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Speaker 2: Look at this now. Tip to Tim. This is our life,

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Speaker 1: That's the spirit we.

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Speaker 2: Bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: This this Morning Combat. Hey, it's the twentieth of February.

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Speaker 1: Look at these two jabbronis. It's time for Morning Combat.

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Speaker 1: Hi everyone, I'm merely one half fifty percent of your

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Speaker 1: hosting duo. I joined you from the capital of a

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Speaker 1: status of needles right here in Washington, DC. My name

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Speaker 1: is Luke Thomas, joined by the King of CT and

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Speaker 1: Ed's it's Brian Campbell. Ahi, Brian Campbell. That was a

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Speaker 1: really unfair intro. How are you doing?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you were looking to hurt me, you got me. Brother, Congratulations,

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Speaker 2: But uh, you know Capital the King of CT. Don't

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Speaker 2: ever forget it. I'm back, baby, I'm back with a

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Speaker 2: bang two and you know, a weird weekend of fights,

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Speaker 2: but a fun one, Luke. Okay, I flew home from Topeka,

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Speaker 2: had a chill couple days. I'm ready to come out

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Speaker 2: swinging right now.

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Speaker 1: Okay, when you left Topeka and you got back to Connecticut,

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Speaker 1: how happy were you to have indoor plumbing again?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean Topeka was Luke, who we thought

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Speaker 2: they were at the end.

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Speaker 1: Of the day.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's leave it at that, all right.

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Speaker 1: Dude, Bill Bill Hicks. Bill Hicks in the eighties was

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Speaker 1: let's be real, like there's serious pockets of humanity in

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Speaker 1: the United States. It's really quite true. But yeah, so

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Speaker 1: shouts all the MK listeners in Topeka. You've got nothing

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Speaker 1: else to do.

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Speaker 2: But my favorite, my favorite Bill Hicks comedy special is Luke.

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Speaker 1: The one that Dennis Leary stole.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No Cure for Cancer by Dennis Larry nineteen ninety one.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, I mean he really did. If you go watch

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Speaker 1: Old Bill have a bunch of Bill Hicks books too.

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Speaker 1: If you actually go watch Bill Hicks and he put

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Speaker 1: you really just didn't you? All Right, it's a great bit.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you're gonna steal a bit, that's a

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Speaker 1: good one. But okay, neither here nor there, right for Sutherland.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, come on, come on, Dennis Leary, that

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Speaker 2: was my favorite guy. That was my guy, Luke, And

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Speaker 2: now you tell me it's like fifth grade Santa Claus

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Speaker 1: You know, Dennis Leary was your guy.

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Speaker 2: It was why guy with a bullet dude, that was

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Speaker 1: Okay, you're a baseball glove, Get on that truck. I

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Speaker 1: mean that's just a great line. That's just a great line.

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Speaker 2: Next up, Vietnam surprised the fuck out of them. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that's cultureal least.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you mean, you could probably could have

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Speaker 1: skipped that one. But you know, you're the air, the

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Speaker 1: guy who karate chops the air. So what can we expect? Hey,

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Speaker 1: nice grogu coffee mug there. Anyway, we got a lot

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Speaker 1: to get to today. To your point, there wasn't anything.

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Speaker 1: interesting combat sports weekend. So thumbs up. If you're watching

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Speaker 1: to let's see. I'm sure you're gonna have some showboxing

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Speaker 1: some BKFC, some boxing news, and a final what I

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Speaker 2: B See how many more bows can we tie? For

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Speaker 1: Luke? Okay, well, they just keep going. But I think

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Speaker 1: So we'll see. But BC, one of remind folks, Showtime

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Speaker 2: sent you, uh, no codes necessary. I don't believe, Luke.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So there you have it, go get it, go

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Speaker 1: get it everyone, please do ye BC? Are you are

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Speaker 1: you doing all right? Otherwise you're ready to get this going?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I met a bunch of MK fans randomly in

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Speaker 2: the wild, Luke. I got there was a guy in

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Speaker 2: got that. He made himself big MK fan. He hooked

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Speaker 2: me up big big shout out to that now right there.

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Speaker 1: I legit think we forgot to include it in the

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Speaker 1: results for okay bet because I believe BC. I don't

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Speaker 1: know how you did. I know for I went one

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Speaker 1: for five, you went.

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Speaker 2: Four and one. I went one and four and I know,

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Speaker 2: you know, Oh, should we panic? Am I gonna have

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Speaker 2: to buy tickets to to cancel Culture Corpse right now? Nope, Pluke, Nope,

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Speaker 2: it's early. This is a game of runs. Okay, it's early,

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Speaker 1: Here, BC, I think you might be bad at this.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not. Here's here's the here's the here's

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, I'm emotional, Luke when it comes to betting,

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Speaker 2: gonna come back with a new strategy this Friday. For okay,

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Speaker 2: bet what do we have this weekend? We got what like, uh,

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Speaker 1: I think Krilov is fighting Ryan Span this weekend. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So there's a Showtime Championship boxing cards.

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Speaker 1: So I'm also in also the rematch between your slob

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Speaker 1: I'm a slob and in your famous description as well

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Speaker 1: in bltmore. That's actually a really good one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great fight. So I'm gonna make it

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Speaker 2: And I'm sure Luke is much better than that, you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I'm not good. I'm not great at this.

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Speaker 1: I'm thirteen thirteen.

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Speaker 2: foreign fifth boy? Okay, I got some ground to make up, Luke. Okay.

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Speaker 1: So we're the Washington Commanders and I'm the Kansas City

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Speaker 1: Well not even I'm really more like the Jacksonville Jaguars.

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Speaker 1: All right, BC, let's get this party started. If we

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Speaker 1: number one BC. It I mean, this was I thought

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Speaker 1: Blanchefield defeats Jessica Androge via second round submission. Lots of

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Speaker 1: So first things first, how big of a victory is.

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Speaker 2: This it's massive. It really is. Twenty three years old,

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Speaker 2: You're gonna find out the hardest way possible. No, Luke,

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Speaker 2: turns out. And you know, we knew Aaron blanchew was

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Speaker 2: very good, but Luke. It turns out she's even better that.

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Speaker 2: And then we imagine coming in and I think, even

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Speaker 2: with you having predicted her to win, is it possible

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Speaker 2: you could have predicted it going exactly the way it did,

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Speaker 2: her absorbing hillacious bombs early, but staying the course, picking

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Speaker 2: and she's twenty three years old. From Elmwood Park, New Jersey.

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Speaker 2: Welcome Aaron Blanchfield.

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Speaker 1: Dude. I gotta tell you, and I texted this to you.

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Speaker 1: You can tell you the audience if online or not.

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Speaker 1: I texted it to you, Dude. I loved this win

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Speaker 1: from Aaron Blansfield, not merely because of its significance, right,

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Speaker 1: beating someone who's a former champion, frankly, rather thoroughly. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I won't call it one way traffic, but this was decisive, right,

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Speaker 1: This was decisive. But here's what I love about this fight, dude.

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Speaker 1: She went right to center and put a jab right

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Speaker 2: Blanchefield shut those doors down in her demeanor and how

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Speaker 1: All I'm saying is you can do. There's just not

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Speaker 1: find her way into the takedown. And I think she's

426
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Speaker 1: probably far better on the ground, or at least certainly

427
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Speaker 1: better in general on the ground, and that to me

428
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Speaker 1: makes it just a much more exciting and intriguing fight.

429
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Speaker 1: I think for those reasons and what she was able

430
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Speaker 1: to do against Andra, she's gonna skip the line, probably relative,

431
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Speaker 1: probably easily. I think she's gonna be next here, and

432
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Speaker 1: I think her chance to beat Chievchenko is as live

433
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Speaker 1: as it's ever been for anyone in her title reign.

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Speaker 2: Look if they go Tyler Santos versus Fierro, that's a

435
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Speaker 2: great fight as well. Obviously, we're all excited that Tachiao

436
00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,760
Speaker 2: Suarez is coming on. There's some younger fighters who are

437
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Speaker 2: still one or two wins away, like a King casey O'Neil,

438
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Speaker 2: Macy Barbara that I mentioned. Tracy Cortes is on a run.

439
00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:43,480
Speaker 2: I mean, Luke, suddenly this division kind of fun, kind

440
00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:47,640
Speaker 2: of fun right now, and I'm into that. So I'm

441
00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:52,080
Speaker 2: curious because Blanchshield making this sleep now gets as excited

442
00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,280
Speaker 2: about a title fight. You know, if Valentina keeps the

443
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Speaker 2: belt against Alexa Grosso, do you think Valentina is slipping

444
00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,520
Speaker 2: or do you think that was just Look, you know,

445
00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,400
Speaker 2: you're gonna you're gonna try to defend the belt every

446
00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 2: three four months like Valentine is trying to do her

447
00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,760
Speaker 2: every five to six. You're gonna you're gonna catch some

448
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Speaker 2: some style matchups, some tough outings. How do you reconcile

449
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Speaker 2: the performance Valentina had against Tyler Santo's in light of

450
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Speaker 2: the domination she had before that, and try to figure

451
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Speaker 2: out exactly where the champion is right now?

452
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just think she's coming to the end of

453
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Speaker 1: her prime. Let me give you the exact age of

454
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Speaker 1: Valentina's chef Schenko, so I don't say anything super crazy here.

455
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Speaker 1: So Valentina Shipchanko. According to the Internet is thirty four,

456
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Speaker 1: She takes great care of herself. I think she'll actually

457
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Speaker 1: have a fairly long end of her prime, relatively speaking,

458
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Speaker 1: and then even post prime whenever that happens, I think

459
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Speaker 1: she'll still be pretty good even if she decides to compete.

460
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Speaker 1: But I think she's kind she's probably competing for a

461
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Speaker 1: long time. I think she's kind of getting at the

462
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Speaker 1: be somewhere initiating the last stage of a prime, which means,

463
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,720
Speaker 1: listen to what I'm saying, she's still in it. She

464
00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,439
Speaker 1: is still in that that that that portion of it.

465
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Speaker 1: But I think she's at the very she's coming down

466
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Speaker 1: off the peak, and obviously someone like Blanschfield is just

467
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,960
Speaker 1: rocketing up there. And all life is all about timing, right,

468
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe Schifchenko at her absolute very best, and and

469
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 1: and and Blanchfield at the very best. Who knows what

470
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,720
Speaker 1: a fight like that would look like. But you fight

471
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Speaker 1: them at the time in which you fight them, and

472
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 1: at the stage in which they are at, and their

473
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Speaker 1: career and their physical health and their mental wherewithal and

474
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Speaker 1: everything else. These are the real ingredients about what makes

475
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Speaker 1: a fight. And I just feel like again, am i am?

476
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Speaker 1: I boldly predicting Blanchfield beats her. It's hard to pick

477
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 1: very confidently against Chiffchenko. She's just too well routed and

478
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,159
Speaker 1: too defensively sound. You especially in a five round contest

479
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,680
Speaker 1: too right, You see, like a three round contest, Chiffchenko

480
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 1: actually can be beaten because you can take a round

481
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Speaker 1: for two from her in various places, right can if

482
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Speaker 1: I can be up and down with her, But over

483
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 1: the course of a five rounder, that's less true. So

484
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Speaker 1: it's just hard for me to predict that she can

485
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Speaker 1: do that. But but when you just look at the

486
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Speaker 1: contenders and you say, what are the things that they

487
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,680
Speaker 1: have right now that gives you a reason to believe

488
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Speaker 1: they can lord that over Shivchenko for enough time to

489
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Speaker 1: either get their hand raised or put her away. You

490
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 1: just don't see that with most of these contenders. Tatiana

491
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 1: Suarez is sitting at the back end of the dark

492
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 1: horse contendership que we have to see what happens with her.

493
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 1: But right now, Blanchefield already shows you something that makes

494
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Speaker 1: you believe there's good reason to believe she can actually

495
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Speaker 1: implement that in a successful way over the champion. For

496
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,359
Speaker 1: that reason alone, push her to the front and by

497
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,679
Speaker 1: the way she wants all the smoke. Anyway, if you

498
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,120
Speaker 1: give her somebody who's like number five in the division,

499
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 1: we see she's gonna run over them, Like who do

500
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,199
Speaker 1: you think she's gonna not just she's gonna beat the

501
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 1: other contenders at the stage, give her the champion.

502
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Speaker 2: Well said Luke. Well said, I do have. If I

503
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 2: was on team Blanchfield getting the title next, I would

504
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 2: fear the marketing potential of Phiro fighting for a belt

505
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 2: in Paris if that was something they wanted to work

506
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 2: out in terms of timing. But I agree with you overall.

507
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 2: And you know how old does it make you feel, Luke,

508
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,919
Speaker 2: that when Aaron Blanschell was born, I was a twenty

509
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,360
Speaker 2: one year old college junior who had just decided to drop.

510
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 1: Out and major in bedpan technology. Yeah so yeah, dude.

511
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,880
Speaker 1: Remember she didn't even not only could she not name

512
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 1: a member of the Wu Tang clan, she didn't know

513
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 1: who they were.

514
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, this new generation is now, okay, all right, and

515
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,680
Speaker 2: it's now it's the new generation is now your old

516
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:25,239
Speaker 2: deal with it?

517
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 1: Okay, yep, no, I accept it. I accept it. Right.

518
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the rest of that card point number

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Speaker 1: two Here, our topic number two. So UFC Vegas sixty

520
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,880
Speaker 1: nine was this is my favorite BC. I just want

521
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 1: to point something out. Everyone always talks about, Oh, it's

522
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 1: the cards. Everyone says they're not going to be good,

523
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 1: those are the best. Nope, turns out that the car

524
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,639
Speaker 1: that we thought was gonna suck sucked all the d's.

525
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 1: I just want to point that out. We were exactly right.

526
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 1: We told you was gonna happen, and it did happen.

527
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 1: So please, let's put to bed this promoter bullshit that

528
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 1: they get you to repeat because they think you're a

529
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Speaker 1: parent that oh, it's the one you everybody's dreams on. Nope, Nope,

530
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: we slept on it for a good reason and we

531
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 1: were right. Okay that being said, BC. By the way,

532
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 1: I just want to point out we're now about to

533
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 1: ask a question about an allt like is the Is

534
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 1: William Knight's performance the worst in UFC history? Now, dude,

535
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 1: if you get knocked out in seven seconds, I suppose

536
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,719
Speaker 1: that is worse because you did, like truly less than nothing.

537
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 1: But in terms of anything that went to a decision,

538
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 1: I'm not doing a bit and I'm not trying to

539
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 1: beat up on the guy. It's just a reality. That

540
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 1: performance by William Knight BC for one that went the

541
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 1: distance is one of the worst in UFC history.

542
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 2: It just well, dude, our guys jacked. First of all,

543
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 2: I know, I know this is not his first UFC fight,

544
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 2: but uh, you know, I see Manchester, Connecticut. I'm like, yeah,

545
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 2: let's go, let's let's let's get another. Let's get fitted

546
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 2: for another member of the CT royal family. Luke, okay

547
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 2: me as the King Glover, as the you know, as

548
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 2: the whatever he wants to be. Then of course, Luke,

549
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 2: there's you know, apathy, and you know Dana was born

550
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 2: in Manchester, Connecticut too. But William Knight had a bizarre one,

551
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 2: a bizarre night. You know, he had his lead leg

552
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,120
Speaker 2: was ft up early, but he committed to a very

553
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 2: comical style to protect it the rest of the way.

554
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 2: This is three straight losses. Luke, do you think he

555
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 2: he's got a one way ticket out of the UFC now,

556
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 2: because I don't know how you justify any part of

557
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 2: that except for dude knows where the gym is and

558
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 2: you know, congratulations, he's looking good, Luke, looking good at me.

559
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 1: Listen, he looks like he's strong as balls from everything.

560
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,679
Speaker 1: We know he's strong as balls. I'm not wishing on

561
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 1: him unemployment. But like you know, listen, we beat up

562
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 1: on the UFC a lot, and we criticized them a lot. They're,

563
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 1: you know, the eight hundred pound gorilla in the room,

564
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 1: and so for that reason, they're going to catch a

565
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 1: lot of strays. But we should also just be honest

566
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,919
Speaker 1: when like they get messed with. If you're the promoter,

567
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 1: you are well within your right to release someone when

568
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: they turn into performance like this, to say nothing of

569
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 1: the fact that there's this is the is it the

570
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Speaker 1: third consecutive loss? Is that what you said?

571
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 2: Yeah?

572
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,679
Speaker 1: Third straight? Yeah, yeah, I mean they're well within their

573
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 1: rights to let him go again. I don't wish that

574
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 1: upon him. I don't think that's something that it doesn't

575
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,239
Speaker 1: bring me joy to say, but you just this is

576
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 1: this is the highest level of prize fighting. This is

577
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 1: that performance. And I'm not saying anything. He doesn't know

578
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: the performance is unacceptable. It's unacceptable. So that was really weird.

579
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 1: It almost made me feel like he was like I

580
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,199
Speaker 1: don't think it was intentional, but like, how do you

581
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 1: do that for that long without it being intentional? Something

582
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 1: has to be like really off with you. And if

583
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 1: that's the case, we see you shouldn't be fighting. You

584
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: should figure out what's going on internally to get right

585
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 1: so something bad doesn't really happen.

586
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 2: I mean, we had the Beverly Hills Ninja and the

587
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 2: Cole main event, despite having lost three or four all

588
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 2: by stoppage coming in, So, Luke, I would say that

589
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 2: outside of the main event and outside of the spirited

590
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 2: brawl that Alexander Hernandez and the great veteran Jim Miller

591
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 2: put on this entire card gets the William Knight treatment

592
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 2: from me. I just don't. I didn't understand it, and

593
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 2: it wasn't entertaining.

594
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 1: So there you go, very quickly. Any thoughts on Alexander

595
00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: Hernandez beating Jim Miller.

596
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 2: It was fun to watch. Uh, Hernandez still gets hit

597
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 2: a lot. I get criticized often by my friends on

598
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 2: the CBS Sports Combat editorial team for once making the

599
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 2: statement that Hernandez has some legitimate upper bound potential here

600
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 2: in this division. Luke, Okay, you know I've made bad

601
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 2: picks before. Follow me on, ok bet, all right, but

602
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 2: you know he got the job done. I picked him

603
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 2: to win. That was all good. But uh yeah, I mean,

604
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 2: what do you want me to say about this UFC

605
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 2: Fight Night card, Luke, It's it sucked.

606
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 1: Well, I'll say this, this was one of the better

607
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 1: wins of Hernandez's career. Now, obviously if you go back

608
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 1: to his two fight debut against Oam and then Banil d'arus, yeah,

609
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: that's a lot better. He just he just one punched

610
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: Baniel Darius. That's amazing. But since then it's been to

611
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 1: put it lightly up and down. This was the and

612
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: he took us on short notice. For him to take

613
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: it on short notice, go back to one fifty five,

614
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: which I do think is the better way, class form

615
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: no matter what he says, and to jab Jim Miller's

616
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 1: face for three rounds, beat him up, put decent footwork,

617
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 1: actually good footwork together, not make a ton of mistakes,

618
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: and even when mistakes were made, not compounding them with

619
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: other mistakes, like just limiting the damage to what it

620
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: was getting out of bad spots like that You're Nikad

621
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 1: choke attempt in the third. I thought this was a

622
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: really nice performance from Alexander Hernandez. I thought I think

623
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: he deserves some credit for dude, I tell you what, man,

624
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: I lost a lot of confidence in him after that

625
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 1: Billy Q performance. This was majorly restorative to me.

626
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 2: Well, I mean in that Billy Q fight, he was

627
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 2: having big moments. I mean it was a shootout, Luke,

628
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 2: and he.

629
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Speaker 1: He faded so bad. He didn't fade here.

630
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 2: No, and for him to get out of this choke

631
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 2: at the end showed the fighting spirit in him. I

632
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 2: thought he deserved the win. It's a good win for

633
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 2: Alexander Hernandez, but you know, it was also closer maybe

634
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 2: than it should have been, even with respect for you

635
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 2: know what Jimmler has accomplished, and he's a tough out

636
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 2: for anybody in the middle of the pack here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, Luke, the card sucked. Okay, Okay, last

638
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: thing I'm gonna say. One of the ones I did pick,

639
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: despite doing like I usually don't do any I tried

640
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,959
Speaker 1: not to do a pick without some measure of tape study,

641
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: but sometimes it does happen. The one pick I got

642
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: the most right on a okay bet was I picked?

643
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,959
Speaker 1: I think Felipe A lins to stop osp or at

644
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: least that went to end in the stoppage pretty quickly,

645
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: and it did. But even then, dude, it ended much

646
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 1: quicker than even I thought it was going to didn't

647
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 1: even go a minute. Felipe Lens just punches. I think

648
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 1: he punched out OSP's lights and he couldn't last very

649
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: long at all. It was a disaster BC. We look

650
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: at his record of late, it's just been a lot

651
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 1: of not great. Yeah, I was playing nine years of

652
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 1: age time to retire.

653
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 2: I think it is, and I was playing football games.

654
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 2: In terms of the betting, you know, I've I've bet

655
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 2: I've bet against o SP so many times only to

656
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 2: se him knock people out and surprise you. This wasn't

657
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 2: one of those moments we can see the finish coming

658
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 2: up on. Have you seen this shit? But yeah, Luke,

659
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 2: it's the end of the line. He's already done the

660
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 2: heavyweight experiment. Big win, you know, good, good stoppage for

661
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 2: Felipe Lens. It was early. He gets a big name

662
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 2: on his resume. But you know, uh, I guess that

663
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 2: was the bright spot of the of the pri may cars.

664
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 2: Unless you like to be fair, the fight that got

665
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 2: Fight of the Night honors was the preliminary featured bout

666
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 2: between Nazim Sodakov and Evan Elder and I don't know

667
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 2: if you saw v An Elder's celebration afterwards when he

668
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 2: got the bonus and he was crying in the hotel room,

669
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 2: and it was you know, it was a nice moment there.

670
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 2: He got stopped on cuts in the third round. But

671
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 2: you know the fact that you're continuously trying to get

672
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 2: me to break down this card against my own will Luke,

673
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 2: you know it's it's it's it's going to cause a

674
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 2: divide between us.

675
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I did put these questions in the rundown,

676
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: which you did hand to prove. I just want to

677
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 1: be very clear. Look, I did, I did. I did.

678
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: All right. With that in MINDBC, let's actually move over

679
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 1: to boxing if we can. Topic number three. This was

680
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: an interesting one. So Lee Wood, who had that amazing

681
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: win where he knocked Mick Conlin out of the ring

682
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: after McK conlin early put it on him. He was

683
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: back in action this weekend. Ben Davison, the former trainer

684
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: for Tyson Fury in his corner and Lee Wood and

685
00:31:55,920 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 1: Mauricio Latta were having a great fight, BC, wouldn't you agree?

686
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: In fact, Lee Wood was down at times early and

687
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: I think battled back a lot and had a great

688
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: run through the course of this fight, I believe was

689
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: up on the judges' scorecards when the towel was thrown,

690
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 1: and that's just it. He gets dropped badly, BC, very badly.

691
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: I wonder if we have the highlights release pictures of it.

692
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: I'd love to see if we could show it.

693
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 2: It was a horrible, horrible.

694
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: Punch that put him down and he looked to be

695
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: in dire straits. He did get up kind of answered

696
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: the bell, but then Ben Davison threw the towel fight

697
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: over Mauricio Lara wins. There was a lot of debate

698
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: inside boxing about whether or not Ben Davison, who by

699
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: the way, doesn't have an elite prize fighting background himself

700
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: as a competitor. Certainly as a trainer he does, but

701
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,719
Speaker 1: as a competitor he does not throws this towel, and

702
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: so the question was was it too early? Leewood gets

703
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: on Twitter yesterday and says, I agree with it, even

704
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: though in real time he was incensed at the idea

705
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: of the fight being stopped. Having gone back and looked

706
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: at it, was Ben Davison right to throw the towel.

707
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 2: I mean, look, you always want to lean in this

708
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 2: dangerous sport on the side of caution. And if a

709
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 2: trainer is knowing his fighter and pulling him early, would

710
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 2: you rather have that than the opposite? Think, you know

711
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 2: Raquel Pennington against Amanda Newness and the big debate that

712
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 2: came out of that. Yeah, So if this is him

713
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 2: knowing his fighter, then I get it. But the situation

714
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 2: kind of does matter. This was a title fight. It

715
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 2: was a back and forth war between two punchers. You

716
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 2: mentioned it would got rocked early, got hit with bombs,

717
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 2: but put together a nice three four five round run

718
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 2: there where he was landing the more telling bows. He

719
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 2: had a cutover his left eye from an accidental headbutt,

720
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 2: but when he got dropped it was a rocket left hook.

721
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 2: There's no question about it, an absolute kind of finish,

722
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 2: your type of punch. Would did get right back up,

723
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 2: got on his feet, beat the ten count. Did he

724
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 2: look a little bit weary. Yes, But here's where in

725
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 2: some cases the scenario does matter. This was round seven

726
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 2: of a twelve round championship fight. Wood was up on

727
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 2: the scorecards and there was ten seconds to go in

728
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 2: the round. So could Laura have jumped in and you know,

729
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 2: badly finished what off? Yes, it's possible. It's just as

730
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 2: possible that Wood could have held, gotten to the end

731
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 2: of the round, got the one minute break in between,

732
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 2: got revived and came back out. Is that, you know,

733
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 2: dangerous in the long run? Well yeah, but that's prize

734
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 2: fighting right here. This is a world title about you know,

735
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 2: WBA featherweight title on the line here at featherweight, A

736
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 2: spirited battle between the two. Did it feel premature in

737
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 2: the moment? Absolutely? As his fighter was summoned to restart,

738
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 2: Davison fired the towel, hit the referee right in the

739
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 2: chest and that was the end of it. A fight

740
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 2: this good, a fight this big for Wood who had

741
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,720
Speaker 2: upset Conlin, and we know Josh Warrington's in this picture

742
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 2: as a former champion who got upset by by Laura,

743
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 2: and we know there's a lot of big options here

744
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 2: until let's give credit to Eddie Hern his own you know,

745
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 2: they made this fight feel a lot bigger than it was,

746
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 2: and the promotion and also in terms of watching it,

747
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 2: it was a fun ass fight. I did feel like

748
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 2: it was too early. But if this was Ben Davison

749
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 2: who was a foot and a half away from his

750
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 2: fighter when he got dropped, seeing something protecting him for

751
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 2: the future. You can't overly criticize that. You really just can't.

752
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 2: But yeah, Luke, it felt like he had more to give.

753
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 2: The fight was in the balance. It was a big fight,

754
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 2: a fun one man that was tough for me to

755
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,479
Speaker 2: see Lee would get that even if it was more

756
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 2: likely than not percentage wise, that he wasn't gonna win

757
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 2: that fight.

758
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: And I think he was up fifty nine to fifty

759
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: five on all three judges scorecards at the time of

760
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: the stoppage. Here's my only thing, b Se And I

761
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: don't know if this is true. I don't know if

762
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 1: they'll ever this will ever beach. I'm literally just inventing something.

763
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: But it makes me wonder if you just look at

764
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: the circumstances of the seventh both in terms of where

765
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: Wood was in the fight and being ahead at that point,

766
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 1: as well as to your point about ten seconds left

767
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: being in the round, then yeah, like the stoppage does

768
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: feel like a little paternalistic. I do wonder about whether

769
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: or not it had been hurt in training previously. In

770
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: other words, like he gets dropped with this huge punch

771
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: and we can both agree it. Honestly, BC, I don't

772
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: know if you agree with this, It looked to me

773
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 1: like the punch flat put him out and then him

774
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: hit his head hitting the canvas may have just woken

775
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: him up, because that was a galacious punch. I wonder

776
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 1: if he'd been knocked out and sparring previously. I wonder

777
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: if he'd been hurt in training recently. And then Davison

778
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,399
Speaker 1: saw this and was like, Nope, fuck that, dude. We're

779
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: talking about real bad brain injury after this, and even

780
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,720
Speaker 1: though there was ten seconds through it, Like, in other words,

781
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: what are the circumstances that have to be there for

782
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: a guy to throw it when he has ten seconds left?

783
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 1: One either a bad decision or at least a hasty

784
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 1: one at a bare minimum, right, hard to call anything

785
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: preserving the brain bad, but maybe hasty for the circumstances.

786
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 1: Or he knows of something that happened previously where this

787
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: was then adding onto that, and he just couldn't abide

788
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: by it by virtue of what consequences could be ahead.

789
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 2: It was in the corner where standing. So to the

790
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,240
Speaker 2: point you made, if he watched his fighter get rocked

791
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 2: and then kind of hit his head and bounce back

792
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 2: into it, is that enough reason to save the guy. Yeah,

793
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 2: if you want to play that angle, if you want

794
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 2: to play the humanity side, the safe side. Yes, it's

795
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 2: just hard because look the round before he had rock

796
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 2: Laura Wood had landed a huge shot, and you know,

797
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 2: this became a two way standing war, you know. I

798
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 2: mean it's still had elements of a boxing match. It

799
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 2: wasn't rock em Sockam, but they were going in there

800
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 2: to close the distance and land bombs. Title fight. I

801
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 2: don't know. You take that risk, That's what we've done

802
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 2: in the history of boxing. You take that risk. But

803
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 2: to your point, to the things we may not know,

804
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 2: I mean, Davidson is some I like Ben Davison a lot.

805
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 2: I think it's a good personality. I love the breakdowns

806
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 2: that he does when he's used on television as an analyst.

807
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 2: But to your point, Luke, he didn't have this big

808
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 2: fighting career himself. He kind of got picked out of

809
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 2: the scrum by Tyson Fury to become the lead trainer

810
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 2: when he was just twenty five and part of the

811
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 2: extended team. And I do really believe that he's a

812
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 2: smart trainer, especially defensively. The work he did with Tyson

813
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 2: in that first Deontay Wilder fight is a great example

814
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 2: of that. But he's very young, doesn't have a long

815
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 2: detailed track record. I think people love to criticize him

816
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 2: quickly in that regard. If you're going old school, you

817
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,399
Speaker 2: can criticize him in this case. And you know, good

818
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,800
Speaker 2: for Leewood to get the back of his trainer afterwards

819
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 2: and realize he was trying to protect him and you

820
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 2: know he will fight again. Luke, you can sustain serious

821
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,959
Speaker 2: injury when you get back up and you're still out

822
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 2: on your feet and you're still going to fight like.

823
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 2: No one's gonna sit here and say, you know and

824
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 2: debate the danger in that. It's just that that's boxing

825
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,760
Speaker 2: and this was a title fight, so you can understand

826
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,879
Speaker 2: both sides of the argument for sure.

827
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: Okay, here's the part that does get me. So after

828
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: the fight was over, there was again you've watched Lee

829
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 1: Wood's initial reaction. He was not he didn't understand it,

830
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 1: which by the way, should also play a role in

831
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: how much we assess the quality of the stoppage. But

832
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 1: he afterwards took to social media and says he understands

833
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 1: it and respect it and actually even appreciates it. BC

834
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 1: is it not impossible for you to imagine a scenario

835
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 1: in MMA where not only does the fighter come out

836
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 1: afterwards and defend the stoppage via towel throwing, does it

837
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: with a trainer who never basically fought let's say, at

838
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: the UFC level at all whatsoever? Like I can't even

839
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 1: fathom that in MMA, and yet it just actually happened

840
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 1: in boxing. Why why is that so impossible in this sport?

841
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 2: In MMA, that there that there's not a quicker trigger?

842
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 2: Is that what you're saying? No, no, No.

843
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,399
Speaker 1: The point I'm trying to make here is like it's

844
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: one thing that you get a guy to come out

845
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,240
Speaker 1: and be like, wow, this is really I respect my trainer.

846
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: Even that alone is unusual MMA, but we kind of

847
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: had that debate. But to have it with a trainer

848
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: who basically doesn't have any of the same commensurate at

849
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: prize fighting experience, like just a guy who's just a

850
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: coach who never really competed in any kind of way

851
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,919
Speaker 1: similar to this, Like that all of those things never

852
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: exist in MMA, and I'm trying to figure out why

853
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 1: all of those factors are true.

854
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 2: I Mean, there have been elite coaches that weren't great

855
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:08,720
Speaker 2: fighters MMA, though, to be fair.

856
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 1: Right, like who Greg Jackson?

857
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 2: I guess for us hobby, was he a great fighter? Luke?

858
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 1: I didn't know, but he has a black bell under

859
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 1: John Danaher. Okay, he did fight a little bit.

860
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess I get the spirit of the point.

861
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 2: I thought you were asking more on a danger level.

862
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 2: Maybe because boxing we see we actually see that's in

863
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 2: the ring almost to an accepted level. I mean, obviously

864
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 2: it's a monster tragedy each time it happens. But I'm

865
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 2: not gonna lie when people criticize boxing media afterwards for

866
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,399
Speaker 2: kind of not following up on these stories and moving

867
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 2: on to the next fight. I think sometimes we do

868
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,919
Speaker 2: that to survive Luke. As gnarly as that sounds, because

869
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 2: it's so overwhelming when it happened. So from that side

870
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 2: of it, again, if this was a trainer just knowing

871
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 2: his fighter and not wanting to see him get badly hurt,

872
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 2: none of us should have any issue with that. I

873
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 2: understand that. Maybe that's why an MMA, they're they're less

874
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 2: as likely to to throw in the towel and do that.

875
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 2: But I mean, I don't think we ever see the

876
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 2: towwel throwing in them and may do it.

877
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: Ever, very rarely it happens, but very rarely.

878
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 2: You know, stoppages in the corner between rounds, for sure,

879
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 2: but not you know.

880
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, you see, let's get to let's get to a

881
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: little BKFC. We don't do a lot of BKFC.

882
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 2: But they had a wild night. They had a wild

883
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 2: stricken knight.

884
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: So topic number four, let's talk about BKFC. Knucklemania three

885
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: took place I think in right around Albuquerque, New Mexico. Uh,

886
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 1: there's a lot to get to here. We'll go to

887
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: the three biggest ones right away. BC. Diego Sanchez loses

888
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,919
Speaker 1: yet again, this time to Austin Trout. Now he didn't

889
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: get stopped with punches, he got stopped with cuts. But

890
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: the cuts, of course, were caused from punches. He accuses

891
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 1: Austin Trout of greasing. Let's say, UBC, is it time

892
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 1: for Diego Sanchez to really just hang it up?

893
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been time. It's been time. Some guys like

894
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 2: you know, what's that saying that you see sometimes Luke

895
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 2: printed on military things of you know, all gave some,

896
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 2: but some gave all, like Diego's Sanchez gave all and

897
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 2: basically every single fight he was a part of. So

898
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:08,720
Speaker 2: while other fighters were more accepting of saying, okay, it's

899
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,879
Speaker 2: your twilight's twilight. There's a couple of paydays out there

900
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 2: for you if you want them, so go do celebrity boxing,

901
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,800
Speaker 2: Go do bare knuckle, go do whatever the hell you want.

902
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 2: I think in Diego Sanchez's case, I mean, look, one

903
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 2: thing that I don't think he gets the credit for

904
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 2: that he kind of should is is you know, like

905
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 2: Jim Miller, Matt Brown right now, he was able to

906
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 2: linger and be relevant for a while and actually win

907
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,439
Speaker 2: some fights, maybe he shouldn't have to stay around. But Luke,

908
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:36,800
Speaker 2: comparatively to other guys, I mean, he's taken an extreme

909
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 2: amount of punishment going back to his initial prime, which

910
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 2: was such the early days of the sport that it

911
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 2: was more about two guys just running into each other.

912
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 2: At some point, somebody's got to step in and say, like,

913
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 2: not just commission shouldn't approve this, but you know, as

914
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 2: a whole the fight community shouldn't approve this. You know,

915
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 2: how much is too much before you're just gonna be like, yeah,

916
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 2: he's probably and it's probably gonna end badly for him.

917
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 2: But just go out there and do what you want. No,

918
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 2: it's not about being competitive anymore. It's not about that

919
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 2: he lasted to the fourth round until the cuts happened,

920
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 2: and I mean it got beat up again. Luke. You

921
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 2: know how far away is Diego Sanchez's situation right now

922
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 2: from Bigfootsilvera. How far away? Luke?

923
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 1: There are some meaningful differences, but I see your point.

924
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: That's not a huge gap, okay.

925
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,280
Speaker 2: So, like, the fight game has to end eventually, whether

926
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 2: you can spin it off into a career as a trainer, jim, owner,

927
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 2: broadcaster or not. The fight game's got to end for

928
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 2: everybody at some point. It's not as what do they

929
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 2: always say, Luke, it's not a career, it's an opportunity.

930
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: Right. It's like, well that's what Dana says. That's not

931
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,240
Speaker 1: what everybody says. That's okay, his way of underpaying everything.

932
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 2: I certainly get that. But when you look at the

933
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 2: average for like careers, you know the same thing in

934
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 2: the NFL, right, what's the average NFL career? I don't

935
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 2: I don't know the stat off him, but you used

936
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 2: to hear that was like two years, Luke, three years

937
00:43:56,719 --> 00:44:00,320
Speaker 2: something like that. I mean, you can only take so much.

938
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 2: This guy's given so much to the game. I mean,

939
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 2: he's a Hall of Fame personality. He's in the Hall

940
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 2: of Fame for having a great fight. He's kind of

941
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 2: a borderline hall of Famer to begin with. Just for

942
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 2: how long he's there. I wish there was another way.

943
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,439
Speaker 2: I wish there was another career he could bounce back into,

944
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:21,280
Speaker 2: because it's not fun for us to watch this, Luke.

945
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 1: No, it's not great. Yeah. The answer, of course is

946
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: he should have retired quite some time ago. Do you know,

947
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: I don't have much to say about Austin Trout or

948
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: the greasing controversy. I just at this point it's like

949
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 1: not that I if it's true then then yeah, of course

950
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: there would be a problem. But it's like, I'm so

951
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 1: uninterested in the idea of Diego Sanchez continuing to take

952
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: punishment that I almost don't even care if that makes sense, Like,

953
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: just just end it, just.

954
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 2: I mean, sadly, Luke, if no one ends it for him,

955
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 2: he's going to end up in power slap. He's going

956
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 2: to end up in power slap people like this is

957
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 2: the direction it goes, So, you know, I mean.

958
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: Is there do you have one boxer who you feel

959
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: like particularly fell off like or hung on too long.

960
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: You could pick any number of them, but it's a

961
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: million that sticks with you.

962
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 2: Many of our heroes, Okay, James, Tony, Roy Jones Junior.

963
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 2: I mean, how many of them, Luke to different degrees

964
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 2: of the long term effects that they put their body through. Right,

965
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 2: everybody's body is different for so many different reasons in

966
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 2: your brain as well. But I mean those are just

967
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 2: two that jumped off, but a million. There's a million, long,

968
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,280
Speaker 2: drawn out bad stories in boxing. There's so many stories

969
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 2: where a guy was at once in their early peak

970
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 2: prime a contender, but then just settled in being a

971
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 2: journeyman for the rest of their career, and they fought

972
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,240
Speaker 2: until they're fifty despite twenty five losses. Like that happens

973
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 2: a lot too, Luke, And I don't know, I just

974
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 2: it's it's like BKFC just had a great weekend. I know,

975
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 2: we're leading off with this co main event. They just

976
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 2: had a great weekend. Look that, I mean, you know,

977
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 2: I finished up Friday Showbox Card, went back to the

978
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 2: hotel room. My entire timeline was viral. BKFC highlights. They

979
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 2: had a last weekend. But should we even be looking

980
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 2: at Dave Feldman a company and saying, like some guys

981
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 2: we just shouldn't be employing anymore.

982
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: Yes, I think it's time for BKFC. And you know

983
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: it's fine that they wanted to put two guys from

984
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:16,879
Speaker 1: Albuquerque in different sports together, you know, sort of as

985
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: like a hometown thing like the I get the promotional

986
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 1: angle is actually pretty smart, but you just have to

987
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 1: be you have to exercise more discretion about what what

988
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: fighters you're employing and at what time in their career.

989
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 2: B C quickly for Austin Trout, what do you think

990
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:36,479
Speaker 2: about welterweight BKFC champion Louis Palomino calling him out saying

991
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 2: he wants to give him a title shot.

992
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: That I've said this too. That okay, so BKFC. Everyone

993
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: wants to make it all about bad news, but there's

994
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 1: good news too. Luis Palomino is a guy who you know,

995
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 1: if you watched MM a long time ago, you would

996
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: know who he is, but maybe these days you might not.

997
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:51,760
Speaker 1: Never was able to make it to the UFC because

998
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:55,879
Speaker 1: he was here as an illegal immigrant for a time

999
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: and now he is obviously all that that's gone but

1000
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: you know it, doesn't have to worry about it. But

1001
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 1: he couldn't get legal status. He needed to fight in

1002
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: the UFC, even though he was really ready for it.

1003
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 1: For him to have this second win in his career,

1004
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 1: now that his life is settled and everything is above

1005
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 1: board and where it should be, I love it's he's

1006
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,359
Speaker 1: an action fighter. He's a fan favorite for those who

1007
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: understand his game. And yeah, let's bring on Austin Trott.

1008
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,760
Speaker 1: And again, we don't really exactly know how well boxers

1009
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 1: will do in bare knuckle. Austin Trott doesn't give us

1010
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 1: the best answer, but he gives us yet more information

1011
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: about which to make an answer. I'm all in favor

1012
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 1: of it.

1013
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 2: Look big, have you seen this? Shit will include some

1014
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 2: of this. But the one video that got failed was

1015
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 2: the John Dotson win. He had yet another knockout win

1016
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 2: and then did the backflip to celebrate. He's two and zero.

1017
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:43,399
Speaker 2: Now he stopped Jared kid Gotti. Grant, some guys have

1018
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 2: it seems figured it out and made a nice adjustment here.

1019
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 2: I mean, Dotson's kind of like a guy that can

1020
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,280
Speaker 2: build around and I could see him winning the title

1021
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 2: in this in this bracket.

1022
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: Dodson is very much a guy who I think is

1023
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 1: a great signing for BKFC. He's still fast, He's gonna

1024
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: be fast, faster than a lot of the guys he

1025
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 1: goes up against because he was a great athlete. He

1026
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 1: always had power. I mean from day one, I was

1027
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: actually you may not know this BC. So one of

1028
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 1: the first big flyweight fights that happened after the Ultimate

1029
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 1: Fighter was one that I called. It was a fight

1030
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: between John Dotson and a guy by the name of

1031
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: Pat Runiez. Pat Runiez was actually went to Demitrius Johnson's

1032
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 1: training partners for a long time out there in Washington State,

1033
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 1: and it kind of funny it went the way that

1034
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 1: I believe the first fight with the DJ went where

1035
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 1: Runyez got hurt bad by some of the power punching

1036
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 1: from Dotson, but then was able to storm back and

1037
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,399
Speaker 1: win a five round decision. So I'm you know, it's

1038
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 1: in fight that Dotson lost, but it was one of

1039
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: my first introductions to like the kind of power he

1040
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 1: can offer. It was incredible. In any case, dude, he

1041
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,879
Speaker 1: still has big power. He's always had big power. He's

1042
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 1: still pretty fast, he's still pretty athletic. Especially for this

1043
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 1: level of competition. He beat the guy in a minute

1044
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 1: in forty one seconds into the first round. Hard to

1045
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:01,839
Speaker 1: know what not to like from John Donson, by the way,

1046
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 1: also had a pretty good chin for a long time too.

1047
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, continue on to Greg Hardy in the main event,

1048
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 2: did you see the fans asked Eric Nixon to share

1049
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 2: the text exchange you had with him at the MK

1050
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 2: and the UK Live show and he did that, did Yes?

1051
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 2: What a team player? Old old Eric Knisak is.

1052
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I see what you're doing. I see what

1053
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: you're doing. You're doing skits and bits. You don't have

1054
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: to be because let's talk about it very quickly. Greg

1055
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: Hardy losing very badly in the second round. Nineteen seconds

1056
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 1: of round two, he gets absolutely flat lined by this

1057
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 1: gentleman who looks like, I don't know what his life

1058
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,439
Speaker 1: story is. Josh Watson's been through some shit.

1059
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, When you say been through some shit, do

1060
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:47,280
Speaker 2: you mean the walls of some penitentiaries or what maybe

1061
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 2: I mean? Luke So Hardy got knocked down and then

1062
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 2: he got knocked flat the hell out. Let's just I mean,

1063
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 2: you know, people are coming here to see this. This

1064
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 2: was a big night for MMA Twitter, they seem to

1065
00:49:58,400 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 2: have loved this, Luke.

1066
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: There was lots of people with lots of f Greg

1067
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,359
Speaker 1: Hardy tweets that I saw.

1068
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 2: I mean, is it over for him?

1069
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 1: Well?

1070
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 2: Can we have a conversation here, like how much are

1071
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 2: we allowed to hold Greg Hardy's past against him? I mean,

1072
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 2: you could just not like him as a fighter or

1073
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 2: a personality, but there seemed to be a large celebration

1074
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 2: to him losing in this manner? Is it?

1075
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: So? The issue with Greg Hardy is I mean, first

1076
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 1: of all, for like people who've done horrible shit in MMA,

1077
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 1: Greg Hardy certainly is like on the list, but he

1078
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 1: would you know, he's got company, got plenty of company.

1079
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 1: Let's just be honest about that. But I think the

1080
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 1: reason that people really hold on to it is because

1081
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 1: he didn't really ever face like a ton of consequences

1082
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 1: about it. Obviously, his at his life kind of spiraled

1083
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 1: in a very unfortunate direction for him, and you know,

1084
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 1: whatever opportunities he had the National Football League he couldn't

1085
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 1: really hold on to. Although a lot of that was

1086
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 1: obviously self imposed as well. But the point being is like,

1087
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 1: in terms of like the judicial system, he never really

1088
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 1: faced any consequences, and he's never really owned up to it.

1089
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: He's always been like, you know, he's tried to Like

1090
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 1: I definitely don't think he's doing messed up stuff. Now

1091
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 1: he seems to have like at least gotten that part

1092
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: of his life, like day to day, I'm going to

1093
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 1: be better about it. But in terms of atoning for

1094
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 1: the mistake, he seems rather resistant to the idea. And

1095
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: I think that's what's rubbed people the wrong way.

1096
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 2: That's fair, that's fair. I mean I feel like in

1097
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:19,720
Speaker 2: a lot of his interviews he said the right things.

1098
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 2: I also feel like he's I don't know, he's a

1099
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 2: little cringe on the microphone, and people add that into

1100
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 2: the mix of what they don't like about him. He's,

1101
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 2: you know, he's doing a boxing thing on the side.

1102
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 2: This was his first BKFC fight. Is there still gas

1103
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 2: in the tank in something with the name value where

1104
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 2: he could go on to find some level of success

1105
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 2: in some form of combat sports, Probably Luke, But damn,

1106
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 2: he ran into a tattooed, bald headed man and he

1107
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 2: got sent to the dark depth. So deal with that

1108
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 2: result as you may, based on your own you know,

1109
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,879
Speaker 2: moral compass. People are like putting him on trial over this.

1110
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 2: It was one fight he got hammered out, Luke. But

1111
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 2: can we talk about this main event, talk about this

1112
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 2: light heavyweight title unification and it's to be fair, let's

1113
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 2: talk to BKFC for real. Outside of like Page Van's

1114
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 2: ant parachuting in or Pauli Malanaji against the goat Artem Loboff,

1115
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 2: or it's something weird like that, we cover this, but

1116
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 2: we tend to cover it as like more on like

1117
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 2: the have you seen the shit angle of it? Because

1118
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 2: it is combat circus for a lot of it. But

1119
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 2: this is where I gotta give Dave Feldman a BKFC

1120
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 2: credit and the fighters involved the build to this light

1121
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 2: heavyweight unification main event between the champion, Lorenzo Hunt the

1122
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 2: interim title holder Mike Richmond. I mean, look, it was

1123
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 2: straight out of pro wrestling. It grabbed my attention multiple times.

1124
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 2: There was like multiple public incidents where they got in

1125
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 2: each other's face and fought and did crazy shit. They

1126
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 2: had to go in there and then have the fight

1127
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 2: that they did for one round in which Hunt got

1128
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 2: massively dropped and then got directly back off and within

1129
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 2: five seconds flatlined Mike Richmond bravo to everyone involved. This

1130
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 2: main event got you know, even separate from Diego Sanchez

1131
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 2: in that circus. This got people actually buying and tuning

1132
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 2: in because it was juicy, it was evenly matched, and

1133
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 2: we got, as far as BKFC is concerned, an instant

1134
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 2: classic here. And this was a major part of this

1135
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 2: fight card becoming so viral and must see after the fact,

1136
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 2: I got to give them a lot of credit. And

1137
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:20,879
Speaker 2: Hunt went on the microphone afterwards he said he wants

1138
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 2: the winner of Arnold Adams versus Alan Belcher. Next we

1139
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:28,919
Speaker 2: know he's got an ongoing beef with Hector Lombard. Still, look,

1140
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 2: BKFC is doing something right here. They do something right

1141
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:33,280
Speaker 2: with the with the women and the and the content,

1142
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,439
Speaker 2: you know, and the build up around the cattiness. Luke,

1143
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 2: they do cattiness well in BKFC. They did well here too,

1144
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:40,720
Speaker 2: So you got to give him that credit.

1145
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 1: Dude, Dave Filman is a talented promoter. Like it's not

1146
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 1: that I don't think he's got some skills, or that

1147
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: there's not viability to the products. There seems to be

1148
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 1: a lane for it. It's it's meaningfully different, right, It's

1149
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:56,399
Speaker 1: meaningfully different from boxing. It's meaningfully different from MMA, and

1150
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,240
Speaker 1: and there seems to be something that can hold people

1151
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 1: and attention and he is good at using that space.

1152
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: Now he's also, you know, made some questionable calls and

1153
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 1: it's not above criticism, but in general, I agree with you.

1154
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 1: I thought I thought this event delivered. I did the Uh,

1155
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 1: what's the show? I can't comeber in any name anymore.

1156
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 1: The Jed Mishu and Mike Kek between the links BTL, Yeah, yeah, BTL.

1157
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 1: I did the show with them and they were asking

1158
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: what would you rather watch? This was like on Thursday

1159
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: or something, and they were like, what would you rather watch? BKFC?

1160
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 1: Would you rather watch this particular UFC card? And I

1161
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 1: was like, dude, BKFC, I think that that that was

1162
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 1: a justified call in the I.

1163
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 2: Don't think that's ever happened before, and it's and it

1164
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 2: happened right there. And by the way, not lost on me.

1165
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 2: You going on that show with two guys I like

1166
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 2: a lot, but you returning to MMA fighting. Look, I

1167
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 2: was happy to see that.

1168
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's probably a one and done if I'm just

1169
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 1: being honest, but U, but I do like those guys

1170
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:47,839
Speaker 1: and they do.

1171
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this because I mentioned who Hunt

1172
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 2: called out, but I didn't add the proper context to that.

1173
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 2: So Lamar Hunt is the He was the cruiserweight champion already,

1174
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 2: then he won the BKFC Light heavyweight Championship. He just

1175
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 2: unified it here against Mike Richmond in a one round thriller,

1176
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 2: and now he wants to move up and become the

1177
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 2: heavyweight champion against the winner of Adams and Belcher. Is

1178
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 2: Lamar Hunt having this twilight of a potential three division

1179
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:16,439
Speaker 2: championship run in BKFC, Like, is that anything? Look at something? Right?

1180
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 2: It's pretty cool.

1181
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:18,839
Speaker 1: It's something. I'm not sure what it is. I've given

1182
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 1: that less than zero thought. You're only introducing this to

1183
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: me for the first time, so I don't know what

1184
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 1: to say. I have to think about it. But to

1185
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 1: your point, man, like, they've got interesting guys, they've got

1186
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:31,319
Speaker 1: interesting rivalries. Not all of it works, some of it

1187
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 1: doesn't work, and some of it is nauseating, but a

1188
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 1: lot of it is kind of interesting. It's a mixed bag.

1189
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: It's not just all bad or you know, in many

1190
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 1: cases all good for highlights. It's a weird Mogelman. They're

1191
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 1: trying to trying to figure it all out. All right,

1192
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 1: let's go to point number five here. This is what

1193
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 1: I meant about. Please, for the love of God, put

1194
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 1: a bow on this. Please? Can we end it here?

1195
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 1: The Western Australia Combat Commission, I believe this is the

1196
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 1: relevant athletic mission in obviously Western Australia AKA in this

1197
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 1: particular case, Perth released a report but I think just

1198
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 1: before the weekend or on Saturday itself, detailing that to

1199
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 1: their awareness, no one in the UFC two eighty four

1200
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 1: card broke any rules related to weightcutting or anything else.

1201
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 1: And Jeff Devinsky got out there. He was asked about

1202
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 1: it by Brenda Fitzgerald and he was like, yeah, I mean,

1203
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 1: I'm sure what else you want us to say? So

1204
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 1: let's recap b See, there's been no formal complaint Lodge

1205
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 1: that we're aware of. The three regulatory agencies, the promotional

1206
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:33,839
Speaker 1: entity in the two regulatory agencies have all said that,

1207
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 1: you know, here's what the best information that we have.

1208
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 1: No one's filed a formal complaint. We're not aware of

1209
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 1: any wrongdoing. There's been not a single shred of publicly

1210
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 1: presented evidence that, either forensic or otherwise that tells you

1211
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 1: what Islam Makachev did or did not do. Can we

1212
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:56,360
Speaker 1: finally admit that as from what we know, there's nothing

1213
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:57,320
Speaker 1: to this story?

1214
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 2: Well, the only thing we had to this story it

1215
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 2: was accusations. It seemed from Dan Hooker, you know, of course,

1216
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 2: the teammate of Volkanowski on Twitter pictures of his arm

1217
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,799
Speaker 2: zumed in with a bulging vein. Okay, it sounds. It

1218
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 2: does sound a lot like the accusation's triple G made

1219
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 2: to Canelo after the first fight, saying you can see

1220
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 2: the track marks on his arm and stomach, yet nobody cares.

1221
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 2: My question is a larger one because the fuel of

1222
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 2: the of the MK fans that we love, in respect

1223
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 2: to who challenge us the times and come out us

1224
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 2: was like, hey, guys, like it's illegal in all of Australia,

1225
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 2: So how are you guys just being okay with this?

1226
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 2: So you just said the most relevant point of we

1227
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 2: actually don't have proof. Although I've seen some people say

1228
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 2: that Eugene Bharman says he does have proof, I don't.

1229
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 2: I can't confirm that. I don't know.

1230
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 1: No, here's what I said. We don't have any publicly

1231
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 1: presented or publicly available truth In terms of what has

1232
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 1: been shown to us, there's nothing.

1233
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not naive to what an IV can do

1234
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 2: even beyond dehydration. In fact, it was Novitsky in the

1235
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 2: past who's given quotes, you know, detailed quotes about how

1236
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 2: ivs can be used to flesh out the peds in

1237
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 2: your system in a quick manner and all that. My

1238
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 2: larger question is this, though, like in terms of how

1239
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 2: much should we care or potentially villainize Mahachev, is if

1240
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 2: it's legal everywhere else with the UFC jurisdics, I'm not

1241
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 2: overly worried if it's illegal in this one country in

1242
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 2: which this champion Mahachev had to go on the road

1243
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 2: to fight the hometown guy. In that regard, I'm also

1244
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 2: you have changed me, Luke. I'm a changed man because

1245
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 2: of you. I also fully believe that almost anybody with

1246
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 2: money can beat the system, and probably is at the

1247
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 2: highest elite level anyway. So I'm to me until I

1248
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 2: see actual proof, and that can lead to some punishment

1249
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 2: even if I did have actual proof. How do you

1250
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 2: respond to that statement I made, like, can we just

1251
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 2: have universal rules on UFC shit across the board? Do

1252
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 2: you remember that a couple of years where every broadcast

1253
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 2: Annik would have to say, well, tonight, we're in this state,

1254
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 2: so we're using this state's rules based on you know,

1255
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 2: down fighter and all that shit like from drug use

1256
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 2: and testing, through actual fighting rules, through scoring. Can we

1257
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 2: just get unified across the board no matter where the

1258
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 2: fights are taking place, that it's essentially the same.

1259
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 1: Disagree?

1260
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 2: Okay? Then why why?

1261
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 1: So? I do agree that when the differences are slight,

1262
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 1: and then in certain cases like retrograde, like two hands

1263
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 1: on the mat, one hand on the mat, one hand

1264
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 1: one knee, where it becomes like hard for the fighters

1265
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 1: to follow and it's like a minor difference, but it

1266
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 1: could have a major implication. Yeah, that I don't like. That,

1267
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 1: I think is a waste of time. But I tend

1268
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:40,439
Speaker 1: to think of MMA a little bit like tennis. You've

1269
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 1: got Wimbledon, you've got the Australian Open, you've got the

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Speaker 1: New York Open, you have a clay court, you have

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00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:51,439
Speaker 1: a grass like. Well, what I'm saying is, I don't

1272
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 1: mind if there's a ring or a cage or fight,

1273
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 1: the judge it as a whole, or judge it round

1274
00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 1: by round. My only point is, once you've got the

1275
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 1: round by round system, that should be the round by

1276
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 1: round system, right. In other words, those minor differences where

1277
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 1: you go stay the state, those are highly annoying. But

1278
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 1: having different ways of fighting MMA based on scoring and

1279
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:13,959
Speaker 1: on surface, yeah, actually I think that's pretty cool.

1280
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 2: Okay, if it was a different surface. You're talking about

1281
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 2: tennis that has actual different surfaces.

1282
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 1: If like, okay, some states a ring is ninety degrees

1283
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 1: with it's like the ropes. I mean, that's you're standing

1284
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:27,439
Speaker 1: on something that has to have traction. But the point

1285
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 1: I'm trying to make is that's a very different way

1286
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 1: in which to fight someone in a in an octagon

1287
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 1: shaped cage.

1288
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 2: Okay. If the point of your argument is you you

1289
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 2: would like a world where where one promotion can be

1290
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 2: a ring, the other promotion, or one state or one

1291
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 2: country and the other areas could be a cage, and

1292
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 2: in some slight rule changes, I do think that's different

1293
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 2: than the actual spirit of what I'm saying here in

1294
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 2: regards to the medical slash testing rules. I mean, Luke,

1295
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 2: if one hundred percent, which it is, this is banned

1296
01:00:56,560 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 2: in Australia, and if there ultimately is proof that vulcan

1297
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 2: that sorry that machv used in ivy. Do you believe

1298
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 2: this should be a no contest? Do you believe this

1299
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 2: should be a him being stripped of the title? I don't.

1300
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 2: I don't. I would rather have universal rules on all

1301
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 2: of that. But I want to hear your your side

1302
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 2: of it, because I feel this is a lot of

1303
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,439
Speaker 2: angry Volkanovski fans. I'm being really honest with you, Luke.

1304
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 1: I feel this is a lot of anger, A lot

1305
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 1: of all of this. Did Volkanovski win round four or whatever?

1306
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 1: All of this I should saying A great deal of

1307
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 1: it is simply someone's a Volkanowski fan or they feel

1308
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 1: like he was wronged. So let me invest energy into

1309
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 1: any kind of way in which I can undermine the

1310
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 1: legitimacy of Makachev's victory. And of course it was close

1311
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 1: that that is a fair thing to say. It's fair

1312
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:51,920
Speaker 1: to think that Volkanovski won that under the way in

1313
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 1: which you scored it. Like we've been over that all.

1314
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 1: That's fine, But to your point, there's just a ton

1315
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 1: of protesting going on, manifesting itself in ways where like

1316
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 1: prot like being unhappy with the decision should not show up.

1317
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 1: My attitude is very, very fucking simple. If he broke

1318
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 1: the rules, or or there is reasonable evidence to conclude

1319
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 1: that he did, or there's a reasonable evidence or need

1320
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 1: for an investigation, fine do it. Punish him. But every

1321
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 1: time anyone in a position of authority is asked what's

1322
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 1: the score, not only they telling you they don't have

1323
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 1: any evidence, they're not even telling you that they have

1324
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 1: any reason to believe that there's evidence. They don't have shit,

1325
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 1: they don't have a formal complaint, they have nothing. No

1326
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 1: one has given the Commission or any of these other

1327
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 1: relevant authorities anything to go on. What do you want

1328
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 1: us to do? I'm not saying Dan Hooker has no evidence.

1329
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if he does. I'm not even saying

1330
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 1: Dan Hooker doesn't have reason to believe whatever it is

1331
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:50,920
Speaker 1: he believes. Maybe he does. But what I'm asking MMA

1332
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:55,960
Speaker 1: fans and frankly MMA media to stop doing is validating

1333
01:02:56,400 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 1: unsubstantiated claims and dragging people's fucking names through the mud

1334
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 1: that don't need to be there. It is possible that

1335
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 1: Makachev broke a rule, in which case something should be

1336
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 1: done about it, but it is equally plausible he has

1337
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 1: done absolutely nothing wrong. There's no evidence for it, and

1338
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 1: the due process of the kinds of things that you

1339
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 1: should be protected from have just been totally run over

1340
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 1: by accusations that media ran with without ever trying to

1341
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 1: substantiate any of them. First, Even if you don't think

1342
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 1: Makachev is the most sympathetic character, somebody else will be.

1343
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 1: It's about respecting the process. P see, It's about respecting

1344
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 1: like what has actually happened. What do you have to

1345
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:38,440
Speaker 1: go on to really like villainize and scrutinize someone. And

1346
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 1: if you're in the public like us, you have nothing,

1347
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 1: You have nothing to go on. Stop doing it.

1348
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 2: Okay, let me ask you this question again. What if

1349
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 2: Barman and Company can produce something that unequivocally shows proof,

1350
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 2: do you think you just changed that to a no

1351
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 2: contest and you do rematch? Do you strip them of

1352
01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 2: the title? What's fair to you in that regard?

1353
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. If i'd strip them from the title,

1354
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:04,880
Speaker 1: I'd be happy to call it a no contest. I mean,

1355
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 1: whatever penalty the Commission thinks is relevant. Listen, you have

1356
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:12,959
Speaker 1: to have rules, like I understand, rules get broken because

1357
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 1: that's also the world that we live in. But you

1358
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 1: have to have rules, and the rules have to be men.

1359
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 1: If you don't have that, you don't have anything. You

1360
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 1: don't you just have nothing. So you have you have

1361
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 1: to enforce a modicum of it. But it's like the

1362
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 1: commission is out there are telling you, we don't even

1363
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 1: have a formal complaint. What is it you want us

1364
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:28,919
Speaker 1: to do? What is it you want us to do?

1365
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 1: Is easy? Though, I want no one ever respects anyone's

1366
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 1: due process because they already decide that they're not sympathetic characters.

1367
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 1: That's the part to me that gets me.

1368
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:42,480
Speaker 2: Is it lazy to just say what I'm ultimately saying

1369
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 2: that Yosada has made decisions that have lost my credibility

1370
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 2: on them in the larger testing process in general. So

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01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 2: I'm just sort of like any debate in this area

1372
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 2: feels like all semantics.

1373
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 1: To me a little. I mean, they change these rules

1374
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 1: in twenty team, making them far more lax. All the

1375
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 1: reasons that they told us they couldn't do it, apparently

1376
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 1: they now can. But you know, this is this is

1377
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 1: the thing I keep saying to people. People think there's

1378
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 1: a Bible of anti doping, right, we know all of this.

1379
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 1: These are the sanctified rules of it. And I'm like, dude,

1380
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 1: they're just making it up as they go. I mean,

1381
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:20,440
Speaker 1: Connor is already the sanctified rules. They're making it up

1382
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 1: as they go. And they didn't even tell the public

1383
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen. Well, welcome to the Welcome to the

1384
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 1: disaster that you created. You don't even tell the media,

1385
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 1: you don't tell the public. It turns out you didn't

1386
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 1: tell the fighter at least not very well. And now

1387
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 1: this all blows up into something because you didn't do

1388
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 1: shit about it at the beginning.

1389
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 2: Ever since they moved the Jones fight from Vegas to

1390
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 2: to LA for the Gustson rematch, and just sort of like,

1391
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 2: you know, like, I mean that that was an eye

1392
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 2: opener to me, and how they dealt with the pol

1393
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 2: sing and then we're not going to release the results anymore.

1394
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 2: And I yeah, I mean in general, Luke, I just yeah,

1395
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 2: I'll leave it at that. You said it.

1396
01:05:56,640 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 1: It's good. I mean, you know, listen, who takes checks

1397
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 1: from monopolists Yu Sawda does, right, So just understand where

1398
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:10,919
Speaker 1: their bread is buttered, what their business is like. They

1399
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 1: decided to align themselves in an industry where the athletes

1400
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:19,440
Speaker 1: have the least amount of protection possible, just you know,

1401
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 1: like this, people think that they're like the good guys

1402
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 1: in the room who've got it all figured out. They

1403
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 1: are zelots who are making it up as they go.

1404
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 2: Do you feel in general that the Daugistan based Russian

1405
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:39,200
Speaker 2: fighters are starting to get an evil empire feel from

1406
01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 2: the rest of the world and how they're treated in

1407
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 2: this court of public opinion?

1408
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:49,400
Speaker 1: They are certainly polarizing figures in ways that surprise me.

1409
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 1: I'm often surprised at the outsized reactions that they get poor,

1410
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 1: good or bad or you know, maybe they deserve, you know, negative.

1411
01:06:57,560 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 1: I'm not saying the negative response by itself is bad

1412
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 1: in certain cases, but they do seem to be lightning rods.

1413
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 1: They do seem to be lightning rods for criticism.

1414
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 2: Because there's a lot of people that say, how come

1415
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 2: you guys aren't mentioning that they had only twenty four

1416
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:14,880
Speaker 2: hours to rehydrate for this fight, not thirty six, So

1417
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:18,400
Speaker 2: that was even harder on Mahchev, right cutting, you know.

1418
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 1: Right, right, right, So there was all those factors as well.

1419
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:25,040
Speaker 1: They had the much narrow away in time, so you know,

1420
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 1: so again if he used I don't think that that

1421
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:30,800
Speaker 1: it's a separate question of like, did using the ivy

1422
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:35,120
Speaker 1: change the outcome in the fight? I strongly would believe

1423
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 1: that's not the case. I don't think it made a

1424
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 1: difference at all for him in terms of the outcome

1425
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 1: of the contest. But you know, they might have to

1426
01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 1: do it again. By the way, Volkanovski saying he'd be

1427
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 1: happy to go to Abu Dhabi, so it's his turn

1428
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 1: to get booed, which I appreciate from NBC. Yeah, good stuff.

1429
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 2: Look, Volk's a real guy. He's not the one that's

1430
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:57,160
Speaker 2: been pushing this as far as I know, right.

1431
01:07:57,200 --> 01:07:59,040
Speaker 1: I think he commented on it when he was asked

1432
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:01,560
Speaker 1: by Irlhawani and the interview, and I you know, I'm

1433
01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 1: sure he doesn't love it to the extent that it

1434
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:05,520
Speaker 1: is true, which again, and I have no reason to

1435
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:07,960
Speaker 1: believe that it is, but I don't think it really

1436
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 1: made a difference in the outcome. And again, if somebody

1437
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:15,160
Speaker 1: has proof, turn this fucker in, turn him in, it's

1438
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 1: not snitching. You got to you gotta obey the fucking

1439
01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 1: rules here, especially in the title fight. But I'm waiting

1440
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 1: for someone to do that, and they keep not doing it.

1441
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:26,200
Speaker 2: So are you following the Helwani Tony Khan feud right now?

1442
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 2: Or is that out of your juristick.

1443
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:29,800
Speaker 1: I did see one tweet come across. I follow Tony

1444
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 1: Khan on Twitter from long ago, well long before he

1445
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 1: ever did this. I did see what they're beefing.

1446
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 2: Huh they are they are? Yeah, yeah, Ariel getting caught

1447
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:42,479
Speaker 2: up in the storylines here on the pro wrestling side. Look,

1448
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:45,599
Speaker 2: I see that he's a WW superstar at the moment.

1449
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:48,519
Speaker 1: I guess. So, all right, you see with that of mine,

1450
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:51,479
Speaker 1: our top five is done. Let's go to the part

1451
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:54,599
Speaker 1: where they get to ask us the audience does questions.

1452
01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:57,519
Speaker 1: It's time for dms and dogs. That's right. We've got

1453
01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 1: male viewers, mail and viewers, male viewers.

1454
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:02,439
Speaker 2: Male heehaw, he friggin' haw.

1455
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:05,320
Speaker 1: All right, BC. From at we put up posts on

1456
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:07,760
Speaker 1: social every Sunday, y'all fill it up, and then we

1457
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 1: pull from there at Dog dot Stone. Real talk. Why

1458
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:14,519
Speaker 1: do some fighters only start trying to check kicks after

1459
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 1: they've already been hurt to the leg and body. Obviously

1460
01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 1: Night was a huge example, but we also saw it

1461
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 1: to a lesser extent with Emmett against Yaeir BC.

1462
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 2: What do you think, Well, to stand in there and

1463
01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:29,120
Speaker 2: kicking range, you're usually trying to establish early in the

1464
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:31,920
Speaker 2: fight something your jab, you're you know, the fact that

1465
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 2: you're going to get inside and stay inside on somebody.

1466
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:35,479
Speaker 2: So I think a lot of people like to no

1467
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:38,519
Speaker 2: sell the effects of that, so they don't show any

1468
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:40,439
Speaker 2: tell so they can stand there and then you know,

1469
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 2: they get to a certain point of where it's starting

1470
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:45,320
Speaker 2: to compromise them, and then it's all about protection. I mean,

1471
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:47,760
Speaker 2: that's sort of that seems natural to me.

1472
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:50,599
Speaker 1: Luke, Well, my answer was going to be a little

1473
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:53,880
Speaker 1: bit different, which is that one, they probably feel like

1474
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:56,599
Speaker 1: they can get people to stop it sooner or later

1475
01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:59,240
Speaker 1: with everything else that they're doing. And the other part

1476
01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:01,639
Speaker 1: too is that, like you know, if folks ever checked kicks,

1477
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:03,639
Speaker 1: it fucking hurts. It hurts to check.

1478
01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:05,680
Speaker 2: It doesn't have anything to do with that. You ever

1479
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 2: like slam your shin into like the hitch on a

1480
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:11,640
Speaker 2: trailer or something, Luke, you know, you'd be down and

1481
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 2: out for a while.

1482
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:14,599
Speaker 1: From that year. It's extremely painful. I mean, you can't

1483
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 1: really do it very effectively unless you have deadened the

1484
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:20,200
Speaker 1: nerves in the front of the shin for a long

1485
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:23,200
Speaker 1: period of time, and that comes from kicking the bag.

1486
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 1: That comes from like actual shin work, that comes from

1487
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:28,719
Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff that just takes time to deaden

1488
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 1: the nerves and harden everything in there. And if you

1489
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:32,720
Speaker 1: don't do that very commonly, or you've not done that

1490
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:34,000
Speaker 1: over the course of your career, and you check a

1491
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:37,080
Speaker 1: kick to it's like understand, like what is checking a

1492
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 1: kick do? The best kinds of check kicks is they

1493
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:41,680
Speaker 1: tell you not to just raise your legs straight up.

1494
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:43,640
Speaker 1: They want you to raise it at an angle and

1495
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:47,280
Speaker 1: then up so that their shin catches your bone at

1496
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:50,120
Speaker 1: the most painful point for them. It's a pain deterrent.

1497
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:52,160
Speaker 1: It could also be other forms of deterrent, but it's

1498
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:55,160
Speaker 1: in many cases a pain deterrent by having bone on

1499
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:58,640
Speaker 1: bone connection to stop them from doing it. That's a

1500
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 1: two way street. Like unless you really worked on your shins,

1501
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:03,760
Speaker 1: it's very very painful to do that. You can and

1502
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:05,680
Speaker 1: you should, but it's not like it's like, oh, I'll

1503
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:08,720
Speaker 1: just raised my like oh I raised my leg in

1504
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:10,800
Speaker 1: the air, therefore he has to stop. No, it's a

1505
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 1: physical pain deterrent and it's hard to do. It's hard

1506
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:14,800
Speaker 1: to do.

1507
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:17,759
Speaker 2: Do you think William Knight just like hit his limit

1508
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:19,759
Speaker 2: of and he was just like f this, I'm surviving.

1509
01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think something's probably wrong with him and

1510
01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:26,160
Speaker 1: it's not not not in the greater sense, but like

1511
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 1: from a competitive standpoint, I just don't think you can

1512
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:31,000
Speaker 1: walk in the cage and turn in like that a

1513
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 1: performance like that, excuse me, and then not ask questions

1514
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 1: about like what's going on at home?

1515
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:39,040
Speaker 2: You know, like you think Volkanovsky should have kicked at

1516
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:41,160
Speaker 2: Zuck right in the shin in the beginning of their

1517
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:44,200
Speaker 2: like video game sparring sequence, just to like just to

1518
01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 2: show him where he is right now and the you know,

1519
01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:48,240
Speaker 2: in terms of being a real fighter.

1520
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 1: I think he should not deal with him at all.

1521
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:54,400
Speaker 1: But you know that's just me, all right at z

1522
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:59,240
Speaker 1: dot firm dot esp I said, like, is this a

1523
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 1: place in Spain? What does this all right? With Shafcott

1524
01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 1: Rochmanov fighting in two weeks against a legit contender like

1525
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:07,400
Speaker 1: Jeff Neil. Do you find it inevitable that he will

1526
01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:09,720
Speaker 1: eventually match up against Hams in the future, possibly even

1527
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:11,840
Speaker 1: for the belt. If so, who would you favor BC?

1528
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:13,679
Speaker 1: Is it inevitable and if so, who wins.

1529
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:16,160
Speaker 2: I don't feel it's inevitable anymore, because doesn't it feel

1530
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:20,559
Speaker 2: like Hamzad's gonna be a middleweight yes fighter moving forward?

1531
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:22,799
Speaker 2: It feels like that all the talk about him and Whittaker,

1532
01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:26,719
Speaker 2: it feels like they're not going the route of forcing

1533
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:28,960
Speaker 2: him to take a welcherweight fight to prove that he

1534
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 2: can still make the weight, which would have probably been

1535
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 2: Colby on pay per view, would have been fun, and

1536
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 2: then waiting for the winner of the trilogy between Usman

1537
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 2: and Edwards. We're not going in that direction, it seems,

1538
01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:42,280
Speaker 2: so will Shavcott Shavcott. If he wins Luke, he's gonna go,

1539
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:44,840
Speaker 2: He's gonna go right to the front, and he's gonna

1540
01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:45,719
Speaker 2: be fighting for a title.

1541
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:45,880
Speaker 1: No.

1542
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:47,559
Speaker 2: At right now, I don't see them fighting each other.

1543
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 2: But if they did, if they fought tomorrow at one seventy, Luke,

1544
01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 2: who's the favorite.

1545
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:57,320
Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like here's the thing. Hamzad

1546
01:12:57,439 --> 01:13:00,559
Speaker 1: is like the guy who has the physical tools to

1547
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:03,600
Speaker 1: win just about any one seventy contest. Yeah, but I

1548
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:06,240
Speaker 1: feel like his aggressive style will make him make mistakes

1549
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:09,120
Speaker 1: and over the course of a five round fight against

1550
01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:11,080
Speaker 1: Rock Monov. It seems like a real bad.

1551
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:16,160
Speaker 2: Idea right now when we talk of I mean this original.

1552
01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 2: You know, we used to do hashtag holy hammer, Luke,

1553
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:20,960
Speaker 2: I used to have my cupboard behind me. You know.

1554
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:23,240
Speaker 2: Some of that was to play up these amazing fighters

1555
01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:26,120
Speaker 2: coming out of Eastern Europe, Russia, Dagistan, these surrounding areas.

1556
01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:28,040
Speaker 2: They're just taking over the sport. But part of that

1557
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:30,320
Speaker 2: too was about you know, we're both super fans along

1558
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:32,599
Speaker 2: with being journalists, and sometimes fighters come on our radar

1559
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 2: and they they grab us. Luke, you're a shof caught

1560
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:38,200
Speaker 2: rock Monoff guy. Is he number one? Is he the

1561
01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:40,160
Speaker 2: number one horse in your stable at the moment of

1562
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:43,200
Speaker 2: like favorite fighters that are coming on and you and

1563
01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:45,960
Speaker 2: you you're willing to, you know, invest money in their

1564
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:48,639
Speaker 2: stock that that like, Is that your guy at the moment?

1565
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:52,320
Speaker 1: Yea, Of all guys I have extremely high and I

1566
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:55,559
Speaker 1: have for almost that's his first fight. I've been like,

1567
01:13:55,720 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 1: oh okay, this is a different level than every way.

1568
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:03,639
Speaker 1: So yeah, probably he's probably my number one. Yeah.

1569
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:05,639
Speaker 2: We met his manager of that time at the World

1570
01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:07,400
Speaker 2: MMA Awards. Look real nice guy, he said, he's a

1571
01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:08,120
Speaker 2: big MK fan.

1572
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 1: Very nice guy, Yes, very nice guy, all right? From

1573
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 1: at M Porter four forty BC with power slap rating struggling.

1574
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:17,639
Speaker 1: I'm not paid attention, I guess, but I'm not surprised

1575
01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:19,680
Speaker 1: to hear that. What are the odds Luke could get

1576
01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 1: a tweet to show up on that broadcast that is BC.

1577
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:29,120
Speaker 1: They don't love my tweets over at the UFC, I

1578
01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:29,840
Speaker 1: guess huh No.

1579
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:32,080
Speaker 2: Imagine if you and Anthony Smith just started having back

1580
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:34,240
Speaker 2: and forth this course about who you think is gonna

1581
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:36,880
Speaker 2: win the slap pay per view coming up? I think

1582
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:38,360
Speaker 2: you can make it on the screen. Look, I think

1583
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:38,759
Speaker 2: you could.

1584
01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:42,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, our old boss like who has you know? Who

1585
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:46,600
Speaker 1: knows the UFC brass very well. Just looked at me

1586
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:48,519
Speaker 1: one time during the first meeting you ever had with him.

1587
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:53,840
Speaker 1: He's like, they don't like you very much. I was like, Yeah,

1588
01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:55,400
Speaker 1: what do you want me to do? Sorry?

1589
01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:56,280
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1590
01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:59,800
Speaker 1: All right? From at Nick so Loud. Can we get

1591
01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 1: an episode where you both trained bj jit I'm forty three?

1592
01:15:03,160 --> 01:15:06,599
Speaker 1: Will we fucking stop or any martial art together? Boxing

1593
01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:07,680
Speaker 1: is also an option be.

1594
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:10,000
Speaker 2: Said that boxing. Look, here's the deal. As long as

1595
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:15,040
Speaker 2: Showtime is consistently willing to fund our doncumentaries and I

1596
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:17,559
Speaker 2: know when we did the last one, episode seven, it

1597
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:19,519
Speaker 2: was forty two minutes long. We thought that might be

1598
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:22,639
Speaker 2: the end of it. So let's go out with a bang. Somehow, Luke,

1599
01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 2: we got approved again for Donk for Doc eight of

1600
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:28,599
Speaker 2: our you know, England trip and wherever else we acquire

1601
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:32,120
Speaker 2: film for. But sometimes what makes those docks great are

1602
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:33,880
Speaker 2: the things that we're on the road and we do.

1603
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:35,559
Speaker 2: Imagine if you and I were on the road, Let's

1604
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 2: say we went down to like we got a home

1605
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:39,879
Speaker 2: office for CBS Sports and FTL down there in South Florida.

1606
01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:42,000
Speaker 2: Imagine if we did that and we went over to

1607
01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:44,360
Speaker 2: like kill Cliff or someone like that, and we had

1608
01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:46,960
Speaker 2: a friend in the business there, Imagine like ra shot

1609
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:49,240
Speaker 2: or somebody, and you and I were able to put

1610
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:52,200
Speaker 2: the stuff on like Zuck did and and just kind

1611
01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:55,799
Speaker 2: of trade calf strikes and maybe I'll, you know, probably

1612
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:57,559
Speaker 2: nothing to double leg couldn't figure out if I got

1613
01:15:57,600 --> 01:15:59,759
Speaker 2: in there with you, Luke. I mean, how's your takedown

1614
01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 2: to we take down?

1615
01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:03,519
Speaker 1: Defense is actually one of my better parts of my game.

1616
01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:05,679
Speaker 2: All Right, I'd have to surprise you with some spinning

1617
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:08,599
Speaker 2: shit then, but I'd be willing to, like fool around

1618
01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 2: there with the dot cams. Look are you saying that's

1619
01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:12,200
Speaker 2: not something you're doing, That's not.

1620
01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:14,480
Speaker 1: Not something I'm doing. No, I'm not interested in that whatsoever.

1621
01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:19,360
Speaker 2: Now Now, is that rooted in the potential for embarrassment

1622
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:23,479
Speaker 2: and mocking or is it more rooted in like, look,

1623
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:26,040
Speaker 2: I'm forty I'm old. I'm forty three, I'm old, and

1624
01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:27,840
Speaker 2: you know I don't want bcf and around and hit

1625
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:29,320
Speaker 2: me with some like jumping knee or.

1626
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:32,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean definitely it's it's definitely both right, Definitely,

1627
01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:35,080
Speaker 1: I know that, Like physically, I just cannot move at

1628
01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:37,840
Speaker 1: all like I once did. That's part of it. The

1629
01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:40,800
Speaker 1: other part of it is just like I don't know, man,

1630
01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:45,120
Speaker 1: I've got it's weird. I almost have like a I

1631
01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:48,720
Speaker 1: almost have like a resentful attitude, But that's not it's weird.

1632
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 1: I don't have anything to resent. But like, the problem was, man,

1633
01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:55,000
Speaker 1: I didn't finish my training the right way, and I

1634
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 1: didn't realize it at the time. I left super bag

1635
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:02,680
Speaker 1: up and just broken. And it's taken like I've had

1636
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:05,439
Speaker 1: to do physical therapy for stuff like for years. Yeah,

1637
01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:08,360
Speaker 1: and it just left a really sour taste in my mouth.

1638
01:17:08,439 --> 01:17:11,479
Speaker 1: At the end. Unfortunately it was. And I want to

1639
01:17:11,479 --> 01:17:13,439
Speaker 1: be clear, like I don't view that as the as

1640
01:17:13,479 --> 01:17:15,719
Speaker 1: the sum total of my experience, but the sum total

1641
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:18,880
Speaker 1: is actually quite positive. But at the end, dude, I

1642
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:22,960
Speaker 1: was just like frustrated and beat up and burned out,

1643
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:26,240
Speaker 1: and I walked away and I just haven't looked back,

1644
01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:28,599
Speaker 1: and I just don't have any My wife started training again.

1645
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:30,960
Speaker 1: Did I tell you that? No, I've actually started. Yeah,

1646
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:33,240
Speaker 1: she actually resumed training jiu jitsu. She's back now, so

1647
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:35,240
Speaker 1: good for her. I'll take it for her.

1648
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:39,080
Speaker 2: Do you think she would ever roll with Roxy Motifuri again?

1649
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:42,080
Speaker 1: She probably would. She probably would, She didn't, She didn't

1650
01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:46,440
Speaker 1: leave nearly as uh bitter and angry.

1651
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:50,639
Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad you know your limits at least, because

1652
01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:53,160
Speaker 2: if we got into like a fun little documentary camera

1653
01:17:53,240 --> 01:17:55,800
Speaker 2: sparring match, there's without question I'm going for the heart

1654
01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:58,040
Speaker 2: punch on you. And if I killed you Luke and

1655
01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:01,080
Speaker 2: took your audience in that way, and like you know,

1656
01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:02,679
Speaker 2: I'd be a lot, a lot of guilt to deal

1657
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:04,080
Speaker 2: with moving forward, you know what I mean?

1658
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:08,000
Speaker 1: Me and Halwai would probably have a really if you

1659
01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:11,800
Speaker 1: took if you took the viewers by killing me, I

1660
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 1: feel like, by like you know, feudal system Japanese rules.

1661
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:17,439
Speaker 1: That's kind of fair, kind of okay, Yeah.

1662
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:19,320
Speaker 2: Under pride scoring, I would win, Luke, There's no question

1663
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:22,439
Speaker 2: about that. You know the damage, you know. Yeah, but

1664
01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:24,360
Speaker 2: I don't want to be responsible for that, Luke, because

1665
01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:25,559
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, then I'd have to raise

1666
01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:27,240
Speaker 2: your family too, and I got my own, you know,

1667
01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:28,000
Speaker 2: and I'm not into that.

1668
01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:30,200
Speaker 1: I'm not into that. And listen, you're never home, so

1669
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:32,639
Speaker 1: I mean, who's watching them? Really? Yeah?

1670
01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:36,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah that's true. Yeah, but you know, just know, Twoki,

1671
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:38,519
Speaker 2: that t O Gringo has your back no matter what,

1672
01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 2: even you know, Yeah.

1673
01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:43,280
Speaker 1: All right, see last but not least at Jack Underscore

1674
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:46,559
Speaker 1: DG Underscore, which I mean, just the worst fucking name ever.

1675
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 1: All right, Luke, I've been dying to know how many

1676
01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:51,760
Speaker 1: vapes you have consumed since getting back from London BC.

1677
01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:53,519
Speaker 1: Would it surprise you to know that the one I

1678
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:56,080
Speaker 1: took back from London I threw in the trash. I

1679
01:18:56,120 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 1: no longer have it.

1680
01:18:57,479 --> 01:19:01,040
Speaker 2: So vape sticks sense The line didn't trip. My over

1681
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:03,680
Speaker 2: under is five.

1682
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:07,160
Speaker 1: Now each one holds like thousands of puffs, So like,

1683
01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:08,000
Speaker 1: what do you mean.

1684
01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:11,880
Speaker 2: Okay, So how long does one last if you were

1685
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:14,280
Speaker 2: gonna regularly puff it for me?

1686
01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:17,120
Speaker 1: Yeah? About a month?

1687
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:20,519
Speaker 2: Oh shy. I see, I don't vape because I'm more

1688
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:24,000
Speaker 2: of well adjusted citizen apparently than you. Yes, but I

1689
01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:26,479
Speaker 2: will say though that, uh, okay, so you could have

1690
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:28,679
Speaker 2: you could have still been on the same the same

1691
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 2: puffer from uh from London? Yeah, all right, Well.

1692
01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:34,479
Speaker 1: Yeah I threw it away. I was no, I didn't.

1693
01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:36,120
Speaker 1: I didn't mean throw it away like it was done.

1694
01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:38,160
Speaker 1: I meant throw it away like I all done.

1695
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:41,000
Speaker 2: That's great, okay, because I will say that your your

1696
01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:44,040
Speaker 2: comment that you know vapors are closers, I like there's

1697
01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:46,760
Speaker 2: a lot of huts chutzpa in that huts put luke.

1698
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:47,240
Speaker 1: I like that.

1699
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:50,599
Speaker 2: I like that idea. And I do think you're you're you're,

1700
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 2: you know, more nice to be around when you're vaping.

1701
01:19:53,080 --> 01:19:55,040
Speaker 2: But I want to see you last long.

1702
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:59,240
Speaker 1: So if you know, uh, I'm not saying I won't

1703
01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:02,920
Speaker 1: vape again. I'm just not vaping right now, you know. Okay?

1704
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:03,519
Speaker 1: All right?

1705
01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:05,240
Speaker 2: What if what if somebody put a firearm to your

1706
01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:07,479
Speaker 2: head and said, what city is the next MK Live

1707
01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:16,080
Speaker 2: show in New York? Possibility Vegas possibility.

1708
01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:21,640
Speaker 1: Vegas, Dublin, Floridas possible. But I just don't trust Floridians

1709
01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:22,280
Speaker 1: to show up.

1710
01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:24,479
Speaker 2: No, they don't care about us in Florida at all.

1711
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:25,200
Speaker 1: No, we can't.

1712
01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:25,880
Speaker 2: We can't do that.

1713
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:27,160
Speaker 1: We got bosses.

1714
01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:29,599
Speaker 2: There are some people that said, hey, if you bring

1715
01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:31,920
Speaker 2: that to like Toronto or Montreal, you.

1716
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:36,400
Speaker 1: Guys would Yeah, have you been? I know you've been

1717
01:20:36,439 --> 01:20:37,679
Speaker 1: to Canada? Have you been to Toronto?

1718
01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:40,200
Speaker 2: I only went for a Fish concert in two thousand

1719
01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:42,120
Speaker 2: when I was on tour with them, Luke, and it

1720
01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:44,320
Speaker 2: was they have that amphitheater right on the water there.

1721
01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:44,599
Speaker 3: It was.

1722
01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:45,360
Speaker 2: It was a great thought.

1723
01:20:45,439 --> 01:20:49,519
Speaker 1: I couldn't listen to five seconds of Fish, much less

1724
01:20:49,520 --> 01:20:53,800
Speaker 1: an entire album, much less going to another country to

1725
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:56,559
Speaker 1: go watch them. That sounds like apps and I'm doing

1726
01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:58,200
Speaker 1: a bit like that would be hell on earth for me.

1727
01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 2: I saw like six show was in a week and

1728
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:01,960
Speaker 2: a half. It was a great run back.

1729
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:05,000
Speaker 1: Then, Luke, Dude, how many brain cells did you fry

1730
01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:10,200
Speaker 1: on that week? Wow? Whippets and twinkies for everyone.

1731
01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:12,640
Speaker 2: I can't. I can't comment on you know that was

1732
01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:15,120
Speaker 2: the year two thousand, Luke, Right, you know Aaron Blanchfield

1733
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:16,920
Speaker 2: was probably just an infant, and I, you know, my

1734
01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:18,800
Speaker 2: moral compass was out the window back then.

1735
01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:21,519
Speaker 1: So yeah, all right, that's it for us on the

1736
01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:23,720
Speaker 1: top five top for BC's pieces. Let's do it.

1737
01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:26,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do that thing. What I did at yesterday

1738
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 2: was I scoured the globe, Luke, for the the good,

1739
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:31,439
Speaker 2: the bad, the ugly, the in between and all that

1740
01:21:31,720 --> 01:21:34,280
Speaker 2: combat sports and beyond. This is a weekly segment in

1741
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:36,280
Speaker 2: which I take a giant dump and ask if you've

1742
01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:38,160
Speaker 2: seen it, Luke, let's do that. Yeah, all right?

1743
01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:43,200
Speaker 1: Ye see? Can you do a joke or a punchline

1744
01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:45,320
Speaker 1: without asking? All right afterwards?

1745
01:21:46,240 --> 01:21:48,920
Speaker 2: Are you saying that that's that's a a BC trope

1746
01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:52,240
Speaker 2: on the lefl I'm not doing it. I'm not here.

1747
01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:54,639
Speaker 1: You ready, let me do an invitation. I'll be like, oh, BC,

1748
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:56,479
Speaker 1: i studied abroad my junior year. I did not, but

1749
01:21:56,600 --> 01:21:58,360
Speaker 1: let's just say I did. Yeah, I studied abroad my

1750
01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:01,280
Speaker 1: junior year. I'd be like, oh, you did study her?

1751
01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:04,000
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. What's the word like? All right,

1752
01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:07,000
Speaker 1: I bet you did study here? All right, I'll get together.

1753
01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:10,439
Speaker 2: Here, all right, I'm married her. Yeah, not doing a

1754
01:22:10,439 --> 01:22:13,920
Speaker 2: bit here. If I could be candid with you. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1755
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:14,599
Speaker 2: yeah yeah.

1756
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:16,519
Speaker 1: Are you doing? Are you doing an LT bit? Now?

1757
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:17,160
Speaker 1: I was?

1758
01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:19,280
Speaker 2: I just haven't worked on it. I got to start working. Hey,

1759
01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:20,080
Speaker 2: true or false?

1760
01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:22,840
Speaker 1: You know, yellow and cry? Sorry, go ahead.

1761
01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:26,680
Speaker 2: You know Dean Thomas is amazing. Did you see his

1762
01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:30,240
Speaker 2: herb Dean video? Did you see his tomorrow Usmann one?

1763
01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:34,320
Speaker 2: You know he's amazing at stephen A. Smith? Did you

1764
01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:36,000
Speaker 2: tell me that he was working on you?

1765
01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:41,280
Speaker 1: He told me he was workshopping a bit on me. Yeah,

1766
01:22:41,479 --> 01:22:42,800
Speaker 1: love it. I don't know. I don't know if that

1767
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:44,720
Speaker 1: will ever see the light of day, or when it

1768
01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:46,800
Speaker 1: will or what. But he did tell me.

1769
01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:48,280
Speaker 2: That, Yes, you know what I would like to see

1770
01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:50,880
Speaker 2: the light of day. People like Dean Thomas, Eric Nickxon,

1771
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:53,120
Speaker 2: guys that are great at what they do, Dan Hardy,

1772
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:55,360
Speaker 2: great at what they do. We love them. They seem

1773
01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:56,880
Speaker 2: to like us. I'd like to see them in the

1774
01:22:56,960 --> 01:22:57,920
Speaker 2: MK mix a little.

1775
01:22:57,760 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 1: More often, right, I agree with that?

1776
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:03,120
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, let's look at some shit. UFC fight

1777
01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:06,160
Speaker 2: night in Vegas, Luke, how about Aaron Blanchefield. We talked

1778
01:23:06,200 --> 01:23:07,840
Speaker 2: about how big this win was. Did you see the

1779
01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:10,360
Speaker 2: showing of emotion after that stoppage?

1780
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:14,639
Speaker 1: I love a lot to her. BRO meant a lot

1781
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:18,479
Speaker 1: to her. You can tell this was not show it.

1782
01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:22,559
Speaker 1: She didn't show it, but she was feeling the pressure.

1783
01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:24,439
Speaker 1: She was feeling the pressure big time.

1784
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:26,920
Speaker 2: I mean, look, a lot of people were picking against her.

1785
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:28,559
Speaker 2: I did too, Luke. I'm sure she had to deal

1786
01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:31,320
Speaker 2: with all those inner demons of doubt. But you saw.

1787
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:34,160
Speaker 2: I mean, she's crying afterwards, she threw the mouthpiece. This

1788
01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:36,920
Speaker 2: was not I expected to get Somolly McCann right. This

1789
01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:38,800
Speaker 2: was I had to go in there and earn that ship.

1790
01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:42,000
Speaker 2: And boy did she shout out over there. Let's keep

1791
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:45,479
Speaker 2: it going, Luke. Denver nuggets Gard Jamal Murray taking in

1792
01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:48,840
Speaker 2: the show there at the Apex and rocking a I

1793
01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:50,799
Speaker 2: isiada sonya T shirt your thoughts.

1794
01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:53,320
Speaker 1: That's awesome. I didn't know he was. I didn't miss that,

1795
01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:55,000
Speaker 1: par I missed the show live, so I just caught

1796
01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:58,160
Speaker 1: the fights after. But that's cool, man, that's super cool.

1797
01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:00,639
Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm into what you know when when these athletes

1798
01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:02,599
Speaker 2: are cool dudes and they're showing up. I like that looke.

1799
01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:04,879
Speaker 2: Do you know that dude on the Raiders, Max Crosby

1800
01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:07,080
Speaker 2: with two ex's, That guy's at it like every UFC show.

1801
01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:11,240
Speaker 1: Also BC, who's a big time boxing fan, like a

1802
01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:13,680
Speaker 1: real deal boxing fan. Dame Lillard.

1803
01:24:14,360 --> 01:24:16,519
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Dame time, Yeah, big time, big time in

1804
01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:18,920
Speaker 2: that regard. All right, let's go to Felipe Lenz. He

1805
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:21,920
Speaker 2: only needed forty nine seconds to improve your standing in

1806
01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:25,719
Speaker 2: the ok bet race, also sending former title challenger osp

1807
01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:27,200
Speaker 2: to the dark depths. Look at this.

1808
01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:32,080
Speaker 1: The problem wasn't that he lost, or that Felipe lens

1809
01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:34,160
Speaker 1: is a bad fighter. He's a good fighter. It's just

1810
01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:37,800
Speaker 1: he just looked like it didn't take much for him,

1811
01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:38,360
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

1812
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:43,479
Speaker 2: Ko looked like ver Doom versus Steepe, so.

1813
01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:45,280
Speaker 1: A little bit. But the problem was if you recall

1814
01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:46,800
Speaker 1: that fire and one of the reasons why, like that's

1815
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:48,840
Speaker 1: one of the all time like what dude, Verdom is

1816
01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:52,960
Speaker 1: capable of like extraordinary brilliance and then at times like

1817
01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:54,600
Speaker 1: complete dumb ass arey and you're like, dude, what are

1818
01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:57,000
Speaker 1: you doing? You're so much better than this? Yeah, he

1819
01:24:57,040 --> 01:24:59,519
Speaker 1: actually it's one thing to like cage cut right where

1820
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:01,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna follow you and not let you go, But

1821
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:05,280
Speaker 1: he didn't do that. Steepe was along the fence line

1822
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:08,559
Speaker 1: right like this Verdune just met him and then followed

1823
01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:11,840
Speaker 1: him along the fence line, just chased into him. So

1824
01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:14,840
Speaker 1: Peep this up I was called him Pepe Steepe just

1825
01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:17,679
Speaker 1: popped him on the way in and he fell face first.

1826
01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:22,000
Speaker 2: Remember that, Uncle Pepe and shout out, yeah, hey. Submission

1827
01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:27,639
Speaker 2: of the Night from the UFC Maria Bueno Silva knee

1828
01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:30,240
Speaker 2: barring Lena Lansburg. Did you say Pepe is in Brazil?

1829
01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:31,080
Speaker 1: He's in Brazil.

1830
01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:35,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh god. This guy just just populating the earth.

1831
01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:35,719
Speaker 2: One country.

1832
01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:37,880
Speaker 1: She taught himself Portuguese.

1833
01:25:38,280 --> 01:25:40,799
Speaker 2: He's a badass. Luke, can you comment on this? Maria

1834
01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:42,200
Speaker 2: Bueno Silva knee bar?

1835
01:25:42,360 --> 01:25:44,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, this was great. She went for it underneath, and

1836
01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:47,040
Speaker 1: you could tell that Landsberg was just either doesn't know

1837
01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:48,760
Speaker 1: much about leg locking, which is probably not true. He

1838
01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:50,840
Speaker 1: probably knows a fair amount, but simply wasn't in the

1839
01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:53,200
Speaker 1: right frame of mind. She didn't you have to cross

1840
01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:55,679
Speaker 1: your legs at a certain point underneath before that turn

1841
01:25:55,760 --> 01:25:58,200
Speaker 1: really happens, and she did, and and then after that

1842
01:25:58,360 --> 01:26:00,880
Speaker 1: she wasn't really hand fighting either. There's just a lot

1843
01:26:01,240 --> 01:26:03,320
Speaker 1: you can see she's just not really doing very effectively.

1844
01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:06,840
Speaker 1: And it's a nice knee bar from from Bayneo Silva

1845
01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:07,240
Speaker 1: for sure.

1846
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:10,400
Speaker 2: All right, Knucklemania three took us to Albuquerque. Here's Greg

1847
01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:14,400
Speaker 2: Hardy the early knockdown against Josh Watson. This is, of course,

1848
01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:16,160
Speaker 2: Hardy's BKFC debut.

1849
01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:18,439
Speaker 1: Good, nice left hook. Yeah this you know what this

1850
01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:21,040
Speaker 1: this white dude who's got tattoos in all the right places.

1851
01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:24,080
Speaker 1: He h he's got some good timing. He's got some

1852
01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:25,080
Speaker 1: good timing, this guy.

1853
01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:28,120
Speaker 2: And here's the knockout finished Luke shortly after that in

1854
01:26:28,200 --> 01:26:29,840
Speaker 2: round one. Damn, I just.

1855
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:32,360
Speaker 1: Don't understand what Greg Hardy was thinking in this one.

1856
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:37,439
Speaker 1: He just jumped in and paid for it.

1857
01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:40,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's the replay, of course, so the first knockdown

1858
01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:41,920
Speaker 2: and then you can see the finish. What are your

1859
01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:44,920
Speaker 2: thoughts on Josh Watson's celebration with the double fist out, Luke?

1860
01:26:45,000 --> 01:26:48,040
Speaker 2: Is that a reference to something? And what is this?

1861
01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:50,639
Speaker 1: Oh? Like he froze up, like.

1862
01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:52,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, maybe that's it?

1863
01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:54,599
Speaker 1: Is he doing the Is he making fun of him?

1864
01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:56,200
Speaker 1: Look at this left hook? Bah?

1865
01:26:56,240 --> 01:26:57,879
Speaker 2: This is the ringside replay.

1866
01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:00,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, show that one again. Show that ringside replay again

1867
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:03,320
Speaker 1: one more time. Look at how Greg Hardy just leaps

1868
01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:05,840
Speaker 1: into range without much of a set up, so the

1869
01:27:05,880 --> 01:27:09,559
Speaker 1: guy just rolls under it and then uh and actually

1870
01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:11,960
Speaker 1: the right hand was gonna land if the left hand didn't. Anyway,

1871
01:27:12,760 --> 01:27:15,040
Speaker 1: Snap's punched the Stuken box a little bit. Man, It's

1872
01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:15,400
Speaker 1: all right.

1873
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:18,080
Speaker 2: Josh Watson getting a big win there. Hey, let's go

1874
01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:21,880
Speaker 2: over to Lorenzo Hunt Luke. This was wild. So this

1875
01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:25,479
Speaker 2: is the first round light heavyweight title unification. You're gonna

1876
01:27:25,520 --> 01:27:27,240
Speaker 2: see Haunt go down. But watch what.

1877
01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:30,040
Speaker 1: Happened to Marine Richmond. Richmond.

1878
01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:34,200
Speaker 2: Uh, he looked hurt here, but he took his.

1879
01:27:34,200 --> 01:27:37,680
Speaker 1: Time, took his time. He looks a little wobbled look

1880
01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:40,040
Speaker 1: on a rope. So that's a no no, but he

1881
01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:40,760
Speaker 1: made it.

1882
01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:42,679
Speaker 2: Lorenzo Hunts a bad dude. Man.

1883
01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:50,320
Speaker 1: Oh yep, man.

1884
01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:53,360
Speaker 2: We found a winner. No need to call no more.

1885
01:27:53,479 --> 01:27:56,280
Speaker 2: That's it. That's it. That is brilliant stuff there in

1886
01:27:56,280 --> 01:27:58,200
Speaker 2: the main event. Shout out to the bare knuckle folks.

1887
01:27:58,240 --> 01:28:02,040
Speaker 2: One more from BKFC on the undercar. Here's Carissa Sigala

1888
01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:06,519
Speaker 2: realigning her own injured ankle after getting knocked down by

1889
01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:11,720
Speaker 2: Jamie Hinshaw. Luke, this is what we call gnarly af.

1890
01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 1: Okay as a guy who has had multiple multiple right

1891
01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:23,240
Speaker 1: ankle issues. Oh dude, dude, Oh my god, dude, Oh

1892
01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:25,080
Speaker 1: my god. I hadn't seen that.

1893
01:28:25,439 --> 01:28:28,160
Speaker 2: She would lose by first round stoppage because of the

1894
01:28:28,240 --> 01:28:31,639
Speaker 2: leg injury, but her willingness to put that back together

1895
01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:33,719
Speaker 2: and just keep fighting, like, are.

1896
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:36,920
Speaker 1: You shitting me? What I would buck this lady is what.

1897
01:28:37,760 --> 01:28:39,760
Speaker 2: I would give her a hashtag holy hammer if we

1898
01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:41,480
Speaker 2: still put that thing out in the ethos.

1899
01:28:41,200 --> 01:28:44,960
Speaker 1: Luke, Dude, this lady definitely did well. We'll have she

1900
01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:49,559
Speaker 1: hasn't already. We'll do childbirth without uh without pain meds.

1901
01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:51,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably probably.

1902
01:28:51,360 --> 01:28:55,320
Speaker 1: That is dude. That is fucking insane that she did that.

1903
01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:59,200
Speaker 2: Let's go to Thursday's way in. Here's Diego Sanchez an Austin trout,

1904
01:28:59,320 --> 01:29:02,639
Speaker 2: trash talk walking after the face off. Here, let's check

1905
01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:15,479
Speaker 2: this out yet. Oh yeah, he's gonna say you going,

1906
01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:23,400
Speaker 2: He's gonna save you. Oh boy, boy, you can say yes,

1907
01:29:23,520 --> 01:29:27,920
Speaker 2: said yeah, I'll bring in it, not do it right now.

1908
01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:30,120
Speaker 2: I'll do it right now.

1909
01:29:30,280 --> 01:29:40,200
Speaker 4: Mother, dog fight you You ain't haven't been a dog fight.

1910
01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:44,200
Speaker 2: You ain't never been in a dog fight. Would you

1911
01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:45,040
Speaker 2: gonna kill you?

1912
01:29:46,720 --> 01:29:47,320
Speaker 4: We're gonna do.

1913
01:29:49,360 --> 01:29:54,519
Speaker 2: Yes. Look, I'm not sure if you heard that all

1914
01:29:55,880 --> 01:30:02,000
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, I mean, yeah, well they served

1915
01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:04,400
Speaker 2: the same god from what I've researched. But he said,

1916
01:30:04,439 --> 01:30:06,639
Speaker 2: you know your God's not gonna save you, you'll get

1917
01:30:06,640 --> 01:30:10,640
Speaker 2: the sledge meaning the sledge hammer, and uh yeah, it

1918
01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:12,439
Speaker 2: turns out it didn't go that way, Luke. Here's the

1919
01:30:12,439 --> 01:30:17,200
Speaker 2: footage of the stoppage as Austin Trout bloodied e carnal

1920
01:30:18,200 --> 01:30:21,439
Speaker 2: drop Diego Sanchez right there. Reth had finally seen enough

1921
01:30:21,479 --> 01:30:25,320
Speaker 2: in a round four. But nice knockdown here.

1922
01:30:25,200 --> 01:30:28,280
Speaker 1: On the hot Holdasos.

1923
01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:30,840
Speaker 2: Could you translate that from me, Luke, I don't know.

1924
01:30:30,840 --> 01:30:33,679
Speaker 1: I've been I've been following up on like Albuquerque slang.

1925
01:30:33,800 --> 01:30:37,600
Speaker 1: It's the weirdest fucking slang on earth. Sometimes they go

1926
01:30:37,640 --> 01:30:43,160
Speaker 1: to Savin Elavin to go get to go get whatever.

1927
01:30:46,200 --> 01:30:47,840
Speaker 1: Its fucking weird man, and they all.

1928
01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:51,160
Speaker 2: Say, I mean, New Mexico is a weird state, Luke,

1929
01:30:51,160 --> 01:30:52,240
Speaker 2: I've never been there, have you?

1930
01:30:52,720 --> 01:30:56,760
Speaker 1: Yes, dude, My family, my dad's family left Oklahoma because

1931
01:30:56,760 --> 01:30:59,919
Speaker 1: why would you stay in Oklahoma. They moved to New Mexico.

1932
01:31:00,160 --> 01:31:03,440
Speaker 1: They all live there. I've got like they live in Roswell.

1933
01:31:03,520 --> 01:31:05,280
Speaker 1: My family lives in Roswell, New Mexico.

1934
01:31:05,920 --> 01:31:09,080
Speaker 2: All right, Hey, if we have any new Mexican donks

1935
01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:10,920
Speaker 2: reach out to us, let us know. I mean, I've

1936
01:31:10,920 --> 01:31:13,559
Speaker 2: heard we've got people on the Falkland Islands, Luke, We've

1937
01:31:13,560 --> 01:31:15,720
Speaker 2: got people up there and none of it. Let's see

1938
01:31:15,720 --> 01:31:16,320
Speaker 2: if we get anybody.

1939
01:31:16,360 --> 01:31:18,920
Speaker 1: Have you never had, like a serious question, have you

1940
01:31:18,960 --> 01:31:21,800
Speaker 1: never had like the New Mexico green Chilis.

1941
01:31:22,320 --> 01:31:24,240
Speaker 2: I have never had them.

1942
01:31:24,360 --> 01:31:26,599
Speaker 1: Okay. So they all talk about them there like they're

1943
01:31:26,640 --> 01:31:30,160
Speaker 1: the greatest things in sliced bread. They're right, it's the

1944
01:31:30,160 --> 01:31:33,080
Speaker 1: greatest things in sliced bread. It's amazing, and they put

1945
01:31:33,080 --> 01:31:35,960
Speaker 1: it on all their food and it's really really good.

1946
01:31:36,080 --> 01:31:39,280
Speaker 1: They just talk like weirdos e carnal.

1947
01:31:40,040 --> 01:31:43,679
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, all right, Hey, John Jones had a busy

1948
01:31:43,720 --> 01:31:46,400
Speaker 2: couple of days, Luke. Here is him inside the building

1949
01:31:46,439 --> 01:31:48,280
Speaker 2: at BKFC Albuquerque.

1950
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:50,120
Speaker 1: Sweet.

1951
01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:54,120
Speaker 2: Yeah he's bad.

1952
01:31:54,160 --> 01:31:56,439
Speaker 1: I don't care, all right, we don't care.

1953
01:31:56,520 --> 01:32:02,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, okay, and you all right, all right.

1954
01:32:02,720 --> 01:32:05,960
Speaker 2: We'll leave it at that, Luke. Okay. John also is

1955
01:32:05,960 --> 01:32:07,680
Speaker 2: not a bit of a redemption tour. Ahead of his

1956
01:32:07,800 --> 01:32:14,200
Speaker 2: March return, he sent a series of tweets at Daniel Cormier,

1957
01:32:14,240 --> 01:32:17,840
Speaker 2: including this one basically saying all of it is behind us.

1958
01:32:17,840 --> 01:32:20,080
Speaker 2: If you want to interview me after my win against

1959
01:32:20,120 --> 01:32:22,840
Speaker 2: Cyril Gonn, you can, Luke DC, you are more than

1960
01:32:22,880 --> 01:32:25,120
Speaker 2: welcome to commentate at my fight. I think you are

1961
01:32:25,160 --> 01:32:27,320
Speaker 2: really good at what you do. I trust you would

1962
01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:30,360
Speaker 2: be non biased. All the best. Brother that got five

1963
01:32:30,439 --> 01:32:35,000
Speaker 2: million views that tweet, what would happen if he sent

1964
01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:37,400
Speaker 2: the same tweet to you, Luke to put the two

1965
01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:40,080
Speaker 2: fourteen debacle finally behind you?

1966
01:32:40,120 --> 01:32:44,280
Speaker 1: Guys, I don't have any interest in talking to him whatsoever.

1967
01:32:44,439 --> 01:32:47,040
Speaker 1: Like it doesn't mean it's sort of been weird. It's

1968
01:32:47,080 --> 01:32:52,080
Speaker 1: like it's like a you know, a person you don't

1969
01:32:52,200 --> 01:32:55,559
Speaker 1: care about in that way wants to talk. You'd be like, okay, great,

1970
01:32:55,680 --> 01:32:57,840
Speaker 1: Like what is was that supposed to mean? It doesn't

1971
01:32:57,840 --> 01:32:58,400
Speaker 1: mean anything.

1972
01:32:58,479 --> 01:33:00,200
Speaker 2: So my dream is that you and I go to

1973
01:33:00,280 --> 01:33:04,479
Speaker 2: Jersey City and we interview Juanna and Johnny Bones back

1974
01:33:04,520 --> 01:33:06,640
Speaker 2: to back, and we put all of our grievances behind us.

1975
01:33:06,720 --> 01:33:09,360
Speaker 1: Luke, I don't have I don't live every day worrying

1976
01:33:09,400 --> 01:33:11,680
Speaker 1: about it, like like some of y'all seem to be

1977
01:33:11,760 --> 01:33:14,320
Speaker 1: going about your day is worrying about it. I just

1978
01:33:14,360 --> 01:33:17,840
Speaker 1: live my day normally. You know, I'm not going to

1979
01:33:17,880 --> 01:33:21,200
Speaker 1: take anything from him. He's a tremendous fighter. He might

1980
01:33:21,200 --> 01:33:22,920
Speaker 1: becomeing number one pound for pound in a couple of weeks.

1981
01:33:22,960 --> 01:33:24,559
Speaker 1: To be quite honest with him, like that's very much

1982
01:33:24,600 --> 01:33:27,200
Speaker 1: on the table. But like as a person or as

1983
01:33:27,240 --> 01:33:29,680
Speaker 1: a figure of intrigue, it doesn't exist to me.

1984
01:33:30,479 --> 01:33:34,360
Speaker 2: Blood is own table. Yeah, I'm with you, Luke. Okay, Hey,

1985
01:33:34,600 --> 01:33:37,080
Speaker 2: remember we met with those fine blokes on MMA on

1986
01:33:37,240 --> 01:33:41,120
Speaker 2: point over there and there was Jay, there was who

1987
01:33:41,240 --> 01:33:43,160
Speaker 2: was that dude behind the scenes that that is like

1988
01:33:43,640 --> 01:33:44,639
Speaker 2: runs the show? You remember that guy?

1989
01:33:44,720 --> 01:33:46,120
Speaker 1: Yeh, yeah, I don't even know the names of people

1990
01:33:46,160 --> 01:33:47,200
Speaker 1: who work on our show.

1991
01:33:47,479 --> 01:33:49,840
Speaker 2: All right. Well, the other guy was Alex who they

1992
01:33:49,840 --> 01:33:52,000
Speaker 2: call Bailey and big fan of that guy, Luke. Remember

1993
01:33:52,040 --> 01:33:54,479
Speaker 2: he told us that he that he trains with Brad

1994
01:33:54,479 --> 01:33:55,719
Speaker 2: Pickett over there at that MMA.

1995
01:33:55,840 --> 01:33:57,520
Speaker 1: Jim, I think that's right. Yeah.

1996
01:33:57,600 --> 01:33:59,960
Speaker 2: Here's a video of good old bag of on Bailey

1997
01:34:00,040 --> 01:34:02,120
Speaker 2: in here. Uh, work in the pads your.

1998
01:34:02,040 --> 01:34:04,880
Speaker 1: Thoughts, Bogavon Bogavon geita.

1999
01:34:05,400 --> 01:34:07,960
Speaker 2: So that's that's Alex on the right with the black gloves, Luke.

2000
01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:10,759
Speaker 2: But good old Baileyan, what do you think about his form?

2001
01:34:11,080 --> 01:34:12,120
Speaker 2: Can you rate that form?

2002
01:34:12,600 --> 01:34:15,880
Speaker 1: Looks like he trains, all right, you wouldn't call him,

2003
01:34:15,880 --> 01:34:18,400
Speaker 1: wouldn't call him, you know, not like Floyd Mayweather on

2004
01:34:18,439 --> 01:34:19,200
Speaker 1: the bag or anything.

2005
01:34:19,240 --> 01:34:23,320
Speaker 2: But uh, what do you think about in MMA Media

2006
01:34:23,520 --> 01:34:27,080
Speaker 2: Championship fight him against Oscar Willis? Are they in the

2007
01:34:27,120 --> 01:34:28,080
Speaker 2: same weight class?

2008
01:34:28,320 --> 01:34:30,479
Speaker 1: I don't think they are. I think he's bigger than Oscar.

2009
01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:34,559
Speaker 2: Okay, but you know Oscar Willis is crazy. That's the difference.

2010
01:34:34,800 --> 01:34:37,240
Speaker 1: Dude. All of these questions are the wrong ones. You have.

2011
01:34:37,680 --> 01:34:39,800
Speaker 1: R J. Clifford is I think a black belt jiu

2012
01:34:39,840 --> 01:34:42,719
Speaker 1: jitsu and fought and strike force and as a serious

2013
01:34:42,840 --> 01:34:46,519
Speaker 1: XM radio host, he would fuck up everybody. Okay, not

2014
01:34:46,600 --> 01:34:47,479
Speaker 1: even contest.

2015
01:34:47,680 --> 01:34:51,040
Speaker 2: So would UFC broadcaster Daniel Cormier, Luke, but maybe not

2016
01:34:51,080 --> 01:34:52,639
Speaker 2: after putting on that referee shirt.

2017
01:34:52,960 --> 01:34:54,719
Speaker 1: Are we fat shaming DC again?

2018
01:34:54,920 --> 01:34:57,519
Speaker 2: We go there? I didn't go there. You opened the

2019
01:34:57,560 --> 01:34:59,680
Speaker 2: door again. Your DC's actually my favorite interview. I love

2020
01:34:59,720 --> 01:35:02,240
Speaker 2: that guy. I don't want to BC DC rivalry. I

2021
01:35:02,280 --> 01:35:03,559
Speaker 2: love Daniel Cormier.

2022
01:35:03,560 --> 01:35:05,639
Speaker 1: Okay, you also love making fun of his weight gate.

2023
01:35:05,680 --> 01:35:07,000
Speaker 1: I mean it's your favorite thing to do.

2024
01:35:07,400 --> 01:35:09,400
Speaker 2: Actually, last night on YouTube, Luke, I was sitting in

2025
01:35:09,439 --> 01:35:12,960
Speaker 2: the eighth row. I watched his NCAA Championship out against

2026
01:35:13,080 --> 01:35:16,120
Speaker 2: Kill kles Kill.

2027
01:35:16,240 --> 01:35:17,120
Speaker 1: Tough to be, dude.

2028
01:35:17,120 --> 01:35:18,639
Speaker 2: Cormier was thin back then.

2029
01:35:18,560 --> 01:35:20,360
Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, he was a smaller dude for that.

2030
01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:22,839
Speaker 2: That was like one eighty five I think, right, one eighty.

2031
01:35:22,600 --> 01:35:26,080
Speaker 1: Five or one ninety seven. I'd have to double check,

2032
01:35:26,160 --> 01:35:29,439
Speaker 1: but yes, he was certainly obviously, you know, much smaller.

2033
01:35:29,600 --> 01:35:32,880
Speaker 2: All right, Hey, regional mma ko of the week time, Luke,

2034
01:35:32,960 --> 01:35:35,280
Speaker 2: let's go over to LFA. What do you think about this?

2035
01:35:37,560 --> 01:35:40,280
Speaker 2: Jesus yep. I think he slept him. I think that's

2036
01:35:40,320 --> 01:35:42,000
Speaker 2: what happened, dude.

2037
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:44,480
Speaker 1: He knocked his mouthpiece into another dimension.

2038
01:35:44,960 --> 01:35:49,639
Speaker 2: Yikes. All right, that is just fantastic. I'm told this

2039
01:35:49,720 --> 01:35:53,120
Speaker 2: is uh wait, what we're told? Something here?

2040
01:35:53,200 --> 01:35:57,320
Speaker 1: Luke from Luca's Brian battle in his first amateur fight

2041
01:35:57,360 --> 01:35:59,280
Speaker 1: from a few years ago, getting KOed.

2042
01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:00,800
Speaker 2: Is that really him?

2043
01:36:01,280 --> 01:36:01,479
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2044
01:36:01,479 --> 01:36:04,320
Speaker 2: I guess all right, all right, I thought it was recent.

2045
01:36:04,360 --> 01:36:07,160
Speaker 2: Apparently I'm way off. Shout out, shout out to our

2046
01:36:07,479 --> 01:36:10,519
Speaker 2: our team, right there. Let's go over to muy Thai

2047
01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:14,839
Speaker 2: Grand Prix. You a big fan of that, sure? Okay?

2048
01:36:16,080 --> 01:36:17,960
Speaker 1: Oh this is an old one too. Yeah, we talked

2049
01:36:18,000 --> 01:36:20,040
Speaker 1: about this one already. This is your you're you're you're

2050
01:36:20,040 --> 01:36:20,880
Speaker 1: recycling a little bit.

2051
01:36:21,200 --> 01:36:22,360
Speaker 2: You sure I'm recycling, Luke.

2052
01:36:22,360 --> 01:36:25,720
Speaker 1: They looked. We talked about how vicious this was one

2053
01:36:25,720 --> 01:36:29,680
Speaker 1: of the best KOs I've ever seen in kickboxing to

2054
01:36:29,760 --> 01:36:32,479
Speaker 1: right hand to right hand, uppercut to left hand.

2055
01:36:32,520 --> 01:36:34,719
Speaker 2: I mean, just we got a lot of great people

2056
01:36:34,760 --> 01:36:37,200
Speaker 2: that send in these videos on the regular, Luke. But

2057
01:36:37,240 --> 01:36:39,519
Speaker 2: the problem is a lot of them send duplicates, and

2058
01:36:39,560 --> 01:36:41,880
Speaker 2: I'm like, nope, already use that in like episode eight,

2059
01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:45,720
Speaker 2: all right, you gotta remember, But I'm sorry about that. Here.

2060
01:36:45,720 --> 01:36:47,320
Speaker 2: I don't think we've shown this one before. This is

2061
01:36:47,360 --> 01:36:53,280
Speaker 2: at w KG. Here's Xia Ling Yang and this is

2062
01:36:53,320 --> 01:36:54,479
Speaker 2: what they call late stoppage.

2063
01:36:54,560 --> 01:36:57,280
Speaker 1: Luke, good lord, So this is I guess the uh

2064
01:36:57,720 --> 01:37:00,479
Speaker 1: wherever this took is the equivalent of I've seen Phil

2065
01:37:00,520 --> 01:37:02,479
Speaker 1: Baroni Dave Manet yep.

2066
01:37:02,600 --> 01:37:05,800
Speaker 2: I've also seen Ray Mercer versus Tommy Morrison, and this

2067
01:37:05,840 --> 01:37:06,559
Speaker 2: looks a lot like that.

2068
01:37:06,720 --> 01:37:10,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, dude, if you've never seen Phil Baroni, Dave

2069
01:37:10,160 --> 01:37:14,240
Speaker 1: Manee minee is spelled m e nn. Phil Baroni is

2070
01:37:14,320 --> 01:37:18,040
Speaker 1: literally punching him straight down the middle. Manet is out

2071
01:37:18,560 --> 01:37:22,640
Speaker 1: the instant the referee intervenes. Manet falls right. So what

2072
01:37:22,680 --> 01:37:26,320
Speaker 1: it tells you is literally Baroni was punching him so

2073
01:37:26,640 --> 01:37:30,519
Speaker 1: hard that he was levitating him. He was keeping him

2074
01:37:30,640 --> 01:37:35,080
Speaker 1: up by pressing him back into the fence with the punches.

2075
01:37:35,200 --> 01:37:37,880
Speaker 1: It was one of the scariest knockouts I've ever seen.

2076
01:37:38,680 --> 01:37:41,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's Gnar really right there. Damn all right, Lucas,

2077
01:37:41,800 --> 01:37:44,880
Speaker 2: time to examine future Hall of Famer Frankie Edgar's stand

2078
01:37:44,960 --> 01:37:48,360
Speaker 2: up game. You ready, yeah, seven years ago this is

2079
01:37:48,520 --> 01:37:51,559
Speaker 2: arguably the best moment in Edgar's stand up history. Remember

2080
01:37:51,560 --> 01:37:52,679
Speaker 2: this win over Chad Mendes.

2081
01:37:52,960 --> 01:37:55,920
Speaker 1: Brilliant left hook, polished him off, nice shot.

2082
01:37:56,000 --> 01:38:00,720
Speaker 2: Yes, right, quick, powerful, amazing. Yeah, he got himself back

2083
01:38:00,720 --> 01:38:02,760
Speaker 2: in there to face Aldough again, right? Or am I

2084
01:38:02,800 --> 01:38:05,200
Speaker 2: wrong on that? He's had a lot of time. He's

2085
01:38:05,240 --> 01:38:07,639
Speaker 2: a legend. Well, how about this stand up game, Luke,

2086
01:38:07,720 --> 01:38:08,479
Speaker 2: let's get your thoughts.

2087
01:38:08,840 --> 01:38:11,120
Speaker 3: You know, I have more time in youtgun than anybody

2088
01:38:11,160 --> 01:38:16,799
Speaker 3: in the history to the UFC. I've been punched, kicked

2089
01:38:16,800 --> 01:38:22,240
Speaker 3: and beating down more than Will Smith's been beaten by Jada. Listen,

2090
01:38:22,280 --> 01:38:25,280
Speaker 3: if punches were dicks, my face looked like Page Vans

2091
01:38:25,320 --> 01:38:26,080
Speaker 3: dance inbox.

2092
01:38:34,600 --> 01:38:37,439
Speaker 1: All right. The first one was lame, The second one

2093
01:38:37,479 --> 01:38:44,559
Speaker 1: was all right, I could hear myself. That was second

2094
01:38:44,600 --> 01:38:46,160
Speaker 1: one got me. That was surprising.

2095
01:38:46,600 --> 01:38:49,679
Speaker 2: Isn't Frankie's grandma and my and Mikey's grandma like best

2096
01:38:49,680 --> 01:38:53,000
Speaker 2: friends or something like that. Yeah, yeah, we love Frankie,

2097
01:38:53,040 --> 01:38:55,559
Speaker 2: but I mean maybe he can get a podcast on

2098
01:38:55,600 --> 01:38:57,439
Speaker 2: the on the Thick network. Look, you never know, but

2099
01:38:57,479 --> 01:39:00,280
Speaker 2: let's go to the Creed three are today.

2100
01:39:00,280 --> 01:39:02,920
Speaker 1: I'm noticing a lot of skits and bits from ONEBC from.

2101
01:39:02,880 --> 01:39:05,679
Speaker 2: C because Eric Nickson sent a picture of his hog

2102
01:39:05,720 --> 01:39:07,360
Speaker 2: and send it out that that was funny, Luke, okay,

2103
01:39:07,400 --> 01:39:09,880
Speaker 2: all right, it was a continuation of our UK bit.

2104
01:39:09,960 --> 01:39:11,880
Speaker 2: I don't really know where you're going. Hey, Creed three

2105
01:39:11,960 --> 01:39:13,720
Speaker 2: coming out in March. Can't wait? You know who else

2106
01:39:13,720 --> 01:39:17,080
Speaker 2: can't wait for it? Pro boxer's Lawrence Acoli and Richard

2107
01:39:17,120 --> 01:39:22,000
Speaker 2: react Poor who threw down outside the theater at the premiere.

2108
01:39:22,360 --> 01:39:24,640
Speaker 1: Once again, young men of the world, it is not

2109
01:39:24,880 --> 01:39:28,040
Speaker 1: hard to not get in a fist fight at a

2110
01:39:28,120 --> 01:39:32,080
Speaker 1: random establishment out in town. It's actually relatively easily. All

2111
01:39:32,120 --> 01:39:34,680
Speaker 1: you have to do is not fist fight, sir.

2112
01:39:34,800 --> 01:39:37,000
Speaker 2: This is a Baskin Robbins here at the movie theater.

2113
01:39:37,120 --> 01:39:37,920
Speaker 2: Can you please?

2114
01:39:38,520 --> 01:39:40,040
Speaker 1: Also, I think this is one of those high end

2115
01:39:40,120 --> 01:39:43,920
Speaker 1: movie theaters. If I'm not mistaken, they pree Tyson's Corner, Virginia.

2116
01:39:44,479 --> 01:39:46,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an actual premiere. I believe this is in

2117
01:39:46,840 --> 01:39:47,240
Speaker 2: the UK.

2118
01:39:47,400 --> 01:39:52,520
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, fellas not hard to not do this, don't.

2119
01:39:52,240 --> 01:39:55,880
Speaker 2: All right, Hey, great moments in wedding history. All right,

2120
01:39:55,960 --> 01:39:56,960
Speaker 2: let's watch a few of these.

2121
01:39:58,520 --> 01:39:59,719
Speaker 1: Me seeing everyone's val.

2122
01:40:03,840 --> 01:40:06,799
Speaker 2: I mean, what would you do if the officiant just

2123
01:40:06,800 --> 01:40:10,680
Speaker 2: just just lost their breakfast right right on your shoes there?

2124
01:40:11,120 --> 01:40:13,800
Speaker 1: See why BC, did you have a big wedding? Did

2125
01:40:13,840 --> 01:40:14,639
Speaker 1: you have a big wedding?

2126
01:40:15,439 --> 01:40:18,320
Speaker 2: The venue only host whole held two fifty, so it

2127
01:40:18,320 --> 01:40:20,479
Speaker 2: was really hard cutting that, or maybe it was one.

2128
01:40:20,680 --> 01:40:22,680
Speaker 1: You had a huge wedding. That's a big wed dude,

2129
01:40:22,720 --> 01:40:23,240
Speaker 1: we had fifty.

2130
01:40:23,280 --> 01:40:25,400
Speaker 2: No, I'm sorry, it was one fifty. It was one fifty,

2131
01:40:25,479 --> 01:40:27,000
Speaker 2: so it was really hard keeping the day. I have

2132
01:40:27,040 --> 01:40:28,920
Speaker 2: a big family. Look, it was really hard keeping that day.

2133
01:40:29,000 --> 01:40:31,000
Speaker 1: So we had Well, dude, my wife doesn't have a

2134
01:40:31,080 --> 01:40:32,400
Speaker 1: huge family. I mean, my wife become one of the

2135
01:40:32,400 --> 01:40:35,320
Speaker 1: biggest families in the fucking world. But we uh, what

2136
01:40:35,360 --> 01:40:37,000
Speaker 1: we did was we had to pay for it ourselves

2137
01:40:37,040 --> 01:40:38,960
Speaker 1: and do DC. As you well know, it is not cheap,

2138
01:40:39,040 --> 01:40:41,960
Speaker 1: so we had to keep it limited. Dude, have a

2139
01:40:42,040 --> 01:40:44,120
Speaker 1: limited wedding because what these people want to do is

2140
01:40:44,560 --> 01:40:47,320
Speaker 1: they want to have a fairy tale day right where

2141
01:40:47,320 --> 01:40:49,240
Speaker 1: it's the most extravagant. I'm going to be a queen

2142
01:40:49,280 --> 01:40:52,400
Speaker 1: for a day and if anything goes wrong it ruins

2143
01:40:52,439 --> 01:40:54,880
Speaker 1: the day. Well, don't have a day where you just

2144
01:40:55,080 --> 01:40:57,639
Speaker 1: everything has to be perfect and you're asking your amateur

2145
01:40:57,680 --> 01:41:00,000
Speaker 1: friends or whatever to marry you. Yeah, it's gonna be

2146
01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:02,200
Speaker 1: go south, bro. Just keep it light, keep it chill.

2147
01:41:02,439 --> 01:41:04,000
Speaker 2: You know you're not wrong on that. By the way.

2148
01:41:04,040 --> 01:41:06,880
Speaker 2: You realize the day after your own wedding and the

2149
01:41:06,920 --> 01:41:09,400
Speaker 2: craziness that that that was actually not for you. It

2150
01:41:09,520 --> 01:41:12,360
Speaker 2: was for everyone else, you know. And that's cool. You

2151
01:41:12,400 --> 01:41:15,280
Speaker 2: invited them to come enjoy your moment, but it's it's

2152
01:41:15,320 --> 01:41:18,320
Speaker 2: more about everybody else than you. Yeah, luke, let's go

2153
01:41:18,400 --> 01:41:20,839
Speaker 2: to that. You ever have a drunk uncle at a reception,

2154
01:41:20,960 --> 01:41:23,760
Speaker 2: like grab the microphone and start telling inappropriate stories about

2155
01:41:23,800 --> 01:41:26,519
Speaker 2: the grooms like sex past, and you're like, dude, this

2156
01:41:26,600 --> 01:41:27,920
Speaker 2: is not the stage.

2157
01:41:27,560 --> 01:41:30,920
Speaker 1: For it, right. I've seen it on beer commercials and

2158
01:41:31,120 --> 01:41:31,759
Speaker 1: movies nowhere.

2159
01:41:32,040 --> 01:41:34,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, this happened at this wedding. Check it out. Check

2160
01:41:34,479 --> 01:41:35,000
Speaker 2: it out, Luke.

2161
01:41:36,400 --> 01:41:40,639
Speaker 1: Ooh ooh, who's that the DJ?

2162
01:41:41,520 --> 01:41:43,320
Speaker 2: The guy in the right, he just you know, he

2163
01:41:43,400 --> 01:41:49,960
Speaker 2: just ran up start. Oh now, yeah, there it is.

2164
01:41:50,200 --> 01:41:52,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, well pick him up by his dumb ass shirt too.

2165
01:41:53,920 --> 01:41:56,680
Speaker 1: Yeah that's awesome. Well the other guy struck first man.

2166
01:41:56,760 --> 01:41:58,519
Speaker 1: And by the way, based on the language or god

2167
01:41:58,600 --> 01:42:02,000
Speaker 1: knows what that was, you know, someplace with a cyrillic alphabet,

2168
01:42:02,000 --> 01:42:06,599
Speaker 1: I guess one more time, one more time, play this bitch.

2169
01:42:07,000 --> 01:42:07,920
Speaker 2: He wants it again.

2170
01:42:08,800 --> 01:42:10,880
Speaker 1: Yeah see, he kind of delicately touches him as like,

2171
01:42:10,880 --> 01:42:13,800
Speaker 1: ah see, I showed you guy who can barely move

2172
01:42:13,840 --> 01:42:17,479
Speaker 1: and who probably has to you know, have a ah.

2173
01:42:19,280 --> 01:42:21,679
Speaker 2: Well, he didn't get dressed up for the wedding either, Luke.

2174
01:42:21,760 --> 01:42:23,439
Speaker 2: So maybe this is part of it. Maybe this is

2175
01:42:23,520 --> 01:42:26,160
Speaker 2: part of the don't disrespect my family.

2176
01:42:26,240 --> 01:42:27,879
Speaker 1: You know, by the way, that kid in the background

2177
01:42:27,960 --> 01:42:29,960
Speaker 1: is gonna grow up in the most toxic environment ever.

2178
01:42:30,000 --> 01:42:33,240
Speaker 2: But okay, all right, hey tell me if we've played

2179
01:42:33,240 --> 01:42:34,640
Speaker 2: this before. I don't know if we have, but it

2180
01:42:34,720 --> 01:42:37,479
Speaker 2: got me fired up. Watch how hyped up this ball coaches?

2181
01:42:37,520 --> 01:42:38,360
Speaker 2: After this score?

2182
01:42:44,800 --> 01:42:46,240
Speaker 1: I think we have, but I like this.

2183
01:42:46,479 --> 01:42:49,479
Speaker 2: Yeah. Chub Rock was like, yeah, let's celebrate here. Let's

2184
01:42:49,640 --> 01:42:51,040
Speaker 2: you may have hurt your player. He I think he's

2185
01:42:51,040 --> 01:42:53,320
Speaker 2: out all right, Let's keep it going here, Luke. A

2186
01:42:53,320 --> 01:42:56,320
Speaker 2: lot of fighters like to cross over into the rap game.

2187
01:42:56,320 --> 01:42:59,439
Speaker 2: We've seen Deontay Wilder have a music video recently. Remember

2188
01:42:59,439 --> 01:43:01,400
Speaker 2: people forget that Floyd back in the day had his

2189
01:43:01,439 --> 01:43:05,160
Speaker 2: own had his own record company. He was putting out tracks. Well,

2190
01:43:05,200 --> 01:43:08,160
Speaker 2: have you ever been introduced to the guote Claressa Shields

2191
01:43:08,160 --> 01:43:10,280
Speaker 2: the multidivision.

2192
01:43:09,600 --> 01:43:11,280
Speaker 1: On dispute this one.

2193
01:43:11,800 --> 01:43:13,760
Speaker 2: She's got a new single out. Let's hear a part

2194
01:43:13,760 --> 01:43:14,040
Speaker 2: of it.

2195
01:43:14,400 --> 01:43:17,320
Speaker 4: I'm all over the world whooping as you think I'm

2196
01:43:17,320 --> 01:43:19,639
Speaker 4: fighting in the regular you slow mer cray, I got

2197
01:43:19,640 --> 01:43:22,240
Speaker 4: a family to be in the bay and you ain't

2198
01:43:22,280 --> 01:43:28,680
Speaker 4: talking about money. Get broke shit, make my ass.

2199
01:43:30,520 --> 01:43:33,679
Speaker 1: Bro shit, make my ass itch poody tang.

2200
01:43:33,760 --> 01:43:35,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could get into that that track, Look you're

2201
01:43:35,600 --> 01:43:36,040
Speaker 2: into it?

2202
01:43:36,760 --> 01:43:40,880
Speaker 1: No, No. I like Clarissa's Shields, but somebody should have

2203
01:43:40,880 --> 01:43:43,080
Speaker 1: warned her about that one. Broke shit make my ass

2204
01:43:43,120 --> 01:43:46,000
Speaker 1: itch is the idea there where like if you take

2205
01:43:46,040 --> 01:43:48,520
Speaker 1: a gross dump and it broke.

2206
01:43:49,439 --> 01:43:52,479
Speaker 2: Oh god, come on, and then.

2207
01:43:52,160 --> 01:43:54,080
Speaker 1: Mean it makes your butt itch? You know, like you

2208
01:43:54,120 --> 01:43:55,840
Speaker 1: know how like a dog's never wipe their rear end,

2209
01:43:55,840 --> 01:43:57,720
Speaker 1: but it just stays clean. Is that what I mean?

2210
01:43:57,720 --> 01:43:59,200
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't really know what's happening here.

2211
01:43:59,240 --> 01:44:01,320
Speaker 2: Did she say grow shit or quote shit?

2212
01:44:01,400 --> 01:44:02,000
Speaker 1: I don't.

2213
01:44:02,000 --> 01:44:03,240
Speaker 2: I didn't hear it went by quick.

2214
01:44:03,520 --> 01:44:06,280
Speaker 1: All I heard was broke shit. Make my ass itch.

2215
01:44:07,040 --> 01:44:09,080
Speaker 1: You see, there's lots of things that make my ass shit.

2216
01:44:09,160 --> 01:44:10,840
Speaker 1: People being poor is not one of them.

2217
01:44:11,000 --> 01:44:14,320
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Luke, Hey, Jalen Rose, you know that

2218
01:44:14,439 --> 01:44:19,160
Speaker 2: NBA legend right broadcaster used to be married to. Yeah,

2219
01:44:19,160 --> 01:44:21,280
Speaker 2: he's got a take on haircuts that you might agree with.

2220
01:44:21,360 --> 01:44:25,439
Speaker 1: Apparently, the minimum you're supposed to be spending for a

2221
01:44:25,520 --> 01:44:28,680
Speaker 1: quality barber is one hundred dollars. So many guys and

2222
01:44:28,680 --> 01:44:30,840
Speaker 1: people out there think y'all gonna show up and get

2223
01:44:30,880 --> 01:44:31,799
Speaker 1: a fly haircut.

2224
01:44:34,439 --> 01:44:40,479
Speaker 2: Finally, finally somebody gets you. You're speaking his language.

2225
01:44:40,920 --> 01:44:43,200
Speaker 1: First of all, I have, I mean, you guys have

2226
01:44:43,280 --> 01:44:45,320
Speaker 1: just absolutely haircut shamed me. So I've had to go

2227
01:44:45,360 --> 01:44:47,320
Speaker 1: to a cheaper place. Now I spend about fifty bucks.

2228
01:44:47,360 --> 01:44:51,840
Speaker 2: I spent about half, So look for twenty six. I

2229
01:44:51,920 --> 01:44:54,679
Speaker 2: get the wash, the massage, the.

2230
01:44:54,800 --> 01:44:59,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, your haircut looks like a barber student just experimented

2231
01:44:59,360 --> 01:45:01,559
Speaker 1: on you. I mean, and you're not a shiny example

2232
01:45:01,600 --> 01:45:02,519
Speaker 1: of a great haircut.

2233
01:45:02,960 --> 01:45:06,120
Speaker 2: Well maybe not right now, but yeah, yeah, I.

2234
01:45:06,040 --> 01:45:10,800
Speaker 1: Think I will say I will say, like, obviously, if

2235
01:45:10,840 --> 01:45:14,080
Speaker 1: you live in Topeka, Kansas, do they even have anyone

2236
01:45:14,080 --> 01:45:15,560
Speaker 1: there who cuts hair for one hundred dollars? But it

2237
01:45:15,600 --> 01:45:19,439
Speaker 1: doesn't even exist, it's not relevant. But I will say this, BC,

2238
01:45:19,760 --> 01:45:22,439
Speaker 1: I will say this, if you had Jalen Rose's money

2239
01:45:23,400 --> 01:45:26,519
Speaker 1: and you were on TV, you'd be getting one hundred

2240
01:45:26,520 --> 01:45:27,679
Speaker 1: dollars haircuts, bitch.

2241
01:45:27,800 --> 01:45:32,679
Speaker 2: Dude, my my dream, because haircuts are They're magical moments

2242
01:45:32,840 --> 01:45:35,599
Speaker 2: in the mundane life of an adult male. Meaning Luke.

2243
01:45:35,680 --> 01:45:37,720
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I'm not a I'm not a

2244
01:45:37,800 --> 01:45:41,280
Speaker 2: notorious or vain enough to be staring in the mirror.

2245
01:45:41,280 --> 01:45:43,800
Speaker 2: But if you're walking by a mirror and you've just

2246
01:45:43,840 --> 01:45:46,679
Speaker 2: gotten a haircut recently, you know, you you perk up, Luke,

2247
01:45:46,680 --> 01:45:48,519
Speaker 2: You start to feel young again, you know what I mean?

2248
01:45:48,640 --> 01:45:51,479
Speaker 2: Like you just it changes a man. I'm the type

2249
01:45:51,479 --> 01:45:53,680
Speaker 2: of guy that would be I'd spare no expense if

2250
01:45:53,720 --> 01:45:56,280
Speaker 2: I made good money and had a barber out part

2251
01:45:56,280 --> 01:45:57,280
Speaker 2: of my traveling team.

2252
01:45:57,520 --> 01:46:02,160
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, if I had Aalen Rose money, I'd have

2253
01:46:02,200 --> 01:46:04,719
Speaker 1: a barber as a traveling team. I'd have my tattoo

2254
01:46:04,720 --> 01:46:05,880
Speaker 1: guy as a traveling team.

2255
01:46:06,320 --> 01:46:09,519
Speaker 2: Wow, how about we'll get Moniche's guy, Neon Dion from

2256
01:46:09,640 --> 01:46:11,280
Speaker 2: Jersey City. That would be my guy on the road.

2257
01:46:11,280 --> 01:46:14,120
Speaker 2: All right, he'd live with me. You know what I'm saying. Oh, Mikey,

2258
01:46:14,360 --> 01:46:16,840
Speaker 2: Mikey would hire a joint roller, he says.

2259
01:46:16,840 --> 01:46:19,479
Speaker 1: On the travel team, I bet you would. Yeah, I

2260
01:46:19,479 --> 01:46:20,559
Speaker 1: bet you would, Mikey.

2261
01:46:21,080 --> 01:46:24,080
Speaker 2: Mike He's like, could you get CTE from THC. I'm

2262
01:46:24,080 --> 01:46:25,080
Speaker 2: willing to find out, you know.

2263
01:46:25,280 --> 01:46:28,360
Speaker 1: He's like, I'm trying. I'm trying. I'm really I'm putting in.

2264
01:46:28,479 --> 01:46:29,840
Speaker 1: I'm putting in a yeoman's effort.

2265
01:46:29,880 --> 01:46:34,519
Speaker 2: There, luc it's time to play everyone's favorite game. Rate

2266
01:46:34,760 --> 01:46:37,040
Speaker 2: that tatt Are you ready, Luke?

2267
01:46:37,400 --> 01:46:38,760
Speaker 1: Let's do it all right?

2268
01:46:38,960 --> 01:46:39,080
Speaker 4: Uh?

2269
01:46:39,200 --> 01:46:41,559
Speaker 2: Thug Rose on the arm time. You know, this is

2270
01:46:41,760 --> 01:46:44,400
Speaker 2: arguably my favorite fighter. But is this your favorite tattoo? Luke?

2271
01:46:45,120 --> 01:46:47,240
Speaker 1: So the guy who does this, I forget his name.

2272
01:46:47,360 --> 01:46:49,479
Speaker 1: He does all tattoos in this style where he'll get

2273
01:46:49,479 --> 01:46:54,120
Speaker 1: a famous figure and then tattoo like graffiti on their face. Yeah,

2274
01:46:54,240 --> 01:46:55,800
Speaker 1: that's an excellent tattoo. That's it.

2275
01:46:55,840 --> 01:46:58,759
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't like it at all. To be fair, Luke, it's.

2276
01:46:58,720 --> 01:47:02,080
Speaker 1: Kind of okay. Okay, So from the artistic perspective, you

2277
01:47:02,120 --> 01:47:02,640
Speaker 1: don't like it.

2278
01:47:02,680 --> 01:47:05,439
Speaker 2: Correct, Well, I don't know if I get it. What

2279
01:47:05,520 --> 01:47:07,640
Speaker 2: is that black stuff coming out of her mouth? It

2280
01:47:07,680 --> 01:47:10,160
Speaker 2: looks like that pee Wee's remember that pee Wee's Adventure

2281
01:47:10,200 --> 01:47:12,360
Speaker 2: movie when he made the fat guy chew the trick gum.

2282
01:47:12,439 --> 01:47:14,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, part of it is. Part of it is it's

2283
01:47:14,439 --> 01:47:16,960
Speaker 1: going to dry up and lighten up a little bit later.

2284
01:47:17,479 --> 01:47:18,960
Speaker 1: The other thing I'd say is it just looks like

2285
01:47:19,080 --> 01:47:22,559
Speaker 1: it's partly like, you know, purple from bruising from the

2286
01:47:22,880 --> 01:47:27,200
Speaker 1: from the for the actual bruising on her on this

2287
01:47:27,240 --> 01:47:31,360
Speaker 1: person's arm. Yeah, so you know, Leah, you can't it

2288
01:47:31,439 --> 01:47:34,040
Speaker 1: always new tattoos always look a little pink and purple.

2289
01:47:34,040 --> 01:47:35,200
Speaker 1: As you have to wait a little bit.

2290
01:47:35,360 --> 01:47:36,960
Speaker 2: All right, Can we go to the Dan Hooker one?

2291
01:47:37,000 --> 01:47:38,960
Speaker 2: Now this was a late ad, Thank you, gaff. Can

2292
01:47:39,000 --> 01:47:42,559
Speaker 2: you insert Dan Hooker's new tattoo. I want to get

2293
01:47:42,600 --> 01:47:44,600
Speaker 2: your thoughts. We got two pictures here, we're going to

2294
01:47:44,640 --> 01:47:45,360
Speaker 2: zoom in this time.

2295
01:47:45,400 --> 01:47:48,800
Speaker 1: Here we go. So that's also brand new, and it's

2296
01:47:48,800 --> 01:47:49,479
Speaker 1: a little purple.

2297
01:47:50,720 --> 01:47:53,240
Speaker 2: Now would you would you shame him if you found

2298
01:47:53,280 --> 01:47:55,680
Speaker 2: out he was administered in IV in order to get this?

2299
01:47:56,320 --> 01:47:59,320
Speaker 1: No, because I wouldn't care. It looks to me like

2300
01:47:59,360 --> 01:48:01,800
Speaker 1: it's unfair. It looks to me like this is the

2301
01:48:01,800 --> 01:48:08,000
Speaker 1: beginning of a piece. I would say it's good. I

2302
01:48:08,000 --> 01:48:14,120
Speaker 1: wouldn't call it great, but it's good. Okay, But it's unfinished.

2303
01:48:14,120 --> 01:48:15,759
Speaker 1: So let's see what it looks like when it's done.

2304
01:48:16,120 --> 01:48:18,240
Speaker 2: Is it better or worse than Alexander Volkov?

2305
01:48:20,680 --> 01:48:22,920
Speaker 1: I don't have that front of mine. I think his

2306
01:48:23,080 --> 01:48:24,559
Speaker 1: is better, but I'm not sure.

2307
01:48:24,800 --> 01:48:28,080
Speaker 2: Okay, Hey, let's go to Nieman Gracie, the former Belator

2308
01:48:28,439 --> 01:48:31,280
Speaker 2: welterweight title challenger, still a contender in that game, Luke,

2309
01:48:31,560 --> 01:48:33,800
Speaker 2: he got his left forearm done. I want to get

2310
01:48:33,800 --> 01:48:34,800
Speaker 2: your thoughts.

2311
01:48:35,479 --> 01:48:41,320
Speaker 1: Okay, that's an intricate piece, getting a lion. That's what

2312
01:48:41,360 --> 01:48:42,240
Speaker 1: every athlete does.

2313
01:48:44,600 --> 01:48:46,679
Speaker 2: You know, this is from This is how the sausage

2314
01:48:46,680 --> 01:48:49,920
Speaker 2: gets made. Here with the tracing right with that? Is

2315
01:48:49,920 --> 01:48:51,120
Speaker 2: that how it's always done, Luke, That.

2316
01:48:51,120 --> 01:48:54,640
Speaker 1: Purple me some guys. Some guys will free hand it completely.

2317
01:48:55,040 --> 01:48:57,439
Speaker 1: Most people use a stencil. That's what you're talking about there.

2318
01:48:57,800 --> 01:49:03,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know that kind of looks like our camera

2319
01:49:03,960 --> 01:49:06,120
Speaker 2: guy Tristan's arm to a certain degree, although he's got

2320
01:49:06,200 --> 01:49:07,479
Speaker 2: more rabbit animals on there.

2321
01:49:07,520 --> 01:49:11,120
Speaker 1: Like, Yeah, I don't love it. I don't love it.

2322
01:49:11,120 --> 01:49:16,920
Speaker 1: It's a little it's artistically it's not my favorite and

2323
01:49:18,600 --> 01:49:22,000
Speaker 1: from an application standpoint, like, so look at the lion

2324
01:49:22,120 --> 01:49:27,120
Speaker 1: s like, there's no the edging is the white spacing

2325
01:49:27,280 --> 01:49:30,439
Speaker 1: between her head and the rest of the lion, which

2326
01:49:30,479 --> 01:49:34,000
Speaker 1: I'm not really a fan of. From an artistic style,

2327
01:49:34,640 --> 01:49:36,559
Speaker 1: does it create enough separation between characters?

2328
01:49:36,680 --> 01:49:39,479
Speaker 2: So, so are you putting this in the heboss bin

2329
01:49:39,600 --> 01:49:39,880
Speaker 2: or what?

2330
01:49:40,240 --> 01:49:42,960
Speaker 1: No, it's better than that. It's better than that, but

2331
01:49:42,960 --> 01:49:48,000
Speaker 1: it's not my favorite. Well, so athletes, stop getting clouds, heavens,

2332
01:49:48,200 --> 01:49:52,120
Speaker 1: lions or pocket watches on you because every other athlete

2333
01:49:52,200 --> 01:49:53,360
Speaker 1: is doing that.

2334
01:49:53,360 --> 01:49:56,720
Speaker 2: That's true. Hey, bikini sisson is almost upon us. So

2335
01:49:56,840 --> 01:49:59,080
Speaker 2: check out this backtat Luke. I want to get your

2336
01:49:59,080 --> 01:50:00,519
Speaker 2: thoughts here on this beautif lady.

2337
01:50:01,160 --> 01:50:02,680
Speaker 1: Well, first of all, she's a ten out of ten.

2338
01:50:02,760 --> 01:50:05,080
Speaker 1: Let's just let's just start the conversation where it starts.

2339
01:50:07,040 --> 01:50:09,280
Speaker 2: I mean, you're a big fan of tatted ash cheeks,

2340
01:50:09,320 --> 01:50:10,479
Speaker 2: so that's why we presented this.

2341
01:50:10,560 --> 01:50:12,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is this is uh, this is up your

2342
01:50:12,479 --> 01:50:13,439
Speaker 1: boys alley right here.

2343
01:50:13,960 --> 01:50:16,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's just because of the of the canvas,

2344
01:50:16,360 --> 01:50:17,439
Speaker 2: not the work, you know.

2345
01:50:18,360 --> 01:50:21,280
Speaker 1: Uh, I mean I wouldn't get that tattoo. You're asking me,

2346
01:50:21,360 --> 01:50:23,760
Speaker 1: is it a good tattoo? It's well applied. I don't

2347
01:50:23,760 --> 01:50:27,200
Speaker 1: know if artistically that's again though, like people get these

2348
01:50:27,240 --> 01:50:30,479
Speaker 1: for themselves, they're not getting it for you. Well, what

2349
01:50:30,600 --> 01:50:32,519
Speaker 1: you're really ask is it applied well and is it

2350
01:50:32,600 --> 01:50:33,639
Speaker 1: artistically coherent?

2351
01:50:33,920 --> 01:50:35,640
Speaker 2: I disagree if you're getting attatched. And this is my

2352
01:50:35,680 --> 01:50:38,800
Speaker 2: personal opinion. You know, my opinion on tattoos largely sucks

2353
01:50:38,800 --> 01:50:41,360
Speaker 2: because I'm not in the game. But if I feel like,

2354
01:50:41,400 --> 01:50:44,160
Speaker 2: if you're getting a tattoo any place you can't see

2355
01:50:44,160 --> 01:50:46,960
Speaker 2: it on your back, on your ash cheeks, whatever, you're

2356
01:50:46,960 --> 01:50:49,639
Speaker 2: not getting it for you. You're getting it for others

2357
01:50:49,680 --> 01:50:52,679
Speaker 2: to either be odd or to.

2358
01:50:52,000 --> 01:50:54,400
Speaker 1: To be it can be. There can be all kinds

2359
01:50:54,400 --> 01:50:56,680
Speaker 1: of reasons why you would want to get your back tattooed,

2360
01:50:56,760 --> 01:51:02,960
Speaker 1: like or I can't see I have I have, No,

2361
01:51:03,000 --> 01:51:06,160
Speaker 1: that's not quite true for me, but to get the

2362
01:51:06,200 --> 01:51:09,400
Speaker 1: piece done correctly. There's all kinds of symbolism and meaning.

2363
01:51:09,479 --> 01:51:13,920
Speaker 1: Historically within the tattooed traditions themselves. That's especially true of Japanese,

2364
01:51:14,000 --> 01:51:16,800
Speaker 1: but not alone. Polynesian tattoos are like this as well,

2365
01:51:17,120 --> 01:51:20,120
Speaker 1: or Pacific Islanders. I should say, so that's not exactly

2366
01:51:20,200 --> 01:51:25,519
Speaker 1: true that it's strictly for you this one. Sorry if

2367
01:51:25,560 --> 01:51:27,200
Speaker 1: you can't see it's for someone else. But I mean,

2368
01:51:27,200 --> 01:51:28,960
Speaker 1: it's just it's a weird thing to argue. You see,

2369
01:51:29,000 --> 01:51:30,720
Speaker 1: like I carry these wherever I go, whether I have

2370
01:51:30,760 --> 01:51:33,080
Speaker 1: short sleeve or long sleeve. It can't be true that

2371
01:51:33,120 --> 01:51:36,080
Speaker 1: when I walk into a Walmart, whether these are visible

2372
01:51:36,200 --> 01:51:39,280
Speaker 1: or not to anyone else, it's for these people around me.

2373
01:51:39,760 --> 01:51:42,519
Speaker 1: It's not for them. It's for me. You can like

2374
01:51:42,560 --> 01:51:44,120
Speaker 1: it or you cannot like it. That's up to you.

2375
01:51:44,160 --> 01:51:45,760
Speaker 1: But I didn't get it full. I like the way

2376
01:51:45,800 --> 01:51:49,559
Speaker 1: it looks on me, but I didn't get it for that.

2377
01:51:49,960 --> 01:51:50,479
Speaker 1: For you.

2378
01:51:50,160 --> 01:51:53,400
Speaker 2: You like what it says about you, Yeah, I.

2379
01:51:53,439 --> 01:51:55,479
Speaker 1: Like what it says on me, not not what it

2380
01:51:55,479 --> 01:51:56,240
Speaker 1: says about me.

2381
01:51:56,640 --> 01:51:59,519
Speaker 2: Tattooing has its traditions, but so is weightlifting. Luke and

2382
01:51:59,560 --> 01:52:02,280
Speaker 2: true life jens like Ronnie Coleman have consistently showed us

2383
01:52:02,320 --> 01:52:05,800
Speaker 2: that you can protect your hands and still be a

2384
01:52:05,800 --> 01:52:08,080
Speaker 2: weightlifting legend. Let's induct another You geuys are going.

2385
01:52:08,040 --> 01:52:11,000
Speaker 1: To die on this hill, but you're gonna die. It's okay, Well.

2386
01:52:10,920 --> 01:52:12,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna die one day, Luke, But I want to

2387
01:52:12,680 --> 01:52:15,360
Speaker 2: induct somebody else into the weightlifting Hall of Fame? Who

2388
01:52:15,439 --> 01:52:19,679
Speaker 2: will have He's not on on callous hands. His name

2389
01:52:20,520 --> 01:52:22,040
Speaker 2: Quentin Rampage Jackson.

2390
01:52:24,400 --> 01:52:27,000
Speaker 1: I haven't seen this. He's got twenty fives on each side?

2391
01:52:27,040 --> 01:52:28,000
Speaker 1: What the fuck is he doing?

2392
01:52:28,360 --> 01:52:31,240
Speaker 2: He's lifted, he's becoming a better person and a better man,

2393
01:52:31,400 --> 01:52:33,680
Speaker 2: and the gloves are helping him get there. So I saluted, dude.

2394
01:52:33,720 --> 01:52:35,200
Speaker 1: This is not a lot of weight for him to

2395
01:52:35,240 --> 01:52:38,240
Speaker 1: be struggling that much. And these are partial reps too.

2396
01:52:39,040 --> 01:52:40,120
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, are you what are you going

2397
01:52:40,200 --> 01:52:41,519
Speaker 2: to try to DC shame him here?

2398
01:52:41,560 --> 01:52:44,599
Speaker 1: Luke? Dude, this is fifty so that's one hundred pounds

2399
01:52:44,600 --> 01:52:46,439
Speaker 1: a side, right, because you got or how many? How

2400
01:52:46,439 --> 01:52:48,680
Speaker 1: many twenty fives on each side? I can't one to

2401
01:52:50,840 --> 01:52:53,160
Speaker 1: one too? What is he doing? Just yeah, he's got

2402
01:52:53,200 --> 01:52:56,000
Speaker 1: three so this is seventy five a side. Dude, that

2403
01:52:56,120 --> 01:52:56,719
Speaker 1: is nothing.

2404
01:52:57,360 --> 01:52:59,559
Speaker 2: Okay, you tell him that, all right. I'm fine with

2405
01:52:59,600 --> 01:53:01,040
Speaker 2: the glove. I'm okay with this all right.

2406
01:53:01,360 --> 01:53:03,720
Speaker 1: Based on this, based on the positioning, it looks like

2407
01:53:03,720 --> 01:53:08,880
Speaker 1: it's an incline press. Yeah, this is all kinds.

2408
01:53:08,640 --> 01:53:12,000
Speaker 2: Of all right. Hey, let's go to the boxing recap

2409
01:53:12,040 --> 01:53:14,920
Speaker 2: from the weekend. Luke. This was Showbox from Topeka opening

2410
01:53:14,920 --> 01:53:19,679
Speaker 2: about junior welterweights. This is Kurt Scooby on the right.

2411
01:53:20,200 --> 01:53:23,960
Speaker 2: He would drop John Manu of Australia four times and

2412
01:53:24,120 --> 01:53:26,519
Speaker 2: route to a TKO two. But the cool story here

2413
01:53:26,560 --> 01:53:30,000
Speaker 2: is that Scooby was a star high school running back.

2414
01:53:30,280 --> 01:53:32,320
Speaker 2: He walked down at Fresno State. He ended up being

2415
01:53:32,320 --> 01:53:35,880
Speaker 2: a star at D three Azusa Pacific Big time running back.

2416
01:53:35,920 --> 01:53:39,080
Speaker 2: Weigh two hundred and fifteen pounds. Now he's down to

2417
01:53:39,160 --> 01:53:41,880
Speaker 2: one forty and he's an unbeaten boxer. This was a

2418
01:53:41,880 --> 01:53:42,960
Speaker 2: hell of a performance. Wrong.

2419
01:53:43,120 --> 01:53:45,920
Speaker 1: Showbox always gets the main card guys to always take

2420
01:53:45,920 --> 01:53:48,200
Speaker 1: a picture after the weigh ends together, or they usually

2421
01:53:48,240 --> 01:53:50,840
Speaker 1: do anyway, and they did here and BC I was

2422
01:53:50,880 --> 01:53:53,760
Speaker 1: gonna say something of all the guys, like because they're

2423
01:53:53,760 --> 01:53:55,519
Speaker 1: all you know, they're all just like making a fist

2424
01:53:55,640 --> 01:53:58,920
Speaker 1: or whatever he pops out on that screen, because everyone

2425
01:53:59,000 --> 01:54:01,200
Speaker 1: is in good shape, but they're all slender. When you

2426
01:54:01,200 --> 01:54:02,840
Speaker 1: told me he was a high school running back or

2427
01:54:02,880 --> 01:54:06,200
Speaker 1: whatever for previous running back. You can tell he looks

2428
01:54:06,280 --> 01:54:08,559
Speaker 1: like a million dollars so to speak, getting off the

2429
01:54:08,560 --> 01:54:10,839
Speaker 1: bus man he is. He is jacked.

2430
01:54:11,080 --> 01:54:14,280
Speaker 2: He had a very very rough childhood that he's persevered through.

2431
01:54:14,320 --> 01:54:16,920
Speaker 2: He's very impressive in terms of interviewing him. Has you know,

2432
01:54:17,000 --> 01:54:20,559
Speaker 2: believes that his career is going to influence and inspire

2433
01:54:20,600 --> 01:54:22,880
Speaker 2: a lot of people. But it's early. He's still kind

2434
01:54:22,880 --> 01:54:24,759
Speaker 2: of raw. But this was a hell of a strong

2435
01:54:24,800 --> 01:54:27,000
Speaker 2: performance here, somebody to watch. If you can get another

2436
01:54:27,000 --> 01:54:29,400
Speaker 2: opportunity here on showbox in the future, let's go to

2437
01:54:29,439 --> 01:54:32,920
Speaker 2: the Zone from Nottingham. Here's on the undercard. Dalton Smith

2438
01:54:33,040 --> 01:54:36,120
Speaker 2: would only get a warning for this of what he

2439
01:54:36,160 --> 01:54:41,960
Speaker 2: did to Billy Allington. Look at this, Luke, dude.

2440
01:54:42,160 --> 01:54:46,320
Speaker 1: There's a thing called shoot boxing, which is kickboxing with takedowns.

2441
01:54:46,880 --> 01:54:49,960
Speaker 1: It's where obviously San Chao is pretty similar they do.

2442
01:54:50,000 --> 01:54:51,840
Speaker 1: It's kind of the same kind of thing where it's

2443
01:54:51,960 --> 01:54:55,280
Speaker 1: wrestling with or I just say, takedowns with striking. It's

2444
01:54:55,320 --> 01:54:57,480
Speaker 1: a great sport. I can't believe it's not more popular.

2445
01:54:57,480 --> 01:54:58,320
Speaker 1: It's fucking awesome.

2446
01:54:59,480 --> 01:55:01,880
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, we've seen this before. Remember when Chad Dawson

2447
01:55:01,960 --> 01:55:03,840
Speaker 2: dumped Bernard Hopkins on his shoulder and then they had

2448
01:55:03,840 --> 01:55:05,800
Speaker 2: a call off to fight. That was weird, But yeah,

2449
01:55:05,840 --> 01:55:08,120
Speaker 2: this was weird too. Hey, let's go to Mauricio Lara

2450
01:55:08,160 --> 01:55:11,879
Speaker 2: on this main event. We talked about it against Leewood

2451
01:55:12,080 --> 01:55:14,600
Speaker 2: down on the scorecards. Here's that left hook from hell,

2452
01:55:14,840 --> 01:55:17,240
Speaker 2: just a beautiful shot that forced the knock down.

2453
01:55:17,280 --> 01:55:23,880
Speaker 1: A round said, come on, look at this and see

2454
01:55:23,920 --> 01:55:26,680
Speaker 1: he gets up and he's kind of like, ah.

2455
01:55:26,000 --> 01:55:28,880
Speaker 2: He is wobbly. This does support the stoppage more. And

2456
01:55:28,960 --> 01:55:30,720
Speaker 2: when you're watching the video here but here comes to

2457
01:55:30,760 --> 01:55:31,560
Speaker 2: twel'll watch out.

2458
01:55:32,080 --> 01:55:33,720
Speaker 1: I mean Laura was ready to go in there and

2459
01:55:33,840 --> 01:55:36,080
Speaker 1: murder him. Let's be honest, dude, Laura had that thing

2460
01:55:36,160 --> 01:55:38,280
Speaker 1: cocked back and ready to go. Although to your point

2461
01:55:38,280 --> 01:55:41,560
Speaker 1: with the BKFC thing with Mike Richmond getting slept, you know,

2462
01:55:41,640 --> 01:55:44,280
Speaker 1: one never knows, one never knows, one never knows. That's

2463
01:55:44,280 --> 01:55:46,080
Speaker 1: the reality. We just don't know what would have happened.

2464
01:55:46,120 --> 01:55:50,080
Speaker 1: But they definitely have a strong argument for saving him

2465
01:55:50,080 --> 01:55:51,440
Speaker 1: from a terrible, terrible ko.

2466
01:55:51,880 --> 01:55:54,959
Speaker 2: Well, Lara's now the featherweight champion, if you remember, he's

2467
01:55:55,000 --> 01:55:57,920
Speaker 2: from Mexico, but he made his name upsetting and stopping

2468
01:55:58,000 --> 01:56:01,640
Speaker 2: Josh Warrington. They had an immediate remich was a I

2469
01:56:01,680 --> 01:56:04,920
Speaker 2: believe it no contest, Luke from an accidental foul. So

2470
01:56:05,120 --> 01:56:08,760
Speaker 2: right after the victory, here's what Mauricio Lara did, went

2471
01:56:08,800 --> 01:56:11,600
Speaker 2: over to the ropes where Josh Warrington wasn't spit right

2472
01:56:12,200 --> 01:56:12,720
Speaker 2: your thoughts.

2473
01:56:12,760 --> 01:56:19,640
Speaker 1: Oh that is so low class, that is so low class.

2474
01:56:19,920 --> 01:56:23,920
Speaker 2: Oh wow, love it, Love it, dude.

2475
01:56:23,960 --> 01:56:25,240
Speaker 1: That's some dirtbag shit.

2476
01:56:25,560 --> 01:56:27,840
Speaker 2: That's well, who knows what was said between them. They

2477
01:56:27,880 --> 01:56:29,800
Speaker 2: definitely have a rivalry. A lot of people would love

2478
01:56:29,840 --> 01:56:31,840
Speaker 2: to see, I guess a third fight, but kind of

2479
01:56:31,880 --> 01:56:34,600
Speaker 2: technically a rematch in some ways also de zone over

2480
01:56:34,600 --> 01:56:36,400
Speaker 2: the weekend, Luke, we got to shout this out. We'd

2481
01:56:36,400 --> 01:56:39,480
Speaker 2: be remiss if we didn't. Pomona, California and in the

2482
01:56:39,520 --> 01:56:43,400
Speaker 2: main event, former bandon Weight world champion Luisnery trying to

2483
01:56:43,440 --> 01:56:45,320
Speaker 2: put his career back on track at one twenty two.

2484
01:56:45,760 --> 01:56:49,480
Speaker 2: This was against Armenian Azot Jovian Asen Luke. They put

2485
01:56:49,520 --> 01:56:52,600
Speaker 2: on what people are calling a Fight of the Year contender.

2486
01:56:52,840 --> 01:56:55,480
Speaker 2: We rewatched it, dude. It was mayhem.

2487
01:56:56,000 --> 01:56:58,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw parts of it too. It was nuts.

2488
01:56:58,240 --> 01:57:01,720
Speaker 1: I did not expect anything out of this over delivered dramatically.

2489
01:57:02,640 --> 01:57:05,640
Speaker 2: Well, they would just just really throw bombs at each

2490
01:57:05,640 --> 01:57:07,760
Speaker 2: other the whole fight exactly like this. Let's fast forward

2491
01:57:07,800 --> 01:57:12,920
Speaker 2: to round eleven. Neary would drop him once more, but

2492
01:57:13,000 --> 01:57:15,160
Speaker 2: hovan Asen would be saved by the bell and they

2493
01:57:15,160 --> 01:57:17,280
Speaker 2: would actually go to the twelfth. I'm sorry, they'd go

2494
01:57:17,280 --> 01:57:19,960
Speaker 2: to the eleventh, where the final stoppage would happen. Here's

2495
01:57:19,960 --> 01:57:21,920
Speaker 2: the end of round ten. Though it looked like he

2496
01:57:22,000 --> 01:57:23,720
Speaker 2: was done, Luke, but your boy got up.

2497
01:57:24,560 --> 01:57:28,600
Speaker 1: Armenians are tough, bro, They are very, very tough people.

2498
01:57:31,360 --> 01:57:35,240
Speaker 2: He would survive that NEARI yeah, Neary would get the

2499
01:57:35,240 --> 01:57:37,640
Speaker 2: stoppage in the twelfth, A big win for Luis Nari.

2500
01:57:37,720 --> 01:57:40,800
Speaker 2: But what a war worth everybody's time if you want

2501
01:57:40,840 --> 01:57:43,120
Speaker 2: to check it out. And here is promoter Oscar de

2502
01:57:43,280 --> 01:57:46,240
Speaker 2: la Hoya ringside Luke, fake abs and all just losing

2503
01:57:46,520 --> 01:57:48,320
Speaker 2: his shit during the main event.

2504
01:57:50,080 --> 01:57:52,120
Speaker 1: How often does he pull his shirt up to show

2505
01:57:52,160 --> 01:57:52,640
Speaker 1: his abs?

2506
01:57:52,920 --> 01:57:54,840
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I was waiting for it. It didn't happen, dude.

2507
01:57:54,920 --> 01:57:57,480
Speaker 1: Every post he puts on social these days is just

2508
01:57:57,520 --> 01:57:58,720
Speaker 1: his abs for no reason.

2509
01:57:58,960 --> 01:58:01,280
Speaker 2: I mean, just turn fifty, Luke. He's got a beautiful wife.

2510
01:58:01,320 --> 01:58:03,280
Speaker 2: He's showing off a bit. You know, he's happy.

2511
01:58:04,520 --> 01:58:06,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad he's happy. I'm glad he's happy.

2512
01:58:07,560 --> 01:58:11,600
Speaker 2: Do you know he was nineteen ninety two Olympic roommate

2513
01:58:12,120 --> 01:58:13,760
Speaker 2: of Raoul Marquez and Barcelona.

2514
01:58:13,800 --> 01:58:16,240
Speaker 1: You know Raoul from Showbox right, Barcelona.

2515
01:58:16,840 --> 01:58:19,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were, they were, they were, they were roommates

2516
01:58:19,480 --> 01:58:21,680
Speaker 2: there on that trip. And you know, Raoul said, even

2517
01:58:21,720 --> 01:58:24,160
Speaker 2: though he's also fifty, Luke, he'd fight Oscar tomorrow if

2518
01:58:24,200 --> 01:58:25,080
Speaker 2: somebody put the money up.

2519
01:58:25,120 --> 01:58:27,640
Speaker 1: Okay, let's get that. Let's get that fight made.

2520
01:58:27,960 --> 01:58:30,160
Speaker 2: Okay, let's do it. Let's do it, all right. A

2521
01:58:30,160 --> 01:58:31,600
Speaker 2: couple more on the way out here in Luke. The

2522
01:58:31,640 --> 01:58:33,800
Speaker 2: Eagles did not win the Super Bowl, but before the

2523
01:58:33,840 --> 01:58:37,040
Speaker 2: game even started, their fans were going nuts, you into

2524
01:58:37,080 --> 01:58:37,839
Speaker 2: flipping cars.

2525
01:58:38,120 --> 01:58:41,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, Philly fans are really just absolute degenerates.

2526
01:58:41,200 --> 01:58:42,920
Speaker 1: Let's just be honest about that. I mean, they're just

2527
01:58:42,960 --> 01:58:45,720
Speaker 1: the worst of the worst. Look at these fucking hooligans,

2528
01:58:46,200 --> 01:58:49,000
Speaker 1: all right, Where are the parents? Really? Is what you

2529
01:58:49,000 --> 01:58:52,480
Speaker 1: got to ask about? These about these white folks. Look

2530
01:58:52,520 --> 01:58:56,040
Speaker 1: at him, they're almost high enough. Twenty years ago, BC,

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01:58:56,160 --> 01:58:57,600
Speaker 1: I'd be on top of that car. I mean, that's

2532
01:58:57,600 --> 01:59:00,960
Speaker 1: just the damn right. What a piece of shit, I am. Yeah.

2533
01:59:01,080 --> 01:59:03,240
Speaker 2: Probably for like the Capitols winning like a first round

2534
01:59:03,360 --> 01:59:05,920
Speaker 2: NHL Stanley Cup Series. You would have just not even

2535
01:59:06,360 --> 01:59:08,879
Speaker 2: you just wanted to rage against any exactly.

2536
01:59:09,160 --> 01:59:11,760
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even need a good reason, just fucking do it.

2537
01:59:11,880 --> 01:59:14,040
Speaker 1: I remember one time due we went drunken. We went

2538
01:59:14,160 --> 01:59:17,760
Speaker 1: drunkenly rampaging through Charlottesville, Virginia. Have you ever been to Charlotonville, Virginia?

2539
01:59:18,360 --> 01:59:19,760
Speaker 2: Is that what college is there?

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01:59:20,120 --> 01:59:21,280
Speaker 1: Yeah? UVA is there? Oh?

2541
01:59:21,360 --> 01:59:23,440
Speaker 2: Uva? Okay, uh, I've ever done there.

2542
01:59:23,560 --> 01:59:26,520
Speaker 1: It's it's just it's spectacular. The campus is one of

2543
01:59:26,560 --> 01:59:28,400
Speaker 1: the best. It's one of those beautiful campuses in all

2544
01:59:28,440 --> 01:59:31,080
Speaker 1: of higher education. Charlesvill was a cool town, like it's

2545
01:59:31,080 --> 01:59:33,320
Speaker 1: a good, good place to party, but it's just a

2546
01:59:33,360 --> 01:59:37,680
Speaker 1: lot of like, you know, dudes with pop collars and polos.

2547
01:59:37,240 --> 01:59:42,360
Speaker 2: And would you rather live in Charlottesville or Blacksburg.

2548
01:59:41,480 --> 01:59:44,520
Speaker 1: Blacksburg where Virginia Tech is? Yeah, I'll take Charlottesville ten

2549
01:59:44,560 --> 01:59:46,000
Speaker 1: times out of ten over Blacksburg.

2550
01:59:46,200 --> 01:59:47,640
Speaker 2: Is that because of that thing on the side of

2551
01:59:47,640 --> 01:59:48,800
Speaker 2: Frank Beemer's face or No?

2552
01:59:49,520 --> 01:59:52,080
Speaker 1: I don't know how much that takes up time and traffic,

2553
01:59:52,160 --> 01:59:55,880
Speaker 1: But you need to hang or there. Uh, we went

2554
01:59:55,960 --> 01:59:59,120
Speaker 1: rampaging through the night, and you know, did.

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01:59:59,040 --> 02:00:01,080
Speaker 2: You have lifting gloves or is that a different kind

2556
02:00:01,080 --> 02:00:01,640
Speaker 2: of rampaging?

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02:00:01,760 --> 02:00:04,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Luke, hold hold on. And the next

2558
02:00:04,120 --> 02:00:07,040
Speaker 1: morning we woke up in one of our friend's houses

2559
02:00:08,680 --> 02:00:10,760
Speaker 1: and a buddy of mine had a stack of clothes

2560
02:00:11,360 --> 02:00:13,720
Speaker 1: that were covered in like those thin clear sheets that

2561
02:00:13,760 --> 02:00:16,920
Speaker 1: you would get from the dry cleaners. I was like, dude,

2562
02:00:16,920 --> 02:00:20,080
Speaker 1: where did you get these fucking clothes? And he was like, yeah,

2563
02:00:20,120 --> 02:00:22,520
Speaker 1: I just went through flipping car handles when you passed

2564
02:00:22,560 --> 02:00:24,800
Speaker 1: out up and down the block, and I've gotten to

2565
02:00:24,840 --> 02:00:27,040
Speaker 1: this one person's car and I stole all their dry

2566
02:00:27,080 --> 02:00:29,560
Speaker 1: cleaning and so he just had this motherfucker's dry cleaning.

2567
02:00:29,600 --> 02:00:31,760
Speaker 2: And so, you know, I don't support that kind of

2568
02:00:31,760 --> 02:00:34,840
Speaker 2: debauchery that you were into, like, you know, knocking dudes

2569
02:00:34,840 --> 02:00:37,560
Speaker 2: out wearing wife beaters, you know, as on a sidewalk

2570
02:00:37,560 --> 02:00:39,520
Speaker 2: in DC, and you know, like you were always.

2571
02:00:39,400 --> 02:00:41,880
Speaker 1: Playing the knockout game. Although I would there I've been

2572
02:00:41,920 --> 02:00:42,839
Speaker 1: times I've been tempted.

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02:00:43,560 --> 02:00:45,880
Speaker 2: Uh, Luke. Two more to close here. I've got a

2574
02:00:45,880 --> 02:00:48,280
Speaker 2: liver issue, which means I should not be eating hot

2575
02:00:48,320 --> 02:00:50,440
Speaker 2: dogs or hiding them. But my kids. Know, if you

2576
02:00:50,440 --> 02:00:52,080
Speaker 2: get into my car, there's a good chance to be

2577
02:00:52,120 --> 02:00:55,200
Speaker 2: cookies in the in the in the in the area

2578
02:00:55,240 --> 02:00:56,960
Speaker 2: in the middle. You know that the thing that lifts up,

2579
02:00:57,000 --> 02:00:58,320
Speaker 2: you know sometimes I snacks.

2580
02:00:58,800 --> 02:01:00,000
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.

2581
02:01:00,080 --> 02:01:02,080
Speaker 2: Check out this idea though, that this person had in

2582
02:01:02,120 --> 02:01:04,880
Speaker 2: the car. This is the next level. I should get

2583
02:01:04,880 --> 02:01:07,280
Speaker 2: into this little hidden security case.

2584
02:01:09,560 --> 02:01:11,120
Speaker 1: Why would you put a hot dog in there?

2585
02:01:11,440 --> 02:01:13,760
Speaker 2: Because I'm not supposed to have it, Luke, Okay, you

2586
02:01:13,800 --> 02:01:15,880
Speaker 2: know sometimes you just need it, right.

2587
02:01:15,920 --> 02:01:19,000
Speaker 1: Dude, some of these places to eat. It's the saddest

2588
02:01:19,000 --> 02:01:20,120
Speaker 1: shit I've ever seen.

2589
02:01:21,400 --> 02:01:22,880
Speaker 2: All I know is I need one of those head

2590
02:01:22,960 --> 02:01:25,320
Speaker 2: rests now, Okay, you can put Delto's in there.

2591
02:01:25,360 --> 02:01:27,760
Speaker 1: You can put you need the head rest. You just

2592
02:01:27,840 --> 02:01:31,000
Speaker 1: need the nitrates, true, true to that? All right?

2593
02:01:31,080 --> 02:01:33,960
Speaker 2: Finally, Luke, what's that saying?

2594
02:01:34,360 --> 02:01:39,600
Speaker 1: It's like run this ad one more time. It's like

2595
02:01:40,280 --> 02:01:43,280
Speaker 1: here we go. Ready. Are you a sad piece of

2596
02:01:43,280 --> 02:01:45,360
Speaker 1: shit that has to hide food throughout the course of

2597
02:01:45,400 --> 02:01:47,760
Speaker 1: your day because you're lonely and or trying to hide

2598
02:01:47,800 --> 02:01:50,400
Speaker 1: food from your significant other who's told you not to

2599
02:01:50,440 --> 02:01:52,760
Speaker 1: eat this. Are you a sad piece of shit who

2600
02:01:52,800 --> 02:01:55,360
Speaker 1: lonely eats in his car? Yeah? No, one else is

2601
02:01:55,440 --> 02:01:58,480
Speaker 1: around while you blast the AC and podcasts. Boy, do

2602
02:01:58,600 --> 02:02:01,400
Speaker 1: we have the gear for you?

2603
02:02:01,400 --> 02:02:03,200
Speaker 2: You know, I'd like to do work with Keith Lee.

2604
02:02:03,240 --> 02:02:06,360
Speaker 2: You know, Kevin Lee's brother from Vegas. He's killing dude,

2605
02:02:06,360 --> 02:02:09,000
Speaker 2: He's killing it. I'm really really like and he's got

2606
02:02:09,000 --> 02:02:11,440
Speaker 2: a great message. I'm really I'm really happy to see that.

2607
02:02:11,560 --> 02:02:13,360
Speaker 2: But I'd love to sit in the back seat with

2608
02:02:13,440 --> 02:02:14,880
Speaker 2: him and pull hot dogs out of the headrest and

2609
02:02:14,960 --> 02:02:17,280
Speaker 2: rate them. Luke, I'm into that stuff. Finally, Luke. They

2610
02:02:17,280 --> 02:02:19,440
Speaker 2: say you can f around and find out. You can

2611
02:02:19,480 --> 02:02:22,080
Speaker 2: also flip flip someone off and find out. Check out

2612
02:02:22,080 --> 02:02:22,680
Speaker 2: this American.

2613
02:02:26,880 --> 02:02:30,600
Speaker 1: Yeah buddy, Yeah, buddy.

2614
02:02:31,120 --> 02:02:33,560
Speaker 2: He looks like DJ Qualls in the movie The Bad

2615
02:02:33,600 --> 02:02:35,720
Speaker 2: Guy or the No The was that guy? What was

2616
02:02:35,720 --> 02:02:38,000
Speaker 2: that movie called? You know the you know what I'm

2617
02:02:38,000 --> 02:02:38,600
Speaker 2: talking about.

2618
02:02:38,480 --> 02:02:42,760
Speaker 1: Right, this guy, this guy looks like he murdered a

2619
02:02:42,800 --> 02:02:47,120
Speaker 1: new guy, fourteen year old kid, took all of his clothes,

2620
02:02:47,160 --> 02:02:49,120
Speaker 1: but he's secretly dying of cancer.

2621
02:02:50,400 --> 02:02:52,839
Speaker 2: Look, the movie was The New Guy with DJ Qualls.

2622
02:02:52,840 --> 02:02:54,920
Speaker 2: You may remember him in Road Trip with Tom Green,

2623
02:02:54,960 --> 02:02:55,879
Speaker 2: and then he got his own.

2624
02:02:55,720 --> 02:02:58,600
Speaker 1: Movie guy who was like the only role he ever

2625
02:02:58,640 --> 02:03:00,840
Speaker 1: could have played was outrage just nerd.

2626
02:03:00,840 --> 02:03:03,480
Speaker 2: Yes, that guy, that guy, I think that's him today,

2627
02:03:03,520 --> 02:03:06,400
Speaker 2: I think, unfortunately, but enjoyed that the new guy with

2628
02:03:06,440 --> 02:03:09,000
Speaker 2: Elijah Douchku. Remember that look that this was.

2629
02:03:09,080 --> 02:03:12,280
Speaker 1: This was basically representative of my first few trips to

2630
02:03:12,320 --> 02:03:14,800
Speaker 1: the UK, not the last one. Last one was great. Yeah,

2631
02:03:14,800 --> 02:03:16,920
Speaker 1: the first few though, is that was very representative of

2632
02:03:16,920 --> 02:03:19,400
Speaker 1: my experience with the Brits, just not not, you know,

2633
02:03:19,480 --> 02:03:20,160
Speaker 1: not the most fun.

2634
02:03:20,240 --> 02:03:23,280
Speaker 2: Would you say, would you say on equivocally that the

2635
02:03:23,360 --> 02:03:24,080
Speaker 2: UK gets me?

2636
02:03:26,160 --> 02:03:28,480
Speaker 1: No, they don't get you at all. I think they do,

2637
02:03:28,600 --> 02:03:31,000
Speaker 1: but it is they definitely tolerate you.

2638
02:03:31,960 --> 02:03:34,520
Speaker 2: I mean, and it was all races, creeds, Luke. I

2639
02:03:34,520 --> 02:03:36,520
Speaker 2: think people just like me in Britain, you.

2640
02:03:36,480 --> 02:03:38,120
Speaker 1: Know, No, they just tolerate you.

2641
02:03:38,720 --> 02:03:41,120
Speaker 2: All right, Well that's my ship for the week. That's

2642
02:03:41,120 --> 02:03:42,720
Speaker 2: all I got. I got to pee really bad, so

2643
02:03:42,960 --> 02:03:45,160
Speaker 2: just you know, land the plane, Sully, all right, Land

2644
02:03:45,200 --> 02:03:45,840
Speaker 2: it all right.

2645
02:03:46,120 --> 02:03:48,680
Speaker 1: Let's remind him. Oh the sale we have on London

2646
02:03:48,720 --> 02:03:51,160
Speaker 1: gear right morning, Combat Dot store. You can go.

2647
02:03:51,400 --> 02:03:54,600
Speaker 2: Everything must go, everything must go. Those GTA shirts, the

2648
02:03:54,640 --> 02:03:56,640
Speaker 2: Grand Theft, all the ones are badass. So are the

2649
02:03:56,960 --> 02:04:00,040
Speaker 2: Union Jack ones. Luke. Okay, get on there, get on there.

2650
02:04:00,000 --> 02:04:01,800
Speaker 1: Showtime dot com is the label that pays. You can

2651
02:04:01,800 --> 02:04:03,520
Speaker 1: go to showtime dot com get a thirty day free

2652
02:04:03,520 --> 02:04:05,040
Speaker 1: trophy like you can keep it. If not, you can

2653
02:04:05,120 --> 02:04:08,080
Speaker 1: bounce Morning Combat at gmail dot com. That's going to

2654
02:04:08,120 --> 02:04:09,760
Speaker 1: be the email to reach the show. That's a fun

2655
02:04:09,760 --> 02:04:13,320
Speaker 1: thing to do. One to remind folks BC Wednesday, you

2656
02:04:13,400 --> 02:04:16,600
Speaker 1: and I are going to be in studio in studio

2657
02:04:16,760 --> 02:04:19,640
Speaker 1: on Wednesday, and I've got an interview with the head

2658
02:04:19,640 --> 02:04:24,120
Speaker 1: of ADCC, Mojassum, who has an interesting thing to say

2659
02:04:24,200 --> 02:04:27,040
Speaker 1: now that they are going to be with UFC Fight

2660
02:04:27,120 --> 02:04:32,280
Speaker 1: Pass forty plus events coming your way with ADCC, so huge,

2661
02:04:32,360 --> 02:04:36,000
Speaker 1: huge implications for their future. We talked to him for

2662
02:04:36,080 --> 02:04:37,600
Speaker 1: Morning Combat, so that's going to be head of your

2663
02:04:37,600 --> 02:04:38,560
Speaker 1: way this week as well.

2664
02:04:38,680 --> 02:04:41,400
Speaker 2: Very interesting. I'm into that as well. Look, do you

2665
02:04:41,480 --> 02:04:43,360
Speaker 2: know one time I used to do a podcast with

2666
02:04:43,480 --> 02:04:46,440
Speaker 2: Raf Bartholomew called The State of Combat and he had

2667
02:04:46,440 --> 02:04:48,080
Speaker 2: to take a whizz so bad that he peed into

2668
02:04:48,080 --> 02:04:50,520
Speaker 2: a bottle on the air to not disrupt the show.

2669
02:04:50,560 --> 02:04:52,240
Speaker 2: If I did that, would you kick me out? Because

2670
02:04:52,280 --> 02:04:54,040
Speaker 2: I thought that was really gross of Rafe, Like, that's

2671
02:04:54,080 --> 02:04:56,600
Speaker 2: just gross. I mean, it's dedication, but it's gross, you know.

2672
02:04:56,680 --> 02:04:58,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't have to tolerate. I mean, you know,

2673
02:04:58,680 --> 02:05:01,560
Speaker 1: it's I'm glad he's airly house broken, but that's not

2674
02:05:01,600 --> 02:05:03,040
Speaker 1: the kind of thing we want to be focusing on.

2675
02:05:03,120 --> 02:05:04,680
Speaker 2: I mean, if I did a whole podcast from the

2676
02:05:04,720 --> 02:05:06,560
Speaker 2: Throne and you didn't know about it and you found

2677
02:05:06,560 --> 02:05:07,720
Speaker 2: out afterwards, you'd be okay with.

2678
02:05:07,680 --> 02:05:11,320
Speaker 1: Her if I didn't, if I couldn't tell yes.

2679
02:05:12,080 --> 02:05:13,960
Speaker 2: Like when you're on the road and your wife calls,

2680
02:05:14,000 --> 02:05:16,600
Speaker 2: do you ever take the phone call and not let

2681
02:05:16,600 --> 02:05:17,840
Speaker 2: her know that you're sitting down?

2682
02:05:18,440 --> 02:05:21,920
Speaker 1: No? I always tell her, okay. Also, my wife only

2683
02:05:21,960 --> 02:05:24,280
Speaker 1: ever facetimes, so I have to.

2684
02:05:24,760 --> 02:05:27,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, you are a big public facetimer. You know you are.

2685
02:05:28,200 --> 02:05:29,960
Speaker 1: Well. I try to keep it quick though, because I

2686
02:05:30,000 --> 02:05:32,320
Speaker 1: know it's annoying. That's the difference. I don't go, oh no,

2687
02:05:32,360 --> 02:05:33,320
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna have a conversation.

2688
02:05:33,360 --> 02:05:36,000
Speaker 2: Well, it's sweet, Luke, especially when Tukes gets on there

2689
02:05:36,040 --> 02:05:38,800
Speaker 2: and she's like poppy Poppy and you know she's the best,

2690
02:05:38,840 --> 02:05:39,480
Speaker 2: she's the best.

2691
02:05:40,080 --> 02:05:42,040
Speaker 1: Yep. I have to go watch her now because we don't.

2692
02:05:42,120 --> 02:05:44,080
Speaker 1: She doesn't have school and there's no daycare.

2693
02:05:44,200 --> 02:05:46,680
Speaker 2: So happy President's Day to Tukes.

2694
02:05:46,720 --> 02:05:49,720
Speaker 1: Sorry, Happy President's Day? All right? So be on the

2695
02:05:49,720 --> 02:05:52,560
Speaker 1: lookout for Wednesday's live show, interviews coming your way, and

2696
02:05:52,600 --> 02:05:55,440
Speaker 1: a whole lot more at YouTube dot com Slash Morning Combat.

2697
02:05:55,600 --> 02:05:59,080
Speaker 1: That's Brian Campbell. I'm Luke Thomas for Malka, Showtime, CBS

2698
02:05:59,080 --> 02:06:01,160
Speaker 1: Sports and everyone else. Lov Thank you so much for watching.

2699
02:06:01,240 --> 02:06:02,800
Speaker 1: We'll see you in a couple of days, and until then,

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Speaker 1: by all of your gains. Be loyal.