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Speaker 1: Before listening, ask a doctor if your heart is healthy

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Speaker 1: enough for Dallas Cowboys football. He's Hanging with the Boys,

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Speaker 1: broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star

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Speaker 1: in Frisco. Now your host, Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, and

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Speaker 1: Shannon Gross. Oh he don't even have the buzzer in him.

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Speaker 1: Well we Kurt Douglas, we screwed up yesterday. Look at him,

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Speaker 1: gut on heels and backwards. Yeah, it's happy birthday. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: behind me. We screwed up yesterday. Typical Hanging with the

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Speaker 1: Boys fashion. It was someone on this show's birthday and

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Speaker 1: we didn't even know it. Kurt, was it your birthday?

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Speaker 1: Was not what my birthday? Douglas? Was it your birthday? Nope?

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Speaker 1: Not me? Dev only one mind? Din't that? Only happy birthday?

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Speaker 1: One person? Happy birthday, Daniel Newton, happy birthday? Name birthday?

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Speaker 1: Than we blew it. We found out last night. Now

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Speaker 1: you didn't blow it, but I mean now I'm good man,

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Speaker 1: I'm do you have a good one? Oh man, I

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Speaker 1: had a great one. I'm gonna tell you how this

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Speaker 1: thing went. Uh, what's yesterday? The day before now, I

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Speaker 1: was walking down the hall, you know, mixa, Hey, man,

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Speaker 1: how would you like uh to you know, we tried

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Speaker 1: missus Jones uh to do the you know, to do

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Speaker 1: the show. He s, how would you like to do

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Speaker 1: the show tomorrow night? I'm like, what the show tomorrow night.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, yeah, I do the show. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: thought about it. Said, oh man, my birthday tomorrow. I said, nah,

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Speaker 1: you know what I say. I did economics on this deal,

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Speaker 1: little extra birthday. Let me call my wife. I said,

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Speaker 1: let me know as soon as miss Charlotte back out.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, give me a call. Well,

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Speaker 1: he had already called my wife, but I got home.

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Speaker 1: My wife said, uh, did Mickey talk to you about

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Speaker 1: doing this show. I'm like, yeah, he already called you.

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Speaker 1: She said I knew you was going back out on

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Speaker 1: the because she was gonna take me to three Forks

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Speaker 1: for yeah. Nice for a deal. And I'm like, okay, baby,

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Speaker 1: you get to save money. You know, I'll take you

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Speaker 1: out on my birthday and we eat up at the

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Speaker 1: Big Boy Club and you get and you get an

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Speaker 1: envelope for cash. Yeah your birthday. So man, I had

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Speaker 1: me some fun last night. Many Club. Yeah. I was

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Speaker 1: at the Cowboys Club. Probably to hang out with Mickey

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Speaker 1: for your birthday. How exciting is that? Six Bill Jones too,

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Speaker 1: And that was the real treat right there. Bill, Well,

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Speaker 1: we got you a couple of gifts. Nate Douglas, why

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Speaker 1: don't you, Why don't you come on in here for

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Speaker 1: a minute. You ain't doing nothing back there anyway, Come

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Speaker 1: on in the studio, boy, all right? Yeah, so man,

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Speaker 1: I don't need a coming man. What we got you?

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Speaker 1: Since you're so infatuated with that Zeke bubble head, we

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Speaker 1: got you your very own bubble head. Man. You can

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Speaker 1: play with that, not only up here, but at home.

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Speaker 1: You got your twin here, Douglas. Put this on Nate

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Speaker 1: birthday boy button. Make him put a tier on him too.

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Speaker 1: We're doing this whole show. Get you a tier or two, Douglas.

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Speaker 1: I bought these these things. I bought these things and

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Speaker 1: they have no damn they have no buzzering. So that's

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Speaker 1: pretty that's pretty worthless. So wow, so we got you another.

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Speaker 1: I ain't nah. I put on everything something wow. Wow,

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Speaker 1: got you two dozen wow oatmeal, chocolate oatmeal raising and

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Speaker 1: then chocolate chip cookies. Wow. I appreciate that. Man. Now

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Speaker 1: you're gonna make me have the go home. Got that.

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Speaker 1: There's that. Thank you, You're welcome, You're we went on

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Speaker 1: the chief on this show because the bobble head was free,

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Speaker 1: and then so were the cookies. But oh and then

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Speaker 1: we got milk. That's for you all. So we're gonna eat.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna eat birthday cookies on the show. Douglas, how

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Speaker 1: are you? I'm good? You like every time I'm on

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Speaker 1: the show. I have the Cosby sweater. You do know?

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's because that's all you wear to work? You

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Speaker 1: want chocolate milk or white milk, white milk? There you go, Kurt,

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Speaker 1: what do you want? Chocolate chocolate? Okay's chocolate chip cookies? Right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: those are chocolate chip. Those are oatmeal chocolate. Give me

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Speaker 1: a chocolate chip. While we're getting the cookies out, Kurt

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Speaker 1: would like to share some information about the birthday boy.

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Speaker 1: Take it away, thank you, sir. All right, mister Nate Zeke,

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Speaker 1: would you like, oh, no, okay, no, I'm good, Nate.

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Speaker 1: Have you not seen my ass? I've been in Mexico

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Speaker 1: early years of Nate Newton, a young lad growing up

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Speaker 1: went to Jones High School where, yes, sir, he was

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Speaker 1: is that right? Yeah? Well I played fullback my senior years.

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Speaker 1: the show, still made all my honors as a defensive lineman.

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Speaker 1: this show still do? Do what? Go both ways? Okay,

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Speaker 1: Garry Old Kurt, So you decided to stay close to home,

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Speaker 1: go to Florida. But what other offers did you have yet?

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Speaker 1: Some I had committed along with Jim Jeff co to

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Speaker 1: I was like, anyway, this is this is better than Florida. Wow,

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Speaker 1: I changed. How close was at the home? Uh four hours?

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Speaker 1: a star, superstar you said before you loved the USFL.

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Speaker 1: Oh love the USFL. Man almost better in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: When I went to the NFL, he was a free agent.

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Speaker 1: As Washington. You know, several teams came Tampa Bay worked

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Speaker 1: Why are you moving? Looks like mister Michael Irvans in

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Speaker 1: the house. Oh we have a surprise. I have a

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Speaker 1: surprise in the studio. Wow, jump on that microphone. How

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Speaker 1: old are you now, big fellow, I'm fifty six. Mit, Look,

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Speaker 1: come in. Let man, happy birthday to my boy. What's

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Speaker 1: your favorite story? I don't do it. Ain't has everything?

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Speaker 1: Tell you so all that seriousness, guys all don't try

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Speaker 1: to offer me something good right now. So so I

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Speaker 1: don't go in hard right now. Honestly, man, they's the

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Speaker 1: best teammate in the world. I'm gonna tell you, and

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Speaker 1: what attitude you got going, you're going to get at

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Speaker 1: a different attitude. Nate's going to put you there. Don't

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Speaker 1: a bad attitude. Kevin is raining outside. Nate's gonna get

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Speaker 1: big fall right here, cranks it up early. Wow. So

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Speaker 1: to do what now? I'm coming out to sit down

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Speaker 1: with Dak right now, you know and talk about Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: for the network and everybody you know, for the network. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thank god, thank calling you man that called me. I said,

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Speaker 1: with that. We do it at the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: I'm not whole fame, but he got a Sun place

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Speaker 1: comes University of Miami, tight end. Yeah, Michael wife, lovely wife.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. This first starting against Clemson. Man, I was

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Speaker 1: I will do that man. Y'all stay up, guys, all right,

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Speaker 1: NFL network. Yeah, thank you, Scott, Thank you. That was nice. Scott.

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Speaker 1: All right. Oh man, I keep going, Kurt, keep going,

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Speaker 1: all right? Top that there? So okay? Then you joined

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Speaker 1: around here called Coppelle Delhi. Yeah, it actually has a

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Speaker 1: sandwich to sandwiches, two sandwiches. Yeah, how that I created? Uh,

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Speaker 1: they made the Stubbs for Daniel Stubbs. And then I said, man,

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Speaker 1: you made a sandwich for Daniel Stubbs, and I eat more,

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Speaker 1: you know, even though Stubbs the first got to stop

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Speaker 1: going now like I come in here every every day

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Speaker 1: you know, bruck for sandwich, and I think, uh, kind

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Speaker 1: It's a good spot too. Can ever have it anymore?

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Speaker 1: You get over there, Ma, I can't eat it all. Man,

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Speaker 1: y'all got these cookies in front of me. Man, but

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Speaker 1: I already had a salace, so I'm gonna be like, wow, yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: it's all you know what? Man, Uh, well, I appreciate this. Man.

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Speaker 1: I ain't had these many gifts in a while. Hey,

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Speaker 1: it ain't. It ain't much. We didn't spend no money

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Speaker 1: on bro. I looked at you. I can tell what

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Speaker 1: you wear every day belong to somebody else. Keep going, Kurt,

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Speaker 1: Let's keep it going all right. Ninety two kind of

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Speaker 1: got here, he said, Nate, we're gonna put the best

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Speaker 1: So you think you think Mike kind of changed the

420
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Speaker 1: coach O man easily. Man. But and see, but what

421
00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 1: made him so unique was Losing was not what he

422
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 1: was built to do. Losing was not what he was

423
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 1: built to do. He knew it was success coming with winning.

424
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 1: I used to see him after game. Man, We was

425
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 1: in Texas Stadium, and he he was just over the

426
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 1: crime at the game. Somebody just knowledged he was just

427
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 1: over the crime. I said, well, I wanted to say, Mike, well,

428
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 1: what's wrong. I'm thinking his mom or something something. Man,

429
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 1: what's that? What happened? And we losing? Man? What in

430
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,919
Speaker 1: the world? You know? He cussing? And I told him,

431
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 1: I said, Mike, I said, brother, let me share something

432
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 1: with you. I said, too, we get better as an

433
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 1: offensive line, do we get better? Do we get a

434
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 1: thousand yard running back and a better quarterback? Troy gets better?

435
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,959
Speaker 1: This is us? You know. He looked at me. Man,

436
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,719
Speaker 1: something got to change. Man, Oh my god. He cussing,

437
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,719
Speaker 1: and I was like, all right, mam, we'll clean your

438
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 1: nose and you know, and uh loring behole, here comes Jimmy.

439
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:05,919
Speaker 1: Yeah and uh and Mike. Mike was excited. Mike like, man,

440
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 1: it's Beenna change Jimmy gonna change and played him. Yeah,

441
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 1: you know, he played with him at um, Jimmy gonna

442
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 1: change this. He cussing. Son of was all these service.

443
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he gave Jimmy a list of

444
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: guys that was not should not be on this to you,

445
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 1: like he put my name, you know, so you know,

446
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 1: and then we and then we you know, we already

447
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: had Troy, I know, we got Troy outter Mike, and

448
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 1: then we got im It you know, and all of

449
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: these had guys had one thing that that would consistent.

450
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 1: They may have had different character traits for us, how

451
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:51,479
Speaker 1: they acted, uh attitudes. Mike was brass, Troy was kind of, uh,

452
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 1: easy going, kind of about doing his business. Immitt kind

453
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 1: of was in between that, you know, he wasn't never

454
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 1: out out like we were, you know, and craziness. But

455
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: they all had one thing that you saw. They were

456
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:10,120
Speaker 1: there was workers and and they were about and they

457
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: were about team. You know in it Like, man, y'all

458
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: got a block. I mean, if they ain't no holes,

459
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: I don't you know, I can't do nothing, you know,

460
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 1: I'm serious. They they was well aware of what needed

461
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: to be done, and they was always like one step

462
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 1: ahead of being the police people that you needed them

463
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 1: to be. And and then but we wasn't gonna win

464
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: with just those guys. The person that turned this team

465
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: around for us and made us win was Charles Haley.

466
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 1: Charles Haley took us to another level. Our defense was okay.

467
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 1: But when Charles got here, you know that wore daddy.

468
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: Could you see that right away? Yeah, because he walked

469
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 1: in the locker room. I've told y'all this before. Where

470
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: he walked in the locker room, was just breaking down

471
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: every offensive, telling him an their strength and their weaknesses.

472
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 1: Charles can play crazy, and maybe he is a little crazy,

473
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: but he knew, he knew us, and he knew because

474
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 1: we we we were trying to build something. And but

475
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: when he came, I knew what it meant, you know,

476
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: and I knew what it meant when we had to

477
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 1: play Lawrence Taylor. And when I first got here, Lawrence

478
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 1: Taylor was the man you know we played Phil Phil parts.

479
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 1: Derek knew he was the man that's we had to

480
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: go against. But you could see Lawrence Taylor. I played

481
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: a little bit against Lawrence Taylor, and I knew how

482
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: we used to gear things towards him wherever he went

483
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: and so but we kind of lost that over the years.

484
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: But when Charles came, I saw it from a different

485
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: angle where teams were doing this for him. You know,

486
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: like you had to know where Charles was, what's the city?

487
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 1: You had to play good situation of football, because Charles

488
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 1: can hurt you, I mean versus the run. He was

489
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: slick enough and savvy enough to beat you on the run,

490
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: but he was definitely gonna gonna coby you up in

491
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: the past. I mean he was. He was a beast.

492
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: He was a beast man. Well, Nate, happy birthday man.

493
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: We could not and would not even attempt to do

494
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: this show without you. You make this show. You make

495
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:32,239
Speaker 1: this show fun. I enjoy spending an hour in here

496
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: every day and we just wanted to say thanks. So

497
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: you're gonna try to make me fat all over again? Yes, absolutely, yeah,

498
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 1: I appreciate the moatmeal cook is now the chatman Chip

499
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: notice ain't off of this or get those away and

500
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: offer them. Well, we're gonna take a break, but before

501
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 1: we do, let's let's do something. Douglas, tell me if

502
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,719
Speaker 1: we can do this or not. Okay, let's take calls.

503
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: But the only thing the caller is allowed to do

504
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: is who they are, where they're from, and wish Nate

505
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: a happy birthday. That's no question. We're gonna continue with

506
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: our normal show. We're gonna break down the Cowboys defense

507
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 1: against Seattle's offense. Yeah, we have a caller. We're gonna

508
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: stop down the show. Let them say who they are,

509
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: where they're from, Wish Nate a happy birthday, buy beyond

510
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: your merry way, continue the show until we get another caller.

511
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: Can we do that? Douglas? Oh my god, I don't know.

512
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a break, y'all. Call us two

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Speaker 1: one four eight seven two twenty one O two and

514
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: wish Nate a happy birthday. That's all you got you,

515
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Speaker 1: no questions. Just tell Nate happy birthday two one four

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Speaker 1: eight seven two twenty one O two and we'll be

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556
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Speaker 1: Back to hanging with the boys. We are back hanging

557
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: with the boys. Scott in here, gots in here, readjusting

558
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 1: our phrase up. Thanks for bringing Michael by Scott that

559
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: was awesome, man, Scott, big time man. That's the man.

560
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 1: We couldn't see your happy birthdays on LORI okay, okay, okay,

561
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: we are celebrating the life and the birthday. I had

562
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: one more question for name Nate. What's that? Man? What's that?

563
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: I didn't realize. I didn't know this. I didn't realize.

564
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: Your brother Tim played in the NFL for ye Yeah,

565
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: what a career. Yeah, man, he played nine years. Best

566
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 1: his hard and uh they started out, we played. He

567
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: went drafted by the Minnesota Vikings, and they used to

568
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: whoop us man and and and I was he never

569
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: chipped then I was bringing in about sixty seventy family

570
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: members and he never chipped in if you're listening, Yeah,

571
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: and and uh he was a defensive tackle shop yeah.

572
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: And so after the game he was staying. He was

573
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: stay in town, right, yeah, in front of everybody. Yeah,

574
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,479
Speaker 1: you know, we had a whoop y'all up a little bit.

575
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: I don't know, Okay, no problem. Four or five years

576
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: later we're super bowling. So I ain't I ain't never

577
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 1: do it in front of the family. But what that said,

578
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 1: boy to him, I don't know if you ever felt this, man,

579
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: but this is a private thing to get Super Bowl, right.

580
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,399
Speaker 1: Did you ever go head to head with him? Yeah? Yeah,

581
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 1: he played defensive time. You know, so I used to

582
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: punch them ribs. Yeah, I used to punch the rib steps.

583
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 1: I was like, hey man, I'm gonna let brother know

584
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tend to rise man the ribs. It's like

585
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 1: he was about two years younger. Yeah, he led him growing. Man.

586
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 1: He was the best athlete. Man. He my brother could

587
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: play some basketball. Man. He was like west Unseale. You

588
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: may not remember West, but Kirt remember West Unset. He

589
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: was like West Unsettings. He wasn't tall, but he could rebound,

590
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 1: he could shoot, he could play. He I mean he

591
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 1: could ball. He was he He was a great athlete.

592
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 1: He played and in high school. In junior high he

593
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 1: played tight end, and eventually they moved him to UH.

594
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: The tailback. Really my brothers a tailback. And then he

595
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: went to UH. When he came to Jones Highway, I

596
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,760
Speaker 1: was he played tight end and he was a beast

597
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: and he played UH defensive tack. He was a beast.

598
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: And then his senior year he moved as junior he

599
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 1: moved to linebacker. So he played linebacker and then he

600
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 1: became an All American his senior year at linebacker. Then

601
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: he went the University of Florida and uh became uh

602
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: he was he was too big to play linebacker there,

603
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: and they moved him to nose guard and he became

604
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: All SEC at nose guard wo SEC, second team All American. Yeah,

605
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 1: that's some jeans and that fan. Man. My brother, My

606
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 1: brother was a beast man. He was a beast I mean,

607
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 1: he played anywhere besides Minnesota. He played ken sit in

608
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay. I think, yeah, man, he was. He was

609
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 1: a beast man. Young timmy new boy, Eric, North Carolina,

610
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 1: what's up? What's up? Y'all? Just want to wish the

611
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 1: world champion Nate Newton. It got it brings all the

612
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: life to the show, not all the life, not taking

613
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: away for you guys, not taking them from Zeken taking

614
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: them away from men. The good that comes away late. Man.

615
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: Just want to wish your happy birthday. Man. Keep doing

616
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: what you're doing. Man, you're aspation to all of us.

617
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: Say hello to Zeke. Hey, hey, Zeke. All right, thanks Eric,

618
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: we'll talk to you tomorrow. Thank you, man. All right,

619
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 1: call us and wish Nate a happy birthday. Two, one, eight, seven,

620
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: twenty one. You know we got to do this for

621
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 1: everybody's show. So Kurt, don't let his birthday pass. And

622
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: please don't let his birthday. Oh mine's already done. On

623
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: the birthday. We're gonna let passes the guy we don't

624
00:36:53,640 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: see right now, Douglas, it's lonely under the bus. You

625
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 1: can't let you pass your birthday. You don't need to know, dude. Hey,

626
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 1: we need to know everybody's birthday. We'venna do. Hey, I

627
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: don't have well, man, you're gonna be in trouble. Kirker.

628
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: What free stuff can we right? I already gave it

629
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Speaker 1: all the way he gets on the free stuff. You

630
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: know what? Remind me after the show, and I'm gonna

631
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: bag all this back up put him. We'll bring it

632
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: back step. I'm gonna go get some of these things

633
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 1: that actually make noise. Kate, Kate, text me and let

634
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 1: me know what Kirk's birthday is. I'll get your game

635
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 1: program for your birthday. Yeah, yeah, I think I know

636
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 1: a guy. Star Josh and Florida. What's up? Not much, man,

637
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: Just want to say happy birthday to the super Bowl champion. Man,

638
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 1: Thank you, bro? You say hello to Zeke man. Ze

639
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,439
Speaker 1: right here, man, Zeke ze Man, what's up, dude? Little?

640
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: That was Bible Heads. Thanks for the call, Josh, thanks

641
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 1: for listening. Man. We love you guys. Yeah, hey man,

642
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: let me say this man. Uh, Sir Douglas pulled up

643
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: the Zeke interview and I don't know if we put

644
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 1: it on tape and not. I really don't care. You know,

645
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 1: the media man is there? No? I thought a good

646
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 1: media person I always thought was shouldn't you be a

647
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 1: little objective and how you handle things? You don't have

648
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: to be that today. How's that? Well, it kind of

649
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 1: depends on I mean, who you're working for. Yeah. What

650
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: I'm saying is, was Zeke ever charged with anything? Was

651
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: he ever? No? Well, I mean even when the NFL

652
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 1: suspended him, it was on vague reports, right yeah, and

653
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: they didn't I think in the end, technically they didn't

654
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: suspend him for that incident. It was for just the

655
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: Olden duct Yeah, okay when it when it first started,

656
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: it was like conduct unbecoming of the NFL. And then

657
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:04,439
Speaker 1: he got ugly. They narrowed it down too, but still

658
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: on vague evidence. I'm not saying what Zeke did or

659
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 1: didn't do. But here here, he's been gone. He paid

660
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 1: the price, whether he did or not, he paid the price.

661
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: And he came back and and I'm listening to our media,

662
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: our local media, and nothing is never ever established wrong

663
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,879
Speaker 1: or right. And you attack him like he did something wrong. Yeah,

664
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: let's it's only it's only a minute sixteen. Let's listen

665
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: to I gotta pull it up right here. But first

666
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,399
Speaker 1: Q and Jersey City Q. Come on, man, Jersey City,

667
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: Mob City? What's up? Heye? Happy birthday? Thank you many Hey,

668
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 1: say hello to Zeke Man he's back. Hey little Zeck,

669
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: what's up? Hey? Big sixty one for the ring Ring

670
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 1: of Varna. Man, Hey, man, you know what, brother, I

671
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: fall over? I don't know, man, they mayn't do that.

672
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: The nake that may fall over. You know what. We

673
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: need to start that campaign on this ship capaign. Thank you,

674
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: Thank you, appreciate the call. Yeah, let's start that campaign, Kurt, Yeah,

675
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: shaking the trees. Well, keep me man. Is I'm not

676
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: saying that you don't ask questions. Yeah, that's the only way.

677
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: That's what makes you a reporter. That's but if he

678
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 1: if if he's trying to establish some rapport with you,

679
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 1: and then you know, hey, you know, uh Zugla said

680
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: something that was good that Mickey told him. It's right,

681
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 1: even even if he don't want to talk about it. Right,

682
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 1: then try to soften him up and go a different direction,

683
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,399
Speaker 1: trying to circle back round because there's maybe some people

684
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: there that that need other stories. And he then make

685
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,439
Speaker 1: Zeke shut it down. He made him shut it down.

686
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 1: So the guy that may have wanted another story, yeah, yeah, here,

687
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 1: here it is. It's it's a minute sixteen. I was

688
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: actually gonna get you guys opinions on this today, but

689
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: we go here. It is through this process, how much

690
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: of you grown and how much you learn. Um, I'm

691
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 1: not really gonna talk about it. It's behind me. I'm

692
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 1: just trying to start a new page, a new chapter,

693
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: and you know, I just want to I'm gonna think,

694
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 1: you know, there's Cowboys Organization for being behind me. Thinks

695
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: for my family and my team and my friends for

696
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: just supporting me through the time. And you know, especially

697
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: to the Cowboys fans who've stuck by me through this

698
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: tough time and uh having all faith in me. But

699
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not talking about it anymore. It's gonna

700
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: be a last time to hear me speak about it,

701
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: so please don't even ask me about it. Reception it

702
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: was great, you know, the energy was high. I missed

703
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 1: all the guys, they missed me, and we're excited to

704
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 1: continue the season. Ok, you're not gonna talk about the project.

705
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: I keep talking about what you get to lasting? No,

706
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 1: what about the documentary and what methage? Do you want

707
00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 1: to just watching? You tell me the message that I

708
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: don't knowing. I'm ready to talk about the Seattle Seahawks.

709
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: I'm ready to talk about the Dallas Cowboys. I'm not

710
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 1: speaking on anymore. You don't want to talk about all.

711
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: I'm done. Thank you for That's it. See, I'm gonna

712
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:26,479
Speaker 1: tell you something. You know, if you've done something, I'm

713
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: first believed. When you've done something, you got to speak

714
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: up now, you you that's when I turned into a

715
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 1: media guy. If you've been proving of done something wrong.

716
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 1: But from day one, this has all been an ugly

717
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: situation for that young lady, in an ugly situation for Zeke.

718
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 1: And it's no, it's never gonna be final. It's final

719
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 1: for Zeke because he had to do six six weeks

720
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: his final for this team. Because he had to do

721
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: six weeks. The young lady, I can't speak for her.

722
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: I don't know her and I don't know the situation.

723
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 1: But our media sometimes has to understand that if I

724
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: was a player and I was in that position where

725
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 1: that where I hadn't had none of been proven that

726
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 1: I've done wrong. I'll tell you how he feels. He's better,

727
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 1: he's mad, he's upset, has cost him valuable time, money,

728
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 1: and most of all, how people think about him. So

729
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: how do you really think he feels? Well, let me

730
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: come at this from the other direction here, one, I

731
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: think the media has to ask him some of those questions.

732
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 1: I mean, that's if they're not doing their job if

733
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: they bring that up. Um, And I've also kind of

734
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: been that He's obviously been through a tough time and

735
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: of his own doing to some degree. I think a

736
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: lot of these guys make it worse for themselves by

737
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 1: not talking. It just keeps talking about what what can

738
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 1: he tell you? Though? Well, there were some questions in

739
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 1: there that like like what what I've done at what

740
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 1: I've done at Carbo, where you can see when you

741
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,760
Speaker 1: when you have already been victor, when you have already

742
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 1: been deemed guilty. See, maybe I'm going at it from

743
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: the very first question. I can't get past the very

744
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: first question is what did you learn from this? Well?

745
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: I learned that if I go out, I got to

746
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 1: take a bodyguard. I learned that I can't go to

747
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 1: no clubs. You know. I learned that I bet not

748
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: take a drink. I learned that what you get to do,

749
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 1: I bet not do. That's what Maybe I'm overstating, or

750
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: maybe I'm being ignorant about it, but that's what I've learned.

751
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: Is Okay, Now, since I make a million dollars a

752
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 1: year and you only make seventy five thousand, you get

753
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: to do all of these things. And I don't. You

754
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: got two kids, I don't have no kids. But yet

755
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: I got to raise your kids. But I don't have

756
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 1: no kids, right, So what's my responsibility? My responsibilities to myself. Yeah,

757
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: but again coming from the other angle, I think if

758
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: he had answered, you know, if he'd come out and

759
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: said and talked about a little bit and said, you know, yes,

760
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 1: I did learn some things. I want to be better,

761
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this whatever, that just helps his image.

762
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: I Mean, people want to see what's going on. And

763
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 1: yes he is in on the time of Tale. It

764
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 1: was in an unfair position. Yeah, on the time ma

765
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: tale though, right, I thought his first his first answer

766
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 1: was pretty much did that did well? The first answer

767
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: it did? I think Mike Fisher asked him the first

768
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 1: thing he did, and he I don't know how long

769
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 1: that sound by it was. It seemed like it was

770
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: about twenty thirty seconds. And he was very nice about

771
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 1: it as tone of voice. Yeah, and but and it

772
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: seemed like and like and what and Nate mentioned what

773
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: we were talking about earlier, and I and I was

774
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 1: basically just passing on to Nate what Mickey had mentioned

775
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: to me, which is which makes it wasn't a very

776
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 1: smart way to do the interview, which is you, you know,

777
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: if he if he is not wanting to talk about something,

778
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: then then go on to other topics for a while,

779
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 1: then come back around and schaef He Mike, if you

780
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 1: might be able to come at him a little a

781
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: little better. Here here's what I wish would happen. It's

782
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: funny because me and Derek actually talked about this right

783
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: before we went on the show after lunch. Is all

784
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 1: these guys that are in the media, they got into

785
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 1: sports because they like sports. They enjoy sports, they enjoy

786
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 1: their job. They like this atmosphere, they like being around

787
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: the guys. They like the cowboy they yeah, they but

788
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 1: they want to genuinely like these players. They want to

789
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,760
Speaker 1: be friends with them. They don't. They don't enjoy writing

790
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: bad articles about them. They liked this atmosphere. I would

791
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 1: like for the players to realize, hey, this is their job.

792
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: Part of the reason why we make money is because

793
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: of the fans. That's really the only It's a give

794
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 1: and take on both sides. It is. But I would

795
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 1: like to see the players go, hey, here's the deal.

796
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 1: Mike's off, off the record, here's the way. Here's how

797
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: I feel about it. Yeah, it's never is, but I

798
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: wish they were. I wish they would realize, hey, we

799
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: can have a sustainable relationship off the record and on

800
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: the red. Coach does that. He does the walk off

801
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 1: and sometimes he'll tell you something to give you some insight.

802
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: This is why I answered the question this way, Mike's off,

803
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: off the record, here's the deal. I would love for

804
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 1: a player, just one time to go, hey, guys, we

805
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: used to do that. Yeah, we used to do that

806
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:22,320
Speaker 1: with Galloway, even Fisher used to be. We used to

807
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 1: do that and it made your relationship a lot better.

808
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 1: With what happened was all of a sudden, the crunch

809
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 1: of lack of nobody buys newspapers in the moment nobody does.

810
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 1: Is everything has went here that first to get it

811
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: at that integrity that you all used to have. Me,

812
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: I'm saying you all me too, that we used to

813
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: have for those walk offs went away because you stopped

814
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 1: burning the players. Now players don't trust you, don't want

815
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:57,919
Speaker 1: to deal with you, and now it is what it is. Yeah.

816
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: So you know, I'm watching Darren Woodson on first take

817
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 1: and Stephen ag just went off and his partner and

818
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 1: had Darren Woodson his partner another guy and Woody like

819
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 1: you can see in Woody faith Like, wow, how do

820
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: I offend that? Because Stephen a loud, but he's smart,

821
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 1: he's he's talking about Yeah, yeah, he should have handled

822
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 1: it different. He dismissive and and so that's what made

823
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: me really run. So let me hit this interview because Zeke,

824
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: see this is what I know. Zeke has never seemed

825
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: to dismiss or blow people off. So when I hear

826
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: Stephen a saying that, like, hold on, that ain't the

827
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,839
Speaker 1: Zeke I know, arrogant blow people off. So I had

828
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 1: to come. I said, hey, man, I called a man

829
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 1: I was driving earlier to day round eleven because say, yo, ay,

830
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 1: sir Douglas mean do you had to cut of Zeke

831
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,320
Speaker 1: because I wanted to hear this up close on the

832
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: high technology stuff like he And I'm like, okay, that

833
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 1: answered my question, but it put me on the It

834
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 1: put me on the defense, whereas before I could I

835
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 1: couldna give anything objective because I've been on both sides

836
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: where I've done rown the young ladies and where I've

837
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: tried to be good the young ladies. So I've been

838
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 1: on both sides. So I'm I'm an objective So that's

839
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 1: why you kind of made me mad. I'm like you,

840
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 1: you you misjudges do from thousand miles away. You're saying

841
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 1: something and then when I hear Fishers do what he do,

842
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: which I know who his contact used to be and

843
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,280
Speaker 1: for off the record stuff and why things are happening.

844
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 1: But now everybody wants to be let me be the

845
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 1: first to ask this question, yeah you know, and let

846
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:37,760
Speaker 1: me be persistent so if I can get a buddy

847
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 1: over here, it's twenty guys a gals sitting there trying

848
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 1: to get an interview. Well, me and you don't got together. Okay,

849
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw this gonna and so now I run

850
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 1: him off. But now what about the other eighteen guys

851
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 1: and gals that need other stories? Yea, So now they

852
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:56,240
Speaker 1: got to run behind a guy that's already mad, already upset,

853
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,399
Speaker 1: and you got to try to. Now you gotta kiss

854
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: up when you shouldn't have been started it out that way.

855
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: But I agree, it shouldn't have started out that way.

856
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:06,720
Speaker 1: But I think players, unfortunately in this day of age

857
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,320
Speaker 1: with phones and quick they have to understand they have

858
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,800
Speaker 1: to use the media to their advantage. They have to

859
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: be able to and the ain't. Now on this one, bro,

860
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: I wish I can agree with you. It's not advantage.

861
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: I think Zeke is not advantage for Zeke, but there's

862
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: an advantage in that if he blows them off and

863
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 1: walks off this off the set, that hurts no one

864
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 1: but him. Yeah, but you know what, but it's over.

865
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: It's over. It's only a one day conversation. It won't

866
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 1: be him again, no, no, and they won't get nothing. See.

867
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: The bottom line is at the end of the day,

868
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 1: we live on a twenty four hour or forty eight

869
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 1: hour at most cycle. The only way and see this

870
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 1: is this is why I tell people and if I

871
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 1: could really talk to the players fellas, before you answer,

872
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: there's always no comment and stick to that. And but

873
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: if you do think about what you're saying. Once you answer,

874
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: everything is based off time. What I mean by that

875
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 1: is over time, are you really a better person? No

876
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: matter what Zeke said today, if a year from now

877
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,359
Speaker 1: he's gotten into no trouble, two years from now he's

878
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 1: gotten into no trouble, that right now what he said

879
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 1: today won't mean a word. But if he don't now

880
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: this is why I do agree with Stephen A. If

881
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 1: you don't stay in line for the next two years,

882
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:35,399
Speaker 1: you in trouble. One other thing. In general, I think

883
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 1: I'm sympathetic to what Kurt's saying, but I also think

884
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 1: that Zeke he's not a politician who's polished and who

885
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 1: is used to thinking on his feet with a combative

886
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: press corps. He's an easy going guy. You go back

887
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 1: and look at his interviews in the locker room when

888
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:54,399
Speaker 1: he was a rookie his first, you know, first three

889
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: or four games of his career, he's just he's like,

890
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 1: oh shucks, he's easy going, he's he's not that polished guy.

891
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 1: And I bet he was. I bet he was given advice,

892
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:08,879
Speaker 1: maybe by an agent, maybe by RPR department, to hey, man,

893
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 1: if if they just keep coming at you with questions

894
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:14,240
Speaker 1: just in the interview, and then he avoids doing anything

895
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 1: that might escalate it, or he might say something awkward

896
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 1: or embarrassing that that makes it even worse. And so

897
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 1: for him, I think it might have been the smart

898
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 1: move to just end it. If it was Dak, I

899
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,839
Speaker 1: agree with you. If his dad, if it's if even

900
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 1: a Scandrick guys who who who shows that that ability

901
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 1: to they coming at you, You come at them, they're

902
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 1: coming at you. But you're gonna jump on a guy

903
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 1: and and see, this is one thing about it. I

904
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 1: give me to your credit. Let's get him fresh. Let's

905
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 1: just hit him right off the bat that you can

906
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 1: tell Zeke, Zeke, this is what's coming. And you and

907
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 1: he walks up to you for the last year and

908
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 1: y'all been friends, and all of a sudden you hit

909
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:03,240
Speaker 1: him with dad, Zeke gonna be like uh. And certain

910
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 1: players I defend, and certain players I say get them,

911
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 1: I get them. Meeting Zeke is just one I'm gonna

912
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna defend until he showed me. If this come

913
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 1: up again, then I'll be first say Kurt while I

914
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:20,399
Speaker 1: blew it. But I hope he doesn't lose his happy,

915
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: go lucky attitude that he won't. He won't because that

916
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:29,439
Speaker 1: that is their main goal. I think, pr I haven't

917
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 1: asked them that. I don't. I don't get into their business.

918
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: I don't like to get that close. But that's that's

919
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 1: their deal. That's it. You know, mister Jones has went

920
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:43,359
Speaker 1: out his way to make sure Zeke stays happy. He's

921
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 1: he's went out his way. He believe me. Money is involved,

922
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 1: and it's always gonna be. In a power player like

923
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:57,280
Speaker 1: mister Jones, money is gonna be involved. But he knows

924
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: a happy Zeke's just like we all knowing it. A

925
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: happy Zeke is a winning cowboy team a sad, uninspired Zeke,

926
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 1: we might as well cut him because everything that, all

927
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:13,839
Speaker 1: the value that he has goes out the window. Bottom line. Yeah,

928
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 1: I mean, and believe me, brother, I've been in the

929
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 1: media with you guys, these last six seven years, and

930
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 1: I know these questions had to be asked, but I

931
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 1: know who is That's one thing I had to get.

932
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 1: The Galloways of the world, the Tim Collish, y'all, all

933
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 1: these guys, even Fisher back in the day. You know,

934
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:45,240
Speaker 1: for some reason, Fishing is not a fame guy Mickey

935
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 1: back in the day. Mickey won the same guy. But

936
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 1: they never came at you in a way where you

937
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 1: just right, you know, like what nope, you know. So

938
00:54:57,760 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 1: I wonder if it would have been better to his

939
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 1: first group group. Yes, set him up, set him up

940
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 1: at a podium and say we're talking everything, do it

941
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: one shot and now I'm with you on that. That way,

942
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 1: Rich is sitting there like his lawyer. Can I answer that? Yeah,

943
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 1: yeah you yeah, but be it, be open, be positive,

944
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 1: be the happy, go look at you. You get one shot.

945
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 1: We're doing this for fifteen minutes. Ask what you want

946
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 1: to ask. If he doesn't want to comment, he's not

947
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 1: going to or even even he in his comments. He's

948
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 1: he stays positive, he stays upbeat, he doesn't get defensive. Right.

949
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 1: That helps his image and helps this whole situation so

950
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 1: much better than one. I tell you, what's awesome is

951
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 1: after this podcast, you guys need to go back and

952
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 1: watch it, watch this part of it, because this serious

953
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 1: discussion is way more awesome with the happy birthday flair.

954
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 1: You know what, You've been doing this show for what

955
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 1: six months now, and this is the first time, like

956
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 1: Kurt has actually gone at it with Nate. What's got

957
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 1: a arrow on his head? But one thing, one thing

958
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 1: about it is and this is what I tell my

959
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 1: friends about politics. This is what I tell my friends

960
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 1: about life itself. I can look at Kurt ran in

961
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 1: his eyes and leave without here and say, hey, Kurt,

962
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 1: see you tomorrow and not be like man then Kurt

963
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 1: turned out to be. The world is getting so bad, brother.

964
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:19,879
Speaker 1: I trust me when I tell you that I'm looking

965
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 1: at friends are looking at me, and I'm looking at

966
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 1: friends because our world is turning so sour. You know,

967
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 1: I understand, believe me. The only difference between me and

968
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 1: the regular media is maybe I think, how can I

969
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 1: ask him this questions so I can get this story?

970
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: You know? How could I go about it? You know?

971
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 1: And it's the only way I can go about it

972
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 1: is probably how Fisher did, because you know, Fisher is Fisher,

973
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 1: so That's probably the only way. Fisher probably didn't give

974
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 1: it a second thought. Where I may with think, you

975
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,359
Speaker 1: may with think. We don't know what the beer gonna think.

976
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. He hangs out with you

977
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 1: guys as little as possible. Hey, chopping Atlanta, you still there? Sorry,

978
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: we kept you holding on so long. You get what

979
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 1: you man, you want to talk to z you get

980
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:06,439
Speaker 1: the last word on the show. I'm what I'm taking

981
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 1: immediately make right, man, hold man, I'll torot to you brook.

982
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 1: Let me tell you come you guys, I look at

983
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 1: the Lanta. I'm a cowboy doghart forever from forward texts,

984
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 1: but I live out here and you guys got a

985
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 1: first class media department all the way around. He real talk.

986
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 1: We appreciate it, man, Thank you. I'm glad that hanging

987
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 1: with the boys and told the rest of the shows. Man,

988
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 1: you know what I'm man. I was a big eager

989
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: to ten right, hanging with the bands. They may get mad,

990
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 1: y'all have taken over the whole media. Hey, and his

991
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 1: Twitter handle is at Derek Eagle. You let him know

992
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 1: this the best show we got going on. Yeh can't

993
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 1: get us man, No doubt. Look, you guys have a great,

994
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:05,600
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995
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,360
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996
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 1: go what you know? What did your birthday? We can

997
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:13,040
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998
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999
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1000
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1007
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Speaker 1: I drank three carton milk on this show. Yeah, I'm

1008
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 1: glad you're going up to your office my car. Well, Nate,

1009
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 1: happy birthday. Wow man, So Kurt have never talked as much.

1010
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 1: He stood up for the media, fish and fishing. You

1011
00:58:55,240 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 1: gott up all your side, not at all, well, Kurt,

1012
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 1: thanks for showing up, Nate, Thanks for bringing Happy birthday man, birthday, Douglas.

1013
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 1: Thanks doing what you do. Ken, thanks for pushing all

1014
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 1: the buttons. We will come back tomorrow. It's Friday. We'll

1015
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 1: have brought us on the show the first fifteen minutes

1016
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 1: and we'll get into whose the offense is for the Yeah,

1017
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 1: we'll do what we're supposed to do today tomorrow, and

1018
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 1: we'll take some phone calls tomorrow too, So tune in

1019
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 1: tomorrow one thirty Hanging with the Boys. This has been

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