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Speaker 1: still at training camp. It's episode nineteen, by the way, Oh,

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Speaker 1: thank you for season fourteen. Season fourteen, Episode nineteen. Okay, awesome,

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Speaker 1: But let's get to the name. Let's get to the name. Sam. Wow,

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Speaker 1: Today our main focus is welcome to training camp. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: before the break, Derek gave us his highlight of practice,

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Speaker 1: the middle and he scored. They said he didn't score

426
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Speaker 1: because he's not there's no tackling. He would have scored

427
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Speaker 1: out of my mind. Yeah, that's one thing I don't

428
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Speaker 1: like about the defense and offense part of these padded

429
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Speaker 1: or these padded practices. But even when they're not hitting,

430
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Speaker 1: a lot of times a defensive player will come up

431
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Speaker 1: right up there and he'd be like, oh, that makes

432
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Speaker 1: some noise. I'm like, you wouldn't have tackled Zeke like

433
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Speaker 1: you guys met at the twenty five yard line. The

434
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Speaker 1: ball is gonna be on the twenty one. There's no

435
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Speaker 1: way you're gonna just bring him down right there when

436
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Speaker 1: he's going full speed, if you're going to tackle them

437
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Speaker 1: at all. But they don't ever account for that, which

438
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,920
Speaker 1: is fine. You know sometimes like these these guys will

439
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 1: blitz and then they'll like touch the quarterbacks back that sack. Yeah, listen,

440
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 1: I've seen that a thousand times, like just touching the guy.

441
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 1: Actually the Terrence one handed catch. Cony Eely had a

442
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Speaker 1: shot at Dak, but I'm gonna give Dak the benefit

443
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Speaker 1: of the doubt. I've seen him right, seen him resist

444
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 1: full speed pass rushers before. I think he could have

445
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Speaker 1: gotten away. Can I throw out this question real quick? Nick,

446
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 1: maybe think about this because we haven't really talked about this,

447
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 1: I don't think. But you talk about Zeke and his ability,

448
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 1: like you try to take him down the middle of Phil,

449
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,159
Speaker 1: He's probably gonna carry you a little bit. How much

450
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Speaker 1: do you think this new rule in the NFL when

451
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Speaker 1: it comes to luring your head affects a guy like

452
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Speaker 1: Zeke who is a power back. He's got some speed.

453
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Speaker 1: But he's a power back. He will hit you. How

454
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Speaker 1: much do you think that's gonna affect them? Do you

455
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Speaker 1: expect him to be one of the guys ends up

456
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Speaker 1: with one of these penalties this season? Yeah, I think

457
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Speaker 1: that's gonna happen. Depends on how much they call it,

458
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,160
Speaker 1: and I think certain crews will probably call it more

459
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Speaker 1: than others. But you're really asking, you know, they're trying

460
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Speaker 1: to prevent, you know, concussions and and obviously the of

461
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 1: safety of the team. But um, you you bring it.

462
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 1: How many running backs have you ever seen? There are six? Three?

463
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,159
Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't happen much. You don't see a

464
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Speaker 1: lot of running backs that run straight up like that

465
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 1: because they're gonna get hit, so natural instincts are to

466
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 1: kind of crawl down like that, ball up and get down.

467
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,360
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't know. I don't something's gonna give here.

468
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 1: Because you just come running straight like that, you're gonna

469
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 1: get You're gonna get hurt as well, So I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that. I don't. I hopefully they don't

471
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Speaker 1: call that as much, you know, I mean, you know

472
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Speaker 1: you gotta and they say you got a nose for

473
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Speaker 1: the nose for the goal line. I mean where that's

474
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Speaker 1: what you're doing. You're like loading your head and get

475
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Speaker 1: in there. It's I don't know, they wear helmets right.

476
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Speaker 1: One could be wrong, but I'm I just I believe

477
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Speaker 1: this rule is going to have a major impact on

478
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Speaker 1: the game when I see it happen. Because it happened,

479
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Speaker 1: I'm not buying because well, they did something like this

480
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Speaker 1: a few years ago. Me and Nick have talked about it.

481
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Speaker 1: I we you know, every year they show us a

482
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Speaker 1: video of the new rules, and I remember, uh, you

483
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 1: know that it was kind of like a baby version

484
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 1: of this, where like if the running back was inside

485
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,880
Speaker 1: the tackle box and he lowered his head and used

486
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Speaker 1: his head first, it was going to be a penalty.

487
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 1: And they showed a bunch of clips from Trent Richardson

488
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Speaker 1: because that's how he used to run. And they never

489
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Speaker 1: called it because that doesn't happen that often in all honesty, like, yeah,

490
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Speaker 1: you take contact to your head. You don't lead with

491
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Speaker 1: your head that often, I don't think, and if you do,

492
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Speaker 1: I think that can be corrected. You know, you try

493
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Speaker 1: to ward people off with your hand, with your shoulder,

494
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,679
Speaker 1: maybe your helmet takes contact just because it's a physical sport.

495
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Speaker 1: But I don't think it's that common to see a

496
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Speaker 1: running back genuinely lead with his head like actually try to,

497
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 1: you know, bowl people. But the only problem with that

498
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Speaker 1: is I think that when you when you're running and

499
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 1: you lean down to lead with your shoulder, and we've

500
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,400
Speaker 1: seen this with the hits that come to from defensive

501
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 1: backs to receivers, you lean down to give him a shoulder.

502
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 1: But because of the way things kind of work out,

503
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 1: now there's helmet contact. How I guess my point is,

504
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Speaker 1: I don't think they'll call it that, don't think because

505
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 1: when it's in a situation of a safety or a

506
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 1: cornerback making a hit like that, it's bang bang contact,

507
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Speaker 1: Whereas when you know you're running you kind of see

508
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:10,880
Speaker 1: the hit line up a little bit more. When you're

509
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Speaker 1: talking about a running back, you have more time to

510
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 1: brace for it. And I just I don't I don't

511
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 1: think the refs will be that strict with it. Maybe

512
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 1: I'm wrong, but I really think this is a lot

513
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 1: of hand ringing about something that's not going to matter

514
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 1: that much. That's just getting way too peaky. I mean,

515
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: I get the reasoning behind it, but to be able

516
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Speaker 1: to watch that and see and call it every time,

517
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 1: and especially when you're trying to get those extra yards,

518
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna lean like that with your body to get those.

519
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 1: So DeMarco Murray had a play against the Eagles a

520
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,159
Speaker 1: few years ago when he was with the Cowboys, but

521
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 1: he really kind of leaned in and struck the linebacker

522
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 1: and knocked him down. And that was a play. It

523
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: was very noticeable and you could tell he was he

524
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Speaker 1: kind of targeted him. And if that happens that, yeah,

525
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Speaker 1: I think that's one that you'll call. But I just

526
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Speaker 1: don't see, you know, somebody catching at eight yards third

527
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,159
Speaker 1: and eight or third and ten and then having to

528
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 1: die for the goal. And I just don't see them

529
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: calling it like that. Agreed, Which, yeah, that would that

530
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,160
Speaker 1: would get called, and DeMarco did do that from time

531
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 1: to time, but it wasn't something that happened every time

532
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 1: you touch the ball. So, okay, let's jump into our

533
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Speaker 1: main topic of the day, which, as I mentioned earlier,

534
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Speaker 1: it was linebacker. Yesterday, we all got a chance to

535
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 1: watch all the linebacker group and we know the Cowboys

536
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: spent their first round pick this year on a linebacker

537
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Speaker 1: late in vendoresh And we've talked about how kind of

538
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: difficult it is to evaluate this guy is out here

539
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,120
Speaker 1: just because of the whole thing where you can you're

540
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 1: not really tackling or anything. So let's just go over

541
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Speaker 1: each guy. I'm gonna start. If that's okay, it's just

542
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:51,199
Speaker 1: like make sure and get I mean, we're gonna make

543
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Speaker 1: your host next time. Cool, that's cool. Actually that's a

544
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 1: good idea. Why don't you hose tomorrow? Okay? Sounds good? Um?

545
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 1: Can I start? Is that good? I mean, I don't

546
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: grabbing my wheels still still my point? Um, you don't

547
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,640
Speaker 1: even know what the question was, but go ahead, what's

548
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 1: the question? Let me got a all right? Um? Actually

549
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 1: in the Star of the Day that that I wrote

550
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: about was Joe Thomas. I think I think he actually

551
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 1: is doing a really nice job on UM in pass coverage.

552
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: He's replacing Sean Lee who's not practiced yet in the

553
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: padded UH practices, and they're showing some some depth there.

554
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: Obviously last year when Sean Lee went down, UH, that

555
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,679
Speaker 1: was one of the three guys they really did not

556
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,880
Speaker 1: have an answer for from the defensive prospective. So Joe

557
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: Thomas has come in here, and I think he's going

558
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: to be a player that that he'll get on the

559
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 1: field at some point. But at least they're showing them

560
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 1: that they've got some depth there behind Sean. If they

561
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: need to do that, he's got good. He might actually

562
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 1: play something in the diamond the nickel because he seems

563
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: like he can cover the tight ends, at least these

564
00:27:55,480 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 1: tight ends. Uh. It is hard to evaluate linebackers because

565
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 1: it's such a physical position and these are not physical practices,

566
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 1: you know, compared to real football. But the scouting report

567
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 1: on Layton Vanderesh is that he's good in coverage and

568
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: he has shown glimpses of that out here. He's had

569
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 1: some really nice plays. He broke up a pass and

570
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: seven on seven yesterday. The day before that the justin

571
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 1: March Lillard pick six that we talked about where Chris

572
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: Richard was so excited he broke that up. It was

573
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Speaker 1: a tight end. I want to say it was Blake Jarwin. Yeah,

574
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 1: Layton Vanderesh got in there and punched that ball out.

575
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 1: He has shown some ability there, which ironically he gave

576
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 1: up the touchdown to Dalton Schultz on the last play

577
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: a practice yesterday. But what did he do. When that

578
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 1: was over, he was out there with the goat Jeff

579
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: Heath working on angles and pursuit and stuff like that

580
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: for probably ten fifteen solid minutes after practice. So he's

581
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: showing glimpses of his athleticism is off the charts, and

582
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: if he knows where to be, I think he could

583
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: be really good in that record. Do you think won

584
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Speaker 1: the battle? It was a compete battle between him and

585
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: jamaz Ola. Wally called it a tie. I mean they

586
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: they were definitely locked in for about like three seconds

587
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: and then he he eventually you know, ripped him and

588
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: got to the quarterback. But I would think ball would

589
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: have been gone by now. I mean, I think Garrett

590
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 1: actually gave it to Olda Wally. I think he did. Yeah,

591
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: but it was it was a physical hit where you're like,

592
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: I feel good about the linebacker being able to go

593
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: in here and do that. I feel good about OLDA

594
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: Walley being able to kind of stand there and watch.

595
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: Forty five seconds before that, Dalton Schultz got thrown like

596
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: a sack of laundry. That was probably Yeah, you were like,

597
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: oh man, somebody's got a hey. Good for him, well,

598
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: good for one, good for that. Watch Dalton Schultz today

599
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: and see if I watched yesterday, I know he he

600
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,239
Speaker 1: he finished strong. He caught a touchdown at the end

601
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: of practice. Yeah, but I honestly, and I don't want

602
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: to get too far and tight ends. We'll talk about

603
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: that tomorrow, but there. I just think right now tight

604
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: end position has some work to do. Of all the

605
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: positions on the team, that's the position I think right

606
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: now they got they need some work. Yes, we knew

607
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: Tony Romo was was really good. We knew he was good.

608
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: Some people called him great when he played for the Cowboys.

609
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: When he left the Cowboys, you really saw, you know

610
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 1: how how great he wasn't how he made other players great. Now,

611
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: Dak they had that that awesome year. I kind of

612
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 1: think Romo they would have had an awesome year as well.

613
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,959
Speaker 1: We're seeing Dez isn't the same without him. The offense

614
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 1: wasn't the same. Definitely in twenty fifteen. We're gonna see

615
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: that by leaps and bounds with the tight end position.

616
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 1: We're seeing it now. There's no yeah, yes, good good

617
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: play by by Schultz there to make a catch in

618
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: the red zone, but he got dumped on his ascid blocking.

619
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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, he's good hit at this and Jarwin

620
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: can block, but he's not really good out here. And

621
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Speaker 1: I don't know what Rico can do yet, but Witton

622
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 1: could just do it all. And I think that's what

623
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: I'm trying to say. We were spoiled. I think we

624
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 1: definitely talked about it. Like day one in pads, Blake

625
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: Jarwin got dumped by Charles Tapper too, like it's not

626
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: just Alton Schultz like these guys particularly, And that's that's

627
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: my point. I think all these guys can catch the

628
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 1: ball and Swam can block a little bit. I don't

629
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Speaker 1: know if that's I wouldn't describe him as a blocking

630
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: tight end, but the blocking is what concerns me, especially

631
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: for a team that has liked to use tight ends

632
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: to blocks that you got to get a new tight end,

633
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: guys up tomorrow. We're just doing something else. You will

634
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: pick another position to talk about tomorrow. Let's just keep

635
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: going with it, the three flowing conversation. Stop trying to

636
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: about Earl Thomas every every single seriously. I mean, there

637
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Speaker 1: isn't a lot to talk about there though, and we

638
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Speaker 1: just did it. We'll talk about the tight ends tomorrow

639
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: and hopefully after today's practice, they can get over the average.

640
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: Right now, you want you have something more to say

641
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Speaker 1: about the linebackers. I mean, we've talked about the one person.

642
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: I'll talk about Jay and I actually spent some time

643
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: watching Jalen yesterday and I wanted to see more than

644
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Speaker 1: anything else. Again, when you're out here practice, you can't

645
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Speaker 1: really tell the linebacker like you but both of you

646
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 1: guys are said, But what what I was looking for

647
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: is how fluid he looks. Is he reacting quickly when

648
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: he has to make a cut and go in another direction?

649
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: Can he do that without looking as though he's lumbering

650
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: to bring that leg along? And to me, again, I'm

651
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: not a scout, I'm not a coach, but to me,

652
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: he looked like he's pretty fluid. It looks much better

653
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: than he looked last year in my opinion. What that

654
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: means for the season, who knows. But at this point,

655
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: right now, what I'm seeing, he looks a lot different

656
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: than he looks three hundred and sixty five days ago.

657
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: When we were out here and he was trying to

658
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: move around, it wasn't quite looking as fluid as my

659
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 1: developing theory, and it won't be this clear cut, because

660
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: just like offense, you can't be so one dimensional that

661
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: you're tipping off the defense, like I mean, you know

662
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: what I mean. Yeah, it can't be so to one

663
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: dimensional you're tipping off the other team. So if Jalen's

664
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: only in there on running downs, the offense is going

665
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: to throw. But I just think they're working it to

666
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: a point where Layton vander esh can deal with the

667
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: passing aspects, so to speak, and Jalen Smith looks like

668
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: he could really be great as like an early down linebacker.

669
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: I know you want more than that, and I think

670
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: he's capable of doing more than that, but I think

671
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 1: that's a great place to start. That's what I was

672
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: going to ask you. How do you expect the Kyle

673
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: voice to utilize both of them? I just it's so

674
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: much fun to think about. I think about it more

675
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: than anything else. I don't know about that we'll think

676
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: about the linebacker position in terms of the team, Yeah, probably.

677
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: I just I just think it's fascinating. You have so

678
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: much talent there and uh and and every time we

679
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: talk to him about it that you're like, well, we

680
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: can find time for all of these guys to play,

681
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: and so if it's If it's third and twelve, I

682
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: bet you Layton vander esh will be playing linebacker. And

683
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: if it's third and three, I bet it'll be Jalen Smith.

684
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: And you can Jalen's been doing more blitzing than he

685
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: did last year, and that's I think that is a

686
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: hallmark of Chris rah Shard. I can't wait to see

687
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: if it carries over to the season because Rod Marinelli

688
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: is notorious for not blitzing, and that gives you an

689
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: idea of how much influenced Chris rah Shard has. If

690
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: all of a sudden they start doing that to a

691
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: much higher degree, so pressuring the quarterback being near the

692
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. I think Jalen can do a lot

693
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: of that stuff. I think he could play Sam in

694
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: a lot of situations. Um, you know, a part of

695
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: the the blitzing stuff too. And this is why I

696
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: think Christopher Chard is gonna have a big factor into this.

697
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: Is that you have bigger cornerbacks now that are longer,

698
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: that are more physical. They're gonna get in your face.

699
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: You trust them more to blitz. You can blitz more

700
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: people because it's like I'll trust you for one or

701
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 1: two seconds because we're gonna be close, we're gonna be physical,

702
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: and we're not gonna give you anything right off the bat.

703
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'll send three or four more guys there

704
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 1: because you're gonna have to rush you quickly. We're not

705
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: gonna get beat in two seconds. You know, we might

706
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Speaker 1: get beaten four or five, but not two. And I

707
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: think that's that style that Chris Schard wants to play.

708
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: It's gonna be more conducive to blitzing a little bit more.

709
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: And that's honestly why I thinking we talk about it

710
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:37,479
Speaker 1: a lot on the show. It's one of the reasons

711
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,879
Speaker 1: why I think this team has not gotten as many

712
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 1: interceptions over the last how many years, is because I

713
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: don't think they play the type of defense that will

714
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: lend itself to that. They don't let the cornerbacks really

715
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 1: play physical and send the extra pressure. So quarterback has

716
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Speaker 1: to get it out quick, sometimes get it out before

717
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 1: he's ready, sometimes get it out off target. Sometimes the

718
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: receivers and where you're supposed to be. All those things

719
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: turn into picks. I don't think they do that enough

720
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: and give themselves those and give themselves those kinds of opportunities.

721
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:05,879
Speaker 1: Now you can get beat on that, but I think

722
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 1: you also give yourself some chance for some turnovers that

723
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: that they haven't really been able to get. Where do

724
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 1: you think that the power Have you seen power rankings

725
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys overall, like you mean like ESPN? Yeah,

726
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: just like, oh this is where they are not really

727
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: like my guess is their middle of the league. I

728
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: saw actually sixteen Yeah yeah, Yahoo Sports. I don't think

729
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 1: they're even done with it, but they do like a

730
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 1: team a day starting with thirty two and going up

731
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Speaker 1: to one. And I think the Cowboys were fourteen, yeah,

732
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:36,720
Speaker 1: thirteen that sounds okay, yeah, just just making the trade.

733
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: Like we talked about, you put him in on this defense.

734
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Speaker 1: Where do you think where do you think that the

735
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: rankings would be? Then I think immediately they would damp

736
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Speaker 1: probably three spots. I did too, I think eight nine.

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Speaker 1: I think they'll jump three. You look at this this

738
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: defense now and you and just think of you know,

739
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: you got Heath that you would have Thomas, you'd have

740
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Speaker 1: you know, the Byron and Cheeto, the linebackers that you,

741
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,800
Speaker 1: like you said, got the talent, got a one of

742
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 1: the top five pass rushers maybe in the league. Problem,

743
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,720
Speaker 1: the problem and that's their weak side of the ball.

744
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: As we've talked about the Broder and special teams, guys

745
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,720
Speaker 1: that are really good. And then you got an offense

746
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: that's from a from a national perspective, which I think

747
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 1: we can all agree is usually three steps behind us.

748
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: Not to pat us on the back too much, but

749
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Speaker 1: I think the questions on the offense are big enough

750
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Speaker 1: that it wouldn't drastically change anybody's opinion. It would still

751
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: be is that going to be good? And who's catching

752
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: the ball? Yeah? But the difference is the difference is

753
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 1: because everybody respects this offensive line and respects this running game.

754
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 1: If they feel like this defense can actually be a

755
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: defense that can get stops, it does change their opinion

756
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 1: on the team overall. It would be why it would

757
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: be wild if the Dallas Cowboys, who have been middling

758
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: to bad on defense as long as I can remember, like,

759
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 1: were contenders because of their defense and their run. That'd

760
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,080
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761
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:55,840
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762
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,440
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Speaker 1: you know, all you have to do is ways with

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Speaker 1: Back to the break, all right, we just spend the

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Speaker 1: whole break. Nick and Derek have been arguing about what

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Speaker 1: they would arguing as harsh for this trade to get

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00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: that safety over here, and we don't need to get

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Speaker 1: back into it. But Nick, honestly, I mean it shifted.

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Speaker 1: Do you have a says it just shifted to oh

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Speaker 1: what Basically what I was saying is it mightn't take

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Speaker 1: Then it's like, yeah, play which player? Um and one

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Speaker 1: of y'all throughout? Would you would you include Heath in

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Speaker 1: the deal, and I'm like, no, I'm not gonna do

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Speaker 1: that because now I feel like I could be back

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Speaker 1: to square one. Yes, my safety is gonna be better

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Speaker 1: than with Tom. So that's the deal breaker. If I

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Speaker 1: got to part with Heath. Now I'm out. I don't

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Speaker 1: have that one thing. I don't have to part. If

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Speaker 1: they liked him and they said, what'll get us to

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Speaker 1: do this, we will do that third round that you

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Speaker 1: talked about. But you gotta give us heat. And you're

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Speaker 1: saying that's your deal breaker. That's what he was saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's other ways to do I don't. I'm sorry, I

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Speaker 1: like Jeff, that's not my deal break. My safety position

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Speaker 1: is here and I want to take it here. Now

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Speaker 1: it's like, well, now we're gonna be back to here.

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Speaker 1: It's not not. If you got Earl Thomas, he's not

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Speaker 1: gonna be back down here. Let me finish. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna bring it up, but I think he's gonna

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Speaker 1: bring it up a little bit more than what it was.

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Speaker 1: Golden State's not trying to give up Curry to get cousins.

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Speaker 1: They want cousins with all of them. They want them

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Speaker 1: all did just compare the greatest three point shooter at

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Speaker 1: basketball history. Yes, okay, well the goat. Then I'm saying

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to just rob Peter to pay Paul.

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Speaker 1: I want all of them to play. I will gladly, well,

848
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: gladly employ Earl Thomas and let Cavan Fraser figure it

849
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,479
Speaker 1: out as strong safety. I would, It's fine, I would.

850
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: You don't have to do that. We can keep arguing

851
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,879
Speaker 1: about this. Give him Bruce Carter. Bruce Carter, Yeah, second

852
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: round pick, you give up Jalen Smith in his knee injury.

853
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 1: You give up second round pick because you're you know, yeah,

854
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 1: but in this scenario, you now have two second round picks,

855
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: which means I like your odds of hitting on one

856
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 1: of them, because they got a good track record like

857
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: every other year or the second round picks not bad.

858
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: So if they can do it in one year, yeah,

859
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: you can do it, all right, Yeah, we'll see. Let's

860
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 1: take a call from Tim in Boston. Hey, guys, thanks

861
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: taking my Callie appreciate Nick. I'm one hund Just do

862
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: whatever we have to do to get Earl Thomas. Yeah,

863
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: but give up uh yeah, yeah that's tough. Yeah, I

864
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 1: can see that but you know what, Seattle's gonna lose

865
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: him anyways, and they know they're gonna lose him. A

866
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 1: second round pick should get this deal done. Like you said,

867
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,320
Speaker 1: I agree that we should have the opportunity to negotiate

868
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: with his Asian him. But UM, I'm with you one

869
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 1: hundred ten percent on that. But the other thing was

870
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 1: is the position that I'm really concerned about is defensive tackle. Um.

871
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 1: I think I runs a good. I think a linebacker

872
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 1: is a good. I think our secondary is solid. I

873
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: think that if we bring the guy from Seattle here,

874
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 1: I think we get instant credibility. Um, why hasn't Why

875
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: haven't we spent more resources and assets at defensive tackle?

876
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: Dave Hellman Brian brought us. Um, they can play the

877
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,280
Speaker 1: draft show. They always talked about defensive tackles and Dave's

878
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: more of Dave's most common you know quotes is until

879
00:42:55,680 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: this team spends the resource. Um, you know they then

880
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 1: he would do even talk about a guy. Why don't

881
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: they do that? Don't you think it's time hurt us now?

882
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: And you think that that that philosophy is starting to

883
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 1: show up. Yeah, I'll listen to you guys, off hit.

884
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. So explain to me. Explain to me, though,

885
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: how how's it? How's it hurt them? At this point,

886
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 1: I say, I disagree with the point because I kind

887
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 1: of get the point. I just want to explain why.

888
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 1: How is how is what they've done so far a

889
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: defensive tackle hurt them? I just well, it's in the

890
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 1: grand scheme of things. I guess you could argue it

891
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 1: hasn't hurt them because their defenses have been all right, slash,

892
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 1: not that bad, but they're the talent at defensive tackle

893
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 1: has been lacking basically the whole time I've been covering

894
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: this team, Like, look everywhere else, they've never addressed it.

895
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence with a high DeMarcus Lawrences pick thirty four,

896
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: Taco Charlton has picked twenty eight. Tyrone Crawford is pick

897
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: eighty one. Uh. Gregory Randy Gregory's pick sixty. Coney Ely

898
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 1: was picked sixty in his draft. And then you got

899
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: Malie Collins, who, to their credit, he was picked sixty seven. Uh.

900
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: And then like in terms of like guys that they

901
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: have brought in themselves, Daytone Jones was a first round

902
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: pick for the Packers six years ago, but they have

903
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 1: not spent those resources. They just haven't done it. And

904
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: I think the reason why is Marinelli doesn't That's not

905
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: the type of player he's trying to he's trying to

906
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 1: bring in for the in the first round. I think

907
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 1: he looks at it like, we can get other guys

908
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: in there. We can get you know, underdog type players

909
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: that can go up there and which lay well. Not

910
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: only that, I mean, if we want to get deep

911
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 1: into the draft weeds, we can. Stephen Jones said it

912
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 1: the combine and he caused a huge tizzie when he

913
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: did it. That like there there is not a pure

914
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 1: one technique that they would put a first round grade on.

915
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 1: They just won't do it. And that's you know, Vita Vea,

916
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 1: if y'all remember him, the Washington the monstrous d tackle.

917
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:49,879
Speaker 1: You know, they said, well, we think he can do both,

918
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 1: so we give him a first round grade. But a

919
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: guy that's purely just a run stuffer. They don't value

920
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:59,720
Speaker 1: that position. They set it themselves. And he's in Tampa.

921
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: I think he was like a top ten pick. I mean,

922
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 1: Cowboys twelve overall talk on draft night that he would

923
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: they wanted him, they would, they could maybe move up

924
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 1: to get him if he had if he falls, if

925
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,800
Speaker 1: he had fallen, they certainly might have done something. But again,

926
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 1: that's because they saw him as a penetrating type of

927
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: defensive tackle as well. Whereas it kind of goes back

928
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: to my point again, Sorry, if we're getting into the draft, weeds,

929
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 1: but everybody was like, you know, they don't want Taco

930
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 1: because he doesn't have those right side end characteristics. You

931
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: gotta gotta come off the right side like Randy Gregory

932
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: and Ba Bah. That's why they traded up for DeMarcus

933
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 1: Lawrence because he was the last right end in that

934
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: class that they really thought could make a difference. Well,

935
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,240
Speaker 1: what if you just draft a good left end? You're like, again,

936
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 1: I know people dog him because he could have been

937
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: Randy Moss, but like greg Ellis was a good, solid

938
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,399
Speaker 1: defensive end. Maybe he didn't live up to the hype

939
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: of a first round pick, but like, you need those

940
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: type of players too, You need those guys, and that's

941
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: you need a good one technique. Just because he doesn't

942
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: get sacked doesn't mean sacks doesn't mean he's not good.

943
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: That's always driven me crazy, But I do think this,

944
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:00,760
Speaker 1: I think there's a distinction has to be made between

945
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: one technique and three technique, because I think you can

946
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 1: get a good, solid one technique without spending the highest

947
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: draft pick that you have in order to do it.

948
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 1: Three technique, on the other hand, I think it's a

949
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 1: whole different story. So if you just talk about tackles,

950
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 1: like you look at the defenses in the league. To

951
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: have a a really a stud three technique, you look

952
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 1: at a guy like Aaron Down to look a guy

953
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,720
Speaker 1: like Fletcher Cox, it makes a difference for the whole defense.

954
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: You give me the best one technique in the league,

955
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: doesn't really change their defense dramatically. I would argue that

956
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 1: if Snax Harrison was on this team, it would make

957
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 1: a dramatic difference. Yes, which to your point, it helps.

958
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 1: I don't know if it. I'm gonna make a point

959
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: for you. He wasn't undrafted free age. There you go.

960
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 1: But like, obviously that's it's like a winning a lottery ticket.

961
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: Like they haven't had their best one technique in this

962
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 1: era has probably been Nick hayden Is. I'm not kidding.

963
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 1: What is Sean Lee's biggest issue? Okay, well, keep these

964
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: big guys off of him. With a big guy up front,

965
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: I mean, why don't we ever try that route? Now

966
00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: I know he's not in the middle anymore, but still

967
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 1: you're worried about the health of that. Then you're talking

968
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: about the conceptually how they play defense. That's not how

969
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 1: they're asking their play. But if you get a big,

970
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 1: big guys up front that not not these quick All

971
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:14,879
Speaker 1: they're trying to do is just get trying to Okay,

972
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: but people run in this league. When they run and

973
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: they push those guys off the ball, uman you, well,

974
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 1: he'd be a good three. What's this movement one? Okay,

975
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 1: Millie Collins can't play also, so get rid of the

976
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator because this is the the court, this is

977
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,439
Speaker 1: the defense. I mean, that's my point. Like what you're saying,

978
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 1: what you're saying, what you're saying is change the philosophy.

979
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,280
Speaker 1: And that's a different conversation then than change the personal.

980
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 1: And they're gonna play three four next year, That's what

981
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,839
Speaker 1: I think I do. Tell them me on that. I'm

982
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: not sure I'm buying yet, that's kind of that's kind

983
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: of mind. Close to three four. You're getting closer than

984
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: you you have been in a while. If you wanted

985
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: to go there, let's save that for another day, but

986
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: tomorrow it's kind of caller. The caller kind of made

987
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 1: my point for me, which is it's a lot like,

988
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 1: you know, why are we whinding about Scotland and being

989
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 1: here in August? That bed is made. And it's the

990
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: same thing with defense, Like I don't even like talking

991
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 1: about it because as long as Rod Marinelli's calling the shots,

992
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 1: that's how they're going to play it. It's just the

993
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: way it is. And that's I said it all during

994
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: the spring is like we can talk about Vita Veatil

995
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 1: we're blue in the face. I refuse to believe he's

996
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 1: going to be on this team until it happens, and

997
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,280
Speaker 1: that goes for anything else, which I got my problems

998
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 1: with it. I'm with Nick. I think Malie Collins should

999
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 1: be playing three technique. I agree with that. I hate

1000
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 1: to insinuate that I know more about pass rushing than

1001
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 1: Rod Marinelli because I absolutely don't. But he had a

1002
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 1: great rookie year and not so great second year because

1003
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 1: of that positions which I didn't like it. Factor in

1004
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: the fact that you can't count on David Irving, and

1005
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 1: there's just not a lot of reasons to feel great

1006
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: about that position. I completely agree with him. Even if

1007
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: Jihad Ward and Diatone Jones or Diamonds in the rough,

1008
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:53,879
Speaker 1: which they very well could be, it's not enough. So yeah,

1009
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,879
Speaker 1: that's how I feel. Shout out Brian Price, though he's

1010
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: he's flashed still. Like Brian Price, I've been saying since

1011
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 1: last year, I think maybe maybe they don't like he

1012
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 1: might be the best thing they have in a one

1013
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: technique right in terms of and so maybe if he

1014
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 1: can keep it up, maybe he can be your trash

1015
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:16,839
Speaker 1: can of dirt let Malik, and when David Irving comes back,

1016
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: he can do the same health I mean, don't hit

1017
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 1: that play we saw Frederick just yeah, yeah, but you're

1018
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,359
Speaker 1: not gonna win every play. Not asking you to win

1019
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 1: every play, I'm asking not to get smashed to the ground.

1020
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: Brian Price absolutely returned the favor yesterday. He threw Travis

1021
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: Rerecord to the ground. Yeah he did, just saying yeah,

1022
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 1: I usually don't see Travis on the ground, and when

1023
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:47,240
Speaker 1: I saw him, my damn Price. Probably I think Price

1024
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: is a legit one technique. He's probably the best one

1025
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: technique you got on this team right now. In my opinion,

1026
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: I would agree with that. Yes, even and I don't

1027
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,839
Speaker 1: think Malik is a particularly effective one. So even if

1028
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 1: Malik was practicing, I think Brian Price might better. I agree.

1029
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 1: What about miss Price, I hadn't heard her yet. I

1030
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 1: haven't heard her either. He thinks he's a one technique. Jeez,

1031
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 1: all right, Well here's a question from Twitter. And since

1032
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 1: we've been talking about everything on the team, let's just

1033
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:18,479
Speaker 1: might as well hit defensive end. Randy Gregory. He still

1034
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 1: hasn't practice with the team, but he's active now and

1035
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: we've seen him kind of doing his little workouts. One nick,

1036
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 1: he talks to thee my God, like, can I finish

1037
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 1: saying anything. Let's go, let's get let's get to it.

1038
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory. He talks a little bit about his um

1039
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 1: um weight. He says, my weight is like Lebron James's hair.

1040
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 1: I don't really, I don't. I don't talk about its fleeting.

1041
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 1: I don't talk about it. I just say he can't

1042
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: keep it. He goes, I'm too, I'm two twenty two eighty.

1043
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 1: I'm somewhere between two twenty to two eighty. That's where

1044
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 1: he is. Jason Garrett put a hard number on it.

1045
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,439
Speaker 1: He did so, and it was like a hard number.

1046
00:50:56,560 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 1: Two forty two. Yeah, he said, he's like more than that.

1047
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, more than that two fifty. He just

1048
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 1: then he started like all right, you're not gonna get

1049
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 1: me on that. But he definitely looks like he's Is

1050
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 1: it a state secret? Who cares? Why? Why is that

1051
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 1: a big deal? I don't know, but uh, yeah, he's

1052
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 1: eligible to go through walkthroughs now. I got. Yeah, we

1053
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: didn't really hit the hard news today. I mean, it's

1054
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 1: not hard news, and I'll tell you why I don't.

1055
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 1: He's not going to be in practice before this team

1056
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: plays its first preseason game. That's my bet. Do you

1057
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 1: think he'll do? You think he'll be ready to play

1058
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 1: in the preseason this year, and if so, maybe the

1059
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: last preseason games that would I think Jason Garrett has

1060
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: stated that's the goal, and I don't see why not.

1061
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 1: Like the preseason doesn't end until August thirtieth, you really

1062
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,439
Speaker 1: can't get him into one of those at least. So

1063
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 1: I think he will practice in pads before we leave Oxnard,

1064
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 1: and I think he will play in maybe not the

1065
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: Bengals game Cardinals August twenty six. That's what I'm circling.

1066
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 1: The rehearsal, the dress rehearsal as we like to call it. Okay,

1067
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 1: he needs to play before that. I think, in my opinion,

1068
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 1: maybe he will, just because I mean, he's gonna make

1069
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:05,479
Speaker 1: the team. But I think you got to figure out

1070
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,439
Speaker 1: is does he play in the games? Is he gonna

1071
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 1: be in the fifty three or is he gonna be

1072
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:13,359
Speaker 1: in the forty six? And to determine that is going

1073
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 1: to affect well, what about Tapper? What about these other guys?

1074
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:17,919
Speaker 1: Who else is gonna play? So it's a good point.

1075
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 1: I think he does need to play a little bit,

1076
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: sooner hopefully he can. We shall see go ahead, I

1077
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: mean you're hosting. Um moving on to the what do

1078
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 1: you think like other than Randy, Other than Randy Gregory,

1079
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: who is clearly and totally a three four outside linebacker,

1080
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:38,240
Speaker 1: why do you think this team has three four personnel? Um?

1081
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 1: I think from a linebacker. First of all, you've got

1082
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 1: these defensive ends that can kind of play tackle in

1083
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 1: whatever I think Taco, I think Tyrone Crawford would be

1084
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 1: really good ends in this technique. And yes, and I

1085
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: could see DeMarcus Lawrence on the outside. I definitely, I mean,

1086
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 1: Gregory would be great if you can count on that,

1087
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 1: I'm not really sure. But I'm not sure Jalen Smith

1088
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: couldn't be an outside three four defensive end. I like

1089
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 1: Layton in the middle. I like, um, the Sean Lee

1090
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: in the middle. Um, and then you know you gotta

1091
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 1: get me another um. No. I mean you'd be good

1092
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 1: there you had those two guys in the middle of

1093
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:15,840
Speaker 1: the nose, right, you gotta get a nose. But I

1094
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: mean I think you need one. Now. I don't know

1095
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: exactly where Molik would play. I don't, But then again,

1096
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 1: I mean I saw Jay Ratlin. Yeah, I say Jay

1097
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 1: Rale can play the nose. Yeah, the unfortunate when you

1098
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: make it, when you make a personnel switch like that,

1099
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 1: like somebody's gonna be sol that's just the way I go.

1100
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, But I mean you can't count on David Irving.

1101
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 1: But David Irving would be an outstanding three four end. Yeah,

1102
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 1: just defensive end. I'm not I hesitate to bet against him,

1103
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,359
Speaker 1: but I have a hard time to seeing Tank as

1104
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: a three four linebacker. Like he's very athletic, he's obviously

1105
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,879
Speaker 1: great at what he does, but like Randy's just got that. Yeah.

1106
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 1: But I will say this though, David. I mean, and

1107
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:55,439
Speaker 1: you might you might know some names you can throw

1108
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 1: out here. I have a hard time thinking about a

1109
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 1: really good hand in the ground four three defensive end

1110
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: that got switched to a three four outside stand up

1111
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:07,399
Speaker 1: linebacker that wasn't better, right, I mean most of them,

1112
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: they they they're sacks, go through the roof. If they're

1113
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:11,359
Speaker 1: good up with their hand in the ground, you stand

1114
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 1: them up, they get better. It seems like h and

1115
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,720
Speaker 1: again I may be missing some guys that didn't obviously

1116
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 1: make that job, but I think it seems like that

1117
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 1: to me. I think you make that movie. I think

1118
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:23,479
Speaker 1: you could make that move and and have to maybe

1119
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: do a you can do it in one offseason now

1120
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: and do maybe one or two, you know, one or

1121
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 1: two changes. I think I think you could play it

1122
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,280
Speaker 1: if you needed to, well, if you if you wanted.

1123
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 1: I mean, for the sake of argument, we all love

1124
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:37,919
Speaker 1: Christopher Shard. I mean he's for three all the way. Yeah,

1125
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 1: so as Nick says he's gonna be them here for well,

1126
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 1: that's I mean, that's kind of what I was getting at.

1127
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 1: That's what I was intimating. Okay, clear, yesterday, well, the

1128
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 1: boys have started their little yoga sesh. So you say

1129
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 1: it's so dismissively little yoga, which is very helpful. No,

1130
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 1: I absolutely agree, and it's exciting to see them doing

1131
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 1: this kind of stuff now. So anyways, that is all

1132
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 1: the time we have for today. We'll see what Nick

1133
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Speaker 1: does tomorrow and yes you are, yes, he will be hosting.

1134
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 1: We're gonna see how this goes. I want to see

1135
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 1: how this experiment works for Nikki Men, Derrick Ingleton, David Hellman,

1136
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:21,720
Speaker 1: remember GARCS. See you guys next time tomorrow on the break.

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