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Speaker 1: Gratings. Jets Nation Week one is finally here.

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Speaker 2: It is the New York Jets facing the Pittsburgh Steelers

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Speaker 2: at Mettlefe Stadium Sunday. We're gonna be breaking down all

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Speaker 2: things Jets in Steelers with Bart Scott and Brian Baldinger.

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Speaker 2: The great thing about Bart and Baldy is we've been

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Speaker 2: working with them for years and now they're joining the

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Speaker 2: Official Jets Podcast weekly throughout the season that's coming up.

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Speaker 3: We'll meet anybody in the world, and I think we're

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Speaker 3: gonna win. Next Sundays.

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Speaker 4: Gets wonderful.

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Speaker 5: Can't wait, put your seat belts on and getting ready

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Speaker 1: Is so great to see. I am looking forward to

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Speaker 1: this season like none other.

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Speaker 4: Likewise that Becker I am.

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Speaker 5: I mean, listen, I'm waiting to see the beginning. It's

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Speaker 5: nothing like the beginning or the start or something. It's

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Speaker 5: at its most pure state, no egos involved, everybody pulling

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Speaker 5: the rope the same direction, full it by in. I'm

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Speaker 5: waiting to see what type of mission statement when we

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Speaker 5: at the end of the season, when we get there,

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Speaker 5: what is the definition of play like a Jetmy.

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Speaker 1: Well, we're going to get there together. Boys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, Look, I mean I always think that coaching

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Speaker 3: matters more in the NFL than any other sport. And

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Speaker 3: I want to see how Aaron leads this team. We

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Speaker 3: all recognize a lot of the mistakes that have been

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Speaker 3: made in the past, a lot of the errors that

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Speaker 3: travel with some of the teams. He gets a clean

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Speaker 3: slate here to kind of put his stamp on it,

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Speaker 3: and I want to see what that looks like.

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Speaker 1: Bart, What do you think about the dynamic of this game?

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Speaker 2: Jets the Steelers storylines of plenty on both sides.

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Speaker 4: The NFL always gets it right, you know.

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Speaker 5: And this this matchup was made farbi before we knew

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Speaker 5: that Aaron Rodgers was going there. I believe the NFL

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Speaker 5: had already got the confirmation. It can't be a juice

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Speaker 5: to your storyline. This may be one of the most

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Speaker 5: important games and one of the most interesting games of

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Speaker 5: both teams throughout the entire season. I know Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 5: is going to eventually go play in the matchup. You

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Speaker 5: know that's historically talking about his competition between the Ravens

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Speaker 5: and the Steelers. But the fact that you have two opposites,

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Speaker 5: you weren't good enough. You know, for me, you went

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Speaker 5: on and it's kind of like a celebrity wife swap,

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Speaker 5: right when they had in the wife swap. So you're

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Speaker 5: swapping like leaders, Let's see who does a better job

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Speaker 5: with this group. You know, I think, you know with

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Speaker 5: what Justin Fields brings a calmness and the ability to

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Speaker 5: be able to have a connection with Gary Wilson. I

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Speaker 5: think he's happy because I feel like he looked like

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Speaker 5: he was looked over, and the hardest thing when you're

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Speaker 5: a young player trying to come up is to feel

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Speaker 5: like you're not as good as or looked on, looked

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Speaker 5: past right, And you know, he almost sometimes became the

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Speaker 5: third option for Aaron Rodgers, and you know, it was

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Speaker 5: good to see him get that extension. But on the

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Speaker 5: flip side, I think Aaron Rodgers is healthy for the

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Speaker 5: first time in alone time, and you know, the reports

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Speaker 5: that I'm getting is that he looks amazing there. You know,

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Speaker 5: Sauce is so many storylines, Sauce going against Metcalf. Is

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Speaker 5: he going to be a traveling corner this time? What

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Speaker 5: does that redefined? We know what that means. When you're

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Speaker 5: upper echelone. And now that he's got the money to

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Speaker 5: returns back to that standard that we're accustomed seeing him at.

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Speaker 1: Body. How about you?

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Speaker 2: What are some of your favorite top of the line

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Speaker 2: items here?

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Speaker 3: Jets Steelers, Well, it's you know, it's it's the quarterbacks, uh,

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Speaker 3: to begin with. I mean they Jets know Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 3: the past rus. They they know, they've listened to his checks.

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Speaker 3: They've they've they've heard him talk about it, you know

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Speaker 3: big time target in DK Metcalf, and that story was

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Speaker 3: being broke long before Aaron ever Simon the Steelers, right,

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Speaker 3: they were out working together in California. To Bart's point, like,

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Speaker 3: all right, Sauce just paid a bunch of money. Let's go, uh,

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Speaker 3: the past. But I would expect Aaron Glenn to like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: let's go match this up, because that's gonna be Aaron's

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Speaker 3: first look in a lot of cases. And let's just

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Speaker 3: see how Sauce handles it. He had he had trouble

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Speaker 3: last year, you know, more penalties that he probably wanted

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Speaker 3: that's part of it.

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Speaker 4: And then Justin Fields.

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Speaker 3: Was he was four and two as a Steelers quarterback

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Speaker 3: When he left the field against Dallas, they were up

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Speaker 3: by field goal. They end up losing that game. They

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Speaker 3: could have been five and one. But you know, Justin

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Speaker 3: He wants to let this thing really ride on the field.

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Speaker 3: You know, Garrett his go to guy right now, But

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Speaker 3: look beyond Garrett, because I think Pittsburgh's defenses is legitimately good,

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Speaker 3: really good. They got veteran players, They've got a lot

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Speaker 3: the postseason. Let's see how the Jets attack it and

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Speaker 3: how they they were able to put up points against

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Speaker 3: This is at this point, all right, this.

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Speaker 5: Is what I love about this whole matchup, right, Like,

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Speaker 5: this is the healthiest that the Stillers are going to be,

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Speaker 5: right because you know, with this old group, the Ben

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Speaker 5: five games there. Unfortunately, the Jets are going to get

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Speaker 5: best they're going to be early. But I'm interested to

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Speaker 5: I love that the fact that the Jets finally got

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Speaker 5: a big fatty to fill up That can be a

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Speaker 5: So it's so many matchup and the great thing is

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Speaker 5: we have no idea what we're gonna expect. The wild

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Speaker 5: Love Game Number one is because it's about coaching.

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Speaker 4: To your point, who's prepared in the off season.

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Speaker 5: I know you say that the defense knows Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 5: but the coaching staff don't know Aaron Rodgers. Brooks don't

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Speaker 5: know Aaron Rodgers, right, so he don't have that intimate

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Speaker 5: So I think advantaged Aaron because the players know that

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Speaker 5: they kind of don't know Stevens was in Baltimore, and

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Speaker 5: he's the guy that's gonna have to be the guy

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Speaker 5: to step up. Because one thing we know about Aaron

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Speaker 5: a player that we didn't know a name player.

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Speaker 4: Rather it was Greg Jennings or John Jones or Jordan Nelson.

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Speaker 5: So is Roman Wilson that guy because the loneliest place

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Speaker 5: in the world on the field, it's opposite at all

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Speaker 5: that is about. So everybody has questions. This course is

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Speaker 1: I believe you guys are diving into the matchups already.

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Speaker 2: I I'm actually gonna counter Bart's point when you say

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Speaker 2: advantage Aaron here, Aaron Glenn has had a lot of

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Speaker 2: success against Aaron Rodgers in his career. But before we

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Speaker 2: get further down that road, let's talk about coaching landscape,

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Speaker 2: organizational landscape. You have Aaron Glenn who's fifty three years old.

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Speaker 2: You have Mike Tomlin who's fifty three years old. Tomlin

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Speaker 2: eighteen seasons in Pittsburgh and Pittsburgh they've never had a

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Speaker 1: A crossroads, right.

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers has said this is gonna be his last

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Speaker 2: year and he's gonna give it a go with the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: Where is Baldy. The Jets are the beginning of a

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Speaker 3: Look, I mean Mike Tomlin, I mean, everybody that knows him,

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Speaker 3: strong voice. They also haven't won a playoff game in

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Speaker 3: really loud about that, because the Steelers are about winning championships.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they've got six You walk into that Steeler facility,

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Speaker 3: whether Aaron Rodgers can deliver that or not, that remains

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Speaker 3: I think Aaron Glenn, though, he's inheriting a team that

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Speaker 3: was the most penalized in football last year and if

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Speaker 3: you want to lose Week one, beat yourself, like that's

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Speaker 3: what's got to stop. And Aaron Glenn has been preaching

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Speaker 3: that in practice, you go out there. You listen to

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Speaker 3: him first preseason game, he was distraught over some of

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Speaker 3: the pre snap penalties the Jets last year and Aaron

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Speaker 3: Rodgers was a part of that. So I'd love to

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Speaker 3: that's coaching.

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Speaker 2: Bart Tomlin has always said the standard is a standard,

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Speaker 2: and you're seeing it here with the Jets at One

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Speaker 2: creating a standard here and we have to establish our

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Speaker 5: It's one thing that says another thing to do it.

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Speaker 5: To Baldy's point, and you are what you put on tape.

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Speaker 5: Your words and your actions have to match each other.

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Speaker 5: You're going to say you're gonna be one of the

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Speaker 5: most physical football teams, you got to prove that on

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Speaker 4: You got to be a badass.

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Speaker 5: People turn that film, well, they got to whoa, Hey,

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Speaker 5: this might be a double chin strive game. Everybody knew

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 2: Bart touched upon this before the matchup of Rogers going

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Speaker 3: Baldie Well, I mean, the Steelers have been doing much

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Speaker 4: Right now?

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Speaker 2: Bart, the Jets were last in the NFL in terms

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Speaker 5: One day, we know that Aaron Rodgers is going to

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Speaker 2: Save those thoughts on the Jets offense. I want to

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Speaker 5: heavy personnel and then they break the formation, you could

439
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Speaker 5: potentially be getting you know, linebackers on on tight ends,

440
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Speaker 5: which is always advantage Stiller.

441
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Speaker 4: So it's Arthur Smith going to.

442
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Speaker 5: Play that game where they play the matchup personnel game

443
00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 5: and break the formation and break the tendency to try

444
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:32,480
Speaker 5: and isolate and get the opportunities.

445
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Speaker 3: Well, you just think about this part. I mean, Arthur

446
00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:39,000
Speaker 3: Smith has had JANEU Smith in Tennessee, he had him

447
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,160
Speaker 3: in Atlanta, and he wanted them in Pittsburgh. Like there's

448
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:43,919
Speaker 3: a plan you know what I mean, there's a plan

449
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,800
Speaker 3: for him on how to use him. He recognizes his

450
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,159
Speaker 3: ability to run routes like a like a big wide receiver,

451
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Speaker 3: and so I think he's going to be a big

452
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,440
Speaker 3: part of this now whether Aaron Rodgers you know, features

453
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Speaker 3: him or not. He's there for a reason and they've

454
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Speaker 3: always been and Arthur Smith is always been a big

455
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Speaker 3: tight end guy. Twelve personnel. Thirteen personnel. So with with

456
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,359
Speaker 3: what we're not really sure about Roman Wilson, you know,

457
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,480
Speaker 3: and some of these guys outside of DK, I feel

458
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,159
Speaker 3: like This is a tight end game, so how do

459
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 3: the Jets gonna match up with it? It's a huge

460
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Speaker 3: part of this EA and how they're going to limit

461
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Speaker 3: some of that production.

462
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Speaker 5: That's what I love because now you would ultimately say, Okay,

463
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Speaker 5: well Cisco, this we earn your money.

464
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Speaker 4: Baby. You know what I'm saying. Come down here in

465
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Speaker 4: this box and I see you man and man.

466
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Speaker 5: Let's see you mirror this guy and play some form

467
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:34,960
Speaker 5: of a man and man or some type of bracket

468
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 5: with linebackers. That's what I love about the matchup everybody.

469
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 5: You never know who has the heavy lifting from week

470
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Speaker 5: to week, and you won't know until you get the

471
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,719
Speaker 5: first fifteen place script. What's the true game plan? So

472
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,160
Speaker 5: who can make the matchups and game ones. Coaches are

473
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 5: way more important in game once than they are in

474
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Speaker 5: other ones because it's the unknown.

475
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 4: You literally don't know. You literally have one game plan.

476
00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,679
Speaker 5: You have the adjustment game plan that you have to

477
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,359
Speaker 5: go to, like, all right, this is what we get.

478
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 4: This is what we're gonna get for the rest of

479
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:02,880
Speaker 4: the game.

480
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 5: All Right, we gotta change something, throwing this package out,

481
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:08,199
Speaker 5: We're bringing this package in.

482
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Speaker 4: That's the beauty of this is when teaching matters.

483
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Speaker 5: This is why, like a lot of these guys that

484
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 5: come from these coaching trees, they can't coach any way

485
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 5: out of wet paper bag because they don't have the background.

486
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,439
Speaker 5: They just have their system and that's it. Well, we

487
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,920
Speaker 5: know Wilkes has been around long enough and he has

488
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Speaker 5: multiple systems. They's been around, He's been tutored by different people.

489
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Speaker 5: His coaching tree is different, right, That's what I'm talking

490
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Speaker 5: about when we talk about the beauty Arthur Smith.

491
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Speaker 4: You know, there's something like kind of throwbacks.

492
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Speaker 5: Right, even though Aaron Glenn is the first time head

493
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Speaker 5: coach fifty three years old, he's a throwback. Comes back

494
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Speaker 5: from Sean Payton, comes back from Bill Parcels. So like,

495
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Speaker 5: I feel like we don't have teachers like we used to.

496
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Speaker 5: We have teachers that have their systems. If their system

497
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Speaker 5: is broken, they don't have a personnel to match it,

498
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Speaker 5: then the whole game plan goes to hell. But these

499
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Speaker 5: are traditional coaches that are teachers that were taught football,

500
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 5: not systems.

501
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Speaker 4: I can coach four to three, I coach a three four,

502
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 4: it don't matter. I can coach it.

503
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Speaker 5: If I got good defensive ends, I can coach I

504
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 5: got good d tackles, I can coach if I got

505
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 5: bad secondary good secondary.

506
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Speaker 4: I can be.

507
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,919
Speaker 5: Mainly zone if I have to taple two, read and react.

508
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 5: Or I can be aggressive and cover one, cover zero,

509
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 5: Blitzburg Pittsburgh, whatever you want to call it a need

510
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 5: but defense, that's the beauty. These are two coaching staffs

511
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Speaker 5: that have teachers and that are riddled with former players

512
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 5: that can tell you the why and the what, not

513
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Speaker 5: just the.

514
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Speaker 2: What all right, before we flip into the other side

515
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 2: of the ball, I just wanted to mention Johonnu Smith

516
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:41,360
Speaker 2: last year with Miami eighty eight catches, eight receiving touchdowns.

517
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 2: You had friar Mouth in Pittsburgh sixty five catches last season,

518
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:49,679
Speaker 2: seven receiving touchdowns. Those two along combined for fifteen touchdowns.

519
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 2: We know Arthur Smith favors the play action game, and

520
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:58,160
Speaker 2: only three teams ran the ball more than Steelers last year.

521
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Speaker 2: But it's gonna be so interesting to see see what

522
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 2: this actually looks like with Rogers at the helm uh

523
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Speaker 2: Bart touched upon this earlier. Baldi, do you want to

524
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 2: see Sauce Gardner moving with DK Metcalf, Yes?

525
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Speaker 3: I do?

526
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Speaker 4: You do?

527
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I do? Because he's this is I mean, when

528
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 3: you have Sauce's size, I mean all you're looking for

529
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Speaker 3: is action like Sauce won. Like there's games when he's

530
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 3: out there in right field waiting on a t ball.

531
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Speaker 3: They're like, like, actually do something like this. This is

532
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,479
Speaker 3: going to engage him. Like I think this is going

533
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Speaker 3: to bring the like I thought he really struggled last year.

534
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 3: I think we all kind of saw it. But when

535
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 3: you when you got a true X receiver that changes

536
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,679
Speaker 3: the game with his size and his leaping ability and

537
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Speaker 3: his speed, Like this is why Sauce was the fourth

538
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 3: pick in the draft. You just want like you want

539
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 3: to take this. You want to be in the spotlight,

540
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,640
Speaker 3: right bart, Don't you want this right here?

541
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Speaker 4: Absolutely? Because this is what they said you couldn't do.

542
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 5: Maybe this was just because in solid system that wasn't

543
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 5: a requirement. But you know, I'm sitting here and I'll

544
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 5: being funny lit the waste because he better make sure

545
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 5: that he take a little bit extra protein because you

546
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,399
Speaker 5: talk about a guy that has to me, he reminds

547
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,640
Speaker 5: me a lot of Dennis Rodman being a Pistons fan.

548
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 5: Like he can spast off, he can get under your

549
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 5: skin like no other and don't play his game. Don't

550
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,360
Speaker 5: play his game where you get wrapped up and trying

551
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 5: to hit him or hurt him. I've seen linebackers try

552
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 5: and hit him and hurt themselves, right because he built

553
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 5: with Brandy, even though all he eats his candy, you

554
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 5: know what I mean. And I've seen I've seen safeties

555
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 5: go in linebacker, I mean in corners get choked up.

556
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 5: Because if Sauce want to say I'm different, he's gonna

557
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 5: have to prove it because the edges are going to

558
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 5: be set, has to be set against Metcalf because he's

559
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 5: gonna be involved heavily in that run game, right, He's

560
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 5: all the popcorn muscles he got are legit, and he

561
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,439
Speaker 5: will try and ragnall you you know, I think you

562
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 5: know you mix it up a slight, slight bit. I'm

563
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 5: not gonna mirror Sauce all the time with because Stevens

564
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 5: it's a very physical, big receiver. That's that's that situation, right,

565
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 5: that has that dog because Metcalf, even though he's a big,

566
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 5: fast receiver, he doesn't have a lot of wiggle. So

567
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 5: I worry about that with Stevens trying to touch athletic

568
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 5: guys because he'll launch and get his skis, his head

569
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 5: in front of his skis at times. But you know,

570
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 5: I think the former physical matchup, he's probably the stronger

571
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 5: guy to go if it's a run. But Sosconna have

572
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 5: to earn his money, has to show everybody that hey,

573
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 5: I just I'm deserving. I'm just as good as Patrick

574
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 5: stan On right here clicking at his heels because certain

575
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 5: is known for being able to be physical, like Reabs

576
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 5: was in a run as well. And the good thing

577
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 5: is they played against each other last year, so that

578
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 5: he's got to feel about some of the antics and

579
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 5: some of the things that Metcalf wants to do, especially

580
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 5: when he's fully engaged.

581
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Speaker 2: He physically looks bigger after Metcalf and those tight ends.

582
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 1: You got Roman Wilson.

583
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 2: We'll have to see what he looks like because really

584
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 2: don't have too much tape on football.

585
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 3: Labers didn't play.

586
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, so you got to go back all the

587
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 2: way to college at Michigan.

588
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: You got Kelvin Austin.

589
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 2: Man and then you also got Scronick who they put

590
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 2: in the game and he gets after he's a special teamer,

591
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 2: but he'll get after you in the blocking game. Okay,

592
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 2: let's take a quick break.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna come.

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Speaker 2: Back and talk Jets offense, Steelers defense. Jets fans be

595
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Speaker 2: at Medlfe Stadium for the twenty twenty five home opener

596
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Speaker 2: as your New York Jets take on the Pittsburgh Steelers

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Speaker 2: at one pm on Sunday, September seventh, presented by Moodies,

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Speaker 2: secur you seats at NY Jets dot com slash tickets.

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Speaker 3: Bart.

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Speaker 2: Justin Fields makes his Jets debut against his former team,

601
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Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers. Much was said about what Fields did

602
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 2: or didn't do in the preseason, but Bart, he only

603
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 2: had nine pass attempts.

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00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, and maybe he's getting a little bit more practice.

605
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 5: But listen, I don't want to tear on the fam

606
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 5: and I don't want to be in awe of what

607
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 5: Justin Fields is doing passing the football.

608
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 4: When I turn on the film, I need to do

609
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 4: like this, look real close, lean.

610
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 5: Into the camera, like is this the Jets or is

611
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 5: this a twenty nineteen Baltimore Ravens. Because I want to

612
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 5: see the most complex run game in the history of

613
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 5: a run games. You got three, you got three good

614
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 5: running backs. I want to see guys coming in motion.

615
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 5: I want to see guys going there. I want to

616
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 5: see the most complex ball handling, the movement in RPOs

617
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 5: and chips and like personnel package, I want to see all.

618
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 5: I want to see thirty different ways to run the power.

619
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Speaker 5: I want to see twenty different ways to run the boss.

620
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 5: I want to see fifteen different ways to see a

621
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 5: jet suite or a toss or a flair pass or

622
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 5: counter or I want to see a wham. I want

623
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 5: to see every type of wham you can have out

624
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 5: of every I want to see offensive lineman, find me

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00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 5: a defensive tackle.

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, Bart, I don't disagree with that, and

628
00:29:56,160 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 3: you know the But also they've invested so heavily in

629
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Speaker 3: this offensive line, Like, I want to see these guys

630
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 3: actually move the line of scrimmage. There's one thing where

631
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 3: you're running read options and reverses and you're doing all

632
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 3: these different, you know things from a scheme standpoint, But

633
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 3: the end of the day, can they win the line

634
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 3: of scrimmage part? Like, I know we're asking a lot

635
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 3: from two young tackles, but they were drafted very high,

636
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Speaker 3: and tackles that are drafted high are expected to come

637
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Speaker 3: in and perform and play, you know, at a high

638
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 3: level against a very good front. And so I kind

639
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 3: of want to see not just what you're talking about,

640
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 3: which is which I hope Tanner can do and they do,

641
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 3: but also and you know they've got big backs. Brie

642
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 3: and Brailer Hall are big backs. Can they wear the

643
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 3: Steelers down? Like Brailer is a beast. But let's let's

644
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 3: see if they can get those two backs along with Justin.

645
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Speaker 3: If you can get to thirty carries that if you

646
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 3: can get to thirty carries as an offense, hea that

647
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 3: means you're controlling the line of scrimmage, you're not forced

648
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 3: to it. You're in the game. We're in the fourth quarter,

649
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 3: Like I want to see them get to thirty carries

650
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 3: and see if they can get to one fifty one

651
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 3: on the ground that that would be no points kind

652
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 3: of come out of the past game. Justin is gonna

653
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 3: have to make some throws, but it'd be nice if

654
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 3: you could get to thirty plus carries in this game.

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Speaker 5: But that's that's why I said twenty different ways to

656
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Speaker 5: run the power, which is double, double, down, down, pull around.

657
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 5: Let's see, let's see who gonna shorten somebody neck. That's

658
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 5: why I said whams, which is basically a physical trap

659
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 5: on the on the inside, tackle on the nose, guard

660
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 5: straight downhill, straight ahead, no fair dodging. And that's why

661
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 5: I'm talking about cracked toss. I'm talking about. Listen, we

662
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 5: kept Allan Lazar on the on the roster. Oh we

663
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 5: coming down and using that big body. I want to

664
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Speaker 5: see you come down. If you want to talk about

665
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 5: stroking it or whoever they talk about, I want to see.

666
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 5: I want to see that guy come down and be

667
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 5: ear holess and t J Watt. I want to I

668
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 5: want to see somebody take the child and say, we're

669
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 5: gonna get underneath this dude's skin, and I'm gonna come

670
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 5: from outside the party like Hines War used to do.

671
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 5: I'ma come over here with these lions and I'm gonna

672
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 5: hit him in his ear. Now, I'm gonna run back out.

673
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 5: Then I'm gonna come back in, hit him in his

674
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 5: ear again and make him chase me. He's gonna be

675
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 5: so mad that ain't nobody coming in. I want to

676
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 5: see how I want to see how well Joey Porter

677
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 5: Junior can tackle. I want to see how much big play.

678
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 5: Slay still want to tackle and you only do that

679
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 5: by condensed formations. Down down in a round baby front

680
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 5: side pulling by one of the best chef seekers in

681
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 5: all of football. In my opinion, I wanna talking about

682
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 5: double chin strap game because at the end of the day,

683
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 5: I know, just like you know, Baldy, it's only one

684
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 5: thing that the Pittsburgh still is respect and that's getting

685
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 5: punched in the face.

686
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: Wow.

687
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 2: Bart mentioned the Steelers secondary. You got Slay, you got

688
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 2: Porter Junior who had seventeen penalties last year. It's pretty handsy.

689
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 2: And then also Jalen Ramsey comes over from the Dolphins.

690
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: What do you anticipate their back end? How are they

691
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: attacking Garrett Wilson.

692
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 3: Baldy, Well, I feel like they're gonna They're not gonna

693
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 3: travel with Garrett. You know, Uh, all those guys have

694
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 3: a ton of experience one Thornhill. These guys been around

695
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 3: the league a long long time. Deshaun Elliott's been in

696
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 3: this business a long time, drafted by Bart Steam in Baltimore.

697
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 3: But they've got a lot of experience, they got a

698
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 3: lot of age. You know, there's not much they haven't seen.

699
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 3: Just watching a little bit of Jailen in the preseason,

700
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 3: they got a chance to be some nasty, nasty boys

701
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 3: on that side of the field. I mean, Jalen has

702
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 3: always been a good tackler. He's always been physical. His

703
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 3: problem has always, like lately in the last few years,

704
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 3: has just been able to stay on his feet. Double

705
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 3: moves like those things have have really troubled uh, Jalen Ramsey.

706
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 3: He's never been a guy that has had a lot

707
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:51,479
Speaker 3: of interceptions. That's not really his game. He likes, you know,

708
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 3: the big X receivers that he grew up playing against,

709
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 3: like DK Metcalf, you know in Nuke and those kind

710
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 3: of guys. He's not gonna see that really with the Jets.

711
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 3: So let's just see what that age looks like out there.

712
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 3: None of them had really played much of preseason. Let's

713
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 3: see if they can all come together. They got a

714
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 3: lot of new bodies back there, They've rebuilt their secondary.

715
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 3: Let's see if they make any mistakes on the back end.

716
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 5: You know what I love Baldy about, Like when you

717
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 5: have these guys that traditionally have been corners, they become safeties.

718
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 5: I can remember when Tim Tebow was like running around

719
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 5: running people over and he was a quarterback, so we

720
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 5: had protections. So he had a highlight film where he

721
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 5: would run guys over like, oh, this is a physical guy,

722
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 5: he's big, strong. Then they moved him a tight end

723
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,800
Speaker 5: and he had to deal with real killers that he

724
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 5: didn't he wasn't afforded the protections. He wasn't afforded the

725
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 5: protections of a quarterback. So guys came in with that

726
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 5: killer mentality all the time. He didn't worry about what zone,

727
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 5: what area his body I could hit him in. So

728
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 5: like when you talk about this era like Mark Barron

729
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 5: as well, like when he moved from safety to linebacker. Okay, yeah,

730
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 5: coming is one thing to leave out the party and

731
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 5: be a special invite every once in a while.

732
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 4: It's another part to be the guy that's on the

733
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 4: front line.

734
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Speaker 5: So I want to see how much Jalen Ramsey still

735
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 5: really embraces this. I'm a box safety, come down in

736
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 5: the box and be physical. When Breece Hall is coming

737
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 5: through and like it's straight ahead, no fair to die,

738
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 5: and let's see if that old body holds up. Then

739
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 5: let's see when Braylen Allen comes through and he's coming

740
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 5: with a full head of steam and Jalen Ramsey's the

741
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 5: unblocked guy. And I don't care if you get five

742
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 5: yards or four yards or three yards. I want you

743
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 5: to send a physical message to him to say, do

744
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 5: you really want to play safety? You really want to

745
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 5: come in here and this is your new life, and

746
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 5: you really about that smoke. Now, they'll blitz him and

747
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 5: stuff like that because it's blitzberg and they'll put him

748
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 5: down in the box and he'll probably swipe out to

749
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 5: number one play complex coverages. They'll communicate with him because

750
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 5: that's the beauty of having all this veteran leadership.

751
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 4: They do things easy, not the hard way.

752
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,479
Speaker 5: And when I say, they're not gonna run and chase

753
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 5: you if you're gonna be sending crossing around, so they

754
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 5: just gonna pass it off from communicate. But with that

755
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 5: being said, sometimes they can outthink themselves. Unlet's see if

756
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 5: they want to over communicate themselves, because you can. If

757
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 5: you looked at the I forget it was either Texas

758
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 5: or somebody where they were anticipated across the routs, but

759
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 5: they ran the old Gator route because they knew that

760
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 5: they were passing it off, and they came down and

761
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 5: passed off and they pivoted out. So let's see if

762
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 5: you can use that information against Let's see if Tanner

763
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 5: can figure that type of stuff out, because those are

764
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 5: the nuanced and the details.

765
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 4: Because you're gonna get.

766
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 5: Maybe three opportunities in the game to make a big

767
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 5: play based off the schematics being off setting something up.

768
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 5: Because we know one thing about Jaalen Ramsey, see him

769
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 5: throw it, see him catch it. He's a peekaboo guy.

770
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 5: He got a little lot of Delta O'Neill in them,

771
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. Like he's either no risky

772
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 5: nor whiskey, you know what I mean. And the new

773
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 5: Delta O'Dell is Trayvon Diggs.

774
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

775
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 5: He's Sammy salz Is here the whole run, but he

776
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 5: strike out a whole lot because he'll take the risk.

777
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 3: I think we ultimately, yeah, real quick, just to kind

778
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 3: of button us up here. I mean, it's gonna come down.

779
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 3: We've got to see justin fields probably on five or

780
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 3: six plays, like really put the ball right through the

781
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 3: eye of the needle, like third downs, red zone, Like

782
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 3: he's gotta you know, he's got to play quarterback too,

783
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 3: Like he could be the athlete, and he can extend

784
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 3: drives and he can make the defense pay. All that

785
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 3: stuff is true, and he's very capable of doing all that.

786
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 3: But he's also gonna have to make some throw some

787
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 3: stick throws were there's just you know, he's being blanket

788
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 3: you know, Garrett's being blanketed by Jalen Ramsey. But there's

789
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 3: a place to put the ball and he's gonna have

790
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 3: to have some great ball locations, some great throws.

791
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 2: Well, we're off to a great star fellows, I will

792
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,320
Speaker 2: say as we conclude here, watch out for two Jets

793
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 2: rookies and offensive side of the ball. Like Bart's talking about,

794
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 2: explosive plays down the field, Arion Smith can take the

795
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 2: top off a defense that is a world class speedster

796
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 2: and Mason Taylor impress about here in training camp. He

797
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 2: can make an immediate difference out there on the fe

798
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 2: and finally here on offensive side of the ball.

799
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: Bart's been talking about all week.

800
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 2: Baldy, get Breis Hall and get the backs out against

801
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 2: no Steelers linebackers. You get him out in the past

802
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 2: game as well.

803
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 3: They got to let Breece go to work, you know,

804
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 3: and and the passing game. He's a good receiver, whether

805
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 3: it's screens, checkdowns, you know, Texas routes, you name it, like,

806
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 3: get him the football because I feel like he's a

807
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 3: guy that is almost like a hidden weapon because we

808
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 3: didn't see anything really for Breece last year. But he's

809
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 3: a difficult guy to tackle the open field.

810
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:36,439
Speaker 4: I mean it's gonna be Yeah.

811
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 5: I talked to Aaron glendor Camp and they're gonna be

812
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,280
Speaker 5: lining him up like Jacksonville used to do. Fred Taylor

813
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 5: straight up number one and you think, oh, he's not here,

814
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 5: just gonna run a hitch or come back.

815
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 4: Nah, hollow.

816
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.

817
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 2: Last word fellas one word answers. Jets win the coin toss.

818
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 2: You kicking off and playing defense and you're putting your

819
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 2: offense on the field.

820
00:38:59,000 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 3: I'm just kicking off.

821
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just finking I owned the ball to start

822
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 4: the third court.

823
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 5: Ye.

824
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 4: I need to know what I'm getting myself into.

825
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 5: I want to get this defense jacked up three and

826
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 5: out set my my, my, my special teams up for

827
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 5: a short field.

828
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 4: I only got to go twenty yards being field goal range.

829
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 5: You got old Bobby Hill back, you know the agents one,

830
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 5: Nick Folk, and you know, hopefully you can get ahead,

831
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 5: because that's the best way to take the Steelers out

832
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 5: of that run game is to go up by a

833
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 5: couple of scores early to see if they have a

834
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 5: band of that because you.

835
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 4: Know Aaron wants to Bannon to run anyway.

836
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 3: Great. I want I want the Jets fans to be

837
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 3: able to voice their opinions when Aaron takes the field

838
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,280
Speaker 3: if they win the coin toss to start that game.

839
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 2: Are fans boys their opinions with us throughout the year,

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00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 2: here throughout the year on Official Jets podcast.

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Speaker 1: We are just getting started. Great job Balls.

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00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks guys, Douces.

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