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There was some different talk down 19 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: there from from some of the Ravens people. First of all, 20 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: one to talk about the Ravens in this regard they 21 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: signed John Harbaugh to a three year contract extension. Yeah, 22 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: so he will now be there at their head coach 23 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: here for you know, moving forward. This is a guy 24 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 1: who not that long ago was about just a hair 25 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: away from being fired and the year Lamar's rookie year, 26 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: and now he is he's you know that everything's you know, 27 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 1: turned around on him. He's gonna be a twenty year 28 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 1: head coach and with the with the Baltimore Ravens at 29 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: this point. So, um, it just shows you how quickly 30 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: things can change and made me think if you were 31 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: putting together a team m hm, and you could have 32 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: any coach in the league right now, who would you 33 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: who would you bring in it. I saw some of 34 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: these new head coaches. I went to the to the 35 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: breakfasts that they had. They had they had breakfas us 36 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: to one morning with the a FC coaches. They had 37 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: breakfast the next day with the NFC coaches. And I'm 38 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: looking around the room at some of these guys who 39 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: are now at head coaches in the NFL, and I'm thinking, 40 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: that guy's inn NFL head coach and he looks like 41 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: he should be going to his physics class. Um, you 42 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: know that's part of it because we're getting old. But 43 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: you're right, you know. I mean, I like to quote 44 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:28,959 Speaker 1: the The Athletics podcast is Nate Nate Tys, whose father 45 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: was coach Tys with the Vikings, and Robert Mays were 46 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: on there, and they did an exercise like a month 47 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,679 Speaker 1: ago where they kind of picked the team like that. 48 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: And this might surprise people because they're kind of analytically 49 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: based dudes. They picked Belichick as their defensive coordinator, they 50 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: picked Shanahan as their offensive coordinator, and they picked Tomlin 51 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: as their head coach and basically said, maybe he's not 52 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,959 Speaker 1: great on game day and the analytics, but I want 53 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: him to lead my team all day long, you know. 54 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: And I think him and Harbor are very much in 55 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: the conversation for the answer your question. I mean, it's 56 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: not like they're old. It's not like they're or you know, 57 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin just turned fifty, right, turned fifty, you know, 58 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: so you can last a long time doing that that job. Yeah. Um, 59 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: you know, I saw Andy Reid, Um, I was it 60 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: was funny. We're talking to Art Rooney yesterday and wrapping 61 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: up the meeting and I'm shooting a video for d 62 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: K Pittsburgh sports and shooting guard and Andy Riegoes walking 63 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: through the back round, and he's got this big Hawaiian shirt. 64 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: And when I say a big Hawaiian shirt, I mean 65 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: you and I would fit under this Hawaiian shirt. And 66 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: we're both we're not small people, right right. But I'm like, 67 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: and he reads older than people think, Like Pete Carroll 68 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: is older than people think. These guys they're getting up there. Yeah, 69 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: they're getting up there. With all respect to coach Read. 70 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: What kind of shape is he in? You know what 71 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: I mean? Like Belichick is obviously older too. I mean, 72 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: I'm not giving any to Read a hard time. I 73 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: think he's a no brainer Hall of Famer, but you know, 74 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: he's had issues with his sons. I mean, I could 75 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: see him not being in it much longer. And I'm 76 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: not sure that's the reason the enemy hasn't been hired. 77 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 1: But I also think he can. He's getting their looming 78 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 1: saying maybe I can inherit his job. So Carol Belichick 79 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 1: and Read or the three that I would exclude because 80 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: of age. Yeah, and something. You know, when when Art 81 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: Rooney was they had the process with the d I Committee, 82 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,919 Speaker 1: and Arts the chair of of the d I Committee, 83 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: and one of the things that they passed was that 84 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: every team must now have a minority offensive assistant coach. 85 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 1: And the reason for that why it was an offensive 86 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 1: assistant coach was because so many of the head coaches 87 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: now are coming from the offensive side of the ball. 88 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: Do you see that? Do you see that changing at 89 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: some point with the league? Because a lot of times 90 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: you see you see trends, and then things kind of 91 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: get to get yanked back the other way. There was 92 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: a trend you don't run the football, you want to 93 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: throw throw through. And then we've seen a little bit more. 94 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 1: You know, you see the forty Niners have success running 95 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 1: the football, or the Ravens have success running the football, 96 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 1: and then teams trying to try to emulate that. Is 97 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: it is it becomes such an offensively oriented league that 98 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 1: all the coaches are now going to start coming from 99 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball. Maybe I'm being shortsighted, 100 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 1: but I don't see it changing soon. And how I 101 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: would back up that statement is, look at the contracts 102 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks are signing, and it's all about quarterbacks and 103 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: developing quarterbacks or being not one of those teams that 104 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: has to pay a quarterback if I can get a 105 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 1: lot of production out of a rookie because of my 106 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: coaching staff gives me a leg up, and that sounds 107 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: disrespectful to the defense and even special teams. And try 108 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: to me. I grew up in Pittsburgh seen three head coaches. 109 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 1: If I was hiring, the ability to develop a quarterback 110 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: or whether he goes for it a lot on fourth 111 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: downs would not be the top of my list in 112 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: terms of what I'm looking for. I mean, I just 113 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: want a leader of men and people that you know that, 114 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: a guy that everyone will follow, and a general So 115 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,119 Speaker 1: what side of the ball he comes from means less 116 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: to me, I think than the thirty two owners collectively. 117 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: But I also think those thirty two owners are the 118 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: ones writing forty and fifty million dollar checks now and 119 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: they want their guy to be specialized with the quarterback. Yeah. 120 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 1: I just looking at that, Um, it just struck me. 121 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 1: I remember seeing you know, for example, when when Zach 122 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: Taylor got hired in in in Cincinnati, that was my 123 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: first NFL owners meetings, and they had at that time, 124 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: they had all the a f C North coaches were all. 125 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: They had four tables lined up in the conference where 126 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: they had all the coaches were all lined up by 127 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: by division. Yeah. Yeah, so they had you know, eight 128 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: thirty two tables set up, and you know, they were 129 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: all all four in a row. And I remember looking 130 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: down there and seeing Zach Taylor and then I saw that, 131 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: you know, the next to him was the guy uh 132 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: that was with the Browns uh Um was Hugh at 133 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: that point, No, it wasn't. He was the guy who 134 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: replaced you the I forget who. He didn't last long 135 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: either ye Jim Bob, Jim Bob Cooter or whoever that was. 136 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: It wasn't Jim bub Cooter, but it was he looked 137 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: like Jeth Row from you know that he knew. I 138 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: knew it was just looking at him, like this guy's 139 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: not gonna last. And then you and then you had 140 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: Harborn and and Tomlins sitting next to each you know, 141 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: the tables next to each other. I'm like, these guys 142 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: look like, hey, coaches, they've been there and done it. Yeah. 143 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: I mean I've heard stories about, you know, the people 144 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: weren't even sure who Taylor was, you know, like he 145 00:07:58,120 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: wasn't like he was on TV a whole lot, Like 146 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: you gotta walk past you in the hall at that 147 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: owner meeting, or you could have shared an elevator with 148 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: him and you probably would have been like, oh, that's 149 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: a Bengel's head coach. Yeah, I mean I just I 150 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: kind of got that same feeling. Uh, you know, seeing 151 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: the Dolphins new head coach this year. That's why he've 152 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: I've heard it has not helped his you know, he's 153 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: considered a genius and a super smart guy, but it 154 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: has not helped his case. The way he looks, I mean, 155 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: he doesn't. It doesn't look like George Patton. He's not. 156 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: He's not a commanding presence. He walked he walked by me, 157 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: and I'm like, that's the Dolphins do it. He's like. 158 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: And I'm not I'm not discriminating against short people or 159 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: anything like that. But he's a little guy, you know, 160 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 1: and you're gonna command to command a room of very big, large, 161 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: testosterone filled men Like yeah, I mean those are just facts. 162 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:49,839 Speaker 1: I mean, looking the part I think is important. Um, 163 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: it's just one more obstacle that these coaches will have 164 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: to overcome, and a lot of them get past it. 165 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: But it is a good point, you know that back 166 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: you're a point of who am I hiring to leave 167 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: the theme Tom was on the shortlist, though, No, I 168 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: think he is too, and I think people in Pittsburgh 169 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: sometimes forget that. I thought he had some very interesting 170 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: statements this this weekend. Um. You know, when he was 171 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 1: asked point blank if he if he was confident that 172 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: the league was going to solve its problems with with 173 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: minority hirings, and he said, look, I have no confidence 174 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: that's going to happen. That's all right, you know. He 175 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: I think he's a he's comfortable in his own skin, 176 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: and b I think he's he's now reached the elder 177 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: statesman in his career where where you know, and he 178 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 1: also made man. He also knows that that Art Rooney 179 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 1: has his back, like, yeah, that's that's all part of 180 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: it too. He but he's able to speak his mind 181 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: in these situations, and so when he talks about the 182 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: Brian Flores hiring, he's like, look, this was this was 183 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: a no brainer for me. I don't care what what 184 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: the other thirty one teams would have done in this situation. 185 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 1: I saw Brian Flores as a guy who could come 186 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: in and help my football team. I don't care if 187 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: he sued in the league. Right. In fact, I support 188 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: him in suing the league because I think this needs 189 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: to change. Yeah, I think I agree with all that, 190 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: and I don't have a lot to expand on it. 191 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: It's kind of like the Brown's cut Joe Hayden. They 192 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 1: screwed up, I'll grab him, you know, I don't right 193 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: or frankly, I believe And we've never talked about this, 194 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: and I think this ship is long since sailed. But 195 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: if the Steelers thought Colin Kaepernick was a really good quarterback, 196 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: I think they would have signed him, you know what 197 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: I mean, Like, I don't think they're they're worried that 198 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: all of a sudden nation is not going to come 199 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: out or you know, I think they would if they 200 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: were comfortable with the person and they would assigned him, 201 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,839 Speaker 1: you know. There they want to win, They want to 202 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: get quality people. Yeah, they make the best football moves, 203 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: you know, and then they worry about the rest of 204 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: it later. And even you know, when we talked to 205 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:59,079 Speaker 1: Art Rooney yesterday, um, you know, he was asked about 206 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: the Flora's hiring, like, has any have you received any pushback? Right? 207 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: First of all, when Mike came to you, were you know, 208 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: did you were did you take any pause with this 209 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: whole thing, and he said, no, I I saw you know, Mike, 210 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: Mike said he was interested in you know that that 211 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: Brian was interested in joining us. Mike was interested in 212 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: bringing him in. He's a good football coach. He can 213 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: help us win great, bring him in, he said. You know, 214 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: we talked about the the the the lawsuits and stuff 215 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: that will take place outside of our building. That that 216 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: will take care of itself. Uh, you know, we just 217 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: don't want to be a distraction. Um. But he's a 218 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:36,839 Speaker 1: good football coach. We we saw, we get at him. 219 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: We added him clearly over qualified to be a position 220 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: coach guy, the head guy a year ago. And you know, right, 221 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: and that's why you make that's why you make them 222 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: senior defensive assistant. You kind of give him. They have 223 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: and they have an assistant head coach and John Mitchell. Um. 224 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: But it takes me back to that. So if you 225 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: look at the hierarchy even with the Steelers, and I 226 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: know I've talked about this before with Mike Tomlin. You 227 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: know when he was a college coach, when he started 228 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: out in coaching, Mike was a wide receiver in college. Yeah, 229 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: but he talked to people back in the day, who 230 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: who advised him that if he wanted to be an 231 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: NFL head coach, he should move over to the defensive 232 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: side of the ball. Okay, I think times have changed 233 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: because the guys who get who get jobs from the 234 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: offensive side of things are the quarterback coaches who then 235 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,959 Speaker 1: become offensive coordinators, who then become head coaches, or they 236 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 1: moved from quarterback coach to head coach. We've seen that 237 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 1: happen as well. So that's I mean, that's that's that's 238 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 1: why the league, you know, put this, you know, the 239 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: d I commit he said, Hey, we want every team 240 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 1: to have a minority offensive assistant who that has direct 241 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: access to the head coach, because it's just that's the 242 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: fast track to become a head coach now and in 243 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: today's NFL, I'm guessing here, I wonder how many of 244 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: the thirty two quarterback coaches currently or minorities, because quarterback 245 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: coaches have a better chance of becoming coach and coordinators 246 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: or then hey coach, and then hey coach, Yeah, then 247 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: a defensive back coach. And I wonder if coach Tomlin 248 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 1: at that time looked at it like, hey, there aren't 249 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: many people that look like me that are quarterback coaches 250 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: in this league right now. I mean I have a 251 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: better chance of becoming a defensive coordinator than an offensive coorter. 252 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: Hope that's not true, but I wouldn't be shocked. And 253 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 1: a lot quite frankly, a lot of the quarterback coaches 254 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: we're quarterbacks right at some point. You know, there's a 255 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: ripple effect years ago of course, so we you know, 256 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: we see more, you know, like a Byron left which uh, 257 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 1: you know, guys of that nature. But you also see 258 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: a lot of these guys who maybe got drafted, lie 259 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: and adventure and it's waiting. Hi. This is Merril Hodge 260 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: at S ANDT Bank. They know life's for the living. 261 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: That's why S and T Bank offer solutions to help 262 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: you get the most out of it, whether you're investing 263 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: in your home, planning for the future, are just making 264 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 1: the most of every day. St d Bank is here 265 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: to help learn how sand bank can help you live 266 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: the life you want at st bank dot com member 267 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: f D I C. S and D Bank was ranked 268 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: number one in customer satisfaction with retail banking and Pennsylvania 269 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: by j D Power for JD Power two Award. Information 270 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: Visit JD power dot Com Slash Awards, but didn't make 271 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: it as a quarterback. And then they become they get 272 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: into they get into coaching, and they become quarterback coaches 273 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: and then eventually move on and become offensive coordinators. Alex 274 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: Van Pelt comes to mind. Uh, you know, it was 275 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: it was just not a good offense, was not a 276 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: good quarterback at the NFL level. But you know, they 277 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: see the game differently. It's almost like it's almost like 278 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: a catcher becoming a manager in baseball. I would bet 279 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: that's a common because because they see the game differently 280 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: than than everybody else on the field. Yeah, they see 281 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: everything going on. They know how to set picture, you know, 282 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: So in that regard it makes perfect sense. And I think, 283 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: you know, I think you're gonna start to see more 284 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: Byron Left, which is become quarterback coaches and then offensive 285 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: coordinators and and take their steps. Um. The other interesting 286 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: part about it was that they now the league is 287 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: now viewing women coachings as the minorities as well. They're 288 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: twelve women coaches in the NFL right now. I think 289 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: that's a right call. I mean, they I've made jokes before, 290 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: and I'm not making a joke about the whole situation 291 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: of what qualifies as a minority by NFL standards. If 292 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: my great great great great great grandmother was African American 293 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: and my do I count? Do I get your third 294 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: round pick if I can hide? But certainly I think 295 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: a female should count as the minority, especially they have 296 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: an uphill climb in the NFL world is I mean, 297 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: there's unlike unlike the you know, the n b A 298 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: or even you know, there are professional women's softball leagues. 299 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: There was a professional women in his baseball league. They 300 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: made a movie about it. Uh you know they there 301 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: is the w n b A and even college. I 302 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: mean you could at least say I was a great 303 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: college player. Right, There's no there's no equivalent to the 304 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: NFL for women, and so they have to learn, you know, 305 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: they have to go through this at a different track. 306 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: I mean, let's I mean, there are guys out there 307 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: who have become head coaches, were very prominent coaches who 308 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: did not play football at any point. I mean, I 309 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: didn't play, and I have made a living doing this 310 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: for a living. Dydd Haley was a college golfer, you know, 311 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: right right right right? Um yeah, uh still if he 312 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: was a women's college golfer when he came into trying 313 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: to make that decision, he probably would not be employed 314 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Right, So it's an uphill climb, there's 315 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: no doubt about it. But we we are seeing changes 316 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: in that regard. The other thing that the I also 317 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: would have liked my chances if my dad was in 318 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: the NFL too, well, that helps. Yeah, that it might 319 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: have been an inroad. Uh. The other thing that was 320 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: talked about, um, was the contract given the Shaan Watson. 321 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: Um I met. That was brought up a lot behind 322 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: the scenes too. Yeah. Yeah. Steve bisci Audio I believe 323 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: made mention of it, um when he was talking about 324 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: the show. He was asking a lot this weekend about 325 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: what's going on with Lamar Jackson's contract, and I think 326 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: he said something along the lines of that the Browns 327 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: kind of reset the market a little bit. I was 328 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: gonna say, here's I forget the exact quote here he 329 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: said that. Um, he said, I don't know that he 330 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: should have been the first guy to get a fully 331 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: guaranteed contract. To me, that's something that's groundbreaking and it 332 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 1: will make negotiations harder with others now. He's not the 333 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 1: first to get a fully guaranteed contract. That was actually, 334 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: if you look at it, um some cousins, cousin, he 335 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: got a fully guaranteed contract from the Vikings. But he's 336 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 1: talking of Biscuito. He's talking about big money, like fully 337 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: guard of the two and thirty million dollar contract. He's 338 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: saying this because look, he's like, I'm sure when we 339 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: talked about that before, like when he when when that 340 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: deal was announced, Baltimore had to go, you gotta be 341 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: kidding me, because now we've got it. We've got a 342 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: guy in Lamar Jackson who's up for a new deal, 343 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 1: who also represents himself, which is whose skill set is 344 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:43,239 Speaker 1: very similar to the Shawn Watson's like same age we're 345 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: gonna pay, but who also has an m v P 346 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: of a word under his belt, like he's got a 347 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,120 Speaker 1: little bit better resume. Yeah, so you know that's that's 348 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: it kind of reset the market there, and and so 349 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 1: I think some teams are a little ticked off at 350 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: the at the Browns for that. Yeah. A couple of 351 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: things is I mean if Herbert or Borrow, when it's 352 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 1: my time immediately going to ask for fully guaranteed I mean, 353 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:08,679 Speaker 1: that's that's coming to the table with that. I mean, 354 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: that's another year down the road. And for people that 355 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 1: don't know, I didn't realize this a couple of days 356 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: after the contract was signed. Not only is Watson, I 357 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: don't even care what percentage of his contracts guaranteed, it's 358 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: how many dollars are guaranteed. It's the most in NFL history. 359 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 1: I think everyone knows that now that he is the 360 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: most guaranteed money coming to him from the day he 361 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: signed that until a lot by eighty million, eight million dollars. 362 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: That's what I was going with it. Eighty million more 363 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: guaranteed then I think Rogers is number two or whatever 364 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: like close. The players in the NFL will never get 365 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: will never get eighty million dollars, let alone be guaranteed 366 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: eighty million dollars, more than than anybody's ever number two, 367 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: the number two. Yeah, yeah, that are had about it 368 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: all that. Frankly, if Watton was the cleanest of prospects, 369 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 1: if he was Alan or Mahomes, that's still a contract 370 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 1: that I'm sure the other owners would say, hey man, 371 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,959 Speaker 1: what are you doing? Yeah, right, my homes deal, Like 372 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 1: if my homes had gotten a deal similar to that, MHM. 373 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 1: His was a ten year deal. If they if if 374 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 1: they guaranteed two hundred and thirty million of his was 375 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 1: four fifty million dollars. It's like it was, it was 376 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 1: four or fifty million dollars over ten years. If he 377 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: had if he would have gotten two thirty million dollars 378 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: guaranteed over the length of a ten year contract. You go, okay, 379 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: I get that. I guess this was a fully guaranteed 380 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 1: four year deal for a guy who's going to be suspended. 381 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: And that was something I think Goodell was pretty clear 382 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: about yesterday when he had his his his his wrap 383 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: up of the meetings that like, you know, okay, we 384 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: we wanted, yeah, we wanted to wait until the criminal 385 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: off was cleared up. But now it's it's on, like 386 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: something's gonna happen. Yeah. I think that's a hundred per 387 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 1: cent true. Um. The other little small issue, too, is 388 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 1: if you're gonna give it to my homes I've worked 389 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 1: with him for the last three years. If I'm going 390 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,360 Speaker 1: to give it to Borrow or Herbert. I drafted him. 391 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: He came in. He was everything I thought he would 392 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:30,199 Speaker 1: be and more. We are building this think together and 393 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: Watson may change the whole Brown's outlook from now, and 394 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: you know it might be before watching, after watching, there 395 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: might be a line in Brown's history, But you've never 396 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: even worked with the guy. You know, you even sat 397 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: there day after day, year after year, seventeen game season 398 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: working together, you know. But also I would also say this, 399 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: there they're scouting department and everything up there, the coaching staff, 400 00:21:56,400 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: all that stuff was not there when, which just Shawn 401 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: Watson was coming out of college. So who's who's scouting reports? 402 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: Are they going off of on Shawn Watson? Like? Oh, 403 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 1: we really you know, they got people from you know, 404 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 1: different organizations that you know, well we really liked him, 405 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: well we we weren't a sould on them. Well we think, 406 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 1: you know, I don't. I don't know, Like there's pro 407 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: reports since then, too, But I mean the reports I 408 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,400 Speaker 1: wrote wrote for the Browns are still in their system. 409 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 1: But who the heck goes trust? Who's this guy's who's 410 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 1: Matt Williamson? You know That's what I mean, Like, I 411 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 1: mean the four years ago, Yeah, all the people here, 412 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: why do we care what they had to think? You know, 413 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 1: maybe we'll reference maybe, you know, but yeah, they're not 414 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: here anymore, like right, so, and the pro guys are new, 415 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: you know, I just think it's very curious, and and 416 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: other that Bisciotti was the only one I thought I 417 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: saw that went on the record talking about that. I'm 418 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 1: sure maybe somebody else did, but well, he's next. He 419 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: is next. Yeah. And the other thing that's interesting you mentioned, 420 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: Kirks is is if I'm no one likes this because 421 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 1: they'd rather get the big deal and the big upfront 422 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 1: money and all that. But if you're a franchise as 423 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: a quarterback, it's a pretty good deal, you know. I mean, 424 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: like Cousins thirty million next year, you got thirty three million. 425 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 1: That's guaranteed too. And even if you get hurt, like 426 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:23,439 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott got franchised, had as gruesome as an injury 427 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: as we could ever see, and then they just gave 428 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: him a big contract, you know, like something really off 429 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: for us to happen, for you not to be just 430 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 1: it's still valuable after one year of getting franchised. Yeah, 431 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: it's it's a quarterback position. And I've I've long been 432 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: a proponent of this, and I don't know how you 433 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 1: go about doing it. They should have their own cap. 434 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 1: I kind of think so too, But I don't know 435 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: how you do it right because the team quarter quarterbacks 436 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: quarterback A is not worth what quarter you know, like 437 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 1: they all have their own value, whether you just don't 438 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 1: count you don't count your quarterback in your salary cap 439 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: at all, or the league like it's like an arbitration situation, 440 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: you know, next if you get to these parameters or 441 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: we w worthy, you move up from a tier three 442 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: guy to a tier two guy and then you get 443 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: a raise or I don't know, but it is so skewed. 444 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: You know, that's one player, one position dominates your cap 445 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 1: so much. And it certainly wasn't the right answer for 446 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: Sam Bradford or JaMarcus Russell to get picked first overall 447 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: and you're like the fifth highest fake quarterback in the 448 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 1: league before you ever threw a pass. But it's certainly 449 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 1: a massive advantage to have, you know, Joe Burrow right 450 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: now or Herbert right now. Yeah, it's it's it's almost 451 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: like I don't I don't know how you go get 452 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: around it because it's just and they're all in the 453 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 1: same union as the long snapper. Uh, you know, those 454 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 1: guys don't make any money, you know, that's it's it's 455 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: just it's just a different dynamic. There's be something different 456 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: and I don't know what it is, and I don't 457 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: even know what the Larry Bird rule is, but I 458 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: knew there was something along the line in the NBA 459 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: where their version of a franchise tag you could pay 460 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 1: a guy a hundred and twenty but it only costs 461 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 1: a hundred percent against your cap or something like that 462 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: if you keep your own. Yeah, that's where people far 463 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: smarter than us to figure out. But I do believe 464 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: something something has to change on that. But we're gonna 465 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 1: take another break. He is Williams and I am Dale Lelly. 466 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. 467 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: When we come back, Bucky Brooks has a mock draft 468 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: out there. Did you see BUCkies? I have not. Well, 469 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: we'll talk about it when we kind of like it. Yeah, 470 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: right after this on the Drive, Life and Adventure and 471 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: it's waiting. Hi. This is Merril Hodge at S ANDT Bank. 472 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: They know lives for the living. 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