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Speaker 1: Haley And I don't mean me. It is a man

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Speaker 1: director and ex officio Majordomo. Will McClay, thank you for coming, well,

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Speaker 1: thanks for having me. This bet fun, This is uh.

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Speaker 1: This is a a tough day for because because your

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Speaker 1: team and by team I mean players, coaches, you and

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Speaker 1: and it's a hard way to end when you think

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Speaker 1: you've got a really good chance to advance. But I

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Speaker 1: But what I just said to Will was that, you know,

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Speaker 1: last year, there was a feeling of wondering if they

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Speaker 1: like this team got everything out of itself. Doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: Is that a fair assessment. I think it's a fair

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Speaker 1: Two examples that come to mine might be Jay Ron Curson,

430
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Speaker 1: Carlos Watkins. Yep, yep. Nobody. Nobody was beating down their door, right,

431
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Speaker 1: Nobody was beating down at door. We they fit something

432
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 1: what we were looking for. They weren't. No one was

433
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,159
Speaker 1: beating down their door. They're good football players and it

434
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 1: was a good environment for them to be in and

435
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 1: that's how you get those guys. And a lot of

436
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 1: players want to come and play in Dallas. So that's

437
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 1: an advantage for us here in no state tax, the

438
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 1: opportunity to win. You know, you're on TV all the time,

439
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 1: so we do have some benefits on our side as

440
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Speaker 1: well as you know, just the guys in our locker

441
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 1: room when guys in the league talk, and that gives

442
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 1: us an advantage sometimes when you start talking to some

443
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,159
Speaker 1: of these guys, and not everybody's gonna get paid the

444
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,439
Speaker 1: big dollars when you're a free agent. So when that

445
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,360
Speaker 1: first wave goes through, those big dollar guys are gone.

446
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 1: So now guys start figuring out where they fit in.

447
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,399
Speaker 1: And if I'm gonna play for less than I'm worth,

448
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 1: I think then I want to go play at a

449
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 1: place where I have an opportunity to win, and you know,

450
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 1: all the things we have here, So that gives us

451
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 1: an advantage trying to get some of those guys. It's

452
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Speaker 1: finding the right ones. I will never forget when March

453
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:05,120
Speaker 1: Pepnovski came back. If you're too young to remember Mark Stepnowski,

454
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,120
Speaker 1: google him. When he came back for the second time,

455
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 1: Haley Haley just picked up her phone. Uh and uh.

456
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 1: And he came back from having been with the Oilers

457
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Speaker 1: slash Titans, and I remember saying to him, what makes

458
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: you decide where to go? You left here and went

459
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 1: to Houston, now you've come back here. Is it just money?

460
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,679
Speaker 1: So it's not just money, especially when the guy's been

461
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Speaker 1: around a while. I was maybe saved some money. He said,

462
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 1: it's the strength coach that's surprised. It's the strength coach,

463
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Speaker 1: it's my position coach, and it's the head coach as

464
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 1: well as the opportunity to win. So do you find

465
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Speaker 1: that still the case when you talk to free agents?

466
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Speaker 1: That's absolutely it. It's you know, um, it's who's in

467
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Speaker 1: your locker room? Where's my opportunity? What is our you know,

468
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 1: where's the team going? I think that's to Mike's credit. Uh,

469
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 1: and the coaching staff coming in now, I think they

470
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Speaker 1: have established, you know, a good reputation amongst free agents

471
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 1: around the league. It's, uh, the jones isn't what you know,

472
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 1: the taz Mahal that we've got built here and everything

473
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 1: that we have going on here and the opportunity to

474
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Speaker 1: be seen and to win, and you got to find

475
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 1: the right guys. We spend time with the free agents

476
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: and you know, I keep talking about the right guys.

477
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: It's not right kind of guys that do everything right

478
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 1: all the time. But that fit what we're trying to do.

479
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 1: That understand the mission and you know, you sit down

480
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: with him and you find it out and you try

481
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 1: and eliminate the the me guys like, you know, you

482
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 1: sign t Y Hilton, who'd been out and he's not

483
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 1: a me guy. He was a guy that said, I

484
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 1: just want to play, uh and I want to you know,

485
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 1: play for a team that has an opportunity to win.

486
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 1: And as long as we can keep putting together teams

487
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: that have an opportunity to win with people that can

488
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,479
Speaker 1: help you get to that point this free agents are

489
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Speaker 1: gonna want to come to this, you know, want to

490
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Speaker 1: come and get a shot here too. Cowboys Personnel director

491
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Speaker 1: Will McClay is our guest on the final Cowboy Hour

492
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Speaker 1: of the season. We'll be right back or like Cowboys

493
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Speaker 1: Our supported by Albertson and City Works for the Cowboys Hour,

494
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: which is presented by Luke Casey, the official bootmaker of

495
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. Cheerleaders Hayley Sutt and Brad Sham and

496
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Speaker 1: Will McLay. Will thanks so much for being our guests today. Now,

497
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: Brad always makes fun of me because I like, he

498
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: always makes fun of me because of my love for

499
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: the tight end group. That's you guys brought in this

500
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 1: year Payton and shot Jake Ferguson, But really this entire

501
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: rookie class when you look at the contributions that they

502
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: made very early on. You know, this was a group

503
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: that really established themselves early. Some of them provided to

504
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Speaker 1: be pivotal down the stretch. Just take us inside this

505
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Speaker 1: rookie class which you kind of saw out of them,

506
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Speaker 1: and how much of an impact they've been on the

507
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 1: roster this year. Well, very proud of the way that

508
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: you mean, because you know Jerry loves to say and

509
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: it's very true that you know, ten of the players

510
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 1: make a large portion of the salary cap. You've got

511
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: to be able to have young guys coming in and play.

512
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Speaker 1: And I think it's a credit to the players coming

513
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: in and you know, this isn't college football. They've got

514
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: these big volumes of playbooks and things to learn, so

515
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: they attack that. But also the coaching staff to get

516
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: them prepared. You know, they've got it started with the

517
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: you know rookie when they got in. UM. The way

518
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,479
Speaker 1: you indoctrinate them to it is you gotta spoon feed him.

519
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: You gotta find ways to make each kid learning. Very

520
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: proud of the staff about the way that they did

521
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: that and the way to teach to the different individuals

522
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: and then those kids taking it on their own to

523
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Speaker 1: know what it takes to you know, have an opportunity

524
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Speaker 1: to play. It was it was good to see young

525
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: guys coming. Tyler Smith played guard tackle, guard, um, you know,

526
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Speaker 1: which is unheard of and at a high level in

527
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: the NFL, and didn't blink. Well, it's it's his uh,

528
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: you know, it's his interior metal and all that other stuff.

529
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: But it's you know, Philbin and the coach is coaching him.

530
00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: It's uh, Tyrn Smith and Zach Martin and Jason Peters

531
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: helping this kid grow and him being able to take

532
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Speaker 1: and accept that. I think the biggest thing is that

533
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: they were We picked kids that had the ability to

534
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: play at the NFL level. They took it upon themselves

535
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: to find out and they followed guys like Dak Prescott

536
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: to say this is what it takes to play in

537
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: the league. So you weren't surprised at all that any

538
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: of them kind of stepped up the way they did.

539
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 1: I'm surprised that all of them did. It's a different

540
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: level of football. A big one is dron Bland out

541
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Speaker 1: of Blue. Now, we saw some things that we liked,

542
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: but he superseded what we thought because he picked it

543
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: up that much faster. He was that much more competitive

544
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: than we've you know, than we even thought. He would

545
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 1: go get the football. Nothing scared him. He would tackle.

546
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: You know, to find dbs that tackle and come from

547
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: college football, it's kind of hard because they don't. They

548
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: played touch in college football a little. So some of

549
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: the things that he did was you know, it was

550
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: unique again Tyler battling h you know, Sam Williams, the

551
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: contributions that he had, just all of these young you know,

552
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: we were talking about him earlier, Turpin's in NFL rookie.

553
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: The contributions that they brought to the team helped us

554
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: get to this point. Bland is one of those guys

555
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: who to me and it's been going on forever. I mean,

556
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: you can go you can go back to us certainly

557
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: to the nineties. You know, if the if the geniuses

558
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: had known how good Leon lad and Eric Williams were,

559
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: they wouldn't have been drafted where they were drafted. It

560
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,399
Speaker 1: Um Rayfield, right, you can go back all the way.

561
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 1: So you do drafted Bland higher if you knew what

562
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 1: you had drafted Hendershot instead of get him as a

563
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: free agent. It's you know, it's so when do you

564
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: find that out after you got them in the building

565
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: and expose them to your to your culture and your

566
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 1: coaches and that kind of thing. Yeah, and you find

567
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 1: out about them. I mean again, we don't know. We

568
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,399
Speaker 1: know a little bit about these kids, but you don't

569
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: know them until you get them in your building, and

570
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 1: you don't know how, um, how you're going to shape them,

571
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: how you're going to teach them. You know, it's it's

572
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,720
Speaker 1: it's every everybody's different. And again to the coaching staff

573
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: being able to reach these young guys and do it,

574
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 1: but it's also the vets pulling him along. Um, So

575
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: you don't really know that till you get him in

576
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,479
Speaker 1: the fire. And now some you know, are you gonna

577
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: spit the bit or you're gonna handle it? And uh

578
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: to these young guys credit, it's tough. You know, some

579
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 1: tough sledding out there, and they fought and and and contributed. Um,

580
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: let me see if I can start with some questions

581
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: that I know you won't answer. I gotta take a shot.

582
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: I know. I was like, he's answered everything. Trying to

583
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: soften him up. I've known him a minute. Yeah, Um,

584
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: you're you're veteran free agents, not they're restricted for a

585
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: Terrence Steele for instance, restricted free agents, So you don't

586
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: going anywhere. Uh, you're veteran free agents and you have them.

587
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: You touched on this. Look at him, his the wheels

588
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 1: are turning. He's trying to answer the question. What what

589
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: what am I gonna have to answer next? And how

590
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: am I going to answer it? That's what you're Um,

591
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: so you you have a kind of a priority list.

592
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 1: Must keep this guy, would like to keep this guy,

593
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 1: Love this guy, but probably won't be okay? So would

594
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: you be willing to tell us who you must have

595
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: on that list? Well, they're all good players. Now we've

596
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: still gotta go through that. I mean, we have an idea,

597
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: but we're gonna sit down collectively, you know, with Mike

598
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,760
Speaker 1: and the staff and Jerry and Stephen and the cap guys,

599
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: and we're gonna go through it, and you know, we're

600
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: gonna forecast a little bit. See this is what I

601
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 1: met because he could have answered this question in November.

602
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: Actually he's been making this list and altering it as

603
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: that's gone along. Um, you can only franchise tag one player. Um,

604
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 1: do you know who that'll be? I mean, you'd like

605
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 1: to not have to do anybody right. But that'll be

606
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: that'll be tricky. It's it's gonna be tricky. There's guys

607
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: that you want back, and as you get into negotiations,

608
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: if they want more than than you're than you can

609
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 1: afford to pay or you know, based on the way

610
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: that you uh manage your salary cap, it's an option

611
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 1: for us to be able to keep a player and

612
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 1: continue to try and negotiate with them. Are any of

613
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: those guys in different positions on the priority list and

614
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 1: they were when the year started? In other words, have

615
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: any of them played at a level even higher than

616
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 1: you expected, not hoped, but expected and moved themselves up

617
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: the list? Um? Yeah, I think that. You know, guys

618
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: grow and get opportunities, and they played better and they

619
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: show you more what they have and they also show

620
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: everybody else what they have. So that's that that makes

621
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: the job more difficult too. Okay, you played better for us,

622
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 1: while other teams are recognizing that too, which increases the value.

623
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: So yeah, there's a couple of players that have hit

624
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: free agency at the right time, the right time, the

625
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: right way, with the way and the right way. Would

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Speaker 1: you be willing to share any of those names. Nope, Okay,

627
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: names is what I'm picking up over your taking notes.

628
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's it's public knowledge. Tony Pollard, you know,

629
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: and he'll be back from the injury and everything else.

630
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 1: But he's a very vital cog to what we do.

631
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 1: Other people see him as a very vital cog to

632
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: what they could do as well. Um, there's a lot

633
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 1: of running backs in free agency and so, you know,

634
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 1: depending upon what people want to do. But he's an

635
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: explosive playmaking guy. That's one that and he's ours. You know,

636
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 1: we want our players that we draft that grow up

637
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 1: with us, that are you know, know how it is,

638
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: and that they can help us. Those are the guys

639
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: that you want to resign again. I mean the NFL

640
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 1: is you know we used to talk about, you know,

641
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Speaker 1: when you draft a guy, you want to get him

642
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,439
Speaker 1: to the second contract, just the way that it works

643
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 1: in the timing of things. I want your four to

644
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: five years to be great and then we make that

645
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: decision after that. Is a guy who helped himself by

646
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: his play. For instance, Layton Vandreesh Yes, yeah, I mean

647
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 1: he he's helped himself. I mean Layton, you know, I

648
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: remember talking to Layton right before we draft him and

649
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 1: I said, where do you see yourself in five years?

650
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 1: One of these standard questions I asked, and he said,

651
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: being the captain of this team and lead him to

652
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: the super Bowl, And that still burns inside of him.

653
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 1: And to see him progress, go through what he went through,

654
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: the scare and then come back on the field and

655
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: be even better. Yeah, I mean he's you know, he's

656
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: he's grown even more so in my mind because of that,

657
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 1: and at a great deal of love for him when

658
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: we drafted him and knew what he could be, and

659
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 1: then to see him develop and grow that he's you know,

660
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: he's one of those guys that help We talked about

661
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: the foundation in the locker room and all that stuff.

662
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 1: He's a big cog in that because of how he

663
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: handles himself, in the way that he holds people accountable

664
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: and brings people with him. Is there an area that

665
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: you see as being maybe more of a need than

666
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: in other places that helps prioritize those decisions. No, I

667
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: really can't say that one area or the other. It's

668
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 1: you know, when you get to that and you start

669
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 1: talking about free agency, well, that's why you're never one

670
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: player away. So that's why you don't draft for this year,

671
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 1: your draft for long term. And you know we've drafted

672
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: players that you make a lot of them have gotten

673
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 1: opportunities in the past couple of years to show that

674
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: they can grow into more. But you still want those

675
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 1: guys that you lean on that are big pieces and

676
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 1: helping us win twelve games two years in a row

677
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 1: and getting to this point. You also have a couple

678
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: of players for whom I have too much personal affection

679
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 1: and respect to mention their names right now, who have

680
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: less of their career in front of them than behind them,

681
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: who may or may not be free agents. But the

682
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: money is going to come into play. Where are you

683
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: in the process of deciding, Well, I'd like that guy back,

684
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: but I can't afford him at that number. I don't

685
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: want to insult him, but let's see if he'll take

686
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 1: less and find a role for him. Where you have

687
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 1: you have you reached that decision point with guys yet

688
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,720
Speaker 1: you haven't reached that decision point. You've had those internal

689
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 1: discussions as too, because you've got to figure out how

690
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: to manage the credit card, you know, and out of

691
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: respect to the people that have done work that you

692
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: want on your team. You've got to figure it out

693
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 1: and communicate with their guys, and you know they're going

694
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 1: to be insulted, and those are all things that you've

695
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 1: got to go through, and you've got to have strong

696
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: enough relationships with those people and their agents to be

697
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:31,919
Speaker 1: able to have those frank conversations. Okay, I think that's

698
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: about all of the questions. He won't answer for this segment.

699
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: For this segment, and well, let's we'll let you folks

700
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 1: here in City Works have a crack at Will. You

701
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,879
Speaker 1: won't have any better luck than we did, but we'll

702
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 1: let you have a crackhead. And we'll be back with

703
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: Will McClay on the Cowboys Hour at City Works at

704
00:41:47,560 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 1: the Star District in Frisco right after this, m to

705
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:54,760
Speaker 1: the Miller Like Cowboys Hour supported by albertson Hand, supported

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Speaker 1: official pizza of the as Cowboys. We've got one more

708
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Speaker 1: segment here that a dry Eye in the House, Bill

709
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: McLay and I think we're gonna take some questions. Yes,

710
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 1: have we Joe, Yeah, let's go, good evening, Will, How

711
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: are you good? How are you great, Thank you. My

712
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 1: name's Rambo. You were talking about managing your credit card bill.

713
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: Did Odell Beckham Junior not fall under that credit card bill? Now,

714
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: we didn't really get into as much financial. There was

715
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 1: a kind of a parameter that he wanted to be

716
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: up under and did it fit? But it was really

717
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: health you know, could he was he healthy? Could he

718
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: help us that sort of deal? It wasn't It wasn't

719
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: a big stretch because we didn't get fully into it. Now, he's,

720
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: you know, done a lot in the league, and I'm

721
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: sure he wanted to be paid handsomely, but we wanted

722
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 1: to see the proof in the pudding before. And that's

723
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: kind of what a fact you know that that it

724
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: actually brings up an interesting thesis for me. Hilton came here. Look,

725
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,280
Speaker 1: you guys had your eyes on Hilton and training camp.

726
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: He wasn't ready physically, nor did he want to come

727
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:14,240
Speaker 1: to training camp. Okay, he wanted to see it. Talking

728
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: to him the whole time. He wanted to see He

729
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: told his son he was gonna watch him play high

730
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 1: school football. So you brought Hilton in. In December, the

731
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: Eagles brought uh Sue and Lynvall Joseph in in December.

732
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: Are we tiptoeing into a new era where veteran players

733
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,479
Speaker 1: will find a way to stay in physical shape, don't

734
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: want to go to camp and then just come let's

735
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:41,320
Speaker 1: let's create a new mini market of free agency in November.

736
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: It's it's part of managing your cap and all the

737
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 1: opportunities you have to improve your team. Yeah, Lynnville Joseph

738
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: we were talking about and I was like, hey, we

739
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 1: can maybe we can get him to join practical And

740
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 1: the next day, Phil, I mean, I think I think

741
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,240
Speaker 1: they got our phones bag. So we're there. You're saying

742
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: that's yeah, you're there. Because players are gonna say, Okay,

743
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: if there's been an injury and that you know nobody

744
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 1: signed him, I'm not getting what I want. I'm gonna

745
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: stay in shape. Can I go to a contender and

746
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: can I contribute at the right price. So so hypothetically,

747
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: a player like t Y Hilton could say, Okay, I've

748
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: proven i can play by the way. I still have

749
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: kids doing stuff in school, so I'll stay in shape.

750
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: Really enjoyed my time here. Call me in October. Yeah,

751
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 1: that could happen. That could happen. Things things like hypothetic

752
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,879
Speaker 1: things like that could happen. I mean, yeah, me too.

753
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 1: Don't be in a hurry. Yeah, but but but that's

754
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: we're always looking for players. Now. If a guys put

755
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: stuff on tape that you know is there, you gotta

756
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,439
Speaker 1: figure out if he's in shape and what role can

757
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: he fit for you and how much do you gotta

758
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 1: pay him? Interesting all, well, Jacob, are you doing? Jacob?

759
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: I iced to meet too. My question for you is, um,

760
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: we lost a battle in the trenches yesterday on the

761
00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 1: offensive side. I feel like we need young girl offensive

762
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 1: lineman on our line. I'm just curious to hear from you.

763
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 1: What do you feel like we need down the stretch

764
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 1: to make this team a contender? Sure, I think we

765
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:16,280
Speaker 1: continue to have to find players that can add value

766
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 1: in whatever position they play. You talk about offensive lineman.

767
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 1: That was the number one defense and they you know,

768
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 1: they're supposedly the number one offense. They struggled with our

769
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 1: defensive line. It was a battle there. I don't think

770
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: that there's enough offensive lineman to go around for thirty

771
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 1: two teams to have strong offensive lines. Those guys have

772
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 1: to be developed. They don't play college football the same

773
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 1: way that we do in the NFL, they look at

774
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 1: a sign and they run down field on runs and passes.

775
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: It's a different game that you have to play. So

776
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 1: those guys have to develop. That's why I think that

777
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: you know, we got a special kid in Tyler Smith

778
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 1: doing that. So we got to continue to try and

779
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,439
Speaker 1: find those guys in development. We have some young guys

780
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 1: that we've drafted that they've got to grow up and

781
00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 1: step up. That's the way you gotta keep building. You

782
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,280
Speaker 1: gotta keep adding to it. Those guys have to develop,

783
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 1: and you gotta keep building, and we gotta find ways

784
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 1: to do what those guys do best too. From a

785
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 1: scheme standpoint, give me a scotting report on Matt Will

786
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: Let's go m I call him Bigfoot. He's he's he's

787
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 1: a really smart player that's extremely tall and long, and

788
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: he knows how to use his body and he can

789
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,399
Speaker 1: be a swing tackle and we were seeing some good

790
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 1: things from him before he got hurt. He adds depth

791
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 1: if nothing else. He couldn't practice because of the injury. Yes,

792
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: will he still have a leg up on anybody you

793
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:35,959
Speaker 1: bring in as a rookie? Do you think yes? He will?

794
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,359
Speaker 1: Because he you know everything that we saw from him

795
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 1: when we got him, we were like, okay, there's something

796
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 1: in there. And he continued to prove that there was

797
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: more before he got hurt, like he had the injury

798
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 1: in camp and he said, no, I don't want to

799
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 1: have the surgery. I want to play through it. So

800
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: for a young kid to come in and say that

801
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 1: and do that, he wanted to prove everything and he's

802
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 1: he's making big strides. Hey will good to see you again.

803
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 1: Good to see hi. Two questions. I'm a fan and

804
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 1: I'm a fan of the salary Cow every year? Is

805
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: there some kind of regret that the organization comes down

806
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 1: to the trade deadline? And I have another question behind

807
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 1: the salary Cow too, is that that's a like a

808
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: regret that y'all you know. I know, at the end

809
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 1: of the trade deadline comes and teams try to get

810
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: that one type of guy that can take them over

811
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:27,720
Speaker 1: the edge, like San Francisco gout the running back. I noticed,

812
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 1: like Troy can sell y'all as a homegrown talent team

813
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:35,399
Speaker 1: y'all build through the drought. But I noticed at the end,

814
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: the guys just don't have that that leadership in the

815
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:46,399
Speaker 1: locker room coming from maybe a guy that's standing out

816
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,839
Speaker 1: there in the free agent could be coming in to help.

817
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: I know it's a pause every year at the at

818
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 1: the trade deadline and also at the draft time. I

819
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 1: notice you have a lot of picks you like the field, six, seven,

820
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: but maybe it's a guy in the third that you

821
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: can package and go up and get this guy instead

822
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:10,439
Speaker 1: of having fifth six guys that's barely even making the team.

823
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 1: Hold on to answer that first, Sacon, let me ask

824
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 1: you a question. You be will Okay, you've got a

825
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 1: third round draft choice, sixth pick in the third round.

826
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna come to you now and I'm gonna say

827
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: I've got a five and a six and a seven

828
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,479
Speaker 1: I would like to give you for that third. Are

829
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 1: you making that trade? You're not the Cowboys, you're the

830
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: guy with the third round pick. Are you making that trade?

831
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: I think if I'm following you right, and I'm following

832
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 1: my question right, if there's a guy that you know

833
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:46,919
Speaker 1: you can get and could be Ryanbodi's favorite picking. Because

834
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 1: we all listen, no, no no, no, no no, no no, you

835
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 1: have a third round right your team X, You've got

836
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:56,399
Speaker 1: a third round pick. I'm coming to you and say

837
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 1: I've got a five, six, and seven. I'll give you

838
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 1: those three for your third. Are you gonna do that?

839
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: Probably not, thank you very much. It takes two to

840
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 1: tango when it comes to that. And one thing we're

841
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: not gonna do if we're we're we have a pretty

842
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,879
Speaker 1: good track record of drafting players, so those players come

843
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 1: in and contribute. So why am I gonna give something

844
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 1: away for somebody that I probably don't know as much about.

845
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,800
Speaker 1: You might think because brought us or mel Kiper or whatever,

846
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:26,720
Speaker 1: who's not done any work that we've done, that guy's

847
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: gonna be the guy. Well, how do we know? Um,

848
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 1: we've had draft picks that didn't work out, We've had

849
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 1: draft picks that did work out, So I want more,

850
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 1: more throws at the dark board. It's it's our philosophy

851
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 1: then going to say I'm gonna give you everything to

852
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 1: get that one guy, because I truly believe you're never

853
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Speaker 1: one player away, and then you might not have an

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Speaker 1: opportunity to get Tony Pollard or Duran Bland or that

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Speaker 1: kind of deal. That's the way that we approach Jason

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Speaker 1: Witten or you know, and then you talk about free agency.

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Speaker 1: It it excuse me. The trade deadline. It also takes

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Speaker 1: two to tango when it comes to the trade deadline.

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Speaker 1: If if I want something but you want more than

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Speaker 1: I'm willing to give for it, it's it's not gonna work.

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Speaker 1: And we try to do certain things. There was an

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Speaker 1: opportunity in this draft we talked about, I mean this

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Speaker 1: trade period talked about a receiver from Houston. They wanted

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Speaker 1: way more than you wanted to give for him, and

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Speaker 1: he was making a whole lot more more than we

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Speaker 1: wanted to pay. And that wasn't the only team with

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Speaker 1: whom you were in discussions and just a little more

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Speaker 1: than you wanted to pay. Yeah, I mean we made

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Speaker 1: a trade, you know, for a guy that really helped

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Speaker 1: us with Now we're not going to super Bowl, but

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Hankins. We gave a six round pick for Jonathan Hankins,

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Speaker 1: who came in here to be a really good player

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Speaker 1: for us in that role that we got him. I

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Speaker 1: think that's the You also have to be responsible, Like

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Speaker 1: I might want to put marble cabinets in my house,

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Speaker 1: but if it's not physically responsible, I think I'll just

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Speaker 1: go with the wood Ones credit card. Yeah, thank you.

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Speaker 1: There's a line for him and I see him, sim

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Speaker 1: awre you doing. Yes. What I want to ask is

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Speaker 1: that during free agency season, if all of those guys

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Speaker 1: choose to not look for higher pay and just remain

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Speaker 1: where they're at just to maintain the unity of what

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Speaker 1: you've built. Have there been several free agents who are

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Speaker 1: willing to sacrifice the extra money. There's guys that will

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Speaker 1: take less to stay here. We've seen it, They've been

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Speaker 1: through and they've done that, and it's you know, you

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Speaker 1: got to pick the right ones. People want to be here,

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Speaker 1: want to be here, and they want to A lot

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Speaker 1: of players will will say I'll take a little bit less.

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Speaker 1: How much is a little bit less when it comes

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Speaker 1: to fitting the whole puzzle together? Is that this is

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Speaker 1: so naive? Is the tax structure of the state a

893
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Speaker 1: factor for those players? Yes, yes, I mean that's I mean,

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Speaker 1: at least we think so. That's part of you know,

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Speaker 1: I pick up the phone and if it's close, I'm going, hey,

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Speaker 1: you're paying taxes something. So the money that the ten, fifteen,

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Speaker 1: twenty thousand dollars, it's usually more than that that you're

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Speaker 1: getting from them taxes here. You know what kind of

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Speaker 1: offset that? Uh so, yeah, we use it the other stuff. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: your last shot. I don't know. I think you've done

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Speaker 1: great today. How do you feel now the season's over

902
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Speaker 1: and we're looking ahead, how do you your final thoughts

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Speaker 1: just on how everything went this year. We didn't win

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Speaker 1: the whole thing, so I'm not none of us are satisfied.

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Speaker 1: We're all disappointed. There's only going to be one of

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Speaker 1: thirty two teams that they had the great seasons. Um,

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Speaker 1: what I continuing to try and push for is, like

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Speaker 1: all these people that are sitting out here there are

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Speaker 1: a Cowboys fan. Is hard to be a Cowboy fan.

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Speaker 1: I don't really look at Twitter or whatever that but

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Speaker 1: every now and then I'll flip over and it's hard.

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Speaker 1: And so what we're trying to do is reward those

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Speaker 1: people that have stuck stuck with us and and and

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Speaker 1: and a true Cowboy people. And we want to you know,

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Speaker 1: we want to hoist that trophy and I want to

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Speaker 1: hold that thing up. And I'm not satisfied until we

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Speaker 1: find a way to get that done. Will and I

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Speaker 1: go back and forth all the time because Will is

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Speaker 1: a devoted Houston Astros fan, yes, and he knows that

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Speaker 1: I am a die hard longtime Chicago Cub fan. So

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Speaker 1: it's not me, it's the Cub fan in me who says,

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Speaker 1: if you have a problem being a Cowboys fan, the

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Speaker 1: fault is not with the Cowboys, the fault is with

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Speaker 1: the fan. This team was really entertaining. It played hard.

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Speaker 1: You guys did a great job of putting it together,

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Speaker 1: and we appreciate your efforts and your time tonight. Now

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Speaker 1: get back to work. Yes, thank you, Will McClay, everybody,

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Speaker 1: thanks for being with us all year. For Hayley Sutton,

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Speaker 1: I'm Brad Sham. We look forward to being with you

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Speaker 1: again in September when we resume the Cowboys Hour. This

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