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Speaker 1: spelled out. That link is pinned in the chat. Oh Joe,
Speaker 1: all I know is this morning you've been telling people, Hey, man,
Speaker 1: I was this. I averaged this many points in basketball.
Speaker 1: I did YadA, YadA YadA. I probably could come up
Speaker 1: the bench right now for NBA team.
Speaker 2: Hey, listen, listen. Let me tell you something, right, check
Speaker 2: me out. Listen to me, chat, listen to me real quick.
Speaker 2: I didn't have a chance to practice with my teammates, right.
Speaker 2: So when the game started, we had Pepe, you know
Speaker 2: Pepe from Love Island. We had Heavy God obviously Walker Flocker,
Speaker 2: and we had two other players. So when we started
Speaker 2: the game, Clad Direction told me, I say, feel the
Speaker 2: game out and see what it is your teammates need
Speaker 2: from you. So we started the game out. Goddamn Hesy
Speaker 2: God who he called for the ice so and so
Speaker 2: he going, I say, okay, you know what, I see
Speaker 2: the tempo, I see the kind of game it's gonna be.
Speaker 2: They don't need me to be a score right, so
Speaker 2: boom Gilly them score and then we got the ball back. Boom,
Speaker 2: Pepe got the ball boy Pepe played basketball overseas. I'm like,
Speaker 2: wait a minute, boy, buddy, get ball. So but we
Speaker 2: got two scores on the court and it's only three people, right,
Speaker 2: So I'm like, boom, I'm gonna just play defense. Get
Speaker 2: the I'm gonna get the rebounds, right, and I'm gona
Speaker 2: facilitate they. I was like Lebron, you hear me, Lebron
Speaker 2: In the beginning of a game, I'm letting my teammates
Speaker 2: get in the rhythm and if they need me, then
Speaker 2: I come through. But this is a good thing about it.
Speaker 2: They didn't need me to be a score. They needed
Speaker 2: me to rebound. So I was in that thing like Rodman.
Speaker 2: You hear me, I was. I was in that thing
Speaker 2: like Prime Rodman. So check me out right. I was facilitating. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I was getting rebound And you know what, the most
Speaker 2: important stat that we got was but the win, that's
Speaker 2: what That's what we got. The win.
Speaker 1: I think they might have got that without you.
Speaker 2: Not really, not really, because let me tell you something.
Speaker 2: Not really is my defensive My defensive presence is one. Listen,
Speaker 2: I went out the game, man, no point are you
Speaker 2: listen to me? Listen to me real quick. I went
Speaker 2: out the game right. We was up twelve. I went
Speaker 2: out the game by them. Boys came back and I
Speaker 2: took the lead. They took the lead, so boom, I said,
Speaker 2: clad put me back in. Man, let me play defense
Speaker 2: real quick.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: I made him turn the ball over three times in
Speaker 2: a row. I looked at the scoreboard. The game was
Speaker 2: back tied up again.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: I put them clan, I put them clamp down.
Speaker 1: It was a rack. You couldn't get one trying to score.
Speaker 1: You know what?
Speaker 2: You know what I did tell you. I I took
Speaker 2: one jump shot and I thought dude was close. I
Speaker 2: thought dude was a little closer than it really was.
Speaker 2: And it made me clutch a little bit, and it
Speaker 2: made me clutch a little bit in there, but he
Speaker 2: was nowhere near me. He threw me off for a
Speaker 2: little bit. Outside of that, I ain't take no shots
Speaker 2: outside of that. That was it. I just want to
Speaker 2: get out there a.
Speaker 1: I see a lot of I see a triple single.
Speaker 2: Hey, hey, what you see in the w cause you
Speaker 2: you be the main one. Talk about stats don't matter
Speaker 2: as long as you win. Whoa whoah whah woh you
Speaker 2: be the main one.
Speaker 1: No, it wouldn't had you not hide yourself up about
Speaker 1: what you did at Beach High in lot in a
Speaker 1: liberty that was in ninth that was nineteen ninety one,
Speaker 1: what's twenty twenty five. I tell you what a chap
Speaker 1: You can tell a person that that played basketball at
Speaker 1: any point in time in their life.
Speaker 2: You can tell you also, you see see what you
Speaker 2: want me to do? You want to This is the
Speaker 2: same situation we talked about during basketball season, right we
Speaker 2: talked about Steph Curry. We talked about Inga and Kaminga
Speaker 2: wanted to be going there and be a scorer and
Speaker 2: do his thing, but he's not allowed to do that
Speaker 2: because Steph Curry is the one that gets the ball
Speaker 2: and takes the shots. I understood the assignment today, and
Speaker 2: you're telling me to go against the grain and do
Speaker 2: what my team doesn't need me to do.
Speaker 1: No, I'm saying, the chat will agree with me. They
Speaker 1: will be able to tell. They will be able to
Speaker 1: tell if I got out there, if we got out
Speaker 1: there with Anthony Edwards and you say let's play flag
Speaker 1: football within two or three within two or three seconds,
Speaker 1: you'll know Anthony Edwards played football at sometime time.
Speaker 2: So you're basing someone. You're basing someone knowing how to
Speaker 2: play basketball, whether they score a point or not.
Speaker 1: I'm basing it on. I can tell whether or not
Speaker 1: you played basketball competitively at any point in time in
Speaker 1: your life.
Speaker 2: I did. I mean what you're trying to say, you're
Speaker 2: not making no sense.
Speaker 1: I'm saying you weren't very good there, and you probably
Speaker 1: wasn't very good back then. That's what I'm saying. Ain't
Speaker 1: no trying to say.
Speaker 2: I said it, Hey, I know one thing. My team
Speaker 2: got to win. We got to win.
Speaker 1: Ain't hold on Heavy God and the other hold on.
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, y'all scored fifty one point y'all had three
Speaker 1: players go all your points. Heavy God had twenty eight,
Speaker 1: the other guy had seventeen, and walk A Foker had six.
Speaker 2: Okay, So basically with I'm trying to understand, I had
Speaker 2: all the rebounds, I had all the assists.
Speaker 1: So what you're saying you ain't have all of that?
Speaker 2: Did?
Speaker 1: I was like, I said, well, you know what I said.
Speaker 1: I know your give me something. So we gonna come
Speaker 1: back in here. You will tell me like, oh man,
Speaker 1: I gave I just I gave you something.
Speaker 2: I gave you a win. I gave you seven assists
Speaker 2: and three rep oh leme.
Speaker 1: But you know what you see what you try to
Speaker 1: do now? Now if they had asked you to do
Speaker 1: that in a football game, not catching no passes, but
Speaker 1: have some big blocks you lost, Why would I do that?
Speaker 2: Would do it?
Speaker 1: Why?
Speaker 2: Yo?
Speaker 1: Whoa talk about time?
Speaker 2: I see you?
Speaker 1: I remember when you wasn't getting the ball doing when
Speaker 1: you weren't getting the ball, you would lose your mind.
Speaker 1: You told the chat you lost your mind talking about
Speaker 1: why we letting them take up? That was get me.
Speaker 2: That was a playoff game against a team that we
Speaker 2: needed to beat when our quarterback, our number one quarterback
Speaker 2: went down with the a c L injury.
Speaker 1: Yes, maybe y'all need maybe y'all need to run the ball,
Speaker 1: but you weren't gonna be willing to do.
Speaker 2: You can't run the ball on the Steelers back. Then
Speaker 2: you need to throw the ball. Wo y'all. Hey, I
Speaker 2: know I know one thing where y'all trying to talk
Speaker 2: with my stat line. I locked everything up and we
Speaker 2: got the win. I know that man.
Speaker 1: Gilly Gilly cook Gillick, Gilly.
Speaker 2: Cook cook me where.
Speaker 1: Cook me? Where? Well?
Speaker 2: Gilly ain't scoring me while you're tripping.
Speaker 1: Look at Gille that Gilly just had one right now
Speaker 1: and you fell down like the man hit.
Speaker 2: He got me good, He got me good. He got
Speaker 2: me good with that one.
Speaker 1: That that that was?
Speaker 2: That was That must have been a vet move or
Speaker 2: something they learned in Philly.
Speaker 1: Boy. That must like I just know I said, you
Speaker 1: know what I said, I know my dog is gonna
Speaker 1: let us down, because that was That's what I wanted
Speaker 1: to say. I should have said, Oh Joe, do not
Speaker 1: let night Cap family down the game?
Speaker 2: What is y'all talk about? Are y'all missing the plot?
Speaker 2: Y'all missing the plot?
Speaker 1: We worry about the plot is when you go I'm
Speaker 1: missing the plot? Is you say, chat, you see how
Speaker 1: accepting he is of a win. He's accepting of something
Speaker 1: now he would have never been okay with when he plays.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: That's all the point.
Speaker 2: I'm confused.
Speaker 1: The confusion part is you would not have been okay
Speaker 1: if y'all won the game and you had.
Speaker 2: Had you do it. You're not doing come. You're not
Speaker 2: doing the Law's work right now. You're not doing the
Speaker 2: lords work right now. Now. You act like Lucifer. You can't.
Speaker 1: Listen.
Speaker 2: I had many games or understood I'm not getting the
Speaker 2: ball because some games I went into and I knew,
Speaker 2: you know it, it's going to be a long day,
Speaker 2: so I better get ready to block. And I was
Speaker 2: accepting of that because I was allowing my other teammates
Speaker 2: to do their thing. And that's what I did. To
Speaker 2: dang it. I ain't count the Reavers games I played
Speaker 2: eleven years. I got stopped one time, one time. Whooped
Speaker 2: you do res? He did everybody like that.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about it. I don't know everybody, everybody my
Speaker 1: co host. I got one co host.
Speaker 2: Matter of fact, now only do you have one coast.
Speaker 2: You had the greatest, the greatest, the greatest coast of
Speaker 2: all time, the greatest entertain of all time, the greatest
Speaker 2: trash talk of all time. And I went out there.
Speaker 2: I did my job on what my team, which I
Speaker 2: just want.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to do.
Speaker 2: We are angry. You didn't need me to score a point.
Speaker 2: We got two ball dominant handlers on the court. That's
Speaker 2: not what we needed me to do. Okay, that's it,
Speaker 2: and we got the w. Gilly was a three time
Speaker 2: m v P. That's what he was.
Speaker 1: Gilly wasn't on your team. Why you're worried about it.
Speaker 2: It was a three time m VP and he all
Speaker 2: of a sudden he gets locked up and he doesn't
Speaker 2: win it, and he losing.
Speaker 1: How many points did Gilly have? Ocho zero? Ocho Brico,
Speaker 1: Chad Brick Johnson.
Speaker 2: I know what thing? We got that W? We got
Speaker 2: that W?
Speaker 1: Hey agent zero?
Speaker 2: Hey a Gil?
Speaker 1: Can we can we borro then for tonight?
Speaker 2: Oh? Agent zero ojo agent zero? What everyone to call it?
Speaker 2: They all went home with a L. I don't care
Speaker 2: how many points they score. They can hold that L.
Speaker 1: That L.
Speaker 2: That L stand for losers.
Speaker 1: I think with them long arms like a prayer man,
Speaker 1: you got it, like.
Speaker 2: Hey, them long arms were playing defense, grabbing him rebounds. Hey,
Speaker 2: I've told you it is robbing in his prime.
Speaker 1: So so who won the m V p Hensy God?
Speaker 2: Probably he probably did? He probably did. I ain't stay
Speaker 2: for that. I went to go take a shower and
Speaker 2: go smoke. Yeah, hey, hey, hold on you for.
Speaker 1: What you gave him. You could have been smoking on this, not.
Speaker 2: Really because we would have lost because when I went
Speaker 2: the game, didn't I tell you? They came back and
Speaker 2: they took the lead. Hey, hey, let me tell you
Speaker 2: something it's one thing we talked about basketball.
Speaker 1: Huh, how how gillna have more rebounds than you did? Oh?
Speaker 2: Because they missing all their damn shots?
Speaker 1: Well, why you waiting in the game?
Speaker 2: Then that that should tell you something.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I had to come out. I had to let the
Speaker 2: other people play.
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? You have let me ask
Speaker 1: you a question. Did Hensy God come out? No?
Speaker 2: No, no, he ain't come out the whole game. He
Speaker 2: gotta let other people play. Hensey God was our Steph Curry.
Speaker 2: Hensy God was our lebron.
Speaker 1: Hensy God was come out the game, y'all, didy have
Speaker 1: tibada as y'all.
Speaker 2: Coach now Clyde grinded up to the gear. We want
Speaker 2: letting them Hey, we wanted to let them boy win back. Hey,
Speaker 2: that's that's glem for fun. I went. I got a question,
Speaker 2: though you would know better than me. I'm new to
Speaker 2: the basketball, the basketball space in general, watching old ly ship,
Speaker 2: watching them boys that's in the Big Three, right. He's
Speaker 2: explained to me. Why what I'm watching on the court
Speaker 2: to night from the players that are that are playing
Speaker 2: in the semi final going to the finals, How in
Speaker 2: the f are they not in the NBA. Help me understand,
Speaker 2: Glynn Rice Jr. What I saw from Beasley. Let me
Speaker 2: take my glass off. Lance Stevenson and I sold one
Speaker 2: on one. Please explain to me how these people are
Speaker 2: not in the NBA.
Speaker 1: Does that tell Does that tell you how good the
Speaker 1: guys in the NBA actually are? Now?
Speaker 2: Paul Mill said, Man, Paul Mills, Okay, I'm telling you
Speaker 2: what it looks like. I'm telling you with my eyes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, going against you saw the NBA game, You've been courtsided.
Speaker 1: Do you see how good those guys are. Those guys
Speaker 1: are really really good. The guy is sitting at the
Speaker 1: end of the bitch, the guy that everybody call me,
Speaker 1: he'll scrum, he'll bum, He don't even get the game.
Speaker 1: He'll wax everybody and everybody's lifetime fitness and Planet Hollywood,
Speaker 1: planet Fitness, wherever the Cordials, he'll wax everybody. That's how good.
Speaker 2: And I think that's the problem. That's the problem. I
Speaker 2: haven't been in an environment enough.
Speaker 1: I went to one.
Speaker 2: I went to one NBA game when when the Sixers
Speaker 2: uh and b the seventy point game. That's my only
Speaker 2: game I went to whatever year that was. And this
Speaker 2: is my first time being in that environment. Again, like man,
Speaker 2: but you've been around pro sports.
Speaker 1: You know the guy even the fifth wide receiver, the
Speaker 1: guy that's on the privy right. It's good. It's really
Speaker 1: really good. And when they say man, man, he was
Speaker 1: the liqu in high school. He was All American, he
Speaker 1: was all Stayed, he was Gatorade Player of the Year. Yeah.
Speaker 2: One more thing. It's politics home, It's politics because some
Speaker 2: of them dudes is good enough based on what I saw,
Speaker 2: to still be on the NBA team and contribute to somebody.
Speaker 2: And I come on it, Oh.
Speaker 1: Jo, you talked about a three on three, Now you
Speaker 1: talk about a five on five in the open court.
Speaker 2: You do realize these dudes already played in the NBA.
Speaker 1: Thank you. You played in the NFL. There are a
Speaker 1: lot of people that play in the NFL that don't
Speaker 1: mean they can go back and play again.
Speaker 2: That's why I said the word.
Speaker 1: That's why what what do you? And I always talk
Speaker 1: about It's easier to get in and stay in than
Speaker 1: it is to get in, get out and try to
Speaker 1: get back. That's why once you get in, you stay.
Speaker 1: What's your mom and your grandma you can tell you,
Speaker 1: but stay your ass in or out the house. But
Speaker 1: you ain't keep right.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, okay, but again as.
Speaker 1: Once you get in, stay in and then when it's
Speaker 1: is over, it's over now. Uh Look, I remember Beasley
Speaker 1: when he came out. Uh he was the number two pick,
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken behind.
Speaker 2: Rose Buddy was nasty to night on geez us.
Speaker 1: But you know, but you know what, Joe, when you
Speaker 1: you go back, we all have have made mistakes and
Speaker 1: like man, if I had it to do, and sometimes
Speaker 1: sometimes some people do get you overs and some people.
Speaker 2: He's a walking bucket. That's all I can say. He's
Speaker 2: a walking bucket. Now now I understand what all the
Speaker 2: talking that he does, and you know, wanting to play
Speaker 2: Joe and Joe is a walking bucket too, but being
Speaker 2: able to see it in person.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but no, y'all don't really. I mean, if you
Speaker 1: never saw Joe playing, I've seen Joe play. I've seen
Speaker 1: Joe play playoff games. I used to go to that
Speaker 1: Dars game. No Joe, No Joe's the seven times I know,
Speaker 1: I know, I know.
Speaker 2: I have I've never had I've never had the privilege
Speaker 2: of watching Joe playing person. So obviously when he joined
Speaker 2: us and get a better understanding of Joe. But I
Speaker 2: have seen all the goddamn highlights.
Speaker 1: I say, what God damn Yoe know them guys. But
Speaker 1: when you start looking at those those I mean, look,
Speaker 1: there's levels of this. You start looking at the Steph
Speaker 1: curve and the Lebron's and the kds and the joy
Speaker 1: and all those. Man, it's it's levels. It's just like
Speaker 1: it's level two receivers there. You know, you got tear receiver,
Speaker 1: then you got man, they got really good. But he
Speaker 1: ain't right right right quarterbacks, he might be I man,
Speaker 1: he pretty pretty good.
Speaker 2: But for me, it was a joy to see in person.
Speaker 2: It was it was a joy to seeing person even
Speaker 2: though they might not be at the highest level anymore,
Speaker 2: might not be playing on the biggest stage.
Speaker 1: It's hard to get back in I mean, uhh, I
Speaker 1: mean how old Beasley. Now Beasley gotta be what thirty four,
Speaker 1: thirty five? Now he got to be at thirty six?
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, hey, that that was a joy though.
Speaker 1: That was a joy. O Jo. The Bears beat the
Speaker 1: Bills thirty eight nothing. Today is the first time the
Speaker 1: Bears fans can see what Caleb Williams can do in
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson's offense. The opening drive, Williams letty On a
Speaker 1: seventh play, ninety two yard drive, Williams completed five or
Speaker 1: six ninety seven yards. Thirty six of those yards came
Speaker 1: on a touchdown pass to Olama Dade is a kiss man.
Speaker 1: I know it's the preseason, Joe, and I don't want
Speaker 1: to get to I don't I don't want to. I
Speaker 1: don't want to get too far front of this. But
Speaker 1: the Bears was.
Speaker 2: That just getting ready to say that, would get ready
Speaker 2: to say the same thing. Listen, I know I know
Speaker 2: what Caleb Williams could do. I've seen, I've seen. I've
Speaker 2: seen him at USC. I've seen flash of him last
Speaker 2: year without someone like Ben Johnson at the helm to
Speaker 2: help him develop, without Ben Johnson's creativity from my off
Speaker 2: from the standpoint understanding what he can do and help
Speaker 2: Kayler get to that next level at the quarterback position.
Speaker 2: I want to talk about that god damn Luther Burdon.
Speaker 2: That goddamn Luther Burdon woll look good boy, That god
Speaker 2: damn rookie at receiver, bruh Lose. I've never mestioned you before,
Speaker 2: but you look good tonight. Obviously in the preseason, people say,
Speaker 2: oh it's preseason. Don't get too high, don't get too low.
Speaker 2: Just but you look good. Boy. I've been watching. I've
Speaker 2: been watching the past two weeks. This week, I mean,
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter who's throwing the ball. I'm not sure
Speaker 2: why he's running with the twos and the threes. You know,
Speaker 2: he what you mean?
Speaker 1: So so so he's gonna play in front of Roman.
Speaker 2: Dude, I mean three receiver sets. I'm I'm assuming it.
Speaker 1: Okay, the kiss is in the slot.
Speaker 2: Oh that's a a. They got some decisions to make
Speaker 2: over that offensively, because he looked. He looked good.
Speaker 1: Now, maybe when they go five wides, and you saw
Speaker 1: they read a lot of tight ends set. They had Loveland,
Speaker 1: they had cocher Man. Now he is a multiple set.
Speaker 1: He is a he'll run a lot of different sets.
Speaker 1: He'll go too tight, he'll go through three. Wise, you
Speaker 1: go five wides, he'll go you know, Emptier put his
Speaker 1: backs out. But this offense looked really I thought, overall,
Speaker 1: I thought they played well. I thought the defense got
Speaker 1: after the Bills. I thought the offense moved the ball.
Speaker 1: Whether it was Williams Bajet. I guess that's how you
Speaker 1: say his name. He came in with thirteen or twenty
Speaker 1: two for one ninety six and a touchdown. I thought
Speaker 1: Williams were unbelievable to opening drive to go ninety two
Speaker 1: yards on five and six pension. He had one hundred
Speaker 1: and seven yards. They had over five hundred yards of offense.
Speaker 1: And like I said, I don't want to get too
Speaker 1: far myself, but they look good. But they did look good,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna be a lot better because they have
Speaker 1: a guy that has an offensive mind. Because you got
Speaker 1: a quarterback and you need somebody that's imaginative, that has
Speaker 1: an imagination to put him in position and say, hey, son,
Speaker 1: I want you to be you. I'm gonna put you
Speaker 1: in the best position impossible. The offensive line is good,
Speaker 1: is much improved. The offensive line is much improved, very much.
Speaker 1: The Bears look good and chat y'all. Look, I know
Speaker 1: it's preseason. You sold in the second game of preseason,
Speaker 1: and I really don't want to like get a speed ticket,
Speaker 1: but let's just say I'm going forward in the thirty five.
Speaker 1: I ain't going fifty five sixty, but I'm going I'm
Speaker 1: I'm I'm a little over the speed limbing. I'm liking
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Now. I'm gonna say this again. I think I said
Speaker 2: it on either last Night show or maybe I said
Speaker 2: this sometime last week. The same teams that are always
Speaker 2: in contention are going to be in contention this year. Chat,
Speaker 2: I'm going out on the limb. I'm gonna say it
Speaker 2: before the season even gets here. The two teams that
Speaker 2: I think are the dark horses to surprise everybody and
Speaker 2: make a run and having a playoff appearance, the Chicago
Speaker 2: Bears and the Carolina Panthers. I'm telling you people might
Speaker 2: people might in the chat, you might last but say, yeah,
Speaker 2: right whatever whatever I'm telling you, watch and when it happens,
Speaker 2: don't don't call don't call me. Oltra Damas. I just know,
Speaker 2: I just I just understand how things are going to
Speaker 2: play out. I'm excited. I'm excited for the football season. Man,
Speaker 2: like you don't understand I'm excited.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's right round the corner. It's right, it's right
Speaker 1: around the corner. Where uh what September.
Speaker 2: Four, Yeah, Thursday Night Dallas in Dallas and the Eels Dallas.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we're about three weeks away them. Well, we're
Speaker 1: two weeks from We're two weeks from Thursday, right, so
Speaker 1: two weeks from Thursdays.
Speaker 2: What the hell we supposed to do in between that time?
Speaker 1: We'll find something to talk about. We talk about you
Speaker 1: scored zero points in the Big Three. But listen, that's
Speaker 1: a whole that's a whole show.
Speaker 2: It is a whole show, bad step. I can see
Speaker 2: if I scored zero and be lost. But the point
Speaker 2: of a team game is to win.
Speaker 1: I thought, for first of all, you can't score zero.
Speaker 2: I mean, you can score whatever you want as long
Speaker 2: as you win.
Speaker 1: You you know, if you scored, that means you put
Speaker 1: something on the board.
Speaker 2: Listen, listen there there there are so many other aspects
Speaker 2: to my game outside of just scoring. Because we already
Speaker 2: had two prolific scores on the court. So what did
Speaker 2: I do? My defensive presence? Hey, I was, I was
Speaker 2: like this, I'm they couldn't even they couldn't even get
Speaker 2: by me. And then I had him messing up. Turn
Speaker 2: the ball over. You should have saw me. You should
Speaker 2: have been caught side man.
Speaker 1: Why didn't make turn it?
Speaker 2: He did? Gilly turned over twice? Turn the ball over twice?
Speaker 2: They're playing defense, and they tried to pick when I
Speaker 2: squeezed right through the pick like Michael Jackson went right
Speaker 2: through the pick. No, no, no, no, sir, I got
Speaker 2: skinny real quick. I got skinny real quick. Now where
Speaker 2: you going?
Speaker 1: Oh you fall? You follow over the screen?
Speaker 2: I went no, no, I ain't. I ain't. I ain't
Speaker 2: even bow over it. I wentn't bold right through it.
Speaker 2: But I got skinny. So it working interesting. Yeah, listen, man, listening.
Speaker 2: So many other aspects of my game was on point
Speaker 2: where I didn't even need to be a score. That's
Speaker 2: how great I am. That's how great I am.
Speaker 1: I think I think in watching the Biers, I think
Speaker 1: ibra Flus and his system or whomever he had coaching.
Speaker 1: Kate Williams, this is the best. This is the best
Speaker 1: we've seen the Bears offense. Look, Chicago scored zero touchdowns
Speaker 1: on his over the possessions last year. So in seventeen
Speaker 1: games they had zero touchdowns on over the possession And
Speaker 1: like I said, I understand this is a preseason game.
Speaker 1: They had the most drives ending in punts. They were
Speaker 1: dead lasting total offense. So I look, you can't go nowhere.
Speaker 2: But whoa whoa, whoa. The Bears were dead lasting total
Speaker 2: offense last year.
Speaker 1: Yes, thirty two.
Speaker 2: I liked him to finish in the top ten. I
Speaker 2: liked them. I liked them to finish in the top
Speaker 2: ten with all limb goddamn weapons.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they got some weapons, all of them. I mean,
Speaker 1: they had one hundred and they had forty three carries.
Speaker 1: And the thing is that I like about him that
Speaker 1: he he'd running in he'll throw it. They had thirty
Speaker 1: nine pass they had forty three rushing temps. First of all,
Speaker 1: that's a lot of that's a lot of damn plays,
Speaker 1: even for a pre season. Let's get that.
Speaker 2: It's the bill. It's the Bill's fault. It's the Bill's fault.
Speaker 2: Too many goddamn three and outs.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, you bisky, Mike White, mm hmm. Frank gor Jr.
Speaker 1: Looked good. He had had a fumble, but he got
Speaker 1: He reminds you of you.
Speaker 2: Gotta have that thing high and tight, especially when that
Speaker 2: traffic in that traffic coming.
Speaker 1: He ain't saying, you know, he ain't see him coming.
Speaker 1: He saw the guy from the side that got.
Speaker 2: The peu.
Speaker 1: But but and they're in a tough division. That is
Speaker 1: a very tough division at the Bears in you got
Speaker 1: green Bay, you got Detroit, you got Minnesota. So you
Speaker 1: gotta get better and you don't have you don't have. No.
Speaker 2: One thing you have to get better on is putting
Speaker 2: up points, because every other everyone, every other team you
Speaker 2: just named, they're gonna they're putting up points. And I'm
Speaker 2: not talking about field goals, ei though.
Speaker 1: No, but it's gonna be interested to see what Detroit
Speaker 1: is without Ben Johnson.
Speaker 2: Well, hey, wait a minute. You got to understand, even
Speaker 2: without Ben Johnson there, the same players are still there.
Speaker 2: So I think even with the creativity, regardless if the
Speaker 2: creativity isn't there, the players are the call they still
Speaker 2: have players that can go get it. Jameson Wilson, Jameson Williams, Williams, God,
Speaker 2: I'm talking so fast, So down, O, Joe, so down.
Speaker 2: Jamo can go get it, aman Ross Brown can go
Speaker 2: get it. Jamiir you know you know what you get
Speaker 2: from David Montgomery Jamiir?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Because I mean, I think, regardless who's calling the players,
Speaker 2: the play calling job is that easy because of the
Speaker 2: elite talent at its disposals to be able to use.
Speaker 1: Well, if it was that easy, So why wasn't Chicago
Speaker 1: any better than what they were? If all it was
Speaker 1: about players? Whoa whoa, whoa, whoa whoa.
Speaker 2: There's no Aman Ross Saint Brown over there. There is no.
Speaker 1: We said they look good? Did we not say? Now?
Speaker 1: What play? What player that we said looked good? That
Speaker 1: wasn't there last year? You told me it's the players.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter who the play caller is, so it
Speaker 1: shouldn't matter that even Flu was there or whomever to
Speaker 1: play call.
Speaker 2: Listen, I'm speaking pacifically on personnel and skill set.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at Williams. Was he not the quarterback?
Speaker 2: Let's let's please. No, No, you're not. You're not understand
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. I'm understanding what by positions had the
Speaker 2: better players, and I mean no disrespected what the Bears have.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying that.
Speaker 1: It is right. Yes, I give you another example. What
Speaker 1: happened to the Eagles when they lost both of their
Speaker 1: coordinators after going to the Super Bowl? They had the
Speaker 1: same players. Jalen Hurst was there? A J. Brown was there,
Speaker 1: Devonte Smith was there? What happened the next season? Did
Speaker 1: they look the same?
Speaker 2: It's not sure, but I'm trying to I'm trying to
Speaker 2: think when the Eagles went to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: They went to the Super Bowl, they lost, They lost
Speaker 1: both coordinators, the offensive coordinator and the defensive coordinators the
Speaker 1: same playoffs with.
Speaker 2: Is that is that the is that the year where
Speaker 2: the defense couldn't tackle the goddamn can't tackle the soul?
Speaker 1: It didn't matter?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think we we we make it
Speaker 2: because the Eagles problem was their defense. They weren't tackling
Speaker 2: no goddamn body.
Speaker 1: And what about the offense?
Speaker 2: To that point, it looked like they was doing no
Speaker 2: goddamn purpose.
Speaker 1: What about the offense?
Speaker 2: Was that right?
Speaker 1: It was all right?
Speaker 2: It was all right.
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts had more turnover in the first half of
Speaker 1: the season than he had the entire season the year before.
Speaker 1: But you say they looked the same.
Speaker 2: But wait, hold on, hold, whoa whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa.
Speaker 2: You can't you can't blame the offensive wolves on an
Speaker 2: individual player, on the person calling the God damn, you
Speaker 2: have to make better.
Speaker 1: I'm asking you. Did their offense look the same as
Speaker 1: the offense that went to the Super Bowl? Did their
Speaker 1: defense look the same as the defense that led them
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl.
Speaker 2: That's all I'm asking. But listen, listen, I tell you what.
Speaker 2: I tell you what. I love the points you're trying
Speaker 2: to make. But I know the makeup of the Detroit
Speaker 2: Lions offense that they're still going to look to part
Speaker 2: regardless of whether Ben Johnson is there or not, because
Speaker 2: of what they have there offense.
Speaker 1: What about defense? They lost a g two though, ooh,
Speaker 1: that's nice.
Speaker 2: They still got Brian Branch. They still got Aiden Hutchinson.
Speaker 1: He's back. It's one.
Speaker 2: They got one more dog over there. I'm losing. I'm losing.
Speaker 1: Tearing on.
Speaker 2: Are you talking about carry Joseph? Yes, the safety Kerry Joseph. Hell,
Speaker 2: he had what ten t eight Terry on Donald, listen along.
Speaker 1: He gotta do, he gotta, he gotta, he gotta keep it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that that's it.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna be right on both sides of ball.
Speaker 1: I know what.
Speaker 2: Think they're gonna put some points out. They're gonna put
Speaker 2: some points out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's always sometimes you have a like it takes you.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it takes a team a year to adjust without
Speaker 1: because Ben has been there so long. I mean he's
Speaker 1: been there, what what for five years? I mean, that's
Speaker 1: the that's the only person that Jerry Golf has had
Speaker 1: in his ear since he's been in Detroit a g.
Speaker 1: He's been to d C for what three years? So
Speaker 1: it's gonna looks they're an extremely talented club. They're one
Speaker 1: of the they're one of the they're one of the
Speaker 1: favorites along with the Eagles. Uh, the Eagles Detroit, the
Speaker 1: Packers or the Niners, you know, Tampa.
Speaker 2: Hey, hold on, I got a question. You just said
Speaker 2: the Niners. You think the nineer is still gonna the same?
Speaker 1: No de Bo brand. They got Robert. They got Robert.
Speaker 1: They got Robert, solid back deep de bop. De Bo
Speaker 1: didn't give him anything last year. Ooe, he didn't give
Speaker 1: me anything.
Speaker 2: He was the de bow from Uh.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. They also get the let's just
Speaker 1: say they get a healthy Christian McCaffrey back.
Speaker 2: Hey, that's nasty.
Speaker 1: Now, it's gonna be interesting to see how healthy Brandon
Speaker 1: our Yuk is and how soon because sometimes it's the
Speaker 1: year after the it's the it's the the following year,
Speaker 1: not the not the season right after the surgery, it's
Speaker 1: the year after h So we'll see how soon. But
Speaker 1: you know they they still got an outstanding offensive line.
Speaker 1: Uh uh uh, big Trent, Let's see how healthy he is?
Speaker 1: Can he get back to being Trent Williams Kittle is
Speaker 1: still a top tight end in the league. Uh party Now,
Speaker 1: they did lose lose some guys, Drake greenlaw Ward, they
Speaker 1: lost some guys. Uh fanger, They've they've lost some guys
Speaker 1: on the defensive side, But Robert solid is back. That
Speaker 1: defense wasn't the same without Robert Salon, without Robertson?
Speaker 2: Did they ever fix receiver? Juwan Jennings did the ever
Speaker 2: a contract?
Speaker 1: Now? I haven't heard anything else about it. I haven't
Speaker 1: heard anything else about it.
Speaker 2: He's nice for the for the work he put in
Speaker 2: and then stepping up when you going down, and when
Speaker 2: Deebo was hurt and injured, he made some really good
Speaker 2: plays and made sure they didn't miss a beat offensively.
Speaker 2: I hope he wore him before the season starts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of out your kind of like the
Speaker 1: situation that Cam Hayward is in. Remember they tore Cam
Speaker 1: Hayward game a two year deal and then you know
Speaker 1: he played well and said, well, I can't see myself
Speaker 1: playing on this number because because other guys. He saw
Speaker 1: other defensive players raises. Sometimes the worst thing you can
Speaker 1: do is base your worth on what somebody else got.
Speaker 2: That's a good one.
Speaker 1: I like that. I don't know they used to do it.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they still did it when when
Speaker 1: you were there, you remember they used to pass the
Speaker 1: thing right to shoot around all the receivers. They had
Speaker 1: all the highest payer because you're receivers. So you saw
Speaker 1: what everybody else need. You like that, Plus you got
Speaker 1: all the guys on your own team, plus every receiver.
Speaker 1: What they're making. Oh, man, man, that thing come out there. Hey,
Speaker 1: I get that thing. I'll be looking at somebody TV
Speaker 1: like you make that and you're giving us that man.
Speaker 2: Speaking of teammate, Store told me to tell you hello, O,
Speaker 2: I see I see old rade.
Speaker 1: What I see? No raid? But he that was he? Hey,
Speaker 1: that was my road now that guy a beer. Crock
Speaker 1: was quick to take a trip to beg Yeah. Ray
Speaker 1: Ray told me tell you hello, man, man, I hate
Speaker 1: I hain't talked to Crock at a minute. We gotta
Speaker 1: go back. I got opple. I'm gonna hit him up.
Speaker 2: Stop what are you doing? He's drinking out of my car?
Speaker 2: Ah damn he I don't even.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like a ray on what you call him?
Speaker 1: When the man walk out there? Neked he had yell O,
Speaker 1: I don't even want it no more. But you are drinking.
Speaker 2: Water? Okay, okay, okay, look at him, look ahead, and
Speaker 2: he do nothing. Thirsty a twin twin, you're thirsty, twin roll.
Speaker 2: He just left.
Speaker 1: He got water in the in the kitchen.
Speaker 2: You know, water in the kitchen and water in the cup,
Speaker 2: two completely different things.
Speaker 1: It's the same water. I promise you look at that,
Speaker 1: look at him. Yeah, I don't even want this no more. George,
Speaker 1: Oh why you come up here? I thought you wanted
Speaker 1: to lay down anyway.
Speaker 2: Well, he's like a miniature lion. Oh man, you know
Speaker 2: and you know who play tomorrow night? Uh?
Speaker 1: Who the hoover? If you can?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, play the Commanders.
Speaker 1: Oh you saw his foot foots and Arizona last night?
Speaker 1: Did you? It looked good? Right? It was that right?
Speaker 2: They looked good. That was cool, It was cool.
Speaker 1: It was cool. I want you to go down there
Speaker 1: and seeing you down to Miami, drink out of every
Speaker 1: cup on the table.
Speaker 2: Oh, at my place, he come to my place. He's
Speaker 2: gonna be mad and he's gonna be thirsty as hell.
Speaker 2: I ain't got no pots, I ain't got no pants,
Speaker 2: I ain't got no I don't got no cups. I
Speaker 2: ain't got nothing in there. Like I live, I have
Speaker 2: a minimal minimal what's the word A minimalist. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: seemed like that too, that too, see all the unnecessary stuff.
Speaker 2: I used to used to get nice, big places and
Speaker 2: start just buying stuff, and it looks so cluttered. So
Speaker 2: I remember when I think my idea when Kim, when
Speaker 2: Kim Kardashian was with Kanye, You remember they had that
Speaker 2: white house where it looked like a museum when you
Speaker 2: walk in, everything was real spacious, but it was cool
Speaker 2: and it wasn't all that. It wasn't all cluttered, and
Speaker 2: it just looked it looked different like a museum. So
Speaker 2: that was my idea, and that's what I did. I
Speaker 2: went all white. I ain't got no pots, I ain't
Speaker 2: got no pants, I ain't got no damn toaster. I
Speaker 2: ain't got nothing. Yeah, yeah, I ain't got nothing. But
Speaker 2: it looks really good. And when you walk in, it's like, wow,
Speaker 2: this looks it looks expensive. You know, yeah, yeah, you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: it looks it looks lived in, but like, yeah, I keep,
Speaker 2: I keep. Everything is all white. Of course it looks
Speaker 2: lived then like my kids come there and I tell him,
Speaker 2: don't touch nothing, don't nothing. Yeah, no, sun nothing, don't
Speaker 2: touch my piano. You know, I got a I got
Speaker 2: a white piano. I've been taking a piano lesson, don't
Speaker 2: don't touch nothing. Yeah, man, that's may we trying to
Speaker 2: do the show twin go play with.
Speaker 1: Teddy, all right? Let out the same quarterback competition might
Speaker 1: go down to the wild. Shook played four drives game,
Speaker 1: only nine nine yards in the first two. Then he
Speaker 1: went five or six on his best drive, which ended
Speaker 1: in a crystal lobby drop leading to a field goal.
Speaker 1: Spencer Rattler had five drives, one of which ended in
Speaker 1: a field goal after he threw a forty forty nine
Speaker 1: yard pass in affairs call on the incompletion of Mason Tempton.
Speaker 1: Rattler finished eighteen or twenty four one where they touched
Speaker 1: down at an interception. I thought both of them made
Speaker 1: some some good throws. I thought Rattler made it on
Speaker 1: a on a deep seven rodd. Oh show you threw
Speaker 1: it led basically turn it into a square out the
Speaker 1: wire receiver.
Speaker 2: Squared it off.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Nice, nice route. I don't think it's a four
Speaker 1: gone conclusion. I could be wrong, but I don't think
Speaker 1: it's a four gone conclusion that that Spencer Rattler start.
Speaker 2: You think they can put Shuck in front of him.
Speaker 1: Well he started, I think, if I'm not mistaken, I
Speaker 1: think he.
Speaker 2: Started today, didn't he Well, they didn't.
Speaker 1: Didn't Shuck start today on Ratlers.
Speaker 2: They did it on purpose. If Shuck did start, they
Speaker 2: did it on purpose. Okay, we let Spencer Raleigh start
Speaker 2: the first game.
Speaker 1: Shuck.
Speaker 2: You don't get to go this this game. And we'll
Speaker 2: compare the two.
Speaker 1: And do we Yeah, we'll see well yeah a yeah.
Speaker 2: See. It's like it's like my grandma used to have
Speaker 2: a saying, when two things are bad, listen, you gotta
Speaker 2: go with one of them. You got to pick the
Speaker 2: lesser of the evil. I guess something something like that.
Speaker 2: She used to say. All the time, they neither neither
Speaker 2: of the two have shown any signs where it's like,
Speaker 2: you know what, he clears Day is the better player.
Speaker 2: He clear Day is the better quarterback with the ball
Speaker 2: in his hands, making the better decisions to give us
Speaker 2: a chance to win week in and week out.
Speaker 1: They don't.
Speaker 2: They don't have someone like that, which is why I
Speaker 2: don't understand. Now mind, I'm not gonna get back to
Speaker 2: the drafting.
Speaker 1: I think and plus oho, I think of the four
Speaker 1: teams that's in that division, clearly they have the worst
Speaker 1: worst quarterback play of any team in that You know, Tampa,
Speaker 1: I think Tampa has the best quarter.
Speaker 2: The best team, the best team maybe and maybe then.
Speaker 1: Clearly uh And then you know you like Bryce Young
Speaker 1: Or do you like Michael Pennis Jr. But no matter
Speaker 1: where you put them to three, three, two, whatever the
Speaker 1: case may be, those quarterbacks are still better than what
Speaker 1: they possess in no world. And that's what that's what
Speaker 1: that's what New Orleans is up against. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: what you know the Saints are up against is that
Speaker 1: the play the quarterback and that and they're not going
Speaker 1: to face very many teams in which they're the opposing
Speaker 1: team quarterback is worse than theirs because when you look
Speaker 1: at it, when you look at the landscape of the NFL,
Speaker 1: you tell me who got worse quarterbacks than what the
Speaker 1: playoffs in New Orleans? I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know. I don't know. Twitter is
Speaker 2: very truthful. People on Twitter and Instagrams. They tell the truth.
Speaker 2: And I simply asked the question not too long ago,
Speaker 2: sings fans, are you optimistical optimistic about the quarterback situation
Speaker 2: depending on where they want to go, whether it's no,
Speaker 2: and they like no.
Speaker 1: No, no, You're not going nowhere. No quarterback trash.
Speaker 2: Fans.
Speaker 1: Look, the hardest thing to do is when you have
Speaker 1: a great quarterback, is to not be afraid to draft
Speaker 1: a quarterback. And you see, and you see what happens
Speaker 1: when you go look at because they take all the
Speaker 1: reps and the last thing you want to do is
Speaker 1: take a quarterback high, oh Joe, and take the quarterback off.
Speaker 1: So teams skate around it and the next thing you know,
Speaker 1: the guy got he rots on the mind, he leaves.
Speaker 1: Now what you got? They never got an adequate replacement
Speaker 1: for Drew. You gotta you gotta say what you want
Speaker 1: about coach Belichick. But coach Belichick was trying to he
Speaker 1: was trying to predict, he was trying to get ready
Speaker 1: for the future. He was trying to have the bridge.
Speaker 1: Now he started to build a bridge too soon. But
Speaker 1: look at pay look at pay right, they didn't have
Speaker 1: a thing. He gets hurt, they go too and fourteen
Speaker 1: Now perfect thing happened. Perfect guess what Andrew lux coming out? Now,
Speaker 1: it had been great if luck could have stayed healthy.
Speaker 1: Well they had, they had skill position players, but they
Speaker 1: couldn't protect him. And he didn't do a good enough
Speaker 1: job protecting himself because he took He took some shots
Speaker 1: he shouldn't have taken. Sometimes you gotta you can protect yourself.
Speaker 1: You gotta protect yourself. They need to do a better
Speaker 1: job of giving Hi an offensive line, o Joe, But
Speaker 1: he needed to do a better job of protecting himself
Speaker 1: once he got past the offensive line. Slide down, run
Speaker 1: your butt, you run out of bounds. You can't play
Speaker 1: hero ball against thee got to break you and so
Speaker 1: and that's the hard thing because you know, nobody we
Speaker 1: saw what happened when green Bay took Aaron Rodgers. It
Speaker 1: ticked off Brent Barr. When green Bay took your love,
Speaker 1: it ticked off Aaron Rodgers. So you you you, I
Speaker 1: mean you walking a real real tight rope, Ojoe, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know I'm gonna make him mad, but I can
Speaker 1: make him mad and have another ten twelve years of
Speaker 1: prosperity once he leave, or I can keep him happy,
Speaker 1: and when he leaves, I'll be in the trash being for.
Speaker 2: Two teams that are struggling in that same in that
Speaker 2: area right now. The Pittsburgh Steelers did it with Big
Speaker 2: Ben did the Saints didn't have anyone on. Don't you
Speaker 2: breeze decided to hang it out.
Speaker 1: Correct, you're right, So that's a fire. That's a fine
Speaker 1: line that that teams walk and and uh uh, I
Speaker 1: don't even I don't. I don't even that having to
Speaker 1: make those tough decisions. Oh Joe. The Texans trade John
Speaker 1: metsche the third to the Eagles. Texas received Harrison Bryant,
Speaker 1: a fifth round and a fifth round pick. The Eagles
Speaker 1: received John Metchi and a sixth round pick. Eagles room
Speaker 1: now includes A J. Brown, Devonte Smith, who is a
Speaker 1: teammate of John of the third, Johann Dotson, uh and
Speaker 1: Johnny Wilson.
Speaker 2: Hey, that's not fair, that's not fair.
Speaker 1: Jay Tuck said, Dog w t f is going, No,
Speaker 1: why do team just keep him?
Speaker 2: Why would I was getting ready to say the same thing.
Speaker 2: I was getting ready to say say the same thing.
Speaker 2: Not only do you add another wire to the receiver room.
Speaker 2: You still got saved. Pam Barkley. You're coming off the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl when you got one hell of a goddamn defense.
Speaker 2: You know, you got to young studs out there, Keon
Speaker 2: Mitchell and what's what's what's the goodness? Coop with the
Speaker 2: John boy, he's so he's so nice, he's so listen,
Speaker 2: Coop de John was so nice and play so well.
Speaker 2: Last year. They really let Darius Slake go to the
Speaker 2: goddamn Steelers like he made that big of impression. You
Speaker 2: know what, we can move on as good as Darius Slave.
Speaker 1: Still is the money. Look at that. But you got
Speaker 1: a guy, second round pick that's on a rookie contract.
Speaker 1: Oh you got a guy. You got a guy making fourteen, sixteen,
Speaker 1: eighteen million dollars and they looking at us like it's
Speaker 1: not the like with the d line we got. He
Speaker 1: ain't got a cover along.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good, good good.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, don't you. That's our team process.
Speaker 1: So I I mean, uh, plus, you know Metchi was
Speaker 1: I mean the Texans turned in like he was running
Speaker 1: I think I read he was running like fifth on
Speaker 1: the depth chart.
Speaker 2: Fifth.
Speaker 1: That's what he said, because you know they had they
Speaker 1: got Christian Kirk from Jacksonville.
Speaker 2: That Christian Kirk, Christian who's the number two?
Speaker 1: He is? Because you know they got Nico Collins. Tank
Speaker 1: Dale's not gonna play man.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I like tank Boy, Tank nice boy, you're nice.
Speaker 1: But look, they need they wanted to make sure they're
Speaker 1: straight at the receive position. The Eagles look Johnny Wilson.
Speaker 1: I think Johnny Wilson is a rookie. Thank you's rookie.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry if he's not. But Matchie is a third
Speaker 1: year guy. He remember he missed his first year. Ohho
Speaker 1: he was dealing with thanks to the man above that
Speaker 1: he was able to beat that came back. But aj Davonte,
Speaker 1: Johann Dawson metchi. How soon can he pick up the system?
Speaker 1: He'll probably be the fourth wide out. And they had
Speaker 1: a you know you turned that into get John Mitchell
Speaker 1: on the sixth round pick Harrison Bryant. It's a second
Speaker 1: year okay, so we don't. So that's a guy that
Speaker 1: might not even made the roster. We end up getting
Speaker 1: a tight end that we need because one of our
Speaker 1: tight ends got hurt. He's gonna be gone for the season,
Speaker 1: and we pick up a fifth round pick, a guy
Speaker 1: that might not even made our roster, so we get
Speaker 1: a we get a need position and a pick from
Speaker 1: next year. According to Diana Rassini, the Bengals have been
Speaker 1: actively engaged in trade discussions surrounding Trey Hendrickson for weeks.
Speaker 1: According to the teams, they've reached out to Cincinnati only
Speaker 1: seeking draft capital in return. There all targeting defensive players
Speaker 1: and a potential deal. Last season, Hendrickson ranked first in
Speaker 1: sack first and pressure sixth in pressure rates thirty and
Speaker 1: haven't played second and tackle for losses the last two seasons.
Speaker 1: Off the field, hendricks a defense with him off the field, Ojoe,
Speaker 1: your thirty second, pressure rate thirty sets thirty second and
Speaker 1: success rate thirty second. In passer rating. When he's on
Speaker 1: the field, your top twelve and pressure rates top twelve
Speaker 1: and success rate top twelve and passer rating. I don't
Speaker 1: understand this. This is what I don't understand. You knew
Speaker 1: you weren't gonna play him. They knew that, Ojo. But
Speaker 1: what they thought he was gonna do what he did
Speaker 1: last year? Oh he'll come in. He told you he
Speaker 1: wasn't just like Chase said, if y'all pull that bull
Speaker 1: jive y'all did last year, I'm not coming in. He
Speaker 1: said he wasn't coming Yeah, y'all knew y'all wouldn't say.
Speaker 1: I don't understand that, Ojo. Why would you not move
Speaker 1: him before the draft and get somebody get a draft
Speaker 1: fan listen.
Speaker 2: I have no idea. I thought maybe I'm thinking maybe
Speaker 2: maybe Mike Brown, Katie Troy Duke understanding that Trey Henderson
Speaker 2: loves not just the team, but loves the game of football,
Speaker 2: and maybe he would fold at some point and come back.
Speaker 2: And obviously he's one that understands the business. And you
Speaker 2: got to hit while the fire is hot. You got
Speaker 2: to hit why the stove is hot, and this is
Speaker 2: his time, This is his time to hit based on
Speaker 2: what he's done, not just last year, but the previous
Speaker 2: year as well. But then you also look at from
Speaker 2: their viewpoint, well, hell, you had seventeen sacks last year,
Speaker 2: but our defense was horrible still.
Speaker 1: But you paid your quarterback and the offense was phenomenal.
Speaker 1: S right, this what Trey Ringo said. He said, let's
Speaker 1: recap the Bengals have a generational Hall of Fame quarterback.
Speaker 1: They paid their two top targets. Despite all this, they
Speaker 1: missed the playoffs last season because their defense was terrible.
Speaker 1: So how do they fix that by listening to trade
Speaker 1: offers for the best defensive player, unsigned defensive end trade Hendrickson.
Speaker 1: This is how management fails it's players. Kyle Brandt said,
Speaker 1: if the Bengals trade trade Hendrickson, it would just be
Speaker 1: the second time in the modern era that a player
Speaker 1: has led the NFL's in sack and to be traded
Speaker 1: the following season. The only other time that happened, Kansas
Speaker 1: City traded Hall of Famer Jared Allen to Minnesota in
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight. Allen was first team All Pro
Speaker 1: three times with the Vikings.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean the reports are saying that they are listening.
Speaker 2: They're listening to trade on listening to trade offers. So
Speaker 2: I'm hoping. I'm hoping.
Speaker 1: Oh, Joe, but you knew you weren't gonna pay him,
Speaker 1: He would have made it abundantly clear. You got so whatever.
Speaker 1: Y'all worked behind things. He's like, Okay, he came back. Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe if I get close there they see me there, Hey,
Speaker 1: we can engage again. They were unwilling he's not gonna
Speaker 1: take what you're gonna offer him. Seventeen and a half
Speaker 1: sacks and back to back years. There are not very
Speaker 1: many guys that's played since the sack became an official
Speaker 1: stat in nineteen eighty two has put together seventeen and
Speaker 1: a half sacks in back to back seasons. He's done that.
Speaker 1: I just don't know how you think you got, oh Joe,
Speaker 1: if you couldn't, if you couldn't stop anybody with him,
Speaker 1: who the hell you stopping without him? We saw last
Speaker 1: year Chase had the triple Crown, burrow led the league
Speaker 1: in what passing yard and passing touchdowns? And you missed
Speaker 1: the playoffs because your defense was atrocious? And what do
Speaker 1: you do? Clearly, the guy that's leaves years ahead of
Speaker 1: everybody on your defense, it's not even close. And remember,
Speaker 1: oh Joe, you you released Pratt?
Speaker 2: Yeah he wanted to deal as well to the Raiders.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, chat me listen. Yeah, it's the business.
Speaker 2: Understand how the business works. I think the Bengal see
Speaker 2: it is. We were very bad defensive last year with you.
Speaker 2: Why are we paying you this much money?
Speaker 1: You just got worse?
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, I mean you never know Shamar Stewart.
Speaker 2: What will Shamar Stewart be for us this year? He's
Speaker 2: a rookie. I'm not saying we're counting on a rookie
Speaker 2: to come in, but if he's good.
Speaker 1: If he does, how many rookies have ever had seventeen sacks?
Speaker 2: Saying I'm not saying he's gonna get seventeen Uh, I'm
Speaker 2: just saying the way the business works, paying you top dollar,
Speaker 2: and you're bringing a rookie that's on what who knows
Speaker 2: a minimal salary, minimal salary and could come in and contribute.
Speaker 2: He might not get seventeen sacks, but we'll do maybe
Speaker 2: not a good job of Trey Henderson, but be efficient.
Speaker 1: The most sacks ever by a rookie is Javon Cursed
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety nine. He had fourteen and a half.
Speaker 2: And I listen, no dishes. I'm not going to be
Speaker 2: this respectful.
Speaker 1: I don't no, yeah, I don't know. If you freakd
Speaker 1: we'll have to, but freak special. I played.
Speaker 2: Here's the real deal. He was a real deal. I'm excited, though,
Speaker 2: I mean I'm excited. I mean, listen, I don't know
Speaker 2: what's gonna happen. I don't think whatever does happen, our
Speaker 2: identity in Cincinnati. Our identity is our offense. And I
Speaker 2: said it. I said it, and I can say it again.
Speaker 2: I don't know what we're gonna do defensively, but we
Speaker 2: have to improve from last year. We don't need you
Speaker 2: to be the best defense in the world. We don't
Speaker 2: need need you to be the best. I just need
Speaker 2: to be wait, let me, let me definished. I just
Speaker 2: need to be somewhere in the middle of the pack
Speaker 2: fifteen sixteen, be able to make be able to make
Speaker 2: stops when it matters most. I don't need you to
Speaker 2: be number one. I don't really I don't need you
Speaker 2: to be number two. I don't need you to be three,
Speaker 2: four or five. I just need to meet us halfway,
Speaker 2: meet the offense halfway fifteen sixteen seventeen, somewhere around there,
Speaker 2: we're gonna be all right.
Speaker 1: If you had a pass or ten, if you had
Speaker 1: a single, if you had a salt gardener, you had
Speaker 1: a Ramsey, if you had one of those top guys,
Speaker 1: I can say, okay ojo, you can hold up a
Speaker 1: little long to get up outher, But y'all don't have
Speaker 1: that y'all best defensive player hands down, and it wasn't
Speaker 1: even close. It's Trey Henderson. O.
Speaker 2: Yo.
Speaker 1: You guys scored thirty eight and lose forty one thirty eight.
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, you guys go thirty five and lose thirty
Speaker 1: eight thirty five because you couldn't get off the field.
Speaker 2: Okay, not not With that being said.
Speaker 1: I don't know how you gonna improve. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you've made that big of an improvement defensively, even
Speaker 1: with Stuart, he would have to be curse Michaeh Aaron
Speaker 1: Donald lt. You's gonna have to have those kind of seat.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: You listen, you've been around again, You've been around the
Speaker 2: game for a long time. We've seen situations like this
Speaker 2: happened accur on many other teams. They don't feel he's
Speaker 2: worth the price tag that he's asking for. They've already
Speaker 2: paid te they've already played Chase, they played Joe. I mean,
Speaker 2: I mean, this is just he's the odd man out.
Speaker 2: He's a odd man out, and now they're listening to
Speaker 2: trade offers and.
Speaker 1: It's but you know, unless just well maybe if you
Speaker 1: trade him, well you can't trade it for Michael because
Speaker 1: you can't pay Michael. I'm trying to say who you
Speaker 1: can trade? Who can you trade him for? Because if
Speaker 1: you trade him just for a draft pick, you don't
Speaker 1: get nothing to help you this year, and you need help.
Speaker 2: This rewind that wind them right back.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: You just got me excited. You just got me excited.
Speaker 2: I don't know how much money is left over. I
Speaker 2: don't know anything. They can manipulate the camp and make
Speaker 2: it happen. Is there any way in this scenario we
Speaker 2: can get Michael Parsons?
Speaker 1: No, you gonna have three guys making over forty million
Speaker 1: on your roster.
Speaker 2: Hey, I like that. I like the way that sound.
Speaker 2: I like the way I just listen.
Speaker 1: You want to trade here? You won't even pay Trey
Speaker 1: Henderson thirty million, but you're gonna give Michael Parsons forty
Speaker 1: three for that?
Speaker 2: You can ask your question? Yeah, hold of Trey Henderson?
Speaker 1: Asked? Asked?
Speaker 2: Hold of trade?
Speaker 1: I was trade thirty two thirty?
Speaker 2: Hold is Michael Parsons twenty five?
Speaker 1: He came out early, so he might be twenty six?
Speaker 2: Ask me that question again. Would they pay him forty three?
Speaker 1: No? They wouldn't, they would.
Speaker 2: I can ask, right, now I can call I can
Speaker 2: call personnel right now on the phone.
Speaker 1: And they're not paying. They're not there. First of all,
Speaker 1: they're not paying a fifty five million dollar quarterback, a
Speaker 1: forty three forty five million dollar defensive player, a forty
Speaker 1: one million dollar wide receiver, and a thirty million dollar
Speaker 1: wide receiver. They're not having that. They're not paying that.
Speaker 1: Hold on, I was you know what they just oht yo,
Speaker 1: y'all just started spending money two years ago with borrow.
Speaker 1: Think about all the great players that you guys have
Speaker 1: had that have left.
Speaker 2: Right, I'm gonna I'm gonna call somebody upstairs. It's hypothetical.
Speaker 2: I want to I'm gonna see what they say. Damn,
Speaker 2: I like that. That's that's crazy.
Speaker 1: DJ Hill, Chris Jenkins. I don't know, yo, Damn, y'all
Speaker 1: might be with y'all might be in the same situation.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think so. Hey, I have a question.
Speaker 2: Would it be rude if I called Zach and asked that?
Speaker 2: That's rude? Huh?
Speaker 1: You ask whatever you want to ask him.
Speaker 2: That's not that's not offensive, right, It's just just a
Speaker 2: regular question, regular question for what that Zach Taylor. If
Speaker 2: I if I if I if, I if I call him?
Speaker 1: Ask?
Speaker 2: Is that rude?
Speaker 1: You can ask whatever you want to oyo, we'll sit
Speaker 1: right here and watch. Wait. I don't know if the
Speaker 1: Chad believe you call it him? But oh sure, well yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm texting. Look can you see that? Un I said,
Speaker 1: I said, coach, are you up?
Speaker 2: I want to make sure yup? I don't want to call.
Speaker 2: It's twelve o'clock. They play tomorrow, so I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's twelve nineteen. They playing in d C. What what's
Speaker 2: what's what's the time difference in DC?
Speaker 1: Dallas is on Central time, DC is on Eastern time.
Speaker 2: So, oh, it's twelve nineteen. I call EB. You know EB?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: No, every ball no, but every ball played with with
Speaker 2: the bangles when you was playing with well, David, I think, yeah,
Speaker 2: but David Vulture yeah dB no no wait running I
Speaker 2: think everybody might have been running back. I think you
Speaker 2: probably know, you probably know when you see him, even
Speaker 2: he's been over there since since I was there, before
Speaker 2: I got there. Yeah, everybody, yeah, yeah, part of player
Speaker 2: I forgot. I don't know how to pronounce.
Speaker 1: The what are community like? Community relations?
Speaker 2: Guys? Yeah, I think his his Oh here to play
Speaker 2: a person in the probably it might be some probably
Speaker 2: something like that, something like that, something like that, but