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Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of Hurdle. I am Emily a body.

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Speaker 1: This week I'm chatting with Candace Hafei, who I really

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Speaker 1: I'm here with Candice Huffein, a model who you may

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Speaker 1: journey and designer and creator of Day One amazing in

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Speaker 1: itself because correct me if I'm wrong. It's the only

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Speaker 2: This is what I hear, it is it is. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't aware of when we started the brand that

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Speaker 2: also maybe like turns on a light bulb for other brands.

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Speaker 2: There are other active where brands who have a plus

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Speaker 2: size or an extended size range. But what sets Day

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Speaker 2: One apart is that it's the same collection throughout from

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Speaker 2: same regardless of what size she is. There's no like

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Speaker 2: the same things if you go above a certain size

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Speaker 2: snafoo and all of that jazz that we like always

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Speaker 1: I love that you're just jumping into giving me all

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Speaker 2: Why not, right, let's take a pit stop here. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm into that. So I gave a little bio about you.

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Speaker 1: Why don't you tell me about how you got into modeling,

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Speaker 1: because that started around age fifteen?

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Speaker 2: to back up to when I was fifteen. I'm thirty

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Speaker 2: so many things that I learned from that experience though.

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Speaker 2: In that like that fifteen year old girl was awesome

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Speaker 2: well maybe I can't, maybe I shouldn't. Maybe I'm not

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Speaker 2: I was just like, I'm here, world. You brought up

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Speaker 2: but you need to lose twenty pounds. I was fifteen

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Speaker 2: I got offered a contract as a plus size model

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Speaker 2: Like just stay and have fun, and like it's not

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Speaker 2: I had no idea that I was technically plus sized.

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Speaker 2: I didn't see that as an issue or I didn't

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Speaker 1: To me a little bit about being quote unquote what

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Speaker 1: from designating Yeah, absolutely word plus size. You don't call

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was. It was something I didn't want

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Speaker 2: found that was very as a fifteen year old girl,

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Speaker 2: why have you just told me that this way? When

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Speaker 2: I feel great and fine about who I am, but like,

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Speaker 2: which is I spent decades struggling to get out of.

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Speaker 2: And not because I was ashamed to be called plus size.

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Speaker 2: But because because I was labeled with this, it limited

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Speaker 2: So because you told me who I am, like, you've

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Speaker 2: it's completely unnecessary and a woman can be plus and

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Speaker 2: I think it's society, it's the industry along these like

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Speaker 2: two decades have really screwed up what that definition means

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Speaker 2: for a woman, and they've made it a really bad

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Speaker 2: and they made you think that it was bad to

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Speaker 2: be plus. So we've been working we I say, we

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Speaker 2: like all the girls in this industry, and we've all

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Speaker 2: been working to blur these lines because they're so unnecessary

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Speaker 2: by someone else.

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Speaker 1: I also think that more and more brands are open

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Speaker 1: to the blurring of these lines, that they want to

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Speaker 1: work with women of all shapes and sizes, and it's

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Speaker 1: totally more in vogue now not to have you know,

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Speaker 1: a size zero across the board runway, but you.

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Speaker 2: Have to because now, I mean, there's so many different

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Speaker 2: ways women can express themselves that if you don't serve

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Speaker 2: doesn't feel represented, she's going to let you know. And

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Speaker 2: then basically like you're on the shit list, because they're

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Speaker 2: not going to stand for being forgotten. Like we've been there,

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Speaker 2: done that. We're in like you know, we're empowered. We're

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Speaker 2: enough is enough. So if a magazine or a company

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Speaker 2: actually sell to or take money from, then they're going

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Speaker 2: to hear because that one is not standing for it anymore.

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Speaker 2: two or three years into our relationship, and I noticed

433
00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,480
Speaker 2: a huge difference in him, and he was like just

434
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:48,280
Speaker 2: more motivated, happier, lighter, like just it was adding in

435
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,480
Speaker 2: what he kind of always was missing. He worked in

436
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,840
Speaker 2: corporate at the time, so he was like just kind

437
00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,480
Speaker 2: of going through the motions, dragging, and he on a

438
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,639
Speaker 2: whim just like added this in and he became like

439
00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:01,480
Speaker 2: completely one eighty different person the better. And I saw

440
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,119
Speaker 2: that happening. And that's how much I didn't have a

441
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 2: relationship with running, Like I saw how it was affecting

442
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,679
Speaker 2: him in a positive way, and I still didn't say, like,

443
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 2: I'm going to join you this time. I just waved

444
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:16,640
Speaker 2: him goodbye and watch Housewives of something and yeah, as

445
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 2: we do. I just didn't even put it just didn't

446
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 2: register with me. And I don't know if it's because

447
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 2: it had It was a choice that I was going

448
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,879
Speaker 2: to have to make electively, and I could have found

449
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,359
Speaker 2: a million other things on the list before that to

450
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 2: do instead, but it's just like there was something about

451
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 2: it that was hard for me to decide to do myself.

452
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Speaker 1: So spoiler alert, at this point in her life right now,

453
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 1: Candice has run two full marathons, So why don't we

454
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 1: get to the spark that actually made you put one

455
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:47,920
Speaker 1: foot in front of the other.

456
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 2: Well, it was from Matt actually, and it was a dare,

457
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:52,879
Speaker 2: so it came in like a very strange form. So

458
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 2: technically like I did make the decision to say yes,

459
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,200
Speaker 2: but it kind of came from an outside place.

460
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Speaker 1: This is interesting because one of the guess that I've

461
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 1: had previously on the podcast, toanay, she started to lose

462
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 1: weight as a dare from a friend.

463
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:10,679
Speaker 2: Weird, right, Like I'm I am a champion for like

464
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 2: you set your mind to it, you can do it.

465
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 2: I want you to be inspired by that. I want

466
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 2: you to know that anything is possible and in a

467
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:21,159
Speaker 2: very backwards way, I couldn't do that for myself. But

468
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 2: sometimes that's why I'm yeah. I mean that's why I'm here.

469
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 2: It's like I don't want that to be a barrier

470
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 2: or like a barrier to entry for anybody else. I

471
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,680
Speaker 2: don't want our own minds to say like I spent

472
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,120
Speaker 2: so long saying I can't do things, or even being

473
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 2: like self deprecating and joking about like why I wouldn't

474
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 2: you know, like everyone's like what is that joke where

475
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,399
Speaker 2: it's like I would only run if the house was

476
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,159
Speaker 2: on fire, or like I only I only run on

477
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,360
Speaker 2: I don't run on days at end and why ha

478
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 2: haa ha ha, like all this crazy stuff like I

479
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 2: was the queen of that. It's like, oh, I'm just

480
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,880
Speaker 2: too I've had too much stuff going on. I just did,

481
00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 2: like you just put it in a in a back

482
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 2: of your mind and then it's like ten years later

483
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:03,719
Speaker 2: and it's still in the back of your mind. So

484
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 2: you've got this, Dare got this, Dare I got this

485
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 2: deer over brunch over Margarita's in Spain. We were on

486
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 2: a trip together at the end of twenty fifteen and

487
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 2: we were just talking about what the next year would

488
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 2: look like, which we always do. We make I guess

489
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 2: resolutions for lack of better word, but I don't like

490
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,119
Speaker 2: to call them that because I feel like if you

491
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 2: do make a resolution, you've, like, I don't know, you

492
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,199
Speaker 2: set yourself up to just like ditch it by February.

493
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 2: So we like to just think of it as like

494
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 2: a whole year plan instead of like starting on January first,

495
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna play guitar. I'm into this. Yeah, So we

496
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 2: were like, let's what does our year look like? What

497
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 2: does twenty sixteen look like? And I was like throwing

498
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:45,399
Speaker 2: out career goals and even like style plans. I'm like,

499
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,400
Speaker 2: you know what I think I'm gonna I'm gonna start

500
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:51,120
Speaker 2: wearing more dresses, like the most random stuff. And then

501
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 2: that's when he said, I dare to run a half marathon.

502
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 2: And so from dare to action? How long was that?

503
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,439
Speaker 2: I mean we went running the next day. I go

504
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 2: for it horrible. I mean, there's photo, like, there's video

505
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 2: of it. I'm cussing NonStop. It's like, bleep, bleep, bleep bleep.

506
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,360
Speaker 2: And we did two miles. We had to do it

507
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:12,679
Speaker 2: in a walk run increment, which is totally fine, but

508
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 2: it was the smallest increment and it was the most complicated,

509
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 2: Like it was just so hard. I was so I

510
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 2: was so not ready for all of that, and I

511
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 2: didn't know that I was going to ever enjoy it.

512
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Speaker 1: To be honest, was the dare the only thing that

513
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 1: kept you going at it for the next day and

514
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 1: the next day.

515
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 2: No, making myself accountable and sharing the information was the

516
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 2: one thing that kept me going. Like once I told

517
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 2: people and made it public, and not even making it

518
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,120
Speaker 2: public on social media, but just sort of making it

519
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 2: a public goal and outward goal even within my own

520
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 2: like friend circle and the running community which whom I

521
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 2: was a part of, but via Matt, I wasn't actually

522
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 2: running with these people, but I would be cheering them on.

523
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 2: So when I really put the wheels in motion and

524
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 2: said hey, this is something I think I'm going to do. One,

525
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 2: I was welcomed with open arms and they were like, oh,

526
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,640
Speaker 2: we've been waiting for you. Let us help you. And

527
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 2: then two it's like, well, now it's there, it's out there,

528
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 2: So what are you going to tell them? You quit?

529
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 2: And that's the thing that I refused to do. It's like,

530
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 2: once you say you're going to do it, you have

531
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 2: to do it.

532
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: Talk to me about that feeling of crossing the finish

533
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,679
Speaker 1: line of your first half marathon, which was the New

534
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 1: York City Half Marathon. Correct, yes, okay, so talk to

535
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 1: me about that feeling.

536
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 2: It was amazing. It was amazing. And the funny thing

537
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 2: is I crossed that finish line and the president of

538
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 2: New York road Runners said to me, full one next,

539
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 2: and I said ha ha never, And I was like,

540
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 2: let me just have this one. And I literally thought

541
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 2: that that maybe just be the one, the one race ever,

542
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 2: and then I would run continue running recreationally.

543
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 1: Here and there, you just said the sentence I'm going

544
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 1: to continue running recreationally.

545
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 2: So you began to like running. Well, yeah, definitely. But

546
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,400
Speaker 2: I figured in the race environment, like maybe that would

547
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 2: be the only big long distance race that I would

548
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 2: ever do, and then I would go back to being

549
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,479
Speaker 2: like a two miler or something like that occasionally. But

550
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 2: what I also found about myself in this journey, in

551
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 2: this process, was that I need a goal to look

552
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 2: forward to and to plan for. Otherwise there's something about

553
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 2: my personality or my character that like won't And that's

554
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 2: maybe why the dare was so effective as well, that

555
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 2: I still will find a way to kind of put

556
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 2: other things first as priority, even though I know that

557
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 2: running is what should be at the top of the

558
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 2: list because it makes me feel the best.

559
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: So obviously, so many hurdles involved with becoming a model

560
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: in an industry when you're not a size zero, right,

561
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: But you effectively say that this moment, this half marathon

562
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: is kind of where your hurdle moment really begins.

563
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,679
Speaker 2: Oh definitely. I mean you think that it's as simple

564
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 2: as like, and it is you put one foot in

565
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 2: front of the other, you cover distance, you're running, you're

566
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 2: a runner, like you've laced up, you're out there at

567
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 2: your runner. You did it. It's all the other things

568
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,679
Speaker 2: that come into play that became the most vital for

569
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 2: me and what really kept me attached to the sport

570
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 2: instead of just being like, Okay, great that was that

571
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 2: was a great race. That's the end of that, and

572
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 2: now I'm just gonna I'm going to be a jogger

573
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 2: who goes out like three times a week. One. I

574
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 2: needed to set other goals. I always say, like, set

575
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,360
Speaker 2: small goals among your bigger ones, because that is what

576
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 2: you can Also one, celebrate small victories because you can

577
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 2: actually reach them, attain them, like you need to set

578
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:33,360
Speaker 2: them in order to keep the drive going, because otherwise

579
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 2: you're going to say, five years from now, I'm going

580
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 2: to run a marathon. What are you going to do

581
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 2: in the in between that's going to let you know

582
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 2: that you can get there, or to boost your spirit.

583
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 2: I needed the race high again almost because it's what

584
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 2: really pushed me, and it was a validation of what

585
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 2: I can do. And I think that in my life

586
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 2: I had never really given myself an opportunity to set

587
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 2: and reach a goal and prove to myself something.

588
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 1: So when you set and reach goal and you finish

589
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: this half marathon, how did this kind of rub off

590
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: in other areas of your life.

591
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 2: It was a little bit of an AHA moment because

592
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, damn, we can do Like anything is possible.

593
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 2: Like if me, the non runner of non runners who

594
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 2: never thought she could do it, never gave her a

595
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 2: chance herself a chance to do it. Basically was like

596
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 2: I was very hard on myself, like no, no, no, no, no,

597
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 2: you can't, don't even try. You're not the right size.

598
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 2: People will laugh at you, they'll like you hold people back,

599
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 2: You'll you know, it'll be embarrassing to be out there.

600
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 2: Like I told myself these things unfairly, and I never

601
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 2: gave myself the chance. So it really was an AHA

602
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 2: moment in wanting to share the message with women on

603
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 2: a broader level to say like, wow, I really had

604
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 2: an epiphany here that anything is possible. This is now

605
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 2: how I feel and what it did for my life.

606
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 2: And so if this is something you have ever considered,

607
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 2: let's do this together, because you are going to change

608
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 2: tenfold in the best ways. Possible. Like in my career,

609
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 2: a common question is like how do you find your confidence?

610
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 2: And it's a very hard question to answer because it's

611
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 2: like it's going to be different for everybody. There is

612
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 2: no like step by step guide on what to do.

613
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 2: There is no like time that you need to work

614
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 2: at it before it kind of like shows up like

615
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 2: now I have my confidence. But I will say where

616
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 2: I formally couldn't answer the question almost at all or solidly,

617
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 2: I would say that like when running came into my life,

618
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 2: that was a huge that was the answer almost. It's

619
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 2: like that is what gave me confidence on so many levels,

620
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 2: from the inside out as a businesswoman, as a leader,

621
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 2: as a voice, Like it gave me the confidence I

622
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 2: kind of had always been searching for and I didn't

623
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 2: know that I was. So that's why I wanted to

624
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 2: really like share with women across the board, is that

625
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 2: like if this and it doesn't even have to be running,

626
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 2: if there's something in your life that you've always been

627
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 2: afraid of that you told yourself you can't, please please,

628
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 2: please try, and you'll find that you can. And then

629
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 2: I want you to see how you feel on the

630
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 2: flip side of that, because it changes everything.

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Speaker 1: let's get back to it, all right. I'm back here

656
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Speaker 1: sitting with Candice Huffein, and we are talking about when

657
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Speaker 1: she found her really stellar confidence after conquering that first

658
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Speaker 1: half marathon. And so you're talking about the importance of

659
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Speaker 1: sharing this positive message with other people, which leads you

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Speaker 1: to begin Project Start.

661
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Speaker 2: So talk to me a little bit about Projects Start.

662
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Speaker 2: So I started Projects Start as a viral community to

663
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 2: just share the realities and the honesty of starting this journey.

664
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Speaker 2: I'm not just one woman who started running and deciding

665
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 2: to talk about it as the first ever. You know,

666
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 2: I knew that there was along the way because I

667
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 2: had experienced these women before. They were my driving factors

668
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 2: to continue as well, friends of mine within the community

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Speaker 2: who were willing to share with me one on one

670
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 2: to motivate me. And so I realized we all run

671
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 2: for different reasons. We all start somewhere, we all look different,

672
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 2: we're all reaching the same goal. We're all here for

673
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 2: different reasons, but are feeling a certain way via the

674
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 2: same one common thread of running. And I just wanted

675
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 2: to share. I wanted a platform in which to share

676
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 2: all these different stories so that there will be one

677
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 2: woman out there that can relate to one of them

678
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 2: and that can be the push that she needed. So

679
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Speaker 2: I and this is on Instagram. It's on Instagram. It

680
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 2: was originally started with Women's Running magazine. There's a video

681
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 2: series that was attached to it that's still online from

682
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 2: Project Start on Women's Running. And I tapped four of

683
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 2: my really good running friends who inspired me in my

684
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 2: beginning days to share their story a little deeper and

685
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,320
Speaker 2: the reasons why they run and why they continue. And

686
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 2: I just feel like, and this is what I've learned

687
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 2: from modeling world as well, and for fashion industry, it's

688
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 2: like sharing, sharing, sharing and honesty and conversation is what

689
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 2: drives us to continue. You know. It's like you think

690
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 2: that you're doing this silently and privately on your own,

691
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 2: and yeah, this sport is a singular sport. You're going

692
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 2: to go out and run by yourself. But I want

693
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 2: you to know that there's a ton of us out

694
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 2: there who are feeling the same, who have gone through

695
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 2: the same. We can laugh about it or cry about

696
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 2: it or whatever together and you really aren't alone. And

697
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 2: I think that was something that I was missing. When

698
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Speaker 2: I started to run, I had a very small core

699
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 2: group of girls who really helped me. And I don't

700
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 2: even think they know that they were really actively helping

701
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,800
Speaker 2: me at the time, but the fact that they shared

702
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 2: a little deeper than just like, oh, come on, you

703
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 2: can do it, and then you're like, but how like

704
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,399
Speaker 2: this hurts and I don't think I can ever make

705
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 2: it past this point and I don't think that my

706
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 2: body can do this, or you know, you need a

707
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 2: little bit more. Because at the end of the day,

708
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 2: I learned, of course we can do it. We can

709
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 2: all do it.

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Speaker 1: But and this has so much I mean, this is

711
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 1: so much bigger than and as you mentioned in modeling,

712
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: but also bigger than running in that everything from going

713
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: through a breakup to learning how to play guitar for

714
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Speaker 1: the first time.

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Speaker 2: Like other people, how other people have done all of

716
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 2: these things. I know, I know. But the thing is,

717
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 2: I think we I think we're ashamed to admit that

718
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 2: we're not perfect, right, I was just going to say

719
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 2: that in a total like the exact same sentiment. It's

720
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 2: that we only portray this like visual of perfection in

721
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 2: anything we do, in our Instagram, in magazines, in like,

722
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 2: you know, in the fitness world, it's always like this

723
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 2: top top top athlete on the cover of a magazine

724
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 2: and you're like, well, then I don't know if I

725
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 2: can actually read that running magazine because I'm not a

726
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 2: runner like that. I'll never be a runner like that.

727
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm not even a runner at all, you know.

728
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 2: And there's just so many questions you battle with. It's like, damn,

729
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 2: it shouldn't be this complicated, Like we should be proud

730
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Speaker 2: of of whatever stage we're in, and let's be honest

731
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 2: about it. Let's talk about it and know that you're

732
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 2: You're not abnormal in any way. I don't want anyone

733
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Speaker 2: to ever think that running looks a certain way or

734
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Speaker 2: is a certain way and that they can never be that.

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Speaker 2: And that's just with running obviously in particular, but it

736
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 2: goes into all other.

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Speaker 1: Things definitely, definitely. So a quick note, Project Start is

738
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Speaker 1: not at project Start on Instagram.

739
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 2: It's at PS you Got this, PS you got this?

740
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 2: If you are looking to find it, yes, please do.

741
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: Outside of Projects Start, I want to talk a little

742
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: bit about your active wear line Day one. Yes, So

743
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: where did Day one kind of come from?

744
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 2: So there's a lot in the short amount of time

745
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,399
Speaker 2: we're really trying to charge through yet no, not even

746
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 2: in this time segment, but just in a span of

747
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 2: two years. So all of it brought on by running.

748
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 2: I don't mean to be like hokey, but it's like, really,

749
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 2: you know, I do honestly say running change my life.

750
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 2: But it's because it opened my eyes to so much

751
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 2: possibility and to being a part of this bigger community.

752
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 2: I mean, I was in like fashion bubble for so long,

753
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 2: and it's like fitness Bubble actually could use my voice

754
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 2: as well, and so I really wanted to come in

755
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 2: and leave a mark that I felt like was missing

756
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 2: in a way, or things that I knew that I

757
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 2: needed as a beginner who has conquered these races and

758
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 2: these milestones in a short amount of time, who's trying

759
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 2: to encourage other women to do the same thing, because

760
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 2: the way that I feel wouldn't have come from anything else.

761
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 2: And in that that time, an opportunity was presented to

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00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 2: me to partner with a local manufacturer to create an

763
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 2: active wearline, which was something I hadn't thought of prior.

764
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 2: How Whoever, ironically was struggling to dress myself for said

765
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 2: races that I was always entering like there was always

766
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Speaker 2: kind of for me a difficulty in comfortability. It's like

767
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 2: I have to cover this distance, but like I have

768
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 2: to turn back around because my pants are falling down

769
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 2: now because they are they're ill fitting, they weren't the

770
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 2: right size to begin with, and or this bra is

771
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 2: like killing me. So there was like I found that

772
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:31,919
Speaker 2: there was so many setbacks to even go. Yeah, as

773
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 2: if the whole sport's not hard enough as it is,

774
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 2: but in the beginning, it's like then you're contending with

775
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 2: all this other unforseeable stuff that you would never know

776
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 2: from the dressing room, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, talk to me about what goes into creating an

778
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: active where aligning man.

779
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 2: Uh fit and trial and error. Yeah, I mean I

780
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 2: like to always laugh and say, like when I tell

781
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 2: you that the stuff is tried and tested, it is

782
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 2: like I ran the Boston Marathon in these leggings. I

783
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 2: ran the New York Marathon and these leggings, like I

784
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,399
Speaker 2: knew that if I was going to put my name

785
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 2: on something from doing what I have done in the past.

786
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: And you're wearing them just for people, all ooh, as

787
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Speaker 1: I injure my guest, nice.

788
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 2: Thank you I just knew that I didn't want to

789
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 2: just add things for the sake of adding things or

790
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 2: for putting my name on something like, I really wanted

791
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 2: to serve an underserved market, and specifically in the size

792
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 2: ranging in that I'm a size twelve. I struggled to

793
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Speaker 2: find a high performance, quality pair of leggings that I

794
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 2: could run thirteen miles or twenty six miles in until

795
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 2: I made them myself. Not to be like bigheaded about it,

796
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 2: but it's like there was a quality factor or an

797
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 2: availability factor that dropped off after a certain size, because

798
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 2: I think that there's an assumption that that woman wasn't

799
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 2: working out or doing any like high performance activity. So

800
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 2: there was active where available, but it wasn't what I

801
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 2: needed to get me the distance for a long amount

802
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 2: of time, or to even to train it in to

803
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 2: sweat and to really like work hard in.

804
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Speaker 1: So you work with this local manufacturer, yes, and concept

805
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: the pieces that you really feel like are missing. Yes,

806
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: When does it click that you found the right product? Like,

807
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 1: how do you know that you hit a home run?

808
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 2: Well, I well, when I ran the Boston Marathon. So

809
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 2: also let's backtrack, just.

810
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: Because how did you go from running the New York

811
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: Half and this is in March. Yes to knowing that

812
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: about a year later you would run a full marathon.

813
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,399
Speaker 2: Right, Well, I didn't know because that was not ever, ever,

814
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 2: ever on my list. And that there we go with

815
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Speaker 2: me crossing the finish line of the very first race

816
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 2: and Michael saying, okay, so the next so next one

817
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 2: full and I was like, get out of my face

818
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 2: with that. Yeah never never. I didn't have that oh

819
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 2: my god, I can do anything attitude until I crossed

820
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 2: the bus in marathon finish line. Like I was lured

821
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Speaker 2: into running the race because I was asked to be

822
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 2: a part of a sponsored team for the race of

823
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,280
Speaker 2: women who would share their stories, who would share their journey,

824
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 2: and that was something I was so passionate about obviously,

825
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 2: is like taking women along on this very honest, real

826
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 2: ride with me of like how I'm going to get

827
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Speaker 2: myself to the start line, how I'm going to train

828
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Speaker 2: for this, what I'm going to feel, what I'm going

829
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 2: to think. So I was all gained for that, I

830
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 2: just did not know how I was going to do

831
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:23,720
Speaker 2: twenty six miles.

832
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Speaker 1: What was the most difficult part of training for your

833
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 1: first full marathon?

834
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 2: The time I mean the time. I feel like that's

835
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,760
Speaker 2: the reason why we don't start any of these new

836
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 2: goals or skills or anything as adults, is because we

837
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 2: never feel like we actually have the time to do it.

838
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 2: A lot of opportunity cost. Yeah, I was well, yeah,

839
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,240
Speaker 2: I was traveling a lot for work. I still travel

840
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:47,919
Speaker 2: out for work. And I think it was just such

841
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 2: a new lifestyle for me to try to add in

842
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 2: all of this intense training schedule. That was something I

843
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 2: really struggled with. But I did it, and I restructured things,

844
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 2: and I made it a priority, and and I was prepared.

845
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 2: I was ready to be there. I think that's one

846
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 2: of the mental things that come into it.

847
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: We're recording this about a week before I run the

848
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: Boston Marathon, which is crazy, and I think it's so

849
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: funny because you spend at least about three months training

850
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: for said race, and you still, in the days and

851
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: hours leading up to it, feel like you are so

852
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 1: ill prepared. But the reality is is that you've put

853
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: in the work totally.

854
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 2: Your body is ready. Your body can do it, Your

855
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 2: body is ready to do it. You just got to

856
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 2: show up for yourself, like your feet know how to

857
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 2: do that. It's just yeah, showing up for yourself. And

858
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 2: even on the ride, I remember so well on the

859
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 2: ride up to Boston. I think I went up on

860
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 2: like the Thursday before, and I remember in the car

861
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 2: being like, what am I doing? Why am I? I

862
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 2: don't belong here? I don't belong being here. And this

863
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 2: is Canda's pre finish line of Boston Marathon. I honestly

864
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 2: say that like everything changed when I cross that finish line,

865
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 2: Like I literally made a vow to myself as soon

866
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 2: as I crossed it. I said, I will never tell

867
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 2: myself I can't do something again because look what I

868
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:06,399
Speaker 2: just did.

869
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: So day one going back, and also note that day

870
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 1: one is day one wo n Yes, something important to me.

871
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 2: Yes. I didn't realize in creation of the brand how

872
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 2: often I would I would say the same line over

873
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,240
Speaker 2: and over again. Day one won wo. And I still

874
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 2: see people like working out out in their heads and

875
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 2: they're like, what does she say? Day one itself also

876
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 2: would have a powerful one. Oh well, my Day one

877
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 2: is the one is I remember forever? It changed everything.

878
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,919
Speaker 2: The day I officially like made this goal to set

879
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 2: out was my life changer. So that actually, like our

880
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 2: logo is a that's not an arrow really. I mean

881
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 2: it's like it's an arrow, but it's also a Candice

882
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 2: is looking down at the tank. So there's a lot

883
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 2: of meaning. And I also like I was thinking of

884
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 2: of doing some play on numbers of like the date

885
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 2: that I started running or something, because that's where I

886
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 2: can really timeline everything back to as being the catalyst

887
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 2: for the new me. Let's say, like say Candice two

888
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 2: point zero. Implementing running into my life and making it

889
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 2: a priority and actively getting out and doing it changes

890
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 2: the way I feel as a person. It makes me

891
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,479
Speaker 2: feel like that day is more exceptional than the days

892
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 2: that I didn't run. So it always just gives you

893
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,240
Speaker 2: like an extra boost, and that's when you really feel

894
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 2: like you've crushed it. Yeah, I want it. So that's

895
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 2: something that I really wanted to make sure other women

896
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 2: like kind of have in the back of their mind,

897
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 2: is like, we're so busy doing everything else and giving

898
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,439
Speaker 2: to everyone else that sometimes we're not at the top

899
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,919
Speaker 2: of our own lists. And so I want a woman

900
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,240
Speaker 2: to sort of just stop along the along the way

901
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 2: because of this brand and say to herself, did I

902
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 2: win this day? And then if the answer is no,

903
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 2: she can make some changes in order to like make

904
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 2: sure that she feels like she conquered it and crushed

905
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 2: it and feels like her best self for the day.

906
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 1: How long from conceptualizing this brand to it being it's

907
00:44:56,440 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 1: an e commerce brand to being available for purchase online?

908
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 2: About a year? About a year? Okay?

909
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 1: And did you know when you were starting that you

910
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: were like exactly what items you wanted to make?

911
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 2: Yes? And no. I knew what I was missing just

912
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 2: by personal style in that like I wanted an outfit.

913
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 2: I wanted high performance gear that also could serve as

914
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 2: an outfit if I wasn't running in it. You know.

915
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 2: I wanted like a mix of a street style, something

916
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 2: with the quality that can take you the distance. And

917
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 2: I found that there was kind of a separation in

918
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 2: the two. I had like these leggings that served like

919
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 2: a really cool, cute purpose, but then I also had

920
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 2: like my ones that were for working out very hard in.

921
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 2: And I just wanted the in between of an outfit

922
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 2: that you could feel really cool and proud in and

923
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 2: you could do anything in and then also fit me.

924
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 1: You said something interesting before that was you felt like

925
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: it was really helpful to have these women that you

926
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 1: could ask questions about running. Yeah, and that was at

927
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: the time a very small sample size of women. Yeah,

928
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 1: smaller group of women. How does it feel for you now?

929
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: How many Instagram followers do you have?

930
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 2: Two hundred and ten thousand?

931
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: What's life like when two hundred and ten thousand people

932
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: have access to your day to day.

933
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 2: It's empowering and motivating and stressful. Yeah, only because I

934
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 2: take a great responsibility and that amount of people choosing

935
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 2: to follow the life that I lead and the things

936
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 2: that I say, So I don't take that lightly. And

937
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 2: it's this isn't like a game where it's like, you

938
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 2: know what, let me show you my cleavage that my

939
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 2: follower account can rise. You know, That's not who I am,

940
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 2: and it's not I feel like how I like to

941
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 2: utilize social media. I feel like it's not a self

942
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:51,320
Speaker 2: serving thing for me, Like, look at all that I'm doing.

943
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,800
Speaker 2: It's like, what are we doing together? Because I obviously

944
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 2: not to be cheesy, but we are stronger together. So

945
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 2: it's like, if there's something that I want to sho,

946
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 2: I want to make sure that it's going to help

947
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 2: woman in some way or inspire her in some way.

948
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 2: If there's a question that I have. I know that

949
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 2: the people who are supporting me and there for me

950
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 2: can help me in turn, and so it's a kind

951
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 2: of a full circle. It is a virtual community, I

952
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 2: like to I mean, they're friends. I may never meet

953
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 2: them in my life, but they are friends to me.

954
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 2: They've been really supportive to me and are also a

955
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 2: reason why I'm motivated to do what I do on

956
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 2: a day to day basis because I know that it's

957
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,879
Speaker 2: helped maybe potentially helping someone's life in a positive way

958
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 2: or impacting them. But it's also if I know that

959
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 2: I have this squad behind me, I'm not going to quit.

960
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 2: Then that goes back to the first time I ever

961
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 2: like kind of publicly announced my goal, and that's what

962
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 2: kept me going and feeling accountable. It's like, every day

963
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 2: I feel accountable because people have chosen to come on

964
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 2: this journey with me. I hear you on that stressful note,

965
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 2: so stressful. I'm like, let me make sure this grammar's right,

966
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 2: make sure, let's make sure there's no I don't want

967
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:06,879
Speaker 2: to offend anyone ever. I don't want to. I don't

968
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 2: want to come off as ignorant or oblivious. I don't

969
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 2: want to misspell anything all the thing? What is uh

970
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 2: looking back?

971
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: Before you know you had two hundred and ten thousand

972
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 1: people following you, and even before maybe you ran that

973
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 1: first half marathon. What is one piece of advice that

974
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: you would give to the girl who was sitting on

975
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 1: the couch watching Real Housewives or whatever while her man

976
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: went out and logged the What is one piece of

977
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 1: advice you would give to her?

978
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:38,839
Speaker 2: Am I giving this back to myself? Really? Or this

979
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:40,800
Speaker 2: is you know you can say the next girl is

980
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 2: doing the same thing, because there is nothing wrong with that.

981
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 2: We all need that downtime too, And I don't want

982
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 2: to be hard on myself like I was doing all

983
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 2: the wrong things in life. It's just I My advice

984
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 2: to that girl is stop letting doubt win. And that

985
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 2: doesn't even have to pertain to running. I'm sure some

986
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 2: other things she's sitting on the couch being very fearful of,

987
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 2: and so don't let it win because it's strong. For

988
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,479
Speaker 2: some reason, the fear and the doubt is so much

989
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 2: louder and stronger than the kindness and the confidence and

990
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:19,399
Speaker 2: the positivity. And it's so bizarre how we let that

991
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 2: ring louder and truer than anything else. And I find

992
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 2: the craziest thing is is like we can give the

993
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 2: positive advice to like our friends or our family or something,

994
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 2: we can tell them all the things they need to hear,

995
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 2: and we can never tell it to ourselves. So be

996
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:41,399
Speaker 2: your cheerleader, be your motivator, be the person who dares you,

997
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 2: because there might not be someone who dares you to

998
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 2: do something crazy like I had the opportunity or I'm

999
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 2: lucky enough to have had. But just dare yourself to

1000
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 2: do some crazy things that are going to pay off

1001
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:54,479
Speaker 2: in the most positive way.

1002
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 1: What is a goal that you have for yourself in

1003
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen? Oh and where did the twenty eighteen goal

1004
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 1: setting experience take place for you and your husband?

1005
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 2: Well, we always do it, like at the end of

1006
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 2: the year over dinner. There isn't a huge one like

1007
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen brought. I would say, instead of us listing

1008
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 2: out the things that we want next, we took a

1009
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,399
Speaker 2: second to reflect on the things we had done and

1010
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 2: we're really proud of those. Because you know, you like

1011
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 2: you're rushing, you do everything, you tick the box, you

1012
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 2: move on what's next, and things are hectic. Life is busy,

1013
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 2: and I don't think you really ever like let it

1014
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 2: set in how awesome or like proud you are of yourself,

1015
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 2: and that's what we should also give ours. Like that's

1016
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 2: why I like the little small goals, big wins, small

1017
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 2: victories and all these things, is because you need that

1018
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 2: boost for yourself to be like, damn, I crushed it.

1019
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 2: I'm really really proud of me, Like I didn't see

1020
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 2: that coming. So we did reflect a lot on the

1021
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 2: on the prior year. I mean, we both started companies.

1022
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 2: He ran his first marathon in November. I completed the

1023
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:04,760
Speaker 2: New York City Marathon as well, which.

1024
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 1: Is for those of you that are following at home,

1025
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: this is Candice going from not wanting to run a

1026
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 1: half mare.

1027
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 2: Running two full marathons in one year. That's outrageous. I

1028
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 2: don't know what the rush is, to be honest, but

1029
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 2: I just feel like, I mean, you feel empowered, man,

1030
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 2: that there is there is something that you can't let

1031
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 2: go of when it comes to the feeling you get

1032
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 2: and it's indescribable and you just have to see it

1033
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 2: to believe it.

1034
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 1: What tip would you give someone who is setting out

1035
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: to run their first marathon like this can be anything

1036
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: from a strategy tip to a mental tip to a

1037
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: performance tip.

1038
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 2: Have fun, Just have fun. Yeah, I mean I stress

1039
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 2: myself to no end, to the point where it's like

1040
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 2: so stressed that you're like you have dry mouth and

1041
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 2: your like stomach is hurting and you're like in pain

1042
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 2: and you haven't even started running, Like there's the hard

1043
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 2: part hasn't even started yet, but you're so so so

1044
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:00,359
Speaker 2: scared and of what to be honest, it's like there

1045
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 2: is really nothing, there is nothing to be afraid of.

1046
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 2: We're here. The hardest part's over. You agreed to do it,

1047
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 2: you trained for it, and now you're at the starting line.

1048
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 2: The hardest hurdle or the most mental roadblock is over.

1049
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 2: So now the easy part is just running, and so

1050
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 2: have fun with it and don't be hard on yourself.

1051
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 2: Like we're so judgmental of ourselves and unkind that everyone's like,

1052
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 2: well I didn't I didn't do enough, or it wasn't

1053
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 2: good because xyz or I needed to walk, So what

1054
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:33,280
Speaker 2: crawl if you have to? But you didn't quit. It's crazy.

1055
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: It's crazy to think this episode will go live after

1056
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 1: I run the Boston Marathon. But I'm going into the

1057
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,959
Speaker 1: Boston Marathon for the first time in my life, really

1058
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 1: hoping to get a personal record, and I've never run

1059
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: a marathon with that mentality. So it's like, I feel

1060
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 1: as though it's wonderful to set this goal for myself,

1061
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 1: but it's also really really frightening because I'm the person

1062
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 1: that's set this goal. I'm the person that's also potentially

1063
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 1: setting myself up or failure. I think it takes a

1064
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 1: really strong person to then whether or not that pr happens,

1065
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 1: to grade this entire process as a win and not

1066
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 1: look at it as a failure, right right, right, Which

1067
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 1: brings me to the final question that I want to

1068
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 1: ask you.

1069
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 2: Over the last.

1070
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: Fifteen years of you living in New York City, have

1071
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 1: there been any quote unquote failures or missteps that you

1072
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 1: look back on now you took them really hard in

1073
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 1: the moment, but reflecting on that time, you feel like

1074
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 1: they've done something really really wonderful for you.

1075
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 2: I know you're probably looking for an exact experience, but

1076
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:41,919
Speaker 2: for some reason, I'm just thinking of it like as

1077
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 2: a whole please, and it's over thought, just constant overthinking

1078
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 2: the situation to the point of not doing and that

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Speaker 2: that's career choices. That's opinion sharing or standing up on

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Speaker 2: sort of dictates what even like my day to day

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Speaker 2: looks like if I want to make a doctor's appointment,

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Speaker 2: I have to write an email to ask if I

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Speaker 2: have the time available, Like I'm not really in charge

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Speaker 2: of my own time sometimes, and I think that, you know,

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Speaker 2: standing up on my own without doubt, without fear, and

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Speaker 2: knowing that I'm my own person with a voice took

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Speaker 2: me a very long time to kind of realize. I

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Speaker 2: know that what I'm capable of, I know what my

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Speaker 2: strengths are. I know that I can be a leader,

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Speaker 2: I can I can be a businesswoman, I can be

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Speaker 2: all these things instead of just kind of sitting back

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Speaker 2: like the day is not waiting for you, and you're

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Speaker 2: only going to get older and it's only going to

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Speaker 2: go by faster, and so yeah, just you can't overthink.

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Speaker 2: You can't overthink, can't overthink. I like that.

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Speaker 1: That's a good note to end on. Thanks so much

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Speaker 1: for coming in. Thank you this was fun.

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Speaker 2: I also feel like we need another part because there's

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Speaker 2: just so much to cover.

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Speaker 1: I mean, maybe they'll be PARTO. Thanks so much everyone

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Speaker 1: for joining in and hanging out with me. Please take

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Speaker 1: a moment to leave a quick review by clicking the

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Speaker 1: link with the description to this episode. We all face

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Speaker 1: multiple hurdles in life. I want to hear about yours.

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Speaker 1: Reach out to me at Emily at Hurdle dot us,

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Speaker 1: connect with the podcast on Instagram and Twitter at Hurdle Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Most importantly, Candace, where do they find you? Where do

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Speaker 1: they find day one? Give me everything?

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Speaker 2: Okay, you can find me at Candice Huffine on Instagram. Also,

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Speaker 2: day one is your day one on Instagram, and I'd

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Speaker 2: love you to come check out Project Start as well

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Speaker 2: at PSU. Got this all the stuff, all the handles.

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Speaker 2: I am at Emily Abodi another hurdle conquered. Catch you

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Speaker 2: guys next time. Bataaa