1 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to desperately devoted. 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 2: Think of us as your favorite neighbors as we chat 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 2: about life and relationships, all. 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,479 Speaker 3: While we revisit the iconic show Desperate Housewives together. 5 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 2: I'm Terry Hatcher, I'm Andrea Bowen, and I'm Emerson Tani. 6 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 3: This is episode sixteen, The Ladies Who Lunch. 7 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 4: Which is of course another Sondheim reference. We have to 8 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 4: talk about the amazing elaen Stretch who made this song famous, 9 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:29,479 Speaker 4: just because we have to give her her due. And 10 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 4: I'm obsessed with Company the musical, which is what this 11 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 4: is from. 12 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 3: I also am Obsessed with Company and episode sixteen aired 13 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 3: on March twenty seventh, two thousand and five, and I 14 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 3: think The Ladies Who Lunch is a very apt name 15 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 3: for things that we are going to get into in 16 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 3: this episode. 17 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 5: Okay, I just love being able to say that. 18 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 6: Today we are joined by Tamra Judge, the longest running 19 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 6: housewife of the Bravo Real Housewives franchise, and she has 20 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 6: kindly agreed to dive into this episode with us, which 21 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 6: is just so fun. 22 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 4: And we get to discuss the crossover between our two shows, 23 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 4: and there's a lot more to discuss than maybe we 24 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 4: even realized about that connection right off the bat. I mean, 25 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 4: I think, if not. The first line of the episode 26 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:19,559 Speaker 4: of Mary Alice's is good news travels fast. Bad news 27 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 4: moves quite a bit faster. And I feel like that's 28 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 4: that that actually just gave me the show. Yeah, is 29 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 4: because like we as a society, we obviously love gossip 30 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 4: and we love that's the promise of our show, right, 31 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 4: bad news travels fast, and unfortunately and and and fortunately 32 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 4: for the show's sake, With social media, people know things instantly, 33 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 4: right instantly, something happens, you're getting sued, your husband cheats, 34 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 4: whatever it hits, and it spreads like wildfire. 35 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 3: Yea, well, I feel like this is the perfect place 36 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 3: to dive into recapping our episode sixteen, because a lot 37 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:59,559 Speaker 3: happens in this episode, starting with the scandal of Maze 38 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 3: Gibbons getting arrested. 39 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 2: For solicitation in her lingerie. 40 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 3: Yes, news that travels very fast across with Steria Lane. 41 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 3: We also have Gabrielle and Carlos. They have their sewer 42 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 3: system go out. 43 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 5: I love the washing the clothes and the jacuzzie. Yes, 44 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,239 Speaker 5: I thought, oh that's smart. 45 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 2: Okay, can I tell you this actually happened, not the 46 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 2: jacuzzi washing, which I agree is very is very smart. 47 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 2: But so I when my daughter went off to college, 48 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 2: I have at the house that we she grew up in, 49 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,119 Speaker 2: and that's my main house that I've lived in for 50 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 2: over two decades. And then I a long time ago 51 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 2: bought a like a loft in another part of town 52 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 2: that was sort of a pied terre, you know, for 53 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: all those affairs that I didn't have because I wasn't married, 54 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 2: so I couldn't have an affair. But anyway, it was 55 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 2: for my other, my my other personality. 56 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 7: You took a very young bartender once, I did. 57 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 2: I did. I did have sex with a very young 58 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 2: bartender in the have sex with me because. 59 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 7: I was in college. 60 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: I was in college. 61 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 7: Was there, Oh my god? 62 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 2: Could you imagine? 63 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 3: I was in college and I was in on the 64 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 3: East coast, so I was three hours ahead. And I 65 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 3: called my mom at probably it was like nine am 66 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 3: or ten am my time, three hours earlier in LA 67 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 3: And I called her at the loft and she answered 68 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 3: the phone and she answered it like this, hello, And 69 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 3: I said, Hi, are you okay? And she was like, no, no, 70 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,119 Speaker 3: I'm fine, I'm fine. There's just there's someone here there's 71 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 3: someone here. And I was like, what do you mean 72 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 3: there's someone here? Did someone break in? Like you know, 73 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 3: you call the police, like. 74 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: What you thought it was? There's no chance that it's 75 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 1: a guy. 76 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 2: There's no chance your mom is having sex. 77 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 3: I thought she was being like held up at gunpoint. 78 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 3: And she was like, no, no, no, no, there's just 79 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 3: there's a there's a guy. There's the bartender from next 80 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 3: door is here. And I'm like, on purpose? Did he 81 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 3: break in? And and then later I found out she 82 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 3: called me back and you'd taken him home. 83 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 2: He had sex basically all night long, as a young 84 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 2: bartender will do with you. That's the only young person 85 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 2: I've ever had intimate relationships. 86 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 7: So was he like twenty five? 87 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 2: I think he was twenty seven, and I think I 88 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 2: was probably fifty two or something like that. I don't know. 89 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 2: It was a while ago. 90 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 4: But for you, he served it straight up all night long. 91 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 2: Yeah pretty much? Yeah. 92 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: Oh wow, that should. 93 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 2: Be on a certain shirt. Straight up all night long. 94 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 5: No, I haven't had a prostitution situation. 95 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 2: I gotta fish myself story. Oh oh yea. So anyways, 96 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 2: so I was living in this loft because I felt 97 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 2: like my house was too big. When my daughter was 98 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 2: off at college and I got the opportunity to rent 99 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 2: my house out for a lot of money on a 100 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 2: monthly basis to somebody whose own house was under construction. 101 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 2: This person happened to have an Emmy award, which they 102 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 2: sat on my piano, like I have a grand piano, 103 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 2: like when you walk in my house, you see it 104 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 2: up to the left, And they had an Emmy Award 105 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 2: up on my piano, which I was like, oh, could 106 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 2: you just leave that bar out place? 107 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: But I'll switch it out. I'll sw to the name. 108 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 2: They are newly in there. And I got a call 109 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:08,679 Speaker 2: for one day and and and he was saying there's 110 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 2: sewage like backing up in the bathroom, Like, uh, you know, 111 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 2: what what should we do? And so I called a 112 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,799 Speaker 2: bunch of you know, emergency weekend people, but I didn't 113 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 2: want them to be over there, so I ran, you know, 114 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 2: drove over there as fasts I could. And I'm on 115 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 2: my hands and knees like in in the bathroom like 116 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 2: mopping up sewage and you know, like cleaning it all 117 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 2: up and getting it all like just cleaned up, bleaching 118 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 2: everything and getting the whole thing solved. And then then 119 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 2: the guy finally comes and like does the whole draining 120 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 2: or snaking whatever they have to do. But this guy 121 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 2: who's famous himself, he said, I think my favorite part 122 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 2: of renting your house is that I get to tell 123 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 2: people forever that Terry Hatchett was cleaning up sewage. 124 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 4: But this is so your character Desperate Housewives. 125 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 5: I mean, it's taken me back to you behind the 126 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 5: couch trying to get the VHS tape and behind the cushion, 127 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 5: and you're back there like, oh. 128 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 2: My god, So that's that's my sewage story. But you 129 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 2: were saying you have a prostitution story, which sounds. 130 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 5: We haven't really had like a nobody like arrested for prostitution. 131 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 5: But on Jersey they somebody was called a prostitution whore 132 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 5: right season one. I think, yeah, yeah, that's flipping the table. Yeah, 133 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 5: we'll be kind of flipping the table. 134 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 3: This seems obvious to ask, and anyone feel free to 135 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 3: answer this, But with Mazy Gibbons getting arrested for solicitation, 136 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 3: have you ever experienced a neighborhood scandal that ripped through 137 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 3: the neighborhood like this. I'm seeing like all the split 138 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 3: screens in this episode as the phones are ringing, yeahs traveling? 139 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 2: No, honestly not in your real life. 140 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 5: No, not No, been in the same house. 141 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 2: I feel like in my neighborhood, I think the worst 142 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 2: thing that's happened is people have fought over their fence line, 143 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,039 Speaker 2: Like that's happened. 144 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: Like which side belongs to whom? 145 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like trees getting cut down that shouldn't, That's 146 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 2: pretty typical. 147 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 5: Always have that neighbor. 148 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,239 Speaker 2: That's sort of like one neighbor making doing very loud 149 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 2: construction that that's annoying, like that kind of stuff. But 150 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 2: nobody's like sleeping with the other person's gardener. 151 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 5: Not that I'm aware of, but I felt. 152 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 2: Like this subject matter of this storyline with Maize Gibbons, 153 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 2: like did bring up for me, and I wondered if 154 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 2: anybody had an opinion on this of just like I 155 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 2: feel like there's some hypocrisy around the judgment of paying 156 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 2: for sex and like the exchange of oh, you took 157 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 2: me to dinner or a nice weekend getaway, so I 158 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 2: must have sex with you or you know, is only 159 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 2: fans of judgmental Like I almost feel like I feel 160 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 2: like I want women to be empowered and if women 161 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 2: feel good about charging people for sex, then maybe they should, 162 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 2: you know, like like I'm not totally sure that the. 163 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 5: Same same, but I do what makes you happy as 164 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 5: long as it's legal. I mean, obviously prostitute, I don't 165 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 5: think it's legal, but currently Vegas, I don't know. But 166 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 5: I mean, if that's what you want to do and 167 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 5: you're not hurting anybody, I don't care. 168 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's very strange, especially because there's such 169 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 4: a duality for women historically with it being you know, 170 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 4: there's so much shame around sex and what it is, 171 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,439 Speaker 4: but then there was for so long. I mean, it 172 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 4: wasn't it like I think I recently heard that it 173 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 4: wasn't until nineteen ninety three where the term marital rape 174 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 4: was like not it wasn't considered rape if you were married, 175 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 4: and that was up until nineteen ninety three. 176 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 2: You know. 177 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 4: Like, so this idea of it being a power position 178 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 4: something where you can offer a service that you can 179 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 4: provide someone it's. 180 00:08:58,120 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 2: My vagina and I can do what I want. 181 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 6: With you and. 182 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 5: Shirt it's my vagina and I can do that's like 183 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 5: that's a podcast, you know, so I mean with only 184 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 5: fans look at that and it's really blown up and 185 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 5: people are making a ton of money. I mean there's 186 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 5: housewives like Larsa Pippen and Miami. She talks about how 187 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 5: much tons of money she makes doing only fans. 188 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 3: And I've never there because it's only for the fans. 189 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 3: That's why I haven't seen it. 190 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 2: Right, But I mean, I've heard of it, but I 191 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 2: don't know. But it's like it's it's it's it can 192 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 2: be a bunch of anything. 193 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 4: It doesn't necessarily only exist in the space of sex 194 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 4: work or things like that, but it can be which 195 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 4: is what is it mostly like sexual? 196 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 3: Like? 197 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 5: I don't know. 198 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: Basically, I haven't spent any time on it either, but I. 199 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 5: What do you do on your only fans. 200 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 3: I'm not making nearly enough money to have an only fans, 201 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 3: but I do know some people who have only fans, Okay, 202 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 3: I say my friends who do. It is really like 203 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 3: a content curation platform where they are completely in control 204 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 3: of making whatever content they want, and then their subscribers 205 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 3: pay to see their videos. Those are the only fans. 206 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 3: They're the only people who can see those videos. 207 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 5: How can people not screenshot it and send it to 208 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 5: other people? Though? 209 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 3: Well, I see I'm sure that there is a loophole, 210 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 3: but I think a lot of the people I know 211 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 3: are not making content with nudity or porn or no. 212 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 3: I think some people are making content that is like 213 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 3: this is my morning routine and like this is my 214 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 3: health whatever. Now, some friends I know who will like 215 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 3: wear kind of sexy lingerie while they're like talk about 216 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 3: cleaning their house and that I'm sure someone has a 217 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 3: kink for I think for sure the empowering thing about 218 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 3: OnlyFans is you are the person in control of setting 219 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 3: a line of what you want to share or not 220 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 3: share about yourself in a sexual or not sexual content. 221 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 4: So the safer exclusive it's paying for the idea of 222 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 4: I get to see something that others don't, which honestly 223 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 4: also ties into this episode because I know we were 224 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 4: talking a little bit about the feeling of country clubs. 225 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 4: Oh my not paying for exclusivity, right, you're paying to 226 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 4: be a part of And I'm sure you were. 227 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 2: A country clubs. 228 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 5: I was when I lived in Coto, but we don't 229 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 5: have one where we're at right now. So we've had 230 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 5: our house for Eddie's had it for twenty years, and 231 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 5: then we rented it out and then we moved to 232 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:28,719 Speaker 5: Coda Dekaza and we were there for a couple of 233 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 5: years and then we went back to our. 234 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 7: House country clubs. Yeah or nay, Like what are our feelings? 235 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 3: It feels to me I have a judgment of an elitist, 236 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 3: judgmental the way we're seeing Rex Andbury being judged by. 237 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 7: Their country club turning on them. 238 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 3: But I also want to hold space for the fact 239 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 3: that there could be positives. 240 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 2: I think I'm not a member of one. I've always 241 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 2: sort of had a fantasy about getting to be part 242 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 2: of the Teluca Lake golf Course. I don't know that 243 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 2: it's a country club, but it is a golf course 244 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 2: that I would like to play on and be a 245 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 2: member at so that I could play more. And I 246 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 2: think you have to like know someone, So if anybody's 247 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 2: out there, I would like to send you an application. 248 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 5: I know when I moved to Koto and we joined 249 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 5: the country club, and I was probably eleven years into 250 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 5: the show when we did this, I felt like I 251 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 5: made it. 252 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 2: I was like the fact that you could to join 253 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 2: I could, Yeah. 254 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 5: I could afford to join this country club, and I 255 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 5: was like, wow. 256 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: Like I made it. 257 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 5: I made it. And then after a while, it was 258 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 5: very boring because I really don't like leaving my house 259 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 5: very often. I don't even and I don't really like socializing, 260 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 5: and I don't like getting dressed up and all those things. 261 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 2: So it was like we're sort of bonding over that 262 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 2: I do like, I do like socializing, actually, but I 263 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 2: don't really in your house. Yeah, I was going to. 264 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 4: Say, I think now, I've never been a member of 265 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 4: a country club. I certainly didn't grow up in any 266 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 4: sort of community where there was one, Like it's a 267 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 4: it's to me. It exists on TV or in movies, right, 268 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 4: But I think I fall into the NACAM only from 269 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 4: and you kind of mentioned this, but I think I'd 270 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 4: get bored. I think I would get bored seeing the 271 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:09,959 Speaker 4: same people all the time and have eating meals in 272 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 4: the same place and doing all of my socializing in 273 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 4: one space. 274 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 2: When I first moved to la in nineteen eighty five, 275 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 2: I didn't come here with money or you know. I mean, 276 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 2: that wasn't my thing. And there were two things that 277 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 2: stand out for me. One was I was immediately friends 278 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 2: with my next door neighbor, who was an up and 279 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 2: coming comedian, and we used to say to each other. Okay, 280 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 2: whoever gets like the first TV show like first has 281 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 2: to take the other one to McDonald's in a limo 282 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 2: like a drive group. That's how we'll know that we 283 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 2: made it, made it. And then he was always for 284 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 2: we're still friends, but he always was mad because like 285 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 2: then I got like I got the love Boat, and 286 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 2: then I got like mcgiver, and then I got you 287 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,559 Speaker 2: know whatever. I was getting little jobs and I never 288 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 2: took any in the limo because I didn't perceive, you 289 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 2: to myself that it was a big enough job. Like 290 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 2: I My first job that I would have perceived was 291 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 2: McDonald's drive through limo. Worthy was Lewis and Clark. 292 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:13,439 Speaker 1: Oh wow. 293 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 2: It wasn't until then. And I did a lot of 294 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:17,959 Speaker 2: movies and jobs before them, but it wasn't until then 295 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 2: that I was like, Okay. And my other thing that 296 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 2: I still haven't done for myself is I always said, 297 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 2: if I ever had enough money, I would buy box 298 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 2: seats to Hollywood Bowl. You need to do and I 299 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 2: and it's still so that's my version of the country club. 300 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: You should definitely do that. 301 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I should do that. 302 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 3: Have you ever had an experience where you have been 303 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 3: publicly humiliated. 304 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 2: I feel like you have on your show, I mean 305 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 2: not to put you on the spot. Was there was there? 306 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 2: This does go back to like what's been the hardest 307 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 2: moments or whatever? Is there one like I think in 308 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 2: the in the Housewives stuff that I've watched, which is 309 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 2: not a lot, but the one that stands out for 310 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 2: me is when Lisa Rinna through the wine glass in 311 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 2: the Yes Yes, Is there a version of as I 312 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 2: wereson saying like that something like that from your show 313 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 2: that either was very humiliating or also that you just 314 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 2: feel like it's so hard you haven't been able? 315 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 6: Girl? 316 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 5: How long is this podcast? 317 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 2: You go? 318 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 3: For? 319 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 2: Go ahead? So I threw. 320 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 5: Wine and Gina chio space one year because I was 321 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 5: going through my divorce and she kept interfering and putting 322 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 5: things in the press, and then she would be supportive 323 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 5: of my ex because she was always supportive of the underdog, 324 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 5: always no matter who they were, and I just had 325 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 5: had it. So I threw wine in her face. That 326 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 5: was not great, but I did go home and I 327 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 5: didn't took a makeup off, and I fluffed myself up 328 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 5: and I called Eddie and I said, can you please? 329 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 5: He would never spend the night when the kids were 330 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 5: over because we were just dating and I said I 331 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 5: might get arrested tonight, so I just want you to 332 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 5: come over in case I get arrested that I don't 333 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 5: want them to take my kids away. Oh wow, I'm like, 334 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 5: I want to have a very nice Mugshi, I like, 335 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 5: lift my hair up on my pillow. I go if 336 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 5: I get arrested. 337 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 2: Have you you've never been arrested? No, no, no. I 338 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 2: pride myself on that. 339 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's a totally fair question. 340 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: In the housewives. 341 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 2: We've had that have gone to jail. 342 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 5: Yes, well there's some in jail right now. There's some 343 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 5: that just got a jail. We had two housewives on 344 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 5: my cast that have gotten arrested. 345 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, out of that is. 346 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 5: Something I'm very proud and I don't want to and 347 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 5: I'm gonna knock on wood. I'm blaming you, but you 348 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 5: to bail me out. 349 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 6: Okay. 350 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 3: Well, speaking speaking of being arrested, being publicly humiliated, how 351 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 3: you show up for your friends in this moment. Another 352 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 3: big I think theme in this episode is Susan is 353 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 3: going through her heartbreak with Mike and Edie shows up 354 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 3: to try to be a friend to Susan simultaneously. We 355 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 3: know we have Breed trying to be a friend to 356 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:08,640 Speaker 3: Mazie and both Lynette says to Edie and Mazie says 357 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 3: to Brie, you know you haven't really been a true friend. 358 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 5: Wait wait, I have this line written down. This is 359 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 5: what she said. But if you want to be a 360 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 5: supportive friend, but you just can't stand to listen to 361 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 5: people bitch. 362 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 1: Ah, Yeah, that's what Edie said. 363 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 7: That's what Edie says. 364 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that is good. I mean she talks 365 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 3: about that. Okay, there's so much Wait. 366 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 2: Why did you pull that line up? 367 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 5: Because it just resonated with me on the show, Like, 368 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 5: you want to be a support You're in this group 369 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 5: of friends, are you friends with all of them? No, 370 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 5: you're not. You want to be supportive, But I'm so 371 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 5: tired of hearing you bitch. You are bitching about the 372 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 5: same thing be bitching about for the last three seasons. 373 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 5: I'm tired of being supportive. Like you know, it's just 374 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 5: kind of like you're doing it to yourself. 375 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 2: You are a little bit, Edie. I mean you definitely right, 376 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 2: a little bit Eadie. 377 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 4: I'm listening and I'm like Edie would have been a 378 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 4: great real housewife. Oh god, I mean maybe. 379 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 5: Yes, just because with like one of her one liners 380 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 5: like that, I'm like, I would totally say that, but. 381 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 1: This is such a great scene for you. 382 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 3: And I'm curious what kind of if you're like, okay, 383 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 3: I don't want to hear my friend's bitch, what kind 384 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 3: of displays of friendship do mean the most to you? 385 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 3: You know, how do you feel like, especially in a 386 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 3: time of heartbreaker, time of hardship, what is the kind 387 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 3: of support that you look for from your friends. 388 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 5: Are you talking on housewives or are you okay? Real life? 389 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 5: I was just being there for your friends, supporting, checking 390 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 5: in on your friends, And I think that means so 391 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 5: much to me to just check, like how are you doing? 392 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 5: If I have a friend that's going through something, you know, 393 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 5: like Teddy, She's going through cancer right now, it's like, 394 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 5: how are you doing today? 395 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 2: You guys are really friends in real life? 396 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 7: Yes? 397 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 5: Yes, yes. So she was on Beverly Hills for a 398 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 5: few years and then we both got let go around 399 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 5: the same time. I was on Orange County and she's 400 00:18:55,920 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 5: on Beverly Hills and she was doing an other podcast 401 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 5: and they wanted to do iHeart wanted to do a 402 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 5: housewife recap, and she said, well, I would like Tamra 403 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 5: to be my co host in iHeart. Whoever she was 404 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 5: talking to you said, I don't think she's going to 405 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 5: be interested in it, And so I'm like, yeah, because 406 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 5: I knew Teddy, and I'm like, yes, let's do that. 407 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 5: And we are so alike and so different at the 408 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 5: same time. It's so weird and just so bonded and 409 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 5: so like when I started this season, she was diagnosed 410 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 5: like two weeks in, so it was very, very difficult. 411 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 5: But just to you know, to let her know that 412 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 5: I'm there if you ever need anything. You know, she 413 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 5: lives in Encino, I'm in Orange County. It could be 414 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 5: a three hour drive. Yeah, I would just let me know. 415 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 5: I'll drop everything, I'll be there for you. 416 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 2: That's really nice. 417 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 7: Yeah, I feel like you're that kind of friend to 418 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 7: a lot of people in your. 419 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:47,479 Speaker 2: I feel like I am that kind of friend. But 420 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 2: most of my friends are not in the public eye. 421 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 2: Do you have said good friends and how does that 422 00:19:55,440 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 2: work with your good friends like that? No, some real 423 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 2: side of you and what did they think when they 424 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 2: see you on the show, and how you're portrayed. 425 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 5: I have to keep my mom out of the comment 426 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 5: section of Instagram. She learned her lesson. But yeah, so 427 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 5: my real friends that I've known, I have friends for like, 428 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 5: you know. 429 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: Forty years. 430 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, and they're like, I hate this. I hate when 431 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 5: they portray you this way or this happens, and I 432 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 5: just want to get on there and say like, she's 433 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 5: not like that. Even housewives from other franchises. I'm very 434 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 5: very close Dolores from Jersey and Derinda, she they get 435 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 5: so heated. They will call me after episodes and they're like, 436 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 5: that was so wrong, Like you are the most loyal friend, 437 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 5: and you know, loyalty to me is everything. But then 438 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 5: I'm labeled on the show as like, oh, she can't 439 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 5: keep a friend. It's very very difficult to keep a 440 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 5: friend on this show because what is it all about? 441 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 5: Calling people out? And that's what we do. 442 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:59,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I relate. I would say that my 443 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 4: friendships in my life that I have a lot. I've 444 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 4: been so lucky to have so many really long standing friendships, 445 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 4: and I would say that I think that the love 446 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 4: language idea that exists in romantic relationships certainly applies in 447 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 4: your friendships as well, and I would say similarly like 448 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 4: quality time and words of affirmation are probably the big 449 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 4: ones for me to provide in my friendships as well 450 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 4: as what I love to receive. 451 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 2: I had a thing happened the other day. I'll just 452 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 2: quickly share it. So I take care of my nine 453 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,199 Speaker 2: year old parents. My dad has dementia, and I actually 454 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 2: moved them up from Laguna because of that three hour 455 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 2: drive you're talking about, and I just couldn't. I knew 456 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 2: it wasn't sustainable. So I moved them into a house 457 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 2: closer right up the street from me. And so I was. 458 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 2: I actually volunteer at Children's hospital with my dog, where 459 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 2: a dog therapy team, and I was on my way 460 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 2: home from that and I had told my parents, I'm 461 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 2: going to pick you up with the dog, who they love, 462 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 2: and we're going to go to Laurel Tavern, Ventura and 463 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 2: have you know, Hamburgers. And while I was in that process, 464 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 2: my girlfriend called me and she said, oh, do you 465 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 2: want to have dinner tonight? And I was like, actually, 466 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 2: I'm not ready to pick my parents up, but you 467 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 2: could join us. So she joined us. So we're all 468 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 2: there with the dog, you know, on the ground and 469 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 2: we're eating our food and having a great time. And 470 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 2: then as the way it kind of goes with dementia 471 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 2: and old people, like, it was just instantaneous that my 472 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 2: I was like, how are you doing? 473 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 3: Dad? 474 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 2: And he's like, I have to go, and I was like, okay, 475 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 2: we'll just we'll get in the car, and so like 476 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 2: everything becomes like, get the valet, get the think, get 477 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 2: the parents in the car, make sure everybody's safe, and 478 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 2: it all just like happened. So and I'm driving home 479 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 2: and I get them home, I get my dad settled. 480 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 2: All that happens, and I'm going back to my house 481 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 2: and my friend calls me and she's like, did you 482 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 2: get them home? It's everything okay? And I said yeah, 483 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 2: and I go, oh, I left without paying the bill. 484 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 2: Oh I let you know, how you leave your credit 485 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 2: card at the bar, like and and it's and you're 486 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,959 Speaker 2: running a tab. I just blew out of there. I 487 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 2: left my credit card. I didn't pay. 488 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 5: They had your credit card, Yeah. 489 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 2: They did in my credit card. And I was like, 490 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,439 Speaker 2: oh my god, I'm so tired. Okay, I guess I 491 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,360 Speaker 2: have to go back down there. And she's like, I 492 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 2: just left. I'll just turn around and go get the card, 493 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 2: which is totally not true. She was like halfway to 494 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 2: her house, she turned around, she got the card, she 495 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 2: drove it over. 496 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,919 Speaker 5: I just did something similar from Orange County to La 497 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 5: Wow with my friend, well, a friend of Teddy's cell phone. 498 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 6: Oh. 499 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 5: We took Teddy out for her birthday and I drove 500 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 5: Teddy back home with her friend and she left her 501 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 5: cell phone in the car. In the car and I 502 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 5: even got out and I'm looking at them like, it's 503 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 5: not in here. I don't see it. So they're okay. 504 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 5: So I drive and they're like, she calls me, it 505 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 5: has to be in there, and I said, let me 506 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 5: pull on the freeway halfway home, pulled over and I'm like, 507 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,439 Speaker 5: sure enough, it was under my seat. Oh so I'm like, 508 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 5: don't worry, just let's go meet somewhere. I said, like, 509 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 5: you know, forty minutes, I said, waited for her, gave 510 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 5: her cell phone. 511 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, those little moments. 512 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,679 Speaker 3: Friends are the best, and they really they pull us 513 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 3: through so much. And I love I mean, just staying 514 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 3: with the Edie and Susan in this episode their Little 515 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 3: Girl's Trip, when Susan is cleaning out her house and 516 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 3: she is Louise, help us God. 517 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 7: Susan's house is full of sho. 518 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 1: I mean the hat. 519 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 6: I know. 520 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 2: What a big fan. You are so nice And. 521 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 3: Edie pulls her out to the bar, and it made 522 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 3: me think, when you have had we've all had our heartbrokens. 523 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 7: I'm sure at some point, what do you need in heartbreak? 524 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 3: Like? What do you look for? What do you are 525 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 3: you the go out kind of girl? Are you staying 526 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 3: and cry? 527 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: Are you alone? 528 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:53,640 Speaker 7: Do you want company? 529 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: Have you done both? What works better? 530 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 5: So for me not drinking? I think that makes things 531 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:05,640 Speaker 5: worse for everything anyways, and I internalize everything. I make 532 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 5: it worse for myself. I just close down, completely, shut down, 533 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 5: can't do anything, just sad and I just have to 534 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 5: go through it. And then I wake up the next 535 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 5: morning and said, Okay, I'm not doing this anymore. Right, 536 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 5: I'm not doing this anymore. 537 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 4: Like a window of time like your wounds and to 538 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 4: be a martyr in the. 539 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah. 540 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 5: And then I'm like, I can't do this, Yeah, I can't. 541 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 5: Like after the reunion, for like, I sat there for 542 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 5: like two days in the same close and I was 543 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:41,360 Speaker 5: just like so emotionally drained and upset. And then I'm like, Okay, 544 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 5: that's enough. Stop feeling sorry for yourself. Get back out there. Yeah, 545 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 5: get to the gym. Wow. But I shut down and 546 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 5: feel like you. 547 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 4: When you're going through a rough time, would you rather stay? 548 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 4: I mean, I I feel like I know the answer 549 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:55,120 Speaker 4: to this, but maybe. 550 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 2: I will be interested in both of your perspectives on me. 551 00:25:58,440 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 2: I think I know what you're going to say, but 552 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 2: I have been really consciously and circling back to what 553 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 2: you were saying about beginning to go to therapy to 554 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 2: have tools to react differently, and that leads you to 555 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 2: like a happier place. I think that's amazing, and I 556 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 2: think we all can learn from the sort of bravery 557 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 2: of admitting to reinventing yourself is a good idea. I've 558 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 2: been using this phrase of constructive refueling like that. I 559 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,959 Speaker 2: don't think I'm very good at that. When I like, 560 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:35,479 Speaker 2: I feel like I do destruct destructive refueling, which falls 561 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 2: into the I'm going to eat a bag of potato chips, 562 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 2: I'm going to watch eight hours of television in a row. 563 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 2: I'm going to have yes. Yeah, well but okay, okay, 564 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 2: but it's also okay if you're telling me it's okay 565 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 2: if you're in a good space. I love being in 566 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,360 Speaker 2: my bed. I just bought a new comforter by Doze. 567 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 2: By the way, we're not they're not like our brand, 568 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 2: but they should. I am telling you. I got in 569 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 2: it and I was like, what, I'm never getting out, Like, 570 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 2: oh my gosh, it was so good. We need a contract, yes, sponsors. 571 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 2: But it's okay if you if you're not like depressed. 572 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 2: So I have no problem with being in bed for 573 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 2: a conscious day of reading or watching TV. But this 574 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 2: is like, I need to get better at You keep 575 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 2: saying exercise, and I agree with you. You know, go 576 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 2: for a walk, call a friend, get out in nature, 577 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 2: do an ice bath. That's one of the things for me. 578 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 2: But like, so you know, listen to music. These are 579 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 2: all what I would call, you know, constructive refueling from 580 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 2: that time. But to answer your question, I mean, I 581 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 2: think about the last time I really got my heart broken, 582 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 2: I mean, like really badly, which is a long time ago, 583 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 2: but I can remember that pretty well, and I feel 584 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 2: like there's a lot of crying and a lot of 585 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 2: staying by myself, to the point where my close friends 586 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 2: will say, if you don't at least send up smoke signals. 587 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 2: We're like, we're we're coming over there, Like you've got 588 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 2: to answer somebody's text. Is that what you guys would 589 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 2: say about me? 590 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 3: I would say that about you. See, I think I 591 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 3: am different. I think when I'm going through a heartbreak, well, 592 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 3: I'm I'm a crier. 593 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 7: I cry everything. 594 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,679 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just I feel my feelings and I 595 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 3: wear them right on my sleeve. 596 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 7: And it's something I've really worked on. 597 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 1: It's beautiful. 598 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 3: It is beautiful. It's also like not always the best. 599 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 3: If you're like stressed in a work situation, you should 600 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,679 Speaker 3: probably not cry. But I am definitely the person that 601 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 3: if I'm going through a heartbreak and I go to 602 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 3: a coffee shop and someone goes, how are you, I'll 603 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 3: start crying to them right right And I think in 604 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 3: a way that is beautiful. It's very vulnerable. 605 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 7: But I actually. 606 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 3: Really refuel by being out in the world, by going out. 607 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 7: Even by myself. 608 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 3: I sometimes it's too tiring to be with friends or 609 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 3: feel like I have to rehash the heartbreak and tell 610 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 3: my friends and keep them up to speed. And you know, 611 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 3: there's a time and a place for that, but sometimes 612 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 3: that is a little spiritually exhausting for me, and I 613 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 3: think I I like, though, to see that there is 614 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 3: life going on around me, just like my daughter. 615 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, I take a great. 616 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 3: Crasy, go to a bar, maybe you're not even drinking, 617 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 3: go to a coffee shop, be out in the world, 618 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 3: and just observe that, like all these people are having 619 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 3: their lives go on. 620 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: I think that's super healthy. 621 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 5: I like, well, that's what I do, and it's not good, 622 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 5: and I'm learning it's not good through therapy and I 623 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 5: need because then you just internalize everything and then it's 624 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 5: just like. 625 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 4: I tried one time, the like right away days after 626 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 4: the breakup, like go out, you know thing. I tried 627 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 4: it one time because it is not my normal, and 628 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 4: so a friend of mine was like, let's go out. 629 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: Let's get your mind off of it, you know. So 630 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: we did and we ended up at a. 631 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 4: Bar, and you know, I ended up letting some guy 632 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 4: at this bar kiss me, and I was letting you 633 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 4: just let him. 634 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: I just let him, you know, just. 635 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 4: Let's let him and I I and I was so 636 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 4: not cool, like in my I was so aware in 637 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 4: my head like okay, we're going to try this, and 638 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 4: like see what, see what this feels like and I 639 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 4: wanted to burst into tears the moment that he kissed me. 640 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 5: I was not ready. 641 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 4: It was not my way of coping. It was not 642 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 4: fun or cool distraction. 643 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 2: I was like, did you get a free drink out 644 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 2: of it? 645 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 5: You know what? 646 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: I'm sure I did. 647 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 4: But I remember making eye contact with my friend who 648 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 4: had brought me out, and I think she was She 649 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 4: had a smile on her face like yeah, you know, 650 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,719 Speaker 4: like go girl, and I looked at her and then 651 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 4: she very quickly registered like, oh no, this is bad, 652 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 4: this is not what she wants. Ye, so she kind 653 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 4: of tried to come over and save me, and yeah, 654 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 4: but I tried it once. 655 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 5: It's not it's not my not my way. I'm not 656 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 5: leaving my house if I'm sad. Yeah, I just can't. 657 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 5: I can't even fake it. Yeah, I can't get ready. 658 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 5: I can't speaking of faking. 659 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 3: It, and we're running, I know we're running short on time, 660 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 3: but rapid fire round of questions because we love Eatie 661 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 3: so much. And she says she got good at poker 662 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 3: because she's good at bluffing, because she faked so many orgasms. 663 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 3: Faking orgasms. Yeah, who here has done it? I want 664 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 3: to kick us all. 665 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 5: It's a thing. Yeah, it's just a thing. I like 666 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 5: your little hand. Yeah, yeah, that'd be me. I have 667 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 5: now not with you, Eddie. Sorry I'm not talking about that. Yeah. 668 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 5: I feel like sometimes like. 669 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 2: Just get it over with okay, can we just yea, 670 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 2: can we just be done? Okay, you're done. 671 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 5: Okay, I'm done. Yeah you okay? 672 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 3: Right? 673 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 2: But within that, you know, and I would not do 674 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 2: this now because this is and this is part of 675 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 2: what I love about aging is the is the agency 676 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 2: you have over your own feelings. Like I would not 677 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 2: do that now. I would just be like, hey, I'm tired, 678 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 2: I'm done. 679 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 7: Like you know, I think that's have arrived in my life. 680 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 2: You're already there. Yeah. 681 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 3: I mean I think with men, for sure, who hasn't 682 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 3: faked an orgasm with a man? I think it's way 683 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 3: harder to fake an orgasm with a woman. One they're 684 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 3: smarter and you have like similar anatomy going on. So 685 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 3: I just think that is and they're just better secks. 686 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 4: And they're probably like I can see, I see what 687 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 4: you're doing, you know, where as a guy's like. 688 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: That sounded like that was the real thing. 689 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, And there'd be really. 690 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 7: No reason to. 691 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 3: But I do think now at this point in my life, 692 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 3: in any any person that I would choose to be 693 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 3: involved with, I just feel past like I think we're 694 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 3: so orgasm centric in sex. I know we've talked about 695 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 3: this before, but I feel like that's not always you know, 696 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 3: sometimes it's just like, isn't happening, but you still enjoyed 697 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 3: being closed to someone or being intimate, Like it doesn't 698 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 3: have to all be about the leading. 699 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 2: To the orgasm. 700 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, right, that doesn't have to mark just being hell yeah, 701 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 4: we can. 702 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 1: Regardless. 703 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, especially at my age. 704 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 2: So I well, you keep saying that and I'm older 705 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 2: than you, Well, not much, I'm sure. Just to wrap 706 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 2: things up, since you went to all the trouble of 707 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 2: which we really appreciate of watching the episode, were there 708 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 2: any highlights that we haven't covered that stood out for 709 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 2: you in episode sixteen? 710 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 5: Shi, Oh my gosh, when haven't we covered? 711 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 2: I think the only thing that we didn't totally get to, 712 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 2: which I think is a really interesting point. They talk 713 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 2: a lot about what is a good friend, and one 714 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 2: of the girls points out that like a good friend 715 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 2: will a good friend will support each other, but a 716 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 2: great friend will pretend like nothing ever happened in the 717 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 2: first place. 718 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 5: Yes, there was that conversation. 719 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 2: I wasn't sure that I agreed with that. You know 720 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 2: that that that a great friend would just like ignore 721 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 2: whatever the bad thing was and just pretend like it 722 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,719 Speaker 2: didn't happen. I'm a I'm a person that wants to 723 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 2: call out the truth and like, let's let's let's reason 724 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 2: our way beyond whatever the difficulty is, but let's not 725 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 2: pretend like it didn't happen. 726 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 5: I think it depends on what level. Like, like you're saying, 727 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 5: like a good friend, a good friend is not going 728 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 5: to do that, Like you know, when your good friend 729 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 5: is going through something, and like if they absolutely don't 730 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 5: want to talk about it, then there's not much you 731 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 5: can do about it, but just let them know that 732 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 5: you're there for them. But I think that's more like 733 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 5: a superficial friend, we'll just pretend like that didn't happen, right, Yeah, 734 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 5: yeah to me. 735 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 2: I agree to me, it was like sort of flipped 736 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 2: from yea yeah. I thought it was a yeah episode 737 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 2: because I thought about that too. I'm like, wait, is 738 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 2: that right? 739 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 5: Is that accurate? 740 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 4: It's a good line, but it doesn't necessarily mean, it's 741 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 4: a good way of living. 742 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 2: I think you know. 743 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 4: Breeze line which kind of bookends that dynamic between Brion 744 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 4: Gabrielle is when she comes back and she says, good 745 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 4: friends offer to help in a crisis. Great friends don't 746 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,280 Speaker 4: take no for an answer. That I think was more 747 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:29,799 Speaker 4: in line with how I view friends. 748 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 2: And I've definitely had my great friends be like, nope, 749 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,720 Speaker 2: we're coming over. You have one hundred and three fever. 750 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,399 Speaker 2: We're going to take you to the hospital. We don't 751 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 2: care what you say. We're on our way, and that 752 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 2: means everything to me. Yeah. Okay, lastly, yes, since our 753 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 2: podcast is called desperately Devoted? Are you desperately devoted to anything? 754 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 2: Right now? 755 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,320 Speaker 5: Wes More beauty? That's stuff you put on your skin 756 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 5: that makes my old skin look young skin looks amazing. 757 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 5: It's amazing beauty. I can't without it. 758 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 2: Okay, Yes, So she's filming, Okay. 759 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 5: Your skin and like all the freckles and age spots 760 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 5: they all just go away. 761 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 3: Wow, they devoted to Westmom beauty. Y. 762 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I can't thank you enough for being here. 763 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 2: I mean, I just think you having me. It feels 764 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 2: like our worlds needed to collide, and I'm so glad 765 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 2: that they did. 766 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 5: Oh my god, I mean, were season twenties coming now? 767 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 5: I think that you should make an appearance, and I 768 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,799 Speaker 5: think a few of you girls should. We should just 769 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,840 Speaker 5: go to lunch, like no big deal, like we've always 770 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 5: been friends. 771 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 7: Just go to lunch, just. 772 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 1: To go to lunch. Just go to a lunch. 773 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 2: And you know what I'll do, the one who in 774 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,359 Speaker 2: control of this, I'm going to ford you all fall 775 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 2: on the cross of throwing the glass of wine. 776 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 5: Okay, guys, could you imagine me and Vicky and Channing 777 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 5: go sit down and we just have lunch with you? 778 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 7: I can't imagine. I'm manifesting, imagine to. 779 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 2: Be a part of women supporting women. 780 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,720 Speaker 1: So if we get wrong, do you try. 781 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 5: To support all of my friends that have businesses on 782 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 5: the show. Yeah, I really do, and encourage all the 783 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 5: women that I am feeling, I mean with I think 784 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 5: just in the last episode, to encourage them to establish 785 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 5: themselves financially, to not support you rely on anybody but yourself. 786 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 2: All right, well with that? 787 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:14,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, thank you so much for joining us, and as always. 788 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 2: We are desperately devoted to you. 789 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 1: I love that. 790 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,439 Speaker 5: Thank you, guys. For having me than thank you so much.