WEBVTT - BONUS - Thor: Love and Thunder Mailbag + Thor Comics Writer Jason Aaron 0:00:01.040 --> 0:00:04.400 Warning, this bonus episode of x ray Vision candad spoilers 0:00:04.400 --> 0:00:06.640 with Thor, Love and Thunder. Don't listen to it unless 0:00:06.640 --> 0:00:24.520 you have seen that movie. By Hello, my name is 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:26.600 Jasically Stems and welcome Bax to our Vision the Cricket podcast, 0:00:26.600 --> 0:00:28.800 where we dive deep into your favorite shows, movies, comics 0:00:28.800 --> 0:00:32.920 and pop culture. In this bonus episode, we're gonna answer 0:00:33.120 --> 0:00:35.800 some questions that you sent us about the Thor Loven 0:00:35.840 --> 0:00:39.120 Thunder and then we will clear the lane so that 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:47.120 comics legend Thor writer Thor God of Thunder writer major 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:50.960 influence on Thor, Love and Thunder person Jason Aaron can 0:00:51.560 --> 0:00:53.920 be interviewed by us and you can hear him talk 0:00:53.960 --> 0:01:00.000 about just how he created one of the great comic 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:02.080 arcs of our time. Truly. 0:01:02.880 --> 0:01:03.000 Uh. 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:08.959 Next up questions. First question from Kate, what's Aersham up 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:10.679 to Rosie? What's the Rishima? 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:14.280 Well, this is going back to my favorite topic, of course, 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:15.720 eternals rishim. 0:01:15.800 --> 0:01:19.120 Of course, the celestial who was kind of pulling the strings. 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:21.760 Yeah, see in some judgment at the end, he's like, 0:01:21.880 --> 0:01:26.040 come on, I'm just judging you for killing another birthing celestial. 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:28.440 You know, I like the casual nature of this question, like, 0:01:28.480 --> 0:01:32.119 what's he up to? What's that casual got up to? Well, 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:34.520 we saw a couple of celestials in thor Love and Thunder, 0:01:34.880 --> 0:01:36.880 which is what I'm sure inspired this question. They were 0:01:36.920 --> 0:01:40.240 peering through Omnipiut and city. We saw a statue of 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:44.600 Arasham in the Hall of Eternity which got smashed. I 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:48.000 would assume Arisham is somewhere planning on how to He's 0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:53.720 watching Earth, seeing if Earth is worthy of existing, and 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:57.160 planning his judgment whatever that may be. And I think, 0:01:57.240 --> 0:01:59.800 like you, Yeah, you brought up something really good in 0:01:59.840 --> 0:02:03.360 the in the our Lost episode author Love and Thunder 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:06.480 episode about how the celestials could become part of like 0:02:06.560 --> 0:02:10.640 Zeus's god war against the superheroes. So I think there's 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:12.040 many things that he's cooking up. 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:16.120 Well, a couple of things I wonder visa v Eirishim 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:21.799 and Celestials. One, we were introduced to the concept during 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:25.520 the previous phases of the MCU that the Infinity Stones 0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:28.760 were created basically as a weapon in celestials, So I 0:02:28.800 --> 0:02:33.200 wonder how the celestials feel or have they talked about 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:35.760 the fact that nothing can hold them in check? Anymore 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:39.560 like that massive I'm sure will come up with something else, 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:42.120 but that massive weapon that worked once upon time is 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:44.960 just like off the table for them, and I wonder 0:02:45.000 --> 0:02:48.840 if they've thought about it. And then two, you know, 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:53.519 you mentioned your your favorite movie, The Eternals is growing 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:55.639 on me as well. Actually, but the end of that movie, 0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:59.639 we saw that there is there ended up being a 0:02:59.720 --> 0:03:06.040 huge celestial carcass in the Pacific Ocean, and we expect 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:08.600 at some point when they put the Avengers back together, 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:13.360 that that will be the headquarters of the Avengers. But 0:03:14.200 --> 0:03:16.920 I wonder, like, is it a tourist attraction? Like what's 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:18.520 going with the carcass right now? 0:03:18.600 --> 0:03:22.120 Is anyone has anyone noticed it? Is it something? 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:24.800 Is it being worshiped? Is it being ignored? 0:03:24.880 --> 0:03:27.040 Has the government tried to move it? I think we 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:32.280 would all like to know about the cool marblized celestial. Also, like, 0:03:32.440 --> 0:03:35.160 something I really want to know is when the Avengers 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:38.080 inevitably do move in there, make it the headquarters? How 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:39.680 arish I'm going to be feeling about that. I feel 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:41.839 like it's gonna be mad, disrespectful. It was not only 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:45.000 did you kill this celestial, but now you're just living 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:45.680 in its body. 0:03:46.560 --> 0:03:51.240 I know. Next question, Spotty Floppy asks can we expect 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:54.680 Thorn Loki to reunite again? Considering how different their stories are? Well, 0:03:55.000 --> 0:04:00.680 in the comics, Loki has died at times so many 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:04.360 poet on the board many many times and replaced with 0:04:04.560 --> 0:04:09.040 younger versions of himself or different versions like the versions 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:12.240 of himself that seem to suggest and set up the 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:15.720 fact that we can get a Loki, and potentially not 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:18.839 a Loki played by Tom Hiddleston again in the future, 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:21.680 like's that's absolutely on the table, that we either get 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:26.559 a young Loki or a female Loki. That can happen. 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:28.320 I think that that can definitely happen. What do you think? 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:30.279 Yeah, I think so too, And I think that this 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:33.520 is one of the most asked questions because that relationship 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:35.960 means so much to people in the MCU and in 0:04:36.000 --> 0:04:39.960 the comics, but especially in the MCU. So I definitely think. 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:44.000 I think we'll get at least one more Hemsworth Hiddleston reunion, 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:47.000 even if it's just like fleeting like on the Byfrost 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:49.440 or something. But I also think you're right, like Kid 0:04:49.480 --> 0:04:52.520 Loki in the event in Young Avengers, very likely we 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:54.760 already met him in the series spoiler a lot, and 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:59.640 I definitely think Sophia Dimontino's version of Loki is also 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:01.960 probably going to continue in the MCU too. So yeah, 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:05.480 at some point, you know, could see Jane Foster Mighty 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:08.920 Thor and Sophia di Martino Loki. You never know that, 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:12.279 you know, there's there's some there's some Thor reuniting that 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:14.480 could happen in different ways. 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:19.839 That would be extremely exciting. KGP asks what happens next 0:05:19.880 --> 0:05:26.440 with Thor. Gosh, my guess is if they're going secret 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:28.720 Wars that it's going to be some It's going to 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:30.479 be a big secret Wars thing, I think. 0:05:30.520 --> 0:05:32.560 So, Like we've been talking about this a lot where 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:37.560 basically this phase of the MCU, though it hasn't necessarily 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:40.719 always been clear directly where it's going or what connects it, 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:43.400 the one thing that it has had is pretty much 0:05:44.000 --> 0:05:49.320 ninety of the shows have all movies. Shanchi introduced Tarlow 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:52.560 Secret Society, where they have a special way of fighting 0:05:52.600 --> 0:05:57.239 that can harness supernatural stuff. Miss Marvel introduce the Gnaw 0:05:57.720 --> 0:06:02.560 and the clandestine secret world that is on Earth in comics. 0:06:02.600 --> 0:06:05.080 As me and Jason talked about a lot Secret Wars 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:07.880 includes a thing battle worlds where all these dimensions come 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:10.520 together on one Earth. It seems like they're establishing something 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:14.799 like that, And I think Omnipotent City is another example 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:19.679 of a secret society like Wakanda, like Carmouitage that could 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:24.599 become a part of this global battle in Secret Wars. 0:06:24.640 --> 0:06:26.400 But you also did mention something that I think a 0:06:26.400 --> 0:06:29.440 lot of people are thinking after the Stinger in Thor 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:33.560 Love and Thunder, which was War of the Realms as 0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:34.280 a potential. 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:40.719 So in War of the Realms, well, who would they gosh, 0:06:40.720 --> 0:06:43.599 who would they get to be the bad guy? 0:06:43.839 --> 0:06:47.480 I wonder if they just replace Malaketh unless they want 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:48.200 to bring him back. 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:51.880 So in War of the Realms in the comics, which 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:56.560 is a great great crossover, super fun crossover, in which Malachith, 0:06:57.279 --> 0:07:01.280 you know, King of the Dark Elves, enters into an 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:05.920 alliance with rocks On Evil the oil Company, the Evil 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:11.120 Oil Company, to help conquer some of the other realms 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:17.480 in return for access to rox On to like unimpeded 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:22.120 mining and resource extraction from various. 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:25.320 Absolutely shocking no one. It basically destroys every realm that's 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:27.760 essentially like that's the kind of and then you end 0:07:27.800 --> 0:07:29.840 up in a situation where Midguard or Earth is the 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:32.840 only realm. I think it would actually be very easy. 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:34.720 I mean, we did see rocks On in like a 0:07:34.760 --> 0:07:38.640 funny Walmart reimagining like Easter Egg in Loki. But I 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:41.960 do think it'll be really easy to just have Hercules 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:46.559 instead of being instead of Malacheth being the puppet master 0:07:46.680 --> 0:07:48.840 of that where he just wants to control every realm. 0:07:48.840 --> 0:07:51.520 He wants people to bow down to him, and he 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:54.520 will put in an alliance with who never to do so. 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:56.880 And that would also be a reason why Hercules could 0:07:57.400 --> 0:07:59.680 turn his back on his father and team up with 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:02.000 the Rose as we know he's more than likely gonna do. 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:09.840 Here's my pitch, So Kevin listening. 0:08:08.440 --> 0:08:11.680 Are you listening? So? I love the Hercules angle. I 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:15.320 think Hercules we understand that he's got to break good 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:18.120 at some point, and what we know about Hercule may 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:19.840 might change it up. But what we know about Hercules 0:08:19.880 --> 0:08:23.200 from the comics is super super strong, really great guy. 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:30.440 Not the sharpest, He's a he's a he's a dummy. 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:33.640 He loves to get drunk, and he does not hold 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:35.680 his liquor as well as some of the other heavy, 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:38.280 heavy drinkers in the MCU, notably Thor, notably Logan, no, 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:41.120 the others, every guys, Guardian, I mean, Hercules just gets 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:46.720 after it. Now, what if it's this, What if Dario Ager, 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:49.800 CEO of Rockside, we thought. 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:53.320 Might maybe be a bad guy in Love and Thunder that. 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:56.000 We did think that who also in the comics, sold 0:08:56.000 --> 0:09:00.600 his soul in order to become the literal minitula total minutes. 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:03.240 Now we have the police, Now we have the grease connection. 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:05.760 Hercules in the minute all You're really getting into some 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:06.800 good deep stuff there. 0:09:07.520 --> 0:09:12.040 So Ager tricks Hercules. He's like, hey, I'll help you. 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:14.839 We'll get back at Thor. Let's do this, Let's invade 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:17.920 the realms and will fuck thora up. When really what 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:21.200 Agar wants is Hercules to take Thor out so he can, 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:24.560 as the head of rocks On, can just extract all 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:27.440 the natural resources from Vanaheim or wherever. 0:09:27.559 --> 0:09:30.280 What if it's that is like literally a perfect pitch, 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:33.000 and I swear to God, I hope Marvel is listening 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:35.040 because that is one of the best pitches. 0:09:35.280 --> 0:09:38.760 Also, let's put that X ray vision oracle Timfoil, hat 0:09:38.960 --> 0:09:41.040 is happening? That give me the thing I think that's 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:46.160 a great version, especially because the space where Thor is 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:48.120 at right now is a space where he has something 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:50.679 to live for. He loves his family, he wants to 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:54.320 protect the universe, he wants to protect the realms, and 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:57.360 so that gives it even more heart to bring this 0:09:57.440 --> 0:10:01.199 kind of ecological analogous story of this evil corporation. 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:03.520 I think that would be so good. 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:07.440 I'll say something else. Man, if I am an actor 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:13.040 out there, Dariel Aggert theoretically is one of the media's 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:14.040 roles to get it. 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:17.079 I think that's why who everyone assumed Christian Bell was 0:10:17.080 --> 0:10:18.520 going to play, because you're like, if you can get 0:10:18.559 --> 0:10:21.360 him to come back, what is it for? And obviously 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:22.079 it was cool, but. 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:26.560 Dario is so meaty. There's so much meat. It's like 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:31.160 if uh, It's like if a character from The Wolf 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:34.760 of Wall Street was also a super villain who turned 0:10:34.760 --> 0:10:41.000 into a huge like bipedal, super strong bull from It's 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:43.760 it's like a great it would be a really really 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:46.880 great role. You know, I could just see whoever this 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:49.760 character is. You know, they're having a meeting of the 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:54.120 of the shareholders and they're laying into dary Agger. Why 0:10:54.160 --> 0:10:55.880 are we losing this why are we lose? We just 0:10:56.160 --> 0:10:58.480 a massive oil spill over in the government and then 0:10:58.520 --> 0:11:00.440 he just turns into a minute. But I love people. 0:11:00.640 --> 0:11:03.240 Who would be your dream Dario Aga casting, if you've 0:11:03.240 --> 0:11:05.360 got your pitch accepted and they were like Jason put 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:06.960 together the pitch bible, who's. 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:07.360 The dream you go? 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:07.640 First? 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:08.600 I need to think about it. 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:13.120 Okay, you know what I would go. I'm like, if 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:15.760 you're going, who would be? I feel like, you know, 0:11:15.840 --> 0:11:20.040 Miles Teller could do like a very intense right. 0:11:19.920 --> 0:11:21.680 It's actually really really good. 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:24.679 He could bring that that you know, aggression from the 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:26.719 film that made him and then kind of bring that 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:29.520 charm from the newest stuff and and I feel like 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:32.559 I could see him becoming the Minotaur. I feel like 0:11:32.640 --> 0:11:34.199 he's got the the VI. 0:11:34.360 --> 0:11:37.880 I think Kieran Kieran Kolkin like because there's a good 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:43.559 there's something really cool like about a kind of slightly 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:47.920 dickish but unastuming physically human person who turns in this 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:50.040 monstrous manatals. 0:11:49.640 --> 0:11:52.600 Is incredibly smart and also incredibly likely because it hits 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:54.120 some one of the things I think Marvel does that 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:57.000 it's so interesting and that really sets it apart and 0:11:57.000 --> 0:11:59.760 also makes fan casting very fun for us. They love 0:11:59.840 --> 0:12:03.720 to cast someone who has already kind of done the 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:05.920 thing that they want them to do. So they cast 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:09.200 Kit Harrington, the most famous from Game of Thrones, and 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:11.640 they cast him as Black Knight. They cast him as 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:16.320 a medical conspired hero Circe. Jemma Chan had been in 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:19.120 this really incredible show where she played like a robot 0:12:19.160 --> 0:12:21.720 who was gaining sentience and freedom from the people who 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:24.359 created her, very similar to the Journey in Eternals. 0:12:24.520 --> 0:12:26.000 They've often done that. 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:29.080 I mean Fox, the Marvel Side of Fox did it 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:31.800 too with casting you know, Santsa Stark as Gene Gray 0:12:31.880 --> 0:12:35.560 like that. I feel like Kieran Coulkin, they would if 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:38.000 they don't. If they could do Dario Aga and they 0:12:38.040 --> 0:12:40.960 don't cast someone from Succession, that would be a miss. 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:44.240 Like that is Kevin Big you give extra vision a 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:45.400 call will consult for you. 0:12:45.880 --> 0:12:49.640 War of the Realms, Carlus, it would be great. Kate, 0:12:50.320 --> 0:12:52.280 why didn't Moon Night show up when gods are hissing? 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:54.360 It's a great question. Well, first of all, he's merely 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:59.880 an avatars. The real question is why weren't any of 0:12:59.880 --> 0:13:03.480 the Egyptian gods? Maybe they were, I haven't we need 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:09.199 to do a real like granular scan of the omnipotent 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:16.319 city Hall scene, so we don't quite know that they 0:13:16.360 --> 0:13:19.720 weren't there, but I it did feel strange. 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:23.960 That there wasn't a more prominent The gods that they credit. 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:27.440 They credited were quite vague, and it will be really 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:29.200 fun when it's on Disney Plus to go through and 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:32.800 do that granular look. But it did feel as gods 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:35.160 are becoming this really important part of the MCU. I 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:40.240 was definitely also surprised that there wasn't necessarily an obvious 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:43.440 character from the Ianad that we'd met in Moonlight. 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:45.360 You would have thought we would have seen Kanshu there. 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:47.319 Now again, maybe that would have been. 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:51.200 So funny, like in this really outrageous like orgy having place, 0:13:51.280 --> 0:14:01.640 and you just got cranky old f Murray Abram Kanshu. 0:13:57.920 --> 0:13:59.920 Uh and then finally Kochi nineteen eighty four is a 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:02.040 crime that we didn't get a separate Valkyrie and Jane 0:14:02.080 --> 0:14:04.000 Foster buddy movie. There's still time. 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:07.360 I know. I'm like I because I want that. 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:11.000 I am absolutely sure that Jane is coming back in 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:13.160 some form of fashion more of the realms. 0:14:13.200 --> 0:14:16.480 I also connect with that because that was had a 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:19.520 storyline about having a Valhalla choosing to come back, and 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:22.040 then obviously later on becoming a Valkyrie. But this I 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:26.280 agree with one hundred percent because to me, those I 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:28.760 really as you know, if you listen to podcasts, I 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:31.320 love Door, Love and Thunder. But like the moments that 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:34.040 I think really sung to me that I would have 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:36.680 loved to see expanded on were those moments with Jane 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:40.520 and Val, like when King Val goes and finds Jane 0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:44.240 and Jane's broken the sink Alla Wolverine and the much 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:49.920 beloved movie Wolverine Origins. You know that moment between them 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:52.920 where they have you know, are you packed? And they 0:14:52.920 --> 0:14:55.320 both have their weapons and they have the little kind 0:14:55.320 --> 0:14:59.640 of the thing playing Mary J. Blige, And I just 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:01.320 think I would love to see a whole movie of that. 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:02.840 I think we could still see it if I was 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:05.320 gonna pitch it. It would be like a cosmic road trip. 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:09.320 I want the cosmic buddy movie. Maybe they're both Valkyries, 0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:13.320 Maybe they're rounding up other Valkyries. Maybe they're just going 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:15.240 on a fun trip, doesn't have to be anything to 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:17.800 do with trauma action, and they're just like gonna buy 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:19.680 thor a birthday present, and they want to get him 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:22.720 like the funniest birthday present in the universe, Like give 0:15:22.760 --> 0:15:25.360 me that movie. I would say it's a crime if 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:28.520 it doesn't happen. But as Jason said, still lots of time. 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:31.640 I have one more add on for for what we 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:34.960 see next, what happens next with Thor and I. But 0:15:35.040 --> 0:15:37.240 I would extend this to like all of Marvel. 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:37.400 Now. 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:39.800 Of course we're waiting for that kind of like unifying 0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:42.680 force to really kick in, And Kevin Figge announced that 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:46.960 they had a creative Council meeting of a month back now, 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:49.240 so I'd assume they're working on that too. But like 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:52.880 at some point, you know, as we've just seen damage 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:57.440 control as a kind of like human reactionary force to 0:15:57.800 --> 0:16:03.800 the sudden expansion of the population of enhanced people in 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:08.960 the MCU, bad guys win, like at some point a 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:15.040 dark rain kind of situation where you know, the governments 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:17.720 of the world are like enough with these super powered 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:21.240 people like either Circovia style, sign the shit or we're 0:16:21.240 --> 0:16:26.040 coming after you, and then we get like siege. Yeah, 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:30.080 whoever takes control of the military slash government in the 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:32.920 US or in the world is like Okay, let's get 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:36.520 as guard out of Earth they can go. They have 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:40.320 like there's seven other realms, like they don't need to 0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:41.040 be on this one. 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:43.800 Yeah. And I also think something really smart about that 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:47.160 is like, look, I know that the way that they 0:16:47.200 --> 0:16:50.160 did it and have been the trend realms. Yeah, the 0:16:50.200 --> 0:16:53.480 trend of the MCU so far has been this notion 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:55.600 of you open a multiverse, you close it. It's a 0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:59.280 closed loop, right, But let's be real. A version of 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:03.000 Norman Osborne on the King of Marvel Supervillains has been 0:17:03.040 --> 0:17:06.240 to us six one six knows that who it's Spider 0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:10.280 Man is knows the notion of the six one six. 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:15.399 I just think we shouldn't count out seeing those kind 0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:19.679 of things Siege, Dark Grain, and maybe even seeing the 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:22.840 MCU's version of some of those more iconic characters that 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:25.600 we've already seen in the in the Spider Verse, but 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:27.480 reimagined in new ways. 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:30.960 I completely agree that would be so awesome. And you 0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:34.239 know what is awesome. Our interview with Jason Aaron Now 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:37.560 quick note this was recorded before the release of Thor, 0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:41.520 Love and Thunder about a week before, so we had 0:17:41.520 --> 0:17:44.160 no idea what the movie would contain before we talked 0:17:44.200 --> 0:17:47.000 to him. Please enjoy our interview with Great Jason Aaron. 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:03.160 Jason Aaron, thank you so much for joining us. What 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:05.480 was your what's your comics origin story? How did you 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:07.400 decide to be a writer, and then how did you 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:11.679 how did you start first thinking about becoming a comic 0:18:11.680 --> 0:18:12.200 book writer. 0:18:12.640 --> 0:18:15.160 Well, I mean, you know, I think my origin story 0:18:15.200 --> 0:18:18.800 as a comic book reader and involved the spinner rack, 0:18:18.920 --> 0:18:21.200 you know, spinner rack at the local drug store and 0:18:22.600 --> 0:18:25.280 tagging along with my mom every time she should go, 0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:29.119 you know, to the grocery store or wherever, and finding 0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:34.199 new teen Titans and Tory Forst and Blue Devil and 0:18:35.480 --> 0:18:37.639 Long Shot like those are some of the books that 0:18:37.680 --> 0:18:40.080 I'd noticed for the first time that sort of pulled 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:43.800 me in, and I just I've never stopped reading comics, 0:18:43.880 --> 0:18:47.840 you know. I mean I was fifteen or sixteen before 0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:50.800 I discovered a comic book store because I grew up 0:18:50.800 --> 0:18:53.360 in a small town. But once I did, I've I've 0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:56.040 had a pull list one place or another, you know, 0:18:56.359 --> 0:18:59.720 every year since then. So I've kind of always been 0:18:59.760 --> 0:19:02.880 read and knew pretty quick that I, you know, that's 0:19:02.920 --> 0:19:06.639 what I wanted to do. I love to write, and 0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:08.840 I remember telling my parents when I was a kid 0:19:08.880 --> 0:19:11.439 that you know, yeah, I want to write comics someday. 0:19:12.520 --> 0:19:16.000 Had absolutely no idea how you begin to even attempt 0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:19.600 to do that, especially for kid growing up, and you know, 0:19:19.680 --> 0:19:24.600 it's little town and backwards Alabama. So it took until 0:19:24.640 --> 0:19:26.560 I was I was almost thirty. I was in my 0:19:26.640 --> 0:19:29.800 late twenties, and I won a Marvel Comics talent search contest, 0:19:31.520 --> 0:19:35.080 which was this weird thing that Marvel had never really 0:19:35.160 --> 0:19:37.680 done before in that way they and they haven't done 0:19:37.680 --> 0:19:39.920 it since, so it was this kind of strange one 0:19:39.960 --> 0:19:42.840 time thing. I you know, I sort of lucked into. 0:19:42.960 --> 0:19:45.000 I guess I haven't looked back. 0:19:45.080 --> 0:19:48.399 Yeah. I was going to say, it's actually, like really 0:19:48.520 --> 0:19:51.120 rare to find someone who did any kind of comics 0:19:51.160 --> 0:19:54.320 talent search and then ended up getting a career kind 0:19:54.320 --> 0:19:57.480 of consistently writing comics. And that first story I was 0:19:57.480 --> 0:20:01.360 a Wolverine story, right, yeah, yeah, it was so yeah, 0:20:01.400 --> 0:20:03.560 And what was that like for you to you know, 0:20:03.640 --> 0:20:06.199 grown up on those spinner racks, reading those comics and 0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:09.359 then kind of just writing this short Wolverine story and 0:20:09.400 --> 0:20:11.840 it being published in a comic shop that you could 0:20:11.840 --> 0:20:13.119 get from a comic book store. 0:20:13.320 --> 0:20:16.040 I mean, it was. It was surreal. I think it's 0:20:16.040 --> 0:20:19.359 still surreal. I think that the weirdness has never worn off, 0:20:19.480 --> 0:20:23.000 you know. I mean, like I said, I knew pretty 0:20:23.080 --> 0:20:25.160 much my whole life I wanted to be a writer. 0:20:25.800 --> 0:20:28.159 I kind of pursued that in different ways, you know. 0:20:28.240 --> 0:20:31.640 I thought, well, maybe I'll go into journalism, and I 0:20:31.680 --> 0:20:34.760 took like two semesters of journalism in college and realized 0:20:34.840 --> 0:20:37.640 that wasn't for me. And I was writing a bunch 0:20:37.680 --> 0:20:40.880 of terrible novels that hopefully no one will we'll ever 0:20:40.920 --> 0:20:45.000 get to read, and going, you know, just anything I 0:20:45.000 --> 0:20:47.800 could do to write. You know, it was just consumed 0:20:48.080 --> 0:20:52.320 so much of my time, which was really like the 0:20:52.320 --> 0:20:55.440 most important thing I did, you know, through those even 0:20:55.440 --> 0:20:57.399 though I don't really have anything to show for it 0:20:59.240 --> 0:21:03.280 in terms of like published work, it was still all 0:21:03.320 --> 0:21:05.480 that time I spent writing was kind of getting me 0:21:05.560 --> 0:21:10.040 ready for when the opportunity would arise. And then getting this, 0:21:10.160 --> 0:21:12.320 you know, this weird random talent search popped up. So 0:21:12.320 --> 0:21:15.240 it's like I got lucky, but I'd kind of made 0:21:15.240 --> 0:21:16.840 my own luck. And then I felt like I was 0:21:16.920 --> 0:21:21.240 ready by that point to do something interesting, and thankfully, 0:21:21.840 --> 0:21:24.000 you know, caught the attention. It was editor Mike Martz, 0:21:24.000 --> 0:21:26.879 who was the X Men editor at the time. I 0:21:26.960 --> 0:21:29.399 was working like a crappy job at a video rental 0:21:29.440 --> 0:21:32.760 store back when they still had those, you know, and 0:21:32.800 --> 0:21:35.200 I had I had a message on my answering machine 0:21:35.240 --> 0:21:37.639 this or on my cell phone. This was like months 0:21:37.680 --> 0:21:41.000 after the contest, and several months after i'd you know, 0:21:41.119 --> 0:21:43.399 just dropped this page, this piece of paper in a 0:21:43.440 --> 0:21:46.480 box and there was a message on my phone just hey, 0:21:46.520 --> 0:21:48.440 this is Mike Martins and Marvel give me a call back. 0:21:48.480 --> 0:21:51.480 And literally my first thought was like, man, that's really 0:21:51.560 --> 0:21:53.720 cruel of the guy to call me just to tell 0:21:53.720 --> 0:21:56.040 me I did not win, Like why would he do that? 0:21:58.720 --> 0:22:02.760 What a terrible guy. But it turns out I did win. 0:22:03.040 --> 0:22:09.159 So yeah, how did you remember when I first started writing, 0:22:09.920 --> 0:22:12.280