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Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Welcome to move the sticks, DJ, Bucky

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Speaker 1: Rhett with you guys. I got to say it was

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Speaker 1: fun yesterday. Not only a great games, incredible games, which

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Speaker 1: we're going to get into on today's episode, but it

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Speaker 1: was fun to actually be together read I don't know

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Speaker 1: the last time we were all together sitting there watching

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Speaker 1: a football game. That was fun.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of been been some pieces of us here,

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Speaker 2: you know, throughout Thursdays and Sundays, and Bucky and I

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Speaker 2: have been on the desk for NFL Game Day highlights

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Speaker 2: throughout the playoffs on Sundays, which has been fun to

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Speaker 2: you know, kind of take one of the games and

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Speaker 2: then push it forward into what we're going to see

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Speaker 2: in the next one. And I think the one thing

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Speaker 2: that we all kind of you know, witnessed in that

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Speaker 2: theme for the day, which were our turnovers really hindering

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Speaker 2: the losing team in this one.

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Speaker 3: And we'll get into that throughout.

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Speaker 2: But it was a good weekend of football, some good

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Speaker 2: hard football really all around.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's funny to playoffs change, but the way

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Speaker 4: that you win doesn't.

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Speaker 5: And the guys that don't make a lot of mistakes,

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Speaker 5: the teams that don't beat themselves are the ones that

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Speaker 5: continue to advance. And we saw a time and time

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Speaker 5: again we talked about turnovers being the number one deciding

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Speaker 5: factor and who wins and loses games. It's that is

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Speaker 5: blowing assignments, is silly penalties, things that you would tell

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Speaker 5: a little league team if you want to be really good,

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Speaker 5: if you just do these things, you have a chance.

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Speaker 5: And it's not so much teams winning games, is teams

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Speaker 5: losing games, and if you can avoid the implosion, you

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Speaker 5: have a chance to advance. And that's what we really

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Speaker 5: saw this weekend with all the teams that were able

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Speaker 5: to advance.

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Speaker 1: Buck, you'll appreciate this because you know that I like

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Speaker 1: baseball and I always bring stuff back to baseball. Red

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Speaker 1: hates baseball, so he's not going to participate in this

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Speaker 1: particular analogy. But I was watching those games, Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: was watching those games just thinking of the Yankees in

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Speaker 1: the World Series. Like you think about all the effort

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Speaker 1: it takes to get to this point, and then like

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Speaker 1: the simple things two hands on the ball, in the

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Speaker 1: pocket right when you've got a crowd around, you keep

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Speaker 1: your left hand on the football. When you catch the

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Speaker 1: ball in the middle of the field, you've got to

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Speaker 1: cover up because you don't know where defenders are coming from.

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Speaker 1: Like that's like Aaron Judge dropping a fly ball. That's

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Speaker 1: like them. Not that's not like Garrett Cole not covering

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Speaker 1: first base. Like these are things that you learn in

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Speaker 1: the earliest part of your football career and it's amazing,

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Speaker 1: and the biggest moments on the biggest stage buck that

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Speaker 1: some of that stuff is what caused you to lose.

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Speaker 5: I'm so glad that you brought us back to baseball

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Speaker 5: because one of my favorite quotes comes from Joe Madden,

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Speaker 5: who won the World Series with the Chicago Cubs, and

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Speaker 5: their theme that year they won it was do simple

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Speaker 5: better and literally in the postseason is if you just

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Speaker 5: do the simple things better than your opponent, you're going

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Speaker 5: to win. And you just talk about avoiding the unforced

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Speaker 5: eras the things that you really can control, because you

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Speaker 5: can control all those things. When it comes to ball security,

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Speaker 5: you understand winning the crowd, cover up to put two

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Speaker 5: size all those other things, and it's just amazing, you know.

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Speaker 4: And it'll take us to the kanc Chiefs.

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Speaker 5: When we eventually get there, people get mad at the Chiefs,

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Speaker 5: but to me, the chief said, done what the Patriots

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Speaker 5: did when they had their run. They've learned how to

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Speaker 5: do those little things better than their opponent, and whatever

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Speaker 5: And that's why they've been very, very hard to beat.

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Speaker 5: And that's why they also excelled in those one score games.

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Speaker 5: They don't give games away.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, RTT. I want to get to you,

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Speaker 1: But you kind of connected the two games with the turnovers.

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Speaker 1: So there's five turnovers combined for the teams that lost

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Speaker 3: Man, tough.

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Speaker 2: I feel for Mark Andrews, right, this is what a

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: But look, it was a hard play.

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Speaker 2: It was not an easy catch, right, I'll say that

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Speaker 2: When you're an All Pro and Pro bowlder, that's the

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Speaker 2: But again, you come back to it also like he's

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Speaker 1: And resulted in three points going the other way. Those

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's hard.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to boil it down like that because obviously

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know the thing about it, the two point play,

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Speaker 4: Another baseball reference, a change up, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: So like you're sitting here waiting for you're you're ready

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Speaker 5: But I understand why Lamar Jackson did it, because he

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Speaker 4: Which is hard to say.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna blame the quarterback for a drop pass.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I wanted to go back. I haven't had a

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Speaker 1: I've been and I've been in that situation, Buck exactly

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Speaker 1: just kind of pulls. It just kind of just kind

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Speaker 1: tweet it. Rosental said he, oh, did he tweet it?

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Speaker 1: He said, oh, they should go they should go for it.

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Speaker 1: And I said no, no, no, no, no. If you go for it,

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Speaker 1: there's one drive you lose. You kick the field goal.

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Speaker 1: You have three opportunities left to win the game. You

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Speaker 1: give them a touchdown, but you stop the two point conversion,

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Speaker 1: You win the game. You give up the touchdown, the

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Speaker 5: It is mitigating risks right in those moments is mitigating risks? Okay,

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Speaker 5: So even at their worst, as you laid out your

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Speaker 5: three scenarios, we still go to overtime. I understood it

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Speaker 6: But I was like, okay, a lot of questions on

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Speaker 6: the ball was at the two.

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Speaker 3: They got to the one yard line too, Yeah, yeah, they.

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Speaker 5: Then I was like, okay, man, Josh Allen is unstoppable

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Speaker 5: But they lost yardage and at that point I was like, man,

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Speaker 5: you gotta kick it right. You got to you got

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Speaker 4: I didn't know that Lamar Jess was.

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Speaker 1: Right down.

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Speaker 3: By the way, after the point version. This was not

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Speaker 3: a foregone conclusion.

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Speaker 1: You might have had four opportunities to win that game.

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Speaker 1: stop the two point. That was the right decision by McDermott.

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Speaker 1: And he said it after the game. He's like, look,

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Speaker 1: if we were right on the doorstep, I probably go,

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Speaker 1: thought that was smart on their end. Man, Derrick Henry,

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Speaker 3: You know, in the postseason, they still ran the ball.

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Speaker 3: I don't think you could ask for much more than that.

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Speaker 5: I would say this because there's always gonna be a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I would just still last thing I would

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was crucial. Let's let's get to the other

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Speaker 1: me just ratt I'll tee you up on this one first.

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Speaker 1: But if I told you before the game, Matthew Stafford's

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Speaker 1: no picks. Jalen Hurts is only going to throw for

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Speaker 1: we got a pretty good shot at going on there

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Speaker 3: Now it came back.

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Speaker 2: It came back late, late, late, like a little bit

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Speaker 2: too late, you know, as you go under four minutes,

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Speaker 2: they made a heck of a push and really had

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Speaker 3: Ends up ending the game and ending the season. And

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Speaker 3: that's what it came down to me, like thinking about that.

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Speaker 2: Game for me, and obviously with the turnovers and that's

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 3: Play football is hard.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I mean it is hard, and it's the

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Speaker 5: And after the safety, I was like, oh man, this

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Speaker 5: had Jalen Hurst being down at home, all that aks

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Speaker 5: and anxiety, But the fumble, you scoop it up and

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Speaker 5: the Eagles have to learn how to cash in these

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Speaker 4: And at some.

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Speaker 5: Point you can't keep trading threes for sevens. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: You know what's interesting though about the Eagles, man, is

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Speaker 1: I feel like every week and it's not just you

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Speaker 1: know what our conversation is here, it's everywhere. I just

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Speaker 1: Philadelphi Eagles win football games. And I'm sitting here going, well, okay, well,

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Speaker 5: So what you're saying, are they the NFC version of

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Speaker 4: That's what I'm hearing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they were clean. They were cleaning this game.

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Speaker 1: They haven't always been clean, no, no, but in terms

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Speaker 5: They know how to win games. They know how to

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Speaker 5: talk about the dysfunction in the locker room and are

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Speaker 5: the end of the weekend, they always put a dub

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Speaker 4: And that's what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, Let me ask you this.

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Speaker 1: One of the things we've always said about the Kansas

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Speaker 1: and we can go through all of them. Von Miller

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Speaker 1: Jalen Carter closer? He closed that game?

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Speaker 3: Old Smith was part of it.

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Speaker 4: How about that? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: First with Jalen Carter, like Jalen Carter being everything that

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Speaker 5: the calendar flips because everyone loved him the player at Georgia.

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Speaker 5: You're worried about the character, but the player on tape,

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Speaker 5: there weren't many questions about what it can be. He

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Speaker 4: Better he plays.

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Speaker 5: But how about Nolan Smith, Because there was a lot

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Speaker 4: He's really been great throughout this playoff runt.

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Speaker 2: I would just call up the tweet that Jackie and

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Speaker 2: because it was Nolan Smith. Was I think DJ your

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Speaker 1: I had is my thirteenth player and he was the

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Speaker 1: thirtieth pick.

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Speaker 4: Yep, you know who My.

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Speaker 1: Comp was, ironically sweat Yeah, nice stand up, juicy change

442
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Speaker 1: of direction, he's got risk control, he can bend and

443
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Speaker 1: close plays with burst. I've made a point in here

444
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Speaker 1: about just like an effort thing, which you know I

445
00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,120
Speaker 1: always think is a big deal. That had a fake

446
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Speaker 1: punt called by Auburn and when I was watching that

447
00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:28,119
Speaker 1: game and he freaking stuffed it, which was like, Okay,

448
00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,160
Speaker 1: this guy's this guy's got all this athletic ability and explosiveness,

449
00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,960
Speaker 1: but he's also an instinctive football player. He's needed to play,

450
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Speaker 1: he's need to get out there. He'd missed some time

451
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Speaker 1: with injuries, and now you're seeing a chance that he's

452
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Speaker 1: got to play more and more and more. And he's

453
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Speaker 1: he's not the biggest guy in the world, but he

454
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Speaker 1: is a savage man.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And then was the other one, Yeah yeah, yeah, one

457
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Speaker 2: of the last picks of the draft, and yet you

458
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Speaker 2: had him in a like right around one hundred, So

459
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Speaker 2: they got some good value there.

460
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Speaker 4: What is what does juicy mean? I've never used that

461
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Speaker 4: in what is juicy su? I've never used I've never

462
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Speaker 4: used juicy. It's a new term for me. So I

463
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Speaker 4: just need to figure.

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Speaker 1: Out how you say if yeah, if you say like

465
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Speaker 1: a receiver's got juice, Like there's an explosiveness, but like

466
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Speaker 1: everything that no one Smith does, like as someone in

467
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Speaker 1: the front seven, everything's just got a lot of juice

468
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Speaker 1: to it. Like there's just speeding, twitch and explosiveness. No

469
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Speaker 1: matter where he's going, he's just got juicy. Dude, Like,

470
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Speaker 1: you know what you've been doing.

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Speaker 5: You've been hangling those baseball scouts for too long. I'm

472
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Speaker 5: gonna restrict you from texting.

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Speaker 1: With I need more words. I just sit here. I

474
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Speaker 1: feel like understand.

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Speaker 5: I feel like our guys from way back would be

476
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Speaker 5: like DJ, you know we've never used that in the report.

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Speaker 1: No, I'll tell you what I'm always I'm always looking

478
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Speaker 1: for new ways to say this. I'll be honest with you,

479
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Speaker 1: Like just to nerd out for a second, Like, there's

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Speaker 1: there's lots of scouting phrases that I've heard and picked

481
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Speaker 1: up since I left as a scout, like two of

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Speaker 1: my favorites over the last ten years. This is totally

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Speaker 1: off topic, but uh, stopping power as a tackler. I

484
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Speaker 1: ever used that when I was writing, but I heard

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Speaker 1: it for the first time. I was like, I, when

486
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Speaker 1: I hear a term and I know exactly what it

487
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Speaker 1: looks like, that's a great that's a great scouting term,

488
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Speaker 1: stopping power. And then the other one was and this

489
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Speaker 1: I think might have been from less Snead was he

490
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Speaker 1: he said that with the Rams, they focus on guys

491
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Speaker 1: who are grounded through the catch and that's Puka, that's all.

492
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Speaker 1: That's all. They're guys that they've brought in, which buck

493
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Speaker 1: is someone who's played the position. When you hear that,

494
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Speaker 1: you're like, oh, yeah, because the guys are confidence in

495
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Speaker 1: their hands, they run through the ball, they don't leave their.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, try try and create.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And guess.

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Speaker 3: What grounded through the catch point a little bit.

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Speaker 1: There go there you go, Yeah, I guess what you're Also,

500
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Speaker 1: you're also way more likely to break tackles when you

501
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Speaker 1: have your feet in the ground. So but anyways, those

502
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Speaker 1: are those are nerdy scout topics. There anything else on

503
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Speaker 1: that game, Buck, you want to hit on before we

504
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Speaker 1: take a break?

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Speaker 4: Here, No, we're good on that one.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's take a break, we come back. We'll

507
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Speaker 1: hit on these Saturday games right after this. All right, well,

508
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Speaker 1: let's uh, let's work from that Saturday night game, probably

509
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Speaker 1: the most surprising outcome of the weekend. Uh rhtt I

510
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Speaker 1: gotta tell you, man, I got This is what happens

511
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Speaker 1: with Bucky. He goes out and he makes strong takes.

512
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Speaker 1: He doesn't, he doesn't. She's not shy. He puts a

513
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Speaker 1: strong opinion out there. And I think he ranked I

514
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Speaker 1: don't even know what he ranked quarterbacks somehow, and he

515
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Speaker 1: had Jade Daniels up high in staid ranking. So so

516
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Speaker 1: I get hit. I get to go get your boy.

517
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Speaker 1: Your boy doesn't. He's crazy, He's lost it. What is

518
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Speaker 1: Bucky saying? And I'm like, I have no idea what

519
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Speaker 1: you're even talking about what is going on, and then

520
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Speaker 1: I finally started doing some homework, investigative work. I'm like, oh,

521
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Speaker 1: Bucky Jayde Daniels is legit, and Bucky put it out there,

522
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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, Jade Daniels goes and

523
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Speaker 1: does his thing, and Rhett, you'll be surprised to know

524
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Speaker 1: none of those same people had the were telling me

525
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Speaker 1: to get my guy anymore.

526
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Speaker 4: So so rhtt to take you back.

527
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Speaker 5: So DJ was out, it was Lance and I hosting

528
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Speaker 5: the pod, and we did a thing called Playoff Tiers

529
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Speaker 5: with the quarterbacks and so Tier one are your elite guys,

530
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Speaker 5: and so it was Pat Mahomes, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson,

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Speaker 5: and then if.

532
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Speaker 4: Through Jaydon Daniels and there now you know, yeah, spice

533
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Speaker 4: it up a little bit, so like yeah, listens like.

534
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Speaker 5: Whoa this is before the playoffs start and people are like,

535
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Speaker 5: how can you put him in Tier one before he

536
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Speaker 5: even plays a playoff game? Well that's the fun and

537
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Speaker 5: projecting like if I want to wait after seeing him,

538
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Speaker 5: like anybody can do that like that, that's what we're projecting, like,

539
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Speaker 5: And so the thing is, and I'll say this like

540
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Speaker 5: he is even beyond and It's also funny, like when

541
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Speaker 5: you go back in your notes and you recall certain

542
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Speaker 5: conversations that you had with people before and they gave

543
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Speaker 5: you a different answer on Jaydon Daniels, and then you

544
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Speaker 5: talk to him now at Arizonunderstated, They're like, oh, yeah,

545
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,159
Speaker 5: we always doing I'm like, oh, they celebrated when he left,

546
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Speaker 5: they celebrated, and now he's He's the one doing the celebration.

547
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Speaker 5: I will say his boys, his confidence, his composure, on

548
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,439
Speaker 5: top of the skills that he brings, he epitomizes what

549
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Speaker 5: you look for in a franchise player. And I can

550
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Speaker 5: only relate it to my time in Green Bay when

551
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Speaker 5: Brett Farr was in the middle of his three MVP

552
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Speaker 5: run and how on defense we felt when we had

553
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Speaker 5: number four on the team.

554
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Speaker 4: We're like, if we can just get the ball back,

555
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Speaker 4: he'll figure it out.

556
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Speaker 5: And the conversations that you hear from the Commander's players

557
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,199
Speaker 5: are very similar to that. He gives us hope, we

558
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Speaker 5: believe we can win because that dude is special. When

559
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Speaker 5: you have veteran players like Bobby Wagner and older players

560
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Speaker 5: saying that about the young guy, that's when you buy

561
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Speaker 5: in because the players will tell you real quickly. If

562
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Speaker 5: a guy has it, he definitely has the if factor

563
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Speaker 5: that you need.

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Speaker 2: I hard argue with that, and I just I think

565
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Speaker 2: truly when you look at that team and you look

566
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Speaker 2: at the way that he has elevated everyone around him

567
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Speaker 2: as such, I mean, this is that is a.

568
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Speaker 3: Team that they have. They're good defense. Dan Quin's a

569
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Speaker 3: heck of a coach.

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Speaker 2: I think Cliff Kingsbury has been a really nice job

571
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Speaker 2: of kind of managing the ebbs and flows of offensive production.

572
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Speaker 2: Whereas when he was with the Cardinals, it felt like,

573
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Speaker 2: man second half, like you started falling off the cliff

574
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Speaker 2: and they didn't find that plateau again.

575
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Speaker 3: But it felt like this this.

576
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Speaker 2: Year, this team has found that plateau and like you

577
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Speaker 2: look at you know, personnel.

578
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Speaker 3: I mean we talked about the offensive line a bunch.

579
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Speaker 2: I mean, Terry McLaurin, I love, but I mean like

580
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Speaker 2: they are Dami Brown has come alive, like they are

581
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Speaker 2: finding ways, and I think Jayden.

582
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Speaker 3: Is the catalyst there.

583
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Speaker 2: He is that good to where he is truly, you know,

584
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Speaker 2: the rising tide that is lifting all ships here in

585
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Speaker 2: this Washington Commander's franchise, and I think he deserves a

586
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Speaker 2: ton of credit for that beyond you know what his.

587
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Speaker 3: Special play is. I think it's I think it's inspired

588
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Speaker 3: for those guys. That's a tangible thing to me.

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Speaker 1: I went back and was just trying to go back

590
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Speaker 1: to the college stuff when he because it was just

591
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Speaker 1: I didn't have words for what he was doing, like

592
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Speaker 1: the way he was playing and the way he's played truthfully,

593
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 1: of just the poise, uh to go along with that,

594
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: like the ball placement, the accuracy he is processing. Like

595
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Speaker 1: to me, I think I tweet out i'd' understeen body

596
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: process that fast, that young, like he's got like some

597
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow type processing stuff, which I don't say that lightly,

598
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 1: which is incredible. And so I was going back through

599
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Speaker 1: and I'm like, it's just so weird. He's played so

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Speaker 1: much football in college. And we talked about that with

601
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Speaker 1: him and Bo Nicks both having great years because they

602
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 1: both played so much. But it wasn't like it wasn't

603
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:33,439
Speaker 1: like this just steady Eddie climb. It was okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: then that his his first year at LSU a little

605
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Speaker 1: bit better, and then all of a sudden just explodes

606
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Speaker 1: in his in his last year. And I was thinking

607
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Speaker 1: back and I don't know you know, because we're all

608
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Speaker 1: somewhat of similar age. Like when we used to have

609
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Speaker 1: to mow the lawn. We had an old lawnmower, and

610
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Speaker 1: you know you had to you had to pull it right,

611
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Speaker 1: so you got to pull that string and then so

612
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Speaker 1: you might have to pull it three or four times

613
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Speaker 1: it doesn't start, and then finally, like that fifth time

614
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Speaker 1: you pull it it starts. Works great. But I think

615
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 1: I was thinking of that as an analogy with these players

616
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,679
Speaker 1: because they don't get much chance to fail in the NFL.

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00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 1: We move on. They're done. They're not good enough. So

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00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: it's like, man, in college, playing all those snaps, all

619
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Speaker 1: those years in college, you got time to get the

620
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Speaker 1: lawnmower started, and once it starts, it's good. And it's like,

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Speaker 1: that's the value in guys staying and playing extra time

622
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 1: in college is that, man, Man, they figured out because

623
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Speaker 1: once you figured out, you're good. But it's hard to

624
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Speaker 1: figure it out at the NFL level. Man, that if

625
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 1: you haven't had time to do that. That's my point book.

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00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 5: No, I'm with you and the experience of being able

627
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 5: to go through those ups and downs, and we'll talk

628
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 5: about Jane Dames, but I think you always have to

629
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 5: include bo Nicks in that conversation because he's another one

630
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 5: who had all of that time at college. You find

631
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 5: his game, go through the ups and downs, and then

632
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 5: find his way to the other side. And we saw

633
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 5: the success that he was able to have as a rookie.

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Speaker 5: We've said this and read I think you've been on.

635
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 5: We said it like we kind of like our quarterbacks

636
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 5: to come into the league with some scuffs on them,

637
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 5: Like we don't want to bring new shoes that are

638
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 5: just completely polished and they don't have any I need

639
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 5: them scuffed up a little bit because it's going to

640
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 5: give me a chance to maybe get through the adversity

641
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,919
Speaker 5: in the first year a little quicker. And for Jade Daniels,

642
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 5: he was able to get through that lo that go

643
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 5: outside with his rears being hurt. But he got through

644
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 5: that period and he is being great when they needed

645
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:18,160
Speaker 5: him to be great.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and look, I think that again like his.

647
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Speaker 2: What we're talking about in being a player that elevates,

648
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 2: you know, you look at other rookies that have gone

649
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 2: to where he's taking this team to the championship. Brown,

650
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Speaker 2: I mean like they had dominant defenses and Washington's good

651
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 2: they're not.

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00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 1: They're those quarterbacks. Those quarterbacks on that list that we

653
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 1: have on our chat right now were not the driving

654
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: force of their team. They were not the lead actor.

655
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: They were supporting characters. And this is a totally different deal.

656
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 2: This is done like anything we've seen, truly, because none

657
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 2: of us would sit here and say, if you look

658
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 2: pound for pound, player for player on that Washington roster,

659
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 2: while they have played well together, that did not look

660
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 2: like an NFC Championship game roster.

661
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: No, just just to be fair, No, No, it's incredible.

662
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: And look you took down the number one seed on

663
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: the road and did it convincingly. Just and and again.

664
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Speaker 1: Part of the story of the week, Buck is turnovers.

665
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: You know, that's it's been the it's been the theme,

666
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 1: uh through a bunch of these games. You get the

667
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: turnover margin, I don't know, five to nothing. That seems

668
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: like that's gonna be problematic if you're like, when you

669
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: turn that, but do you do you? We talked about

670
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: this because it looks like they're both gonna get head

671
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: coaching jobs. Ben Johnson OC is gonna get one and

672
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: Glenn's gonna get one, and they're both fantastic coaches. Fantastic candidates.

673
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: But we had said on here that look, you might

674
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: think there's I'm not distracted at all. There's no issues here.

675
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: You the way that these these organizations and buildings work

676
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: like it is an obsession. They work long hours to

677
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: get ready each and every week. You can't tell me

678
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: that doesn't have an impact. Man, When you're having to

679
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 1: do interviews for you know, your your dream jobs, the

680
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: job you've coveted it since you were a kid. How

681
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: could you not be a little bit distracted on that stuff?

682
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you can't. You can't fully focus.

683
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 5: I don't care what you are because you're playing different

684
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 5: scenarios in your head. Who am I bringing with me?

685
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 5: What do I want? What am I looking for? You

686
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 5: have to have some knowledge of the other roster. I mean,

687
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 5: if you have multiple interviews three or four other rosters

688
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 5: and how you would build those teams, that's a lot

689
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 5: of brain space that's being occupied when you really need

690
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 5: to be focusing on the game plan. It's unfortunate that

691
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 5: they didn't play at their best, but it has to

692
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 5: play a small part and why maybe those teams on

693
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 5: both sides of the.

694
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 4: Ball didn't look the way they've looked the entire season.

695
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, by the way, I think rap sheet just was

696
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 2: talking about Aaron glenn Is interviewing for the second time

697
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 2: in person with the Jets, and then he's got the

698
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 2: Saints right after that.

699
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 1: Feels like, yeah, he's getting one of those he's getting

700
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,239
Speaker 1: one of those gigs and good friend, he's a good

701
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 1: football coach. But does this feel I don't want to

702
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 1: say window closing. I think that's a little early on

703
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: that one. But you also have your time when this

704
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 1: is your best shot, when you have home field advantage

705
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: all the way throughout, when you have continuity on your

706
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: coaching staff. I know the defense had been besieged with injury,

707
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: but man, that was still you know, this is a

708
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: This is.

709
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 4: That you got to be.

710
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: You needed to beat a rookie quarterback, and then you

711
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: wouldn't You would have been at home against a hobbled

712
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts for a chance to go to a Super Bowl.

713
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: I mean that it's hard to see them having a

714
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: better opportunity than the one that they had this year,

715
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: which you know sucks for the Alliance.

716
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can almost make the argument that you feel now,

717
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 2: look offensively, they've got a great young core and and

718
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 2: that's the kese in. You know, a young, young ish

719
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 2: quarterback in the prime of his career.

720
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 3: You feel pretty good about that.

721
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 2: But like you can almost make the argument that the

722
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 2: you know, you look at where the Rams are and

723
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 2: like they're feeling pretty good about that young group, especially

724
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,479
Speaker 2: on defense that they've got, that they're going to continue

725
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 2: to get better in terms of window, you know, being open.

726
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 3: The problem is, you know, how much longer are they

727
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 3: going to go with Stafford. I think it is obviously

728
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 3: the biggest difference there.

729
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say also Detroit has a bunch of

730
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: good players on for on rookie deal too. They haven't

731
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: had to pay yet, so they're still talented. You know,

732
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 1: they got to make sure they filled the right spots. Here.

733
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: What the coaches are getting ready to lose Buck Houston,

734
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: Kansas City. We've touched on it a little bit earlier,

735
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: but it's just it's a clean brand of football. Man.

736
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: It's not always the most aesthetically pleasing, but the defense.

737
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: This is a defensive team. And that's why I've said,

738
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: I this used to be an explosive offense with an

739
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: opportunistic defense. Now it's an explosive defense with an opportunistic offense.

740
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, and we can talk about the defense a sas

741
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 5: George gott Loftis and company really being able to get

742
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 5: after c. J. Stroud disrupt the rhythm dominated the game.

743
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 5: On that standpoint, Old coaches always talked about this. I'm

744
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 5: sure you got the we all played coming up where

745
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 5: the coach would say, hey, they're three phases in the

746
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 5: game for us to win, you got to win two

747
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 5: of them.

748
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 4: And the Kansas City Chiefs won two phases. They won defense,

749
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 4: and they won special teams.

750
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 5: As much as I want to talk about their defense

751
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 5: playing lights out, they won the game because of their

752
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,239
Speaker 5: special teams and what they were able to do three

753
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 5: yard kickoff return right out the gate. They then benefited

754
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 5: from a miss field goal, a miss pat they blocked

755
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 5: the field goal. I mean, all the things that Dave

756
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 5: Toe and his units do. They they win in the margins,

757
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 5: and we've seen this time and time again.

758
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 4: They understand what's required.

759
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 5: To win and they're willing to make those plays in

760
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 5: those areas to win the game. Hass off to the

761
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 5: Chiefs continue to do what they do win.

762
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

763
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 2: And it's still, though, feels like this is a team

764
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 2: that's vulnerable like this is a I mean, this is

765
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 2: a team. While as sound as they are, you know,

766
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 2: in some of those areas that we're talking about, the

767
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 2: simple areas like if the team on the other sideline

768
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 2: can also do those things, it feels like more often

769
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 2: than not, they're gonna have a chance.

770
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 3: To beat the Kansas City Chiefs.

771
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 2: The Houston Texans had every opportunity to beat the Kansas

772
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 2: City Chiefs. I mean, like, obviously, don't let up a

773
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 2: seventy five yard kick return on the opening kick and

774
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 2: special teams was a big reason why they were unable

775
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 2: to get it done. You know, miss field goals, I

776
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 2: get you know, I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna you know,

777
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 2: bash Kamy Fairbarn too much for missing a fifty five yarder,

778
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,879
Speaker 2: but extra point you know one that's a little lock

779
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 2: start block you got.

780
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 3: You gotta find I get it. The other stuff.

781
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 2: It's tough conditions, but it's tough on the other side too.

782
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 2: But ultimately, like this was not a game where the

783
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 2: Texans were all classed even very short handed. Je I

784
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 2: just I didn't I didn't see it that way with

785
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 2: the way this thing ended up.

786
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I it's just a The thing about

787
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: the playoffs is it always and I saw what the

788
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: Chargers doing their game against the Texans, is that your

789
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: warts have a way of appearing at the worst time.

790
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: And when I studied that Texans team getting ready for

791
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,399
Speaker 1: that first playoff game, man, I'm like, gosh, if they

792
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 1: get behind, they they are awful at communicating games, twists

793
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 1: and blitzes up front like they they get more. And

794
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: it was like, well, here we are, and Buck, I

795
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 1: don't I don't want to. I hate it when we

796
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,919
Speaker 1: do this, but I'm gonna do it anyway. So yes,

797
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: you blanket statement, blanket statement. Here we go, blanket statement.

798
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: How many times have we seen the Shanahan offense when

799
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: they get down and there's no illusion of run and

800
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: it's dropped back past, they're done it.

801
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 5: It's a big problem, and it's one of the things.

802
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 5: They always play from ahead. The offense is built to

803
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 5: play from ahead where they can dictate the terms, where

804
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 5: they can get you seduced by the run action and

805
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 5: then throw it down the field. We have seen that

806
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 5: time and time again, and when they are behind, they

807
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 5: don't have a true drop back component to the passing game.

808
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 4: And so not that it's a narrow path to victory

809
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 4: for them.

810
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 5: But the game plan in the game mode, the game

811
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 5: script can't go a rid because it's really hard for

812
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 5: them to climb their way back into it, just because

813
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 5: the playbook isn't built for them to be from behind.

814
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 4: So it's something that they have to talk about, something

815
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 4: they have to work on.

816
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 5: It's certainly something that's popped up not only in Houston

817
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 5: but with other teams to run iterations of this offense.

818
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 2: Guys, four of their eight sacks came in the final

819
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 2: four minutes of the game. You want to talk about closers, Yeah,

820
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 2: talk about the blitz being on CJ Stroud like that.

821
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 3: To your point, DJ not being able to stuff is

822
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:16,439
Speaker 3: coming front.

823
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, Obviously, credit credit to Bags for understanding and taking

824
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,760
Speaker 2: advantage of some of those weaknesses that you're talking about.

825
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 2: But CJ didn't have a chance on a couple of those,

826
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 2: like Justin Reids in the space mask like this, you know,

827
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 2: I mean it was that's there's no there's no winner

828
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 2: on that.

829
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's why it's also very important. And

830
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: we'll we'll get into tomorrow's episode, we'll start previewing the

831
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: the games going forward, but just one thing on that

832
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: is to beat the Kansas City Chiefs, I think you

833
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 1: have to get on them early and hang on. I

834
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 1: think that's that's the way to beat them. I don't

835
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: think you want to be in a trail position with

836
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: Spags and Chris Jones and all these different blitz packages

837
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 1: they're gonna throw at you. And Carl Loftus has really

838
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: started to merge and be a really good player. So

839
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 1: Kansas City they might just ugly their way to a

840
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: you know, fourth super Bowl here. I mean, that's that's

841
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: what they're doing. Man, there's something to be said for it.

842
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: I always just come back to Bucky's favorite line, you know,

843
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 1: winners win. I mean that's they just find a way

844
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: to get to the winner circle. Yeah, that's again it's

845
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: crazy to do it. All right, Well, this is fun

846
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: looking back on these ball games. We have another episode

847
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: coming up tomorrow where we will look ahead at the

848
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 1: conference championship games. I want to also real quick before

849
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: we get out of here, as we went along on this,

850
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 1: uh just a quick give me thirty seconds on how

851
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 1: in the world Notre Dame shocks the world tonight.

852
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 2: Rtt go ahead, Well, they don't they don't allow Ohio

853
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 2: State's defensive line to wreck shop like they've been doing throughout.

854
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,240
Speaker 3: The entire college Football Playoff.

855
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 2: Like I know, we look at you know, Jeremiah Smith

856
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 2: and Will Howard and Traveon Henderson. But to me, it's

857
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 2: j T Twee Molollow, it's Jack Sawyer, it's Ty Leek,

858
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 2: it's Ty Williams, that whole crew. If they are the

859
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 2: dominant position group in this game, Ohio State wins going

860
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 2: out because that means Jeremiah loves not run the ball

861
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 2: all over the place and Riley Leonard's getting pressured and

862
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 2: sacked and hit and that's going to be a recipe

863
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 2: for disaster. So to me, it's about a lot of

864
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 2: State's defensive line up front, which has been absolutely dominant

865
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 2: throughout the course of these last three games.

866
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 5: To them. Yeah, for me, I may be the long

867
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 5: whoopingness because I actually like Notre Dame chances of pulling

868
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 5: this off. And I think the experience that they've had

869
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 5: in playing Notre Dame playing Ohio State before. I remember

870
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Speaker 5: they played Marvin Harrison junior and they were one of

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Speaker 5: the few teams at the time they played man demand

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Speaker 5: against Ohio State. I don't believe they're going to fear

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Speaker 5: Ohio State like some teams do. I think they're gonna

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Speaker 5: match up, They're gonna line up, and they're gonna try

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Speaker 5: and make this a Will Howard game. They're going to

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Speaker 5: dare the quarterback to make enough big plays to win,

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Speaker 5: and if Notre Dame is able to just cobble together

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Speaker 5: a similns of offense where they can control the game

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Speaker 5: and just get it to the fourth quarter, I feel

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Speaker 5: pretty confident that they're gonna be able to lock up

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Speaker 5: and play on the outside.

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Speaker 4: I'm pretty confident.

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Speaker 1: How many carries if Notre Dame wins the ballgame? How

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Speaker 1: many carries for Riley Leonard in this ball game book?

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Speaker 4: Oh, I think we used them like a like this

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Speaker 4: is a.

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Speaker 1: This is a tip. I was gonna say twelve to fifteen.

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Speaker 5: Oh, this is this is uh and we've seen this

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Speaker 5: because it was funny. He is going to take the

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Speaker 5: direct snap, and he's going to power in iso and

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Speaker 5: all those things. I think you need no stone unturned. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I think fifteen plus is what we're shooting for.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think I think they got to turn Will

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Speaker 1: Howard over to win the ball game. Though, I think

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Speaker 1: they've got to turn him over a couple of times,

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Speaker 1: and maybe that's what they do. Maybe they just go

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Speaker 1: nose to nose, lock him up and uh and they

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Speaker 1: make play.

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Speaker 4: Either they're gonna blow us out, but we're gonna win it.

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Speaker 4: But like playing zone and letting will Howard have whatever

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Speaker 4: he wants, that's not the recipe, No risky, no biscuits.

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Speaker 1: That was the line. I think it was I remember

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Speaker 1: who did the report, but it was maybe it was

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Speaker 1: Jay Glazer in the pregame, but he was talking about

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Speaker 1: talking to Dan Quinn and he's like, how do you

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Speaker 1: feel about today? And he's like, we're going to take

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Speaker 1: our swings. I'll tell you that much. I was like, okay,

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Speaker 1: and they did. They were going for it on four

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Speaker 1: downs and just like there is no fear in this ojo.

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Speaker 1: We might lose, but we aren't going in there to

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Speaker 1: be towed and scared. It's all right, looking forward to

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Speaker 1: that ballgame. We'll recap that later on a week as well.

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Speaker 1: That's going to do it for I appreciate you guys

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Speaker 1: hanging on with us, See you next time. Right here,

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Speaker 1: onto the sticks,