1 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: Ron an Aian. It's kind of funny what's going on 2 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: out there. You know, it's there are no cars first 3 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: of all, all right, and I think you all know 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: that by now there are no cars. You can buy 5 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: a vehicle with heated seats, and then after three months 6 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: your trial period is up. And if you want heated 7 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: seats every morning you have to pay an eight dollar 8 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: subscription figure. 9 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:26,319 Speaker 2: With the. 10 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 1: Car Doctor, I just thought this two thousand and seven 11 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: Lincoln town Car. And I only want to see cars 12 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: with big cards to big trunks. 13 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 3: The metal. 14 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 4: Yeah there you go. 15 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I'd like to be in bubble wrap. Yeah, 16 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:43,919 Speaker 1: I get it. 17 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 2: Welcome to the radio home of ron Ananian, the Car Doctor. 18 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 2: Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car owners the 19 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 2: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 20 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 2: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up. 21 00:00:58,800 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: The phone and call in. 22 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 2: The garage doors. 23 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: Are opening, but I am here to take your calls 24 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: at eighty five five five six oh ninety nine hundred 25 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: and now he running, Hey, Hey, how was your week? 26 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: My week was great. We were busy. He is always 27 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: in the shop and you know, now I get to 28 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 1: be here with you and we get to talk automotive 29 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: and all things automotive and whatever your questions are. You 30 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: can give me a call at eight five five five 31 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: six zero nine nine zero zero. Keep in mind if 32 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: you can't get throwing that phone number, the number is 33 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: twenty four to seven. You can call eight five five 34 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 1: five six zero nine nine zero zero leave a message. 35 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: I am Ron and Andy and the car doctor. I 36 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: want to start off the hour. I want to talk 37 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: to you about diagnostics, specifically diagnosing air conditioning. You know, 38 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: the price to be cold, the price to be cool. 39 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: You know, everybody can be the Fonds right, everybody can 40 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: be cool and dating myself. Someone new contacted the shop 41 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: this week, and you know, it's an interesting conversation to hear. 42 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: Twenty twelve Honda Pilot, the AC's not working. And the 43 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: original conversation was my air conditioning is not working. You know, 44 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: they introduced themselves. It was a good good, good phone 45 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: manners and etiquette. And I'm not not saying anything about that, 46 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 1: but I'm not sure what they were looking for. Which 47 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: is my bigger concern or my bigger quandary. She wanted 48 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 1: it done this week, which we couldn't do. It was 49 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: already midweek when she had called. And you know, most 50 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: repair shops, I think you're going to find, especially now 51 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 1: with the lack of cars out there, most repair shops 52 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: are at least a week to ten days out, some 53 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:41,519 Speaker 1: cases two weeks out, some cases three weeks out. No names, please, 54 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: you know, just repair shops. The good repair shops, the 55 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: better repair shops are busy. It's and I think it 56 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: comes back to that. You know, I've always told you, 57 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: I've always commented about, you know, where's that relationship? Do 58 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: you have that relationship with a repair shop? You know, 59 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: somebody said to me this week. They talked about how 60 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: you never wanted to say anything bad about your doctor, 61 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: your lawyer, or your mechanic, because those are probably the 62 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: three most important relationships you're going to have. And that's 63 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: probably not wrong, you know, it's it's but anyway, it was, 64 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: Can you look at it this week? 65 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 4: No? I can't. 66 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: I can look at it next week. 67 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 4: I can. 68 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: I'll you know, my heart goes out to anybody who 69 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: doesn't have air conditioning, you know, in hot weather, muggy weather, 70 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: and you know I can. I can get a look 71 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: at it next week. I'll squeeze in somewhere, we'll skip lunch, 72 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: we'll do something, we'll move something around. But you know 73 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: that that wasn't it. She wanted it done this week. 74 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: I said, well, then you've got to you know, you 75 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: got to call around see who's out there. And you know, 76 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: if that doesn't work on me back, I'll I'll get 77 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: you in next week. I went back to doing what 78 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: I was doing, which was, you know, three cars at 79 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: once or something, probably, I'm sure. And they called back, 80 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: but i't have a chance to pick up the phone. 81 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: You know, it's tough. You know, we try to limit 82 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: our phone time in the shop because we're busy, and 83 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: we text a lot. We use a texting program and 84 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: it works great. So I had a text conversation with 85 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: her and she wanted to come in next week and 86 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: get the AC diagnosed. And I said, sure, that's fine. 87 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: I can get you in Tuesday or Wednesday. At that time, 88 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: we had we had openings. I had moved a couple 89 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: of things around in anticipation of her calling back. But 90 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: then I felt obligated, and you know, maybe I'm wrong, 91 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: but I think I'm right, you know, like this is 92 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 1: what it's going to cost. You know, we have to diagnose. 93 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 1: We just can't. We're not going to guess what it's 94 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: going to. You know, we're not just going to throw 95 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: parts of the car. Who would you got to be crazy. 96 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: So you know, it's by the time you look at 97 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 1: and AC is probably one of the tougher things to diagnose. 98 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: As I explained to her in the text, I said, 99 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: you know, is it electrical? 100 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 4: Is it? 101 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 1: Is it mechanical? Is it low on charge? Is it 102 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: you know, a computer problem? Is there a fault code 103 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 1: somewhere that's preventing the computer from turning the clutch on? 104 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: So it's it's something else? Is it wiring? You know, 105 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: there's like a lot of options and a lot of possibilities. 106 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 1: So AC to me can be tougher to diagnose than 107 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 1: a check engine light problem in all reality, because there's 108 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: just a lot more to consider and look at. So 109 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: you have to write an estimate, and how do you 110 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: write the estimate? How much refrigerant will a car take? 111 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: You know, is it so you've just you know, there's 112 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: a lot to think about. I don't want to talk 113 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: in terms of dollars because you know, this being a 114 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: national show and you know, dollars. Labor rates are different 115 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: in different parts of the country. I think I need 116 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 1: to talk in terms of time, and I look at 117 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: AC diagnosis as a minimum of an hour and a 118 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 1: half up to two hours to get into certain systems 119 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: and understand how they work and what you need to 120 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: consider as far as fault. So two hours of time, 121 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: a pound of refrigerant and you know, some refriger and oil, 122 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,799 Speaker 1: some service caps, a couple of odds and ends, because 123 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: you know, are we are we looking for a leak? 124 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 1: Are we looking for electrical nothing? Go back over that conversation. 125 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: So you know, the number here in New Jersey comes 126 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: out to about three one hundred and twenty five dollars 127 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 1: to do a diagnosis. Will I need all that time? 128 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. Will I need more time? I don't know. 129 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: I've never seen the car, I don't know what I'm 130 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: up against. And I, you know, I always try to 131 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: come up with a number. I, you know, here's the 132 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 1: reality of it, because I don't want anybody surprised. I 133 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: don't like to have anybody at the counter going, well, 134 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: I don't know it's going to cost that much, or 135 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: sometimes it's I don't know it's going to cost anything 136 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: to diagnose a problem, which is the one that always 137 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 1: boggles my mind. You know, people will go to a 138 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: doctor and have fourteen tests done for a hangnail, and 139 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 1: but I guess that's different, right, insurance is paying. So, 140 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: you know, A long story short, she said, you know, 141 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: let me get back to you. I I've got to 142 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,799 Speaker 1: stop and consider this, and you know, see where we're going. 143 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: I haven't hurt back yet. I don't know where we're going. 144 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: I just know that I'm not looking at it, and 145 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody else is looking at it. And 146 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: I'm wondering to myself, what is she thinking? Is she 147 00:06:55,520 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 1: aware of you know, the price of a diagnosis? And 148 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 1: we talk about that here. How many of you call 149 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: in you've got a problem, You've you've changed three, four, five, 150 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 1: six parts and the car still is broken? And my 151 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: ultimate question is did you test anything? And the answer 152 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: becomes no, which I frankly don't understand. I still don't 153 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: understand that to this day. It's you know, there's certain 154 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: things you've got to test, and look, you can't test everything. 155 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: You've got to get, you know, into the eighty percentile, 156 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: eighty fifth percentile, ninetieth percentile, and then if you can't 157 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: get that last ten percent, all right, that's a calculated guess. 158 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: I'm not going to lie and say I don't. There 159 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: are situations I do. Everybody does you know what's your 160 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: batting average? But to not expect a diagnostic charge, to 161 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: not expect somebody to charge for something such as that, 162 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: I think is impractical. I don't think you're being fair 163 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: to yourself. You're obviously not being fair to the shop. 164 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: But I still come back to why don't you have 165 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: a relationship with a mechanic. You're driving an eleven year 166 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 1: old Honda who's been working on the car up till now. Know, 167 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: all mechanics can't be bad, It's impossible. It just doesn't 168 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: work like that. What is the expectation. We don't go 169 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: to a doctor and expect tests to be done for free. 170 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: We don't have an initial you know, consultator. Well maybe 171 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: we have an initial consultation with a lawyer, but from 172 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: there on we're paying for it. So why are mechanics 173 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: always considered? Yeah, well, just let's tell me what's wrong 174 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: for nothing. And you know that just just doesn't make 175 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: any sense to me. You got to keep in mind 176 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 1: you know air conditioning, and I told her this too 177 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: with regards to a Honda, that generation Honda. That could 178 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: be a bad compressor, that could be a leaking condenser, 179 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: the piece in front of the radiator, which is not 180 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: completely uncommon. Both of those are very high failure items. 181 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: You know, they do have problems with the AC control head, 182 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 1: the piece and the dashboard that you know, the push 183 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: buttons and so forth. And then sometimes it can be simple. 184 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: Sometimes it can be just the AC relay, which Sumi 185 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: Tomo I think is the company. The Sumi Tomo relays 186 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: were the ones that were bad, or maybe they're the replacement, 187 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: but they that generation Honda does have problems with the 188 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 1: AC compressor relay. No an entity, no problem. So you know, 189 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: I think beyond the relationship. If you're not gonna have 190 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: a relationship with a repair shop and you're gonna hop 191 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: scotch around and you're gonna bounce around, and you know 192 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: who you're gonna go to and who you're gonna talk to, 193 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: you've got to have a reasonable expectation because frankly, if 194 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: you get them to do a diagnosis, who are you 195 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: actually helping yourself? Because now you've got something you've got 196 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: something tangible as long as they come back and say, hey, 197 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: mister Smith, this is the bad part. This will fix 198 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: your problem, and you have to hear those words. It 199 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 1: can't be well, we think it's this, this is our 200 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: best guess, that sort of chains of the dynamic, right. 201 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 1: You know, anytime somebody gives you a diagnos it's to 202 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: be expected if you're paying for it. In my opinion, 203 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: you know it's it's going to be Hey, this will 204 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: fix your problem. Those are the words you want to hear. 205 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: And I don't think that's unreasonable on your part, and 206 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: I don't think it's unreasonable on the part of the 207 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: shop to actually have to pay for it. But bottom line, 208 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: air conditioning is tough. Air conditioning is There are a 209 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: lot of things to consider when you're dealing with an 210 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: air conditioning problem, especially on a modern day vehicle, and 211 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: you know, just be aware of that. By the way, 212 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: just because we're speaking of Honda's one of the things 213 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 1: I've noticed, it's gotten to be very common if you're 214 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: driving a late model Honda, not the twelve Pilot that 215 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: I'm talking about here, but a I believe it started 216 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: around model year sixteen or seventeen if you're newer Honda, 217 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 1: Accord or Civic, and I believe CRVS has twelve thirty 218 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: four YF refrigerant, the new style refrigerant, and it stops 219 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: working if the system is empty, if there's a leak 220 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: and they're going to replace the AC condenser, there's a 221 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: pretty good chance that that's under extended warranty from Honda. 222 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: Honda has had its fair share with specific then breaks 223 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: of certain models between sixteen and model year nineteen. I've 224 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: seen it as new as in nineteen, so I'm thinking 225 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: maybe even twenty a three to four year span where 226 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: they're extending the warranty on the compress on the condensers. 227 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: I'm sorry on the condensers, and you know, I think 228 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: they went to a ten year, one hundred and fifty 229 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: thousand mile warranty or something. There's more than a few 230 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: bulletins out there talking about it, so just be aware 231 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: so you're not spending for something that you don't have to, 232 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 1: and if you've already had it done, I believe the 233 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: bulletin points out there's a way to get reimbursed, so 234 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: just be aware of that as well. I'm ronnin Andy 235 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: in the Car Doctor eight five five five six zero 236 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: nine nine zero zero. I'll be back right after this. 237 00:11:56,400 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 4: Don't go away, good time. Ride it on the wall 238 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 4: so you don't forget to call for car advice. Done right. 239 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 4: Eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero. 240 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 4: Now back to raw. 241 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 1: And we are back. Welcome back, Ron Ming the car 242 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 1: doctor here. Eight five five five six zero nine nine 243 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: zero zero. Let's do an email. This one comes to 244 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: us from Lance out of Westbury, New York. Ron. I've 245 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: got a twenty eighteen Toyota Corolla, and I recently had 246 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 1: the battery replaced, and ever since then, the bluetooth connection 247 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: with my car to the phone has been, in his words, 248 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: wonky and not working properly. And I want to know 249 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: if I can disconnect the battery and clear the memory 250 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: and start over again. What sort of complications can I have? 251 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: What sort of problems can I create for myself? I 252 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: don't want to do anything wrong, Lance, Great questions, Lance, 253 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: and you know, big concerns. You also got a PS 254 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: down here. He wants to know what is he looking for? Oh, 255 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: he's looking for a battery booster pack or a jump pack. Yep, 256 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: I got a recommendation for that. We can talk about 257 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: that as well. So let's let's answer his first part 258 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 1: of his question. First, answer the first part of his question. First, yeah, okay, 259 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: we'll do the first part regardless of the car. So 260 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 1: let's talk about bluetooth. What is bluetooth. Bluetooth is just 261 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: another form of a network connection. It's it's a wireless 262 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: connection to connect and tied devices in and you know, 263 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: it's no more, no less. So they put a battery 264 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 1: in your car. It seems strange that now the phone 265 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: doesn't connect as it should. So obviously the simple thing 266 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: to do is, you know, turn the phone off. Don't 267 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: don't reboot it. We want to do a dead boot. 268 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: A dead boot in computer language is where we turn 269 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: the device off completely, you know, so that it powers down. 270 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: Let the device sit there, ten, fifteen, twenty thirty seconds, 271 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: pick a number you want to Let us sit a minute, 272 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: all the better, and then just power it back up 273 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 1: and you know, try it. How does it work. If 274 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: it's still a problem, turn it back off, okay, start 275 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: it back up, or you could even do it from 276 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: where it is and unpair it from your car. All right, 277 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: go into the pairing with the bluetooth. Unpair it from 278 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: the car. And then go back to the car. And yes, 279 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: I would recommend you listen. They already put a battery 280 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: in it and the problem started after that. It sounds 281 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: like they didn't use a memory saver, which is always 282 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: a good idea on a modern car. And I'll talk 283 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: about that a little bit in depth in a minute. 284 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: But you know, go ahead, disconnect both battery cables. If 285 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: you've got a jumper lead handy with a ten on 286 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: one want you know, resistor in it, and you can 287 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: bleed it down and if you don't, you can tie 288 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: the cables together. It's just a little less of a 289 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: shock to have some sort of a resistor in there 290 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: or resistor wire ten on one want and you know, 291 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: bleed the memory down out of the vehicle computer, you know. 292 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: And I'd do that a good five six minutes. Okay, 293 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: longer if you feel like it, but at least five, 294 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: and then hook it up, start it up, and drive it. 295 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: You're going to have to drive it, you know. One 296 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: of the concerns with disconnecting batteries without battery backup in 297 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: there is, you know, are you losing memory somewhere else? 298 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: Are you losing the adaptives? You know, all modern day 299 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: vehicles learn as you drive them. So if you drive it, 300 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: or and your partner drives it, and your kids drive it, 301 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: and somebody else drives it, it can adapt to how 302 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: that person you know, reacts on and off the throttle 303 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: and how they treat the car. Stop, break, accelerate and 304 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: so forth. It's called adaptives. Well, you can train it. 305 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: Just go do your normal couple of miles and that'll 306 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: bring it back and at least give it a starting point. 307 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: There are situations where you want to do it with 308 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: a scan tool, but not on an eighteen Corolla. There's 309 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: nothing there that's that high tech that's going to be 310 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: so life and death that you absolutely have to and 311 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: once you do that, and it probably won't make a difference, 312 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: but it's worth to try. Then you know, install the 313 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: app whatever you're using to try and connect the device 314 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: to the car with the phone and then just reinstall 315 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: and repair okay, you know, re re repair it, you know, 316 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: so that they pair together. The phone sees the car, 317 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: the car sees the phone. If you're still having a problem, 318 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: try pairing a different phone to the car, because what 319 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: you may find is your phone. And I've seen this 320 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: happen to get a software update at the moment the 321 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: battery was disconnected or the morning of when the battery 322 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: was disconnected, And now you find out that the software 323 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: the phone's operating system is under doesn't necessarily work with 324 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: the car as well as it should, because now maybe 325 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: the car needs a software update, all right, and you know, 326 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: try doing a different phone. If that different phone is 327 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: still wonky, then further diagnosis is going to be necessary. 328 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: And you know, you can call me. You can call 329 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: me at that point lands and or shoot me another email. 330 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: We can talk about that further. As far as a 331 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: booster pack, let me just touch on this, you know, 332 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 1: with a DOOS you know, automatic driver Assist and some 333 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: of the other built in systems which require memory, you 334 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: know for them to do. Whoever did this battery replacement 335 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 1: without a booster pack is is dangerous and it's unsafe 336 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: because you can lose some critical settings that you might 337 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:19,919 Speaker 1: have lost here. So this, you know, this is this 338 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 1: is the first step. One of the problems with booster 339 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: packs though, is if you're working on a car with 340 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 1: an electrical draw you know, when you have to disconnect 341 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: everything and check for drain or draw, you know, it 342 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 1: complicates it. So you know, there's some steps and procedures 343 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: that have to be taken, so always try to use 344 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: a booster pack. You know, it's it's it's in your 345 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 1: it's in your favor, to your advantage to have that there. 346 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: So I'm not sorry. Not a booster pack, a memory 347 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: pack to retain vehicle memory. Booster pack the last part 348 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: of the question. Take a look at AutoZone. Get out 349 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: to AutoZone, Get out to their website. Take a look 350 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: at the dural Last eight hundred L a very modern 351 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: version of a boost your pack small LITHEMI on eight 352 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: hundred AM. It can jump start just about everything. It's 353 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 1: a great booster pack. It's got a nice display on it, 354 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 1: and you can get it at your local autos owner. 355 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: You can buy it online. And keep in mind they're 356 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: there for support. They're there if you have any issues 357 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 1: with it. And I think that's a whole lot better 358 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: than getting something out on the Amazon Cloud because there's 359 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 1: no support there and there's nobody to turn to if 360 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: and when there's a problem, And that's what's so great 361 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: about somebody like AutoZone. I'm running any in the car, doctor, 362 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 1: I'll be back right after this. Don't go away, Welcome 363 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: back listeners, ron An Anie in the card doctor. Scan tools, 364 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: you know, such a high priority item in the automotive world, 365 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 1: and we're always talking about it, you and I, and 366 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 1: they're evolving. They're constantly changing. There's constantly a need for 367 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: or a bigger, better, faster, more complete, more thorough scan tool, 368 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: and the evolution continues. You know, we've had our next guest, Tom, 369 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: We've had we've had his company on prior opu's IVS. 370 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: Hugh Atkins is with us. I'll just get right to it. 371 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: Welcome aboard, Hugh, Thank thanks for being here. You know 372 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 1: we've had Opus with us before. But Opus is a 373 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:26,479 Speaker 1: little bit different than a scan tool. They're more than 374 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: a scan tool. They are a support system. It's it's 375 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 1: plug in, it's send data over, it's getting analyzed, looked at, 376 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: you know, factory technicians, you know, engineering support. There's a 377 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: whole lot more to it. And recently Opus has made 378 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 1: some improvements along the lines. Opus was really with mechanical shops, 379 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:50,439 Speaker 1: but now it's with body shops too, right, Hugh, And 380 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: this is where you can jump in, Babe. I know 381 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: I'm sort of my big open but Opus is doing 382 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:57,919 Speaker 1: more now. With body shops and talk a little bit 383 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: about you know, the mechanical part of it. And now 384 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 1: it's evolved into where you're working with body shops as well. 385 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 3: Sure, I mean OPUS has really been about you know, 386 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 3: we do have a scanner certainly, right, the scanner is 387 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 3: the most important thing. It's what you pick up and 388 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 3: you and you realize, hey, what is the state of 389 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 3: this car? Right? But I think what we're about is, 390 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 3: to put it in a nutshell, is knowledge, experience, access 391 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 3: to OE applications and services with them. And that's really 392 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,360 Speaker 3: what a lot of scan that those last things are 393 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 3: not in a lot of scan tools. I don't think 394 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 3: you'll ever get them in scan tools. So you know, 395 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 3: we've been that in vehicle repair for quite a while 396 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 3: and we've come together. We started out as Drew Technologies. 397 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 3: You have a card act, and a card act allows 398 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 3: you to download the OE application use them in your 399 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 3: shop instead of sending that work out. Right, you have 400 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 3: to pay a subscription, but hey, you're getting your profits 401 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 3: and you're using your overheads. 402 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 1: If if I can just stop your second Drew Drew 403 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: Drew Technology, Drew Technology, don't they do do they still 404 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 1: do the OE software? So they're programming the car is 405 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: coming off the assembly lines, not. 406 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 3: Really coming off the assembly lines. But when if you 407 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 3: need to reprogram a vehicle in an independent shop and 408 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 3: also in some dealerships too, by the way, we we 409 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,959 Speaker 3: sell to oe's as well as dealerships. When you need 410 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 3: to reprogram that car, you can download the OE application, 411 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 3: you pay the subscription to the OE. But now you 412 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 3: need somehow to connect. You need a translator to connect 413 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 3: the computer with the vehicle. Gotcha, and you'll you'll hear 414 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 3: the term J twenty five thirty four. That's what language 415 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 3: the computer is speaking to the device, and it's telling 416 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:48,719 Speaker 3: you to say, you know, it's a tell the vehicle 417 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 3: to roll down the window in the can language. And 418 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 3: so it does because it knows all those languages. There's 419 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 3: ninety eleven module languages. And once those module languages, once 420 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 3: those vehicle technology is on the road, it's always going 421 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 3: to be on there. And then there's new technologies yet 422 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 3: coming and that's called pass through and that's really the 423 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 3: core technology of DREW technology. 424 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: So DREW is is kind of like the Microsoft Windows 425 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: of the aftermarket and dealership in some cases programming world 426 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 1: right there, they're the guys that make it happen. It's 427 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: it's their architecture of software and now hardware. 428 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 3: Correct, Yeah, I mean essentially we're a connection between OE 429 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 3: applications and the independent shop. 430 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 1: So what you can what has you know with Opus? 431 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 1: I mean it was first with mechanical shops, but now 432 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: you're branching into body shops. What are you doing with 433 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: the body shops? Now? 434 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 3: Yes, now this is interesting. So when we became Opus, okay, 435 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 3: we got together with some business friends of ours, right, Autologic, 436 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 3: fire Site, and they were technical support, and we had 437 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 3: some ideas about you know, what could we do together? Also, right, 438 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 3: they have type of support, we have hardware. We have 439 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 3: people asking all the time, hey, can you reprogram this 440 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 3: car for us? And we tried it a few times, 441 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 3: and you know, team viewering into someone else's computer. Sometimes 442 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 3: it works and sometimes it doesn't work, and sometimes you 443 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 3: become their technical support you know, computer technical support people. 444 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 3: So we couldn't do that. But basically the we got 445 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 3: together with far Sight Autologic and also a company called 446 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 3: auto Ingenuity because they made scanning software for PCs and 447 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 3: and some others. And so what we're able to do 448 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 3: with that is we're able to share the knowledge of 449 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 3: the opens IVS people. We're also able to connect to 450 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 3: OE applications and if the if a vehicle repair shop 451 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 3: doesn't have time to do that, because sometimes it can 452 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 3: be quite time consuming when you're a deleting an application, 453 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,919 Speaker 3: reinstalling the application in case of an update, going to 454 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 3: get the going to get the OE subscription. A lot 455 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 3: of technicians see that as time I just don't have, 456 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,439 Speaker 3: or time I don't get paid for depending on it. 457 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 3: And you know, there's a lot of shops out there 458 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 3: that have a technician, and a lot of times he's 459 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 3: the owner. He's a technician, he's a service writer, he's 460 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 3: the he's greeting people, and he's keeping the mechanics busy 461 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 3: because they'll have questions every now and then he goes 462 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 3: over and helps them. If he dwells too long on 463 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 3: you know, software installation and stuff like that, all of 464 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 3: a sudden, all these different parts of the shops go down. 465 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 3: But if we can, if we could we if we 466 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 3: had a tool that had a pass through device in 467 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 3: it where we manage the software because we know how 468 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 3: to do that, can we do reprograms for him? Yeah, 469 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 3: you know we can. We just team viewer in it's 470 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 3: our computer, it's our software many times, or it's the 471 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 3: OE software many times, and we can take care of that. 472 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 3: The technician can hand you know, once he's decided this 473 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 3: vehicle needs a reprogramming or a recalibration or whatever, he 474 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 3: can hand the tool over to someone who's not technical. 475 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 3: They just need to make sure the connections are all there, 476 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 3: there's alternate power on the vehicle, et cetera, and do 477 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 3: key cycle has been requested. 478 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: So I guess in the world of in the world 479 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: of body shops. You know, a body shop is going 480 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 1: to see a newer vehicle, generally more so than a 481 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,199 Speaker 1: mechanical shop. Right, mechanical shop is going to see that 482 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: vehicle after it falls out a warranty. The body shop 483 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: is going to see it. Could that vehicle could be 484 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: six weeks old, it had an accident and it has 485 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: to be repaired, and there's going. 486 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:41,360 Speaker 3: To be away a story about that. 487 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's a there's going to be a computer. 488 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: There's gonna be a computer or two that probably has 489 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: to be programmed and fleshed and initialized and and and 490 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: that's where opus now comes in. That's your new step 491 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 1: towards body shops correct, correct. 492 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 3: And you know, and you know a body shop's history, 493 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 3: there was a day when you can see, yep, that's 494 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,360 Speaker 3: a dent, and when you're repaired it, they are artisans, right, 495 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 3: They that they did the mechanical stuff too, right, because 496 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 3: obviously you're replating bumpers, you're replacing radiators, but you're also 497 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 3: doing paint and body work. However, nowadays you've got you've 498 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 3: got cameras, radar, light ar, and you're also working on 499 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 3: safety systems, so you're working on restraints, airbags, a B 500 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 3: S lane, departure, break by wire, all sorts of stuff 501 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 3: where it is pretty darn high tech. Also, you have 502 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 3: to remember some of these shops, almost all of the shops, 503 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 3: they they're not technician rich, they're mechanic rich, right, So, 504 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 3: and that's because you know that that has roots in 505 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 3: the insurance is really the normal payer. They have one 506 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 3: rate for the mechanic and it's a mechanics rate, not 507 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 3: a technician rate. So you know that's important. Also the 508 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:59,679 Speaker 3: insurance company rate you the body shop on speed and 509 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 3: come and those people with higher speed and fewer comebacks 510 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 3: get more business. You know, it's not like your vehicle 511 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 3: repair where you have a relationship. You trust this guy. 512 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 3: He's always fixed your car, so you always go back 513 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 3: to him. It's a very different game there. 514 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, it has to be fixed, right, we don't you know, 515 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: it's it's ever so much more. The vehicle has to 516 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: be fixed, and people really want one stop shopping. I 517 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: think the automotive public, the motoring public, is starting to 518 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 1: realize the technology is involved, judging by the questions I get, hey, Ron, 519 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: can you program this? Hey Ron, can you program that? 520 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 1: I have an opus. I can program anything, you know, 521 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 1: and that's the beauty of it. And now you're saying 522 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: body shops are going to have access to this as well, 523 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: which is is huge, right yeah. 524 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 3: And they need it bad because they're working on these 525 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 3: safety systems that are very high tech. They don't have 526 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 3: as many technicians and you know they they you know 527 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 3: I said earlier, the speed at which they're repairing the 528 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 3: vehicle is really important to them. So they're kind of 529 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 3: a production environment vehicle repair. You have one tech, one vehicle, 530 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 3: one day, it gets done. And in body shops or 531 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 3: collision shops, you have this guy, you know, he's the 532 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 3: he greets them and maybe he's the estimator, and then 533 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 3: you have another person and won't want the estimator. They're 534 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 3: doing insurance work and this person over here has that 535 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 3: has that data and they start ordering parts and you know, 536 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 3: it goes on and on. It is a very production style. 537 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 3: So to take a car and make it leave the 538 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 3: facility for a while where it may have to set 539 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,120 Speaker 3: a few days, well that's not good because the insurance 540 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 3: is going to look down on me because someone else 541 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 3: was busy. But you know, it's all very statistics driving, because. 542 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: Not only that, can the dealership that you ship the 543 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: car off to, can they get the programming it one day, 544 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: two day, three days a week, two weeks out? And 545 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: then the person's in a rental car longer and it 546 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: drives the cost up and whole another conversation out, Hey, Hugh, 547 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: let's pull over and take a pause. When we come back, 548 00:28:58,280 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: I want to talk a little bit. Maybe you can 549 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: give us a peak. So what's the next evolution of Opus? 550 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: Where do you see it going? The whole concept of 551 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: scan and support and technology as it is, you know, 552 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 1: is there more coming down the line? As systems evolve? 553 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: How does opus evolve too? So we're here with Hugh 554 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: Atkins of Opus iv S. I'm running Indie in the 555 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: Card Doctor. We'll both be back right after this. Don't 556 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: go away, Hey, we're back ronning any and the Card 557 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: Doctor here with Hugh Atkins of Opus Opus I v S. 558 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: Here real quick because we've got just a couple of 559 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: minutes in this segment. The future right where is the 560 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: future for Opus? We're talking scan tools and then you 561 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: know where does ados the automatic drivers says systems figure 562 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: in or are you guys able to calibrate that over 563 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: the phone and what's the story there? 564 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 3: We can, it's through the tool and over the phone. 565 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 3: So you know part of it is having the OE 566 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 3: tool in the device and we can operate on that 567 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 3: on behalf of the the body shop. Now there's different types. 568 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 3: So we have just the calibrations and sometimes that's all 569 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 3: you need to do. Sometimes you have a calibration and 570 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 3: then you have to advise on targets that is how 571 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 3: to use them, where to get them, or how to 572 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 3: make them sometimes and we have and some that are 573 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 3: calibration and also a drive cycle. This is where they 574 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 3: would audit that the vehicle automatically learns. And we do 575 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 3: have experts people like the IVSA sixty. Intact, we call 576 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 3: them I vs. One eight and they are experts on adas. 577 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 3: And we have a guy who knows FCA, aidas and 578 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 3: another one who does Nissan adas, et cetera, et cetera. 579 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 3: So by way of the vent, the call goes to 580 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 3: the right guy. He has his knowledge and experience and 581 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 3: he works with you to be sure and calibrate that 582 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 3: vehicle properly. 583 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: Do you see the day where AIDS is all going 584 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: to become self calibrating, where the targets are going to 585 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: go away and it's just going to be a question 586 00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: of driving the vehicle in a drive cycle. Do you 587 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: think that's got a possibility because the targets have to 588 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: be a pain in the neck, right. 589 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 3: Well, you know that's like you know, once the vehicle 590 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 3: is on the road, it's on the road. You never 591 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 3: it never really comes off the road. You still always 592 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 3: have that. And even though technology does march on, oh 593 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 3: ease will use the same module over and over because 594 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 3: they don't want to redesign a module, right right, So, yeah, 595 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 3: I think you're always going to have some amount of targets. 596 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 3: Now as technology goes yeah, they'll start there'll be a 597 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 3: calibration of a dry cycle, so it automatically learns. But 598 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 3: I don't think you'll ever be able to eliminate that. Yeah, 599 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 3: so you're always going to have this landscape of types 600 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 3: of hatas and types of calibrations. What we're doing is 601 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 3: we're automating that and helping to advise and I think 602 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 3: in the future where we're going is our schedule is 603 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 3: going to be able to tell you, hey, this vehicle, 604 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 3: it already tells you might have this set of equipment 605 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 3: on it, so here's how to check for it. Where 606 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 3: we'll probably go in the future is hey, that and 607 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 3: has this, that and the other on it. And we're 608 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 3: not quite there yet. We're working on it. But you know, 609 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 3: the more simple we can make it for the body 610 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 3: shop to know exactly what to do, the more we 611 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 3: help that production stay up and going, We help them 612 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 3: produce profit for themselves, and everybody wins. 613 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 1: There last question in our in our last minute EVS 614 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: electric vehicles. Is there an OPUS in the future of 615 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 1: EVS that will interface with them? 616 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 3: There absolutely is. I mean, they are vehicles on the road. 617 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 3: OPUS helps repair vehicles and it doesn't have to have 618 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 3: an internal combust an engine to really need help. And 619 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of shops out there who 620 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 3: do need help with EVS. It's a different type of car, 621 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 3: and it's a different type of it have new and 622 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 3: different subsystems, and that's probably why they need the help. 623 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 3: And yes, we are there and we do help a 624 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 3: lot of shops, you know, get the repair done correctly 625 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 3: and get there and get that safely under round. 626 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: You know. The OE side. The ability to interface with 627 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: OI software is to me is the ace in the hole, 628 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 1: and that's what makes Opus or part of what makes 629 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: Opus so special, because there's so many pieces to the 630 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: puzzle here. I want to thank you for taking the 631 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 1: time today. I'm sure the listeners really enjoyed it. I 632 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: know I did. It's I always learned something every time 633 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: I talk to one of you guys. It's just been 634 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: an absolute pleasure, sir. If anybody's looking for more information, 635 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 1: is there a website? 636 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, there is, it's www opusivs dot com. 637 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: Cool means Hugh Atkins opis IVS. We'll have you back 638 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: again real soon. You'd take good care and have a 639 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 1: good rest of the day. 640 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 3: Thank you too. 641 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 1: You're very welcome. 642 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 3: I'm run appreciate it. 643 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: You're very welcome, sir. I'm running any in the card doctor. 644 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: I'll be back right after this. Don't go away. Welcome 645 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: back running any of the card doctor. I want to 646 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 1: thank you Atkins again. OPISIVS, opisibs dot com. If you're 647 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 1: looking for more information, it's you know, you have to 648 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: use the tool to understand the technology of it. But 649 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 1: you know you'll grab a scan tool if you're in 650 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 1: a shop or you're doing it yourself, and it'll give 651 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 1: you a great information if it's a good tool. And 652 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: we've had other tool manufacturers out there. You know, you 653 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: maybe you're going to use a launch first and then 654 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: go grab an Opus as you as the problem escalates 655 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: and so forth. But the neat thing that Opus does 656 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 1: is their tech support and their ability to talk to 657 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: you know, factory trained technicians. Sometimes I get to talk 658 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: to an engineer or two and how this works, how 659 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 1: that works, a lot of information. They're awful lot of information, 660 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 1: and then you know, you come to the conclusion that 661 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 1: you still can't be prepared for everything that's out there. 662 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,359 Speaker 1: We had a twenty one jeep gladiator as my last 663 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 1: job of the day this past week, and it was 664 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 1: a simple thing. It was just an oil change. I 665 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 1: changed the oil and then I had to do an 666 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 1: oil reset. Now on a jeep Gladiator, a lot of 667 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 1: the jeeps, you know, the oil reset is done through 668 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 1: a screen and you scroll down and you get to 669 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 1: the okay and you say it says click hit the 670 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 1: ok button and hold it down and all reset. It 671 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 1: doesn't work. Tried it a second time. It doesn't work. 672 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: Thought about it. Left the key on like I was doing, 673 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 1: and engine not running, and I pressed the gas pedal 674 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 1: three times. That reset it, just like you were doing 675 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 1: an old school GM. So sometimes the technology it's just 676 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 1: not perfect. I'm ronning eighty in the car doctor, reminding 677 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,280 Speaker 1: you till the next time. Good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. 678 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: See you