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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe, Katty Armstrong and

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Speaker 1: Jettie and now he.

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Speaker 2: Is Armstrong and Yeddy.

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Speaker 3: Live from studio seat see Senior, a dimly lit room

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Speaker 3: deeper in the bowels of the Armstrong and Getty Communications Compound.

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Speaker 2: And hey y'all, today Monday, brand.

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Speaker 3: New week that were kicking off or under the tutelage

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Speaker 3: of our general manager, the Charlie Kirk conversation far from over.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, God, I would say so.

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Speaker 4: Every single news outlet I took in today, including NPR,

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Speaker 4: led with something Charlie Kirk related.

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Speaker 3: Virtually everybody I ran into in real life wanted to talk.

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Speaker 2: About it over the weekend.

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Speaker 3: I have some strange and troubling anecdotes from real life

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Speaker 4: So I just came across this before I get to

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Speaker 4: my big question. The Jack's big question is what I

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Speaker 4: call it? Oh, this's early in the show. The Emmys

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Speaker 4: didn't mention Charlie Kirk. Wow, okay, wow, didn't mention it

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Speaker 4: at all. I can so picture that process, Yes, so

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Speaker 4: can I, And I can I can sew as I

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Speaker 4: think about it because I just read that. I hadn't

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Speaker 4: really thought about it, But so all but five NFL

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Speaker 4: games had a moment of silence home games yesterday, the

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Speaker 4: home stadium. Now, I don't know how many NFL games

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Speaker 4: there are on a Sunday. There are thirty teams. You

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Speaker 4: cut them in half, that's fifteen. A quarter of them

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Speaker 3: Ten games on a Sunday something like that, because it's

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Speaker 3: one of Thursdays, so maybe only eight. So about half

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Speaker 3: of them had some sort of moment of silence at

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Speaker 3: the stadium.

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Speaker 2: No mention on the Emmys. Wow.

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Speaker 3: But the process that I mentioned that I picture and

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Speaker 3: I'm damn sure I'm right, is some bodies said, you know,

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Speaker 3: we probably ought to mention it, pay our respects in

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Speaker 3: some way. And somebody else said, well, a guy was evil.

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Speaker 3: Who's a bad guy, I mean, he was terrible. Why

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Speaker 3: would we respect him like that? And they went round

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Speaker 3: and round and round, and then just decided, all right,

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Speaker 2: And or.

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Speaker 4: If we mentioned him and have a moment of silence,

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Speaker 4: half the crowd is gonna boo oh, and that would

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Speaker 4: be worse than not doing anything right, which is probably

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Speaker 4: true for your look the imman. Nobody gives a crap

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Speaker 4: about the emm He's certainly nobody than our audience, but really, Emmys.

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Speaker 4: So I watched the first part of it. Your first presenter.

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Speaker 4: The first thing that happens.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the host of the Late Show, Stephen Colbert, and

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Speaker 3: everybody goes to their feet and it's a ridiculously long

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Speaker 3: standing over for Steven Colbert, who obviously was fired for

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Speaker 3: bad mounting trump standing ovation. He had trouble getting the

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Speaker 3: calm down enough that he could even get to what

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Speaker 3: he had to say.

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Speaker 2: Wow, first guest, I thought.

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Speaker 3: First thing, you just you announced to America anybody in

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Speaker 4: This show isn't for you. I just want to make

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Speaker 4: sure you know this show is not for you. Not

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Speaker 4: only that we'd prefer you didn't watch. I mean go

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Speaker 4: away about that.

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Speaker 3: You know that's funny as you brought up Colbert, and

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Speaker 3: I was reminded of a couple of things. Number one

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Speaker 3: I was like, oh, wasn't there some sort of weak

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Speaker 3: He's a martyr for progressive America angle right, Yeah, that's

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Speaker 3: the whole merger deal.

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Speaker 2: So just the most thunderous standing ovation.

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Speaker 3: We'll play it for you later, and then later he wins,

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Speaker 3: of course for Best Variety Show, which he did win

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Speaker 3: on a regular basis, but of course he was gonna

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Speaker 3: win this year. Do you know Jimmy Kimmel took out

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Speaker 3: a billboard in Los Angeles saying vote for Stephen Colbert

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Speaker 2: So just just.

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Speaker 4: Just that sort of thing that we're still, you know,

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Speaker 4: not that tribalism was going to end with the assassination

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Speaker 4: of Charlie Kirk, but right from the beginning last night,

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Speaker 4: then no moment of silence. But here's my question, Jack's

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Speaker 4: with this. Is it just a coincidence that a student

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Speaker 4: asked a question about transactivists and shootings when Charlie Cook

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Speaker 4: that just a coincidence?

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Speaker 3: It's almost too much to not be a coincidence. But

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Speaker 3: That's a heck of a coincidence. You're there to commit

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Speaker 3: decided to go there and kill him?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Am I supposed to believe that his friends hadn't come up,

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Speaker 2: But that's a heck of a coincidence.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like I said, it's almost too much. So

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Speaker 3: here's an anecdote from real life. And I got to

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Speaker 3: tell the story backward. Get into the radio ranch. Today

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Speaker 3: Fox News is on and they are talking about the thousands,

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Speaker 3: tens of thousands of young people who went to church

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Speaker 3: this weekend who normally don't inspired by Charlie Kirk and

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Speaker 3: they wanted to look into it because his beliefs were

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Speaker 3: so important to him, And they are talking about that.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how many people it was, and.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if it lasts or how significant it was,

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Speaker 3: but I thought that was interesting, especially because I have

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Speaker 3: it on very good authority that certain pulpits in America,

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Speaker 3: many of them in blue states, but not all. The

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Speaker 3: pastor stated unequivocally though Charlie Kirk spread hate and division.

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Speaker 3: Still his murder was not justified, and we pray for

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Speaker 3: his family. Really stated it as fact that he spread

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Speaker 3: quote unquote hate and division.

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Speaker 2: And that's the great maneuver.

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Speaker 3: I happen to be reading a terrific new book, short read,

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Speaker 3: easy read, great read, Greg Lukianov in a gal he

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Speaker 3: works with. I'm sorry, I know his work, not hers,

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Speaker 3: but she's the co author. It's the ten most common

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Speaker 3: arguments against free speech.

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Speaker 2: And refuting them.

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Speaker 3: And they get into something that applies here, and that is,

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Speaker 3: if I have a belief and you say I don't

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Speaker 3: give them the power of censorship, because they'll always declare

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Speaker 3: anybody who disagrees with their views as you know, spewing

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Speaker 2: Or however you want to phrase it.

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Speaker 4: So let's start the show officially before we get in

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Speaker 4: trouble with the FCC. A couple of big newsish things

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Speaker 4: have happened today that aren't Charlie Kirk related that we

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Speaker 4: should talk about. But I'm Jack Armstrong, he's Joe getting

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Speaker 4: on this. It is Mondayectember fifteenth, the year twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 4: where I'm strong and getting and we approve of this program.

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Speaker 3: Let's begin then officially, according to FCC rules and regulations.

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Speaker 3: Here we go, at Mark.

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Speaker 5: Something Ray, I just I just thought that I would

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Speaker 5: have been back here sooner. What do you mean after

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Speaker 5: winning the Emmy, you know I wore to work more.

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Speaker 2: AT's all.

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Speaker 5: Don't think that if you win tonight your life's gonna change.

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Speaker 2: No, Brad, it is happing to change. Stop stop, come on,

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Speaker 5: I think the next time I'm on the Emmys It'll

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Speaker 5: be in Memoriam.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 3: No, And the rest of that was he said, Ray,

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Speaker 3: do you think I'll make any Memoriam Ray said, if

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Speaker 3: it's a slow year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good stuff.

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Speaker 3: That's back in the nineties when we just had regular comedy.

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Speaker 3: It didn't have to be at some political sides expense.

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Speaker 3: And many people watched it together on something called the

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Speaker 4: He reprised the Saturday famous Saturday Night Live thing where

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Speaker 3: He's uh, he had that audio if you want it.

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Speaker 4: He's the inventor of television, and he's doing this very

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Speaker 4: released that yet. But Congress passed the law. Well, I mean,

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Speaker 3: The President postponed the enforcement of the law, which is

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Speaker 3: Well, they accused us of uh molesting their tuna boat.

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Speaker 2: I saw that. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And Donald Trump also calling for companies to end the

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Speaker 3: It's the lead story with Katie Green, Katie what's happened.

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Speaker 6: And finally, from the Babylon Bee, entire American university system

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Speaker 4: Down with that whole thing they're looking at offering two

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Speaker 3: Quick note on CBS to quote unquote decide you want

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Speaker 4: It takes a lot to surprise me. This is shocking

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Speaker 4: Now, well huge. The number of people would be disturbing.

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Speaker 3: Most of us don't think this way. So let's ignore

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So, getting back to your previous point, do you

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Speaker 4: I think I think the it's just the fringe that

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Speaker 2: So those are both true.

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Speaker 3: you would have never had any idea if in I

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Speaker 3: don't know, pick a year. If in nineteen seventy five

445
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Speaker 3: six percent of people thought Gerald Ford should be dead, Yeah,

446
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Speaker 3: you would have had no idea, right right, boy.

447
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Speaker 2: I'm super intrigued by this. I don't disagree with you.

448
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Speaker 3: I'm just it's like I've come across a really nettlesome

449
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Speaker 3: math question and I'm trying to tease it out.

450
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Speaker 2: You've long advocated the idea that all.

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Speaker 3: It takes is a vocal, organized minority to carry out

452
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Speaker 3: a revolution.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't invent that. That's what people have figured out.

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Speaker 4: It takes about fifteen percent of a you know, really

455
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Speaker 4: energetic group of people to cause a revolution, because you

456
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Speaker 4: get enough people that kind of agree with them. Then

457
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Speaker 4: you got people who I don't agree with them, but

458
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Speaker 4: I'm kind of scared to stand in their way, and

459
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Speaker 4: you very quickly end up with over fifty percent.

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Speaker 3: So given that this, ohoh, here's the question, then at

461
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Speaker 3: this point, do we have fifteen percent of people who

462
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Speaker 3: are gleeful that Charlie Kirk was murdered?

463
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Speaker 2: Probably not, But what if it's.

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Speaker 4: Twelve percent, Well, I don't know if it has to

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Speaker 4: be about Charlie Kirk. I think we have more than

466
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Speaker 4: fifteen percent who think the other side is held on

467
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Speaker 4: killing us. On our side, I think we have more

468
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Speaker 4: than fifteen percent of people who think the other side

469
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Speaker 4: wants my side.

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Speaker 3: Dead or at least unemployed and humiliated and driven through

471
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Speaker 3: the streets like wild beasts.

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Speaker 2: That number is probably true.

473
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And if you have that group of people in

474
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Speaker 3: a we got to fight fire with fire stands, I

475
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Speaker 3: don't know how we get out of that.

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Speaker 2: Like you said, that's how you started. I don't know

477
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Speaker 2: how we get out of this.

478
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Speaker 3: Well, the problem is, I'm not sure pacifism or not

479
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Speaker 3: engaging those crazies leads us to.

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Speaker 2: A good place. Right wing talk show host calls for

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Speaker 2: civil war.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you know at the point Johnny ReBs shooting his

483
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Speaker 3: rifle at me, it was rifles then, right, yeah, well

484
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Speaker 3: I'm in it was longbows. Well, no, I was trying

485
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Speaker 3: to remember when the transition between smooth bore weapons and

486
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Speaker 3: rifles came along. It was the Civil War. That's one

487
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Speaker 3: of the sins. It was so deadly. They're still using

488
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Speaker 3: smooth bore weapon maneuvering tactics against rifles.

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Speaker 4: And I saw a YouTube video yesterday. It's amazing that

490
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Speaker 4: people take the time to do this sort of stuff.

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Speaker 4: Guns for the last I think it was four hundred

492
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Speaker 4: years and a guy had every kind of gun.

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Speaker 2: And then the advancement over four hundred years, three hundred years.

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Speaker 3: Or whatever it was starting with like the very beginning,

495
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Speaker 3: you had to put a bunch of powder down there,

496
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Speaker 3: and thing in there, and then.

497
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Speaker 2: A little ball and lighted on fire, all these different things.

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Speaker 3: That it showed you got to so there's a wat involved.

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Speaker 4: And then he would skip to the next advance and

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Speaker 4: everything like that was really really interesting.

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Speaker 3: I'll bet so you are at You seem to be

502
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Speaker 3: very troubled that the lunatic fringes are driving the conversation.

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Speaker 3: Am totally get that. So do you advocate ignoring them

504
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Speaker 3: or what? See, that's my problem is they are trying

505
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Speaker 3: aggressively to spread their ideology, and at the point that

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Speaker 3: it's fifteen percent of them, I mean, we saw it

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Speaker 3: in Blue States. In the world of education, people are

508
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Speaker 3: still bowing in, scraping before the idol of progressivism. They're

509
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Speaker 3: terrified to say, I think they're just two sexes and

510
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Speaker 3: you're stuck with it. They're terrified to say Black Lives

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Speaker 3: Matter is a Marxist organization. Of course Black Lives matter,

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Speaker 3: but the organization are Marxists.

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Speaker 4: I would like to believe that, if so, the revolution

514
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Speaker 4: has already been won in those places.

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Speaker 3: I would like to believe that each if each side

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Speaker 3: called out their own side, which we uh were talking

517
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Speaker 3: about on Friday or Thursday or whatever was the day

518
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Speaker 3: after the assassination, I'd like to believe that if both

519
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Speaker 3: sides called out their own side, we could tamp this down.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I'm wrong, maybe it's too late.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'd like to believe if Judy could find a

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Speaker 3: reasonably priced pony in time for Christmas, there would be

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Speaker 2: I can't believe you still want a pony so bad.

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Speaker 3: I really do. A beautiful little pony I can call

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Speaker 2: You can't. Just not.

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Speaker 4: So do you agree with this statement or not? From

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Speaker 4: Mark Alpern in his newsletter on Sunday this morning, with

554
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Speaker 4: significant time to reflect for the first time since the murder,

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Speaker 4: I'm now deeply deeply worried about the country.

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Speaker 2: Yes undred percent.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I was there like a few years ago.

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Speaker 3: But yes, deeply deeply worried. One hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: Is there any way out?

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Speaker 3: Text line four one five two nine five KFTC. If

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Speaker 3: there is there any way out, I don't know if

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Speaker 3: there is, especially with social media the current way that

563
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Speaker 3: we fund our politics.

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Speaker 2: Right there's a couple.

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Speaker 3: Of things involved that I think just yeah, fashion equals

566
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Speaker 3: dollars and passion is off in anger and hatred.

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Speaker 2: Yep, we got email on the way and a bunch

568
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Speaker 2: of other stuff. Stay here.

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Speaker 1: Strong.

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Speaker 2: Are you familiar with thereddit tread a? I Ah, I

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Speaker 2: am not. I don't think so, am I the ah? Yes?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got one of those stories for about me.

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Speaker 3: Am I am I an ah in this story, I

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Speaker 3: guess would be the story. So I'll get to that

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Speaker 3: maybe an hour or two. And speaking of our two,

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Speaker 3: we'll kick it off with a fascinating discussion of the

577
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Speaker 3: people getting canned from their jobs because they did a

578
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Speaker 3: touchdown dance over poor Charlie Kirk being slaughtered in cold blood?

579
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Speaker 2: Is that canceled culture from the right? Are we being hypocrites?

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Speaker 4: God, you're such a crazy person. If you're happy about

581
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Speaker 4: political violence from any side.

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Speaker 3: We will discuss. I can't understand that we will discuss meilbang.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, fah freedom loved what of the day?

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Speaker 2: Sorry?

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Speaker 3: I found this really interesting? Uh, Malcolm Nance, I didn't

586
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Speaker 3: have time to look up Katie.

587
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Speaker 2: Do you have a second figure out who this guy is?

588
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Speaker 2: He says.

589
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Speaker 3: The funny trick that Americans do is that they managed

590
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Speaker 3: to convince themselves that political violence in the United States

591
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Speaker 3: that any one of us in the counter terrorism world

592
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Speaker 3: would call terrorism anywhere else is just violence in the

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Speaker 3: United States.

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Speaker 2: You think we should be calling it terrorism.

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Speaker 3: Well, as you know, I think the term terrorism and

596
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Speaker 3: terrorist has been overused to the point of it's practically

597
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 3: it's like fascist. It doesn't mean anything anymore. But yeah, yeah,

598
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 3: political violence to achieve a particular end is terrorism. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Mail bag, which is going to factor into the discussion

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Speaker 3: next tun drop us a note mail bag at Armstrong

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Speaker 3: and Geddy dot com. Ryan from Houston writes Jack Joe

602
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Speaker 3: was the killer of Charlie Kirk, a white nationalist MAGA

603
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Speaker 3: grouper who felt that Charlie wasn't conservative enough. Well, if

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Speaker 3: your whole Twitter identity is you hate Maga, then there's

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Speaker 3: a ninety nine point nine percent chance you believe that

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Speaker 3: was the shooter from a good conservative home and radicalized

607
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Speaker 3: by Reddit college and had a relationship with transgender individual. Well,

608
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Speaker 3: if your Twitter profile leans conservative, there's a ninety nine

609
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Speaker 3: point nine percent chance you believe that the notion that

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Speaker 3: don't trust anything in the first twenty four hours of

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Speaker 3: breaking is out the window. When you find something that

612
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Speaker 3: appeals to your confirmation bias.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm going.

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Speaker 4: To stick with this just because it's the only thing

615
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Speaker 4: that gives me hope. The percentage of people who are

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Speaker 4: living their lives this way is small. I'm sticking with

617
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Speaker 4: that partly because I want it to be true.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just again ask.

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Speaker 3: Ask people forced to take humiliating anti racist training whether

620
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Speaker 3: that fringe group is you know, can be ignored or not.

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Speaker 3: I just think it's gone too far anyway. Let's see,

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Speaker 3: this was posted online by a number of folks. A

623
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Speaker 3: couple of folks sent it along. When George Floyd died,

624
00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 3: they burned down cities. When Charlie Kirk died, we pray

625
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Speaker 3: and host vigils. We are not the same.

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Speaker 2: Hmm.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of truth to that. Moving along, David

628
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 3: on the TMZ Stafford's laughing and cheering story. I was

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Speaker 3: going to give TMZ the benefit of the doubt until

630
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Speaker 3: I saw the car chase video. They announced during the

631
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Speaker 3: car chase that the Staffords were watching that Charlie Kirk

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Speaker 3: had died. On the broadcast they were watching, they were

633
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Speaker 3: definitely cheering his death. Oh, probably already have a bunch

634
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Speaker 3: of email to this fact, but wanted to be sure. Yeah,

635
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Speaker 3: we did actually get several of them. Well, you can't

636
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Speaker 3: you can't blame what's his name, the guy who runs TMZ.

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Speaker 2: Harvey Levin.

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Speaker 3: Is it for wanting to get the story out that

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Speaker 3: that's not what happened, because that's not a good look. No,

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Speaker 3: it's a terrible, terrible look.

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Speaker 4: But he's got a bunch of young people who mostly

642
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Speaker 4: follow entertainment news. Am I shocked that they cheered this? No,

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Speaker 4: not really, right then, TJ in the day Beautiful Redd

644
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Speaker 4: and Care California writes, if you.

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Speaker 3: Cheer political violence, you were a nut, or you've gone

646
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 3: so far over the line. Honestly, I don't care what

647
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Speaker 3: side your politics are. If you cheer political violence, you've

648
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 3: crossed a line. Yeah, you've seriously lost a chunk of

649
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Speaker 3: your soul, or you have no wisdom anyway, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Last Friday or whatever, you guys mentioned, Patrick Mahomes come

651
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Speaker 3: out said he would pay the living expensive of Charlie

652
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Speaker 3: Kirk's kids. I immediately knew it wasn't true, because by

653
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Speaker 3: that point I had already said seen the same thing

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Speaker 3: about Justin Jefferson and C. D. Lamb of the NFL.

655
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Speaker 3: I don't know those people, but I assume they exist.

656
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 3: They're big stars. Yeah, my wife actually sent me the

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Speaker 3: one about Cedde Lamb thinking it was real. I don't

658
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Speaker 3: know who makes these things up. I don't understand the

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Speaker 3: purpose other than to cause confusion. Social media, especially Twitter,

660
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Speaker 3: so good with breaking news, but it's getting so difficult

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Speaker 3: to tell fact from fiction. I saw Info on the

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Speaker 3: Kirk shooter wearing a Donald Trump shirt, which is AI

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Speaker 3: generated clips claiming the show the shooter debating Kirk to

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Speaker 3: the shooting, which is actually just a guy who looked

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Speaker 3: somewhat similar. People are getting easily tricked with the stuff

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Speaker 3: and don't know it before.

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Speaker 4: I swear that Patrick Mahomes thing was on a real

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Speaker 4: news thing because I don't just repeat right everything from everywhere,

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Speaker 4: But that doesn't mean it wasn't fake and somebody else

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Speaker 4: didn't get hooked.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, or about out of time. Interesting note here

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Speaker 3: from Andy saying I don't know what to tell polsters

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Speaker 3: when they ask are you against all political violence? Because

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Speaker 3: the purpose of the Second Amendment is if we are oppressed,

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Speaker 3: that we must end it by force. I think in

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Speaker 3: this moment, and he go ahead and say, you're against.

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Speaker 4: It seems like a good idea. We get a lot

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Speaker 4: more on this topic. It's a huge one. It might

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Speaker 4: be the topic for whether or not we stay together

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Speaker 4: as a country.

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Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty