WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: A Closer Look At LB

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<v Speaker 1>The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for

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<v Speaker 1>a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>ready for a break? Yeah, And so much for that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for the break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. Today,

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<v Speaker 1>is she not Tuesday? Thursday? Thursday? Man, we're just lose

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<v Speaker 1>trave no idea. What Oh, we're still talking football. We're

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<v Speaker 1>still at training camp. It's episode nineteen, by the way, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for season fourteen. Season fourteen, Episode nineteen. Okay, awesome,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad. I'm sure fans want to know that. They

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely do they All right, well, let's jump riding to

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<v Speaker 1>our topic and we're gonna focus today on linebacker doing

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<v Speaker 1>well if we here, I care, Nick, remember you don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing great. Thanks for asking. Awesome. That's very rare.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's get to the name. Let's get to the name. Sam. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>that's rare, but thank you. Okay, we're all doing good. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we're all doing good in one of those moves. This

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna be fun. Are we whispering? Because they moved

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<v Speaker 1>this down closer to the to the field players, down

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<v Speaker 1>closer to the water. I feel like there's like someone

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<v Speaker 1>about the chip on the eighteenth, we're here, live at practice,

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<v Speaker 1>here in Augusta. Here comes bubb On. Okay, well, fairy.

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<v Speaker 1>Today our main focus is welcome to training camp. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're live, and there's lend Drapers. Okay, topic linebackers. That's

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<v Speaker 1>our focus today. But before we get into that, we've

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<v Speaker 1>been talking all week about the safety position, and today

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<v Speaker 1>our old Thomas name has been trending on Twitter. It

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<v Speaker 1>has so basically he keeps holding out and saying, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>give me an extension or train me to a team

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<v Speaker 1>that wants me and wants to keep me for the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of my career. So definitely that whole thing has

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<v Speaker 1>not died down. And oh, I mean every time it

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<v Speaker 1>tries to die down, something happens and you like I

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<v Speaker 1>would blame Nick, but Earl did it himself. I'm telling you,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know how y'all start your days,

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<v Speaker 1>But like my alarm goes off, I grabbed my phone

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<v Speaker 1>off the bedside table and I opened Twitter and I

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<v Speaker 1>just started reading. And that was the first thing I

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<v Speaker 1>saw and I immediately was like, Okay, this show will

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<v Speaker 1>be good today, show will be interesting today. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's with the same confidence that I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>the sun is gonna come out tomorrow at here and

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be a sunny day. It's it's it's happening.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna happen. Wow, it's gonna happen. He's gonna end

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<v Speaker 1>up with the Cowboys. I don't know when, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how, for how much, I don't know for how long.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think he's going to be wearing number twenty

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<v Speaker 1>nine for the Dallas Cowboys at some pert. Yes, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that point's gonna be twenty nineteen. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>that's happening this year. I really don't. Yeah, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>say that you were right if he signs next month, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right about between now and like October, you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>put an expiration data. Yeah real, Wait, what did you say,

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<v Speaker 1>like if he signs here in free agency? I thought

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<v Speaker 1>you said next month. I thought you said I was

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<v Speaker 1>telling you back a training camp in two thy eighteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah no, no, that doesn't count. I lose them. Yes

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<v Speaker 1>you do. I think you're saying between now and October fifteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>whenever the trade deadline is, I don't know. I'm top

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<v Speaker 1>of I am one hundred percent confident he will be

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<v Speaker 1>playing in that game in week three Dallas again Seattle,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't in some form or fashion, I'm not certain.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not certain about that because I'm not certain he

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<v Speaker 1>shows up if he doesn't have the contract. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he might be one of those guys doing this so

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<v Speaker 1>they don't do that. We've seen some players do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Name more than one. I can't There was only one

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<v Speaker 1>I can remember. It was even the first There was

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<v Speaker 1>Joey did it Joey? But there was also there was

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<v Speaker 1>a few years ago there was a I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was a defensive lineman that held out for like first

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<v Speaker 1>four or five weeks of the season. I can't remember.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just you're gonna put your money on the line.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't hold out like that. The gona be honest. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think he's coming to the Cowboys this year. I

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<v Speaker 1>personally don't think that because I don't think if if

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys are willing to give up what Seattle saying

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<v Speaker 1>they would take in order to make the deal happen,

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<v Speaker 1>it would have already happened. This has been a prolonged

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<v Speaker 1>period of time, it has not happened. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>he's one of is necessarily prone to move their position

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<v Speaker 1>because think about it from Seattle standpoint, why do they

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<v Speaker 1>have to? Seattle looks at it, and it's like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>whenever he shows up, you know, we're gonna we're only

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get him for one more year anyway, So whenever

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<v Speaker 1>he shows up, we'll get whatever he can give us

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<v Speaker 1>and then we move on to next year. Think what

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<v Speaker 1>needs to happen unless we can get a deal that

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<v Speaker 1>makes us One of what needs to happen in this

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<v Speaker 1>situation is the Seattle needs to allow the Cowboys to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to him and his agent. That's what needs to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Because if you ask people, and I have done this,

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<v Speaker 1>I've asked several well even yesterday, and I'm what's the

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<v Speaker 1>hold up? What's the biggest issue? And the issue is

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<v Speaker 1>they don't want to pay what Seattle wants for one year.

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<v Speaker 1>They're afraid they might get him for one year point Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So if they're gonna make this happen, if Seattle really

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<v Speaker 1>wants the two you know, or that's that's what Seattle wants.

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<v Speaker 1>Then they're gonna have to let the Cowboys have those

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<v Speaker 1>discussions with his age. Gonna have to get permission so

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<v Speaker 1>they can talk to the agent and they say, how

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<v Speaker 1>close are we on the parameters of getting a long

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<v Speaker 1>term deal, because if we if he's gonna sign here, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I got a ranch here, I bought this house. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to stay in Dallas where I want to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Trust me, I'll do this. Okay, they'll give the two

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I believe. So I think, I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>what's gonna have to happen, is that you can't do

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<v Speaker 1>that until you get permission because you got tampering. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what's funny there there's a precedent for this that

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<v Speaker 1>involves the Seahawks that's less than a year old, which

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<v Speaker 1>is Dwayne Brown. He held out for six weeks. He

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<v Speaker 1>missed the first six games of last season before the

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<v Speaker 1>Texans finally, I mean he reported and like two weeks

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<v Speaker 1>later they traded him to Seattle and he I believe

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<v Speaker 1>he just signed an extension with the Seahawks, which so

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<v Speaker 1>his deal didn't come until after he changed teams. But

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<v Speaker 1>he played it. He played hardball big time and what

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<v Speaker 1>stops Earl from doing the like there's there's no real

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<v Speaker 1>advantage for Earl showing up until he gets what he wants,

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<v Speaker 1>or just to keep putting pressure on them because he

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<v Speaker 1>knows that's not his long term. He seems stubborn enough,

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<v Speaker 1>proud enough, and has enough money to where I won't

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<v Speaker 1>be surprised if he's just like Seattle's making money off

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<v Speaker 1>the deal because he's getting fined. Yeah. Absolutely, But that's

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<v Speaker 1>my point. I think in this instance, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>he cares. Obviously he doesn't care because he's not there,

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<v Speaker 1>And I think Seattle's like, unless we get the deal

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<v Speaker 1>we want, it doesn't hurt us. So I think this

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<v Speaker 1>is just that classic case where nobody has is compelled

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<v Speaker 1>to say I will give more than I would normally

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<v Speaker 1>give in order to get it done right, and that

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<v Speaker 1>includes the Cowboys. For whatever reason, the Cowboys aren't I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think, at this point willing to give more than

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<v Speaker 1>where they where they've been. If the Seahawks were like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, you're not budging on the two, how about

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<v Speaker 1>this year's three and then a future draft pick and

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<v Speaker 1>not like a first or second, But if would you

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<v Speaker 1>do that, like we want we want your twenty nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>three and your twenty twenty three, right, something like that done.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just do it. I would just would you do

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<v Speaker 1>next year's two straight up? Just next year's two? And yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it feels just my decision. Yes, yes, yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's worth it because I think you're going to get

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<v Speaker 1>a player that, for the next three or four years,

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<v Speaker 1>will be, if not the best player in your defense,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the best players on your defense. And in

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<v Speaker 1>a secondary where I feel really good about the young cornerbacks,

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<v Speaker 1>you give them an experienced Pro Bowl caliber safety back there.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it takes him from being a pretty good

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<v Speaker 1>unit to maybe being a great unit. So to me,

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<v Speaker 1>it's worth that spin. And I don't think he's even

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<v Speaker 1>close to being done. Like he's twenty nine years old.

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<v Speaker 1>Safeties can play for a while. As a matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 1>great cornerbacks moved to safeties in the later safety and

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<v Speaker 1>the later part of their careers. He's fine to get

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<v Speaker 1>to continue playing. I would. I would do it, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>no doubt in my mind. What if Xavier Woods could

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<v Speaker 1>be your third safety coming in and out in certain packs.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty good about that. His ability to play some slot

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<v Speaker 1>corner This has to happen. I'm sorry, I just don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't see it happened. Does not see it

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<v Speaker 1>happening this year, because I really believe because all those

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<v Speaker 1>things I just said about about Earl Thomas, all those

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<v Speaker 1>same things can still happen next year when he's a

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<v Speaker 1>free agent. Right There's no reason why the Cowboys couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>get him next year when he's a free agent. So

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't have to happen right now, and the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>can still get what they want in the future, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just wasting a year of his prime. Well okay, I mean, yeah, you.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you're building the team for the future,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I'm focused on this year. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>about you, but I'm focused on this year. I might

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<v Speaker 1>focused on next year. So this is the year. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you have the ability or the chance to get

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<v Speaker 1>a great player to be on the team, have proven

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<v Speaker 1>one that you don't need to be developing or anything,

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<v Speaker 1>then bringing him on. I mean, but whatever, why do

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<v Speaker 1>I know? So let's just see what happens. This is

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<v Speaker 1>still the waiting game. Amber takes it personally like she's

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<v Speaker 1>just like they're not doing it because they want to

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<v Speaker 1>piss me off, like, that's basically who does she learned

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<v Speaker 1>that from? How do you not take it personal? You're here,

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<v Speaker 1>Brian brought us. He gets mad if you care you

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<v Speaker 1>take it personal? Well, no, no's not true. You feel

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<v Speaker 1>part of the family you have you're so involved here,

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<v Speaker 1>you're this is work. You do it every day, So

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<v Speaker 1>it's work. It's a business. Earl Thomas wrote a story

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<v Speaker 1>about it this morning. Can't get too involved, gotta this

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<v Speaker 1>goes back to what we said yesterday, though. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they they made this move with Dez Bryant for multiple reasons,

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<v Speaker 1>but one of them was the money. A financial part,

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<v Speaker 1>and they admitted that. They said that, They said, this

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<v Speaker 1>is a business. They cut him for those reasons. They said, now,

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<v Speaker 1>locker room, yeah, that's probably part of it, but but

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<v Speaker 1>it was it was also financial. So if it's financial

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<v Speaker 1>and they wanted to save this money, then let's let's

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<v Speaker 1>spend it on something that could be available. What upsets

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<v Speaker 1>me is when there is something that you can't make

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<v Speaker 1>it happen, or someone, let's say a player that you

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<v Speaker 1>know has the ability or potential to do something and

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't do it. That's when it's upsetting to me.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why quotation mark, I take you personal. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is a scenario like that. You know they

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<v Speaker 1>can make this happen, okay, but what if what if

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<v Speaker 1>in two weeks whatever, we play a couple of games

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<v Speaker 1>here and all of a sudden, the Cowboys trade they

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<v Speaker 1>land Earl Thomas Seattle for a third round pick, and

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<v Speaker 1>then it was then it was a standoff. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a standoff of you know, who's gonna who's gonna blink first,

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<v Speaker 1>and they ended up getting what they wanted and for

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<v Speaker 1>not you know, not giving up at three. So you

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<v Speaker 1>know it's not over yet. It's not over. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>get upset or mad about it. In when the Ravens

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<v Speaker 1>come in and they throw a two and it's over.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they take it and they say, wow, this

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<v Speaker 1>is good. We gotta two. He's not in the NFC anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>He's over there. We don't have to play him. A

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<v Speaker 1>good point I think could very well happened. So the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys are going to have to have one of the

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<v Speaker 1>strongest you know bids there. Well here's but here's also

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<v Speaker 1>what has to happen as a part of that. And

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned this earlier with the Cowboys if there's that

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<v Speaker 1>other team, they're going to be in a similar situation

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<v Speaker 1>if they can't get him to sign a long term deal.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is where it goes back to Earl. Thomas

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<v Speaker 1>walked in the Cowboys, So so whatever other team might

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<v Speaker 1>be out there, they have to be okay with the

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<v Speaker 1>idea that we really might be rending him for one year.

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<v Speaker 1>So whatever we're giving up is just for a year,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's a good chance that he walks away from

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<v Speaker 1>us because maybe he wants to go play a day.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the team that makes the most sense to

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<v Speaker 1>throw a second round pick at him is the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>for two reasons. Number One, like you said, he walked

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<v Speaker 1>into their locker room. I don't know if he's done

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<v Speaker 1>that somewhere else. And number two, oh, I hope he's

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<v Speaker 1>making that a week clear character just walks into everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>locker room saying come get Yeah, you wouldn't like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh he did he did that. He did that in

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<v Speaker 1>Saint Louis whatever. St Louis, Yeah, years ago. No, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>they make it makes sense for that reason and also

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that the Cowboys really have have left a

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<v Speaker 1>void there. They've left it. They definitely have left an

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<v Speaker 1>experienced hole there at safety. Um, there's some players there,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're not experienced. UM, so it would make sense

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<v Speaker 1>for them to do that. Okay, before we go on break,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go ahead and take a quick call from Reuben

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<v Speaker 1>in Arlington. Reuben Hell, Hello, Hello, Hey, I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>ask defense will this year and I'm just wondering because Mum,

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen the defense on the Cowboy app and they're

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<v Speaker 1>looking pretty good though, And you guys are awesome. Thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, thanks, thank you. I like to think so

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<v Speaker 1>well goes back, It goes back to the conversation we

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<v Speaker 1>just had in the previous ten minutes. They could look

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<v Speaker 1>really good if they made some moves. But as is,

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<v Speaker 1>as you're asking the defense as is, I think that

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna be solid. They cannot suffer any injuries, which

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<v Speaker 1>that's hard to say because injuries always happened. UM. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think that there's some key players there like Sean

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<v Speaker 1>Lee and and Cheeto and DeMarcus Lawrence, probably not in

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<v Speaker 1>that order, but those three guys right there that I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they have to play at a high level and keep

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<v Speaker 1>them on the field. So yesterday we watched a very

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<v Speaker 1>interesting practice. What I was just saying, y'all, what do

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<v Speaker 1>y'all think about the defense? We've been talking? Oh? Great,

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<v Speaker 1>just play, just playing what I just wanted to ask

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<v Speaker 1>them a little different. I think they have a potential

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<v Speaker 1>to be really good. We'll see if that actually happened. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>there was nothing else to be said than why you said.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I moved on. So you agree with that day? Yes, exactly. Okay, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm about to be more pesimistic, Nick, Do I have

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<v Speaker 1>permission to move on? Wow? Thank you sir. Okay, we

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<v Speaker 1>watched the fun practice yesterday and it was very interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>So I want to go around the table and just

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<v Speaker 1>hit on whatever stood out to you overall. So Derek,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to start it off? Hmm, let's see. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>the first thing I'll point well, the thing i'll point out,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is probably gonna take one fro everybody else,

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<v Speaker 1>because I thought it was a highlight of practice yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>but DeMarcus Lawrence in the one on one drills, um,

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<v Speaker 1>and I actually didn't see it live. I was actually

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<v Speaker 1>watching the linebackers and tight end and a couple other

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<v Speaker 1>offensive because a couple of other players in the seven

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<v Speaker 1>on seven. But during the one on one. De Marcus

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<v Speaker 1>Lawrence lined up against every offensive lineman on the first

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<v Speaker 1>team except um Martin, Frederick, No, no, he want against

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<v Speaker 1>Frederick except for Martin and and basically one against everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Well Frederick, he kind of does a draw. The first

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<v Speaker 1>time he beat him. The second time, Um, I think

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<v Speaker 1>Collins played him pretty well. M Collins kind of get him.

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<v Speaker 1>But he the first time, and then the second time

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<v Speaker 1>he snatched him out of his shoes. As Nate said,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it was it was pretty pretty interesting interesting

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<v Speaker 1>what he did. But he went around Tyron. That was

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<v Speaker 1>the most important thing. But as he did it, literally

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<v Speaker 1>he started with tyron. And if you notice how those

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<v Speaker 1>drills go, like you have, the tackles will go and

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<v Speaker 1>then they'll move in and they'll be a guard and

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<v Speaker 1>a guard and then they kind of go down the

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<v Speaker 1>line all the way. Well he would he started with tyron. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>then they moved to a guard working against another offensive guard.

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<v Speaker 1>And then what they did was he jumped in to

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<v Speaker 1>to go against that guard, and then another person would

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<v Speaker 1>go and then he jumped in to go against the center,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he moved in and so he went all

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<v Speaker 1>the way down the line. Martin was the only person

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't go against. But I thought it was pretty

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<v Speaker 1>remarkable Number one, because it shows his versatility and how

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<v Speaker 1>he can move up and down the line. But the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that he actually won a fair number of those

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<v Speaker 1>with the reps that he was doing too. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it just shows you this guy's locked in right now.

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<v Speaker 1>He is He is playing as well as anybody out

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<v Speaker 1>here during training camp, and I'm very, very excited to

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<v Speaker 1>see what we can do this season. We all I

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<v Speaker 1>always say, you know, real football is not like Madden.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't just like you know, you don't just magically

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<v Speaker 1>jump a few numbers in the stats during the off season,

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<v Speaker 1>and guys aren't just magically back up to speed when

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<v Speaker 1>they come back from injury. But it always is fascinating,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've seen it a few times in my career

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<v Speaker 1>here where like you can just see a guy making

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<v Speaker 1>a jump as a player. And DeMarcus wouldn't have done

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<v Speaker 1>that last year, and he certainly wouldn't have done in

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<v Speaker 1>the years before that, but he just he looks like

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<v Speaker 1>a different person. A few days ago, John Mashoda, my buddy,

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<v Speaker 1>got a video of it during individual drills. He was

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<v Speaker 1>working on fake spin moves like the one DeMarcus Ware

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<v Speaker 1>did to Joe Staley back in the back class day

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<v Speaker 1>like three years ago. But he just his and he

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<v Speaker 1>was talking about it too. His repertoire is like he's

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<v Speaker 1>I think he said he's got like more than fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>different moves. I didn't know there were that many moves.

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<v Speaker 1>Like he's just he is making that leap, so to speak.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't I don't know if he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>have fifteen sacks this year, but he is just on

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<v Speaker 1>another level than the guy that we thought we knew

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<v Speaker 1>even just a year ago. Yeah, all right, let's take

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<v Speaker 1>before the break, Derek gave us his highlight of practice,

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<v Speaker 1>and now Dave he's gonna give us his highlight, good

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<v Speaker 1>or bad whatever he was. I tweeted about this last

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<v Speaker 1>night and it might totally be a knee jerk reaction

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<v Speaker 1>on my part, but specifically from a blocking standpoint, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sold on these tight ends, and nothing I have

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<v Speaker 1>seen at practice has convinced me otherwise. I think, can

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<v Speaker 1>I can I interrupt real quickly? Yeah? Sure, So you

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<v Speaker 1>only talked for the last ten minutes. The reason why

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying is, don't give away too much because that's

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<v Speaker 1>our topic tomorrow. We're gonna talk about these tight ends,

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<v Speaker 1>So don't give away too much. All right, Fine, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>just this. I'm not I'm not hating on Jeff swam.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the world of Jeff Swayin. In his first

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<v Speaker 1>padded practice as a pro, Dalton Schultz got dumped on

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<v Speaker 1>his ass by Damian Wilson in a manner that I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't seen many times before in a pro practice. And

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<v Speaker 1>he came from a little bit, he came from Stanford.

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<v Speaker 1>And the line is that he's, you know, he's a

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<v Speaker 1>blocking tight end, which I mean, you know, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>trying to bury the guy just yet, but I just

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<v Speaker 1>I saw it and I was like, I wonder if

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna try to add a veteran tight end just

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<v Speaker 1>because it's true. I mean, he just had a baby.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to hate. I just life just had

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<v Speaker 1>a baby, more so than a lot of cool stuff

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<v Speaker 1>happened at practice yesterday. That when I saw that, I

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<v Speaker 1>was just like, oh my god, it was like a posterization. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was really a nice welcoming. It was cool to

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<v Speaker 1>see Damian Wilson's first highlight with the Cowboys. Who's that name?

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<v Speaker 1>Another highlight that he's had? Really there are now. It

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<v Speaker 1>was not very competitive there. It's supposed to be a

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<v Speaker 1>compete drill, and it didn't help that the whole team

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<v Speaker 1>was watching there. Um. I mean a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>talked about it. It It was it was a really really

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<v Speaker 1>nice catch by Terrence Williams that he made it. He

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<v Speaker 1>had a couple of nice plays, but but his catching

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<v Speaker 1>front of two people. I believe it was one handed too.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like it was really a nice play. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was down the field too. It was about

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<v Speaker 1>thirty yards down the field, so um it was it

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<v Speaker 1>was his best practice. Uh and it you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>probably happened because of Alan Hearn's you know not um

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<v Speaker 1>not being out there. I guess he had like a

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<v Speaker 1>veteran day, So yeah he did. I thought one of

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<v Speaker 1>you was going to mention Michael Gallup. He had a

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<v Speaker 1>great day. He did. It was on fired yesterday. The

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<v Speaker 1>interesting thing was, I didn't as I went back and

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<v Speaker 1>thought about it, I couldn't remember specific moments, but I

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<v Speaker 1>just thought overall, he looked really good out there right

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<v Speaker 1>um two minute drill when they were on the move

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get into field goal range, and he made

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<v Speaker 1>a nice catch on the sideline, got his feet down

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<v Speaker 1>and almost took out Mickey. About our feature back Ezekiel

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<v Speaker 1>Elliott in the red zone, they gave him. He got

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<v Speaker 1>the ball four different times. They threw him a screen pass,

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<v Speaker 1>they threw him an angle route, they gave him a

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<v Speaker 1>he went off right tackle and then on the four

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<v Speaker 1>yard line, first and goal, they handed it right up

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<v Speaker 1>the middle and he scored. They said he didn't score

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<v Speaker 1>because he's not there's no tackling. He would have scored

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<v Speaker 1>out of my mind. Yeah, that's one thing I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like about the defense and offense part of these padded

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<v Speaker 1>or these padded practices. But even when they're not hitting,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of times a defensive player will come up

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<v Speaker 1>right up there and he'd be like, oh, that makes

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<v Speaker 1>some noise. I'm like, you wouldn't have tackled Zeke like

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<v Speaker 1>you guys met at the twenty five yard line. The

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<v Speaker 1>ball is gonna be on the twenty one. There's no

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<v Speaker 1>way you're gonna just bring him down right there when

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<v Speaker 1>he's going full speed, if you're going to tackle them

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<v Speaker 1>at all. But they don't ever account for that, which

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<v Speaker 1>is fine. You know sometimes like these these guys will

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<v Speaker 1>blitz and then they'll like touch the quarterbacks back that sack. Yeah, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen that a thousand times, like just touching the guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually the Terrence one handed catch. Cony Eely had a

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<v Speaker 1>shot at Dak, but I'm gonna give Dak the benefit

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<v Speaker 1>of the doubt. I've seen him right, seen him resist

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<v Speaker 1>full speed pass rushers before. I think he could have

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<v Speaker 1>gotten away. Can I throw out this question real quick? Nick,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe think about this because we haven't really talked about this,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think. But you talk about Zeke and his ability,

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<v Speaker 1>like you try to take him down the middle of Phil,

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<v Speaker 1>He's probably gonna carry you a little bit. How much

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<v Speaker 1>do you think this new rule in the NFL when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to luring your head affects a guy like

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<v Speaker 1>Zeke who is a power back. He's got some speed.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's a power back. He will hit you. How

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<v Speaker 1>much do you think that's gonna affect them? Do you

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<v Speaker 1>expect him to be one of the guys ends up

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<v Speaker 1>with one of these penalties this season? Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's gonna happen. Depends on how much they call it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think certain crews will probably call it more

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<v Speaker 1>than others. But you're really asking, you know, they're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to prevent, you know, concussions and and obviously the of

0:23:03.000 --> 0:23:05.720
<v Speaker 1>safety of the team. But um, you you bring it.

0:23:06.000 --> 0:23:08.000
<v Speaker 1>How many running backs have you ever seen? There are six? Three?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it doesn't happen much. You don't see a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of running backs that run straight up like that

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<v Speaker 1>because they're gonna get hit, so natural instincts are to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of crawl down like that, ball up and get down.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't, I don't know. I don't something's gonna give here.

0:23:21.400 --> 0:23:23.720
<v Speaker 1>Because you just come running straight like that, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get You're gonna get hurt as well, So I don't know.

0:23:27.160 --> 0:23:29.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that. I don't. I hopefully they don't

0:23:29.680 --> 0:23:32.840
<v Speaker 1>call that as much, you know, I mean, you know

0:23:32.880 --> 0:23:35.240
<v Speaker 1>you gotta and they say you got a nose for

0:23:35.280 --> 0:23:37.040
<v Speaker 1>the nose for the goal line. I mean where that's

0:23:37.040 --> 0:23:38.920
<v Speaker 1>what you're doing. You're like loading your head and get

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<v Speaker 1>in there. It's I don't know, they wear helmets right.

0:23:42.680 --> 0:23:45.840
<v Speaker 1>One could be wrong, but I'm I just I believe

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<v Speaker 1>this rule is going to have a major impact on

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<v Speaker 1>the game when I see it happen. Because it happened,

0:23:50.920 --> 0:23:53.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm not buying because well, they did something like this

0:23:53.359 --> 0:23:55.200
<v Speaker 1>a few years ago. Me and Nick have talked about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I we you know, every year they show us a

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<v Speaker 1>video of the new rules, and I remember, uh, you

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<v Speaker 1>know that it was kind of like a baby version

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<v Speaker 1>of this, where like if the running back was inside

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<v Speaker 1>the tackle box and he lowered his head and used

0:24:07.880 --> 0:24:09.520
<v Speaker 1>his head first, it was going to be a penalty.

0:24:09.560 --> 0:24:11.920
<v Speaker 1>And they showed a bunch of clips from Trent Richardson

0:24:11.920 --> 0:24:14.760
<v Speaker 1>because that's how he used to run. And they never

0:24:14.840 --> 0:24:19.320
<v Speaker 1>called it because that doesn't happen that often in all honesty, like, yeah,

0:24:19.400 --> 0:24:23.000
<v Speaker 1>you take contact to your head. You don't lead with

0:24:23.040 --> 0:24:25.120
<v Speaker 1>your head that often, I don't think, and if you do,

0:24:25.160 --> 0:24:27.280
<v Speaker 1>I think that can be corrected. You know, you try

0:24:27.280 --> 0:24:29.240
<v Speaker 1>to ward people off with your hand, with your shoulder,

0:24:29.520 --> 0:24:32.679
<v Speaker 1>maybe your helmet takes contact just because it's a physical sport.

0:24:32.760 --> 0:24:35.000
<v Speaker 1>But I don't think it's that common to see a

0:24:35.080 --> 0:24:39.320
<v Speaker 1>running back genuinely lead with his head like actually try to,

0:24:39.480 --> 0:24:41.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, bowl people. But the only problem with that

0:24:41.720 --> 0:24:45.040
<v Speaker 1>is I think that when you when you're running and

0:24:45.160 --> 0:24:47.280
<v Speaker 1>you lean down to lead with your shoulder, and we've

0:24:47.320 --> 0:24:49.400
<v Speaker 1>seen this with the hits that come to from defensive

0:24:49.400 --> 0:24:51.960
<v Speaker 1>backs to receivers, you lean down to give him a shoulder.

0:24:52.240 --> 0:24:54.040
<v Speaker 1>But because of the way things kind of work out,

0:24:54.119 --> 0:24:58.840
<v Speaker 1>now there's helmet contact. How I guess my point is,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think they'll call it that, don't think because

0:25:01.000 --> 0:25:03.480
<v Speaker 1>when it's in a situation of a safety or a

0:25:03.480 --> 0:25:07.080
<v Speaker 1>cornerback making a hit like that, it's bang bang contact,

0:25:07.119 --> 0:25:09.240
<v Speaker 1>Whereas when you know you're running you kind of see

0:25:09.280 --> 0:25:10.880
<v Speaker 1>the hit line up a little bit more. When you're

0:25:10.880 --> 0:25:12.760
<v Speaker 1>talking about a running back, you have more time to

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<v Speaker 1>brace for it. And I just I don't I don't

0:25:15.760 --> 0:25:17.359
<v Speaker 1>think the refs will be that strict with it. Maybe

0:25:17.359 --> 0:25:19.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm wrong, but I really think this is a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of hand ringing about something that's not going to matter

0:25:22.040 --> 0:25:24.600
<v Speaker 1>that much. That's just getting way too peaky. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I get the reasoning behind it, but to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to watch that and see and call it every time,

0:25:30.200 --> 0:25:32.880
<v Speaker 1>and especially when you're trying to get those extra yards,

0:25:32.920 --> 0:25:35.600
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna lean like that with your body to get those.

0:25:35.680 --> 0:25:38.840
<v Speaker 1>So DeMarco Murray had a play against the Eagles a

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<v Speaker 1>few years ago when he was with the Cowboys, but

0:25:41.320 --> 0:25:45.840
<v Speaker 1>he really kind of leaned in and struck the linebacker

0:25:45.880 --> 0:25:47.840
<v Speaker 1>and knocked him down. And that was a play. It

0:25:47.880 --> 0:25:50.760
<v Speaker 1>was very noticeable and you could tell he was he

0:25:50.880 --> 0:25:54.720
<v Speaker 1>kind of targeted him. And if that happens that, yeah,

0:25:54.760 --> 0:25:56.480
<v Speaker 1>I think that's one that you'll call. But I just

0:25:56.560 --> 0:26:00.320
<v Speaker 1>don't see, you know, somebody catching at eight yards third

0:26:00.320 --> 0:26:02.159
<v Speaker 1>and eight or third and ten and then having to

0:26:02.200 --> 0:26:04.560
<v Speaker 1>die for the goal. And I just don't see them

0:26:04.600 --> 0:26:07.840
<v Speaker 1>calling it like that. Agreed, Which, yeah, that would that

0:26:07.840 --> 0:26:10.160
<v Speaker 1>would get called, and DeMarco did do that from time

0:26:10.160 --> 0:26:12.119
<v Speaker 1>to time, but it wasn't something that happened every time

0:26:12.160 --> 0:26:15.399
<v Speaker 1>you touch the ball. So, okay, let's jump into our

0:26:16.240 --> 0:26:20.920
<v Speaker 1>main topic of the day, which, as I mentioned earlier,

0:26:20.920 --> 0:26:24.199
<v Speaker 1>it was linebacker. Yesterday, we all got a chance to

0:26:24.280 --> 0:26:27.520
<v Speaker 1>watch all the linebacker group and we know the Cowboys

0:26:27.960 --> 0:26:32.240
<v Speaker 1>spent their first round pick this year on a linebacker

0:26:32.520 --> 0:26:35.560
<v Speaker 1>late in vendoresh And we've talked about how kind of

0:26:35.560 --> 0:26:38.280
<v Speaker 1>difficult it is to evaluate this guy is out here

0:26:38.320 --> 0:26:40.120
<v Speaker 1>just because of the whole thing where you can you're

0:26:40.119 --> 0:26:43.600
<v Speaker 1>not really tackling or anything. So let's just go over

0:26:43.680 --> 0:26:47.199
<v Speaker 1>each guy. I'm gonna start. If that's okay, it's just

0:26:47.280 --> 0:26:51.199
<v Speaker 1>like make sure and get I mean, we're gonna make

0:26:51.200 --> 0:26:53.920
<v Speaker 1>your host next time. Cool, that's cool. Actually that's a

0:26:53.920 --> 0:26:57.359
<v Speaker 1>good idea. Why don't you hose tomorrow? Okay? Sounds good? Um?

0:26:57.440 --> 0:26:59.800
<v Speaker 1>Can I start? Is that good? I mean, I don't

0:27:00.280 --> 0:27:04.560
<v Speaker 1>grabbing my wheels still still my point? Um, you don't

0:27:04.600 --> 0:27:06.640
<v Speaker 1>even know what the question was, but go ahead, what's

0:27:06.640 --> 0:27:12.880
<v Speaker 1>the question? Let me got a all right? Um? Actually

0:27:12.920 --> 0:27:15.200
<v Speaker 1>in the Star of the Day that that I wrote

0:27:15.200 --> 0:27:17.800
<v Speaker 1>about was Joe Thomas. I think I think he actually

0:27:17.840 --> 0:27:21.720
<v Speaker 1>is doing a really nice job on UM in pass coverage.

0:27:21.760 --> 0:27:24.800
<v Speaker 1>He's replacing Sean Lee who's not practiced yet in the

0:27:24.840 --> 0:27:29.560
<v Speaker 1>padded UH practices, and they're showing some some depth there.

0:27:29.800 --> 0:27:32.760
<v Speaker 1>Obviously last year when Sean Lee went down, UH, that

0:27:32.840 --> 0:27:34.679
<v Speaker 1>was one of the three guys they really did not

0:27:34.760 --> 0:27:38.880
<v Speaker 1>have an answer for from the defensive prospective. So Joe

0:27:38.920 --> 0:27:41.000
<v Speaker 1>Thomas has come in here, and I think he's going

0:27:41.040 --> 0:27:43.320
<v Speaker 1>to be a player that that he'll get on the

0:27:43.320 --> 0:27:45.560
<v Speaker 1>field at some point. But at least they're showing them

0:27:45.600 --> 0:27:48.359
<v Speaker 1>that they've got some depth there behind Sean. If they

0:27:48.400 --> 0:27:50.760
<v Speaker 1>need to do that, he's got good. He might actually

0:27:50.760 --> 0:27:52.879
<v Speaker 1>play something in the diamond the nickel because he seems

0:27:52.920 --> 0:27:55.480
<v Speaker 1>like he can cover the tight ends, at least these

0:27:55.480 --> 0:28:00.399
<v Speaker 1>tight ends. Uh. It is hard to evaluate linebackers because

0:28:00.880 --> 0:28:03.919
<v Speaker 1>it's such a physical position and these are not physical practices,

0:28:04.720 --> 0:28:09.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, compared to real football. But the scouting report

0:28:09.160 --> 0:28:11.159
<v Speaker 1>on Layton Vanderesh is that he's good in coverage and

0:28:11.200 --> 0:28:13.840
<v Speaker 1>he has shown glimpses of that out here. He's had

0:28:13.880 --> 0:28:16.359
<v Speaker 1>some really nice plays. He broke up a pass and

0:28:16.440 --> 0:28:20.000
<v Speaker 1>seven on seven yesterday. The day before that the justin

0:28:20.080 --> 0:28:22.359
<v Speaker 1>March Lillard pick six that we talked about where Chris

0:28:22.480 --> 0:28:25.840
<v Speaker 1>Richard was so excited he broke that up. It was

0:28:25.880 --> 0:28:28.160
<v Speaker 1>a tight end. I want to say it was Blake Jarwin. Yeah,

0:28:28.240 --> 0:28:30.440
<v Speaker 1>Layton Vanderesh got in there and punched that ball out.

0:28:30.840 --> 0:28:33.880
<v Speaker 1>He has shown some ability there, which ironically he gave

0:28:33.960 --> 0:28:36.120
<v Speaker 1>up the touchdown to Dalton Schultz on the last play

0:28:36.119 --> 0:28:38.320
<v Speaker 1>a practice yesterday. But what did he do. When that

0:28:38.400 --> 0:28:40.560
<v Speaker 1>was over, he was out there with the goat Jeff

0:28:40.600 --> 0:28:43.640
<v Speaker 1>Heath working on angles and pursuit and stuff like that

0:28:43.680 --> 0:28:47.960
<v Speaker 1>for probably ten fifteen solid minutes after practice. So he's

0:28:48.000 --> 0:28:51.080
<v Speaker 1>showing glimpses of his athleticism is off the charts, and

0:28:51.120 --> 0:28:53.320
<v Speaker 1>if he knows where to be, I think he could

0:28:53.360 --> 0:28:55.120
<v Speaker 1>be really good in that record. Do you think won

0:28:55.160 --> 0:28:58.040
<v Speaker 1>the battle? It was a compete battle between him and

0:28:58.120 --> 0:29:01.600
<v Speaker 1>jamaz Ola. Wally called it a tie. I mean they

0:29:01.920 --> 0:29:05.840
<v Speaker 1>they were definitely locked in for about like three seconds

0:29:05.960 --> 0:29:08.760
<v Speaker 1>and then he he eventually you know, ripped him and

0:29:08.800 --> 0:29:11.960
<v Speaker 1>got to the quarterback. But I would think ball would

0:29:11.960 --> 0:29:14.080
<v Speaker 1>have been gone by now. I mean, I think Garrett

0:29:14.120 --> 0:29:16.480
<v Speaker 1>actually gave it to Olda Wally. I think he did. Yeah,

0:29:16.560 --> 0:29:20.000
<v Speaker 1>but it was it was a physical hit where you're like,

0:29:20.640 --> 0:29:22.840
<v Speaker 1>I feel good about the linebacker being able to go

0:29:22.840 --> 0:29:24.440
<v Speaker 1>in here and do that. I feel good about OLDA

0:29:24.440 --> 0:29:26.840
<v Speaker 1>Walley being able to kind of stand there and watch.

0:29:27.040 --> 0:29:29.760
<v Speaker 1>Forty five seconds before that, Dalton Schultz got thrown like

0:29:29.840 --> 0:29:31.920
<v Speaker 1>a sack of laundry. That was probably Yeah, you were like,

0:29:31.920 --> 0:29:34.440
<v Speaker 1>oh man, somebody's got a hey. Good for him, well,

0:29:34.480 --> 0:29:38.080
<v Speaker 1>good for one, good for that. Watch Dalton Schultz today

0:29:38.080 --> 0:29:41.400
<v Speaker 1>and see if I watched yesterday, I know he he

0:29:41.760 --> 0:29:44.239
<v Speaker 1>he finished strong. He caught a touchdown at the end

0:29:44.240 --> 0:29:47.040
<v Speaker 1>of practice. Yeah, but I honestly, and I don't want

0:29:47.040 --> 0:29:48.520
<v Speaker 1>to get too far and tight ends. We'll talk about

0:29:48.520 --> 0:29:50.800
<v Speaker 1>that tomorrow, but there. I just think right now tight

0:29:50.840 --> 0:29:53.600
<v Speaker 1>end position has some work to do. Of all the

0:29:53.640 --> 0:29:55.880
<v Speaker 1>positions on the team, that's the position I think right

0:29:55.920 --> 0:29:58.320
<v Speaker 1>now they got they need some work. Yes, we knew

0:29:58.360 --> 0:30:01.400
<v Speaker 1>Tony Romo was was really good. We knew he was good.

0:30:01.400 --> 0:30:03.560
<v Speaker 1>Some people called him great when he played for the Cowboys.

0:30:03.760 --> 0:30:06.920
<v Speaker 1>When he left the Cowboys, you really saw, you know

0:30:06.960 --> 0:30:10.000
<v Speaker 1>how how great he wasn't how he made other players great. Now,

0:30:10.160 --> 0:30:12.360
<v Speaker 1>Dak they had that that awesome year. I kind of

0:30:12.400 --> 0:30:14.640
<v Speaker 1>think Romo they would have had an awesome year as well.

0:30:14.880 --> 0:30:17.959
<v Speaker 1>We're seeing Dez isn't the same without him. The offense

0:30:18.040 --> 0:30:20.200
<v Speaker 1>wasn't the same. Definitely in twenty fifteen. We're gonna see

0:30:20.200 --> 0:30:22.800
<v Speaker 1>that by leaps and bounds with the tight end position.

0:30:22.800 --> 0:30:25.760
<v Speaker 1>We're seeing it now. There's no yeah, yes, good good

0:30:25.760 --> 0:30:28.920
<v Speaker 1>play by by Schultz there to make a catch in

0:30:28.960 --> 0:30:31.400
<v Speaker 1>the red zone, but he got dumped on his ascid blocking.

0:30:31.720 --> 0:30:34.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, he's good hit at this and Jarwin

0:30:34.640 --> 0:30:36.560
<v Speaker 1>can block, but he's not really good out here. And

0:30:36.640 --> 0:30:38.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what Rico can do yet, but Witton

0:30:38.920 --> 0:30:40.240
<v Speaker 1>could just do it all. And I think that's what

0:30:40.280 --> 0:30:42.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to say. We were spoiled. I think we

0:30:42.840 --> 0:30:45.480
<v Speaker 1>definitely talked about it. Like day one in pads, Blake

0:30:45.600 --> 0:30:48.040
<v Speaker 1>Jarwin got dumped by Charles Tapper too, like it's not

0:30:48.080 --> 0:30:52.160
<v Speaker 1>just Alton Schultz like these guys particularly, And that's that's

0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:54.000
<v Speaker 1>my point. I think all these guys can catch the

0:30:54.040 --> 0:30:56.000
<v Speaker 1>ball and Swam can block a little bit. I don't

0:30:56.000 --> 0:30:58.200
<v Speaker 1>know if that's I wouldn't describe him as a blocking

0:30:58.240 --> 0:31:03.000
<v Speaker 1>tight end, but the blocking is what concerns me, especially

0:31:03.000 --> 0:31:04.760
<v Speaker 1>for a team that has liked to use tight ends

0:31:04.760 --> 0:31:06.360
<v Speaker 1>to blocks that you got to get a new tight end,

0:31:06.600 --> 0:31:09.440
<v Speaker 1>guys up tomorrow. We're just doing something else. You will

0:31:09.480 --> 0:31:11.760
<v Speaker 1>pick another position to talk about tomorrow. Let's just keep

0:31:11.800 --> 0:31:19.120
<v Speaker 1>going with it, the three flowing conversation. Stop trying to

0:31:20.000 --> 0:31:23.640
<v Speaker 1>about Earl Thomas every every single seriously. I mean, there

0:31:23.680 --> 0:31:25.840
<v Speaker 1>isn't a lot to talk about there though, and we

0:31:25.920 --> 0:31:28.440
<v Speaker 1>just did it. We'll talk about the tight ends tomorrow

0:31:28.560 --> 0:31:31.560
<v Speaker 1>and hopefully after today's practice, they can get over the average.

0:31:32.680 --> 0:31:34.840
<v Speaker 1>Right now, you want you have something more to say

0:31:34.880 --> 0:31:37.680
<v Speaker 1>about the linebackers. I mean, we've talked about the one person.

0:31:37.720 --> 0:31:40.000
<v Speaker 1>I'll talk about Jay and I actually spent some time

0:31:40.040 --> 0:31:42.360
<v Speaker 1>watching Jalen yesterday and I wanted to see more than

0:31:42.400 --> 0:31:44.960
<v Speaker 1>anything else. Again, when you're out here practice, you can't

0:31:45.000 --> 0:31:47.080
<v Speaker 1>really tell the linebacker like you but both of you

0:31:47.080 --> 0:31:49.200
<v Speaker 1>guys are said, But what what I was looking for

0:31:49.360 --> 0:31:52.240
<v Speaker 1>is how fluid he looks. Is he reacting quickly when

0:31:52.280 --> 0:31:54.320
<v Speaker 1>he has to make a cut and go in another direction?

0:31:54.400 --> 0:31:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Can he do that without looking as though he's lumbering

0:31:56.960 --> 0:31:59.640
<v Speaker 1>to bring that leg along? And to me, again, I'm

0:31:59.680 --> 0:32:02.680
<v Speaker 1>not a scout, I'm not a coach, but to me,

0:32:02.760 --> 0:32:05.320
<v Speaker 1>he looked like he's pretty fluid. It looks much better

0:32:05.400 --> 0:32:07.400
<v Speaker 1>than he looked last year in my opinion. What that

0:32:07.440 --> 0:32:09.800
<v Speaker 1>means for the season, who knows. But at this point,

0:32:09.920 --> 0:32:11.760
<v Speaker 1>right now, what I'm seeing, he looks a lot different

0:32:11.800 --> 0:32:13.760
<v Speaker 1>than he looks three hundred and sixty five days ago.

0:32:13.760 --> 0:32:15.480
<v Speaker 1>When we were out here and he was trying to

0:32:15.520 --> 0:32:21.520
<v Speaker 1>move around, it wasn't quite looking as fluid as my

0:32:21.640 --> 0:32:24.720
<v Speaker 1>developing theory, and it won't be this clear cut, because

0:32:24.840 --> 0:32:28.200
<v Speaker 1>just like offense, you can't be so one dimensional that

0:32:28.240 --> 0:32:31.240
<v Speaker 1>you're tipping off the defense, like I mean, you know

0:32:31.240 --> 0:32:32.680
<v Speaker 1>what I mean. Yeah, it can't be so to one

0:32:32.680 --> 0:32:34.920
<v Speaker 1>dimensional you're tipping off the other team. So if Jalen's

0:32:34.960 --> 0:32:37.640
<v Speaker 1>only in there on running downs, the offense is going

0:32:37.680 --> 0:32:41.560
<v Speaker 1>to throw. But I just think they're working it to

0:32:41.600 --> 0:32:46.320
<v Speaker 1>a point where Layton vander esh can deal with the

0:32:46.360 --> 0:32:49.320
<v Speaker 1>passing aspects, so to speak, and Jalen Smith looks like

0:32:49.360 --> 0:32:52.480
<v Speaker 1>he could really be great as like an early down linebacker.

0:32:52.520 --> 0:32:53.920
<v Speaker 1>I know you want more than that, and I think

0:32:53.920 --> 0:32:56.000
<v Speaker 1>he's capable of doing more than that, but I think

0:32:56.000 --> 0:32:57.840
<v Speaker 1>that's a great place to start. That's what I was

0:32:57.880 --> 0:32:59.880
<v Speaker 1>going to ask you. How do you expect the Kyle

0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:02.720
<v Speaker 1>voice to utilize both of them? I just it's so

0:33:02.800 --> 0:33:04.520
<v Speaker 1>much fun to think about. I think about it more

0:33:04.520 --> 0:33:07.360
<v Speaker 1>than anything else. I don't know about that we'll think

0:33:07.360 --> 0:33:11.920
<v Speaker 1>about the linebacker position in terms of the team, Yeah, probably.

0:33:12.200 --> 0:33:14.200
<v Speaker 1>I just I just think it's fascinating. You have so

0:33:14.280 --> 0:33:18.760
<v Speaker 1>much talent there and uh and and every time we

0:33:18.800 --> 0:33:20.800
<v Speaker 1>talk to him about it that you're like, well, we

0:33:20.880 --> 0:33:23.040
<v Speaker 1>can find time for all of these guys to play,

0:33:23.120 --> 0:33:25.920
<v Speaker 1>and so if it's If it's third and twelve, I

0:33:26.000 --> 0:33:28.920
<v Speaker 1>bet you Layton vander esh will be playing linebacker. And

0:33:28.960 --> 0:33:31.560
<v Speaker 1>if it's third and three, I bet it'll be Jalen Smith.

0:33:31.760 --> 0:33:34.800
<v Speaker 1>And you can Jalen's been doing more blitzing than he

0:33:35.000 --> 0:33:36.880
<v Speaker 1>did last year, and that's I think that is a

0:33:36.920 --> 0:33:39.000
<v Speaker 1>hallmark of Chris rah Shard. I can't wait to see

0:33:39.000 --> 0:33:41.680
<v Speaker 1>if it carries over to the season because Rod Marinelli

0:33:41.800 --> 0:33:44.880
<v Speaker 1>is notorious for not blitzing, and that gives you an

0:33:44.920 --> 0:33:47.160
<v Speaker 1>idea of how much influenced Chris rah Shard has. If

0:33:47.200 --> 0:33:49.600
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden they start doing that to a

0:33:49.680 --> 0:33:53.760
<v Speaker 1>much higher degree, so pressuring the quarterback being near the

0:33:53.800 --> 0:33:55.320
<v Speaker 1>line of scrimmage. I think Jalen can do a lot

0:33:55.360 --> 0:33:56.800
<v Speaker 1>of that stuff. I think he could play Sam in

0:33:56.800 --> 0:33:59.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot of situations. Um, you know, a part of

0:33:59.520 --> 0:34:01.640
<v Speaker 1>the the blitzing stuff too. And this is why I

0:34:01.680 --> 0:34:04.360
<v Speaker 1>think Christopher Chard is gonna have a big factor into this.

0:34:04.480 --> 0:34:08.160
<v Speaker 1>Is that you have bigger cornerbacks now that are longer,

0:34:08.160 --> 0:34:10.080
<v Speaker 1>that are more physical. They're gonna get in your face.

0:34:10.320 --> 0:34:12.920
<v Speaker 1>You trust them more to blitz. You can blitz more

0:34:13.000 --> 0:34:15.080
<v Speaker 1>people because it's like I'll trust you for one or

0:34:15.120 --> 0:34:17.400
<v Speaker 1>two seconds because we're gonna be close, we're gonna be physical,

0:34:17.600 --> 0:34:20.040
<v Speaker 1>and we're not gonna give you anything right off the bat.

0:34:20.120 --> 0:34:22.279
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I'll send three or four more guys there

0:34:22.360 --> 0:34:24.040
<v Speaker 1>because you're gonna have to rush you quickly. We're not

0:34:24.040 --> 0:34:26.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna get beat in two seconds. You know, we might

0:34:26.480 --> 0:34:28.319
<v Speaker 1>get beaten four or five, but not two. And I

0:34:28.360 --> 0:34:30.680
<v Speaker 1>think that's that style that Chris Schard wants to play.

0:34:31.000 --> 0:34:33.680
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be more conducive to blitzing a little bit more.

0:34:33.760 --> 0:34:36.080
<v Speaker 1>And that's honestly why I thinking we talk about it

0:34:36.080 --> 0:34:37.479
<v Speaker 1>a lot on the show. It's one of the reasons

0:34:37.520 --> 0:34:39.879
<v Speaker 1>why I think this team has not gotten as many

0:34:39.960 --> 0:34:43.279
<v Speaker 1>interceptions over the last how many years, is because I

0:34:43.280 --> 0:34:45.200
<v Speaker 1>don't think they play the type of defense that will

0:34:45.239 --> 0:34:47.920
<v Speaker 1>lend itself to that. They don't let the cornerbacks really

0:34:47.920 --> 0:34:51.359
<v Speaker 1>play physical and send the extra pressure. So quarterback has

0:34:51.360 --> 0:34:53.319
<v Speaker 1>to get it out quick, sometimes get it out before

0:34:53.360 --> 0:34:55.719
<v Speaker 1>he's ready, sometimes get it out off target. Sometimes the

0:34:55.800 --> 0:34:58.160
<v Speaker 1>receivers and where you're supposed to be. All those things

0:34:58.200 --> 0:35:00.600
<v Speaker 1>turn into picks. I don't think they do that enough

0:35:00.640 --> 0:35:04.120
<v Speaker 1>and give themselves those and give themselves those kinds of opportunities.

0:35:04.120 --> 0:35:05.879
<v Speaker 1>Now you can get beat on that, but I think

0:35:05.920 --> 0:35:07.880
<v Speaker 1>you also give yourself some chance for some turnovers that

0:35:07.880 --> 0:35:09.600
<v Speaker 1>that they haven't really been able to get. Where do

0:35:09.600 --> 0:35:11.800
<v Speaker 1>you think that the power Have you seen power rankings

0:35:11.800 --> 0:35:15.160
<v Speaker 1>for the Cowboys overall, like you mean like ESPN? Yeah,

0:35:15.280 --> 0:35:17.080
<v Speaker 1>just like, oh this is where they are not really

0:35:17.560 --> 0:35:19.520
<v Speaker 1>like my guess is their middle of the league. I

0:35:19.520 --> 0:35:24.680
<v Speaker 1>saw actually sixteen Yeah yeah, Yahoo Sports. I don't think

0:35:24.719 --> 0:35:26.840
<v Speaker 1>they're even done with it, but they do like a

0:35:26.880 --> 0:35:29.359
<v Speaker 1>team a day starting with thirty two and going up

0:35:29.360 --> 0:35:32.319
<v Speaker 1>to one. And I think the Cowboys were fourteen, yeah,

0:35:32.360 --> 0:35:36.720
<v Speaker 1>thirteen that sounds okay, yeah, just just making the trade.

0:35:36.719 --> 0:35:39.200
<v Speaker 1>Like we talked about, you put him in on this defense.

0:35:39.280 --> 0:35:40.880
<v Speaker 1>Where do you think where do you think that the

0:35:41.000 --> 0:35:44.960
<v Speaker 1>rankings would be? Then I think immediately they would damp

0:35:45.080 --> 0:35:47.319
<v Speaker 1>probably three spots. I did too, I think eight nine.

0:35:48.239 --> 0:35:50.160
<v Speaker 1>I think they'll jump three. You look at this this

0:35:50.360 --> 0:35:52.920
<v Speaker 1>defense now and you and just think of you know,

0:35:52.960 --> 0:35:55.520
<v Speaker 1>you got Heath that you would have Thomas, you'd have

0:35:55.920 --> 0:35:58.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, the Byron and Cheeto, the linebackers that you,

0:35:58.880 --> 0:36:00.800
<v Speaker 1>like you said, got the talent, got a one of

0:36:00.800 --> 0:36:04.360
<v Speaker 1>the top five pass rushers maybe in the league. Problem,

0:36:04.440 --> 0:36:06.720
<v Speaker 1>the problem and that's their weak side of the ball.

0:36:06.800 --> 0:36:09.040
<v Speaker 1>As we've talked about the Broder and special teams, guys

0:36:09.040 --> 0:36:10.720
<v Speaker 1>that are really good. And then you got an offense

0:36:10.760 --> 0:36:13.600
<v Speaker 1>that's from a from a national perspective, which I think

0:36:13.600 --> 0:36:16.279
<v Speaker 1>we can all agree is usually three steps behind us.

0:36:16.600 --> 0:36:18.239
<v Speaker 1>Not to pat us on the back too much, but

0:36:19.280 --> 0:36:22.160
<v Speaker 1>I think the questions on the offense are big enough

0:36:22.200 --> 0:36:25.399
<v Speaker 1>that it wouldn't drastically change anybody's opinion. It would still

0:36:25.440 --> 0:36:27.960
<v Speaker 1>be is that going to be good? And who's catching

0:36:27.960 --> 0:36:30.680
<v Speaker 1>the ball? Yeah? But the difference is the difference is

0:36:31.000 --> 0:36:34.279
<v Speaker 1>because everybody respects this offensive line and respects this running game.

0:36:34.600 --> 0:36:36.880
<v Speaker 1>If they feel like this defense can actually be a

0:36:36.920 --> 0:36:39.560
<v Speaker 1>defense that can get stops, it does change their opinion

0:36:39.560 --> 0:36:41.359
<v Speaker 1>on the team overall. It would be why it would

0:36:41.400 --> 0:36:45.000
<v Speaker 1>be wild if the Dallas Cowboys, who have been middling

0:36:45.040 --> 0:36:48.719
<v Speaker 1>to bad on defense as long as I can remember, like,

0:36:48.880 --> 0:36:51.879
<v Speaker 1>were contenders because of their defense and their run. That'd

0:36:51.920 --> 0:36:54.080
<v Speaker 1>be a whole different thing. Whole different thing. But those

0:36:54.080 --> 0:36:55.840
<v Speaker 1>are the two ingredients. If you can put them together

0:36:56.080 --> 0:36:58.440
<v Speaker 1>and creates a team that actually can contend in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, all you have to do is ways with

0:37:00.719 --> 0:37:04.800
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<v Speaker 1>with you. Let's not make it that simple. You still

0:37:07.680 --> 0:37:10.239
<v Speaker 1>gotta get your linebackers to play to the potentially say

0:37:10.280 --> 0:37:12.080
<v Speaker 1>you still got to get the cornerback. Let us. You

0:37:12.120 --> 0:37:14.279
<v Speaker 1>won't let us talk about linebackers like that was your

0:37:14.320 --> 0:37:16.200
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0:37:16.400 --> 0:37:20.480
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0:37:20.600 --> 0:37:23.680
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0:37:23.840 --> 0:37:27.480
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<v Speaker 1>Back to the break, all right, we just spend the

0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:37.439
<v Speaker 1>whole break. Nick and Derek have been arguing about what

0:39:37.480 --> 0:39:43.960
<v Speaker 1>they would arguing as harsh for this trade to get

0:39:44.000 --> 0:39:46.040
<v Speaker 1>that safety over here, and we don't need to get

0:39:46.040 --> 0:39:48.800
<v Speaker 1>back into it. But Nick, honestly, I mean it shifted.

0:39:48.920 --> 0:39:54.120
<v Speaker 1>Do you have a says it just shifted to oh

0:39:54.320 --> 0:39:56.560
<v Speaker 1>what Basically what I was saying is it mightn't take

0:39:56.640 --> 0:39:58.400
<v Speaker 1>more than our draft pick. It might take a player.

0:39:58.440 --> 0:40:03.000
<v Speaker 1>Then it's like, yeah, play which player? Um and one

0:40:03.040 --> 0:40:06.319
<v Speaker 1>of y'all throughout? Would you would you include Heath in

0:40:06.440 --> 0:40:08.360
<v Speaker 1>the deal, and I'm like, no, I'm not gonna do

0:40:08.400 --> 0:40:10.440
<v Speaker 1>that because now I feel like I could be back

0:40:10.480 --> 0:40:12.399
<v Speaker 1>to square one. Yes, my safety is gonna be better

0:40:12.440 --> 0:40:15.080
<v Speaker 1>than with Tom. So that's the deal breaker. If I

0:40:15.080 --> 0:40:16.719
<v Speaker 1>got to part with Heath. Now I'm out. I don't

0:40:16.760 --> 0:40:20.239
<v Speaker 1>have that one thing. I don't have to part. If

0:40:20.320 --> 0:40:22.640
<v Speaker 1>they liked him and they said, what'll get us to

0:40:22.680 --> 0:40:24.200
<v Speaker 1>do this, we will do that third round that you

0:40:24.239 --> 0:40:26.279
<v Speaker 1>talked about. But you gotta give us heat. And you're

0:40:26.320 --> 0:40:31.239
<v Speaker 1>saying that's your deal breaker. That's what he was saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:40:31.800 --> 0:40:33.480
<v Speaker 1>there's other ways to do I don't. I'm sorry, I

0:40:34.000 --> 0:40:37.800
<v Speaker 1>like Jeff, that's not my deal break. My safety position

0:40:38.000 --> 0:40:40.600
<v Speaker 1>is here and I want to take it here. Now

0:40:41.120 --> 0:40:43.160
<v Speaker 1>it's like, well, now we're gonna be back to here.

0:40:43.400 --> 0:40:45.239
<v Speaker 1>It's not not. If you got Earl Thomas, he's not

0:40:45.280 --> 0:40:47.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna be back down here. Let me finish. I mean,

0:40:47.480 --> 0:40:49.120
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna bring it up, but I think he's gonna

0:40:49.120 --> 0:40:50.799
<v Speaker 1>bring it up a little bit more than what it was.

0:40:52.080 --> 0:40:55.280
<v Speaker 1>Golden State's not trying to give up Curry to get cousins.

0:40:55.280 --> 0:40:57.239
<v Speaker 1>They want cousins with all of them. They want them

0:40:57.239 --> 0:41:03.680
<v Speaker 1>all did just compare the greatest three point shooter at

0:41:03.680 --> 0:41:09.799
<v Speaker 1>basketball history. Yes, okay, well the goat. Then I'm saying

0:41:09.800 --> 0:41:12.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to just rob Peter to pay Paul.

0:41:12.600 --> 0:41:15.799
<v Speaker 1>I want all of them to play. I will gladly, well,

0:41:15.840 --> 0:41:19.040
<v Speaker 1>gladly employ Earl Thomas and let Cavan Fraser figure it

0:41:19.080 --> 0:41:21.479
<v Speaker 1>out as strong safety. I would, It's fine, I would.

0:41:21.800 --> 0:41:24.040
<v Speaker 1>You don't have to do that. We can keep arguing

0:41:24.080 --> 0:41:27.879
<v Speaker 1>about this. Give him Bruce Carter. Bruce Carter, Yeah, second

0:41:27.960 --> 0:41:30.480
<v Speaker 1>round pick, you give up Jalen Smith in his knee injury.

0:41:30.480 --> 0:41:32.719
<v Speaker 1>You give up second round pick because you're you know, yeah,

0:41:32.760 --> 0:41:35.800
<v Speaker 1>but in this scenario, you now have two second round picks,

0:41:35.840 --> 0:41:38.120
<v Speaker 1>which means I like your odds of hitting on one

0:41:38.160 --> 0:41:40.719
<v Speaker 1>of them, because they got a good track record like

0:41:40.760 --> 0:41:42.920
<v Speaker 1>every other year or the second round picks not bad.

0:41:43.800 --> 0:41:46.719
<v Speaker 1>So if they can do it in one year, yeah,

0:41:46.800 --> 0:41:49.520
<v Speaker 1>you can do it, all right, Yeah, we'll see. Let's

0:41:49.520 --> 0:41:53.279
<v Speaker 1>take a call from Tim in Boston. Hey, guys, thanks

0:41:53.320 --> 0:41:55.920
<v Speaker 1>taking my Callie appreciate Nick. I'm one hund Just do

0:41:55.960 --> 0:41:57.960
<v Speaker 1>whatever we have to do to get Earl Thomas. Yeah,

0:41:58.080 --> 0:42:05.680
<v Speaker 1>but give up uh yeah, yeah that's tough. Yeah, I

0:42:05.719 --> 0:42:08.319
<v Speaker 1>can see that but you know what, Seattle's gonna lose

0:42:08.400 --> 0:42:12.600
<v Speaker 1>him anyways, and they know they're gonna lose him. A

0:42:12.719 --> 0:42:15.399
<v Speaker 1>second round pick should get this deal done. Like you said,

0:42:15.440 --> 0:42:18.320
<v Speaker 1>I agree that we should have the opportunity to negotiate

0:42:18.400 --> 0:42:21.520
<v Speaker 1>with his Asian him. But UM, I'm with you one

0:42:21.560 --> 0:42:24.359
<v Speaker 1>hundred ten percent on that. But the other thing was

0:42:25.000 --> 0:42:29.839
<v Speaker 1>is the position that I'm really concerned about is defensive tackle. Um.

0:42:29.920 --> 0:42:31.440
<v Speaker 1>I think I runs a good. I think a linebacker

0:42:31.480 --> 0:42:34.799
<v Speaker 1>is a good. I think our secondary is solid. I

0:42:34.920 --> 0:42:37.480
<v Speaker 1>think that if we bring the guy from Seattle here,

0:42:37.600 --> 0:42:41.719
<v Speaker 1>I think we get instant credibility. Um, why hasn't Why

0:42:41.760 --> 0:42:46.200
<v Speaker 1>haven't we spent more resources and assets at defensive tackle?

0:42:46.480 --> 0:42:49.560
<v Speaker 1>Dave Hellman Brian brought us. Um, they can play the

0:42:49.640 --> 0:42:52.280
<v Speaker 1>draft show. They always talked about defensive tackles and Dave's

0:42:52.560 --> 0:42:55.600
<v Speaker 1>more of Dave's most common you know quotes is until

0:42:55.680 --> 0:43:00.560
<v Speaker 1>this team spends the resource. Um, you know they then

0:43:00.560 --> 0:43:02.799
<v Speaker 1>he would do even talk about a guy. Why don't

0:43:02.840 --> 0:43:04.640
<v Speaker 1>they do that? Don't you think it's time hurt us now?

0:43:05.239 --> 0:43:08.080
<v Speaker 1>And you think that that that philosophy is starting to

0:43:08.080 --> 0:43:11.200
<v Speaker 1>show up. Yeah, I'll listen to you guys, off hit.

0:43:11.520 --> 0:43:14.480
<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much. So explain to me. Explain to me, though,

0:43:14.480 --> 0:43:16.480
<v Speaker 1>how how's it? How's it hurt them? At this point,

0:43:16.520 --> 0:43:18.120
<v Speaker 1>I say, I disagree with the point because I kind

0:43:18.120 --> 0:43:19.839
<v Speaker 1>of get the point. I just want to explain why.

0:43:19.960 --> 0:43:21.840
<v Speaker 1>How is how is what they've done so far a

0:43:21.920 --> 0:43:26.279
<v Speaker 1>defensive tackle hurt them? I just well, it's in the

0:43:26.320 --> 0:43:28.320
<v Speaker 1>grand scheme of things. I guess you could argue it

0:43:28.360 --> 0:43:32.480
<v Speaker 1>hasn't hurt them because their defenses have been all right, slash,

0:43:32.920 --> 0:43:36.480
<v Speaker 1>not that bad, but they're the talent at defensive tackle

0:43:36.560 --> 0:43:39.320
<v Speaker 1>has been lacking basically the whole time I've been covering

0:43:39.320 --> 0:43:41.560
<v Speaker 1>this team, Like, look everywhere else, they've never addressed it.

0:43:41.600 --> 0:43:44.839
<v Speaker 1>DeMarcus Lawrence with a high DeMarcus Lawrences pick thirty four,

0:43:44.920 --> 0:43:48.120
<v Speaker 1>Taco Charlton has picked twenty eight. Tyrone Crawford is pick

0:43:48.280 --> 0:43:54.120
<v Speaker 1>eighty one. Uh. Gregory Randy Gregory's pick sixty. Coney Ely

0:43:54.320 --> 0:43:56.920
<v Speaker 1>was picked sixty in his draft. And then you got

0:43:57.000 --> 0:44:00.560
<v Speaker 1>Malie Collins, who, to their credit, he was picked sixty seven. Uh.

0:44:00.719 --> 0:44:04.080
<v Speaker 1>And then like in terms of like guys that they

0:44:04.080 --> 0:44:06.600
<v Speaker 1>have brought in themselves, Daytone Jones was a first round

0:44:06.600 --> 0:44:09.160
<v Speaker 1>pick for the Packers six years ago, but they have

0:44:09.320 --> 0:44:13.399
<v Speaker 1>not spent those resources. They just haven't done it. And

0:44:13.640 --> 0:44:16.560
<v Speaker 1>I think the reason why is Marinelli doesn't That's not

0:44:16.640 --> 0:44:20.080
<v Speaker 1>the type of player he's trying to he's trying to

0:44:20.120 --> 0:44:21.759
<v Speaker 1>bring in for the in the first round. I think

0:44:21.760 --> 0:44:23.840
<v Speaker 1>he looks at it like, we can get other guys

0:44:23.840 --> 0:44:26.680
<v Speaker 1>in there. We can get you know, underdog type players

0:44:26.719 --> 0:44:28.759
<v Speaker 1>that can go up there and which lay well. Not

0:44:28.800 --> 0:44:31.560
<v Speaker 1>only that, I mean, if we want to get deep

0:44:31.600 --> 0:44:33.840
<v Speaker 1>into the draft weeds, we can. Stephen Jones said it

0:44:33.920 --> 0:44:36.520
<v Speaker 1>the combine and he caused a huge tizzie when he

0:44:36.560 --> 0:44:39.520
<v Speaker 1>did it. That like there there is not a pure

0:44:39.600 --> 0:44:41.880
<v Speaker 1>one technique that they would put a first round grade on.

0:44:42.000 --> 0:44:44.359
<v Speaker 1>They just won't do it. And that's you know, Vita Vea,

0:44:44.440 --> 0:44:47.360
<v Speaker 1>if y'all remember him, the Washington the monstrous d tackle.

0:44:47.840 --> 0:44:49.879
<v Speaker 1>You know, they said, well, we think he can do both,

0:44:49.880 --> 0:44:51.880
<v Speaker 1>so we give him a first round grade. But a

0:44:51.960 --> 0:44:55.440
<v Speaker 1>guy that's purely just a run stuffer. They don't value

0:44:55.440 --> 0:44:59.720
<v Speaker 1>that position. They set it themselves. And he's in Tampa.

0:44:59.760 --> 0:45:01.600
<v Speaker 1>I think he was like a top ten pick. I mean,

0:45:01.760 --> 0:45:05.239
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys twelve overall talk on draft night that he would

0:45:05.280 --> 0:45:07.480
<v Speaker 1>they wanted him, they would, they could maybe move up

0:45:07.520 --> 0:45:09.279
<v Speaker 1>to get him if he had if he falls, if

0:45:09.280 --> 0:45:11.800
<v Speaker 1>he had fallen, they certainly might have done something. But again,

0:45:12.440 --> 0:45:14.840
<v Speaker 1>that's because they saw him as a penetrating type of

0:45:14.840 --> 0:45:18.160
<v Speaker 1>defensive tackle as well. Whereas it kind of goes back

0:45:18.200 --> 0:45:21.080
<v Speaker 1>to my point again, Sorry, if we're getting into the draft, weeds,

0:45:21.120 --> 0:45:24.200
<v Speaker 1>but everybody was like, you know, they don't want Taco

0:45:24.239 --> 0:45:26.719
<v Speaker 1>because he doesn't have those right side end characteristics. You

0:45:26.840 --> 0:45:29.560
<v Speaker 1>gotta gotta come off the right side like Randy Gregory

0:45:29.600 --> 0:45:32.080
<v Speaker 1>and Ba Bah. That's why they traded up for DeMarcus

0:45:32.120 --> 0:45:34.319
<v Speaker 1>Lawrence because he was the last right end in that

0:45:34.360 --> 0:45:36.640
<v Speaker 1>class that they really thought could make a difference. Well,

0:45:37.040 --> 0:45:40.240
<v Speaker 1>what if you just draft a good left end? You're like, again,

0:45:40.320 --> 0:45:42.319
<v Speaker 1>I know people dog him because he could have been

0:45:42.360 --> 0:45:45.520
<v Speaker 1>Randy Moss, but like greg Ellis was a good, solid

0:45:45.520 --> 0:45:47.399
<v Speaker 1>defensive end. Maybe he didn't live up to the hype

0:45:47.440 --> 0:45:48.920
<v Speaker 1>of a first round pick, but like, you need those

0:45:48.960 --> 0:45:51.520
<v Speaker 1>type of players too, You need those guys, and that's

0:45:51.719 --> 0:45:53.719
<v Speaker 1>you need a good one technique. Just because he doesn't

0:45:53.719 --> 0:45:56.200
<v Speaker 1>get sacked doesn't mean sacks doesn't mean he's not good.

0:45:56.440 --> 0:45:58.520
<v Speaker 1>That's always driven me crazy, But I do think this,

0:45:58.840 --> 0:46:00.760
<v Speaker 1>I think there's a distinction has to be made between

0:46:00.760 --> 0:46:03.120
<v Speaker 1>one technique and three technique, because I think you can

0:46:03.200 --> 0:46:06.840
<v Speaker 1>get a good, solid one technique without spending the highest

0:46:06.880 --> 0:46:08.520
<v Speaker 1>draft pick that you have in order to do it.

0:46:08.640 --> 0:46:10.759
<v Speaker 1>Three technique, on the other hand, I think it's a

0:46:10.760 --> 0:46:12.880
<v Speaker 1>whole different story. So if you just talk about tackles,

0:46:13.040 --> 0:46:14.719
<v Speaker 1>like you look at the defenses in the league. To

0:46:14.840 --> 0:46:18.000
<v Speaker 1>have a a really a stud three technique, you look

0:46:18.000 --> 0:46:19.440
<v Speaker 1>at a guy like Aaron Down to look a guy

0:46:19.440 --> 0:46:21.720
<v Speaker 1>like Fletcher Cox, it makes a difference for the whole defense.

0:46:21.960 --> 0:46:23.920
<v Speaker 1>You give me the best one technique in the league,

0:46:24.200 --> 0:46:28.120
<v Speaker 1>doesn't really change their defense dramatically. I would argue that

0:46:28.160 --> 0:46:30.239
<v Speaker 1>if Snax Harrison was on this team, it would make

0:46:30.239 --> 0:46:33.359
<v Speaker 1>a dramatic difference. Yes, which to your point, it helps.

0:46:33.360 --> 0:46:35.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it. I'm gonna make a point

0:46:35.360 --> 0:46:37.640
<v Speaker 1>for you. He wasn't undrafted free age. There you go.

0:46:37.840 --> 0:46:42.360
<v Speaker 1>But like, obviously that's it's like a winning a lottery ticket.

0:46:42.440 --> 0:46:45.080
<v Speaker 1>Like they haven't had their best one technique in this

0:46:45.120 --> 0:46:48.440
<v Speaker 1>era has probably been Nick hayden Is. I'm not kidding.

0:46:49.080 --> 0:46:53.759
<v Speaker 1>What is Sean Lee's biggest issue? Okay, well, keep these

0:46:53.800 --> 0:46:56.000
<v Speaker 1>big guys off of him. With a big guy up front,

0:46:56.040 --> 0:46:57.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, why don't we ever try that route? Now

0:46:57.680 --> 0:46:59.680
<v Speaker 1>I know he's not in the middle anymore, but still

0:46:59.719 --> 0:47:03.279
<v Speaker 1>you're worried about the health of that. Then you're talking

0:47:03.280 --> 0:47:06.680
<v Speaker 1>about the conceptually how they play defense. That's not how

0:47:06.719 --> 0:47:09.920
<v Speaker 1>they're asking their play. But if you get a big,

0:47:10.000 --> 0:47:12.799
<v Speaker 1>big guys up front that not not these quick All

0:47:12.840 --> 0:47:14.879
<v Speaker 1>they're trying to do is just get trying to Okay,

0:47:14.880 --> 0:47:17.560
<v Speaker 1>but people run in this league. When they run and

0:47:17.560 --> 0:47:20.640
<v Speaker 1>they push those guys off the ball, uman you, well,

0:47:20.719 --> 0:47:22.759
<v Speaker 1>he'd be a good three. What's this movement one? Okay,

0:47:22.760 --> 0:47:24.840
<v Speaker 1>Millie Collins can't play also, so get rid of the

0:47:24.840 --> 0:47:27.319
<v Speaker 1>defensive coordinator because this is the the court, this is

0:47:27.360 --> 0:47:30.439
<v Speaker 1>the defense. I mean, that's my point. Like what you're saying,

0:47:30.440 --> 0:47:33.239
<v Speaker 1>what you're saying, what you're saying is change the philosophy.

0:47:33.360 --> 0:47:36.280
<v Speaker 1>And that's a different conversation then than change the personal.

0:47:36.480 --> 0:47:38.400
<v Speaker 1>And they're gonna play three four next year, That's what

0:47:38.440 --> 0:47:40.839
<v Speaker 1>I think I do. Tell them me on that. I'm

0:47:40.840 --> 0:47:43.040
<v Speaker 1>not sure I'm buying yet, that's kind of that's kind

0:47:43.080 --> 0:47:45.120
<v Speaker 1>of mind. Close to three four. You're getting closer than

0:47:45.160 --> 0:47:47.640
<v Speaker 1>you you have been in a while. If you wanted

0:47:47.680 --> 0:47:50.040
<v Speaker 1>to go there, let's save that for another day, but

0:47:50.320 --> 0:47:56.080
<v Speaker 1>tomorrow it's kind of caller. The caller kind of made

0:47:56.080 --> 0:47:57.840
<v Speaker 1>my point for me, which is it's a lot like,

0:47:57.920 --> 0:48:00.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, why are we whinding about Scotland and being

0:48:00.440 --> 0:48:02.759
<v Speaker 1>here in August? That bed is made. And it's the

0:48:02.800 --> 0:48:05.160
<v Speaker 1>same thing with defense, Like I don't even like talking

0:48:05.160 --> 0:48:07.680
<v Speaker 1>about it because as long as Rod Marinelli's calling the shots,

0:48:07.680 --> 0:48:09.080
<v Speaker 1>that's how they're going to play it. It's just the

0:48:09.120 --> 0:48:11.640
<v Speaker 1>way it is. And that's I said it all during

0:48:11.680 --> 0:48:14.120
<v Speaker 1>the spring is like we can talk about Vita Veatil

0:48:14.120 --> 0:48:16.279
<v Speaker 1>we're blue in the face. I refuse to believe he's

0:48:16.280 --> 0:48:18.239
<v Speaker 1>going to be on this team until it happens, and

0:48:18.360 --> 0:48:21.280
<v Speaker 1>that goes for anything else, which I got my problems

0:48:21.280 --> 0:48:23.440
<v Speaker 1>with it. I'm with Nick. I think Malie Collins should

0:48:23.440 --> 0:48:25.880
<v Speaker 1>be playing three technique. I agree with that. I hate

0:48:25.880 --> 0:48:28.400
<v Speaker 1>to insinuate that I know more about pass rushing than

0:48:28.480 --> 0:48:31.319
<v Speaker 1>Rod Marinelli because I absolutely don't. But he had a

0:48:31.360 --> 0:48:35.360
<v Speaker 1>great rookie year and not so great second year because

0:48:35.360 --> 0:48:38.279
<v Speaker 1>of that positions which I didn't like it. Factor in

0:48:38.320 --> 0:48:40.640
<v Speaker 1>the fact that you can't count on David Irving, and

0:48:40.680 --> 0:48:43.080
<v Speaker 1>there's just not a lot of reasons to feel great

0:48:43.080 --> 0:48:45.680
<v Speaker 1>about that position. I completely agree with him. Even if

0:48:46.040 --> 0:48:49.600
<v Speaker 1>Jihad Ward and Diatone Jones or Diamonds in the rough,

0:48:49.719 --> 0:48:53.879
<v Speaker 1>which they very well could be, it's not enough. So yeah,

0:48:53.960 --> 0:48:56.879
<v Speaker 1>that's how I feel. Shout out Brian Price, though he's

0:48:57.000 --> 0:49:00.000
<v Speaker 1>he's flashed still. Like Brian Price, I've been saying since

0:49:00.080 --> 0:49:05.839
<v Speaker 1>last year, I think maybe maybe they don't like he

0:49:05.920 --> 0:49:08.040
<v Speaker 1>might be the best thing they have in a one

0:49:08.080 --> 0:49:10.600
<v Speaker 1>technique right in terms of and so maybe if he

0:49:10.640 --> 0:49:12.920
<v Speaker 1>can keep it up, maybe he can be your trash

0:49:12.960 --> 0:49:16.839
<v Speaker 1>can of dirt let Malik, and when David Irving comes back,

0:49:16.880 --> 0:49:22.040
<v Speaker 1>he can do the same health I mean, don't hit

0:49:22.200 --> 0:49:25.600
<v Speaker 1>that play we saw Frederick just yeah, yeah, but you're

0:49:25.640 --> 0:49:28.359
<v Speaker 1>not gonna win every play. Not asking you to win

0:49:28.400 --> 0:49:33.400
<v Speaker 1>every play, I'm asking not to get smashed to the ground.

0:49:32.000 --> 0:49:36.600
<v Speaker 1>Brian Price absolutely returned the favor yesterday. He threw Travis

0:49:36.600 --> 0:49:39.440
<v Speaker 1>Rerecord to the ground. Yeah he did, just saying yeah,

0:49:39.480 --> 0:49:42.799
<v Speaker 1>I usually don't see Travis on the ground, and when

0:49:42.800 --> 0:49:47.240
<v Speaker 1>I saw him, my damn Price. Probably I think Price

0:49:47.360 --> 0:49:49.560
<v Speaker 1>is a legit one technique. He's probably the best one

0:49:49.560 --> 0:49:51.600
<v Speaker 1>technique you got on this team right now. In my opinion,

0:49:51.920 --> 0:49:55.080
<v Speaker 1>I would agree with that. Yes, even and I don't

0:49:55.080 --> 0:49:57.839
<v Speaker 1>think Malik is a particularly effective one. So even if

0:49:57.920 --> 0:50:00.759
<v Speaker 1>Malik was practicing, I think Brian Price might better. I agree.

0:50:00.840 --> 0:50:03.759
<v Speaker 1>What about miss Price, I hadn't heard her yet. I

0:50:03.800 --> 0:50:07.600
<v Speaker 1>haven't heard her either. He thinks he's a one technique. Jeez,

0:50:08.400 --> 0:50:10.920
<v Speaker 1>all right, Well here's a question from Twitter. And since

0:50:11.120 --> 0:50:14.799
<v Speaker 1>we've been talking about everything on the team, let's just

0:50:14.920 --> 0:50:18.479
<v Speaker 1>might as well hit defensive end. Randy Gregory. He still

0:50:18.520 --> 0:50:23.400
<v Speaker 1>hasn't practice with the team, but he's active now and

0:50:23.560 --> 0:50:26.680
<v Speaker 1>we've seen him kind of doing his little workouts. One nick,

0:50:26.960 --> 0:50:30.880
<v Speaker 1>he talks to thee my God, like, can I finish

0:50:31.160 --> 0:50:33.719
<v Speaker 1>saying anything. Let's go, let's get let's get to it.

0:50:33.880 --> 0:50:36.560
<v Speaker 1>Randy Gregory. He talks a little bit about his um

0:50:37.440 --> 0:50:41.239
<v Speaker 1>um weight. He says, my weight is like Lebron James's hair.

0:50:41.280 --> 0:50:43.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't really, I don't. I don't talk about its fleeting.

0:50:43.760 --> 0:50:46.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't talk about it. I just say he can't

0:50:46.360 --> 0:50:49.600
<v Speaker 1>keep it. He goes, I'm too, I'm two twenty two eighty.

0:50:49.680 --> 0:50:52.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm somewhere between two twenty to two eighty. That's where

0:50:52.040 --> 0:50:54.239
<v Speaker 1>he is. Jason Garrett put a hard number on it.

0:50:54.440 --> 0:50:56.439
<v Speaker 1>He did so, and it was like a hard number.

0:50:56.560 --> 0:51:02.719
<v Speaker 1>Two forty two. Yeah, he said, he's like more than that.

0:51:02.800 --> 0:51:05.680
<v Speaker 1>He's like, yeah, more than that two fifty. He just

0:51:05.800 --> 0:51:07.319
<v Speaker 1>then he started like all right, you're not gonna get

0:51:07.360 --> 0:51:09.920
<v Speaker 1>me on that. But he definitely looks like he's Is

0:51:09.960 --> 0:51:12.640
<v Speaker 1>it a state secret? Who cares? Why? Why is that

0:51:12.680 --> 0:51:16.680
<v Speaker 1>a big deal? I don't know, but uh, yeah, he's

0:51:16.680 --> 0:51:18.920
<v Speaker 1>eligible to go through walkthroughs now. I got. Yeah, we

0:51:18.920 --> 0:51:21.000
<v Speaker 1>didn't really hit the hard news today. I mean, it's

0:51:21.040 --> 0:51:22.799
<v Speaker 1>not hard news, and I'll tell you why I don't.

0:51:22.800 --> 0:51:24.560
<v Speaker 1>He's not going to be in practice before this team

0:51:24.560 --> 0:51:27.480
<v Speaker 1>plays its first preseason game. That's my bet. Do you

0:51:27.480 --> 0:51:29.719
<v Speaker 1>think he'll do? You think he'll be ready to play

0:51:29.719 --> 0:51:31.360
<v Speaker 1>in the preseason this year, and if so, maybe the

0:51:31.400 --> 0:51:33.680
<v Speaker 1>last preseason games that would I think Jason Garrett has

0:51:33.680 --> 0:51:36.160
<v Speaker 1>stated that's the goal, and I don't see why not.

0:51:36.239 --> 0:51:39.319
<v Speaker 1>Like the preseason doesn't end until August thirtieth, you really

0:51:39.600 --> 0:51:42.439
<v Speaker 1>can't get him into one of those at least. So

0:51:43.080 --> 0:51:45.880
<v Speaker 1>I think he will practice in pads before we leave Oxnard,

0:51:46.440 --> 0:51:49.600
<v Speaker 1>and I think he will play in maybe not the

0:51:49.640 --> 0:51:54.160
<v Speaker 1>Bengals game Cardinals August twenty six. That's what I'm circling.

0:51:54.200 --> 0:51:57.920
<v Speaker 1>The rehearsal, the dress rehearsal as we like to call it. Okay,

0:51:58.160 --> 0:52:00.600
<v Speaker 1>he needs to play before that. I think, in my opinion,

0:52:00.680 --> 0:52:03.719
<v Speaker 1>maybe he will, just because I mean, he's gonna make

0:52:03.719 --> 0:52:05.479
<v Speaker 1>the team. But I think you got to figure out

0:52:06.480 --> 0:52:08.439
<v Speaker 1>is does he play in the games? Is he gonna

0:52:08.480 --> 0:52:09.880
<v Speaker 1>be in the fifty three or is he gonna be

0:52:10.000 --> 0:52:13.359
<v Speaker 1>in the forty six? And to determine that is going

0:52:13.400 --> 0:52:16.080
<v Speaker 1>to affect well, what about Tapper? What about these other guys?

0:52:16.120 --> 0:52:17.919
<v Speaker 1>Who else is gonna play? So it's a good point.

0:52:17.960 --> 0:52:19.480
<v Speaker 1>I think he does need to play a little bit,

0:52:19.520 --> 0:52:24.000
<v Speaker 1>sooner hopefully he can. We shall see go ahead, I

0:52:24.040 --> 0:52:28.200
<v Speaker 1>mean you're hosting. Um moving on to the what do

0:52:28.239 --> 0:52:31.400
<v Speaker 1>you think like other than Randy, Other than Randy Gregory,

0:52:31.520 --> 0:52:35.120
<v Speaker 1>who is clearly and totally a three four outside linebacker,

0:52:35.160 --> 0:52:38.240
<v Speaker 1>why do you think this team has three four personnel? Um?

0:52:38.760 --> 0:52:42.319
<v Speaker 1>I think from a linebacker. First of all, you've got

0:52:42.360 --> 0:52:45.440
<v Speaker 1>these defensive ends that can kind of play tackle in

0:52:45.600 --> 0:52:48.719
<v Speaker 1>whatever I think Taco, I think Tyrone Crawford would be

0:52:48.760 --> 0:52:52.920
<v Speaker 1>really good ends in this technique. And yes, and I

0:52:52.960 --> 0:52:56.120
<v Speaker 1>could see DeMarcus Lawrence on the outside. I definitely, I mean,

0:52:56.160 --> 0:52:58.080
<v Speaker 1>Gregory would be great if you can count on that,

0:52:58.160 --> 0:53:00.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm not really sure. But I'm not sure Jalen Smith

0:53:00.040 --> 0:53:03.040
<v Speaker 1>couldn't be an outside three four defensive end. I like

0:53:03.200 --> 0:53:05.960
<v Speaker 1>Layton in the middle. I like, um, the Sean Lee

0:53:05.960 --> 0:53:08.600
<v Speaker 1>in the middle. Um, and then you know you gotta

0:53:08.640 --> 0:53:12.160
<v Speaker 1>get me another um. No. I mean you'd be good

0:53:12.160 --> 0:53:13.560
<v Speaker 1>there you had those two guys in the middle of

0:53:13.560 --> 0:53:15.840
<v Speaker 1>the nose, right, you gotta get a nose. But I

0:53:15.840 --> 0:53:17.640
<v Speaker 1>mean I think you need one. Now. I don't know

0:53:17.800 --> 0:53:21.160
<v Speaker 1>exactly where Molik would play. I don't, But then again,

0:53:21.239 --> 0:53:23.839
<v Speaker 1>I mean I saw Jay Ratlin. Yeah, I say Jay

0:53:23.880 --> 0:53:26.440
<v Speaker 1>Rale can play the nose. Yeah, the unfortunate when you

0:53:26.480 --> 0:53:28.640
<v Speaker 1>make it, when you make a personnel switch like that,

0:53:28.680 --> 0:53:31.040
<v Speaker 1>like somebody's gonna be sol that's just the way I go.

0:53:31.120 --> 0:53:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, But I mean you can't count on David Irving.

0:53:34.000 --> 0:53:37.640
<v Speaker 1>But David Irving would be an outstanding three four end. Yeah,

0:53:37.840 --> 0:53:42.200
<v Speaker 1>just defensive end. I'm not I hesitate to bet against him,

0:53:42.200 --> 0:53:44.359
<v Speaker 1>but I have a hard time to seeing Tank as

0:53:44.360 --> 0:53:48.160
<v Speaker 1>a three four linebacker. Like he's very athletic, he's obviously

0:53:48.160 --> 0:53:50.879
<v Speaker 1>great at what he does, but like Randy's just got that. Yeah.

0:53:51.920 --> 0:53:53.719
<v Speaker 1>But I will say this though, David. I mean, and

0:53:53.760 --> 0:53:55.439
<v Speaker 1>you might you might know some names you can throw

0:53:55.440 --> 0:53:57.600
<v Speaker 1>out here. I have a hard time thinking about a

0:53:57.640 --> 0:54:00.920
<v Speaker 1>really good hand in the ground four three defensive end

0:54:01.400 --> 0:54:04.120
<v Speaker 1>that got switched to a three four outside stand up

0:54:04.120 --> 0:54:07.399
<v Speaker 1>linebacker that wasn't better, right, I mean most of them,

0:54:07.600 --> 0:54:09.960
<v Speaker 1>they they they're sacks, go through the roof. If they're

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<v Speaker 1>good up with their hand in the ground, you stand

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<v Speaker 1>them up, they get better. It seems like h and

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<v Speaker 1>again I may be missing some guys that didn't obviously

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<v Speaker 1>make that job, but I think it seems like that

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<v Speaker 1>to me. I think you make that movie. I think

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<v Speaker 1>you could make that move and and have to maybe

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<v Speaker 1>do a you can do it in one offseason now

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<v Speaker 1>and do maybe one or two, you know, one or

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<v Speaker 1>two changes. I think I think you could play it

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<v Speaker 1>if you needed to, well, if you if you wanted.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, for the sake of argument, we all love

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<v Speaker 1>Christopher Shard. I mean he's for three all the way. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so as Nick says he's gonna be them here for well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's I mean, that's kind of what I was getting at.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I was intimating. Okay, clear, yesterday, well, the

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<v Speaker 1>boys have started their little yoga sesh. So you say

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<v Speaker 1>it's so dismissively little yoga, which is very helpful. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I absolutely agree, and it's exciting to see them doing

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<v Speaker 1>this kind of stuff now. So anyways, that is all

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<v Speaker 1>the time we have for today. We'll see what Nick

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<v Speaker 1>does tomorrow and yes you are, yes, he will be hosting.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna see how this goes. I want to see

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<v Speaker 1>how this experiment works for Nikki Men, Derrick Ingleton, David Hellman,

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<v Speaker 1>remember GARCS. See you guys next time tomorrow on the break.

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