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Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news.

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Speaker 2: Good morning.

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Speaker 1: I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here are the

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Speaker 1: stories we're following today.

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Speaker 3: Karen.

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Speaker 4: The drop in futures, particularly the Nasdaq futures, follows disappointing

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Speaker 4: results from Meta Platforms. Shares of the Facebook parent are

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Speaker 4: down thirteen percent in early trading. Meta forecast weaker than

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Speaker 4: expected sales in the current quarter while targeting higher capital expenditures.

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Speaker 4: Here's CEO Mark Zuckerberg on the company conference call.

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Speaker 5: As we're scaling capex and energy expenses for AI, We'll

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Speaker 5: continue focusing on operating the rest of our company efficiently

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Speaker 5: but realistically. Even with shifting many of our existing resources

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Speaker 5: to focus on AI, we'll still grow our investment envelope

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Speaker 5: meaningfully before we make much revenue from some of these

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Speaker 5: new products.

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Speaker 4: CEO Mark Zuckerberg says Meta will spend billions of dollars

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Speaker 4: more than expected this year, fueled by investments in artificial intelligence.

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Speaker 1: Well, Nathan, the metamiss is sparking your sell off in

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Speaker 1: some other high tech stocks this morning. Shares of Alphabet

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Speaker 1: down about three percent. Microsoft is lower by almost two percent.

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Speaker 1: Both companies report earnings this afternoon.

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Speaker 4: And IBM shares are plunging as well care and they're

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Speaker 4: down more than eight percent. That company's we consulting unit

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Speaker 4: sales is disappointing investors, overshadowing IBM's acquisition of software firm Hashikorp.

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Speaker 1: Well, Nathan, we also have a barrage of earnings overseas,

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Speaker 1: particularly in the banking sector. Shares of barclayser up almost

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Speaker 1: four percent. The British bank posted first quarter revenue that

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Speaker 1: top analyst estimates. We spoke earlier with Chief executive Officer

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Speaker 1: Csvan Kada Krishnan about the volatile rates market.

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Speaker 6: It is very early. Our numbers are in line with

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Speaker 6: what we said. We've seen deposit growth, we've seen lending

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Speaker 6: growth in mortgages and in credit, and so we're pleased

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Speaker 6: with that. But it's one quarter in a longer journey

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Speaker 6: of three.

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Speaker 1: Years in Barclays ceocs kind of. Krishnan says. Revenue tied

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Speaker 1: to the company's investment banking businesses top estimates.

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Speaker 4: Elsewhere in European banks, Karen Deutsche Bank saw seven percent

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Speaker 4: jump in earnings from fixed income trading in the first quarter.

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Speaker 4: That was more than analysts expected and better than most

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Speaker 4: of the bank's biggest US rivals. Chief financial Officer James

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Speaker 4: von Moltke hailed strong momentum in Deutsche's investment bank.

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Speaker 7: We're very pleased with the results there, thirteen percent up

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Speaker 7: year on year our fit business and also within that

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Speaker 7: the financing business doing very well, so we see very

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Speaker 7: strong momentum and client engagement there. We're also seeing resilience

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Speaker 7: and growth across the other three businesses, and so it's

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Speaker 7: nice to have a shining star, but seeing resilience on

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Speaker 7: the more balance sheet sensitive businesses of our corporate bank

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Speaker 7: and private bank is encouraging.

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Speaker 4: Deutsche Bank CFO James von Molka added that he sees

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Speaker 4: optimism and growth coming back to Europe.

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Speaker 1: Well, Nathan, on this very busy morning, we also have

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Speaker 1: a huge takeover to tell you about. BHP, the world's

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Speaker 1: largest mining company, has proposed to takeover of Anglo American

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Speaker 1: that values the smaller minor at almost thirty nine billion dollars.

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Speaker 1: Bloomberg Commodities reporter Martin Ritchie says there's one primary reason

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Speaker 1: for the tie up.

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Speaker 8: This is all about copper.

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Speaker 9: BHP is going to become the world's biggest copper miner,

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Speaker 9: and that's because the miners are expecting a big wave

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Speaker 9: of demand for copper, and we've seen over the past

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Speaker 9: few years a number of quite big transactions and a

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Speaker 9: lot of talk about how they want to gain exposure

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Speaker 9: to copper. But this is the first really big deal

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Speaker 1: Bloomberg's Martin Richie says BHP's bid for Anglo could prompt

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Speaker 1: other giants to make a move back.

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Speaker 4: Here in the States, Karen, US chip making is getting

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Speaker 4: another boost from the Biden administration. It is awarding Micron

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Speaker 4: Technology up to thirteen point six billion dollars in grants

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Speaker 4: and loans for new memory chip factories in the US.

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Speaker 4: Micron has pledged about one hundred and twenty five billion

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Speaker 4: into build four factories in New York State and a

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Speaker 4: fifth in Idaho. President Biden will be in Syracuse for

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Speaker 4: today's announcement and checking Micron shares in the early trade,

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Speaker 4: they are little changed to the upside.

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Speaker 1: Well, Nathan, Let's turn out to a case that could

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Speaker 1: have major implications for the presidential race. Former President Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump continues to insist that he is immune from criminal

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Speaker 1: prosecution for trying to overturn the twenty twenty election. Now

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court will have arguments today on what exactly

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Speaker 1: constitutes a presidential act. Bloomberg's Amy Morris has more from Washington.

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Speaker 10: Donald Trump argues the charges are all based on actions

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Speaker 10: he took in his official capacity as president. Prosecutors say

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Speaker 10: nothing that Trump did in trying to remain in power

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Speaker 10: despite his loss was conduct of the office. The justices

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Speaker 10: have to try to draw a line between these views.

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Speaker 10: There's not much guidance. An official act of the presidency

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Speaker 10: isn't a term rooted in the Constitution nor criminal statute.

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Speaker 10: And even if Donald Trump is entitled to some immunity

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Speaker 10: for official acts, the federal government maintains there's no basis

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Speaker 10: for his claim for immunity. Meanwhile, the clock is ticking,

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Speaker 10: giving Special counsel Jack Smith only a narrow window to

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Speaker 10: put the former president in front of a jury before

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Speaker 10: voters go to the polls. November fifth, in Washington, Amy

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Speaker 10: Moore as Bloomberg Radio.

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Speaker 4: All right, Amy, thanks for all the Supreme Court. Here's

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Speaker 4: those arguments. Former President Trump will be back before a

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Speaker 4: Manhattan jury hearing more testimony in the criminal hush money trial.

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Speaker 4: Bloomberg Law host June Grosso has the latest one that

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Speaker 4: from New York.

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Speaker 11: David Pecker, the former publisher of The National Inquirer, will

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Speaker 11: be back on the witness stand today. On Tuesday, he

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Speaker 11: told the jury about how he killed stories about Donald

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Speaker 11: Trump's extramarital affairs to boost his twenty sixteen presidential campaign. Today,

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Speaker 11: prosecutors will likely ask him about the hush money payments

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Speaker 11: to Stormy Daniels. The judge is not yet ruled on

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Speaker 11: the prosecution's motion to hold Trump in contempt for violating

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Speaker 11: the gag order on commenting on witnesses in the case.

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Speaker 11: In New York, June Grosso Bloomberg Radio.

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Speaker 1: All right, June, thank you well. There is a new

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Speaker 1: criminal case tied to the two twenty election. A grand

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Speaker 1: juri in Arizona has issued felony counts against eighteen Republicans,

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Speaker 1: including seven attorneys or aids to the Trump campaign, over

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Speaker 1: their efforts to overturn President Biden's win in the state.

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Speaker 1: The defendants include former Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani and ex

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Speaker 1: White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows. Former President Trump

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Speaker 1: is not facing charges in this case, but he is

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Speaker 1: named as an unindicted co conspirator.

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Speaker 4: Meanwhile, Caring the Arizona House has voted to repeal that

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Speaker 4: state's eighteen sixty four abortion law. Bloomberg Zed. Baxter has

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Speaker 4: that story.

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Speaker 12: The almost complete ban on abortions only to save the

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Speaker 12: mother's life could go into effect as early as June

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Speaker 12: eighth if it isn't repealed. Republicans have narrow majorities in

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Speaker 12: both chambers, but recent uproars have obviously changed some minds,

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Speaker 12: up the repeal vote next week. Two Republicans already say

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Speaker 12: they are supporting it. Governor Katie Hobbs has been urging

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Speaker 12: the repeal. This add to the heat of the issue

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Speaker 12: nationally politically. Ed Baxter, Bloomberg Radio.

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Speaker 1: All right, ed, thanks, and it's time now for a

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Speaker 1: look at some of the other stories making news in

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Speaker 1: New York and around the world. There's Michael Barr Michael,

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Speaker 1: good morning.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, Karen, Police yourselves. That's from New York City

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Speaker 3: Mayor Eric Adams to protesters on college campuses. Pro Palestinian

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Speaker 3: demonstrators have been calling on universities to separate themselves from

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Speaker 3: companies supporting Israel's war in Gaza. Police have been making arrests.

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Speaker 3: Critics of the protests say Jewish students have become the

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Speaker 3: victims of violent threats. Mayor Adams says that he's even

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Speaker 3: seen some protesters express support for the militant group Hamas Fudemus.

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Speaker 13: Speech is something that is constitutionally protected, and you can

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Speaker 13: be correct constitutionally, but it's in moral.

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Speaker 3: To see some of the terminologies that's been used. Mayor

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Speaker 3: Adams told WABC, there is no room for hate in

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Speaker 3: our city. Yesterday, House Speaker Mike Johnson visited Columbia and

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Speaker 3: called on the university's president to resign, accusing Minot Schaffik

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Speaker 3: of giving in to pro Palestinian protesters who have reportedly

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Speaker 3: threatened Jewish students. Speaker Johnson told a booing crowd on

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Speaker 3: the campus he supports free speech, but defends Jewish students

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Speaker 14: This is dangerous. This is not free expression, This is

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Speaker 14: not First Amendment. They are threatening, intimidating, saying that they

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Speaker 14: will take violence upon Jewish students. We met with Jewish

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Speaker 14: students who are in fear. They can't come on campus,

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Speaker 3: At the University of Southern California, police began detaining pro

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Speaker 3: Palestinian student protesters without incident. The arrests occurred hours after

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Speaker 3: police at the University of Texas and Austin aggressively took

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Speaker 3: more than thirty demonstrators. This student says he thinks the

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Speaker 15: This is a vault way further than it has because

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Speaker 15: of the speech. I've talked to a few kids here

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Speaker 15: my crimes, Like I was like, oh, I didn't know

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Speaker 15: you were like, you know, you know, supporting Kalstad, and

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Speaker 3: The arrest came at the request of university officials and

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Speaker 3: Texas Governor Greg Abbott. Representative Josh Gottheimer and other congressional

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Speaker 3: members are seeking committee hearings on New York City's congestion

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Speaker 3: pricing plan. The New Jersey Democrat is calling on a

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Speaker 3: House committee to ask MTA Chief General Lieber to testify

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Speaker 3: about the revenue expected to be collected from the new

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Speaker 3: feed global news twenty four hours a day and whenever

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Speaker 3: you want it with Bloomberg News. Now, I'm Michael Barr.

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Speaker 3: This is Bloomberg.

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Speaker 1: Karen Sor right, Michael Barr, thank you, and it's time

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Speaker 1: now for the Bloomberg Sports Update with John stash Hour.

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Speaker 13: John, Good morning, Good morning care. In the NFL draft,

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Speaker 13: you used to always take place in New York, then

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Speaker 13: they begin moving around the country. It starts tonight in

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Speaker 13: Detroit with the Chicago Bears on the clock. Unless everyone

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Speaker 13: Won the Heisman Trophy at USC Washington and New England

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Speaker 13: had the second and third picks. Both also need a quarterback.

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Speaker 13: Big question is will the Giants draft to QB, either

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Speaker 13: they take a wide receiver to help incumbent QB Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 13: There are mock drafts that don't have a single defensive

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Speaker 13: It is got a home run, Howard.

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Speaker 11: Judge back in the batter's box.

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Speaker 13: On wfan later home run for Anthony Rizzo and Juan Soto.

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Speaker 13: Yankees beat the A seven to three. Four game series

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Speaker 13: ends tonight. The Mets road trip ended with an eight

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Speaker 13: all season, the Miami Heat, playing without the injured Jimmy Butler,

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Speaker 13: eleven one oh one, tying the series at one. Oklahoma City,

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Speaker 13: won Game two by thirty two. Nixon Sixers play Game

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Speaker 13: three tonight in Philadelphia. The Nets formally introduced a new coach,

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Speaker 13: Jordi Fernandez, has been assistant in Sacramento Stanley Cup playoffs.

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Speaker 4: I'm Nathan Hager, Ametta miss is dragging tech stocks law

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Speaker 4: or this morning. The Facebook and Instagram parent company did

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Speaker 4: We're joined by Bloomberg's Alex web Alex good morning, not

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Speaker 4: so good a morning if you are a meta investor.

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Speaker 4: It does seem like this idea of spending up to

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Speaker 16: Sorry, excuse me, yes, absolutely, Look, there are two pieces

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Speaker 16: past year or so, telling investors that they are now

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Speaker 16: on efficiently run company, they care about costs. The sort

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Speaker 16: They're really looking at shareholder value. Then, not only are

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Speaker 16: we seeing actually a slight change of tack on that

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Speaker 16: they're pushing some earnings out in order to invest in

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Speaker 16: of that a slight softening in revenue. The current quarter

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Speaker 4: Certainly seeing that in terms of the action in the

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Speaker 4: stock this morning, I mean, what do you make of

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Speaker 4: Mark Zuckerberg's patients or call for patients this time around

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Speaker 16: I mean, there are a few different ways of looking

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Speaker 16: clearly the market hadn't seen this coming. He could have

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Speaker 16: just the general corporate strategy piece, and it's very temptate.

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Speaker 16: It's very tempting, presumably if you're running meta to look

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Speaker 16: We are now in a different sort of environment than

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Speaker 16: That is perhaps an adaptation that he perhaps isn't making

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Speaker 4: Is there room in the ad business, the ad environment,

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Speaker 16: The ad market is clearly recovering. As when you know,

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Speaker 16: when the economy recovers, marketing spends tend to increase. We

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