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Speaker 1: Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the No Dunks

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Speaker 1: podcast on the Athletic Network. It's Tuesday, April twenty eighth.

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Speaker 1: Jay skeets alongside me thanks to the power of technology,

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Speaker 1: Task Melis, Good morning, everybody, morning, Task We got the

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Speaker 1: bear one. Trey Herby, Hey, hey yo yo, the international

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Speaker 1: man of mystery taking it to the Max Lee Ellis friend.

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Speaker 1: And that's not least the man making the magic happen.

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Speaker 1: It's jd.

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Speaker 2: Hello.

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Speaker 1: There he is, and here we are. Thanks for joining

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Speaker 1: know we're beach stepping it up tomorrow on Wednesday, April

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Speaker 1: mention yesterday Lee nice mystery guests there the last week

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Speaker 1: on Instagram Live opening up that old pack of basketball cards. Wow,

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Speaker 1: I didn't see that coming.

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Speaker 3: No, And how well did he perform? Really, let's talk

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Speaker 3: about that. He's just he was a just an incredible

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Speaker 3: like what's that word, like a mystic sort of freak.

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Speaker 3: I don't know all these all these players are buried

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Speaker 3: somewhere deep in his brain and they just came out.

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Speaker 3: It was like rain Man.

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Speaker 4: I was struggling with Fat Lever for some reason.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, and Doug Christie and Doug Smith. But it

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Speaker 3: was great performance.

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Speaker 1: It was a great performance. And uh, you know, once

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Speaker 1: of just me looking at Lee and sunglasses.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was fun.

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Speaker 1: It was fun.

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Speaker 3: It's always better when things go wrong rather than when

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Speaker 3: they go Well, that was great, is it? And got

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Speaker 3: another special guest in the can for this week? Oh wait,

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Speaker 3: you see who that one is? It?

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Speaker 5: Is it the one who canceled on you last week?

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Speaker 5: JD had to fill in no offense.

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Speaker 6: No.

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Speaker 3: In fact, I've got a bit of a catalog now

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Speaker 3: of guests I've got lined up. So we'll see how

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Speaker 3: it goes anyway in the next couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: you missed it, make sure you check out yesterday's podcast,

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Speaker 1: Monday's podcast recapping the last two episodes of the Last Dance,

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Speaker 1: episodes three and four of that documentary series. We had

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Speaker 1: a blast talking about Rodman and Phil Jackson and the Pistons,

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Speaker 1: in this series. And if you're still jones in for

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Speaker 1: more on that series, The Last Dance, well you're in

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Speaker 1: luck because later today we're going to talk with Curtis Polk,

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Speaker 1: an executive producer on the Last Dance, So we'll fire

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Speaker 1: executive producer of The Last Dance. All right, we're talking

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Speaker 1: to little hoops here, or at least NBA headlines. I'll

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Speaker 1: get us started with sort of a back to back

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Speaker 1: from woes yespn quote NBA reopening team practice facilities Friday

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Speaker 1: where local restrictions eased. Then on Monday, yesterday, I'll follow

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Speaker 1: a little bit woesh yespn NBA pushes back workout date

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Speaker 1: amid uncertainty. So everybody got excited on the weekend. Expectations

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Speaker 1: maybe tempered a little bit more yesterday, But task, what

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Speaker 5: Well, the NBA had to act because there are states

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Speaker 5: in the US that are easing regulations twenty four hour fitnesses,

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Speaker 5: goal gyms. A lot of places are opened right now

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Speaker 5: in the state that we're sitting in, and right here

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Speaker 5: in Georgia, gyms have opened, so that the NBA had

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Speaker 5: So I think that's a reaction by the NBA, and

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Speaker 5: these cities specifically, it's just for these cities. It's not

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Speaker 5: in cities that haven't eased regulations where there are stay

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Speaker 5: and it doesn't mean guys are working out as a team.

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Speaker 5: There's a ton of regulations within this possibility that they

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Speaker 5: just up in the air. But if the Atlanta Hawks

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Speaker 5: are able to go practice in a gym, they can

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Speaker 5: only have four guys working out at a time, So basically,

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Speaker 5: I think they're working out at their own rims. They're

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Speaker 5: not working out anywhere close to each other. They have

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Speaker 5: coach or an assistant coach. So there's lots of rules

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Speaker 5: within it. And I don't think it means that the

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Speaker 5: got a lot of fans out there are getting angry because, hey,

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Speaker 5: why are you sending people out there into danger, into harmsway,

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Speaker 5: sending NBA players into harms way. Well, again, I think

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Speaker 5: they had to act instead of just allowing guys to

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Speaker 5: work out in their condo gyms or whatever. I think

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Speaker 5: they're just offering a safe place to go. And so

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Speaker 5: people are looking into the stipulations of well, they need

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Speaker 5: to wear a mask according to this memorandum that was

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Speaker 5: sent out, but they're allowed to take it off when

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Speaker 5: they're actually working out. Oh the people get angry. Oh wow,

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Speaker 5: when they're exhaling and sweating as much as possible. Well,

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Speaker 5: that doesn't make any sense. Well it does because they're

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Speaker 5: not going to be working out anywhere close to each

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Speaker 5: other if they're following rules and regulations. And again, it's

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Speaker 5: just somewhere to go instead of people doing it, you know,

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Speaker 5: in their condo gyms or wherever. Snaw Fitness perhaps that's

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Speaker 5: Snap Fitness. You can go to a movie theater here

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Speaker 5: in Georgia, that doesn't make sense, but you're not allowed

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Speaker 5: to go to Snap Fitness if you're an NBA player.

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Speaker 5: So it's just a reaction. And I think this is fluid.

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Speaker 5: Like there's two headlines you throughout their skits that happened

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Speaker 5: twenty four hours. And it's going to be changing as

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Speaker 5: teams and states start to see their local and state

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Speaker 5: governments change things around them. Things are changing and changing fast.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they said no coach or assistant coach has to

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Speaker 3: be a supervisor, So maybe that's someone like me. I

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Speaker 3: could go along and shoot around with the guys if

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Speaker 3: they need someone in the gym. I'm not a coach

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Speaker 3: what I noticed in this article here from woj As

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Speaker 3: reopening of businesses. And I think that's a key point too.

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Speaker 3: I think right now the US hasn't flattened the curve

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Speaker 3: Because if a play comes back and somehow somebody associated

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Speaker 3: there contracts the virus, then I think that absolutely ends

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Speaker 3: delay the opening of next season. So I think that's

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Speaker 3: key here is that still the health of everybody is

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Speaker 3: far more important than whether or not players can get

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Speaker 3: back into gyms. However, the NBA clearly doesn't want people

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Speaker 3: to sort of start going back to these public facilities that,

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Speaker 3: of course could be a petri dish of viruses and germs, or.

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Speaker 6: To travel like tass Is saying, if Georgia's open, what's

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Speaker 6: to stop, you know, Zach Levine from saying, Wow, George's open,

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Speaker 6: Maybe I'll drive down there and start playing out a

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Speaker 6: twenty four hour fitness I take all of these reports

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Speaker 6: at this time kind of with a grain of salt,

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Speaker 6: because it's just people making plans, because there's basically nothing

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Speaker 6: to do but make plans.

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Speaker 2: That's why things change every twelve hours because.

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Speaker 6: More and more information comes out, and more and more

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Speaker 6: hard to get really upset when I see an announcement

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Speaker 6: these days, because it never feels solid right. It never

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Speaker 6: feels like this is exactly what's gonna happen. Even this

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Speaker 6: changed from one day to overnight, so who knows. It

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Speaker 6: definitely gives you a little bit of hope that we

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Speaker 6: will see this basketball season again at some point, but

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Speaker 6: it's still basically impossible to know when it is. I'm

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Speaker 6: treating it like the Spurs missing the playoffs. It's hard

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Speaker 6: to believe it's gonna happen until it does.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, to echo that and saw something that ghost Fay

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Speaker 1: Siller wrote this morning. It is, you know, it's almost

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Speaker 1: impossible to escape the notion that Silver wouldn't be doing

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Speaker 1: all of this, this idea of these practice facilities opening,

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Speaker 1: you know, Okay now on May eighth, you know he wouldn't.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense that you wouldn't think he would

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Speaker 1: they're definitely not just saying well, that's a wrap, goodbye,

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Speaker 1: see you in twenty twenty one, or see you for

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Speaker 1: next year. We don't have a champion this year. It's

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Speaker 1: the baby steps. It's always changing. It will once again,

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Speaker 1: a podcast. But it's I guess if you're an NBA

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Speaker 1: hopeful that it's coming back, it's the step in the

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Speaker 1: right direction because, like you said, tasks, some of these

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Speaker 1: states have said, oh, yeah, you can go to a

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Speaker 1: twenty four hour fitness which seems mind boggling its own right,

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Speaker 1: But the NBA teams are like, well, who WHOA, don't

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Speaker 1: do that. Come to a much safer, you know, much

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Speaker 1: more controlled environment at our own facilities. We'd much rather

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Speaker 1: have you do that and then have all these requirements

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Speaker 1: in place. And you just went through a lot of them,

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Speaker 1: the mass and distancing and you know, group activity remaining

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Speaker 1: prohibited like so no practices and stuff like that. So

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Speaker 1: that makes sense. I tweeted it out. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you guys have a guest, because I have no clue.

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Speaker 1: You know what percentage of NBA players have left the

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Speaker 1: markets where their teams play during the shutdown, right? You

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Speaker 1: know how many Hawks players are here still in Atlanta

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Speaker 1: or in Georgia and across all the teams because that

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Speaker 1: makes it sort of you know, of course difficult as well.

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Speaker 1: You don't want these people just traveling all around either.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly right.

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Speaker 6: Think about when we watched Horse, Zach Lavine was in Washington,

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Speaker 6: Those three are not their home states.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, like I was, you know, hypothetically or whatever,

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Speaker 1: guessing of course, Like I don't know, it felt high

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Speaker 1: it's a bit of a guess and I'm just going

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Speaker 1: from sort of team to team. People that got back

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Speaker 1: of like fifty percent. You know, like a lot of

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Speaker 5: It's just not how it works. So I would chill out.

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Speaker 1: That there's you're not coming out of this quarantine all

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Speaker 7: He's only thirty four.

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Speaker 1: Well are you so? I mean, I'm like half joking here,

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Speaker 4: That's right. They feel really good about myself right now.

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Speaker 3: Not much outside of Tyler, to be honest with you,

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Speaker 6: I mean, Phil Jackson was a legendary coach at the time.

435
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Speaker 6: But you just you just get used to the person

436
00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:07,840
Speaker 6: that you're used to. And I mean, I think that's

437
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Speaker 6: why Lebron wanted Tyleru as well.

438
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Speaker 2: So I don't know.

439
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Speaker 6: I mean, maybe Lou relates to the players better, But

440
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Speaker 6: I do imagine Jason Kidd is still well like amongst players.

441
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Speaker 3: Maybe, I mean, and Kid may have learned from those

442
00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,080
Speaker 3: two early stops. He came straight out of playing and

443
00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,200
Speaker 3: went to coaching and then went from one job to another.

444
00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:27,000
Speaker 3: And now he's had a little bit of time. He's

445
00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,600
Speaker 3: obviously an assistant there in LA So maybe he has

446
00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:31,879
Speaker 3: learned and he has understood how he has to be

447
00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,320
Speaker 3: a better communicator, not just with his players, but the

448
00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,960
Speaker 3: front office as well, because you know, the other point,

449
00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,159
Speaker 3: when he left Brooklyn and Milwaukee both times he seemed

450
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Speaker 3: to really rub the front office up the wrong way

451
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Speaker 3: as well. And I think that's that's a part of

452
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Speaker 3: it as well. With Kid, if he went back to

453
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Speaker 3: Brooklyn with Sean Marx, he would need to learn how

454
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Speaker 3: to manage those relationships a little bit better, you know,

455
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Speaker 3: And you know, it's a good point there. I think

456
00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:57,320
Speaker 3: with Phil Jackson and Michael Jordan. I mean, Lebron clearly

457
00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,840
Speaker 3: wanted ty Lou in LA and he almost got him.

458
00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,520
Speaker 3: It was really it just came down to money. In

459
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Speaker 3: the end. Tyler wanted more, and it's felt he was

460
00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,239
Speaker 3: deserved more as he was a championship winning coach, and

461
00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,280
Speaker 3: if it wasn't the case, then he would be the

462
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Speaker 3: Lakers coach right now. So you know, Lou I certainly

463
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Speaker 3: feel has that respect amongst you know, Lebron and Kyrie,

464
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Speaker 3: and I think he'll probably have that with Kevin Durant

465
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Speaker 3: because you know that Kevin Durant would see those things

466
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,479
Speaker 3: where Lebron and you know, players who have won an

467
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:27,560
Speaker 3: MVPs and guys who have been there respect Tyleru's ability

468
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Speaker 3: to coach them. So I think that certainly goes in

469
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Speaker 3: his favor a little more than Jason Kidd right now.

470
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Speaker 3: But again, you know, people change over time, people learn,

471
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Speaker 3: and if Jason Kidd can show that he's become a

472
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Speaker 3: little bit more of a players coach or a good

473
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Speaker 3: front office coach to have in your team, then perhaps

474
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Speaker 3: he has a chance there. But I would say Lou

475
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Speaker 3: is the front runner right now. Out of those four.

476
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Speaker 3: That's not to say that they couldn't they wouldn't consider

477
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Speaker 3: somebody else as well.

478
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Speaker 1: It seems like they're targeting a certain kind of coach

479
00:21:55,560 --> 00:22:00,120
Speaker 1: for sure, yeah, point guard, yeah, and big name for sure.

480
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,240
Speaker 1: Not getting another Kenny Atkinson here in Brooklyn. I think

481
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Speaker 1: we can probably agree to that. And then I'm not

482
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Speaker 1: saying that's right, because there's obviously some very talented young

483
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,160
Speaker 1: coaches out there that maybe doesn't that don't have the big,

484
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 1: big name that some of these guys do, but feels

485
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 1: like they want one of those to pair with a

486
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Speaker 1: Kadie and a Tyler. John Hollinger called this the most

487
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Speaker 1: important decision of the Sean Marks era task. Do you

488
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Speaker 1: do you agree with that in terms of who's they

489
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Speaker 1: peg for the good next coach.

490
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Speaker 5: Yeah, but I think those two guys, Kevin Durant and

491
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Speaker 5: Kyrie Irving are going to have a say and who's

492
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Speaker 5: going to be around and not because they are, you know,

493
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:37,480
Speaker 5: they are the GMS.

494
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Speaker 7: That's that's not their job.

495
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Speaker 5: And I'm not trying to call them GM Lebron like

496
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Speaker 5: he was he's been called in the past, but they

497
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Speaker 5: had a say in Kenny Atkinson leaving no matter what

498
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,919
Speaker 5: the headlines are. They didn't love the way he dealt

499
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:57,359
Speaker 5: with superstars. It sure seemed like so it's it's it's

500
00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 5: definitely hard not to lean towards a guy who's not

501
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:05,399
Speaker 5: necessarily a motivator but more of a people's coach, you know,

502
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 5: more of a you know, a place a play caator

503
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 5: like he will just get everybody in their spots and

504
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 5: do their things. So Tyler, you definitely should have a

505
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,439
Speaker 5: head on this job, or should should be the front runner.

506
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 5: I think there's other names he had. John Hollinder mentioned

507
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 5: Brett Brown because he's got San Antonio roots with Sean

508
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:26,159
Speaker 5: Marks if if he leaves the Sixers, or Darvin Ham

509
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 5: another guy who's who's been he's a Mike Budenholder Budenholzer assistant,

510
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 5: and he's going to get a head coaching job at

511
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Speaker 5: some point. But it's hard not to lean towards a

512
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 5: guy like TYLERU or Jason Kidd. But I wonder if

513
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 5: Kevin Durant, after leaving the Warriors, could be a little

514
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 5: anti Tylo because he was Lebron's coach. Maybe maybe just

515
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 5: wants to disassociate himself from any success stories or anything,

516
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 5: because you know he wants to do things his way.

517
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,680
Speaker 5: He wants to be a bit of a trailblazer. He

518
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:00,640
Speaker 5: went to the Warriors. Now he went to Brooklyn where

519
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 5: no one expected. So maybe he just wants to disassociate

520
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 5: himself from any success stories. But that would make you

521
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,159
Speaker 5: believe that, Why wouldn't you just try it with Kenny Atkinson? Well,

522
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 5: I guess, I guess he didn't want him there, So

523
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Speaker 5: I don't know. Tyler seems to fit the bill. Hopefully

524
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 5: he's healthy because he was away from the game, and

525
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 5: he was he had some health concerns. But he definitely

526
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,920
Speaker 5: wants to jump back on the bandwagon. And the names

527
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 5: aren't other than him, Jason Kids some a degree, Jeff

528
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,439
Speaker 5: Fan Gundy, I think would he's grumpy, probably because he

529
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 5: isn't coaching basketball. Maybe he's happy if he's coaching basketball.

530
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,360
Speaker 5: Other than those, I don't really see any big names,

531
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 5: but yeah, I definitely love I see one more big name.

532
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Speaker 1: There's one more big name, and it's I brought this

533
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,719
Speaker 1: up before, and now, of course, the NBA being postponed

534
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 1: because the coronavirus makes this even more convoluted, and who

535
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 1: knows if you can even get to it or you

536
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:50,879
Speaker 1: wait it out. But Mike D'Antoni is fascinating to me.

537
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 1: If the Rockets do move on from him again, like

538
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 1: whether we have a season or we don't and he

539
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 1: is done coaching the Houston Rockets, I would just be

540
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 1: curious to year if Kad and Kyrie would be down

541
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: for a coach like that in Brooklyn as another of course,

542
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 1: big name. Obviously we know he is a talented coach

543
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 1: and can get a lot of wins. Is has struggled

544
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 1: to get over the hump, But I don't know that

545
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 1: what's fascinating to me.

546
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 2: I'd have to check the.

547
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 6: Rosters, but there's a chance that they have relationships with

548
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:21,360
Speaker 6: D'Antoni as well.

549
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:22,680
Speaker 2: Right from Team USA.

550
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,639
Speaker 6: I'm not sure exactly when he was there, because he

551
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 6: was there throughout eight and twelve. I don't know if

552
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 6: he's stuck around until Katie and Kyrie were kind of

553
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 6: leading those Team USA teams. But you know, d'antoni's certainly

554
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,120
Speaker 6: been around that program for a long time, and as

555
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 6: we know, Team USA is where a lot of deal

556
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 6: making happens.

557
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's like I just like, man, we've seen

558
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,119
Speaker 1: what D'Antoni has done to a guy like James Harden

559
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 1: in terms of just pure points and what he can

560
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 1: do out there, as you know, running the offense through.

561
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 1: Imagine what he could do with Kad and Kyrie for

562
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 1: crying out loud. I don't know, it's somewhat fascinating. I

563
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 1: think it's a bit of a long shot. And if

564
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,080
Speaker 1: I'm a betting man, I am going tylu from All

565
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 1: of these names were thrown out there, even the ones

566
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: like Brown and Ham. But Tony, that's that's that's spicy.

567
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 1: That's intriguing to me. By the way, Just one more

568
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 1: coaching sort of news here. Mark Stein did tweet that

569
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 1: Tom Thibodeau is believed to be solely a Knicks candidate,

570
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 1: so that's why we haven't mentioned him here maybe, and

571
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 1: that if if he's getting a new head coaching job,

572
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 1: it'll be with the Knicks and not the Nets.

573
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 5: Nick's bidding against themselves, as though what's happening very very

574
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 5: im possible.

575
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Speaker 3: All right.

576
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Speaker 1: Our next headline from the Chicago Sun Times bulls hire

577
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 1: Mark Eversley as new GM replacing gar Foreman Trey. What

578
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 1: do you think you're your franchise still making moves here?

579
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 2: You like this? It's been a great April.

580
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 6: My first thought is that the Bulls pulling in more

581
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 6: people who were not Bulls at any time in history,

582
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 6: the better they need to rebuild their reputation with other teams.

583
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,360
Speaker 6: You know, we've seen a lot of reporting since gar

584
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 6: Foreman was let go that teams just didn't like having

585
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 6: to deal with Garth Foreman. And it seems like Mark

586
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 6: Eversley is good with player relationships with interoffice relationships. The

587
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 6: guy has been around forever in the NBA at Nike

588
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 6: prior to that, so he knows a lot of people.

589
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 6: I think that'll be huge for the Bulls to become

590
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,640
Speaker 6: a respectable organization. Again, my second thought, the guy's got

591
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 6: good taste. We saw him eat in Portuguese chicken at

592
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 6: Barita in Toronto with Brian Colangelo.

593
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 2: That's a great restaurant. So I'm happy to know he's

594
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 2: got his finger to the pulse.

595
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,959
Speaker 7: But my third thought is great atmosphere food.

596
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough, fair enough?

597
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, but hey, hey he's great.

598
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, It's like a.

599
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, he's a people guy. He's a people guy.

600
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 6: You can show up there wearing a high collar dress

601
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 6: shirt or a T shirt and not look out of place.

602
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 2: It's fine either way.

603
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 6: My third thought though, was what are we getting from

604
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 6: Mark Eversley. It's really hard to tell with his track record,

605
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 6: because he was there with the Raptors after Bosh left

606
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 6: and they kind of were finding their way and tearing

607
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 6: things down a little bit. Then he goes to the

608
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Speaker 6: Wizards and they are just keep trying to make the

609
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 6: playoffs and trading the future or the present, you know,

610
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 6: trying to just stay in the meat, the treadmill of mediocrity,

611
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 6: if you will. And then he goes to the Sixers

612
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 6: and they're kind of caught in the middle. And he

613
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 6: played a huge part apparently in the Markel Fults draft.

614
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,959
Speaker 6: So I'm not super encouraged by the results in his past,

615
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 6: but I'm also not very encouraged with the gar Foreman results.

616
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 6: So let's try somebody new. And you know, as long

617
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 6: as you're gonna be advocating for Jim Boylan to go,

618
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 6: I'm happy.

619
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Speaker 5: Well, I think Eversley will be in the role of

620
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 5: relationship creator and not so much of the basketball side

621
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 5: of things, because our tourist Krnichiavus is the pure basketball

622
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 5: guy and Mark Eversley is coming along with that reputation

623
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 5: of being great with agents and players and front offices.

624
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 5: And Jay Triano, another Canada basketball lifer, shouted him out

625
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 5: for being that great and that's why he was hired

626
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 5: from his Nike days by Brian Colangelo, because he was

627
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 5: great with relationships. So kudos to Basketball Canada, the Bulls

628
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 5: hiring their first black GM, and to Mark Eversley really

629
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 5: working up the ranks now being around the NBA specifically

630
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 5: for a decade and a half getting this GM job,

631
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 5: and this is a new power front office that's entirely,

632
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 5: entirely a new situation for the Bulls without those roots

633
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 5: back in back in the eighties and the nineties.

634
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 7: This is this is a new life for the Bulls.

635
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think this is all. Do you think this

636
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: gives them some instant credibility, Lee.

637
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it does for sure, because again, apart

638
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 3: from John Paxson, who is still apparently in the year

639
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 3: of the owner Jerry Reinsdorf, it's clear that the Bulls

640
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 3: want to take new voices and new people and enhance

641
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 3: their reputation because that has been the problem. Everyone sort

642
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 3: of looks at gar Paks these last fifteen twenty years

643
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 3: and think these guys are just going to be here forever,

644
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,239
Speaker 3: and they never seem to be held accountable for what

645
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 3: they've done. And I think now Eversley he is the

646
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 3: sort of guy who he's a recognizable guy because he's

647
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 3: kind of tall, and you know, we've seen him around

648
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 3: the Raptors, We've seen him at All Star weekends. He's

649
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 3: always kind of there. So he clearly has a good reputation.

650
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Speaker 3: And now this, yeah, and this is the sort of

651
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Speaker 3: now he's done his time and he gets an opportunity

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Speaker 3: to really influence a franchise himself there, and I agree,

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Speaker 3: I think that he will be more about trying to

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Speaker 3: build relationships between front office and players and agents and

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Speaker 3: showing people that Chicago is a good team, it's a

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Speaker 3: good franchise and a place where guys can go and

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Speaker 3: be successful. I think that's going to be important because

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Speaker 3: the Bulls, you know, they kind of live off those

659
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Speaker 3: those six championships at Jordan and Pippen one, and really

660
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Speaker 3: that's that's been a bit of a problem, I think.

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Speaker 3: So I think clearly the owner ownership there has decided

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Speaker 3: we need to do something different, and they're making some

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Speaker 3: big changes, and I think that's good for Chicago. And

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Speaker 3: for their fans.

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Speaker 6: Look, we've got two people in the front off us

666
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Speaker 6: who are both six foot eight and Karneshiavus and Mark Eversley.

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Speaker 6: I'm a little worried now because the last time the

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Speaker 6: Bulls tried the twin towers, it didn't work. Curry and

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Speaker 6: Chandler maybe one of the worst eras in Bull's history.

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Speaker 2: And I'm getting nervous now.

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Speaker 1: I just want, I mean, I just want to know

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Speaker 1: how long? How long is Boyling gonna last year? Like

673
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Speaker 1: it's boiling in this team if the season returns is

674
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Speaker 1: boiling coaching this team next year?

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Speaker 6: Like there's no chance, right, let's hope. So it's honestly

676
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Speaker 6: been too long. They could have let him go right

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Speaker 6: now for all I care. What else what's stopping him?

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Speaker 6: You know, I'm sure that they're staffing the front office now,

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Speaker 6: and maybe they want to get everything settled before they

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Speaker 6: move on to personnel stuff. But I mean, if you

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Speaker 6: want to win over Bulls fans, that's the way to

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Speaker 6: do it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels like he's lame duck status no matter what,

685
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Speaker 3: So you know, why not just cut him loose and

686
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Speaker 3: start again? Because with all this feel good stuff about

687
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Speaker 3: hiring new people. It would seem a little bit off

688
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Speaker 3: to just keeping boiling who didn't really do that well

689
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Speaker 3: with the Bulls. So get someone new while he can.

690
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Speaker 3: And again, a lot of times vps and gms like

691
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Speaker 3: to have their own guy anyway. So I think more

692
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Speaker 3: than anything else, that's what the new front office is

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Speaker 3: going to look to. Was like, we need to make

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Speaker 3: a sort of a splashy sawning to show that everything

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Speaker 3: is changing.

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Speaker 5: Just googled art tourist Carnicievus because I had no idea

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Speaker 5: he was six eight Now found a photo of him

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Speaker 5: wearing some cool shoes. Now I'm shopping all of a sudden,

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Speaker 5: I just I want some carnaciv hiss shoes. But the

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Speaker 5: brand name it was hard, hard to really read it,

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Speaker 5: so I thought it was no Bell n ob E

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Speaker 5: l L. But they're called no bull.

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Speaker 7: Shoes now beu ll And now he's.

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Speaker 2: The Bulls VP cra crazy.

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Speaker 5: He won't be wearing those around the front office.

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Speaker 1: I didn't actually know he was six eight two. Now

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Speaker 1: the other guy had to change, like all the doorways

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Speaker 1: and stuff like that in their offices.

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Speaker 2: Two big guys there.

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Speaker 1: Working in the front office.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but I'm gonna guess that a basketball team has

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Speaker 1: No players never go in there.

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Speaker 2: That's right. That's how they keep him operated.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: two fun ones, I would say. First one from the

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Speaker 1: New York Daily News Jeremy Lynn finally getting some love

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Speaker 1: from the Knicks as MSG Network to air nine Insanity

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Speaker 1: games from February twoenty twelve. Lyn Sanity. Drink your Lynn

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Speaker 1: Shakes because MSG is playing the classics, which is this

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Speaker 1: is actually a big deal because for the most part

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Speaker 1: of the next pretend that you know, linsanity never happened

768
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Speaker 1: with how it ended, but you know, they had to

769
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Speaker 1: throw it on TV here because everybody's bored and people

770
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Speaker 1: would watch these.

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Speaker 3: Jeremy Lynn played thirty five games with the Knicks.

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Speaker 1: I can unbelievable. Unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it felt like he was there for at least

774
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Speaker 3: a couple of years, but he really just had that

775
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 3: insanity era that seemed to be way longer than it

776
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 3: actually was.

777
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Speaker 1: But it was awesome. It was really really fun.

778
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Speaker 3: There's so many really good games in there that my

779
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Speaker 3: two favorite are the game winner against the Raptors in

780
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Speaker 3: Toronto where he just sort of up as a clock

781
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Speaker 3: running down, and then of course the one against the Lakers.

782
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Speaker 3: I mean, I think that's probably your points, the one that's, yeah,

783
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 3: that stands out the most because you know, Kobe was playing.

784
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 3: It was in the garden, of course, and he he

785
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 3: was just incredible that night. So it's great to see

786
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 3: that they're showing him a little bit of love because

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00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 3: I think Jeremy Lynn feels that he's kind of been

788
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 3: forgotten from the NBA. He said that last year when

789
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 3: he couldn't get a contract that he sort of thinks

790
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 3: he's been overlooked, and you know, he can still contribute.

791
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 3: He didn't do all that much for the Raptors, but

792
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 3: prior to that he was a reasonable play just you know,

793
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 3: stuffered a few injuries and that seemed to slow him down.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm happy to see James Dolan willingly take some

795
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 6: losses here because it seems like he's not the biggest

796
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Speaker 6: Jeremy Lynn fan because Lynn, you know, went to the

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Speaker 6: Rockets and Dolan wasn't expecting that sort of thing to happen,

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Speaker 6: And Dolan and Carmelo Anthony are obviously close, and Mellow

799
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Speaker 6: did not like Jeremy Lynn becoming such a huge star

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Speaker 6: for the next but this was such an important moment,

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Speaker 6: and especially in the quarantine.

802
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 2: Like you need to embrace that.

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00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 6: Probably the greatest Nick moment of the past twenty years, right,

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00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,399
Speaker 6: I mean like this, They've gone to the playoffs five

805
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 6: times in the two thousands, they've won one playoff series,

806
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 6: and for some reason, you're kind of keeping at arms

807
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 6: length the biggest story of the two thousands, four year franchise.

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00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 6: So yeah, it's nice to see Dolan actually saying, hey,

809
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Speaker 6: I blew this one. Enjoy these thirty five games, I

810
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Speaker 6: suppose nine games, whatever it else.

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Speaker 1: Test we were, of course, we were the Basketball Jones at

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Speaker 1: this point back in you know, twenty twelve. What do

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Speaker 1: you remember the Linsanity run and us obviously doing podcasts

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Speaker 1: and TV shows on it.

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Speaker 7: Oh, for sure, it was wild.

816
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Speaker 5: You'd think a guy like that, just because it's never

817
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 5: happened in the NBA ever ever, ever, would have more

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00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 5: of a run. When it was happening. I thought, well,

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Speaker 5: this guy's gonna be solid for a really, really long time,

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Speaker 5: and I thought he'd be a starting point guard at

821
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Speaker 5: the very least for a long time, just because we've

822
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Speaker 5: never seen something like that in the end, and that

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00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 5: didn't pan out. And it only took a global epidemic

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Speaker 5: for the NBA era for the Knicks to say, yeah,

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Speaker 5: we'll put him on TV. I mean that's great.

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Speaker 2: Well, wow, not.

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Speaker 5: Really all that impressed that they're putting Jeremy Lynn on television.

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Speaker 5: Eight years later. They're looking for programming, I guess, and

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Speaker 5: it only took them two months into this pandemic to.

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Speaker 7: Make it happen, but it was there.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I really, I don't think I've seen anything

832
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Speaker 5: like it in the NBA period.

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Speaker 7: I just haven't.

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Speaker 3: When we're in Vegas a couple of years ago, when

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Speaker 3: you guys Tray and Task talked to Mike D'Antoni, and

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Speaker 3: Mike D'Antoni told the story about how Jeremy Lynn was

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Speaker 3: basically going to get cut from the Knicks and it

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00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 3: wasn't until there was a couple of injuries and he

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Speaker 3: stuck around and then he kind of saved Mike D'Antoni

840
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Speaker 3: as well, because it was just he didn't really know

841
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 3: what was going on, but they were just riding that

842
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Speaker 3: wave of lind sanity and it was awesome, and no

843
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 3: one really knew where it came from, how long it

844
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 3: was gonna lie, where it was gonna end. But it

845
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 3: was just a cool ride there for those you know what,

846
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Speaker 3: three or four weeks.

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Speaker 1: I still I'm glad you said it right off the top.

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Speaker 1: Lee he only played thirty five games, and it was

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Speaker 1: you know, I saw Bondie write this. It was arguably

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00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 1: the most thrilling month in the last twenty years for

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Speaker 1: the Knicks. This guy out of nowhere plays thirty five

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00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: games over really has like this nine to ten game

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Speaker 1: run that's just magical and just took over the sporting

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Speaker 1: world and it's got the greatest name ever too write

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00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 1: like lynsanity is so it's so perfect. I know there

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Speaker 1: was vinsanity and all that, and it's a bit of

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Speaker 1: a play on that. I get that, but it's just

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Speaker 1: it's I love it. I love just how perfect that

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Speaker 1: is for this moment. It was crazy. So yeah, you

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Speaker 1: catch those games. I guess if you're in the New

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Speaker 1: York area, you got the MSG network they have believe

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Speaker 1: started now I know on Wednesday, you get the highlight

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Speaker 1: of that thirty eight point gym against the Lakers.

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Speaker 2: That's for sure.

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Speaker 1: All right, final one here Bleacher Report Aaron Gordon drops

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Speaker 1: nine out of ten music video after your NBA don't

867
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 1: contest controversy. Yes, this is a real headline and it's

868
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 1: a real music video. Here's a clip.

869
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 9: Dad will lamb the best and then nicely lamb you're

870
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 9: a judgment gives me no fulfillment. I see you, young

871
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 9: o g that you saw the same in me legend

872
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,280
Speaker 9: in my city promised. I'm gonna make you believe.

873
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: Okay, you guys have I'm sure listened to the whole thing.

874
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: Seen the music video. What would you grade this out

875
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 1: of ten?

876
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 2: Better than ten? Worse?

877
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: Where do you go?

878
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,760
Speaker 3: I'll give it an eight out of ten. I actually

879
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 3: thought it was really well written. It was really a

880
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,359
Speaker 3: really good video. And I like the fact that he's

881
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 3: sipping on Dwayne Wade's wine while also dissing him. Yeah,

882
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 3: but yeah, some of the some of the lines in

883
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 3: there are pretty good, you know, like he's someone obviously

884
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 3: wrote that for him. He didn't write it, but wow,

885
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 3: Really he didn't get the trophy, but he got he

886
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,879
Speaker 3: didn't the trophy, but I got something to hold these

887
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 3: nuts like great sounds like. The weirdest part though, was

888
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,240
Speaker 3: just these voice in that sort of opening intro.

889
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 4: Pitch down.

890
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, I actually don't like the fact that he's drinking

891
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:16,919
Speaker 5: Dwayne Wade's wine.

892
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:18,720
Speaker 7: It was was all a ruse.

893
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 5: Hey, Dwayne Wade, give me, give me your box of wine.

894
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 5: I'm doing this, I'm doing this song that. Yeah, it's

895
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 5: a dig on you, but obviously you're in the loop

896
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 5: as well because I'm asking you for your wine. And

897
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,760
Speaker 5: Dwayne Wade later retweeted it, Hey, that d Wade seller's

898
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 5: looking pretty good. And I don't I don't like the

899
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 5: fact that it's I just don't like the all this

900
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 5: wine drinking happening in the NBA.

901
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 7: I mean, where did this come talking about?

902
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 6: Why?

903
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 2: Just what are you talking about?

904
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 7: Just where did it come from?

905
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 5: It's just like, oh, hey, where these sophisticated guys drinking

906
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:54,280
Speaker 5: wine all of a sudden.

907
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 7: I don't know, it's I just don't think.

908
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 5: I'm just not buying into the fact that these men

909
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 5: are leaving the arena or the practice facility or wherever

910
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 5: and having wine.

911
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 7: And maybe they are, maybe because it's healthy.

912
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,879
Speaker 5: I guess maybe they are if they're into a quick

913
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 5: little beverage, But I don't know. It just came out

914
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 5: of nowhere. It just feels fake. And this one definitely

915
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 5: feels fake because he's drinking Dwayne Wade's wine wild dissing him. Hey,

916
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 5: look at the coat. Look at the coat. I mean, yeah,

917
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 5: the coat's fine. But I find it weird that this

918
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 5: was his first choice. This was his rap debut, was

919
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 5: it not.

920
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 3: I don't know.

921
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 2: He's got another song on his YouTube for sure.

922
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's wearing his uncle Drew jersey backwards in this

923
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 6: other video of Casper, and then he wears a Vince

924
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 6: Carter jersey as well. Interesting looks. Also rocking the tucked

925
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 6: in T shirt in nine out of ten, I get

926
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 6: that a ten out of ten. I'm actually one hundred

927
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 6: percent bought.

928
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 7: In on this.

929
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 6: I don't think this was a production. I think this

930
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,280
Speaker 6: was a documentary. He's just been sitting there drinking Dwayne

931
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 6: Wade wine this entire time during the quarantine, obsessed over

932
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 6: the fact he found the tallest guy in the building.

933
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 6: On the night when everybody was jumping over people jumped

934
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 6: over him and lost. He's like, guys, it's time, turn

935
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 6: on the music, turn on the cameras. I'm dropping a

936
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 6: track here. Because he's wearing one outfit the whole time.

937
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 6: I just like the imagine he's got a buddy. He's like,

938
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 6: turn on your camera and follow me around. I got

939
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 6: something to say.

940
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 2: Yeah.

941
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 3: I think I think Dwayne Wade was the executive producer

942
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 3: behind this too, because he talks about how it cost

943
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 3: him a million bucks. And Wade's like, well, listen, why

944
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 3: don't we put out a video. We'll put my wine

945
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,359
Speaker 3: in it. I'll make a few bucks, and then I'll

946
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 3: give you the profits up to a million bucks, and

947
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 3: then you get your million bucks back, and we'll make

948
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 3: it look like we beef him with each other. I'll

949
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 3: retweet it. It'd be great business. And I think that's

950
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 3: what we're seeing right now exactly.

951
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 7: The players are two good of friends. These days.

952
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 5: You're going to write a disc track, diss him, go'll

953
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 5: be in business with him. You said it cost a

954
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 5: million dollars. That was my least favorite line was the

955
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 5: linery said nine out of ten could have bought the

956
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:54,760
Speaker 5: Fama Bens.

957
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

958
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 5: It can buy your Famo bend for sure. I know

959
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 5: it would have been a nice bonus Bens, but you

960
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 5: can still buy your fanily.

961
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: I think they give you a kia.

962
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 5: I guess with that Millie, he was gonna do something

963
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 5: something cool and outrageous with it. But listen, he's doing

964
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 5: something with his Quarantine time. That's more than I can

965
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:14,720
Speaker 5: say for myself.

966
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 1: So good for Aaron g I love that he he

967
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 1: name drops obviously a lot of people in this disc track,

968
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: Adam Silver, who basically tells him he should have won.

969
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: According to Aaron Gordon, Reverend Jackson gets dropped and Queen

970
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: Latifa gets dropped. He brings up Shack. Of course. I

971
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 1: just think with this was weird, weird timing on Aaron

972
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: Gordon of when he dropped the music video that like,

973
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 1: I get that he was he needed the boredom of

974
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: Quarantine to probably write this and record the video and

975
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 1: produce it and all that. I get that, But why

976
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,760
Speaker 1: did he drop this the night of Unless I'm mistaken

977
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 1: the Last Dance where all of NBA Twitter is in two,

978
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 1: episode three and four of the Last Dance and talking

979
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: about MJ and the Bulls and he drops it, then,

980
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: I mean there's nothing else going on. If he dropped this,

981
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: you know, Tuesday, Wednesday, whatever, Okay, then you got even

982
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 1: more than a half a million views, which it had

983
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: as of this morning.

984
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 2: The music video.

985
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you're into the millions easily. I just bad timing,

986
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: which makes me think he did it. And then he

987
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: was like, uh eh, is this amazing?

988
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 2: I don't know.

989
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 1: I'll probably get roasted for this a little bit. So

990
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,240
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna slip it in here on a Sunday

991
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,919
Speaker 1: night when the last dances on, see what happens. That's

992
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: my opinion on it. It was not I'm giving it.

993
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,800
Speaker 1: I'm giving it six out of ten. He doesn't have

994
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: the greatest rap voice. I gotta gotta say that. He

995
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 1: sounds like me rapping, but some funny lines, some funny lines,

996
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: and I actually I disagree with you guys. I do

997
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: not think this is a dwayde Wade co production. I

998
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: think he is legitimately and probably rightfully pissed off that

999
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 1: he hasn't won some of these dunk contests and this

1000
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: is his way to get it off his just He

1001
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 1: does say he's never going in another one again, too, right, Yeah,

1002
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:00,439
Speaker 1: that's what he says that the wrap.

1003
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 3: But look at look at Dwayne White's tweet there he

1004
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 3: puts in the bottom that at d Wade cell has

1005
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 3: looked fire. So clearly he's trying to pump his own

1006
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 3: brand a little bit at there. Now he's a retired man,

1007
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 3: he needs the income and he's trying to I'm not.

1008
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: Saying, yeah, Wayne is jumping on this like, hey, all right,

1009
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: sweet my wine's in there. I can make a couple

1010
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: more bucks here, thanks Eron Gordon. But I don't think.

1011
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 1: I don't think Aaron Gordon like in advance talk to Wade, Hey,

1012
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: can you send me some wine and then I'll do

1013
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: this track and we'll all make money. I think you

1014
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:28,720
Speaker 1: guys are going a little farther. They got your tinfoil

1015
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 1: hat on.

1016
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Wade's just a smart business man.

1017
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 6: Right away he said, you got a trademark nine out

1018
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 6: of Ton, and he does that's a great idea, I

1019
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:37,879
Speaker 6: think reached.

1020
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think Dwyane Wade and Aaron Gordon are definitely

1021
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 5: in cahoos in Caho. Why why would he be drinking

1022
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 5: Dwayne Wade's wine.

1023
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: Because that's like an f you task. It's like, you know,

1024
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: I know, we've got.

1025
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 2: To promote you want to promote your brand.

1026
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 5: Not much of an f you to me, is it

1027
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 5: took in? It is Michael Jordan sitting back drinking Isaiah

1028
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 5: Thomas Sherlin wine or champagne. It's not a wine, it's

1029
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:07,959
Speaker 5: a champagne. See that that's more of a fitting brand.

1030
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 5: I think for an NBA player, Champagne.

1031
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 7: We want it.

1032
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 5: This wine thing seems fabricated to me.

1033
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: Okay, how about this, so you almost want maybe Aaron

1034
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,280
Speaker 1: Gordon within the video to be like dunking bottles of wine,

1035
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 1: smashing Dwayne Wade wine.

1036
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 4: Like something like that, flashing it down the toilet.

1037
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, how about that ultimate.

1038
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 7: Dis You're eating Dwayne Wade.

1039
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:31,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.

1040
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 7: I did.

1041
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 2: I did not like.

1042
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 1: That he dunks in this music video and it's like

1043
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 1: Lee Ellis Duncan in our dunk Contest. It's like the

1044
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: most simple two handed dunk ever. It's like, what I mean, Oh,

1045
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: maybe he hasn't been drinking too much wine. Maybe he

1046
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: has been just writing too many verses. The hops didn't

1047
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 1: seem to be there.

1048
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1049
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 3: I was a little surprised he didn't just use footage

1050
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 3: from the Dunk Contest a little bit, sort of remind

1051
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 3: everyone about how Wilson's dunks with, you know, and then

1052
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 3: shots of the crowd gowing crazy and all that and yeah,

1053
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 3: so just going up and putting it down. It's like, yeah, well,

1054
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 3: you know you're not gonna win with a dunk like that, aren't.

1055
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 3: Come on, man, put down the wine bottle.

1056
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 1: Let's see what you guys think. Eric Gordon's nine out

1057
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: of ten music video and the lyrics and everything. I

1058
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: will say one part I did like and I was

1059
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: fascinated by it. Pans up like I think AG's like

1060
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: sitting on a couch, looks like he's in his living room.

1061
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 1: I think, you know, a theater in his house, and

1062
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: it pans up to you know, what appears to be

1063
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: like a night sky right like the stars in the sky.

1064
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: But I think that's his ceiling.

1065
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 4: Yeah you can see the pot lights.

1066
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: Yeah you see the lights. Okay, So but was that

1067
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 1: was that like photoshopped in, you know, digitized in or

1068
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: is that like in the ceiling, like it's a feature

1069
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:47,760
Speaker 1: of his again.

1070
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 2: Room that he has.

1071
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 4: It's a feature of the room.

1072
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,240
Speaker 2: If you ask me, that's badass.

1073
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 4: That was great. I mean that's that's a power moves

1074
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,399
Speaker 4: that looks awesome. And they're like there's an animal print

1075
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 4: that goes from the floor to the ceiling as well.

1076
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 1: I mean that's pretty you know what. I changed my

1077
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 1: mind ten out of ten.

1078
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 2: I love it. Love that man.

1079
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 6: He's sitting in a room filled with black light with

1080
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 6: a zebra print up to the ceiling and stars on

1081
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 6: the ceiling. I'm like, this is a college dorm room, bro.

1082
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 6: He's got like a posters of Biggie on the wall.

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Speaker 6: It was like a junior version of Drake's twocy slide

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Speaker 6: video where he's walking around like this gigantic mansion with

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Speaker 6: these gigantic portraits of rappers on the wall, and Aaron

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Speaker 6: Gordon's got like a twelve by twelve of Biggie spalls.

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Speaker 1: Oh poor g forg all right, well, what do you

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Speaker 1: guys think? Let us know, of course, hit us up

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Speaker 1: on Twitter at no dunk Sinc. Hashtag no dunks. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's call it there for today quick rundown of no

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Speaker 1: Dunks this week. As I mentioned off the top, later today,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have a one on one interview with Curtis Polk,

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Speaker 1: an executive producer of the Last Dance That Should Be Fun.

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Speaker 1: On Wednesday, we're beach step in, so get your questions

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00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 1: and your comments in right now Thursday, a new No

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Speaker 1: Buffs Survivor podcast. There's only three episodes left wow, of

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00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 1: Winners at War, So it's the perfect time to get in.

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Speaker 1: You know, you only have three episodes to watch. That's it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Friday.

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Speaker 1: On Friday, We've actually already locked down our new basketball

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Speaker 1: movie to watch for this Friday's film session. Lee, you're

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Speaker 1: getting your wish nineteen eighty five's comedy teen Wolf.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Is it a basketball Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Can't wait. Of course it's a basketball movie. Of course

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Speaker 3: it is. Yeah. Okay, why don't you get I've also

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Speaker 3: got a I've got a special guest on Thursday night

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Speaker 3: as well.

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, I did forget about that. Let's just uh,

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Speaker 1: let's leave that one mysterious. But if you're Australian you'll

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Speaker 1: like it. Let's just put it like that, everybody, I'll

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Speaker 1: really gotta like it. I reckon, who the hell is this?

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I forgot about that? Sorry, so apaulge So

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Speaker 1: I will say.

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Speaker 3: I will say. The guest I'm gonna talk to on

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Speaker 3: Thursday night has interviewed Michael Jordan and doctor Jelka. He's

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Speaker 3: got a connection to the basketball.

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Speaker 1: Will they I'm sure you'll be asking him all about

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Speaker 1: those interactions.

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Speaker 7: I will, all right, all right.

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Speaker 1: So that's absolutely will. That's late on Thursday, so we

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Speaker 1: got an action pack that week care of No Dunk

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Speaker 1: to make sure you subscribe to the podcast wherever you

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Speaker 1: listen to podcasts. Thanks so much to everybody that continues

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00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 1: to download and listen and share and tweet us in

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Speaker 1: and email us in. We really appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: Until next time, Clipper bros.

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Speaker 2: You heard it here first, have a great time turn up.

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Speaker 2: Love you guys, awesome, thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 5: Remember no bull our tourist Karnishiavus has great taste in

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Speaker 5: footwear and you must be getting paid some bucks because

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Speaker 5: these are.

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Speaker 1: Cheat Embrace the day people.

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Speaker 3: You could stay every day.

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Speaker 9: And d be happy every minute. It's done so long,

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Speaker 9: but your funna, it's happened already.

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Speaker 5: It's gonna be grady