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Speaker 1: Welcome back bats for Happy Hour listeners. Uh, we had

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Speaker 1: Becca an interesting episode last night. Dare I say it?

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Speaker 1: I'll give it interesting because I personally feel cheated. I

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Speaker 1: don't know about you feel cheated because half the episode

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Speaker 1: was a regular episode and half the episode was mentel all.

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Speaker 1: If I want to watch two hours of anything, it's

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Speaker 1: mentel all. And we didn't get that. It did not

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Speaker 1: It's like on par with everything else this season and

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Speaker 1: this year it was cut short. It was choppy. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I do like the fact though. One thing I did

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Speaker 1: like about mental is that there was less men, but

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Speaker 1: it was like the really like standout men that we've

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Speaker 1: seen from this season. It felt very very much like

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Speaker 1: a Real Housewives reunion, and of course we love a

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Speaker 1: Real Housewives, so I appreciated that fact. But yeah, I

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Speaker 1: wanted to get into it a lot more. And they're

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Speaker 1: just when I say choppy, I felt like we would

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Speaker 1: get into a conversation or the drama and then it

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Speaker 1: would pivot to something else and then pivot, and it

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Speaker 1: was like kind of all over the place. You know,

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Speaker 1: I think we should just get into it. We are,

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Speaker 1: of course going to have one of our favorites from

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Speaker 1: this season who we did see have an amazing presence

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Speaker 1: at Mental All, and that is Riley. So we're going

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Speaker 1: to have him on later today and we'll get the

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Speaker 1: tea from him and we'll pick his brain on all

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Speaker 1: things from the season, from the switcher room, from Mental All.

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Speaker 1: But let's just get into it from the beginning, because,

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Speaker 1: like you said, it was only half of a regular

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Speaker 1: episode when Chris Harrison walked in. I'm really bothered we

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Speaker 1: only had half for Mental The whole season's been dragging

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Speaker 1: on and then you cheat us of Mental All. I'm

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Speaker 1: telling you, I know you guys are upset just like us.

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Speaker 1: I mean, so okay, Blake. We said on the last

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Speaker 1: episode that Blake. We were like, how in the world

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Speaker 1: is he still here? And then he gets a one

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Speaker 1: on one. There wasn't one person sitting in that room

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Speaker 1: of men that thought Blake was coming back. It was

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Speaker 1: all their faces. If you forgot go rewind and watch

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Speaker 1: the first five minutes. Everyone was looking like this man.

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Speaker 1: They helped unpack his bags, probably before that they knew

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Speaker 1: like he was set up to go home by this point,

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Speaker 1: like there has been barely any any interaction that we've

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Speaker 1: seen between him and Tasia and so it was bound

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Speaker 1: to happen. Yeah, he knew a Tasia knew it. The

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Speaker 1: shaman knew it. She probably said it. But the interesting

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Speaker 1: part about Blake leaving wasn't the fact that he left,

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Speaker 1: It's that it kind of then triggered this reaction in

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Speaker 1: Taitia where we then see her go into the house

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Speaker 1: again with all the men and pulled Riley aside, and

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Speaker 1: it was like this domino effect of having to send

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Speaker 1: want to touch on this briefly because, like I said,

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Speaker 1: Riley has been one of my favorites. He was one

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Speaker 1: of the guys that I met on the date that

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Speaker 1: I hosted who really stuck out to me. He was

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Speaker 1: a complete gentleman. How did you feel feel about the

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Speaker 1: way she sent Riley home instead of bringing him to

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Speaker 1: a proper row ceremony. I'm torn on this because when

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Speaker 1: you're having to eliminate multiple men because you're separating them

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Speaker 1: from the ones you're going to meet their families, it's

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Speaker 1: really hard because no matter who's left, no matter what

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Speaker 1: the romantic connection is, you definitely feel something for them,

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Speaker 1: even if it's on a friendship level, and it is

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Speaker 1: devastating that you're going to break their hearts because they

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Speaker 1: don't know what you know. And I remember how emotional

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Speaker 1: this week was for me. On my season Matt Munson,

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Speaker 1: people could not he was like a Blake, not like

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Speaker 1: Blake as a person, but just Blake is and you

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Speaker 1: didn't see a lot of them and you didn't understand

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Speaker 1: why he was still there. But I felt so connected

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Speaker 1: Tatia's emotion because it is hard, and I know that

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Speaker 1: I think it quite honestly made him a little bit

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Speaker 1: Usually when some when any lead sends a guy home,

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Speaker 1: But I think for him, he was so confused and

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Speaker 1: I mean I you could tell Riley was in complete

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Speaker 1: we did see more of him, which I'm sure you

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Speaker 1: Benny totally just has like a cauldron in the back,

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Speaker 1: now you can you're cue, now you can walk. You know,

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Speaker 1: he said, move over, I'm stirring the pot tonight. That's

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Speaker 1: exactly what he said. He have you okay, have you

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Speaker 1: I'd so like to do it without criticizing Claire and

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Speaker 1: so much, so much. Yeah, you could have definitely, and

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Speaker 1: But overall, I mean, Tasia looked stunning. I have to

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Speaker 1: would hope they would for any lead. Yeah, but it

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of you don't show emotion. You're supposed

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00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 1: to be a certain way. So to me, when I

427
00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:01,320
Speaker 1: saw you be so vulnerable and so open, I thought

428
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 1: it was extremely refreshing, and I thought it was great

429
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 1: for the audience to see that. I'm sure it was

430
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 1: hard for you. I know it was hard for you.

431
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,879
Speaker 1: You said it, but I loved that you did it

432
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,160
Speaker 1: and you gave us that, and you showed us another

433
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,400
Speaker 1: side of you. And I think Tatia, which she does say,

434
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,639
Speaker 1: felt the same way. And then you see her reassure

435
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 1: you that the reason that you went home is not

436
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 1: because you were open with her. Because I thought, oh

437
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 1: my gosh, please don't. I don't want I don't want

438
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,680
Speaker 1: this man to go back into a hole where he

439
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 1: feels like he can't express himself because he did it

440
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 1: and then this happened. So I was so glad that

441
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 1: she gave you that and kind of like gave you

442
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,199
Speaker 1: that freedom to say it's okay. For you to be yourself.

443
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:48,120
Speaker 1: I'll just tell you now, women love that, Rightley, That's

444
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 1: good to know. I mean there's a lot actually to

445
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 1: unpack there, um, because not that you you mentioned it,

446
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 1: just about just the way I grew up, right, um,

447
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,920
Speaker 1: and in my neighborhood and the community and in the

448
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 1: black community. And we have from Detroit, Detroit, Okay, okay,

449
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 1: yeah U So yeah, I was born to raise on

450
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 1: the east side of Detroit and in that community. I mean,

451
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 1: we're just taught not to show that much emotion. And

452
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 1: I mean that's just the way that I got it.

453
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 1: I got it from you know, my father, I got

454
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,400
Speaker 1: it from my uncle's. We're just built to be more

455
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 1: macho for whatever reason, I don't know why. Um. And

456
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 1: so whatever you do show those type of emotions or

457
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 1: you do cry, it's like, oh, you're being soft and

458
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to do something like that. Um. And for me,

459
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:40,360
Speaker 1: it's like I'm learning that the real strength is being

460
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 1: able to, you know, be vulnerable and express yourself because otherwise,

461
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:48,400
Speaker 1: I mean, if first of all, everybody has emotion, right,

462
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,200
Speaker 1: we try to act like we try to act like

463
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 1: we don't, but that's not the case. And if you

464
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:53,680
Speaker 1: just hold it all in it it comes out in

465
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 1: this big rage all at the end. And that is

466
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 1: really what I grew up on. It was just a

467
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 1: bunch of you know men, and like my father, he

468
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 1: was a very troubled guy and he would hold off

469
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 1: his anger in and then when a very very minor

470
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 1: thing ticked him off, he's just you know, losing it. Yeah.

471
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 1: And I was just kind of like, you know, that's

472
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 1: not That's not the type of man I want to be. So,

473
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 1: you know, in that situation, when it was time for

474
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 1: me to actually open up and talk to tell you,

475
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 1: I was very hesitant. It was very, very difficult for me.

476
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 1: But I was like home times in next week, you know,

477
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, Um, she I wanted

478
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 1: to be able to meet my family, but we have

479
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 1: to talk about some things beforehand. I don't think it's

480
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 1: fair to her or myself not to bring these type

481
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 1: of things up. I told him, getting married, okay, and

482
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 1: That's what I'm about. I want to be open and

483
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 1: honest and transparent and I so I just kind of

484
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,160
Speaker 1: let it flow as best I could and just get

485
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 1: through it. I didn't know I would breakdown like I did,

486
00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 1: but you know it happens, I guess did you? And

487
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 1: I wanted to phrase this in the right way, So

488
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 1: it seems like when Tasia did say goodbye to you

489
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: and you left, did you like, was this in the

490
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 1: back of your mind the entire time until you saw

491
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 1: her again on stage at Mental All when she's like,

492
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't because you were vulnerable and you

493
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 1: shared this story with me of why it and did

494
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 1: did you carry that weight and like the what ifs

495
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: and the wise until you saw her again? Or were

496
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 1: you once you came back home and were able to

497
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 1: be with your friends and family, you know, back to

498
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,679
Speaker 1: your normal life and routine, did that help you in anyway?

499
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 1: Or did you need that closure from her at Mental

500
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 1: All to have her you know? Basically, we're sure you

501
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,399
Speaker 1: face to face that it wasn't because of the story

502
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 1: that you shared, you know, of why you parted ways, right.

503
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 1: I needed that closure one hundred percent. I was back

504
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 1: in my apartment in New York and it was really

505
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 1: on my mind. I Mean, it was kind of I

506
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 1: don't want to have going crazy, but it was really

507
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,880
Speaker 1: just bugging me and I'm like, man, I don't seem

508
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 1: to be able to get this right. And I know

509
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: I had these things in my mind, and I know

510
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: I need to talk to you know, my potential spouse

511
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: about these type of things. But it am I doing

512
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 1: it the wrong way? I mean I am I'm still single.

513
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 1: Something obviously is not working. I've been in relationships and

514
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,880
Speaker 1: I'm handing out. So what is it that I'm doing wrong?

515
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 1: And I'm like all right, maybe, And I was thinking, Okay,

516
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 1: well maybe if I didn't tell her, maybe she would

517
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 1: have thought something else of me, and then maybe I

518
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: would have made it to hometowns and you know whatever.

519
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 1: And I'm just like, okay. So when we got to

520
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: the mental all that was one of the things like

521
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,959
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk to her about. And I mean,

522
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 1: even if she would have told me like hey, yeah,

523
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 1: that was it, at least it would have been an

524
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 1: honest answer and then I can go back and I

525
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 1: can work all myself and just try to get touch together.

526
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: But then when she told me like, no, that's not

527
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: the case at all, like she appreciated me sharing and

528
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 1: stuff like that, I was like, Okay, that's great. So

529
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 1: I did do something right. We just didn't work out,

530
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 1: and that's fine. You know, she can find like it

531
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 1: because we didn't work out. Um Um, I know that.

532
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: You know, she went on and she was connecting with

533
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: a lot of other guys and house. I saw it

534
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: back on the show when I was like, damn it,

535
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: I really wanted to connect more. But um, because you

536
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 1: didn't have an argument one right, you know, So here

537
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 1: I'll say it. I didn't like hash what she said

538
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: to you when she sent you home because I felt like,

539
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: and I understand the confusion, because I felt like she

540
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 1: flipped it on you and she said to you, I

541
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: don't want to make you feel uncomfortable about me meeting

542
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 1: your family, And I thought, oh my god, that's so unfair,

543
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: like let him make that decision. That's not fair for

544
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 1: you to use that as an excuse as to why

545
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 1: you're sending him home. I would have preferred it as like, hey,

546
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: I have a deeper connection with other people. We just

547
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,439
Speaker 1: we just didn't get there. You haven't had a one

548
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 1: on one blah blah blah blah. So like I felt

549
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 1: bad for you in that moment because and I could

550
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 1: see your frustration and you even questioned her like why

551
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 1: did you bring me this far? Then? Why did this happen?

552
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 1: And you seemed very confused. So one I want to know,

553
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: did you really think that, you know, like you were

554
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 1: going far? And like prior to watching the show, Now

555
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 1: that you are watching the show, does it make more

556
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 1: sense to you why you went home? Wait, so I'm

557
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 1: trying to understand you. The first question was, did you

558
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 1: did you feel like, yeah, prior to watching the show,

559
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 1: like when you were in the moment, did you feel

560
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: like you were really going far on the show even

561
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 1: without the one on one, even hearing how she ended things?

562
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 1: Did you really in that moment think I have a

563
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: chance to be the one at the end. And then

564
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: the second part is now that you are watching the show,

565
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: does it all make sense to you? Okay, So it's

566
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: a that's difficult for me to answer because I don't

567
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: know at what point, like during the show, you're asking

568
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: me like, did I think I could go far? Was

569
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: it like when I first saw her? Was it at

570
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: the end at the end when she was when she

571
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: came into the room and she just sent blakem home

572
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 1: and then she calls you, okay in that moment that

573
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: I think I could still make it to hometowns Um wow, Uh? Yes,

574
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: because I was still there and I was part of

575
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 1: my confusion. I was like, well, I haven't had a

576
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: one on one, and I've heard that, you know people

577
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 1: who at this point, if you're going to be at

578
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: the home business, you've more than likely had one on

579
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: one already. But I was like, there has to be

580
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: a reason why she still has me here. So I'm

581
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: still hopeful, um, and I know the feelings that I

582
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: have Potasio, So I'm like, all right, I'm going to

583
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: just run with that and try to stay positive and

584
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: just keep going. U. So yeah, in that moment, I

585
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: guess I did. Um. You know, still think I had

586
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: a shot. But now that you're now that you're watching

587
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: the show, what do you think about the relationship that

588
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,239
Speaker 1: you have WITHO Tasio personality? But oh, yes, now here

589
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: when her comes the good answer? I mean to be honest,

590
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 1: I was getting my ass kicked, Like listen, I was.

591
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 1: I saw when I first saw I think the first

592
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: episode when she got there. I think it might have

593
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: been you know, Brendan he had his one on one

594
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 1: and I saw how romantic it was. And then I'm

595
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 1: watching Ben and his one on one and I'm watching

596
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: Zach and I am like, yo, I am light years

597
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: behind the men right now, what's going on? So no

598
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 1: to be like, I didn't think I was gonna make

599
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: it too hometowns based on all of that stuff that

600
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: I saw until like at the very end, I guess

601
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 1: we I started to come alive a little bit, so

602
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: there was like, Okay, there's a little glimmer you know,

603
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: of hope. But I think it was just too late.

604
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: I think she had built a solid foundation. You know,

605
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: I've been and all those guys well before I had

606
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: my well, I guess I had opportunity to open up,

607
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 1: but well before I actually did open it. It is

608
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: such a weird concept. Like I think for any season

609
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: as a lead or even as a contestant, you think

610
00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: you know what's going on. You think you're you know,

611
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: you're even with the guys. You hear and see enough,

612
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: but it's really not until you watched the season back

613
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: and its airing week by week where you start to

614
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: pick up on so much that you actually didn't know

615
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: what was going on. You see these other relationships unfold.

616
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: Like I remember watching my season back being like, oh my,

617
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: there was so much I missed with all of these

618
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: guys that I had no idea what was going on.

619
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 1: So it's just it's a really weird thing because you're

620
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: living in it, like this is your daily life for

621
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: two months basically when you're in this bubble dating somebody,

622
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: and then you see these other relationships where you do

623
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: then notice that they are either progressing a lot faster

624
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: or a lot slower than you. So it's just it's

625
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 1: very trippy. Um. What was it about Tasia that made

626
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: you fall so hard for her? Oh? Like beyond the obvious?

627
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: You know, right, yeah, I got you, I got you

628
00:31:53,400 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: for me? It was I'm again, I like, I like

629
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: when a woman can like take control, show some initiative. Um,

630
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: and I mean it. I I don't mind being the

631
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: dominant figure or something like that, however you want to

632
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: put it, I guess, um. But when I see some

633
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: like a woman in charge of her situation, which she was,

634
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: um throughout the season, and then you know, she was

635
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: actually very caring and very thoughtful and she listened to

636
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: everybody too. That's one of the big things, um, that

637
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: that I'm about It just funt of somebody that was

638
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: extremely nice and kind, and she was about that. She

639
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: would you know, listen to everything that we said, um,

640
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: and take the time to get to note every single person.

641
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: I think that was one of the differences when Taysia

642
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: actually got on the show. Not that I didn't have, um,

643
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 1: you know, adequate time with Claire. I mean I did, um,

644
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: but you could just tell it was a completely different

645
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: feel once once to take she got there, So I

646
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: thought that about her. Oh, you guys had a different,

647
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: different reaction wayn So we love Claire here too, but

648
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 1: it was just so funny, like the reaction was so different.

649
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: So let's get into the mentel all. First of all,

650
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 1: you had the best seat in the house that was

651
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 1: next to Bennett. Oh my god, I'm a Bennett fan, Okay,

652
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: but I feel like yes, so I yes. If you

653
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: check my social there there's a eulogy that we did

654
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: for Bennett for him going back. I like, here's the thing.

655
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: Do I think Do I think he's great for Tasia?

656
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: Absolutely not. Do I think he is great for me

657
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: as a viewer? A hundred percent. He's charming and condescending

658
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: and I love it. I love the k He's a character.

659
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 1: But I'll reserve my Benet question. I know people are

660
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: sticking of me talking about him, so I I am

661
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: curious on your thoughts about him. But I want to

662
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 1: talk about you and Joseph, because first of all, I

663
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: was mad they brought him back, and then I was

664
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: mad they brought him back knowing that he was going

665
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: to react that way. You. The camera was on you

666
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:23,439
Speaker 1: a lot, so like you are fidgeting. You are clearly uncomfortable,

667
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: but uncomfortable not because he makes you uncomfortable. You look

668
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: uncomfortable because you're like, I want to get at him,

669
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: And if there weren't cameras here, I would handle this

670
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: situation a completely different way. I actually said that on

671
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: last season, and they couldn't. They couldn't here, and it's

672
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: the camera's water here. This a completely different way about

673
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: wanting the females in the house. But I felt like

674
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,399
Speaker 1: that's how you were. I mean, you showed so much

675
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,760
Speaker 1: restraint because he was he could completely be an asshole,

676
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: but everybody else kind of had to be in line.

677
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: So I just want to know what were your your

678
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: emotions and your thoughts that you felt as you were

679
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 1: sitting there watching him still be, if not even more,

680
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: the disrespectful demon that he is now. See for me

681
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 1: with with Joseph, he's I can't stand Yosep Okay, I'm

682
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: gonna keep it red. I can't stand it. Guy like

683
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 1: yosef Um, Guys like him, they think they can move

684
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: and talk and behave any way that they want to,

685
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: you know, Um, and nothing's gonna happen to him. And

686
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: I don't really know where they get that mentality from.

687
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: But what bothered me was the way he behaved towards Claire.

688
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 1: I mean, you have a situation where, yeah, you may

689
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,879
Speaker 1: not have agreed with um. You know, the strip Dodgeball date,

690
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: a date that you didn't even go on. Here you

691
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: are again speaking on behalf of the group, which is

692
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 1: something that you're not supposed to be doing. Nobody wants

693
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: you talking on their behalf. Who, you know what I'm saying,

694
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 1: put you on this pedestal. You know who made you

695
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 1: the representator of this of the bachelor's on the show. Um.

696
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: But when I see a man yelling at a woman

697
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 1: like that, all I see is abuse, That's all I'm

698
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: That's that's the first thing that comes in my mind.

699
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,280
Speaker 1: You not need to be raising your voice and screaming

700
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: and hollering and calling somebody names like that. Um. I

701
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: just know, and I know that just from my childhood

702
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 1: I grew up, and I saw a lot of it

703
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 1: men um treating women uh poorly and making them feel

704
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 1: bad just because it makes them feel good and it

705
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: makes them feel superior. And that's exactly what I saw

706
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 1: with him, And I'm like, what are you doing. You

707
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: can talk to her and you can tell her that

708
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: you disagree, but you don't have to yell at her

709
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 1: and scream at her and getting her face and tell

710
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,399
Speaker 1: her that she would be a bad mother or whatever

711
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 1: he was telling classes. I'm like, Okay, what's wrong with you?

712
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 1: Somebody needs to put you in your place. All you

713
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: need is one good ass woman. And you know what

714
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying, man, y'all, might ya might have to cut

715
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: that out, but I'm just saying, it's all the tickets one,

716
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 1: all the takes one. But I tell, like, listen, I'm like,

717
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: all right, let let me tell I mean, I'm not

718
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 1: the guy I'm gonna talk to you. And you know

719
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't save the entire world. I can't

720
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:57,959
Speaker 1: save a bunch of guys like else. There are people

721
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: out there like him who believe, um, you know, in

722
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: his message and his rhetoric. And you know, I got

723
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: some of those people commenting at me, you know, on

724
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,959
Speaker 1: social media and stuff like that, and that's that's fine

725
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: or whatever, do whatever you gotta do. But I just

726
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: I just don't like people like that. Do you know

727
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: that he's post on social media in his own boxers

728
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 1: shirtless while he was out there talking about other people?

729
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 1: There are pictures of him in his boxers shirtless? Yes,

730
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: shout out? I cannot. I do not know who showed

731
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: that to me? Have we not talked about this in

732
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 1: the podcast? Really? Is he the one that you called

733
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 1: lunch meat? Not? I was Spencer? We can talk about him.

734
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: I was Spencer. Oh my god, I was gonna say

735
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: if it was Joseph, I wish that you would have

736
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: just brought up to like Deli meat during mental I'll

737
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:46,720
Speaker 1: understand missed opportunity. Who were you cool with in the house?

738
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:52,919
Speaker 1: Who's that cool within the house? Um? See we shifting gears?

739
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 1: I feel like it was something else. I was gonna

740
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: say about yoself Oh no, go ahead, we could. I

741
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: mean we could talk about yos. Did you see how

742
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 1: tight Joseph's button was on his shirt? I said, even

743
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 1: his buttons. Don't want to be a part of this situation.

744
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: They're like, give us free let's think he's wilding. Um nah,

745
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: but you know, actually I've given him enough enough attention.

746
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: Uh so, y'all will move on to the next thing.

747
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 1: Who was I cool in the house? Um? I was

748
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: cool quite a few guys, to be honest, I was

749
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: cool with was cool with Demark, DeMars. My guy was

750
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: cool with easy Ivan, um chasing. Uh Jordan, See, I

751
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: actually really really connected with him a lot. He's his glasses, right, Yeah,

752
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: he's glasses. Yeah. Yeah. The guy that kind of looked

753
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: like Shamar Moore but not really bro, not really, he's

754
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 1: gonna be yea yeah. I mean don't don't don't gas him, okay,

755
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: because he wasn't Shamar, but he was. I mean he was.

756
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 1: He was y'all were attractive and had careers. That is

757
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: not a normal combination we see. I mean, people are

758
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: giving your your group, the group of men, the title

759
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: of the best cast we've ever seen. I mean, there

760
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 1: weren't fake jobs. You guys, like like you're sitting in

761
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 1: your office right now, you know what I mean, Like

762
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: you're still at work. Oh, keep going. Sorry, I was

763
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 1: just gonna say no, I appreciate that, you know, I

764
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: appreciate the love you know that we got and people

765
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 1: saying that, you know, we were the best class uh

766
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 1: group of guys and the I don't know, class years

767
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 1: or whatever you want to call us, and we were professional.

768
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,720
Speaker 1: Um yeah, I like to be a part of something

769
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 1: like that. I'm glad that, Um, you know, we could

770
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: represent Bachelor nation uh in that way. I'm glad I

771
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 1: was a part of this first class of exceptional guys

772
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 1: or whatever people are calling us. I don't know. I'm

773
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: glad I could just be a part of it. Um.

774
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: I do take you know, my profession seriously. Um. But

775
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 1: then also, I'm like white too. Let me get out here,

776
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: has some fun and let me do my thing. I'm

777
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: not just all business. I know I seemed like I

778
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: was all business on the show. But I had a

779
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: lot of fun on the show too, Okay a lot.

780
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 1: I cracked a lot of jokes, you know what I mean,

781
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 1: Like you just didn't get to see that side of me,

782
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: which is cool. Obviously. I was just gonna say obviously

783
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: that there are more conversations, you know, that take place.

784
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 1: It's only a two hour show, So how good was

785
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 1: it to be able to experience the bad Shorrette. And

786
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 1: obviously it was a much different experience this season because

787
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: you couldn't travel, you were stuck at Laquinta. But how

788
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 1: good was it to be able to get out of

789
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: work and this normal life and this sad, scary, uncertain

790
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: pandemic and quarantine and be able to say, like, I'm

791
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 1: gonna live at this beautiful resort in Palm Springs for

792
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 1: hopefully two months. We had a bunch of hopefully cool dudes,

793
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: and just be able to take place in something as

794
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,919
Speaker 1: unique as The Bad Shorrette. Listen, I was hype about

795
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: the experience as soon as I found out. You know,

796
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: I could go, um, just to be able to be unplugged,

797
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,399
Speaker 1: you know, from the world. My emails not going off,

798
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: my phone's not going like, okay, I can keep all

799
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: of that. I don't want any of that. Let me

800
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: just unplugged for a second. No clients, no bosses, none

801
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: of that. Let's just go and I can focus on

802
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: finding the family. I mean, that's that's I love that,

803
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: everything about that. Um And yeah, that's really it's good.

804
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,240
Speaker 1: So this then leads me into my next question, because

805
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: you know, every year we have a good old thing

806
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 1: called Paradise happening? Would you ever grace us with your

807
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: presence on the beaches of Paradise? Oh, listen, I like

808
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 1: the beach. Okay, I like the beach. Uh, it's something

809
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: I would consider. Uh, you know why not. Um, I'm

810
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 1: still single. I still need a wife, still want you know,

811
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: my two daughters. Uh. And I ain't gonna get him

812
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 1: by myself. So the beach is open. Let's least we

813
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: can start talking about that. You know, I think it'd

814
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: be a good chance for you to show the other

815
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: side because it's it's not as heavy and as intense.

816
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 1: It's more and like Becca and I, we've never been

817
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: to Paradise in that way. But it's like for my

818
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 1: friends who've gone and then have been successful in their

819
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 1: own relationships. They're after they talk about the ease that

820
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: there is in Paradise. Of course, there's always a drama,

821
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: but you seem to do so well in avoiding drama.

822
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: With everything that was going on from Claire's season in

823
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: Cutatious season, how is it that you were able to

824
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 1: stay out of all the drama because I knew what

825
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 1: I wanted to be honest, at the end of the day,

826
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: I was like listen. I'm just I'm only here to

827
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 1: find a wife. I mean, all of the other nonsense

828
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: that you want to go back and forward, that's fine.

829
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: I only like to speak, you know, if we only

830
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 1: need to speak, if I had something to value, value

831
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 1: to say. Otherwise I can shut the hell up, because

832
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 1: what's the point of me talking to y'all? And I'm

833
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 1: not here for y'all. I don't care about that. But

834
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 1: you know, when Tasia comes in in the room, okay,

835
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 1: now it's not for me to talk. Now it's time

836
00:42:58,320 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 1: for me to open up or you know, make her

837
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: laugh for do whatever I gotta do bringer you know,

838
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 1: one week anniversary case or something like that, like whatever.

839
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, with the rest of the drama, you know,

840
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: giving people mustache socks and all of that, I'm like, ass,

841
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 1: I don't care about it. Seems like such a simple concept,

842
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 1: but somehow every season, some sucker salt falls for all

843
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: of this. It happens. Well, So I want to piggyback

844
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: off of Rachel's question because obviously we did see you

845
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,720
Speaker 1: stay out of the drama, but when you did insert yourself,

846
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: you just seemed to carry yourself with such grace and

847
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: elegance and you. This is more of a selfish question

848
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: for me too, because I could take some notes from you,

849
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: but you just remained so calm and eloquent even in

850
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 1: these very emotionally charged, intense, heated situations. So how did

851
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: you find that balance and how did you know? Okay, like,

852
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 1: now it's my time to speak up, But I don't

853
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: want to cross a line where I become, you know,

854
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 1: maybe more of a Bennett or I don't even want

855
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 1: to compary you, yes, because I don't even think that's possible.

856
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 1: But how did you still stay so calm and have

857
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: just such this like kind even demeanor through it all,

858
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 1: even when you were still having to address the men

859
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: and some of this drama. I think that is something

860
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: that I've just learned. Throughout the course of my life.

861
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: I've seen people be in situations and they start arguing.

862
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: They want to yell for whatever reason, they want to

863
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: yell and scream, and that's how they think they get

864
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: their point across. And actually it's the opposite. When you

865
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 1: start to yell, people stop listening to you. They can

866
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:37,720
Speaker 1: only hear you screaming, and sometimes it only instills fearing

867
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 1: the other person and they may do what you say

868
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 1: only because they're scared now because they want to in

869
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 1: the moment they get away from you, they're going to

870
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 1: do the opposite. And so for me, I was just like,

871
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: all right, I have to be able to have conversations

872
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 1: and arguments with people in a very calm matter. I

873
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: can be stern, but do it calmly so they understand

874
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: and they take in the things that you actually say. Um.

875
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: And that was what I wanted to get across when

876
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 1: I was on the show, and sometimes I had to

877
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: get a little bit, you know, more stern than what

878
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 1: I would have liked to. But hey, some of those

879
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 1: guys deserve it. I was like, yeah, yeah, Joseph, to

880
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,800
Speaker 1: hell with that guy. Listen, Yeah, I don't let him know.

881
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 1: So it was appropriate. At one point You're like, you

882
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,800
Speaker 1: don't speak for me. Oh, that's that's exactly what I

883
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: would have said. It was. It was very appropriate. Appropriate. Um, Riley,

884
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 1: why don't you care for Bennett? All right? You see? Okay?

885
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 1: Let me all right, let me put it this way. Um,

886
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: does that I don't care for a Bennette? I mean, listen,

887
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: I'm not just It's not that I don't have anything

888
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 1: against the man, but yeah, I mean you you saw

889
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: that America saw you see you can see uh, you

890
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 1: know his the way he talks down to people. I mean,

891
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:57,320
Speaker 1: he can be very condescending. Now, actually, um, Bennet, he

892
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 1: may have a situation where he actually doesn't know that

893
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: the way he talks to people is offensive. He may

894
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 1: actually truly believe that it's perfectly fine to talk to

895
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: people that way. Um, and he doesn't realize it's like

896
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 1: the impact, um, that I can have on you know,

897
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: other people, even though to him it seems fine, He's

898
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: just not. There is no I don't there's no empathy there.

899
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 1: And that's my thing. I'm like, if if you don't,

900
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 1: you don't have empathy, I can't, I can't. I can't

901
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 1: deal with you like you just seem like an ass.

902
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: And that's well Riley. There was a point in the

903
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 1: in the Mental Law where he says, I would challenge

904
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: anybody to say that I spoke to them in a

905
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: condescending way, and nobody raised their hands. But Damar could.

906
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: Let's see, this is where I'm an example, but example.

907
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 1: And Damar was like, well, you speak about younger people,

908
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 1: and I'm one of the younger guys. You can speak

909
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:01,800
Speaker 1: to me directly, but you talk about younger people. So

910
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,399
Speaker 1: so I tell you I didn't raise my hand, yes,

911
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 1: because Benny didn't come to me with that. That's what

912
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying. All right,

913
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: So listen, Um, you know my father, My father didn't

914
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: give a bunch of great advice, but he was right

915
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: about this. He was like, listen, people know who to

916
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 1: mess with. You come into a room and you see

917
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 1: a bunch of people and like, I can pick on

918
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 1: this guy, I can pick on this guy up. No,

919
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: only that guy along this guy, Like this is what

920
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: you do. And in those situations. Um, you know, not

921
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: that I'm trying to just act like you know, I'm

922
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 1: big buffin batter and I'm like that. No, but I

923
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 1: think I carried myself in a way where Benny was

924
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 1: liked rather not and I was like, yeah, I think

925
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 1: that was probably a wise call, and he just didn't

926
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 1: come at me with it. So I didn't raise my hand. Um,

927
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 1: but you know I did have things to say, uh

928
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,720
Speaker 1: to Bennett. Um, you know at the mental all about

929
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 1: you know, the way he behaved himself. And I'm not scared,

930
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: not even said on the show you know, Yeah, he's condescending,

931
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 1: but he just never came at me. So that's why

932
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 1: I didn't raise money. So very very honestly, I'm not

933
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 1: understand that. Yeah, I'm not one to go out looking

934
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,800
Speaker 1: for the smoke, but if you want the smoke, listen,

935
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 1: we can do this, that's all. So is it safe

936
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 1: to say we're never going to see you and Bennett

937
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:26,959
Speaker 1: like going to brunch in New York together anytime soon? K? Yeah,

938
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: all right, listen, I don't. I don't dislike Bennett, right,

939
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: I think I think, actually it would be a good

940
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: idea if we went and had brunch or something like

941
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: that to talk, because I actually want to find some

942
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 1: common ground with people. I think me and Bennett come

943
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:47,439
Speaker 1: from two totally different ends of the spectrum. When we're

944
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 1: talking about where we come from and how we grew

945
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:52,359
Speaker 1: up in our backgrounds and stuff like that, it would

946
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 1: be great to be able to discuss with Bennett, um,

947
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: just cultural things in life things. Um. So when we

948
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 1: do get a noose cityations, he'll know, you know that

949
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 1: you can't tell another grown man that they don't have

950
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:10,479
Speaker 1: three of the four whatever of emotional intelligence or something

951
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:12,879
Speaker 1: like that. And I mean even though you you might

952
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 1: actually believe they need to improve in those areas. Nobody

953
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: asked you for that, you know what I'm saying, Like,

954
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 1: that's is one of those things like if somebody offers that,

955
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: like hey, can you help me? All right? Cool, but

956
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:27,959
Speaker 1: nobody asked you for that, and you didn't think about

957
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 1: how Noah would take that, and like how everybody, like I,

958
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 1: how I would have took it. I would have been like, hey,

959
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on dog, that's not that's not how

960
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: I work. So yeah, I'm sorry, this might be a

961
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 1: little bit of a different demeanor than what I had,

962
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 1: you know on the Selle. I'm sorry. No, that's what

963
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: beautiful about podcasting, so do we That's it's a more

964
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 1: freeing space to just be you. And that's what our

965
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 1: listeners want, Like they want to get to know Riley.

966
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: They want to see the other side of you. They

967
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: want you to give us the inside scoop of what

968
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: was going down in the house and who you were

969
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 1: cool with. And I mean, do you feel like you

970
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 1: missed out on not being able to travel because we

971
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: went to both Becca and I. I didn't meet you,

972
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 1: but both Becca and I were at the Laquinta and yeah,

973
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 1: six days, there was enough for us. Let's just say that.

974
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah it was. It was one hundred and

975
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 1: twenty degrees some nights. Umm. But do I feel like

976
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 1: I missed out on traveling? Yeah? Um, not that. See

977
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't watch the show before, so I

978
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 1: didn't really know about all of the traveling and stuff

979
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 1: like that. But not everybody's been talking to me about it.

980
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, hell, yeah, I missed out. I want to

981
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,879
Speaker 1: go to I don't know Paris or wherever they would

982
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 1: have taken us. Um, so you don't know me and Becca.

983
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: You don't know us Na. Yeah you never so you

984
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 1: don't know we're former bachelorettes. You don't know anything about us.

985
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 1: We could have been whoever we wanted to be on

986
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 1: miss Becca, this is true? Well, well no, Um, I

987
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 1: didn't watch the I didn't watched the show. Why I did,

988
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 1: But I mean I met Becka when I was there,

989
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 1: so I knew she was going Brett because Tatius said it.

990
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 1: And then, um, I didn't know that you were a

991
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 1: former best Sarette because it was crazy big news when

992
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 1: they were like the first black woman Bastarette. And I

993
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 1: mean I wouldn't I know about that. I was like

994
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 1: paying attention to that. So yeah, I knew who you

995
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: were and all that type of stuff. And actually, um,

996
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: I was excited to meet you today because if I mean,

997
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 1: because I have friends like yo that Rachel have you? No,

998
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: I didn't know. Do I know? Yo? That's what I'm saying. Small,

999
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 1: like I feel like I'm two degrees of separation from everybody.

1000
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 1: I'm sure we have mutual friends. Yeah, I'm sure we

1001
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: probably do. Um, I don't think they know you though.

1002
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 1: They was just yo. They were like, Yo, do you

1003
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 1: mean to tell her what's up? So I'm like, all right, So,

1004
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 1: speaking of your friends, how has it been for them?

1005
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: Do you watch the show back with them with any

1006
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 1: friends or family? And how is it? Do like the

1007
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 1: Riley that they know? Like, how do you think watching

1008
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: you on the big screen? Oh my god? So I

1009
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 1: do watch it with um some friends of mine. But

1010
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: it's funny because I got a call from one of

1011
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: my close cousins and he was like, it's just insane

1012
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 1: watching you back because for one, like, I mean, I know,

1013
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:21,359
Speaker 1: like you like to have a good time and all

1014
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: this other type of stuff, but I've never seen you,

1015
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 1: you know, interact with a woman before, which they find hilarious.

1016
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: They knew I was a stern guy, but they didn't

1017
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,840
Speaker 1: know um. I guess they kind of knew I was

1018
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:37,320
Speaker 1: kind of up in your face a little bit like

1019
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 1: I couldn't be that way, but they were just they

1020
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: knew I was reserved, and so to see me on television,

1021
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,359
Speaker 1: They're like, that is completely out of your character. There's

1022
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: no way in hell that you go on to television

1023
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 1: show like this and start to open up and express

1024
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: yourself and really say anything at all, because that's not

1025
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 1: what you do. So it's it was a pretty big

1026
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:00,040
Speaker 1: shock to them, but they loved it. They laughed, and

1027
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 1: I got the roles I think from Claire, and they

1028
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 1: just had a ball. They were like, look at you,

1029
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 1: what are you talking about boys? The man? You're too

1030
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 1: young for that anyway, And I'm like, I mean I

1031
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 1: like boys de mand um and then you know, the

1032
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 1: tatia um, the whole thing. They was just like, um

1033
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: from my day, absolutely leaptatia um, but just the way,

1034
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 1: like you know, I carried myself and that um and

1035
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 1: opened up to her and talked about my family. They

1036
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 1: were like, it took you. I haven't told you know

1037
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 1: a lot of people about you know, my name change

1038
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, and the people that do know,

1039
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,800
Speaker 1: they're like, it took you years to tell me that,

1040
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So the fact that you

1041
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 1: were able to overcome whatever you overcame and tell the

1042
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 1: totatia for what it must mean that you had strong

1043
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: feelings for um um. And two we can tell like

1044
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: they gave me compliments on how I was growing as

1045
00:53:58,040 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 1: a person, and I'm just like, I appreciate That's what

1046
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 1: I appreciated about the show. We allowed me, um, you know,

1047
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:07,720
Speaker 1: to see a side of myself that I did not expect,

1048
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 1: you know, to be able to reach, especially in such

1049
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 1: a short period of time. It was just a few months.

1050
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 1: M Well, I mean it was. We always joke about

1051
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 1: this that, like you, it really is therapeutic too, because

1052
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 1: you're always in itms and you're talking about your feelings

1053
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 1: and you're just in a way that you never have before,

1054
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: and it really is a beautiful thing. And then the

1055
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 1: show is and you got all these feelings and you're like,

1056
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:33,839
Speaker 1: who do I talk to? And your friends at home

1057
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 1: don't understand. You're like, look like, let's just talk about it,

1058
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,399
Speaker 1: And so you see a lot of people get into

1059
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 1: relationships after the show because they're just so open and

1060
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: ready to like meet someone and talk about how they feel.

1061
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you'll see it. You'll start seeing it happen

1062
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 1: with the men. And I will say, it's very it's

1063
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 1: it's obviously difficult and very uncomfortable at first. I don't

1064
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: think anyone's used to opening up that quickly to a partner,

1065
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 1: let alone all of America. If you will, But but

1066
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 1: I will say this, it will only set you up

1067
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 1: for excess and success. Oh my god, what would I

1068
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 1: just say making up worts? We will only set you

1069
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 1: up for success for future relationships wherever that may be,

1070
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 1: if you find it on your own, walking down the

1071
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 1: street or in paradise. Who knows, um, but Riley, we

1072
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 1: have one more question. But it's been such a pleasure

1073
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 1: to watch you and to have you on and to

1074
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 1: just pick your brain a little bit more to get

1075
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 1: a whole new side of Riley that that America should

1076
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:36,240
Speaker 1: should be listening to. So before you had, we asked

1077
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 1: all of our guests this, what was your rose and

1078
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 1: thorn of the season? So yeah, my high point actually

1079
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 1: would be the fact that I was able to open

1080
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 1: up and express myself and Tatia was she allowed me

1081
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 1: to do that develop um, you know, strong enough connection

1082
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 1: with her and she made me feel comfortable enough to

1083
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:57,399
Speaker 1: open up and tell her things. That was definitely, uh,

1084
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 1: you know, the roles. But then also, um, the great

1085
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 1: guys you meet you know there too, and the fun

1086
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: that you have with them. Uh. Like I said earlier,

1087
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 1: it's a two hour show, you know, so you don't

1088
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 1: really get to see the conversations that you get to have,

1089
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 1: you know, with some of the guys. And I'm actually yo.

1090
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 1: I didn't say this earlier because I was asking me

1091
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 1: who I'm cool with. I gotta say, as much as

1092
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 1: you like Bennett, No, it's my guy. Probably. Thank you

1093
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 1: so much for joining us on the show. It's been

1094
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 1: so great to get to know. No. We No, I

1095
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 1: was on No it was on last week and he

1096
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 1: was delightful. I will say he did win Rachel a

1097
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 1: little bit. He's a good dude, he is. He got

1098
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 1: caught up in a bad situation and you know, um,

1099
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:50,880
Speaker 1: we have the mustache. How we complaining the mustache? I

1100
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 1: actually have to ask you this. Let's let's put this

1101
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 1: question somewhere in. Okay, so obviously before you came on

1102
00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:00,080
Speaker 1: like I'm creeping, or we can call it research on

1103
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 1: your your socials and stuff. Um, One, you have a

1104
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 1: Baltimore accident? Has you been ever accent? Has anybody ever

1105
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 1: told you that a Baltimore accent? The way you say

1106
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 1: too very Baltimore? Wait too too? Two? Two, he's got

1107
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 1: to say it in a sentence. He's got to say,

1108
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 1: Eric Bigger has a Baltimore accident. I keep saying if

1109
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 1: I say I'm going to the store. No, no it's not.

1110
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 1: There's what you can when you're when you're comfortable talking. Okay,

1111
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:36,919
Speaker 1: So in doing research, Um, you follow on Instagram one

1112
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 1: of the girls. It's going to be on Matt James's susan.

1113
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: How do you know Chelsea? How do I know Chelsea?

1114
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: How do I know Chelsea? Um? How the hell do

1115
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 1: I know Chelsea? New York is small New York? Did

1116
00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 1: you dater? No? I didn't dater? Um hell no, I

1117
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 1: need to google one. One. Chelsea's the fashion model, the

1118
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 1: runway model. Oh yeah right, yeah that I g not

1119
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: like her friend like, yeah, we like her. It could

1120
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 1: have been because when this was I have no idea,

1121
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to figure out how small New York

1122
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 1: really is, you know, like I was hoping some dating

1123
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 1: history there, but no, not at all, not even a

1124
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 1: little bit. I don't even It's probably just somebody I

1125
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 1: follow because I don't even think I know her, like

1126
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know her like nowhere now her

1127
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 1: I didn't know because she'll be on Matt James this season.

1128
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 1: So I don't let me pull up a photo. This

1129
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 1: is Chelsea. Can you see that? Okay, yeah, no, yeah, okay, yeah,

1130
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 1: I've seen her on that same on that same lineup.

1131
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 1: I've gone through like Matt's um things I've seen on

1132
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 1: that same month. Okay, I'm for a second, I don't

1133
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 1: know like that try start. Fact that you piece that

1134
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 1: together is crazy to me, because you know what's when

1135
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 1: I look at who he follows, she's like one of

1136
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 1: the first people that pops up. So I was like, oh,

1137
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 1: I was like she loot was familiar. She looks like

1138
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 1: we just went through the girl's bios And I was like, oh, okay, sorry,

1139
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 1: I was trying to make something. I was trying to

1140
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: get something popping that wasn't. But you still have to

1141
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 1: give us your thorn. Oh my thorn. Okay, what my

1142
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 1: thorn and it can be you know when you had

1143
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 1: to give the orgasm sound for a minute in the

1144
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 1: loud speaker whatever. M Actually I like that. That didn't

1145
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 1: we didn't see that, but I was like, I was

1146
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 1: cool with that. I was different. So that was a

1147
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 1: whole lot different. Um. I thought it was funny. Um,

1148
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 1: that was one of like the fun things that I

1149
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 1: was able to do. You wish never a good team together? Yeah, yeah,

1150
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 1: it was dope. Um. But actually, I mean it's probably

1151
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 1: something probably something with Yosa me having to get into Yosam,

1152
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That was definitely not a

1153
00:59:57,720 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 1: high point for me. I didn't want to have to

1154
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 1: U show that type of emotion. Um, you know, get

1155
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 1: a little steaming like that with him real quick. But

1156
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 1: he wanted to smoke. You needed it, so that's when

1157
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 1: we were Riley. It has been such a pleasure having

1158
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 1: you on. Like I said, you were one of our

1159
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 1: favorites from the very beginning, so it's good to finally

1160
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 1: have you on. You're in a safe, comfortable space. Obviously

1161
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 1: the listeners want to hear from you in your perspective,

1162
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 1: and I also am going to be taking notes on

1163
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 1: how to be more cool, calm and collected from here

1164
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 1: on out. After speaking with you, Oh you got this.

1165
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 1: I appreciate you all having me. It was good to

1166
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 1: see you again, Beck, Rachel was very nice to meet you.

1167
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 1: You'll tell all my people back at home like, yo,

1168
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 1: I finally met Rachel. Of course I love Listen, please

1169
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 1: do when when all this is over with, We hope

1170
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 1: to meet you on the other side of it. Seriously,

1171
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 1: you're great. Rachel's just trying to get out to New

1172
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 1: York and brunch with you and Bennett. Yes, but I'm

1173
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 1: New York on the regular, and because of COVID, you know, like,

1174
01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:02,439
Speaker 1: I haven't been able to come. So it's all good. Beef.

1175
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 1: I can come to LA. But hey, there's no beef

1176
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 1: with me and Bennett all right out there, there's little

1177
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:12,919
Speaker 1: beef weena, weena. But thank you so much. We're gonna

1178
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 1: let you get back to work. You got a brief emotion,

1179
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 1: something something to do. Don't remind me what a sweetheart

1180
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 1: he was. You were right, Becca, you said it from

1181
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 1: the moment you met him. He was one of your favorites.

1182
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 1: I was. I wasn't slow to get there, but I

1183
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 1: just was like he didn't stand out, you know, because

1184
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 1: he because the drama was standing out. But as the

1185
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 1: men started to go away, it was like, man, I

1186
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 1: really liked this Riley, and I was going to compliment

1187
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 1: him on choosing the name Riley since he chose his

1188
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 1: name was like, good choice. I like the name y. Yeah,

1189
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 1: he okay. So as we had him on the more,

1190
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 1: I'm thinking because and he's talked about this with Tasha

1191
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 1: on the show, how he wants his two girls, he's

1192
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 1: gonna make a phenomenal father hashtag girl dad. Like he's

1193
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 1: he just his demeanor like he I don't there's just

1194
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 1: something about him, and I wanted to tell him this,

1195
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 1: and I didn't want it to seem like it's not

1196
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 1: a compliment, because it is. But he's just not like TV,

1197
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 1: you know. And I kind of think it's refreshing that

1198
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 1: he went on and was like, yeah, I'm just gonna

1199
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 1: give this a shot. I might not be the most outspoken, loud, crazy, dramatic,

1200
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 1: in your face type of man. Yeah, but he overall,

1201
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 1: I think he was like the steadiness that I think

1202
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 1: any Bouchelotte probably could have used on a season. Yeah,

1203
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 1: I wish he would have gone farther. I think there.

1204
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 1: I won't name names, but I like him more than

1205
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 1: some of the men that are left for sure, and

1206
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 1: I think, oh, he could be really good and challenge

1207
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 1: Tatia and also be like that rock for her and

1208
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 1: as you was in that calming force for her. And yeah, ladies,

1209
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 1: he's single, so make sure you know you you slid

1210
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 1: up in those dms. Yes, or maybe we'll see him

1211
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 1: on the beaches of Paradise. I don't make him the Bachelor.

1212
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 1: I don't want him to see it. But if he's

1213
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 1: on Paradise, please give him a good woman, like let

1214
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:13,960
Speaker 1: him find a woman first woman on the beach and

1215
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 1: then he connect with and leave them alone, Like now

1216
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 1: I want you to protect Riley, leave Riley alone. Yeah,

1217
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 1: it's always great having all these guys on. I will

1218
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 1: say this, though, Rachel. Is it just me or does

1219
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 1: this season seem like it's just drigging on and on

1220
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 1: and like never ending, never ending? Yes, Becca, I share

1221
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 1: your sentiments. I mean, like, one of the reasons I

1222
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 1: love ro Housewives is because it's only an hour. I'd

1223
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 1: be willing to go to Change dot org and start

1224
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 1: the petition to make the Bachelor it was Monday and

1225
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:48,440
Speaker 1: Tuesday's one hour each, just like, can we spread it out?

1226
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 1: You know? S alot? Yeah, speaking of ending, it has

1227
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:57,920
Speaker 1: come for today, but only for today because we have

1228
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 1: back to back episode, so we will be back again tomorrow.

1229
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 1: Oh okay, you guys, we only have three more episodes

1230
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 1: this season, including one that airs tonight. We also have

1231
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 1: a brand new episode of Bachelor Happy Hour out tomorrow morning,

1232
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 1: and you will not want to miss our guest exactly.

1233
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 1: It's a good one, so please tune in. And if

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01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 1: you don't know where to find us on social by

1235
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 1: now let me help you out. On Instagram, you can

1236
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 1: find us at Bachelor Happy Hour and then at Batch

1237
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:29,440
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1238
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