1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: FBI Director Christopher Ray refusing to not back the bad 2 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: policies of his own department. At the FBI, there was 3 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: a shocking interview that took place, and it was an 4 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: interview between Brett Baer and the FBI Director Chris Ray. 5 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:22,319 Speaker 1: There are a lot of questions that were asked, and 6 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: I'm going to go through some of them because this 7 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: is a very important conversation about the shock of the 8 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: FBI refusing to take accountability for some of their actions. 9 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: We also, this interview comes at a time where there's 10 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: a pr crisis within the FBI, and that is because 11 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 1: the FBI is now polling at a record low. What 12 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 1: does Director Ray have to say in response to that 13 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 1: is even more astounding or just connected with total lack 14 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: of reality. Take a listen, orders. We appreciate you talking 15 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: to us, Absolutely happy to talk with you. Brother. You know, 16 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: polls show that the FPS reputation is at a real 17 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: record low. What do you make of that? Well, Look, 18 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 1: there are all sorts of opinions out there about the FBI, 19 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: just like there are about every major institution these days. 20 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 1: I can tell you that we're focused on the opinions 21 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: of the people. We actually do the work for and 22 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: the people we do the work with. And I look 23 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 1: at things like, for example, are recruiting the thousands and 24 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: thousands of Americans all across this country who are signing 25 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: up in droves to come work for the FBI. And 26 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 1: I should tell you, Brett on that front, a lot 27 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: of people don't know this. That number has gone up 28 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: dramatically over the last few years since I've been in 29 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: this It's really interesting. And that's at a time when 30 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: recruiting for law enforcement, as you may know, in general 31 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: and law enforcement has struggled quite a bit. So you're 32 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: talking about young men and women in their late twenties, 33 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: early thirties, a lot of them with military and law 34 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: enforcement backgrounds, about percent of them with advanced degrees no less, 35 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,639 Speaker 1: who are have a lot of choices in this job market, 36 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: and their choice to come to US, I think speaks 37 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: pretty darned loudly and profoundly about our reputation all across America. 38 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: Your critics say that some of these so let's just 39 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: get this straight. Let's let's break this down. Christopher Ray 40 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: is saying, I'm not worried about record low polling of 41 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: the American people who do not trust the FBI, because 42 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: there's a bunch of people that are signing up for 43 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 1: jobs that need jobs, good paying jobs at the FBI. 44 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: That is total delusionary thinking. There are a lot of 45 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: government agencies that have hit all time low and there 46 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: are people that will still work there and still take 47 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: their job. There are a lot of people that work 48 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: and corrupt governments that are failures all over the country, 49 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: and there are people that still will take the jobs 50 00:02:55,720 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: because you get great benefits and it's incredible what you do. 51 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: By the way, the majority of FBI jobs are not 52 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: in washing in DC. They're not bureaucratic jobs. Their field 53 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: office jobs. There's people that are out in the field 54 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: that are doing amazing work which can be disconnected from 55 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: the politics of the FBI. But the best defense that 56 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: the FBI director could come up with is, well, there's 57 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 1: all sorts of opinions out there about the FBI who 58 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 1: just like there are about every major to institution these days. 59 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: So we're fine, you're not fine. It's a disaster with 60 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: the FBI right now, and then let's get into some 61 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: of the real problems with a director. The director had 62 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: some good things to say, for example, with the Wuhunt 63 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: Institute of Virology. He is not backing down from their 64 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: assessment that the Wuhunt Instute of Virology is, in fact 65 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: where the origins of COVID nineteen come from in that 66 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: lab leak. Now, why wasn't he saying this louder and 67 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: earlier than he is right now? That's the other question, 68 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: and listen to how short his answer actually is. The 69 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: FBI has for quite some time now assessed that the 70 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: origins of the pandemic are most likely a potential lab 71 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: incident in Wuhan. Let me step back for a second. 72 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 1: You know, the FBI has folks, agents, professionals, analysts, virologists, microbiologists, etc. 73 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: Who focused specifically on the dangers of biological threats. If 74 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 1: that is true, then why wasn't the FBI coming out 75 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 1: sooner instead of waiting for years to finally admit and 76 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: tell the American people in the blunt way this is 77 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: what we believe. Why were they not leading on that 78 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: issue if they had assessed not only from everything he 79 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: just mentioned, but also what he referenced there, and that 80 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: is their technology, right, the data that they have, the 81 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 1: top secret data, the classified documents. If this is how 82 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 1: they got to their assessment, why not tell the American people? 83 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 1: And this exactly back to the very first question. The 84 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: reason why Christopher Ray, the FBI director, deflected on the 85 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: question of the low pulling by boasting, well, there's a 86 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 1: lot of people that are looking for jobs the FBI 87 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: is because he knows that the American people do not 88 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: trust the FBI on a litany of issues. And and 89 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: wu Han, yes he did give a good answer. There 90 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 1: tells you everything you need to know. But where did 91 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 1: the trust disappear? This all goes back to, well, multiple 92 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: different facets. It goes back to where their FBI informants 93 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 1: in January six, who is Ray Epps for example. 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They 125 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: were just a pain in the a double ass of 126 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: the Obama Biden administration or the Biden administration or in 127 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: the pain in the rear end to the FBI. And 128 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: you know what he had to say about it, Oh, 129 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: we never did that, even though there are emails from 130 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: FBI top level people to Twitter that are very clear 131 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: that that's exactly what they were doing. They didn't like something, 132 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: they just said, hey, guys, take it down. Suppressed silences. Listen, 133 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: carefully decide. Well, let's start with the laptop. The FBI 134 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,679 Speaker 1: has had access to this laptop for more than three years. 135 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: Why is this investigation on the Hunter Biden laptop taking 136 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: so long? Well, the investigation is being led, as you 137 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: may know, by a US attorney appointed in the last 138 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: administration out of Delaware, and the FBI is actively supporting 139 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: and working with that US attorney on that investigation. But 140 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: the whistleblowers are telling these lawmakers that there was an 141 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: internal effort to shut down the investigation from the beginning. 142 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: Have you found that, I have not found anything like that. 143 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: All right, So let's talk about the FBI and what 144 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: you told Big Tech or some agents did about the 145 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: authenticity and providence of Hunter Biden's laptop. What about that? 146 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: From an FBI perspective, The FBI doesn't It is not 147 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: in the business of functioning. As the Truth Police understood, 148 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: we don't tell social media companies to censor anything. Well, 149 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: or the Twitter fun I suggests something different. I mean 150 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: there was an FBI request numerous times. Taiebe puts it 151 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 1: out FBI San Francisco request to ban certain accounts. Twitter 152 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: personnel in this case went on to look for reasons 153 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 1: to suspend all four accounts that the FBI wanted to 154 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: ban or suspend. Is it appropriate to flag social media 155 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: accounts on Twitter or elsewhere due to politics or government 156 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: policies when it comes to COVID? Is it appropriate anyway? 157 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: You're saying it doesn't happen, but there's evidence that it had. 158 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: We don't tell social media companies to ban accounts. Well, 159 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: you suggest. What we do is tell social media companies 160 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: about information that we have about foreign disinformation campaigns by 161 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: foreign actors by foreign intelligence services, and those companies done 162 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: make decisions about what, if anything, they want to do 163 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: about it. Last thing about one hundred Biden laptop. By 164 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: the way, he just vied to the American people. The 165 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: emails are very clear. Twitter personnel went on to look 166 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: for reasons to spend all four accounts the FBI wanted 167 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: to ban or suspend. So you cannot sit there and 168 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: tell me now all of a sudden that the FBI 169 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: are the good guys here, and then they weren't abusing 170 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: and silencing American to done nothing wrong and taking away 171 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:03,839 Speaker 1: their free speech. He's like, no, no, we didn't do that. Yes, 172 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: you did. We have the emails. The Twitter files show this. 173 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: The Twitter files proved this. The Twitter files make it 174 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: obvious that this is exactly what has happened. I'll give 175 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: you another example of where Christopher Ray still has not 176 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 1: been transparent. The issue Donald Trump. Donald Trump was spied on. 177 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: We know that his campaign was spied on. We know 178 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: that the FBI abused their power and trying to entrap people. 179 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: At the White House, they boasted about this. Yeah, these 180 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: guys are so trusting, right, these guys are so stupid 181 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: over there at the new Trump whiteoutse We just send 182 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: a couple of guys over That's the FBI director said, 183 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: James call me at the time. We just decided we'd 184 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: send a couple guys over, send a couple of guys over, 185 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: and maybe they're stupid enough, right, Maybe they're dumb enough 186 00:10:55,800 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: to talk, Maybe they are dumb enough to actually trust 187 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: us in, Sir General Flynn. General Flenn served his country 188 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: had no reason to believe that the FBI was coming 189 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: in trying to set him up. I think that's an 190 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: easier way of putting it. And what did he do. 191 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: He decided to do what anybody would do if you 192 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 1: didn't think you'd done anything wrong or anything wrong, you 193 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: thought you were helping out your government. They had questions, 194 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: you answered him. In reality, they were trying to entrap you. 195 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: That's what they were trying to do. That's a problem. 196 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: It's a really really, really really big problem. And that's 197 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: exactly what happened. Though they don't care. The FBI went rogue. 198 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 1: They were willing to lock up silence, shut down Twitter accounts, 199 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: shut down social media accounts all over the place. This 200 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,439 Speaker 1: was These were people that were by the way, elected 201 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: by no one. Can we just talk about that they 202 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: were elected by no one who had the power to 203 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: literally shut down your life and put you in jail 204 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: and to frame you for crimes you didn't commit, just 205 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: like they did with General Flynn. So let's talk about 206 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: the classified documents probe into Donald Trump. We're gonna get 207 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: some straight answers into that mar Lago raid and Joe Biden. 208 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: Here's what you had to say about those issues on Fox, 209 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: about the dual system that conservatives point to the documents 210 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 1: investigation for former President Trump and the raid that happens 211 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: in mar Lago, that show of force in that way 212 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: as opposed to the documents investigation for President Biden and 213 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: how that went down. You find out about those documents 214 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: before the November election. The FBI then does the search 215 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: of the House after that, but does not say anything 216 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: prior to the midterm election. So those two things are 217 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: stick in people's minds as different build differently. How do 218 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: you explain that? So, we have a long history of 219 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 1: handling investigations into the mishandling of classified information, and our 220 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: standard for approaching those investigations is the same no matter 221 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: who it is. Our basic approach is the same. That 222 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: approach means that we typically start with the least intrusive 223 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: means to try to retrieve the improperly stored classified information. 224 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 1: But if those less intrusive means don't work, and certainly 225 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: if they're frustrated in some way, then we adapt and 226 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: turn to other legal tools that we've been entrusted with. 227 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: Are you at the table for that decision of how 228 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 1: it looks to go after a former president like the 229 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: way that it happened in more Lago. Well, I oversee 230 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:54,479 Speaker 1: the FBI. I expect any significant investigation to be conducted 231 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: by the book and I do that with adherence to 232 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: our rules, our policy sees our practices. Why didn't we 233 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: know anything about the FBI looking to President Biden prior 234 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,439 Speaker 1: to the election. Well, again, I can't talk about specific 235 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: investigations that are ongoing, both of which are being led 236 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: by special counsel, other than to say it is not 237 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: our normal practice to discuss publicly specific investigations. All right, 238 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: So let's talk about by the book mark HOWK Pennsylvania? 239 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: I mean, does anybody believe this? I don't, And that 240 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: is what is so damning for this administration and for 241 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: this FBI. You know, he says in the classified document probe. Well, 242 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: our standard approach is the same no matter who it 243 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: is that's not true. The way that you would attack 244 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: Donald Trump, the way that you try to frame him, 245 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: the way that you guys refuse to tell the truth 246 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: the American people on a litany of issues. One of 247 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: those issues is on Russia collusion. You cannot forget that 248 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: the FBI knew that the Russian Colu story was a 249 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: hoax before anyone else knew it. Okay, they knew from 250 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: the very beginning that it wasn't real. They had assessed 251 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: that it wasn't real. Everyone knew that it wasn't real, 252 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: and they went with it. They went with it. Why 253 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: because they didn't like Donald Trump. They did the same 254 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: thing with the Hunter Biden laptop. The Hunter Biden laptop 255 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: comes into them, they have a copy of it, and 256 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: they tried to actually classify it as disinformation, implying that 257 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: it wasn't real, so that no one could actually investigate it. 258 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: Tell me that's not a major problem, Tell me that's 259 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: not totally insane. And the FBI then comes out, looks 260 00:15:54,680 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: you straight in the face and says to you, oh, no, 261 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: we have the same standard of justice for those on 262 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: the right as we do on the left. You you 263 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: you helped a president be impeached by being silent with 264 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: Donald Trump when you knew the story was a lie. Okay, 265 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: you knew the story was a lie. And then when 266 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: it comes to the FBI looking into Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, 267 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: James Biden, you're completely silent. You don't say I have 268 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: anything to say, you have nothing to talk about. You're 269 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: just gonna sit there and act like it never happened. 270 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: Sit there and act like, Oh, it's totally fine. I mean, 271 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: let's go to January the sixth. January the sixth was 272 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: a big day. January six was a day that Democrats 273 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: tried to use to imply that we were. There was 274 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: a massive insurrection and overthrow the government by unarmed people 275 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: at the Capitol. And there was a question that came 276 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: up after that, and the question was a simple one. Hey, 277 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: did you guys have the FBI informants or paid people 278 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: in that crowd to agitate that crowd, inspire that crowd 279 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: to go into the capitol, Because the night before there 280 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 1: was a guy by the name of Ray Apps that 281 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: was trying to encourage people to knock down the barricades. 282 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: The next day and people started chanting, fed, fed, fed, 283 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 1: Why were they saying that why because the people in 284 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: the crowd knew that he was full of crap. The 285 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: FBI was lying. They knew this guy wasn't a real 286 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: Trump supporter, and and they're like, this guy's are in 287 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: the federal government. This is an insider. When you look 288 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: at January the sixth, that day, overall, I think most 289 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: people feel like something wasn't right. And when Christopher Ray says, 290 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 1: you know, when he responds to accusations or the FBI's 291 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 1: political bias, he says, quote, the FBI is on the 292 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 1: American people's side, That's just not true. Again, go back 293 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: to his quote, I hear these claims of politicalization, but 294 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: I can't tell you, but I can tell you that 295 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: the FBI is and is going to stay independent. That's 296 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: not true. You guys were silencing people on social media. 297 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 1: You were sending enemies lists to big tech to silence people. 298 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: You knew that Donald Trump had not done anything wrong 299 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: with Russia, and you allowed for that investigation and impeachment 300 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 1: to continue. You shut down, you silenced, You didn't say anything. 301 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 1: That's a problem. You could have stopped it. You knew 302 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: by the way that the Hunter Biden laptop was authentic 303 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: and real, and you had it, and you guys still 304 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: allowed for the media narrative to be pushed out there 305 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 1: to silence the story ahead of the election. Don't tell 306 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 1: me that you're unbiased. Don't tell me that you're trying 307 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 1: to tell us the truth. You're not. And the other 308 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 1: question is about January sixth, Hey, did you guys have 309 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: FBI informants in the crowd? Did you have activists in 310 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: the crowd? Did you have people you're paying to help 311 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: advocate for riots in the crowd. There's a lot of evidence, 312 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: by the way, to point to this, and that's the 313 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: reason why this is a real question that was asked 314 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: by Brett Bear And listen to the director's response to 315 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 1: the Capital riot probe and the other Twitter question we 316 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 1: get a lot is did the FBI have undercover agents 317 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: or paid informants or assets among the mob that stormed 318 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: the capital in January sets Well, as I'm sure you 319 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: can appreciate, Brett, I can't really appropriately talk about when, where, 320 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 1: and how we use confidential informants. Is it classified? Well, 321 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 1: we have information that is about any number of topics 322 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: that is law enforcement sensitive. But you should not read 323 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: into my inability to answer a question because of my 324 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 1: obligations as that as a clue or a hint in 325 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 1: any way about how accurate your reader's tweet is. Final 326 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 1: word about the FBI, I mean, I mean, really, how 327 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: inaccurate or accurate your your reader is? Right? We have 328 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 1: information is that is about any number of topic and 329 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,959 Speaker 1: that is law enforcement sensitive. 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You know riot and 366 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: was saying, we need to, you know, break down the barriers. 367 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 1: And people were like, dude, that guy's a FED, Like 368 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 1: that's not us, like as a FED And they started 369 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: calling saying that over and over again, fed fed FED. 370 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 1: And then the next day shows up and the next 371 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: day he goes over and whispers the guy. And immediately 372 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 1: right after he whispers the guy, five seconds later that 373 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: guy starts breaking down barriers. And then the FBI put 374 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,959 Speaker 1: out pictures of people that were wanted they wanted a question, 375 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: they were involved in January the sixth, and Ray Epps 376 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,919 Speaker 1: picture was up there. Well then people identified him as 377 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: Ray Apps, and all of a sudden, Ray Apps and 378 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: people wanting information to the FBI about him just disappears. 379 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: The FBI changes their information. Wanted to admit Ray Epps. 380 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 1: It's like, oh crap, that's our own guy. Oh shoot, 381 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 1: that's one of ours. Take all that down from the internet. 382 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 1: Take that down as fast as you can. So here 383 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: is again the FBI, one of their top individuals at 384 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: the FBI asking this is about the questions about Ray 385 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: Apps and has disappeared from the FBI's public posting and 386 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: the fact that there's no public accountability for this, and 387 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 1: the American people deserve to know if there was five 388 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: or ten, or twenty or one hundred people in that 389 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 1: January sixth insurrection that we're FBI paid informants that were 390 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: a part of it. Listen, Miss Sandburn, who is Ray Epps. 391 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 1: I'm aware of the individual, Sir, I don't have the 392 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: specific background to him. Well, there are a lot of 393 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: people who are understandable about misters. On the night of 394 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 1: January fifth, twenty twenty one, EPs wandered around the crowd 395 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 1: that had gathered, and there's video out there of him 396 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: channing tomorrow, we need to get into the capital, into 397 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: the capital. This was strange behavior, so strange that the 398 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 1: crowd began chanting fed fed, Fed, Fed, fed fed. Miss 399 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: Sandburn was Rayps fed? Sir, I cannot answer that question. 400 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 1: The next day, the next day, on January sixth, mister 401 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: ffs a scene whispering to a person, and five seconds later, 402 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: five seconds after he's whispering to a person, that same 403 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 1: person begins to forcibly tear down the barricades. Did mister 404 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: Epps urge them to tear down the barricades? Similar to 405 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,439 Speaker 1: the other answers, I cannot answer that. Shortly thereafter, the 406 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: FBI put out a public posts listing seeking information on 407 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 1: individuals connected with violent crimes on January sixth. Among those 408 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 1: individuals in the bottom there is mister Epps. The FBI 409 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 1: publicly asked for information identifying offering cash rewards, leading information 410 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 1: leading for information leading to the arrest. This was posted, 411 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 1: and then sometime later, magically, mister Epps disappeared from the 412 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 1: public posting. According to public records, mister Epps has not 413 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 1: been charged with anything. No one's explained why a person 414 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 1: videoed urging people to go to the capitol, a person 415 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: whose conduct was so suspect the crowd believed he was 416 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 1: a fed would magically disappear from the list of people 417 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 1: the FBI was looking at, Miss Sandburn. A lot of 418 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: Americans are concerned that the federal government deliberately encouraged illegal 419 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: and violent conduct on January sixth. My question to you, 420 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: and this is this is not an ordinary law enforcement question. 421 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: This is a question of a public accountability. Did federal 422 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: agents are those in service a federal agent actively encourage 423 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:33,919 Speaker 1: violent and criminal conduct on January sixth? Not, to my knowledge, sir, 424 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: Thank you, Wow, can't answer that can't talk about that, 425 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: can't say anything about that. We're just gonna sit here 426 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 1: and act like it cannot happen. Four different times he 427 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 1: would tech crews just asked the FBI was Ray Apps 428 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: a fed? Ray Apps disappears from the FBI's public posting 429 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: Ray Apps. The guy that was, they were chanting at 430 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: him fed fed. I mean, these are all things the 431 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 1: FBI knows about, and they won't give us an answer. 432 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: But don't worry. They're non political. Were their FBI informants there? 433 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: How many? We can't answer that question, right, We cannot 434 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: do it. So why don't you do trust the FBI? 435 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: Right now? Let's go back to that answer. Well, because 436 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: a lot of people want jobs with us, even on 437 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: issues that are non non political, I mean, like non political. 438 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: The FBI director couldn't even answer those questions. I'll give 439 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 1: you another example. Christopher Ray would not answer the question 440 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: if drug cartel should be designated as a terrorist organization now, 441 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 1: and that's a non political question. They're bringing fetnel over 442 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: the border at record numbers, enough fetnel to kill like 443 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: every American times four. The amount of fetnel that's coming 444 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: across the board, the amount of people that are dying. 445 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: The number one killer of young people right now in 446 00:26:54,520 --> 00:27:00,400 Speaker 1: this country is fetnyl. Simple question, Does and show drug 447 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 1: cartels big designated as terrorist organizations? And can the FBI 448 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: give you a straight answer on that? No, but they 449 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: want you to wait. They're non political listen partners are 450 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 1: doing and that's unfortunate for everybody. It's on immigration. Do 451 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: you believe the cartels should be designated as terrorist organizations? Well, 452 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 1: I do believe that the cartels represent a significant threat, 453 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: and we have hundreds The FBI has hundreds of investigations 454 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 1: that go into cartel leadership and I'm interested in all 455 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 1: appropriate legal tools that will help us go after them. 456 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: We are going after them. Obviously, we're not responsible for 457 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 1: the physical security at the border, but we recognize that 458 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,880 Speaker 1: the threats emanating from the border are serious and we're 459 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: determined to do our part as a team effort to 460 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: combat those threats. We have field offices all across the 461 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: border that have made hundreds of arrest just last year. 462 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,199 Speaker 1: I mean, I'll just give you one example. You know, 463 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: our Albucay division, our New Mexico division, in one seizure 464 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 1: last fall, seized a million fentanyl pills as if that 465 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: weren't enough loads of methamphetamine, something like two million dollars 466 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 1: in cash, lots and lots of guns, ballistic vests, hand grenades, 467 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: those million pills. Think about that for a second. If 468 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: just one percent, one percent of those pills contained a 469 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: lethal dose, we're talking about thousands of American lives that 470 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: our folks and our partners saved that day. And that's 471 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: just one FBI field office in one seizure in one day. 472 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: We're doing scores of those investigations. So it's a significant 473 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: threat and we're determined to do our part. That's amazing, 474 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: And today we had this really emotional time. I love 475 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: how it is. That's amazing. Right, that's amazing. So you're 476 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: gonna are you gonna name them a terrist organization? I'm 477 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: not gonna. I'm not gonna name it these drug cartels, 478 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: terrace organizations. I'm not going to say that we should. 479 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: Why would I do that. I'm not gonna say anything 480 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: close to that. All right, make sure that you share 481 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: this podcast about the FBI with your family and friends. 482 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: Please write us a five star review. We're going to 483 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: keep on this issue. We're not going to back off, 484 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: and I'll see you back here tomorrow