WEBVTT - AEW CEO Tony Khan (Part 2)

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<v Speaker 1>What's up everybody? Welcome back, and here is part two

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<v Speaker 1>of our interview with Tony count Now stuffing up to

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<v Speaker 1>the mic. The host of Wrestling with Freddie Freddie Bruce June. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>m JF my favorite wrestler right now, the man at

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<v Speaker 1>the moment, I was watching MLW and it was, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>hard to miss. And JF Uh did he cut a

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<v Speaker 1>promo that night? Uh? He cut? I watched him money.

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<v Speaker 1>I watched like for weeks and weeks and months and

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<v Speaker 1>months all through so I saw cut a lot of promos.

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<v Speaker 1>They had a lot of good people on the show

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<v Speaker 1>at that time. Um and uh so I was. I

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<v Speaker 1>was watching it pretty regularly looking for people, so I

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<v Speaker 1>would go back in that summer and and and Jeff

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<v Speaker 1>was one of the real standout people. You know. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>just topped top of my head. And this is the

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<v Speaker 1>same stuff all hardcore fans might have been watching at

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<v Speaker 1>that time. But I was really into New Japan. They

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<v Speaker 1>had the show on Access but also a court in

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<v Speaker 1>New Japan World and that was, like he said, A

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<v Speaker 1>big part of my business case was, um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>taking Omega versus Jericho, bringing it to America, and I

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<v Speaker 1>knew that match had been a huge fan event around

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<v Speaker 1>the world, and I thought on American pay per view

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<v Speaker 1>it would draw a big audience and also would draw

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<v Speaker 1>a big house having seen what they did at the Tokyoo,

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<v Speaker 1>and and then I was trying to build a roster

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<v Speaker 1>kind of around and obviously, like you know, Young Bucks

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<v Speaker 1>versus Luta Brothers is a great tag match that that

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<v Speaker 1>could headline of pay per view. Um, so you love

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<v Speaker 1>you love tag team wrestling, You actually love it. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a fan thing, okay, because I I pushed every

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<v Speaker 1>well not just me, everyone when I worked there, pushed

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<v Speaker 1>so hard, and Vince was always like, I'm paying four

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<v Speaker 1>people for one match, and so he just he hated

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<v Speaker 1>he hated it. That's why it's never been that legitimate.

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<v Speaker 1>But except maybe like eight months here, three months here

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<v Speaker 1>and then not forget all that, but you have a

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<v Speaker 1>genuine love for it to the point where you guys

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<v Speaker 1>just put Moxley and and and and Brian together. Now

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<v Speaker 1>even nobody's beating them, bro, nobody's beating them. Nobody, nobody

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<v Speaker 1>is beating the American Dragon period. And my nobody's beating them.

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<v Speaker 1>No way, I'll do a run in and prevent the pinfall.

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<v Speaker 1>If it happens, those men will be killers. I love

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<v Speaker 1>that you guys put them together. They're so great and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a great parent. I didn't want to and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want a short change. Uh m JF. We still

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<v Speaker 1>haven't given. Don't worry. He won't let you no E, Definitely,

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<v Speaker 1>I won't. I won't be able to do that. And

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<v Speaker 1>heast that's one person I'm not gonna have a change

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<v Speaker 1>to short change. He's Uh, such a great wrestler, is

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<v Speaker 1>such a great professional. And you were talking about all

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<v Speaker 1>the great stuff that CM punkin m JF did uh

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<v Speaker 1>in building up their dog collar match, the revolution and

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<v Speaker 1>telling the story. It's one of the best things I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever been a part of in my life. I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>loved a match like that. And I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>long period I I literally start to finish all like

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<v Speaker 1>they say, suspension of disbelief, All that was gone, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I literally, you guys built up to it. This kid,

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<v Speaker 1>he's like twenty four years old, this kid or twenty

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<v Speaker 1>six years old. Some crazy. I was such an idiot

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<v Speaker 1>at that age, and just to see how crisp and

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<v Speaker 1>clean and precise all this was. To see that match

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<v Speaker 1>and you guys had a long chain and so like

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<v Speaker 1>even like the visuals when they were tired and spread

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<v Speaker 1>out across the ring, it was just like it looked

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<v Speaker 1>you could pause it and take a photo like. I

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<v Speaker 1>loved everything, And I think it is the best story

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<v Speaker 1>and the best maybe not best match, because there's some

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<v Speaker 1>other ones that have got to be up there with it,

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<v Speaker 1>but the best story that I've seen you guys do,

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<v Speaker 1>and the best story that I've seen in wrestling period

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<v Speaker 1>since before I ever wrote a wrestling story. And I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't even tell you the one I liked more. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's love, I love, I love, Thank you man. It

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<v Speaker 1>means a lot to me to hear that. But also

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<v Speaker 1>it's emblematic uh uh my philosophy in a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>ways because I give all the credits to two of

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<v Speaker 1>them and Jaff and see him punk. I am that

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<v Speaker 1>administrator in a lot of ways. And what I think

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<v Speaker 1>is really cool is you know what people people will

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<v Speaker 1>ask why I don't have a lot of writers, It's

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<v Speaker 1>because I've worked with the top talent and there's all

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<v Speaker 1>developed stories and programs front all due to everything and

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<v Speaker 1>say like you're gonna do this, this and this, You're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna here's ere gonna work this week. We're gonna build

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<v Speaker 1>you up, and then at the end of the next week,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll explain where we're going next week. And you can

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<v Speaker 1>do that with like some younger people, but with like

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<v Speaker 1>and Jeff and see him punk, you know, with each

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<v Speaker 1>of them, I spent hours and hours sitting and planning

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<v Speaker 1>and talking, and they both team in with such great

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<v Speaker 1>ideas and a lot of this stuff just matched up beautifully.

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<v Speaker 1>And they both had like long term story ideas and

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<v Speaker 1>things that to do. And when you have wrestlers with

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<v Speaker 1>those kinds of great ideas, Look, I don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>do every idea that it's thrown in here and tried to.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the thing. I try to pick the best one

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<v Speaker 1>and talk to different people about different ideas. But I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I'm better off talking to the two of them.

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<v Speaker 1>I imagine if I'd gone off in a room with

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<v Speaker 1>neither of them, with like six other people and then

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<v Speaker 1>to this was the death of This was the death

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<v Speaker 1>of every good idea that people smashed. The writer's room

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<v Speaker 1>for w W is so often and I've even being

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<v Speaker 1>critical and I've written some dog stories too, by the way, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but the fact that there would be literally forty or

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<v Speaker 1>more people that all got to have say on a storyline.

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<v Speaker 1>The day of a show, I literally would just be like, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>this is so far removed from what it started as.

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<v Speaker 1>This won't how how can we make it? Was crazy?

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<v Speaker 1>So I love that control a controlled envirus with Brian Denna,

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<v Speaker 1>he rest in Peace. We're talking about a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>past on actors. But h he said artist, Brian Denna,

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<v Speaker 1>he said artist, Oh my god, Okay. He was like

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<v Speaker 1>a mentor to me on Summer Catch. He was a

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<v Speaker 1>great dude. I went to go watch him a Iceman

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<v Speaker 1>comment on Broadway and he killed it and I was like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>you're amazing. And he goes Freddie actors or he said

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<v Speaker 1>artists need an environment that's conducive to success, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, yeah, that's why this movie sucked. That

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<v Speaker 1>movie and I started like put peace and things together.

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<v Speaker 1>And he was just such an old school, like clean

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<v Speaker 1>personality like that. I love that you can trust your

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<v Speaker 1>talent like that, and the ones who you who you

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<v Speaker 1>can't you can help kind of shape and develop and

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<v Speaker 1>bring up and not force the entire world upon their

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<v Speaker 1>shoulders before they're ready. The entire thing was the three

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<v Speaker 1>of us like that, and that's how it should be,

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<v Speaker 1>like jealous, right, and that's like that's and and it's

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<v Speaker 1>been like that a lot. Like the same thing when

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<v Speaker 1>Paul came in with Darby, you know, he and I,

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<v Speaker 1>Punk and I sat down put ideas together, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I went to Darby and nobody in the wrestling business

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<v Speaker 1>knew what was going on with me and Punk, and

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<v Speaker 1>I went to Darby and said, it's the promo you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do. And basically it was the one I think, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe ten days before the first dance. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was um in early August. And the line

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<v Speaker 1>I gave Darby was a w you know, no matter

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<v Speaker 1>how great you think you are, if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>prove it, you have to come to a w even

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<v Speaker 1>if you think you're the best in the world. And

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<v Speaker 1>I knew that like that one line would Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>it's great. And like working with different people, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's uh Moxley and and Danielson or the Young

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<v Speaker 1>Bucks and Adam Cole and Tenny when when he spent

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<v Speaker 1>healthy obviously Jericho and Eddie Kingston, Oh my gosh, Eddie.

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<v Speaker 1>Eddie gets some of the biggest reactions in the damn company.

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<v Speaker 1>They love him and that story they told was beautiful,

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<v Speaker 1>and I love that he didn't shake his hand and

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<v Speaker 1>there was so much hatefulness. But Eddie's talking on the mic.

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<v Speaker 1>I had him on the show Man and I told

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<v Speaker 1>him this. On the show, I said, and you guys

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<v Speaker 1>need to give your social media people are raised by

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<v Speaker 1>the way you guys cut together a clip with some

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<v Speaker 1>music and Eddie was talking about some some Latino pride

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, I'm not full Puerto Rican either, and

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<v Speaker 1>I leg it, like my eyes welled up. I was like, Yo,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy is gonna make me cry. And then like

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<v Speaker 1>three months later he's making me want to watch him

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<v Speaker 1>fight somebody. I was just like, they have some dudes

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<v Speaker 1>that I am in love with. We talked off air

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<v Speaker 1>about my love for for cargill Um, who I told

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<v Speaker 1>you I think literally is is the goddess Athena just

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<v Speaker 1>she never left and all the all the other Greek

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<v Speaker 1>gods died and she just ate them or or consumed

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<v Speaker 1>their souls or something. I think she I literally have

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<v Speaker 1>never It's like when I was a it in the eighties,

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<v Speaker 1>I saw the ultimate warrior at a house show in

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<v Speaker 1>Tinglely Colisseum, which was a rodeo house in Albuquerque, New Mexico.

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<v Speaker 1>And he looked like he was sculpted from granite and

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<v Speaker 1>that his muscles didn't even push in when the other

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<v Speaker 1>men punched him. Like everything it was like body armor.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I saw her, I was literally watching it

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<v Speaker 1>with my twelve year old daughter, and my daughter I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care about language. She's seen all Sarah's in my movies,

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<v Speaker 1>so language isn't it. But when Jade Gargill talked about

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<v Speaker 1>being a bad bitch, and I literally watched my daughter's

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<v Speaker 1>head and you guys can't see this Tony camp, but

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<v Speaker 1>her literally her whole posture when Jade said that, she

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<v Speaker 1>just went up up, up, chest out shin hai and

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<v Speaker 1>it was just like she would looked like she was

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<v Speaker 1>ready to fight. And I was like, yo, she just

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<v Speaker 1>had her ultimate worrior like she literally was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm taking pride. It was this crazy moment where I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's why I still love wrestling to this to this

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<v Speaker 1>day is because of stuff like that. And I've gotten

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of jump back in through my children, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so grateful. People talk about the craziness of wrestling.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is a renaissance for wrestling. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>rebirth and you guys have shown it now for a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years and have a consistent number that I

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<v Speaker 1>can't wait to watch grow. Um, you guys are coming

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<v Speaker 1>to l A soon. I want to come to that show. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna run in. I will not affect any matches,

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<v Speaker 1>even if Moxley is in trouble and uh, but I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to go. I haven't been to a live

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<v Speaker 1>show in so long. I got to indie shows out here,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's a different vibe. You guys are gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>at the Forum, which is beautiful now since they bought

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<v Speaker 1>it and refurbished it. The acoustics are great in there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's such a beautiful space. And a w W A

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<v Speaker 1>abandoned our West coasts. There's no more summer slams here,

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<v Speaker 1>So let us show you. Let us make you feel

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<v Speaker 1>at home. Man, we'll sell your asses out. I'm I've

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<v Speaker 1>lived in l A for you know, years of my life,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, I think wait to come back. M h.

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<v Speaker 1>I said this once in another interview, but I went

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<v Speaker 1>completely over the head of everybody in the room, I

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<v Speaker 1>said it too, so you'll appreciate this much more than

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<v Speaker 1>anyone else in that media scrum. I think, uh so,

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<v Speaker 1>like I love going back, and I was back to

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<v Speaker 1>the super Bowl and it was the first time I've

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<v Speaker 1>been able to really hang out in l A in

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<v Speaker 1>a while because I was back for a few days

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<v Speaker 1>and I went to Craigs and you know, there's like

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<v Speaker 1>a paparazzi out in front of Craigs, and I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>that whenever you walk into a friend and Freddy didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to take photos and that's why I hide out. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Like so when I when I never had that at

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<v Speaker 1>Craigs before, like where they like mob me and I

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<v Speaker 1>got right like, oh, man, like this is a very

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<v Speaker 1>different l A than the last man TMZ likes for wrestling. Bro.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's you know, Hollywood embraces or embraced wrestling one

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<v Speaker 1>time one time in the eighties, and then it was

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<v Speaker 1>always kind of like this, yeah, they're in our business,

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<v Speaker 1>but not really in our business. Like in the nineties

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<v Speaker 1>when I was coming up, they'd be like pretty your

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<v Speaker 1>film act or not a TV actor. I'm like what

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<v Speaker 1>And then all of a sudden, Glenn Close does a

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<v Speaker 1>show on effects and it's like opens up the floodgates

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<v Speaker 1>for everyone right close. What a really nice lady, bro.

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<v Speaker 1>She and only one other actor are the only people

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<v Speaker 1>who have ever won an Academy Award, Tony Award and

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<v Speaker 1>an Emmy Award. It's like her and Jack Albertson from

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<v Speaker 1>Willy Wonka to Chocolate Factor. It's so talented but also

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<v Speaker 1>like a really really nice person. We went to the

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<v Speaker 1>Abaijing Olympics together. What whoa whoa what? What American contingent

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<v Speaker 1>of people like our our my family and some other families. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>there was like it was like a group of CEOs

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<v Speaker 1>and her husband and my dad and a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>people organized this up to Beijing for the two thous Olympics.

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<v Speaker 1>I just graduated college like maybe a year prior, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was I was working my first job, and uh

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<v Speaker 1>it was a lot of fun. But like the Beijing Olympics,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a real experience and like these days, they

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<v Speaker 1>organized this like tour. So we were like going game

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<v Speaker 1>to game and there was no food, like and we

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<v Speaker 1>get to the I haven't seen her in years, but

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<v Speaker 1>this is like she was so nice. Um. We got

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<v Speaker 1>into the basketball games and it was USA versus China.

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<v Speaker 1>It was at the time the most watched supporting event

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<v Speaker 1>of all time. There are three billion people watched the

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<v Speaker 1>USA versus China, and USA had Lebron, Kobe, Yeah, Carmelo,

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<v Speaker 1>so many great players and uh. And I went out

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<v Speaker 1>and the concession stand all. Now, the one thing they

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<v Speaker 1>did in Beijing really well is all the stuff on

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<v Speaker 1>the menu was very affordably priced. But like it was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it was like meat on stick, which is like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what's this gonna be? And could you just tell me

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<v Speaker 1>what kind of meat? Yeah, there was just one thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember what it said, but I think it

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<v Speaker 1>said biscuits or something, and I was like, I've tried

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<v Speaker 1>what is At this point I got to see that

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<v Speaker 1>it turned out to be Rich tract on Oh, like

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<v Speaker 1>biscuits like English crackers. Yeah. Like so I get like

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<v Speaker 1>a box of rich crackers and the Olympics I sit

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<v Speaker 1>down unclosed looks at me and she goes, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>rich practice, where did you get those? Like it's so like, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, it was such a great talent. Also, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all those old school actresses are so smooth, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I fell in love with all of them a little bit, man,

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<v Speaker 1>and they always have like great quotes. I remember Kathleen

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<v Speaker 1>Turner was quoted as saying, a movie is a marriage

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<v Speaker 1>with a guaranteed divorce. So fall in love as much

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<v Speaker 1>as you want because it end's suit enough. And it

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<v Speaker 1>was just like, Yo, that's some smooth ship. I would

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<v Speaker 1>never say, I'd be like, movies are cool, like making

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<v Speaker 1>the like it would never sound smooth like that. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that you got to hang with her. When

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<v Speaker 1>I was coming up, I always got to, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>My dad charmed a lot of people, so they they

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<v Speaker 1>were good to me, you know. And I met a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of old school cats and I could always tell

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<v Speaker 1>if they had slept with my father or not based

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<v Speaker 1>on the way they said. Hi, I'll tell you that

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<v Speaker 1>you'll love this story. Okay, you're the perfect age for this.

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<v Speaker 1>So you remember Joanna Kerns from Growing Pains, Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>sweetest mom in the world. In the seventies. She was

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<v Speaker 1>a dancer and a really good one, and my dad

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<v Speaker 1>was dating her, and that he used to go on

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<v Speaker 1>dates with her and Pam Greer because they liked each other.

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<v Speaker 1>So we take them both out at the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>This is seventies game. So I'm on a pilot that

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get picked up and Joanna Kurrens is playing one

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<v Speaker 1>of the roles and I didn't even know and I

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<v Speaker 1>go into the trailer and I see her look at

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<v Speaker 1>me and double take and she goes hi. So right

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<v Speaker 1>away I know the hand sex. Right right away, I

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<v Speaker 1>know they had sex because there's always a breath first,

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<v Speaker 1>it's always and if it's not, if it's just oh, hello,

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<v Speaker 1>then I know they were just friends and cool. Right

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<v Speaker 1>So right away, I'm like, oh my gosh, this is awkward.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm sitting there and she goes this quiet and

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<v Speaker 1>awkward and she goes, can I tell you a story

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<v Speaker 1>about your dad? And I was like, I was waiting

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<v Speaker 1>for it. So she goes, okay, your dad and I

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<v Speaker 1>it was and we were on a date with Pam Greer,

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<v Speaker 1>me and your dad at a restaurant and Richard Pryor

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<v Speaker 1>called the restaurant and he said, hey, I'm having a

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<v Speaker 1>party at my house. Come by, and Richard discovered my father.

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<v Speaker 1>But he was very jealous of my father because he

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<v Speaker 1>loved Pam Greer, and Pam wrote about this in her biography,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's not like uh an autobias, it's not like

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<v Speaker 1>telling tales out of school. But she loved my daddy.

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<v Speaker 1>So my dad brought Pam and Joanna to Richard's house

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<v Speaker 1>and there was no party. My my dad in the seventies,

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<v Speaker 1>Playboy Radio would do comedy from like ten pm to

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<v Speaker 1>two am on the radio, and a lot of comments

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<v Speaker 1>would try out new new material there just to see

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<v Speaker 1>how it would play it. And my dad had a

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<v Speaker 1>set that he hated, and Richard got the set and

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<v Speaker 1>he started playing it as soon as they walked in,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like, yeah, you're gonna fall in love with

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<v Speaker 1>this on motherfucker. And my dad goes, and Joanne's telling

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<v Speaker 1>me the story. She goes, your dad jumped over the couch,

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<v Speaker 1>punched Richard in the face, took the real office like

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<v Speaker 1>it was on like a wheel to wheel audio thing,

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<v Speaker 1>grab Pam and left me. I said, what, She goes, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he forgot me at Richard's house. I go, what did

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<v Speaker 1>Richard do? He said, bitch, get yourself a cab through

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<v Speaker 1>her holy ship. That's one of the greatest stories I

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<v Speaker 1>ever hear. The old school actresses are always the best man,

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<v Speaker 1>always and the seventies were the seventies, man, So they

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<v Speaker 1>get to have the coolest stories. Our stories are like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was pretty sweet. There's a you know, an hour

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<v Speaker 1>long and awesome. Yeah. Yeah, I've got nothing that can

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<v Speaker 1>compared to that we were. We were just born in

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<v Speaker 1>the wrong generation, that's all. But listen, dude, you you're

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<v Speaker 1>kicking so much ass man. And I love to see

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<v Speaker 1>the growth of the of the brand that you're building.

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<v Speaker 1>I love to see your take on the business. What's

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<v Speaker 1>your favorite stuff? Like not you take the modern taking

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<v Speaker 1>whatever and not that I'm saying, be said you like

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of what we're doing going back, Like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what's your favorite stuff? So, like, if I had to

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite sort of moments. I loved when JBL invaded

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<v Speaker 1>ECW and cut the Wrestling God promo. That's one of

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite promos of all time. Uh, Bret, you love

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<v Speaker 1>the original One Night? Yeah? Yeah? Um. I loved Bret Hart,

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<v Speaker 1>not Shawn Michaels. I always pulled pulled for Bret Hart.

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<v Speaker 1>I always believed in Bret Hart. All my friends pulled

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<v Speaker 1>for Shawn Michael's. Karen Culkin and I still argue about

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<v Speaker 1>it to this day and in a very unfriendly way. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>very much, so very much, So I gotta go. Lenarly

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<v Speaker 1>taught my dad out of freaking drive, so I gotta go. Lit.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like we're the way people went back and

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<v Speaker 1>forth on it. It reminds me of Dave and j

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<v Speaker 1>because it was like to like people and in the

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<v Speaker 1>same era in the nineties, these two and especially with

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<v Speaker 1>the behind the scenes stuff going on to it was

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<v Speaker 1>very similar. He used to be friends and they were

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<v Speaker 1>really a big part of like and you know, Brett

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<v Speaker 1>had like done a lot to help advance Shahn's career

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<v Speaker 1>when even be a singles wrestler, just like David a

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<v Speaker 1>lot to advanced to day his career um as a

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<v Speaker 1>comedian when and uh and then the way it shook

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<v Speaker 1>out and one guy being maybe flash here and the

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<v Speaker 1>other guy being more In Dave's case, I would say

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<v Speaker 1>like a little bit more probably the comics comics, I

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<v Speaker 1>would I would say he's the more intellectual of the

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<v Speaker 1>comics and Jay was the more mainstream, right like Jay

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<v Speaker 1>had Jay. I I know Jay Leno's seventies set because

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<v Speaker 1>my dad gave him his first job and he literally

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<v Speaker 1>had jokes about milk and cookies you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>whereas like Dave let him is never going to touch

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<v Speaker 1>that subject unless it's in the most cynical way possible,

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<v Speaker 1>and it has nothing to do with milk or cookies.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just like you know, the color for it. So

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<v Speaker 1>they were very different, very different comics as far as

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<v Speaker 1>like an accessible, safe and and one who doesn't care

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't get his joke. He just doesn't care,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. And Dave, Dave doesn't care

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't get to Dave used to be rough

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<v Speaker 1>on a guest if the guest wasn't that good, he

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<v Speaker 1>would kind of dump on the guest, whereas Jay's like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's let's sparkle. Let's sparkle. But I think actors

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<v Speaker 1>and comics and musicians always wanted to earn Dave's respect

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<v Speaker 1>more than Jay's when they were doing the shows back

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<v Speaker 1>in the day. There's so many wrestlers in the business

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<v Speaker 1>and they talk about in the same way about trying to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, getting respect. From Brett Hard it's like the

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<v Speaker 1>highest because he's so sparing with it. He doesn't throw

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<v Speaker 1>it out there. He really it's an old school philosophy

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<v Speaker 1>hand out dignity demand people earn respect. Everyone deserves dignity,

0:20:54.240 --> 0:20:57.440
<v Speaker 1>but respect should be earned on a case by case basis,

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<v Speaker 1>and Bret Hart embodies that way more than anything I

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<v Speaker 1>just said, you know what I mean, Like he's so

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<v Speaker 1>hardcore about it, and that's still so Yeah. I've always

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<v Speaker 1>I've always been a fan of Brett, But like I

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<v Speaker 1>watched just like gotta watched America go back and forth

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<v Speaker 1>on Dave and Jay. I watched uh, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>w WF even go back on the fans hand Vince

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah Worth on them at different points, and it's really

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a fascinating thing to watch. Like the experience

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<v Speaker 1>Bob Right and NBC was probably having was very similar

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<v Speaker 1>to the experiences Vince was having very much, so very much.

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<v Speaker 1>So all we gotta do is find the uh, we

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<v Speaker 1>gotta find whatever the the equivalent for the Jamie Kellner

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<v Speaker 1>character is and then everybody will kind of universally team

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<v Speaker 1>up and beat him down. You know, he was he

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<v Speaker 1>was the exact on on Sarah's show back on the

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<v Speaker 1>day on Buffy, and so when he I used to

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<v Speaker 1>give him ship all the time, I'd be like, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna kick your ass when he'd be like, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not me. I'd be like, I know exactly, it

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<v Speaker 1>was you. I used to give him ship all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>but it worked out great for me. You're the last

0:22:01.160 --> 0:22:04.600
<v Speaker 1>one to complain about You're You're as big as fit.

0:22:05.119 --> 0:22:07.080
<v Speaker 1>You would be here right now. I would be working

0:22:07.119 --> 0:22:09.840
<v Speaker 1>in football and I would still be very happy, but

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<v Speaker 1>I would I would never have unlocked this part of

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<v Speaker 1>my life. You get to do something creative, which is

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<v Speaker 1>real special and in the most respectful way. A part

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<v Speaker 1>of me is even like a little jealous man, because

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like I see they can't see you smiling,

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<v Speaker 1>but I see you smile when you talk about your job,

0:22:28.440 --> 0:22:30.680
<v Speaker 1>and to see people get to do what they love,

0:22:31.000 --> 0:22:32.399
<v Speaker 1>that you that you never work a day if you

0:22:32.400 --> 0:22:34.359
<v Speaker 1>do what you love. Whatever. The saying is like, you

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<v Speaker 1>look really happy and you look really motivated. Man, So

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<v Speaker 1>thanks so much that I appreciate you, dude, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for giving me the time to talk on the show.

0:22:42.480 --> 0:22:45.359
<v Speaker 1>And it's I mean honestly doing the doing the show.

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<v Speaker 1>And I hope that the people listening to this and

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed it nearly as much as we've enjoyed recording it.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll have you on for a repeat, We'll do a repeat.

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to do a repeat, and and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, talk more wrestling. I felt like every time

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<v Speaker 1>I got going, like I was trying to, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to really put it's you, it's your full You like clue,

0:23:04.320 --> 0:23:07.080
<v Speaker 1>and it's like once once people like clue. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>when there's two people that like wrestling in a poker game,

0:23:09.880 --> 0:23:12.840
<v Speaker 1>Like the one person they kind of like wrestler, but

0:23:12.840 --> 0:23:14.639
<v Speaker 1>if there's another one there, all of a sudden, nobody

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<v Speaker 1>could touch him and they become powerful. And that's what

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<v Speaker 1>we did today. That's right, that's it, and that is it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, give me two wrestling people. I heard Karen

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<v Speaker 1>Coulton's a big fan. Karen is like crazy hard. You

0:23:28.160 --> 0:23:31.040
<v Speaker 1>gotta meet this dude. Man, he's a New Yorker. Um,

0:23:31.119 --> 0:23:34.040
<v Speaker 1>he's working like crazy on succession. But this dude is

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<v Speaker 1>like an encyclopedia. I've seen. He's been kicked out of

0:23:37.080 --> 0:23:38.920
<v Speaker 1>a wrestling he threw a beer a big show. He

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<v Speaker 1>got so mad one time and got thrown out of

0:23:41.119 --> 0:23:43.920
<v Speaker 1>a wrestling show. They made up. Um. I watched him

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<v Speaker 1>wrestle the Miss at WrestleMania and Arizona. When Brett harton

0:23:48.480 --> 0:23:51.040
<v Speaker 1>O Whole Heart Family came in on Vince Um. They

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<v Speaker 1>wrestled for forty minutes in our hotel room and it

0:23:54.280 --> 0:23:57.080
<v Speaker 1>was like a shoot match almost, and and then Karen

0:23:57.440 --> 0:23:59.720
<v Speaker 1>lays down finally and miss pins him for the one

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<v Speaker 1>too three, a forty minute match. Bro, Like he was

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm sure he still loves it, but back then,

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<v Speaker 1>like he was so hardcore. Bro. He had a closet

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<v Speaker 1>full of like the action figures and like chose them over.

0:24:11.880 --> 0:24:13.600
<v Speaker 1>His girlfriend at the time was like, I'm not getting

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<v Speaker 1>rid of those yuk bouts and she did, and he

0:24:15.880 --> 0:24:19.960
<v Speaker 1>was glad. He's a gangster. Bro. I love this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta you know what's crazy. It's my favorite show

0:24:22.760 --> 0:24:26.040
<v Speaker 1>Succession and I can say and not only is it

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<v Speaker 1>that the absolute truth, but I can also say that

0:24:28.680 --> 0:24:31.080
<v Speaker 1>and put it over because the media partners with HBO

0:24:31.280 --> 0:24:34.440
<v Speaker 1>and TNT, so it's like its synergy. But it's also

0:24:34.560 --> 0:24:36.760
<v Speaker 1>really my favorite show. It's even my dad's favorite. I

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna say, there's gotta be a like an odd

0:24:39.560 --> 0:24:43.360
<v Speaker 1>connection for you there, because there is that huge patriarch

0:24:43.480 --> 0:24:46.280
<v Speaker 1>father figure and then the son that wants today I'm

0:24:46.280 --> 0:24:47.720
<v Speaker 1>gonna do my thing but I want to make you

0:24:47.760 --> 0:24:49.840
<v Speaker 1>proud at the same time, you gotta connect to that

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<v Speaker 1>big time. Kendell never had wrestling Like Kendel never had

0:24:54.880 --> 0:24:56.920
<v Speaker 1>that thing in his life that he could go do

0:24:57.200 --> 0:24:59.800
<v Speaker 1>because what was he supposed to do? Like I never

0:25:01.080 --> 0:25:03.840
<v Speaker 1>this got me apart from my dad where people say, Okay,

0:25:03.880 --> 0:25:07.280
<v Speaker 1>that's Tony, Like that's what because working in football even

0:25:07.320 --> 0:25:10.240
<v Speaker 1>until like working on statistics, even Fulham were I'm the

0:25:10.280 --> 0:25:13.680
<v Speaker 1>general manager and negotiating all the contracts and and taking

0:25:13.680 --> 0:25:16.600
<v Speaker 1>all the heat. Uh, you know, they're maybe a little

0:25:16.600 --> 0:25:18.199
<v Speaker 1>bit more in England, but for the most part, like

0:25:18.640 --> 0:25:22.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm known for being until a w my father's son,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was you know, Kendall and none of the

0:25:25.359 --> 0:25:27.800
<v Speaker 1>Roys really never had that. They never had that thing,

0:25:27.880 --> 0:25:32.920
<v Speaker 1>that project they wanted to do, that they needed. They

0:25:33.000 --> 0:25:35.520
<v Speaker 1>just want the whole thing. They wanted his whole empire,

0:25:35.600 --> 0:25:37.560
<v Speaker 1>the whole business. None of them ever sent their teeth

0:25:37.600 --> 0:25:41.000
<v Speaker 1>in the one thing. And I mean, you know, Kendell

0:25:41.080 --> 0:25:44.000
<v Speaker 1>never had that. Roman never had that, and uh and

0:25:44.080 --> 0:25:47.720
<v Speaker 1>she had never had that, and obviously Connor never had Roman.

0:25:47.840 --> 0:25:49.399
<v Speaker 1>Roman is going to be the one that starts the

0:25:49.440 --> 0:25:55.080
<v Speaker 1>indie company well. Season eight succession what's crazy to mean

0:25:55.119 --> 0:25:57.920
<v Speaker 1>about success? But my favorite show, Karen Holkin is like

0:25:58.000 --> 0:26:01.000
<v Speaker 1>so this crazy wrestling band. I've heard Nick bron is

0:26:01.040 --> 0:26:05.359
<v Speaker 1>also a big wrestling fan. Plays cousin Greg and you

0:26:05.400 --> 0:26:08.879
<v Speaker 1>know who is I have yet Now I'm really excited

0:26:08.880 --> 0:26:11.159
<v Speaker 1>to meet him. He's been he's common. He was a

0:26:11.200 --> 0:26:13.240
<v Speaker 1>guest in our board room, but I had not gotten

0:26:13.240 --> 0:26:16.160
<v Speaker 1>to go see him in person. Jeffy Armstrong is a huge,

0:26:16.160 --> 0:26:23.119
<v Speaker 1>full of fan really this season Take Older Yeah, yeah,

0:26:23.520 --> 0:26:25.720
<v Speaker 1>And I cannot believe that's I'm such a huge fan

0:26:25.760 --> 0:26:28.360
<v Speaker 1>of his his work, so it really excited to meet

0:26:28.400 --> 0:26:30.600
<v Speaker 1>him too, because it's such a great show. But the

0:26:30.640 --> 0:26:34.560
<v Speaker 1>connections and it's such a small world they it really is,

0:26:34.800 --> 0:26:37.400
<v Speaker 1>and it keeps getting smaller this circle. Um. I think

0:26:37.440 --> 0:26:40.120
<v Speaker 1>Karen's best actor on the network period. Like the work

0:26:40.119 --> 0:26:42.399
<v Speaker 1>he's put up the last two years. You can put

0:26:42.440 --> 0:26:46.200
<v Speaker 1>up against anybody and you ain't gonna say someone did better. Incredible,

0:26:46.320 --> 0:26:49.080
<v Speaker 1>He's one of the He's amazing. He's one of the

0:26:49.119 --> 0:26:51.560
<v Speaker 1>best actors on television right now. I totally agree the

0:26:51.720 --> 0:26:54.280
<v Speaker 1>Roman character. I could I could watch the session all day,

0:26:54.320 --> 0:26:57.000
<v Speaker 1>all night. Well there you go. We went from wrestling

0:26:57.480 --> 0:27:02.720
<v Speaker 1>to clue to Madeline, con to Glenn, close to Growing Pains,

0:27:03.240 --> 0:27:09.800
<v Speaker 1>to Succession and the Circle before what Yeah, what, especially

0:27:09.880 --> 0:27:12.320
<v Speaker 1>because I think somebody who is close to it was

0:27:12.320 --> 0:27:17.960
<v Speaker 1>close to your your father was Gary Schandler, and that

0:27:18.000 --> 0:27:19.840
<v Speaker 1>was the best show. My wife and I used to

0:27:19.840 --> 0:27:22.200
<v Speaker 1>sit in bed and watch it together all the time. Man,

0:27:22.520 --> 0:27:25.280
<v Speaker 1>all the damn times that show. And I still do.

0:27:25.480 --> 0:27:27.600
<v Speaker 1>I think there's like, that's the show when I have

0:27:27.800 --> 0:27:30.560
<v Speaker 1>like reflective moments, like at the beginning of the pandemic,

0:27:31.080 --> 0:27:32.960
<v Speaker 1>I watched so much stuff to try and get a handle,

0:27:33.040 --> 0:27:35.639
<v Speaker 1>like what are we gonna do? What I'm gonna do?

0:27:35.720 --> 0:27:40.520
<v Speaker 1>The shows? And I watched Letterman with no audience during

0:27:40.560 --> 0:27:42.720
<v Speaker 1>the hurricane, and I was like, this is what only

0:27:42.800 --> 0:27:45.120
<v Speaker 1>Dave could do this. It was David Denzel and an

0:27:45.119 --> 0:27:46.760
<v Speaker 1>empty studio, and I was like, this is what I

0:27:46.800 --> 0:27:48.680
<v Speaker 1>don't want to do because I don't think any would

0:27:48.800 --> 0:27:54.159
<v Speaker 1>pull this off. It was I'll be honest with you.

0:27:54.280 --> 0:27:56.959
<v Speaker 1>I was looking forward to it because sometimes the crowds

0:27:57.000 --> 0:28:00.000
<v Speaker 1>make me mad. And about three minutes and I was like, yeah,

0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:03.280
<v Speaker 1>I was wrong. This needs a crowd and it needs

0:28:03.359 --> 0:28:06.040
<v Speaker 1>one right now. And I hope they screamed super loud,

0:28:06.560 --> 0:28:07.879
<v Speaker 1>Well you might have heard me told us throwing in

0:28:07.880 --> 0:28:11.119
<v Speaker 1>another show, but like, because that's the thing that I

0:28:11.119 --> 0:28:13.320
<v Speaker 1>I was, So I was digging deep watching stuff. I

0:28:13.320 --> 0:28:15.200
<v Speaker 1>watched a bunch of Larry Sanders, so I'm trying to

0:28:15.240 --> 0:28:19.240
<v Speaker 1>get introspective. That's what I watched. And uh. And then

0:28:20.119 --> 0:28:26.439
<v Speaker 1>he's such a self hater though careful people on the internet, like,

0:28:26.520 --> 0:28:30.120
<v Speaker 1>nobody hates me more than I hate myself and uh,

0:28:30.119 --> 0:28:31.879
<v Speaker 1>and it's like I'll never see me on TV more

0:28:31.880 --> 0:28:33.840
<v Speaker 1>than a minute or two making an announcement like in

0:28:33.840 --> 0:28:36.639
<v Speaker 1>the hundred twenty seven episodes, the only times I've ever

0:28:36.680 --> 0:28:38.560
<v Speaker 1>gone out there were announced the Ring of Honor, just

0:28:39.640 --> 0:28:43.000
<v Speaker 1>say goodbye to Brody Lee and seven episodes I've shown

0:28:43.000 --> 0:28:46.400
<v Speaker 1>my face for me five minutes total, and you know,

0:28:46.560 --> 0:28:51.920
<v Speaker 1>out of thousands and thousands. So um, I there's a

0:28:51.920 --> 0:28:55.120
<v Speaker 1>lot of that like uh in me and also already

0:28:55.520 --> 0:28:59.520
<v Speaker 1>like trying to keep everything together. Uh. And then Hank,

0:28:59.640 --> 0:29:04.680
<v Speaker 1>which is like anybody in your life that like every well,

0:29:05.760 --> 0:29:08.520
<v Speaker 1>we're rough on Hank, but we love Hank. But there's

0:29:08.560 --> 0:29:12.040
<v Speaker 1>one hand comes through It makes it all. And so

0:29:12.120 --> 0:29:16.120
<v Speaker 1>I love Larry Sanders, but um, and I would watch that.

0:29:16.240 --> 0:29:18.120
<v Speaker 1>But the other thing I really watched. It helped me

0:29:18.200 --> 0:29:20.800
<v Speaker 1>in the Pandemic was Um one of my friends is

0:29:20.840 --> 0:29:26.160
<v Speaker 1>a writer for Fallon, and they had the staff and

0:29:26.240 --> 0:29:29.800
<v Speaker 1>crew in the audience for the for the Pandemic episodes

0:29:29.840 --> 0:29:32.960
<v Speaker 1>at the beginning, and it set them apart from the

0:29:33.000 --> 0:29:36.400
<v Speaker 1>other talk shows because even though he made only had

0:29:36.480 --> 0:29:39.040
<v Speaker 1>a dozen what you couldn't see at least there was

0:29:39.080 --> 0:29:43.040
<v Speaker 1>some laughter. Though that's it. It was of the utility

0:29:43.280 --> 0:29:45.280
<v Speaker 1>of a fall audience, and that's what I realized. It

0:29:45.360 --> 0:29:48.000
<v Speaker 1>was like, if I put a small audience of the

0:29:48.040 --> 0:29:51.760
<v Speaker 1>crew and wrestlers around the rain, that's gonna have Mostly

0:29:51.800 --> 0:29:53.800
<v Speaker 1>it's not gonna be quite as good, but it'll be

0:29:53.840 --> 0:29:57.800
<v Speaker 1>the best thing. It's better than just nothing. You don't

0:29:57.800 --> 0:30:00.240
<v Speaker 1>want to be in a funeral home watch in wrestling, man,

0:30:00.320 --> 0:30:03.560
<v Speaker 1>like you want to. You want some energy. Man, I'm

0:30:03.680 --> 0:30:05.720
<v Speaker 1>we're about to side quest again and go on for

0:30:05.760 --> 0:30:08.160
<v Speaker 1>another three hours. We have to do another episode, but

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<v Speaker 1>I want to thank all of our listeners. I want

0:30:10.520 --> 0:30:15.600
<v Speaker 1>to thank you, and this has been the most pleasantly

0:30:15.680 --> 0:30:18.240
<v Speaker 1>jealous I've been in a very long time. So thanks

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<v Speaker 1>now in the in the best possible way. I love

0:30:20.360 --> 0:30:23.160
<v Speaker 1>what you're doing and it makes me wanna It makes

0:30:23.160 --> 0:30:25.040
<v Speaker 1>me wanna reach out more. You know what I mean?

0:30:25.040 --> 0:30:28.280
<v Speaker 1>It makes me wanna stretch, stretch more, wings like that.

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