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Speaker 1: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. You know, I got I got

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Speaker 1: another thing I gotta get off my chest. To get

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Speaker 1: over the mac Joel. He had to feel that guy coming.

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Speaker 1: What was that? I just remember I saw that coming.

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Speaker 1: turn on the Jets. He's like, you know every bit

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Speaker 1: of super Patriots blogger, Well, this is these are your

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Speaker 1: people though, those are your people by us. No, No,

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Speaker 1: it helped me. That's that's fact. That's ridiculous. Well, not necessarily, Paul,

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Speaker 1: so another. Would you watch the game and thought one

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Speaker 1: thing and then you go and do this all twenty

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Speaker 1: I think Fred's here to see if I can have

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Speaker 1: It is Wednesday here at Gillette Stadium. The trade deadline

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Speaker 1: has come and gone. No movement for the Patriots. Anything close,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I don't even know what you mean.

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Speaker 1: But what is that close? Like? How close? I don't

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Speaker 1: even know what that kind of close talking about? Did

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Speaker 1: you talk to anybody? Bill? I mean there was a

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Speaker 1: bone here. Belichick is not asking you what you talked about.

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Speaker 1: Did you talk to anybody? Yeah, I'm sure they did.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I would think that, but based on that answer,

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Speaker 1: lot of conversations, and nothing really obviously happened with any

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Speaker 1: of them. Now. Yeah, I will say this, that was

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Speaker 1: players being traded. Yeah. Yeah, that was a major League

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Speaker 1: Baseball deadline like deadline, not an NFL one. Well usually

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Speaker 1: have it. Matt Ryan had nine picks and eleven fumbles.

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Speaker 1: They only lost three of the eleven fumbles, but nine

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Speaker 1: They're in every game doing that. No, you would think

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Speaker 1: you know, taken into account. But um, it's a good

425
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Speaker 1: chance for Mac. I mean, I think if the game

426
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Speaker 1: does unfold favorably, like and I didn't even want to say,

427
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Speaker 1: like they get the ball and they go right down

428
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Speaker 1: the field like you know, it's they get an interception

429
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Speaker 1: off the very first possession, they're set up inside their

430
00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,840
Speaker 1: thirty bing bang boom, they're in seven nothing, everybody's feeling good.

431
00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,520
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the that's the Patriots formula for success.

432
00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:50,600
Speaker 1: So I think if Mat can get you know, just

433
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Speaker 1: get one of those games, um, it would be really

434
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Speaker 1: helpful to him. And I think if the fans started

435
00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,359
Speaker 1: to get behind him. It might be you know a

436
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Speaker 1: little bit of a catalyst into the into the bye

437
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Speaker 1: week and into next season, or not next season, into

438
00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,600
Speaker 1: the you know, second part of the season where everybody

439
00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,640
Speaker 1: then maybe is on board with Mac. Yeah. I don't know.

440
00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:08,959
Speaker 1: I don't know, but it's gonna be fun. I do

441
00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,800
Speaker 1: wonder if I do wonder, at what point though Mac

442
00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,320
Speaker 1: can can put all this zappy stuff down and to

443
00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,480
Speaker 1: the point where all right, he can have some bad

444
00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:20,080
Speaker 1: moments out there and he's well, yeah, that's it. Like

445
00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,560
Speaker 1: for example, I know, I hate bringing up Tom Brady,

446
00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,760
Speaker 1: but like the last game with the Bucks, I mean,

447
00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,960
Speaker 1: the offense looked terrible, but you can tell Brady was

448
00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:31,600
Speaker 1: a good quarterback, you know what I mean, Like the

449
00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:35,840
Speaker 1: passes were there, you know, um, there was other things

450
00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,159
Speaker 1: going around. And now he didn't play a you know,

451
00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,280
Speaker 1: he wasn't one hundred percent good, like he had his moments,

452
00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,120
Speaker 1: but you can tell, Okay, he knows what's going on.

453
00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:49,080
Speaker 1: You know, he's delivering the ball. There's decisiveness, you know,

454
00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,240
Speaker 1: that type of thing, and I think you need to

455
00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,399
Speaker 1: see that with Mac. You know, I'm not saying that

456
00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,160
Speaker 1: he has to throw for four hundred yards. I'm just saying,

457
00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,720
Speaker 1: we need to see the decisiveness, we need to see

458
00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:02,000
Speaker 1: the accuracy, we need to see the mental part of

459
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,720
Speaker 1: the game that we're told is his you know, you know,

460
00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:09,400
Speaker 1: one of his assets. I throw pocket presents into that lab. Yeah,

461
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:11,400
Speaker 1: which is all part of it. But I think that

462
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,320
Speaker 1: that's just a sign of confidence that and I think

463
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 1: that the offensive line has to earn max trust in

464
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:18,800
Speaker 1: that regard. Like I think that they have to, you know,

465
00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:20,960
Speaker 1: come out and play really well and just have to

466
00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,359
Speaker 1: build that trust with him. But just as they talked

467
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Speaker 1: about three or four times yesterday, just being able to

468
00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,760
Speaker 1: step up, make a little step and deliver the ball.

469
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Speaker 1: I think that that would go a long way. And

470
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:32,879
Speaker 1: he has it. I know he can do it. I

471
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,960
Speaker 1: saw him do it last year. It's just I wonder though,

472
00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:40,359
Speaker 1: from like a quarterbacks perspective, and this is probably true,

473
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,159
Speaker 1: just you know, every year is its own adventure in

474
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 1: terms of even when it's the same guy's blocking for you,

475
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,200
Speaker 1: once you kind of get out of that rhythm of hey,

476
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 1: I know these guys got my back, and you're a

477
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 1: little bit like you know, looking sideways here and there

478
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,960
Speaker 1: at the right tackle, thinking oh god, you know, he

479
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 1: might be coming right into my lap in a second.

480
00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,560
Speaker 1: I think that's just of everything right now, we talk

481
00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:00,639
Speaker 1: about the offense, I think that's the thing that that

482
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,360
Speaker 1: I harp on the most, is just getting the offensive

483
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,359
Speaker 1: line to even give to give Hiack the opportunity to

484
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 1: do what I think he can. Well, it's it's been

485
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:13,160
Speaker 1: a confluence of negative things since training camp, you know, uh,

486
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,440
Speaker 1: you know, just the changing of the coaches, the losing

487
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 1: of coaches, then the you know, the the changing of coaches,

488
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:24,400
Speaker 1: the changing of the offense. Um, it hasn't looked right

489
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Speaker 1: since training camp. And you know, I don't I don't

490
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 1: know what needs to happen in order to get it right.

491
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,639
Speaker 1: Like it could be a lost cause for this season anyway,

492
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:39,160
Speaker 1: you know. Um, but it's just the offense has never

493
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Speaker 1: been able to find itself, Like who are we? You know,

494
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Speaker 1: thank god from Ramond Jerry Stevenson. You know, at least

495
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 1: we know we've got somebody in him. I'm glad you

496
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,479
Speaker 1: brought him. Yeah, I'm glad you brought him. Remember when

497
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Speaker 1: when I had said yesterday that I felt like they

498
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Speaker 1: probably would be still for and for so someone on

499
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 1: Twitter said that I said that he was irrelevant. Oh god,

500
00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 1: despite the fact that I said I called him the

501
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,119
Speaker 1: best play or in the team, right, I called him irrelevant?

502
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 1: Right um followed up by oh, you missed the part

503
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 1: when he completely dismissed all the All twenty tours, which

504
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,640
Speaker 1: was exactly the opposite. I said All twenty tours completely

505
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 1: dismiss us. Yeah, well me specifically in this case, those

506
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 1: who don't watch All twenty two. They have no respect

507
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 1: for you if you don't do what they do. So

508
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 1: just people. Some of the Twitter folks aren't too happy.

509
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Speaker 1: One of one of those guys I think, and I'm

510
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 1: not positive on this, but one of those guys I

511
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 1: think is the guy that Evan blocked because it was

512
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Speaker 1: a Buffalo guy. Wasn't there all like a Buffalo guy?

513
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 1: That guy the guy we were talking about texts last night.

514
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,480
Speaker 1: He was all over the map. I'm like, what is

515
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Speaker 1: your allegiance? He was like Sabers black Hawks. I think

516
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Speaker 1: that's the guy. That's a guy. I think that's the

517
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Speaker 1: guy that Evan blocked, which I don't really like. I

518
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Speaker 1: don't really care, like I believe me. There's more people

519
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Speaker 1: on Twitter that call me like fat in whatever, like

520
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Speaker 1: it doesn't, and honestly it doesn't bug me. The only

521
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Speaker 1: thing that does bug me is when I credited with

522
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,640
Speaker 1: saying things that I didn't say. Yeah, that bugs me. Yeah, yeah,

523
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 1: because now someone you know, thankfully in this case, it's

524
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 1: not someone that it's not like going viral because it's

525
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 1: not you know, like Mike Felger tweeted out that I

526
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 1: said something, you know, when he actually has a following

527
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,479
Speaker 1: and people are gonna see it, like so, but I

528
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 1: did not say that Ramandre Stevenson was irrelevant. No. Fred

529
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,959
Speaker 1: immediately snapped his head around when I said that, like

530
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Speaker 1: as if to say, you didn't say that, and I

531
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,640
Speaker 1: didn't dismiss the ALL twenty I don't like all twenty two,

532
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:36,200
Speaker 1: but I don't dismiss all twenty two opinion all twenty

533
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,200
Speaker 1: two opinions. Dismiss those who don't do all twenty two

534
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 1: is what I said yesterday. It was exactly the opposite.

535
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Speaker 1: So that's when I get sort of annoyed because we

536
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,199
Speaker 1: say a lot of stupid things. I say this all

537
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 1: the time. I earn enough stupidity on my own. I

538
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 1: don't need things credited with me that I don't say.

539
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 1: And the only thing missing was the at Vermandre Stevenson.

540
00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 1: So anyway back to my what I was talking about,

541
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 1: and now ten and ten. By the ways, the answer

542
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 1: to your questions tenant to Wow, that's a far cry

543
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 1: from what you lett stadium used to be. Yeah, right,

544
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 1: And I went twenty twenty one and so far this

545
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:11,919
Speaker 1: year that that's what I counted. It was five and

546
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 1: three in twenty twenty four and five last year and

547
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 1: one and two so far right, you know. So you know,

548
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 1: people have said, well, you know, maybe playing on the

549
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 1: road is actually kind of better for them when you're

550
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,120
Speaker 1: a struggling team, you know, or team trying to find itself,

551
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,199
Speaker 1: not to have that pressure of the home crowd. And

552
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 1: ten on the road too, you know, No, but we're

553
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 1: kind of a five. Yeah, I know. But they used

554
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 1: to be so much better at home. Yeah, you know,

555
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 1: wouldn't be real good on the road. Last year record wise,

556
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Speaker 1: I thought, you know, they were four and five, so

557
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 1: they were six and two, yeah, on the road on

558
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 1: the road last year, yeah, I mean they went ten

559
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 1: and seven. Is and do you think I mean, obviously

560
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,439
Speaker 1: the COVID season, that's a little bit tough to to

561
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,120
Speaker 1: include that as well. I mean it's a that's true.

562
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:58,919
Speaker 1: It doesn't really matter. Well, I'll just tell you that

563
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 1: familiarity year they had all their tough games were home games,

564
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 1: and they had a lot of easy games on the road.

565
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 1: Yeah like that. I mean, that's just the way it

566
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: worked out. Like they had Dallas Tampa like those are

567
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 1: tough home games, Atlanta, you know, and then they had

568
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,439
Speaker 1: Yea like Atlanta on the road. I mean, it doesn't

569
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: explain it all the way. They're ten and ten over

570
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: two or two plus year sample. They're ten and ten

571
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: at home. Fred's right, like they haven't had that same

572
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: home field advantage that they used to enjoy forever. So

573
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,400
Speaker 1: we'll see if they can turn that around on Sunday,

574
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 1: you know, because you go to Cleveland and you play

575
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: really well, and then the Bears come here and you

576
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,439
Speaker 1: play dismally. Then you go to the Jets and you

577
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 1: don't play, but at least you pull the win off

578
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,439
Speaker 1: on the road. And let's see if we can you know,

579
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 1: put something together back to back, you know, it being

580
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 1: a home game. Yeah, I mean, you know, I would hope.

581
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 1: I think this defense is respectable, So I mean, I think,

582
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: you know, a good performance against this defense. I do

583
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 1: think it would meet something. I mean, Kenny Moore, Stefan Gilmore.

584
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,919
Speaker 1: Of course I know Leonard has been but you know,

585
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 1: they're they're a good defense. They're active, they're fast, They're

586
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 1: gonna present some chance. But but I you know, going

587
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 1: back to the offense and not looking right since the

588
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 1: training camp, I'm really at a loss here, you know,

589
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: because I still contend they have the pieces to be

590
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 1: a good offense. You know, now you've got this offensive

591
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 1: line trouble and that kind of it doesn't allow for

592
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: like a fair comparison, you know, a fair evaluation. Um.

593
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,719
Speaker 1: But you know, if the line is playing well, I

594
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: think they've got the pieces to be good. I really

595
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: do so, but like you have to you know, and

596
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 1: I'm not telling you that they don't have any players,

597
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: because they do have players. But like, like I think

598
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 1: that if the line so in other words, you think

599
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 1: the line just didn't play well, You don't think that,

600
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 1: you know, like they don't might might not be that good.

601
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 1: I think the line, oh, it may not be that

602
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: just in general, like so like I'm not sure like

603
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: you can just say they have the pieces to be

604
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 1: a good offense when they haven't played that well. No,

605
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: I know, but that's why I say I'm at a loss.

606
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 1: I'm at a loss. Well, you know, like well some

607
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 1: would say that they're not as good as you think

608
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: they are. I know, but it might be one of

609
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 1: those like look at the four receivers, you know, Borne Myers,

610
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 1: Agalore and h Parker. Those are four good receivers. They're okay,

611
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 1: They're four good receivers. I think they're okay. I think

612
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 1: Damian Harris, I think they are a bunch of twos

613
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: and threes. I think it's the same thing that we've

614
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: always talked about. All Right, Damian Harris and Stevenson are

615
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 1: good running backs. I would I would agree with that.

616
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 1: I think the running backs are better than the receivers comparatively,

617
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 1: you know, like in the league. I think your two

618
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: running backs are better than where the receivers would be

619
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: considered in the way I think Hunter Henry's, you know,

620
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: a good tight end. I just think they're they're better

621
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: than they're playing right now. And I certainly look at

622
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 1: the production. I think they are, yeah, but I don't

623
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: they may not be, you know. Like that's why I

624
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: say I'm at a loss. And the most important thing

625
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 1: you haven't even talked about yet is the quarterback? Is

626
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 1: the quarterback any better than he's playing? I don't know. Yeah,

627
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: I don't know the answer to that. Right well, I

628
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: think the question is I mean, right now, they're probably

629
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: most of their rankings are in the low twenties of

630
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 1: the league. So is that what you think they are?

631
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: Like those of you who like to like snicker and

632
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: scoff at Zach Wilson, don't look at the passing statistics

633
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: in the league because you'll see another guy that's very,

634
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: very close to Zach Wilson in the rankings. That's your guy. Like,

635
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: I don't know the answer. I don't have the answer.

636
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 1: This is just a slump. Is it the injury, is

637
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: it the coaching? It is it an extension of whatever

638
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: we saw going on this summer where it just didn't

639
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: look right, you know, it just didn't look right when

640
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: they threw the even like against air, it didn't look right.

641
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: But I see, I'm looking at it a little differently.

642
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:47,719
Speaker 1: And this is where I do get made fun of

643
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: by some of the fans because sometimes I have that

644
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: New England thing, that Boston thing that I'm always thinking

645
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,959
Speaker 1: the worst. Yeah, and I drop and I do but

646
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: you're saying like, well, this is just an extension to

647
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: the summer. To me, it's an extension of last season.

648
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: Like mac Jones's recent stretch didn't start Week one, right,

649
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: It started when Mike said after the bye last year,

650
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: in my opinion, when they started playing with good teams.

651
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: Coupled with the fact that now you've played eight, ten

652
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 1: to twelve games and people see what you do. If

653
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: do you think that if mc daniels was still here,

654
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: they didn't make any changes to the coaching they added Parker,

655
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 1: that they'd be a better offense right now than they are.

656
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: I have to say yes. I have to say yes too.

657
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: I think that they would be better. But I don't

658
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: know how much better Mac Jones would be. That's what

659
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, And I admit right up front, I

660
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: don't know the answer to the question. Yeah, there are

661
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 1: a lot of extenuating factors. And I said before the

662
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: season started, if the offense doesn't play well, Mac won't

663
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 1: get a lot of the blame for it. It It will

664
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: go to the coaches. That's happened largely now. What killed

665
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: him is the injury. Once the injury happened, and Bailey

666
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: Zappie played a couple of games. Now people are looking

667
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: at Mac Jones. Yeahs. And that's why I think it's

668
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: hard to really talk about this offense because you've seen

669
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: like three different versions of it this year. I mean, really,

670
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: if we're being honest, like we got to go off

671
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: the Jets game last week, I mean, that's what you

672
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: have with Mac, and I just continue to go back

673
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: and I think, you know, both of you guys have

674
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: made valid points. I just come down to if they

675
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: can't protect the quarterback and he can't be comfortable throwing

676
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: from the pocket, and they don't have any kind of

677
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 1: semblance of rhythm in the passing game, everything else is

678
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: kind of undercut. So get the past protection figured out,

679
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: get Mac comfortable in the pocket, and then you'll find

680
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: out what they really are. But I just and it's

681
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: also it relates to last year because I think we

682
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: compare a lot to what Mac was last year. And

683
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: you know, at the end of the year, I think

684
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: I said he was an average quarterback, which as a

685
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: rookie is great, take it all day long. He was

686
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: like the sixteenth thrand quarterback. Great, but it was kind

687
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 1: of colored by either amazing performances against bad teams or

688
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: not so great performances against good teams, and so what

689
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: end has happened there is you meet in the middle,

690
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: you know. So I don't think you know exactly what

691
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: he is. That's how That's exactly where I am. I

692
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: just don't know exactly what he is. Yeah, and that's okay,

693
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:09,959
Speaker 1: Like he's only played twenty five ish games whatever? U right? Okay,

694
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't. I mean, I didn't have

695
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: it off the top of the eighteen plus four five five.

696
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: I thought he played three plus this one and the

697
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: last one that counts. Oh the green Bay game. No,

698
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: the Chicago one that counts as a game. Oh really,

699
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: I guess. So okay, we'll just we'll just wipe the well,

700
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,479
Speaker 1: wipe that off, because I'm sure if he threw two

701
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: touchdowns on those first three series and we would wipe

702
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: those off, two touchdowns, he would have played the game.

703
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: According to Bill, it was the Skycamp's fault, so let's

704
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: just give it to me. I would agree with you,

705
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: but Bill says different. That was when I missed last

706
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: week when I was doing my thing, was that the

707
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: Skycamp wire talks. But that wasn't his fault. No, I know,

708
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think he started that. You

709
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 1: took I took some crap on Twitter two for that.

710
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: Oh mac Jones, it's another thing I have an issue

711
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: with one of your with Ma Felgar show, I don't know.

712
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: This is typical Felgar. Okay, Now, I know a lot

713
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: of people were cringing because Matt came out after the

714
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: Cleveland game. In the first thing he said was you know,

715
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: praising Bill about you know, the you know what, who

716
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: are we talking about? He just said mac mac mac

717
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: mac Jones got up and the first thing he did

718
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 1: in his postgame press conference after the win over the

719
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: Jets was to the Jets. Okay, that's why I was confused.

720
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: So Felgar says, what are they doing down there? They're

721
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: actually scripting these guys and telling them to go out

722
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: and say this. What evidence does he have? That's that's

723
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: a fear to the end of someone told him to

724
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: say that there's a chance that he's right right on

725
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: a chance it's fat fat that's absolutely Four hours later,

726
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: the Patriots handed him a script and he walked out

727
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: and recited it. Maybe he's just a kiss ass that

728
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: knows where his bread is but yeah, which is okay,

729
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: But I had to think that was his point is

730
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: he's trying to make nice. But but that's not what

731
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 1: he said. He did say that, he did say that,

732
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: But I think his point is it's an orchestrated effort

733
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: on both of their parts, like Bill coming out and

734
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: saying that Mac was great well, because they're both trying

735
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: to say like, okay, listen, we gotta we gotta knock

736
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 1: this crap. I heard this too though, and this was

737
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: and the and the recurring line was, Oh, they're just

738
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 1: so kneedy down there. I heard it. I did hear

739
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 1: this part. I'm like, and that's that's Felger in a nutshell,

740
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: Like I'm not telling you that anything he said was wrong,

741
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: but he has no idea if he's right right, And

742
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 1: in an hour and a half later, and an hour

743
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: and a half later they reset it and go through

744
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: the whole thing again and it becomes fact and guys

745
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: are calling up you know, like you said, Felger, like

746
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: you know, they have they have to have him go

747
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: in like it it's it's like genius, kiss the ring.

748
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 1: Make sure you kissed the ring? Like I'm like, and

749
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: I'm laughing in my car listening to this thinking of

750
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: like picture and like aar and salking like walking back

751
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: up to the plane, like yeah, make sure he kissed

752
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: the ring of and then the other things and thee

753
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: and then the other thing they said yesterday, which like

754
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: it's an interpretation thing. I get it, but they always

755
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 1: go a certain way. And it was Jonathan Kraft's interview

756
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 1: before the game with Beatle, and you know, Jonathan was

757
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 1: talking about like, you know how in the NFL it's

758
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: hard to like every year be good, and he used

759
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 1: the Rams is in again, but like, for example, the

760
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: Rams last year won the Super Bowl and look at

761
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: him this year. And Felger took it as, oh, we're

762
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 1: not the Rams. The Rams. That's not what he meant.

763
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: He just meant that the last year's super Bowl team,

764
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: whoever it was, is now three and four. That's all

765
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: he meant. It's like it's it's hard in this league.

766
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,479
Speaker 1: And Velger took it as you know, oh, oh we're

767
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 1: not the Rams. Look at the Rams. You know you

768
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: don't want to be the Rams. That's not what he

769
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 1: was saying. Away first round picks to what he was

770
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 1: saying he had nothing to do with, really who the

771
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: team was. It was just last year's Super Bowl team

772
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 1: is now struggling. That's it. That's the NFL. That's all

773
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 1: this point was. But it's taken this whole blue blue

774
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: mommy way, you know, or whatever you call that. You know,

775
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: it's on that one. But it's just it's just you know, oh,

776
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: and it's nobody there to push back. That's the problem today. Yeah,

777
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,479
Speaker 1: you got. I'm not pushing back on that one because

778
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: I leave Jonathan Craft out of things, okay, just because

779
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: that's safe. But but no, but like like Jim, you know,

780
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: I love Jim Murray, but he's right in you know,

781
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: and and mass is the same. You know that nobody

782
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: pushes back. Of course, there's nobody pushing back. That's the problem.

783
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 1: So it falls on today. It's all on your shoulders, fall.

784
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: I have the weight of the world on my shoulders,

785
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,879
Speaker 1: and I need Felger in here so I could straighten out.

786
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, Mike, you missed it. Yes, when back

787
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 1: in the day, oh the old ESPN radio days, eight

788
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: ninety ESPN radis, and half the time neither of us

789
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 1: believe what we were saying. We would just yell, you know,

790
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: Nandy and I would just like get something to eat

791
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:06,879
Speaker 1: and stay around. Yeah, what was it? Oh, yeah, I'm

792
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: looking forward to it. I actually I'm gonna have to

793
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: think listen to Mac today, so I might maybe I'll

794
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: have to catch you on the on the simulcast so

795
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 1: you don't have to listen to me. Okay, we'll put

796
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: we'll put Mac on pages dot com after the fact. Yeah, yeah,

797
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:22,280
Speaker 1: four fifteen. Yeah, he's supposed to talk at four fifteen

798
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: because I know the last couple of well, I shouldn't

799
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: say the last couple of weeks. Last week. I think

800
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 1: by the time he spoke, I was already driving. That's

801
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: very possible. Yeah, he's been late. He was five fifteen,

802
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 1: I think. Yeah, I shouldn't say the last couple of

803
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 1: weeks because he hasn't done it every week. I think

804
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: he was it was five. It was five o'clock last year.

805
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 1: I remember listening to it when I was driving home

806
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 1: and I had to shut it off because I was

807
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 1: like my numb. Yeah, like I'm not good with like

808
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 1: the the interview, like uh and it's bad, you know,

809
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: like it's part of what we do and I can't

810
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: get through them. I just like lose like con conscious

811
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,040
Speaker 1: what did you think of anything to uh that you

812
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 1: took out of yesterday's Coach Access. I mean, I think

813
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 1: kind of like what Evan wrote about. I mean, I

814
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: just think that the team is circling the wagons around

815
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,399
Speaker 1: Mac and uh, and I understand why. And I think

816
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: that they should and I hope that uh, you know

817
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,240
Speaker 1: that it that it pays dividends. That's I mean, that's

818
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: the most important thing. But if they can't protect him,

819
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: I don't think it really But you talk about genius Fred,

820
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: so they have I agree with Mike. I think that

821
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 1: they were. It was a concerted effort yesterday. Like and

822
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: I think what Bill did on Sunday was not by accident.

823
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: You know, the way he spoke about Mac after that game. Um,

824
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: so it's a concerted effort to circle the wagons around

825
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: Mac because of what you did two weeks earlier, right,

826
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 1: like right, we wouldn't have to do this, right like

827
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: And and you watch if Mac plays really well, which

828
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: I think he's going to play better on Sunday, I do.

829
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: I don't know why. I just have a feeling that

830
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: he's going to play better. And you know, I know

831
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: you don't think that the ballon mmies or that. But

832
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 1: you watch the Ballenammies come you watch, well, look at it. Yeah,

833
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 1: the media created all of the storm around the quick. No,

834
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: they didn't. The media does a lot of stupid stuff.

835
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: They didn't create this. The media did not create Zappy

836
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: chance at the game against Chicago, No, Bill did well

837
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 1: well and Zappy yeah by playing well, by Bill saying

838
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: that he was coming out of the game, I was

839
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: an empowerment, that was. But if Zappy hadn't played well

840
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,399
Speaker 1: while Mac was hurt, nobody would be yelling for Zappy.

841
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 1: You know, I understand what your point is. But if

842
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: you just said Mac is our quarterback, I don't think

843
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: there would have been anywhere near the amount of people

844
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: calling for Zappy. We'd be some, there'd be some, but

845
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,720
Speaker 1: not like that. Disagree before he ever played a snap?

846
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: Oh no, No, for sure. But it's a real thing.

847
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 1: It's a faction now and within Patriots fans, right, and

848
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 1: it's not a media creation. But watch if like Mac

849
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 1: plays really well, like two games in a row, watch

850
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: what happens. It's all the media did this. This was

851
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: never a thing in We didn't We never had any

852
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 1: doubts in this locker room. Well, you watch you watch. Yeah,

853
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 1: there were never any doubts in this locker room. Well

854
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: there wasn't, your head coach, because he was going back

855
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: and forth in the game by design. Um, Sunday is

856
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: a salute to service game, so there'll be a lot

857
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: of stuff going on around that in your database. As

858
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,879
Speaker 1: Bill ever warned the salute to Service gear. I don't

859
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:35,760
Speaker 1: think so. No, no, I actually that would be conforming

860
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: to what the league might want him to do, right.

861
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 1: I was getting worried there for a second, You're gonna

862
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 1: put me on the spot. But no, no, I don't

863
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 1: think he ever has. I'll double check that when I

864
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: get back to I wonder, like, on track, can you

865
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: like put a search engine in you know, sorry, search engine?

866
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 1: And can I do a control? Can find what? Yeah?

867
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: Can you can you find something special? I wonder if

868
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: DraftKings has odds on like whether or not Bill will

869
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: wear the Salute to Service gear. Oh I would. I

870
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: would get on those odds. I mean it was funny,

871
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: it was, you know, because of some of the Super

872
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: Bowls they had real lines for luck he would wear.

873
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and you know people would come, will come

874
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: Colin for for that, I mean the red the red one,

875
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: of course, is the one that gives everybody the chills. Yeah,

876
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: nobody wants to have you the red um, but yeah,

877
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 1: it's uh, it's funny. I always wonder someday if I

878
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 1: if there's like a funny way to talk ask him

879
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: about it. I don't think I ever will, but I

880
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: just imagine that somewhere in this building there's a bunch

881
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: of old hoodies and nobody knows what they are but me. Yeah.

882
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 1: The other thing they were talking about that made me

883
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 1: laugh on Paul Show was you know, we're super Bowl lost,

884
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: like any team. That was funny. Somebody was talking about,

885
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: you know, the Jets beating the call. Someone was making

886
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,720
Speaker 1: trying to make the case of Belichick over Don Shula,

887
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 1: which I think even they all are on board with. Yeah, like,

888
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: we're all like Belichick. So what got Some old timer

889
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 1: calls up and says all the reasons why Belichick is

890
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,439
Speaker 1: better than Don Shula, and one of them he goes

891
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,879
Speaker 1: and he lost the big the biggest super Bowl choke

892
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: job in history, the biggest, biggest, biggest loss in Super

893
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 1: Bowl history. And everybody just stopped and said, what about

894
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: all seven? I think you a guy has that And

895
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: even Mike Martz, you know in in one that was

896
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,959
Speaker 1: a fourteen point. Yeah. The biggest spread was probably Super

897
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: Bowl three. I think it was like eighteen, like by

898
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,439
Speaker 1: the number, right, But you realize that was a big

899
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: spread because people still didn't think the AFL on par

900
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: with the NFL, no respect for they had no respect

901
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: for the AFL. Right, here's a dumb question. There were

902
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: spreads back of the day, in like the sixties and seventies.

903
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: I don't know why to say, Jimmy, but you know,

904
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: the sports betting. Vegas sports betting has been a thing

905
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 1: for a long time. Oh yeah, yeah, I never I

906
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,399
Speaker 1: never just really thought about I mean I never really

907
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 1: did either. So maybe it was Jimmy the nose, but

908
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: I always thought Vegas sports betting has been a thing

909
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: since Vegas has been a Vegas. Yeah, we have to

910
00:42:52,600 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 1: go to Godfather two or you know, business Tommy Freddy. Yeah,

911
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: everybody's here. Eight five five past five hundred is the

912
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: ah take a hot line web radio at Patriots dot

913
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: com is the email address. UM Evan will be here

914
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: after practice. He just stopped in briefly a little while. Yeah,

915
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: he heard Paul making fun of all twenty two and

916
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 1: he stomped out again. They already misquote me enough. Because

917
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 1: I don't like all twenty two doesn't mean I make

918
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: fun of it. It's just a funny thing to say.

919
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 1: It's like I don't like seeing all the players at once.

920
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:32,240
Speaker 1: Like that's like, that's what you're saying. Oh, Harry comes,

921
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: it comes to the orange man, help bent for leather,

922
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: getting ready for four years of traffic on route twenty four?

923
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: Did you do your hit? Did you do your hit?

924
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: I did? Yeah? Okay, So now why don't you repeat

925
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: it so people can hear it? Can you hear me? Yeah? Yeah,

926
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna turn this up. Who's over here? They turn

927
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: it way down? Evan Evan sensitive years. Yeah, yeah, Evan.

928
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: Since there, he's not interested in anything that Paul says.

929
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: That is true. You don't play well together here for you?

930
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: How are you doing? I don't know. I'm standing to

931
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: a person with a mask. I'm all right, I'm all right,

932
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: don't worry, I'm all right. I'm good. Yeah, yeah, you

933
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: made me laugh. Why what was the phrase, I find

934
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: players or something? Yeah? In the draft years, I find

935
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: play But I'm giving him credit because that was a

936
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 1: guy that Fred did like and and so our lads

937
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 1: liked him. But first of all our lads had him

938
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 1: in that. Actually, there's no better one than I. Now

939
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: do a cross between our lads and the beast. Oh

940
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: so you look for things that are missing from our lads.

941
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 1: So what we got? What are we talking about? Um?

942
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: So how do you what do you think of the

943
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,879
Speaker 1: last game and the one coming up? Think of the offense? Yeah?

944
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 1: Both focused on the offense. I think, um, there is

945
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: a severe confidence problem in the offense all the way around.

946
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: In all ways. I don't think Mac Jones has confidence

947
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:49,439
Speaker 1: in the fat guys in front of them, the skinny

948
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: guys that are supposed to get open, the guys on

949
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:52,879
Speaker 1: the sideline they're supposed to give him plays. I think

950
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: you're about the confidence in Yeah, I was just no.

951
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: I think that's an issue too. I think they are

952
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 1: an offense without confidence in any direction. Bill's trying. I

953
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 1: think Bill started talking up Mac a little bit. Can

954
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: you remember like a sequence that was as blatant as

955
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 1: pick six overturned dive, dive, kneeled down? Yep? Can you

956
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: remember a play, like a sequence of plays that was

957
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: that egregious? Which I find funny because one of the

958
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,879
Speaker 1: narratives we've dealt with in the last month is like, oh,

959
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: when Max out there, they go gun and they make

960
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: him throw it while they've thrown it down to field,

961
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 1: and like that's a perfect example. No, they'd lost confidence

962
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: in their quarterback and they're just gonna go to the

963
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: locker room and avoid the seventeen to three deficit. Like

964
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: I firmly believe the season his season, I don't know

965
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 1: about his career. Maybe a little strong. Yeah, yeah, it's

966
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 1: a big argument, but but definitely like if that ref,

967
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: if that ref is like a damn, the flag won't

968
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: come out at whatever, we'll ignore it. And and that's

969
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 1: a tough in seventeen three, I think you get blown

970
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 1: out by the Jets at MetLife Stadium. I don't think

971
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson has his meltdown because he's the cock of

972
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 1: the walk. He can just cruise to victory with the

973
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 1: defense pinning their ears back. And now Max a you know,

974
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: humpty dumpty broken mess at the bottom of the wall, Like,

975
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 1: but it didn't. And give him credit. And I think

976
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: his tone post game was the most positive thing coming

977
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:10,839
Speaker 1: out of that game. I thought he had positive tone.

978
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 1: Do you think the Patriots from a you know, weapons standpoint,

979
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: have enough pieces to be good the offense absolutely not? No, No,

980
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 1: where's the other than the line strong? He's stronger on that.

981
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: I'm assuming the line plays okay, but just from a

982
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: piece way? What was the question? I may not have

983
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 1: been listening. Do they have the pieces of the offense

984
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 1: to be good, to be good? Okay? No, I was listening. No, Okay,

985
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't deficiency do you think? Um? I

986
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 1: don't know who's good on the outside now that you've

987
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: loved Jacoby Myers is good at what he does, but

988
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 1: what he does is what he does. There's like a

989
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 1: like he's soup. There's a ceiling like it can only

990
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: be that good. It's not a great meal. And these

991
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: are the Indians that you've missed my soup. I like

992
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: soup too, But if you have soup for dinner, you're

993
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: not You're usually hungry in like an hour. All that feeling,

994
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 1: that's true. You know I beat the bills with SUPs. No,

995
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 1: you're not gonna beat bills? Was soup like? Particularly this

996
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: week when it was really evident, like John U. Smith

997
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:11,280
Speaker 1: and Nelson Agilar and Kendrick Bourne were like three catches

998
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 1: on ten targets. Is that that's whose fault? Is that?

999
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 1: Why are you yelling at me? No, but that seemed

1000
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,439
Speaker 1: like that at tone. I think it's all the fault.

1001
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,359
Speaker 1: But like so Matt Patricia, no, no, no, sorry, beep

1002
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: beep beep, beat back it up, Bill Belichick. Okay, it's

1003
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: Bill's fault. But but he said blame him, So I'm

1004
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: gonna blame him. So you do you have one good

1005
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 1: offensive player in his name is rom Andrey Stevenson. Well,

1006
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 1: excuse me, really good offen. Now you're talking person the

1007
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 1: best player of the team. I've said it all year.

1008
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: You're on the fence, not at all. I said that

1009
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:40,839
Speaker 1: I think that he is the best player of the team.

1010
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: But if someone said where would they be without him?

1011
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 1: I said probably four and four. Oh yeah, it's it's

1012
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 1: so that was interpet as. I said he was irrelevant.

1013
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: But I mean, Christian McCaffrey's really good and the Panthers sucked. Correct, Like,

1014
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 1: there's only so much one individual can guy can do

1015
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 1: other than franchise quarterback. Like those guys, we learned better

1016
00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: than anybody. Those guys cover things up. I just want

1017
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 1: to be clear, even if everything was working, you know,

1018
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:06,439
Speaker 1: the offensive line was good, the coaching was stable, all that.

1019
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,919
Speaker 1: You don't think that these receivers, running backs and tight

1020
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: ends are good, uh, not good enough. I think some

1021
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 1: of them are good. I don't know what happened to

1022
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: Kendrick Bourne. I'm still a lie. That's the thing. I

1023
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 1: thought he was good. You just mentioned you said the

1024
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 1: exact words I said. I'm at a loss, yeah, because

1025
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: I do think that these pieces are good enough to

1026
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: make the offense good. And I don't really like do

1027
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: you watch other games, I'll see the talent that the

1028
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 1: other team. Look, how about this week? I don't they

1029
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 1: have a better running back, they have a better wide receiver?

1030
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:39,320
Speaker 1: Like No, But I'm I'm more than satisfied with Damian

1031
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 1: Harris and vermondre Stevenson. I think, you know, yeah, I

1032
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 1: think I think about their tight ends and wide receivers. Yeah.

1033
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 1: I think Aggalore, Parker Born and Myers are four good receivers.

1034
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: They're not if they're your fours. The trouble is somebody's

1035
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 1: gonna be a one and a two three. I have

1036
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 1: the three. Jacobe Myers is my three. I would have

1037
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 1: traded Jakobe Myers to like the Rams or somebody, because

1038
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 1: I think I would love to see him play like

1039
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 1: opposite Cooper Cup and see like the story of Jacobe

1040
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: Myers just evolved. Because I think he's the nicest guy

1041
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 1: on the planet. Yeah, I love him and I would

1042
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: love to He's gonna wither away. He'll listen to this,

1043
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: mister Myers. It's not just the guys that work for

1044
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 1: the Patriots that love your son. Oh, mister Myers listening. Oh,

1045
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 1: his kid is the absolute best. That's why I want

1046
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 1: him to sign for whatever fifty million dollars and go

1047
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 1: somewhere where he can be like the perfect fit to

1048
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,280
Speaker 1: the rest of the scheme around him. Yeah, like even Buffalo.

1049
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: I've said, if you put him opposite digs with Josh Allen, yeah,

1050
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 1: I don't know what Paul's got his hands tumbling him.

1051
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: This is what they always accuse you of, as they

1052
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: say that all the food would just come in Andy

1053
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:44,399
Speaker 1: just dig right, and he wouldn't even wait for the show.

1054
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 1: We have a guest on the show who's talking. You

1055
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,439
Speaker 1: don't need me to talk, so they bad mouth me. Yeah. See,

1056
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,399
Speaker 1: I disagree. I think that I think these guys are good.

1057
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 1: I think there's just something wrong with the offense as

1058
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: a whole. But don't you need great um, don't you

1059
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: need a tent pole? Well, you never see it tent.

1060
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 1: It's got the big pole in the middle and all

1061
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 1: the other little you need, but take the middle pole

1062
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:07,280
Speaker 1: out of collapses on the one pole. But let me

1063
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 1: let me I said, I said before the season, I

1064
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: think the Patriots have the pieces to be a good Okay,

1065
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 1: but let me say this not okay because we don't

1066
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: have to get not right now. No, no, we don't

1067
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 1: have to get semantics. Okay, because you're probably right, they

1068
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 1: probably have the pieces to be good on offense. But

1069
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 1: but I would just ask you, do you think the

1070
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 1: Jets have the pieces to be good on offense? Yeah?

1071
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,439
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not as familiar with their receiving. Okay,

1072
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 1: so they have they have Corey Davis like them. They

1073
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 1: have Garrett Wilson, they have Elijah Moore, and they have

1074
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 1: Denzel miss They're being held back by the quarter. They

1075
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 1: have Ty Conklin who got like six balls for either

1076
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 1: yards and two touchdowns the other day. They have um

1077
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: Breeze Hall. Think about Michael carter Is running backs and

1078
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 1: as bad as as bad as Wilson was He threw

1079
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 1: for over three hundred fifty yards, right, imagine if he

1080
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: didn't turn the ball over, but by being held back

1081
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 1: by that. So I would say that the Jets have

1082
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 1: the piece is to be good on offense. Do they

1083
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 1: have the pieces to be great? No? You know why

1084
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 1: because their quarterbacks not good their quarterback, But the Patriots

1085
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: have the pieces to be good. Okay, so that's all

1086
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: I'm asking. But the Jets have one of the worst

1087
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:16,919
Speaker 1: offenses in football because of the quarterback. Yes, in large part.

1088
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 1: But you if from a Patriots perspective, the way I

1089
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 1: look at it, they have questions in coaching. They have

1090
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: question questions at receiver, questions at line, questions at quarterback.

1091
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 1: You know what that means? You're probably not that good.

1092
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: Like you, they're not. There's too many questions and not

1093
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:35,280
Speaker 1: enough answers. My reply to that is, other than the quarterback,

1094
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 1: than the coaches, they shouldn't have questions that receive why

1095
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: because I think they're good. But just because you think

1096
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: it doesn't make it. So that's just my opinion. You know,

1097
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 1: you can't have an opinion. Nobody, not even the stats

1098
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 1: back you up, right, So we go to production then

1099
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: we go to like next gen, this whole Davante Parker

1100
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 1: hasn't got separation in three and a half years. Stuff

1101
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 1: like it. Just sometimes you can think something I thought

1102
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 1: John U. Smith was to be good. He is not.

1103
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: When when these guys get chances, they produce who Myers

1104
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: Parker even Aggalore at times, you know, and then produce

1105
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:12,280
Speaker 1: which team does he produce for? And then they freeze

1106
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 1: him out after he drops a B as they should.

1107
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 1: You know, I wouldn't throw to him, well, Taekwon Thornton,

1108
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 1: we wanted to, Like, I haven't even included him, but

1109
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 1: last week coming across right by the hands because I

1110
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: saw this guy over here, He's gonna hit me and

1111
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: I'm little, I didn't even include him in the top four. Yeah,

1112
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 1: they're not that good. I just think they could be

1113
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:30,720
Speaker 1: better than what they are. I know that I agree

1114
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: with that I better than This is why I said

1115
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 1: the semantic thing, because I agree that what we do here.

1116
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 1: I agree with Fred they should be better than what

1117
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 1: they've shown. So that's that's I don't think that they

1118
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,359
Speaker 1: have the capability being much better than after I think

1119
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 1: that's they're not good enough. They can be better. They

1120
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:47,800
Speaker 1: can be better than good enough. Well, I would disagree

1121
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 1: with you about everybody, like when given a chance is

1122
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 1: produced like Savante Parker had one good game, right, like

1123
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 1: you only given a chance once? Oh really no, No,

1124
00:52:57,920 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 1: he's been given more chances than he probably deserved in

1125
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: those games. I mean there was a time would pretty

1126
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: much every other pass thrown in his direction wounded up

1127
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: at his an interception. Yes, I think not all on him.

1128
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:08,839
Speaker 1: I think that play got hurt on in the first

1129
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 1: play was predictable too, that they've been running that as

1130
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 1: their first pass to play for like four straight games

1131
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: where it's the quick little slant off of him, it's

1132
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,240
Speaker 1: he all either contested, catches up the you know, fades

1133
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,240
Speaker 1: up the sideline or that little play and they snuffed

1134
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 1: it out there. They haven't looked good. I mean, I

1135
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 1: don't know what that um that fourth down thing was.

1136
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:29,399
Speaker 1: I'm not really sure. So this was my Dart's theory

1137
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 1: should have been a touchdown. Yeah you missed it. Well, well,

1138
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, but Dart's theory, and he admitted his

1139
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 1: theory was that that that Meyers should have should have

1140
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 1: gone and that he ran the wrong route. My impressions

1141
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 1: you had Hunter Henry, like, just throw it to Hunter Henry.

1142
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 1: And I think my impression maybe was that Mac was

1143
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 1: trying to improvise and saw all the open field behind

1144
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 1: Myers and said we got a touchdown if he just

1145
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 1: sees this and goes and we improvised. I felt like

1146
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 1: he was trying to like mahomes them a little bit.

1147
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: No, no no, no, just go, go go. And then by

1148
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 1: that time Henry was covered. There was nothing he could do.

1149
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 1: Throw it away. Yeah, well you can't. It was fourth down,

1150
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:03,359
Speaker 1: but you know, bestime for a drop all empty, it's

1151
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 1: better than throwing a pick. I just thought it looked

1152
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:09,240
Speaker 1: like they put a Mahomes like there was the little

1153
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 1: fake like yeah, I don't know that it was a

1154
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 1: real fake, not a fake. But like, I don't think

1155
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,879
Speaker 1: that's Mac, Like I don't. I don't know that that's

1156
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,320
Speaker 1: where he's at his best ad living on fourth down.

1157
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: And and maybe, I mean, there's clearly been a couple

1158
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:25,760
Speaker 1: of miscommunications. The pick six. He keeps saying very clearly,

1159
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: that's not my fault, that's a miscommunication. They're they're just

1160
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 1: not a good offense. They're not efficient, they're not effective.

1161
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: I mean, they guys rolling into the end zone half

1162
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 1: the time, Like it's just nothing's pretty, nothing's easy. I

1163
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 1: actually thought it's a slog and it's looked a lot

1164
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: like the training camp. That's like it hasn't looked good

1165
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 1: since the summer. We're back to that. And I like

1166
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 1: the way you say it, though, Fred, Like that implies

1167
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 1: that it did look good on the summer. No, I

1168
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 1: never remember, and it should never be Mac running like

1169
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,879
Speaker 1: or very infrequently. I won't say never, but like, why

1170
00:54:58,000 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 1: is that happening so much? To me, that's an end

1171
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 1: action of what's wrong with the offense so much, whether

1172
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 1: it's his mental the confidence, the play calling, the blocking,

1173
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 1: the whole thing. And that might be why I get

1174
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 1: like a little bit clouded. You know, I told you

1175
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 1: after the game, I didn't think Max sucked in the game.

1176
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,840
Speaker 1: I thought the biggest problem in the game was past protection.

1177
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 1: He was under siege all day. I don't think he

1178
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 1: did great handling that, so some of that's on Mac.

1179
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,760
Speaker 1: But to extrapolate from that and say that he actually

1180
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,839
Speaker 1: played really well, which is what I would argue with

1181
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 1: Greg about. To me, I'm not gonna tell you, like

1182
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 1: I don't want that, Like that's not offense. That I'm

1183
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 1: looking for him scrambling around, you know, and luckily getting

1184
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 1: a fifteen yard penalty a half of you you know, like,

1185
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe a blade of grass short of

1186
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 1: the first down. Maybe a blade of grass he got

1187
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 1: the first down. That's not what I'm looking for. That's

1188
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 1: not like I need plays. I need the offense to

1189
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 1: show some sort of cohesion. And Mike was on this

1190
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 1: during the game. Andy, did you notice like they had

1191
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 1: like five or six third down conversions early in the

1192
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 1: game they completely went away, But how many of them

1193
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 1: were like like if you added up the John H.

1194
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 1: Smith yards after the catch on one of them, Jacobe

1195
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,240
Speaker 1: Meyers getting like two black like they got the first

1196
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 1: down by like a combined lent of the football on

1197
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: three different first downs. They all count. I'm not taking

1198
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 1: them away, but like it just but they're not the same, right,

1199
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 1: They're not the old Julian Edelman, Troy Brown, he always

1200
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 1: gets you seven on third and six. But it's seven,

1201
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 1: God forbid, Andy, it's third and two when we get seventeen, right, right,

1202
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,399
Speaker 1: you know, because it's not saying that's where I would

1203
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 1: go back to, like the John H. Smith one like

1204
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,399
Speaker 1: he got he was in like midair man, and that's

1205
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 1: how he got it. That's great play by the laws

1206
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 1: of physics, got that first down more than anything else.

1207
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 1: And that's where I get back to, like, who's good.

1208
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:46,720
Speaker 1: Who's your go to guy? Ramandre? And you're gonna probably

1209
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 1: wear him out if you try to do every week

1210
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 1: like seven catch He's got fifteen balls the last two

1211
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 1: weeks if we continue, and seven catches and whatever, eighteen

1212
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 1: to twenty carries for a guy who's never really done that.

1213
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,919
Speaker 1: I thought he looked gassed. Was that three weeks ago,

1214
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 1: two weeks ago? Whenever that the Harris was out right?

1215
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:07,359
Speaker 1: He was just gassed. And it's like I would like

1216
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 1: to tap out, but I'm not gonna make you play

1217
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 1: Pierre Strong right now, so I'll jog back to the

1218
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 1: huddle and get hit again. Like yeah, that's a problem.

1219
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 1: And I love him, and it's it's the kind of

1220
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 1: thing where it's not even like the offensive line that's

1221
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 1: opened in the wholes form, like he's like, I got

1222
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 1: guys in his face. He's making guys miss in the

1223
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 1: backfield and then exploding like it hasn't been clean that

1224
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 1: I don't have a lot of like, oh, we'll just

1225
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 1: take Harrison there and he'll have the same production. But

1226
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 1: they need that out it the cults. I mean, the

1227
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 1: Bengals game will be a layup because you know, we're

1228
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 1: that much better than the Bengals now that we can

1229
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 1: just circle that as a scheduled win. Who said that?

1230
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 1: Your boys, Zoe? You can see him on Twitter layup Bengals,

1231
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 1: Oh boy, Like unbelievable. Why because the Bengals struggled the

1232
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 1: other night, Like there's a lot of bad football this year. Now,

1233
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 1: they were without their best player and that's part of it.

1234
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 1: And I actually think they'll probably be without their best

1235
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 1: player when they play you, because I think this hip

1236
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 1: injury with Jamar Chase is going to go down a

1237
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 1: weird road. But like, what are you penciling in? I

1238
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 1: actually heard you when I came when you were coming in.

1239
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 1: I did the same thing on Mud at Night the

1240
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 1: Bears week. I did the pregame show with him. I

1241
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 1: did a hit right before the game and callers were like,

1242
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna roll through the Bears, and I'm like,

1243
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 1: aren't they only one game different than you? Like, when

1244
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 1: did we get these big balls that we're a half

1245
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 1: game ahead of the Colts. But we can laugh at

1246
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 1: the Colts and mock them and say, like, and I

1247
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 1: do believe they have the absolute pieces to win this

1248
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 1: football game if Ellinger can play. I don't know you

1249
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 1: know who the voice is on this show with regard

1250
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 1: to that, me, Fred really Fred chat chat because I

1251
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 1: was one of the ones that said they really have

1252
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 1: no business losing to the Bears. They didn't, but they

1253
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 1: did before the game. That was the only one I

1254
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 1: was willing to give before the season. And Fred like

1255
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 1: didn't chastise me, but he disagreed with me and said,

1256
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 1: you can't do that. You can't pencil in. They're not

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Speaker 1: we had. Isaiah went to Atlanta and they were willing

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Speaker 1: we tried almost all right, we're gonna take a break,

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Speaker 1: can plain about everything correct and now that it is

1463
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:14,160
Speaker 1: too hot for November. Second, oh right, so we got

1464
01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:17,080
Speaker 1: seventy degree weather in November, which normally you say, wow,

1465
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:19,800
Speaker 1: what a great day, let's go outside and and chill.

1466
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:23,160
Speaker 1: Know a lot of people being like, I'm sweating. Oh

1467
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:26,160
Speaker 1: my god, I have too many layers on going on.

1468
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 1: Oh this is what you know? This is oh my god.

1469
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:34,320
Speaker 1: Exactly what food did they serve the rabble today? We

1470
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 1: have pappuccino, pizzapine, I believe, yeah, this selection of you know,

1471
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:42,280
Speaker 1: I didn't return from Colts practice, but I should also

1472
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 1: just say that that Jonathan Taylor did not practice today.

1473
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:51,400
Speaker 1: After Okay, he's already queuing up the pause. People know people.

1474
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:55,720
Speaker 1: But I think that he's going to be able to

1475
01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 1: play really because he I mean, I'm just judging on

1476
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 1: the fact that he finished the last game. I think

1477
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:03,320
Speaker 1: it's probably more of a maintenance kind of managed. But

1478
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:05,600
Speaker 1: he's not he's not right. He hasn't really been one

1479
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:07,599
Speaker 1: hundred percent all year. Yeah, he had a twenty seven

1480
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 1: yard run on Sunday on his own read play that

1481
01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 1: last year housecall right instant house call this year got

1482
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 1: caught from behind. And I think that that's been kind

1483
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 1: of the story for the Colts all season long, is

1484
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:21,640
Speaker 1: that everything that they're doing last year at such a

1485
01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:24,960
Speaker 1: high level is just not at the same level this

1486
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:27,479
Speaker 1: year as it was last year. I actually looked up

1487
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:30,560
Speaker 1: the numbers today. They are dead last in dv OA

1488
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:34,559
Speaker 1: as a runoffense, dead last that offensive line like eighty

1489
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:37,240
Speaker 1: seven yards a game, Yeah, which is incredible because last

1490
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 1: year they were second. Only Cleveland was higher in football

1491
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 1: outside of his rankings than Indeed, this year they go

1492
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 1: from second to thirty second in one offseason. Matt Ryan

1493
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 1: and turnovers and that kind I think the offensive line

1494
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:52,040
Speaker 1: has been bad. Quentin Nelson and Ryan Kelly or like

1495
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:56,400
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl all Pro caliber players, and based on what

1496
01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 1: I read, you know, doing my matchup stuff, is that

1497
01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:03,200
Speaker 1: just have not played well at all. Yeah, regressing Colton

1498
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:07,320
Speaker 1: Quentin Nelson had Quinton a bunch of injuries last year

1499
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:11,599
Speaker 1: back toe, high ankle sprain, and you just wonder if

1500
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 1: I mean, he's still pretty young, but maybe it's starting

1501
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:16,240
Speaker 1: to catch up to him a little bit because he's

1502
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:18,400
Speaker 1: not the He's still good, but he's not the same

1503
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:20,400
Speaker 1: player that he that he was a couple of years ago. Yeah,

1504
01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:23,560
Speaker 1: there may have no chance if that's not how they play.

1505
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:25,960
Speaker 1: Like if they come in here and can't run the

1506
01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:28,559
Speaker 1: ball at all, they have no chance Mike's thing will happen, Yeah,

1507
01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:31,960
Speaker 1: because then it's all on on the kid and he's

1508
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:34,360
Speaker 1: throwing three or four picks. If they have to throw,

1509
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:37,719
Speaker 1: Like you look at those games that we talked about

1510
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:41,639
Speaker 1: Brissette with forty plus attempts, Zach Wilson with forty plus attempts.

1511
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:43,759
Speaker 1: If they ask Sam Ellinger to throw the ball forty

1512
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 1: plus times, the same thing is going to happen. They're

1513
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:50,680
Speaker 1: gonna have a mess of turnovers. Yep um Evan, Yes,

1514
01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:54,479
Speaker 1: you did all your film review uh and from what

1515
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:59,559
Speaker 1: I read, you think Mac wasn't all that bad. I've

1516
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:02,439
Speaker 1: it's funny. I was talking to Chris Ferreira, our Web

1517
01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 1: Extraordinary upstairs, and I said to him, by Wednesday, all

1518
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:09,040
Speaker 1: the takes are like ready to explode out of me, right,

1519
01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:11,920
Speaker 1: you know, just sitting on all this stuff. And I

1520
01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:13,960
Speaker 1: was going to come in here guns blazing about Mac

1521
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:17,160
Speaker 1: because I think the discourse about Mac in this town

1522
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:20,120
Speaker 1: is getting out of control because we have such a

1523
01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:24,080
Speaker 1: high standard of what good quarterback play is supposed to

1524
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:27,040
Speaker 1: look like. Because the last guy, well two guys ago,

1525
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 1: I guess now that was in here that surviving a

1526
01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:33,840
Speaker 1: game against a good defense is not good enough for

1527
01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:36,240
Speaker 1: Patriots fans. And I think a lot of the comments

1528
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:38,200
Speaker 1: that the coaching staff made about Mac, that people are

1529
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:40,760
Speaker 1: rolling her eyes at, like all they're just pumping him

1530
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:43,599
Speaker 1: up and things like that, is because bottom line, they

1531
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:45,720
Speaker 1: don't care about style points, right Like, if you win

1532
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 1: the game, you win the game. That's all that Bill

1533
01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:49,920
Speaker 1: Belichick and Joe Judge and Matt Patricia care about. I

1534
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:53,280
Speaker 1: don't think that Mac Jones played well, and quite frankly,

1535
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:56,200
Speaker 1: in PFF's grading right now, he's thirty seventh out of

1536
01:13:56,240 --> 01:13:59,599
Speaker 1: thirty eight quarterbacks, second to last in their system, only

1537
01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 1: ahead of Baker Mayfield. Right now in terms of quarterback

1538
01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 1: he's twenty fifth in the league a EPA per play.

1539
01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:08,720
Speaker 1: He's not had a good season, but he survived the

1540
01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:11,160
Speaker 1: game on Sunday, and he made some plays in the

1541
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:15,280
Speaker 1: first half, especially on third down crossing route to Jacobi Meyers,

1542
01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:18,400
Speaker 1: a couple scrambles on third downs, making wise decisions, checking

1543
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:21,080
Speaker 1: the football down and letting John who Smith pick up

1544
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:24,160
Speaker 1: the yards for him. Things like that that kept the

1545
01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:27,640
Speaker 1: Patriots alive in that game, kept them on schedule in

1546
01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:30,400
Speaker 1: that game. So in many ways, I thought he played

1547
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 1: well in terms of his decision making, and I guess

1548
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:36,479
Speaker 1: his understanding of that conversation that he had with Patricia.

1549
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:38,880
Speaker 1: It's okay to take a profit. We don't have to

1550
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:40,960
Speaker 1: push the ball down the field every single time. We

1551
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:43,400
Speaker 1: don't have to hunt for the big play every single

1552
01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 1: time we drop back. Sometimes the five yard check down

1553
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:48,479
Speaker 1: is what the defense is giving you, and you just

1554
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:49,880
Speaker 1: have to take what is there. And I thought he

1555
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:52,760
Speaker 1: did a better job of that sort of thing in

1556
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:55,880
Speaker 1: this game, and far from perfect, wasn't great, wasn't good,

1557
01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:58,680
Speaker 1: but he survived. Okay. I wonder what they're gonna do

1558
01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:01,160
Speaker 1: this week. I mean, it is it was that, you know,

1559
01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:03,760
Speaker 1: him making the decisions. Was that a game plan thing

1560
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 1: of let's focus on the shorter stuff. I mean, you

1561
01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:08,240
Speaker 1: got some good cornerbacks coming up the end this week.

1562
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:11,280
Speaker 1: I mean, we know Gilmore and Kenny Moore, and you know,

1563
01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:13,320
Speaker 1: I just I wonder how much the rains are going

1564
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:15,760
Speaker 1: to be loosed on him at all this week and

1565
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 1: if we'll start to see they're trying to push the

1566
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:21,479
Speaker 1: ball down the field again. But to me, loosening the

1567
01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 1: reins doesn't automatically mean pushing it down the field. You know,

1568
01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:28,679
Speaker 1: it's it's allowing him to, you know, check at the line.

1569
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 1: It's allowing him to adjust a route if you know that,

1570
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 1: and you know, call out of something that's been called in.

1571
01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:38,240
Speaker 1: You're trying to move the ball with thirty seconds stleft

1572
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:40,040
Speaker 1: in the half. Yeah, you know. It's it's not always

1573
01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:42,479
Speaker 1: like oh okay, the leash is longer, now throw it

1574
01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:46,320
Speaker 1: down the field. That yeah, it's it's not Mentally they

1575
01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 1: put a ton on his plate. And I get that.

1576
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:51,599
Speaker 1: A lot of people don't care, right like you say

1577
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:53,679
Speaker 1: that you're like whatever, like three four hundred and ninety

1578
01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:56,599
Speaker 1: nine yards almost through three interceptions in this game, Like

1579
01:15:57,080 --> 01:15:59,000
Speaker 1: stop telling me that he was making checks the line

1580
01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:01,400
Speaker 1: of scrimmage. But the bottom line is they put a

1581
01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:03,800
Speaker 1: ton on his plate. They were shotgun a lot of

1582
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:05,800
Speaker 1: the game. They did run more under center this week,

1583
01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:07,560
Speaker 1: but they were a lot of shotgun. They were a

1584
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:11,240
Speaker 1: lot of empty at times, and they kind of knew

1585
01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:14,640
Speaker 1: that their front, their offensive line wasn't gonna hold up

1586
01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:17,280
Speaker 1: yea and early on in that game. It was very

1587
01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:19,880
Speaker 1: crystal clear that the Jets were gonna get a ton

1588
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 1: of pressure on Matt Jones, and he was under pressure

1589
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:24,240
Speaker 1: on thirty nine percent of his dropbacks in this game,

1590
01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:26,800
Speaker 1: which for a guy that plays his style is a lot.

1591
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:31,000
Speaker 1: That's a very that's like an alarming number. Um, you know,

1592
01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:34,599
Speaker 1: Marcus Cannon gave up eight hurries in this game. Alarming number.

1593
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:38,600
Speaker 1: So you look at some of these things and you say, Okay,

1594
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 1: he managed the game right, Like he wasn't gonna go

1595
01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:45,000
Speaker 1: back and drop back five step drop. You know, Chuck

1596
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:47,400
Speaker 1: won forty yards down the field against the Jets defense

1597
01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 1: that's playing a lot of too high safety and getting

1598
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:51,040
Speaker 1: after it with four guys in the pass rush. Like

1599
01:16:51,240 --> 01:16:53,160
Speaker 1: that wasn't this type of game. This just wasn't the

1600
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:57,560
Speaker 1: moment for it. So you say, and I'll give you

1601
01:16:57,640 --> 01:16:59,320
Speaker 1: two plays that would have made it worse that do

1602
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:01,640
Speaker 1: not change it. Anything that happened, the pick six and

1603
01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:03,880
Speaker 1: the ball that hit CJ. Mosley in the chest. I

1604
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:06,680
Speaker 1: gottadmit the pick six bugging me. The pick six is

1605
01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:09,439
Speaker 1: bugging me. The conversation around the pick six is bugging me,

1606
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:13,320
Speaker 1: because first of all, it didn't it didn't flip and count.

1607
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:17,320
Speaker 1: So like we're getting are all crazy about a play

1608
01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:21,679
Speaker 1: that didn't count? Okay, Second of all, nobody, not people

1609
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:23,800
Speaker 1: like me that study the film every single week. Not

1610
01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:26,800
Speaker 1: anybody that's talking about this play has any clue who

1611
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:31,240
Speaker 1: is wrong. No, no, nobody, certainly nobody knows who was

1612
01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:34,280
Speaker 1: actually wrong on the play. So if you're telling me

1613
01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:37,559
Speaker 1: that this play, and I think for a lot of people,

1614
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:41,400
Speaker 1: this pick six that didn't count is changing the narrative

1615
01:17:41,439 --> 01:17:43,679
Speaker 1: around this entire game for Mac Jones. If you blame

1616
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:45,760
Speaker 1: Mac Jones for the pick six, then you think he

1617
01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:49,360
Speaker 1: played poorly. It's not blame. It's a play that happened

1618
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:54,519
Speaker 1: that is greatly skewing what you think happened in the game, right,

1619
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:57,960
Speaker 1: and nothing changed. It's not like, oh he could have

1620
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:00,720
Speaker 1: done this if if that guy I didn't make a

1621
01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:02,439
Speaker 1: great kip, but he did make a great cat whatever.

1622
01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:05,000
Speaker 1: It's a play that happened that was wiped out for

1623
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:09,000
Speaker 1: a penalty. It happened, and I don't think people would

1624
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:14,320
Speaker 1: be as passionately supportive of the performances. And Evan's not

1625
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:18,160
Speaker 1: necessarily passionately supportive. He's saying he did some good things,

1626
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:20,120
Speaker 1: which I think Mike and I would agree with we

1627
01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:22,759
Speaker 1: talked about in the post game show. Yea, the problem

1628
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:25,640
Speaker 1: on offense wasn't Mac Jones on Sunday, it was the

1629
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:33,200
Speaker 1: protection and that's what we said in the post game show. Others, right,

1630
01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:37,439
Speaker 1: Greg Bdard have been far more strongly on the mat

1631
01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:41,479
Speaker 1: camp than Evan just was talking right here as if

1632
01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:44,160
Speaker 1: those plays didn't happen, right. I think Bdard's point though,

1633
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:46,880
Speaker 1: because he's completely a thousand percent convinced that it was

1634
01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:49,720
Speaker 1: Jacobe Myers's fault. To you a point, you've watched it

1635
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:51,760
Speaker 1: a million times and you don't know. I watch he's

1636
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:56,960
Speaker 1: convinced it was it was Myers's fault. Look, I can

1637
01:18:57,040 --> 01:19:00,240
Speaker 1: see why just based off of the rules that no,

1638
01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:04,559
Speaker 1: it makes sense that it would be Myers's fault because

1639
01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:09,360
Speaker 1: the defender starts inside of him. It's like three clouds,

1640
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:11,240
Speaker 1: so that they're they're going over to the left side

1641
01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:14,720
Speaker 1: of the field with cover three, but the sideline is

1642
01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:16,800
Speaker 1: cleared out right Taykwon Thornton, I think it is who's

1643
01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:19,120
Speaker 1: on the outside. He takes the day third up the

1644
01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:21,559
Speaker 1: field and the sideline is the open area of the

1645
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:25,600
Speaker 1: field for that deep out to run. Into so Myers

1646
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:28,600
Speaker 1: based off of everything that we know, which is not

1647
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:31,160
Speaker 1: a whole lot, based off of not knowing the play call,

1648
01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 1: you would have thought that he would have thought to

1649
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:39,519
Speaker 1: break out. Now at the same time, you can see

1650
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:41,320
Speaker 1: why he did what he did, because I think he

1651
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:43,559
Speaker 1: was kind of trying to bait the corner to falling

1652
01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:45,680
Speaker 1: into the flat and then sit it down and be

1653
01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:48,400
Speaker 1: open on the inside. But I think at the end

1654
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:51,040
Speaker 1: of the day, you know, that's one play that happens

1655
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:53,759
Speaker 1: in a football game, You talk about it, you corrected

1656
01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:57,080
Speaker 1: on Monday, and hopefully it doesn't happen again. Yeah, I

1657
01:19:57,120 --> 01:19:58,880
Speaker 1: think you know, and I agree with the way you

1658
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:01,040
Speaker 1: laid it out, and uh, you know, It's just a

1659
01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:03,920
Speaker 1: part of the problem for me is that credit to

1660
01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:05,960
Speaker 1: Mac for manager of the game. We knew Mac manage

1661
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:08,479
Speaker 1: a game. I mean, I thought coming out of last year,

1662
01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:10,280
Speaker 1: if there was nothing else, I knew that Mac could

1663
01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:13,200
Speaker 1: manage a game, not make the killer mistake. You know,

1664
01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:15,760
Speaker 1: certainly they didn't have it some weeks, but he came

1665
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:18,400
Speaker 1: in thinking when can he take it, you know, a

1666
01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:21,040
Speaker 1: team and take them to the next level and not

1667
01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:23,960
Speaker 1: just manage the game, but turn the screws on a

1668
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:26,080
Speaker 1: good defense, and and that's where I think a lot

1669
01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 1: of people are waiting and I'm still waiting for that. That's,

1670
01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:29,920
Speaker 1: you know, for this team to take the next step.

1671
01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:32,040
Speaker 1: That's what has to happen. And that's great. I mean

1672
01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:34,120
Speaker 1: it's great Mac manage the game. He got him out

1673
01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:36,519
Speaker 1: of bad calls, He scrambled when he had to, he

1674
01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:39,000
Speaker 1: dealt with the pressure. But like at some point if

1675
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:42,200
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to start beating good defenses, and I

1676
01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 1: guess pay well, and I, like I said, I think

1677
01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:47,040
Speaker 1: the biggest problem was pass protection. I think he was

1678
01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:49,280
Speaker 1: under siege in this game. And I don't think that's

1679
01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:53,160
Speaker 1: an easy way to play for anybody. That's you know,

1680
01:20:53,240 --> 01:20:56,479
Speaker 1: an extenuating circumstance as to why he wasn't maybe better

1681
01:20:56,640 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 1: than he was, And I get it. But no one's

1682
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:03,920
Speaker 1: really talking about how easy this game was for them,

1683
01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:05,920
Speaker 1: Like all anybody saw him was how hard it was

1684
01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 1: for him because the Jets have a good defense and

1685
01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:10,080
Speaker 1: they had a lot of pressure. No one's talking about

1686
01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:12,720
Speaker 1: the five times he took over in Jets territory and

1687
01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:16,160
Speaker 1: wasn't able to score any points, right, Like the three

1688
01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:19,439
Speaker 1: drives without virtual over first down three scoring drives without

1689
01:21:19,439 --> 01:21:22,439
Speaker 1: getting the first down, Like, that's amazing. I was talking

1690
01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:24,880
Speaker 1: to somebody upstairs today and they were like, you know,

1691
01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:29,599
Speaker 1: we're really moving the ball. I'm like's been moving the ball?

1692
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:32,280
Speaker 1: You know? I could tell by the way you said it.

1693
01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:36,160
Speaker 1: And I said, I said, because I go, really, he goes, well,

1694
01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:37,880
Speaker 1: they kicked a lot of field goals. I go, they

1695
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:41,080
Speaker 1: were they set up at midfield, two hundred and eighty

1696
01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:44,920
Speaker 1: eight yards of offense. They started at midfield like five times.

1697
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:46,559
Speaker 1: They are twenty third in the league and yards per

1698
01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:48,720
Speaker 1: drive right now, Yeah, which I'm moving the ball. Which

1699
01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:51,599
Speaker 1: you know, like if if they had three hundred yards

1700
01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:54,400
Speaker 1: of offense in the game but ended up with thirty

1701
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:57,200
Speaker 1: eight points, I would say, well, yeah, they had great

1702
01:21:57,200 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 1: field position and they had short fields and they took

1703
01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 1: advantage of it. Like do you could only get thirty

1704
01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:03,360
Speaker 1: eight yards on that drive? That's why they only had

1705
01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:06,240
Speaker 1: three hundred yards of offense. But when you're going four

1706
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:09,880
Speaker 1: plays no yards field goal, four plays four yards field goal,

1707
01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:13,599
Speaker 1: there weren't more yards to get and they weren't getting them.

1708
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:17,120
Speaker 1: The protection is a major issue right tackle is a major, major,

1709
01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:20,120
Speaker 1: major issue. I think guard, you know, I think Cole

1710
01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 1: stranger would be is going to be fine once Andrews

1711
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:25,280
Speaker 1: comes back. And I tried to table that and be like, look,

1712
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:27,920
Speaker 1: David Andrews is helping him a lot, Like let's give

1713
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:31,240
Speaker 1: it an honest look and not just call Cole Strange

1714
01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:33,200
Speaker 1: John Hannah just yet. Like he's getting a lot of

1715
01:22:33,240 --> 01:22:35,599
Speaker 1: help from the Center and he didn't get the same

1716
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:37,880
Speaker 1: help from James Ferns. I think some of the drives

1717
01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:41,880
Speaker 1: that Paul's talking about, you know, the protection is not great.

1718
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:46,000
Speaker 1: And I do think that there's also instances where Patricia's

1719
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:48,479
Speaker 1: got some things in his bag and once the bag

1720
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:51,479
Speaker 1: is empty, the bag is empty. And to Evans point one,

1721
01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:54,280
Speaker 1: I know at least one maybe two of those short

1722
01:22:54,280 --> 01:22:57,680
Speaker 1: field drives opened with a sack, which like throws you

1723
01:22:57,760 --> 01:23:00,479
Speaker 1: all off, Like now now you're thinking, you know, you know,

1724
01:23:00,720 --> 01:23:02,920
Speaker 1: but now you're thinking, don't do anything to lose the

1725
01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:05,000
Speaker 1: field goal as opposed to let's get in the end

1726
01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 1: zone for a touchdown. Yeah, what was your impression of

1727
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:10,599
Speaker 1: the fourth down play? Um, because we've been having some

1728
01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:13,400
Speaker 1: discussion about what might have happened there or not. It's

1729
01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:18,800
Speaker 1: an RPO. Clearly, I think there was definitely miscommunication with

1730
01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:21,639
Speaker 1: Jacoby Myers. But I think the one problem that I

1731
01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:23,479
Speaker 1: had with Mac on the plays that he seemed to

1732
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:26,320
Speaker 1: get locked into Jacoby Myers on the play and thought

1733
01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:29,479
Speaker 1: he had Henry definitely had Hunter Henry Um. I think

1734
01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:32,439
Speaker 1: if that's one of those plays that my guess is

1735
01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:34,479
Speaker 1: is he saw like a home run because he's pointing

1736
01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:36,679
Speaker 1: to go up the field to Jacoby Myers because there's

1737
01:23:36,680 --> 01:23:39,280
Speaker 1: no safety over the top because everybody reacted to the run.

1738
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:42,920
Speaker 1: So I think he's hoping that Jacoby goes up the

1739
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:44,960
Speaker 1: field and they might actually hit it for a touchdown.

1740
01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:47,559
Speaker 1: But really that this is one of those times where

1741
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:51,120
Speaker 1: taking a profit is in the conversation again Henry on

1742
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:53,519
Speaker 1: them he if he threw it to Henry right away,

1743
01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:56,160
Speaker 1: he had it. Yeah, sure about some strategy stuff as

1744
01:23:56,160 --> 01:23:59,160
Speaker 1: opposed to Um, like game strategy as opposed to like

1745
01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:00,920
Speaker 1: the XS and knows. What did you think of those

1746
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:03,200
Speaker 1: two decisions on fourth and one to go for him?

1747
01:24:03,240 --> 01:24:06,080
Speaker 1: I was shocked. I was shocked that they went for it,

1748
01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:11,400
Speaker 1: not as much on the goal line the Jacobe touchdown,

1749
01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:14,720
Speaker 1: because I think at that point in the game they

1750
01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:17,280
Speaker 1: had Wilson seeing ghosts and like, even if they don't

1751
01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:19,360
Speaker 1: get it he's got to go ninety five yards the

1752
01:24:19,400 --> 01:24:22,040
Speaker 1: other direction to score a touchdown. And I think they

1753
01:24:22,120 --> 01:24:25,559
Speaker 1: liked their chances. But the one that Mike just asked

1754
01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:28,920
Speaker 1: about in the last three or four years, that's a

1755
01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:32,439
Speaker 1: clear kick situation for Bill. Clear kick. But I think

1756
01:24:32,479 --> 01:24:35,000
Speaker 1: it's got to change. Like I wasn't shocked that he

1757
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:36,840
Speaker 1: went for it, because I've seen him go for fourth downs,

1758
01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:39,320
Speaker 1: I've seen him go for field goals. What what I

1759
01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:42,320
Speaker 1: don't understand is usually I feel like those decisions are

1760
01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:44,760
Speaker 1: based on the game, and in this game, I don't

1761
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:46,559
Speaker 1: think he went by based on the game, because if

1762
01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:47,880
Speaker 1: you go and based on the game, you kick, and

1763
01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:49,840
Speaker 1: field goals take the point both times. You think it's

1764
01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:51,880
Speaker 1: more about what he had wanted to prove something you

1765
01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:54,040
Speaker 1: had to know. I don't think he wanted to prove anything.

1766
01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:57,200
Speaker 1: I just think he decided to go for it because

1767
01:24:57,800 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 1: it was clear you will if you could get to twenty,

1768
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:01,240
Speaker 1: you were gonna win the game. That game was going

1769
01:25:01,320 --> 01:25:03,760
Speaker 1: to be in the teams. That was going to be

1770
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:07,479
Speaker 1: in the teams. And I mean, I don't know the

1771
01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:11,120
Speaker 1: second fourth down, he had only thrown one pick. By

1772
01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:12,920
Speaker 1: the second fourth down. It was the first drive of

1773
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:15,600
Speaker 1: the second half, right, So he had one overthrow of

1774
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:17,639
Speaker 1: a of a back over the middle at that point.

1775
01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:19,880
Speaker 1: He didn't know that Zach Wilson was going to do

1776
01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:23,200
Speaker 1: that after that Well, I'm sorry, I'm sure he did.

1777
01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:26,840
Speaker 1: I just didn't think it was was in line with

1778
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:30,719
Speaker 1: how he normally goes, like against Kansas City against Buffalo,

1779
01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:33,280
Speaker 1: by all means, you're going for fourth and one. By

1780
01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:36,800
Speaker 1: all means like field goals ain't winning this game. That game,

1781
01:25:37,320 --> 01:25:39,719
Speaker 1: you could have kicked all field goals and won that game. Yeah,

1782
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:41,360
Speaker 1: So what if he's playing like I know, this is

1783
01:25:41,400 --> 01:25:45,080
Speaker 1: getting into a little bit of a vortex here, but

1784
01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:48,040
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to go for it against Buffalo. I

1785
01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:49,800
Speaker 1: think that they might have to go again for it

1786
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:52,000
Speaker 1: against Miami at this rate, because Miami has the best

1787
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:54,000
Speaker 1: passing offense in the league right now. If we don't

1788
01:25:54,040 --> 01:25:55,880
Speaker 1: start now, when are we gonna When are we going

1789
01:25:55,880 --> 01:25:57,800
Speaker 1: to learn it? When are we gonna This is in

1790
01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:00,120
Speaker 1: game I hate to call it in game practice, but

1791
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:02,120
Speaker 1: it's kind of in game practice. It's a good defense.

1792
01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:04,519
Speaker 1: They had a good play that they thought was going

1793
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:07,559
Speaker 1: to work in this situation. Well, and in that case,

1794
01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:09,200
Speaker 1: I like that stuff. I mean I like, you know,

1795
01:26:09,240 --> 01:26:11,040
Speaker 1: if if we talk about like pushing the ball down

1796
01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:12,840
Speaker 1: the field, just you know, trying to get the offense

1797
01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:15,759
Speaker 1: to the next level by any means necessary, and it doesn't,

1798
01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:18,080
Speaker 1: you know, have to necessarily be personnel. Like I like

1799
01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:20,559
Speaker 1: that stuff. And if that's the case, then I think

1800
01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:22,519
Speaker 1: that that's exactly what the kind of stuff that they

1801
01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:24,479
Speaker 1: have to do to you know, put the pressure on

1802
01:26:24,520 --> 01:26:26,639
Speaker 1: these guys in and you know, not just the players,

1803
01:26:26,640 --> 01:26:28,960
Speaker 1: but the coaches too. I think understanding you know, what's

1804
01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:31,400
Speaker 1: going to work, what we can do in short yardage

1805
01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:34,519
Speaker 1: fortune stuff, I'm really interested. I mean you're never going

1806
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:36,920
Speaker 1: to get an answer, but that's the stuff I'm interested in,

1807
01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:39,479
Speaker 1: Like why yes on this one, no on that one,

1808
01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:41,600
Speaker 1: and what goes into it. But it's interesting, you know

1809
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:44,280
Speaker 1: how the tables have turned because you know, during the

1810
01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:46,639
Speaker 1: Brady era, I always said that you know, the most

1811
01:26:46,640 --> 01:26:49,840
Speaker 1: aggressive fourth thound. Well, no, the Patriots are forcing the

1812
01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:52,720
Speaker 1: other AFC East teams to make bad decisions, whether it's

1813
01:26:52,920 --> 01:26:55,760
Speaker 1: in the offseason with personnel or in game. And now

1814
01:26:55,760 --> 01:27:00,160
Speaker 1: it's the Patriots like chasing the Bills and kind of everything.

1815
01:27:00,240 --> 01:27:02,559
Speaker 1: Our mindset is how do we beat the Bills? How

1816
01:27:02,560 --> 01:27:04,639
Speaker 1: do we beat the Bills? You know what it used

1817
01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:06,160
Speaker 1: to be for all these other teams? How do we

1818
01:27:06,280 --> 01:27:08,719
Speaker 1: beat Brady and the Patriots? You know? And they would

1819
01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:11,559
Speaker 1: you know, I think for me, like I mean not

1820
01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:13,280
Speaker 1: to get off topic, but I mean for me, it's like,

1821
01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:15,599
Speaker 1: how the hell do you How does anyone stop Josh Allen?

1822
01:27:15,680 --> 01:27:17,200
Speaker 1: I mean you just have to kind of hope and

1823
01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:20,040
Speaker 1: pray that Josh Allen has enough bad plays, because he

1824
01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:22,760
Speaker 1: still has some that it impacts the outcome of the game.

1825
01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:25,360
Speaker 1: Talk about like the guy who just gets it now

1826
01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:28,640
Speaker 1: and like it's coming easy to him. He's in con

1827
01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:31,080
Speaker 1: total control. You gotta hope that it's one of those games.

1828
01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:32,760
Speaker 1: And he had like a little bit I don't know

1829
01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:35,600
Speaker 1: if you guys watch Sunday Night, Yeah, a little. I

1830
01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:37,840
Speaker 1: think they kind of lost interest, to be honest with me.

1831
01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:41,560
Speaker 1: And he was playing like playground ball again, like and

1832
01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:44,000
Speaker 1: you know, he threw one away like Zach Wilson, he

1833
01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:45,559
Speaker 1: try to throw one away, he try to turf it

1834
01:27:46,080 --> 01:27:48,240
Speaker 1: and the guy picked it off. Like that can't happen.

1835
01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:51,840
Speaker 1: I think the difference with with Allen too now then

1836
01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:54,360
Speaker 1: like I can only think of maybe like Prime Cam,

1837
01:27:54,760 --> 01:27:57,760
Speaker 1: like he finishes runs like he's not just trying to

1838
01:27:57,960 --> 01:28:00,800
Speaker 1: like he's not Lamar. Like Lamar will run and then

1839
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:03,080
Speaker 1: he'll dance out of bounds or he'll slide and kind

1840
01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:06,360
Speaker 1: of give himself up. Josh Allen is coming for you,

1841
01:28:06,600 --> 01:28:09,080
Speaker 1: right he like we're got that touchdown. He through too

1842
01:28:09,120 --> 01:28:11,599
Speaker 1: where it's like and you gotta like you're you gotta

1843
01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:14,240
Speaker 1: train coming head on and you're either gonna get run

1844
01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:17,160
Speaker 1: over or he's gonna rock. If Brock was a quarterback,

1845
01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:19,960
Speaker 1: you know, like he's just go out there. You know,

1846
01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:23,040
Speaker 1: he's like a big kid who's just better than everybody else.

1847
01:28:23,320 --> 01:28:26,120
Speaker 1: You know, we had a lot of lots of people

1848
01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:28,080
Speaker 1: holding on who've been holding on for a while. So

1849
01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:30,920
Speaker 1: let's get to the A sticket hot line. Calvin and Denver.

1850
01:28:31,080 --> 01:28:35,800
Speaker 1: You're still there, Calvin, Yeah, I'm so thanks for holding on. Yeah,

1851
01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:40,519
Speaker 1: just like hearing the show. Thank you. M hoping all

1852
01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:42,720
Speaker 1: of you guys are doing good on this Wednesday. Thank

1853
01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:47,280
Speaker 1: you much. Um So, I'll trying to email this question

1854
01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:49,920
Speaker 1: in um a couple of times, but you guys have

1855
01:28:49,960 --> 01:28:52,920
Speaker 1: a ready. UM. I just want to know, have you

1856
01:28:52,960 --> 01:28:56,479
Speaker 1: guys ever thought about adding somebody onto the show? Like

1857
01:28:56,520 --> 01:29:00,800
Speaker 1: one of the callers like William and Philo, anybody, Well,

1858
01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:02,800
Speaker 1: they're kind of already on the show. I mean, it's

1859
01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:05,080
Speaker 1: just that they're calling in. You know, you only have

1860
01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:08,080
Speaker 1: so many microphones in the studio. But um, you know

1861
01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:12,160
Speaker 1: they're they're regulars. Yeah, that's true. And I also do

1862
01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:14,559
Speaker 1: want to give them all a shout out just for

1863
01:29:14,680 --> 01:29:18,680
Speaker 1: all the calls and questions. It definitely helps get their

1864
01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:23,080
Speaker 1: show being entertaining and whatnot. There's so many dedicated people

1865
01:29:23,160 --> 01:29:27,160
Speaker 1: this show. Thank you, Calvin, appreciate that he held out

1866
01:29:27,160 --> 01:29:29,719
Speaker 1: for over an hour for that. Um. Jerry's in New Orleans.

1867
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:35,559
Speaker 1: What's up? Jerry? Hello? What's going on? Guys? Hello Jerry, Jerry?

1868
01:29:37,080 --> 01:29:39,000
Speaker 1: I do I do? Just want to say my name

1869
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:42,759
Speaker 1: is Jerry, like j R E D Like the drawers. Jared,

1870
01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:47,280
Speaker 1: I'm sorry our crack producer. I make fun of the

1871
01:29:47,320 --> 01:29:52,320
Speaker 1: producer can kill you in a variety of ways. Hello Jared.

1872
01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:56,560
Speaker 1: My question I'll pick this off air. UM, but I

1873
01:29:56,680 --> 01:29:58,920
Speaker 1: wrote this in maybe like once before. I'm not sure

1874
01:29:58,920 --> 01:30:02,320
Speaker 1: if your guys saw it. Um, but recently me and

1875
01:30:02,360 --> 01:30:05,960
Speaker 1: my friend have started a podcast, and um, I would

1876
01:30:06,040 --> 01:30:11,080
Speaker 1: I want to know where y'all stand on how y'all game? Podcasters?

1877
01:30:11,120 --> 01:30:13,880
Speaker 1: For the team. And I also want to know if

1878
01:30:13,960 --> 01:30:16,840
Speaker 1: y'a wouldn't mind given my episode to listen, just to

1879
01:30:17,000 --> 01:30:18,760
Speaker 1: you know, get my name out the well, why don't

1880
01:30:18,760 --> 01:30:23,160
Speaker 1: you give out the name of your podcast? Okay, um

1881
01:30:23,320 --> 01:30:25,599
Speaker 1: for for the listeners and y'all guys, it's called After

1882
01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:33,519
Speaker 1: the Huddle Um on Spotify. Okay, um French with us Okay,

1883
01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:37,360
Speaker 1: after the Huddle, Yes, after the Huddle, it's on Spotify.

1884
01:30:37,439 --> 01:30:40,600
Speaker 1: It's got um a football logo on a on a

1885
01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:43,599
Speaker 1: field kind of like a cartoonish logo looking type thing.

1886
01:30:44,080 --> 01:30:46,439
Speaker 1: But that's that was just my idea, you know, I

1887
01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:47,960
Speaker 1: want to get my name out there. So I was

1888
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:50,600
Speaker 1: hoping maybe y'all can you know, broadcasting out there, and

1889
01:30:50,640 --> 01:30:52,400
Speaker 1: maybe y'all get it, give it a little. We might.

1890
01:30:52,439 --> 01:30:55,599
Speaker 1: I doubt it, but we might. You know. It's all good,

1891
01:30:55,960 --> 01:30:59,280
Speaker 1: all busy people, Yeah, thank you, busy, good luck, and

1892
01:30:59,320 --> 01:31:01,320
Speaker 1: that as far as we got it. Like we were

1893
01:31:01,320 --> 01:31:04,479
Speaker 1: doing this podcast before they were podcasts, like the world

1894
01:31:04,600 --> 01:31:07,800
Speaker 1: podcast wasn't invented when we started invented it, I think. Yeah. Well,

1895
01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:09,320
Speaker 1: I mean the funny part is Evan and I probably

1896
01:31:09,320 --> 01:31:14,479
Speaker 1: did quite a Evan I probably did a few podcasts together.

1897
01:31:14,560 --> 01:31:16,519
Speaker 1: Over the years and like the twenty tens, and I

1898
01:31:16,680 --> 01:31:19,120
Speaker 1: remember going on with you in Barth and uh, you know,

1899
01:31:19,160 --> 01:31:22,160
Speaker 1: discovering blog talk radio, which made it really easy to

1900
01:31:22,240 --> 01:31:24,280
Speaker 1: just kind of start a podcast and be able to

1901
01:31:24,720 --> 01:31:27,479
Speaker 1: as a guy named Eric Eric friends that I did.

1902
01:31:29,280 --> 01:31:31,599
Speaker 1: He came in one time here and let him host,

1903
01:31:31,640 --> 01:31:34,360
Speaker 1: and I was like, remoted in from California, but I

1904
01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:36,040
Speaker 1: was all, I was all bummed out. He's like, oh

1905
01:31:36,080 --> 01:31:38,000
Speaker 1: my gosh, this is amazing. Patriost dot com is gonna

1906
01:31:38,040 --> 01:31:39,400
Speaker 1: let me come in and host the show. And I'm like,

1907
01:31:39,400 --> 01:31:42,200
Speaker 1: I'm in California. Um, but you know, hey, good luck

1908
01:31:42,200 --> 01:31:44,120
Speaker 1: with your podcast. I mean it's uh, it's fun. I

1909
01:31:44,120 --> 01:31:45,880
Speaker 1: mean you've seen Claire do it. I mean Claire has

1910
01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:48,960
Speaker 1: been you know, God in a few years, she's ramped

1911
01:31:49,040 --> 01:31:51,360
Speaker 1: up her podcasting and blogging and all that stuff. So

1912
01:31:51,400 --> 01:31:53,360
Speaker 1: it's just I think you got to do it and

1913
01:31:53,400 --> 01:31:57,360
Speaker 1: be consistent and stacked day after day after atter episode

1914
01:31:57,400 --> 01:32:00,120
Speaker 1: after and get better and reach out to people and

1915
01:32:00,200 --> 01:32:02,960
Speaker 1: beat the bushes and uh, you know, not to not

1916
01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:04,760
Speaker 1: to pat ourselves on the back. But that's how Mike

1917
01:32:04,800 --> 01:32:07,960
Speaker 1: and I started in this industry, was just taking our

1918
01:32:07,960 --> 01:32:12,679
Speaker 1: own initiative with a laptop and a podcast and yeah, hello,

1919
01:32:12,920 --> 01:32:14,800
Speaker 1: mister Baddard, would you be willing to come? I mean,

1920
01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:18,320
Speaker 1: I mean, Chris Price. I tell you that all the time,

1921
01:32:18,439 --> 01:32:20,280
Speaker 1: Like I get asked to do those things, and I

1922
01:32:20,320 --> 01:32:22,599
Speaker 1: almost always say, yeah, I've been I've been on clears

1923
01:32:22,600 --> 01:32:25,559
Speaker 1: a couple of times, Like why would you know when

1924
01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:28,360
Speaker 1: I speak at a lot of those school kind of things,

1925
01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:32,799
Speaker 1: career things, you know, John Rooks college class And that's

1926
01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:35,960
Speaker 1: like for me, that's like one hundred percent. That the

1927
01:32:36,040 --> 01:32:38,559
Speaker 1: difference of when I was growing up and trying to

1928
01:32:38,600 --> 01:32:41,519
Speaker 1: do this and figuring it out, like they just didn't

1929
01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:44,200
Speaker 1: have these avenues. Now, if you don't have anybody that

1930
01:32:44,240 --> 01:32:46,760
Speaker 1: wants to hire you or is interested and knows about you,

1931
01:32:47,400 --> 01:32:49,519
Speaker 1: just do it. Yep, you can do it on your

1932
01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:52,759
Speaker 1: own now, yeah, you know, it's not just like doing

1933
01:32:52,800 --> 01:32:55,720
Speaker 1: play by play into a spoon right washing Again, you

1934
01:32:55,720 --> 01:32:57,960
Speaker 1: can create. You can make your own make your own tape,

1935
01:32:58,320 --> 01:33:01,680
Speaker 1: create your own destination, do a podcast like Mike and

1936
01:33:01,720 --> 01:33:04,360
Speaker 1: Evan did. And you know, I was fortunate enough to

1937
01:33:04,360 --> 01:33:06,479
Speaker 1: be on the ground floor of the original podcast with Fred,

1938
01:33:06,680 --> 01:33:09,760
Speaker 1: so I just wrote Fred's Coaketails. But you guys did

1939
01:33:09,800 --> 01:33:12,880
Speaker 1: it the hard way, and and that's like any that's

1940
01:33:12,920 --> 01:33:14,639
Speaker 1: that would be my number one advice if you want

1941
01:33:14,640 --> 01:33:18,000
Speaker 1: to do something like this, just do it. Yeah, get

1942
01:33:18,040 --> 01:33:20,080
Speaker 1: better at it by reps. Yeah, that's and that's the

1943
01:33:20,080 --> 01:33:22,040
Speaker 1: big things, like especially in sports, where I feel like

1944
01:33:22,040 --> 01:33:24,479
Speaker 1: you need a voice and you need an angle to things,

1945
01:33:24,520 --> 01:33:26,240
Speaker 1: and you need something that's gonna, you know, make you

1946
01:33:26,280 --> 01:33:28,800
Speaker 1: stick out, Like mine was the stupid hoodie database, which

1947
01:33:28,880 --> 01:33:30,240
Speaker 1: just was like, you know, I was bored at work

1948
01:33:30,240 --> 01:33:32,280
Speaker 1: one day and start of putting together you just you

1949
01:33:32,320 --> 01:33:34,960
Speaker 1: need to find kind of an angle, um that makes

1950
01:33:35,000 --> 01:33:39,040
Speaker 1: you stand out a little bit. Mikes and Puerto Rico. Hey, Mike, Mike,

1951
01:33:39,040 --> 01:33:40,000
Speaker 1: do you want to move up here and be on

1952
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:46,880
Speaker 1: the show permanently? Therebody do it today? Great? Okay, So sorry, Fred,

1953
01:33:46,920 --> 01:33:50,160
Speaker 1: I don't have a bone or coming on you, but

1954
01:33:50,240 --> 01:33:52,280
Speaker 1: I do have one for Evan to have one for

1955
01:33:52,479 --> 01:33:57,080
Speaker 1: you and one for fall, So I'll start on the positive.

1956
01:33:57,520 --> 01:34:04,080
Speaker 1: I um duce perfectly laid out my issue with max

1957
01:34:04,720 --> 01:34:06,800
Speaker 1: Um as far as his approach, the way that he

1958
01:34:06,880 --> 01:34:10,479
Speaker 1: handles himself on the field, and just in his general

1959
01:34:10,600 --> 01:34:13,880
Speaker 1: attitude and he is on the field, and I think

1960
01:34:14,000 --> 01:34:17,120
Speaker 1: given that the team takes your cue, the cues from

1961
01:34:17,120 --> 01:34:20,879
Speaker 1: the quarterback. I wonder if that's the that's the difference

1962
01:34:20,880 --> 01:34:24,960
Speaker 1: on how the team just reacts and plays on the field,

1963
01:34:25,400 --> 01:34:28,800
Speaker 1: is because of the way that Mac conducts himself, you know,

1964
01:34:28,920 --> 01:34:32,479
Speaker 1: going the extra yard, just doing the dumb stuff, dumb

1965
01:34:32,520 --> 01:34:36,840
Speaker 1: mistakes and just petulant and looking for that extra yard,

1966
01:34:37,439 --> 01:34:40,439
Speaker 1: just by throwing himself on the ground and playing possum

1967
01:34:40,560 --> 01:34:46,519
Speaker 1: for for like a second, um going on to um Paul.

1968
01:34:48,479 --> 01:34:50,639
Speaker 1: I guess that's the reason why we need the video,

1969
01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:53,519
Speaker 1: because I don't know what his face was when he, uh,

1970
01:34:53,560 --> 01:34:57,200
Speaker 1: if he gives to look yesterday when he said somebody

1971
01:34:57,240 --> 01:35:02,160
Speaker 1: mentioned about where was the team be without Robonda Stevenson

1972
01:35:02,479 --> 01:35:05,280
Speaker 1: and he said, oh, they still be four and four.

1973
01:35:05,800 --> 01:35:08,360
Speaker 1: So he's saying he's the best player on the field.

1974
01:35:08,720 --> 01:35:10,559
Speaker 1: But at the same time, if he wouldn't say he's

1975
01:35:10,560 --> 01:35:13,080
Speaker 1: the best player on the Patriots, I think he's the

1976
01:35:13,120 --> 01:35:17,320
Speaker 1: Patriots best players. Yeah. I've said that, like in the

1977
01:35:17,360 --> 01:35:21,040
Speaker 1: summer is when I said that, But even till now,

1978
01:35:21,080 --> 01:35:23,519
Speaker 1: he's proven to be the most the best player on

1979
01:35:23,560 --> 01:35:28,000
Speaker 1: the Patriots, right, I think he's the Patriots best player, yes, yeah,

1980
01:35:28,080 --> 01:35:30,200
Speaker 1: and he's the best Patriots. He's the best player on

1981
01:35:30,240 --> 01:35:32,639
Speaker 1: the Patriots. Yeah, that's what I think. Yeah, but that's

1982
01:35:32,640 --> 01:35:34,680
Speaker 1: just my opinion. That doesn't mean he's best player. That

1983
01:35:34,720 --> 01:35:38,439
Speaker 1: doesn't mean I'm right. Yeah, is he the best player?

1984
01:35:38,560 --> 01:35:40,920
Speaker 1: But but in Europe? Yes, I said that in the summer.

1985
01:35:41,160 --> 01:35:42,840
Speaker 1: If he wasn't on the field, even though he's the

1986
01:35:42,840 --> 01:35:45,680
Speaker 1: best player on the Patriots, the record would still be

1987
01:35:45,680 --> 01:35:49,520
Speaker 1: four or four. Like, is this a running backs for me? Yes? Yeah,

1988
01:35:49,560 --> 01:35:52,200
Speaker 1: I hear you, Paul thanks running back to a loose change. Yeah,

1989
01:35:52,920 --> 01:35:55,120
Speaker 1: I think that you can kick five field goals even

1990
01:35:55,240 --> 01:35:58,679
Speaker 1: without the best player on the team being a running back. Yeah,

1991
01:35:58,720 --> 01:36:02,280
Speaker 1: I do. But would you be imps Yes, because you

1992
01:36:02,320 --> 01:36:04,559
Speaker 1: took over in field goal range four and up four

1993
01:36:04,560 --> 01:36:07,080
Speaker 1: of those five times. Yes, to be fair, Rmandre does

1994
01:36:07,200 --> 01:36:09,880
Speaker 1: matter like running backs don't matter. Again, I didn't. I

1995
01:36:09,920 --> 01:36:12,880
Speaker 1: didn't say it, just you weren't here yesterday. I didn't

1996
01:36:12,920 --> 01:36:15,360
Speaker 1: say he doesn't matter, which is what someone said i'd said. Yeah,

1997
01:36:15,439 --> 01:36:18,120
Speaker 1: someone claims that I said he's irrelevant. He's not irrelevant.

1998
01:36:18,200 --> 01:36:20,280
Speaker 1: He's a really good player, and I think he's the

1999
01:36:20,320 --> 01:36:23,880
Speaker 1: team's best player. And I think it's inarguable that at

2000
01:36:23,920 --> 01:36:26,840
Speaker 1: worst he's second best behind Judeon. Like I don't really

2001
01:36:26,840 --> 01:36:28,800
Speaker 1: think there's another argument to be made for someone else.

2002
01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:32,600
Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean I think he's irrelevant, which is

2003
01:36:32,600 --> 01:36:37,080
Speaker 1: what someone credited me with saying yesterday. But I can

2004
01:36:37,080 --> 01:36:39,200
Speaker 1: see where people say, well, if they're four and four

2005
01:36:39,240 --> 01:36:41,519
Speaker 1: without him, on four and four with him, how relevant?

2006
01:36:41,600 --> 01:36:43,679
Speaker 1: Because it's a running back and I think if Damian

2007
01:36:43,720 --> 01:36:47,320
Speaker 1: Harris played, it wouldn't be as good. He wouldn't have

2008
01:36:47,479 --> 01:36:49,760
Speaker 1: like seven catches and and you know like that, because

2009
01:36:49,800 --> 01:36:52,000
Speaker 1: I don't think he's as good, uh, you know, out

2010
01:36:52,040 --> 01:36:55,640
Speaker 1: of the backfield and whatnot as a receiver. But I

2011
01:36:55,680 --> 01:36:58,519
Speaker 1: didn't like, for example, that one play where the thirty

2012
01:36:58,520 --> 01:37:01,160
Speaker 1: five yard run was special, absolutely right, And if that

2013
01:37:01,240 --> 01:37:03,680
Speaker 1: doesn't happen, like how more quickly does I think they

2014
01:37:03,680 --> 01:37:05,559
Speaker 1: still would have I still think they would have won

2015
01:37:05,600 --> 01:37:07,519
Speaker 1: the game. Like I don't think it's a stretch. I

2016
01:37:07,560 --> 01:37:09,240
Speaker 1: don't know. I like, I don't think the Jets would

2017
01:37:09,240 --> 01:37:12,439
Speaker 1: have scored their last touchdown if they didn't if the

2018
01:37:12,439 --> 01:37:15,439
Speaker 1: Patriots needed to stop them. What does that make any sense?

2019
01:37:15,439 --> 01:37:17,760
Speaker 1: What about like in the game where Harris got hurt

2020
01:37:17,800 --> 01:37:20,960
Speaker 1: and Stevenson ran from and they won twenty nine nothing.

2021
01:37:21,040 --> 01:37:22,759
Speaker 1: I think they probably would have won if Peter Strong

2022
01:37:22,800 --> 01:37:25,720
Speaker 1: had to fill in it like twenty nine nothing, I

2023
01:37:25,760 --> 01:37:29,480
Speaker 1: think they can handle. That sounds like he's not very relevant.

2024
01:37:29,640 --> 01:37:34,000
Speaker 1: I mean, do you understand every because you speaking And

2025
01:37:34,040 --> 01:37:35,599
Speaker 1: I think on the surface, if people want to look

2026
01:37:35,600 --> 01:37:37,120
Speaker 1: out at the surface and say, if you took their

2027
01:37:37,120 --> 01:37:38,880
Speaker 1: best player away, they'd be exactly the same, And I

2028
01:37:38,880 --> 01:37:40,840
Speaker 1: think that's what people like response. But I think Paul

2029
01:37:40,880 --> 01:37:43,559
Speaker 1: is laying out the nuance and I think and I'm

2030
01:37:43,600 --> 01:37:45,639
Speaker 1: also trying to illustrate the fact of why I think

2031
01:37:45,640 --> 01:37:48,000
Speaker 1: they're a mediocre team because the best player is a

2032
01:37:48,080 --> 01:37:51,800
Speaker 1: running back, and running backs like Christian McCaffrey, who I

2033
01:37:51,800 --> 01:37:56,040
Speaker 1: think is a dynamite player, don't really move the needle

2034
01:37:56,080 --> 01:37:58,760
Speaker 1: in terms of wins and losses. I don't know help

2035
01:37:58,880 --> 01:38:01,680
Speaker 1: forty nine ers last week? Did he? Yeah? Yeah, I know.

2036
01:38:01,720 --> 01:38:03,559
Speaker 1: They wouldn't have been able to win that game. Now

2037
01:38:03,600 --> 01:38:05,519
Speaker 1: they would only have won seven in a row against

2038
01:38:05,520 --> 01:38:07,519
Speaker 1: the Rams. Now they want eight in a row. This

2039
01:38:07,600 --> 01:38:10,559
Speaker 1: is one that like, you're weirdly on the analytics side

2040
01:38:10,560 --> 01:38:13,880
Speaker 1: on this one. You realize that, right, but you but

2041
01:38:13,920 --> 01:38:15,640
Speaker 1: you also have to know me well enough to know

2042
01:38:15,960 --> 01:38:17,880
Speaker 1: it has nothing to do with it. That's why I said,

2043
01:38:18,400 --> 01:38:23,960
Speaker 1: I mean you're coming over to the nerds. I just

2044
01:38:24,040 --> 01:38:29,920
Speaker 1: want to be like them that class. Yes, he's up.

2045
01:38:32,240 --> 01:38:36,760
Speaker 1: There are so many ways to make Paul angry. This

2046
01:38:36,960 --> 01:38:44,120
Speaker 1: is the opposite of anger on the on the nuanced

2047
01:38:44,160 --> 01:38:47,360
Speaker 1: front of things, I actually wanted to um Evan and

2048
01:38:47,400 --> 01:38:49,160
Speaker 1: this is not I'm not trying to be like super critical.

2049
01:38:49,160 --> 01:38:50,800
Speaker 1: I just want to understand your take on Mack a

2050
01:38:50,800 --> 01:38:54,439
Speaker 1: little bit better, because there are two things that seemed inconsistent. Um.

2051
01:38:54,680 --> 01:38:57,479
Speaker 1: Like a couple of weeks ago, I think during the

2052
01:38:57,600 --> 01:38:59,920
Speaker 1: when when when Paul and Fred were having that about

2053
01:39:00,080 --> 01:39:02,800
Speaker 1: Max ego thing, you came up with the I thought

2054
01:39:02,840 --> 01:39:06,320
Speaker 1: pretty cool point that the new look pages oftense it

2055
01:39:06,400 --> 01:39:09,040
Speaker 1: looked like it was almost in a way accommodating Max

2056
01:39:09,080 --> 01:39:12,439
Speaker 1: because it was like Alabama based in some aspects. But

2057
01:39:12,520 --> 01:39:15,640
Speaker 1: then last week it sounded like you were saying this

2058
01:39:15,640 --> 01:39:20,200
Speaker 1: this this this offensive offensive play calling just doesn't seem

2059
01:39:20,400 --> 01:39:23,080
Speaker 1: like appropriate for Max style of play. So maybe I'm

2060
01:39:23,080 --> 01:39:26,200
Speaker 1: a moron and don't understand the nuance there. But what

2061
01:39:26,280 --> 01:39:30,840
Speaker 1: am I not getting? What's the best? Sometimes what's best

2062
01:39:30,840 --> 01:39:33,280
Speaker 1: for you is not what you actually want it to be,

2063
01:39:33,520 --> 01:39:36,440
Speaker 1: right Like I you know, I think that Brussels Spross.

2064
01:39:36,880 --> 01:39:40,120
Speaker 1: I think that sometimes we look at things in life

2065
01:39:40,120 --> 01:39:42,400
Speaker 1: and we're like, oh, like I really wish I Like,

2066
01:39:42,479 --> 01:39:44,280
Speaker 1: for me, I really wish I could be six foot two.

2067
01:39:44,360 --> 01:39:46,880
Speaker 1: But I'm just not six foot two, right, So I

2068
01:39:46,920 --> 01:39:49,600
Speaker 1: think Mac wishes, No, I'm not. This is just me

2069
01:39:49,680 --> 01:39:54,639
Speaker 1: talking and to this Collars point here in this case,

2070
01:39:55,080 --> 01:39:58,640
Speaker 1: I think Mac wants to be a downfield passer. I

2071
01:39:58,680 --> 01:40:00,639
Speaker 1: think he wants to be more a and I think

2072
01:40:01,320 --> 01:40:03,479
Speaker 1: in some ways they want them to be more aggressive too.

2073
01:40:03,840 --> 01:40:09,360
Speaker 1: But I think due to their personnel and also his

2074
01:40:09,520 --> 01:40:13,760
Speaker 1: physical tools, it is probably not the best style of

2075
01:40:13,840 --> 01:40:16,360
Speaker 1: play for him in the NFL. At Alabama, when you

2076
01:40:16,360 --> 01:40:18,880
Speaker 1: have great protection and you have Davante Smith and you

2077
01:40:18,920 --> 01:40:21,240
Speaker 1: have Jalen Waddle, and you have John Metchi and you

2078
01:40:21,280 --> 01:40:24,080
Speaker 1: have receivers up to Wazoo that beat everybody one on

2079
01:40:24,160 --> 01:40:27,960
Speaker 1: one across the field, then you can be a downfield

2080
01:40:28,040 --> 01:40:31,479
Speaker 1: vertical passing system, even with a quarterback that doesn't have

2081
01:40:31,479 --> 01:40:33,559
Speaker 1: a Josh Allen like arm. But when you get to

2082
01:40:33,600 --> 01:40:36,720
Speaker 1: this stage, at this level, you can't get where I

2083
01:40:36,720 --> 01:40:38,120
Speaker 1: get where youre coming from. That. I just thought it

2084
01:40:38,200 --> 01:40:40,479
Speaker 1: sounded like initially a couple of weeks ago, it's und

2085
01:40:40,479 --> 01:40:43,280
Speaker 1: of like your your sympathies were kind of aligned with Mac,

2086
01:40:43,360 --> 01:40:45,880
Speaker 1: Like you were saying, this is what Max Mac want.

2087
01:40:46,240 --> 01:40:50,200
Speaker 1: And last week it sound like your sympathies were you know,

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01:40:50,400 --> 01:40:52,960
Speaker 1: you were just kind of focusing on how the coaches

2089
01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:54,960
Speaker 1: and play calling is not doing right by Max. So

2090
01:40:55,520 --> 01:40:57,719
Speaker 1: like right now, because I think it's on the coaches

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01:40:58,200 --> 01:41:00,760
Speaker 1: to say to Mac if this is the case, it's

2092
01:41:00,800 --> 01:41:04,439
Speaker 1: on the coaches to stay to Mac, hey, that's not

2093
01:41:04,560 --> 01:41:06,800
Speaker 1: how you're going to win in this league. You are

2094
01:41:06,840 --> 01:41:09,400
Speaker 1: not going to win in this league throwing the ball

2095
01:41:09,520 --> 01:41:13,200
Speaker 1: deep on twenty percent of your drop backs and leading

2096
01:41:13,240 --> 01:41:16,519
Speaker 1: the league in deep passing rate. That's not Mac Jones.

2097
01:41:16,880 --> 01:41:19,720
Speaker 1: And whether he wants to be that or not, they

2098
01:41:19,760 --> 01:41:21,240
Speaker 1: have to coach that out of him. And I think

2099
01:41:21,280 --> 01:41:24,439
Speaker 1: some guys like Zach Wilson, the Jets have to coach

2100
01:41:24,520 --> 01:41:26,640
Speaker 1: the mistakes out of them, right, and and the and

2101
01:41:26,680 --> 01:41:32,000
Speaker 1: the turnovers and the boneheaded you're saying, the offensive. The

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01:41:32,040 --> 01:41:36,439
Speaker 1: coaching staff basically spent the entire summer developing an offense

2103
01:41:36,479 --> 01:41:38,760
Speaker 1: that they thought was wrong for Mac in order to

2104
01:41:38,800 --> 01:41:41,320
Speaker 1: make him happy. But now they're trying to tell him, now,

2105
01:41:41,400 --> 01:41:44,200
Speaker 1: you see, we shouldn't we shouldn't have been playing them now.

2106
01:41:44,240 --> 01:41:47,200
Speaker 1: It's not that data, it's not that deep. I just

2107
01:41:47,240 --> 01:41:50,720
Speaker 1: think that they were trying to be more explosive as

2108
01:41:50,760 --> 01:41:54,600
Speaker 1: an offense. It hasn't really been super successful because of

2109
01:41:54,680 --> 01:41:57,559
Speaker 1: reasons that aren't just Mac Jones. It's also because they

2110
01:41:57,560 --> 01:41:59,720
Speaker 1: don't have the protection right now to do it. I mean,

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01:42:00,040 --> 01:42:02,240
Speaker 1: on Sunday against the Jets, they try to dial up

2112
01:42:02,240 --> 01:42:04,960
Speaker 1: a double move to Kendrick Bourne, Marcus Cannon gets beat,

2113
01:42:05,120 --> 01:42:06,680
Speaker 1: the ball gets tipped up in the air and it's

2114
01:42:06,680 --> 01:42:09,880
Speaker 1: an interception. Is that mac Jones's fault? Not necessarily, But

2115
01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:11,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play spe side of the street here a

2116
01:42:11,680 --> 01:42:13,760
Speaker 1: little bit. I just don't think that. Okay, maybe I'm

2117
01:42:13,760 --> 01:42:16,320
Speaker 1: not getting my point across track, but I'm gonna, you know,

2118
01:42:17,240 --> 01:42:19,000
Speaker 1: speak for speed a little bit, and speed you can

2119
01:42:19,040 --> 01:42:22,240
Speaker 1: tell me. But so we all heard these stories about

2120
01:42:22,880 --> 01:42:25,599
Speaker 1: Mac in the offseason, asking why why are we making

2121
01:42:25,640 --> 01:42:29,479
Speaker 1: these changes? Why are we doing this? Well, that's to

2122
01:42:29,600 --> 01:42:32,679
Speaker 1: me sound if that's true that Mac kind of liked

2123
01:42:32,760 --> 01:42:36,040
Speaker 1: last year's offense, and last year's offense wasn't a vertical

2124
01:42:36,200 --> 01:42:39,640
Speaker 1: down the field offense, So to me, that sounds like

2125
01:42:39,680 --> 01:42:42,559
Speaker 1: Mac wanted a continuation of that, he didn't want the

2126
01:42:42,640 --> 01:42:46,040
Speaker 1: Alabama down the field, So something we can I don't

2127
01:42:46,080 --> 01:42:48,000
Speaker 1: care who's in the wrong, like it honestly doesn't matter

2128
01:42:48,080 --> 01:42:50,400
Speaker 1: to me. It's just the bottom line is that's not

2129
01:42:50,479 --> 01:42:53,200
Speaker 1: suited for him. It's not working right, Like the vertical

2130
01:42:53,240 --> 01:42:55,040
Speaker 1: stuff is not working when he holds the ball for

2131
01:42:55,120 --> 01:42:57,439
Speaker 1: more than two and a half seconds, which in turn

2132
01:42:57,520 --> 01:42:59,479
Speaker 1: suggests that they're trying to get guys up the field

2133
01:42:59,479 --> 01:43:02,000
Speaker 1: for him to hit deep shots down the field. He

2134
01:43:02,080 --> 01:43:05,320
Speaker 1: has seven turnover worthy plays out of nine of his

2135
01:43:05,400 --> 01:43:09,120
Speaker 1: turnover worthy plays, he's one to five touchdown interception ratio

2136
01:43:09,160 --> 01:43:12,240
Speaker 1: when he holds the football. He is not doing well

2137
01:43:12,320 --> 01:43:16,360
Speaker 1: in that climate because a I think that there is

2138
01:43:16,400 --> 01:43:18,960
Speaker 1: some physical limitations there about how he can hit the

2139
01:43:18,960 --> 01:43:22,280
Speaker 1: tighter window throws down the field. But more importantly probably

2140
01:43:22,360 --> 01:43:24,559
Speaker 1: is the protection and the issues that they're having up

2141
01:43:24,600 --> 01:43:27,599
Speaker 1: front with getting guys up the field. So I'll ultimately

2142
01:43:27,640 --> 01:43:29,559
Speaker 1: bottom line, I don't care who wants what or what

2143
01:43:29,760 --> 01:43:32,280
Speaker 1: is what or anything. It really doesn't matter to me.

2144
01:43:32,520 --> 01:43:34,559
Speaker 1: But now that we've recognized that this is where like

2145
01:43:34,560 --> 01:43:36,559
Speaker 1: the all twenty two side of things goes well with

2146
01:43:36,800 --> 01:43:39,360
Speaker 1: Paul's like overall global enough because I think Paul's makes

2147
01:43:39,360 --> 01:43:44,519
Speaker 1: me an important point here. Confused may you may you

2148
01:43:44,560 --> 01:43:47,559
Speaker 1: may You've been you have routinely now been making this

2149
01:43:47,640 --> 01:43:50,680
Speaker 1: really good point that the Patriots need to try out

2150
01:43:50,680 --> 01:43:52,760
Speaker 1: at different offense this year if they're going to be

2151
01:43:52,800 --> 01:43:55,040
Speaker 1: competing with the cream of the crop? Is there is

2152
01:43:55,040 --> 01:43:56,600
Speaker 1: there a middle I don't know. They have to do

2153
01:43:56,680 --> 01:43:58,439
Speaker 1: whatever they do, they have to do it really well.

2154
01:43:58,520 --> 01:44:00,800
Speaker 1: Ye see, I have just been saying that. I can

2155
01:44:00,920 --> 01:44:04,280
Speaker 1: understand if their thought process was what Speed just said, Like,

2156
01:44:04,320 --> 01:44:07,360
Speaker 1: if their thought process was that offense can only take

2157
01:44:07,439 --> 01:44:09,559
Speaker 1: us so far, and if we want to be a player,

2158
01:44:09,760 --> 01:44:12,559
Speaker 1: we need to do some different things offensively. I could

2159
01:44:12,640 --> 01:44:14,240
Speaker 1: understand if they looked at it that way, because I

2160
01:44:14,240 --> 01:44:17,639
Speaker 1: think their offense as constructed is limited, and I think

2161
01:44:17,640 --> 01:44:19,800
Speaker 1: you saw some of that on Sunday. Okay, but there's

2162
01:44:19,800 --> 01:44:21,599
Speaker 1: a middle ground, right, And that's been my whole thing

2163
01:44:21,600 --> 01:44:24,479
Speaker 1: all along. It's not about all or one thing. Last year,

2164
01:44:24,520 --> 01:44:26,920
Speaker 1: Mac Jones is eleven percent deep passing right this year

2165
01:44:26,960 --> 01:44:30,160
Speaker 1: he's over twenty percent, So can we be fifteen? Like,

2166
01:44:30,240 --> 01:44:32,839
Speaker 1: can we do a little bit more of that? Sometimes?

2167
01:44:33,080 --> 01:44:34,840
Speaker 1: Throw them into the this is where, like you know,

2168
01:44:34,880 --> 01:44:37,000
Speaker 1: when you were laughing at me about you know, I

2169
01:44:37,120 --> 01:44:39,160
Speaker 1: want to be an analytics guy, but this is why

2170
01:44:39,320 --> 01:44:41,800
Speaker 1: I get I pushed back a little on the analytics,

2171
01:44:41,840 --> 01:44:45,000
Speaker 1: Like I think they've played, Like he's played five games,

2172
01:44:45,400 --> 01:44:47,160
Speaker 1: and we just look at this and like, you know,

2173
01:44:47,320 --> 01:44:49,800
Speaker 1: can we get like like percentages don't mean anything? Like

2174
01:44:50,040 --> 01:44:52,160
Speaker 1: Jack Jones, I think his percentage? Why's the best cornerback

2175
01:44:52,160 --> 01:44:54,439
Speaker 1: in football? Does anyone think he's the best cornerback on

2176
01:44:54,439 --> 01:44:56,439
Speaker 1: the Patriots, let alone football? I'm not going to go

2177
01:44:56,479 --> 01:44:58,960
Speaker 1: down that, Okay, So, like percentages, to me, in a

2178
01:44:59,080 --> 01:45:02,080
Speaker 1: very small sample size can be blown out of proportion,

2179
01:45:02,160 --> 01:45:04,360
Speaker 1: and I think some of that has been true with

2180
01:45:04,439 --> 01:45:07,080
Speaker 1: mac Jones. He doesn't have to throw the ball, like

2181
01:45:08,040 --> 01:45:10,600
Speaker 1: when you throw the ball downfield, like just give me

2182
01:45:10,640 --> 01:45:12,800
Speaker 1: a rough estimate how many times they've thrown the ball

2183
01:45:12,880 --> 01:45:17,439
Speaker 1: down like over twenty yards about twenty zappy too, or

2184
01:45:17,520 --> 01:45:21,040
Speaker 1: just just with Macy. Okay, so you throw like four

2185
01:45:21,120 --> 01:45:25,559
Speaker 1: picks and that dramatically hurts the number, but maybe the

2186
01:45:25,640 --> 01:45:28,479
Speaker 1: number would be six picks with like eighty throws down

2187
01:45:28,520 --> 01:45:30,599
Speaker 1: field and all of a sudden, the percentage isn't out

2188
01:45:30,600 --> 01:45:34,519
Speaker 1: of whack. But right now, early on Evans one thousand percent,

2189
01:45:34,640 --> 01:45:37,760
Speaker 1: right hasn't worked. The offense has it's it's looked. I

2190
01:45:37,800 --> 01:45:40,320
Speaker 1: think the word you always use as clunky, like, it

2191
01:45:40,400 --> 01:45:43,840
Speaker 1: kind of looks clunky. You you do, I like the clunky, Yeah,

2192
01:45:43,880 --> 01:45:46,680
Speaker 1: you like the clunky clunky like, so I get it.

2193
01:45:46,720 --> 01:45:49,800
Speaker 1: But I just think that sometimes I just look at

2194
01:45:49,840 --> 01:45:53,560
Speaker 1: it that I know what, right, I don't care. I

2195
01:45:53,760 --> 01:45:56,960
Speaker 1: think it is. I don't care when they started planning

2196
01:45:57,000 --> 01:45:58,400
Speaker 1: on it, if it was in the spring, or if

2197
01:45:58,400 --> 01:46:00,320
Speaker 1: it was the summer, if it was now. I think

2198
01:46:00,320 --> 01:46:02,880
Speaker 1: a lot of times Bill Belichick talks about it. You know,

2199
01:46:03,439 --> 01:46:05,400
Speaker 1: you don't know who you are, and I and I

2200
01:46:05,400 --> 01:46:07,439
Speaker 1: think in a lot of ways, the first half of

2201
01:46:07,479 --> 01:46:09,479
Speaker 1: the season is learning what you are good at as

2202
01:46:09,479 --> 01:46:12,880
Speaker 1: an And to that point, I heard something recently out

2203
01:46:12,880 --> 01:46:16,440
Speaker 1: of Vegas that they're saying that the problem with McDaniels

2204
01:46:16,840 --> 01:46:20,240
Speaker 1: is that he's trying to fit his team. He's trying

2205
01:46:20,240 --> 01:46:23,679
Speaker 1: to fit his team to his offense rather than creating

2206
01:46:23,720 --> 01:46:26,439
Speaker 1: an offense that's best for his players. And I wonder,

2207
01:46:27,680 --> 01:46:30,840
Speaker 1: and I wonder now that he's gone, if if the

2208
01:46:31,040 --> 01:46:33,760
Speaker 1: existing coaching staff said last year, we were trying to

2209
01:46:33,800 --> 01:46:36,559
Speaker 1: fit our players into what Josh wanted to do, We're

2210
01:46:36,560 --> 01:46:39,000
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna change that around, and we're gonna look

2211
01:46:39,040 --> 01:46:40,920
Speaker 1: at our players and do what's best for them. And

2212
01:46:40,960 --> 01:46:44,519
Speaker 1: maybe they're just wrong, you know, but right, but I wonder, like, like,

2213
01:46:44,680 --> 01:46:47,120
Speaker 1: we have no idea what's going on. That's the problem

2214
01:46:47,400 --> 01:46:51,080
Speaker 1: we're speculating. But I wonder if like what they thought

2215
01:46:51,240 --> 01:46:53,280
Speaker 1: was best for this team coming out of the summer

2216
01:46:53,560 --> 01:46:58,960
Speaker 1: was just wrong, like or or they just can't execute decision. Well,

2217
01:46:59,800 --> 01:47:03,000
Speaker 1: I'm that's besides the point two. But it's this ship

2218
01:47:03,120 --> 01:47:05,880
Speaker 1: is sailed, okay, Ma Patricius the quordina. I think the

2219
01:47:05,920 --> 01:47:08,160
Speaker 1: one thing that really like stands out to me with

2220
01:47:08,280 --> 01:47:12,759
Speaker 1: Mac is that, ultimately what the responsibility of the coaching

2221
01:47:12,760 --> 01:47:16,920
Speaker 1: staff for the quarterback specifically is to make life as

2222
01:47:17,000 --> 01:47:20,439
Speaker 1: easy on the quarterback as possible because it's a very

2223
01:47:20,520 --> 01:47:23,880
Speaker 1: very difficult position to play. That's why this Shanahan system

2224
01:47:24,080 --> 01:47:26,439
Speaker 1: has been so successful and why so many teams have

2225
01:47:26,479 --> 01:47:29,840
Speaker 1: adopted it is because it's an inherently easy system to

2226
01:47:29,920 --> 01:47:32,240
Speaker 1: play in as a quarterback. And that's the idea is

2227
01:47:32,240 --> 01:47:34,680
Speaker 1: to make it easy as possible. Mike makes fun of

2228
01:47:34,720 --> 01:47:38,679
Speaker 1: me when I get excited. A second Mike gets excited.

2229
01:47:38,800 --> 01:47:41,000
Speaker 1: It gets makes fun of me when I get excited

2230
01:47:41,040 --> 01:47:43,519
Speaker 1: about the RPOs right yesterday, texting me is like a man,

2231
01:47:43,560 --> 01:47:45,840
Speaker 1: you're really losing it over the RPOs. The reason why

2232
01:47:45,840 --> 01:47:48,400
Speaker 1: I get excited about the RPOs is twofold one, the

2233
01:47:48,479 --> 01:47:51,400
Speaker 1: quarterback likes them, okay, and anything the quarterback likes should

2234
01:47:51,439 --> 01:47:53,920
Speaker 1: be in the playbook. And number two. They are easy

2235
01:47:54,120 --> 01:47:56,439
Speaker 1: to execute when you know how to do it. Like

2236
01:47:56,520 --> 01:47:58,920
Speaker 1: when you it's easy yards. Okay, you get a too

2237
01:47:59,000 --> 01:48:01,320
Speaker 1: high look and they're three guys over the screen. You

2238
01:48:01,439 --> 01:48:04,280
Speaker 1: run the football seven yards. Second and four becomes first

2239
01:48:04,280 --> 01:48:06,160
Speaker 1: and ten. When you have the numbers on the screen,

2240
01:48:06,240 --> 01:48:09,080
Speaker 1: you throw the screen nine yards of Jakobe Myers. Here

2241
01:48:09,080 --> 01:48:12,040
Speaker 1: we go first and second down, easy yardage. That's what

2242
01:48:12,080 --> 01:48:15,280
Speaker 1: I'm looking for too many times early on in the season,

2243
01:48:15,439 --> 01:48:17,720
Speaker 1: and even at times in this Jets game. I'll go

2244
01:48:17,760 --> 01:48:22,320
Speaker 1: back to the interception that actually counted. Okay, Why in

2245
01:48:22,360 --> 01:48:25,559
Speaker 1: the world, when we know that we can't block them,

2246
01:48:26,120 --> 01:48:28,320
Speaker 1: why are we dialing up a double move on third

2247
01:48:28,320 --> 01:48:30,840
Speaker 1: and nine? And why are we asking Mac Jones to

2248
01:48:30,880 --> 01:48:34,080
Speaker 1: throw the ball forty yards down the field on third

2249
01:48:34,120 --> 01:48:38,160
Speaker 1: and nine when we know that we cannot block them.

2250
01:48:38,520 --> 01:48:41,240
Speaker 1: That is it makes no sense. And look can I

2251
01:48:41,360 --> 01:48:45,440
Speaker 1: they just offer like a like a completely hypothetical possibility

2252
01:48:46,360 --> 01:48:49,120
Speaker 1: because I think at that stage in the game they

2253
01:48:49,160 --> 01:48:52,400
Speaker 1: had converted a number of third downs. How did they

2254
01:48:52,439 --> 01:48:56,599
Speaker 1: convert them though? With short throws underneath that were odds

2255
01:48:56,640 --> 01:49:01,000
Speaker 1: after the catch? So why file up a double move?

2256
01:49:01,320 --> 01:49:04,040
Speaker 1: Because the last four times we were in like a

2257
01:49:04,080 --> 01:49:07,160
Speaker 1: third and five plus, we threw the ball two yards

2258
01:49:07,240 --> 01:49:10,160
Speaker 1: and Jonathan Smith, you know, made a nice play and

2259
01:49:10,200 --> 01:49:12,760
Speaker 1: got a first down. And Jacoby Myers made a nice

2260
01:49:12,800 --> 01:49:15,000
Speaker 1: play and caught a block from Hunter Henrying and got

2261
01:49:15,000 --> 01:49:17,559
Speaker 1: a first down. So this time we're gonna make him

2262
01:49:17,600 --> 01:49:19,320
Speaker 1: think we're gonna do that again, and we're gonna try

2263
01:49:19,360 --> 01:49:21,360
Speaker 1: a double move and we're gonna catch it dumb because

2264
01:49:21,360 --> 01:49:24,320
Speaker 1: they couldn't block him and they chip, they check it

2265
01:49:24,560 --> 01:49:26,599
Speaker 1: and get what. They did everything they tried. They tried

2266
01:49:26,640 --> 01:49:28,200
Speaker 1: to do everything they could. But I'm just saying, like

2267
01:49:28,240 --> 01:49:30,599
Speaker 1: you say, why would you do that? Because I'm trying

2268
01:49:30,640 --> 01:49:34,240
Speaker 1: to make plays. Okay, I'm trying to see if I'm

2269
01:49:34,600 --> 01:49:36,600
Speaker 1: setting up a play. What about the third down to

2270
01:49:36,680 --> 01:49:38,920
Speaker 1: Jacoby where they threw it to the crosser and they

2271
01:49:39,000 --> 01:49:42,080
Speaker 1: just it's just right past the sticks. So football outsiders

2272
01:49:42,120 --> 01:49:43,960
Speaker 1: keeps track of the stat that they call Alex. It's

2273
01:49:43,960 --> 01:49:46,479
Speaker 1: after Alex Smith, Okay, not Alex Barthur's in the other room.

2274
01:49:47,120 --> 01:49:50,200
Speaker 1: The checkdowns, it's out of Alex Smith. Third doubt, are

2275
01:49:50,200 --> 01:49:52,719
Speaker 1: you throwing past the sticks or not? On third doubt?

2276
01:49:53,040 --> 01:49:55,040
Speaker 1: The first three starts of the year for Mac Jones,

2277
01:49:55,080 --> 01:49:57,519
Speaker 1: weeks one through three, he was number one in the

2278
01:49:57,600 --> 01:50:00,360
Speaker 1: league and throwing the ball past the sticks on first down.

2279
01:50:00,400 --> 01:50:03,840
Speaker 1: He they're throwing the ball on average five yards past

2280
01:50:03,920 --> 01:50:07,519
Speaker 1: the sticks on third down. And this game against the Jets,

2281
01:50:07,720 --> 01:50:10,400
Speaker 1: they were negative two, so they went from five yards

2282
01:50:10,400 --> 01:50:14,880
Speaker 1: past the sticks to two yards in front of the sticks. Now, statistically,

2283
01:50:14,960 --> 01:50:17,719
Speaker 1: over the course of a season, it bears out that

2284
01:50:18,120 --> 01:50:20,479
Speaker 1: throwing past the sticks is better. Like that's obvious, right,

2285
01:50:20,760 --> 01:50:22,880
Speaker 1: But I think at the same time we're gonna go

2286
01:50:22,920 --> 01:50:25,760
Speaker 1: back to is what are they good at? What are

2287
01:50:25,760 --> 01:50:27,760
Speaker 1: they good at as an offense? That to me is

2288
01:50:27,800 --> 01:50:30,160
Speaker 1: where we've all find common ground. And throwing the ball

2289
01:50:30,240 --> 01:50:33,080
Speaker 1: forty yards down the field when Marcus Cannon is playing

2290
01:50:33,160 --> 01:50:36,680
Speaker 1: right tackle and they're destroying you up front is not

2291
01:50:36,760 --> 01:50:38,599
Speaker 1: what you are good at. What you were good at

2292
01:50:38,680 --> 01:50:40,800
Speaker 1: was the Jacoby Myers crossed put any of this on

2293
01:50:40,880 --> 01:50:42,840
Speaker 1: Mac don't put any of this on that. I mean, like,

2294
01:50:43,200 --> 01:50:45,800
Speaker 1: I think he needs things easier than than an NFL

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01:50:46,000 --> 01:50:49,519
Speaker 1: quarterback shouldn't need. That's kind of my eyes. No, I

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01:50:49,560 --> 01:50:53,200
Speaker 1: think you're totally wrong because I think what you what

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01:50:53,280 --> 01:50:57,920
Speaker 1: you remember is that NFL quarterbacks are Tom Brady. Okay,

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01:50:57,960 --> 01:51:00,920
Speaker 1: and Tom Brady you could call whatever you want, And

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01:51:02,000 --> 01:51:06,000
Speaker 1: how's that not fair? Who's who's an NFL quarterback? Like?

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01:51:06,040 --> 01:51:07,559
Speaker 1: Do you think do you think do you think he's

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01:51:07,600 --> 01:51:09,800
Speaker 1: Tom Brady's the only quarterback that I'm judging Mac Jones

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01:51:09,800 --> 01:51:12,400
Speaker 1: in related to. I mean, he's the only quarterback that

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01:51:12,439 --> 01:51:15,639
Speaker 1: you've seen a lot of. Okay, So what do you think?

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01:51:15,760 --> 01:51:17,519
Speaker 1: What do you think Miami? What do you think Miami

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01:51:17,640 --> 01:51:19,880
Speaker 1: is doing with TA right now? What do you think

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01:51:19,920 --> 01:51:22,080
Speaker 1: Miami is doing with TA right now? Do you think

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01:51:22,080 --> 01:51:25,240
Speaker 1: that they're putting all this responsibility on to his shoulders

2308
01:51:25,280 --> 01:51:26,840
Speaker 1: or do you think they're just saying, Hey, you see

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01:51:26,880 --> 01:51:29,320
Speaker 1: that guy Tyree Hill over there, he's really fast, throw

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01:51:29,360 --> 01:51:31,360
Speaker 1: him the football, and we're going to find ways to

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01:51:31,360 --> 01:51:33,680
Speaker 1: get Tyree Hill open, and you're gonna find ways to

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01:51:33,680 --> 01:51:36,240
Speaker 1: get him the football. Do you think Twa Tagavaloa has

2313
01:51:36,280 --> 01:51:39,200
Speaker 1: all of a sudden overnight just become this great downfield

2314
01:51:39,200 --> 01:51:40,920
Speaker 1: pastor like now, all of a sudden, he's got this

2315
01:51:41,000 --> 01:51:42,960
Speaker 1: cannon arm and he can throw the ball down the

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01:51:43,000 --> 01:51:45,679
Speaker 1: field and he's really really good at throwing the ball deep?

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01:51:46,000 --> 01:51:49,200
Speaker 1: Or do you think that the Dolphins traded for Tyree Hill?

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01:51:49,880 --> 01:51:52,519
Speaker 1: So this is how you think Mac would look with

2319
01:51:52,560 --> 01:51:53,840
Speaker 1: Tyrie Hill? Do you think it would look the same

2320
01:51:53,840 --> 01:51:55,439
Speaker 1: as the same if you're not going to get an

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01:51:55,479 --> 01:51:57,400
Speaker 1: answer that you want, but I totally agree with you,

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01:51:57,680 --> 01:51:59,680
Speaker 1: it wouldn't look as good. How would you think that

2323
01:51:59,720 --> 01:52:02,519
Speaker 1: you that you know, you guys, come on, you guys

2324
01:52:02,520 --> 01:52:04,599
Speaker 1: think that it wouldn't look as good as it does

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01:52:04,680 --> 01:52:07,840
Speaker 1: right now? And I don't, okay, But let's just are

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01:52:07,840 --> 01:52:09,760
Speaker 1: you saying that because of Ma Patricia. I don't think

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01:52:09,800 --> 01:52:12,519
Speaker 1: he has the arm I think, don't. I don't think

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01:52:12,520 --> 01:52:16,439
Speaker 1: he throws with as much anticipation there was one last year.

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01:52:17,479 --> 01:52:19,639
Speaker 1: And you think two is throwing the seam through two

2330
01:52:19,760 --> 01:52:22,280
Speaker 1: is throwing deep over routes to Tyree Hill, who's got

2331
01:52:22,320 --> 01:52:24,919
Speaker 1: five yards of separation, And you mean, I know he sucks.

2332
01:52:24,960 --> 01:52:26,680
Speaker 1: I know he's never lost to the Patriots, and I

2333
01:52:26,720 --> 01:52:29,639
Speaker 1: know he's like nineteen and ninety I know he sucks.

2334
01:52:29,680 --> 01:52:32,360
Speaker 1: I know he had those games with Tyreek Hill too.

2335
01:52:32,680 --> 01:52:35,960
Speaker 1: I know he's number one of the league Patriots fans

2336
01:52:36,280 --> 01:52:38,599
Speaker 1: is how bad too? It is? And by the way,

2337
01:52:38,760 --> 01:52:40,880
Speaker 1: go back four years and he was better than him

2338
01:52:40,920 --> 01:52:43,360
Speaker 1: in college too, But not saying he's bad. Didn't say

2339
01:52:43,360 --> 01:52:45,040
Speaker 1: it was bad. I didn't say it was I don't

2340
01:52:45,040 --> 01:52:47,040
Speaker 1: think it would look as good as you think that

2341
01:52:47,240 --> 01:52:50,280
Speaker 1: it would look as good. I'm sorry, that's what I feel.

2342
01:52:50,439 --> 01:52:52,360
Speaker 1: There's no way of knowing it would it look better.

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01:52:53,200 --> 01:52:54,720
Speaker 1: I don't think it would look as good if you

2344
01:52:54,760 --> 01:52:57,599
Speaker 1: have a guy like Waddle and Ta I mean Hill

2345
01:52:57,640 --> 01:53:00,600
Speaker 1: on your team, the offense wouldn't look better. Unbelieving, I

2346
01:53:00,640 --> 01:53:02,640
Speaker 1: don't think Mac would look as good as Toua has

2347
01:53:02,720 --> 01:53:05,400
Speaker 1: looked with those guys. That's the question. I didn't ask

2348
01:53:05,439 --> 01:53:08,400
Speaker 1: what the Patriots offense would be better with Tyree Hill

2349
01:53:08,439 --> 01:53:12,479
Speaker 1: and Jalen Waddle? Yes, yeah, absolutely, Jalen Waddle And you

2350
01:53:12,560 --> 01:53:17,839
Speaker 1: want to substitute Waddle and Hill for Born in Parker,

2351
01:53:18,160 --> 01:53:20,360
Speaker 1: the Patriots offense would look better and who's getting in there?

2352
01:53:20,400 --> 01:53:21,760
Speaker 1: But it wouldn't look as good as it looks in

2353
01:53:21,800 --> 01:53:23,920
Speaker 1: Miami with Ta. Wow? Why the show has been able

2354
01:53:23,960 --> 01:53:25,680
Speaker 1: to go on forever, because you can come up with

2355
01:53:25,800 --> 01:53:30,880
Speaker 1: endless hypotheticals, disagree about them right correct, and never and

2356
01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:33,880
Speaker 1: by the way, never have an answer. Yeah, because it's

2357
01:53:34,240 --> 01:53:36,640
Speaker 1: it's impossible. It's an impossible subjective thing. Do you know

2358
01:53:36,680 --> 01:53:38,920
Speaker 1: who the number one rated passer in the league right

2359
01:53:38,960 --> 01:53:41,040
Speaker 1: now is? Do you think he's the best quarterback in

2360
01:53:41,080 --> 01:53:42,840
Speaker 1: the league. I don't think he's the best quarterback in

2361
01:53:42,880 --> 01:53:44,719
Speaker 1: the league. That's not what the question was. The question

2362
01:53:44,800 --> 01:53:46,160
Speaker 1: was how do I think it would look with Mac

2363
01:53:46,240 --> 01:53:48,120
Speaker 1: Jones doing it? I don't think it would look as good.

2364
01:53:48,520 --> 01:53:51,320
Speaker 1: I think you're wrong. But that's okay, Like we we

2365
01:53:51,600 --> 01:53:53,200
Speaker 1: can look at the same thing and not see it

2366
01:53:53,240 --> 01:53:55,280
Speaker 1: the same way, like Fred and not even doing it

2367
01:53:55,320 --> 01:53:57,120
Speaker 1: for twenty three No, I'm not saying it's a bad thing.

2368
01:53:57,160 --> 01:53:59,559
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I just think I think the Mac

2369
01:53:59,600 --> 01:54:02,720
Speaker 1: disc or gotten out of control, honestly, But this is

2370
01:54:02,720 --> 01:54:06,759
Speaker 1: not about Mac discourse. I think TOA is largely considered

2371
01:54:06,800 --> 01:54:10,680
Speaker 1: to be an abject stiff in this town. I think

2372
01:54:10,720 --> 01:54:13,879
Speaker 1: people think too us. Are you letting that cloud your judgment?

2373
01:54:13,920 --> 01:54:16,920
Speaker 1: What other people? I'm watching and I'm seeing a guy

2374
01:54:17,240 --> 01:54:19,720
Speaker 1: who somehow found a way to win and now has

2375
01:54:19,760 --> 01:54:22,400
Speaker 1: weapons and is excelling. But and you couldn't say the

2376
01:54:22,439 --> 01:54:25,760
Speaker 1: same about Mac. You've been telling me he has Wait

2377
01:54:25,800 --> 01:54:28,400
Speaker 1: a minute, wait, you couldn't imagine the same thing would

2378
01:54:28,400 --> 01:54:30,519
Speaker 1: happen for mac Ife based on the way I'm playing,

2379
01:54:30,520 --> 01:54:32,520
Speaker 1: I don't think Mac played as well as TOA before

2380
01:54:32,560 --> 01:54:35,640
Speaker 1: he got the weapons. Everybody said that he sucked. When

2381
01:54:35,640 --> 01:54:37,840
Speaker 1: you get weapons and you get an offensive coordinator that

2382
01:54:37,960 --> 01:54:41,919
Speaker 1: knows how to design plays, the quarterback plays better. Imagine

2383
01:54:41,960 --> 01:54:45,520
Speaker 1: that we'll see shocking. I mean we'll see. Well, we

2384
01:54:45,600 --> 01:54:48,160
Speaker 1: can't see because no, someday he'll he'll have these and

2385
01:54:48,200 --> 01:54:50,080
Speaker 1: he'll run out of excuse. To me, right now, we're

2386
01:54:50,120 --> 01:54:52,400
Speaker 1: kind of in limbo. You've been telling me if they

2387
01:54:52,440 --> 01:54:56,880
Speaker 1: have the pieces, that's the only good, because they're not.

2388
01:54:57,160 --> 01:55:02,320
Speaker 1: So it's not excuses, it's just explaining why. I don't

2389
01:55:02,320 --> 01:55:04,400
Speaker 1: know if Mac on his own would be a top

2390
01:55:04,440 --> 01:55:07,400
Speaker 1: five quarterback, Okay, I don't. I don't think that necessarily.

2391
01:55:07,440 --> 01:55:09,560
Speaker 1: I think that he's an average NFL talent. I think

2392
01:55:09,560 --> 01:55:11,400
Speaker 1: he's Derek Carr. I think he's Kirk Cousins. I think

2393
01:55:11,400 --> 01:55:14,280
Speaker 1: he's right in that category. Okay, But the reason why

2394
01:55:14,280 --> 01:55:16,680
Speaker 1: he's twenty fifth in the league in EPA and PFF

2395
01:55:16,800 --> 01:55:19,120
Speaker 1: has him as the second worst quarterback in the league.

2396
01:55:19,680 --> 01:55:22,120
Speaker 1: Is because of things out of his control that are

2397
01:55:22,160 --> 01:55:24,920
Speaker 1: not relative to him as a quarterback. Because last year

2398
01:55:25,120 --> 01:55:27,520
Speaker 1: he wasn't that when he had a better coordinator and

2399
01:55:27,600 --> 01:55:29,840
Speaker 1: he had people around him that were playing well. So

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01:55:29,920 --> 01:55:31,640
Speaker 1: I don't think that it's just now. I think there's

2401
01:55:31,680 --> 01:55:34,480
Speaker 1: any chance that teams have sort of watched him now

2402
01:55:34,560 --> 01:55:38,720
Speaker 1: for twenty five games and sort of better understanding at

2403
01:55:39,000 --> 01:55:41,760
Speaker 1: him all of the evidence that we have in the NFL,

2404
01:55:42,080 --> 01:55:44,480
Speaker 1: And it's not just two I just used him as

2405
01:55:44,520 --> 01:55:47,600
Speaker 1: an example. We can go to Aaron Rodgers, who is

2406
01:55:47,640 --> 01:55:51,920
Speaker 1: throwing to nobody in Green Bay and looks washed with

2407
01:55:51,960 --> 01:55:55,040
Speaker 1: the Packers because he's got no receivers. Last year he

2408
01:55:55,080 --> 01:55:57,720
Speaker 1: won the MVP because he had DeVante Adams on his team.

2409
01:55:58,040 --> 01:56:00,960
Speaker 1: So I think we can go across the tired. I mean,

2410
01:56:01,000 --> 01:56:04,000
Speaker 1: that's a relevant comp Aaron Rodgers. It's not about comping

2411
01:56:04,040 --> 01:56:06,040
Speaker 1: Mac toa but if he if he can look bad,

2412
01:56:06,120 --> 01:56:09,360
Speaker 1: then an have you watched any Green Bay games? Yeah?

2413
01:56:09,400 --> 01:56:11,400
Speaker 1: What do you think the problem with Green Bay's offenses?

2414
01:56:11,560 --> 01:56:13,880
Speaker 1: They don't have weapons. I think it's Aaron Rodgers doesn't

2415
01:56:13,920 --> 01:56:17,200
Speaker 1: give a crap because he's playing as if he does

2416
01:56:17,280 --> 01:56:20,520
Speaker 1: not care one thing. He did nothing all off season.

2417
01:56:20,840 --> 01:56:23,680
Speaker 1: He did nothing, but bitch, he got his money and

2418
01:56:23,720 --> 01:56:26,480
Speaker 1: he just said whatever I mean, did I mean, there's

2419
01:56:26,480 --> 01:56:28,720
Speaker 1: stretches of that, but like I've seen lately with him

2420
01:56:28,760 --> 01:56:31,280
Speaker 1: making actually more of an effort to show that he cares.

2421
01:56:31,880 --> 01:56:34,880
Speaker 1: I think he calls out his teammates. I think Aaron

2422
01:56:34,920 --> 01:56:37,560
Speaker 1: Rodgers the same thing that twenty nineteen Brady was In

2423
01:56:37,640 --> 01:56:40,800
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, Brady certainly wasn't washed, he goes. I don't

2424
01:56:40,800 --> 01:56:42,960
Speaker 1: think that Aaron Rodgers is washed. I don't think he cared.

2425
01:56:42,960 --> 01:56:45,440
Speaker 1: But but okay, but I don't think twenty nineteen Brady cared,

2426
01:56:46,160 --> 01:56:47,920
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, every single time he got

2427
01:56:47,960 --> 01:56:50,360
Speaker 1: up to the podium after they beat the Eagles in Philadelphia.

2428
01:56:50,440 --> 01:56:52,000
Speaker 1: I think he's a miserable guy in the world. I

2429
01:56:52,000 --> 01:56:53,840
Speaker 1: think he cared plenty well. I think that's why he

2430
01:56:53,880 --> 01:56:56,360
Speaker 1: looks if you don't care, if he could call out

2431
01:56:56,360 --> 01:56:59,640
Speaker 1: your teammates, I think Brady did that. But he's telling

2432
01:56:59,680 --> 01:57:01,520
Speaker 1: everybody it ain't my fault. No. But but if he

2433
01:57:01,560 --> 01:57:04,600
Speaker 1: didn't care, would he bother to call his teammates? Yes,

2434
01:57:04,600 --> 01:57:06,120
Speaker 1: because he wants to make sure no one thinks it's

2435
01:57:06,120 --> 01:57:08,640
Speaker 1: his fault because he cares. No, he cares about what

2436
01:57:08,680 --> 01:57:11,440
Speaker 1: people think of him. Yes, yeah, you're right right, he does.

2437
01:57:11,600 --> 01:57:14,000
Speaker 1: We never want to say he doesn't care. I meant

2438
01:57:14,040 --> 01:57:19,160
Speaker 1: about losing. He cares about what people think about him. Uh.

2439
01:57:19,360 --> 01:57:23,800
Speaker 1: Final call for the final? Uh. And Todd's in North Carolina.

2440
01:57:23,880 --> 01:57:28,080
Speaker 1: What's up, Todd? I'm afraid to even ask my question

2441
01:57:28,120 --> 01:57:31,040
Speaker 1: with what just happened? Okay? Anyway, all right? Like Paul,

2442
01:57:31,120 --> 01:57:33,560
Speaker 1: what just happened? Ever, didn't I disagreed about something like that?

2443
01:57:33,840 --> 01:57:36,400
Speaker 1: The world didn't end? Fine, it's I love it, it's good,

2444
01:57:36,440 --> 01:57:40,200
Speaker 1: it's I think it's good. Honest discourse. Of course, one

2445
01:57:40,240 --> 01:57:42,520
Speaker 1: person from Paul. I need to know if you're serious

2446
01:57:42,640 --> 01:57:44,840
Speaker 1: or not when you say that you think Bill just

2447
01:57:44,960 --> 01:57:47,640
Speaker 1: believes that he can win without a without a quarterback,

2448
01:57:47,680 --> 01:57:49,480
Speaker 1: and you can put anybody in there and still win.

2449
01:57:49,920 --> 01:57:53,839
Speaker 1: When did I say that that's fell good? No? Actually

2450
01:57:54,240 --> 01:57:58,879
Speaker 1: Paul said that the other day, and I was like, what, okay, whatever,

2451
01:57:59,800 --> 01:58:03,720
Speaker 1: I like, I'm just done with Like, well, I didn't

2452
01:58:03,760 --> 01:58:05,200
Speaker 1: put it in your mouthball you put it all right?

2453
01:58:05,440 --> 01:58:08,000
Speaker 1: What is the point tiew? And now I really am

2454
01:58:08,040 --> 01:58:10,720
Speaker 1: man what is the point? What is your point? Tell

2455
01:58:10,760 --> 01:58:12,560
Speaker 1: me why I'm wrong, like I am every other time

2456
01:58:12,600 --> 01:58:16,440
Speaker 1: you call you're a one trick pony? What what did

2457
01:58:16,440 --> 01:58:18,320
Speaker 1: I What did I do that offended you so much?

2458
01:58:19,080 --> 01:58:22,040
Speaker 1: Actually I was going to agree with you. Why I

2459
01:58:22,080 --> 01:58:24,480
Speaker 1: didn't say it? So you don't agree with me, Well,

2460
01:58:24,480 --> 01:58:27,000
Speaker 1: then I guess I don't. But you know, why are

2461
01:58:27,040 --> 01:58:29,040
Speaker 1: we always looking at all the team and saying, oh,

2462
01:58:29,040 --> 01:58:30,800
Speaker 1: this player doesn't do this, and this players this, and

2463
01:58:30,840 --> 01:58:33,080
Speaker 1: this players this, and we're not taking a look and saying, Okay,

2464
01:58:33,520 --> 01:58:37,800
Speaker 1: it's our team composition, it's our team approach. And it

2465
01:58:37,920 --> 01:58:40,680
Speaker 1: might just, you know, go back to being Bill's problem.

2466
01:58:40,800 --> 01:58:43,680
Speaker 1: Bill's just not got it anymore. Maybe his fastball is

2467
01:58:43,720 --> 01:58:46,520
Speaker 1: just a I don't think it's just you know, for clarity,

2468
01:58:46,600 --> 01:58:48,760
Speaker 1: I may have said things like Bill doesn't feel like

2469
01:58:48,800 --> 01:58:50,600
Speaker 1: he needs to have the best quarterback in the league

2470
01:58:50,600 --> 01:58:53,280
Speaker 1: to win. He feels like he can have an average quarterback.

2471
01:58:53,320 --> 01:58:56,200
Speaker 1: And I may have said something like that, but I

2472
01:58:56,200 --> 01:58:59,360
Speaker 1: didn't say you could win with anybody. Although I will

2473
01:58:59,400 --> 01:59:03,720
Speaker 1: sell you this, if he had his hands on Zach

2474
01:59:03,760 --> 01:59:07,400
Speaker 1: Wilson from the start, they'd be the better chance of

2475
01:59:07,480 --> 01:59:11,120
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson being a star than Yeah, the lack of coaching.

2476
01:59:11,240 --> 01:59:14,440
Speaker 1: Some agree with the guidance he's getting in New York

2477
01:59:14,480 --> 01:59:16,880
Speaker 1: because he's doing the same things wrong today than he

2478
01:59:16,920 --> 01:59:19,720
Speaker 1: did the first day I saw him play. Yeah, all right, Todd,

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