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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Boys. Let's go. Are

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Speaker 1: you ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for

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Speaker 1: a break? Absolutely? Ready for a break? Yeah, and so

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Speaker 1: much for that. It's time for The Break on Dallas

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Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, am Bar Garcia,

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Speaker 1: and Derek Eagleton. It is Wednesday, March second, twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 1: Season seventeen, episode number one oh six. Welcome to the

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Speaker 1: latest edition of The Break. We are alive from this

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Speaker 1: s WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star, joined by Nick Eatman.

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Speaker 1: We've got Amber Garcia. Dave is not with us today.

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Speaker 1: He is out in Indianapolis covering the combine. He's going

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Speaker 1: to join us here in a moment, catch us up

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Speaker 1: on all the things that are happening out there, the

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Speaker 1: And just if you guys have any questions for him,

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Speaker 1: be good. We got to start the show. What, oh,

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Speaker 1: We wishould go very happy birthday to my dude. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: Happy birthday. Okay, man, pretty old, you're not old. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's all about to say story. Sure, it tells the story.

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Speaker 1: So this seems old, but go ahead. Yeah. When I

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, thank awesome, because do y'all know

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Speaker 1: my hand. They're like, it's Texas's birthday. It's Texas Independence

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Speaker 1: probably saw it somewhere. Yeah, I put a hundred points

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Speaker 1: think I've looked it up. No, but happy birthday too.

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Speaker 1: be a little different if you're in health you're here,

425
00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,840
Speaker 1: but like, of course be better for us. We have

426
00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,159
Speaker 1: more resources as well. That's that's kind of like what

427
00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,120
Speaker 1: we do. And we have to do training camp here

428
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,600
Speaker 1: in the past, like it's like it's harder because you know,

429
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,840
Speaker 1: when we're at training camp California. You're at training camp

430
00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:22,360
Speaker 1: in California, like husband, wife can't say, hey, I need

431
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 1: you to come home and help out with this. You

432
00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,800
Speaker 1: can't come home. But when you're here in Dallas, it's like, hey,

433
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 1: when we go over there, it's like you're in a

434
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,800
Speaker 1: different space, but you feel like family in a way,

435
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,280
Speaker 1: like we know each other, we talk around each other,

436
00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,600
Speaker 1: and you feel closer. Yeah, when training camp, for example,

437
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 1: you're seeing training camp and is an example. We go

438
00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:48,040
Speaker 1: come over here, then we have restrictions and there's more limitations,

439
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:52,320
Speaker 1: and it's just the disconnect is creative where now we're

440
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,560
Speaker 1: just like everybody else in the media. Yeah, exactly, just

441
00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,760
Speaker 1: feels like working late, you know, basically a training training

442
00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,480
Speaker 1: camp here. You know. All right, let's jump in. I

443
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 1: want to talk about Stephen Jones and then some of

444
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 1: the comments that he made earlier this week and get

445
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,679
Speaker 1: you guys' opinions. He was talking about Amari Cooper and

446
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,680
Speaker 1: I think just it was also kind of about DeMarcus,

447
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 1: but I think the question was specific to Himri and

448
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,800
Speaker 1: his response was it's too early for me to address

449
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,120
Speaker 1: that I don't want to address any of that as

450
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,639
Speaker 1: far as the details of the contract, and where I

451
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,240
Speaker 1: found a stark contrast was he was asked about Zeke

452
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 1: Elliott and his response was, I want Zeke on my team. Obviously,

453
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,120
Speaker 1: his contract, his money's guaranteed, He's going to be here,

454
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 1: there's no question. My question for you guys is, obviously

455
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,880
Speaker 1: we all understand the contracts are one thing, but does

456
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,399
Speaker 1: that also tell you something. Do you get some insight

457
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 1: out of what they're thinking about with a Mari maybe

458
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 1: with DeMarcus, just knowing that that that is not as concrete,

459
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 1: that is not as as written in stone, and it

460
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 1: does make it a situation where maybe those guys are

461
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 1: are legitimately out of the door. No, I don't think so.

462
00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,920
Speaker 1: I think that if Zeke's contract was similar to that

463
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,399
Speaker 1: at then I think they might say it. I think

464
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 1: they would be on the table to maybe release him.

465
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 1: I think it starts with the with the fact that

466
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,199
Speaker 1: you can't move them. You know, It's like it's like

467
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:12,919
Speaker 1: you you go up and this is your house and

468
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 1: this is a huge statue and it's it's not being moved,

469
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 1: and you're like, do you like the statue? It's like,

470
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:19,439
Speaker 1: I don't know. You can say it's ugly or not,

471
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 1: but guess what, you're not moving it, so it's just

472
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 1: gonna sit here. So we might we better like it

473
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 1: because this is why it's going to be at least

474
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 1: for right now. So yeah, of course you got to

475
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,360
Speaker 1: say that about Zeke and all that stuff. I think

476
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 1: if Zeke's contract was at the point that those other

477
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 1: two were, I think they might try to move on.

478
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 1: I know they would move on from I really do.

479
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 1: I mean his his Yes, he had a good season

480
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 1: when he was healthy and all that, but that's part

481
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,160
Speaker 1: of it. That's the running back that doesn't They don't

482
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,360
Speaker 1: stay healthy at this part in their career. So um,

483
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 1: but I think they're gonna say all the right things

484
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 1: because they know he's going to be here. But the

485
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 1: other two, you can, you can move on from them

486
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 1: because they have other options as well. And that's the thing.

487
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 1: It's like, um, if they were sure about it, it's

488
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 1: one of those things you are talking about two guys

489
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,679
Speaker 1: or guys that are under contract currently. This is not

490
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 1: a free agent guy that's about you know that you

491
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 1: want to keep it kind of to yourself and not

492
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,880
Speaker 1: really say anything but if you feel one hundred percent

493
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 1: sure or close to being sure to wanting someone to stay,

494
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,400
Speaker 1: I think you would go out and say, well, yeah,

495
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 1: we're looking at all, you know, all the options and stuff,

496
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,160
Speaker 1: but we definitely want to keep or try to keep

497
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 1: a guy like Amark Cooper, or not even say keeping,

498
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,159
Speaker 1: but say yeah, a guy like Amary Cooper. There's a

499
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:31,919
Speaker 1: whole lot for us, and kind of just kind of

500
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 1: back it up and give them more flowers, you know,

501
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 1: and make you feel like, Okay, they definitely But something

502
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 1: about it, it's like makes me want to think something's

503
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 1: going on to where maybe they're not feeling as sure

504
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 1: or as happy or as like you feel like they

505
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,159
Speaker 1: are gonna keep him. I don't know, I don't know

506
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 1: how to feel right now, but it just doesn't feel

507
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:58,199
Speaker 1: like Amari Cooper would be here next year. Yeah, what

508
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Speaker 1: do you think is the timeline? Obviously, for Mark, you've

509
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,239
Speaker 1: got the five days into the next cale, I mean

510
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 1: the next year for the NFL, they have to make

511
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 1: a decision or they're going to be tied into his money.

512
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 1: But for DeMarcus, what do they have a timeline? What

513
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 1: do you think it's a timeline for that decision. You know,

514
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: I think that I don't know about the time. I

515
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 1: don't know if he's got a bonus on the in

516
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,679
Speaker 1: that at all, but I do think that there's a

517
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 1: priority there that they have to decide on both positions.

518
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 1: And then the interesting thing is those two guys are

519
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 1: under contract, but the next guy that's in the consideration

520
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 1: is not under contract. So is Gregory a higher priority

521
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 1: than d Law? Do you have to sign resign him?

522
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 1: And if you do, we got to cut d Law

523
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,719
Speaker 1: Or do we want to sign Michael Gallop or Cedric

524
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 1: Wilson or both? And then if that's the case, that

525
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 1: you cut you know, so because if you sit there,

526
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,160
Speaker 1: let's just say that they don't do anything with Amar

527
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 1: and Gallop signs with another team, and what Cedric signs

528
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,160
Speaker 1: with another team, and they don't really like what they're

529
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,439
Speaker 1: seeing from other you know, other guy free agents. They're like,

530
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 1: wait a second, do we really want to cut him on?

531
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,880
Speaker 1: You can't. So that's why I think that's why it's

532
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 1: set for the fifth day of the league here. That's

533
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 1: why those things are setting like that to see kind

534
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,360
Speaker 1: of how things go and see what the market looks like.

535
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: You know, because if four guys signed deals in free

536
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 1: agency that are twenty million a year twenty two, twenty three.

537
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 1: You know some guy and you're like, he's half as

538
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: good as a Mari hold up here, you know what

539
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,479
Speaker 1: I mean? So I don't know. I don't know if

540
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 1: I answered the question, no, you did good. I was

541
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 1: just gonna say it is interesting the way that Stephen

542
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 1: Jones cannot put those two groups because we've been talking

543
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 1: about these guys on here. But me, in my head,

544
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 1: I guess I didn't necessarily put the two groups of like, okay,

545
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 1: wide receiver. You got Amari Cooper on their contract, and

546
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 1: then the two next guys, which would be free agent

547
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 1: Michael Gallups Cedrick Wilson on the other side of the ball,

548
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 1: the Marcus Lawrence on their contract. Then you got Randy

549
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 1: Gregory and then another guy that also a guy that

550
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 1: has done fairly well and that you're still considering, is

551
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: Daurn's Armstrong. And they're all in the defensive end position.

552
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 1: So that's a tough decision because you got both sides

553
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: equally as important on both sides of the ball, and

554
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 1: then what do you do? And right now I don't know, like,

555
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: are you guys feeling like, for sure, for sure, they

556
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,120
Speaker 1: do need to make a decision, whether it's a guy

557
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 1: like DeMarcus Lawrence or Amari Cooper, Like there has to

558
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: be a decision made between those two guys of like

559
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 1: actually getting rid of or maybe just restructuring their contract somehow.

560
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: I honestly believe it has to do with what like

561
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 1: like Nicol saying, like, what are you doing with those

562
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 1: other guys? Because if you're target, Let's say, for example,

563
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: your target is Michael Gallup, You're like, we really want

564
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,679
Speaker 1: Michael Gallup back on this team? Then yes, Now, I

565
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: think your decision on Amari has to come, and it

566
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: needs to come swiftly because that's going to affect that decision.

567
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 1: If you feel the same way about DeMarcus Lawrence, it's

568
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: the same thing, like do you think you absolutely need

569
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence and you're like, he's we really don't want

570
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 1: to let him go, then I think you're probably making

571
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 1: a decision that we're okay with the idea that we're

572
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 1: gonna let him. Randy Walkers, you can't have both. I

573
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 1: don't think in these instances you can have Gallop and

574
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 1: Amr or you can have DeMarcus and Randy. So I

575
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: think all of those decisions kind of flow together. Some

576
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: of them are free agent decisions, some of them are

577
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 1: just decisions about guys that are under contract. Yeah, well,

578
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 1: it's crazy, is how you would consider your second guy

579
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: on both sides, on both positions, Like your second guy

580
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: is gonna determine what you do with your first guy,

581
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 1: with your starter, like your main starter. Yeah, which I

582
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: think we can all agree, like Delo would be like

583
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 1: their main starter over Randy at this point, right a

584
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: little bit ahead. I don't know that. See, that's the

585
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: interesting quart. That's why I said maybe. And the reason

586
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 1: why I say maybe is because I think, when everybody's healthy,

587
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 1: I think DeMarcus is a better player than Randy. But

588
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: when you factor in all the injury things that you've

589
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: had to deal with with DeMarcus over the last few years,

590
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 1: then I start to say, well, I think Randy might

591
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: have the leg up because he hasn't played as much football,

592
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: his body's probably healthier. So so from that same but

593
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: I think I don't I don't know that I would

594
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 1: say that he's clear that DeMarcus is clearly the better

595
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 1: of the two guys. It says like playing cards What

596
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: I like about this is when you think about these

597
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 1: two positions we're talking about Gregory and d Law, we're

598
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: trying to figure out who's the king, who's the queen.

599
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: Same with with with Gallup and and Amar and all that,

600
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: because in their mind they got aces in both, they

601
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: got pass rushers. They have an ace in Michael Parsons.

602
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: They got to figure out how to use them and

603
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 1: then they feel like CDs the ace. So that's a

604
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 1: good problem to have, is that it's a great analogy. Yeah,

605
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: and the thing about receiver's more like Amari's the king.

606
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 1: But you would rather have the jack and the queen,

607
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,959
Speaker 1: which is like sed Rick and all that kind of stuff.

608
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: But you know, I'm like calling any other players like

609
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: a queen. But you know what I'm saying, I get

610
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:49,719
Speaker 1: your point, and I think it's a really good analogy

611
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: because they do their chest. I wouldn't do a chest.

612
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: But I don't know anything about that. I don't know. Well,

613
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: the queen is the that's that's the leader, right. Yeah,

614
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 1: I'm trying not to say words, but she is. Yeah,

615
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: she can hand a little business. She's the man. Yeah

616
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: probably no, No, she's the woman. You can hand a

617
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: little business. Absolutely, yes, Yeah, she's protecting him. Yeah, exactly. Um, okay,

618
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: let's do this. Let's let's let's move that conversation a

619
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: little bit. I want to talk about the franchise tag. Actually,

620
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: Stephen was asked about that and this response was, we

621
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 1: haven't ruled that out, says they're still thinking about what

622
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: they might do and how they might use it. Talking

623
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: about who the candidates are, obviously you've got guys like

624
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz and Randy Gregory. Are there other guys you

625
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: think could be in play here that they could consider

626
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 1: for the franchise to I think it's Schultz, it was

627
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: it would be the one candidate there. So Randy you

628
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 1: don't even think of as a franchise tag candidate. It's

629
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: like seventeen million or something like that. I mean, as

630
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: it ain't cheap, no, because you've got guys like I mean,

631
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: you've got these defensive ends that are that are out there.

632
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't even know if DeMarcus Lawrence is

633
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: in the top five of that, but I mean it's

634
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: twenty at twenty one million a year, so the average

635
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: of that, I mean, it's it's up there. He probably

636
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: isn't well and you also put in one of the

637
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: stories you did maybe yesterday or the day before yesterday,

638
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: you added um Brian Inger in that list, which was

639
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: kind of like I was like, huh, yeah, yeah, it's interesting.

640
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: If I could it is, but I could go edit that,

641
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: I probably take it out. Yeah. I talked to some

642
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: people about that, that that number is a little higher

643
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: than what they want to go there with Inger. Um,

644
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: that one's going to be interesting too. The Cowboys have

645
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: or have done some research on that. They've looked at

646
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: that and looking at his career and that, you know,

647
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: it sounds like he does better on contract years. He

648
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: hasn't done it as well once they get the deal,

649
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 1: So they're trying to figure that out. And I do

650
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: think and I know this that the punter position and

651
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: the kicker position will kind of play off of each other.

652
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: There's probably a total number that they want to spend

653
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 1: within those two guys. Let's not forget Jake McQuaid. Yeah,

654
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: but but um bore, the narrative has changed on John

655
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: Fossil a lot of bones. Um now you know he's

656
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: had I mean last year was like after the fake punt,

657
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: you know, if Yasco and all that stuff this year

658
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: though special teams has done a really good job they

659
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: blocking punts. The punter had an all worlds you know

660
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: years haven't had to do crazy stuff to do it.

661
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: Like they're playing good sound football. Yeah. So and the

662
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: and the and the guys know that. I mean, Anger

663
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: knows that. He knows that he benefits by being in

664
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: this system with John Fossil. So we'll see if that,

665
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: you know, there's any kind of discount there, if this

666
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: is where they wants to be. But um zero line.

667
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: You know, he's under contract. The zerline is and another

668
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 1: one of those d law amari that he may not

669
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: be here just just further, you know, just contracted me.

670
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: It's two and a half million a year. That's not

671
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: a lot. It's seventeenth among kickers in the in the league.

672
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: I thought two point five million for a kicker would

673
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: be a lot higher than probably where he is as

674
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 1: far as his ability to kick right now. If you

675
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: look at like his statistic middle the road, Yeah, it's

676
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: the middle roll kind of guy. Yeah. Yeah, I mean

677
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: he's been in middle of the road. Yeah, and that's

678
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: he's one of those guys. He's a clutch kicker. I

679
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: think he makes good kicks, but he also will miss it,

680
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: you know, some head scratch. Yeah I did. I went

681
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: around the league and looked this up at the top

682
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: twenty five kickers in the league. Um, the average extra

683
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: point misses is like one point five every kicker. This

684
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: is about average one point five. He missed six season

685
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: just last year. Oh last year. Because there's a few

686
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: kickers that did not miss an extra point. There's some

687
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: miss one two average one. But he missed six and

688
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: Nick Folk miss five. I mean, that's just it's amazing.

689
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: I have to I have to think that's a mental thing.

690
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: If you can kick a fifty yard or a forty

691
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: eight yard or with pretty good regularity and you miss

692
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: six extra points when the average is one point five,

693
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: I have to think that's play mental. But here's the

694
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: best part, or here's the interesting part about that, And

695
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: I'm not shrink at all. Yeah, he mixes it like mentally.

696
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: I don't even know if you could say it's mental,

697
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: because if it was mental, then why can you miss

698
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: in Tampa Bay miss an extra point, miss another thirty

699
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 1: yard kick that didn't even hit the ship it was

700
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 1: so far left. And then he comes back and hits

701
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 1: two clutch kicks. But can't mental also be about focus?

702
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: Sometimes the miss has a way of focusing you in.

703
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: Sometimes the miss has the ability of allowing you to

704
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,479
Speaker 1: kind of figure out what to get wrong and correct right.

705
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: So so that could also be metal isn't as bad

706
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: as you think. Right. That's my point, and I was

707
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,320
Speaker 1: actually making that point that if it's mental, that doesn't

708
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: always mean that that's a guy you necessarily want to

709
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: get rid of, because sometimes you can fix mental. Right.

710
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,280
Speaker 1: What I've heard is that sometimes when it comes to Kicker,

711
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: in order to fix something like that, you need a

712
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 1: change of environment. So it would lead to him not

713
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: even being here and going somewhere else. But mental or

714
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: not mental, I think most will agree that a change

715
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: at the Kicker position it's needed. So his time seems

716
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 1: to be up for me from I think everybody listening

717
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: to us agrees with you. I guess the point I'm

718
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: making though, is when I talk mental, I think sometimes

719
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,280
Speaker 1: not being mentally tough is what requires a different venue.

720
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: It doesn't sound like that's the issue. I don't think

721
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 1: he's not mentally tough because he wouldn't be able to

722
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: correct if he wasn't mean, he would go downhill every

723
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: time it went bad. I think the difference is he

724
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: just may not for whatever reason, he may not be

725
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,879
Speaker 1: as focused, he may not be able to during the game.

726
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,399
Speaker 1: At the beginning of the game, may not be right

727
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 1: and sync, but as the game goes on, he's mentally

728
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 1: tough enough to be able to. Okay, I could let

729
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: that go, let me figure out what I did wrong. Okay,

730
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: I'll make this one adjustment and bam, now we're kicking

731
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 1: him in right. And so that kind of mental I

732
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 1: do think you can fix those kinds of things. But

733
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 1: I also I have to put some blame on the

734
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: Cowboys because why do they try so hard to kind

735
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: of protect their kickers, Like why again, remind me of

736
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,439
Speaker 1: training camp from what I remember. I know it wasn't

737
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,280
Speaker 1: there and I wasn't taking care of a baby, but

738
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: from what I remember, there was no competition and we

739
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,879
Speaker 1: go I feel like it's been several years where we

740
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: go into training camp thinking there's, oh, there's gonna be

741
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 1: a healthy competition at the kicker position, and it never

742
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: really actually happens. So and then even like preseason games,

743
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: did he play? Was he playing a preseason games? Did

744
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: he played? Yes? At the back all during camp the

745
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: back end, nice Winder kicked all that. Yeah he was

746
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: kicking in punting what yeah, and not kicking very well,

747
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 1: and they didn't have a kicker, and then he kicked

748
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,760
Speaker 1: and preseason, the last preseason game they try to fifty

749
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 1: something yard or any okay, well, either the point, it's

750
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 1: like you go into the season, you start the season

751
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: not really seeing a whole lot from your kicker, and

752
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: even years before, you don't see somebody else kicking because

753
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: it's easy to say, oh, yeah, we can bring in

754
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: a new kicker anytime, but then when does it actually happen?

755
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: And then we get guys during the middle of the

756
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: season trying now, and then that doesn't lead to anywhere.

757
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: At that point, most kickers are taking most kickers that

758
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: can do actually something. So I just put it on

759
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. But going back to the tag, I don't

760
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: think this is a year for any tag. I wouldn't

761
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: take anybody at all. There's nobody that seems appealing to

762
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 1: me to put a tag on that I agree with that.

763
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 1: The only reason I kind of was intrigued by what

764
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 1: you said with Anger is talking about his career and

765
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: how he's done better when he has like one year

766
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: and or us a contract year. To me, I look

767
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: at that and say, that would be a prime candidate

768
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,399
Speaker 1: for somebody. You put on a franchise tag and say

769
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: do it again. And if the number, if the amount

770
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 1: of money that you pay him isn't crazy, then it

771
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: makes sense. You get to make him do it again,

772
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: make him show you what he did last because he

773
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: did he played really well last year. So if you

774
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: can get one more year to say, hey, show me

775
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: that again, and then maybe we'll talk about a long

776
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,399
Speaker 1: term deal. I think that's the example of where you'd

777
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: want to use. I just don't think that that number

778
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 1: for the franchise tag for a punter is as high.

779
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: It's just too higher that they want to go. And

780
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: that makes sense. Yeah, So I mean I think I

781
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: think Schultz might be the best option if they want

782
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 1: to do it. But I agree, I wouldn't do it

783
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:07,280
Speaker 1: at eleven million a year. I don't know, because especially

784
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: because you can't. I mean, if I'm gonna do that

785
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: for Schultz, I mean I don't think he's gonna. I

786
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: think this is what he is. I think he's a good,

787
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: solid panelic. He can get a lot better. I think

788
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 1: he's gonna get this is it. So if I'm gonna

789
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: do that with Schultz at eleven a year, then I'll

790
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: sign him to a four year, forty four million dollars

791
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: deal and then work with the where they you don't

792
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: have to pay eleven this year because I think he's

793
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: gonna be what he is. I think he's a good player.

794
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: He'll never be like the star tight end. So I mean,

795
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna get him at eleven a year, then

796
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it in a long term deal and

797
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: spread it out and maybe don't eat so much of

798
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 1: it right now. I can't pay eleven for him right

799
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 1: now on this cap. I'd be interested to see what

800
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 1: Steven says to that question. But I honestly believe he

801
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 1: and Blake jarr were are comparable players. I think had

802
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: it not been for the injury with Jarwin, we'd be

803
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: talking about Jarwin right now in the same way of

804
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 1: being a guy that that's a safety valve for Dak.

805
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: Dak drops the ball off to him. And by the way,

806
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: Blake does have the ability I think to make some

807
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: bigger plays like Blake is not. He is the kind

808
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: of guy that can get downfield a little bit more

809
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: than than Schultz can. And I think Schultz, he is

810
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: just a guy that has a knack for getting in

811
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 1: the right spot and he'll catch the ball and that

812
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: there's a place for that, and that matters. That's not

813
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,760
Speaker 1: eleven million dollars though, And I think those are comparable players.

814
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: I think if he's gone, I think Blake will do

815
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: every bit of what Dalton Schultz did for you. Schultz

816
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,760
Speaker 1: has never been in a situation where that you didn't

817
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 1: have Cede Lamb and I'm MARII Cooper taking these outside

818
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 1: stuff like that, and then he could just work the

819
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 1: middle and that's where Dak wants to throw it. But

820
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 1: if you don't have that on the outside and you're

821
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: not worried about the receiver as much, and you can

822
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 1: maybe get a safety or something to guard Schultz, then

823
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's gonna be as good. I

824
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: think he's benefited from these great receivers and he may

825
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 1: be taking one of them away. I agree wholeheartedly. All Right,

826
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Speaker 1: we're gonna take our final break. We'll come back. We

827
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: got some more questions with regards as the franchise tag.

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870
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 1: Life from the s WBC Mortgage Studios. At the start,

871
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,399
Speaker 1: we're talking about the franchise tag. I have a scenario. Okay, good,

872
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: I have a question. If you don't mind me ruining

873
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,919
Speaker 1: your go for it. It's the sea. During the Break

874
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 1: we were talking about contracts and it's expectations and why

875
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 1: kind of expectations come with the money that you pay

876
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: the player. And we see it all the time. It

877
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: happens all the time where someone gets paid and then

878
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: people start killing them and criticizing them for not being

879
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: us good on the field. But is it maybe that

880
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 1: we're at a point where we are the ones who

881
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: need to change our own mindsets rather than keep expecting

882
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,879
Speaker 1: these players that get paid to perform at an even

883
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: higher level. Or do we still keep complaining and say, no,

884
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 1: this player actually needs to be playing at that level,

885
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? The difference between them actually

886
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,240
Speaker 1: doing it versus us maybe kind of lowering our own

887
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: self expectations of what we think of a player, No,

888
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: I think you're the first way you put it is

889
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: absolutely right. It ain't gonna happen like it's not gonna happen, like,

890
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: yes it should. But that's the world, the world we

891
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 1: live in. Like everybody is always going to the money

892
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: becomes the big target, and that means if you're making

893
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 1: that money. And by the way, part of this is

894
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 1: not fair to the player, but part of this is

895
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 1: the amount of money these guys makes so much higher

896
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: than your average everyday fan, and so the fan looks

897
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 1: at it and it's like, man, you give me an

898
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 1: eleven million dollars a year, I'll make that block. No,

899
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: they can't, but they will say I'll make that block,

900
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: like y'a'll making eleven million dollars. So I don't think

901
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: it's ever gonna change. That's my target. It's that mindset

902
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 1: that people think that you would do it if you

903
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: made eleven million dollars. The reason why you don't and

904
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: you probably make eleven dollars an hour or is because

905
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: you can't make that block and you've never made it

906
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: since junior high. Like that's that's why and maybe too right. Um,

907
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 1: So it's it's funny. I people think like the money

908
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 1: is supposed to make things different and better and it's

909
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: and it's not, but it's just the market value is

910
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: what it is. But you're onto something though, that there

911
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 1: are people that think that your team needs to that

912
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: you need to keep a stay hungry approach, which means

913
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: you don't pay. You don't sit there and go all right, well,

914
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: if you don't pay the law, we're gonna lose them.

915
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: Then then let them go, you know, like at some

916
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: point you have to do that. And that's why I

917
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys are right right now. You're gonna lose

918
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,399
Speaker 1: Dalton Shoulders, You're gonna lose Randy Gregor if you don't

919
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 1: pay them, and they're gonna have to make some tough

920
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: decisions and say, all right go. But here's the flip

921
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: side of that. Then people sit there and they look

922
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 1: at a Byron Jones and he goes to Miami and

923
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 1: plays really well. And they look at a Cheetobowoozier and

924
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 1: he goes to the Bengals and he plays really well.

925
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: And they look at a DeMarcus Square that goes to

926
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: Denver and wins his championship. And again I'm not saying

927
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 1: that there are lots of caveats to that. All I'm

928
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 1: saying is when fans are looking at it, they're like, man,

929
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 1: we let him go. But man, he's so much better

930
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: in that place than he was here. What's wrong with us?

931
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: You know? But like you said in the Break, the

932
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 1: Tyrone Crawfords of the world, the Jason Hatcher's of the world.

933
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 1: If you would have said, hey, Anthony Hitchins, is he

934
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: wants ten million a year, you gotta let him go.

935
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: You gotta cheat. They want to give Cheeto nine million

936
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 1: a year. By I mean, but he kind of earned it.

937
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 1: But yeah, But I mean, don't get me started by

938
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 1: that comment he made before the Super Bowl. I mean,

939
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: I thought that was it was low hanging through and

940
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 1: that was that was what was the critical thing he said.

941
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: He basically said that we don't even have an indoor facility.

942
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: You don't have you don't need all the lights and

943
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: the bells and whistles to do well. He's basically taking

944
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: a shot at what the Cowboys have and all that.

945
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 1: But he said Beasley said the same thing when he

946
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: went to the Buffalo, Right. But Beasley, he but Cheeto

947
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:15,959
Speaker 1: called himself a blue call. He goes I'm a blue

948
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: collar guy. Yeah, no, you're not. He's not. He's not.

949
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:22,919
Speaker 1: He did he didn't do that when when he had

950
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: a hamstring injury, he milked it as long as he

951
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 1: could because he knew he was going to be a

952
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: free agent and he said as much, and he didn't

953
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 1: want to when they were six and ten and losing

954
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: games at the end of the year. He didn't want

955
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 1: to be a part of that. So you don't come

956
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: back now because your team, because of Joe Burrow, made

957
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 1: it to the Super Bowl and call yourself a blue

958
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 1: collar guy when the Cowboys were trying to trade him

959
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: because he did wasn't playing. So I have a problem

960
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: with that. And then and then to talk about the

961
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 1: indoor facility and all that stuff. But you know, that's

962
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: that's the nage. Guys always, especially guys that leave here

963
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 1: at leave here when they were underappreciate it like they

964
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: all will to take the shot. The Cowboys are just

965
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 1: glitz and glamour. And then media does it as well.

966
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: It's fine, it's fine. But I guess my point though,

967
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: is I think there are you know, there is that

968
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,879
Speaker 1: that thinking of okay, let a guy go a little

969
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 1: too soon rather than a little too late, But I

970
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 1: think it also burned you when you see those players

971
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: leave and go somewhere else, and the same thing happened

972
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 1: with Hitchens. Hitchens might not have been a great player,

973
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 1: but he went to Kansa city won a championship as

974
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 1: a starting linebacker. So when you see that, you're just

975
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: kind of like, many, why aren't the guys able to

976
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,399
Speaker 1: have that same kind of impact here? They leave here

977
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: and immediately have that type of success or impact somewhere else.

978
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: You know, I always think of that, But look at

979
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,879
Speaker 1: and I don't know if you guys might know any

980
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: names out of the top of your head, but are

981
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: there guys where that story happens with us that they

982
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 1: kind of are bad? Any notable guys? Mark Colombo is

983
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 1: a great example. I'm sure the Bears fans were like,

984
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 1: how the heck is he playing like he's playing over there?

985
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,240
Speaker 1: When he played like that over here? Jayron Curse wherever

986
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: he's been there probably like that wasn't the guy that

987
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: was here? You know, I'm those guys. I mean, the

988
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,919
Speaker 1: same thing happens here. Now we haven't had the team success. Yeah,

989
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 1: when you start talking about guys like DeMarcus and Hitchens

990
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 1: and Cheeto, but certainly from just individual I think it

991
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 1: happens all around the league every single year. Yeah, I mean,

992
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 1: but the point that I was making is is that

993
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: the other teams are in better financial situations. So the

994
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: Bengals needed to they needed to get a good cornerback,

995
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: so they got They paid for Cheeto, and the Cowboys

996
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 1: just couldn't afford in the nineteen million, and they couldn't

997
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: afford the Dolphins the seventeen million for Byron Jones. I mean,

998
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 1: but I don't I mean as Byron Jones light in

999
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: the world on fire over there. This last year, he

1000
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 1: wasn't as good as the first. The first year, I

1001
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 1: think he was a lot of people were questioning, like,

1002
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: did Dallas make the right decision? I think now it

1003
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 1: probably is a less of a conversation because Treyvon dig

1004
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 1: is playing in the way that he's playing, right, But

1005
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: if Trayvon wasn't playing that way, I think people would

1006
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 1: probably still be saying, was that the right decision? What

1007
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 1: I want to know, and I bet we can look

1008
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: this up. What players have the Cowboys drafted here that

1009
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 1: have gone to another team and made Pro Bowls? Like

1010
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: Beasley has had a good year, and he's not the

1011
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: reason the build have done great. And neither was Hitchens

1012
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,800
Speaker 1: and neither was Cheeto. I mean, they were great contributors.

1013
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 1: But who's gone and been the man? Did? Did Chee

1014
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: don't get to the Pro Bowl this year? No, no,

1015
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 1: no way, I mean I don't think he didn't. He

1016
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 1: was I'm sure yelled. No, he was up there. He

1017
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: was considered one of the better corners in the in

1018
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:21,479
Speaker 1: the AFC. But I didn't I don't think so. Okay,

1019
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,399
Speaker 1: obviously didn't play because they were playing in the game

1020
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: and he got a pick in that game. Um and again,

1021
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 1: And I'm not I'm not trying to knock him. I

1022
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: like him as a person. I just didn't think I

1023
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: hated that comment because I thought it was it was like,

1024
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 1: it's funny how your narrative changed over over the time.

1025
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 1: But good for him, good for the Bengals and all

1026
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: that they had the money to pay for it. But

1027
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 1: the only person I can think of it, and just

1028
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: because I remember running into him one time in the

1029
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl, was was Martelli's Bennett, you know, Yeah, and

1030
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 1: he had Witten his way, and so that was gonna happen,

1031
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 1: you know, Um, I can't think of many others though

1032
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 1: that have gone. I mean DeMarcus Ware, but that was

1033
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:01,800
Speaker 1: kind of a different time as well. They wanted a

1034
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,280
Speaker 1: different role from him than what the Cowboys need. Cowboys

1035
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 1: needed him to be the man there, they needed him

1036
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 1: to be a piece. Yeah, as a different kind of

1037
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: helped Von Miller be the man. And von Miller will

1038
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: tell you right now that having to Marcus there was

1039
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 1: one of the best things that ever happened to him

1040
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: in his career. So, but I mean that's a great point.

1041
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: But I guess what our conversation really was centered around

1042
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 1: is how fans think about it. Yeah, And I don't

1043
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:25,800
Speaker 1: think fans think about it necessarily like that. They just

1044
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 1: see the success that's surrounding them and they're like, man,

1045
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: they must be contriused. They were started, they must be

1046
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: contributing to that success. Why weren't they able to have

1047
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 1: that kind of success. You think Schultz will go somewhere

1048
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:36,879
Speaker 1: and catch ninety passes and go to the Pro Bowl

1049
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: and all that, unless he's got two great receivers on

1050
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,919
Speaker 1: the outside and a good quarterback. I just don't see

1051
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 1: it now. And if that happens, I do think it'll

1052
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: be like, Wow, damn. But if you let Randy go

1053
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: after all this and he goes and gets fourteen sacks

1054
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: for somebody else that's very doable, then that I think

1055
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 1: I don't think Jerry could live with that. Yeah, especially

1056
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 1: after all the time three am phone calls and stuff

1057
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: and that the stuff that he's done and both of

1058
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: them have done. I don't think Jared can live with

1059
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 1: himself for that. And I think I think that's why

1060
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: he's gonna stay, but because I think he can't get

1061
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: a fourteen sack year for the Vikings or you know, somewhere.

1062
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: But I do think you're facing that with two guys

1063
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,919
Speaker 1: this year. I think both DeMarcus and DeMar could leave

1064
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 1: here and go somewhere and have phenomenal years next year.

1065
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 1: I think both of them are capable of. That's true.

1066
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: And so no matter how it plays out, if they're

1067
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: not on this team, that something fans are going to

1068
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 1: be looking at and they're gonna be like, if they

1069
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 1: have those great seasons, they're gonna be like, man, why

1070
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: couldn't they do that? Because I think if if a

1071
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: Mari were let's say a Mari were replaced with Davante

1072
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 1: Adams in Green Bay with Aaron Rodgers, he would have,

1073
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 1: in my opinion, Davanta Adams type numbers. Cowboys never used

1074
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 1: him like that, whether it's the quarterback, the offensive coordinator, whomever.

1075
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:49,760
Speaker 1: They never used him in that way. But he's capable.

1076
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 1: He's absolutely capable of being that type of receiver. In

1077
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 1: my opinion, I was gonna say the difference here, or

1078
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 1: for example, with a guy like DeMarcus Lawrence, you have

1079
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: a decent enough amount of years to look at, like

1080
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,839
Speaker 1: analyze and be like, Okay, what has he done for us?

1081
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 1: How has he improved or declined? And regardless of his

1082
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: contract money. But you know we were talking about this

1083
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 1: even putting the money aside, Well you can't put the

1084
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: money aside. Okay, you have to look at it too.

1085
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 1: But he hasn't necessarily been the kind of guy that

1086
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 1: is one thousand percent contributing the way you want him to.

1087
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 1: And he is a leader, He's done other things. He

1088
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 1: helps his presence on the field helps other guys around

1089
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 1: him as well. Even Randy Gregory have the kind of

1090
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: success that he's had. But when you look at and

1091
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 1: start talking about the injuries, are you now concerned? How

1092
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 1: concerned are you about his injury and last year was

1093
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 1: the main year that he missed that kind of amount

1094
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 1: of time. Yeah, the longest time that he's missed overall.

1095
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 1: But even then, how many years has it been that

1096
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: he's dealing with some kind of even what he's got,

1097
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 1: what's going to get the contract? What was it he

1098
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,280
Speaker 1: was dealing with the shoulders? So is he now becoming

1099
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 1: that kind of guy that, well, are you going to

1100
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 1: be able to depend on him? Is he kind of

1101
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 1: turning into, like I said it before, the tyrant smith

1102
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: of the defense that you don't know how long? And

1103
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 1: And to me, that's a that's a really tough decision

1104
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:24,479
Speaker 1: because you have you have to have a very good

1105
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 1: clarity of the kind of players you're gonna have and

1106
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 1: can count on on the field, and injuries are gonna

1107
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: happen regardless, and you don't know when that's going to happen.

1108
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,359
Speaker 1: But injury prone is that a word that you want

1109
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,919
Speaker 1: to be surrounding or tagged along the guy that's being

1110
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,399
Speaker 1: paid that amount of money and that's supposed to be

1111
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 1: contributing the way that you really need to start to contribute. Yeah,

1112
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 1: I mean the six or seven games, eight games where

1113
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: he was out I mean dan Quinn and the defense

1114
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 1: figured out how to how to get it done and

1115
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 1: get and win games and rush the password and all that.

1116
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 1: I don't think dan quinn success and his history of

1117
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 1: helping these pass rushers. I don't think you need more

1118
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 1: than one guy that's making more than ten to twelve

1119
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 1: million a year. I just I think you grab I

1120
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 1: forgot about that point. You mentioned the success that they

1121
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 1: had without him. Now does that now change? Oh? I

1122
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 1: think that's a partless conversation that they're having about how

1123
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 1: much they need him and whether they can can do

1124
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 1: without him. I mean, everyone said that when Dak was

1125
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 1: getting carted off against the Giants and his tears and

1126
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 1: crying and everyone the whole stadium's crying and press, the

1127
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:34,839
Speaker 1: proct people, you know, and they're like, what's that going

1128
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: to do with those contract? Well, they went out and

1129
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 1: they sucked, They couldn't score any points, and they missed

1130
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 1: him his conduct that it did nothing to his contract

1131
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 1: other than maybe he proved his point that how valuable

1132
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 1: he is. It doesn't It doesn't help that when the

1133
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: law got hurt, that they figured out other ways to

1134
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 1: do it. And so you know, that's that's just kind

1135
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 1: of the way the way that it is. And so

1136
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 1: I didn't think you need one of the two. And

1137
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 1: who do you think is more special, Randy or d Law?

1138
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 1: And I think I don't. No one's ever called d

1139
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 1: Law just like a freak, you know, like he and

1140
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 1: he's kind of freaking. He can be, he can be,

1141
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 1: But I think there's a little bit more potential. It's

1142
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 1: hard to say that over twenty nine year old Randy Gregory,

1143
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: but he's still pretty fresh because he hasn't played as

1144
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 1: many games. I think I think the differentiator for me

1145
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 1: is I think DeMarcus is a better run defender. I

1146
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 1: think DeMarcus is as good a run defender as I

1147
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 1: see on the edge at the Cowboys maybe time I've

1148
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,760
Speaker 1: been here outside of maybe DeMarcus like he is really

1149
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 1: really good against the run and so and I don't

1150
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 1: think and that's not a knock on Randy, it's just

1151
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 1: I don't think he's as good as DeMarcus in that area.

1152
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 1: And I think they're comparable pass rushers. I do think

1153
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,439
Speaker 1: that that Randy speed off the edge is what makes

1154
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 1: him special. Yeah, and the fact that he's younger that

1155
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 1: obviously helps. So you know what, I what I would

1156
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 1: do is I would focus on the defensive tackles because

1157
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 1: if you have the defensive tackles that can clog that up,

1158
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 1: then where are they gonna go wide? Who? Who do

1159
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,800
Speaker 1: you want them to go wide against? D Law or Randy?

1160
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 1: Because you're not getting wide on Randy. We know that.

1161
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 1: We saw that training camp. Everyone tried to reverse. You're

1162
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 1: getting wide on d Law either, Like I haven't seen

1163
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 1: that happen very often. I'm just saying I would get

1164
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 1: some I would beef this thing up in the middle.

1165
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 1: I mean, if I'm not getting a center, I'm getting

1166
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 1: a d tackle at number twenty four. And I don't

1167
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 1: care if he's two down player. I've heard that argument

1168
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:26,240
Speaker 1: that he get a two down player, which two downs

1169
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 1: first and second? Love it if you can do anything

1170
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 1: to get me the third and nine where I've got

1171
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 1: a couple of freaks running around. You don't know where

1172
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 1: they're coming from. Perfect, do your job. I'll give me

1173
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 1: the big, big old defensive tackle. Ye all right, we

1174
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 1: appreciate you, guys, John Us. We'll be back next week

1175
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 1: and we're gonna get into free agency talk. I have

1176
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 1: the whole list of free agents we're gonna go down

1177
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 1: the full list. We're gonna talk about who you expect

1178
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 1: to be back, who you want to have back. Who

1179
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 1: are the people that you're like, h, it's okay, they

1180
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:51,879
Speaker 1: can go ahead and leave. We'll talk about that next week.

1181
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 1: Till then for Nick Even, Amber Garcia, Dave helm and

1182
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 1: I am Derek Eagelton. This has been The Break live

1183
00:56:56,320 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 1: on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. This has been a

1184
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:04,040
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