1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: The pressure was on Las Crusis police to solve what 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 1: was called the worst killing in twenty years. 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 2: We never had a case where three people have been killed, 4 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 2: all in one home and all at one time. 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: For Prosecutor Amy Orlando, the unsolved case shattered this safe 6 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: and affluent community. 7 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 2: People were concerned and they were fearful. That was something 8 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 2: very unusual for our community. 9 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: But the suspect would turn the police's investigation inside out. 10 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 3: These guys think they're their gods was power. Well, I'm 11 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 3: not a god, but I have powers of a god, 12 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 3: and I'm going to show them what the powers are. 13 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: Today, we're back in the remote hills of Las Cruces, 14 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: New Mexico, for the conclusion of Murder in the Desert. 15 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 1: I'm Sloan Glass and this is American Homicide. The views 16 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: and opinions expressed are solely those of the individuals participating. 17 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: This podcast also contained subject matter which may not be 18 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: suitable for all audiences. Discretion is advised. 19 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 2: New Mexico is an odd state because if you go 20 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 2: up to northern New Mexico, you're going to just see 21 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 2: a lot more museums and a lot of art. And 22 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 2: then you get down south and We're still kind of 23 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:18,199 Speaker 2: slow moving here. 24 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: Los cruzz is where Ami Orlando started her nineteen year 25 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 1: career as a prosecutor. 26 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 2: We don't honk it people a lot when they're going 27 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 2: the wrong way, you're going too slow. I like to 28 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 2: think we're a little bit more friendly. We have a 29 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 2: lot of ranchers and farmers here, and then we have 30 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 2: I think five or six Starbucks, and so I think 31 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 2: that tells you kind of size of what we. 32 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: Are actually lost. Cruisez is a city of one hundred thousand, 33 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: but those who live there say it feels like a 34 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: small town. 35 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 2: I like that it feels safe and that we lock 36 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,559 Speaker 2: our doors, but you can still walk around at night. 37 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 2: You don't feel like you just have to rush to 38 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:59,639 Speaker 2: your car when you're leaving the mall. We have our crime, 39 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: but we have great law enforcement, and it just feels 40 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 2: like it's still safe. 41 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: That safe feeling was shattered in twenty ten following the 42 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,959 Speaker 1: triple murder of Jill and Helga Delile and Peter wife. 43 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 2: This was the biggest homicide that we had had since 44 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 2: the eighties, and trust me, as the prosecutor leading kind 45 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 2: of the legal part of it and working with law enforcement, 46 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 2: we all foult that stress because we did not want 47 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 2: to be, you know, the group that went down to 48 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 2: not solve a triple homicide, which was our biggest case 49 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 2: of that nature in Las Cruses. 50 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: As the months passed, it appeared from the outside that 51 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: the investigation had stalled, but the reality was very different. 52 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 2: We narrowed in on kind of one suspect and his 53 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 2: name was Gino Ferry. 54 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: Gino Ferry was a contractor who did some business with 55 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 1: the victims, but the deal went south after Gino's tap 56 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: climbed above one million dollars. Jill sued him, but Gino 57 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: filed for bankruptcy. A lengthy court battle ensued the day 58 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: before the conclusion of that trial. Jill, his wife Helga, 59 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: and his business partner Peter whythe were murdered. 60 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 2: Gino claims he had an alibi and had nothing to 61 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 2: do with it, and so we knew we had to 62 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 2: prove it. 63 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: By the spring of twenty eleven, nearly a year after 64 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:26,959 Speaker 1: the murders, a witness named Ricky Huckabee began cooperating with investigators. 65 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: Ricky was a convicted felon who served ten years in 66 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: prison and later did some odd jobs with Gino including 67 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: driving Gino to the Delio's house on the day of 68 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: the murders. 69 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 2: He tells us the events that happened up to the 70 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 2: killing of the victims. 71 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: There was no question Ricky was afraid of Gino, so 72 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: the police offer to protect him. In return, Ricky would 73 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: record his conversations with Gino. But getting Gino to talk 74 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: freely about murdering three people wasn't easy. 75 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 2: So Miss Tugby I think was getting a little frustrated 76 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 2: with Gino because he always talking circles. He knew what 77 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 2: to say without saying anything we tell him. You just 78 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 2: got to try and get him to talk about it. 79 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 2: But you can't put words in his mouth. But you 80 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 2: got to get him to talk about it. 81 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: One afternoon, Ricky found a way. 82 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 2: There's one point in the investigation where he said to Gino, well, 83 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 2: would you really do it again? Would you do anything different? 84 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 2: And Gino said to him, yes, I would do it again. 85 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: As open and shot of a confession as that seems, 86 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: it still wasn't enough for the DA. They were still 87 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: building their case. That became a familiar refrain to Detective 88 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: Robin Glickovic. 89 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 4: We were frustrated. It was already almost a year, we're 90 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,559 Speaker 4: still gathering evidence. We want to put this guy away. 91 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 4: We know for a fact that he killed these people, 92 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 4: but yet he's still walking the streets, our streets and 93 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 4: our community where our families live, and he's dangerous and 94 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 4: to the point where we as detectives have to take 95 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 4: different routes home because he knows where we live. 96 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 1: Investigators started looking over their shoulders because Gino seemed to 97 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: be watching them. 98 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 4: He was a type of individual that thought he was 99 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 4: smarter on everybody and he could get away with anything 100 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 4: that he did, and we needed to keep an eye 101 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 4: on him to prevent other crimes from happening, and had 102 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 4: to prevent him from leaving town. Mexico's right there, and 103 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 4: he had the money to leave. 104 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: At one point, Detective's place what's called a bird dog 105 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 1: or a GPS tracker on Gino's vehicle. That same day, 106 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 1: something unsettling happened. 107 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 4: We went back to the Sheriff's department, did a briefing. 108 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 4: Then Gino Ferry was parked across the street and just 109 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 4: sitting there. It was almost like he was conducting his 110 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 4: own surveillance on us, and he had the mentality of 111 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 4: like he was like the Godfather. 112 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 1: You know, I know this sounds more and more like 113 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: a movie plot, but it wasn't. These were real cops 114 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: in New Mexico trying to put this guy away, all 115 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: while looking over their shoulders and worrying about their loved 116 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: one safety. But if they arrested Geno now without a 117 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 1: formal charge, there would be nothing keeping him in police custody. 118 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 4: And from that point we almost took a different path 119 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 4: on getting Geno. 120 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 1: Ferry authorities went after Gino the same way law enforcement 121 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: took down old school gangsters like al Capone. 122 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 4: Okay, if we can't get him on the homicide right now, 123 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 4: let's get him on a white collar crime. 124 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: Detectives knew that Gino had gone through bankruptcy proceedings and 125 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 1: in digging deeper, he had just gotten divorced. Police took 126 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: that information and connected it to a tip that Ricky 127 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 1: Huckabee provided. He said that Gino had a bunch of 128 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 1: storage units where he hit property and assets from the courts, 129 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: which is against the law. 130 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 4: He had cars at one point, he had preschool stuff 131 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 4: like chairs and desks and stuff. 132 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: But more than just preschool furniture turned up. 133 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 4: We found over one hundred guns in multiple large safes 134 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 4: that belonged to Geno. 135 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: The detectives must have been thrilled. This was the breakthrough 136 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: they were looking for. But none of the guns matched 137 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: up with the bullets found at the crime scene. But 138 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: then something odd happened. When detectives opened the door to 139 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: another of the storage units. They were speechless. 140 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 4: We found over five hundred animals like exotic animals like lions, tigers, 141 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 4: full size animals, bears, deer, elk, rhinos. 142 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: Just to be clear, these animals weren't alive. They were 143 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: stuffed and mounted. Not to mention some of them were 144 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: endangered species. 145 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 4: He claimed he was going to use the animals for 146 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 4: a museum here in Las Crusis. In my career, I've 147 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 4: never seen anything like it. 148 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: These hundreds of stuffed, life size animals that Gino had 149 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: hidden were valued at and get this, one point two 150 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: five million dollars, and hiding those assets from the courts 151 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: is a crime known as possession of encumbered property. 152 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 4: We can get this guy, we can get him off 153 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 4: the streets. So using the white collar crime to get 154 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 4: him off the streets was the way we needed to go, 155 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 4: so we could actually take our time on the homicide 156 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 4: and get everything that we needed to make sure it 157 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 4: was a solid case so he would not get out. 158 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 1: On April eighth, twenty twelve, police went to the DA 159 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 1: to state their case. They had Geno's tape confession to 160 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: Ricky Huckabee. They also had him on encumbered property. Plus 161 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: there was the growing fear that Gino was stalking them 162 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 1: and could retaliate. 163 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 4: He's a scary guy, and we don't want that kind 164 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 4: of person in our community. 165 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: This time, the district attorney had a change of heart. 166 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 4: He gave me the green light. You have enough to 167 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 4: make an arrest on this guy. 168 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: Just a couple of days, shy of the one year 169 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: mark of the murders, detectives finally got a warrant for 170 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: Geno Faery's arrest. 171 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 4: I was super excited, super nervous, super anxious, and then 172 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 4: I get a phone call saying we're tracking him. He's 173 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 4: a leaving town. 174 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: The GPS tracker on Gino's vehicle showed Gino heading south 175 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: for the border. 176 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 5: We thought that somehow he had found out that we 177 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 5: were about to charge him, and we think he's fleeing. 178 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: Sergeant Joe Renaut knew Gino had a second home in Mexico. 179 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 5: And so we did not want him to hide down 180 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 5: there because he had the funds. We believed he had 181 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 5: money stashed and other items possibly that he could turn 182 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 5: over for money. 183 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: Aside from a lengthy extradition process, the authorities had other fears. 184 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 5: You had tons of guns, long range rifles and stuff 185 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 5: like that. 186 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: And the race to catch Geno Faery on. 187 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 4: That day was very intense. 188 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: I ten is the highway from Las cruzz that leads 189 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: to Mexico. That afternoon, it quickly filled with squad cars 190 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: heading south. 191 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 4: We have other units, other detectives going. Everybody is just 192 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 4: anxious about getting this guy. 193 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: Authorities believe they could catch Gino just north of the 194 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: border in El Paso, which is about forty five miles away. 195 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 4: We tracked them through GPS on a laptop. 196 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: The birddog they placed on Gino's vehicle allowed them to 197 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 1: follow his every move. 198 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 4: It's about a forty five minute drive depending on traffic, 199 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 4: and doing over one hundred miles an hour. It took 200 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 4: us about twenty minutes. 201 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 1: Finally, the string of cop cars caught up with Gino's 202 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: vehicle in El Paso. That's where they were joined by 203 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: El Paso police and the swat team. 204 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 4: We get to Al Paso. We're in communication with El 205 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 4: Paso Police Department. He's here at this location. He's at 206 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:03,119 Speaker 4: this intersection. 207 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: Investigators watched as Gino pulled into a parking lot in 208 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: a secluded area and we. 209 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 4: Call him and like move now, move now, and so 210 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 4: Apasto PDI. We all move in on him as he's 211 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 4: getting out of the vehicle and we're able to get 212 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 4: him right there at the vehicle. 213 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: Police arrested Geno Faerry without incident and charged him with 214 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: concealing and encumbered property. 215 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 4: They take him to Al Paso Sheriff's department and we 216 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 4: go up there to see if he will give us 217 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 4: a statement, and of course he said he didn't want. 218 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 2: To talk to us. 219 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: Even with Geno in custody, the police had work to do. 220 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 4: It's not over. We still needed the murder weapon. And 221 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 4: once we put him in jail, Ricky Huckaby was just like, okay, 222 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 4: let's talk. 223 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: Did Ricky Huckaby, the man who told police he drove 224 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: Geno Ferry to the Delios home the day they were murdered, 225 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: no more than he was letting on And if he did, 226 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 1: what was he holding back detectives were to find out. 227 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: Police charged Geno Faerry with concealing and comfort property and 228 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: they believed he was also responsible for the murders of 229 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: Jill and Helga Delia and Peter Wife. For Sergeant Renault 230 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: and his team to charge Geno for those crimes, they 231 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 1: needed to find the murder weapon. 232 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 5: The crime lab calls us, and they did, in fact 233 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 5: confirm that all three were killed with a nine milimeter handgun, 234 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 5: which was an oozy type weapon which leaves very distinctive marks. 235 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 5: We eventually discovered that Gino owned a weapon like this. 236 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: That information came courtesy of their informant, Ricky Huckabee. With 237 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: Gino now behind bars, Ricky seemed more at ease and 238 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: revealed some additional information about what happened after the murders 239 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 1: when Gino went to a public bathroom at a park 240 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 1: to change his clothes. 241 00:12:56,480 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 5: Ricky remembered that when Gino had arrived back at the 242 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 5: park where they had planned to meet, Gino had gone 243 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 5: into the portable outdoor bathroom latrine and he walked in 244 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 5: with a buffel bag, and he walked out without the bag, 245 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 5: and as soon as he got back in the car, 246 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 5: he looked at Ricky and said, man, I think I 247 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 5: just woke up. And as time went on, and as 248 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 5: we started to work together, he started to realize, you know, 249 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 5: I think maybe the gun's in there. 250 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: So if Gino did dispose of his murder weapon in 251 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: that park outhouse, the chances of finding a gun in 252 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: an outhouse toilet a year later we're slim to night. 253 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: But for Sergeant Renault, it was worth a look. 254 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 5: And I said, shine a light down that dang toilet, 255 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 5: please and tell me what you see. He calls me back, 256 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 5: He says, I see a lot of crap. And I said, well, 257 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 5: what else do you see? He says, I see a gun. 258 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 5: It looks like an oozy. It's literally half a mile 259 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 5: from our department. I hauled by there and I looked 260 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 5: in the toilet. Sure enough, there it was just laying there, 261 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 5: straight down. 262 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: On the bottom of the outhouse toilet sat the murder weapon. 263 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 5: This gun's been sitting in this toilet for a year. 264 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 5: It was rusty, it was it had stuff all over it. 265 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: So who was going to fish the gun out of 266 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: that toilet? 267 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 5: I got the honors of dropping a magnet down and 268 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 5: getting it. Because nobody wanted to go in there and 269 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 5: the magnet was able to pick it up and we 270 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 5: pulled it up and that was the most disgusting piece 271 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 5: of evidence I have ever recovered in my career. And 272 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 5: we put it in a box. I had to let 273 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 5: it air dry, and from there it went to the 274 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 5: crime lab. I thought there was no way this gun 275 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 5: is going to fire again. The lab did what they 276 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 5: do and they called us two weeks later and said 277 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 5: it's a match. That was just incredible. 278 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: Twelve days after being arrested in Alpaso, and just a 279 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: year after the Tripple homicide, authorities were finally able to 280 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: charge Geno Ferry with three counts of first degree murder, 281 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: we held. 282 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 5: A news conference and they wanted, you know, all the 283 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 5: investigators up there behind me. They asked me, were you 284 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 5: afraid of Gino? And I said, yeah, we all were. 285 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: You Rarely hear cops get emotional, but talking about the 286 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: threat that you know was to the public and to 287 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: law enforcement struck a nerve for Sergeant Renault. 288 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 6: We knew what he was capable of, and we knew 289 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 6: that you could get within one hundred yards of every 290 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 6: entrance at our Sheriff's department, and he had guns and 291 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 6: we believed he still had guns that were capable of 292 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 6: hitting their mark, and he was very familiar with all 293 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 6: types of weapons, and it was just something that was 294 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 6: within his mentality pull off. 295 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: That afternoon, Sergeant Renaud proudly stood with his team of 296 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: investigators to announce Gino's arrest. 297 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 7: Mister Fetti was the initial person of interest based on 298 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 7: the information that we initially got that he was a 299 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 7: defendant in civil litigation filed by Jial Delile against him, 300 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 7: and then when the Deliles did not show up for 301 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 7: the final court hearing on that the day their bodies 302 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 7: were discovered, that was the first place we went. 303 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: Prosecutor Amy Orlando also spoke at that press conference and 304 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: shared what Gino told Ricky Huckabee right after the murders. 305 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 2: The defendant made the remark that what he did at 306 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 2: the Deliles home it felt good to him. 307 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: In May twenty thirteen, two years after his arrest, Gino's 308 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: case finally went to trial. Just as it was about 309 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: to begin, more threats came from Gino. 310 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 2: One of the good things that is a law enforcement 311 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 2: tools were able to listen in on phone calls that 312 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 2: happened at the gym. Well, he started to make threats 313 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 2: saying he was going to take somebody out during the trial. 314 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 2: He was going to do it in front of the jury. 315 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 2: It was going to be on camera. 316 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 3: I will get my vengeance when I get out of here. 317 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 3: That's all that counts. Okay, they've kicked me in the 318 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 3: time to do some kicking myself. This is both between 319 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 3: these cops that's idiot and all these other guys that 320 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 3: are coming after me. These guys think they're gods with 321 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 3: a power. Well, I'm not a god, but I have 322 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 3: powers of a god, and I'm going to show them 323 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 3: what the powers are. 324 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 2: And so we had to have the bomb dogs come. 325 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 2: We had snipers on the roof every day and lunch break, 326 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 2: any break, they combed the courthouse with the dogs. There 327 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 2: was extra security in the courtroom. In fact, we were 328 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 2: told by the judge if we wanted to that as 329 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 2: the attorneys, we all had the right to wear like 330 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 2: a bulletproof vest under our clothes. 331 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 3: They locked me up to the should and they don't 332 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 3: expect me to have feelings. They don't expect me to 333 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 3: be angry for something I haven't done. Unto them all, 334 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 3: let us have a war. When I get out of here. 335 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 3: I don't believe in the government, the county, city, state, 336 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 3: federal anything, this government themselves. 337 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 2: Everyone was just on heightened alert. 338 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: Were Gino's threats real or was it just another way 339 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 1: to intimidate his latest foe. 340 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 2: I mean, he had killed three people, so no doubt 341 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 2: he's evil and he's dangerous. But you just can't let 342 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 2: that get to you, or you'd be preoccupied with it. 343 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 1: Even with the extra security. Came another threat. 344 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 5: We uncovered a plot to kill Ricky Hukaby, a legitimate 345 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 5: plot with a known cartel. 346 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:40,719 Speaker 1: Ricky Huckabee was the prosecution star witness and this plot 347 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: to assassinate him led Sergeant Renaud to personally escort him 348 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 1: in and out of the courthouse. 349 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 5: And I haven't seen that done that much security for 350 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 5: a case. 351 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: For his protection, Ricky was even moved down to the state, 352 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 1: But Gino's lawyer, Gary Mitchell, believed these threats were all 353 00:18:57,920 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: taken out of context. 354 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 8: They tried to exploit everything they could about Gino's profile. 355 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 8: The way he talks and his A type personality profiles 356 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 8: him as somebody who, well, this is a gangster kind 357 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 8: of guy that will do whatever to get whatever, and 358 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 8: that profiles him it's wrong to profile him that way. 359 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 8: For Gino, it was sort of funny. I mean, he 360 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 8: just said, okay, why not. Surprise was a popular show. 361 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 8: He can act like he's from New Jersey, and he 362 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 8: can act like a tough guy. 363 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 9: That's the way people saw him. He could fit in 364 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 9: and have fun with it. 365 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 1: Tough guy. Gino fairy gritted his teeth as Ricky walked 366 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: to the witness stand wearing a bulletproof vest. The judge 367 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: even ordered photographers not to take pictures of Ricky's face 368 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: in order to protect him. On the witness stand, Ricky, 369 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 1: how could be, testified that Gino confessed to him. According 370 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: to Ricky, Gino used to key to get inside the 371 00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: Delia's house and woar a mask and Rubbert gloves. When 372 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: Jill Delile first arrived, Gino shot him repeatedly. A short 373 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:10,239 Speaker 1: time later, Peter wife unexpectedly showed up. Gino grabbed him 374 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: by the back of the head, and then forced him 375 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: into a bathroom shower, where he shot him. When Helga arrived, 376 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: Gino shot her once in the back of the neck. 377 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: Ricky testified that he kept quiet because Gino threatened him, 378 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: and that's why he originally didn't want to cooperate with investigators. 379 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: It was damning testimony against Gino, although his lawyer thought otherwise. 380 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 1: Here's Gary Mitchell again. 381 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 8: I think this idea that Rick Hockaby says it Gino 382 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 8: confessed to him is a bunch of nonsense. I don't 383 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 8: think Geno confessed to him. It's not even his nature 384 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 8: to go confess to somebody like that. I think that's 385 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 8: just Rick Hocklebee, as I said to the jury, trying 386 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 8: to protect himself, point a finger at Gino and help 387 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 8: the state out, and realizing, well, the state now has 388 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 8: all the power. My friend, whom I really liked because 389 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 8: he took care of me and helped me out in 390 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 8: this sort of thing, no longer has the power in 391 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 8: the state has the power. 392 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 9: So I'm going to go with the state. 393 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 1: Along with calling Ricky Huckaby a liar, Gino's attorney argued 394 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 1: that Gino wasn't the killer because he couldn't be in 395 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: two places at once. 396 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 9: We had an alibi. 397 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 8: Depending on the time you're talking about, he was either 398 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 8: eating a meal or he was lisiting with a friend 399 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 8: that he had of here. 400 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 1: When clients face murder charges, most lawyers try to keep 401 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: them off the witness stand, But when you have an 402 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 1: ego as big as Gino's, there was no keeping him 403 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: from testifying. Gino emphatically denied confessing to Ricky Huckaby. He 404 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: testified that during that four thirty to six thirty PM 405 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: window when the murders happened, he was at a friend's 406 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: house and then grabbed a hot astronomy sandwich from a deli. 407 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: He even had a receipt timestamped six h nine PM 408 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: that backed up his story. 409 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 8: Our sandwich receipts showed that it was impossible for him 410 00:21:59,400 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 8: to have. 411 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: Done this, but prosecutor said not so fast. The owner 412 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 1: of that deli where Gino was said to be at 413 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: six oh nine pm testified that the clocks on his 414 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 1: cash register were wrong. They were an hour behind because 415 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: they hadn't been adjusted for daylight savings time that would 416 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 1: put Gino at the deli at seven oh nine pm. 417 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: A deli employee even testified that Gino left the deli 418 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 1: around seven forty five pm. 419 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 8: It was a neat argument as the state made, which 420 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 8: made our defense a lot weaker because they threw out 421 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 8: this suggestion to the Jerry that we didn't have a 422 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 8: correct time, that we were an hour earlier, an hour late. 423 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: And remember how Gino said he was with a friend 424 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 1: at the time of the murders. Well, Gino's friend testified 425 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 1: that Gino called him on his way over sometime around 426 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: five pm, but Gino's phone records showed no such phone call. 427 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,719 Speaker 1: That visit with his friend was something new to prosecutor 428 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 1: in you Orlando. She asked Gino why he failed to 429 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: mention his visit when he first talked with investigators. Gino 430 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: muttered that he simply forgot. The judge had to tell 431 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: the usually brash and boysters Geno to speak up because 432 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: he was speaking so quietly. 433 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 2: He turned his back to me, to the point that 434 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 2: the judge had to call his defense counsel up to say, 435 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,199 Speaker 2: that's not really effective. The jury isn't going to like that. 436 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 2: And his defense attorney was like, I can't control him. 437 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 2: The judge had to order him to turn around. 438 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 1: Gino later admitted to lying under oath during previous hearings 439 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: for divorce and bankruptcy. He proudly said, I'll lie to 440 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 1: protect what's not right. 441 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 2: I knew that I was getting under his skin, which 442 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 2: I mean just affirms that one that I'm right, meaning 443 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,919 Speaker 2: that we had the right person, and that you have 444 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 2: no doubt, and the fact that he was trying to 445 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,199 Speaker 2: control even that situation and I wasn't going to let 446 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 2: him control it. 447 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: From day one, prosecutors focused on Gino Faery. This was 448 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 1: something that his defense attorney pointed out to the jury. 449 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 8: There could have been any number of people, and I 450 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,479 Speaker 8: wanted the jury to take a good hard look at 451 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 8: that and say, listen, I mean, just because the district 452 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 8: attorney selects this one person doesn't necessarily mean these others 453 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 8: should be off the hook. And we in fact argued 454 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 8: during the case that there were other people that were 455 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 8: around that could easily have done this. 456 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 1: Ju Julia was not only a businessman but also an inventor. 457 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: At the time of his death, he was negotiating the 458 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: sale of another invention, something said to extend gas mileage 459 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: by thirty percent. The proceeds of the sale would have 460 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,199 Speaker 1: gone to charity, but just before the sale, two of 461 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 1: his partners involved in the invention mysteriously died. One was 462 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 1: poisoned and the other fell off a ladder while repairing 463 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 1: his roof. 464 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 8: There were a lot of people that could have done this. 465 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 8: Other than Geno. Here's the bottom line. You screw with 466 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 8: people from a business sense to the point that you've 467 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 8: bankrupt him, to the point that you take everything away 468 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 8: from them, and you think, in this day and age, people, 469 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 8: I AM going to get upset over that kind of stuff. 470 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 8: You know, those chickens come home the roost after a while. 471 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 1: Gino's defense team wanted the jury to know that someone 472 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 1: else had a motive. 473 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 8: At the end of the day, it was a tough, 474 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 8: hard nosed tried case in which the lawyers brought out 475 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 8: everything that they could and jurors are left with jumping 476 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 8: to one conclusion or the other. 477 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 2: The worst part for a prosecutor is when the jury 478 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 2: leaves the courtroom to deliberate because there's absolutely nothing else 479 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 2: we can do. 480 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 1: Just before noon that day, the jury began deliberations and 481 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 1: lawyers prepared for a long night of waiting. 482 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 2: It was nerve wracking because you never know what a 483 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 2: jury's going to believe. 484 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: The trial of legendary nineteenth century outlaw Billy the Kid 485 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 1: happened just south of where Gino Ferry now awaited his fate. 486 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: He heard six days worth of testimony and saw nearly 487 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,479 Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty pieces of evidence under a heavy 488 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: blanket of security. Thanks to a number of threats, I. 489 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 5: Was authorized to do whatever it took to secure that courthouse. 490 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: Sergeant Joe Renault not only investigated the case, but oversaw 491 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 1: courtroom security. 492 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 5: We had undercover agents inside the courtroom, undercover agents outside 493 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 5: the courtroom, cameras rolling, We had snipers. We had Ricky 494 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 5: Huckaby in a bulletproof vest, and we didn't take any chances. 495 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: Ricky Huckabee was the prosecution's key witness, but there were 496 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 1: fears he wouldn't make it into the courthouse alive. 497 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 5: We had verified information of a planned assassination attempt at 498 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 5: Ricky Huckabee. 499 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,959 Speaker 1: Although there were no incidents during the trial, additional law 500 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: enforcement joined to the already packed courtroom once the jury 501 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: returned with a verdict, and although the lawyers were expecting 502 00:26:56,359 --> 00:27:00,679 Speaker 1: a long wait, the jury returned with their answer relative quickly. 503 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 2: Normally, when it's a long trial, they deliberate for a 504 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 2: long period of time. 505 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: The fact that they deliberated for just two and a 506 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: half hours stuck out to Prosecutor Amy Orlando. 507 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 2: So when they came back quickly, it's always an uneasy 508 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 2: feeling it's obviously they're a good sign or bad. 509 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 1: Defense attorney Gary Mitchell read a little deeper into the 510 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: jury short deliberation. 511 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 9: It wasn't days later that it came in. 512 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,360 Speaker 8: It was hours, and I told Gina, you know, it's 513 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 8: not long enough to have an acquittal, so prepare yourself. 514 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: On the three counts of first supree murder, the jury 515 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: found Geno Fairy guilty. From the back of the courthouse 516 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 1: came a scream. It was Gino's mother. An undercover agent 517 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,679 Speaker 1: stood behind her just in case she started any trouble, 518 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 1: but nothing happened. 519 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 2: It was a relief because it had taken us two 520 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 2: three years to get to trial and finally to be 521 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 2: able to give the victims some closure, even though they're deceased, 522 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 2: but to know who killed them, and then to give 523 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 2: the survivors around them and our community that Gino was 524 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 2: never going to be on the street again. 525 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: The judge sentence Gino Ferry to three life sentences. He 526 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: was fifty years old at the time of the sentencing 527 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: and won't be eligible for parole for ninety years. Gino 528 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 1: didn't utter a word. He just stood there emotionless while 529 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: prosecutors embraced one another and celebrated their victory. 530 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,880 Speaker 2: We knew that we had the right person in jail 531 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:33,400 Speaker 2: and charged with the crimes. 532 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 5: There's TV shows out there that's say, if a murders 533 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 5: not solid in forty eight hours, most likely it will 534 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 5: never be solved. So when this verdict was read on Geno, 535 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 5: that's blown away. 536 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: For Sergeant Renaud, the long, complicated and dangerous case was 537 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: finally over, and it featured many firsts. 538 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 5: I would tell these guys in the investigative team, watch 539 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 5: your back, don't take the same route home every time, 540 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 5: don't eat at the same restaurants every day. Tell your 541 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 5: girlfriends to be careful. First time I've ever had to 542 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 5: do that in my career. With all the homicides I worked, 543 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 5: all the officer involved shootings I've worked, and never in 544 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 5: my wildest dreams what I have to tell cops to 545 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 5: be super extra careful and protect their families. Because Gina 546 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 5: was just a hot head. He was a hothead, and 547 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 5: if you said the wrong thing, it pressed a button 548 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 5: and the fuse was lit. 549 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: Gina's defense attorney believed the jurors had made up their 550 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: minds long before his closing arguments. 551 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 8: They jumped pretty quick to that one conclusion because primarily 552 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 8: that gun business. 553 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 9: And here's the big thing that you overset it, don't. 554 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 8: Trial the number of homicides involved. I mean, excuse me, 555 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 8: this was this was not a single homicide. This looked 556 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 8: like somebody had gotten angry about something. So it all 557 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 8: sort of fit in to point the finger at Gino. 558 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: He believes that Ricky Huckabee was responsible for the triple murders. 559 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 8: Rick Huckabye walked away from this case. Interesting, isn't it 560 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 8: that he walks away? You know, I think a lot 561 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 8: more of the seven is pointing toward Rick huckaby than 562 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 8: my client. But I'm not the prosecuting attorney and I'm 563 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 8: not the investigating police departments. 564 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: Ricky Huckabee drove Gino to the Delio's house and even 565 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: called the house well, Gino was there, killing Jill Helga 566 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: and Peter. Ricky was never charged, but Sergeant Renault understands 567 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: why people believe he could have been connected to the murders. 568 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 5: Could he have been more knowledgeable than what he let on? 569 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 9: Sure? 570 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 5: You know, they could have hashed us out and said 571 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 5: I'm going to go over there and I'm going to 572 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 5: kill these people. And this is our plan, but we 573 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 5: never got any evidence to support that. I honestly truly 574 00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 5: believe Ricky Huckabye is a decent person and did the 575 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 5: right thing and took great courage to do what he did. 576 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 5: Huge courage. Ricky Huckabee wherever he is now, and he's 577 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 5: still in danger. He is absolutely still in danger. I 578 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 5: don't know where he's at. I wish him well. 579 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: New Mexico state law automatically triggers an appeal for anyone 580 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: sentenced to life in prison. In twenty fifteen, the New 581 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: Mexico Supreme Court upheld Gino's conviction. He will be eligible 582 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: for parole when he is one hundred and forty two 583 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: years old. With Gino now behind bars for life, the 584 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: city of Las Cruces slowly returned to being that safe, small, 585 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: tight knit city, sometimes too small for Sergeant Renault. 586 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 5: And how small of a world it is that we 587 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 5: hear My daughter was playing soccer for a local high 588 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 5: school and an incoming freshman stood up and said, my 589 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 5: dad is in prison for killing people, and happened to 590 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 5: be Gino's daughter. And you know, that's how small a 591 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 5: town this is. Gino has a son and a daughter 592 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 5: and they've turned out to be great. 593 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 1: People, but Gino Fairy would never be done. In twenty eighteen, 594 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: Gino filed a civil lawsuit against the New Mexico Department 595 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: of Corrections. He alleged that his constitutional rights were violated 596 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 1: following what's known as a facility shakedown. That's when prisoners 597 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 1: place their belongings in a bin and items that don't 598 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 1: fit in that bin are sent to the prisoners home. 599 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 1: In his one hundred and thirty three page complaint, he 600 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: voiced his anger that some clothing and four DOUAA batteries 601 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: were taken from him. He demanded the prison provide him 602 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: with a desk and called out one of the guards 603 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: for being a quote narcissist. In twenty twenty, I judge 604 00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 1: dismissed his suit. Today, Gino remains in a medium security 605 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: prison in New Mexico. 606 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 10: We got the son of a bitch. That's the only 607 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 10: thing that mattered to me. 608 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: For Jill's friend and neighbor, Bob Senecal, he still holds 609 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:11,959 Speaker 1: onto his anchor. 610 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 10: I know they don't have the death penalty in the state, 611 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 10: but he's gone for the rest of his natural life, 612 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 10: and I'm he deserves it, and I for one hope 613 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 10: he rots in hell. 614 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: Back in twenty eleven, nearly a year after the triple murders, 615 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: Bob wrote a letter to the editor that was critical 616 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 1: of law enforcement's handling of the case. 617 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 10: A week later, they arrested Geno. So I had it 618 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 10: write up make Kulpa saying I'm glad you guys did 619 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 10: your job, and I'm sorry I tried to rat you out. 620 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: In the end, Bob believes it all boils down to 621 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 1: one thing. 622 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 10: There are a lot of good people in this world, 623 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 10: and there are some bad people in this world, and 624 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 10: as long as the good people try to keep the 625 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 10: bad people under control, we're going. 626 00:33:59,200 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 9: To be okay. 627 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: During those months following the murders, an outlaw named Gino 628 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: Faery continued to walk the streets of Las Crusees. It 629 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 1: was something that scared Ricky Huckabee and even law enforcement, 630 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 1: but for Bob Senecal, he actually hoped he would run 631 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:16,240 Speaker 1: into Gino. 632 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 10: I kept my twelve gauge under my bed because I 633 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 10: was just praying he'd come and talk to me. 634 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,760 Speaker 1: Next time. On American Homicide, a beaten and bruised woman 635 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 1: escapes her captor after a horrific ordeal As more details emerged, 636 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: what police uncover would be much bigger than they ever imagined. 637 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: I'm Sloan Glass. We'll make our final trip to New 638 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 1: Mexico and head to Elephant Butte. 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