WEBVTT - Divisional Round Recap + CFP National Championship Preview

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<v Speaker 1>And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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<v Speaker 1>What's up, everybody? Welcome to move the sticks, DJ, Bucky

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<v Speaker 1>Rhett with you guys. I got to say it was

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<v Speaker 1>fun yesterday. Not only a great games, incredible games, which

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to get into on today's episode, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was fun to actually be together read I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>the last time we were all together sitting there watching

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<v Speaker 1>a football game. That was fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's kind of been been some pieces of us here,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, throughout Thursdays and Sundays, and Bucky and I

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<v Speaker 2>have been on the desk for NFL Game Day highlights

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<v Speaker 2>throughout the playoffs on Sundays, which has been fun to

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<v Speaker 2>you know, kind of take one of the games and

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<v Speaker 2>then push it forward into what we're going to see

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<v Speaker 2>in the next one. And I think the one thing

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<v Speaker 2>that we all kind of you know, witnessed in that

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<v Speaker 2>Eagles Rams game was something that kind of was the

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<v Speaker 2>theme for the day, which were our turnovers really hindering

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<v Speaker 2>the losing team in this one.

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<v Speaker 3>And we'll get into that throughout.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was a good weekend of football, some good

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<v Speaker 2>hard football really all around.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, it's funny to playoffs change, but the way

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<v Speaker 4>that you win doesn't.

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<v Speaker 5>And the guys that don't make a lot of mistakes,

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<v Speaker 5>the teams that don't beat themselves are the ones that

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<v Speaker 5>continue to advance. And we saw a time and time

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<v Speaker 5>again we talked about turnovers being the number one deciding

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<v Speaker 5>factor and who wins and loses games. It's that is

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<v Speaker 5>blowing assignments, is silly penalties, things that you would tell

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<v Speaker 5>a little league team if you want to be really good,

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<v Speaker 5>if you just do these things, you have a chance.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's not so much teams winning games, is teams

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<v Speaker 5>losing games, and if you can avoid the implosion, you

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<v Speaker 5>have a chance to advance. And that's what we really

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<v Speaker 5>saw this weekend with all the teams that were able

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<v Speaker 5>to advance.

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<v Speaker 1>Buck, you'll appreciate this because you know that I like

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<v Speaker 1>baseball and I always bring stuff back to baseball. Red

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<v Speaker 1>hates baseball, so he's not going to participate in this

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<v Speaker 1>particular analogy. But I was watching those games, Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>was watching those games just thinking of the Yankees in

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<v Speaker 1>the World Series. Like you think about all the effort

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<v Speaker 1>it takes to get to this point, and then like

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<v Speaker 1>the simple things two hands on the ball, in the

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<v Speaker 1>pocket right when you've got a crowd around, you keep

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<v Speaker 1>your left hand on the football. When you catch the

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<v Speaker 1>ball in the middle of the field, you've got to

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<v Speaker 1>cover up because you don't know where defenders are coming from.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's like Aaron Judge dropping a fly ball. That's

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<v Speaker 1>like them. Not that's not like Garrett Cole not covering

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<v Speaker 1>first base. Like these are things that you learn in

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<v Speaker 1>the earliest part of your football career and it's amazing,

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<v Speaker 1>and the biggest moments on the biggest stage buck that

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<v Speaker 1>some of that stuff is what caused you to lose.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm so glad that you brought us back to baseball

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<v Speaker 5>because one of my favorite quotes comes from Joe Madden,

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<v Speaker 5>who won the World Series with the Chicago Cubs, and

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<v Speaker 5>their theme that year they won it was do simple

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<v Speaker 5>better and literally in the postseason is if you just

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<v Speaker 5>do the simple things better than your opponent, you're going

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<v Speaker 5>to win. And you just talk about avoiding the unforced

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<v Speaker 5>eras the things that you really can control, because you

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<v Speaker 5>can control all those things. When it comes to ball security,

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<v Speaker 5>you understand winning the crowd, cover up to put two

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<v Speaker 5>hands on it, make sure you don't line up all

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<v Speaker 5>size all those other things, and it's just amazing, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>And it'll take us to the kanc Chiefs.

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<v Speaker 5>When we eventually get there, people get mad at the Chiefs,

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<v Speaker 5>but to me, the chief said, done what the Patriots

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<v Speaker 5>did when they had their run. They've learned how to

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<v Speaker 5>do those little things better than their opponent, and whatever

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<v Speaker 5>they need to do on a given day, they do.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's why they've been very, very hard to beat.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's why they also excelled in those one score games.

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<v Speaker 5>They don't give games away.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, RTT. I want to get to you,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll start here with the last game we saw,

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<v Speaker 1>which was Baltimore Buffalo, and we can jump into that.

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<v Speaker 1>But you kind of connected the two games with the turnovers.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's five turnovers combined for the teams that lost

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<v Speaker 1>and a clean sheet for the two teams that won

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<v Speaker 1>on Sunday. I'm talking about the Sunday games. So you

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<v Speaker 1>also had in that game, I believe, let's see Josh

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<v Speaker 1>Allen in terms of passing yard one hundred and twenty seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Jalen hurts one hundred and twenty eight. Like they are

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<v Speaker 1>not going to light up the stat sheet, but they

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<v Speaker 1>protected the football and that was enough. Their defense is

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<v Speaker 1>played great. But just starting with that one, Baltimore Buffalo,

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<v Speaker 1>let's start first of all on the Baltimore side of things. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Andrews, I don't know how we got to start there, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's where you got to start.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, tough.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel for Mark Andrews, right, this is what a

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<v Speaker 2>roller coaster of a season. I remember it started out

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<v Speaker 2>he was, you know, kind of an afterthought, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>early in the year, and Isaya likely was catching and

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<v Speaker 2>then he caught fire and was a big reason eleven touchdowns. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>on the stretch and then just to see it, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of come to an end right there on a

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<v Speaker 2>play like that that you know, I think you know

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<v Speaker 2>talking about on the broadcast he makes nine hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>ninety nine times out of one thousand.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>But look, it was a hard play.

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<v Speaker 2>It was not an easy catch, right, I'll say that

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<v Speaker 2>when you're off balance a little bit right and kind

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<v Speaker 2>of falling backwards. But that's a play Mark Andrews makes.

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<v Speaker 2>When you're an All Pro and Pro bowlder, that's the

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<v Speaker 2>kind of play your team, you know, needs you to make.

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<v Speaker 2>But again, you come back to it also like he's

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<v Speaker 2>also a reason why they're in that position. He also

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<v Speaker 2>had a fumble earlier in the game that was tough.

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<v Speaker 1>And resulted in three points going the other way. Those

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<v Speaker 1>five points on two plays is really.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's it's hard.

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<v Speaker 2>It's hard to boil it down like that because obviously

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<v Speaker 2>you need to look at it in totality, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>hard to separate that from the fact that those two

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<v Speaker 2>plays were massive.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you know the thing about it, the two point play,

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<v Speaker 5>And I wonder when you look at Lamar Jackson and

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<v Speaker 5>the wind up, it almost reminded me of.

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<v Speaker 4>Another baseball reference, a change up, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>So like you're sitting here waiting for you're you're ready

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<v Speaker 4>for the.

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<v Speaker 5>Fastball, and you get the change up or the knuckleball,

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<v Speaker 5>and it's a minor thing, but it's made you when

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<v Speaker 5>you're falling back and you anticipate maybe a little more velocity.

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<v Speaker 5>But I understand why Lamar Jackson did it, because he

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<v Speaker 5>didn't want to pull the stream. He didn't want to

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<v Speaker 5>blow the layup, and so in maybe trying to help

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<v Speaker 5>Mark Andrews, maybe Jackson hurt him by taking a little

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<v Speaker 5>off the ball.

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<v Speaker 4>Which is hard to say.

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<v Speaker 5>We're gonna blame the quarterback for a drop pass.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I wanted to go back. I haven't had a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to go back and see it yet, but you

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<v Speaker 1>guys remember their loss against the Steelers. They ran their

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<v Speaker 1>two point play with Lamar going left and then they couldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>They he couldn't. I don't think somebody could get out.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the tight end was trying to getut into

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<v Speaker 1>the flat. They couldn't. They blew it up and they

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<v Speaker 1>tackled Lamar getting out. I meant Herbig might be the

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<v Speaker 1>one who kind of blew it up, but then they

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<v Speaker 1>it was just kind of they got him on the move.

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<v Speaker 1>They got him on the move left and it got

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<v Speaker 1>blown up and it almost looked like it was going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a quarterback sweep, almost a tight play. But

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<v Speaker 1>I go back and look at that play. But in

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<v Speaker 1>this one, obviously they're going to the right, and I

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<v Speaker 1>almost felt like all eyes were on Lamar and they

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<v Speaker 1>kind of sold out as if Lamar was going to

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<v Speaker 1>run the ball. So you get him wide open, and

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<v Speaker 1>I've been and I've been in that situation, Buck exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what you're talking about, and it's like he's so open.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want anything too firm, so it just it

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of pulls. It just kind of just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of pull it off a little bit. But he he's

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<v Speaker 1>got to catch the ball, man, he's got to catch

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<v Speaker 1>the ball. And it was a heck of a drive

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<v Speaker 1>by Lamar and getting them right down the field. We

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<v Speaker 1>were watching at the time. Buck, I don't know where

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<v Speaker 1>you thought about it, but I there was some There

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<v Speaker 1>was some conversation in the room when they had the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth down. Rosenthal, I see, if Rosenthal confesses this, you

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<v Speaker 1>tweet it. Rosental said he, oh, did he tweet it?

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<v Speaker 1>He said, oh, they should go they should go for it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said no, no, no, no, no. If you go for it,

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<v Speaker 1>there's one drive you lose. You kick the field goal.

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<v Speaker 1>You have three opportunities left to win the game. You

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<v Speaker 1>hold them without a touchdown, you win the game. You

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<v Speaker 1>give them a touchdown, but you stop the two point conversion,

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<v Speaker 1>You win the game. You give up the touchdown, the

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<v Speaker 1>two point conversion, you still go to overtime with a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to win the game. Like that gives you three

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<v Speaker 1>opportunities to win the football game. You have to kick

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<v Speaker 1>that field goal.

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<v Speaker 5>It is mitigating risks right in those moments is mitigating risks? Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>So even at their worst, as you laid out your

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<v Speaker 5>three scenarios, we still go to overtime. I understood it

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<v Speaker 5>because I sat there and I had to tweet compose.

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<v Speaker 4>I couldn't get it out because I couldn't get my

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<v Speaker 4>thoughts together.

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<v Speaker 6>But I was like, okay, a lot of questions on

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<v Speaker 6>third down before to get the third down, I was saying, okay,

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<v Speaker 6>are you approaching this with two plays to school because

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<v Speaker 6>the ball was at the two.

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<v Speaker 3>They got to the one yard line too, Yeah, yeah, they.

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<v Speaker 4>Got to the one yard line.

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<v Speaker 5>Then I was like, okay, man, Josh Allen is unstoppable

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<v Speaker 5>on quarterback.

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<v Speaker 4>Power or whatever you go.

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<v Speaker 5>But they lost yardage and at that point I was like, man,

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<v Speaker 5>you gotta kick it right. You got to you got

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<v Speaker 5>to take the eight point advantage, and you got to

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<v Speaker 5>say a defense go Now.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't know that Lamar Jess was.

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<v Speaker 1>Right down.

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<v Speaker 2>That the other thing, you know, like there would have

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<v Speaker 2>been about a minute and thirty o'clock left for Josh Allen.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, after the point version. This was not

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<v Speaker 3>a foregone conclusion.

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<v Speaker 1>You might have had four opportunities to win that game.

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<v Speaker 1>Then if that's the case, because you could have won

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<v Speaker 1>it in regulation and overtime or stop a touchdown or

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<v Speaker 1>stop the two point. That was the right decision by McDermott.

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<v Speaker 1>And he said it after the game. He's like, look,

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<v Speaker 1>if we were right on the doorstep, I probably go,

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<v Speaker 1>but not when we're you know, two and a half

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<v Speaker 1>to three yards, Like that's that's too much. So I

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<v Speaker 1>thought that was smart on their end. Man, Derrick Henry,

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<v Speaker 1>they you know, he had a couple runs in the

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<v Speaker 1>third quarter, but Buffalo, I thought, you know, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>they had to do. They had to sell out to

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<v Speaker 1>try and take him away. And if you hold him

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<v Speaker 1>under eighty five yards, which they did sixteen for eighty four.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was kind of, you know, one of those

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<v Speaker 1>people I picked Buffalo to win, but I did think

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<v Speaker 1>Derrick Henry had a chance to dominate that game because

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<v Speaker 1>Buffalo is not real big. But man, they played big.

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<v Speaker 1>They penetrated, and as we've said Buck, we've said this,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about Dereck Henry for years, like it's a

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<v Speaker 1>very simple formula. It's not easy to execute, but it's simple,

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<v Speaker 1>and that you must take that runway and you must

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<v Speaker 1>shrink that runway down because if he gets a runway,

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<v Speaker 1>you got no shot. And the only way you shorten

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<v Speaker 1>a runway is with penetration.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and I would give Buffalo a lot of credit

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<v Speaker 5>because they played on the move their frontline. There's I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>it almost reminded me of watching like a college game.

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<v Speaker 5>You remember when TCU played Michigan and there was a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of conversation about Missigan was going to blow TCU

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<v Speaker 5>over because they're playing like, oh, a forty five or

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<v Speaker 5>three to three five defense.

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<v Speaker 4>There's no way they can stop.

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<v Speaker 5>And all the movement and the speed and the explosiveness

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<v Speaker 5>upfront created problems at times. However, the Baltimore Ravens had

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<v Speaker 5>it rolling and the fumble Andrews gave up that led

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<v Speaker 5>to three points that drive.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, they had him moving, they had.

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<v Speaker 5>Run the football, they were throwing it, they had balanced

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<v Speaker 5>in those things, and the Buffalo Bills made key plays

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<v Speaker 5>and key moments to halted drives. And that's ultimately the difference.

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<v Speaker 5>The three turnover margin is why the Buffalo Bills go

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<v Speaker 5>on and the Baltimore Ravens are packing it up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Mantt. By the way, uh, Jay Flowers not being

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<v Speaker 1>in that ball game. I think that's a big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>I had some people get upset with me because I

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<v Speaker 1>said it on TV that like, gosh, they really missed him,

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<v Speaker 1>and I got the everybody has injuries comment, and I'm like, look,

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about it. Yeah, we said that Detroit missed Hutchinson,

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<v Speaker 1>like we've talked about people. I'm not saying that's the

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<v Speaker 1>sole reason they didn't win the game, but yeah, would

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<v Speaker 1>have been nice for him to have him out there.

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<v Speaker 1>But I thought that was that was legitimate.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, like this was when you take the

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<v Speaker 2>turnovers out of it, this was a hard fought game

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<v Speaker 2>on both sides. Like it was not just like a

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<v Speaker 2>and this was not the Ravens team that that forgot

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<v Speaker 2>about the run game.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, in the postseason, they still ran the ball.

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<v Speaker 3>Justice Hill ran the they like.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what's interesting is it was really feast or

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<v Speaker 2>fan for the Ravens on offense.

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<v Speaker 3>If it wasn't a chunk.

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<v Speaker 2>Play, it wouldn't happen both in the past game and

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<v Speaker 2>the run game.

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<v Speaker 3>Like all.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean because Anders had two, Derrick Henry had two.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just a lot of self inflicted wounds man.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, it really was.

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<v Speaker 2>And but the defense played phenomenal, like they keep the

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<v Speaker 2>Bills under three hundred total yards.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think you could ask for much more than that.

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<v Speaker 1>No, Y, go ahead, Buck.

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<v Speaker 5>I would say this because there's always gonna be a

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<v Speaker 5>conversation about Lamar Jackson. I think we have touch on it,

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<v Speaker 5>like the narrative that goes on about Lamar Jackson in

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<v Speaker 5>the postseason. Now, I think from a personal standpoint, Lamar

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<v Speaker 5>Jackson will walk away from this game with confidence knowing

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<v Speaker 5>that he can play well in those big moments. He

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<v Speaker 5>hadn't played well in one of these divisional round AFC

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<v Speaker 5>championship games. I feel like after those early turnovers, he

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<v Speaker 5>played pretty well. Capped off at that final drive, I

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<v Speaker 5>think he has to figure out a way how to

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<v Speaker 5>calm himself down, because once he calmed down in the

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<v Speaker 5>floor of the game, he was able to play really well.

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<v Speaker 5>To me, is his emotional control at the outset that

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<v Speaker 5>they have to work on to allow him to get

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<v Speaker 5>past these moments.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I would just still last thing I would

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<v Speaker 2>say on this game, Like, to me, a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the way this game ended up being played out was

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<v Speaker 2>what happened at the border line of the first and

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<v Speaker 2>second quarter. You know the interception. Yeah, it didn't end

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<v Speaker 2>up hurting them because Buffalo punted away after the pick,

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<v Speaker 2>but obviously it ruined an opportunity for you to go

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<v Speaker 2>down there and score. But then you know, they go

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<v Speaker 2>down and then on the next they fumble, right, you

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<v Speaker 2>get the fumble, Buffalo recover, scores a touchdown. Then on

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<v Speaker 2>the Ravens next drive they get all the way down

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<v Speaker 2>to the Buffalo eight and have to kick a field goal,

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<v Speaker 2>and then Buffalo comes back and scores a touchdown, and

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<v Speaker 2>you're sitting there in his twenty one points. And that

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<v Speaker 2>second quarter, that first is second quarter really kind of

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<v Speaker 2>determined to me the way that the rest of the

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<v Speaker 2>game ended up being played.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was crucial. Let's let's get to the other

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<v Speaker 1>game that we saw yesterday, which was another great game.

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<v Speaker 1>Came down to the very end with the Rams ball

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<v Speaker 1>in their hands, chance to go down there win. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me just ratt I'll tee you up on this one first.

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<v Speaker 1>But if I told you before the game, Matthew Stafford's

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<v Speaker 1>going to throw for three twenty four to two touchdowns,

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<v Speaker 1>no picks. Jalen Hurts is only going to throw for

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<v Speaker 1>a buck twenty eight with no touchdowns. Kyra Williams is

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<v Speaker 1>going to have one hundred and six yards on the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>Your defense is going to compile seven sacks. You sit there, think, gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>we got a pretty good shot at going on there

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<v Speaker 1>and beating the Philadelphia Eagles in this one. But the

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<v Speaker 1>problem being Saquon Barkley, major problem. Putting the ball on

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<v Speaker 1>the ground twice, major major problem, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Stafford once and then the Kyra Williams one is really tough

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<v Speaker 2>because you just got the safety right. You just sacked

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<v Speaker 2>Jalen Hurts, who looks like, you know, a wounded animal

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<v Speaker 2>back there. He can't move around with the knee or

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<v Speaker 2>whatever it was that ended up bothering him, and they

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<v Speaker 2>sack him down there. You get the ball back, you're

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<v Speaker 2>within a point, and now you turn it right back

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<v Speaker 2>over to them. They return it all the way deep,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, into your own territory, and the air just

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<v Speaker 2>goes out of the balloon for a minute.

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<v Speaker 3>Now it came back.

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<v Speaker 2>It came back late, late, late, like a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>too late, you know, as you go under four minutes,

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<v Speaker 2>they made a heck of a push and really had

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<v Speaker 2>an opportunity there if not for Jalen Carr, who was

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<v Speaker 2>an absolute beast as he's been just dominating inside, sacking

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<v Speaker 2>Stafford on the third and two, turning it into a

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<v Speaker 2>fourth and eleven and then causing pressure again to force

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<v Speaker 2>a quick throw from Stafford that.

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<v Speaker 3>Ends up ending the game and ending the season. And

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<v Speaker 3>that's what it came down to me, like thinking about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Game for me, and obviously with the turnovers and that's

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<v Speaker 2>a turnover run downs there, but the car crash at

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<v Speaker 2>the ending, like it's fourth and eleven, you think you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to have a shot to go in here and

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<v Speaker 2>win this game and then pay him.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it.

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<v Speaker 3>Play football is hard.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, No, I mean it is hard, and it's the

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<v Speaker 5>emotional swings that you must handle, like being able to

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<v Speaker 5>deal with the ups and downs and those things. And

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<v Speaker 5>if you're the la Rams, you certainly feel like you

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<v Speaker 5>let one slip out of your hands. You had it

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<v Speaker 5>the game under control, and it look you have the safety.

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<v Speaker 5>And after the safety, I was like, oh man, this

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<v Speaker 5>is all bad for the Philadelphia Eagles. You're now giving

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<v Speaker 5>Matthew Stafford the ball back. He has an opportunity to

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<v Speaker 5>go down the feeling the pressure that they would have

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<v Speaker 5>had Jalen Hurst being down at home, all that aks

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<v Speaker 5>and anxiety, But the fumble, you scoop it up and

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<v Speaker 5>push you in a position. But I'm would say this, man,

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<v Speaker 5>the Eagles have to learn how to cash in these

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<v Speaker 5>chances in the red zone. Like this was a game

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<v Speaker 5>where they had a chance to go in and just

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<v Speaker 5>punch in penalty, packed them up and just the field

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<v Speaker 5>goal fest.

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<v Speaker 4>And at some.

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<v Speaker 5>Point you can't keep trading threes for sevens. You're gonna

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<v Speaker 5>end up on the store end of the stick. And

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<v Speaker 5>they were able to get away with it, but they're

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<v Speaker 5>not gonna be able to win in the championship game

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<v Speaker 5>if they don't cash in on those type ridson opportunities.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what's interesting though about the Eagles, man, is

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like every week and it's not just you

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<v Speaker 1>know what our conversation is here, it's everywhere. I just

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<v Speaker 1>hear people, man, They just everybody hates the way the

0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:33.400
<v Speaker 1>Philadelphi Eagles win football games. And I'm sitting here going, well, okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>if we throw out, if we throw out. Jalen Hurts

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<v Speaker 1>getting knocked out in the first quarter against Washington, right

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<v Speaker 1>and By the way, if if DeVante Smith catches the ball,

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<v Speaker 1>they still win that game. That the last time they

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<v Speaker 1>lost a football game was in September. So this this

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<v Speaker 1>team is not even clicking. They're not even clicking, so

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<v Speaker 1>they lose football games.

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<v Speaker 5>So what you're saying, are they the NFC version of

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<v Speaker 5>the Kansas City Chiefs.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what I'm hearing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, they were clean. They were cleaning this game.

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<v Speaker 1>They haven't always been clean, no, no, but in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of and things like that, but they don't.

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<v Speaker 5>They know how to win games. They know how to

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<v Speaker 5>win games. If you leave it hanging in the balance,

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<v Speaker 5>they'll find a way to do it. And we can

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<v Speaker 5>talk about the dysfunction in the locker room and are

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<v Speaker 5>they all on the same page, But you're right, at

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<v Speaker 5>the end of the weekend, they always put a dub

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<v Speaker 5>in the win column.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you this, Let me ask you this.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things we've always said about the Kansas

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<v Speaker 1>City Chiefs, and we've said it about other teams, championship teams,

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<v Speaker 1>and we can go through all of them. Von Miller

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<v Speaker 1>notoriously with the Denver Broncos. What do we say about

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<v Speaker 1>those championship teams on defense, they have a closer. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>the Clods it up, Chris Jones? Is that you know what?

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<v Speaker 1>Jalen Carter closer? He closed that game?

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<v Speaker 3>Old Smith was part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Smith was j Carter that game he closed out?

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<v Speaker 4>How about that? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>First with Jalen Carter, like Jalen Carter being everything that

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<v Speaker 5>we talked about, and it's one of the reasons why

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<v Speaker 5>we need to put the pencil down once we get

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<v Speaker 5>the calendar flips because everyone loved him the player at Georgia.

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<v Speaker 5>You're worried about the character, but the player on tape,

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<v Speaker 5>there weren't many questions about what it can be. He

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<v Speaker 5>has been exactly what he was at Georgie in terms

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<v Speaker 5>of a disruptive force at the point of attack. You've

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<v Speaker 5>seen Vic Fangio unleash him and the bigger the moment, the.

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<v Speaker 4>Better he plays.

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<v Speaker 5>But how about Nolan Smith, Because there was a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of controversy about Nolan Smith being picked, where it was

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<v Speaker 5>picked and what the position was going to be. Give

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<v Speaker 5>the Eagles credit for having a vision for how he's

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<v Speaker 5>going to play, but really give Vic Fangio credit for

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<v Speaker 5>finding a way to really unlock the potential because Nolan

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<v Speaker 5>Smith has been terrific.

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<v Speaker 4>He's really been great throughout this playoff runt.

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<v Speaker 2>I would just call up the tweet that Jackie and

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<v Speaker 2>Draid sent out and because a couple of guys right,

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<v Speaker 2>because it was Nolan Smith. Was I think DJ your

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<v Speaker 2>best value in the first round?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, in terms of where you had right that

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<v Speaker 1>was twenty twenty three. I'm pulling it up right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pulling it up right now. Yeah. So Nolan Smith

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<v Speaker 1>I had is my thirteenth player and he was the

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<v Speaker 1>thirtieth pick.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep, you know who My.

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<v Speaker 1>Comp was, ironically sweat Yeah, nice stand up, juicy change

0:19:10.240 --> 0:19:12.480
<v Speaker 1>of direction, he's got risk control, he can bend and

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<v Speaker 1>close plays with burst. I've made a point in here

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<v Speaker 1>about just like an effort thing, which you know I

0:19:19.240 --> 0:19:21.120
<v Speaker 1>always think is a big deal. That had a fake

0:19:21.200 --> 0:19:23.960
<v Speaker 1>punt called by Auburn and when I was watching that

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<v Speaker 1>game and he freaking stuffed it, which was like, Okay,

0:19:28.160 --> 0:19:31.160
<v Speaker 1>this guy's this guy's got all this athletic ability and explosiveness,

0:19:31.200 --> 0:19:33.960
<v Speaker 1>but he's also an instinctive football player. He's needed to play,

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<v Speaker 1>he's need to get out there. He'd missed some time

0:19:35.480 --> 0:19:38.000
<v Speaker 1>with injuries, and now you're seeing a chance that he's

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<v Speaker 1>got to play more and more and more. And he's

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<v Speaker 1>he's not the biggest guy in the world, but he

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<v Speaker 1>is a savage man.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And then was the other one, Yeah yeah, yeah, one

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<v Speaker 2>of the last picks of the draft, and yet you

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<v Speaker 2>had him in a like right around one hundred, So

0:19:52.800 --> 0:19:53.960
<v Speaker 2>they got some good value there.

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<v Speaker 4>What is what does juicy mean? I've never used that

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<v Speaker 4>in what is juicy su? I've never used I've never

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<v Speaker 4>used juicy. It's a new term for me. So I

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<v Speaker 4>just need to figure.

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<v Speaker 1>Out how you say if yeah, if you say like

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<v Speaker 1>a receiver's got juice, Like there's an explosiveness, but like

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<v Speaker 1>everything that no one Smith does, like as someone in

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<v Speaker 1>the front seven, everything's just got a lot of juice

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<v Speaker 1>to it. Like there's just speeding, twitch and explosiveness. No

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<v Speaker 1>matter where he's going, he's just got juicy. Dude, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what you've been doing.

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<v Speaker 5>You've been hangling those baseball scouts for too long. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>gonna restrict you from texting.

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<v Speaker 1>With I need more words. I just sit here. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like understand.

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like our guys from way back would be

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<v Speaker 5>like DJ, you know we've never used that in the report.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'll tell you what I'm always I'm always looking

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<v Speaker 1>for new ways to say this. I'll be honest with you,

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<v Speaker 1>Like just to nerd out for a second, Like, there's

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<v Speaker 1>there's lots of scouting phrases that I've heard and picked

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<v Speaker 1>up since I left as a scout, like two of

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<v Speaker 1>my favorites over the last ten years. This is totally

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<v Speaker 1>off topic, but uh, stopping power as a tackler. I

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<v Speaker 1>ever used that when I was writing, but I heard

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<v Speaker 1>it for the first time. I was like, I, when

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<v Speaker 1>I hear a term and I know exactly what it

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<v Speaker 1>looks like, that's a great that's a great scouting term,

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<v Speaker 1>stopping power. And then the other one was and this

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<v Speaker 1>I think might have been from less Snead was he

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<v Speaker 1>he said that with the Rams, they focus on guys

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<v Speaker 1>who are grounded through the catch and that's Puka, that's all.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all. They're guys that they've brought in, which buck

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<v Speaker 1>is someone who's played the position. When you hear that,

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, oh, yeah, because the guys are confidence in

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<v Speaker 1>their hands, they run through the ball, they don't leave their.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, try try and create.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, And guess.

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<v Speaker 3>What grounded through the catch point a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>There go there you go, Yeah, I guess what you're Also,

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<v Speaker 1>you're also way more likely to break tackles when you

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<v Speaker 1>have your feet in the ground. So but anyways, those

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<v Speaker 1>are those are nerdy scout topics. There anything else on

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<v Speaker 1>that game, Buck, you want to hit on before we

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<v Speaker 1>take a break?

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<v Speaker 4>Here, No, we're good on that one.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's take a break, we come back. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>hit on these Saturday games right after this. All right, well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's uh, let's work from that Saturday night game, probably

0:22:06.320 --> 0:22:11.040
<v Speaker 1>the most surprising outcome of the weekend. Uh rhtt I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta tell you, man, I got This is what happens

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<v Speaker 1>with Bucky. He goes out and he makes strong takes.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't, he doesn't. She's not shy. He puts a

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<v Speaker 1>strong opinion out there. And I think he ranked I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even know what he ranked quarterbacks somehow, and he

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<v Speaker 1>had Jade Daniels up high in staid ranking. So so

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<v Speaker 1>I get hit. I get to go get your boy.

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<v Speaker 1>Your boy doesn't. He's crazy, He's lost it. What is

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<v Speaker 1>Bucky saying? And I'm like, I have no idea what

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<v Speaker 1>you're even talking about what is going on, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I finally started doing some homework, investigative work. I'm like, oh,

0:22:43.160 --> 0:22:46.280
<v Speaker 1>Bucky Jayde Daniels is legit, and Bucky put it out there,

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<v Speaker 1>and then all of a sudden, Jade Daniels goes and

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<v Speaker 1>does his thing, and Rhett, you'll be surprised to know

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<v Speaker 1>none of those same people had the were telling me

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<v Speaker 1>to get my guy anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>So so rhtt to take you back.

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<v Speaker 5>So DJ was out, it was Lance and I hosting

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<v Speaker 5>the pod, and we did a thing called Playoff Tiers

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<v Speaker 5>with the quarterbacks and so Tier one are your elite guys,

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<v Speaker 5>and so it was Pat Mahomes, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson,

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<v Speaker 5>and then if.

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<v Speaker 4>Through Jaydon Daniels and there now you know, yeah, spice

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<v Speaker 4>it up a little bit, so like yeah, listens like.

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<v Speaker 5>Whoa this is before the playoffs start and people are like,

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<v Speaker 5>how can you put him in Tier one before he

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<v Speaker 5>even plays a playoff game? Well that's the fun and

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<v Speaker 5>projecting like if I want to wait after seeing him,

0:23:32.200 --> 0:23:35.959
<v Speaker 5>like anybody can do that like that, that's what we're projecting, like,

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<v Speaker 5>And so the thing is, and I'll say this like

0:23:41.160 --> 0:23:43.360
<v Speaker 5>he is even beyond and It's also funny, like when

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<v Speaker 5>you go back in your notes and you recall certain

0:23:45.720 --> 0:23:48.320
<v Speaker 5>conversations that you had with people before and they gave

0:23:48.359 --> 0:23:50.719
<v Speaker 5>you a different answer on Jaydon Daniels, and then you

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<v Speaker 5>talk to him now at Arizonunderstated, They're like, oh, yeah,

0:23:52.680 --> 0:23:56.159
<v Speaker 5>we always doing I'm like, oh, they celebrated when he left,

0:23:56.520 --> 0:24:01.040
<v Speaker 5>they celebrated, and now he's He's the one doing the celebration.

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<v Speaker 5>I will say his boys, his confidence, his composure, on

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<v Speaker 5>top of the skills that he brings, he epitomizes what

0:24:09.480 --> 0:24:13.320
<v Speaker 5>you look for in a franchise player. And I can

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<v Speaker 5>only relate it to my time in Green Bay when

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<v Speaker 5>Brett Farr was in the middle of his three MVP

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<v Speaker 5>run and how on defense we felt when we had

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<v Speaker 5>number four on the team.

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<v Speaker 4>We're like, if we can just get the ball back,

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<v Speaker 4>he'll figure it out.

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<v Speaker 5>And the conversations that you hear from the Commander's players

0:24:29.119 --> 0:24:32.199
<v Speaker 5>are very similar to that. He gives us hope, we

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<v Speaker 5>believe we can win because that dude is special. When

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<v Speaker 5>you have veteran players like Bobby Wagner and older players

0:24:38.000 --> 0:24:40.720
<v Speaker 5>saying that about the young guy, that's when you buy

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<v Speaker 5>in because the players will tell you real quickly. If

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<v Speaker 5>a guy has it, he definitely has the if factor

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<v Speaker 5>that you need.

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<v Speaker 2>I hard argue with that, and I just I think

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<v Speaker 2>truly when you look at that team and you look

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<v Speaker 2>at the way that he has elevated everyone around him

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<v Speaker 2>as such, I mean, this is that is a.

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<v Speaker 3>Team that they have. They're good defense. Dan Quin's a

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<v Speaker 3>heck of a coach.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Cliff Kingsbury has been a really nice job

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<v Speaker 2>of kind of managing the ebbs and flows of offensive production.

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<v Speaker 2>Whereas when he was with the Cardinals, it felt like,

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<v Speaker 2>man second half, like you started falling off the cliff

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<v Speaker 2>and they didn't find that plateau again.

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<v Speaker 3>But it felt like this this.

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<v Speaker 2>Year, this team has found that plateau and like you

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<v Speaker 2>look at you know, personnel.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean we talked about the offensive line a bunch.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Terry McLaurin, I love, but I mean like

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<v Speaker 2>they are Dami Brown has come alive, like they are

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<v Speaker 2>finding ways, and I think Jayden.

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<v Speaker 3>Is the catalyst there.

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<v Speaker 2>He is that good to where he is truly, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the rising tide that is lifting all ships here in

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<v Speaker 2>this Washington Commander's franchise, and I think he deserves a

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<v Speaker 2>ton of credit for that beyond you know what his.

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<v Speaker 3>Special play is. I think it's I think it's inspired

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<v Speaker 3>for those guys. That's a tangible thing to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I went back and was just trying to go back

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<v Speaker 1>to the college stuff when he because it was just

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't have words for what he was doing, like

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<v Speaker 1>the way he was playing and the way he's played truthfully,

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<v Speaker 1>of just the poise, uh to go along with that,

0:26:03.280 --> 0:26:07.320
<v Speaker 1>like the ball placement, the accuracy he is processing. Like

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<v Speaker 1>to me, I think I tweet out i'd' understeen body

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<v Speaker 1>process that fast, that young, like he's got like some

0:26:11.680 --> 0:26:14.600
<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow type processing stuff, which I don't say that lightly,

0:26:15.400 --> 0:26:17.400
<v Speaker 1>which is incredible. And so I was going back through

0:26:17.400 --> 0:26:20.040
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, it's just so weird. He's played so

0:26:20.200 --> 0:26:22.520
<v Speaker 1>much football in college. And we talked about that with

0:26:22.600 --> 0:26:24.639
<v Speaker 1>him and Bo Nicks both having great years because they

0:26:24.720 --> 0:26:28.720
<v Speaker 1>both played so much. But it wasn't like it wasn't

0:26:28.760 --> 0:26:33.439
<v Speaker 1>like this just steady Eddie climb. It was okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>then that his his first year at LSU a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit better, and then all of a sudden just explodes

0:26:39.400 --> 0:26:41.600
<v Speaker 1>in his in his last year. And I was thinking

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<v Speaker 1>back and I don't know you know, because we're all

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<v Speaker 1>somewhat of similar age. Like when we used to have

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<v Speaker 1>to mow the lawn. We had an old lawnmower, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know you had to you had to pull it right,

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<v Speaker 1>so you got to pull that string and then so

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<v Speaker 1>you might have to pull it three or four times

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't start, and then finally, like that fifth time

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<v Speaker 1>you pull it it starts. Works great. But I think

0:27:00.240 --> 0:27:02.440
<v Speaker 1>I was thinking of that as an analogy with these players

0:27:02.480 --> 0:27:05.679
<v Speaker 1>because they don't get much chance to fail in the NFL.

0:27:05.720 --> 0:27:09.359
<v Speaker 1>We move on. They're done. They're not good enough. So

0:27:09.800 --> 0:27:12.520
<v Speaker 1>it's like, man, in college, playing all those snaps, all

0:27:12.520 --> 0:27:14.399
<v Speaker 1>those years in college, you got time to get the

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<v Speaker 1>lawnmower started, and once it starts, it's good. And it's like,

0:27:17.160 --> 0:27:21.280
<v Speaker 1>that's the value in guys staying and playing extra time

0:27:21.320 --> 0:27:24.280
<v Speaker 1>in college is that, man, Man, they figured out because

0:27:24.280 --> 0:27:26.679
<v Speaker 1>once you figured out, you're good. But it's hard to

0:27:26.720 --> 0:27:28.919
<v Speaker 1>figure it out at the NFL level. Man, that if

0:27:28.920 --> 0:27:31.359
<v Speaker 1>you haven't had time to do that. That's my point book.

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<v Speaker 5>No, I'm with you and the experience of being able

0:27:35.320 --> 0:27:37.680
<v Speaker 5>to go through those ups and downs, and we'll talk

0:27:37.680 --> 0:27:39.800
<v Speaker 5>about Jane Dames, but I think you always have to

0:27:39.840 --> 0:27:42.520
<v Speaker 5>include bo Nicks in that conversation because he's another one

0:27:42.520 --> 0:27:45.760
<v Speaker 5>who had all of that time at college. You find

0:27:45.800 --> 0:27:48.480
<v Speaker 5>his game, go through the ups and downs, and then

0:27:48.800 --> 0:27:50.520
<v Speaker 5>find his way to the other side. And we saw

0:27:50.560 --> 0:27:52.359
<v Speaker 5>the success that he was able to have as a rookie.

0:27:53.040 --> 0:27:54.720
<v Speaker 5>We've said this and read I think you've been on.

0:27:54.840 --> 0:27:56.960
<v Speaker 5>We said it like we kind of like our quarterbacks

0:27:56.960 --> 0:27:58.800
<v Speaker 5>to come into the league with some scuffs on them,

0:27:59.080 --> 0:28:00.920
<v Speaker 5>Like we don't want to bring new shoes that are

0:28:00.960 --> 0:28:03.520
<v Speaker 5>just completely polished and they don't have any I need

0:28:03.560 --> 0:28:05.200
<v Speaker 5>them scuffed up a little bit because it's going to

0:28:05.240 --> 0:28:08.000
<v Speaker 5>give me a chance to maybe get through the adversity

0:28:08.119 --> 0:28:10.919
<v Speaker 5>in the first year a little quicker. And for Jade Daniels,

0:28:10.920 --> 0:28:13.240
<v Speaker 5>he was able to get through that lo that go

0:28:13.280 --> 0:28:15.400
<v Speaker 5>outside with his rears being hurt. But he got through

0:28:15.400 --> 0:28:17.520
<v Speaker 5>that period and he is being great when they needed

0:28:17.600 --> 0:28:18.160
<v Speaker 5>him to be great.

0:28:19.000 --> 0:28:21.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and look, I think that again like his.

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<v Speaker 2>What we're talking about in being a player that elevates,

0:28:26.200 --> 0:28:27.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, you look at other rookies that have gone

0:28:28.240 --> 0:28:31.040
<v Speaker 2>to where he's taking this team to the championship. Brown,

0:28:31.119 --> 0:28:34.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean like they had dominant defenses and Washington's good

0:28:34.480 --> 0:28:34.840
<v Speaker 2>they're not.

0:28:35.480 --> 0:28:38.240
<v Speaker 1>They're those quarterbacks. Those quarterbacks on that list that we

0:28:38.280 --> 0:28:40.640
<v Speaker 1>have on our chat right now were not the driving

0:28:40.720 --> 0:28:42.760
<v Speaker 1>force of their team. They were not the lead actor.

0:28:42.800 --> 0:28:46.280
<v Speaker 1>They were supporting characters. And this is a totally different deal.

0:28:46.600 --> 0:28:49.680
<v Speaker 2>This is done like anything we've seen, truly, because none

0:28:49.720 --> 0:28:51.520
<v Speaker 2>of us would sit here and say, if you look

0:28:51.720 --> 0:28:54.600
<v Speaker 2>pound for pound, player for player on that Washington roster,

0:28:54.800 --> 0:28:57.160
<v Speaker 2>while they have played well together, that did not look

0:28:57.200 --> 0:28:58.840
<v Speaker 2>like an NFC Championship game roster.

0:28:59.480 --> 0:29:03.120
<v Speaker 1>No, just just to be fair, No, No, it's incredible.

0:29:03.160 --> 0:29:05.040
<v Speaker 1>And look you took down the number one seed on

0:29:05.080 --> 0:29:07.800
<v Speaker 1>the road and did it convincingly. Just and and again.

0:29:08.360 --> 0:29:12.920
<v Speaker 1>Part of the story of the week, Buck is turnovers.

0:29:13.080 --> 0:29:16.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, that's it's been the it's been the theme,

0:29:16.240 --> 0:29:18.600
<v Speaker 1>uh through a bunch of these games. You get the

0:29:19.040 --> 0:29:21.760
<v Speaker 1>turnover margin, I don't know, five to nothing. That seems

0:29:21.800 --> 0:29:24.040
<v Speaker 1>like that's gonna be problematic if you're like, when you

0:29:24.080 --> 0:29:28.400
<v Speaker 1>turn that, but do you do you? We talked about

0:29:28.400 --> 0:29:30.120
<v Speaker 1>this because it looks like they're both gonna get head

0:29:30.160 --> 0:29:32.440
<v Speaker 1>coaching jobs. Ben Johnson OC is gonna get one and

0:29:32.560 --> 0:29:36.160
<v Speaker 1>Glenn's gonna get one, and they're both fantastic coaches. Fantastic candidates.

0:29:36.160 --> 0:29:40.000
<v Speaker 1>But we had said on here that look, you might

0:29:40.120 --> 0:29:43.600
<v Speaker 1>think there's I'm not distracted at all. There's no issues here.

0:29:43.720 --> 0:29:47.720
<v Speaker 1>You the way that these these organizations and buildings work

0:29:47.800 --> 0:29:51.000
<v Speaker 1>like it is an obsession. They work long hours to

0:29:51.080 --> 0:29:53.560
<v Speaker 1>get ready each and every week. You can't tell me

0:29:53.600 --> 0:29:55.600
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't have an impact. Man, When you're having to

0:29:55.640 --> 0:29:58.520
<v Speaker 1>do interviews for you know, your your dream jobs, the

0:29:58.600 --> 0:30:00.440
<v Speaker 1>job you've coveted it since you were a kid. How

0:30:00.440 --> 0:30:03.320
<v Speaker 1>could you not be a little bit distracted on that stuff?

0:30:04.080 --> 0:30:06.120
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, you can't. You can't fully focus.

0:30:06.160 --> 0:30:08.080
<v Speaker 5>I don't care what you are because you're playing different

0:30:08.080 --> 0:30:10.680
<v Speaker 5>scenarios in your head. Who am I bringing with me?

0:30:10.800 --> 0:30:12.800
<v Speaker 5>What do I want? What am I looking for? You

0:30:12.840 --> 0:30:16.160
<v Speaker 5>have to have some knowledge of the other roster. I mean,

0:30:16.160 --> 0:30:19.360
<v Speaker 5>if you have multiple interviews three or four other rosters

0:30:19.400 --> 0:30:21.720
<v Speaker 5>and how you would build those teams, that's a lot

0:30:22.040 --> 0:30:24.440
<v Speaker 5>of brain space that's being occupied when you really need

0:30:24.480 --> 0:30:27.240
<v Speaker 5>to be focusing on the game plan. It's unfortunate that

0:30:27.280 --> 0:30:30.520
<v Speaker 5>they didn't play at their best, but it has to

0:30:30.560 --> 0:30:33.720
<v Speaker 5>play a small part and why maybe those teams on

0:30:33.760 --> 0:30:34.320
<v Speaker 5>both sides of the.

0:30:34.280 --> 0:30:37.680
<v Speaker 4>Ball didn't look the way they've looked the entire season.

0:30:38.160 --> 0:30:40.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, by the way, I think rap sheet just was

0:30:40.880 --> 0:30:43.800
<v Speaker 2>talking about Aaron glenn Is interviewing for the second time

0:30:43.840 --> 0:30:46.120
<v Speaker 2>in person with the Jets, and then he's got the

0:30:46.120 --> 0:30:46.920
<v Speaker 2>Saints right after that.

0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:49.120
<v Speaker 1>Feels like, yeah, he's getting one of those he's getting

0:30:49.120 --> 0:30:51.239
<v Speaker 1>one of those gigs and good friend, he's a good

0:30:51.240 --> 0:30:53.960
<v Speaker 1>football coach. But does this feel I don't want to

0:30:53.960 --> 0:30:56.520
<v Speaker 1>say window closing. I think that's a little early on

0:30:56.560 --> 0:30:58.920
<v Speaker 1>that one. But you also have your time when this

0:30:58.960 --> 0:31:01.000
<v Speaker 1>is your best shot, when you have home field advantage

0:31:01.040 --> 0:31:03.120
<v Speaker 1>all the way throughout, when you have continuity on your

0:31:03.120 --> 0:31:07.080
<v Speaker 1>coaching staff. I know the defense had been besieged with injury,

0:31:07.120 --> 0:31:09.480
<v Speaker 1>but man, that was still you know, this is a

0:31:10.240 --> 0:31:10.600
<v Speaker 1>This is.

0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:11.320
<v Speaker 4>That you got to be.

0:31:11.400 --> 0:31:13.400
<v Speaker 1>You needed to beat a rookie quarterback, and then you

0:31:13.440 --> 0:31:16.040
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't You would have been at home against a hobbled

0:31:16.200 --> 0:31:19.320
<v Speaker 1>Jalen Hurts for a chance to go to a Super Bowl.

0:31:19.360 --> 0:31:21.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean that it's hard to see them having a

0:31:21.800 --> 0:31:23.920
<v Speaker 1>better opportunity than the one that they had this year,

0:31:23.960 --> 0:31:25.440
<v Speaker 1>which you know sucks for the Alliance.

0:31:26.200 --> 0:31:28.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you can almost make the argument that you feel now,

0:31:28.840 --> 0:31:32.480
<v Speaker 2>look offensively, they've got a great young core and and

0:31:32.520 --> 0:31:34.840
<v Speaker 2>that's the kese in. You know, a young, young ish

0:31:34.960 --> 0:31:36.800
<v Speaker 2>quarterback in the prime of his career.

0:31:36.880 --> 0:31:37.920
<v Speaker 3>You feel pretty good about that.

0:31:38.320 --> 0:31:40.160
<v Speaker 2>But like you can almost make the argument that the

0:31:40.360 --> 0:31:42.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, you look at where the Rams are and

0:31:42.840 --> 0:31:45.600
<v Speaker 2>like they're feeling pretty good about that young group, especially

0:31:45.600 --> 0:31:47.479
<v Speaker 2>on defense that they've got, that they're going to continue

0:31:47.480 --> 0:31:50.360
<v Speaker 2>to get better in terms of window, you know, being open.

0:31:50.400 --> 0:31:52.200
<v Speaker 3>The problem is, you know, how much longer are they

0:31:52.200 --> 0:31:54.120
<v Speaker 3>going to go with Stafford. I think it is obviously

0:31:54.120 --> 0:31:55.200
<v Speaker 3>the biggest difference there.

0:31:56.200 --> 0:31:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would say also Detroit has a bunch of

0:31:58.040 --> 0:32:01.920
<v Speaker 1>good players on for on rookie deal too. They haven't

0:32:01.960 --> 0:32:04.520
<v Speaker 1>had to pay yet, so they're still talented. You know,

0:32:04.520 --> 0:32:06.480
<v Speaker 1>they got to make sure they filled the right spots. Here.

0:32:07.080 --> 0:32:09.920
<v Speaker 1>What the coaches are getting ready to lose Buck Houston,

0:32:10.040 --> 0:32:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Kansas City. We've touched on it a little bit earlier,

0:32:13.000 --> 0:32:16.280
<v Speaker 1>but it's just it's a clean brand of football. Man.

0:32:16.360 --> 0:32:20.120
<v Speaker 1>It's not always the most aesthetically pleasing, but the defense.

0:32:20.160 --> 0:32:22.800
<v Speaker 1>This is a defensive team. And that's why I've said,

0:32:22.840 --> 0:32:25.520
<v Speaker 1>I this used to be an explosive offense with an

0:32:25.560 --> 0:32:29.400
<v Speaker 1>opportunistic defense. Now it's an explosive defense with an opportunistic offense.

0:32:30.000 --> 0:32:32.080
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and we can talk about the defense a sas

0:32:32.160 --> 0:32:34.640
<v Speaker 5>George gott Loftis and company really being able to get

0:32:34.680 --> 0:32:38.120
<v Speaker 5>after c. J. Stroud disrupt the rhythm dominated the game.

0:32:38.400 --> 0:32:41.640
<v Speaker 5>On that standpoint, Old coaches always talked about this. I'm

0:32:41.640 --> 0:32:44.080
<v Speaker 5>sure you got the we all played coming up where

0:32:44.120 --> 0:32:45.840
<v Speaker 5>the coach would say, hey, they're three phases in the

0:32:45.880 --> 0:32:47.520
<v Speaker 5>game for us to win, you got to win two

0:32:47.600 --> 0:32:47.920
<v Speaker 5>of them.

0:32:48.120 --> 0:32:51.080
<v Speaker 4>And the Kansas City Chiefs won two phases. They won defense,

0:32:51.400 --> 0:32:52.600
<v Speaker 4>and they won special teams.

0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:54.880
<v Speaker 5>As much as I want to talk about their defense

0:32:54.920 --> 0:32:57.680
<v Speaker 5>playing lights out, they won the game because of their

0:32:57.680 --> 0:33:00.239
<v Speaker 5>special teams and what they were able to do three

0:33:00.320 --> 0:33:04.920
<v Speaker 5>yard kickoff return right out the gate. They then benefited

0:33:04.960 --> 0:33:09.880
<v Speaker 5>from a miss field goal, a miss pat they blocked

0:33:09.920 --> 0:33:12.320
<v Speaker 5>the field goal. I mean, all the things that Dave

0:33:12.400 --> 0:33:16.080
<v Speaker 5>Toe and his units do. They they win in the margins,

0:33:16.120 --> 0:33:17.760
<v Speaker 5>and we've seen this time and time again.

0:33:18.080 --> 0:33:20.640
<v Speaker 4>They understand what's required.

0:33:20.160 --> 0:33:22.400
<v Speaker 5>To win and they're willing to make those plays in

0:33:22.440 --> 0:33:25.000
<v Speaker 5>those areas to win the game. Hass off to the

0:33:25.040 --> 0:33:27.000
<v Speaker 5>Chiefs continue to do what they do win.

0:33:28.640 --> 0:33:29.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:33:29.640 --> 0:33:34.120
<v Speaker 2>And it's still, though, feels like this is a team

0:33:34.720 --> 0:33:37.120
<v Speaker 2>that's vulnerable like this is a I mean, this is

0:33:37.120 --> 0:33:39.840
<v Speaker 2>a team. While as sound as they are, you know,

0:33:39.880 --> 0:33:41.600
<v Speaker 2>in some of those areas that we're talking about, the

0:33:41.640 --> 0:33:45.520
<v Speaker 2>simple areas like if the team on the other sideline

0:33:45.680 --> 0:33:48.200
<v Speaker 2>can also do those things, it feels like more often

0:33:48.200 --> 0:33:49.520
<v Speaker 2>than not, they're gonna have a chance.

0:33:49.360 --> 0:33:50.920
<v Speaker 3>To beat the Kansas City Chiefs.

0:33:51.240 --> 0:33:54.320
<v Speaker 2>The Houston Texans had every opportunity to beat the Kansas

0:33:54.360 --> 0:33:56.400
<v Speaker 2>City Chiefs. I mean, like, obviously, don't let up a

0:33:56.400 --> 0:33:59.560
<v Speaker 2>seventy five yard kick return on the opening kick and

0:34:00.000 --> 0:34:03.880
<v Speaker 2>special teams was a big reason why they were unable

0:34:03.880 --> 0:34:05.440
<v Speaker 2>to get it done. You know, miss field goals, I

0:34:05.440 --> 0:34:07.520
<v Speaker 2>get you know, I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna you know,

0:34:07.600 --> 0:34:10.440
<v Speaker 2>bash Kamy Fairbarn too much for missing a fifty five yarder,

0:34:10.480 --> 0:34:13.879
<v Speaker 2>but extra point you know one that's a little lock

0:34:14.120 --> 0:34:15.640
<v Speaker 2>start block you got.

0:34:15.760 --> 0:34:18.520
<v Speaker 3>You gotta find I get it. The other stuff.

0:34:18.680 --> 0:34:21.000
<v Speaker 2>It's tough conditions, but it's tough on the other side too.

0:34:22.560 --> 0:34:24.920
<v Speaker 2>But ultimately, like this was not a game where the

0:34:24.920 --> 0:34:28.239
<v Speaker 2>Texans were all classed even very short handed. Je I

0:34:28.280 --> 0:34:30.520
<v Speaker 2>just I didn't I didn't see it that way with

0:34:30.600 --> 0:34:31.640
<v Speaker 2>the way this thing ended up.

0:34:32.200 --> 0:34:35.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, I it's just a The thing about

0:34:35.800 --> 0:34:37.680
<v Speaker 1>the playoffs is it always and I saw what the

0:34:37.760 --> 0:34:40.200
<v Speaker 1>Chargers doing their game against the Texans, is that your

0:34:40.280 --> 0:34:43.160
<v Speaker 1>warts have a way of appearing at the worst time.

0:34:43.680 --> 0:34:46.080
<v Speaker 1>And when I studied that Texans team getting ready for

0:34:46.120 --> 0:34:49.399
<v Speaker 1>that first playoff game, man, I'm like, gosh, if they

0:34:49.400 --> 0:34:54.360
<v Speaker 1>get behind, they they are awful at communicating games, twists

0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:58.880
<v Speaker 1>and blitzes up front like they they get more. And

0:34:58.960 --> 0:35:02.440
<v Speaker 1>it was like, well, here we are, and Buck, I

0:35:03.480 --> 0:35:05.400
<v Speaker 1>don't I don't want to. I hate it when we

0:35:05.800 --> 0:35:07.919
<v Speaker 1>do this, but I'm gonna do it anyway. So yes,

0:35:08.160 --> 0:35:11.360
<v Speaker 1>you blanket statement, blanket statement. Here we go, blanket statement.

0:35:11.880 --> 0:35:14.000
<v Speaker 1>How many times have we seen the Shanahan offense when

0:35:14.000 --> 0:35:16.080
<v Speaker 1>they get down and there's no illusion of run and

0:35:16.120 --> 0:35:19.120
<v Speaker 1>it's dropped back past, they're done it.

0:35:19.719 --> 0:35:22.200
<v Speaker 5>It's a big problem, and it's one of the things.

0:35:22.239 --> 0:35:24.759
<v Speaker 5>They always play from ahead. The offense is built to

0:35:24.760 --> 0:35:27.160
<v Speaker 5>play from ahead where they can dictate the terms, where

0:35:27.160 --> 0:35:29.960
<v Speaker 5>they can get you seduced by the run action and

0:35:29.960 --> 0:35:32.239
<v Speaker 5>then throw it down the field. We have seen that

0:35:32.400 --> 0:35:35.520
<v Speaker 5>time and time again, and when they are behind, they

0:35:35.560 --> 0:35:38.960
<v Speaker 5>don't have a true drop back component to the passing game.

0:35:39.040 --> 0:35:42.400
<v Speaker 4>And so not that it's a narrow path to victory

0:35:42.440 --> 0:35:43.000
<v Speaker 4>for them.

0:35:43.200 --> 0:35:46.960
<v Speaker 5>But the game plan in the game mode, the game

0:35:47.000 --> 0:35:49.400
<v Speaker 5>script can't go a rid because it's really hard for

0:35:49.440 --> 0:35:51.920
<v Speaker 5>them to climb their way back into it, just because

0:35:52.440 --> 0:35:54.560
<v Speaker 5>the playbook isn't built for them to be from behind.

0:35:54.600 --> 0:35:56.200
<v Speaker 4>So it's something that they have to talk about, something

0:35:56.239 --> 0:35:56.880
<v Speaker 4>they have to work on.

0:35:57.400 --> 0:36:00.000
<v Speaker 5>It's certainly something that's popped up not only in Houston

0:36:00.080 --> 0:36:03.320
<v Speaker 5>but with other teams to run iterations of this offense.

0:36:03.960 --> 0:36:07.920
<v Speaker 2>Guys, four of their eight sacks came in the final

0:36:07.960 --> 0:36:10.200
<v Speaker 2>four minutes of the game. You want to talk about closers, Yeah,

0:36:10.360 --> 0:36:13.040
<v Speaker 2>talk about the blitz being on CJ Stroud like that.

0:36:13.160 --> 0:36:15.920
<v Speaker 3>To your point, DJ not being able to stuff is

0:36:15.960 --> 0:36:16.439
<v Speaker 3>coming front.

0:36:16.560 --> 0:36:20.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Obviously, credit credit to Bags for understanding and taking

0:36:20.920 --> 0:36:23.760
<v Speaker 2>advantage of some of those weaknesses that you're talking about.

0:36:24.000 --> 0:36:26.120
<v Speaker 2>But CJ didn't have a chance on a couple of those,

0:36:26.160 --> 0:36:28.920
<v Speaker 2>like Justin Reids in the space mask like this, you know,

0:36:29.440 --> 0:36:32.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean it was that's there's no there's no winner

0:36:32.560 --> 0:36:32.759
<v Speaker 2>on that.

0:36:33.400 --> 0:36:35.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I think that's why it's also very important. And

0:36:35.960 --> 0:36:38.600
<v Speaker 1>we'll we'll get into tomorrow's episode, we'll start previewing the

0:36:38.600 --> 0:36:40.520
<v Speaker 1>the games going forward, but just one thing on that

0:36:40.680 --> 0:36:43.000
<v Speaker 1>is to beat the Kansas City Chiefs, I think you

0:36:43.040 --> 0:36:45.359
<v Speaker 1>have to get on them early and hang on. I

0:36:45.360 --> 0:36:47.239
<v Speaker 1>think that's that's the way to beat them. I don't

0:36:47.239 --> 0:36:48.719
<v Speaker 1>think you want to be in a trail position with

0:36:48.760 --> 0:36:51.480
<v Speaker 1>Spags and Chris Jones and all these different blitz packages

0:36:51.520 --> 0:36:54.239
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna throw at you. And Carl Loftus has really

0:36:54.239 --> 0:36:56.000
<v Speaker 1>started to merge and be a really good player. So

0:36:57.120 --> 0:36:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Kansas City they might just ugly their way to a

0:37:00.280 --> 0:37:03.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, fourth super Bowl here. I mean, that's that's

0:37:03.120 --> 0:37:05.279
<v Speaker 1>what they're doing. Man, there's something to be said for it.

0:37:06.200 --> 0:37:09.759
<v Speaker 1>I always just come back to Bucky's favorite line, you know,

0:37:09.840 --> 0:37:13.799
<v Speaker 1>winners win. I mean that's they just find a way

0:37:13.840 --> 0:37:17.080
<v Speaker 1>to get to the winner circle. Yeah, that's again it's

0:37:17.120 --> 0:37:19.120
<v Speaker 1>crazy to do it. All right, Well, this is fun

0:37:19.360 --> 0:37:21.920
<v Speaker 1>looking back on these ball games. We have another episode

0:37:21.960 --> 0:37:24.560
<v Speaker 1>coming up tomorrow where we will look ahead at the

0:37:24.560 --> 0:37:27.759
<v Speaker 1>conference championship games. I want to also real quick before

0:37:27.800 --> 0:37:29.600
<v Speaker 1>we get out of here, as we went along on this,

0:37:30.200 --> 0:37:33.759
<v Speaker 1>uh just a quick give me thirty seconds on how

0:37:33.800 --> 0:37:35.840
<v Speaker 1>in the world Notre Dame shocks the world tonight.

0:37:36.120 --> 0:37:39.040
<v Speaker 2>Rtt go ahead, Well, they don't they don't allow Ohio

0:37:39.040 --> 0:37:42.040
<v Speaker 2>State's defensive line to wreck shop like they've been doing throughout.

0:37:41.760 --> 0:37:43.240
<v Speaker 3>The entire college Football Playoff.

0:37:43.440 --> 0:37:46.040
<v Speaker 2>Like I know, we look at you know, Jeremiah Smith

0:37:46.120 --> 0:37:49.040
<v Speaker 2>and Will Howard and Traveon Henderson. But to me, it's

0:37:49.120 --> 0:37:51.839
<v Speaker 2>j T Twee Molollow, it's Jack Sawyer, it's Ty Leek,

0:37:51.880 --> 0:37:55.000
<v Speaker 2>it's Ty Williams, that whole crew. If they are the

0:37:55.080 --> 0:37:57.920
<v Speaker 2>dominant position group in this game, Ohio State wins going

0:37:57.920 --> 0:38:00.359
<v Speaker 2>out because that means Jeremiah loves not run the ball

0:38:00.400 --> 0:38:03.160
<v Speaker 2>all over the place and Riley Leonard's getting pressured and

0:38:03.239 --> 0:38:05.960
<v Speaker 2>sacked and hit and that's going to be a recipe

0:38:06.000 --> 0:38:07.759
<v Speaker 2>for disaster. So to me, it's about a lot of

0:38:07.760 --> 0:38:11.120
<v Speaker 2>State's defensive line up front, which has been absolutely dominant

0:38:11.120 --> 0:38:12.719
<v Speaker 2>throughout the course of these last three games.

0:38:12.719 --> 0:38:14.680
<v Speaker 5>To them. Yeah, for me, I may be the long

0:38:14.719 --> 0:38:17.160
<v Speaker 5>whoopingness because I actually like Notre Dame chances of pulling

0:38:17.200 --> 0:38:19.200
<v Speaker 5>this off. And I think the experience that they've had

0:38:19.280 --> 0:38:22.800
<v Speaker 5>in playing Notre Dame playing Ohio State before. I remember

0:38:22.880 --> 0:38:24.840
<v Speaker 5>they played Marvin Harrison junior and they were one of

0:38:24.920 --> 0:38:26.680
<v Speaker 5>the few teams at the time they played man demand

0:38:26.680 --> 0:38:29.960
<v Speaker 5>against Ohio State. I don't believe they're going to fear

0:38:29.960 --> 0:38:32.399
<v Speaker 5>Ohio State like some teams do. I think they're gonna

0:38:32.400 --> 0:38:33.920
<v Speaker 5>match up, They're gonna line up, and they're gonna try

0:38:33.960 --> 0:38:36.000
<v Speaker 5>and make this a Will Howard game. They're going to

0:38:36.160 --> 0:38:39.319
<v Speaker 5>dare the quarterback to make enough big plays to win,

0:38:39.560 --> 0:38:42.800
<v Speaker 5>and if Notre Dame is able to just cobble together

0:38:42.960 --> 0:38:45.560
<v Speaker 5>a similns of offense where they can control the game

0:38:45.640 --> 0:38:48.040
<v Speaker 5>and just get it to the fourth quarter, I feel

0:38:48.040 --> 0:38:50.000
<v Speaker 5>pretty confident that they're gonna be able to lock up

0:38:50.120 --> 0:38:51.279
<v Speaker 5>and play on the outside.

0:38:51.400 --> 0:38:52.280
<v Speaker 4>I'm pretty confident.

0:38:52.480 --> 0:38:55.480
<v Speaker 1>How many carries if Notre Dame wins the ballgame? How

0:38:55.480 --> 0:38:57.520
<v Speaker 1>many carries for Riley Leonard in this ball game book?

0:38:58.280 --> 0:39:00.359
<v Speaker 4>Oh, I think we used them like a like this

0:39:00.440 --> 0:39:00.600
<v Speaker 4>is a.

0:39:02.680 --> 0:39:05.040
<v Speaker 1>This is a tip. I was gonna say twelve to fifteen.

0:39:05.560 --> 0:39:08.319
<v Speaker 5>Oh, this is this is uh and we've seen this

0:39:08.360 --> 0:39:12.160
<v Speaker 5>because it was funny. He is going to take the

0:39:12.200 --> 0:39:15.360
<v Speaker 5>direct snap, and he's going to power in iso and

0:39:15.400 --> 0:39:19.000
<v Speaker 5>all those things. I think you need no stone unturned. Yeah,

0:39:19.040 --> 0:39:21.560
<v Speaker 5>I think fifteen plus is what we're shooting for.

0:39:22.120 --> 0:39:23.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I think I think they got to turn Will

0:39:23.600 --> 0:39:25.080
<v Speaker 1>Howard over to win the ball game. Though, I think

0:39:25.080 --> 0:39:26.640
<v Speaker 1>they've got to turn him over a couple of times,

0:39:26.640 --> 0:39:28.200
<v Speaker 1>and maybe that's what they do. Maybe they just go

0:39:28.280 --> 0:39:30.839
<v Speaker 1>nose to nose, lock him up and uh and they

0:39:30.920 --> 0:39:31.319
<v Speaker 1>make play.

0:39:32.200 --> 0:39:34.920
<v Speaker 4>Either they're gonna blow us out, but we're gonna win it.

0:39:34.960 --> 0:39:37.440
<v Speaker 4>But like playing zone and letting will Howard have whatever

0:39:37.440 --> 0:39:41.719
<v Speaker 4>he wants, that's not the recipe, No risky, no biscuits.

0:39:41.800 --> 0:39:44.400
<v Speaker 1>That was the line. I think it was I remember

0:39:44.400 --> 0:39:46.120
<v Speaker 1>who did the report, but it was maybe it was

0:39:46.200 --> 0:39:48.200
<v Speaker 1>Jay Glazer in the pregame, but he was talking about

0:39:48.239 --> 0:39:50.400
<v Speaker 1>talking to Dan Quinn and he's like, how do you

0:39:50.440 --> 0:39:52.520
<v Speaker 1>feel about today? And he's like, we're going to take

0:39:52.560 --> 0:39:55.440
<v Speaker 1>our swings. I'll tell you that much. I was like, okay,

0:39:55.840 --> 0:39:57.279
<v Speaker 1>and they did. They were going for it on four

0:39:57.360 --> 0:40:00.360
<v Speaker 1>downs and just like there is no fear in this ojo.

0:40:00.480 --> 0:40:02.239
<v Speaker 1>We might lose, but we aren't going in there to

0:40:02.360 --> 0:40:05.120
<v Speaker 1>be towed and scared. It's all right, looking forward to

0:40:05.160 --> 0:40:07.920
<v Speaker 1>that ballgame. We'll recap that later on a week as well.

0:40:08.160 --> 0:40:09.480
<v Speaker 1>That's going to do it for I appreciate you guys

0:40:09.480 --> 0:40:10.799
<v Speaker 1>hanging on with us, See you next time. Right here,

0:40:10.840 --> 0:40:11.720
<v Speaker 1>onto the sticks,