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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: That's right, FNA. Kevin figures Adam Austin back again on

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 3: As Magic Johnson once said, back to back. Yeah, so

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Speaker 3: not I'll be going pro.

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Speaker 4: Yeah no, not that, Okay, back to back like for

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Speaker 4: Jordan ninety six, ninety seven and ninety eight. Here this

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Speaker 4: is a three peat, three weeks in a row on

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Speaker 4: a Friday night, FNA on FSR.

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Speaker 3: Thank you guys for joining us.

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Speaker 3: Got a lot to get into tonight coming up later.

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Speaker 3: Are good close personal friend James Cole, fantasy football expert,

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Speaker 3: will be here that time of year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is when fantasy football championships are won. Right now,

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Speaker 4: you better draft correctly. But before we get to anything else.

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Speaker 2: Before we do, you know, before we get to anything else,

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Speaker 2: I want to bring this up. So we talked about

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Speaker 2: this off the air. So we're in our Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio studios here in Shermanhos, California, and looking up at

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Speaker 2: our TVs and the Kansas City Chiefs Bears preseason game,

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Speaker 2: the replay is up, and so a few minutes ago

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Speaker 2: over like can midway through the third quarter or something,

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Speaker 2: and they panned the crowd, and I see all these

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Speaker 2: fans doing the wave. And now I was only one

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Speaker 2: who thought that it was only Dodger fans who got

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Speaker 2: bored in the sixth inning when they just got there

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Speaker 2: in the fourth inning who started doing the wave.

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Speaker 4: And then the beach balls start coming out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, two of my giant pet peeves.

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Speaker 2: And all of a sudden, I see Arrowhead Stadium or

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Speaker 2: whatever it's called now, and they're doing the waves the

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Speaker 2: entire stadium all.

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Speaker 3: The way around.

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Speaker 2: No, granted is twenty seven to ten or whatever the

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Speaker 3: But come on, for those who don't know, you already

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Speaker 3: don't like the wave? Correct? Hey do you hate the

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Speaker 3: Kansas City Chief?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 5: Huh?

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Speaker 3: So it's already consumed me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm on the dark side I concentration of hate.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you're gonna be able to listen

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Speaker 4: to Obi Wan on this one.

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Speaker 3: Heart Let that hate out.

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Speaker 2: No, Obi Wan's disappeared. I've already hit him with the

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Speaker 2: lightsaber and he's turned into whatever. And I you know

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Speaker 2: mysterious spirit now at this point in time, can't stand

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs, certainly cannot stand the Kansas City Chiefs and

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Speaker 2: their fans doing the damn wave.

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Speaker 4: Can you give us a little bit because I can

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Speaker 4: understand why you hate the Chiefs your Raiders fan, But

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Speaker 4: what's the backstory on hating the wave?

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Speaker 3: Like, oh, it's pretty simple. Hate the dolphins too, or

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Speaker 3: the ocean or echo. The Dolphin was one of my

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Speaker 3: favorite video games back in the days.

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Speaker 6: I got nothing.

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Speaker 2: I got nothing against the dolphins or porpoises or anything

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Speaker 2: like that. Here's my issue. Let me ask you a question.

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Speaker 2: Why do you go to a sporting event to watch

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Speaker 2: the game? Okay, so you don't go to a sporting

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Speaker 2: event to stand up and wave your arms and that crazy?

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Speaker 3: For no reason?

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Speaker 7: Is it?

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Speaker 4: Because people get in your way and obstruct your view?

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Speaker 4: And as a kid, that happened and you miss some

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Speaker 4: big critical run at one point.

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Speaker 3: Not necessarily okay, although it doesn't help.

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Speaker 2: If I'm sitting there actually trying to enjoy the game

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Speaker 2: why and there's two to one and eighth inning?

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Speaker 3: Why are you doing the wave? Pay attention to the

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Speaker 3: game on the field.

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Speaker 4: Baseball is a game of anticipation, and sometimes there's heavy,

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Speaker 4: heavy anticipation where nothing is happening for an hour, Kevin,

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Speaker 4: and people just want to get up and stretch a

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Speaker 4: little bit.

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Speaker 1: Not anymore.

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Speaker 2: Well, first of all, that's why they have to say anything. Stretch,

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Speaker 2: all right, get up the stretch of the seven guinea stretch.

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Speaker 3: You can't always wait for that.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Joe, the wave was invented back before we had

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Speaker 4: pitch clocks.

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Speaker 3: Just saying no, I mean, these games used to be

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Speaker 2: You're not wrong about that, but I would say, especially

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Speaker 2: now that the pitch clock is in, there's no need

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Speaker 2: for you to do the wave. All right, there's twenty

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Speaker 2: some odd seconds between pitches. What's the point doing the way?

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Speaker 4: You're gonna go around as an usher and just will

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Speaker 4: just lay down on people that are doing the wave

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Speaker 4: and just no, yeah, yes, shame. It shouldn't be like

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Speaker 4: the Shange Service, like jumping in front of a president

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Speaker 4: that's being assassinated. It's gonna be Kevin jumping in front

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Speaker 4: of people doing the wave. Yeah, I'm gonna be the

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Speaker 4: the official sit your ass down guy. That is why hey,

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Speaker 4: sit down, you sit sit down, sit down, sit down.

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Speaker 3: This ain't the beach they can they pay me for that?

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Speaker 3: Is that a job? I don't know. I kind of

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Speaker 3: like it. It's they sign me up.

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Speaker 4: Kevin might be onto something here. You may be moonlighting

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Speaker 4: at Dodger Stadium very soon here or the Big A.

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Speaker 3: Sure.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean there's there's empty seats there, so there's

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Speaker 2: really no one to tell the sit to go to

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Speaker 2: go to Anaheim for what reason?

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Speaker 4: Speaking of empty seats, there were some out there, as

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Speaker 4: you mentioned, because it's preseason football. Those seats will be

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Speaker 4: filled soon. But until then, why don't we get the

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Speaker 4: first off?

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Speaker 3: That's wrong?

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Speaker 2: By the way, I will say before we move on

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Speaker 2: to first off, I will say, I understand if it's

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Speaker 2: a blowout, sure, and you don't want to leave, maybe

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Speaker 2: I will relent a little bit on the waves. Still

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Speaker 2: not a fan of it. I'm more understanding of it

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Speaker 2: in that situation. But Adam, I'm not lying to you.

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Speaker 2: I have been to Dodger games where they have been

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Speaker 2: seventh inning, and people are doing the wave and throwing.

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Speaker 3: Beach balls all over the place.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I just don't you sound like Shooter McGavin

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Speaker 4: in the first Happy gal More?

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Speaker 3: Is this a rock concert? He says, golf. He's right,

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Speaker 3: He's absolutely right.

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Speaker 4: Get off my lawn, get off my wave, shake your

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Speaker 2: Don't get me started on these all these throwback jerseys

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Speaker 2: and color rush jerseys and all that give me traditional,

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Speaker 2: give me Penn State white helmet and blue jerseys with

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Speaker 2: no names on the back.

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Speaker 4: Well, we started this off by you asking me a question. Yes,

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Speaker 4: now I want to ask you a question. What are

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Speaker 4: the headlines here?

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Speaker 5: Ken?

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Speaker 7: What are the headlines on the announcement to starting quarterback?

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Speaker 3: All so funny that you asked Adam?

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Speaker 2: So the big headline I think coming out of this

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Speaker 2: week has to be what's happening in Indianapolis with Daniel

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Speaker 2: Jones being named the starting quarterback over Anthony Richardson, who

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Speaker 2: just a couple of years ago was the fourth overall

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Speaker 2: pick in the draft, who had all this potential in

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Speaker 2: the world. Now, all of a sudden, he feels like

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Speaker 2: a jilted lover. He's sitting on the bench.

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Speaker 4: Some people were pearl clutching about Daniel Jones getting the

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Speaker 4: starting nod heading into week one. They made that decision.

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Speaker 4: The same guys who drafted Anthony Richardson. By the way

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Speaker 4: trail their tail.

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Speaker 3: Between their legs.

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Speaker 4: They are admitting fault and saying, we're trying to save

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Speaker 4: our jobs and we think the best way to do

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Speaker 4: that is to play Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 3: Well, we're just saying something. Are they okay?

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Speaker 2: Are they admitting fault though, or are Look there's a

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Speaker 2: couple of things working against them. So Anthony Richardson played

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Speaker 2: a little bit as a rookie, they ended up getting injured,

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Speaker 2: came on the comeback trail, admittedly didn't have the right

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Speaker 2: kind of work ethic. There was even a couple of

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Speaker 2: games last year where he got benched and he was healthy,

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Speaker 2: and Shane stiken said they benched him because he just

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Speaker 2: didn't have the right preparation throughout the week. So they're trying,

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Speaker 2: to your point, at this point in time, they're trying

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Speaker 2: to find a way to save their jobs the best

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Speaker 2: way they possibly can. They being the general manager Chris

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Speaker 2: Ballard and the head coach Shane Stikeen. It doesn't mean

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Speaker 2: that they don't like Anthony Richardson, but the progression just

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Speaker 2: hasn't been what they expected it to be, and I

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Speaker 2: think the injury part of it is a huge deal.

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Speaker 2: But I don't necessarily think that the Colts are the

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Speaker 2: bad guy or that they're tucking their tail between their legs.

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Speaker 2: They're just saying, like, look, this guy just ain't ready yet,

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Speaker 2: and we are not secure enough in our jobs, especially

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Speaker 2: with ownership being what it is now that Jim Mersey

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Speaker 2: with ownership, and I don't think they know that. So

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Speaker 2: they're just trying to do the best job they can

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Speaker 2: to try to win football games, and they think Daniel Jones,

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Speaker 2: the veteran, gives them a better chance than Anthony Richardson,

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Speaker 2: who's been woefully inconsistent.

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Speaker 4: Self preservation is kind of a big deal in life,

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Speaker 4: and they're going with the guy with the higher floor

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Speaker 4: rather than the guy with maybe the higher ceiling. That

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Speaker 4: seems safe. That seems like a safe bet. Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 4: If you watched him in the preseason, he did make

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Speaker 4: some nice throws. He has a ton of experience relative

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Speaker 4: to Anthony Richardson at this level. He has won a

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Speaker 4: playoff game, and I mean he won that playoff game

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Speaker 4: for them against Minnesota with the New York Giants.

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Speaker 3: That was all him, his arm and his legs.

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Speaker 4: Daniel Jones was phenomenal in that game a couple of

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Speaker 4: years ago.

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Speaker 3: Was that an outliar for him?

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Speaker 4: Yes, was absolutely, But that's still more experience than Anthony

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Speaker 4: Richardson has had.

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Speaker 3: And listen to this.

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's that crazy of a move when

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Speaker 4: you look at some of the statistics out there. I

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Speaker 4: got this from Law Murray of the Athletic who covers

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Speaker 4: the end of Disambia. This is how much this story

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Speaker 4: transcended this week, this quarterback controversy. I guess Anthony Richardson

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Speaker 4: versus Daniel Jones. The quarterbacks since nineteen ninety nine to

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Speaker 4: attempt at least two hundred and forty passes in a

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Speaker 4: season and fail to complete half of them. Achille Smith

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Speaker 4: in two thousand, JaMarcus.

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Speaker 3: Russell, I knew he was going to be on there

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Speaker 3: in two thousand and nine.

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Speaker 2: I have witnessed all of those passes, so I knew

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Speaker 2: he was going to be on that list.

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Speaker 4: Tim Tebow in twenty eleven and Anthony Richardson in twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty four.

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Speaker 3: That is damning. How about this?

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Speaker 4: There are fifty five quarterbacks that have had at least

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Speaker 4: one hundred and seventy five attempts over the last two

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Speaker 4: years in the NFL. Anthony Richardson ranks fifty fifth out

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Speaker 4: of fifty five inaccuracy, fifty fifth out of fifty five

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Speaker 4: in completion rate, fiftieth out of fifty five in touchdown

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Speaker 3: He's not ready. He's not there yet.

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Speaker 2: Do you know how difficult it is to complete under

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Speaker 2: fifty percent of your passes in the NFL in twenty

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Speaker 4: And I'm not saying like he's twenty three years of

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Speaker 4: They do call him the white Vick.

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Speaker 2: Now do you remember that micro Vick's on a trip

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Speaker 4: That was not part of the Michael Vick Experience commercial.

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Speaker 2: But it makes all the sense in the role that

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Speaker 3: It doesn't mean his career in Indianapolis is over.

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Speaker 2: Who's to say that Daniel Jones doesn't struggle this year

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Speaker 4: Somebody else that has to improve. And who did play

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Speaker 2: Miss wide open guys who weren't being defended, So that's good. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Now, Caleb Williams, he started this game off very poorly

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Speaker 3: Held the ball too long and got sacked again.

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Speaker 3: That has been a story. But my problem is.

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Speaker 4: So he struggles early against first team guys.

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Speaker 4: Does it matter level of competition?

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Speaker 4: Now, so it seemed a little bit overdone, like people

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I think I'm getting over it. Well, sid

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Speaker 4: I was just starting of somebody who got royded up

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Speaker 3: I did some more value for running back.

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Speaker 4: get guys in space, get your athletes in space. That's

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Speaker 4: what Ben Johnson is good at scheming. Yes, he did

447
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Speaker 4: it with Jared Goff. He can elevate lesser talent. I

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Speaker 4: do believe that's the biggest piece that can change things

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Speaker 4: for Caleb Williams. Because I'm being hard on him. I

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Speaker 4: understand he has the arm talent, he has the ability,

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Speaker 4: but he makes some low IQ decisions out there because

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Speaker 4: he thinks he can throw himself out of trouble. Sometimes

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Speaker 4: he's got some of that Brett fav in him where

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Speaker 4: he takes far too many risks. We saw it in

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Speaker 4: Southern California for USC for years, and tonight was another

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Speaker 4: example against the first team defense of the Kansas City Chiefs.

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Speaker 4: How are you gonna hold onto the ball for six

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Speaker 4: seconds and not make a pass? Your offensive line did

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Speaker 4: their job. Scody's got to be open in six seconds.

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Speaker 3: Or takeoff or run, just go.

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Speaker 2: If you said you talking about Michael Vick earlier, Michael

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Speaker 2: Vicker drove back for a quarter of a second and

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Speaker 2: take off. Yeah, I'd almost rady that. Then just sit

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Speaker 2: in the pocket and run in certains and think get sacked.

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Speaker 4: His first big play was a run to the left

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Speaker 4: when Ben Johnson had the defense thinking it was going

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Speaker 4: right right like it's scheme is strategy. He is an

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Speaker 4: offensive mastermind. If I'm a Bears fan, That's what I'm

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Speaker 4: holding onto right now.

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Speaker 2: About a Bears fan, I'm actually fairly optimistic. I have

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Speaker 2: faith in Ben Johnson has an offensive play caller. Now,

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Speaker 2: from a head coaching standpoint, we'll see, But as far

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Speaker 2: as his fingerprints on the offense and the talent that

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Speaker 2: they have around Caleb Williams, I'm actually a believer.

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Speaker 3: Now, does that mean they're gonna win fourteen games? No?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely not.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: How far are you going with this belief.

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Speaker 2: In the conversation for a playoff spot by the time

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Speaker 2: we get to Christmas?

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Speaker 4: I'll say that that's fair. Yeah, I like that. That's

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Speaker 4: going out on a limb a little bit considering how

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Speaker 4: much they struggled last season. Now I'll say this, the

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Speaker 4: numbers actually look better. For how much Caleb Williams has

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Speaker 4: been scrutinized for his performance and his rookie season. The

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Speaker 4: numbers aren't that bad, right, The record wasn't great and

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Speaker 4: he still made some bad decisions out there, but I'm

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Speaker 4: not giving up on him yet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of being SCRUTINWS, we gotta get out of

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Speaker 2: here before bree rips our heads off. So we are

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Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Kevin figures

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Speaker 2: Adam alson here on Fox Sports Saturday. Coming up next, Oh, Jerry,

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Speaker 2: Jerry versus Micah Parsons continues and Jerry is just doing

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Speaker 2: his media tour, so we'll get into that in a

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Speaker 2: little bit more. Coming up next, Fox Sports Saturday, Kevin

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Speaker 4: A takeover of FSR. He's Kevin Figures. I'm out of Moslin,

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Speaker 4: gonna be with you guys, third week in a row.

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Speaker 2: You hit us up on the socials by the way,

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Speaker 2: at kfig one is where you can find me on X.

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Speaker 3: Adam is at follow Adam a on X. We do

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Speaker 3: have some I guess they're not called tweets anymore. What

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Speaker 3: would you call them nowadays? Posts? You wouldn't called them.

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Speaker 2: Some of my exes were hitting me up because that's

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Speaker 2: definitely going to ignore and mute and delete.

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Speaker 3: So no axes. So what exactly do I call these

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Speaker 3: coming in? Exactly? They're just replies.

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Speaker 2: They're posts, replies posts, Mary generic Eloy and Compton. Hey Kevin,

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Speaker 2: please tell me you ain't worried after seeing the Chiefs

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Speaker 2: first three drives on Friday Night, mahomes and then offense

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Speaker 2: will be awesome this year. Can't wait to sweep your

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Speaker 2: sorry ass Raiders lol, laughing crying emoji. You know what, Eloy,

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Speaker 2: You're probably right. It probably will sleep the Raiders. I

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Speaker 2: can't deny that.

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Speaker 3: I'll wait a second.

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Speaker 4: Do you have to change your pick of who you

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Speaker 4: have winning the AFC West Holmes look tonight?

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Speaker 8: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely not, Okay, I'm still rolling with the Los Angeles

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Speaker 2: Chargers to I guess upset the world? Are you to

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Speaker 2: win the AFC West because nobody else sees it coming

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Speaker 2: other than me?

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Speaker 3: Are you ten toes down?

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Speaker 4: Though? Are you just like eight or nine toes down

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Speaker 4: now on that prediction? All toes down, ten toes down,

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Speaker 4: all ten fingers down. I'm all, I'm ready to go.

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Speaker 4: Somebody else is saying Dodger fans are the most annoying

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Speaker 4: waivers in my honest opinion. I mean, then they top

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Speaker 4: it off by playing that lame I love LA's song

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Speaker 4: and I'm from LA and wish they do better.

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Speaker 3: That would be nature boy on you have to hate on,

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Speaker 3: you know, Randy Newman.

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Speaker 2: Their nature boy, Nature boy hit me up too, saying

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Speaker 2: the Raiders need to top to your quarterback and they're

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Speaker 2: still working on it, with a photo of JaMarcus russ Well,

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Speaker 2: I don't need that, nature Boy.

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Speaker 3: That's messed up. Man, don't eat that memory.

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Speaker 2: You guys want to hit us up, hit us up

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Speaker 2: at KFIG one and that follow out of may on

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Speaker 2: X and I guess if you're good enough, We're read

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Speaker 2: your tweets and your messages on the air.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if the Cowboys are gonna be good

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Speaker 4: enough defensively. If they don't have Micah Parsons for a

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Speaker 4: week one.

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Speaker 3: I'll let you win on a secret at him. They

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Speaker 3: not gonna be good enough.

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Speaker 4: If he is there, okay, fair enough, So Dak Prescott

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Speaker 4: could be a really good fantasy quarterback, then absolutely, I'll

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Speaker 4: put it like that because I don't know if they're

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Speaker 4: gonna have a great running game. I don't know if

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Speaker 4: they're gonna have a good defense. They're gonna have to

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Speaker 4: put up a lot of points throwing the football. Speaking

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Speaker 4: of fantasy football, guru James co will join us in

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Speaker 4: the next hour, but Jerry Jones is still talking. He

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Speaker 4: was one of the first subjects we had doing this

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Speaker 4: show on Fox Sports Radio and he's back, and you know,

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Speaker 4: at first, I thought like, maybe this is about the

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Speaker 4: contract negotiation and just Jerry being Jerry with Micah Parsons,

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Speaker 4: And I thought, is Jerry Jones peaking as Jerry Jones?

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Speaker 4: This is this fully actualized Jerry Jones here, Kevin. Is

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Speaker 4: he still finding himself? Is he going to Thailand to

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Speaker 4: find himself?

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Speaker 3: Like he's in White.

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Speaker 4: Lotus or something like. That's what I thought at first,

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Speaker 4: And this is just par for the course. Now I'm

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Speaker 4: kind of thinking it's getting personal here.

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Speaker 3: This is a little bit.

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Speaker 4: This is more than just any other contract negotiation he's had.

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Speaker 3: Jerry's going on this giant media tour now.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure it's to promote the documentary, which I don't

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Speaker 2: know if you've seen any of I've saw the first episode.

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen any of the others of the Dallas

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Speaker 2: Cowboy documentary on Netflix.

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Speaker 3: It's ten parts.

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Speaker 4: You know, I have trouble commitment issues committing to a

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Speaker 4: ten part documentary. It was different when it was the

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Speaker 4: last dance during COVID because there was not much to

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Speaker 4: it was nothing to do with it was that in

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Speaker 4: the Tiger King all day.

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Speaker 2: But this is this is totally this is one at

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Speaker 2: a time, Adam. You don't have to been to the

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Speaker 2: entire series in one night.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well a lot.

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Speaker 4: I heard the San Francisco forty nine ers are featured

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Speaker 4: a lot in one of the episodes. Yeah, and you

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Speaker 4: know I hate them, so that reason I might have

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Speaker 4: to wait on this.

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Speaker 3: There you go.

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Speaker 2: So Jerry Jones making the media rounds, and obviously the

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Speaker 2: topic is your other than the documentary is Micah Parsons

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Speaker 2: and his contract situation and Jerry. The SoundBite that made

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Speaker 2: a lot of waves earlier this week was talking about

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Speaker 2: the negotiation between Jerry and Michaeh Parson's agent and what

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Speaker 2: Michael Parson's agent thought of the offer.

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Speaker 11: We wanted to send the details to the agent the agent,

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Speaker 11: Soldiers Topper asked, well, we got this theory resolved in

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Speaker 11: my mind for the dollars cowboys.

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Speaker 3: Huh, but you don't say so.

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Speaker 2: You're trying to go around the agent again, Like we

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Speaker 2: talked about this before, go around the agent and negotiate

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Speaker 2: directly with Parsons. And the agent is the one who

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Speaker 2: has to sign off on it. Now, look, he doesn't

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Speaker 2: necessarily have to. But that is his job as an

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Speaker 2: NFLPA certified agent.

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Speaker 3: That's why he's there. If that's if that.

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Speaker 2: Was the case, Adam and Michael Parson just wants to

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Speaker 2: negotiate on his own, which.

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Speaker 3: He could do.

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Speaker 2: He could Russell Okum did it for his entire career.

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Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson's mom is like his business manager. But he

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Speaker 2: technically doesn't have an agent. You can work without an

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Speaker 2: agent if you will, if you want to, but he

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Speaker 2: has one go through the proper channels. And to make

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Speaker 2: it seem as if there's some issue with the agent

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Speaker 2: of the agent is being hoity toity in this situation

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Speaker 2: with the Jerry Jones.

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Speaker 3: That's the part that doesn't sit well with me.

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Speaker 4: He thought he had some good old fashioned handshake deal

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Speaker 4: with Michaeh. Parsons back in April through the back door,

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Speaker 4: going through the back door, well clandestine style. Then the

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Speaker 4: agent hears about that. Maybe Michael Parsons was good with it,

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Speaker 4: Maybe they had a verbal agreement. There is such a thing.

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Speaker 4: The problem is you go to court over a verbal

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Speaker 4: agreement and then you get the details on what was

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Speaker 4: said if there was no recording like that is such

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Speaker 4: a difficult thing to prove, but a handshake deal like this,

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Speaker 4: it just makes me think his agent got in Michaeh

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Speaker 4: Parson's ear. And even though Michael Parsons was initially okay

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Speaker 4: with this, with Jerry Jones and him just hammering this

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Speaker 4: thing out by themselves, eventually the agent said, now, I

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Speaker 4: don't know we can get more money, come my way,

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Speaker 4: little devil on the shoulder. This is how we're gonna

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Speaker 4: do things. And that third person interfering here is the

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Speaker 4: hold up.

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Speaker 2: Ultimately, Yeah, and look, I mean the agent has an

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Speaker 2: agenda too. Let's say, yes, he's trying to act in

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Speaker 2: the best interest of his client, but he's also trying

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Speaker 2: to act in the best interests of other clients. I

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Speaker 2: don't know what other past rushers he has is clients

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Speaker 2: for him.

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Speaker 4: He's getting a percentage of whatever Parsons gets. So the

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Speaker 4: big of the contract, the more he's making.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So, and not only that, if Parson signs a big contract,

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Speaker 2: we already seen the market for defensive ends or pass rushers,

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00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 2: however you want to classify them. The barget raised this

667
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 2: offseason because Max Crosby got paid and you know, a

668
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 2: couple Trey Henderson is trying to get paid from Cincinnati.

669
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 2: That's what he's looking for as a higher guarantee. He's

670
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 2: not getting that yet.

671
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 3: TJ.

672
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 2: Watt got a massive contract, and the problem is Michael

673
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 2: Parsons and the Dallas Cowboys. They could have inked this

674
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 2: deal before any of those deals were happening, and Dallas

675
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 2: actually would have been in the better for it, because

676
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 2: Parsons probably would have inked for less.

677
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 3: Than what those guys made.

678
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 2: But now that he's waited after the fact, his number

679
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 2: is only going to be more and more expensive.

680
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 4: He doesn't have a lot of leverage here either. And

681
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 4: Jerry Jones pointed this out.

682
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 3: It's true.

683
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:50,400
Speaker 4: The problem is he's under contract this season and then

684
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 4: you could franchise him the next two years.

685
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,919
Speaker 2: I will say the franchise number is gonna end up

686
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 2: biting the Cowboys because that tag number is going to

687
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 2: go up. It's based on the average of the top

688
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 2: five player paid players at that position, and again, three

689
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 2: of the top five paid players got their new contracts

690
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 2: this offseason.

691
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 3: But it number is gonna fire up.

692
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 4: Kick the can down the road for them to figure

693
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:16,479
Speaker 4: it out later and maybe at some point Parsons gives

694
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,120
Speaker 4: in because I don't know if Jerry's gonna budge right now.

695
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 4: Now this getting personal to this degree. That's the part

696
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 4: that makes this standout from other situations where we try

697
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 4: to parallel this with Dak before with CD lamb.

698
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 3: Now it's like, oh he told him stick it.

699
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 2: Where like this is getting bad well personal as we

700
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 2: think it might be. Jerry Jones says that he appreciates

701
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 2: Michael more than anybody.

702
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 11: Nobody appreciates Michael Parson anymore than the Cowboys or me, nobody,

703
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 11: nobody has ever offered him more money than I haven't

704
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 11: played football period.

705
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, of course you're gonna offer more money,

706
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 2: But is the right amount, is at the right length

707
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 2: we are the right guarantees?

708
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 4: Is the right offset language in there? See the problem

709
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 4: the agent is looking at is I don't know.

710
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, you could have a verbal agreement, but no disrespect

711
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 2: to Micah or anybody who's not a lawyer or an agent.

712
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 2: Do you know what you're reading through those fifty stacks

713
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 2: of papers and what you're signing on for.

714
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 3: Jerry could tell you a bunch of stuff.

715
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 2: All of a sudden you suffer an injury, and all

716
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 2: of a sudden, you know you signed Thatt's say, one

717
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty five million dollars in eighty of it's guaranteed,

718
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 2: but only thirty of it's guaranteed for injury, when you

719
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 2: could have gott it seventy guaranteed for injury. That's Those

720
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 2: are the minute details that are very important. That might

721
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 2: and I'm not saying this is the case. I'm just

722
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 2: making up an arbitrary, you know, situation, but that might

723
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 2: be the case for Micah. His agent wants to make

724
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 2: sure that Jerry Jones and the Cowboys aren't trying to

725
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 2: pull the wall over his eyes.

726
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 4: The part of this that still feels confounding, though, is

727
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 4: the fact that you have a player this young, this good,

728
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 4: he technically hasn't hit his prime years yet. This is

729
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 4: the type of guy you should pay. And I'll point

730
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 4: this out. Micah Parsons already has fifty two and a

731
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 4: half sacks and four seasons, the most saxon NFL history

732
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 4: Before a player he turns twenty seven, he's still twenty six.

733
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 4: JJ Watt seventy four and a half, Miles Garrett seventy two,

734
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 4: Reggie White seventy, the late great Derek Thomas sixty six,

735
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 4: von Miller with sixty, Joey Bosa with fifty eight, Jared

736
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 4: Allen with fifty seven and a half, Bruce Smith with

737
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 4: fifty seven and a half, Nick Bosa with fifty seven.

738
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 4: He's right behind some of the best ever.

739
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 2: I mean, all those guys, with the exception of the

740
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,719
Speaker 2: Bosa brothers, are sure fire Hall of famers.

741
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 4: Well, we're talking about guys that aged well, yeah, that

742
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 4: after the age of twenty six continued into prime years.

743
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 4: That's the trajectory that Micah Parsons is on. You want

744
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,719
Speaker 4: to pay this guy, But I'm afraid now, if you're

745
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 4: a Dallas Cowboys fan, it has gotten to the point

746
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 4: where Jerry's so dug in and so obstinate about it,

747
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 4: that is going to be a problem that could bleed

748
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 4: into Week one.

749
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 3: Honestly.

750
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I guess if you wanted to make a statement,

751
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 2: if you're Micah, you could set out a couple of

752
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 2: regular season games. You're gonna end up losing money, but

753
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 2: it could be one of those look what you look

754
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 2: like without me situations.

755
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 3: That's your leverage.

756
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 2: He's not gonna sit out the entire season, because if

757
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 2: he does, we're right back in this exactly the same situation.

758
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 2: He's not gonna get paid a dime for this year.

759
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 2: He's going to be operating under the exact same contract

760
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,719
Speaker 2: as he's operating under right now, or would be operating

761
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 2: under right now.

762
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 4: And he showed up to training camp, which is a

763
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 4: no no hold in, and it just seemed like he

764
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 4: wanted to be one of the guys.

765
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I can't get away from football. I can't

766
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 3: get away from my guys.

767
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 4: I don't know if he's the type that would sit

768
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 4: out and lose that money and watch his team suffer

769
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 4: because of it.

770
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 2: Well, he looked good to me walking in earlier tonight

771
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 2: with the the what was it French fries or nachos

772
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 2: or something.

773
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 3: He's walking in.

774
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 2: There in Atlanta, laying down on the trainer's table like

775
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 2: he doesn't have a care in the world.

776
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 4: I heard there was extra cheese on those nachas because

777
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 4: he wants a little extra chedder in this contract.

778
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 2: I'm sure now here the issue is too for the Cowboys.

779
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 2: They don't necessarily have the easiest schedule, so I'm thinking

780
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 2: if they get off to a slow start and say

781
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 2: Micah isn't there, And by the way, even if he is, there.

782
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 2: He hasn't been in practice padded practices. I know people

783
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 2: try to poopoo the preseason. Not to steal a line

784
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 2: from Rob Parker, but getting some live contact does matter,

785
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 2: especially for a position like that. What if he needs

786
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 2: a game or two or three or four to get

787
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 2: his legs under him. I'm looking at the start of

788
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 2: their schedule. It's not necessarily super daunting, but it's not easy.

789
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 2: You have the opener against the Eagles, then you have

790
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 2: the Giants. All right, fine, that's probably a cake walk, Bears, Packers, Jets.

791
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 2: I don't think the Bears and the Packers are necessarily easy.

792
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 2: You get off to a slow start, it could be

793
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 2: hard to recover because then look at this at him,

794
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 2: look at after their bye week. Now they have the Raiders,

795
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 2: which I mean, who could be more difficult than that,

796
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 2: the Raiders in Vegas. But followed by this is after

797
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 2: their buy so there's no breaks after this. Eagles, Chiefs, Lions, Vikings, Chargers.

798
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 2: Then you're at Washington. Then you end the season at

799
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 2: the Giants. That is Murderer's row the last month and

800
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 2: a half of the season, so they have to stack

801
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 2: wins early. As with Chelle, you get him where you can,

802
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 2: and if you don't have one of your best players,

803
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 2: you buy far your best defensive player out there, that

804
00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 2: could be a huge detriment to you.

805
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 4: The other here is, and we talked about this initially

806
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 4: with this standoff, is I'm not sure how committed Jerry

807
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 4: Jones is to winning in the first place. I still

808
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 4: think his super Bowl is being the most talked about

809
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 4: franchise in sports, regardless of wins and losses. The top

810
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 4: of the mountain for him is being the biggest brand

811
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 4: and doing so while they haven't won the Super Bowl

812
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 4: since nineteen ninety six. Like that is the feather in

813
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 4: his cafe he cares about most. And then it's the microphone,

814
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 4: the camera in his face. That's his bluep shoe. That's

815
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 4: what Jerry Jones wants. Just give me a microphone and

816
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 4: a camera. I bet he goes home, watches himself, dissects

817
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 4: the tape, makes some adjustments for the next time he's

818
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 4: in front of the camera. This is what Jerry Jones

819
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 4: cares about. And the more Micah Parsons is sitting on

820
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 4: the sidelines and not on the field, the more attention

821
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 4: he gets.

822
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 2: I do agree that Jerry Jones does crave the attention,

823
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 2: does want the attention. I don't believe that he wants

824
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 2: it more or cares about it more than winning, but

825
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 2: I do think that it's top of the priority list.

826
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 4: I'll say that there is a soap opera element to

827
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 4: the Dallas Cowboys. And just like in soap operas where

828
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 4: you have that trope where somebody has been been in

829
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 4: a coma for a long time, you could have been

830
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 4: in a coma from nineteen ninety six until now and

831
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 4: not have missed the Cowboys winning the Super Bowl.

832
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:20,839
Speaker 3: That's how bad it's been.

833
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 2: Speaking of bad, the NFL obviously had some issues to

834
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 2: this offseason in the PA with collusion. Could that be

835
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,800
Speaker 2: another potential collusion story evolving the NFL and all thirty

836
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 2: two of its teams when it pertains to one particular

837
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 2: draft pick from this past April we'll talk about Coming

838
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 2: up next on Fox Sports Saturday, Kevin Figures and Adam

839
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 2: Alston with you.

840
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 3: Back to Fox Sports Saturday.

841
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 2: Welcome in, Kevin Figures, Adam Auson with you guys at

842
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Speaker 2: kfig one is where you can find you on.

843
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 3: Next Adam at follow Adam a on X as well.

844
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 4: Come on our next hour fantasy football expert James Coe.

845
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 4: You've seen him on DirectTV NFL Network. Now he's with

846
00:34:55,800 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 4: Reception Perception dot Com. He's joined the show. Plus, we

847
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 4: got more NFL FL for you.

848
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 3: We do.

849
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 2: And before we get into some controversy surrounded the NFL

850
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 2: Draft this past April, be sure to subscribe to the

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857
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Kevin, you broke a little bit of news

858
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 2: earlier this week.

859
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 3: I didn't do anything.

860
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 4: Well, come on, you're the producer of the show. You're

861
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 4: the chairman of the board. You're producing the show locally

862
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 4: AM five to seven e LA Sports, our affiliate here

863
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 4: in Los Angeles. The Rogan and Rodney Show and ed

864
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 4: Our old friend Eric Dickerson was on as he's prone

865
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 4: to be.

866
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, Rams Hall of Famer mister twenty one oh five.

867
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 2: Eric Dickerson was a guest on the show, as he

868
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,919
Speaker 2: typically is during football season, and he had some interest

869
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 2: and comments about Shador Sanders. We all know that Sador

870
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 2: Sanders much talked about, much hyped up going into this

871
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 2: past April's NFL Draft. Many people thought he can go

872
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 2: anywhere between the first and third rounds. He ends up

873
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 2: falling all the way to the fifth round to the

874
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns. Now, if you listen to what Eric Dickerson

875
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 2: told Fred Rogan and Rodney Pete earlier this week on

876
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 2: a five to seventy l A Sports the according to

877
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 2: his sources, the NFL didn't even want that to happen.

878
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 6: And I'll tell you as much here what I and

879
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 6: what I heard from someone that's in the NFL that

880
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 6: the NFL put it told other don't draft him, do

881
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 6: not draft him. We're gonna make up, we're gonna make

882
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 6: an example out of him. And this came from a

883
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,919
Speaker 6: very good source, a very good source. And he said

884
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,280
Speaker 6: that I won't say who. Somebody called the Cleveland Browns

885
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 6: and said, don't do that. Draft really, yep, draft him,

886
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 6: don't don't don't do that because they weren't drafted either.

887
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 3: They weren't gonna drafted. All right. I love Ed. I

888
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:55,399
Speaker 3: feel a butt coming.

889
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 4: He is prone to speaking his mind.

890
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,280
Speaker 2: Now, he did say he got this information from a source,

891
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 2: so he's not talking out of school here is this

892
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 2: is going off with somebody that he spoke with, who

893
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,280
Speaker 2: he says would have knowledge of these things.

894
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 4: I don't doubt someone told him that. The question is

895
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 4: did it happen? How true is it? To what degree

896
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 4: did the NFL really manipulate the draft to stop Shadeur

897
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:20,760
Speaker 4: Sanders from being drafted earlier?

898
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 2: Let me ask it this way, do you think that

899
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 2: it's out of the realm of possibility or unbelievable that

900
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 2: the NFL would potentially collude to have something like this happened.

901
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:32,760
Speaker 3: I don't think it's that far fetched.

902
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 4: It's not that far fetched, But I don't know if

903
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 4: it's worth the risk just to teach Schadere Sanders a lesson, like,

904
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 4: because this guy's so braggadocious and his dad is Dion,

905
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 4: we're really gonna stick it to him. Because here's my

906
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 4: theory on this, and here's how I always feel my

907
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 4: philosophy about big conspiracies, and this would be one. Absolutely,

908
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 4: a lot of people would have to be involved. Everybody

909
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 4: would have to be told, whether it's a asset look

910
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,720
Speaker 4: or a phone call or a text or a memo.

911
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 4: Teams would have to be told this, and according to Ed,

912
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 4: the Browns were told even in the fifth round, don't

913
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 4: take them, not to take them. So how far is

914
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 4: the NFL going with this? Even in the fifth round.

915
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 3: That's not enough of an example to make out of them.

916
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 2: I mean, we just came out of a lawsuit where

917
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 2: the NFL was basically proven to have colluded and told

918
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,280
Speaker 2: each other, you know, we're never gonna give a guaranteed

919
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,919
Speaker 2: money like Deshaun Watson got from the Cleveland Browns. Having

920
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 2: these internal discussions between owners about how business practices are

921
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 2: gonna work is not wholly unprecedented, and it's a lot different.

922
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 3: And this is also never confirmed.

923
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 2: But if you remember back some years ago when Michael

924
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 2: Sam was the defensive player of the year in the

925
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 2: SEC at Missouri and fell in the draft, you know,

926
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 2: he was openly he was an openly gay player. An

927
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 2: openly gay player had never been drafted, and there were

928
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 2: rumors that Jeff Fisher and the Rams were basically told

929
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 2: by the NFL do us as solid and draft Michael

930
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 2: Sam because basically it would make the NFL look good

931
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 2: from a pr standpoint. That was never proven, but it

932
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 2: was a long held theory that a lot of people

933
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 2: will still hold on to.

934
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 4: I still wonder how many teams would be like, if

935
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 4: they really thought he was talented enough, Well, we can't

936
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 4: take him, because the NFL is gonna do what They're

937
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 4: gonna take away picks and not explain why to the public.

938
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 4: The Cleveland Browns lost three first round picks for an

939
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 4: undisclosed reason, Like, how how could they penalize somebody for

940
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 4: taking him? They can't with them the cover being blown

941
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 4: off the story of why.

942
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing. You couldn't penalize him.

943
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 2: I guess if the only thing you could do is

944
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 2: strongly discourage them from doing it, and if it first

945
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 2: of all, I hope it's not true too, because this

946
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 2: would be a horrible look for the NFL from up

947
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 2: from a pr standpoint, because you're telling me that the

948
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,720
Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs can draft Tyreek Hill, a guy who

949
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 2: beat up his pregnant girlfriend while he was in college

950
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 2: at Oklahoma State, and the fact that this guy can

951
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 2: get drafted, but you're telling me that you George Sanders

952
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 2: because he happens to be braggadocio and blows off a

953
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 2: couple of interviews.

954
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,879
Speaker 3: You're telling teams not to draft him. I hope that

955
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 3: that's not.

956
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 2: True, Yeah, because that would be a horrible look for

957
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 2: a pr standpoint for the NFL.

958
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 4: That's kind of how I feel about it. Typically when

959
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 4: it comes to major conspiracy sees, you know, the people

960
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,760
Speaker 4: who hate the government are also saying but they're stupid

961
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 4: and smart at the same time, because the government's screwing

962
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 4: everything up. But also they killed JFK and aliens are real,

963
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 4: they're smart enough to hide that stuff from us while

964
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 4: screwing up everything else. Like, it doesn't work like that.

965
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 4: That is a complete contradiction, And I feel kind of

966
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 4: the same way here. But you're right, it is possible.

967
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 4: It's not completely out of the Roman possibility.

968
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 2: All right, was not out of the Roman possibility, as

969
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 2: Adam and I will be back next talking to some

970
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 2: college football here on Fox Sports Saturday.

971
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

972
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,399
Speaker 3: Welcome back in It's our two of the FNA show

973
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 3: here on FSR on a Fox Sports Saturday. I'm out

974
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 3: of Moslin.

975
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 4: He is Kevin Figures coming up a little bit later

976
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 4: in this very hour.

977
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 3: We got our fantasy football expert in James Co joined

978
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 3: the show.

979
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 2: That'll be a lot of fun kicking help me out

980
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 2: with my fantasy drafting because I need because I've been

981
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 2: awful for the last eight years.

982
00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 3: Now's the time people are drafting.

983
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 4: I mean there's I see leagues and franchise modes in there.

984
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 4: I guess where people just keep the same teams year.

985
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 3: To year fantasy.

986
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 2: Oh so those fantasy modes like that, franchise modes. And

987
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 2: I knew that was a thing in mad and I

988
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 2: didn't realized that was a thing in fantasy.

989
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 3: I feel like it should be at some point at

990
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 3: least should I start that. No, I wouldn't sign up

991
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 3: for that, distorting my history of drafting. I don't know

992
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,760
Speaker 3: if I do that. Not a Jason Smith Patton pending.

993
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 3: Not at all, Not at all.

994
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,879
Speaker 4: Something we did mention last week, and it's a little

995
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 4: bit of a follow up.

996
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

997
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 4: Well, Jim Harbaugh and the Michigan Wolverines got what was

998
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 4: the equivalent of a slap on the wrist by the

999
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 4: NCAA for their quote unquote spygates scandal, their stealing signs

1000
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 4: scandal from two years ago. It was like a slap

1001
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 4: bracelet from the nineties that would just wrap around your wrist,

1002
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:51,879
Speaker 4: and there was a myth out there that some kid

1003
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,720
Speaker 4: broke his wrist using the slap bracelet. My parents wouldn't

1004
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 4: let me get one because of it, Like it was nothing.

1005
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 2: Kevin I would say, it's probably more like you remember

1006
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 2: the old the racetracks, the old racetracks you would have

1007
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 2: when you were a kid with old cars. It's probably

1008
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 2: more like somebody taking you when smacking you on the

1009
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 2: hand with that.

1010
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 3: It hurts for a little bit, but it won't kill you.

1011
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 2: It we're off twenty million dollars to twenty million dollars

1012
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,240
Speaker 2: hits your athletic department, or at least twenty million dollars

1013
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 2: is not nothing. They'll be able to make up for it.

1014
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 2: It's not gonna hurt them too badly, but it does

1015
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 2: sting a little bit.

1016
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 3: Well, I saw this.

1017
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:30,760
Speaker 4: Somebody point out that Urban Meyer, former Big ten legend

1018
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 4: you could say, with the Ohio State Buck guys and

1019
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 4: rival of Jim Harbaugh's, was making a good point. Someone said,

1020
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 4: you know the meme the worst person in the world

1021
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 4: just made a good point. Yeah, the person you hate

1022
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 4: the most actually just made a good point.

1023
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:46,439
Speaker 3: For once. That was urban Meyer this week.

1024
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, so urban Meyer's talking about Jim Harball and the

1025
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 2: fact that he basically cut and ran from Michigan, you know,

1026
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 2: at the I guess best possible time for him, right

1027
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 2: before the stations came down, and Harball gets hit with

1028
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 2: a ten year or the eight year or ten year

1029
00:42:58,239 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 2: show calls.

1030
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 3: Either does a man come going.

1031
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 4: Back to college football at any time? So he ain't going

1032
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 4: back anyway.

1033
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 2: And by the way, even if he did, I feel

1034
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 2: like the show calls doesn't really hold as much weight

1035
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 2: as it did back in the day. You Basically, all

1036
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 2: the show calls is is if a college wants to

1037
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 2: hire you, you have to speak it front of the NCAA,

1038
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 2: in front of a panel and explain why it can

1039
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,399
Speaker 2: present a compelling case as to why they should allow

1040
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 2: you to hire him.

1041
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 4: Make your case, bring some evidence to the table. He

1042
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 4: ain't got to worry about that because it's basically like

1043
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 4: he ran to or flew to Columbia, correct, and he's

1044
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 4: not going to be extra died from the NFL.

1045
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, and urban Meyer says like, well, hold on, so

1046
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 2: Ohio State, I hit with all these sanctions and guys

1047
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 2: got fired. And then Terrell Pryor got suspended for games

1048
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 2: in his NFL career for stuff that he did at

1049
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 2: Ohio State far less. Yeah, So why are we not

1050
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 2: having that exact same situation right now when it comes

1051
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 2: to Jim Harble.

1052
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 3: Let's hear from Urban Meyer.

1053
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 8: There's an elephant in the room here, boys, though, that

1054
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 8: no one's talking about. When Jim Trussell was fired at

1055
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 8: Ohio State and he was given a suspension, Roger Goodell,

1056
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 8: commissioner of that football league, came out and said that

1057
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 8: we're going to honor that violate, that we're going to

1058
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 8: honor that suspension. And you remember he went to an

1059
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 8: Indianapolis Colts to work in the replay room or something.

1060
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 8: The Colts because the respect they had for the NCAA

1061
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 8: and the suspension, Julize suspended Jim Trussell, so he was

1062
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,720
Speaker 8: unable to perform his duties for the first six games

1063
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 8: of the year for the Indianapolis Colts. I think we

1064
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 8: all know the answer. Yeah, any chance that Roger Goodell

1065
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 8: and the NFL, of course not.

1066
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 2: So you talk about the meme that you saw earlier

1067
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 2: this week, Adam, I mean, he's not wrong. Urban does

1068
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 2: have a point, doesn't he.

1069
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1070
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 2: Okay, I watched you Harball be held to a lesser

1071
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 2: standard for something for he did something that was far worse.

1072
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 2: All Jim Trussell did was essentially try to protect the

1073
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 2: kids and lie about them trading their I guess what

1074
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 2: they had cards or whatever, memorabilia for tattoos.

1075
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 3: And he lost his job over it.

1076
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,280
Speaker 2: You could argue he was already he already got his punishment,

1077
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 2: he got fired from his job, So why the NFL

1078
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 2: needs to double down and give him another suspension.

1079
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 4: Terrell Prior would have a sponsorship through Nil from that

1080
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 4: tattoo parlor today if he played in college football now,

1081
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 4: because things have changed that much. It's a totally different universe.

1082
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 4: But I will say this, while it's not apples and oranges,

1083
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 4: I think it's like a red delicious apple versus a

1084
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 4: Granny Smith when you're trying to parallel these two situations

1085
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 4: here between Michigan and what happened back in the day

1086
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 4: with Ohio State. Because here's the thing, Jim Harbaugh did

1087
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 4: get penalized. He missed three games of consequence on their

1088
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,479
Speaker 4: run to winning it all. But forget that two years

1089
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 4: ago he missed the game against Ohio State. That's not nothing. Huh,

1090
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 4: there was some punishment levied. I actually think that's pretty significant.

1091
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 3: I'd agree Jim.

1092
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 4: Harbaugh is as good as a coach as we think

1093
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 4: he is. Missing him for three of the biggest games

1094
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 4: of the season is not nothing. Penn State was one

1095
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 4: of them, right.

1096
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was.

1097
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 2: And there's also the element of so if everything were

1098
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 2: to be equal, I guess you should say Goodell should.

1099
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 3: Have a uniform rule how he handles this.

1100
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 2: It's kind of like the Ray Rice situation is basically

1101
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 2: what changed the NFL's domestic violence policy, where at that

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00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 2: point in time it was up to the commissioner's discretion

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00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 2: based on facts and evidence. Now it's like, if you

1104
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 2: are deemed to have violated the policy, you get an

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00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 2: automatic six games. It does not matter what the commissioner's

1106
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 2: opinion is. So maybe there should be something if you're

1107
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 2: going to do it this way, and I don't think

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00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 2: it should be by the way. And I'll tell you

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00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 2: in a second, why have a blanket rule? If you

1110
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 2: committed some sort of a fraction against the nc double

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00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 2: A while you were in college, whatever their penalty is levied,

1112
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 2: we will do our own investigation of it. And we

1113
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 2: have the right to levy a penalty as well, based

1114
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 2: on whatever that infraction could have been. But my issue

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00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 2: with that is when would you ever, let's say you

1116
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 2: ran if you were a Google employee or something, and

1117
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 2: you ran a foul of some sort of code of

1118
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 2: conduct rule or something.

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00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 4: If I was a Google employee, I'd be above the end.

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00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 4: Roger Goodell would be He'd be chasing me down exactly.

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00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 4: This competition is Google and Apple and they let you

1122
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 4: go or you walk away, resignation, whatever you want to

1123
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 4: call it, and Apple hires you. You know, should Apple

1124
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 4: suspend you because you left Google under bad pretenses?

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00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 2: No, that's not their obligation to do that. It's a

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00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 2: different entity in organization. If they choose to, I guess

1127
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 2: they could, But the fact that people are thinking, like

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00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 2: Urban Myers statements, like they're almost under an obligation to

1129
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 2: do it, I don't think the NFL is obligated to

1130
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 2: do it, and personally I don't think they should.

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00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 4: I think when Pete Carroll left USC around twenty ten

1132
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 4: and the sanctions all came down and it was a

1133
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 4: much stiffer fine penalty, it was punitive.

1134
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 2: Loss of national championships, loss of scholarships. They had an

1135
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,359
Speaker 2: undefeated season where they couldn't even play in the postseason, right,

1136
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 2: just like Urban Meyer and Ohio State, by the way,

1137
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:52,240
Speaker 2: and that's why he's so better.

1138
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 4: He was affected by what happened with Jim Tressel back then.

1139
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 4: And also he was seven and zero against Jim Harbaugh,

1140
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 4: the head Urban would have gotten the job if Jim Trussell,

1141
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 4: wh hadn't gotten fired, So there's that part too.

1142
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 3: This is fair. Yeah, you can't have it both ways.

1143
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 4: But I don't love the idea of guys being able

1144
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 4: to fly the coop kind.

1145
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 3: Of cut and run.

1146
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a bad look optics wise, to just get

1147
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 4: away from facing any consequences by going to the level

1148
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 4: up into the pros and college football's pros now too.

1149
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 3: But yeah, and it always was. Really I don't love that.

1150
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 4: I don't mind the idea of being able to suspend guys.

1151
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 4: But I hear what you're saying. What legal recourse does

1152
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 4: the NFL really have? Like if they tried that against

1153
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 4: Jim Harbaugh, you might be able to fight it and win.

1154
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 4: Do they want to be entangled in a legal case

1155
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 4: with a head coach who, by the by the way,

1156
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 4: he's in year two now with the Chargers, it just

1157
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 4: feels like, yes, it's unresolved. It feels like the end

1158
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 4: of Poulter. Guys, they just get in the car and

1159
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 4: drive away. Feels like that with Michigan and some of

1160
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 4: the people who were there that committed the wrongdoing. They

1161
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 4: got away scott free. But there's just no clean way

1162
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 4: to do this either. It just it seems like everybody

1163
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 4: just kind of wants it to go away and they

1164
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,320
Speaker 4: don't want to obviously punish that people have had nothing

1165
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 4: to do with it at the university.

1166
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 3: Now that's the main issue here with the NCAAA.

1167
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, which I kind of applaud And again the NCAA

1168
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 2: is also saying the only reason they didn't levy harsh

1169
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 2: or penalties is because it's not as if Michigan didn't

1170
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 2: play with or they did play with ineligible players, so

1171
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 2: it'll be different. The Terrell prior situation because he got

1172
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 2: these improper benefits stupid as it might have been at

1173
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 2: the time, and even the Reggie Bush situation, Yeah, is

1174
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 2: these are players who, if we knew about these things

1175
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 2: that were happening, would not have been eligible to play.

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00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 3: They wouldn't have been on the field, they couldn't have

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Speaker 3: affected things.

1178
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 2: And again I go back to your acting like coaching

1179
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 2: staff stealing signs is not affecting the products on the

1180
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 2: field too. Now, you're right, the players might not be ineligible,

1181
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 2: but they're getting information that they otherwise would not have.

1182
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 3: That's giving them an advantage over their opponents.

1183
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 4: To Urban, My point though, is where's the fairness here?

1184
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 4: The punishments aren't equal. Well, yeah, of course, it's like

1185
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 4: the truth is, though, if you're looking for equal or

1186
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 4: fair punishment in any form of life, forget sports. I mean,

1187
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 4: you're gonna have a tough time, especially because of how

1188
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 4: different things are with the NCAA, which is basically toothless

1189
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 4: compared to where they were in twenty thirteen and the

1190
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 4: broad latitude they had to hand down punishment with it

1191
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 4: felt like they could do whatever they wanted. They were

1192
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:32,800
Speaker 4: still operating under the guise of amateur sports. Everything's changed

1193
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,800
Speaker 4: now it's big business and it's right in front of

1194
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 4: us with nil. So it's not comparable to twenty thirteen.

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00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 3: Urban. I'm sorry, Yes, it's not fair. Life ain't fair.

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Speaker 4: Michigan fans are happy about this, and Ohio State fans

1197
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 4: are salty, and that's not gonna end.

1198
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 2: A great philosopher one said that fair is where a

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Speaker 2: pig gets a blue ribbon, Babe.

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Speaker 4: Basically, yeah, do you give a ribbon to a pig.

1201
00:50:57,880 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 4: That's what fair is. That'll do, pig.

1202
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 3: You know what's fair.

1203
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 2: We want to help you win your fantasy football league,

1204
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 2: fair and square, and I can only think of one

1205
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Speaker 2: way to do that, to bring on one of the

1206
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Speaker 2: foremost experts in the fantasy football world, James Co joining

1207
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Speaker 2: us next here on Fox Sports Saturday, Kevin figures Adam

1208
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Speaker 2: Awson with you.

1209
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Speaker 3: Stick around.

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Speaker 2: Kevin figures Adam Alson back with you here on Fox

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Speaker 2: Coming up about thirty minutes or so, we'll get to

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Speaker 2: geek News. I'm always looking forward to that with Adam.

1225
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 2: It's a staple of the old Fina podcast back in

1226
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:00,399
Speaker 2: the day, so that's always a fun segment. But coming

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Speaker 2: up right now, a friend of the show, one of

1228
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Speaker 2: our favorites and gonna be one of your favorites as well,

1229
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Speaker 2: because it's going to help you win your fantasy football championship.

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Speaker 3: Let's get to it, Adam an Dragan.

1231
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Speaker 7: Dude, thank you, Dotty.

1232
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Speaker 4: Well, maybe you finished DFL in your FFL last season

1233
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 4: and your friends in that fantasy football league are now

1234
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 4: more like frien of Mese who you desperately want to

1235
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Speaker 4: get revenge on, like you're swinging the hammer in the

1236
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 4: hallway in that scene from the Revenge masterpiece Old Boy.

1237
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 4: But we got an old friend who is the hammer

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Speaker 4: that will help you fight for that elevator and take

1239
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Speaker 4: it all the way to the top of your fantasy

1240
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Speaker 4: football standings and be the last man standing. It's the

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Speaker 4: expert in guru you followed on NFL Network and DirecTV,

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Speaker 4: and now he's doing it for Reception, perception and roto wire.

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Speaker 3: Do not ever sleep on the sleeper.

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Speaker 4: King James Coe back on the FNA show here on FSR,

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Speaker 4: follow him at James dco on X and remember like

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Speaker 4: bow Nose techmobul Co Nos Fantasy Football.

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Speaker 3: James, what's up?

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Speaker 5: I'm doing well? First of all, I'm just stoked that

1249
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 5: one of my Korean brothers got a shout out old

1250
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 5: boy and old boy, let's go.

1251
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 12: I'm down.

1252
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:07,839
Speaker 5: Let's make it work.

1253
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 4: First thing, I think I've been talking revenge. I feel

1254
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 4: like there's a player out there that's been getting revenge

1255
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 4: on Kevin and I for a while, saying that he

1256
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:17,240
Speaker 4: may be done soon.

1257
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 3: And by soon, I meant.

1258
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,439
Speaker 4: He was supposed to be cooked three or four years ago,

1259
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,760
Speaker 4: and yet he's still going. How hig are you picking

1260
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 4: Derrick Henry because it just seems like he's an agelest

1261
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,839
Speaker 4: wonder right now. I counted his days two years ago

1262
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 4: at least.

1263
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 5: No. First of all, you do that intro for Derek Kennry, Like, wait,

1264
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 5: I thought we're talking Lebron. What's going on over here?

1265
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 3: I get it.

1266
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 5: No, Look, Dereck Henry's a Hall of Famer man. He's

1267
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 5: one of my favorite players of all time, and obviously

1268
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 5: he is truly one of he's like one of one man.

1269
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 5: He's a degenerational player. But yeah, this year I am

1270
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 5: not investing in Derrick Henry, mostly because listen, your listeners

1271
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:58,839
Speaker 5: can google this man. But it's the curse of three

1272
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:01,399
Speaker 5: seventy and the basic is when a running back gets

1273
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 5: three hundred and seventy or more touches in a season,

1274
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 5: the next year, they're a high injury risk and or

1275
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 5: a risk for serious decline in efficiency in productivity. Two

1276
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 5: times that this has happened to Derrick Henry, and both

1277
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 5: times he has suffered the curse of three seventy. One

1278
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,919
Speaker 5: time he missed eight games and then the second time

1279
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 5: he saw twenty five percent reduction in overall yards. Right,

1280
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 5: so he's coming off of a three hundred and eighty

1281
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 5: plus touch season this year, I'm a little bit worried.

1282
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 5: We're talking about an older running back as well. We

1283
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 5: don't really like running backs past the age of twenty nine. He's,

1284
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 5: you know, again, at thirty one years old, coming off

1285
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 5: of a high touch, high volume season. Derreck Henry, I

1286
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,399
Speaker 5: love him, He's a Hall of Famer, but this year,

1287
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 5: considering cost at the end of the first round. I'm

1288
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:47,240
Speaker 5: probably gonna.

1289
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Speaker 2: Pass James co joining us here on Fox Sports Saturday,

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Speaker 2: Kevin figures in Adam Auson with you. What about some

1291
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 2: of the other running backs specifically, I'll start with rookie

1292
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 2: because I know Ashtion Gentz is a guy that a

1293
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 2: lot of people love and people wont gaga over one

1294
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 2: highlight from last week where he ran over a forty

1295
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 2: nine or defender. What's your outlook when it comes to

1296
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 2: Ashton Genzy and the kind of fantasy impact he could

1297
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 2: have this year as a rookie.

1298
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 5: Oh my god, I love Ashton gent First of all,

1299
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 5: He's an absolute stud in a maniac I love. I

1300
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 5: kind of wish Ship Kelly didn't make him change his stance,

1301
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 5: you know, like I love that crazy psychopath stance that

1302
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 5: he's got in the backfield anyways, But no, Look, he's

1303
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 5: playing for a coach that wants to run the pits

1304
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:25,839
Speaker 5: out of the ball right in Pete Carroll. And he's

1305
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 5: also playing for an offensive coordinator and Ship Kelly that

1306
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 5: knows how to get the maximum out of his running backs, right.

1307
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 5: So this has been this is a duo here in

1308
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 5: terms of the coaching staff. There for Las Vegas. That man,

1309
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 5: when you just start adding it all up, Gendy's got

1310
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 5: a real possibility to just be an absolutely special player,

1311
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 5: especially his rookie season. I would not be surprised if

1312
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 5: he just comes out the gates and just gives you

1313
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 5: fifteen hundred and eighteen hundred yards, gives you twelve to

1314
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 5: thirteen touchdowns as well. I love the setup for him.

1315
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 5: They revamped the offense, and it's not to me. It's

1316
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 5: an offense that is actually pretty good when you look

1317
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 5: at it on paper. Overall, they made a huge quarterback upgrade.

1318
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 5: Their wide receivers got upgraded as well. They add an

1319
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 5: athletic wide receiver on the outside of Deontay Thorton. I

1320
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 5: love Jack Besh. I mean, shoot, you've got two tight

1321
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 5: ends that can play as well, and Brock Bowers and

1322
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 5: Michael Meher. This team set up to succeed. Guys. The

1323
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 5: offense actually looks pretty good considering where this offense was

1324
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:28,399
Speaker 5: at last year. I really like the Raiders. I think

1325
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 5: they're going to surprise some folks. Obviously they're in the

1326
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 5: toughest division in football. But Jint's gonna have a huge

1327
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 5: impact to me. When you talk about Pete Carroll and

1328
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 5: Chip Kelly having influence over the run game.

1329
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 4: Speaking of that division here, James who's getting the bulk

1330
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,359
Speaker 4: of the carries for the Denver Broncos. Some think RJ

1331
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 4: Harvey because steal carries from Dobbins.

1332
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 3: How are you feeling about that?

1333
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:55,439
Speaker 5: I don't even consider Dobbins to be I just don't

1334
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 5: consider Dobbins at all. I know he had a good

1335
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 5: season last year on a play under Jim Harball, but

1336
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 5: I mean, at this point in his career, I think

1337
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 5: last year was a huge outlier in terms of health,

1338
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 5: not just for him, but just for the running back

1339
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 5: position in general. It was absolutely insane how no running

1340
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 5: backs really got hurt last year, and I think that's

1341
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 5: going to be a huge outlier. We're just talking like,

1342
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 5: you know, thirty thousand feet in the sky. I really

1343
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 5: want to go zero RB this year in terms of

1344
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 5: a draft strategy. And I know all the boomers out

1345
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 5: there listening, fantasy boomers out there, like, you got to

1346
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 5: take a running back early, bro, That's how you win

1347
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,919
Speaker 5: a league, now, listen. I just think this year there's

1348
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 5: going to be a return to the mean. I think

1349
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 5: a lot more star running backs are going to get hurt.

1350
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 5: I think we're going to see a lot more movement

1351
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 5: in terms of you know, backup running backs getting some play.

1352
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 5: And it's funny. So now you talk about JK. Dobbins,

1353
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 5: who's been one of the both injured running backs up

1354
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 5: the last five years, and somehow, some way, this dude

1355
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 5: stays healthy last year, right Like he is truly the

1356
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 5: encapsulation of what I'm talking about running back staying healthy

1357
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:06,439
Speaker 5: last year. So no, I'm not really considering him, mostly because, man, RJ.

1358
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 5: Harvey is the real deal. I charted him this offseason.

1359
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 5: I charted a bunch of rookies as well. If you

1360
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 5: guys want to go find my Workpune Reception Perception or

1361
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 5: on my own personal side sleeper King football dot Com.

1362
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:21,959
Speaker 5: Let just give a little shout out there Harvey to me, man,

1363
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 5: you know what, your baseball fan listeners will love this.

1364
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 5: I compared RJ. Harvey to he's the football version of

1365
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 5: Adam Dunn, okay, because he hits a lot of home runs,

1366
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 5: but he also strikes out a ton as well. So

1367
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 5: from the running back position, guys, RJ. Harvey is the

1368
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 5: kind of player that's going to get you, that's going

1369
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 5: to get stuffed at the line a bunch, but man,

1370
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 5: if he breaks a tackle.

1371
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 7: He's gone.

1372
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 5: I mean, this guy has absolute home run ability. It

1373
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 5: just happens to be that his vision isn't the best

1374
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 5: and his tackle breaking is also not the best either.

1375
00:58:56,560 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 5: So he's a home runner, strikeout player. But I really

1376
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 5: like RJ.

1377
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 3: Harvey.

1378
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 5: I think Sean Payton's gonna get the absolute most out

1379
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 5: of him. For sure. He should be a priority in

1380
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 5: the middle rounds when you're taking a look at running back.

1381
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 2: James Co, fantasy football expert for Roder Wire, joining us

1382
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Saturday.

1383
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 3: Kevin Figures and Adam Austen with you guys.

1384
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 2: So since we're talking running backs, we'll go to the

1385
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 2: top few picks of the draft because I think Jamar Chase,

1386
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 2: based on a lot of rankings, is kind of the

1387
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 2: number one overall guy regardless of position. If you have

1388
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 2: the top pick, most people believe you take Jamar Chase,

1389
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 2: and then it kind of gets a little murky if

1390
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 2: you're talking about Saquon Barkley, who had a great.

1391
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 3: Year last year.

1392
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 2: If these are Robinson obviously high up there for a

1393
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 2: lot of people on the board. Justin Jefferson obviously had

1394
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 2: great talent, but there's an unknown at the quarterback position

1395
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 2: there with essentially a rookie and McCarthy being his quarterback.

1396
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 2: So as far as how the top five or so

1397
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 2: picks go in terms of receivers and running backs, how

1398
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 2: does that stack up for you?

1399
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 4: James?

1400
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 5: I know that Saquon Barkley Again, I just feel so

1401
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 5: bad because I love Saquon Barkley. He's one of my

1402
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 5: favorite players of all time. You know, he wasted a

1403
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 5: couple of years there in New York as they were

1404
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 5: trying to figure out their stuff, and wow, I can't

1405
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 5: believe New York is I mean, bro, they get this

1406
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 5: is what's so crazy. They gave Darius Slayton the contract

1407
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 5: that Saquon Barkley wanted.

1408
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 13: Bro, are you serious right now?

1409
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 5: Come on, guys, like, what do you guys do? Anyways, So, again,

1410
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 5: I love Sakuon Barkley, but I just talked about the

1411
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 5: Curse of three seventy with Derek Henry. Bro sakwon Barkley

1412
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 5: last year had four hundred and eighty two touches last year. Again,

1413
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:28,959
Speaker 5: and then again, I'm dovetailing back into my conversation about

1414
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 5: running back staying healthy. Sakuon Barkley, as much as I

1415
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 5: love the guy, has dealt with a lot of injuries

1416
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 5: in his career, and yet somehow, someway, this dude stayed

1417
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 5: healthy pretty much all season long last year despite the

1418
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 5: heavy workload. Again, if I truly believe that we're coming,

1419
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 5: we're going to go back to the norm here and

1420
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 5: back to the mean, I think Sakuon Barkley is at

1421
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 5: the forefront of that idea.

1422
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 12: Right.

1423
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 5: So I just think that Saquon Barkley is either going

1424
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 5: to see a breakdown in health and or efficiency. Overall,

1425
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 5: I'm not investing in him as a top two player

1426
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 5: and I could absolutely be wrong. And let me just

1427
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 5: say this, let me get this out the cuff, man, Like,

1428
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 5: if I'm wrong, you know what, I'll happily eat that.

1429
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 5: You know why, because that means we got seventeen games

1430
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 5: at Saquon Barkley, right, And like, to me, that's more

1431
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 5: important than just being right, you know. Like I'd rather

1432
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 5: just say I'd rather just as a fan, rather see

1433
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 5: seventeen games at Saquon Barkley. That's good football, man, you know.

1434
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 5: But I just think, again, when we're talking about fantasy football,

1435
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 5: I'm not investing a top two pick in Saquon because

1436
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 5: I do think the injury risk is extraordinarily high. If

1437
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 5: we're talking top five here and you want to go

1438
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 5: running back, you know, go ahead and give me Jamir Gibbs.

1439
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:41,919
Speaker 5: I think he's going to go. I think he's gonna

1440
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 5: go ham Sandwich, right like Ben Johnson is gone. There's

1441
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 5: no guarantees that David Montgomery continues to see a fifty

1442
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 5: percent workload. Again, it's it was pretty much a fifty

1443
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 5: to fifty backfield there, and Kamir Gibbs was still the

1444
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 5: RB one last year. Like, let's just think about that,

1445
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 5: Like what happens if he sees sixty five percent of

1446
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 5: the touches, which is absolutely possible. I think I could

1447
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 5: absolutely crush and go crazy. I think Jon Robinson should

1448
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:11,479
Speaker 5: also be in consideration as a top three pick as well. Again,

1449
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 5: another player that has got great hands. When you're talking

1450
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 5: about PPR formats man, like, this guy's gonna absolutely get

1451
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 5: the work, and he got a lot of work last

1452
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 5: year too, So I think those you know, when you're

1453
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 5: talking about running backs, I do like Boujon and I

1454
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 5: definitely like Jamiir Gibbs as well.

1455
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 4: Fantasy football expert James Coe is our guest here on

1456
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 4: the FNA on FSR show. So James, let's take things

1457
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 4: the other way. Then somebody who couldn't stay healthy last

1458
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 4: season would be Christian McCaffrey. Can he have a bounce

1459
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:42,440
Speaker 4: back year or his best years behind him?

1460
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 5: No? I mean, this is what's crazy. The conversation about

1461
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 5: Christian McCaffrey is like it's like having any conversation.

1462
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 3: About his lore, about like about.

1463
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 5: Like legacy, like oh you know, I'm like, oh you

1464
01:02:56,360 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 5: remember cemc twenty twenty three, y'all. It's like, hey, yeah, right,

1465
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 5: But I mean we're playing at twenty twenty five, my guy,

1466
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 5: Like what are we doing out here? Like I don't

1467
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 5: I don't understand, Like he's a he's a you know,

1468
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 5: a universally accepted top twelve player, and it just I

1469
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:14,960
Speaker 5: don't get it, Like I just don't understand. This is

1470
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 5: a player that again is coming off of multiple lower

1471
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 5: you know, body injuries. He had the Achilles thing, which

1472
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 5: I don't think. I'm not a doctor, but does that

1473
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:26,560
Speaker 5: just like go away all of a sudden, Like I

1474
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:30,160
Speaker 5: don't think it does, Like I think the Achilles is Yeah,

1475
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 5: it's still very much a concern. And then again, he

1476
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 5: suffered a season ending knee injury last year. Guys, right,

1477
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 5: and yet we're talking about him at the age of

1478
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:46,440
Speaker 5: twenty nine like he's going to bounce back and you know,

1479
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 5: like it's not going to be a big thing. Like

1480
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 5: for me, I just don't understand twenty nine year old

1481
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 5: running backs coming off of multiple lower body injuries, one

1482
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 5: of them is a season ending knee injury. They just

1483
01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 5: don't bounce back, you know, Like so from me again,

1484
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 5: given the price, Now, I'm not absolutely he's absolutely not

1485
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 5: on my draft list. He's on my donot draft list

1486
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 5: for sure as a top twelve player. Like if he

1487
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 5: dropped down to like twenty five or thirty, yeah, sure,

1488
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 5: let me take a stab at that. But I just

1489
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 5: don't see it. I don't. I just do not understand

1490
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 5: how he can be the dominant force that he was

1491
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:26,960
Speaker 5: in twenty twenty three coming off of those injuries. And

1492
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:29,560
Speaker 5: can I also say this, I think we're just kind

1493
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 5: of sort of like I don't know, YadA YadA. In

1494
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 5: the San Francisco offense in general, Brandon AUT's not Juwan

1495
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 5: Jennings hasn't practiced. Guys like Deebo Samuels across the coast,

1496
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:45,440
Speaker 5: Like what are we talking about right now? Like CMC

1497
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 5: is still recovering, Like the offense could legitimately be trash.

1498
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 5: I mean, I love Rockie Pearsol because he's going to

1499
01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 5: see a ton of work, But I mean, again, what

1500
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 5: does rock Perty look like when he's not playing with

1501
01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 5: the Avengers bro I mean that's a big question mark.

1502
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 5: Like I love George Kittle too, but again, I think

1503
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 5: brock Perty made some strides last year, but I don't

1504
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 5: think anyone is considering brock Purty to be, you know,

1505
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 5: like a top five or top seven talent in the NFL.

1506
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:18,919
Speaker 5: So I'm confused. I think San Francisco, there's a lot

1507
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 5: of ways this can go south. And in relation to CMC,

1508
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:24,600
Speaker 5: if it's not a good offense with then what are

1509
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 5: we really talking about here right when it's the most

1510
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 5: efficient offense in the NFL. Yeah, sure, one hundred percent.

1511
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 5: This guy's got twenty touchdown upside. It's not he just

1512
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 5: doesn't have that upside anymore. So I don't understand why

1513
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:37,640
Speaker 5: we're risking it for a top twelve selection.

1514
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 2: Let's go to what tight ends next there, James, I

1515
01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 2: know a lot of people feel that in year two,

1516
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 2: Rock Bauer's probably already the best at least receiving tight

1517
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 2: end in the NFL, and now he's going to have

1518
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 2: an actual quarterback throwing him the ball on a weekend

1519
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 2: week out basis, I personally was burned by taking Sam

1520
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:54,720
Speaker 2: Laporte a little earlier than I probably should have last year.

1521
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:56,920
Speaker 2: But I was banking on him doubling up what he

1522
01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 2: did from his rookie season and he kind of fell off.

1523
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:00,440
Speaker 3: A little bit and had some injury issues.

1524
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 4: Just the overall tight end landscape, you know who the

1525
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 4: best one is, where do you end up taking them second,

1526
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 4: third round? How do you see the tight end market

1527
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 4: shake it out? From a fantasy standpoint?

1528
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 5: So I love that you brought up Brock Balers, because yes,

1529
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:16,920
Speaker 5: he is absolutely, you know, if not the best. He's

1530
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 5: in the top two in terms of pass catching tight ends.

1531
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 5: But him going in the top fifteen picks right now

1532
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 5: is absolutely bonkers and insane and just I think people

1533
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 5: are just not paying attention. I just talked about how

1534
01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 5: the Las Vegas Raiders completely revamped their offensive, you know, structure, right,

1535
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 5: They add a quarterback, which is great.

1536
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 3: I love it.

1537
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 5: It's going to be more.

1538
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 13: Efficient, for sure.

1539
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 5: But this guy was just a straight up volume monster

1540
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 5: last year. Right, and again they add Jack Bash, they

1541
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:47,439
Speaker 5: add Ashton Genty right like okay, and they're already talking

1542
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:50,920
Speaker 5: about it's going to be twelve personnel with Michael Mayer. Okay, Well,

1543
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 5: we're starting to lose some targets now. Again, I just

1544
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 5: don't see how he maintained the volume that he had

1545
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:02,280
Speaker 5: last year, Like, how does he Someone needs to explain

1546
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 5: to me. How does he do it? How does he

1547
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:07,760
Speaker 5: go about seeing you know, one hundred and fifty targets

1548
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:09,680
Speaker 5: or whatever it was that he saw last year. That's

1549
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 5: insane to me. That just doesn't happen. I wants your

1550
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 5: name is Travis kelce That just doesn't happen. I mean again,

1551
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 5: I love Rock Bowers, See's not Travis Kelcey. You know, like,

1552
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:23,840
Speaker 5: let's be real here, you know, like Brock Bowers is good,

1553
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 5: He's just not Travis Kelcey, man. Like, so I don't know.

1554
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 5: For him to go in the top fifteen is absolutely

1555
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 5: bonkers to me and just completely ignores the offensive landscape

1556
01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 5: that they have in Las Vegas. But when we're talking

1557
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 5: about a true tight end one it's got to be

1558
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 5: Trade McBride. You know, again, he's already has a built

1559
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 5: in chemistry. He's already you know, one of the top

1560
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 5: guys at the position period. You're getting a little bit

1561
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 5: of a discount on him because again people are over

1562
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 5: spending for brock Bowers. Trade McBride's going later. If you

1563
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:55,000
Speaker 5: want to spend at tight end, go ahead and get

1564
01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 5: Trey McBride. And I think George Kittle, Samuela Porta, TJ.

1565
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 5: Hokinson are kind of sort of in that group of

1566
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:04,920
Speaker 5: the next guys up. It's Trey McBride won clearly for me.

1567
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:07,480
Speaker 5: Brock Bowers and the rest of those guys that I

1568
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 5: just mentioned are in the next tier down. And man,

1569
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 5: I would just say this, let me give some fantasy

1570
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:16,439
Speaker 5: advice for the folks out there. You've probably heard of

1571
01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 5: like you know, dead zone running backs. These are running

1572
01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 5: backs that you take in the middle rounds, like anywhere

1573
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 5: between rounds four to eight, and people generally say you

1574
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:26,880
Speaker 5: should avoid that because there's a lot of turnover in

1575
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:30,599
Speaker 5: those running backs. There's just you know, inefficiencies in that area.

1576
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:32,720
Speaker 5: I would say the exact same thing for the tight

1577
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:36,240
Speaker 5: end position. You really want to avoid all of these

1578
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:39,920
Speaker 5: mid round tight ends, like the David and Joku's David,

1579
01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:42,920
Speaker 5: the Evan Ingram's of the world, the John hus Smith's,

1580
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 5: like Dalton Kincaid, Like. I don't want any of those

1581
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:49,519
Speaker 5: guys because I think the guys at the bottom of

1582
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:52,559
Speaker 5: the draft board at tight end are gonna be, I mean,

1583
01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:57,000
Speaker 5: just as good as some of these guys, if not better.

1584
01:08:57,200 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 5: And if we're taking a look at late round tight end,

1585
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 5: why can't Kyle Pits, Yo, why can't Kyle Pits be

1586
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:07,880
Speaker 5: a little something something? He's a tight end fifteen right now?

1587
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:09,840
Speaker 5: He's going so late, he's going outside the top, you know,

1588
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:12,640
Speaker 5: one hundred and twenty five picks. Man. Again, we're not

1589
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 5: investing a third round pick like we were in the past.

1590
01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 5: Kyle Pitts is going so late. I actually think that

1591
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:21,840
Speaker 5: he's of value. Now. We've gone from overvalue to undervalued

1592
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:24,160
Speaker 5: on Kyle Pitts, and I really like taking a stab

1593
01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:25,320
Speaker 5: at him later in the draft.

1594
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 4: So we're not going to have the sleeper king on

1595
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:30,600
Speaker 4: without asking for some guys who are definitely on the

1596
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 4: ambient and in hibernation right now. Give us a couple

1597
01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 4: of guys that people could use to help win on

1598
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:37,759
Speaker 4: the margins and maybe win their league.

1599
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 5: Here, James, Okay, so again, you know I'm laying out

1600
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 5: some dudes here. I really like Jordan Mason. He's the

1601
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 5: RB thirty five right now. He's going outside the top

1602
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 5: one hundred and ten picks. Aaron Jones is again getting

1603
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:51,200
Speaker 5: a little bit longer in the twos. He's going to

1604
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 5: his age thirty one season again. A guy who has

1605
01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:59,040
Speaker 5: dealt with injury throughout his career but somehow somewhat played

1606
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:01,840
Speaker 5: a career high seventeen games last year and had a

1607
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:04,639
Speaker 5: career high three hundred and six touches. Guys, He's coming

1608
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 5: back down, man, it is coming back down. Jordan Mason

1609
01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 5: is going to run in that koc system really really well.

1610
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:12,960
Speaker 5: I really like him as a late round running back.

1611
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:15,720
Speaker 5: If there's another player I'm really looking at, it might

1612
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:18,559
Speaker 5: be Trey Benson. He's the RB forty seven. He's going

1613
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:21,320
Speaker 5: outside the top one fifty again. He has another player

1614
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 5: in front of him, James Connor, who somehow some way

1615
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 5: stayed healthy, which is just bonkers. James Connor has dealt

1616
01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:29,760
Speaker 5: with so many injuries throughout his career. He's thirty years

1617
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 5: old now, and I do think that he's going to

1618
01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 5: have some injury issues and some inefficiency issues as well.

1619
01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 5: Trey Benson a tremendous athlete. Two hundred and fifteen pounds,

1620
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 5: he ran a four three ninety. In regards to wide receivers, Dude,

1621
01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 5: I just I find myself if I don't leave my

1622
01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 5: draft with either Ricky Piersoll or Romo Dunze, I'm pissed.

1623
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:53,200
Speaker 5: You know, these two guys have a real chance to

1624
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 5: break through in year number two A Mecca Abuca, Oh

1625
01:10:57,040 --> 01:10:59,559
Speaker 5: my god, he's flying up draft boards right now. But

1626
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:02,599
Speaker 5: still I think he's in that sleeper range. I think

1627
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:05,639
Speaker 5: he's gonna have an absolute banger of a first six

1628
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:07,960
Speaker 5: weeks to the season. We'll see how long it takes

1629
01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 5: Chris Godwin to come back. But to Mecca Book, I

1630
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 5: love this kid out of Ohio State. Definitely reached for him.

1631
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:16,280
Speaker 5: Once you get into the ninth round here and then

1632
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 5: at quarterback man Trevor Lawrence, people have the hate has

1633
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:23,080
Speaker 5: gone too.

1634
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:23,759
Speaker 1: Far, y'all.

1635
01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:27,240
Speaker 5: You know, like, is he the best quarterback prospect since

1636
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:30,799
Speaker 5: Andrew Locke? No, obviously not, But why are we double

1637
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:34,519
Speaker 5: telling me that now and saying he's trash Like That's

1638
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 5: what drives me crazy. You know, it's like, oh, well,

1639
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:40,760
Speaker 5: he's trash like. He wasn't a golden child, so he

1640
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:45,799
Speaker 5: must be trash like. No, Trevor Lawrence is a damn

1641
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:48,960
Speaker 5: good quarterback. He has dealt with some of the worst

1642
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:51,759
Speaker 5: coaching that we have ever seen at the quarterback position,

1643
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 5: and yet he's still been somewhat okay. And oh, by

1644
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 5: the way, his past catchers have also not been good.

1645
01:11:58,479 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 5: So now he's got too gool great pass catchers and

1646
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:06,880
Speaker 5: Brian Thomas Junior and Travis Hunter. He's got a good too,

1647
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:09,960
Speaker 5: great head coach, offensive coach, and Liam Cohen coming into

1648
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 5: du ball as well. Dude, I'm telling you right now,

1649
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:16,679
Speaker 5: Mark the tape, y'all, Trevor Lawrence is going to finish

1650
01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 5: as a top ten fantasy quarterback. You know, as man,

1651
01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:21,479
Speaker 5: that's not even bold enough for the sleeper King bro.

1652
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:25,240
Speaker 5: Trevor Lawrence is finishing as a top eight fantasy quarterback.

1653
01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 3: Mark the Tape.

1654
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 7: F hated that.

1655
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:30,519
Speaker 2: Okay, we're going to save that one. James for sure.

1656
01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:34,680
Speaker 2: James Coe the fantasy football expert for Roda Wire, and

1657
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 2: you heard him breaking down the receivers so eloquently a

1658
01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:40,160
Speaker 2: couple of seconds ago. That's because he's also a co

1659
01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 2: owner of Reception Perception. Tell us what reception perception is

1660
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:45,479
Speaker 2: all about? There, James, you guys are doing some really

1661
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:46,479
Speaker 2: exciting stuff over there.

1662
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:48,439
Speaker 5: Oh thank you man. Yeah, hey, listen, you know this

1663
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Speaker 5: is how we market ourselves. We are the mom and

1664
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 5: pop version of PFF. So again, if you love football,

1665
01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:56,800
Speaker 5: you love analytics, you come to our site. We're the

1666
01:12:56,840 --> 01:13:01,000
Speaker 5: mom and pop version of PFF. We've got just introduced

1667
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:05,439
Speaker 5: this offseason. We just introduced running back charting. Your boy

1668
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:08,160
Speaker 5: over here, the Sleeper King is doing some running back charting.

1669
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:11,880
Speaker 5: Now we've got quarterback charting. We of course, are known

1670
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:14,679
Speaker 5: for the wide receiver charting. It's the best wide receiver

1671
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:17,200
Speaker 5: data that you're going to find on the market period,

1672
01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:19,320
Speaker 5: hands down. I don't care. You can argue with your

1673
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Speaker 5: mom about who is better at wide receiver analysis. I'm

1674
01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 5: going to tell you right now, I'm going to kpe

1675
01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:26,920
Speaker 5: up for my boy, Matt Harmon and Reception Perception. We

1676
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:29,400
Speaker 5: built this whole company, We built the whole website around

1677
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:31,760
Speaker 5: what he does because he's so dang good at it.

1678
01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:35,000
Speaker 5: But again, we've added some quarterback stuff. We've added running

1679
01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:38,680
Speaker 5: back charting as well. And yeah, like I said, man,

1680
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:40,360
Speaker 5: we take a lot of private and kind of being

1681
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:43,000
Speaker 5: this plucky underdog man where it's a mom and pop

1682
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:45,400
Speaker 5: version of PFF. But I think that if you go

1683
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Speaker 5: to the site, you sign up for a subscription, man,

1684
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:50,720
Speaker 5: you will not be disappointed. You will get some serious

1685
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:55,679
Speaker 5: analysis and a lot of contextual analysis as well. It's

1686
01:13:55,720 --> 01:14:00,240
Speaker 5: not just numbers man like, it's guys that love football

1687
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:03,760
Speaker 5: and have watched football for decades man. And that's the

1688
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:07,040
Speaker 5: kind of contextual you know, writing that you're gonna get

1689
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Speaker 5: on the site as well.

1690
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Speaker 3: He is James d.

1691
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Speaker 14: Coo.

1692
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Speaker 3: Follow him at James d.

1693
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Speaker 4: Coo on X and on the Gram and yeah, he's

1694
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:16,559
Speaker 4: the best in the business. Argue with the wall if

1695
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:19,120
Speaker 4: you got a problem with that. James, thanks for doing

1696
01:14:19,160 --> 01:14:22,920
Speaker 4: this back here on the FNA takeover of Fox Sports Radio.

1697
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:25,639
Speaker 3: All right too, Oh good stuff, James, Thank you. Man,

1698
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:27,400
Speaker 3: I missed him. It's been too long.

1699
01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:30,559
Speaker 4: He's a staple on the FNA show. Yeah, James co

1700
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:34,799
Speaker 4: check him out. Perception Perception dot Com wrote.

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Speaker 2: A wired called cover of the NFL. As far as

1702
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Speaker 2: fantasy goes.

1703
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Speaker 3: He is passionate.

1704
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Speaker 4: He does it in an entertaining fashion, so he can

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Speaker 4: make some of my new show with the stats and

1706
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:46,080
Speaker 4: the analytics a little bit more digestible for you.

1707
01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:48,680
Speaker 2: So, Adam, you do something passionately. Oh and that is

1708
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Speaker 2: your geeking news segments. So what do we have coming

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Speaker 2: up next segment?

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Speaker 4: You know there's another show that's three episodes in that

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Speaker 4: I highly recommend for you.

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Speaker 4: We're listening to Adam Oslin and Kevin Figures here on

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Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Back in the f and a takeover of Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Kevin Figures, Adam Austin here with you on Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Hit us up on the Socials at k FIG one

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Speaker 4: We're on the west side of Little California, caation for

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Speaker 4: you here and you know what, we're bringing it back.

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Speaker 4: We did it week one here on the f and

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Speaker 4: a takeover of FSR BRE.

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Speaker 5: Hit It Nurse.

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Speaker 3: to come case this.

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Speaker 15: been chining online with FABS all day.

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Speaker 1: Just keep your Powell close.

1730
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Speaker 3: Up her path race watch out Kenviln.

1731
01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:45,280
Speaker 4: You know, Kevin, We've talked a lot of TV and

1732
01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:48,599
Speaker 4: movies and geek news over the years, and I've had

1733
01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:51,920
Speaker 4: plenty of reviews, but I do find myself going to

1734
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:54,479
Speaker 4: the theater less and less as I get older, and

1735
01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:57,280
Speaker 4: considering most of the movies end up on streaming in

1736
01:15:57,400 --> 01:15:58,200
Speaker 4: like a month or two.

1737
01:15:58,280 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 3: Anyways, you don't really need to go.

1738
01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:02,360
Speaker 2: And well, especially with the tickets going up to like

1739
01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:04,160
Speaker 2: thirty seven dollars to go to a movie, and that's

1740
01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 2: just the ticket itself, that doesn't count the popcorn or

1741
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:08,400
Speaker 2: whatever unhealthy, unhealthy crap you want to buy to eat.

1742
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:10,960
Speaker 4: Person kick in the back of your chair annoying you

1743
01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:13,360
Speaker 4: the entire time, so then you want to throw your

1744
01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:15,599
Speaker 4: drink that costed fifteen dollars on them.

1745
01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:17,679
Speaker 2: The kids yelling and screaming at the air, like, lady,

1746
01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:19,960
Speaker 2: why did you bring your kid to like a Halloween movie?

1747
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:22,680
Speaker 3: What's wrong with you? This is Halloween?

1748
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:27,639
Speaker 4: You know. We're also able to live in this golden

1749
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:31,679
Speaker 4: era of television. So I'm here to plead with everyone

1750
01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:35,360
Speaker 4: listening to watch this particular show because if you don't,

1751
01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 4: we may not get to a second season. And I

1752
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:42,360
Speaker 4: can't have this discontinued like Winning Time Was or mind

1753
01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:46,720
Speaker 4: Hunter or Rome. I will not let another family guy

1754
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:50,680
Speaker 4: or arrested development situations take place, or firefly.

1755
01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:52,800
Speaker 3: Or we have to wait years for it to re emerge.

1756
01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:57,760
Speaker 4: I need your eyeballs on this eyeball monster that's in

1757
01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:00,800
Speaker 4: this show. I'm talking about a Alien.

1758
01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:05,080
Speaker 3: Earth just came out. Okay, Oh yeah, Mark with the TV.

1759
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:08,200
Speaker 2: Show based on the movie franchise that has five thousand

1760
01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:09,040
Speaker 2: movies already out.

1761
01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:12,080
Speaker 3: Well, this is the thing here we mentioned in passing

1762
01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:12,760
Speaker 3: last week.

1763
01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:15,720
Speaker 4: I already have recommended it to everybody, but I want

1764
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:17,839
Speaker 4: to take it a step further because we're three episodes

1765
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:20,080
Speaker 4: in and it's looking really good. Okay, this is the

1766
01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:23,000
Speaker 4: best thing that has happened for the Alien franchise since

1767
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 4: Aliens in nineteen eighty six, or maybe David Fincher's Alien

1768
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 4: three Special Edition version.

1769
01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:31,720
Speaker 3: I've lost count Yeah. Are there predators in this TV

1770
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 3: show too?

1771
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:35,400
Speaker 4: Or not yet? Okay, but if we get to enough seasons, Kevin,

1772
01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:36,640
Speaker 4: we may get some predators.

1773
01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:38,880
Speaker 3: Now you're thinking, I like this ray, We'll get Arnold

1774
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 3: in there? Why not?

1775
01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:43,679
Speaker 4: Most of the time, Yes, the legacy sequels are bad.

1776
01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:47,479
Speaker 4: The TV shows based off of movies are bad. But

1777
01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 4: the guy who's adapting the movies to television here is

1778
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:56,120
Speaker 4: the showrunner for Fargo, so he's already done it, which

1779
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 4: praised with the Coen Brothers movie Fargo that turned into

1780
01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:03,360
Speaker 4: a great sea that's on FX, just like Alien Earth.

1781
01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:05,840
Speaker 4: Now he just has to adapt the old Alien movies

1782
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:07,760
Speaker 4: into this, and he's doing a great job so far.

1783
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:10,960
Speaker 4: Alien Earth is incredible. Like I'm three episodes in and

1784
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:13,400
Speaker 4: I'm already saying game over, man, It's game over, but

1785
01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:16,960
Speaker 4: in a good way. Like Kenny Smith after Vince Carter

1786
01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:19,960
Speaker 4: had that big dunk in the Dunk Contest in two

1787
01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:24,120
Speaker 4: thousand and was saying, let's go home, Superman.

1788
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's over, ladies and gentlemen. Like this show is here.

1789
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:31,519
Speaker 3: It is that good.

1790
01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:36,080
Speaker 4: The tone is perfect. It feels like the successor to

1791
01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:41,280
Speaker 4: Ridley Scott's and James Cameron's interpretations of aliens, Alien and

1792
01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:46,160
Speaker 4: Aliens respectively. They did those two movies great directors. Now

1793
01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:50,760
Speaker 4: there's some interesting plot lines. There's cyborgs in it, there's synthetics,

1794
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:53,479
Speaker 4: there's hybrids. It focuses and opens up the world a

1795
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:56,519
Speaker 4: little bit more so. It's not just aliens because you

1796
01:18:56,600 --> 01:19:00,840
Speaker 4: know they gotta fill ten episodes a season. There's hybrid aliens, well,

1797
01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:04,400
Speaker 4: hybrid people, hybrid people. It's it's complicated.

1798
01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:07,640
Speaker 3: So those half alien half people, I mean that was

1799
01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:09,640
Speaker 3: an alien resurrection.

1800
01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:15,200
Speaker 4: A rider and the basketball scene with Sigourney Weaver where

1801
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 4: she really makes that shot where she throws it behind her.

1802
01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 3: You're right, there have been a lot of different.

1803
01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:23,360
Speaker 4: This is the one that's going to work though, Alien Earths,

1804
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:28,120
Speaker 4: the TV version is going to work. They're exploring deep

1805
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:31,680
Speaker 4: philosophical questions like what it means to be human, all

1806
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:36,000
Speaker 4: while having aesthetically pleasing action scenes with the Xeno Morph

1807
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:38,880
Speaker 4: going maximum carnage on a bunch of soldiers.

1808
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:43,280
Speaker 3: Yes, hide the women and children from this FX show.

1809
01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:46,920
Speaker 4: It is. It is. I don't know if it's raded

1810
01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 4: R how they do TV ratings, but you know it's

1811
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:51,439
Speaker 4: on FX for a reason. I'm excited for this show.

1812
01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:55,160
Speaker 4: We're three episodes in. I want you guys to watch along,

1813
01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:58,920
Speaker 4: so more people are checking it out, and the ratings

1814
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:01,160
Speaker 4: boost happens and there's a big spike and we get

1815
01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:03,840
Speaker 4: a season two. Because I think this could be Dare

1816
01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 4: I say the next epic like Game of Thrones?

1817
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:09,160
Speaker 2: Sounds like that zombie show that was on forever that

1818
01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:11,240
Speaker 2: people got tired of and they adapted it for TV.

1819
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:13,680
Speaker 3: But instead of zombies, it's Aliens the Walking Dead.

1820
01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:17,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, that one, okay, Now, that had a couple good

1821
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:18,920
Speaker 4: seasons and then fell off quickly.

1822
01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:20,439
Speaker 3: This will not, I promise Kevin.

1823
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:23,439
Speaker 2: Speaking of falling off quickly, we'll talk about some athletes

1824
01:20:23,479 --> 01:20:25,599
Speaker 2: who add to have a resurrection On Fox Sports Radio.

1825
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:29,479
Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

1826
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:30,840
Speaker 3: That's right, find a lot.

1827
01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:33,240
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1828
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:36,280
Speaker 2: Austin here on FSSR. Hit us up on the socials

1829
01:20:36,360 --> 01:20:38,840
Speaker 2: at follow Adam a is where you can find Adam on.

1830
01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:41,000
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1831
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 4: Remember if the best pregame show every weekend, be sure

1832
01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:48,200
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1833
01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:51,479
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1834
01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:55,040
Speaker 4: to noon Eastern six to nine am Pacific. We will

1835
01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:58,040
Speaker 4: count you down to all of the biggest games. Tune

1836
01:20:58,160 --> 01:21:01,160
Speaker 4: in to count Down presented by Bette every Saturday and

1837
01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:04,040
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1838
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:05,800
Speaker 4: iHeartRadio app.

1839
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:07,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of big games, it is week zero of

1840
01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:10,200
Speaker 2: the college football season coming up just a few hours

1841
01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:12,880
Speaker 2: from now, so we will get into that this hour,

1842
01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:16,519
Speaker 2: huge game in the Big twelve across the pond in Ireland,

1843
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:19,080
Speaker 2: So we'll talk about that coming up in a little bit.

1844
01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:21,680
Speaker 2: But this is an interesting thing that Adam and I

1845
01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:24,840
Speaker 2: were discussing a little bit earlier on Friday, when it

1846
01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:30,120
Speaker 2: comes to players and athletes who for whatever reason don't

1847
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:33,360
Speaker 2: necessarily succeed in their first stop. It could be injuries,

1848
01:21:33,479 --> 01:21:36,800
Speaker 2: it could be other circumstances, and we wonder whether or

1849
01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:38,400
Speaker 2: not there are some athletes who just don't get a

1850
01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:41,040
Speaker 2: fair shot and then all of a sudden, the circumstances

1851
01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:43,400
Speaker 2: follow their way. You know, lo behold, they end up

1852
01:21:43,439 --> 01:21:46,080
Speaker 2: having a pretty damn good career when it's all said

1853
01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:46,400
Speaker 2: and done.

1854
01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:49,080
Speaker 4: You know, our friend Petro's Papadakis likes to say football

1855
01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:55,280
Speaker 4: is often circumstantial. I would say sports in general apply there,

1856
01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:58,000
Speaker 4: like it matters who you go to, what team you

1857
01:21:58,240 --> 01:22:00,760
Speaker 4: end up on, the opportunity you're going to get, the

1858
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:04,360
Speaker 4: reps you're going to get out there. So a lot

1859
01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:06,760
Speaker 4: of this comes down to right place, right time.

1860
01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:08,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it really does. It really does.

1861
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:14,600
Speaker 4: Like going no Breebery was bringing this topic up initially

1862
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:19,000
Speaker 4: because what we've seen with Baker Mayfield, this is somebody

1863
01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:22,640
Speaker 4: that was going to be a perennial backup after what

1864
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:25,519
Speaker 4: happened with the Cleveland Browns, and I felt like he

1865
01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:27,519
Speaker 4: kind of got a raw deal there. And then applies

1866
01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:29,920
Speaker 4: to this theme because he helped them get to the

1867
01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:33,120
Speaker 4: playoffs and win their first playloff game since what the

1868
01:22:33,240 --> 01:22:36,280
Speaker 4: early nineties with Bill Belichick, Like he was that.

1869
01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:40,400
Speaker 3: Good for them, they let him go. He bounces around.

1870
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:43,920
Speaker 4: The Carolina Panthers passed on him even though he made

1871
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:46,680
Speaker 4: some good passes for them. And now he's what a

1872
01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:49,400
Speaker 4: two time Pro Bowler with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and

1873
01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 4: one of the best quarterbacks in the league.

1874
01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:53,479
Speaker 2: Lest we forget him beating the Raiders after being with

1875
01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:54,880
Speaker 2: the Rams for about three days.

1876
01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:59,200
Speaker 3: I'll never forget that one. I remember that very vividly.

1877
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:03,920
Speaker 4: Some guys regain an elite status as he had coming

1878
01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:04,800
Speaker 4: out of Oklahoma.

1879
01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:06,280
Speaker 3: Yes, he's got it back.

1880
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:09,439
Speaker 4: Now he is a made man in the NFL. He

1881
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:12,200
Speaker 4: has his own team. They're the favors to win their

1882
01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:14,759
Speaker 4: division again. Now there could be their self inflicted wounds.

1883
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:16,280
Speaker 4: A lot of times when it comes to this too.

1884
01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:18,960
Speaker 4: You know, Baker Mayfield probably would admit it. He wasn't

1885
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:20,800
Speaker 4: the most mature when he came out of Oklahoma.

1886
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:23,880
Speaker 2: A lot of dancing, yeah, look at a lot of

1887
01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:27,759
Speaker 2: six ads and a lot of notoriety before he actually

1888
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:30,000
Speaker 2: did anything on the NFL playing field, and that might

1889
01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:32,880
Speaker 2: have affected his psyche as well. I think back to

1890
01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:35,360
Speaker 2: Brett Farr. People don't remember the fact that Brett Farvv

1891
01:23:35,479 --> 01:23:37,720
Speaker 2: was in Atlanta. Yeah, he was the second round pick

1892
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:39,600
Speaker 2: of the Falcons because he was a little bit of

1893
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:42,400
Speaker 2: a head case and he didn't get along with Jerry Glanville. Now, granted,

1894
01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:44,760
Speaker 2: most people didn't get along with Jerry Glanville. He was

1895
01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:47,320
Speaker 2: a little bit of a loose cannon, to say the least.

1896
01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:50,760
Speaker 2: But they shipped him off, and obviously he ends up

1897
01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:52,360
Speaker 2: being one of the greatest quarterbacks in the history of

1898
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:55,120
Speaker 2: the sport. I guess would he have turned into that

1899
01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:57,240
Speaker 2: had he not been traded from Atlanta, None of us.

1900
01:23:57,320 --> 01:23:58,120
Speaker 3: I guess we'll never know.

1901
01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:02,040
Speaker 4: Baker Mayfield definitely had a chip on his shoulder even

1902
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:07,599
Speaker 4: during his time with the Browns, But on him, he's

1903
01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:11,879
Speaker 4: shortened stature, he's chippy, he's fiery out there.

1904
01:24:12,160 --> 01:24:15,400
Speaker 3: He's a gamer, Actually, I think so.

1905
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:20,400
Speaker 4: I'm a fan like honestly, I like seeing guys that

1906
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:24,000
Speaker 4: bet on themselves that eventually find a home.

1907
01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:25,000
Speaker 3: He's done.

1908
01:24:25,080 --> 01:24:29,519
Speaker 4: So he's been magnificent with the Buccaneers, but he probably

1909
01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:31,960
Speaker 4: should still be with the Cleveland Browns. That's just the

1910
01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:35,479
Speaker 4: bar was so low there, and yet they still moved

1911
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:38,519
Speaker 4: on from him, and therefore he qualifies as somebody getting

1912
01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:41,040
Speaker 4: a raw deal. And that's what we're talking about here.

1913
01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:43,920
Speaker 4: So we got some other examples. You want to give

1914
01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:44,959
Speaker 4: me one of yours.

1915
01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:45,160
Speaker 3: Here, Kevin.

1916
01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:47,400
Speaker 2: What I thought of, and it does hit close to home,

1917
01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:50,320
Speaker 2: was rich Gannon. Now, rich Gannon was a backup for

1918
01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:53,000
Speaker 2: the Minnesota Vikings. Was actually drafted as a defensive back.

1919
01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:56,880
Speaker 2: Didn't have the greatest completion percentage, didn't have the strongest arm,

1920
01:24:57,360 --> 01:24:59,720
Speaker 2: but was very scrappy. Plucky, I think is a word

1921
01:24:59,720 --> 01:25:01,360
Speaker 2: that a lot of people would use. He was a

1922
01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:04,600
Speaker 2: plucky quarterback. Was a backup in Minnesota, bounced around a

1923
01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:07,519
Speaker 2: little bit, went to Kansas City. Elvis Gerback gets injured.

1924
01:25:07,880 --> 01:25:09,960
Speaker 2: He steps in and I think he leads him to

1925
01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:11,519
Speaker 2: an eight and eight record or something and has some

1926
01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:12,439
Speaker 2: pretty good numbers.

1927
01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:14,479
Speaker 3: But Elvis comes back healthy. They go with him.

1928
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:17,280
Speaker 2: He ends up on the free agent market. The Raiders

1929
01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:19,400
Speaker 2: have no idea what they're doing with their head coach

1930
01:25:19,479 --> 01:25:21,960
Speaker 2: named John Gruden, who's thirty something years old and has

1931
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:23,680
Speaker 2: never been a coach before, and it says, I like

1932
01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:25,599
Speaker 2: this Gannon guy. I think he can run my offense.

1933
01:25:26,080 --> 01:25:28,640
Speaker 2: And the Raiders have the greatest three year run that

1934
01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:31,000
Speaker 2: they've had in the last fifty years in the early

1935
01:25:31,080 --> 01:25:34,040
Speaker 2: two thousands, making it to two AFC Championship games and

1936
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:36,160
Speaker 2: won Super Bowl. Of course, John Gruden with the Buccaneers

1937
01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:38,840
Speaker 2: ended up defeating them, But nobody thought that Rich Gannon

1938
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:40,680
Speaker 2: at the age of like thirty five or thirty six,

1939
01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:42,439
Speaker 2: by the way, he was old when he actually got

1940
01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:44,559
Speaker 2: his opportunity to be the guy.

1941
01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:46,640
Speaker 3: On a team, and he went on to be a

1942
01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:48,280
Speaker 3: perennial Pro bowler in an MVP.

1943
01:25:48,640 --> 01:25:51,479
Speaker 4: Did he win the MVP outright or did he share

1944
01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:53,800
Speaker 4: it with Steve McNair, mimus.

1945
01:25:53,520 --> 01:25:56,360
Speaker 2: Steve nair shared it with Peyton Manning that one year.

1946
01:25:56,439 --> 01:25:58,120
Speaker 2: I forget what year that was, but he won that

1947
01:25:58,400 --> 01:26:00,200
Speaker 2: award outright. In the two thousand and two that was

1948
01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:01,760
Speaker 2: the year they lost to the Bucks in the Super Bowl.

1949
01:26:01,880 --> 01:26:04,680
Speaker 4: Dominant with the West Coast offense throwing it to two

1950
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:07,400
Speaker 4: forty year olds on the outside with Tim Brown and

1951
01:26:07,520 --> 01:26:08,200
Speaker 4: Jerry Rice.

1952
01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:09,760
Speaker 3: That's honestly one of.

1953
01:26:09,800 --> 01:26:13,680
Speaker 4: The craziest things when you look back at wide receivers,

1954
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:18,839
Speaker 4: guys at the skill position at that age, just wearing

1955
01:26:19,160 --> 01:26:22,800
Speaker 4: out young defensive backs. That was a special time in

1956
01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:25,080
Speaker 4: the NFL. That was a special Raiders team that probably

1957
01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:26,679
Speaker 4: should have won at least one Super Bowl.

1958
01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:26,920
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1959
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:28,720
Speaker 2: You had Tim Brown and Jerry Rice who were like

1960
01:26:28,840 --> 01:26:31,599
Speaker 2: thirty eight and thirty seven respectively or something, and both

1961
01:26:31,640 --> 01:26:33,920
Speaker 2: of them had thousand yard seasons, both of them ten

1962
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:34,960
Speaker 2: plus touchdowns.

1963
01:26:35,320 --> 01:26:36,440
Speaker 3: It really was remarkable.

1964
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:39,000
Speaker 4: Now, I have some examples of guys getting a raw deal,

1965
01:26:39,160 --> 01:26:41,840
Speaker 4: but they don't necessarily see the pot of gold at

1966
01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:44,519
Speaker 4: the end of the rainbow. Oh, they don't necessarily see

1967
01:26:44,520 --> 01:26:47,760
Speaker 4: the promise of redemption story, but they definitely qualify as

1968
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:50,720
Speaker 4: raw deals. Okay, we'll stick with the quarterback theme here.

1969
01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:55,080
Speaker 4: Our friend Rodney Pete, Oh yeah, you know, he arrived

1970
01:26:55,160 --> 01:26:57,839
Speaker 4: in Carolina in two thousand and two and the Panthers

1971
01:26:57,880 --> 01:27:01,080
Speaker 4: are coming off a one in fifteen season and Kevin.

1972
01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:03,960
Speaker 4: They were lucky they didn't play seventeen games back then

1973
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:06,800
Speaker 4: because it would have been one in sixteen, I promise you,

1974
01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:10,799
Speaker 4: Chris Wanki he was old and busted as a rookie

1975
01:27:10,920 --> 01:27:12,960
Speaker 4: because he was thirty what basically, I think he was

1976
01:27:13,000 --> 01:27:16,400
Speaker 4: twenty nine when he entered the NFL. That was their

1977
01:27:16,439 --> 01:27:19,360
Speaker 4: starting quarterback. They go out and get Rodney Pete from

1978
01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:21,160
Speaker 4: the Raiders at that time.

1979
01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:22,160
Speaker 3: I think that it was.

1980
01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:26,160
Speaker 2: Marcus Tuyasa Sopo who they drafted, who beat who took

1981
01:27:26,240 --> 01:27:28,280
Speaker 2: his place? Well, if I had to give you not

1982
01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:29,840
Speaker 2: that most people want to hear about the history of

1983
01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:32,200
Speaker 2: the Raiders. First of all, the only reason Rodney Pete

1984
01:27:32,439 --> 01:27:35,439
Speaker 2: was a Raider was because the previous year in the

1985
01:27:35,479 --> 01:27:39,320
Speaker 2: AFC Championship game, Tony Sierragusa separate separator rich Gannon's shoulder

1986
01:27:39,439 --> 01:27:41,519
Speaker 2: intentionally and there was a No. I don't want to

1987
01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:43,880
Speaker 2: call him a nobody and be disrespectful. There's a guy

1988
01:27:43,960 --> 01:27:46,000
Speaker 2: named Bobby Hoying who nobody had ever heard of, who

1989
01:27:46,040 --> 01:27:48,280
Speaker 2: was rich Gannon's backup, and they had to throw him

1990
01:27:48,280 --> 01:27:50,080
Speaker 2: in there against one of the greatest defenses in the

1991
01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:51,800
Speaker 2: history of the sport, in the Baltimore Ravens.

1992
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:54,840
Speaker 4: Was he a former Seahawk or a Saint? Bobby Joyns

1993
01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:56,559
Speaker 4: sure don't matter.

1994
01:27:56,840 --> 01:27:57,479
Speaker 3: It didn't matter.

1995
01:27:57,840 --> 01:28:00,320
Speaker 2: So to avoid that from happening, they went out and

1996
01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:02,720
Speaker 2: signed Rodney Pete to be Rich Cannon's backup in two

1997
01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:05,720
Speaker 2: thousand and one. And of course two thousand and one

1998
01:28:06,479 --> 01:28:08,920
Speaker 2: was the Tucker Rule game. So Rodney laments all the

1999
01:28:08,960 --> 01:28:10,760
Speaker 2: time how he was on the sideline when the entire

2000
01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:13,280
Speaker 2: Tuck Rule situation with Tom Brady happened. So that was

2001
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:15,000
Speaker 2: the one year that Rodney was with the Raiders was

2002
01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:17,479
Speaker 2: to be Rich's backup. And that year in the draft

2003
01:28:17,479 --> 01:28:20,479
Speaker 2: they drafted Marcus tu Yasosopo out of Washington to be

2004
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:22,920
Speaker 2: to groom him to be the quarterback and waiting behind Rich.

2005
01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:23,960
Speaker 2: Of course that didn't work out.

2006
01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:26,439
Speaker 4: Well, that's you reliving your pain with the Raiders. I

2007
01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:28,960
Speaker 4: really lives some of mine with the Panthers here. So

2008
01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:32,599
Speaker 4: George Seaford comes in, but got fired after that one

2009
01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:35,519
Speaker 4: in fifteen season. Remember he said he'd bring them a

2010
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:38,160
Speaker 4: super Bowl. Instead, he brought them their worst year ever.

2011
01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:40,880
Speaker 3: He brought the super Bowl experience that he had from

2012
01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:41,600
Speaker 3: San Francisco.

2013
01:28:41,800 --> 01:28:43,639
Speaker 4: He did, where was that he brought that with mounted

2014
01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:48,639
Speaker 4: to Jack John Fox took over with Jack del Rio

2015
01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:51,280
Speaker 4: as his defensive coordinator. That's where I was going with that.

2016
01:28:52,040 --> 01:28:56,160
Speaker 4: And Rodney Pete, at the age of thirty seven, took

2017
01:28:56,240 --> 01:28:59,320
Speaker 4: over in the two thousand and two season and they

2018
01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:02,479
Speaker 4: went from a one in fifteen team to a seven

2019
01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:05,760
Speaker 4: to nine team. They won six more games thanks to

2020
01:29:05,920 --> 01:29:09,600
Speaker 4: Rodney Pete Steven Davis running the football in a revamped

2021
01:29:09,680 --> 01:29:13,200
Speaker 4: defense after they drafted Julius Peppers, but Rodney Pete gave

2022
01:29:13,280 --> 01:29:16,320
Speaker 4: them stability at the quarterback position they hadn't had in

2023
01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:19,160
Speaker 4: Carolina since a couple of years with the West Coast

2024
01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:20,880
Speaker 4: offense in George Seaford.

2025
01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:24,040
Speaker 3: Being paired up with Steve Burlin. That Rodney Pete was

2026
01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:26,840
Speaker 3: critical to them. Steve Berlin another former Raider great by

2027
01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:27,120
Speaker 3: the way.

2028
01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:33,040
Speaker 4: The very next season, Rodney Pete goes in at the

2029
01:29:33,120 --> 01:29:38,519
Speaker 4: starter and in the first game of the year, he

2030
01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:42,640
Speaker 4: gets passed over at the half when they're down seventeen

2031
01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:47,000
Speaker 4: to nothing. He gets benched for Jake dell Ome, a

2032
01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:51,679
Speaker 4: guy who couldn't start in the NFL Europe because Kurt

2033
01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:54,360
Speaker 4: Warner was in front of him, couldn't start for the

2034
01:29:54,479 --> 01:29:57,400
Speaker 4: lowly Saints, which is pathetic.

2035
01:29:57,560 --> 01:29:59,040
Speaker 3: I mean, how could that happen?

2036
01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:03,439
Speaker 4: And somehow they noticed he had some player to him

2037
01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:08,200
Speaker 4: during the offseason during training camp, during the preseason, and

2038
01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:12,360
Speaker 4: Rodney Pete goes from getting them six more wins the

2039
01:30:12,439 --> 01:30:16,160
Speaker 4: year before to being benched for Jake dell Ome at

2040
01:30:16,240 --> 01:30:19,120
Speaker 4: the half in Game one the very next season.

2041
01:30:19,680 --> 01:30:20,439
Speaker 3: Well, what happens.

2042
01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:25,519
Speaker 4: Jake dell Ome has an amazing comeback, throws a touchdown

2043
01:30:25,560 --> 01:30:28,439
Speaker 4: to Ricky Proll in that first game on a fourth

2044
01:30:28,479 --> 01:30:31,240
Speaker 4: and eleven. The rest is history is they go to

2045
01:30:31,320 --> 01:30:35,040
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl and eventually lose to the Patriots. Rodney

2046
01:30:35,080 --> 01:30:39,679
Speaker 4: Pete only threw one more pass in his career after

2047
01:30:39,840 --> 01:30:41,400
Speaker 4: being benched for Jake dell Ome.

2048
01:30:41,520 --> 01:30:43,760
Speaker 2: I would say that's a bit of a raw deal.

2049
01:30:44,200 --> 01:30:47,400
Speaker 2: It's a raw deal. It's really hard to argue against it. Obviously,

2050
01:30:47,479 --> 01:30:50,960
Speaker 2: I love Rodney. When the result is basically just losing

2051
01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:54,000
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl by mere seconds because John Casey kicks

2052
01:30:54,040 --> 01:30:56,000
Speaker 2: the ball out of bounds and gives Tom Brady thirty

2053
01:30:56,080 --> 01:30:56,720
Speaker 2: yards to work with.

2054
01:30:56,800 --> 01:30:58,559
Speaker 4: Maybe Rodney Pete would have won that Super Bowl.

2055
01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:02,200
Speaker 2: Man, who knows it's possible. Here's one for Major League

2056
01:31:02,200 --> 01:31:04,600
Speaker 2: Baseball that I think a lot of people forget. Do

2057
01:31:04,720 --> 01:31:07,320
Speaker 2: you remember that David Ortiz started his career with the

2058
01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:11,280
Speaker 2: Minnesota Twins oh yeah, Yeah, started with the Minnesota Twins,

2059
01:31:11,400 --> 01:31:14,479
Speaker 2: and because he was up on arbitrade and he was

2060
01:31:14,520 --> 01:31:16,439
Speaker 2: a good player, he was not He didn't turn into

2061
01:31:16,520 --> 01:31:18,960
Speaker 2: big poppy David Ortiz like he was in Boston. But

2062
01:31:19,040 --> 01:31:21,000
Speaker 2: he was a good, solid, productive player for the Twins

2063
01:31:21,040 --> 01:31:24,439
Speaker 2: at the time. But coming up on arbitration, knew they'd

2064
01:31:24,479 --> 01:31:26,320
Speaker 2: have to pay him, didn't want to do it. And

2065
01:31:26,439 --> 01:31:29,400
Speaker 2: they also had Matt Lukroi, who most people outside of

2066
01:31:29,439 --> 01:31:32,200
Speaker 2: Minnesota probably don't even know who that is, lined up

2067
01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:34,000
Speaker 2: as the DH and they thought that he was a

2068
01:31:34,080 --> 01:31:37,360
Speaker 2: better fit for them at DH than David Ortiz. So

2069
01:31:37,439 --> 01:31:39,559
Speaker 2: they decided to let David Ortiz walk away in free

2070
01:31:39,560 --> 01:31:42,519
Speaker 2: agency and sign with the Boston Red Sox. If you're

2071
01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:45,839
Speaker 2: the Minnesota Twins, you realize you could have had David Ortiz,

2072
01:31:46,760 --> 01:31:50,240
Speaker 2: Joe Mauer, and Justin Morena all at the same time,

2073
01:31:50,680 --> 01:31:54,240
Speaker 2: all on their prime. They fumbled big time. This is

2074
01:31:54,360 --> 01:31:58,600
Speaker 2: Ernest Byner fumbling in the red zone. Yeah, Minnesota, that

2075
01:31:58,880 --> 01:32:00,760
Speaker 2: I mean talking about not getting it.

2076
01:32:00,960 --> 01:32:01,040
Speaker 4: Now.

2077
01:32:01,120 --> 01:32:03,320
Speaker 3: He got his shot with Boston and it probably ended

2078
01:32:03,400 --> 01:32:05,439
Speaker 3: up being better for it. But you talk about it

2079
01:32:05,439 --> 01:32:07,360
Speaker 3: an egregious air in judgment.

2080
01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:12,120
Speaker 4: Probably Kevin is an absolute legend because of what he

2081
01:32:12,200 --> 01:32:15,040
Speaker 4: did in two thousand and four definitely fumbled the bag

2082
01:32:15,080 --> 01:32:17,160
Speaker 4: that the Minnesota Twins when it came to devid Ortiz.

2083
01:32:17,720 --> 01:32:23,000
Speaker 4: Minnesota had who was it Santana as they're starting to

2084
01:32:24,080 --> 01:32:28,720
Speaker 4: Francisco Lynn d'Or before his arm fell off. They had

2085
01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:33,640
Speaker 4: some teams Francisco Ariano and they couldn't get over the

2086
01:32:33,720 --> 01:32:37,599
Speaker 4: hump against the Yankees multiple years, just like the A's

2087
01:32:37,760 --> 01:32:43,000
Speaker 4: back then couldn't in a divisional early series. They kept losing. Yeah,

2088
01:32:43,120 --> 01:32:45,760
Speaker 4: Minnesota was one of those teams that was always in

2089
01:32:45,840 --> 01:32:48,439
Speaker 4: the hunt and just couldn't figure it out. All right,

2090
01:32:48,520 --> 01:32:51,599
Speaker 4: I got another raw deal and while it ended up great,

2091
01:32:52,479 --> 01:32:55,040
Speaker 4: just like the Panthers moving on from Rodney Pete, I

2092
01:32:55,200 --> 01:32:58,799
Speaker 4: still think this guy kind of got screwed. Eddie Jones,

2093
01:32:59,560 --> 01:33:02,840
Speaker 4: Eddie with the Los Angeles Lakers. I don't think people

2094
01:33:03,000 --> 01:33:07,400
Speaker 4: realize how highly touted he was. This was during the

2095
01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:10,920
Speaker 4: era of Who's going to be the next MJ. It's

2096
01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:15,400
Speaker 4: the mid nineties. All these Jordan clones are coming into

2097
01:33:15,479 --> 01:33:18,519
Speaker 4: the league and Eddie Jones was one of them.

2098
01:33:19,320 --> 01:33:21,200
Speaker 3: He ends up in just his.

2099
01:33:21,360 --> 01:33:26,200
Speaker 4: Third year being passed by by Kobe Bryant, who gets

2100
01:33:26,280 --> 01:33:30,040
Speaker 4: drafted in nineteen ninety six, Eddie Jones is out there

2101
01:33:30,600 --> 01:33:33,400
Speaker 4: on the fast track to be a superstar. Like he'p

2102
01:33:33,479 --> 01:33:36,680
Speaker 4: had multiple All Star games, he was in, he was

2103
01:33:37,160 --> 01:33:38,719
Speaker 4: on all defensive teams.

2104
01:33:39,320 --> 01:33:43,320
Speaker 3: He looked the part. He looked like, you know, the.

2105
01:33:43,400 --> 01:33:47,400
Speaker 4: First generation iPhone and stuff like he was the first

2106
01:33:47,479 --> 01:33:52,320
Speaker 4: generation Kobe. He even wore the number six, looks like eight.

2107
01:33:52,840 --> 01:33:55,080
Speaker 4: They kind of had a resemblance with the way they

2108
01:33:55,160 --> 01:33:59,080
Speaker 4: cut their hair. Before Kobe grew his out. There were

2109
01:33:59,160 --> 01:34:02,720
Speaker 4: times where a few Quinn Eddie Jones looked like Kobe.

2110
01:34:02,520 --> 01:34:06,559
Speaker 3: Bryant out there. He was a phenomenal athlete. He had

2111
01:34:06,640 --> 01:34:06,960
Speaker 3: it all.

2112
01:34:07,400 --> 01:34:09,800
Speaker 4: Michael Jordan complimented him on being one of the best

2113
01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:13,439
Speaker 4: defenders on him and the Lakers looked like they were

2114
01:34:13,520 --> 01:34:15,960
Speaker 4: invested in him, that he was going to be the

2115
01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:19,599
Speaker 4: guy they paired with Shack. But Jerry West drafts Kobe

2116
01:34:19,640 --> 01:34:24,760
Speaker 4: Bryant and then two years later, Eddie Jones ends up

2117
01:34:24,800 --> 01:34:29,200
Speaker 4: getting traded to the Charlotte Hornets, who traded Kobe Bryant

2118
01:34:29,560 --> 01:34:34,719
Speaker 4: to the Lakers to begin with. Eddie Jones never fulfilled

2119
01:34:34,760 --> 01:34:37,439
Speaker 4: that potential that he had, sure didn't, but he was

2120
01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:42,840
Speaker 4: very high and I think there's an alternate universe where

2121
01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:46,559
Speaker 4: he stays on with the Lakers and he's Shacks running

2122
01:34:46,600 --> 01:34:48,920
Speaker 4: mate to a couple championships.

2123
01:34:48,960 --> 01:34:51,160
Speaker 2: Now, both of us have been critical of Kobe Bryant

2124
01:34:51,200 --> 01:34:55,120
Speaker 2: throughout his career. Even if Eddie Jones stays there with

2125
01:34:55,160 --> 01:34:56,880
Speaker 2: the Lakers, he ain't turn it into Kobe.

2126
01:34:57,280 --> 01:34:58,960
Speaker 3: He's not turned into Kobe.

2127
01:34:59,240 --> 01:35:01,560
Speaker 4: But I'll say that he might have been able to

2128
01:35:01,600 --> 01:35:04,240
Speaker 4: get to a place that was good enough to pair

2129
01:35:04,400 --> 01:35:07,920
Speaker 4: with Peak Shack as good as and as dominant as

2130
01:35:08,000 --> 01:35:10,640
Speaker 4: he was to win a championship.

2131
01:35:10,680 --> 01:35:12,240
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'd be willing to go that far,

2132
01:35:12,320 --> 01:35:14,320
Speaker 2: because I mean, what was holding him back when he

2133
01:35:14,360 --> 01:35:16,360
Speaker 2: went to Charlotte or when he went to Miami from

2134
01:35:16,439 --> 01:35:18,080
Speaker 2: taking that next step? And it's not like he was

2135
01:35:18,280 --> 01:35:21,040
Speaker 2: he was playing with Zoe, he was playing with I

2136
01:35:21,080 --> 01:35:22,920
Speaker 2: guess Larry Johnson at left at that point in time,

2137
01:35:23,160 --> 01:35:25,719
Speaker 2: there was nobody getting in his way of taking that next.

2138
01:35:25,600 --> 01:35:27,519
Speaker 3: Step and that next arc of being a great player.

2139
01:35:27,600 --> 01:35:28,040
Speaker 3: It's fair.

2140
01:35:28,280 --> 01:35:30,360
Speaker 4: So I mean it's also fair to say, you know,

2141
01:35:30,680 --> 01:35:33,720
Speaker 4: depression could set in when you get passed over and

2142
01:35:33,800 --> 01:35:36,720
Speaker 4: you leave LA like that and you're watching the guy

2143
01:35:36,840 --> 01:35:39,600
Speaker 4: who took your spot go on to become.

2144
01:35:39,400 --> 01:35:40,840
Speaker 3: One of the all time greats.

2145
01:35:40,840 --> 01:35:42,320
Speaker 4: And by the way, I think it is the late

2146
01:35:42,360 --> 01:35:46,280
Speaker 4: great Kobe Bryant's birthday today. We should acknowledge that here.

2147
01:35:46,560 --> 01:35:49,719
Speaker 4: But I do think Eddie Jones he didn't do anything wrong.

2148
01:35:49,880 --> 01:35:51,439
Speaker 4: He didn't do anything wrong. It could be a raw

2149
01:35:51,520 --> 01:35:52,320
Speaker 4: deal situation.

2150
01:35:52,520 --> 01:35:54,240
Speaker 3: No, no, I'm not saying it wasn't a raw.

2151
01:35:54,160 --> 01:35:55,760
Speaker 2: Deal, and certain like he certainly could have been an

2152
01:35:55,760 --> 01:35:57,760
Speaker 2: effective role player for those teams if nothing else would

2153
01:35:57,760 --> 01:35:58,120
Speaker 2: have been right.

2154
01:35:58,240 --> 01:36:01,759
Speaker 3: He was a two time all Sorry, I don't disagree

2155
01:36:01,800 --> 01:36:01,920
Speaker 3: with that.

2156
01:36:02,040 --> 01:36:04,320
Speaker 2: All right, Obviously, with the ascension of Kobe is he

2157
01:36:04,400 --> 01:36:06,160
Speaker 2: was gonna take more of a back seat, and they

2158
01:36:06,200 --> 01:36:07,040
Speaker 2: played basically the.

2159
01:36:07,040 --> 01:36:09,920
Speaker 3: Similar position, Okay, and they traded him. They traded him

2160
01:36:09,920 --> 01:36:12,000
Speaker 3: for Glenn Rice. Is that what that trade was? That

2161
01:36:12,280 --> 01:36:12,800
Speaker 3: sounds right?

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01:36:12,920 --> 01:36:13,080
Speaker 12: Yeah?

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01:36:13,160 --> 01:36:13,759
Speaker 3: With Charlotte.

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01:36:13,840 --> 01:36:17,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, he never got the coaching from Phil Jackson, he

2165
01:36:18,160 --> 01:36:21,759
Speaker 4: didn't get a lot of the perks that Kobe Bryant

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01:36:21,880 --> 01:36:22,559
Speaker 4: ended up getting.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying I don't know. On Earth too, Eddie

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01:36:25,840 --> 01:36:28,599
Speaker 3: Jones is doing some stuff. Yeah, you're not wrong, You're

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01:36:28,640 --> 01:36:28,960
Speaker 3: not wrong.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I will consider this a raw deal,

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01:36:31,240 --> 01:36:32,680
Speaker 2: but it's more of like just a point back in

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01:36:32,720 --> 01:36:34,519
Speaker 2: the face, kind of a gotcha to the LA Rams

2173
01:36:34,560 --> 01:36:34,880
Speaker 2: at the time.

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Speaker 3: And that's Jerome Bettis.

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Speaker 5: Oh.

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Speaker 2: Jerome Bettis started his career the first couple of years

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Speaker 2: of his career with the Los Angeles Rams, and I

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01:36:41,439 --> 01:36:43,439
Speaker 2: think he's played his last year in Saint Louis when

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Speaker 2: they first moved. But Rich Brooks, the former great coach

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01:36:47,000 --> 01:36:49,639
Speaker 2: at Oregon, got the head coaching job at the Rams.

2181
01:36:49,680 --> 01:36:51,639
Speaker 2: It wanted to be more of a pass happy offense

2182
01:36:51,640 --> 01:36:54,200
Speaker 2: and didn't think that Jerome fit and thought that Jerome

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01:36:54,479 --> 01:36:56,840
Speaker 2: was not really not conducive to the kind office they

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01:36:56,880 --> 01:36:58,680
Speaker 2: wanted to run. So they said, I will ship him

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Speaker 2: out of here. We're gonna roll the ball around a

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01:37:00,720 --> 01:37:03,120
Speaker 2: little bit and open things up. Well, Rich Brooks got

2187
01:37:03,160 --> 01:37:04,720
Speaker 2: fired after a year and a half at the job

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01:37:05,439 --> 01:37:07,960
Speaker 2: with the Rams, and Jerome Benness went on to be

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01:37:08,000 --> 01:37:09,519
Speaker 2: one of the greatest running backs in the history of

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Speaker 2: the sport and obviously ended his career with the Super

2191
01:37:11,560 --> 01:37:13,519
Speaker 2: Bowl ring in his hometown of Detroit with the Steelers

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Speaker 2: beating the Seattle Seahawks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah so they should have gave the bus a permanent

2194
01:37:17,800 --> 01:37:20,120
Speaker 3: parking spot in LA Yeah, absolutely so.

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01:37:20,400 --> 01:37:23,120
Speaker 2: Talk Abaull fumbling the bag, not getting a fair shot

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01:37:23,360 --> 01:37:25,040
Speaker 2: because they didn't think he'd fit in that offense.

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Speaker 3: Well, he fit pretty damn perfectly in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: And Rich Brooks, who went back and had a cup

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01:37:30,120 --> 01:37:32,600
Speaker 2: of coffee in college at Kentucky really never to be

2200
01:37:32,640 --> 01:37:35,280
Speaker 2: heard Froim again. While Jerome bettis one of the great

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Speaker 2: running backs in NFL history.

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Speaker 4: And still amazing to me though that everybody forgets he

2203
01:37:40,320 --> 01:37:42,600
Speaker 4: would have been the goat and the wrong way. He

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01:37:42,640 --> 01:37:45,719
Speaker 4: would have been the scapegoat had they lost that game

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01:37:46,160 --> 01:37:48,760
Speaker 4: to the Colts where he bumbled it at the one

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Speaker 4: yard line.

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Speaker 3: Nobody remembers that now I mean.

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01:37:51,840 --> 01:37:56,760
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Colton because the Colts defender and I forget who

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01:37:56,840 --> 01:37:58,680
Speaker 2: it is. And there's probably a Colt fan listening who

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01:37:58,720 --> 01:38:02,160
Speaker 2: does this is insane who picked it up, was hobbled

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01:38:02,600 --> 01:38:04,800
Speaker 2: because he had was it a domestic issue the night

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01:38:04,840 --> 01:38:06,920
Speaker 2: before and it's like his girlfriend stabbed him in his

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Speaker 2: leg or something.

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Speaker 3: We're making number I'm not making this up. Yeah, he

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01:38:12,040 --> 01:38:13,360
Speaker 3: got stabbed. I don't know if it was a number

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01:38:13,360 --> 01:38:15,320
Speaker 3: two pencil. Yeah, it might have been a kitchen knife.

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01:38:15,360 --> 01:38:17,719
Speaker 3: But he got stabbed by his wife or his girlfriend.

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01:38:17,760 --> 01:38:20,000
Speaker 2: It was a domestic issue like the night before the game,

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01:38:20,080 --> 01:38:23,599
Speaker 2: so he was hobbled, which allowed Ben Roethlisberger to actually

2220
01:38:23,640 --> 01:38:25,000
Speaker 2: slow him down and tackle him.

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Speaker 3: Then that ended up saving the game for the Steelers.

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01:38:27,479 --> 01:38:31,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, that is a form of final destination, maybe a

2223
01:38:31,880 --> 01:38:35,080
Speaker 4: PG version of her because nobody ended up actually dying.

2224
01:38:35,120 --> 01:38:37,160
Speaker 3: But you think about all the things.

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01:38:37,000 --> 01:38:39,760
Speaker 4: That had to go right for the Pittsburgh Steelers to

2226
01:38:39,920 --> 01:38:41,840
Speaker 4: end up winning a Super Bowl. Where by the way,

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01:38:41,960 --> 01:38:44,680
Speaker 4: now Seahawks fans are about to start calling in and

2228
01:38:44,800 --> 01:38:47,680
Speaker 4: say how they got screwed Chad Hutchinson tripping by the

2229
01:38:47,840 --> 01:38:50,200
Speaker 4: officials in that Super Bowl.

2230
01:38:50,400 --> 01:38:51,880
Speaker 3: So everything had to go right.

2231
01:38:52,000 --> 01:38:54,280
Speaker 4: But the bus was a part of it, obviously. All Right,

2232
01:38:54,280 --> 01:38:57,000
Speaker 4: I got somebody that got a raw deal. And you

2233
01:38:57,120 --> 01:39:01,080
Speaker 4: may disagree with this, but I think it's accurate when

2234
01:39:01,120 --> 01:39:04,639
Speaker 4: you look at the dysfunction of the Sacramento.

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01:39:04,160 --> 01:39:07,919
Speaker 3: Kings and where they have been over the years, basically

2236
01:39:08,040 --> 01:39:13,880
Speaker 3: since two thousand and six, they did not deserve to

2237
01:39:14,040 --> 01:39:20,439
Speaker 3: draft Jimmer Ferdett. I believe Jimmer Ferdett was ruined Vivlati

2238
01:39:20,520 --> 01:39:25,080
Speaker 3: Diva and the Sacramento Kings and the constant state they

2239
01:39:25,120 --> 01:39:29,040
Speaker 3: were in of just ineptitude and dysfunction.

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Speaker 2: So the Kings are the reason why Jimmer Fredette is

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01:39:32,280 --> 01:39:34,800
Speaker 2: a star now overseas and is not playing in the NBA.

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01:39:35,040 --> 01:39:38,240
Speaker 4: Yes, he got a raw deal by being drafted by

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01:39:38,280 --> 01:39:42,320
Speaker 4: the Sacramento Kings. There is no reason why he can't

2244
01:39:42,320 --> 01:39:45,160
Speaker 4: at least be Luke Canard in today's NBA.

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01:39:46,960 --> 01:39:49,200
Speaker 16: The case he fought back to the NBA after he

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01:39:49,280 --> 01:39:50,160
Speaker 16: went overseas, he.

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01:39:50,360 --> 01:39:54,360
Speaker 4: Tried and then he went to another pathetics franchise, the

2248
01:39:54,439 --> 01:39:57,040
Speaker 4: Phoenix Suns. Sounds like his bad choices on his part

2249
01:39:57,080 --> 01:40:02,280
Speaker 4: at this points after But the Sacramento Kings, it's tough

2250
01:40:02,360 --> 01:40:05,360
Speaker 4: to get that stench off of you when you're drafted

2251
01:40:05,600 --> 01:40:09,439
Speaker 4: tenth ahead of Klay Thompson and Kawhi Leonard and the

2252
01:40:09,560 --> 01:40:12,880
Speaker 4: expectations were that high and he never had a chance

2253
01:40:12,960 --> 01:40:13,640
Speaker 4: in Sacramento.

2254
01:40:13,760 --> 01:40:15,519
Speaker 2: I'm hearing what you're saying, but I mean the Aaron

2255
01:40:15,560 --> 01:40:17,680
Speaker 2: Fox was fine before they shipped him off.

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01:40:17,880 --> 01:40:20,720
Speaker 3: Kind of yeah, you traded for Sabonis. He's been fine, Boy,

2257
01:40:21,880 --> 01:40:24,760
Speaker 3: he was fine. I don't know. I am I'm a

2258
01:40:24,880 --> 01:40:26,840
Speaker 3: Jimmer for debt truther. Is that okay?

2259
01:40:27,000 --> 01:40:29,760
Speaker 4: There is no reason in the modern NBA a guy

2260
01:40:29,880 --> 01:40:33,479
Speaker 4: that can shoot that well shouldn't have succeeded, and I

2261
01:40:33,600 --> 01:40:34,800
Speaker 4: blamed the Kings because of it.

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01:40:35,120 --> 01:40:37,320
Speaker 3: I'm sorry he got a raw deal. Maybe he's just

2263
01:40:37,360 --> 01:40:39,559
Speaker 3: not good enough to cut it at the NBA.

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01:40:41,000 --> 01:40:44,160
Speaker 4: Seventy for the shang Hai Sharks. You tell me that

2265
01:40:44,240 --> 01:40:46,080
Speaker 4: guy's not good enough perfect.

2266
01:40:46,400 --> 01:40:48,160
Speaker 2: We want to hear for you guys, though, Do you

2267
01:40:48,280 --> 01:40:50,760
Speaker 2: guys have stories of an athlete that you don't think

2268
01:40:50,800 --> 01:40:53,200
Speaker 2: got a fair shot, whether with his first franchise, first

2269
01:40:53,240 --> 01:40:56,519
Speaker 2: head coach, and hopefully on the other side, came out

2270
01:40:56,560 --> 01:40:58,559
Speaker 2: of it looking a little bit better, like Baker Mayfield

2271
01:40:58,560 --> 01:41:00,640
Speaker 2: like we started talking about earlier in the same or

2272
01:41:00,760 --> 01:41:03,600
Speaker 2: someone like Jerome Bettis. Eight seven seven ninety nine on

2273
01:41:03,680 --> 01:41:06,439
Speaker 2: Fox is the phone number. Eight seven seven nine nine

2274
01:41:06,560 --> 01:41:09,240
Speaker 2: six six three six nine is the telephone number if

2275
01:41:09,280 --> 01:41:11,479
Speaker 2: you guys want to check in and talking about athletes

2276
01:41:11,720 --> 01:41:14,160
Speaker 2: that did not get a fair shot to start their careers.

2277
01:41:14,280 --> 01:41:16,160
Speaker 4: Jimmy, you're not doing anything if you want to call

2278
01:41:16,240 --> 01:41:18,080
Speaker 4: in and confirm what I already know.

2279
01:41:18,560 --> 01:41:22,599
Speaker 3: He's playing until the Sacramento case ruined you. Please, Jimmer

2280
01:41:22,680 --> 01:41:25,320
Speaker 3: Fdad call in. I think Olympiacosa is about to tip

2281
01:41:25,400 --> 01:41:25,840
Speaker 3: off right now.

2282
01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:28,120
Speaker 4: I may not be Mormon, but I wanted more from

2283
01:41:28,160 --> 01:41:31,120
Speaker 4: that man? All right, more Fox Sports Radio with Kevin

2284
01:41:31,160 --> 01:41:32,960
Speaker 4: Figgers and Adam Mosley coming up next.

2285
01:41:33,439 --> 01:41:36,320
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2286
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2288
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Speaker 3: Welcome back in Fox Sports Saturday FNA takeover of FSR.

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Speaker 4: I'm ada Maslim. We got k fake here, gonna be

2291
01:41:53,040 --> 01:41:55,360
Speaker 4: with you guys. Third week in a row we've been

2292
01:41:55,439 --> 01:41:58,519
Speaker 4: on in this time slot. I hope we don't get

2293
01:41:58,600 --> 01:42:01,479
Speaker 4: cut like the NFL cuts on Tuesday. You know. No,

2294
01:42:01,600 --> 01:42:03,599
Speaker 4: boy kind of worried about that, but I never got

2295
01:42:03,680 --> 01:42:04,720
Speaker 4: a key card to begin with.

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01:42:04,880 --> 01:42:04,960
Speaker 5: So.

2297
01:42:06,439 --> 01:42:08,160
Speaker 4: Sound like I'm going to try to use it and

2298
01:42:08,200 --> 01:42:10,280
Speaker 4: doesn't levy in the door or anything like that. Kevin,

2299
01:42:10,680 --> 01:42:12,280
Speaker 4: I don't know. I think we'll be all right. Yeah,

2300
01:42:12,280 --> 01:42:13,519
Speaker 4: we'll be okay, We'll be all right.

2301
01:42:13,600 --> 01:42:15,960
Speaker 2: Well, I'll let you guys in here on Fox Sports

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01:42:16,040 --> 01:42:18,040
Speaker 2: Raido to chime in on the topic we were talking

2303
01:42:18,080 --> 01:42:20,240
Speaker 2: about last segment as far as athletes that did not

2304
01:42:20,479 --> 01:42:22,280
Speaker 2: get a fair shot at their first stop.

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01:42:22,560 --> 01:42:24,240
Speaker 4: If you guys want to chime in here, give us

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01:42:24,240 --> 01:42:27,519
Speaker 4: a ring. Eight seven seven nine to nine on Fox.

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01:42:27,920 --> 01:42:30,800
Speaker 4: Let's start with Corey in Reno. Corey, what's going on?

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01:42:31,600 --> 01:42:32,120
Speaker 5: Heany guys?

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Speaker 13: Thanks for the call.

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01:42:33,400 --> 01:42:37,240
Speaker 17: Yeah, this was a fantastic, dynamic player that lasted about

2311
01:42:37,280 --> 01:42:39,200
Speaker 17: two seasons in the NBA and it was a late

2312
01:42:39,320 --> 01:42:43,120
Speaker 17: seventies early eighties. He was doing dropping like thirty a

2313
01:42:43,200 --> 01:42:46,240
Speaker 17: game propelled the Blazers into the playoffs and was doing

2314
01:42:46,400 --> 01:42:49,559
Speaker 17: Jordan's styles, dunks from the free throw line before anybody

2315
01:42:49,640 --> 01:42:54,200
Speaker 17: knew who Jordan was. But sadly, about two seasons in

2316
01:42:54,360 --> 01:42:54,920
Speaker 17: and that was it.

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01:42:55,120 --> 01:42:57,439
Speaker 13: And his name was Billy Ray Bates. I don't know

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01:42:57,479 --> 01:43:00,479
Speaker 13: if you guys remember him or not, but exciting just

2319
01:43:00,800 --> 01:43:03,640
Speaker 13: was just phenomenal. But you know, it's a you know,

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01:43:03,800 --> 01:43:07,160
Speaker 13: Portland market that was smaller, and uh, I think he

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01:43:07,240 --> 01:43:10,240
Speaker 13: had a lot of well off the court curriculars that

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01:43:10,320 --> 01:43:12,920
Speaker 13: he was doing and uh but that guy should have

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01:43:12,960 --> 01:43:15,439
Speaker 13: been something and he really was for those couple of seasons,

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01:43:15,560 --> 01:43:17,040
Speaker 13: he was magnificent.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know the name there, Corey, And thanks

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01:43:19,200 --> 01:43:21,240
Speaker 2: for the call. Man appreciated. Yeah, you know, I mean

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01:43:21,560 --> 01:43:24,280
Speaker 2: sports unfortunately is littered with you know names like that.

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01:43:24,439 --> 01:43:26,960
Speaker 2: I mean I think of when Bias, you know, the

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01:43:27,000 --> 01:43:29,560
Speaker 2: Celtics is when you mentioned something on Somebody that his

2330
01:43:29,680 --> 01:43:31,880
Speaker 2: career never even started, never got off the ground, and

2331
01:43:32,000 --> 01:43:34,160
Speaker 2: his off court demons ended up costing him his life

2332
01:43:34,200 --> 01:43:36,920
Speaker 2: before his career began. But I mean, he was supposed

2333
01:43:36,960 --> 01:43:38,719
Speaker 2: to be the next guy to kind of keep carrying

2334
01:43:38,760 --> 01:43:41,639
Speaker 2: the Celtic legacy after Bird and McHale and those guys

2335
01:43:41,680 --> 01:43:43,840
Speaker 2: phased out, and unfortunately he wasn't able to do that.

2336
01:43:44,040 --> 01:43:48,599
Speaker 4: You think about Boston obviously the tragic death with Len Bias,

2337
01:43:49,280 --> 01:43:53,080
Speaker 4: but also Reggie Lewis in the nineties, right, Ye, how

2338
01:43:53,160 --> 01:43:58,160
Speaker 4: much further does their dynasty extend out to where they

2339
01:43:58,240 --> 01:44:01,519
Speaker 4: went from not winning a champion shift from eighty six

2340
01:44:01,680 --> 01:44:06,040
Speaker 4: till two thousand and eight with the Boston Three party

2341
01:44:06,600 --> 01:44:10,200
Speaker 4: with KG Ray, Allen, Paul Pierce and obviously Rondo is

2342
01:44:10,200 --> 01:44:13,160
Speaker 4: a part of that too, but it is we're talking

2343
01:44:13,280 --> 01:44:16,120
Speaker 4: some what if stories as well. I guess they somewhat

2344
01:44:16,200 --> 01:44:20,280
Speaker 4: intersect here with some of the raw deal athlete theme

2345
01:44:20,360 --> 01:44:23,360
Speaker 4: that we got going. Yeah, absolutely absolutely, eight seven seven

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01:44:23,439 --> 01:44:25,200
Speaker 4: ninety nine on Fox is the phone number.

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01:44:25,320 --> 01:44:27,720
Speaker 3: Let's go to Poppy in San Diego. Poppy, what's going on?

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01:44:28,320 --> 01:44:28,720
Speaker 12: What's going on?

2349
01:44:29,080 --> 01:44:29,240
Speaker 4: Hey?

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01:44:29,360 --> 01:44:31,280
Speaker 12: The one player there? And I think that they didn't

2351
01:44:31,280 --> 01:44:33,880
Speaker 12: give a freshound from the Texas David Carr. You know,

2352
01:44:34,000 --> 01:44:36,400
Speaker 12: he went into an expansion team, the Houston Tech. There

2353
01:44:36,840 --> 01:44:40,160
Speaker 12: he had no offensive line. He got sacked like seventy

2354
01:44:40,439 --> 01:44:42,840
Speaker 12: six times in his rookie year. Accurate, he didn't get

2355
01:44:42,840 --> 01:44:45,360
Speaker 12: a you know, a fair chance. And the thing what

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01:44:45,479 --> 01:44:48,320
Speaker 12: I'm going to be very excited tomorrow is a Ravens

2357
01:44:48,360 --> 01:44:50,479
Speaker 12: against the Commanders in the preseason game. I got a

2358
01:44:50,520 --> 01:44:52,959
Speaker 12: free pick three guys, and I'm gonna take the Baltimore

2359
01:44:53,000 --> 01:44:55,120
Speaker 12: Ravens minus two and a half. What are you guys thinking?

2360
01:44:55,560 --> 01:44:57,599
Speaker 4: Is that a lead pipe stone called Locke?

2361
01:44:58,120 --> 01:44:58,160
Speaker 5: Like?

2362
01:44:58,280 --> 01:44:59,120
Speaker 3: What is That's?

2363
01:44:59,400 --> 01:45:01,360
Speaker 4: That's serious? How many stars does that pick?

2364
01:45:01,560 --> 01:45:01,680
Speaker 5: Is this?

2365
01:45:01,800 --> 01:45:05,400
Speaker 3: Brandon Lang? Why are you so confident with taking the

2366
01:45:05,439 --> 01:45:06,479
Speaker 3: Baltimore minus to two?

2367
01:45:06,520 --> 01:45:06,640
Speaker 6: There?

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01:45:06,680 --> 01:45:08,680
Speaker 3: Papa, what's you? What's your thought process on that? I'm

2369
01:45:08,800 --> 01:45:09,360
Speaker 3: I'm intrigued.

2370
01:45:10,240 --> 01:45:13,920
Speaker 12: I'm very confident. You know, Coach Harbaugh he's giving these

2371
01:45:13,960 --> 01:45:16,040
Speaker 12: guys playing one hundred percent. And you know what, have

2372
01:45:16,160 --> 01:45:18,240
Speaker 12: you lived over there in the Maryland area. You know

2373
01:45:18,720 --> 01:45:20,680
Speaker 12: their rivals and they hate each other, so you know

2374
01:45:20,840 --> 01:45:23,160
Speaker 12: Ravens are going to go with it. They're all one

2375
01:45:23,240 --> 01:45:25,680
Speaker 12: hundred percent. I don't care whether the stars player or

2376
01:45:25,720 --> 01:45:28,280
Speaker 12: not the third fourth strings Raymons are going to dominate

2377
01:45:28,320 --> 01:45:30,479
Speaker 12: that game. So that's my that's my thought.

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01:45:30,680 --> 01:45:32,880
Speaker 4: Look, Poppy, I'm not saying that if you're betting on

2379
01:45:32,960 --> 01:45:35,920
Speaker 4: preseason football you have a problem. But have you had

2380
01:45:36,080 --> 01:45:39,040
Speaker 4: a lot of success betting on preseason football because.

2381
01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:40,240
Speaker 3: You just never know what you're going to get?

2382
01:45:40,960 --> 01:45:42,800
Speaker 12: Well, of course I have. You know, I got a

2383
01:45:43,080 --> 01:45:44,640
Speaker 12: you know, a show coming up or you know my

2384
01:45:44,760 --> 01:45:47,120
Speaker 12: mans up and Mallard. I've given picks out last season.

2385
01:45:47,320 --> 01:45:49,519
Speaker 12: You guys heard, I'm very successful and giving my pick.

2386
01:45:49,640 --> 01:45:52,639
Speaker 12: So I'm very excited just shopping the free picks for preseason,

2387
01:45:52,720 --> 01:45:56,240
Speaker 12: getting the balls going, the whales going for you know,

2388
01:45:56,320 --> 01:45:59,040
Speaker 12: football season. But we'll see what the game tomorrow and

2389
01:45:59,120 --> 01:45:59,800
Speaker 12: I'll see you guys.

2390
01:46:01,320 --> 01:46:03,479
Speaker 2: Thank you for the We'll be tracking for the advice

2391
01:46:03,560 --> 01:46:05,479
Speaker 2: on that. And I know, I mean you could say

2392
01:46:05,520 --> 01:46:07,720
Speaker 2: if you wanted to be this way, I'm not. But

2393
01:46:07,800 --> 01:46:11,280
Speaker 2: the Baltimore Ravens going undefeated in the preseason is kind

2394
01:46:11,320 --> 01:46:13,840
Speaker 2: of a thing. So it's not that far fetch that

2395
01:46:13,920 --> 01:46:15,680
Speaker 2: you would predict that they would be minus to two

2396
01:46:15,720 --> 01:46:16,439
Speaker 2: and get a victory.

2397
01:46:16,640 --> 01:46:19,080
Speaker 3: I think they won twenty four consecutive preseason games.

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01:46:19,080 --> 01:46:21,160
Speaker 4: At one point, I didn't know we also had a

2399
01:46:21,280 --> 01:46:24,799
Speaker 4: side from Benny versus the Penny. We'd have Poppy versus

2400
01:46:25,000 --> 01:46:28,240
Speaker 4: Benny giving out his own picks on them balor shows.

2401
01:46:28,280 --> 01:46:30,000
Speaker 3: I can't imagine that goes very well for Poppy, but

2402
01:46:30,040 --> 01:46:30,599
Speaker 3: I could be wrong.

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01:46:30,720 --> 01:46:32,640
Speaker 4: Interesting, Well, I think that's big Ben about that, all right?

2404
01:46:32,680 --> 01:46:38,519
Speaker 4: The theme is athletes who got a raw deal? Bbrie,

2405
01:46:38,800 --> 01:46:41,360
Speaker 4: this was your subject. You were able to connect it

2406
01:46:41,439 --> 01:46:44,400
Speaker 4: all together, starting with Baker Mayfield got a raw deal

2407
01:46:44,520 --> 01:46:45,800
Speaker 4: turn things around in his career.

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01:46:45,840 --> 01:46:47,360
Speaker 3: Anybody else like that you want to talk about it,

2409
01:46:47,360 --> 01:46:47,559
Speaker 3: I have.

2410
01:46:47,680 --> 01:46:50,439
Speaker 14: Like four athletes like whoa that went through my mind.

2411
01:46:50,520 --> 01:46:53,280
Speaker 14: But because it's me, I'm gonna go with Drew Brees.

2412
01:46:53,680 --> 01:46:55,640
Speaker 14: The fact that the Chargers let him go after he

2413
01:46:55,760 --> 01:46:59,839
Speaker 14: hurt his shoulders, right, and not only was it the Chargers,

2414
01:47:00,160 --> 01:47:01,840
Speaker 14: what other team could have had him?

2415
01:47:02,160 --> 01:47:03,880
Speaker 16: The Miami Dolphins and Nick Saban.

2416
01:47:04,240 --> 01:47:07,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, he ended up going with Culpepper instead, who got

2417
01:47:07,520 --> 01:47:10,160
Speaker 4: his knee busted up by Mike Mintter of the Carolina Panthers.

2418
01:47:10,200 --> 01:47:12,080
Speaker 2: I will say I think the Chargers had a convenient

2419
01:47:12,160 --> 01:47:15,800
Speaker 2: out with Drew Brees entering your shoulder. Philip Rivers had

2420
01:47:15,800 --> 01:47:18,040
Speaker 2: already been sitting behind him, that Breeze was playing so well.

2421
01:47:18,160 --> 01:47:20,320
Speaker 2: So the fact that Breeze separated his shoulder, it was like, well,

2422
01:47:20,360 --> 01:47:22,280
Speaker 2: the decisions made for us at this point because if

2423
01:47:22,280 --> 01:47:24,360
Speaker 2: Breeze had stayed healthy in the Chargers I mean, remember

2424
01:47:24,680 --> 01:47:26,960
Speaker 2: that was Antonio Gates and LT like they were winning

2425
01:47:27,000 --> 01:47:27,400
Speaker 2: the division.

2426
01:47:27,439 --> 01:47:28,920
Speaker 4: They were really good at that point and time, they

2427
01:47:28,920 --> 01:47:30,320
Speaker 4: were on the come up, and they had just had

2428
01:47:30,320 --> 01:47:31,160
Speaker 4: a really bad kicker.

2429
01:47:32,960 --> 01:47:34,519
Speaker 14: And I just think that that was one of the

2430
01:47:34,920 --> 01:47:37,000
Speaker 14: not the beginning of obviously the Chargers curse, but I

2431
01:47:37,000 --> 01:47:38,880
Speaker 14: think it just kind of like elevated another like one

2432
01:47:38,920 --> 01:47:40,720
Speaker 14: hundred years, you know, just kind of added to it.

2433
01:47:40,880 --> 01:47:43,360
Speaker 3: And that Katie was great during the regular season. Yeah,

2434
01:47:43,800 --> 01:47:44,240
Speaker 3: how do you do.

2435
01:47:44,280 --> 01:47:45,639
Speaker 4: Against the Jets in that playoffs?

2436
01:47:45,640 --> 01:47:47,559
Speaker 3: That's where I did. I just say the regular season.

2437
01:47:48,200 --> 01:47:49,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he got hurt in the Pro Bowl, as

2438
01:47:49,920 --> 01:47:52,880
Speaker 4: you mentioned there with the Drew Brees right, like we

2439
01:47:52,960 --> 01:47:55,760
Speaker 4: don't have the Pro Bowl now. But even though he

2440
01:47:55,920 --> 01:47:58,920
Speaker 4: hurt his shoulder, that's the one major injury that I

2441
01:47:58,960 --> 01:48:00,000
Speaker 4: can remember from the Pro Bowl.

2442
01:48:00,040 --> 01:48:01,640
Speaker 2: Well, I think he got injured the last game of

2443
01:48:01,680 --> 01:48:04,200
Speaker 2: the regular season against Denver if I remember correct, Is

2444
01:48:04,200 --> 01:48:04,479
Speaker 2: that right?

2445
01:48:04,560 --> 01:48:06,040
Speaker 3: It was the last game of the regular season.

2446
01:48:06,080 --> 01:48:07,439
Speaker 2: He was going to be a pending free agent, and

2447
01:48:07,479 --> 01:48:09,960
Speaker 2: he separated his shoulder, and for the charges, it was like,

2448
01:48:10,000 --> 01:48:12,240
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, never root for someone to get hurt,

2449
01:48:12,280 --> 01:48:14,400
Speaker 2: but again the decision was kind of made for him

2450
01:48:14,400 --> 01:48:15,040
Speaker 2: at that point in time.

2451
01:48:15,080 --> 01:48:17,640
Speaker 3: We drafted Philip Rivers a couple of years earlier, or

2452
01:48:17,640 --> 01:48:24,040
Speaker 3: the year earlier. This guy is injured year maybe I

2453
01:48:24,200 --> 01:48:25,400
Speaker 3: was thinking of Brian Mormon.

2454
01:48:25,439 --> 01:48:25,559
Speaker 8: Then.

2455
01:48:25,640 --> 01:48:28,080
Speaker 3: The only guy to really be hurt in the let

2456
01:48:28,160 --> 01:48:30,479
Speaker 3: up by the lady Sean Taylor, his ego was hurt.

2457
01:48:30,520 --> 01:48:32,720
Speaker 4: At least he did give Sean Taylor a pat on

2458
01:48:32,760 --> 01:48:34,519
Speaker 4: the back after that hard hitting the Pro Bowl.

2459
01:48:34,800 --> 01:48:35,960
Speaker 3: All right, what else you got?

2460
01:48:36,320 --> 01:48:37,080
Speaker 16: No, that was my own.

2461
01:48:37,120 --> 01:48:37,320
Speaker 10: That was.

2462
01:48:38,800 --> 01:48:39,040
Speaker 1: Four.

2463
01:48:39,520 --> 01:48:41,960
Speaker 16: I mean well, okay, David Ortiz was my other one.

2464
01:48:42,760 --> 01:48:44,240
Speaker 16: So that like, so that was funny that we were

2465
01:48:44,280 --> 01:48:44,439
Speaker 16: on the.

2466
01:48:44,439 --> 01:48:47,639
Speaker 4: Scene saying Kevin looked at your cheeks and then.

2467
01:48:48,040 --> 01:48:49,920
Speaker 14: I mean I was gonna say Sam Darnold and just

2468
01:48:50,000 --> 01:48:52,559
Speaker 14: like the Jets in general, I think it's just kind

2469
01:48:52,560 --> 01:48:54,879
Speaker 14: of something. And then went to the Vikings and Kevin O'Connell,

2470
01:48:54,920 --> 01:48:57,080
Speaker 14: I mean, that's kind of big, okay, okay, and then

2471
01:48:57,479 --> 01:48:59,560
Speaker 14: just maybe Steve Nash in the Mavericks. I mean, like,

2472
01:48:59,680 --> 01:49:01,840
Speaker 14: you know, they let him walk after him and Dirk

2473
01:49:02,120 --> 01:49:05,840
Speaker 14: could have been a dynamic duo, and then Mark Cuban

2474
01:49:05,960 --> 01:49:06,479
Speaker 14: just let him go.

2475
01:49:06,840 --> 01:49:10,840
Speaker 4: No, that is something that I think haunted Mark Cuban

2476
01:49:10,920 --> 01:49:13,320
Speaker 4: for a while, well not forever, because they still won

2477
01:49:13,360 --> 01:49:16,599
Speaker 4: the championship in twenty eleven, and they beat the Phoenix

2478
01:49:16,640 --> 01:49:19,080
Speaker 4: Suns in the playoffs. I think at one point to

2479
01:49:19,920 --> 01:49:22,240
Speaker 4: remember that part of it, I thought you were Phoenix Suns.

2480
01:49:22,280 --> 01:49:22,479
Speaker 5: Fair.

2481
01:49:22,720 --> 01:49:24,840
Speaker 16: No, it's fine, it's fine. I'm just saying that those

2482
01:49:24,840 --> 01:49:25,880
Speaker 16: are just a few of mine.

2483
01:49:25,920 --> 01:49:26,120
Speaker 3: Mark.

2484
01:49:26,200 --> 01:49:28,639
Speaker 4: I think that's his back was falling off, at least

2485
01:49:28,680 --> 01:49:31,000
Speaker 4: it was supposed to early on. It's and steady way

2486
01:49:31,080 --> 01:49:32,000
Speaker 4: until he got to the Lakers.

2487
01:49:32,160 --> 01:49:34,360
Speaker 3: Saved that for his leg for the Lakers tenure, Mark,

2488
01:49:34,439 --> 01:49:34,800
Speaker 3: What do you got?

2489
01:49:34,840 --> 01:49:35,000
Speaker 12: Mark?

2490
01:49:35,080 --> 01:49:37,880
Speaker 15: The one person that I thought about from many many

2491
01:49:37,960 --> 01:49:40,040
Speaker 15: months ago was a guy Mark Aguire used to be

2492
01:49:40,160 --> 01:49:43,720
Speaker 15: with Paul. I thought he was a great player, but

2493
01:49:43,920 --> 01:49:47,160
Speaker 15: somehow he just never got the right footing or the

2494
01:49:47,280 --> 01:49:51,439
Speaker 15: right team to continue and have a better career. And

2495
01:49:51,520 --> 01:49:55,320
Speaker 15: then also I was thinking there was a quarterback you

2496
01:49:55,360 --> 01:49:58,200
Speaker 15: wouldn't know him, Okay, fig he was I think you

2497
01:49:58,280 --> 01:50:00,880
Speaker 15: turned into a bus. But the last name Prior for

2498
01:50:00,960 --> 01:50:02,360
Speaker 15: the Raiders por.

2499
01:50:02,520 --> 01:50:02,720
Speaker 13: Yeah.

2500
01:50:02,760 --> 01:50:06,559
Speaker 15: We mentioned he was great in college and I thought

2501
01:50:06,600 --> 01:50:09,080
Speaker 15: he was gonna make it him the pros. But just whatever,

2502
01:50:09,439 --> 01:50:13,360
Speaker 15: things just his career just went away quickly. So I

2503
01:50:13,439 --> 01:50:15,960
Speaker 15: just thought he had a raw deal, didn't get the

2504
01:50:16,920 --> 01:50:19,880
Speaker 15: I guess the other training in Pros to make him a.

2505
01:50:19,920 --> 01:50:23,000
Speaker 3: Better guy, went to a bad organization. Well, that didn't help.

2506
01:50:23,160 --> 01:50:25,640
Speaker 2: And the fact his development as a passer just never

2507
01:50:25,800 --> 01:50:27,640
Speaker 2: was never there kind of what we're talking about with

2508
01:50:27,720 --> 01:50:29,880
Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson. Now, Anthony richards was a better passer than

2509
01:50:29,920 --> 01:50:32,360
Speaker 2: Torell Prior was at that point. But guys have to

2510
01:50:32,400 --> 01:50:34,400
Speaker 2: put in that personal work and actually go up and

2511
01:50:34,479 --> 01:50:37,240
Speaker 2: develop their skills and talents, and Torel Prior, unfortunately at

2512
01:50:37,240 --> 01:50:39,479
Speaker 2: the quarterback position, just wasn't able to do it.

2513
01:50:39,560 --> 01:50:42,760
Speaker 4: Wait, Mark, did you say Mark Aguire from the NBA? Yes,

2514
01:50:42,880 --> 01:50:46,040
Speaker 4: because he ended up with Detroit, right, he was a

2515
01:50:46,160 --> 01:50:49,200
Speaker 4: bad boy. Yeah, and while he didn't score as much,

2516
01:50:49,680 --> 01:50:51,639
Speaker 4: I think he got at least one of those rings

2517
01:50:51,680 --> 01:50:53,360
Speaker 4: they won those back to back years.

2518
01:50:53,479 --> 01:50:54,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, was he okay?

2519
01:50:54,920 --> 01:50:55,120
Speaker 5: Yeah?

2520
01:50:55,200 --> 01:50:58,519
Speaker 3: Because he came from Dallas, right, I'm not sure where.

2521
01:50:58,560 --> 01:51:01,000
Speaker 15: I just know he was a DePaul guy from Chicago,

2522
01:51:01,080 --> 01:51:03,000
Speaker 15: and then he got to the pros and I thought

2523
01:51:03,040 --> 01:51:05,240
Speaker 15: he was great, and I just thought he could have

2524
01:51:05,320 --> 01:51:07,479
Speaker 15: got a better deal.

2525
01:51:07,560 --> 01:51:10,519
Speaker 3: I thought he didn't get to the highest of highs. Well,

2526
01:51:10,560 --> 01:51:11,000
Speaker 3: he's a pro.

2527
01:51:11,280 --> 01:51:14,760
Speaker 4: You were right, because early years with Dallas, I mean

2528
01:51:15,240 --> 01:51:18,440
Speaker 4: he was averaging thirty per game. He kind of sacrificed

2529
01:51:18,479 --> 01:51:21,800
Speaker 4: his scoring to win in Detroit and take on that

2530
01:51:21,880 --> 01:51:24,800
Speaker 4: defensive mindset with the bad boys and Bill Lambert choking

2531
01:51:24,840 --> 01:51:25,599
Speaker 4: everybody out back.

2532
01:51:25,680 --> 01:51:27,000
Speaker 2: Then you know, you know, I got another one that

2533
01:51:27,080 --> 01:51:29,920
Speaker 2: just popped into my head as I'm looking at your

2534
01:51:30,040 --> 01:51:32,439
Speaker 2: white Sox hat over there, Mark, Oh, I'm thinking of

2535
01:51:32,520 --> 01:51:35,160
Speaker 2: a Chicago cub and I'm thinking of Bernie Banks.

2536
01:51:35,400 --> 01:51:37,000
Speaker 3: Ernie Banks, one of the great players in the history

2537
01:51:37,000 --> 01:51:39,200
Speaker 3: of the sport, never made the playoffs. That's a raw deal.

2538
01:51:39,280 --> 01:51:41,000
Speaker 3: We talked about that a couple of weeks ago.

2539
01:51:41,200 --> 01:51:43,800
Speaker 4: Never made the postseason a day single, good home runs,

2540
01:51:43,840 --> 01:51:45,840
Speaker 4: but never was on a team to get to the

2541
01:51:45,880 --> 01:51:47,799
Speaker 4: playoff or get anywhere close to anything.

2542
01:51:47,920 --> 01:51:49,559
Speaker 3: That is the rawlest of raw deals.

2543
01:51:49,560 --> 01:51:51,439
Speaker 2: That you can get to play for an organization for

2544
01:51:51,520 --> 01:51:53,439
Speaker 2: what twenty years or something like that and not even

2545
01:51:53,439 --> 01:51:54,240
Speaker 2: sniff the playoffs.

2546
01:51:54,280 --> 01:51:55,439
Speaker 3: One time. That's hard to do.

2547
01:51:56,040 --> 01:52:00,400
Speaker 4: That's a disservice to him and the league not being

2548
01:52:00,439 --> 01:52:03,400
Speaker 4: able to see that talent on the biggest stage, which

2549
01:52:03,400 --> 01:52:05,120
Speaker 4: I think we paralleled with Mike Truck.

2550
01:52:05,000 --> 01:52:06,639
Speaker 3: Mike Trout. Yeah, thats where we're talking about. A couple

2551
01:52:06,640 --> 01:52:08,719
Speaker 3: of weeks ago, our guy Eloy from Compton.

2552
01:52:08,800 --> 01:52:11,040
Speaker 4: By the way, his weight in. Tell me if you

2553
01:52:11,120 --> 01:52:13,000
Speaker 4: think this guy got a raw deal, I think there's

2554
01:52:13,040 --> 01:52:17,719
Speaker 4: something to it. The Rosen one, Josh Rosen got drafted

2555
01:52:17,760 --> 01:52:21,840
Speaker 4: by the Cardinals. He was all the rage at UCLA,

2556
01:52:22,240 --> 01:52:25,280
Speaker 4: even though it's not like it amounted to him doing

2557
01:52:25,439 --> 01:52:27,360
Speaker 4: that much, but he projected to.

2558
01:52:27,400 --> 01:52:28,920
Speaker 3: The pro player.

2559
01:52:29,000 --> 01:52:30,640
Speaker 2: I mean that come back against Texas A and m

2560
01:52:30,680 --> 01:52:32,519
Speaker 2: on opening weekend was pretty epic.

2561
01:52:32,960 --> 01:52:36,879
Speaker 4: Fair in the pros. Though he got passed over pretty quick.

2562
01:52:36,920 --> 01:52:39,040
Speaker 3: After one year. They drafted Kyler Murray. They had very

2563
01:52:39,120 --> 01:52:41,439
Speaker 3: next season. Yeah, and then he bounced around. He ended

2564
01:52:41,520 --> 01:52:43,640
Speaker 3: up in Miami. Yeah, Josh Rosen, yep.

2565
01:52:44,040 --> 01:52:46,719
Speaker 4: So he didn't exactly get it much of a runway

2566
01:52:47,160 --> 01:52:47,920
Speaker 4: to show what he could do.

2567
01:52:48,120 --> 01:52:50,600
Speaker 2: But again, if you're talented enough and humble enough, and

2568
01:52:50,640 --> 01:52:53,280
Speaker 2: there are questions about his humility and how we approached

2569
01:52:53,280 --> 01:52:54,000
Speaker 2: certain things, and.

2570
01:52:54,080 --> 01:52:55,920
Speaker 3: Because he had a hot tub and a dorm room.

2571
01:52:56,040 --> 01:52:58,719
Speaker 2: Well not only that that he could be a little

2572
01:52:58,760 --> 01:53:01,240
Speaker 2: smug and air again and talking about being the smartest

2573
01:53:01,240 --> 01:53:02,880
Speaker 2: person in the room, and they kind of rubbed people

2574
01:53:02,920 --> 01:53:04,800
Speaker 2: the wrong way. So if you're gonna be that way,

2575
01:53:05,240 --> 01:53:06,960
Speaker 2: if you're gonna be that, if you're gonna be that way,

2576
01:53:07,000 --> 01:53:09,920
Speaker 2: you better be Aaron Rodgers. If you're not Aaron Rodgers,

2577
01:53:10,080 --> 01:53:12,640
Speaker 2: you could end up being in the XFL or the

2578
01:53:12,760 --> 01:53:13,720
Speaker 2: UFL or something right now.

2579
01:53:13,760 --> 01:53:15,320
Speaker 3: If that's even where Josh Rosen is. I don't even

2580
01:53:15,320 --> 01:53:16,040
Speaker 3: know where he is right now.

2581
01:53:16,280 --> 01:53:18,519
Speaker 4: Personality did him in, Yeah, didn't help him.

2582
01:53:18,560 --> 01:53:21,360
Speaker 3: I think he's working an enterprise. Nothing wrong with that, nothing.

2583
01:53:21,439 --> 01:53:24,320
Speaker 4: I just I thought I saw him in a commercial recently.

2584
01:53:24,320 --> 01:53:26,639
Speaker 3: I don't know. Got the big nose is Kevin figures

2585
01:53:26,680 --> 01:53:28,479
Speaker 3: Adam Alston here on Fox Sports Saturday.

2586
01:53:28,560 --> 01:53:31,599
Speaker 2: Coming up in the next segment one of our favorite segments,

2587
01:53:31,800 --> 01:53:32,559
Speaker 2: Breeze three.

2588
01:53:32,800 --> 01:53:34,760
Speaker 3: Breeze three coming up next. What is the what is

2589
01:53:34,800 --> 01:53:35,800
Speaker 3: the topic for Breeze three?

2590
01:53:35,840 --> 01:53:37,840
Speaker 16: Bree Well, talk about it after the break when you

2591
01:53:37,920 --> 01:53:38,320
Speaker 16: get back.

2592
01:53:38,479 --> 01:53:43,639
Speaker 3: Sorry, I'll excuse me. Oh well, I forgot.

2593
01:53:43,680 --> 01:53:47,200
Speaker 16: Oh your favorite storts? Your favorite sports documentary?

2594
01:53:47,320 --> 01:53:47,920
Speaker 3: Really on fire?

2595
01:53:47,960 --> 01:53:48,439
Speaker 4: To yes?

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Speaker 3: I know, I'm on our own spiral radio death. How

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Speaker 3: dare you? Kevin figures Adam Alston on Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Back in Fox Sports Saturday, Kevin figures Adam Alston with

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Speaker 2: you guys Before we get to Breeze three, I do

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01:54:00,320 --> 01:54:02,280
Speaker 2: have a couple of takes on college football because it

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Speaker 2: is week zero. Coming up later this afternoon, we have

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Speaker 2: twenty to twenty second ranked Iowa State in seventeenth the

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01:54:07,600 --> 01:54:10,200
Speaker 2: rank Kansas State in Dublin, Ireland. I don't know if

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01:54:10,240 --> 01:54:11,960
Speaker 2: you're gonna be up bright and early at nine am

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01:54:12,040 --> 01:54:13,280
Speaker 2: West Coast time to watch that game.

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01:54:13,320 --> 01:54:15,400
Speaker 3: They're at them. No, I hear.

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01:54:15,479 --> 01:54:18,040
Speaker 4: What happens in week zero stays in week zero, So

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01:54:18,160 --> 01:54:20,200
Speaker 4: even if you win, it doesn't help your record.

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01:54:20,320 --> 01:54:21,040
Speaker 3: It's like Vegas.

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Speaker 2: That's not necessarily how that was, though you would think

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01:54:23,120 --> 01:54:24,679
Speaker 2: if it was called week zero that'd be the case.

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Speaker 2: But both schools were turning starting quarterbacks Rock go Becked

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01:54:28,120 --> 01:54:30,439
Speaker 2: and Avery Johnson. Should be a really good game, like

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Speaker 2: Iowa State. Maybe a hot take here, maybe not. If

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01:54:32,720 --> 01:54:34,760
Speaker 2: think Iowa State actually ends up winning the Big Twelve Conference.

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01:54:34,800 --> 01:54:36,520
Speaker 2: For them to do that, they have to win this

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Speaker 2: game coming up this afternoon. So I'm looking forward to that.

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Speaker 4: Do you think either of these teams gets into the

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01:54:41,320 --> 01:54:44,000
Speaker 4: College Football Playoff now that we have a twelve teamer?

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01:54:44,240 --> 01:54:46,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, So whoever wins the Big twelve is going to

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01:54:46,880 --> 01:54:50,000
Speaker 2: get an automatic bit so Iowa State, if I believe,

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01:54:50,080 --> 01:54:51,760
Speaker 2: is gonna win the Big twelve, then Iowa State is

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Speaker 2: going to actually make it into the college football player.

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Speaker 3: So you got him in? Yeah, the cycles absolutely. Oh,

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01:54:56,760 --> 01:54:58,560
Speaker 3: let's do it all right, mit, Campbell's been waiting for

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01:54:58,640 --> 01:55:00,640
Speaker 3: far too long. Good coach.

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Speaker 4: Speaking of waiting for far too long, We've been waiting

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01:55:02,480 --> 01:55:04,000
Speaker 4: for far too long to get to Breeze three.

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Speaker 3: Let's go not one, not two, but three.

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Speaker 11: Sports.

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01:55:10,520 --> 01:55:15,560
Speaker 1: It's entertainment, it's good. It's Breeze three.

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Speaker 16: What we got breeze alrighty guys.

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Speaker 14: So you know the Dallas Cowboys Netflix documentary, the one

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01:55:20,360 --> 01:55:22,400
Speaker 14: that's actually, you know, being released, not the one that

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01:55:22,480 --> 01:55:26,240
Speaker 14: work live watching every day online sports center called America's

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01:55:26,280 --> 01:55:30,040
Speaker 14: team a Gambler and his Cowboys. So I just kind

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01:55:30,040 --> 01:55:32,000
Speaker 14: of thought, like, what is like the best? What are

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01:55:32,040 --> 01:55:35,920
Speaker 14: your favorite sports documentaries? So my first one, I went.

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Speaker 16: The Tanya Harding The Price of Gold, The thirty for thirty.

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Speaker 14: I thought That was really good, just with the whole

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01:55:41,280 --> 01:55:44,680
Speaker 14: Nancy Carrigan thing that was that was like before my time.

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01:55:45,040 --> 01:55:47,400
Speaker 3: So I just was calling me old cool because I

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01:55:47,440 --> 01:55:48,120
Speaker 3: remember that vividly.

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01:55:48,360 --> 01:55:49,240
Speaker 16: I was like a year old.

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01:55:49,320 --> 01:55:51,440
Speaker 14: So I was like busy trying to be like developed

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01:55:51,480 --> 01:55:53,440
Speaker 14: and walk and stuff, you know, trying to kind of

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01:55:53,480 --> 01:55:54,520
Speaker 14: become like a human.

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01:55:54,640 --> 01:55:57,280
Speaker 4: I guess, yes, and yet Nanci care again was trying

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01:55:57,280 --> 01:55:59,839
Speaker 4: to Okay, Yeah, that was a tough situation.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, so that was pretty good. The nice ninety four

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01:56:02,840 --> 01:56:04,320
Speaker 16: Winter Olympics, YadA, YadA, YadA.

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Speaker 14: And then I went the Bad Bad Boys, like you

2653
01:56:07,240 --> 01:56:09,840
Speaker 14: guys were just talking about Billy and beer, and that's

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01:56:09,880 --> 01:56:13,040
Speaker 14: one I loved. I love Isaiah Thomas, like I just

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01:56:13,160 --> 01:56:15,600
Speaker 14: love that whole team and watching like old games and

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01:56:15,680 --> 01:56:20,800
Speaker 14: like you know, my dad's like and yeah, the Jordan rules,

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01:56:20,840 --> 01:56:23,240
Speaker 14: like that whole thing and just that like drama that

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01:56:23,400 --> 01:56:25,880
Speaker 14: was really interesting to me because again I didn't live

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01:56:25,960 --> 01:56:29,680
Speaker 14: through it. And then my third one, I went non

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01:56:29,840 --> 01:56:35,640
Speaker 14: sports related and I went Blackfish, like yeah, and I

2661
01:56:36,240 --> 01:56:39,440
Speaker 14: like vowed to never go to sea World, never drive

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01:56:39,520 --> 01:56:40,280
Speaker 14: past SeaWorld.

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01:56:40,440 --> 01:56:42,440
Speaker 16: I want nothing to do with SeaWorld. I do not

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01:56:42,520 --> 01:56:45,080
Speaker 16: support it. So the whole thing with the Killer Whales

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01:56:45,160 --> 01:56:47,960
Speaker 16: and I orca sorry but love them and so.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, so those were my three. So Tanya Harding Bad Boys,

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01:56:53,160 --> 01:56:54,960
Speaker 14: and then Blackfish got Mark.

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01:56:55,960 --> 01:57:00,640
Speaker 15: Let's go with We Were Kings, And then I thought

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01:57:00,680 --> 01:57:02,000
Speaker 15: about Last Dance.

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Speaker 3: Yea oh, because you know COVID, no one went anywhere.

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01:57:05,360 --> 01:57:08,600
Speaker 4: We all watched the Bulls absolutely over and over and

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01:57:08,720 --> 01:57:10,880
Speaker 4: over again, ten parter and I don't know if it

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Speaker 4: counts as a documentary, but any given Sunday, why not.

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01:57:16,280 --> 01:57:17,040
Speaker 3: I loved it enough?

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01:57:18,200 --> 01:57:18,720
Speaker 1: Was that real?

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01:57:18,800 --> 01:57:20,800
Speaker 3: When the guy's eye popped out on that field? That

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01:57:20,920 --> 01:57:21,800
Speaker 3: was a documentary?

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Speaker 10: You know what?

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01:57:23,520 --> 01:57:26,000
Speaker 3: Technical technically, no mark, but I'm gonna give it to you.

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01:57:26,120 --> 01:57:28,840
Speaker 3: Wait fight for that inch. If we can't use that one,

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01:57:29,040 --> 01:57:33,320
Speaker 3: how about North Dallas forty Okay, okay, yeah, absolutely it

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01:57:33,440 --> 01:57:34,000
Speaker 3: works sure.

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01:57:35,400 --> 01:57:35,560
Speaker 5: For me.

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Speaker 2: I got unforgivable blackness. It was about the boxer Jack Johnson.

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01:57:38,600 --> 01:57:41,720
Speaker 2: It was a Ken Burns documentary, phenomenal documentary about a

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01:57:41,760 --> 01:57:43,960
Speaker 2: black boxer who just flawing it in front of everybody.

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01:57:44,360 --> 01:57:46,280
Speaker 2: This is a boxer in the early nineteen hundreds who

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01:57:46,320 --> 01:57:49,680
Speaker 2: was dating white women and flowing around wearing fancy clothes

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01:57:49,920 --> 01:57:51,960
Speaker 2: like it was nobody's business. Got death threats left and

2690
01:57:52,040 --> 01:57:54,960
Speaker 2: right and did not care that Brett Hart breda ad

2691
01:57:55,040 --> 01:57:58,320
Speaker 2: Manhart Wrestling with Shadows chronicle his final year in the WWF,

2692
01:57:58,400 --> 01:58:01,720
Speaker 2: including his spat with Vince McMahon the Montress Marre Drob

2693
01:58:01,760 --> 01:58:04,080
Speaker 2: when he punches them in the face, phenomenal behind the

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01:58:04,080 --> 01:58:06,120
Speaker 2: scenes on Bretthay, Hit Man Heart, and the thirty for

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01:58:06,200 --> 01:58:08,360
Speaker 2: thirty documentary on the Celtics and Lakers. There were so

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01:58:08,560 --> 01:58:10,920
Speaker 2: many of these, but the fact that it was narrated

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01:58:10,960 --> 01:58:14,520
Speaker 2: by ice Cube and Donnie Wahlberg, giving this La side

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01:58:14,560 --> 01:58:16,480
Speaker 2: for ice Cube and the Boston side for Wallborg, I

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01:58:16,520 --> 01:58:17,560
Speaker 2: thought was very well done.

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Speaker 4: So we can go outside of sports here, right of course. Okay,

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01:58:22,480 --> 01:58:25,960
Speaker 4: I'll start with sports though. The documentary I think it's

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01:58:26,000 --> 01:58:30,240
Speaker 4: from the early nineties Hoop Dreams, Yeah, by documentarian I.

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01:58:30,240 --> 01:58:32,480
Speaker 3: Want to say Steve James was his name.

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01:58:33,080 --> 01:58:37,600
Speaker 4: Hoop Dreams following two high school basketball players.

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01:58:37,680 --> 01:58:39,280
Speaker 3: To see if they're going to make the league.

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01:58:39,560 --> 01:58:43,160
Speaker 4: It is one of the most inspiring, coolest documentaries if

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01:58:43,160 --> 01:58:46,400
Speaker 4: you love basketball, if you are real hooper, you've probably

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01:58:46,440 --> 01:58:50,520
Speaker 4: already seen it, but you can watch it like fifty times. Secondly,

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Speaker 4: if we're talking documentaries, I gotta have a Werner Herzog

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Speaker 4: one in there, and that would mean the Grizzly Man.

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01:58:57,720 --> 01:59:03,800
Speaker 4: Timothy Treadwell up to Alaska to study the grizzlies.

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01:59:03,840 --> 01:59:06,080
Speaker 3: And well for tread Well, no I didn't. But he

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01:59:06,160 --> 01:59:08,800
Speaker 3: got up there for like ten years before he got killed.

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01:59:08,840 --> 01:59:10,840
Speaker 3: Oh great, great run man.

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01:59:10,960 --> 01:59:14,480
Speaker 4: And we learned a lot about grizzly bears during that time.

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01:59:14,600 --> 01:59:17,280
Speaker 3: It was very education. When did we end up learning

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01:59:17,320 --> 01:59:17,720
Speaker 3: at the end?

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01:59:18,000 --> 01:59:18,240
Speaker 13: I don't.

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01:59:18,280 --> 01:59:20,360
Speaker 3: They're big and scary, Oh is that all?

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01:59:20,760 --> 01:59:22,480
Speaker 4: And maybe if you try to live and sleep with them,

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01:59:22,520 --> 01:59:24,600
Speaker 4: you will die and they will eat you for lunch,

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01:59:24,800 --> 01:59:27,360
Speaker 4: especially if you go to a place that was the

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01:59:27,560 --> 01:59:30,800
Speaker 4: heart of where they were hybrid eating, called the Grizzly Maze.

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01:59:31,280 --> 01:59:33,600
Speaker 3: You know, he thought that he was one with the

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01:59:33,720 --> 01:59:37,040
Speaker 3: bears and he got too close one with their digestive track.

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01:59:37,080 --> 01:59:38,160
Speaker 3: When it was all said, none.

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01:59:38,040 --> 01:59:43,440
Speaker 4: They delude themselves. Rip Timothy Treadwell. Lastly, though, on the

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Speaker 4: lighter side, American movie from nineteen ninety nine. I call

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01:59:47,240 --> 01:59:50,520
Speaker 4: it the Big Lebowski of documentaries. The characters are hilarious.

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Speaker 4: It is one of my favorite things to watch, especially

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01:59:53,520 --> 01:59:56,440
Speaker 4: during the holidays, because it takes place during Thanksgiving, and Christmas.

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Speaker 3: Check it out American Movie. All right, before we get

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Speaker 3: out of.

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Speaker 4: Here, we do want to thank bring our producer, Mark

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Speaker 4: the chairman of the board, and of course great Scott, Yes,

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02:00:10,320 --> 02:00:12,280
Speaker 4: Scott Shapiro for the opportunity.

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Speaker 3: Again, Keny, I.

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Speaker 2: Want to thank you guys for listening to us as well.

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Speaker 2: Kevin Figures Adam Alston here on Fox Sports Saturday. Much

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Speaker 2: appreciate all of the love and support. Coming up next

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Speaker 2: to fellas Anthony Argano and Jason fitz here on FSR