Speaker 1: Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy.
Speaker 1: We are to Breakfast Club. Lona Rosa is hanging out
Speaker 1: with us this morning. Yes, indeed, and we got a
Speaker 1: special guest in the building. Yes we have Nicole Avon. Welcome,
Speaker 1: thancome to thank you.
Speaker 2: It's good to be bad.
Speaker 1: How are you feeling?
Speaker 2: Great? New book, new book, new.
Speaker 3: New film, new forward, new forward.
Speaker 2: Everything's new. Thank god, it's a It's so yeah.
Speaker 4: The paperback version I Think You'll Be Happy is now
Speaker 4: out and my husband Ted Sarandos wrote the forward and
Speaker 4: it is a beautiful addition to the book, and it
Speaker 4: became a best seller again and I'm just so happy
Speaker 4: because the legacy continues.
Speaker 2: And but it's.
Speaker 4: Through Ted's lens, which was great because Ted was with
Speaker 4: my father with the Black oul Father when he crossed
Speaker 4: over to the other side, and it was really ted
Speaker 4: like I had left the room and said to Ted,
Speaker 4: we're going to switch places now. And the crazy thing
Speaker 4: is is the six Triple eight was the last moment
Speaker 4: I had with my father. Tyler Perry had just sent
Speaker 4: me one of the last, you know, cuts of the
Speaker 4: film and he said, Okay, take some notes, we're ready
Speaker 4: to lock and my father was in the other room,
Speaker 4: and I thought, I was no, I don't want to
Speaker 4: bother him, and I could just feel Holy Spirit saying,
Speaker 4: what do.
Speaker 2: You mean bother him?
Speaker 4: Go sit with him? So I said, Daddy, here's the
Speaker 4: movie that you told me to finish.
Speaker 2: Here's the movie.
Speaker 4: And he's laying there and he gets all the way
Speaker 4: to the end and the song The Journey is playing,
Speaker 4: and Diane Warren wrote the song. Her sings the song beautifully.
Speaker 4: It just got nominated, by the way for an Oscar.
Speaker 4: And I was able to look at my father after
Speaker 4: everything's done, of course crying, and I went over to him, and.
Speaker 2: That's when I said my goodbye. Wow.
Speaker 4: I was like, you know what, Daddy, You've had the
Speaker 4: best journey. You've journeyed here for ninety two and a
Speaker 4: half years. You've done so much for your people, You've
Speaker 4: done so much for America, You've done so much for
Speaker 4: the world.
Speaker 2: You can go be a piece now. You you what
Speaker 2: a journey? What a journey?
Speaker 3: With any response or anything, he just he.
Speaker 2: Did he he he.
Speaker 4: Get he opened his eyes and there was a slight smile,
Speaker 4: but I saw the peace come over him. Because I
Speaker 4: kept saying, Daddy, don't hang out for me. I know
Speaker 4: you wanted Everything's done. The book is done, the film
Speaker 4: was done. Remember, because he had said to me after
Speaker 4: my mom died, after she was killed, I didn't want
Speaker 4: to finish anything.
Speaker 2: Why would you?
Speaker 4: So I'm thinking I'm done, and my father every day,
Speaker 4: you're going to finish that book, You're going to finish
Speaker 4: this movie.
Speaker 2: Life goes on. You have to.
Speaker 4: Of course you need to grieve. Of course you're going
Speaker 4: to be sad. But you can't give your power away.
Speaker 4: You can't give your light away.
Speaker 2: You can't.
Speaker 4: This darkness came into our life. You can't be consumed
Speaker 4: by the darkness. You better take this light and figure
Speaker 4: this shit.
Speaker 2: Out and be an avant. And this is what we do.
Speaker 2: He's like, you know how hard my life was. You
Speaker 2: know what I went through.
Speaker 4: I was picking cotton at five, I was picking tobacco
Speaker 4: at five. I was doing this. I was bounced around.
Speaker 4: I was so it was and he said, he goes,
Speaker 4: and you owe us that. You kind of owe us
Speaker 4: your life. You can't let your life force go. So
Speaker 4: all that to say, it took three years for me
Speaker 4: to be sitting here now in a much different, more peaceful,
Speaker 4: absolutely position of healing. You know, grief never goes away,
Speaker 4: but it does get lighter as you go because you
Speaker 4: learn how to manage it. Last time I was here,
Speaker 4: you know, right, you know, right after the hardcover came out,
Speaker 4: I was still in a state of shock and sadness.
Speaker 4: No much, however much I was trying to hide it,
Speaker 4: I was still shaking inside.
Speaker 3: That's right. Why did you leave the room, Like, why
Speaker 3: did you into twitch places?
Speaker 4: Because I said, I could tell my father didn't want
Speaker 4: to leave in front of you know, well, first of all,
Speaker 4: I heard I don't know if you guys have experienced,
Speaker 4: but it's called the death rattle where you hear it
Speaker 4: sounds like someone's choking.
Speaker 2: It's it's not you know, it's it's scary. It's that
Speaker 2: rattle where the body is actually shutting down. And so he's.
Speaker 4: Trying to breathe and I and it's just so painful.
Speaker 4: So I knew, and I could tell though that he's
Speaker 4: trying to hang on. And I was like, daddy, Daddy,
Speaker 4: you can go. I'm gonna be okay. I'm gonna be okay.
Speaker 4: So I said, let me, let me, I'm gonna go
Speaker 4: get a glass of water. And then I went out
Speaker 4: and looked at Ted. I said, you know what, maybe
Speaker 4: you should go in now and say your gabyes and
Speaker 4: then we'll do it together.
Speaker 2: And then the next thing.
Speaker 4: And then I just knew once Ted went in, he
Speaker 4: was gonna be different, and he was. Ted played music
Speaker 4: Ted all of a sudden, I said, all of a sudden,
Speaker 4: it all my I was the little Catholic boy again
Speaker 4: in school. And he goes and I started saying my
Speaker 4: prairies because I hadn't said them in years. But they
Speaker 4: listened to Duke Ellington, Quincy Jones, Frank Sinatra, everybody. They
Speaker 4: just he played. He sent Clarence out, held his hand
Speaker 4: and they had their beautiful moment.
Speaker 2: You know. They were very very close.
Speaker 4: And my father and Ted's dad didn't understand really what
Speaker 4: Ted did for a living.
Speaker 2: He grasped it, but he didn't really. But my father
Speaker 2: was like, wait a minute, you're what at Netflix?
Speaker 4: And what is Netflix gonna do? And he's my father
Speaker 4: has watched Ted from fifteen years. When I came into
Speaker 4: Ted's life skyrocket and become CEO, my dad was there
Speaker 4: during the whole rise, you know, so it was he
Speaker 4: got this promotion. Then he got another promotion and Clarence
Speaker 4: would sit with him and then I'd watch him do
Speaker 4: his numbers thing and write on the paper, you got
Speaker 4: to ask for this, you gotta do this.
Speaker 2: Where do you want to see yourself in five years?
Speaker 2: Who are you hiring? What are you doing? You know?
Speaker 2: Are you going around the world. It was so great
Speaker 2: for Ted.
Speaker 5: Ted he had the ultimate chicole. You could tap Clarence
Speaker 5: Avon anytime you want for advice, right, yeah.
Speaker 6: I don't understand, so you call it Clarence avan that's yeah.
Speaker 4: And you know Ted would say, which you got to
Speaker 4: get him all next time? He's like, how come I'm
Speaker 4: not at.
Speaker 2: The breakfast cut with you?
Speaker 4: Said right now, We're going to have it next time.
Speaker 4: But you know it's a funny you said that. It's
Speaker 4: because Ted said when he was dating me, he went
Speaker 4: to lunch with my father. He said, everybody kept coming
Speaker 4: to the.
Speaker 2: Table, and I'm thinking, well, who is this? What is
Speaker 2: going on?
Speaker 4: It goes everybody kept coming to kidster Gooz. I knew
Speaker 4: of him, he said, but I did not understand the
Speaker 4: impact of him, he said. And I had black people,
Speaker 4: white people, men and women saying he changed the course
Speaker 4: of my life. He changed the direction of my life.
Speaker 4: He opened this door, he closed this door, he made
Speaker 4: sure the contract was right. I mean, it was all
Speaker 4: of a sudden, Ted's thinking, this man was one of
Speaker 4: the architects of the entire entertainment business. Absolutely, and I
Speaker 4: don't know his name, and my friends don't know his name,
Speaker 4: and I'm pissed. So Ted went out and was telling
Speaker 4: everybody he said, that's why we got to make.
Speaker 2: The Black Odfather.
Speaker 6: Oh okay, yeah, because when I watched that and I
Speaker 6: heard about the story, I figured you might have push
Speaker 6: forward more because it's your family's legacy. But your husband
Speaker 6: happens to be at Netflix, so you have that right.
Speaker 6: I mean, Notenli, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: You can pick up that.
Speaker 6: Phone and call him, so you're like, oh, let's make
Speaker 6: this work. But hearing that he in real time was
Speaker 6: like people need to experience and.
Speaker 4: Really, Reggie Hudler and I had been working on The
Speaker 4: Black op Father for so long, or at least talking
Speaker 4: about it, and it was great because David Geffen a
Speaker 4: long time ago, my dad kept saying, I'm just going
Speaker 4: to write a book.
Speaker 2: I don't want to be in a movie. I'm going
Speaker 2: to write a book. And David Geffen's like, no, one's
Speaker 2: going to believe that he was right.
Speaker 4: I said, Daddy, if we put this in words, who's
Speaker 4: we're going to talk about all these experiences and all
Speaker 4: the things that you did. People need to hear Bill
Speaker 4: Withers say it. People need to hear Hank Aaron tell
Speaker 4: the story. People need to hear Bill Clinton tell this.
Speaker 4: Otherwise everyone's gonna say, oh, yeah, that really happened.
Speaker 2: Okay. So it was so great that everyone came together.
Speaker 4: And then Ted every time I'd come home and I'd
Speaker 4: have my little check, It's like, you got that person
Speaker 4: for the dog is said yeah, this person said yes, yes,
Speaker 4: Clive Davis is coming on.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 4: Ted's like, oh, no, we're doing this. We have to
Speaker 4: cement this legacy. And Ted knew that. That's the way
Speaker 4: my parents raised me. They raised me.
Speaker 2: They gave me black history mostly through music and film.
Speaker 6: Wow.
Speaker 4: You know, there was a lot of stuff in the house,
Speaker 4: of course, the art and things, but my parents would
Speaker 4: have me watch you know, a lot of whether it
Speaker 4: was Lili's and the you know, to start with love
Speaker 4: or lilies in the field or guess who's coming to
Speaker 4: dinner all Sydney plate first, you know, and then go
Speaker 4: to the Dutchman in all these films, and even.
Speaker 2: Birth of a Nation, which is horrific to watch, but
Speaker 2: you need to watch it. You need to learn so
Speaker 2: that you could.
Speaker 4: Say that shit was really happening, and thank god it's
Speaker 4: not now, do you know what I mean? It's there
Speaker 4: was so much It was easier for me to digest
Speaker 4: history through entertainment, which is why we were able to
Speaker 4: tell so many stories in The Black Godfather that I
Speaker 4: don't think would have resonated with people if it was
Speaker 4: on separately.
Speaker 3: Right now, that a little bit of what Tedd said, Yeah,
Speaker 3: in the Ford he said.
Speaker 5: And Nicole's father, my father in law, Clarence Avont, the
Speaker 5: Black Godfather, came directly from the hospital.
Speaker 3: To live with us.
Speaker 5: The next few years were like a gift from the universe,
Speaker 5: cosmic payback for the pain of the few weeks in
Speaker 5: twenty twenty one that changed all our lives. Clarence was
Speaker 5: a role model in business and in life. Every meal
Speaker 5: together was a masterclass cheating. He didn't say that.
Speaker 3: I said that.
Speaker 5: I had spent time with him over the years, heard
Speaker 5: the stories, witnessed the reverence the world had for Clarence,
Speaker 5: and met the folks whose lives were impacted by him,
Speaker 5: Bill Wizs, Hank Aaron, Presidents Barack Obama and Bill Clinton,
Speaker 5: Andrew Young, and countless executives whom he created opportunities for
Speaker 5: and shepherded, and his remarkable life and career. He was
Speaker 5: a man who demanded fairness and justice in the world
Speaker 5: that was often short on both. He loved music and
Speaker 5: history and made both, spending time together in the last
Speaker 5: years of his life. Field avoid for me that the
Speaker 5: loss of my own father had created.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 5: I hadn't been in town when my father departed, but
Speaker 5: I was in the room when Clarence did.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, wow. I know I'm already getting like, well,
Speaker 2: how are you doing. Yeah, I'm good.
Speaker 4: I miss him a lot, but I'm really I feel
Speaker 4: very blessed to have had a soul like that. I mean,
Speaker 4: Clarence to me was one of the most powerful souls
Speaker 4: I've ever met. I've never met anybody like that, I
Speaker 4: really haven't. And to know that, I to just feel
Speaker 4: every single day I feel his presence, and just the
Speaker 4: knowing of this soul raised me, and this soul gave
Speaker 4: me a toolbox, and he that's the best gift he
Speaker 4: gave me, which was, here's a toolbox. All this shit's
Speaker 4: gonna happen in life. Grab this tool for this, Grab
Speaker 4: this tool for this. The resentment comes, drop it, this comes,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: He was able to. He was just such a master
Speaker 2: of how life works.
Speaker 4: And he was so big on you know, his big
Speaker 4: saying was you come with a number and you end
Speaker 4: with the number, and in between that is your dash.
Speaker 2: What the f are you going to do with your dash?
Speaker 4: It's yours and your choices and your decisions are going
Speaker 4: to determine your life period. Because he said, you've already
Speaker 4: seen it.
Speaker 2: It's like Tyler Perry just posted I can't repost you
Speaker 2: because I thought it was so good. We have the blueprint.
Speaker 2: We have the blueprint.
Speaker 4: We have seen everybody, especially in the Black race, who
Speaker 4: has shown us what they did, how they had to
Speaker 4: go through it, how they overcame things, how they thought
Speaker 4: about things, how they strategized.
Speaker 2: You have a blueprint, but we have to use the
Speaker 2: blueprint not just be you know, be fueled by it.
Speaker 4: And I just the times that I you know, my
Speaker 4: dad always reminded me you know, again, everybody is going
Speaker 4: to leave this earth, Nicole, every that's the one thing
Speaker 4: we all have in common.
Speaker 2: Nobody gets to pass.
Speaker 4: So do as much as you can with your life
Speaker 4: and experience as many things and as many people as possible,
Speaker 4: and try to do good and make a different wherever
Speaker 4: you are and whatever you do in life, because everybody
Speaker 4: is important.
Speaker 6: So when you talk about your father passing, there's a
Speaker 6: there's a sense of peace, and you know, you guys
Speaker 6: got to spend the time. Your mom's situation was a
Speaker 6: lot different, and in this book you talk a lot
Speaker 6: about that night when everything happened with your mom. When
Speaker 6: did you get to a point even where you weren't
Speaker 6: angry about what happened with your moms?
Speaker 2: I would say.
Speaker 4: There was probably it's probably about six months in fairness there.
Speaker 4: I remember the fourth I remember it was April. It
Speaker 4: was right before Easter, and I had one huge outburst
Speaker 4: again with one of my father's best friends out him
Speaker 4: and I called him.
Speaker 2: And I was furious.
Speaker 4: I was still screaming, crying, trying to fire things out,
Speaker 4: and everybody was great, law enforcement was great. Everybody was
Speaker 4: we're gonna help you, We've got this. But every day,
Speaker 4: I kept forgiving, forgiving, forgiving for myself, not for the person.
Speaker 4: Didn't condone the behavior, don't condone violence. I don't condone
Speaker 4: any of that. But I knew I hate what happened
Speaker 4: so much that I knew if I got stuck in
Speaker 4: that hate or stayed in that hate, then I was
Speaker 4: not going to be able to finish Think you'll be happy.
Speaker 4: I was not going to be able to make the
Speaker 4: six triple A. I wasn't even gonna be able to
Speaker 4: be a good human being because I was going to
Speaker 4: be a bitter human being. That's what I thought. The
Speaker 4: demon of the bitterness was gonna kill me. It felt
Speaker 4: like it was strangling me, and I was.
Speaker 2: Like, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 4: So I just went through the grief, and the grief
Speaker 4: you kind of have to carry it with you. He
Speaker 4: doesn't go anywhere, so you carry it with you and
Speaker 4: then you learn how to manage it, and it does
Speaker 4: get lighter and lighter. But it gets lighter because I
Speaker 4: chose to let go. Every day I had to ask
Speaker 4: God for grace, ask God for wisdom and guidance, and
Speaker 4: then say I cast these burdens.
Speaker 2: I'm going to cast the burden of anger. I cast
Speaker 2: the burden.
Speaker 4: Of resentment and bitterness just so I can move forward,
Speaker 4: not to condone the behavior, but just so.
Speaker 2: I want to move forward in my life. I want
Speaker 2: to live my life.
Speaker 3: I was going to ask about the movie.
Speaker 1: I know we talked about it and breezed over it
Speaker 1: a little bit, but let's get into the movie a
Speaker 1: little bit as well, because that's all on streaming on Netflix,
Speaker 1: the sixth Triple Eight. So break down the movie, and
Speaker 1: I mean people are seeing it on Netflix.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it well.
Speaker 4: I think it's been number two on Netflix globally, which
Speaker 4: is huge for this type of filming, in all black
Speaker 4: casts female World War two movie. It was great, Thank you.
Speaker 4: I learned a lot, and that's why I wanted to
Speaker 4: tell the story. So the story came to me. It
Speaker 4: was my fellow producer, Carrie Seelig. She's she sent me
Speaker 4: a sizzle reel and she said, listen, I know that
Speaker 4: you've probably heard of the six Triple Eight, but you
Speaker 4: know I don't know if you know the whole story,
Speaker 4: which I didn't. I you, I heard of Major Charity Adams.
Speaker 4: I did not know about the battalion. I just didn't.
Speaker 2: And I went to my mom.
Speaker 4: I said, how can you eve time you told me
Speaker 4: about Charity Adams And she said, I told you about them,
Speaker 4: you're not remembering. But you must tell this story, Nicole.
Speaker 4: This is such an important part of American history. And
Speaker 4: so the story basically, there's all these black women. They're
Speaker 4: you know, a part of the US Army, and there's
Speaker 4: seventeen pieces seventeen million pieces of mail that have not
Speaker 4: been delivered to the troops and no one can do it.
Speaker 4: Men had tried to do it. Everyone kept trying to
Speaker 4: do it. They couldn't get the seventeen pieces of mail.
Speaker 4: So they decided, you know, winking, I will give to
Speaker 4: these black girls. Let's see if they could do it.
Speaker 4: We'll give them six months. Of course, they did it
Speaker 4: in three. But everyone's thinking, you know, Tyler, all of
Speaker 4: us were thinking, Carrie, how are we going to tell
Speaker 4: this story about the male But it's not about mail.
Speaker 4: This story is about humanity. The story is about winning
Speaker 4: the war. This story is about connection, and this story
Speaker 4: is about resilience and being excellent. That's what I love
Speaker 4: about these women. This battalion decided to be excellent, and
Speaker 4: they were excellent even when things were unfair, unkind, not
Speaker 4: just not right. They didn't wait for things to be perfect,
Speaker 4: to be excellent and to show up strong.
Speaker 2: And they were patriots and you know, in a.
Speaker 4: Country that really wasn't giving them their flowers or giving
Speaker 4: them anything, and they still chose to show up and
Speaker 4: rise up on eyeside. Wait a minute, this story is
Speaker 4: a great part of American history.
Speaker 2: It's a great part.
Speaker 4: Of World War II history that none of us really knew,
Speaker 4: and it's great for black women. And I wanted to
Speaker 4: celebrate these black women. And we had missus King, who
Speaker 4: passed away right.
Speaker 2: Before we put out the film.
Speaker 4: But Tyler, being Tyler, made sure he got the film
Speaker 4: to her and he watched it with her, and she
Speaker 4: was able to say thank you, wow, and she was
Speaker 4: able to leave this earth knowing that the world was
Speaker 4: going to know their story.
Speaker 2: One of the eight members, did Ebony get any time
Speaker 2: with her?
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, did Ebony get any time with Miss King?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 4: And well, all of us for sure did a zoom
Speaker 4: with her in the very beginning so she could thank
Speaker 4: us and we could ask her questions and so and
Speaker 4: I'm I'm not sure if Ebanie went to go visit
Speaker 4: her physically but I know they spoke and connected and yeah,
Speaker 4: there's I think there's two more, maybe two more surviving members.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just incredible.
Speaker 4: I loved the story and full circle moment is my mom,
Speaker 4: like I just said, she said, go take do this film.
Speaker 4: That was three weeks before she died. And then my
Speaker 4: father it's the last thing I showed him. So for me,
Speaker 4: this film is extra special because it's a full circle
Speaker 4: moment with my parents, you know, and just started with
Speaker 4: my mom saying, please go do this movie. And it
Speaker 4: ended with my dad and you could tell that he
Speaker 4: was just so happy she did it and put this
Speaker 4: story out and this is what this is what I
Speaker 4: always wanted you to do.
Speaker 1: I think the city And who's an actress.
Speaker 3: In the movie, so people, yes, you played Lena King. Yeah,
Speaker 3: her name is Lina, Lina King.
Speaker 2: Yes, Derek Cott, Yeah, yeah, Lena Derekcott. Yeah, I was.
Speaker 5: I think this movie is so important because man, when
Speaker 5: you look at what this administration is doing, and you
Speaker 5: look at what you know, people are doing all across
Speaker 5: the country in regards to just trying to erase our history.
Speaker 3: This might be the only way these stories get told.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: It's interesting you say that because I think art and
Speaker 4: film and TV, all of it.
Speaker 2: I think it's the best.
Speaker 4: Way to keep our history alive, or all history alive,
Speaker 4: any history alive. Is that's why there's so many movies.
Speaker 4: I would say about World War two and every other
Speaker 4: war is it's very important to tell the stories in
Speaker 4: the very creative way. And that's the one medium that
Speaker 4: usually brings more people together than not. And that's why
Speaker 4: these stories have to we have to continue to talk
Speaker 4: about all them.
Speaker 2: I'm happy that you know.
Speaker 4: I always knew the Tuskegee Airmen, and that's why I
Speaker 4: was so pissed that I didn't know the six Triple eight.
Speaker 4: And not taking anything away from the Tuskegee Airmen, but
Speaker 4: I'm like, well wait a minute, these black women will
Speaker 4: win the war too, in a different way. But if
Speaker 4: you have, it's like exactly what Missus King said. If
Speaker 4: you have, I mean Charity Adams, if you have, if
Speaker 4: you have low, if you have no mail, there's low morale.
Speaker 2: And if you have no morale, you're not a winner.
Speaker 2: You can't win, you.
Speaker 1: Can't fight, you're.
Speaker 4: Fighting for nothing. You need to know that you have,
Speaker 4: your wife is home waiting for you. Your husband, your father,
Speaker 4: your mother, your children. You need human connection. There is
Speaker 4: no email, no WiFi, no Facebook, no nothing. They have
Speaker 4: the US Postal Service. And that's what I think is
Speaker 4: so phenomenal of what these women were able to accomplish.
Speaker 4: And by the way, overseas again, not even going to
Speaker 4: different states in America, let alone at different different countries.
Speaker 6: Y'all did a good job of showing that parallel too,
Speaker 6: because the one girl in the movie who her actual
Speaker 6: like significant other, he went away to the war and
Speaker 6: she hadn't heard from him, so she was like frustrated.
Speaker 6: It really showed like why because I was watching it
Speaker 6: with people who were like, but they're only doing male
Speaker 6: to your point, But then when you saw her storyline,
Speaker 6: it's like, that's why the male was important. I think
Speaker 6: that helped, like that overarching storyline helped you understand the
Speaker 6: importance of their job too. I thought that that was
Speaker 6: a great peace. I don't know if you guys did
Speaker 6: that on.
Speaker 4: We did, but thank you because it's because Tyler was like,
Speaker 4: we have to really show why. Yeah, and it actually
Speaker 4: did happen, but it's to your again. Everyone said, oh,
Speaker 4: it's just the male, but it's really not just anything.
Speaker 4: It's communication, right, it's humanity, And but we didn't get
Speaker 4: that until that scene that you're talking about. Yeah, and
Speaker 4: it does make a huge difference. That people need to
Speaker 4: see the power of human connection and the power of
Speaker 4: your Why why is somebody doing something?
Speaker 2: Why is somebody being so committed to.
Speaker 4: They were also trying to prove themselves. They were also
Speaker 4: trying to plant seeds. Again, for all of us to
Speaker 4: be sitting here doing what we're doing, you don't have
Speaker 4: to be in the armed forces. I think people we
Speaker 4: all have to remember everybody in our history and everybody
Speaker 4: before us, they knew they weren't going to see their
Speaker 4: fruits of their labor.
Speaker 2: There wasn't you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: There were so many people who still fought for civil rights,
Speaker 4: knowing that they may not get their rights, but we
Speaker 4: were worth it.
Speaker 2: Then when we came along, we would have our rights.
Speaker 4: That is what I respect so much about people who
Speaker 4: were never going to receive any benefits and still said
Speaker 4: I'm doing this because it's the right thing to do.
Speaker 3: That's right. Y'all were nominated for Best Original Songs.
Speaker 4: That mean, yes, oh my gosh, well, it's amazing because
Speaker 4: twofold again because Clarence comes in here again.
Speaker 2: Because my dad and Diane Warren have been friends forever.
Speaker 4: Wow, and the fact that it's Diane who wrote the
Speaker 4: song and then her singing the song, it's so great.
Speaker 4: But that's what I was able to say to my
Speaker 4: father when he was passing over. I said, Dad, you know,
Speaker 4: here's your journey. Go on your journey. You had such
Speaker 4: a great journey, I said, And of course, guests who
Speaker 4: wrote the song, Diane Warren, I said, your girl who
Speaker 4: likes to curse just as much as you. That's how
Speaker 4: they became friends, because he said, I've never met somebody
Speaker 4: who drops an fbom more than me, faster than me.
Speaker 2: But she's brilliant, right, She's a brilliant songwriter.
Speaker 4: And I was just so happy that this is this
Speaker 4: is the category that we got an OSCAR nomination, and
Speaker 4: I was like, Okay, I'll take this because this song
Speaker 4: is everything and the song really makes the move.
Speaker 2: I don't know how you felt, but I thought the
Speaker 2: song was just perfect.
Speaker 6: It was a lot of good stuff that was entertwined
Speaker 6: into a song. I think the costuming was great. I
Speaker 6: thought that was important to especially when he got off
Speaker 6: the I'm telling too much.
Speaker 2: About that march.
Speaker 6: No, but in the march, Yeah, that was such a
Speaker 6: powerful moment. And I think as a like as a
Speaker 6: black woman, for me, when they were doing that march,
Speaker 6: I was like, I feel that because there's a lot
Speaker 6: of times where you just got to like, you know,
Speaker 6: like you're powerful, but you gotta like let other people
Speaker 6: assert it for you. And that march was that.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 6: It's a really good movie.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 4: You know, every single test screw that we did the march.
Speaker 4: It could be white men, black men, Asian women, this
Speaker 4: that children, that march.
Speaker 2: There's nothing is said.
Speaker 4: Everyone gets moved, people cry, people are moving around their
Speaker 4: seats because it stirs up.
Speaker 2: The underdog and everybody.
Speaker 4: It's the March, and it's that power of I know
Speaker 4: I'm being underestimated, no one believes in me, but I'm
Speaker 4: about to show you.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Laura said something that I want you to expose on
Speaker 5: the call because you are a powerful woman, you know.
Speaker 5: She said, when you're a powerful woman, you have to
Speaker 5: often have to let other people assert it for you.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 3: Do you feel you feel that way?
Speaker 2: I understand that. Mm hm. I do understand that it's
Speaker 2: a you know, it's so funny.
Speaker 4: I remember being in a meeting once and I looked
Speaker 4: at this man and he said, well, why you you
Speaker 4: know we believe in this. I said, you know, I
Speaker 4: do have a brain and it does function.
Speaker 2: I'm just in case you guys didn't know that I
Speaker 2: do have a functioning brain. But it's true, you go
Speaker 2: into it.
Speaker 4: It's so conditioned by everyone that sometimes people have to
Speaker 4: go before you and just assert it for you, and
Speaker 4: in a different way. Even when I became ambassador, it
Speaker 4: was my friend Charlie who said, I said, no, no, no,
Speaker 4: I don't want to do I'm doing this. I'm going
Speaker 4: back to the record business. I know what I like
Speaker 4: to do. I'm done with this. And he looked at
Speaker 4: me like, really, you've outdone so many other people who
Speaker 4: are demanding to have all these roles, and you earned it.
Speaker 4: And so Charlie said, I'm gonna put your name in
Speaker 4: just ree, I'm about to do this. And it's interesting
Speaker 4: how I just didn't.
Speaker 2: Even realize that I wasn't really.
Speaker 4: Stepping into You're full you, my full me, my whole
Speaker 4: life force, my whole thing. I just didn't realize, you know,
Speaker 4: And it's it's I think we have to just remind
Speaker 4: ourselves all the time.
Speaker 2: Of of course I'm gonna try it.
Speaker 4: It's I don't want to give my half, meaning I
Speaker 4: want to give all of me and people take it
Speaker 4: or leave it. But we should all feel comfortable enough
Speaker 4: with our life force to show up as best.
Speaker 2: We can and as much as we can.
Speaker 4: Not dim our light because it makes other people feel uncomfortable.
Speaker 4: I mean I used to do that a lot growing up, Like, oh,
Speaker 4: I don't want to say this, Oh I don't want
Speaker 4: to say this. No, there's just you're just dimming your
Speaker 4: light for what And you're taking your energy down to
Speaker 4: make other people comfortable, and then the only one that's
Speaker 4: hurt in the end, you Yeah, they don't care.
Speaker 2: If they feel more comfortable or not.
Speaker 4: And then I feel like shit when I get home
Speaker 4: because I dimmed myself and I shrunk myself.
Speaker 5: Becoming your full you is interesting though, because sometimes other
Speaker 5: people see things in you that you don't see yourself,
Speaker 5: and I.
Speaker 2: Think we need Yeah, but I think that.
Speaker 4: Sometimes I think there's a flip side and a good
Speaker 4: side to that too. I think that there's a you know,
Speaker 4: like my father, for example, I think he saw he
Speaker 4: was very good at seeing talent and seeing people that
Speaker 4: could really change things, and they just for example, Hank Aaron.
Speaker 2: I don't think Aaron was, you know, insecure.
Speaker 4: I think he was never just thought of, oh, I
Speaker 4: should be getting endorsement deals.
Speaker 2: I just don't think he ever thought of it.
Speaker 4: And Clarence comes along and was like, I don't even
Speaker 4: know who you are, but if you're about to break
Speaker 4: break Baboos record, you definitely need an endorsement deal. But again,
Speaker 4: my father saw things in people that they sometimes didn't
Speaker 4: see for themselves, and then he made magic for them.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: He would always say people tell black people to just
Speaker 4: run your erase, run your erase, and he goes a
Speaker 4: mother thing to everybody is well, we can't.
Speaker 2: Even get on our marks.
Speaker 4: Let us get on our mark and then let us
Speaker 4: But if you're going to take our mark away, don't
Speaker 4: you dare tell anybody just run your race.
Speaker 2: You know, you can't say pull up your bootstraps. You
Speaker 2: don't have boots on. Ah, you know, get it together,
Speaker 2: and we have to remind people.
Speaker 4: But knowing your history, even if you're the only person
Speaker 4: at the table, I always tell people, know as much
Speaker 4: as your history, just know as much as you can,
Speaker 4: so that when you are at a table or when
Speaker 4: you're with people that don't know any of it, you
Speaker 4: could be the one instead of worry about I'm the
Speaker 4: only black person at this table, be so proud I'm
Speaker 4: the only black person at this table. And then when
Speaker 4: they're talking about certain inventions and talking about this and that,
Speaker 4: you could say, oh, well, you know, this black scientist
Speaker 4: did this, and this black inventor did this, and this
Speaker 4: person did this, and they happen to be black, and
Speaker 4: people don't know that. And it is a superpower that
Speaker 4: my mom gave me that I have used all my
Speaker 4: life and.
Speaker 2: It it does feel great.
Speaker 4: Just because everybody else doesn't know it doesn't mean that
Speaker 4: I'm not going to express it. Kind of to your point,
Speaker 4: everybody else is talking about it and their light is
Speaker 4: up and their vibration's up, and oh, I'm not going
Speaker 4: to mention this scientists because they may not know George
Speaker 4: Washington Carvery may they may not know Elijah McCoy, or
Speaker 4: they may not know somebody. Well, I'm just gonna tell them, well,
Speaker 4: this is why we say we want the real McCoy.
Speaker 4: I like why, I'm like, well, good, you know, and
Speaker 4: then you tell the story and then everyone has that
Speaker 4: Oh I didn't know. And so that's where the power
Speaker 4: does come from knowledge and information and it is powerful
Speaker 4: and to use it in the best way is kind
Speaker 4: of how we move forward, especially women, just really knowing
Speaker 4: everything who we are and being rooted and grounded in
Speaker 4: real power versus I always say, there's real power, and
Speaker 4: then there's power adjacent.
Speaker 2: I'm not interested in the power adjacent. I'm not. You know,
Speaker 2: there's and that's the pride and we all fall into
Speaker 2: that too. You know.
Speaker 4: My father says everything that I had lost it all
Speaker 4: in one fell swoop. You know why, because I had
Speaker 4: pride and my ego was too big. And then he
Speaker 4: was able to share that with music, and then I
Speaker 4: was able to pick myself up and I was able
Speaker 4: to start to have you records and I was able
Speaker 4: to bring Jimmy jam and Terry Lewis.
Speaker 2: He goes all.
Speaker 4: Before that, I got too erring itt and I started
Speaker 4: doing too many things, radio station, this TV show that
Speaker 4: out of focus, lost everything. He goes, and you know,
Speaker 4: it's like my grandmother used to say, you know, pride cometh.
Speaker 2: Before the fall. It's just it does. And to all
Speaker 2: of us.
Speaker 4: So we all have to remember to try to say
Speaker 4: rooted and grounded, but in real power, in God's power
Speaker 4: and light versus human power.
Speaker 1: When you know, talking to your dad, people always say
Speaker 1: when you lose everything, it makes you a strong individual, right,
Speaker 1: and that you can't be the person that you need
Speaker 1: to be unless you lose everything.
Speaker 3: Did he ever talk about that?
Speaker 4: Yes, he did, Yeah, and he felt that he lost
Speaker 4: a really good question. He felt that he lost everything
Speaker 4: from a very young age. Is all the time he
Speaker 4: was being bounced around, moved around, stepfather kicked him out
Speaker 4: of his house. He was always starting new and losing everything,
Speaker 4: losing a home, you know, and just starting new.
Speaker 2: But it does build character.
Speaker 4: And he'd always say to me every time, every time
Speaker 4: you have a shortcoming in life, every challenge, the real
Speaker 4: power comes from what's the lesson behind it. You don't
Speaker 4: all learn it in the beginning. You just like, oh
Speaker 4: my god, they shut the door because of this. Oh
Speaker 4: this didn't have so But you got to go behind
Speaker 4: it and figure out what you're And if you learn
Speaker 4: the lesson, you get to graduate.
Speaker 2: It's like school.
Speaker 4: You get to get you know, you read a certain level,
Speaker 4: you get to go to the eighth grade.
Speaker 2: You do this, you get to go to high school.
Speaker 2: It goes.
Speaker 4: But if you don't learn as you fall, then you'll.
Speaker 2: Just stay where you are. And he'd love the pivot.
Speaker 4: He'd always say, sometimes you have dreams and shit, and
Speaker 4: sometimes the universe is thinking way.
Speaker 2: Bigger than you. I have to have this.
Speaker 4: I have to be on this radio station, goes, and
Speaker 4: God's trying to tell you you're going to go all
Speaker 4: the way over here and run the station. But you're
Speaker 4: so stuck in your one dream. You have to be
Speaker 4: able to open your dream up and then be able
Speaker 4: to pivot. And then at some point, if you keep
Speaker 4: getting closed doors, just say maybe I'm supposed to go
Speaker 4: somewhere else. And if I am, he goes, just ask maybe.
Speaker 4: But the pivot, he said. People who aren't successful usually
Speaker 4: never get the pivot.
Speaker 2: That's right, he said, they will not pivot. Be Goues.
Speaker 4: I see it all the time, the most successful people,
Speaker 4: and they end up right flatline because they just won't change.
Speaker 4: They won't change with the times, they won't change their
Speaker 4: stubborn ideas.
Speaker 2: Have to be this. And he said, I just tried everything.
Speaker 2: Some of it.
Speaker 4: I was great at some of it I failed. Then
Speaker 4: I figured out what I was good at and just
Speaker 4: kind of say, once he figured out managing was his thing,
Speaker 4: and that's what he was really good at, and he
Speaker 4: can change people's lives.
Speaker 2: That's when he started over.
Speaker 4: And then it was Jimmy and Terry, and then it
Speaker 4: was La and Face, and it was Benny Medina and
Speaker 4: it was because all of a sudden, he's like this,
Speaker 4: this is what I can do.
Speaker 5: I say that to people all the time, Like I
Speaker 5: think folks they like to say, reinvent yourself.
Speaker 3: No, you just got to know when to pivot.
Speaker 2: Pivot. It's not not a reinvention.
Speaker 3: It's just a pivot.
Speaker 2: It's a pivot, you know.
Speaker 4: And it's in the beauty as humans is that we're
Speaker 4: the only animals that could actually do.
Speaker 2: That, you know. So we can change. As soon as
Speaker 2: you change your mind. Think about it.
Speaker 4: As soon as we change our minds, and as soon
Speaker 4: as we start thinking different thoughts, speaking a new way,
Speaker 4: behavior changes right doors open all of a sudden, You're
Speaker 4: in the right place, at the right time, with the
Speaker 4: right people.
Speaker 2: As soon as you change your mind.
Speaker 4: My dad always used to say, keep your mind right,
Speaker 4: keep your mind right.
Speaker 2: And I knew what he means.
Speaker 4: You have to renew it every day your thoughts, O,
Speaker 4: it's never gonna work. It's never gonna work, because so
Speaker 4: why would you expect it to work. It's doesn't this
Speaker 4: science doesn't even the universe doesn't even work like that.
Speaker 4: You tell it it's not gonna work, and the universe
Speaker 4: is gonna be okay.
Speaker 2: I mean why why would it be any way else?
Speaker 4: It doesn't work like that. Life doesn't work like that.
Speaker 4: So he just he just, he said, Nicole, I just rolled.
Speaker 4: I didn't care anybody color. I didn't care this.
Speaker 2: I just my mentors were white. I just rolled, he said.
Speaker 4: And none of my mentors thought, oh, he's going to
Speaker 4: be end up being the black out Father and he's
Speaker 4: going to use all.
Speaker 2: This power that we're giving him people. So that was
Speaker 2: not their intention, he goes.
Speaker 4: I just got lucky and they picked me, and then
Speaker 4: they let me in and taught me things that gave
Speaker 4: me connections, and then I chose to go back and
Speaker 4: try to make a difference for black people, he said.
Speaker 4: But that was my decision on what to do with
Speaker 4: what was given to me, not their intention.
Speaker 5: You know, the name of his book is Think you'll
Speaker 5: be happy, and it's because of something your.
Speaker 3: Mother used to say. Yes, yes, So what is the
Speaker 3: book about mister Avon be titled?
Speaker 2: I know, you know, okay, it's the true story. And
Speaker 2: I think I can curse on this show. Sorry, of course.
Speaker 4: So when I wrote think You'll be happening, I told
Speaker 4: my dad, your daddy, I'm saying, think you'll be happy,
Speaker 4: because this is mommy's last message to me.
Speaker 2: Six hours later I was heard she was shot. And so.
Speaker 4: He said, maybe it's a later you know, maybe I
Speaker 4: should write a book.
Speaker 2: I should write a book. I should write a.
Speaker 4: Clarence save On book. I said, well, what would your
Speaker 4: title be? And he was thinking about it, and then
Speaker 4: he had watched you know, some I don't know what station, MSNBCC,
Speaker 4: and so somebody had said on TV was the black
Speaker 4: person who said, you know, there's been no progress sixty years,
Speaker 4: nothing and on and on and I'm telling you my
Speaker 4: everything in my father his back when I goes no progress, what, Yeah,
Speaker 4: he was like, I'm picking cotton, I'm picking tobacco.
Speaker 2: I'm doing this. There were no rights. You couldn't vote,
Speaker 2: you could do that.
Speaker 4: He went on on. I go, okay, but what's the
Speaker 4: title of your book, I ain't lean's in. He goes,
Speaker 4: You're fucking welcome. That's my that's the title of my book.
Speaker 4: You're fucking welcome by Clarence. Oh my god. He gave
Speaker 4: me all these like I have all the Clarence isms
Speaker 4: written down, and I was like, you know what, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna I'll do that for you. I'm gonna write your book.
Speaker 4: Just now I'm writing it.
Speaker 2: It's so good of just his little nuggets. It's not
Speaker 2: gonna be wrong. It's just clarence Ism right on it.
Speaker 2: Next page of just real nuggets of how to get
Speaker 2: through life. You know, his whole thing. Remember you know this,
Speaker 2: it is what it is?
Speaker 3: Right now?
Speaker 2: What are you gonna do about it?
Speaker 4: And he'd always say, everybody's always like, it is what
Speaker 4: it is. He goes, No, then you.
Speaker 2: Finished the sentence. What you want? What are you going
Speaker 2: to do about it?
Speaker 4: Make a decision of what you're going to do about
Speaker 4: whatever it is.
Speaker 3: And if you're not gonna do nothing, boy, to shut
Speaker 3: the fuck up.
Speaker 2: Shut, he would always say.
Speaker 4: If I and I remember one day I called and
Speaker 4: I needed advice and I was in the Bahamas, and
Speaker 4: I was so feeling sorry for myself.
Speaker 2: I said, but daddy, daddy, I'm crying. He goes, it
Speaker 2: is what it is.
Speaker 4: And I said, can't you just be sensitive for one
Speaker 4: minute and just listen to me. I'm trying to explain something.
Speaker 4: And he said. I said, I know it is what
Speaker 4: it is, but it hurts me. And he said, okay,
Speaker 4: what you gonna do about it? I said, but dad?
Speaker 4: He goes, no, no, no, I'm trying to teach you something.
Speaker 4: You cannot make a constructive decision in chaos.
Speaker 2: So when I say, what are.
Speaker 4: You going to do about it? You got to accept
Speaker 4: what is, don't fight what is. Don't because you don't
Speaker 4: like it. It's not fair. That's going to keep you spinning.
Speaker 2: So it is what.
Speaker 4: It is, accept it like own it it's happening, and
Speaker 4: then sit with yourself. Calm yourself down, tell yourself I'm
Speaker 4: in control of my soul.
Speaker 3: Is well?
Speaker 4: I met control? And then make a decision. Now what
Speaker 4: am I going to do about it? What's your new
Speaker 4: attitude going to be from this? And I'm telling you
Speaker 4: it worked. I calmed down, I said a prayer, I cried,
Speaker 4: I got over the self pity and I focused and
Speaker 4: I was like, Okay, who.
Speaker 2: Do I want to be? Who do I want to be?
Speaker 4: How do I want to s up in this situation?
Speaker 4: It was the best advice he gave me. And I've
Speaker 4: used it throughout my life, you know. And but he
Speaker 4: gave me those little nuggets. And and you're fucking welcome.
Speaker 4: Also was about like, you owe me a life.
Speaker 2: I gave you a life. Live it. You're welcome. All
Speaker 2: of us got here.
Speaker 4: You had parents, every bid, generations of generations of generations
Speaker 4: of people did.
Speaker 2: Not quit, so you got you all definitely.
Speaker 4: Do not have the audacity to just sit and do
Speaker 4: nothing with everything that we went through for you, because
Speaker 4: we had a big dream for you, all of you,
Speaker 4: and and and we do. And you guys, by the way,
Speaker 4: have done a phenomenal job. I mean, I'm looking every
Speaker 4: time I watch I'm thinking, look at all these politicians
Speaker 4: coming on this show, Look at how they're changing the culture.
Speaker 2: Look what you're doing.
Speaker 4: And the truth is this would not this show would
Speaker 4: not have happened twenty years ago, thirty years I'm sorry
Speaker 4: it was wasn't even probably drummed up, do you know
Speaker 4: what I mean?
Speaker 5: I followuprint I never seeing a black man who you know,
Speaker 5: had that type of influence in so many different industries
Speaker 5: and so much respect and so many different And to me,
Speaker 5: that's how you move culture forward for real.
Speaker 4: Yes, and and but that's what you guys have done.
Speaker 4: I mean, I hope you guys really understand. I'm not
Speaker 4: just saying this. I mean it's real, and it's a
Speaker 4: big deal, and it's a big deal for people of
Speaker 4: all colors, all races to tune in and see what
Speaker 4: you create. See who gets to sit in this chair,
Speaker 4: listen to different ideas.
Speaker 2: By the way, I love that you have diverse ideas.
Speaker 4: I love that you have Republicans and Independents and Democrats
Speaker 4: and everybody talking so that people can make an independent.
Speaker 2: Decision on who they are.
Speaker 4: I think that's very very important, especially for black men,
Speaker 4: because I think that black men have always been piggeled
Speaker 4: everybody else. You notice, everybody else gets to be whatever
Speaker 4: they want, everybody, everybody gets to think conservatively.
Speaker 2: I know, everybody else.
Speaker 4: I'm like, wait a minute, hold on, they're black conservative men.
Speaker 4: There are black independent men. There are black liberal men,
Speaker 4: just like every other.
Speaker 2: Type of man. Do you know? And every time I
Speaker 2: turned around, I was at a dinner table.
Speaker 4: That black man's conservative, But why are you hating on
Speaker 4: him because he's conservative? Because the white guy's conservative, the
Speaker 4: Asian guy's conservative, the Hispanic person's conservative.
Speaker 2: But none of you are throwing this person.
Speaker 4: In any shade whatsoever. And I don't know why this
Speaker 4: group only, not even women. I'm talking men, only have
Speaker 4: to think one way. We're not that kind of Everybody
Speaker 4: else thinks different ways.
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean Booker, T. Washington, there are many.
Speaker 4: Remember we all come many of us were a Republican
Speaker 4: in the beginning.
Speaker 2: So I just I don't know what I love that
Speaker 2: you do.
Speaker 4: Again, is I love that I've watched everybody sit in
Speaker 4: this chair and there's different ideas, and I've always taken
Speaker 4: a little piece from everybody. Even if I disagreed with
Speaker 4: ninety percent, there's always that two percent five percent that
Speaker 4: I think I never thought about it that way. Sure
Speaker 4: I agree with that.
Speaker 2: That's what you do, and I think it's really powerful
Speaker 2: what you guys do.
Speaker 5: Thank you, Thank you so much. I do have one
Speaker 5: last question. Six trip late right, that's out on Netflix now.
Speaker 5: You can you can basically probably tell any story you
Speaker 5: want to and get it on Netflix if you want
Speaker 5: it to right, how do you pick which stories you
Speaker 5: want to do?
Speaker 4: I for me, if it's for me personally, I love
Speaker 4: anything that's inspiring, empowering, motivating, and if it's true.
Speaker 2: I love true stories, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 2: I love documentaries.
Speaker 4: Documentaries for me are everything because I think that you
Speaker 4: can teach people again, like I say, through film and art.
Speaker 4: It's so important for me to tell something that people
Speaker 4: will be moved by and people will leave that room
Speaker 4: saying I didn't know that, or.
Speaker 2: I feel so good about this, or I don't care
Speaker 2: about that. That's what I care about.
Speaker 4: Empowering people, motivating people, aspiring people. Any kind of script
Speaker 4: that I get that's like that, that's those are the
Speaker 4: stories that I want to tell that move culture forward
Speaker 4: and have people thinking even in a different way than
Speaker 4: they ever have before.
Speaker 2: But that's what I love making people.
Speaker 4: I want people to feel good, and I want people
Speaker 4: to feel positive, and I want people to feel hopeful
Speaker 4: and also be educated in ways. You know, if I
Speaker 4: don't like I said, we both said, like, oh my god,
Speaker 4: I didn't know this story. And I love the response
Speaker 4: around the world about the six triple eight of every
Speaker 4: response is I had no idea number one. And then
Speaker 4: the second response is and now I could feel that
Speaker 4: I could do anything. Or I've sat with my children
Speaker 4: and I've watched us with my children, and this has
Speaker 4: been great. I mean, I was on Brett Baer Show
Speaker 4: on Fox and they were so supportive of the six
Speaker 4: Triple A and it was so great that this.
Speaker 2: Story is just resonating.
Speaker 4: That's what I mean is every everybody wants to talk
Speaker 4: about this film because it's important and it's it's a
Speaker 4: great piece of history that everyone should know.
Speaker 3: Well, thank you for joining us this morning. That's right, Trip.
Speaker 1: You can check it on Netflix right now. It's streaming now.
Speaker 1: And the book I Think You'll Be Happy is out
Speaker 1: right now, right now.
Speaker 3: Well afford by Ted. Saranda tell Ted we do want
Speaker 3: him up there?
Speaker 2: Yes, well Ted will Ted will love it.
Speaker 3: He's great, Okay, but.
Speaker 1: We'll see you again when, yes, when the other book
Speaker 1: comes out. Please all right, Nicole Avon, good morning, thank
Speaker 2: You, thank you,