

1005
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: went to college with that were you know, I graduated

1006
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: in like seven eight range. When the financial crisis hit.

1007
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: A lot of those people went into San Francisco in

1008
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 1: like nine to ten and started working for those tech

1009
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 1: tech companies. And we're making hundreds of thousands of dollars

1010
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 1: in their mid twenties up through where we're at now.

1011
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 1: I mean, made a ton of money. And when you

1012
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 1: do what you like to do, you don't get envious

1013
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: over other people having more financial success, especially when you

1014
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 1: have belief that you have room for growth and are

1015
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: going to be able to make money doing what you're doing.

1016
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,359
Speaker 1: But if you don't like what you're doing, at least

1017
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 1: for me, I'd be miserable. And you know, I think

1018
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,839
Speaker 1: it really really helps when you're passionate. Like the reason

1019
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: Andy Reid can work twenty hours a day is he

1020
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 1: fucking loves football. I mean he loves football. The reason

1021
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 1: Warren Buffett Charlie Munger could talk finance all day long,

1022
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:51,359
Speaker 1: they were addicted to it. Those are passion And when

1023
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 1: your passion is what you do, it's lights out because

1024
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 1: you can spend so much more time, like, yeah, I

1025
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: don't get to do like there's sometimes I gotta not

1026
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: do what I want to do. I don't get to

1027
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: go on a vacation or go hang out on Sundays

1028
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,280
Speaker 1: or Saturdays, football stuff's going on. Might have to record

1029
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:12,280
Speaker 1: well late midnight or ten o'clock and get up early

1030
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 1: and do it over again. You don't even think about it.

1031
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: You just do it because it's what you like to do.

1032
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 1: And when you get to do something instead of you

1033
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,839
Speaker 1: have to do something, when that mindset is you can

1034
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 1: just go a lot farther. It's why like the greatest

1035
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: players in sports history, like Tiger Woods loves golf more

1036
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 1: than anything besides probably his son and daughter, Michael Jordan

1037
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 1: loved basketball. Tom Brady was addicted to football. You can't

1038
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 1: spend that much time doing it. Over and over and

1039
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,359
Speaker 1: over and over again if you don't really like it.

1040
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 1: So if you don't, you got to find out what

1041
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: you like to do, and that could be, you know,

1042
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:51,320
Speaker 1: making food, it could be selling car, it could be anything,

1043
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: and then just go into that industry and just do

1044
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 1: everything humanly possible to figure it out and find out

1045
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 1: how to be valuable in that given industry. When you

1046
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 1: work in the business that you're passionate about, it gives

1047
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 1: you an upper hand on the competition because the majority

1048
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,280
Speaker 1: of people you're going against aren't gonna be truly addicted

1049
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 1: to what they do. When I say addicted, like truly

1050
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 1: have a burning desire. So why when you meet people

1051
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 1: with a burning desire for what they do, especially the older,

1052
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,280
Speaker 1: you get most of the time the person's pretty successful

1053
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: because it's hard not to be. What's the answer for

1054
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 1: the Chargers? Is it easy to just hire a new coach?

1055
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: I hate to see the Chargers waste away Herbert. I mean,

1056
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: I don't think they have a choice. What else are

1057
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,760
Speaker 1: you gonna do. You're not changing Herbert, You're not changing

1058
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 1: the owner. I think there's a decent chance they blow

1059
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: everyone out, coaching staff and the general manager and just

1060
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 1: start a scratch. And then the question is would they

1061
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:49,399
Speaker 1: pay to get a Belichick and Josh McDaniels and let

1062
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 1: him hire the general manager with the hire general manager

1063
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: first and then let him hire the coach. Would maybe

1064
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 1: Dean Spanos' son John take over and run it. I

1065
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know that they have a lot

1066
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 1: of question marks because I say historically it's hard to

1067
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 1: have a lot of faith they're going to get it

1068
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 1: right because they tend to go cheap when it comes

1069
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 1: to the coach. So I would be nervous if I

1070
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: was a Charger fan. But the one positive thing you

1071
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 1: have going for you is you have the quarterback and

1072
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: he's under contract, and he's really talented, and he's a

1073
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 1: really good guy, and then he's got the ability if

1074
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: you put the right people around him and get him

1075
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 1: the right coach, you could win. That's all that matters.

1076
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: A John, I'm a Seahawks fan and you and Colin

1077
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,280
Speaker 1: are talking about how Geno is the problem with our team.

1078
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,240
Speaker 1: A lot of Seahawks fans disagree, and Carol is the problem.

1079
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 1: He needs to go for a defensive coach. He hasn't

1080
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 1: had a good defense since seventeen. We've invested the second

1081
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: most money in our defense in the NFL, behind the Niners,

1082
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 1: but our defense is twenty fourth in points allowed. Many

1083
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 1: other top fifteen defenses have even worse rosters than us,

1084
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 1: such as the Patriots, Panthers, Falcon, Saints, Bears, and Vikings.

1085
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:59,280
Speaker 1: Our offense has been horrible, not because of our coordinator,

1086
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 1: but because of Harroll. Our OC is from Washington with

1087
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: Mike Shanahan, and he worked with McVeigh, so his offense

1088
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 1: is supposed to be creative. Yet the offense that Seattle

1089
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 1: has is more basic than vanilla ice cream. There have

1090
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 1: been many stories come out about how Carol interferes with

1091
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: the game plan and the play calling, and how are

1092
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 1: ocs inherit seventy percent of his playbook. Our defense is

1093
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 1: vanilla with no creativity. This guy hates Pete Carroll. The

1094
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 1: Rams are way better than us with a way worse roster.

1095
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 1: Because of coaching, Carol always seems to get out coached

1096
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 1: in every game. Schematically, you and Coward blame Gino. I

1097
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 1: don't blame Gino. My thing with Gino is he has

1098
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 1: a ceiling. Like Gino does not suck, He just has limitations.

1099
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 1: Even if I gave you Sean McVay, Like, you're not

1100
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: winning a playoff game with Gino Smith, Now, would you

1101
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 1: be better with Sean McVay. Would I take Sean McVay

1102
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 1: over Pete Carroll? Of course you can't get Sean McVay.

1103
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: He's not available. Okay, so you fire Pete Carroll, which

1104
00:54:56,719 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 1: I don't think. How do you fire Pete Carroll? Especially

1105
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 1: if you make the play now if you missed the

1106
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 1: playoffs this year, maybe you could justify it. But I

1107
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 1: don't know. I think you guys are in a spot where, yeah,

1108
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 1: I hear you. You know it's hard when you don't

1109
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:18,280
Speaker 1: think you have a creative coach, right, And that's listen,

1110
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 1: Tomlin has won more recently than Carol in the sense

1111
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 1: of maybe he hasn't. I guess if we look at

1112
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 1: the records, but I think they're kind of similar. Like

1113
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 1: what are you guys really doing? Like, clearly you guys

1114
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 1: know what you're doing, like you know football, you know

1115
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 1: how to lead a team, you know how to keep

1116
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 1: the building together, you know how to win games, but

1117
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 1: like what's our ceiling? Where are we going right now?

1118
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 1: And both those guys feel like they're more twenty ten

1119
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 1: than they are twenty twenty five. So you can say,

1120
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 1: hey and every the guys that how you get McVeigh.

1121
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 1: No one's getting McVeigh. Right, There was one offensive coach

1122
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 1: recently available and know Sean Payton, and he costs a

1123
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 1: ninety million dollars like Sean McVay is not available. So

1124
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,799
Speaker 1: I don't really, I think you're kind of screwed. And

1125
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 1: I just don't think your team's gonna fire the guy. Plus,

1126
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 1: I think they owe him a lot of money. He

1127
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 1: makes a ton of cash. He's gonna be your coach.

1128
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 1: As long as he's your coach. Yeah, you're probably screwed.

1129
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 1: He definitely plays a part in defensive limitations. Right, Like

1130
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 1: you said, they've invested a lot of money, and to me,

1131
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:19,399
Speaker 1: their defense sucks. Now it gets back to they made

1132
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 1: a huge trade and they paid Jamal Adams a lot

1133
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,399
Speaker 1: of money. And I know Jamal Adams is making fun

1134
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 1: of the one reporter's wife. Jamal is a fantastic downhill tackler.

1135
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 1: That's all he can do. He can't cover anybody. He

1136
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 1: plays safety, he doesn't play defensive line. So it's like,

1137
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:38,959
Speaker 1: oh yeah, he makes two TFLs He's like, well, fuck,

1138
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: I pay you. Can you cover a tight end? Can

1139
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 1: you cover a big wide receiver? No? Well, I can

1140
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 1: really shoot the gap in a blitz. It's like your

1141
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 1: numbers thirty three not ninety six. So it's like, yeah,

1142
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 1: I saw that, I saw he you know. Pete Carroll

1143
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 1: basically said like, that's unacceptable for Jamal to do that,

1144
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,320
Speaker 1: and Jamal was like, when they go low, I go lower.

1145
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 1: I do kind of like that quote, you know, going

1146
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 1: after someone's wife who just basically quoted a tweet which

1147
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 1: I've done a million times saying yikes or bad play.

1148
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 1: It's like, Jamal, the play was bad. The play was

1149
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 1: a yikes. I think the problem with Jamal who I

1150
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 1: like his playing temperament as a physical player, but like,

1151
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 1: you are paid to play a position that is, you know,

1152
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 1: that has to encapsulate going backwards as much as it

1153
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 1: does going forwards, and you can't cover a soul, and

1154
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 1: I think he gets very insecure about that, and also

1155
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 1: like kind of he's an edgy, angry guy and he's

1156
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 1: super rich now because I gave him a huge contract,

1157
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 1: but god, he's he's a very limited player. And that's

1158
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 1: on Pete Carroll it really is. How do you feel

1159
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 1: about Josh Allen being over critiqued in the media this year?

1160
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 1: I don't even know what that means. I think a

1161
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 1: lot of times we do like reaction to the reaction,

1162
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 1: Like you don't have to react to everyone's opinion, right, Like, listen,

1163
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 1: if you have an opinion like Nick right thinks Rock Purdy,

1164
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 1: if he says five weeks ago he sneks, I understand, Like, okay,

1165
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 1: I disagree, but if he's gonna do it every single week,

1166
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 1: like you have to react to every reaction, right, Like

1167
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 1: David Carr said that Jalen Hurt should get bens from Mariota,

1168
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 1: Like I can't even react to that, Like I'm not

1169
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 1: even I don't even have the energy. What the fuck

1170
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 1: are we talking about? Right? That there are some opinions

1171
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 1: that are just you don't always have to react to

1172
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 1: someone's opinion. Everyone has one, every single person. You can

1173
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 1: type anyone's name into the Internet and get seven million

1174
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 1: takes on something. It's like everyone's gonna have every angle covered,

1175
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 1: and like Josh Allen's really good. Every team besides like

1176
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes and shit, the Eagles take Josh Allen over

1177
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 1: Jalen hurts like forty nine ers obviously, I mean every team.

1178
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's one of those talented quarterbacks we've seen in

1179
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 1: recent memory. Does he have some flaws? Of course? Does

1180
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 1: he play bad sometimes? Sure? Like part of the reason

1181
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 1: once you get forty forty five to fifty million dollars,

1182
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 1: When you have a bad game, people could see the

1183
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 1: NFL wind blows highest at the top of the mountain. Right.

1184
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 1: No one cares about the shitty players. We talk about

1185
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 1: the good ones. You think the Bills are about to

1186
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 1: make a run look really good in Philly? And do

1187
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 1: you think Jordan Love is showing a franchise quarterback potential?

1188
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 1: I do think the Bills, if we look at their

1189
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 1: schedule still pretty hard. They play the Chiefs this week,

1190
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 1: then I think they play the Cowboys. Let me just

1191
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 1: let me just pull up their schedule really quick. So

1192
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 1: here's what the Bills got. They're six and six. They

1193
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 1: play at Kansas City Sunday. That's obviously not an easy

1194
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 1: game given the Chiefs are coming off a loss. Then

1195
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 1: they play the Cowboys. Then they go to LA and

1196
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 1: play the Chargers, which is just always going to be

1197
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 1: a weird game. It'll be a home game, but that's

1198
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 1: a long travel. Then they play the Patriots, and then

1199
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: they finished at the Dolphins. So if they could win

1200
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 1: three games, they will be nine and seven and that

1201
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 1: probably would get them in. So could they beat the Chargers,

1202
00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 1: pay Patriots, and the Dolphins. Yes, But if they win

1203
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 1: two of three of those, could they split one of

1204
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 1: the next two games. So if they're seven and seven

1205
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 1: going into the Chargers, Patriots, and Dolphins, I think they're

1206
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 1: in pretty good shape. Uh. They obviously just got a fund.

1207
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously beating the Chiefs would be a huge,

1208
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 1: huge win. But these next two weeks at Kansas City,

1209
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:22,920
Speaker 1: that place is gonna be bananas. They're coming off a

1210
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 1: loss and he's gonna try, you know, desperately to get

1211
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 1: them back on track. He's gonna that'll be a kitchen

1212
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 1: sink game for Kansas City and then Dallas. Like if

1213
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 1: they were to beat the Eagles, that game would be huge.

1214
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 1: So it's just they dug themselves such a hole. To me,

1215
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 1: if they were seven and five right now, they would

1216
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 1: be like, you'd be fine, but their margin foreer is

1217
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 1: so slim. Big fan of the pod. If you were

1218
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 1: the Patriots, what would you do going forward with such

1219
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 1: a high draft pick, pick what you hope is a

1220
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 1: generational talent at quarterback, or build your roster like San

1221
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 1: Francisco and then find someone who can execute and distribute

1222
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 1: the ball. Seems to be everyone still thinks getting a

1223
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 1: top quarterback solves are your problems. But look at the

1224
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 1: Chargers and Bills. They have top tier quarterbacks but still

1225
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 1: are a long shot to make the playoffs. Yeah, I

1226
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 1: think it's hard, right, You can't. Pretty's an anomaly like

1227
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott's an anomal finding Kirk Cousins in the fourth round.

1228
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 1: You can't bank on finding a quarterback in the mid rounds.

1229
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 1: You can't. It's very, very difficult. Right, most times, when

1230
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 1: you draft a guy, that guy is gonna be average. Right,

1231
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 1: even if Sam Howell Sam Howe might be decent. I

1232
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 1: actually think when you watch him, you go, he definitely

1233
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 1: doesn't suck. But is he a ten year starter on

1234
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 1: good teams. Probably not. He's more likely to be like

1235
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 1: a high end backup, would be my educated guess. And

1236
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 1: he was a highly touted guy who kind of fell

1237
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 1: in the draft because he had a rough senior year.

1238
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 1: It's hard. Not a soul saw this Brock Party think

1239
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 1: come right, No one thought Kirk Cousins was going to

1240
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 1: become like a legitimate every year pro bowler. So it's

1241
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 1: if you think the quarterback has a chance to be

1242
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 1: really good, you just have to take him. You don't

1243
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 1: have a choice. Forty nine ers inn build up their

1244
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 1: roster and then found party right, they got Lucky Belichick,

1245
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 1: traded in Jimmy Garoppolo in year one, so they've had

1246
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 1: a quarterback. Then they use all these other picks on players,

1247
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 1: so and then they try to do Trey Lance. So

1248
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 1: it's I wouldn't say the forty nine ers path the

1249
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 1: building this great roster. I mean they landed Trent Williams

1250
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 1: because Trent Williams would only go play for Kyle Shanahan.

1251
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 1: They tried to trade in a Minnesota Vikings for a

1252
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 1: better pick Trent Williams that I'm gonna stay retired. So

1253
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, part there's some luck involved sometimes

1254
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 1: in life, and the forty nine ers definitely had some

1255
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 1: luck involved with their roster. And this. Do you think

1256
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 1: the way brock perty has changed away scouts view quarterbacks.

1257
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 1: I really don't. I think every quarterbacks an individual entity, right,

1258
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 1: I think we started overdrafting small guys. You know, I

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Speaker 1: don't think Bryce Young before a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 1: would have ever would have been a first round pick

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Speaker 1: five to nine, a buck seventy five, buck eighty, first

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Speaker 1: overall pick in a league full of massive human beings

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Speaker 1: who can run like fucking deers and hit harder than

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Speaker 1: the rock stone cold what are we talking about? And

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Speaker 1: a couple of little quarterbacks kind of hit and Russell

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01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 1: Wilson happened and Kyler kind of happened, and you know,

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Speaker 1: you kind of talked yourself into it, and then you

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01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 1: watch Caz strategy, like, wait, they took that a little

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Speaker 1: guy over that guy, even the Anthony Richardson games before

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Speaker 1: he broke his shoulder, like Jesus got a freak. So

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Speaker 1: I think you got to be very careful about one

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Speaker 1: individual changing it. Brock Party might just be an outlier,

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Speaker 1: and usually they are. I just wanted to see what

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Speaker 1: you think about teams, in this case, my Titans calling

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01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 1: their more aggressive plays that work only at the end

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Speaker 1: of the game. I'd be lying if I watched any

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Speaker 1: of that game. So every game Will has played, they

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Speaker 1: only let him really cook on the last drive. It's

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01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 1: cost us nearly every game since he started. What do

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Speaker 1: you think is going on in the play caller's head

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01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 1: when they choose to call an very conservative game. As fans,

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01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 1: it makes zero sense for us too on Thursday Night football,

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01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 1: run the ball three times on the other team's forty

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Speaker 1: yard line with less than forty minutes to go, needing

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Speaker 1: a touchdown, only to let him throw it on fourth

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01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 1: down and get Burks knocked out on the way down

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01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 1: from a deep throw. In my opinion, you always have

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01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:11,640
Speaker 1: to open the playbook to win, even for a rookie.

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01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 1: By the way, Tim Kelly let Big Jeff have a

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Speaker 1: passing touchdown when we were down twenty plus in the fourth,

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Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you save that play for a time we need?

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Speaker 1: It's a hell of a question, man. I think sometimes

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Speaker 1: one like you said, you don't have a choice, so

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01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 1: you just call pass plays. I think coaches are so

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01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 1: hesitant when they don't think a guy is capable to

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01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 1: call a play. They would normally call when they think

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01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 1: they have a capable guy, But you never know if

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01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 1: the guy's capable until you let him do it. And

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Speaker 1: then sometimes at the end of the game they start

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01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 1: playing prevn defense and you kind of just it's kind

1301
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 1: of hollow yards. But I haven't watched that much Titans

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01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 1: football lately, so it's hard for me to specifically talk

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01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 1: about the instances you're talking about. But I think sometimes

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01:04:56,680 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 1: coaches can be stubborn. I think sometimes co which is,

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01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 1: you know, it's an old school organization. You know. One

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01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 1: thing I've always heard about Verbel is he's I don't

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01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 1: want to say that he's in the game plan meetings

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01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 1: with the offense, but he he leans running the ball.

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01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 1: He's an old school throwback, so I think he plays

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01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 1: a role in it and seas to say, we're throwing

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01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:21,920
Speaker 1: here when we're down two scores and there's six minutes

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Speaker 1: left in the game, you don't have a choice. But

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Speaker 1: I think that's an underrated part about coaches that are

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Speaker 1: coordinators that are working for a conservative head coach, the

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01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:36,960
Speaker 1: influence that guy has on them during the game. Why

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Speaker 1: did you transition from scout to radio when a what

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01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 1: time frame? How did you go about it? New people

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Speaker 1: start without a job, honestly, good word. Well, I got

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Speaker 1: fired when Schip Kelly came in. My buddy Guy Haberman

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01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 1: had a radio show in the Bay Area. I was

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01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 1: living in the Bay Area because I was scouting the

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01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 1: West Coast. I started going on his show and then

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01:05:57,840 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 1: it just kind of organically took off and we got

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Speaker 1: a radio show probably six months later, and then from

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Speaker 1: there we had that show for about three years, and

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Speaker 1: we had management change, and the guy that originally hired

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01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 1: me like me because I would say whatever, it was

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01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 1: just I didn't care. I wasn't worried about hurting people's

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01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 1: feelings talking about, you know, the teams we were covering,

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Speaker 1: and we had the Raiders, and I started being pretty

1331
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:25,280
Speaker 1: involved with the Raiders, doing their post game show and

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01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:28,560
Speaker 1: being around them a lot of training camp and it

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01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 1: you know, when you're covering a team that's not very good,

1334
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:33,439
Speaker 1: you're not always going to be positive and you're gonna

1335
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 1: piss them off. And then they wanted me gone and

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01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 1: they put one of their employees in my time slot,

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01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 1: so they kind of forced me out, and then it's

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01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 1: led to podcasting. That that was like twenty fourteen to sixteen,

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01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 1: and then I've been in the podcasting world since the

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01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 1: fall of twenty sixteen till now, and it's you know,

1341
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 1: I really benefited from radio. I would say it really

1342
01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:57,480
Speaker 1: kind of started at least where I was. I mean

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01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:00,800
Speaker 1: still big in New York and some cities national radio

1344
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 1: like Colin and stuff, but local radio in the Bay

1345
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 1: areas dead, people don't listen. Which think about it like this.

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Speaker 1: In twenty twenty three, there has been probably close to

1347
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 1: fifteen years worth of cars that are bluetooth available. So

1348
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:19,040
Speaker 1: if you have a newer car in the last ten years,

1349
01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 1: you don't go to the radio anymore. You connect to

1350
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 1: your phone. So the advantage that we have as podcasters

1351
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 1: as streamers is massive. And the advantage that they always

1352
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 1: had that when you were in the car you only

1353
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 1: have the choice of listening to the radio is no

1354
01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 1: longer the case. They're done. And the way that they

1355
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:39,560
Speaker 1: value the listener in the sense of the way they

1356
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 1: equated ratings was it's too long to explain, but was

1357
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:47,400
Speaker 1: just such a fugazi And I know everyone that's listening

1358
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:53,760
Speaker 1: to the individual and by the hour, so our technological

1359
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:56,320
Speaker 1: advances is not really a fair fight. So I benefit

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01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:58,840
Speaker 1: a lot from being forced into this. I mean I

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Speaker 1: was fired twice by the time I was thirty one

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Speaker 1: years old, and I wouldn't you know, I say it

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01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:05,439
Speaker 1: all the time, like a lot of people that grow

1364
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 1: up like me. People that got fired was because they're lazier,

1365
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 1: shitty at their job. You work in certain industries, it's

1366
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 1: just you know, you never know, and that's it was

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01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:17,439
Speaker 1: an incredible life lesson for me. And it's the best

1368
01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:19,680
Speaker 1: thing that ever happened to me, forcing me into the

1369
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:23,559
Speaker 1: podcast world. And I couldn't be more grateful and lucky.

1370
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Speaker 1: I mean, there was there was, there was luck in

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01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 1: the way this all worked out based on the circumstances

1372
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 1: that happened to me. I grew up in your local

1373
01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:35,840
Speaker 1: area and was an avid Niner and Redskins fan in

1374
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:38,559
Speaker 1: the eighties and nineties since both were always on TV.

1375
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 1: I still hold a place in my heart for DC

1376
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:44,200
Speaker 1: that team, but it's an abject failure since the Kent

1377
01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:47,800
Speaker 1: Cook family passed in the late nineties, with the team

1378
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:51,520
Speaker 1: in what seems to be tank mode and how seemingly

1379
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 1: throwing a pick six a game. Now, do you think

1380
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 1: they'll draft a quarterback? They're just getting worse by the week.

1381
01:08:57,840 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 1: They quit last week, for sure, I mean last week

1382
01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:04,519
Speaker 1: they got they got clowned and Rivera's nice guy, but

1383
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:07,559
Speaker 1: he's not a very good Coach's it's over, I think

1384
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:09,760
Speaker 1: before we get into what's gonna happen next year? Who's

1385
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 1: gonna be their coach? When you're gonna fire everybody, And

1386
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:15,840
Speaker 1: that's what's gonna happen there. You have to have an

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01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 1: administration to kind of get some idea because if I

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01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:22,320
Speaker 1: tell you Belichick's the coach, I could see him not

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01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:25,439
Speaker 1: drafting a quarterback. If I tell you Ben Johnson or

1390
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 1: some young offensive coordinator, then yeah, I could see them

1391
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:31,599
Speaker 1: wanting their own guy. So I think until or Harbaugh,

1392
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:36,280
Speaker 1: until we know who their coaches, it's really really hard

1393
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 1: to even guess what the hell they're gonna do. Like

1394
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:41,040
Speaker 1: to me, that's the only question in Washington. The matters

1395
01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:43,559
Speaker 1: when they fire Ron Rivera, who are they gonna hire?

1396
01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 1: And I saw Albert Breer in his mailbag. You know

1397
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 1: a lot of people are trying to connect Belichick going there,

1398
01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:52,879
Speaker 1: which who knows. I mean, there's a lot of variables

1399
01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:54,680
Speaker 1: at play. But that's gonna be a guy that we're

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01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:56,680
Speaker 1: gonna talk a lot about. And if he goes there,

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01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 1: I could see him, like I think I could win

1402
01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:00,920
Speaker 1: ten games of samhow play defense at some other players.

1403
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 1: Maybe draft Marvin Harrison to go with McLaurin. Maybe draft

1404
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:06,479
Speaker 1: of someone else. I don't know, so I would say

1405
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 1: everything would be on the table if Belichick's our coach.

1406
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:12,360
Speaker 1: Younger coach usually would probably draft a quarterback. Maybe the

1407
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:14,840
Speaker 1: owner one draft quarterback. I don't know, but I think

1408
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:19,280
Speaker 1: until you know Rivera's fired and they hire somebody, it's

1409
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 1: just it's wasted time to speculate, right. We do it

1410
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:24,960
Speaker 1: a lot in the draft, like who's going to draft

1411
01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:28,479
Speaker 1: who in like February, and then free agency happens and

1412
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 1: then you sign players like, well, they're not drafting that

1413
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 1: position anymore. So it's the same thing with the coach.

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01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:35,680
Speaker 1: Until you know the coach, then you can kind of

1415
01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:38,360
Speaker 1: get some idea of what potentially they will or will

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01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 1: not do. Really love the content of your pod. I

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01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 1: listened to the Acquired podcast. You recommended it and loved it.

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01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:46,760
Speaker 1: I know this isn't a football question, but wondering if

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01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 1: you have any other businesses or life inspiration podcast you

1420
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:53,480
Speaker 1: listen to and if you'd want to share on the podcast.

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01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:59,160
Speaker 1: My finance podcasts are Animal Spirits and The Compound. They're

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01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:01,439
Speaker 1: all kind of under the Josh Brown umbrella. I listened

1423
01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 1: to all their finance stuff on the tape is a

1424
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:09,040
Speaker 1: couple other guys that you see on CNBC. Sometimes that's

1425
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 1: not bad. Dan Nathan is his name? Pretty good? Fine.

1426
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:13,840
Speaker 1: They have a lot of like finance guests on there

1427
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:17,840
Speaker 1: is one I listened to, and a lot of golf podcasts.

1428
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:22,040
Speaker 1: Acquired the All In podcast, But that's kind of a

1429
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:24,960
Speaker 1: combination of like tech politics, a little bit of most

1430
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 1: like pure finance stuff would be the compound guys Animal Spirits,

1431
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 1: and the on the Tape podcast would be the ones

1432
01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:35,599
Speaker 1: I listened to as a lifelong Steelers fan. I think

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01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:39,080
Speaker 1: Tomlin has got to go. No super Bowl with Prime,

1434
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:42,040
Speaker 1: Ben Levion and Antonio Brown. Their year was the year

1435
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:44,400
Speaker 1: that Leveon got hurt against the Patriots. I thought that

1436
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:47,920
Speaker 1: was they were the best team. And I think if

1437
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 1: I remember correctly, that was the year Shasier got hurt.

1438
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:53,960
Speaker 1: Who I don't know if you've seen Shazier. Man, dudes

1439
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:56,680
Speaker 1: going through some shit with his wife. Sure there was

1440
01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:59,720
Speaker 1: no horses in the defense, but that side of the

1441
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:02,720
Speaker 1: ball has got to get together. His team's consistently play

1442
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:05,280
Speaker 1: down to opponents, and our offense HighRes have been nothing

1443
01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 1: but misses. Yeah, man, I that game against Arizona was

1444
01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 1: a fucking embarrassment. You cannot I don't care if seven

1445
01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:21,880
Speaker 1: tropical storms, a hurricane, and a tornado come through and

1446
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 1: the game takes seven days to complete, you cannot lose

1447
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:29,960
Speaker 1: to Jonathan Gannon and the Arizona Cardinals, even once Kenny

1448
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:33,160
Speaker 1: Picketts get knocked out. You gotta win that game. That's unacceptable.

1449
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:35,879
Speaker 1: Like those are the type losses that are fireable offenses,

1450
01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:39,720
Speaker 1: that they really are, that that loss. I thought this

1451
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:42,599
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago when they were potentially gonna

1452
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 1: lose to dtr or No. Jake Browning. I just I

1453
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:49,640
Speaker 1: think he's kind of runs course. I think he's a

1454
01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:51,960
Speaker 1: good example of like maybe it's just time. Maybe it's

1455
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 1: just time. Now the problem with maybe it's just time,

1456
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:57,040
Speaker 1: like who would you hire? But it does feel like

1457
01:12:57,600 --> 01:12:59,720
Speaker 1: as this kind of run its course, I love my

1458
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:03,160
Speaker 1: time someone people will be lined up to hire him,

1459
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 1: But it does feel like it's kind of over. It

1460
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 1: really does. And like there's a difference of firing a

1461
01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:13,360
Speaker 1: guy because he's not good at what he does. Brandon Staley,

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01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 1: Ron Rivera and just like we need to change Andy

1463
01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:20,320
Speaker 1: Reid Philadelphia. How'd that work out worked out for everybody?

1464
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:23,360
Speaker 1: Andy went to Kansas City became a legend. The Chiefs

1465
01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:26,960
Speaker 1: hired Doug won a Super Bowl. Sometimes you just need

1466
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 1: a change. It's just time, And that's I feel. Mike

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Speaker 1: Tomlin and the Steelers are a little similar. It's different

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Speaker 1: because Andy, I think went four and twelve is last year.

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Speaker 1: This Steeler team at work is gonna go like ten

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Speaker 1: and seven, but they're not going anywhere. I just sometimes

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Speaker 1: you just know it when you see it, like it's over.

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Speaker 1: Like Belichick the Patriots, it's over. Mike Tomlin and the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: It's not over in the sense like they could just

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Speaker 1: keep doing this over and over and over again. But

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Speaker 1: isn't it time just maybe to throw a different pitch.

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Speaker 1: Isn't it time? Like you really just want to hold yourself. Well,

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Speaker 1: if you only had three coaches in seventy five years,

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Speaker 1: well who cares? You know, it's cool if you're going

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Speaker 1: to the NAFC Championship every year, but not if you

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Speaker 1: you are struggling to get to ten wins and can't

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Speaker 1: score twenty points a game? What's the point of all this?

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Speaker 1: And that would be my take on tom He would

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Speaker 1: get another job faster and you could blink. But it

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Speaker 1: kind of feels like it's running its course. The volume