1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks. Ten takeaways from Week twelve 2 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:10,959 Speaker 1: with Daniel Jeremiah, Bucky Brooks and Rhet Lewis. What's up, everybody, 3 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to Move the Sticks, presented by Zaxby's d J. 4 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: Bucky Rett. Back with you here for the takeaway episode 5 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: and Uh, guys, an interesting week of football. I think 6 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 1: if you were to look into the future, maybe from 7 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: the beginning of twenty nineteen, and looked at what took 8 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: place in the National Football League this week, I don't 9 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: know if we had believed it. Oh, absolutely, we never 10 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: would see some of the things that we're seeing. A 11 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: practice squad quarterback who hasn't played a snap, it starts 12 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: the game in Denver, some many other things that we've 13 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: seen with all the COVID situations. Yeah, I don't think 14 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 1: twenty is something that we've ever seen, nor we will 15 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: ever see you again. And Uh. In more positive news, 16 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: I still got a whole pumpkin pie in the fridge 17 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: left over, so I'm great chuck over here, guys man, 18 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: I've been grazing on this ham for far too long, 19 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: and I gotta get that thing out of the fridge. Rador. 20 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: That's not a good set up there, all right, let's 21 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: jump let's jump in and get cranking here. Up, Bucky, 22 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: you got the first takeaway, what do you got? The 23 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: Browns grinded out. Mayfield takes you play action fact to Hunt. 24 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:15,199 Speaker 1: He crows end zone open Hooper, touchdown, standard Hooper, Baker 25 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: lading right in the bread bash, get there and ducking, 26 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: and the Browns are not having any trouble getting open 27 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: in the end zone. That's just connecting. You know, when 28 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: I look at this Cleveland Browns team, I gotta really 29 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: tip my cap to uh Kevin Stefanski and what he's 30 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: been able to do, particularly with this offense. This offense 31 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 1: is an old school slobber knocker type offense. They run 32 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: the football. They head over two hundred yards against the 33 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars thirty three attempts. Nick Chubb had a hundred yards, 34 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt chipped in about sixty. And what they're able 35 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: to do is they able to control the game with 36 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: their rushing attack. Baker Mayfield was fine, did a good 37 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: job of hitting some passes. He is still not the 38 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: high level, consistent player that you want to see. But 39 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: because they're able to run the ball and really dictate 40 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: the terms, they really set up easy opportunities for him 41 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:02,559 Speaker 1: and passing game. This is a hard out for most teams, 42 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: and as they get down the stretch, this is gonna 43 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: be a very, very difficult team to knock out when 44 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: they get to the postseason tournament. Yeah. I found it 45 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: kind of crazy that Baker Mayfield hadn't thrown a touchdown 46 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: passed since Week seven, but was able to get one 47 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: of Jarvis Landry early in this game, who hadn't caught 48 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: a touchdown passing his last ten games, longest scoring draft 49 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 1: of his career. I think it was helpful to get 50 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: even even though it wasn't a dominant part of the 51 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: offense obviously still relied on Kareem Hunt and was notably 52 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: on Nick Chubb. I think it was important for this 53 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: stretch run to kind of get that passing game amped 54 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 1: up a little bit after three straight weeks with their 55 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:40,839 Speaker 1: bye week kind of lodged in between there of having 56 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: to deal with bad weather conditions and forced to kind 57 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: of muddy up the game and kind of play a 58 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: ground and pound type of attack and proving that they 59 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 1: can do that. But I think he also want to 60 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: kind of get some of that rhythm in the passing 61 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: game kind of started back up again as you enter 62 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: the final quarter of the season. Uh. And then of 63 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: course that we find out after the game, know DJ 64 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: Dave Calledwell fired as a general manager in Jacksonville. Kind 65 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: of interesting to see that piece of it go first 66 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 1: before the head coach. Sounds like Doug Marone might finish 67 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: out this season. So obviously another a bit of a 68 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: rebuild coming in Jacksonville. Yeah, a couple of things here. 69 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: One on the brown side, Um, this is gonna be 70 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: their first non losing season since two thousand seven when 71 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: I was there. Uh, but that was the think about 72 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: that. That That was Derrick Anderson and Braylon Edwards and Kellen Winslow. Uh, 73 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: that group, So that it's been a long time here. 74 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: So congratulates to the Browns. They're on their way heading 75 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: towards a winning season here and they've got a formula, 76 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: as Bucky reference, that's working for them. Uh. Then we'll 77 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: flip it over the Jacks. You mentioned it, Dave called Well. 78 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: In full disclosure, me and Dave called have been buddies 79 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: and friends for gosh twenty years. Bucky and I have 80 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: known Dave forever. So Um, you never want to see 81 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: somebody that you know, um, you know, and you know 82 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: about their family. You never want to see him lose 83 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: their job. But I'll say this about Dave. I know, 84 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: I know the wins weren't there. Um yeah, this special 85 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: season where they got to the a f C Championship game. 86 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: Outside that, I get out of criticism with the record, 87 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: But what he has done is he's cleaned things up 88 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: and he's set the table for whoever comes behind him, 89 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: because they've got some really good young players and you 90 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: first feel like James Robinson, they've got two first rounders 91 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: coming up. So you've got and you've got to think 92 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: the most cap money of anybody the leak like a 93 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 1: hunter million bucks. So they've got some good young players, 94 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 1: they've got extra picks, and they've got lots of money. 95 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: And I know, I'm sure when he made some of 96 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: those moves and had to get rid of some of 97 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: those veterans like Calais Campbell, that he he kind of 98 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 1: saw where this was heading. Um, but this is, uh, 99 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: this is something he's done that I think the next 100 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 1: group is gonna benefit from. They're gonna have a nice 101 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: foundation to build off of. And Buck, as we sit 102 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 1: right here, I'll give you the final thought on this one, 103 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: because you you cover this team, you played there. Um 104 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 1: to me, if they can get the quarterback position figured out, 105 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: you know, with the potentially the number two overall pick, 106 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: this thing could turn pretty quickly. Yeah, I think you 107 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 1: cancer and pretty quickly, DJ, And you're right like having 108 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: played there and have an affinity for Jacksonville. When I 109 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 1: think about this job, DJ, I think it's a great job. 110 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: I think it's a great job because you have a 111 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: lot of things in place. Ownership is patient, you have 112 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 1: a ton of draft picks, two first rounds in next 113 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: year's draft, you have all kinds of salary cap space. 114 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: And this franchise is located right in the middle of 115 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,799 Speaker 1: SEC country. So we talked about the best players playing 116 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: in the SEC. There's no reason why you can't just 117 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 1: stay in your neighborhood and found a bunch of good 118 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: players to really change and reverse the fortunes of the franchise. Well, look, 119 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: and I'm just the last word I'll say is Dave 120 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: Caldwell drafted some really talented players. They were just unable 121 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: to keep them all on that roster, and they're out 122 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: there making plays for other teams right now. That there's 123 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: still some young talent there for sure. As you mentioned, Bucky, 124 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: be excited to see what direction the Jaguars go in 125 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: the future. I'll keep it moving here. I'll need to 126 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: take away edition of this Move the six podcast with 127 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: our second takeaway, and that is that the Niners Bloody, 128 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 1: the Rams and Muney lest where they checked with me 129 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:52,919 Speaker 1: at the line. They have a bunch for mentioning of 130 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: the Ryde Cooper comflict, he gaging works behind the play action, 131 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: Henderson Junior pressure God bettercept that bunch of bad kid 132 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: running back chime touchdown, Fred just go touchdown? Pick sax 133 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 1: right baby Jane, Jane. I mean very proud of the call. 134 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 1: Apparently the San Francisco forty Hunters just won the Super Bowl, 135 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 1: uh Like, it was exciting. It was a big play 136 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: and going back to the which is probably you know, 137 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: odds on favor for the most creative tagline that we've 138 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: had all season. You know, it wasn't necessarily that the 139 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 1: forty Niners out physical the Rams or anything like that. 140 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: It was just it was too good to pass up 141 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: that kind of a play on words in the in 142 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 1: the tagline there. So I just want to make sure 143 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: I got that in a little word. That's a little wright. 144 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: I'll just I'll just stick with then Dalvin was cooking, 145 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: all right, So let me get back to uh, we 146 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: get back to the Niners here for a second. Um, 147 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: they're not swear the Rams in back to back seasons. Okay, 148 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: they've won both games this year, they won both games 149 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: last year. They've had the Rams number. Um here, Now 150 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: in the Rams defense played pretty well there obviously limited 151 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: the forty Niners in the run game, held them under 152 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: forty yards and carry. But this was all about turnovers 153 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: and in a game that was actually pretty statistically even 154 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: on both sides offensively, I think probably because you got 155 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: both coaching staffs that know each other, so dang well, 156 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: that's not that much of a surprise. The turnovers were amplified, 157 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: Jared Goff's performance was amplified, and Sean McVeigh didn't shy 158 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: away from it after the game, saying, our quarterback has 159 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: got to take better care of the football. And so 160 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: now here we sit with a couple of clunkers from 161 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: golf this season with the Rams sitting you know, at 162 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: seven and four, their second place in the West. But 163 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: there's just one game that separates them from the Cardinals 164 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: in third place in two games, that now separate them 165 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: from the forty niners in last place. So things are 166 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: getting a little bit uneasy, z, I would say when 167 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: it comes to this Rams offense and we're their position 168 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: moving forward here. But yeah, now I think it's an 169 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: interesting thing. I think as I look at the Rams 170 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: this year, they are a team that requires their offensive 171 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: play called Sean McVeigh to be on his game each 172 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: and every week. The quarterback doesn't have the ability to 173 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: bail him out when the plays aren't necessarily correct against 174 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: the defense. And with Jared Golf turning the ball over sometimes, 175 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: he's a bit of a double agent working for both teams. 176 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: And so if I'm Sean McVeigh, I really have to 177 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: look at the way that we go about our business. 178 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: We may need to lean a little more into the 179 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: running game and a little less into Jerry Golf having 180 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: to throw the ball all over the yard. All right, Buck, 181 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: you ready for a stat I'll get some other thoughts 182 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: on this game, but i'll send I sent this to 183 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 1: Red a little bit earlier, but see if this surprises you. 184 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: Think about the Golf and Wentz conversation, we've had, right, 185 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 1: and Wentz has been terrible this year, and everybody wants 186 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: to bench Wentz and he's got to be put out 187 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: the past year, he's no good. If you look at 188 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen and put those two seasons together, Wentz has 189 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: forty one touchdowns, one picks, fifteen fumbles. Jared Goff has 190 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 1: thirty eight touchdowns, twenty six picks and twelve fumbles. So 191 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: Wentz has thirty six turnovers the last two years. Jared 192 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: Goff has thirty eight. But I feel like we don't 193 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: ever even contemplate the fact that he's not playing that well. 194 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: And and I just think when you look at the 195 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: support system with Sean McVeigh as your play caller, with 196 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: with the consistent cast of receivers that can uncover, I 197 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 1: know the division they plan is much better than than 198 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 1: what Carson Wentz is playing. And Carson Wentz is not 199 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: the same guy this year as he was last year. 200 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 1: There's definitely he's pretty broken down. You've got to fix him. 201 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: But I think the fact that perception is these two 202 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 1: guys are on different planets is it's not accurate when 203 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: you look at the numbers. Yeah, isn't expectation thing to 204 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: like consider if you go back to the seventeen season 205 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: for Carson Wentz, I mean, we all thought he was 206 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: gonna be the eventual league MVP. So like we've got 207 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: this bar up here for WinCE where we're well, golf 208 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 1: played well in the Super Bowl season, like he was 209 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: never in that kind of conversation. Well, Buck, do you 210 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: think he's a let's do the truck trailer thing real 211 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: quick on these two guys, because I know Wentz and 212 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: if you look at it as Wentz goes kind of 213 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 1: the Eagles have gone. I think I've seen Wentz b 214 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: the truck to pull the Eagles behind him. He did 215 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 1: it last year with all the injuries they had with 216 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: Greg Ward is your number one wide receiver, and kind 217 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: of pulled them into the playoffs. And i've seen him obviously, 218 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: he's been a bad trailer this year. I mean, he 219 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: hasn't done anything this year. He's been terrible. But I 220 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: don't know if I've ever had those moments where I've 221 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: thought that Jared Goff was ever that truck. I think 222 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: he's almost always kind of been a little bit more 223 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,079 Speaker 1: dependent on what's around him. He's had some high moments, 224 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: but I've never got the sense he was kind of 225 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: pulling that team. What about you, Buck? You know, DJ 226 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: is funny that you said this, and I said this 227 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: when Jared Goff was coming out and I liked him. 228 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: I was into Jerry golf Camp. I believe he's Matt Ryan. 229 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: I believe Jerry Goff is exactly the same as Matt 230 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,199 Speaker 1: Ryan in terms of being depended upon the supporting cast 231 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 1: and the play caller. And we talked about these car 232 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 1: backs and we can break them up because they're a 233 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: handful of special ones that are generational talents that don't 234 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: need everything around him. But Jared Golf, much like Matt Ryan, 235 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 1: they need all of the pieces in place, and they 236 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:14,079 Speaker 1: need the right play caller to mask the deficiencies. And 237 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: I think that stat that you bring up, it speaks 238 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: volumes about just perception. Philadelphia is like a market where 239 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: as big as Loud as Voicterous in l A, Jered 240 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 1: Golf is able to kind of fly under the radar. 241 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: But now that you're saying that those guys are playing 242 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: basically at the same level, it does kind of bringing 243 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 1: up questions, why don't we criticize and critique Jared Golf 244 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: more for its underachievement as the QB one for the Rams. So, um, 245 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: let me see here. I don't know if you guys 246 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: can can see this, but this is essentially Jared Goff. 247 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: He is the truck. He is the truck and the 248 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: trailer all in one, because you know what I mean, Like, 249 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: we've seen him lead the Rams passing attack to great 250 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: heights and explosive plays and big time performances, and then 251 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 1: we've seen them win in spite of his efforts as 252 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: well due to the coaching staff and due to the 253 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: run game at time, especially with Todd Gurley was there, 254 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: and the defense now this year. So I just I 255 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: don't know which way he is. I just feel like 256 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: he's the hybrid. He's kind of both. He's that in 257 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: between land nice. That's nice. That's nice. Work on the 258 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: fly there ret to find that image up to you. 259 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:27,959 Speaker 1: The other thing I would just add you you mentioned 260 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: it Red. These teams know each other extremely well. Richard Sherman. 261 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 1: When you watch the tape on the two interceptions, he's 262 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: literally running the route for the wide receiver. He peels 263 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: off one on the first interception, he just completely just 264 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: lets his man go down the field because He's just 265 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: got his eyes in the backfield reading golf and knows 266 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 1: exactly where the ball is going, knows there's no chance 267 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: he's going to be threatened vertically on that, so he 268 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: just wheel turns buck makes a pick on the one 269 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: to kin law that he's lined up. He's got the 270 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,199 Speaker 1: I think it's who was it the sorry Robert Woods 271 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: was lined up inside and he had just as split. 272 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: And once he had just as split, it was like 273 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: Richard Sherman knew exactly what was coming on the over route. 274 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: He's already run inside of him to try and beat 275 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: him to the spot on the over route. And they've 276 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: got over under coverage on all three levels of that route. 277 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: So uh, they dialed in. I think they really feel 278 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: like they're able to shrink the field against golf in 279 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: this offense, that they're not threatened at all vertically, and 280 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 1: it becomes a little more challenging from the Rams. So 281 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: going forward for the Rams', I still think their their 282 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: defense has been dominant. There's a lot left there for them, 283 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 1: but they're gonna have to start stretching the field a 284 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: little bit. They're gonna have to stretch this thing out, 285 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 1: loosen it up a little bit. Yeah, what do you 286 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: got here? Buck? It's funny that you brought their part up, 287 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: So I think DJ, you're Europe the right number here 288 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: too much, Tyreek. See, that's a simple headline right checking 289 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: in forward for the Chiefs. Mahomes snap at his belt, 290 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: works the right boundary, Tyreek Hall over the shoulder, touchdown, 291 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: Kansas City, and the wonderful game for Tyreek Hill. It's 292 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: one a yard reception, perfectly throwing football over the shoulder 293 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: of the cheetah who's putting on a clinic in front 294 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: of a national audience. Yeah, I'm because Rhett did such 295 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: a good job of using props one myself here. Um, 296 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put this as the sign that you need 297 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: to have up when you have a single coverage with 298 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill. You you need to post this sign and 299 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: you need to post it up there and just say 300 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: help wanted here because you do not want to be 301 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: stuck out there on an island. That's where they were, Buck. 302 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: They did. It was some empty sub formation things, but 303 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: they were in a lot of man free in this game. 304 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: And I'm like, man, you're gonna play man free against him? 305 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: You get what you deserve because all Mahomes has to 306 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: do is just hold the safety for hold the middle 307 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: fielder for account, and once he can hold him for account, 308 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: you've got one on one with Tyreek Hill. It's it's 309 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: it's a suicide mission. You've got no shot of slowing 310 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: him down in that spot. Carlton Davis, I felt bad 311 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: for him. It wasn't his fault. No, it wasn't as fault. 312 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: Here's a few things. I talked to a defensive coordinator, 313 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: former defensive coordinator about what the Bucks have been doing 314 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: defensively all season. He said, look, Todd Bowl is doing 315 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: a great job of bringing pressure to master the issues 316 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: in the back end. However, they are susceptible to getting 317 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: gout if you can block them. And the game fund 318 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: that they came in where they decided they want to 319 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: go one on one with Tyreek Hill, I felt like 320 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: it was a bad game plan. I feel like at 321 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: some point you can't lead the two best players had 322 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: the biggest impact on the game. Patrick Mahomes is always 323 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: going to get his, but you cannot let Tyreek Hill 324 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: go crazy two in a quarter. You just can't do it. 325 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I've never seen someone that we know is 326 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: the number one option have that kind of performance in 327 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: the first quarter, it's crazy. Well, you know, I thought 328 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: it was. I thought it was more interesting because, well, well, 329 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill has had a really good season, I mean 330 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: a solid season. He hadn't had a hundred yard game 331 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: until Week nine. He's only had three this season, including 332 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: the two sixty nine yards that he had here against Tampa. So, like, 333 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm kind of curious as to why they 334 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: chose this route when some teams have obviously opted to 335 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: go a different way with I re kill and it's 336 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: kind of proven that while he might get his four 337 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: or five catches, might find his way into the end zone, 338 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: he's not gonna blow up and get blow up a game, 339 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: wreck a game like he did like this with you know, 340 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: three touchdowns and all the explosive play. So teams have 341 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: kind of figured out now that that hasn't allowed them 342 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: to necessarily stop or beat the Chiefs. But at least 343 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: you don't have Tyree Hill running wild all over the 344 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: place here. Not a winning formula to me, Look, it's 345 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: keep the ball in front of you. It might not 346 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: be a sexy game plan, and and and we've said it. 347 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: I feel like we've said this forever we're talking about 348 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: on the podcast, which is moving between the twenties, conceded. 349 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: We're going to concede that that's happening. You're going to 350 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: move the ball between the twenties, and you are not 351 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: going to allow the ball to sail over our head. 352 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: You can't let the ball sail over your head like that. 353 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: You've got enough shot, um. But I mean, I feel 354 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: like we beat a dead horse on that one buck. 355 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: We can we can move on there. I think enough 356 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: spin said, what do you got for the next one? 357 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: The Titans pound the Indianapolis could easy pick up for 358 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: first down on the zone throw quick count, Tannehill scringch 359 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: it out right side Henry to the Tan to the 360 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 1: five to the end, Nights Down Titans. Derek Henry catches 361 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: for the first time in you know, the Tennessee Titans 362 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: are this team that they slowly but surely get better 363 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: and better as the season goes on. Part of that 364 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 1: is due to their playing style. They're leaning on the 365 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: big back and I just feel like Derrick Henry is 366 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,439 Speaker 1: the body puncher in boxing. He just kind of wears 367 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 1: you down, he beats you up, and then in the 368 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 1: eleventh round, you just tend to fall apart. And when 369 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: I look at the way that they were able to 370 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: run the ball, he had a hundred and forty yards 371 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 1: in the first half. They had a hundred and seventy 372 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 1: three rushing yards in the first half. Derrick Fanry finishes 373 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 1: with twenty seven over a hundred and seven yards. But 374 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: this offense, which is really simplistic when you look at 375 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: it's almost like playing a videogo is run play action, 376 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 1: run play action. And if they're able to stay on script, 377 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: it is really really difficult to deal with the Tennessee 378 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: Times because they can wear you out with just the 379 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 1: the in the Yeah, you know, I went back to 380 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: the Week ten game because I wanted to see I mean, like, 381 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: the Colts won in Nashville just three weeks ago. You know, 382 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: it looked like they belonged in a matchup of these 383 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: A f C contenders, And while Derrick Henry had over 384 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: a hundred yards, he didn't feel like he dominated that game. 385 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: Colts end up winning it, and so you come back 386 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: to this one, You're like, what was the difference. Well, 387 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: no deforced Buckner in this game for the Colts. No 388 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 1: Diniko Autry in this game. For the Colts, so they 389 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,719 Speaker 1: were missing some beef up front on the interior, and 390 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: clearly that had an effect. But Derrick Henry, I I 391 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 1: you know, if the forced Buckner's there, yeah, maybe he 392 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: does make a big difference. But I think if Henry 393 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,239 Speaker 1: goes crazy like you did in this one, even with 394 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 1: the Colts at full strength, I don't think that surprises 395 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: anybody to me here. It certainly feels like the Titans 396 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 1: are rounding into postseason form and are pushing themselves kind 397 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 1: of into that top tier conversation with the Chiefs and 398 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: with the Steelers right now in the a f C, 399 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: and kind of separating themselves a little bit from let's say, 400 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: the Bills, the Colts, of Browns, the Dolphins and the 401 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:05,360 Speaker 1: rest of those kind of wildcard fringe teams. Right now, 402 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: they are on the verge of that upper echelon. Of course, 403 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 1: we've seen that they can make that push in the 404 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: postseason after last year. But this was an impressive victory 405 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,239 Speaker 1: here in Week twelve for Tennessee. A couple of things 406 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: Bucky talked about body blows. I don't even think that's 407 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: just within a game. You think about a season. This 408 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: team is built for when you get through a long season. Man, 409 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: you're a linebacker and you've been playing for twelve weeks. 410 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: That's not something you want to do. It's not like 411 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: hitting Derrick Henry in Week one or week two like that. 412 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: That gets old real quick once you get down to 413 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 1: the latter portion of the season. The other thing is 414 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 1: that first meeting Buck. We called that game um for 415 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 1: for Amazon. That was a Thursday night game, and the 416 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: special teams were terrible. That was when they were down 417 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 1: their punter for Tennessee and that what the long snapper 418 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 1: I think was that was a total mess for them 419 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: special teams wise. So obviously they're able to get that 420 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: cleaned up a little bit. I'm not worried about the 421 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 1: Colts going forward. Those are big pieces they were missing. 422 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 1: They get them back. I think it's still a dangerous 423 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 1: team in the postseason. So I think we learned about 424 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 1: both those teams. But I think both those teams are 425 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: teams you wouldn't want to play in January. All right, 426 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: what's the next takeaway here? Ritt? All right, I'll get 427 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: us to number five, Ladies and gentlemen, The Giants are 428 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: a playoff team. Always. The strength of this team, it's 429 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: been a problem talent back to throw, He's gonna get 430 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: the ball is loose, don't recovered by the Giants in 431 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: the thirty eight yard line. Japaul Sheer got the second, 432 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: Leonard Williams covered it up. Defense saves today. Leonard Williams 433 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 1: recovered the fumble, but I think Japaul shared the one 434 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: who punched it out. Fourth turnover by the Bengals today, 435 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 1: the Giants are gonna win it. Well, that's just like, hey, 436 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: you know, look good for you, Bob, Papa and the 437 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: Giants radio crew man. They haven't had a whole lot 438 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: to get excited about in Giants Land the last few years, 439 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: much less this season. But here the Giants on a 440 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: three game win streak. Here they finally beat somebody outside 441 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 1: of the NFC East, even though it's the Bengals playing 442 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 1: without Joe Burrowed, but still the four wins. Right now 443 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 1: they are leading the NFC East in the way things 444 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: are going like the with the rest of the schedule here, 445 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: I don't see a reason why they can't finish there 446 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,479 Speaker 1: now Here in the other caveats, Daniel Jones hurt in 447 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: this game, U with the hamstring injury, trying to come back, 448 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 1: and clearly this is more than just a little tweak 449 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: and that was something that severely limited his ability to 450 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: throw the football. And speaking from some real handstring pull experience, 451 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: as in pulling it on the morning workout of the 452 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 1: first two a day and four or five training camps 453 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 1: in college, and that that hamstring looks like it's gonna 454 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 1: keep him out for at least one week here, So Ken, 455 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: the Giants would stand a Colt McCoy game if they 456 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 1: have to start him in place the injured Daniel Jones. 457 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: But my guests would be yes, because their defense guys 458 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: playing really well. And I guess I get it. It 459 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: was this is Brandon Allen making the start for Joe 460 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 1: Burrow and short notice and all that. But still the 461 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 1: Giants defense has allowed twenty or fewer points in three 462 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: straight games. They are getting after it. Their front has 463 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: been impressive. He served, then Williams call, they got a 464 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: lot to be excited about on defense right now. You know, 465 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 1: Red is funny because DJ and I have watched the 466 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 1: Giants when we call the game on Thursday night, and 467 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: we both said, like, there's something to be said for 468 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: a team that plays hard and is connected and for 469 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: whatever reason this Giants team has been able to overcome 470 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: some of their talent deficiencies with just what I call 471 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: sweat equity. They just get after it. And defensively, Patrick 472 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: Graham has done a really good job of getting these 473 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: guys to just play hard and play on the string. Defensively, 474 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 1: they don't let the ball flow over the head. They're 475 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 1: big and physical upfront and they just kind of wear 476 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 1: you down with their size and physicality. And for the 477 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: rest of the teams in the NFC East to have 478 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 1: to deal with the Giants, they do a great job 479 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: of letting you beat yourself. They're going to be a 480 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: difficult team to knock out. I'm not seeing they're gonna 481 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: do any damage in the postseason, but this is a 482 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: team that is good enough to win the East, and 483 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: I think we're seeing them. Yeah, it's gonna be interesting 484 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: to watch this division um over the next really the 485 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 1: next decade, because if you look at it with Daniel 486 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 1: Jones and they're gonna get se Kwon Barkley back next year, 487 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: you know that's gonna be a group that can kind 488 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: of grow together with this young, exciting defense. To have 489 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: se Kwon back out there with Daniel Jones. I know 490 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is not perfect, but his athletic ability, I 491 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 1: think they're finding ways to feature that a little bit more. 492 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 1: Um then you look at at Washington and what they've 493 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 1: been able to do. That is an exciting young running 494 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 1: back that they've got there. Uh So to me, when 495 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:22,880 Speaker 1: you look at what they've done, they need to find 496 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: the quarterback. Maybe that comes in next year's draft. Do 497 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: you look at Dak Prescott coming back from injury next year? 498 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 1: But then you've got Zeke who looks like he's on 499 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: a total downturn here, uh with what we've seen from him. 500 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 1: And then and then the last one you've got left 501 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: is with with Wentz. We don't know what's gonna happen 502 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: with them, as bad as he's played this year, but 503 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 1: you've got a big time back there and Miles Sanders. 504 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: So with Antonio Gibson and Washington and uh, you look 505 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: at se Kwan coming back and smiles Sanders. I mean, 506 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: this is a it's an interesting quarterback running back division. 507 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: As we kind of forecast this thing out a little bit, DJ, 508 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: it is very very interesting to watch this play out. 509 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: And you talk about the Giants and also the Washington 510 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: football team. Those are the two teams to me that 511 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: seem like they're well positioned to really make a move 512 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: going forward, to try and put a vice script on 513 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: this division and the common denominator for both teams. They 514 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,360 Speaker 1: have solid defenses that are chalked full of first rounders 515 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage. I think that matters. I 516 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 1: think I think there's a five dollar fine for me 517 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 1: because I think I used the R word there. Uh, 518 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: five dollar fine, habits die Harden apologies. Let's let's keep 519 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: it moving here with takeaway number six, and that is uh, 520 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: this is how it's done. It's very simple. The Bills 521 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 1: find balance on offense. Okay, Forest, second and goal from 522 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: the three, Gabriel Davis and Colpasy to the right side 523 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 1: the snap. Gosh, Allen keeps it himself, gonna try to 524 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: run to the corner of the end zone. He dives 525 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 1: in and easy in. Yes, touchdown Buffalo Josh Allen on 526 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: three run. Hey, he got called for hunting. He spun 527 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,919 Speaker 1: the football on that touchdown right at the feet of 528 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: Michael Davis, who tried to get the angle on him. 529 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 1: He said, you didn't gonna run me down. I think 530 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 1: Davis said sometimes he spun that boom and Davis just 531 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 1: got out run to the corner. Yeah, I think I 532 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 1: said the same thing on that call, which was, you know, 533 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: it's pretty impressive when your quarterback beats the corner to 534 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: the pylon, and that's what Josh Allen did on that one. 535 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:11,479 Speaker 1: But that was a difference in the game. You look 536 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: at the statistics in this game and watching it, the 537 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: Chargers won the turnover battle three to one. Um you 538 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 1: don't often see a team lose a game when they're 539 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 1: plus two in the turnover margin. Passing wise, they were 540 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: about the same. You look at their ability to get 541 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: pressure about the same the differences. They rushed for almost 542 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:27,959 Speaker 1: a hundre more yards in Buffalo, So you look at 543 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: that ground game and it was a combination. Zack Moss 544 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: popped a couple Singletary had a good game, but Josh 545 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: Allen and and Buck using Josh Allen on on on 546 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: some design quarterback runs and it was a lot of draws, 547 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: which I love as a quarterback because now you've got 548 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,880 Speaker 1: a lead blocker with your back because you can let 549 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: the defense expand take your three steps but your foot 550 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 1: in the ground and it's just basically like a follow, 551 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: you just following the back right up in there. They 552 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: had a lot of success. I think three or four 553 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 1: third down conversions with Josh Allen on design quarterback runs. 554 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: You know, I think what we've seen in this league, 555 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 1: all play callers aren't created equal. And with Josh Allen 556 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: and some of the other athletic quarterbacks that are making 557 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: their way and having success in the league, you're seeing 558 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,400 Speaker 1: how play callers are able to really shift what they 559 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: like to do to really elevate the play of their quarterback. 560 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,199 Speaker 1: And when I look at Josh Allen and what the 561 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills do. They know that Josh Allen has some limitations, 562 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: but each and every week they tap into some creative 563 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: ways really put him in a position to take advantage 564 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: of his skills as an athlete. I like the way 565 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: this team is trending, even though I don't believe they're 566 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: playing their best ball. I think they're playing just well 567 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: enough to give themselves a chance to lead the division 568 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,640 Speaker 1: until it clicks. And if it clicks late in December, 569 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 1: this is a team that has a chance to win 570 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 1: a couple of games in the postseason. Let's just give 571 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: some good news bad news here for the Chargers who 572 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: fall in another close one. Um, Joey Bosa absolute was 573 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: the best player on the field in this game. I 574 00:26:55,520 --> 00:27:00,360 Speaker 1: mean absolutely wasn't even one man wrecking for I see 575 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:01,919 Speaker 1: why they didn't want Josh Allen to drop back and 576 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: throw it thirty times in this game, because he might 577 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: not have finished it. Um for the Chargers. I mean, 578 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 1: they didn't blow a lead this time, which I guess 579 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 1: again is also positive, but they also surely squandered an 580 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: opportunity to make out the deficit. We're talking about five 581 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 1: fourth quarter possessions, three points. In those five possessions, the 582 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 1: Bills give it to them on three straight possessions. They 583 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: turn it over on three straight possessions in the fourth quarter, 584 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 1: and you come away with three points. The final wasn't 585 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,679 Speaker 1: like they didn't move the ball. Yeah, I know, I know. 586 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: The final sequence, though, was certainly a tough watch, and 587 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: and that's kind of the way I felt about Chargers 588 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,679 Speaker 1: football for the majority of the season. It's been a 589 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,199 Speaker 1: tough watch. So I gotta figure out a way to 590 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 1: win some of these games, man, Yeah, no doubt, it's 591 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: been a tough watch. But I think when you look 592 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: at overall, Herbert goes over three d yards again. You 593 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: know you've got that guy Ford Austin Ekeler look good 594 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 1: coming back, getting him back in the lineup. And I'll 595 00:27:58,240 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 1: leave you the final thought here on this game, which 596 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: is Joey bosas dominant as he was Joey bosaive years 597 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: young as I'm gonna jump right into it. I'm on 598 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 1: the seventh one and the Patriots continue to find a 599 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: way to kick her. Wait till the stackers stands, Cardona 600 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 1: will stap at back. Bailey turns to Cardona, the staff 601 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: his place, swinging the right like kick drivel to the 602 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: up flights to kick. There's good it done it again, 603 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 1: his second game winner of the season, and the Patriots 604 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 1: prevailed the over Arizona find twenty to seventeen finals. You know, 605 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 1: I know it is horror for these long time Patriots 606 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: fans to watch the way this team plays and to 607 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: find a level of satisfaction after watching Tom Brady threw 608 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: it all over the yard. But this is a team 609 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: that is at his best when it plays ugly. They 610 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: only had look a fewer than two hundred yards of 611 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 1: total offense, but offense defense special teams gave him an 612 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: opportunity to knock off a team that was playing pretty 613 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: well in the NFC West. And so here we are 614 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: the Patriots sitting at five and sit they have a 615 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: chance to sneak into the playoffs because they played three 616 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: division games down the stretch. I'm not saying that this 617 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: team is going, but I'm saying they can make it very, 618 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: very difficult for teams that are viing for a playoff 619 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: bid because they can muddy up the waters with they're 620 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: playing stut Yeah. You know, look, I just think the 621 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: defense kind of stood up um and now for the 622 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: second time in three weeks, the defense is kind of 623 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: stood tall. They had the clunker last week against the Texans, 624 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: but the prior week, you know, they find a way 625 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: to dispatch of the Ravens, and then here they are 626 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: against you know, one of the most difficult offenses to 627 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: deal with because of what Kyler Murray can present to you. 628 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: And you give him season lows for Murray in total 629 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: yards and in passer rating and no passing touchdowns in 630 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: this one. If you go out there and tell me 631 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: that DeAndre Hopkins is only gonna catch five balls from 632 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: fifty five yards, I'm gonna sign up for that every 633 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: single week, no questions asked, and Patriots win it somehow 634 00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: with Cam Newton's career lows in both passing yards in fascerrating. Look, 635 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: it's not a formula that I don't think we're gonna 636 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: see duplicated in the playoffs this year. I'm not sure 637 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: that Patriots are gonna end up there. So but for 638 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: right now, it worked in this week. It worked the 639 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: only in fifty one players ended up winning this game. 640 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: I'm just watching this though, I don't know they won 641 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: the game, and Bucky talked about find a way to 642 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: win ugly and they'll get some guys back next year 643 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: that that opted out. But I'm looking at this team 644 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: that had been, you know, an unbelievable run of double 645 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: digit win seasons and division titles, and I feel like 646 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: when you look at the roster and you look at 647 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: the quarterback play that they're getting right now, the way 648 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to play this is this team could 649 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: find itself smirred in that that no man's land, which 650 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 1: is that seven to nine win territory, which they could 651 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: be in the foreseeable future. They're gonna have to get 652 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: better there, Buck, I mean, I know they're winning ugly 653 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: here and that's the admired him for that. But in 654 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 1: the long term, they need they're gonna need more than 655 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: what they have right now, and particularly at the quarterback position. Well, 656 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: absolutely they to get more out of Cam Newton. And 657 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: so as they evaluate this team going forward, I think 658 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: it's really a complete overall DJ. I can see them 659 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 1: making a move to really try and play like the 660 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans or the Cleveland Browns, where they just try 661 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: and grind it out until they find that right quarterback, 662 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: because you're right, they are going to end up in 663 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: no man's land. They're not going to be in play 664 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: for one of the top quarterbacks in the class. And 665 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: then do you settle on the mediocre quarterback maybe in 666 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: the middle of the first round that may not be 667 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 1: good enough to take you to the next level. And 668 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: so this is a complete change. And I think one 669 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: of the things that we also have to talk about 670 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: with the Pages and some of their struggles when you 671 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 1: look at their coaching staff, their coaching staff has been depleted. 672 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick has a lot of newbies just trying to 673 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: find their way in their respective roles. One of those 674 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: is his sons Steve Belichick being the defensive coordinator. It's 675 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: hard when you have so much change and you don't 676 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 1: have overwhelming talent to break in new coaches all over 677 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: the board. Well, um, Matt Patricia is available if they 678 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: want to bring in an extra, you know, the Electra 679 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 1: help on details. I mean, look, it's not unprecedented. We've 680 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: seen it happen before. Remember when McDaniels got fired. Josh 681 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: McDaniels and the Broncos, Right, they bring him back onto 682 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: the staff of the Super Bowl. They can bring Bill 683 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: O'Brien back to right, the whole crew back. Um. Look, 684 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: I mean anyway, that's just a part of what I'm 685 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 1: sure you guys are gonna get into here later this week, 686 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 1: as we've seen a couple more coaching vacancies now come out. 687 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 1: So all right, I'll think it's to the next takeaway 688 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: here at number eight, and that the Panthers lose, but 689 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: gains for the future are clear. Cook on the handoff 690 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: from Cousins and it's taken away by Chin, but I 691 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: think a whistle head sounded. Chin grabbed it out of 692 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: the pile and took it into the end zone. The 693 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: Panthers sideline is celebrating like there was no whistle. That's 694 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: gonna be a Carolina Panther touchdown. Back to back Jeremy 695 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: Chin touchdown. Unbelievable. Has that ever happened in back to 696 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 1: back place? Well, I don't even know what I'm looking at. Right, 697 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: that's NFL history in some former fashion. I mean, where 698 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: was the Javon kim Law interception return? I mean, we're 699 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: talking about NFL history here, and which is kind of fun. 700 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 1: I mean, like, let's be excited about that sequence, you know, 701 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 1: just in the framework of this game, but let's also 702 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: be excited about, you know, the young talent on this 703 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 1: Panthers roser, particularly on defense, where we talked about another 704 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: kind of unprecedented type of situation where they draft all 705 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 1: defensive players, exclusively defensive players this last year. And look, 706 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: I don't know that we've seen the full potential that 707 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: the Panthers have expected, that we as the kind of 708 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 1: evaluators expected from Derek Brown just yet their first round pick. 709 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: But man, is Jeremy chinman an impact. I mean, he 710 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: leads him in tackles weekend week out. He leads all 711 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 1: rookie defenders in tackles. Then he has those two touchdowns. 712 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: He starting to see a little bit more from you 713 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: Tor Grossmatos as well once he's gotten healthy. There's there 714 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: and then Troit Pride has played well at corner at times. 715 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 1: So I mean like there's you know, like this is 716 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,760 Speaker 1: not gonna be a you know, a big time season 717 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,840 Speaker 1: when it comes to win loss record, but when you 718 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,760 Speaker 1: talk about stacking some things up in terms of momentum 719 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: to the future, be feeling pretty good for this Matt 720 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 1: Real coach team here in Carolina. Yeah, you should feel 721 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: good because I think the division is going to come 722 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 1: back to them. When you look at the age at 723 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 1: quarterback in Tampa Bay and in New Orleans and even 724 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: with the Atlanta Falcons, those teams are going to come 725 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: back to the pack. And as the Carolina Panthers continue 726 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 1: to invest in the young guys, particularly on defense, that 727 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 1: will give them a chance. And this has to be 728 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 1: a heartbreaking with them because this is a very, very 729 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: winnable game. They had an opportunity to put the game away. 730 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 1: They had to set a fourth field goal, gave the 731 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 1: Vikings a chance to get back, and so we'll see. 732 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 1: For the Vikings, I think you're encouraged that Kirk Cousins 733 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 1: was able to come up with a game winning drive. 734 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,280 Speaker 1: You saw some players emerge and make some things happen 735 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 1: after Damon Cook went out for a little bit with 736 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 1: an injury, and so, I mean, I think this is 737 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: something that is positive for both teams. Minnesota gets to win. 738 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 1: The Carolina Panthers are encouraged because they're young guys are 739 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: certainly stepping up and playing well. All right, Buck, what 740 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 1: are the I want to I want to try and 741 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: piggyback here off the Panthers. We look at Matt Rule. 742 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 1: I know the winds haven't been there, but by all 743 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,320 Speaker 1: accounts has been very impressive what he's been able to 744 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 1: get out of this young team. And I think there's 745 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: with the openings we already have, you're starting to see 746 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: some college names being mentioned. Our buddy Bruce Felman has 747 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:25,839 Speaker 1: an article on The Athletic you can check that out 748 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:27,280 Speaker 1: where he has a list of a lot of candidates 749 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 1: for the Michigan job. But I think you'll see some 750 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,439 Speaker 1: of those same names are gonna be names are gonna 751 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: be mentioned for some of these NFL openings. When you 752 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,919 Speaker 1: look at Matt Rule and uh and what he's done 753 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: their culture wise kind of change that thing around in Carolina. 754 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,919 Speaker 1: So I've got three names I like here that kind 755 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: of fit the Matt Rule profile from coaches. Buck, I'll 756 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: hit you up on this and Rehet you can follow 757 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 1: up and add in anybody you might be missing there. 758 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,240 Speaker 1: Who give me three names, But give me three college 759 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 1: coaches you think could have a Matt Rule type impact 760 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,840 Speaker 1: on an NFL team. It's funny, DJ, because one of 761 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 1: these guys is hanging out there. He's not coaching right now, 762 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 1: but I was say three guys that I think about. 763 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 1: I think about Urban Meyer, I think about Brian Kelly, 764 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 1: and then look, I like what mc campwell has done, 765 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: so I'm gonna throw him in there. The reason the 766 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 1: first two guys to me are there, they've built a 767 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: program from a macro level and they just understand it. 768 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: And because they have so many years of experience in 769 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 1: terms of building programs, they know exactly what they wanted 770 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 1: to look like. They're able to convey that message. And 771 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 1: then talking to both of those guys, Irban May and 772 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,919 Speaker 1: Brian Kelly, respectfully, I absolutely believe that they could figure 773 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 1: the NFL thing out and have success. Yeah, I think 774 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 1: that's a good one. I think Uh, you know, Campbell 775 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,839 Speaker 1: is gonna be a hot commodity for let's say, if 776 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: Texas comes open, if the long Horns decide to dispatch, 777 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 1: if Tom Herman, Um, you know, like I think he'll be, 778 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: you know, a hot, hot candidate in the coaching circle 779 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 1: in the college drinks. I don't I don't know are 780 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 1: we there yet in the NFL where he's getting that 781 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,320 Speaker 1: kind of look. Um, I don't know if if Lincoln 782 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 1: Riley is in that rule type of it might be 783 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 1: more along the Cliff Kingsbury type of modeled, but still, 784 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 1: you know a guy that Um, I think he's very 785 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 1: happy from what we've kind of all understood at Oklahoma, 786 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 1: but it would be another interesting one to consider at 787 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 1: some point down the line. Yeah, I mean I've I've 788 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:13,839 Speaker 1: looked at it in the three names that I put 789 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 1: down there, Um, and we talked about Matt Campbell, but 790 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,400 Speaker 1: I think Matt Campbell doing what he did at Toledo 791 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 1: before he even got to uh to Iowa, stated a 792 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,840 Speaker 1: phenomenal job there. They were very good football team and 793 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,919 Speaker 1: actually when you look at that staff that he had 794 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 1: on there, had a phenomenal coaching staff around him. So 795 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 1: he's shown the ability to a couple of different stops 796 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 1: to not only be a builder of program, but you 797 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 1: gotta coach to coaches too, and be able to identify 798 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 1: good coaches. He's been able to fill out good coaching staff. 799 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 1: So Matt Campbell Um, Luke Fickle at Cincinnati, I think 800 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,320 Speaker 1: the connection with him and Vrabel being very Him and 801 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,359 Speaker 1: Vrabel apparently like best buddies, so best friends, and there's 802 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 1: a lot of similarities there. He's had a chance to 803 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 1: learn under somebody like Urban Meyer. Obviously the success he's 804 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 1: had their top ten program at Cincinnati. I think Matt rule, 805 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,840 Speaker 1: that discipline, that toughness. You get some of that same 806 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 1: vibe with Vrabel. You get some of that same vibe 807 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,879 Speaker 1: with Luke Fickle. Uh. Pat Fitzgerald. I know he's always 808 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 1: everybody says he'll never leave Northwestern UM. But I think again, discipline, toughness, 809 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 1: I think he as a former player who have the 810 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 1: respect of the locker room. I think there's some interesting names. 811 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,279 Speaker 1: I actually, when I look around the NFL, buck I 812 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 1: find more interesting names that intrigue me on the college 813 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 1: level than I that I might even and what we 814 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,439 Speaker 1: have available at the coordinator level level, at the NFL. 815 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 1: I want a guy that's actually been a head coach. Yeah, DJ, 816 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 1: it's funny. It's funny that you bring that up, right, 817 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 1: and so because I'm gonna throw a one more name 818 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 1: out there, and I know for whatever reason, like it's 819 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,479 Speaker 1: it's not working at Michigan. But I wouldn't discount Jim 820 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 1: Harbaugh coming back to the National Football League and have 821 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 1: his success, even though we're seeing like this Michigan king 822 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 1: kind of teeter. I like the fact that he was 823 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 1: at U s D, he was at Stanford, he did 824 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,839 Speaker 1: it at San Francisco. He has had a ton of time. 825 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 1: What I will say, Jim Harbor is gonna have to 826 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 1: tighten up on the details when he gets his next opportunity, 827 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,280 Speaker 1: because I think what we're seeing, the lack of attention 828 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,359 Speaker 1: to detail has kind of caused his program twee road. 829 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 1: But I do believe the resume of success will lead 830 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,839 Speaker 1: him to have success in the National Football League in 831 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 1: the right situation. In a situation might be right there 832 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 1: in Detroit. Yeah, that's an interesting one, interesting one there 833 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,400 Speaker 1: to stay in Detroit. I think Robert Salery seen his 834 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,279 Speaker 1: name mentioned a lot when Troy to somebody who's from 835 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,400 Speaker 1: that area as well. All right, let's let's keep it 836 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 1: going here. We got two takeaways left. My last takeaway 837 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,440 Speaker 1: is going to be a Sunday night football takeaway, which 838 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be full, fully honest here in the full disclosure. 839 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 1: I don't remember what it was, So let's roll the 840 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 1: clip and i'll tell you afterwards. From the Chicago Ah 841 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 1: Jeans snipped to Drabsky in a tight pocket, he says, 842 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:41,280 Speaker 1: picked up by Christy Smith, Pete to the ends down, 843 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 1: Darious Smith with the sacking strip, trust to Stip with 844 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:53,719 Speaker 1: the scoop and scar and the Packers league three. Yeah, 845 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 1: now it comes back to me that was. I just 846 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 1: need to jog my memory a little bit with that. 847 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 1: And that's the Bears needed offensive overhaul. See that's a 848 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:05,759 Speaker 1: very efficient line there. Reet offensive overhaul goes. Uh. Look, 849 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,279 Speaker 1: I just I had written down s n F tv D, 850 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,799 Speaker 1: but it was uh, I got there. I eventually got there. 851 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,399 Speaker 1: This is a team offensive line wise. Uh man, it's 852 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,479 Speaker 1: three maybe four new starters for the Bears going forward. 853 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 1: There's just not a lot to build around their upfront, 854 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,879 Speaker 1: so you gotta try and overhaul that group. I think 855 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 1: in the running back position especially get Tarik Cohen back, 856 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 1: they'll be okay. Dave Montgomery popped along win in this game, 857 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 1: so they have some backs there. Um, you're gonna have 858 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 1: to pay Allen Robinson going forward and keep him in 859 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,719 Speaker 1: the fold. I like mooning there are some pieces there, 860 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 1: But man, I think from a system standpoint and offensive 861 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,279 Speaker 1: line standpoint and finding you know the tight end. I 862 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 1: know with with what they did in free agency with 863 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,360 Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham, that's a short term deal. So to me, 864 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 1: it's all in front of you. Um, that needs to 865 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 1: be handled. And the elephant in the room obviously the 866 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 1: quarterbacks not on the roster. So are they gonna be 867 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 1: picking high enough to be able to get that guy? 868 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,920 Speaker 1: I look at the winds or look at the schedule here, Rhett, 869 00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,239 Speaker 1: I'll go to you on this one, but you look 870 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 1: at the schedule as well. I do. I'll see a 871 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 1: whole lot of wins left on the schedule for the Bears. Well, 872 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,319 Speaker 1: I mean, like you talk about Overaul, I mean like 873 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,359 Speaker 1: they they're gonna have three new quarterbacks next year, like 874 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,359 Speaker 1: no matter what. Like there then it maybe maybe more 875 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,959 Speaker 1: than that, you know what I mean, But they're gonna 876 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 1: this this I view it kind of like the Vikings 877 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,920 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago when Sam Bradford left, case 878 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,879 Speaker 1: Keenum left when they got the whole crew out of there, 879 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 1: and it was you know, and then they started over 880 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:25,880 Speaker 1: with Kirk Cousins. That's what it's gonna have to be 881 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,719 Speaker 1: like for the Bears because their quarterback for next year 882 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 1: is not on this roster. Um. If I'm looking at 883 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:34,239 Speaker 1: that schedule right now for the Chicago Bears Lions next 884 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,759 Speaker 1: I mean will be an opportunity. Um. The Texas have 885 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 1: been playing really good lately, so of the Vikings, Um 886 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,959 Speaker 1: and the Jags maybe, Look, they're not a playoff team 887 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:44,799 Speaker 1: and it's just a matter of what are they gonna 888 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:46,879 Speaker 1: do in the future. They'll get one more. They're gonna 889 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:48,480 Speaker 1: get one more win Buck there may six and ten 890 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 1: there for sure, I can get the one in Jacksonville. 891 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 1: I mean, you're talking about two teams. Um. You know, 892 00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 1: it's funny, like we talked about the elephant in the room, 893 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,319 Speaker 1: and I think we gonna have a deep dive on 894 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,920 Speaker 1: this on the podcast maybe the More or Thursday. The 895 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 1: Mitchell Drabinsky situation, to me is something that deserves a 896 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 1: case study because when you look at that draft and 897 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,319 Speaker 1: you look at the decision that the Bears made to 898 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,640 Speaker 1: move up to get Rabinsky, and you look at the 899 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 1: success that Deshaun Watson and Patrick Mahomes are having. I 900 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,399 Speaker 1: just think it deserves a deep dive as to why 901 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:29,320 Speaker 1: Mitchell Robinsky was viewed as the one when you compare 902 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,440 Speaker 1: his resume in college to those of Patrick Mahomes and 903 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,239 Speaker 1: Deshaun Wasson. I think when you make that mistake, and 904 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,840 Speaker 1: you make an egregious era like that, it just puts 905 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:42,000 Speaker 1: an albatross around your franchise, and if you don't move 906 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,239 Speaker 1: on from it quickly, it ends up eroding your franchise, 907 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:46,920 Speaker 1: as we were seeing with the Bears right now. Now, 908 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:48,920 Speaker 1: I think you can find, you know, attentially, because you 909 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 1: can make arguments on both sides of this, because I 910 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,440 Speaker 1: sat there and go, Okay, man, Dwayne Haskins, who hasn't 911 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,000 Speaker 1: worked out, really just had that one year of production, 912 00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,319 Speaker 1: Mitchell Robinsky one year starter hasn't worked out. But then 913 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 1: on the flip side, you look at Kyler Murray and 914 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 1: what Kyler Murray has been able to do in the 915 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,239 Speaker 1: success he's had as a one year guy, and you go, Okay, well, 916 00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,680 Speaker 1: then you've got man look, Justin Herbert played a lot 917 00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 1: of football. Patrick Mahomes played a lot of football. Those 918 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:11,839 Speaker 1: are a lot of throws, a lot of snaps. Those 919 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 1: guys have accumulated, I think. And what the crazy thing 920 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,279 Speaker 1: about those two is that the ceiling is so sky high. 921 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,440 Speaker 1: But I also think they came with higher floors because 922 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,560 Speaker 1: they just played a lot of football and throwing the 923 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,600 Speaker 1: ball a lot versus some of these guys that don't 924 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 1: have a lot, Which is gonna be interesting as we 925 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 1: get to the discussion going forward for this draft, because 926 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,319 Speaker 1: you've got a guy that I know, I really like. 927 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,560 Speaker 1: I know Bucky, you like him, Red, We've talked about 928 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,440 Speaker 1: him as well. But when you look at a quarterback 929 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 1: in North Dakota State who has really one year as 930 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:44,440 Speaker 1: a starter, you know, gotta you gotta talk about it. Oh, 931 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,600 Speaker 1: I think you absolutely have to talk about the DJ. 932 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,560 Speaker 1: I think when we compare these things and whenever we 933 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,840 Speaker 1: find out what that baseline number is, right, is different 934 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,600 Speaker 1: because these juniors are coming out and so how many years. 935 00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,320 Speaker 1: But I think you have to have maybe thirty five 936 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 1: thirty to thirty five starts so you can begin to 937 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,239 Speaker 1: kind of see what someone is in college. So you 938 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 1: can go around. But yes, the tray lance evaluation based 939 00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 1: on maybe some of the failures that we're seeing with 940 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,680 Speaker 1: the one year guys certainly is going to kind of 941 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:15,960 Speaker 1: cause us to pause a little bit when we think 942 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,080 Speaker 1: about him and what he could be at the next level. 943 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,000 Speaker 1: All right, what's the final one here? Buck? The Falcons 944 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:25,319 Speaker 1: rise up against the Raiders. Booker stays in the ball game. 945 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,399 Speaker 1: Here's car looking to throw again. Pressure coming come in skin, 946 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:32,880 Speaker 1: It's intercepted Dion Jones with a flag down and Jones 947 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,799 Speaker 1: he's going to the end zone and we'll see if 948 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:40,360 Speaker 1: it's in Atlanta touchdown interception for Dion Jones. What he 949 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:44,760 Speaker 1: does he scores toesdown. That is his eleventh career interception 950 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:49,279 Speaker 1: and his fifth touchdown. You know, I picked the tagline 951 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 1: because I thought the tagline was nice and creative, But 952 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,520 Speaker 1: really this game had nothing to do with the tagline. 953 00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 1: This game really had to do with the open Raiders 954 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 1: self and aflicted mistakes. When I look at it, before 955 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:03,960 Speaker 1: you can win a game, you have to know how 956 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:05,759 Speaker 1: not to lose it. And the thing that we talked 957 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,759 Speaker 1: about in terms of losing game avoid the negative plays. Well, 958 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,719 Speaker 1: I'm looking at this and I'm gonna read this five turnovers, 959 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,719 Speaker 1: eleven of these four hundred and forty one yards and 960 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:18,239 Speaker 1: five secs. All the negative things that you don't want 961 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,960 Speaker 1: to happen, they happen for the Las Vegas Raiders. So 962 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,760 Speaker 1: as much as the Falcons were able to raise their level, 963 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:28,239 Speaker 1: the Las Vegas Raiders gifted the Falcons that win because 964 00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:29,920 Speaker 1: they didn't play veryvery well and they didn't take care 965 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:34,319 Speaker 1: of the football. So here's a couple of things. Um, 966 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,080 Speaker 1: just on the Falcons here, because you mentioned that the 967 00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,960 Speaker 1: Raiders the turnovers, that was absolutely the turning point of 968 00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,200 Speaker 1: this game. It was the reason why they lost this game. 969 00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,239 Speaker 1: They couldn't figure it out on offense. But for the Falcons, 970 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:50,600 Speaker 1: who have long been plagued by the pass rush, right, 971 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,799 Speaker 1: they've been trying to find the pass for us. They've 972 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,239 Speaker 1: spent high draft capital on it in the past. So, 973 00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:56,960 Speaker 1: like I want to ask you, like some of these 974 00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,359 Speaker 1: names that you associate with the Falcons attempt to pass 975 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,680 Speaker 1: for us. Right. You go back to Vic Beasley, he 976 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 1: did it for a year, but he's no longer with 977 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,640 Speaker 1: the team. Tach McKinley had a decent year. I think 978 00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 1: it was like two two years three years ago now 979 00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,480 Speaker 1: and no longer with the team. Dante Fowler has played 980 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:16,120 Speaker 1: well this year for them. But like, those are big, 981 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,680 Speaker 1: big names, right, Well tell you who got sacks this 982 00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:23,800 Speaker 1: week for the Falcons. Stephen Means Jacob Twoyot Mariner, Foya 983 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:30,120 Speaker 1: Sane Aluikhan, John Kaminski, Tyler Davison, and Jalen Hawkins. So, 984 00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,640 Speaker 1: I mean it just kind of showed, you know what 985 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:36,160 Speaker 1: I mean, that you can find I guess that sack 986 00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,359 Speaker 1: production out there. Now, look, this is just one game. 987 00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:42,080 Speaker 1: It's not a consistent pass rous situation here, but they 988 00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,080 Speaker 1: got it done. Foya Sane Aluikon, by the way, sixth 989 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,440 Speaker 1: round pick in the eighteen draft, has proven to be 990 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,960 Speaker 1: a real player this year. He's a he's a like 991 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,760 Speaker 1: a Peanut Tillman kind of punch it out, strip stripped 992 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,120 Speaker 1: the ball out kind of guy. But um, it's just 993 00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,640 Speaker 1: it's kind of funny to me how that sometimes the 994 00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,920 Speaker 1: big names don't always get it done, and here we 995 00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,279 Speaker 1: saw that in this game. Yeah, the irony is you 996 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,200 Speaker 1: look at the Raiders team, who's been trying to find 997 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,840 Speaker 1: a pass to compliment Max Crosby, who was not the 998 00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,319 Speaker 1: first round pick there, who has been clearly he is 999 00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,920 Speaker 1: their pass rush. So that's something they're gonna have to 1000 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:12,839 Speaker 1: find going forward. That's on there to do list there 1001 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,400 Speaker 1: in the off season. Last thing here as we finished 1002 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:20,799 Speaker 1: up the ten takeaways. UM, sorry about your quarterback getting hurt, 1003 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:22,840 Speaker 1: but there is some good news and that I have 1004 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,040 Speaker 1: this helmet sent to me from from app State, which 1005 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,200 Speaker 1: is easily the prettiest helmet in the history of college football. 1006 00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,040 Speaker 1: You guys, don't think you guys gonna wear that in 1007 00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:32,600 Speaker 1: the New Orleans Bowl again for the sixth straight year. 1008 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,960 Speaker 1: Uh we might, we might. We have a good week 1009 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,120 Speaker 1: down there. We get some good jumbo, We get some 1010 00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,840 Speaker 1: some gumbo down there, We get a little uh yeah, 1011 00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:42,839 Speaker 1: it's good. We like, we like our time down there. 1012 00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,040 Speaker 1: I don't know why you would discourage a bowl game 1013 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:48,680 Speaker 1: in the city where you grew up. I just find it, 1014 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,480 Speaker 1: find it interesting. I'll call you from Glendale, Arizona when 1015 00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,719 Speaker 1: I used playing in the Fiesta A right, nice, nice 1016 00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:57,680 Speaker 1: you're playing quarterback in that game? Or I don't know, 1017 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,080 Speaker 1: Come on, Jack, tell it's time. Here we go. There go, 1018 00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,239 Speaker 1: there we go, All right, there we go. There's there's 1019 00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,880 Speaker 1: tent takeaways for you. Well, it's been a fun episode 1020 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,840 Speaker 1: today looking back at an amazing week of football. It was. 1021 00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,359 Speaker 1: It's always fun watching football with a full belly buck 1022 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,520 Speaker 1: coming off Thanksgiving, and I think we got rewarded with 1023 00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:18,040 Speaker 1: some solid play there. Yeah, solid play indeed, And you're right, 1024 00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:21,319 Speaker 1: there's nothing like watching football over Thanksgiving weekend looking forward 1025 00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,440 Speaker 1: to the next later games coming up. Now, we got 1026 00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,399 Speaker 1: a big one coming up here next week which we'll 1027 00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,520 Speaker 1: be keeping an eye on, and we'll have plenty to 1028 00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,600 Speaker 1: talk about here on the recap episode, and that is 1029 00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:31,959 Speaker 1: in the best division football, the NFC West. I feel 1030 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:33,960 Speaker 1: like we've been talking about that division all year long, 1031 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,959 Speaker 1: but at the Rams and the Cardinals next week, that's 1032 00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,640 Speaker 1: one we'll be looking forward to on a impressive slate 1033 00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,880 Speaker 1: of NFL competition, and we'll have all the reaction for 1034 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,240 Speaker 1: you here on the recap episode next week at this time. 1035 00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,600 Speaker 1: So thank you guys so much for joining us, and 1036 00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,400 Speaker 1: we'll catch you next time. Right here, I'll move the 1037 00:48:51,400 --> 00:49:08,080 Speaker 1: sticks presented by Zaxby's up Pat Pat Pat Pat Pat 1038 00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:09,120 Speaker 1: Patent