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Speaker 1: starter in the college level. There's a big reason Bill

424
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Speaker 1: Parcels want nothing to do with those guys, you know,

425
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Speaker 1: and uh, he kept going with any test of ardy right,

426
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Speaker 1: those type of guys I mean, and then he got

427
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Speaker 1: thrust into a bad situation. You could make the argument, well,

428
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Speaker 1: if Mitch was better, he would have started more games

429
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Speaker 1: in college maybe you know it was he a one

430
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Speaker 1: year wonder at college. But the guy ahead of him, um,

431
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,720
Speaker 1: was a draftable player that was you know, entrenched and

432
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Speaker 1: noticeably older than Trabisky. You know they were gonna bench him,

433
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Speaker 1: you know, in that situation. So it's almost that Joe

434
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Speaker 1: Flacco uh situation a pit right right? Rick comes in

435
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 1: Tyler Palko's establish Joe's more talented, but tales your leader

436
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Speaker 1: in the clubhouse, and so you continue to start Palco

437
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 1: even though Flacco is more talented, right right right? You know.

438
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Speaker 1: So Um, again, these this isn't making excuses for Trabinsky's

439
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,159
Speaker 1: first five years in the league. This is facts. I

440
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,640
Speaker 1: mean this, this is the things that happened, and diagnose

441
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Speaker 1: all these different things. But are they being too tough

442
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Speaker 1: on him? I mean again, yeah, especially when you look

443
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Speaker 1: at some of the guys and I know you said

444
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Speaker 1: it's more of a tearing than a ranking, when you

445
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Speaker 1: look at some of the guys that landed in front

446
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Speaker 1: of him, like, do you really think that Mitch is

447
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,400
Speaker 1: worse than Sam Donald right now, I don't think anybody's

448
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 1: worse right like hoo like if you just want to

449
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 1: talk numbers or any advanced metric or any stat or

450
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,960
Speaker 1: any number or e p A or anything that is

451
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Speaker 1: a quarterback indicator, Sam Donald's thirty second in the league

452
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Speaker 1: year after year after year. He's five far worst every year.

453
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Speaker 1: And I get it. So I think a lot of

454
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Speaker 1: guys probably looked at that because Trabisky didn't play last

455
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Speaker 1: year and they said, well, we can't. I can't give him,

456
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Speaker 1: I can't give him a three. He would have played

457
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Speaker 1: better than Sam. Yeah, if we don't know, you know,

458
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 1: he drew eight passes last year. You know at thirty

459
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Speaker 1: one is Marcus Mariotta? Was his track record any different

460
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 1: than I think it's very similar. Yeah, they're very so

461
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 1: step back as a clear number two as well. He

462
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,680
Speaker 1: did it for two years. He was the second overall

463
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Speaker 1: pick as well. I don't know that he's had more

464
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Speaker 1: success than Mitch. I think if you look at the doors,

465
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 1: they would suggest not. I mean, he took the Bears

466
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Speaker 1: to the playoffs twice. You know, he went to a

467
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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. Mariota's not done any of that stuff. I mean,

468
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Speaker 1: I don't have any problem. Are they right next to

469
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Speaker 1: each other? He's a thirty one, so I mean they

470
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 1: should probably be right next to each other, you know, Um,

471
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Speaker 1: you know, so Donald is thirty two, Mariota's thirty one,

472
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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is thirty It's another guy I think I

473
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Speaker 1: put mench in front of. I actually hoped for Daniel

474
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Speaker 1: because he's had I mean, I don't think he's gonna

475
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Speaker 1: be a tier two guy next year or anything like that,

476
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,439
Speaker 1: but I'm excited to day ball like Mitch could have

477
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 1: went there though him wanted him for a reason for right,

478
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 1: I mean people because he might be better Daniel Jones. Yeah, right, right? Uh?

479
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Speaker 1: Then at twenty nine is here's here's the thing. Okay,

480
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 1: so Trey Lances at twenty nine. You know enough about

481
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Speaker 1: Trey Lance that he can I don't know how you

482
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Speaker 1: rank him, Yeah, you know, I don't know where you'd

483
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Speaker 1: put him. That's all potential bases, right right. I mean

484
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 1: he started two games last year, played in four others,

485
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Speaker 1: and he threw to seventy one passes. So those seventy

486
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Speaker 1: one passes he had thrown, what wasn't Matt two fifty

487
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 1: passes in college something like that did his whole senior year. Yeah,

488
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Speaker 1: in the last six years, he's thrown three passes in games,

489
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Speaker 1: and we're gonna say that he's number twenty. I don't

490
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Speaker 1: know that. I mean, I guess if I'm a GM

491
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Speaker 1: and I'm impartial, and I had a really high grade

492
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Speaker 1: on Lance coming out of school and it was more

493
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Speaker 1: recent than Trabiskie, I might give him a slightly better grade.

494
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Speaker 1: But I don't know how you can say. I don't

495
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Speaker 1: know where you put Lance on the list. If I

496
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Speaker 1: had to actually rank him, you know, he totally incomplete grade. Yeah,

497
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Speaker 1: I don't know. Um twenty eight is Zach Wilson. Can

498
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Speaker 1: we really put Zach Wilson ahead of Mitch Drabisky. If

499
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Speaker 1: anyone was worse than Donald last year, was it was

500
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Speaker 1: Zack Wilson, right right? I mean it doesn't mean he's

501
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Speaker 1: a terrible player, can't redeem himself, but he was a

502
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Speaker 1: terrible player. He was a terrible player. He was. Yeah,

503
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Speaker 1: so I I look at that, I'm like, Okay, this

504
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Speaker 1: next guy is the killer though. Okay, Davis Mill, No,

505
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Speaker 1: I think we might like Davis Mills a little bit

506
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:36,400
Speaker 1: more than you Tom Yeah. Yeah, but it's still it's

507
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 1: still a largely incomplete grade. But he played well down

508
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Speaker 1: the stretch. There was a stretch no one just noticed

509
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Speaker 1: because it was in the second half of the season.

510
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 1: In the second half of last season, he was probably

511
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Speaker 1: the best rookie quarterback in the league. And for the

512
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: whole year, I think he was only behind Mac. Yeah,

513
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 1: I mean nobody noticed because he was the one it

514
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Speaker 1: for Houston terrible. But what's interesting about and and you'll

515
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Speaker 1: probably like the this time is the sand do com

516
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Speaker 1: It's are Yeah, he's really good for a third round pick. Boy,

517
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Speaker 1: he might be a really nice story for third round pick.

518
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Speaker 1: So if he would have been the second pick in

519
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Speaker 1: the draft, would people be as as glowing? Would they

520
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: be like, wow, they might have hit somebody here. Yeah,

521
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 1: I mean I think they might have. I think he

522
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Speaker 1: might be this version of Russell Wilson or Dak Prescott.

523
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Speaker 1: And I don't mean like a potential Hall of Famer,

524
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Speaker 1: but as a mid round pick that ends up starting.

525
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Speaker 1: You know, he was like the top recruit in the

526
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Speaker 1: country coming out of school. Yeah, and he's had a

527
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Speaker 1: lot of injury issues at college level, and he had

528
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 1: as bad a situation as Zach Wilson last year. It's

529
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Speaker 1: stranger that Lawrence for that the two guys who had

530
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Speaker 1: the most success. It's success is relative for rookie quarter

531
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Speaker 1: But the two guys who had the most success for

532
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Speaker 1: as rookie quarterbacks last year were the pocket passers. I

533
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: was gonna say that too. They were the worst athletes,

534
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 1: the most game manager ish. You know which everyone says

535
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 1: pick it is. You know, they weren't the superb athletes

536
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Speaker 1: with the big upside. It could be the ex lamar

537
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. You those guys all struggled. Six is taking

538
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 1: him a little bit yesterday. Yeah, not being two believers,

539
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 1: I wouldn't trade for whisky for TWA. I wouldn't either.

540
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,679
Speaker 1: I'd rather I mean, I feel like I feel like

541
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,199
Speaker 1: two is an unknown. I wouldn't. I think I know

542
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: who he is, and I don't think it's good enough.

543
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: The only guy that we've listed so far that I

544
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 1: would even consider it, and I'm talking at the both

545
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 1: sides of my mouth here might be Trey Lance. I

546
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: would trade him for tray Land. Yeah. Yeah, And even

547
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 1: though that's that's something there's some unknown there obviously, But

548
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 1: you know, you do see the athletic and I'm sure

549
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: we're gonna say Fields any minute now too. Fields is

550
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: on the list actually, which I mean. I had Fields

551
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Speaker 1: number two, and there were times last year I thought

552
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 1: he might be number one. Um, it's like you said

553
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 1: with two yesterday, Matt, there's nothing that God does like

554
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 1: extremely well, right, There's no like superpower that you point to,

555
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 1: like that guy can thread the needle or wow, he

556
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: can just rocket a ball into any coverage. He is

557
00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 1: not plus size C plus you know Twitter genus, C

558
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 1: plus arm strength, C plus athleticism. And what I was

559
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: shocked on the to a thing is there's a quote

560
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 1: in there which is not what I expected at all

561
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,640
Speaker 1: is they said something along the lines of the other

562
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 1: Alabama guys and they're talking about mac Jones are more

563
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 1: competitive and tougher, Like I didn't see that one coming

564
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 1: on to Yeah, justin Fields is Jamis Winston's I thought

565
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: Winston played extremely well last year. I wouldn't him be

566
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 1: the guy that came here instead of Mitch. We talked

567
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 1: about this eight thousand times leading up into free agency,

568
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: and I had them ranked Winston Mitch and then a

569
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 1: big gap to Mariota. So that was the same approach,

570
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: and the Steelers took the approach that day when I

571
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: had talked about a lot. I just thought Winston had

572
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: a pretty darn good year last year, you know, and

573
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: fourteen touchdowns the three interceptions, right right, that's great, and

574
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: they were definitely on track to make the playoffs with him.

575
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: Remember eivers in New Orleans last year. Michael Thomas just

576
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: came back, right, I mean they were a bunch of nobody's. Yeah,

577
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: Justin Fields is the last of his Tier four guys,

578
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: he had some flashes. Jamis Winston first, he's the first

579
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 1: of the Tier three guys. I think Winston will be

580
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: higher than that. I might even say at two when

581
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: we're sitting here next year at this time, are we

582
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 1: talking about a Steelers quarterback being in Tier three? Yeah,

583
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 1: that's what they need, That's what I mean. I think

584
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 1: you would take that. Yeah. If if we said next July,

585
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: when Mike's article comes out, the Steelers will have a

586
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: Tier three quarterback, I think he would all say, Okay,

587
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:41,239
Speaker 1: I'll take that. In either one of their careers and

588
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: they're ascending. Yeah, I think you take that. And what's

589
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 1: a record? If they get Tier three quarterback play, they

590
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 1: get Tier three quarterback play, they win nine or ten

591
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: games and they get Yeah, that's the defense is just

592
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: takes a step forward. For if the defense gets back

593
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: to like say level where they're third in the league

594
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 1: in scoring defense and you know again leading the league

595
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: in sacks and doing all that, like, they get a

596
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: chance to make some noise. I mean a huge injury

597
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: year with Derail all that conversation, but that goes without

598
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: saying in this sport, or if Boswell all of a

599
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: sudden can't make a kick or something, you feel like that,

600
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 1: of course, but or they you know, they lose a

601
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: lot of one point games somehow or whatever. But no,

602
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: I mean, if you get tier three quarterback play, they'll

603
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 1: be hard to beat. They'll be in a lot of

604
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 1: You'll be in a lot of games. Absolutely. Tree is

605
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. He's a Tier three guy. One note on

606
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 1: Lawrence that shocked me with the quotes were some people

607
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: questioned him as a thrower, you know, like everyone assumes

608
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: elite prospects, superstar, but some of these guys said he's

609
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 1: not as natural a thrower as everybody seems to think.

610
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna believe. I mean, I'm a huge believer. Yeah,

611
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: I'm still believer too. I also like the quote. You know,

612
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: it's hard to judge them with the talent that was

613
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 1: down there and of course the situation, but it is

614
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: true like Burrow didn't exactly walk into the most town

615
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: to the room when he came to Cincinnati, and you

616
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: could still tell this dude's got it, like the guy said,

617
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: I think he said, this guy's the f and guy

618
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: can't see that with Lawrence again, I mean, after that

619
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: was the worst head coach maybe in NFL history, that

620
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: right dealing with And I actually went back and watched

621
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: some coaches tape. You know, during the downtime of the Jags,

622
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: no one got open. Guys ran the wrong route all

623
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: the time, they receivers running into each other. So the

624
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback had to be like Peyton Manning out there

625
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: telling everyone we're to go and managing the clock. And

626
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: you know, pre snap, you'd see Lawrence telling these goofball

627
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: receivers get up on the line of scrimmage, or your

628
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: splits are wrong, or you know, like come on, which

629
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: is like s glass half fool. That's a good sign part.

630
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: I think he's got the mentals. How about this one

631
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: twenty two is Jared Goff? Is he a Tier three guys?

632
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: I don't know about that, but I do think the

633
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,719
Speaker 1: lines I think. I think. I think the Steelers can

634
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: get better quarterback play than Jared Goff this year. I

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Speaker 1: think so too. I would not take door number one

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Speaker 1: if it's Jared Goff. I wouldn't either, Like, Okay, your

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Speaker 1: quarterback plays as well as Jared Goff played last year,

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Speaker 1: No thanks, I went better than that. He just turns down.

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Speaker 1: We've talked about a million times on the air of

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Speaker 1: the last couple of years. Day the the there's no

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Speaker 1: stat for the throw you should attempt that you don't.

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Speaker 1: Golf is always high on that list. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: Let's put it this way. When the Steelers played the

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Speaker 1: Lions last year, they refused to throw the football in

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Speaker 1: the second half, third and twelve, Yount running running the

646
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Speaker 1: football because they didn't trust him it At twenty there's

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Speaker 1: a tie Carson Wentz and Jalen Hurts. One's going one way,

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Speaker 1: one's going to the the other. But they were much different

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Speaker 1: spots last year. Oh they were. There's no before last year,

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Speaker 1: uh went said a grade at two point nine four.

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00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: Now he's at three point three six, so things have

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Speaker 1: kind of changed on him and Hurts going into last

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00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: year was a three point nine eight and he wasn't

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Speaker 1: a full year starter after last year. Now he's at

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Speaker 1: three point three six. But they're going opposite directions. It's

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Speaker 1: funny they were teammates Nineteens Baker, Mayfield, Rejother Winzer Baker.

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Speaker 1: Neither's the answer. Neither's the answer, But I think I'd

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Speaker 1: rather have wins. I think he's more talented. He's more talented.

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Speaker 1: I've seen more. I've seen more stretches of better play

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Speaker 1: out of wins than I have from Baker. I think.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know them as human beings, but

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Speaker 1: I don't know that either one of their personalities or

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Speaker 1: for me, his term as my team leader or you know,

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Speaker 1: face the franchise type guy. And I do remember Sando

665
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Speaker 1: was talking about this article and he basically said, what

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Speaker 1: the league has become is if you're a Tier one guy,

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Speaker 1: you're thrilled. If you're a Tier two team, you're pretty happy.

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Speaker 1: But if you're Tier three or below, basically they're trying

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Speaker 1: to replace you. You know what I mean. Eighteens Mac Jones,

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Speaker 1: though he's an't worry. He's a lifetime might be where

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Speaker 1: he's at. Yeah, that might be him, that might be

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Speaker 1: what he is. I think he's arrived. I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: of that entire rookie class, he's the one that I

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Speaker 1: would say, I'll bet every dollar I have is a

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Speaker 1: starter five years from now, but probably the least chance

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Speaker 1: of being a pro bowler, you know, or being you know,

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Speaker 1: a Tier two guy or Tier one guy. That's seventeen

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Speaker 1: is Ryan Tannehill. But descending that, descending he is going

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00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: down that whole team recently. That's just that playoff performance

680
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 1: last year, four interceptions. Just you want to talk about choking.

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00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,800
Speaker 1: Jimmy g is sixteen. If Derrick Henry's not jim Brown,

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Speaker 1: the Titans have a problem, you know what I mean. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Jimmy G's is sixteen. So that begs the question, if

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Speaker 1: we can all concede that Jimmy's I don't know, fifteen

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Speaker 1: to eighteen, shouldn't ten teams be interested in him? Especially

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Speaker 1: a lot of the teams that are on this list

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Speaker 1: below this have young quarterbacks or are potentially going to

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Speaker 1: be in a position to draft a young quarterback next year, right,

689
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 1: you know, But like the reason they're cutting him, not

690
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,399
Speaker 1: because they dislike him or he's distraction, but they want

691
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 1: to tell the world this is Trey's team. They don't

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Speaker 1: want guys in the locker room looking back and forth

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Speaker 1: when Lance has a tough game, which Jimmy you know,

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Speaker 1: so it's a scary situation in San Francisco. I do too.

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00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: So maybe the Jets or Texans wouldn't want to do

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00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: that either. But he's better than what teams are playing with.

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00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: It's it's interesting when you read Trey Lance is right

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Speaker 1: up that Sando did here. Other people were saying that

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Speaker 1: they hope that they would make the switch last year,

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Speaker 1: and this one guy quoted saying it would be like

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Speaker 1: his early Christmas president if they got rid of Jimmy,

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00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: so that that way he can't play for them, and

703
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: they make Trey for your guy. And that's a coach

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Speaker 1: who plays the Niners. But so Jimmy being at sixteen

705
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 1: just goes to show you as well, you don't need elite,

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Speaker 1: elite quarterback player. They made or NFC Championship game last

707
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: year with Jimmy is a quarterback, but he doesn't solve problems.

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00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 1: He doesn't know. But what I'm saying is you don't

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Speaker 1: need one of these top ten guys to be a

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Speaker 1: good football team. Two out of the last three and

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00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 1: the championship games in the last three he's been in, right.

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00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: I mean even Tannehill was the number one seed last year, right,

713
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: and he wasn't playing well. And these are sixteen and seventeen.

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Speaker 1: You know, Jared Goff has been to a Super Bowl,

715
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 1: but it has been a long time and since one

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00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 1: of those guys want to sue a super different out.

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00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: You know, anyone to watch Chiefs Bills playoff game, Jimmy

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Speaker 1: ain't doing that, and that's why Goff's not in l An. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: and we know who the final fifteen are there. That's

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Speaker 1: that's no big surprise. But I think the Steelers can

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Speaker 1: at least get if they can get into that conversation.

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Speaker 1: You know where where Okay mac Jones jumps onto the

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Speaker 1: list right away is number eighteen, right, Like it could

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Speaker 1: be that guy. I get that kind of level of quarterback.

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Speaker 1: It's not like it's it's it's elite, elite quarterback play

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Speaker 1: and be a good football team. You mentioned the top fifteen.

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Speaker 1: I think there's like thirteen guys and Kyler Murray, and

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Speaker 1: there's eleven stars in my league in my opinion, with

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Speaker 1: either if you want to put Dac at ten or

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Speaker 1: Lamar ten and the other ones at eleven, and then

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Speaker 1: I think Kyler and car are twelve and thirteen, whatever

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Speaker 1: order you want. But from fourteen down it's not that

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Speaker 1: unattainable for Picket or Trabisky or even Zack Wilson or whomever.

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Speaker 1: You know. Guys' Matt Ryan right, and he's a descending

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Speaker 1: player that's here to fourteen and below. To me, those

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Speaker 1: spots are not set in stone at all. I mean,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of those guys won't be the answer. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna take another break. He is Matt Williamson. That's

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Speaker 1: Tom Offerman. I am Dale Lally. You're listening to the

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Speaker 1: Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We are live from

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Speaker 1: Steelers training camp here at St. Vincent College. We will

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Speaker 1: be back with more in the Drive right after this.

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Speaker 1: Listening to the official Voice R. Not only are you

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00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 1: getting myself, Dale Allie and Matt Williamson today, what's your

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00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:08,879
Speaker 1: also getting Tom Offerman bonus coverage just unbelievable stuff. Uh.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers just wrapping up their practice here. Uh. Some

747
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 1: guys over there still getting some work in things of

748
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Speaker 1: that nature, but the main part of practice is now done.

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Speaker 1: The reporters over there waiting for Mike Tomlin to come

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Speaker 1: over and give his thoughts on today's session, and they

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Speaker 1: avoided them on soon for them the completely right. There's

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00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,399
Speaker 1: blue sky all around us, the sun is out. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know, they actually even uncovered the grass field during practice. Uh,

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Speaker 1: it's not that tells me that the rain is done

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Speaker 1: for the evening, because otherwise it would have left it

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Speaker 1: the cover on the fields. They'll be there tomorrow and

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Speaker 1: tomorrow also, I would assume will be more than a

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Speaker 1: two hour session. Yeah, to get back. Okay, now it's

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Speaker 1: time they need to get to really get a dive

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Speaker 1: into a a full training camp session before then Saturday,

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00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:02,280
Speaker 1: the pad's coming on. Yeah, I was thinking tomorrow's Saturday,

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Speaker 1: but I would imagine Saturday. They're already all running together,

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Speaker 1: aren't they. But I would imagine Saturday this will be hopping,

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Speaker 1: I mean, unless the weather is awful for whatever reason.

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Speaker 1: But I think the turnout will be incredible and the

766
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: product will be really fun to watch too. Yeah, it

767
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: should be um for for those who can see it.

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Speaker 1: So uh if you come out here. Um, yeah, we

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Speaker 1: don't forget that. You do need you do need to

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Speaker 1: go to Steelers dot com and get tickets for the event.

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00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 1: They are asking that you have a ticket for the event. Uh.

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Speaker 1: They don't cost anything, so even yeah, even though you

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Speaker 1: need a ticket, Uh, they are free. So go ahead

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Speaker 1: too Steelers dot Com and get those. Uh, go ahead

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Speaker 1: and take care of that and get your butts out here. Uh.

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00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: That's that's all kinds of stuff to see. Do uh experience. Um,

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00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: it's always a great atmosphere. And watching some players now

778
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: walking past us here as Marcus Allen and Ulysses Gilbert

779
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,399
Speaker 1: make their way over to the to the cards over

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00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: here to go up hill saying a load of people, Um,

781
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: what do we make of that inside linebacker like that?

782
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Speaker 1: No one ever talks about Buddy Johnson, Yeah, you know,

783
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Speaker 1: and and Gilbert even and do you have any take

784
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Speaker 1: on those guys, Thomas, I mean, I thought Buddy Johnson

785
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: was tracking well last year, so he got hurt at

786
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Speaker 1: the end of he got his workload increased a little

787
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Speaker 1: bit and then he got hurt, so he really couldn't

788
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Speaker 1: see anything down the stretch. But good, I mean played

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Speaker 1: in the sec. So, I mean he's he definitely knows,

790
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,280
Speaker 1: you know, high level intense football. Here's a team captain,

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Speaker 1: I think, one of the leader and tackles at A

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Speaker 1: and M. So, I mean, yeah, yeah, I had really

793
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 1: really high hopes for Gilbert one year ago, last camp,

794
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Speaker 1: and now it's kind of I guess, but I'm not

795
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: sure he didn't really wrong. But he has made so

796
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 1: many preseason plays I thought that might be on the

797
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Speaker 1: horizon for him. Top five in the league and special

798
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: team since last year, which a track, which, yeah, which

799
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Speaker 1: can be a precursor. Like if you do well on

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00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 1: special teams oftentimes, well you're active on game day, that's one,

801
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: and then you get you know, that turns into an

802
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: opportunity to play on defense, and then you either sink

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00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 1: or swim with that one. Um. You know, somebody was

804
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: we were talking to last night, and somebody brought up

805
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: Anthony Madison, great special teams player, but then he had

806
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 1: to play in the defense, and that wasn't the same.

807
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 1: What's a little bit different for a linebacker absolute cornerback.

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Speaker 1: My my take on the backups are I know what

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00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: Robert Spillane is and he's fine, and he's useful and

810
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Speaker 1: he can get you shout of a game and all

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Speaker 1: that stuff, and he's played, But I would really like

812
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Speaker 1: to see Gilbert or Johnson. I guess Allan's in that

813
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 1: mold too of clearly being ahead of Spillane on the

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Speaker 1: depth chart because then he got a little bit of

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Speaker 1: options and fallback plans if Bush doesn't work out or

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Speaker 1: isn't back next year. You know, I'd like to see

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Speaker 1: those guys. Assent to your point, I think Buddy Johnson

818
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Speaker 1: is that guy more likely. This is a fourth round

819
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: draft pick. They have some investment there in it. Yeah,

820
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: and you know, Marcus Allen was a five linebacker this year.

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Speaker 1: Mark Robinson Rice walked by us as well, so they've

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Speaker 1: got it's a it's a interesting deep room because obviously

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Speaker 1: he also still help Myles Jack and Devin Bush there

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Speaker 1: as well. I mean, they've got a lot of bodies there,

825
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: of guys that they've spent draft picks on. It's a

826
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Speaker 1: good preseason position to like running back, you know, or

827
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: you're gonna get a lot of chances at free agent

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Speaker 1: because the other team's gonna run the football too. Oh yeah,

829
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: you know, you just want to get in and out

830
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 1: of these games and want you get a look at

831
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Speaker 1: your offensive line, your backup offensive lineman, run blocking and things,

832
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: and that they see more running in the preseason, and

833
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: you typically see like I'd love to see Buddy Johnson

834
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Speaker 1: lead the team and tackles in the preseason, have a

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Speaker 1: pick and another big play, you know, and that's what

836
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 1: he should be doing now. It also reminds me of

837
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 1: the old line as far as there's so many people

838
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Speaker 1: that you know, have a chance to make a statement here,

839
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: and they're all so young. I means, the only one

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Speaker 1: that's Spillane and Jack or six, Yeah right, I mean

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Speaker 1: then Bush is twenty four, Allen five, Buddy, Buddy John's

842
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Speaker 1: twenty three. I mean, there's a ton of youth in that.

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Speaker 1: So if you can hit on one two of those guys,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have a decade worth of solid linebacker place.

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Speaker 1: So hopefully one of these guys hit yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: hear you. I think that's the best way of looking

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Speaker 1: at it is, I got three or four guys, if

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Speaker 1: one of them can be even a borderline starter, and

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Speaker 1: like even if it's Jack, you still have like seven

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Speaker 1: years of him potentially being pretty good twenty six years old. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know, people are concerned about that, that knee issue.

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Speaker 1: I haven't heard any of the coaching staff here have

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Speaker 1: any concerns about it yet. I mean he's still just

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Speaker 1: twenty six years old. Yeah, that's something that maybe a

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Speaker 1: thirty five, it's a little bit different. But you know,

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Speaker 1: his longevity might not be there. He should be able

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Speaker 1: to shake that off. I'm pretty sure he's a guy

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Speaker 1: at least in his Jacksonville career that is. Just take

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Speaker 1: him to share Wednesday practices off and stuff too, to

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Speaker 1: you know, to maintain that like it's not going away. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but you know he's played with it at a pretty

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Speaker 1: high level with this, you know, all along. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: I expect him to be better this year than he

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Speaker 1: was last year in jackson That that was a messange

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville last year. And you know, you people look at

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Speaker 1: the Pro Football Focus crazy, well he really badly? Well

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Speaker 1: don't I could. I always go back to I remember

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Speaker 1: when they signed uh, the nickel corner of the one year.

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Speaker 1: This is when Pro Football Focus just started and the

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Speaker 1: nickel corner was the kid from Houston. They signed him, Um,

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Speaker 1: Bryce McCain. Bryce McCain was a guy, he was he

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Speaker 1: was Pro Football Focus is lowest rated cornerback the previous years,

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Speaker 1: so it's a bad sign. So when when when they

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Speaker 1: signed him, all the Steelers, a bunch of Steeler fans

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Speaker 1: looked at that Pro Football Focus grades and oh my god,

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Speaker 1: they just signed the worst cornerback in the league. Two

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Speaker 1: years later when Bryce McCain left, what are we gonna

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Speaker 1: do without Bryce mcca all right? I mean he's a

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00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: serviceable player. Yeah, he deserves snaps and he gets him,

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Speaker 1: but he's not gonna wow you. Yeah, but more from

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Speaker 1: Jack than that, Oh I do too. Yeah, but if

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Speaker 1: he's a disaster him an Bush could be gone. Yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: that's They're not essentially a one year, one year deal

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Speaker 1: with an option for the next right or if his

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Speaker 1: knees really bad or whatever, they'll just move on from

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Speaker 1: get somebody else. That's the case, and they have to

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Speaker 1: move on from then. You've got to think this is

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Speaker 1: way ahead of things. But you've got to think that

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Speaker 1: they lean towards that in their first pick next year again,

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Speaker 1: which he thinks that you're already back there just after

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Speaker 1: picking Bush in the top ten or whoever the best

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00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: world right, so much caps you gotta start thinking that way.

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Speaker 1: You could go get the twenty five year old coming

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Speaker 1: off his first contract, that's a star already, instead of

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Speaker 1: trying to groom one. You know, you're James Daniels. Are

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Speaker 1: the inside linebackers, right, something like that. We're gonna take

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Speaker 1: another break. That's gonna do it for hour two. We'll

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Speaker 1: be back with our three. Here. He is Tom Offerman,

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Speaker 1: that's Matt Williams, and I'm Dale Lelly. You're listening to

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Speaker 1: the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio live from St.

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Speaker 1: Vincent College, as the Steelers just completed practice number two

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Speaker 1: of training camp twenty two. It's in the books. We'll

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Speaker 1: be back with more right after this.