Speaker 1: I'm buzzing in the street. Everybody talking about druma boards.
Speaker 1: Then an Ovation drop, then we dropped White Girl, then
Speaker 1: applies reach Out, Man, I do shouty, come on Damn Rocko,
Speaker 1: reach Out I do. I'm gonna do me. Then with
Speaker 1: Drake call out the Blue. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: First song, we do money to Blow, Rick Ross Car
Speaker 1: we do here, I am two chains, I'm run around.
Speaker 1: I'm getting it left August. I've seen a hit man.
Speaker 1: We do No Love feature Nigga Mina Walker. He got
Speaker 1: hard to paint. I give him no hand. It's a
Speaker 1: photo shoot. First record me and Gucci did, followed by
Speaker 1: I Think I Love It. I was like, man, I'm
Speaker 1: drummer board. You know what I'm saying. I'm making beasts.
Speaker 1: I got this song out, I got this song out.
Speaker 1: I'm on the radio. Wo that nigga looked me in
Speaker 1: my eard like, man, you ain't gonna beat shit doing
Speaker 1: this shit. M M. You know what I'm saying. Ers
Speaker 1: just coming down my eyes. Nigga like, man, you gotta
Speaker 1: me fucked up. Nigga drum Wo, I pull out tenth
Speaker 1: down Cab.
Speaker 2: Y'all have a lot of talent, but I feel like
Speaker 2: Memphis is just so divided.
Speaker 1: At the same time, it's a lot of w's. God
Speaker 1: is showing an incredible example of unification and Dolf was
Speaker 1: doing it too.
Speaker 3: Do you think that they would have eventually settled their differences.
Speaker 1: Once a nigga lose respect for you, m you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, it ain't no turning back. This song
Speaker 1: was just kind of like, there's no way too personal.
Speaker 1: So I think once they go personal, it is, it
Speaker 1: ain't no turning back. Word with me here, you know,
Speaker 1: b T.
Speaker 3: It's just so low shout out oct no call what
Speaker 3: we see whole game?
Speaker 1: Wait the bat back something.
Speaker 3: Oh you can't stand on their own, scie. I already
Speaker 3: know you can't bother with me because with the squad
Speaker 3: of me they get at they called me.
Speaker 1: Helo.
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Speaker 1: I go by the name you know BT.
Speaker 3: With that man, a living legend is in the building.
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Speaker 3: Sir Drake declares Sexy Red is his rightfully wife kisses
Speaker 3: her in a new picture. Did you guys see that
Speaker 3: trending everywhere?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I see there was number one trending on Twitter. He said,
Speaker 2: if uh, it's gonna get smokey?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 2: First of all, what did Drake be getting all this
Speaker 2: slang from? Is this like Canada slang? He said, if
Speaker 2: my wife he catch you backstage, is gonna get smoky cat.
Speaker 5: If she catch y'all thirsty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thursty is gonna get smokey.
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, what the hell does Drake come up
Speaker 2: with all this terminology?
Speaker 1: That should be serious? Though? Would he say, be serious?
Speaker 1: But he'd be funny and the same. Yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: sin and human. I think he got a classy sense.
Speaker 3: This is good for Sexy Red though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sexy Red is on the run.
Speaker 2: By the way, Sexy Red is probably the hottest rapper
Speaker 2: out right now. I don't I don't think anybody would disagree.
Speaker 2: I heard four her songs in the club for last night.
Speaker 3: He say, damn with the hose, Uh looking for the
Speaker 3: hose of the poundtown.
Speaker 1: It's one more the baby.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm talking about hers like yeah, Poundtown. That's
Speaker 3: Poundtown too. But yeah, you gots I said, wait, wait.
Speaker 1: Wait, wait, she has four songs.
Speaker 3: That's all hard club and then I'm looking for.
Speaker 5: The Somebody says, she's like there, Michael Jackson.
Speaker 3: All right. And then she said, I like that song.
Speaker 3: I like that song though.
Speaker 1: Stop saying that because you don't know what she's saying.
Speaker 1: I think she gets her shows like even tightened up
Speaker 1: even more. She gonna be, she gonna be. You gotta
Speaker 1: have that performance together, you know what I mean, a
Speaker 1: lot of artists, they skipped the artist development side. So
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, artists, Man, get your artist
Speaker 1: development on. You know what I'm saying. Get you some
Speaker 1: background dances and you dance. Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Just put some of the money you make it into
Speaker 1: your production, what I'm saying, on your show production, so
Speaker 1: you can have some fireworks going off with some ship. Yeah.
Speaker 3: When you're talking about her, when she's talking about her,
Speaker 3: boody hole is brown? Okay? Uh nas is dropping a
Speaker 3: new album Friday? Are we here for that?
Speaker 1: Always nos in there?
Speaker 3: I ain't say nothing, b T. You're not ready for it.
Speaker 5: He just got done talking about Poundtown.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is this is like a big switch man.
Speaker 2: Like we're talking about like NAS.
Speaker 3: Album, I don't know the name of it.
Speaker 1: Hit Boy Brought My Dog Back though, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, smooth, you know what I'm saying, Like gangster,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, giving us some kind of education,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and trying to put us
Speaker 1: up on the jewels, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: So I respect No, Yeah, salute the NAS man. He
Speaker 2: one of those rappers that's still coming out with albums
Speaker 2: when he don't have to, because Na's got a lot
Speaker 2: of money.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: I think he loves the sport of.
Speaker 1: Rap and he and he got a Grammy doing it,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: It well deserved too, because he he has his first
Speaker 6: album was Grimmy worthy for me.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Okay.
Speaker 3: Shout out to Nas Little Dirt Council's upcoming festival performances
Speaker 3: and post post poems toward dates as he recovers from
Speaker 3: his recent health issues dehydration and exhaustion. Almost prayers the
Speaker 3: Little Dirt. I hope he kind of, you know, seize
Speaker 3: that through because we need Jack here. Were just talking
Speaker 3: about how hot it was in Vegas and how hot
Speaker 3: it is being this summer.
Speaker 1: Man, you need to old you.
Speaker 3: Know you're working, man like, when you work and you
Speaker 3: forget to eat, you forget to sleep, it'd be a
Speaker 3: whole bunch of shit going on. That ship will lead
Speaker 3: up to you multiple times as you do it, and.
Speaker 6: Most importantly, drink water your body needs at least.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sometimes you forget to do all that.
Speaker 2: I just burn my tongue on my almost sub sandwich
Speaker 2: because I forgot to eat today.
Speaker 5: Your body in Vegas right at.
Speaker 3: Four pm, you forgot to eat.
Speaker 1: Listen.
Speaker 2: I drink a lot of water, so you know, that's
Speaker 2: what helped me when I was in Vegas. Because you know, Delta,
Speaker 2: they got to come off some coins.
Speaker 5: Everybody get free flights.
Speaker 3: Everybody's complaining. People passed out in the plane because of
Speaker 3: how hot the plane was because they Vegas. Yeah, Vea
Speaker 3: leaving Vegas to go wherever they're going.
Speaker 1: And people on the plane with the only ones playing
Speaker 1: the Spirit.
Speaker 2: It was the Delta, Man, I seen Spirit and everybody
Speaker 2: taking off. We were stuck on the plane because they
Speaker 2: couldn't get the engine to start because they're overheated because
Speaker 2: of how hot it was, and I'm in the plane
Speaker 2: and you know, the AC goes out and we're just
Speaker 2: sitting on the plane and I'm watching Spirit.
Speaker 1: Take off, watching the Americans take off. I'm like, this
Speaker 1: is supposed to be Delta.
Speaker 4: Damn.
Speaker 6: It was so hot too, Like people passed out and
Speaker 6: swelled themselves as well.
Speaker 1: You were hot.
Speaker 3: I know it was hot over there because it was
Speaker 3: hot in Atlanta. It was ninety four degrees in Atlanta.
Speaker 3: I ain't never felt no like that one sixteen Delta. Man,
Speaker 3: come on, I fucked with Delta.
Speaker 1: They need new planes, thank you.
Speaker 3: And we all get the planes that have like you know,
Speaker 3: the new ship, like you know what you.
Speaker 1: Get on those like once every blue moon. You're like, hey,
Speaker 1: what is this?
Speaker 3: I was on the Delta plane and they had all
Speaker 3: the bad shit. It was like all it was old
Speaker 3: as hell.
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, they making so much money. Man,
Speaker 2: Like even I had to fly. They had to wrap
Speaker 2: me through American Airlines. And I got on that American Airlines.
Speaker 1: I said, Maha, I'm I on a three hour flight
Speaker 1: with no TV.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean a lot of what is it? Southwest?
Speaker 5: Only think they got TVs?
Speaker 3: Okay, uh fabulous. Recently set on social media. No disrespect
Speaker 3: to any female rappers out, but I think there's only
Speaker 3: one style of female rap hip hop being promoted, programmed
Speaker 3: and looked at as successful.
Speaker 1: Now thoughts, you can agree the female rappers on top
Speaker 1: they rap about what they've been through, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and they taking a negative lifestyle or you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, their previous past life and turning
Speaker 1: it into success in a bank roll and able to
Speaker 1: provide more for their families, so you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: I think it was once like that, like a you know,
Speaker 6: like the Cardi B type era when Jermaine dupri was
Speaker 6: saying mount stripper culture and stud of being promoted. But
Speaker 6: now I feel like we have more of a variety
Speaker 6: because I don't feel like Lolabrook is talking about the
Speaker 6: same thing as sexy Red or in sexy Red doesn't
Speaker 6: sound like an ice spice, you know. I feel like
Speaker 6: it's a I think you gotta we're coming into a
Speaker 6: wider variety of female rappers.
Speaker 1: I agree with that.
Speaker 2: I don't really know what a fab statement is coming
Speaker 2: from because just like Ox said, I'm seeing a variety
Speaker 2: of different type of you know rap that you can
Speaker 2: listen to because Ice Spice, you know, her music is
Speaker 2: a whole lot different from Actually I like Ice Spice too,
Speaker 2: but I really like Sexy Red Man. I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's just something about her music in the club. It's
Speaker 2: just even if you are man and make you want
Speaker 2: to turn up. You know, I don't be works. I
Speaker 2: don't know what she be saying half the time. I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. People will tell you to be true to
Speaker 1: yourself or a man, make music this you and da
Speaker 1: da da, and then people go do that, blow up,
Speaker 1: have success, and then now it's ruining the community. But
Speaker 1: she just being who she is.
Speaker 3: Did you see she went viral? Sexy Reil went viral.
Speaker 3: She went to some schools and pay for haircuts and
Speaker 3: got bundles for the kids, the girls, and they were
Speaker 3: going crazy because they was like, why is she going?
Speaker 3: She has a song called going to Perform. I thought
Speaker 3: she was going to perform. That was weird.
Speaker 2: I knew she wasn't gonna perform because I was like, bro,
Speaker 2: there's no way on God's green earth she by the
Speaker 2: going there and sing towntown.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, like choo.
Speaker 2: I knew that she was giving away something. I thought
Speaker 2: she was probably going to be going there.
Speaker 3: Too, bro.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 5: It was a great deed that she did.
Speaker 6: And a lot of people saw a problem with that,
Speaker 6: Like you said, they thought she was going to perform
Speaker 6: and she did not. She just you know, and she said,
Speaker 6: you know how hard it was for her during prom season,
Speaker 6: So she wanted to give back to, you know, the
Speaker 6: young ladies who want to look good on a prom
Speaker 6: night because a lot of people do hair cuts, but
Speaker 6: a lot of people don't buy bundles.
Speaker 1: They do real shit. Man, get back to the community,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and be clever with your
Speaker 1: way of doing that. And I think she did that.
Speaker 1: She got everybody talking on the negative level and then
Speaker 1: y'all up again.
Speaker 2: Ademic yeah, you know, I like what she's doing. Another
Speaker 2: thing too, I know, I know it's not on the
Speaker 2: sheet in case you missed it, but you know a
Speaker 2: lot of people are talking about Little Baby Tours being canceled,
Speaker 2: like the show's being canceled.
Speaker 1: What do y'all feel about that?
Speaker 2: About what they said because of the ticket sales that
Speaker 2: his shows are being canceled. And you know, I'm always
Speaker 2: on Twitter looking at what you know, what's the talk
Speaker 2: of the town is per se, But I seen like
Speaker 2: academic says something about He was like, Yo, you know, uh,
Speaker 2: these fans aren't real fans anymore. He was like, these
Speaker 2: fans are like overnight fans that like rappers are you know,
Speaker 2: gaining Like how you feel about that drama boy, you
Speaker 2: feel like, you know, the core fan bases like kind
Speaker 2: of going away into like where people are just hopping
Speaker 2: on trends about like who's popular right now.
Speaker 1: I think it's always been like that, To be honest
Speaker 1: with you, it was just more money made in the
Speaker 1: previous you know, in the nineties and the early two thousands.
Speaker 1: Now just you know the way streams are going and
Speaker 1: TikTok and different trends. You gotta really come with substance.
Speaker 1: You gotta come with something that people gonna respect you
Speaker 1: for outside of just the music, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And I think if you you become a triple threat,
Speaker 1: that's what makes you. You know what I mean, Like, Okay,
Speaker 1: he can do movies, Okay, he cool, Okay, he got
Speaker 1: an actual personality. He funny and real person You know
Speaker 1: what I mean? You might go doing movies. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean, and just being creative like a fifty
Speaker 1: cent or a ludicrous you know what I mean, And
Speaker 1: elevating your career because you use this as a platform
Speaker 1: to get other things. Michael Jordan took price cut right,
Speaker 1: he wanted the highest paid NBA player, this and that,
Speaker 1: But if you look at how much money he was
Speaker 1: making off the court, look at the way he was
Speaker 1: branding himself. So now he's set up. He's still making
Speaker 1: four hundred million a year, Like you gotta set yourself
Speaker 1: self up like a Jay Z or Nas, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. And I'm just following the blueprints. I think.
Speaker 6: Also, you know, back in previous generations like Gen X
Speaker 6: and you know, early Millennials, they kind of view concerts
Speaker 6: in a different way like they would go Gen X
Speaker 6: will go see a new addition. They would go by
Speaker 6: records and Michael Jackson and things of that nature. And
Speaker 6: I feel like now with this, you know later Millennials
Speaker 6: and Gen xers and the younger generation, they want to
Speaker 6: be the stars. You know what I'm saying. They got
Speaker 6: they own fan base. So it's not like they trying
Speaker 6: to see you. They trying to get they stuff up
Speaker 6: to see, you know, to collab with you or try
Speaker 6: to get on the same stage as you.
Speaker 5: And I feel like that's a factor.
Speaker 2: As well, Like you feel like most people feel like
Speaker 2: they can do what like a lot of rappers are
Speaker 2: doing nowadays that are successful, because I just don't like
Speaker 2: the simple fact of It's like these fans are trying
Speaker 2: to like turn on these artists so fast because it's
Speaker 2: like I'm a fan of Little Baby, and then when
Speaker 2: I see stuff like that on the internet, like it
Speaker 2: makes me agree with you, Like I feel like everybody's
Speaker 2: looking at these artists and be like, hey, I can
Speaker 2: do that, you know what I mean, Like why these
Speaker 2: person has all these fans when I feel like I can.
Speaker 1: Do that too.
Speaker 6: And it's they feel like that because of the Internet,
Speaker 6: they can get a hundred K on their TikTok and
Speaker 6: feel like they'll start, you know, go viral off one
Speaker 6: video and feel like, oh, I could do this, you know,
Speaker 6: when it really takes, like you said, artist development and
Speaker 6: and you know, really cultivating your art to you know,
Speaker 6: have longevity to become a jay Z. But you know
Speaker 6: people are lazy too, But I feel like they just
Speaker 6: get that one little spark of fame, you know, or
Speaker 6: attention that they're looking for on TikTok or Instagram or
Speaker 6: whatever and try to run with it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you know when you gain a certain
Speaker 1: following behind a certain cause, like Okay, you killed somebody,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, So now you blow up
Speaker 1: all night everybody listening to your music, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. You got to keep that up, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Or you love hip hop, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. A guess or whatever. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, And you might've beat somebody ass and went viral,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like Okay, he don't play, man,
Speaker 1: they wasn't play. You gotta keep that up, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So whatever it is that you're doing,
Speaker 1: you gotta be consistent with it. If I if I'm
Speaker 1: known for having that shit in the street, I gotta
Speaker 1: keep that up, you know what I'm saying. Or as
Speaker 1: you come to me and I ain't got it, you
Speaker 1: finna go to somebody else, you know what I'm saying. Damn,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, My folks. In time, I
Speaker 1: gotta get something from somebody, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So the party always gonna go on. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean, and you have to keep up. You know,
Speaker 1: you might inherit somebody else. You're dating somebody, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and that now you inheriting the fans.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So it's cool when y'all together.
Speaker 1: But the minute you break up, the minute you do
Speaker 1: something to her, she do something to you. Dah dah dah.
Speaker 1: Now y'all fans against each other, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So you gotta be careful how you align yourself, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, and be consistent at what you do.
Speaker 1: Whatever it is you do that you can take a break.
Speaker 1: For me, it was making good music, so I gotta
Speaker 1: keep that up.
Speaker 3: I think Little Baby's tour dates are happening like that
Speaker 3: is because I think a lot of the artists that
Speaker 3: are on his tour with him are new You were
Speaker 3: artists with not bigger fan bases. So if I feel
Speaker 3: like when he was with Dirk or him and Drake,
Speaker 3: like people want to go to a one music fest
Speaker 3: because it's seventeen, Drake's seventeen, So festivals are spoiling the
Speaker 3: festival things, spoiling the tour with Little Baby, and then
Speaker 3: he's looking out for his folks like Jo's on there.
Speaker 3: It's artists that are new that don't have big fan bases.
Speaker 2: That's how tours used to be though, That's how you
Speaker 2: used to find out new artists.
Speaker 3: Correct, But I don't remember festivals being like how they are.
Speaker 3: These are. It's multiple big festivals. So I'm just you know,
Speaker 3: I'm just kind of looking at it a little different,
Speaker 3: like yo, like what is he? Because Dirk has his
Speaker 3: own tour, Baby has his own tour, Drake has his
Speaker 3: own tour, when in reality, I just thought maybe them
Speaker 3: three should have been on the tour. It should have
Speaker 3: been Drake, Dirk and little Baby. Now them is gonna
Speaker 3: sell out all the arenas, in my professional opinion, first
Speaker 3: most of them having to choose because Drake's store is
Speaker 3: gonna be a lot more expensive. He's in New York
Speaker 3: on three dates, and people will have to be like, ah,
Speaker 3: you got a four hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: Ticket and we're coming out for Pandemics.
Speaker 3: Still, people we got Beyonce, we got all these big people,
Speaker 3: Taylor Swift, we got people that really raped. And then
Speaker 3: you know, especially if you see them on Instagram and
Speaker 3: all this, you might not want to be intrigued to
Speaker 3: go see it. But if it's a bill with Drake
Speaker 3: Dirk and little Baby, I'm gonna be go over be like,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, I'm going to that. But so to the
Speaker 3: legacy artists who can do this on their own, absolutely,
Speaker 3: because that's difficult.
Speaker 1: And you don't know what what you know, like health
Speaker 1: wise or you know what I mean, like just just
Speaker 1: just mental therapy. We want all these artists healthy, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. We don't know what they're going
Speaker 1: through or what came up or you know your son
Speaker 1: that had an emergency or one of your kids and
Speaker 1: head of an emergency case that happens. Ain't spend like
Speaker 1: I can't miss these moments life be lifing. Broke his
Speaker 1: arm and you gotta have surgery whatever. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying.
Speaker 3: It was in a car accident, any thing, and you
Speaker 3: may not can say that publicly. There may be a
Speaker 3: man I got some exhaustion issues. It could be as
Speaker 3: simple as damn, I got some family things. I gotta
Speaker 3: take care of that man I need to go public.
Speaker 3: It could be some ship like that.
Speaker 6: But shout out to a little baby. He just opened
Speaker 6: the seafood restaurant.
Speaker 3: I gotta go check that out. You know, you know Atlanta,
Speaker 3: we love our seafood. We're going partas in the hood.
Speaker 1: So you know it's good.
Speaker 6: And I heard it's not as expensive as like the Boilers.
Speaker 6: It's reasonable priced.
Speaker 3: So yeah, a fuck with little baby and everything he
Speaker 3: got going on.
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Speaker 5: Where did those tags come from?
Speaker 1: The man tags just you know, creatively, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, You gotta come up with it. A yeah, boy,
Speaker 1: came from me rapping. I was rapping up. I was
Speaker 1: doing a feature for Gags the Boo. She was like, man,
Speaker 1: I need you on the track. Man, need a twelve
Speaker 1: right here food And I put a twelve on that
Speaker 1: GM and I'm saying a year boy behind my verse
Speaker 1: and she was just like mine, man, you need to
Speaker 1: make that jo tag.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we had a really close relationship.
Speaker 1: How did that affect you? Man? It was, it was,
Speaker 1: it was. It's still a blow, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's still like avoid missing because I already lost my brother.
Speaker 1: I r peat insame way and she was like both
Speaker 1: of them together, just crazy funny, just calling me, just
Speaker 1: on me, like, man, you might keep doing this food
Speaker 1: man man, fuck do you folks? Fool man talk yo
Speaker 1: ship food pop yr sh sh nigga jump out you
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. She just want a nigga
Speaker 1: to wake up, Like come on, bro, you you you
Speaker 1: you know what motivated nigga fool take this ship fool
Speaker 1: like you know what I mean. She was that that cheerleader.
Speaker 1: But they're motivated that inspiration at the same time. So
Speaker 1: so it's safe to say you were three sins Mafia fan.
Speaker 1: Oh fucking right. Because you're from Memphis, Memphis.
Speaker 3: Part of Memphis, South Memphis. Can we talk about the sides,
Speaker 3: like what's like, what's the nice part of Memphis? This
Speaker 3: is the north side.
Speaker 1: Nice part of Memphis used to be. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: it still is, I guess in certain areas Kyeville, part
Speaker 1: of German Town, this is suburbs part of South. So
Speaker 1: Germantown is like like south, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: It's on the bottom, closer to Mississippi, but it's further east,
Speaker 1: like out of the city a little bit, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like kind of more northeast, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So Kyeville will be northeast, and then
Speaker 1: even german Town would be a little bit kind of
Speaker 1: like it's really nice over north.
Speaker 3: A lot of people I've seen this from South Memphis,
Speaker 3: and I've heard some people say they're from East Memphis.
Speaker 1: Yeah, West West Memphis is Arkansas, So you're from Memphis.
Speaker 1: You ain't really claiming that because that's really Arkansas. That's
Speaker 1: what the BT is from, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like you that's Arkansas. But people be like, I'm from Memphis,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because they come to Memphis
Speaker 1: every day.
Speaker 3: Community there at the state line.
Speaker 2: You know, you don't say you from Arkansas, you're from
Speaker 2: West West West Memphis could just be like I'm from
Speaker 2: West Memphis.
Speaker 1: Was like Little Rocky from Little rock You're from Favvie
Speaker 1: from Fae, from anywhere else you from there? But West Memphis.
Speaker 1: The only people that can really take you want to
Speaker 1: be a rapper. First I was. I was rapping in
Speaker 1: making beats. I was a high school cafeteria king, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I was always beating on tables
Speaker 1: and you know, free styling, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: or cats was freestyling on my beats and whatever. So
Speaker 1: it just kind of became a thing. The ornament on
Speaker 1: the Christmas tree was the little drummer Boy. Then my
Speaker 1: Grandmama gave me, so it was just like damn, and
Speaker 1: I kind of just put to into.
Speaker 3: The know how to play the drums.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, a little bit. What instruments do you play? Clarinet, piano, guitar, bass,
Speaker 1: little drums? You know what I'm saying. But I'm more
Speaker 1: of a programmer, and I arranged and composed. I respected
Speaker 1: the conductor. My dad was in the orchestra, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And my mom was in the opera,
Speaker 1: plus the church choir, and so it was around you.
Speaker 3: You had no choice.
Speaker 1: And that's the orchestra was my babysitter, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Oh yeah, so BOYT three or four, I
Speaker 1: could tell the difference between violas and violins and cellos
Speaker 1: and trombones and you know what I'm saying, French horns
Speaker 1: and like this's what's good to learn early. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Between the church. I think
Speaker 1: the church was like the biggest glue for me, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, because it was it was a
Speaker 1: little bit cooler, you know what I'm saying. Like my
Speaker 1: dad was really trying to force the orchestra on me,
Speaker 1: and I just got good at it just because of
Speaker 1: how much anything that you put in eighteen hours a day,
Speaker 1: fifteen hours a day, ten hours a day, you gonna
Speaker 1: master it, you know what I'm saying. And you didn't
Speaker 1: done this five, ten, fifteen years. So by the time
Speaker 1: I kind of, you know, my brother introduced me to
Speaker 1: the beat making process. He took me to my first studio,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and like that was like
Speaker 1: the feeling of being in the spaceship, like Okay, I
Speaker 1: can control this on my own pilot. I can older
Speaker 1: you at this time, when you're probably twelve thirteen, first
Speaker 1: studio for.
Speaker 3: A young age, you already knew, did you know at
Speaker 3: that time you were going to be a producer or
Speaker 3: you were.
Speaker 1: I thought I was going to make it to the NBA. Honestly,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I was a slam dunk contest.
Speaker 1: Everybody from Memphis State they going to the NBA. We
Speaker 1: hope it. I had a few D one, D two scholarships. Okay,
Speaker 1: it was going down for me. You know it just
Speaker 1: at my height five eleven six foot, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. You point guard all day, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And I wanted to be there two the
Speaker 1: three on the wing. Had I got six three, sixs four,
Speaker 1: I probably would have been in there.
Speaker 6: And this is Mephis in the nineties, right like when
Speaker 6: you were growing up, and so, like you said, through
Speaker 6: six Mafia, all those people Project pat.
Speaker 1: Is on the radio play a fly against a black player,
Speaker 1: fly Man, Project pack Project.
Speaker 5: How was the city at that time?
Speaker 1: Man? It's it's it's it's always the city that love
Speaker 1: to hate. You know what I'm saying. It's like, if
Speaker 1: you can pass the hate, you gonna get checked, you
Speaker 1: gonna get roasted, you gonna get joned, you gonna get
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And if you learn how
Speaker 1: to jone back, that's what makes you Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You gotta balance it, balance
Speaker 1: the hate with the with the fight back, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And when the nigga see you can scrap.
Speaker 1: It's just like anything else, then niggas ain't fucking with
Speaker 1: you, you know what I'm saying. So it's a few fights
Speaker 1: we had it, you know what I'm saying, Bam, It's
Speaker 1: it's it's a few uh uh. You know moments that
Speaker 1: you have to prove yourself and really see what you
Speaker 1: made of when you standing in front of five hundred people,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Main places where we've sold out,
Speaker 1: uh and had the whole room literally reciting every word.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying on the rap shit as
Speaker 1: well as the beats, you know what I mean. One
Speaker 1: of the first groups I produced was a group called Trill.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm doing all the beats,
Speaker 1: I'm mixing young seventeen, you know what I'm saying, and
Speaker 1: Bam dropped. They project did another I said, with a
Speaker 1: group called a Faculty That was next. Yeah, okay, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So, Bam, Just so in high school,
Speaker 1: this practice you know what I'm saying. And me, I'm
Speaker 1: making the beats. I'm recording these niggas. I'm rapping on
Speaker 1: the beats. I'm coming up with engineering. You're making the beats.
Speaker 1: You're engineering?
Speaker 3: Are you mixing?
Speaker 1: Mixing and mastering everything? And burning the CDs? And marketing
Speaker 1: and promotion.
Speaker 3: So he took it back, he said, burning the c
Speaker 3: he's no limit right now. Oh yeah, we was at
Speaker 3: the barbershops with the nail So when when did you
Speaker 3: get your first saying when did you get your first
Speaker 3: hit record?
Speaker 1: That you was like, yo in the street was got it?
Speaker 1: That's what's up?
Speaker 3: Yo, got it? That's what's up.
Speaker 1: I did four on his life album?
Speaker 3: How did he did he call?
Speaker 2: You?
Speaker 1: Get him in the mall? You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: just moving around like okay, so probably thirteen twelve, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Twenty thirteen, Yeah, I did with
Speaker 1: my last year in the Haven. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: End up, man, Some guys try to jump me, Bam,
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't took down three of them. It's
Speaker 1: one last dude, Bam, I'm smashing him in the face
Speaker 1: with a clarinet case.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, Damn, are you literally school or something? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm coming home from school, you know, and nigga might
Speaker 1: think it's sweet you got a clarinet case, so you
Speaker 1: played clarinet or this said that woo. So it was
Speaker 1: one of them situations. Bam, I fucked these niggas up.
Speaker 1: How many it's four niggas, three of them. Then got on.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, it's cadado. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You know what I'm saying, got in some trouble.
Speaker 1: Long story short, and it was it was literally like
Speaker 1: some fresh prince of bell leir shit, like you're moving
Speaker 1: with your mom and uncle Auntie Tabelair, Like I moved
Speaker 1: to Cordova. This this suburb's so Cordova. Okay, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's nice at that time for show so NL choppic.
Speaker 1: You graduated from Cordova High School. I was the first
Speaker 1: graduating class two thousand and one. Who'd you move with?
Speaker 1: My mama? Okay, you know what I mean. So it's
Speaker 1: like just me and my mama. She got a new
Speaker 1: job out there. Bam. So Germantown Parkway or one Lane Street.
Speaker 1: This before Wolf Chase Gaalleria Mall even existed, So niggas
Speaker 1: who from Memphis know what I'm talking about. So Bam,
Speaker 1: when I got to that side, it's really like North
Speaker 1: So I'm from the South Memphis, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But it's predominantly white area. It was this one little
Speaker 1: hood in Bridgewater, you know what I'm saying. So I
Speaker 1: get cool with them. Da da Da da da. And
Speaker 1: I started learning about Bolton. I started learning about Bartley
Speaker 1: other suburbs. I started learning about Raleigh, which is more
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, West, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: but not over the state line, so you see, Gotti
Speaker 1: and I learned about Raleigh. I don't know nothing about
Speaker 1: Raleigh and Raleigh, Egypt. In this whole area I'm from,
Speaker 1: I know about white Haven and Hamilton. I went to
Speaker 1: Alsey Alsey Elementary, so Bam, I started meeting a whole
Speaker 1: different side Germantown with You know, I played varsity basketball,
Speaker 1: so Bam, ninth grade. We ain't have a tenth for
Speaker 1: eleven or twelfth grade. You know what I'm saying. It
Speaker 1: was just ninth grade and I'm playing against all these
Speaker 1: other high schools, bumping a Gotti at the mall at
Speaker 1: it's a mall in Raleigh. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Did you know who he was at the time?
Speaker 1: It was just he was on this come up just
Speaker 1: like anything else. He you know, underground, like a lot
Speaker 1: of the rappers in Memphis. You know they might be
Speaker 1: known locally, you know what I'm saying, and we call
Speaker 1: it like underground, you know what I'm saying. So the
Speaker 1: underground not not. He's headed there. You know, he's only
Speaker 1: dropped one project. So he popped on the streets. He
Speaker 1: really was popping in the streets on some whole other
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. He was that nigga on
Speaker 1: some whole other ship and was trans you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, transitioning into the rap, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And we bumped into each other. I told him I
Speaker 1: had some beats. We met at Nick Scoffold Peat Scotfold
Speaker 1: that was like the owner of Prophet Posse. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. They was some of the guys who
Speaker 1: signed d.
Speaker 3: Did you give him a Beat CD?
Speaker 1: I gave him a Beat CD, which I always would
Speaker 1: put my number on it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So He called me like, man, I want you to
Speaker 1: meet me to the studio. I got a couple of
Speaker 1: them beats I want and he was working on the
Speaker 1: Life album. So this days inevitable entertainment. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like the beginning got it the first official album.
Speaker 3: So now so now he's fucking with you and he.
Speaker 1: I did twelve songs on it on that album. So
Speaker 1: I did four tracks, My brother did foe tracks, and
Speaker 1: my producer Swizzle did four tracks on a Life album.
Speaker 1: He did a track on the car shot. I got
Speaker 1: a white shot of cheap, cheap price shot. So that
Speaker 1: was one of the singles that helped him get to
Speaker 1: deal with TVT damn. Next album, come out, back to
Speaker 1: the basics. That's what's up, come out? And when you
Speaker 1: see the shoty popul collar, then you hollered, that's what
Speaker 1: what up? Drama? Hey, what up? What's you at the studio?
Speaker 1: He made that nah, So I dropped the beat, tracked
Speaker 1: out everything. We was dropping beats on that tape.
Speaker 3: But this was this was the first song that went
Speaker 3: everywhere in the street and clubs and the radio. Like
Speaker 3: for me, how did that feel?
Speaker 1: It was? It was amazing. Man. The beat was already
Speaker 1: like prolific and anthem and triumphant. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And I always wanted to, you know, just glorify you
Speaker 1: know what we standing, folks. You know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: and what we're about. You know what I'm saying, Like, man,
Speaker 1: you should just shot out everybody. But what about what
Speaker 1: he did everybody? He would shouting out most people. But
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Six me, I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: I'm cool with these niggas. You know That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Get there. Yeah, this was the beginning of me getting
Speaker 1: in the and and just feeling that like, damn, he
Speaker 1: was in high school, right, Yeah, I was in high school.
Speaker 3: So what happened after? That's what's up Tennessee Titans.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I got with Teylor. I
Speaker 1: got a call from my brother. He was like, man
Speaker 1: in House of Blues. I had graduated high school. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, I'm just the summer going. You
Speaker 1: made in college. Hell yeah, I've been.
Speaker 3: You're making money.
Speaker 1: From making a hundred dollars tapes, just all my base tapes.
Speaker 6: But at the same time, like I said, your parents
Speaker 6: were scholars. So they really thought that school was important for.
Speaker 1: You, right right, But my dad don't know nothing about
Speaker 1: this ship what you were doing. Yeah, my dad didn't
Speaker 1: know nothing about this because I knew, you know, he
Speaker 1: was My dad at that time was just so strict
Speaker 1: you know what hip hop because still so he didn't
Speaker 1: know didn't producial music and like you.
Speaker 5: Know classical Yeah here classic train music.
Speaker 1: It's like what on't come in here playing that rap? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. So this was like some
Speaker 1: whole other I would have to practice, do what I
Speaker 1: do for him, yes, sir, no cirt and then go out.
Speaker 3: But always sounded like a Archer bands like it always
Speaker 3: sounded classical, uh.
Speaker 1: Or what I had, Like I grew up in that shit,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And I you know the
Speaker 1: difference is between me and him, Like he can play
Speaker 1: Beethoven and most Sartain Sebastian every day wild, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. When I would go to his orchestral
Speaker 1: performances and whatnot, I look at the conductor. He didn't
Speaker 1: want to charge all the music. I'd be like, man,
Speaker 1: that's what I want to you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So it was a motivation from young It was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I know what I want to do. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, take it in a different form. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: not no follower, Like I appreciate the guidance and the
Speaker 1: theory and the musicianship and the discipline it. Man, my
Speaker 1: dad was in the Navy, so I had to do
Speaker 1: a hundred push ups every morning when I woke up.
Speaker 3: How does drummer boy go from that to.
Speaker 1: Jeezy? Okay? So after I graduated high school, I went
Speaker 1: to University of Memphis. I stuck in University of Memphis
Speaker 1: for two years. During that time, I was just trying
Speaker 1: to make my name bigger. So I had that's what's up?
Speaker 1: I got with Tela. I got a call my first
Speaker 1: year in college. I got with Teyla and pulled up
Speaker 1: on him. End up doing Tennessee twenty three. He's I
Speaker 1: keep it clean man, Tennessee. Yeah, so this is the
Speaker 1: first year we got to Tennessee Titans. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I was like, man, I'm gonna make
Speaker 1: an anthem for the Tennessee Titans. So I jump on the
Speaker 1: mic do the hook. Tela like, oh man, this shit
Speaker 1: gonna be crazy. I called Gotti, gott it come through.
Speaker 1: Put a verse on I called gangst the Boot, Gangs
Speaker 1: the Boot, put a verse on it. Teela put a
Speaker 1: verse on it. Haystack was white rapper from Nashville. I
Speaker 1: was like, man, i'mnna get my nigga at Haystack were
Speaker 1: going crazy at the time. Put Haystack on the record,
Speaker 1: criminal Man. Put criminal Man on that ricord, and put
Speaker 1: all them people on one record for the Tennessee Titans anthem.
Speaker 1: So if you listen to Tennessee, I also did Strive
Speaker 1: and We Hanging on that Double Dose album. That was
Speaker 1: the Double Dose album for Tela. So Tennessee played like
Speaker 1: five six times a day on miss Ready to Drop
Speaker 1: out of car Nah. I got kicked out of college
Speaker 1: due to unattendance because I was traveling back and forth
Speaker 1: to Atlanta. So that's my June.
Speaker 3: So why are you traveling to Atlanta? People will call
Speaker 3: you now to.
Speaker 1: People pastor troy En, They'll calling me. That's one of
Speaker 1: the first people I work with. You know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying Outside against the Boo who was living in Atlanta.
Speaker 1: So I was working on her album. I did two
Speaker 1: songs on Soap Opera in quir Reminds Part two. I
Speaker 1: did a couple other songs, but one of the songs
Speaker 1: with City Streets, and the other song was Sibbing and
Speaker 1: Spinning featuring Bu and b So Sibbing and Spinning go
Speaker 1: Crazy against the Bood. Jacob York put that project out,
Speaker 1: so he put marketing dollars behind it. That shit get
Speaker 1: to go in everywhere. I'm starting to float around in Texas,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I just did the shit
Speaker 1: with Tea. Scarface called me at nineteen. I'm doing Never Never.
Speaker 1: That was a big record. That was one of the
Speaker 1: main album so, you know what I mean, that's my
Speaker 1: first placement on Scott Face. I ain't even twenty yet.
Speaker 3: You know I'm going though. When when did you get
Speaker 3: the call to do so?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get get you there? Call me and was like, man,
Speaker 1: I had to did some beasts for some niggas in Chicago,
Speaker 1: did some beasts for some niggas in Florida, did some
Speaker 1: beasts for some more niggas in North Carolina. All of
Speaker 1: them niggas got features from Troy. So it was like
Speaker 1: he had a call. He's like, bro, I gotta get
Speaker 1: your number. Bron and wrapped on three of your beasts. Bro,
Speaker 1: if I racked on another one of your beasts, I
Speaker 1: gotta meet you, you know what I mean. So this man,
Speaker 1: I'm buzzing in the street. Everybody talking about druma board.
Speaker 1: When I was seventeen, eighteen nineteen, everybody talk about drumboard,
Speaker 1: drum war, drumer, scarf face. I'm on scar face. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I'm on Teylor. That's all yo,
Speaker 1: got it? You know what I'm saying. I'm on Man Pastor, Troy.
Speaker 1: Make them get that money right, pop it, puss it,
Speaker 1: make them get that money right. So now I got
Speaker 1: Atlanta strip clubs. Remember now, Now I got Atlanta strip clubs.
Speaker 1: I ain't even old enough to get in the strip club.
Speaker 5: How did your dad feel at this time? Did he
Speaker 5: know yet? Because he had to know when you dropped out,
Speaker 5: I mean when you got kicked out.
Speaker 1: He found out three months into my suspension. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. He cool with the dean of the university.
Speaker 1: I had just I make him get that money right.
Speaker 1: Popped the pusses crazy, you know what I'm saying. And band,
Speaker 1: is he understanding working with boys in the hood? At
Speaker 1: the particular time. You know what I'm saying, So block
Speaker 1: n T like, Man, you're going crazy out here any clubs, man,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, I gotta I gotta work
Speaker 1: with you. I did some shit with bo Hagen, did
Speaker 1: some shit with Polo some other people at noon time.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Jazzy fails work on him,
Speaker 1: so bam. He was like, man, I gotta get some
Speaker 1: work with you. And I ended up doing uh Trap
Speaker 1: Niggas for Jody Breese and Gez and I had just
Speaker 1: did a paper on Jody Brees mixtape featuring Slim Thug.
Speaker 1: So now I got bum Bee's scarface slim Thug. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Texas going crazy, bam. Uh Jeez
Speaker 1: about to go solo, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: my dad caught me in that moment right there, like
Speaker 1: he found out, you know what I mean. So I
Speaker 1: basically was just joking and move and you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, trying to until he I knew I was
Speaker 1: gonna get the call. At some point he called me, Man,
Speaker 1: what the fuck is going on? Man? You gotta keep
Speaker 1: you up of school. And he was looking at the
Speaker 1: classes that I'm flunking, Like I'm flunking, fucking pe, I'm flunking.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Shit, no math, Like, man,
Speaker 1: you good at math? You good it pe? You know
Speaker 1: what I mean. But I was like, I just ain't
Speaker 1: in town. Pop. You know what I'm saying. He was like,
Speaker 1: what you doing? Dah dah dah. So he was pissed off.
Speaker 1: He was like, basically, I don't give a fuck where
Speaker 1: you're at. I need to see you tonight. I'm in Atlanta.
Speaker 1: I just you know what I'm saying. Pulled back in
Speaker 1: from North Carolina some shit, it's like new So I like,
Speaker 1: fuck it, I'm gonna get on the road right now.
Speaker 1: I got to Memphis like six thirty, pull up on
Speaker 1: Pop by seven and he got damn looked me in
Speaker 1: my eye and tell me basically like man, what you doing?
Speaker 1: Concern with my time and this and that how I
Speaker 1: was spending my time. And he was like, man, he
Speaker 1: found out. I was like, man, I'm drummer boy, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, making beats. I got this song out,
Speaker 1: I got this song out. I'm on the radio. That
Speaker 1: nigga looked me in my eyes like, man, you ain't
Speaker 1: gonna beat shit doing that shit. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Tererius coming down my eyes, Nigga like, man, you got
Speaker 1: me fucked up, nigga, drummore. I pulled out ten doown
Speaker 1: cash it on the table, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He like, man, he can't buy your mama to the house
Speaker 1: she want. Came by her the cost she want. You
Speaker 1: ain't even got no bank account or bitch. You ain't
Speaker 1: got no debit card, you ain't got no credit card.
Speaker 1: All this shit I did not have. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I walking around with wads and money like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So this shit was need older you when this happened.
Speaker 3: I'm twenty okay, you know what I'm saying, an even
Speaker 3: by alcohol.
Speaker 1: Yet didn't y'all come up with a deal. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: he made a bet with me that. He was like, man,
Speaker 1: I bet you one hundred thousand. Then, since you bad
Speaker 1: ass man ten times that, let me see one hundred
Speaker 1: thousd in your bank account. I'll give you a year,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And mind you, he said
Speaker 1: bank account. So this is you ain't gonna just be
Speaker 1: able to put No. One hundred thousand cash into no
Speaker 1: bank account, not at that time. Facts, And I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, bet And ten months later I got down.
Speaker 1: I remember taking him my bank statement and just popped
Speaker 1: up on the shoulder the bank statement and he just
Speaker 1: started laughing. And we've been best friends ever since. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he just wanted to know how serious aid it, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? He knew I was spending my
Speaker 1: time some kind of way. I told him I was
Speaker 1: making beats and whatnot, and he man, at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, you got to prove yourself. You got
Speaker 1: to back up what you're talking, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: and show that you can actually be successful doing it.
Speaker 1: And what's what's even crazier is like I did a
Speaker 1: video for my dad called The Conductor, and I conducted
Speaker 1: his last Memphis Symphony performance. Man gets some snaps for that.
Speaker 3: That's dope. Yeah, now, okay, thank you, Jez. You know
Speaker 3: I'm going because that song is arguably one of the
Speaker 3: best songs I've ever heard in my life. You do
Speaker 3: trap niggas? What happens after that? How does jes Go solo?
Speaker 1: Jz Go solo? He working on his album I'm on
Speaker 1: the couch playing Halo. You know what I'm saying, I
Speaker 1: got damn Xbox. Yeah, on Xbox. I got down. Look
Speaker 1: at the phone. I see like eight minus calls from
Speaker 1: Coach K. I see another eight miss calls from from Jez,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, damn, So I called Coach. That was
Speaker 1: the first one as I seen call coach first. Man,
Speaker 1: you talked to Gez Man call call hang up, call G, Bet,
Speaker 1: hang on call G. He's like, what up, dope. I'm like, shit,
Speaker 1: what's good, nigga? You know what I'm saying. He's like, man,
Speaker 1: I need to see if you got this beat. He
Speaker 1: played a beat for me, and when he played the
Speaker 1: beef for me, my stomach just dropped because I knew
Speaker 1: I had just sold the beat. Not just sold the beat.
Speaker 1: I sold it to Bigcat Young Sneid. So you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Young Sneak, I told you, like man,
Speaker 1: I sold that shit three months ago. Bro, that shit
Speaker 1: does that shit like the pack. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I can't get that back. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And I think that's what Jeez really like fucked with
Speaker 1: me because I stood on business. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and a lot of artists, I mean a lot of producers,
Speaker 1: they would have sold the same beat. I have seen
Speaker 1: my artists sell the same beat to two different people
Speaker 1: and act like I ain't nothing to happen.
Speaker 5: Does that cause copyright issues?
Speaker 1: Nah, They're called getting your ass whip issues. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, You might get killed issues. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, you sell me the same beat
Speaker 1: you sell him, and then y'all find out a bat
Speaker 1: and then we all in the same spot at the
Speaker 1: same time, Like, come on, bro, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I was like, bro, I did just get rectified.
Speaker 1: I told him give me the A Cappellas. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I started making beats off of Acappella.
Speaker 1: So I was like, give me the A coppell I'm
Speaker 1: gonna make a better Beatian.
Speaker 3: That's the musician in you for sure.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah. So that's what I did. I pulled off.
Speaker 1: I was staying in Stone Mountain at the time. I
Speaker 1: just paid my rent, you know what I'm saying, fifteen hundred.
Speaker 1: I was in a three bedroom. I went and got
Speaker 1: my brother in Swizzle, brought their ass down here to Atlanta.
Speaker 1: I went and got my knigga a three bedroom for
Speaker 1: fifteen hundred. Yeah, I man my brother after trap Nigga,
Speaker 1: swear to God the next day that the trap got
Speaker 1: in uh raided. Wow, swear to God. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying.
Speaker 3: The like what you saying?
Speaker 1: My life boy got in wool. So you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm I'm staying in Stone Mountain, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. That's like a fucking forty thirty minute
Speaker 1: drive to Petwork. You know what I'm saying. I probably
Speaker 1: just paid my rent. I probably had like two three
Speaker 1: hundred dollars in my pocket, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So Gas, I bent and fill up the tank, try
Speaker 1: down the pass work, pick up the vocals. Come back
Speaker 1: to Stone Man, start working on the first version. Mind
Speaker 1: you Jeezy turning in the album Like That's why I
Speaker 1: got the many calls, because like Nigga, I'm turning in
Speaker 1: the album in the morning. I need the files to
Speaker 1: this shiit. We down here with Leslie and Patchwork mixing
Speaker 1: the album. Nigga, what's up you on my album? Nigga? Congratulations?
Speaker 1: Like this this is the biggest album you can be
Speaker 1: on in the fucking.
Speaker 3: In the country.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was the biggest. See, the biggest artist was
Speaker 1: coming out of there with the biggest budget.
Speaker 5: Come on, man, and how many songs did you do?
Speaker 1: I just did one. That's how you needed what song was.
Speaker 1: But I ain't. I didn't. I haven't confirmed this shit yet.
Speaker 1: I gotta find a beat that he liked. Damn. I
Speaker 1: got to make one version. Go back to patch work.
Speaker 1: It's probably two o'clock in the morning. I got them
Speaker 1: play the first verse. He's like, man, you know you
Speaker 1: be always sprung on the first ship you did? Right?
Speaker 1: You got that writers. You know what I'm saying. What
Speaker 1: they call that ship where you it's it's some kind
Speaker 1: of you you sprung on or whatever.
Speaker 5: You already know what he wanted to hear, and he
Speaker 5: wasn't going to know.
Speaker 3: He's very particular.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he sprung on the first version, So all right, cool,
Speaker 1: I go back to another version. Come back. He's like,
Speaker 1: folk forty five. You went all the way home to
Speaker 1: come back? Yeah, I had to. That's what my equipment
Speaker 1: was that at this time, nigga, it's head ass, NPC
Speaker 1: outboard gear. You want to know, just no laptop and
Speaker 1: digitalfl studio one or none of that ship like nigga,
Speaker 1: you had to track out each sound for sound like nah,
Speaker 1: this ship was real deal big boy, which NPC was
Speaker 1: you four thousand?
Speaker 3: So this so you did? You did three versions.
Speaker 1: So okay, I go back. This is I just got.
Speaker 1: I just got denied my second version. So I'm like, nigga,
Speaker 1: fuck that, and I and I Sho'm down to probably
Speaker 1: a buck fifty and then put some gas and burn
Speaker 1: some gas in. Then mother for I got some food,
Speaker 1: got some more blunts. I'm trying to stay high. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Shit, ain't got I see. I'm
Speaker 1: finna listen to the whole trapper down the whole way home.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. The streets is watching. I
Speaker 1: got damn popped that motherfucker put that bitch in. I'm
Speaker 1: listening to every fucking song, and I'm like, God damn,
Speaker 1: you gotta do your homework. You gotta do your research.
Speaker 1: Cause the one thing I fucking noticed was that in
Speaker 1: every fucking beat, this nigga got horns.
Speaker 3: Mm hm yeah.
Speaker 1: So that's the first sound I go to on the
Speaker 1: third beat. Okay, you know what I'm saying, And that
Speaker 1: once I heard the intro to A and the Aids
Speaker 1: was sitting right ay bros a Rap, put the drums
Speaker 1: on it, took it back down. Its probably six fifteen.
Speaker 3: Which song is this?
Speaker 1: Standing I play? That was the first time I heard
Speaker 1: Jesus say his ad libs live in person, like literally.
Speaker 3: But that wasn't his biggest record that you did.
Speaker 1: That wasn't the biggest nod, But that was like.
Speaker 3: My is that your Is that your favorite record?
Speaker 1: That's my first platinum plaque? I am the Trap.
Speaker 5: How'd you feel when you got that first platinum?
Speaker 1: Man? Come on, I am the trap? Standing ovation?
Speaker 3: Is your life after this?
Speaker 1: I am the Trap?
Speaker 3: Your life changed after this?
Speaker 1: I am immediately? Everybody get is worth it? Oh? Absolutely?
Speaker 1: Like I probably went from them two hundred dollars in
Speaker 1: my pocket to like two three hundred thousand.
Speaker 5: Break that down?
Speaker 1: How that money? How that money worked?
Speaker 5: How did you?
Speaker 6: I mean, like you said you had two hundred dollars,
Speaker 6: but then you said three hundred thousand instantly?
Speaker 1: How did that come? Did that come? Like after fifty
Speaker 1: game from a publishing deal? You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: just because you know, I had an incredible opportunity, Like
Speaker 1: I made a U Turn. One time, Squeaked told I
Speaker 1: was pulling in the Myphis about to work on Bolling g.
Speaker 1: Squeak hit me out the blue, was like, man, you
Speaker 1: might want to be here for this session in Atlanta.
Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, I'm literally driving into Memphis. So I
Speaker 1: called Balling GCEE if I could work on something another play,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, push them back. He was like, man,
Speaker 1: we got to perform the night anyway, So cool. I
Speaker 1: make a U turn, go back to Atlanta, get to
Speaker 1: the studio, and I'm in the studio with Brian Michael Cox,
Speaker 1: John Tay, you know what I mean. Chris Hicks May
Speaker 1: did a lot with Mary J. Blige and all these
Speaker 1: different things huge, you know what I mean. And at
Speaker 1: the time he was the president of Wanna Chapel, so damn.
Speaker 1: He was like, after he heard the music from that night,
Speaker 1: he knew I was gone to New Heights. He know
Speaker 1: where I was gonna land placements and what was gonna
Speaker 1: be what But he publishing deal, like you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, he hadn't even heard standing Ovation. It wasn't
Speaker 1: even out yet, you know what I'm saying. That's it
Speaker 1: was probably coming out in like three or four weeks.
Speaker 1: He didn't even know about that. Then standing ovation drop,
Speaker 1: Then we dropped White Girl. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Then implies reach out man, I do shawty t pain.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Come on, damn rock Tho,
Speaker 1: reach out I do. I'm gonna do me. Then Drake
Speaker 1: Call out the Blue, one of my goons from Canadian Canada.
Speaker 1: He's like, man, you know what I'm saying. I got
Speaker 1: an artist from the GRASSI he working. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. First song, we do Money to Blow, Money
Speaker 1: to Blow from Rick Ross Car We do here. I
Speaker 1: am keep going. You know what I'm saying. Two chains,
Speaker 1: I'm run around on getting August. I've seen the hit Man.
Speaker 1: We do No Love feature Nicki Minaj. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Walker out the Blue man, Bro, I need
Speaker 1: you bro. Okay, he got hard in the paint. I
Speaker 1: give him no hands. You know what I'm saying. It's
Speaker 1: a photo shoot. First record men Gucci did, followed by
Speaker 1: I Think I Love Them and another whole thousand of records.
Speaker 1: Me and Gucci got about about a catalog of three
Speaker 1: four hundred records that's out and they ain't talking about
Speaker 1: the shit that we recorded.
Speaker 6: So would you say this all sparked after the Jez
Speaker 6: of Standing Ovation song?
Speaker 1: Absolutely, like that was like the beginning to everything.
Speaker 3: That was the standard.
Speaker 1: That's the first platinum plaque. So you know they're coming back.
Speaker 3: Do you even have all space for your I just bought.
Speaker 1: A whole another house, you know what I'm saying, Just.
Speaker 3: For see you're that flex Okay, so you have You're
Speaker 3: one of the rare producers that are that can talk
Speaker 3: to people who want to kill each other like you.
Speaker 3: You can. You literally have a relationship with people who
Speaker 3: have major beefs and you've never got in between. That
Speaker 3: isn't that difficult for you?
Speaker 1: It is? But what's different for me is that I
Speaker 1: was cool with these niggas when they was cool. Okay,
Speaker 1: So don't put me in the middle of what y'all
Speaker 1: got going on. They ain't got shit to do with me,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like we keep this shit.
Speaker 1: Was it ever an awkward moment? Hell no, because I
Speaker 1: know how to move. I'm not over here click hopping.
Speaker 1: I ain't over here trying to hang with these niggas.
Speaker 1: Ain't over here trying to hang with these niggas. When
Speaker 1: I'm invited certain places where I need to host it
Speaker 1: even or do some business. Let me know what it is.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But these these I'm not
Speaker 1: claiming this shit. You know what I'm saying. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: I'm I make the beats, and you slick.
Speaker 3: Be knowing what it is. But you can't say nothing.
Speaker 1: It ain't nothing for me to say. I ain't got
Speaker 1: nothing to do. I don't give up, man, That's that's
Speaker 1: what you. You got that shit to handle. If you
Speaker 1: feel some way about this, man, it's up to you.
Speaker 1: How you handle your business, not up to me.
Speaker 2: And I like how you said you know you wasn't
Speaker 2: going around being clicked to click like you wasn't be like, hey,
Speaker 2: I'm making beats, you know with the so icy boys,
Speaker 2: so I'm so icy or you know.
Speaker 1: I don't want to see teasing chain on it. I
Speaker 1: got drum squad, chain man, my chain biggest. These niggas changed,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And I had a big
Speaker 1: ass golden black motherfucking plaque by icebox Man. Shout out
Speaker 1: the mo weaking a drum squad?
Speaker 6: Do you have your own producers and artists under your
Speaker 6: Is that a label?
Speaker 1: Absolutely? Producers, artists, soundwriters, musicians, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We just signed Cash Jay yesterday, New paperworking the building.
Speaker 1: Cash j one of the most incredible producers. Man, this
Speaker 1: kid got so much great music and we got hell
Speaker 1: of music together, like Chris Beats, north Side, beats by
Speaker 1: Avery H. Questionizer, you know what I'm saying, beats by
Speaker 1: every thirteen Questionizer nineteen. Like we got young boys and
Speaker 1: we got my boy, uh twenty four, my other boy
Speaker 1: twenty seven. Like, man, I like how.
Speaker 3: You do artists development with your weird artists. I think
Speaker 3: that lacks in this time. I think a lot of
Speaker 3: people want everything to be ready, and sometimes things can
Speaker 3: seem like they're ready because of a hit record and
Speaker 3: people gravitating towards the record. But I think from what
Speaker 3: I've seen, I see that you do a lot of
Speaker 3: artists development, which I think is dope, and I think
Speaker 3: that's lacking in the industry.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hell yeah, man, Cuz you know, by the time
Speaker 1: you stopped fucking with an artist, he just found itself.
Speaker 1: And now you put in all of that work with
Speaker 1: this person in there and just watch him just take
Speaker 1: the fuck off, you know what I'm saying. I saw
Speaker 1: that with Young Blue. Young Blue was one of the
Speaker 1: first artists I had on the drum Squad, and the
Speaker 1: people who was behind him was like, did we out?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, They just left. They had
Speaker 1: some differences. Da da Da da dah. Young Blue end
Speaker 1: up signing with Boosie, But the first song that got
Speaker 1: him his deal with Boosy was a song I produced
Speaker 1: called go Ahead. You know what I mean. If you
Speaker 1: go look at the video right now, you see drum Squad.
Speaker 1: The artwork got Drum Squad on it, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So it's like, Bam. It be certain situations
Speaker 1: where I was like, all right, I gotta start doing
Speaker 1: this for myself, you know what I mean, And Bam,
Speaker 1: spark Dog going crazy right now.
Speaker 6: Being that you started off with Yo Gotti and seeing
Speaker 6: how he is like kind of like taking over the
Speaker 6: game right now with his label and having all the
Speaker 6: Memphis artists, how do you feel about Memphis, you know,
Speaker 6: in their kind of resurgence and being in the forefront
Speaker 6: of hip hop.
Speaker 1: Now we've been pushing the flag forever, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Every picture, every photo, every moment, every interview.
Speaker 1: We're throwing up Memphis. You know what I'm saying. We
Speaker 1: shining that spotlight on a lot of those artists. I've
Speaker 1: been working with Glorella Man for seven eight years. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Little gloss Man, same situation. You've
Speaker 1: been working there for years. Oh yeah, I've been doing
Speaker 1: them like I'm cool with these folks, daddies and mamas,
Speaker 1: all got your family. You know what I'm saying. Money
Speaker 1: bags ze Bo and a couple other guys was first
Speaker 1: to tell me about money. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Ken Folk Thugs was popping at at one particular time
Speaker 1: with the record, bag it up and dump it and
Speaker 1: the whole time this song popping and doing what it's doing.
Speaker 1: All he doing is telling me about the next who
Speaker 1: coming up? Young dog Man, You gotta work with your
Speaker 1: dog man. You gotta work with my boy g Man.
Speaker 1: He would not let me live. You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: you gotta work with yondg. I gotta video on my
Speaker 1: Instagram drummer Boy Fresh where dof rapped for me the
Speaker 1: first time and it's pinned like one of my pin posts.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. But check that out.
Speaker 3: How did losing Dolph affect you, because I know it
Speaker 3: affected you.
Speaker 1: Man. It was It's like it felt like getting knocked
Speaker 1: out by Mike Tyson. You know what I'm saying. It's
Speaker 1: like you gotta find some way to pick yourself up,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Because this was like the
Speaker 1: homie like you know what I'm saying. Me and God
Speaker 1: it cool, you know what I mean. But the relationship
Speaker 1: I had with Dolph was just different. Like Dolph was
Speaker 1: more like Gucci. You know what I'm saying, some guy
Speaker 1: like you know, if I had to compare, I would say,
Speaker 1: got it more like Jezu. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: They might be serious and in the studio and just
Speaker 1: you know, for the most part, keep a certain tone,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Doll for Gucci, silly as hell,
Speaker 1: cracking jokes. Mind what you want to eat? Drum what
Speaker 1: we're gonna eat today? Food? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Make we want the chicken out? Give me what you get.
Speaker 1: I want that old beezy bee man, Give me that
Speaker 1: a quarter. Chicky man, all white me man with the
Speaker 1: yams and maga chee. Yeah, I want it. Rocco, same way,
Speaker 1: just out going So for Rocco, you know what I.
Speaker 3: Mean, said he got an album coming out. You believe that.
Speaker 1: He said he got three of them. I don't know
Speaker 1: what I got on any you know, I'm just glad
Speaker 1: he dropping music, you know what I'm saying. But uh,
Speaker 1: you know, me and Dolph was just he was just
Speaker 1: cool everywhere I was going. I introduced him in the
Speaker 1: two Chain, introduced him in the Gucci You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Telling everybody, Man, I'm telling you, man, the
Speaker 1: next thing out of Memphis, off next nigga got of Memphis.
Speaker 1: Told ever everybody that you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: there's a lot of niggas will tell you what songs
Speaker 1: you have with Dolph. First song I ever did with
Speaker 1: Dolf was Flay was Gonna Welcome to Doph World Flay
Speaker 1: Drama Ball on the track. Yeah, I paid a lot
Speaker 1: for that, Flay, you know what I'm saying. Like that
Speaker 1: was the first junt we did, and I was on
Speaker 1: every project after that.
Speaker 2: I feel like with Memphis, y'all have a lot of talent,
Speaker 2: but I feel like Memphis is just so divided.
Speaker 1: It's kind of weird, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Like Atlanta is like all these artists in Atlanta, they
Speaker 2: all work together, you know, they kind of all came
Speaker 2: up together. Memphis is like y'all have a lot of artists,
Speaker 2: but I feel like it's just so divided.
Speaker 1: Because it's It's like I honestly felt like, Man, I
Speaker 1: got to figure out how to rebrand the city we
Speaker 1: love to hate, you know what I'm saying, because it
Speaker 1: would just always be that. So I dropped the project
Speaker 1: called Welcome to My City, Volume one, Volume two, Volume three,
Speaker 1: Volume four, which which is considered the unification process of Memphis,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. That's why I got the
Speaker 1: Key to the City of Memphis and all that, and
Speaker 1: just doing what I can to bring guys together, to
Speaker 1: show positivity and to show that we can come together
Speaker 1: on certain shit. So you know, for the most part,
Speaker 1: you know, we've done a good job, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And I think it's you know, getting better
Speaker 1: and better, you know what I'm saying, as we you know,
Speaker 1: have taken our ls, you know what I mean. But
Speaker 1: at the same time, it's a lot of w's, It's
Speaker 1: a lot of wins, you know what I'm saying. God
Speaker 1: is showing an incredible example of unification and uplifting the city,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And Dolf was doing it too,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, those are the two of
Speaker 1: the biggest.
Speaker 3: Do you think that they would have would have eventually
Speaker 3: settled their differences?
Speaker 1: Oh? I think the depth of the entourage just make
Speaker 1: it too difficult. They might not have been these two people,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, you gotta look at it like like, look
Speaker 1: at the world, look at look at the presidents, look
Speaker 1: at the real gangsters and mobs and bosses. Man, at
Speaker 1: some point you're gonna have to sit down at the
Speaker 1: table with your enemy.
Speaker 3: I don't think, because I don't think. I never thought
Speaker 3: JZ and Gucci would have had that versus. Do you
Speaker 3: think that that could have eventually happened for them too?
Speaker 1: I think it could have, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: In a certain way, I just think that, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, It's different like if it was some bus,
Speaker 1: if it was a business discrepancy or some shit like that.
Speaker 1: At some point, you know, it's gonna eat away your soul,
Speaker 1: It's gonna eat away your conscience. You're gonna, you know,
Speaker 1: feel like Damn, I should forget his gal, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Damn da da dah, I did run
Speaker 1: off with his two hundred, or I did run off
Speaker 1: with his meal. Here you go, man with some on
Speaker 1: top one point five two men? You know, whatever the fuck?
Speaker 1: I think situations like that are a little easier to handle.
Speaker 1: But I think once a nigga lose respect for you,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, it ain't no turning back,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So At, you know, whatever
Speaker 1: whatever happened, or you know, you show your hand and
Speaker 1: you show that you you bringing up something that might
Speaker 1: not have nothing to do with money or or or business,
Speaker 1: and you bringing up some personal shit. I think it
Speaker 1: just makes it difficult, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So you feel like the disc song was just kind
Speaker 2: of likes it went too personal.
Speaker 1: So I think once they go personal, is it ain't
Speaker 1: no turning back.
Speaker 2: The last question I want to ask was like, when
Speaker 2: I was talking about doing the split seet, what about
Speaker 2: the people like that your homeboys is in there and
Speaker 2: they give you an idea to throw a line out? Dude,
Speaker 2: those guys be one percentages on publishing and things of
Speaker 2: that nature. Sometimes, you know what I mean, even if
Speaker 2: it's one percent, two percent, you gave me a line,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You might have gave me a bar. You might get
Speaker 1: a point five or a or something, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And like I've seen guys with three percent
Speaker 1: make eight hundred thousand, So you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: I'd rather have a percentage of something than one hundred
Speaker 1: percent or nothing.
Speaker 5: To wrap it all up, How does your dad feel now?
Speaker 1: Oh? My dad feel great. Man. We just he just
Speaker 1: played clearing it on like twenty beats, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, working and doing all kind of stuff. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to get him playing more jazz and by ear
Speaker 1: and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: He has embraced the hip hop.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he called me. I'm riding around.
Speaker 5: I'm getting Would y'all ever do a joint project together?
Speaker 1: Oh? Hell yeah? You know what I'm saying. Absolutely, we
Speaker 1: did twenty songs. I'm'a try to get him back down
Speaker 1: here to do another twenty songs. I just bought him
Speaker 1: a pro tools set up so he learned how to
Speaker 1: record on pro tools. Does and all that he recording
Speaker 1: right at the house.
Speaker 6: Well, I'm just so proud of your journey and you
Speaker 6: know all your accolades that you have, you have, you know,
Speaker 6: came through and done.
Speaker 3: You actually don't know this, but I first met you,
Speaker 3: I was at least in the agent of that apartment
Speaker 3: complex for real.
Speaker 1: Yep, for Rea just Movedanta snuck past me right there.
Speaker 3: So like I just had just moved to Atlanta. I
Speaker 3: ain't had no money, so I was like, let me
Speaker 3: let me work and live at the same place. And
Speaker 3: you had got an apartment for one of your artists.
Speaker 3: You put it, you put in your business. Now, I
Speaker 3: wass ad, that's crazy. Put that out. It's like, it's
Speaker 3: crazy thousand and nine.
Speaker 1: What that was? Apex aex? I can say that over there.
Speaker 3: I was listing agent over there.
Speaker 1: We was one of the first ones moving the I
Speaker 1: lived there for a minute and then band once I
Speaker 1: moved out, got another condo.
Speaker 3: And I was like, man, you had an artist. Was
Speaker 3: a girl artist I forget her name though from New Orleans.
Speaker 3: I forget her name, but it was a girl. I
Speaker 3: did your paperwork.
Speaker 1: Oh damn, what happened to her? She's still rapping? Uh,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. She had a baby. I
Speaker 1: think she got married, had a baby a baby.
Speaker 3: Okay, that was her. She was short. She was short,
Speaker 3: remember that from New Orleans. Man did your paperwork? You
Speaker 3: said the world. You had all your ship in line too.
Speaker 3: I had did a little credit check everything. Everything's boo.
Speaker 3: You came. I remember you had a little Sheeta texts.
Speaker 3: I was like, damn, this is drummer boy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, what's the drummer boy guy coming up?
Speaker 1: I'm working on my documentary Behind the Hits and the
Speaker 1: book coming out well for pre order on my birthday.
Speaker 5: And you have Beauty and the Beats.
Speaker 1: Absolutely Beauty and the Beasts podcast. Shout out to Jessica
Speaker 1: doing Ak a dime.
Speaker 3: I talked to you when you were finished doing your podcast.
Speaker 3: That's how I got you over here.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah. So yeah we got another.
Speaker 1: She got a show coming out called The Mint. Y'all
Speaker 1: check that out on now that's TV. That's gonna be
Speaker 1: super cool.
Speaker 5: How did that come about? The Beauty and the Beast
Speaker 5: Me and.
Speaker 1: Don just been cool, like you know what I'm saying gangstabout.
Speaker 1: I always been like, man, y'all need to work together.
Speaker 1: Man need to work together. She's from Memphis. Her husband
Speaker 1: Sean Williams is like my niggas. So she was yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: played for the Lakers, play for Miami Heat. Uh. He
Speaker 1: had a Memphis too, and he was, you know, spending
Speaker 1: money with me on a particular artist that end the
Speaker 1: getting locked up, and man, we always just kept a
Speaker 1: relationship going. Me and Dying Peace was talking on the phone.
Speaker 1: We had just did a couple of new records on
Speaker 1: her music, and we was like, man, what do we
Speaker 1: did the podcast together? And she was like, Man, I'm down, drum,
Speaker 1: I'm down. I was like, man, we'll kill that shit.
Speaker 1: So she was like, well, we're gonna call it. So
Speaker 1: I did a post on the Instagram like, man, me
Speaker 1: and Dying Peace do a podcast. What we're gonna college?
Speaker 1: And man, a lot of people was like, man, beauty
Speaker 1: in the beats, Beauty and the beats nice before we go.
Speaker 3: That's that's that's the camera right there. Can we get
Speaker 3: you and xatoven on this versus man or what.
Speaker 1: I've been waiting on it? Man, I'm doing a lot
Speaker 1: of work at ETP. He doing some work with me
Speaker 1: and did so you know what I'm saying, we working heavily.
Speaker 1: We already did this, I honestly on the be be
Speaker 1: on my you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But I want to see another one.
Speaker 1: Come on, let's go, man, Holland Swiss. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Timberland, what's up? What's happening? Man? Can we
Speaker 1: get the verses or what? Man? People? I think the
Speaker 1: people ready for about that?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 6: Yeah, Okay, throughout all this time, were you in a
Speaker 6: relationship or did you ever find yourself married at a point?
Speaker 1: Never been married. I've been in and out of different relationships,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But you know it's it's
Speaker 1: it's like I've been owned since high school. So it's
Speaker 1: for me, it's always been hard to know who to
Speaker 1: trust and who who gonna really love you for this
Speaker 1: and who gonna you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Just being a ball player.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Like, man, that shit just get tricky, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And I was so like, this
Speaker 1: is my career, man, I'm focused on stoning in my
Speaker 1: name first and making a name for myself. And now
Speaker 1: I'm in a position man, turn in forty forty years
Speaker 1: of greatness. Birthday party coming up right August August eleven.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So, Man, I was talking
Speaker 1: to a dude. He was like, man, life really don't
Speaker 1: start to you fifty. You know what, so different people
Speaker 1: got their different you know what I'm saying. Perception, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, or theory or whatever. So it
Speaker 1: just you know, I feel like I'm young as hell. Bro.
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm opening up a whole new chapter
Speaker 1: with the knowledge that I got the energy that I have,
Speaker 1: Like it's even more energy than I had then, and
Speaker 1: I'm moving more strategically. So is that your daughter with you, Na,
Speaker 1: that's my niece. That's insane, Okay, Selena.
Speaker 3: I do kids yourself?
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Yeah, all the time is coming, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Kids, Yet I wouldn't have been able to
Speaker 1: do what I've done, you know what I'm saying, in
Speaker 1: a marriage or in a relationship and trying to divide myself.
Speaker 1: Anything I do, I'm gonna give it one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: So when I do go into that world in that chapter,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give that one hundred percent. And I got
Speaker 1: enough producers under me now to work. I can still
Speaker 1: take over the game, finish and complete albums, do movie scores,
Speaker 1: things of that nature, and still have a person.
Speaker 3: I do want to say, and I do want to
Speaker 3: highlight your brother RP that insane way. I met him
Speaker 3: multiple times, great guy. When we lost him, I know
Speaker 3: that fucked you up. How are you able to? And
Speaker 3: from outside looking in, you did a great job maintaining yourself.
Speaker 3: But I didn't see you you you know, and I
Speaker 3: know you probably grieved in your own time if that happened.
Speaker 3: But I saw strength from you at a time where
Speaker 3: I was just like you know, and I know his
Speaker 3: daughter is here, so I'm not trying to get too
Speaker 3: emotional about it, but I had such a high regard
Speaker 3: for him. That shit fucked me up. But I was
Speaker 3: strong because I saw you were strong.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how did you? They honestly made me strong, Like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. My nephew, you know, knowing
Speaker 1: he was about to turn you know, eighteen at the
Speaker 1: time and she was turning sixteen, and you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Devin and raving the older kids that he got,
Speaker 1: you know, he left folk grand babies, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. So just being there for my mama, like, okay,
Speaker 1: whoa who mama gonna lean on? Who the kids gonna
Speaker 1: lean on? Who my brother's keeper? Like I gotta step
Speaker 1: up and do everything I can to be the rock.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I went straight to the
Speaker 1: studio and dropped the whole project my brother's keeper, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, rap project, just to get some
Speaker 1: of my emotions out, you know what I mean, and
Speaker 1: kind of speak on certain things. Thatspired.
Speaker 3: Was that the therapeutic thing that.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, absolutely you know what I'm saying. And it keep going. Man,
Speaker 1: Just seeing success in the family, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: and doing everything that I know he want me to do,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, or completing out his visions.
Speaker 1: Thank you for and that's very honorable.
Speaker 6: What are some of the some career mistakes that you've
Speaker 6: seen or made yourself throughout your whole time?
Speaker 1: Oh man, it might be getting behind in taxes, not
Speaker 1: taking tax money and putting that shit to the side.
Speaker 1: We first thing, we're going buying this Chaine cars, clothes,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Throwing ones in the strip club,
Speaker 1: all this shit. You might say thank you to the
Speaker 1: strippers before you say thank you to Uncle Sam, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And man, it's little things like
Speaker 1: that that at the end of the year when you
Speaker 1: see you owe seventy thousand or sixty or thirty or
Speaker 1: whatever it is. Man had it money to the side.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, pay them taxes because you
Speaker 1: get behind. Now you're getting hit with extra five thousand
Speaker 1: dollar penalty, an extra ten thousan dollar penalty. Like the
Speaker 1: penalties are so harsh and heavy it don't even make sense.
Speaker 1: So you you should, you know, just pay that shit
Speaker 1: up up front, you know what I mean. You can
Speaker 1: even do estimated payments, you know what I'm saying, and
Speaker 1: pay quarterly. So at the end of the year you
Speaker 1: might not you might owe thirty, but you made fifteen
Speaker 1: thousand estimated payments. Okay, so now you just got fifteen left,
Speaker 1: so we make things a little easier. But outside of that,
Speaker 1: you know, I always been on the business. I always
Speaker 1: been on the split sheet's been on the publishing. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. The best lawyers, and shout out
Speaker 1: squeak Man, the management that's always kept me grounded, having
Speaker 1: older guys around. Shout out to tr Terry Ross. We
Speaker 1: just did the All White with d Nice at Carnegie Hall.
Speaker 1: It's just been great to have adult management squad.
Speaker 4: We'll be right by stay tuned with more of the
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Speaker 1: You know what's going on. This is drummer Board aka
Speaker 1: d Boy Fresh and you tuned in right here with
Speaker 1: me on the Ball of Alert Show. We beneficial.
Speaker 3: It is time for baller mail. Dear ball Alert. My
Speaker 3: lady is moving in with me, and it's eating me
Speaker 3: up inside that we didn't discuss how we are going
Speaker 3: to split the bills. What's the best way for me
Speaker 3: to say that? I'd want her to go half on
Speaker 3: the bills.
Speaker 5: Tell her you have the bills.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's that simple. Yeah, I got that, I got
Speaker 1: my hair.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you sound you sound like the young man. This
Speaker 3: sounds like y'all in college because you going to have
Speaker 3: this conversation before. You sound like you in the moving
Speaker 3: truckle you dm be, my boy. Sounds like you're already
Speaker 3: about to move here right now. I will say, if
Speaker 3: it's your crib, and it's already your crib, you already
Speaker 3: paying them bills, ain't you?
Speaker 1: But it sounds like they're they're moving into a new
Speaker 1: spot together. Yeah, that's what I thought. That's the gist
Speaker 1: that guy like they go get a new spot or something.
Speaker 3: Just communicate with a young man.
Speaker 5: That's what the relationship is about. Communication, honesty, be honest
Speaker 5: and say.
Speaker 1: That you and if you ain't can't do it, don't
Speaker 1: feel like you forced to do the shit like you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, if you ain't ready to be
Speaker 1: like man, I ain't you know, I don't think I'm
Speaker 1: ready to handle that move yet.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, and speak on that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I would definitely say definitely be honest for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah cool.
Speaker 5: Before we get out of here, we got a pep
Speaker 5: talk with drummer Boy.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, this sul Wore Drumma Boy, akad Boy,
Speaker 1: fridsh Man and this pep talk with me. I would say, man,
Speaker 1: copyright your music, you know what I'm saying, before you
Speaker 1: sending it into anybody. You know what I mean, so
Speaker 1: they don't be stealing your ideas and whatnot. I preached it.
Speaker 1: Make sure you do a split sheet so you know
Speaker 1: who go to what you know what I'm saying, what
Speaker 1: percentage going where? You know what I'm saying, the name
Speaker 1: sign off on it. Okayen, all right, that's one fifty.
Speaker 1: That's the music side, and we got another twenty five
Speaker 1: percent twenty five percent. You wrote the diverse and we
Speaker 1: did the hook and whatnot, the gether and I did
Speaker 1: my verse. Man, we split that twenty five to twenty five.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Sign off it. That shows
Speaker 1: one hundred percent of the music where it goes. Bamn,
Speaker 1: everybody get their money?
Speaker 6: What does it take from the time you write the
Speaker 6: song to cut the check time?
Speaker 1: Usually it's generated after at least three months, so I
Speaker 1: think it's like two months, three months of it generating,
Speaker 1: and then depending on where it lands, you' gonna get
Speaker 1: more money when it's playing on radio.
Speaker 3: So that's why everybody wants their song on the radio, right,
Speaker 3: Not everybody got that radio budget.
Speaker 6: But although do you think that's so important with so
Speaker 6: many streaming services.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, radio it's still a lot of people listening
Speaker 1: in the cars. There's still a lot of people you're
Speaker 1: gonna touch. That's that's still a fan base of people
Speaker 1: that you're gonna you know what I mean, when you
Speaker 1: get to those areas and perform live, they know your words.
Speaker 3: If I'm wrong, radio gives a higher return because the
Speaker 3: streaming is not as much.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, streaming is like piss poor compared to radio, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? So you want your stuff on
Speaker 1: TV on sync?
Speaker 6: Seeing radio and licensing is a very big moneymaker.
Speaker 1: Huge, I honestly, which is battling my safe I've made
Speaker 1: I've generated man at you know, at least twenty meal
Speaker 1: just on just the music side. But then, okay, man,
Speaker 1: I'm on my ass on the sink side. What's sinkin
Speaker 1: the light? TV placements? He got you? I just need
Speaker 1: a Hulu placement. I just did. I'm workwhill I can't
Speaker 1: even Okay, I'm working a couple of documentaries, movies and
Speaker 1: TV stuff like that. That's sink.
Speaker 5: How'd you get into that?
Speaker 1: I've always been in that, just from the orchestra side.
Speaker 1: So that's where that knowledge come back. Being able to
Speaker 1: compose and arrange and create things to match the emotion
Speaker 1: of what you can read notes and shit absolutely or.
Speaker 5: How does a person get into wanting?
Speaker 6: If if a Joe Blow wants to have his stuff
Speaker 6: in TV, how do they get into that?
Speaker 1: First? You got to practice and be good at what
Speaker 1: you do. So you could take a movie like I
Speaker 1: used to watch TV right and I could record no sound,
Speaker 1: turn the music on mute and record thirty seconds of
Speaker 1: something you're watching on TV right, and then you can
Speaker 1: take the MOV file and put it into your pro
Speaker 1: tools and make music to it. So you can make
Speaker 1: your own music to what you just recorded on your phone.
Speaker 1: Oh you crazy? That's great, And now you practice scoring
Speaker 1: to see when you watch it back, how does it
Speaker 1: make you feel? Does it feel like this music is
Speaker 1: in the right spot? And going back and forth and
Speaker 1: picking the right music in these different sections to make
Speaker 1: this shit feel if not better than what the music
Speaker 1: was originally.
Speaker 5: But how do they get it there?
Speaker 6: Do they upload it on a website or do they
Speaker 6: have to how relationships?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Going to scoring conventions, going
Speaker 1: to you know a lot of these events and meeting
Speaker 1: these people, you know what I mean. Or you can
Speaker 1: google how to submit for different sinc. And you'll find
Speaker 1: opportunities on Google where they might have submissions for this
Speaker 1: movie coming up in an email, or submissions for this
Speaker 1: movie coming up in an email and just tap in
Speaker 1: like you never know, but before you send those emails,
Speaker 1: make sure the you've made this copywritten. So now if
Speaker 1: they take something more, replace something more, use your shit
Speaker 1: and you ain't even know it. You can go back
Speaker 1: and sue because you're the copyright owner. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean, that piece of paper that they send you
Speaker 1: from the Library of Congress that stands up in court
Speaker 1: very well.
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