1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for listening to the Cadino and Rich podcast. 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch us live every weekday from five 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 2: to seven Eastern to the four. 4 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. 5 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 3: Find your local station for Comedo on Rich at foxsports 6 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 3: Radio dot com, or stream us live every day on 7 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 3: the iHeartRadio app like searching FSR. 8 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 4: Okay, I did have a mountain dew today and I 9 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 4: was eating cold pizza, but I also brought. 10 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 1: A yogurt to work good for you Friday. 11 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 4: Then I opened the lid and it splattered all over 12 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 4: my black shirt because I thought I was going to 13 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 4: a funeral today. With Michigan's punishments handed down, it was 14 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 4: anything but and me getting yogurt all over my sleeve 15 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 4: and whatnot is a perfect description of how it felt 16 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 4: when those NCAA punishments came down. But Monty, Yes, that's 17 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 4: a good that's a good point to the past. We're gonna, 18 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 4: we're gonna, we're gonna move on from it because it's Friday. 19 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 4: Here On and Rich Friday, Friday, Friday, Friday Friday Friday 20 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 4: rocking out with Isaac Glow and Crowd, Jason Stewart, Crisperfats. 21 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 4: She is Moncey Blagos. I'm Dan Byer in for Cavino 22 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 4: and Rich. It's been quite the week. It wasn't just 23 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 4: Michigan getting their penalties today. 24 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:10,479 Speaker 1: It was, as we. 25 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 4: Talked about Taylor Swift on the New Heights podcast, a 26 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 4: lot's been going on as football is around the corner. 27 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 4: A week from tomorrow, week zero of the NFL of 28 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 4: the college football season. Excuse me, will start no preseason 29 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 4: games last night. That was a little different, not having 30 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 4: it on a on a Thursday and week two of 31 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 4: the NFL preseason. But we get games tonight, so we 32 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 4: are we are a fast approaching football season. And one 33 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 4: football fan is not happy with his current team. This 34 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 4: also happened earlier this week. But it opens up a 35 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 4: bigger question. And this is where Moncey and I and 36 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:51,279 Speaker 4: the crew want your inputs. All right, eight seven to seven, 37 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 4: nine to nine on Fox eight seven seven nine nine 38 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 4: six six three sixty nine. You can find Moncy on 39 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 4: X at Monzy Blagos, you can find me on X 40 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 4: Dan Byer on Fox. We're talking about bandwagons. That's what 41 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 4: we're talking about. One A list movie star said earlier 42 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 4: this week, in so many words, he is not a 43 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 4: bandwagon fan. But that wasn't his point. His point was 44 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 4: he's fed up with his current team. That star is 45 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 4: Denzel Washington. His team, the one with the star on 46 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 4: the helmet, the Dallas Cowboys. 47 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 5: I've been a Cowboy fan since the sixties. He's making 48 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 5: it hard for me not to be a fan because 49 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 5: I'm still a Cowboy fan. I'm still gonna have to 50 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 5: star on the side of the hat. But he ain't 51 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 5: thinking about us. He's thinking about his pocket. Okay, I mean, 52 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 5: Jerry John on the phone, Get him on the phone. 53 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: What does he say? You tell me, what does he say? 54 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: He says that he's getting rip my Cowboys. 55 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 6: We're the most successful brand in sports. 56 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 7: Know you mean in terms of what championship? 57 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 1: No, of course he can't say championship. 58 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 6: I don't talking about recognition, notoriety, dollars and cents and sports. 59 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 6: But in the end, the Yankee, you haven't been in 60 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 6: an NFC championship game or Super Bowl in thirty years. 61 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 6: Thirty years, okay, And for some reason, he's just stubborn. Man, 62 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 6: he just and then you got his son sitting there 63 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 6: talking about Michael Paus' is like, hey, he gotta want 64 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 6: to sign a contract. 65 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: What makes no sense. Guys, But you know this. 66 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 5: There's box office and there's Oscars. Jerry been a while, 67 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 5: he ain't been to the show. You wouldn't know. 68 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 4: Oh geez, dead cell serious jabs. He also threw jabs 69 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 4: at all of us who haven't played sports in our lives, 70 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 4: in our talking heads. I don't know if we have 71 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 4: that audio, but we'll play it later if it is necessary. 72 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 4: I took a lot from that Manci. But like Covino 73 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 4: and Rich like to do, they like to read between 74 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 4: the lines. They like to find that get in there. 75 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 4: And I hope I could do the guy's justice because 76 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 4: there was something that Denzel Washington said that just had 77 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 4: me scratching my head. When he goes, I've been a 78 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 4: Cowboys fan since the nineteen sixties, and that sounds great. 79 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 4: Denzel is old enough to remember some of the nineteen sixties. 80 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 4: I'm not calling them all. I'm just saying the facts 81 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 4: are facts. However, what I started to question then, was 82 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 4: he really a fan of the Cowboys in the nineteen sixties. 83 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 4: Denzel is seventy years old. He was born in nineteen 84 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 4: fifty four. The Dallas Cowboys came into the NFL in 85 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 4: nineteen sixty. I'm guessing at five or six years of age, 86 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 4: he doesn't remember when the Cowboys entered the NFL. So 87 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 4: when they enter the NFL, they aren't the Cowboys anyway. 88 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 4: They're just a new team in the NFL that's in Dallas. 89 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 4: But they start winning games in the mid sixties. They 90 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 4: play the Ice Bowl against the Packers in the late sixties. 91 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 4: This is when Denzel would be twelve or thirteen. I 92 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 4: think at a lot of point this is where we 93 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 4: get our fandom as kids, maybe even earlier. But then 94 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 4: there's also a point, Manzie, where you get to maybe eighteen, 95 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 4: nineteen and twenty, and the teams you liked as a 96 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 4: kid just aren't the teams you're gonna like as an adult. 97 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 4: You liked maybe one for the uniforms or you like 98 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 4: that player, but as you grow older, you kind of 99 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 4: settle into your fandom. We all have different ways of 100 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 4: doing so. The Cowboys heydays prior to their stint in 101 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 4: the nineteen nineties was the nineteen seventies. So is Denzel 102 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 4: Washington lying to us that he was actually a fan 103 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 4: of the Cowboys in the sixties, where there doesn't seem 104 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 4: any reason to be a fan. And if you've liked 105 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 4: the Cowboys for as long as he has has, are 106 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 4: you bandwagon? If you like them because they were winning 107 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 4: in the nineteen seventies. This is the dilemma. I think 108 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 4: that there are so many levels of fandom and trying 109 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 4: to figure out who your favorites are. Because Denzel was 110 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 4: born in New York, we see him at Laker games 111 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 4: and I just found out this week that he was 112 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 4: a Cowboys fan. I've seen him his Wikipedia picture I 113 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 4: think has them been a Yankees cap. So there's a 114 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 4: lot of top level teams there. But I want to 115 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 4: talk about bandwagon and his Denzel Washington possibly bandwagon because 116 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 4: he started liking the Cowboys when they were winning Super Bowl. 117 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 8: Absolutely, where has this information been for years? 118 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: You were born in New. 119 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 8: York in the sixties, you were a young kid, and 120 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 8: the Giants have been around New York. Giants have been 121 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 8: around a long time, right, yes, yeah, like he had 122 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 8: a longer even, right, Like he had a team to 123 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 8: follow and root for. But you now in twenty twenty five, 124 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 8: I want to mention that you've been a Cowboys fan 125 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 8: since the sixties. 126 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: All gay Themsel, Yeah, I just I didn't like that's cute. 127 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 1: I couldn't buy it. 128 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 4: There's things that you say, like some sports fans will 129 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 4: try to justify their fandom and give a reason why. 130 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 4: I don't think you necessarily always have to do so. 131 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 4: I have random teams, couple of random teams, teams that 132 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 4: mean the most to me. I've liked those teams most 133 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 4: of my life. And when I say most, it's because 134 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 4: at two and three, I didn't know who the Seattle 135 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 4: Seahawks were at that point. But when I was seven 136 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 4: and got to meet the Seahawks, meet Seahawks players in 137 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 4: nineteen eighty four, changed my perspective. And when I people 138 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 4: ask me, like, you grew up in Wisconsin, you're a 139 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 4: how are you not a Packers fan? And I say, 140 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 4: I got to meet the team because their quarterback at 141 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 4: the time was from Wisconsin. Family friend knew my mom 142 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 4: a friend of the family and got us tickets to 143 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 4: the game in Milwaukee and we got to see the 144 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 4: Seahawks meet the Seahawks afterwards. From then on, it's all 145 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 4: it's been at the about the Seahawks. That's the furthest 146 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 4: thing from Vandwagon because the Seahawks weren't actually good, good, 147 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 4: good up until Mike Homgren took them over, and then 148 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 4: the Pete carroll eras when they took golf Manzie. So 149 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 4: there's a lot of different like ways about this, but 150 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 4: in my specific instance, as being a Seahawks fan for 151 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 4: so long, I look at people's fandoms all the time, 152 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 4: and so like when you're talking about Denzel, like, all right, 153 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 4: if you liked them when they were winning, is that 154 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 4: bandwagon even if they've been miserable for thirty years. 155 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 8: Yes, that was a bandwagon move. And I feel like 156 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 8: there's nothing wrong with that, but it is just puts 157 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 8: into perspective of when you became that fan. 158 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: I grew up. 159 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 8: Being a Clippers fan, Like I was not allowed to 160 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 8: root for anybody else besides the Clippers, right, and so 161 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 8: whenever somebody's like, oh yeah, I'm a Clippers fan, you know, 162 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 8: it's like, all right, what jersey do you have? Kawhi Leonard, 163 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 8: that's not you jumped on the bandwagon. That's not a 164 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 8: real Clipper fan. And we have a lot of those. 165 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 8: But it's like you weren't there when Elton brand was 166 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 8: there or or Quentin Richardson or you know, like that's 167 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 8: what I remember back in my day and nowadays, like 168 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 8: a team that's perfect is when you meet someone and 169 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 8: they're like, I'm a Chiefs fan. I'm like, yeah, okay, 170 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 8: since when five years ago? Yeah okay, Yeah. There's few 171 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 8: teams where it's like you definitely probably jumped on the bandwagon. 172 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 8: I have a friend, Jacob, who is from Missouri, from 173 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 8: Kansas City, and so when I found out he was 174 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 8: a chief because he lives here, I was like, and 175 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 8: he's like, no, I'm from there. I've been one my 176 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 8: whole life. Half of these people are bandwagoners. I jumped 177 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 8: on the Chiefs ever since we started winning. There's certain 178 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 8: teams that they have a Yes. 179 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 4: I understand that the Chiefs fandom can take off, and 180 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of young fans that are 181 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 4: Chiefs fans right now. Taylor Swift is probably bringing in 182 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 4: a whole new audience of fans. There was a guy 183 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 4: that lived in an apartment complex that we lived in, 184 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 4: probably a decade or so ago, and he was a 185 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 4: Chiefs fan. Where had he had the license plate frameka. 186 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 4: So I'm like all right, and then I would see 187 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 4: him on certain Sundays he'd be in his Chiefs gear. 188 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 4: But I can't say that I personally knew or saw 189 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 4: a Chiefs fan and they were kind of good, yeah, right, 190 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 4: like it was Alex Smith good. This is before the 191 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 4: Mahomes takeoff, So there's that portion of it. You're much 192 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 4: more harder on Denzel than I am, because I do 193 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 4: think if you're still sticking with them through thirty years 194 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 4: of sorrow, that there's got to be some equity built 195 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 4: into that. 196 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 8: I guess I just don't believe that he's been dealing 197 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 8: with sorrow for thirty years. I feel like he was 198 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 8: a fan and then stopped being a fan, and now 199 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 8: he's back on being a fan and wants to talk 200 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 8: about how crappy his team is. But I feel like 201 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 8: there was a year's right, like you weren't even thinking 202 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 8: about the Cowboys, right, you know? That's not like you said. 203 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 8: We would have seen pictures on social media or something. 204 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 8: This this is the first time we've heard of this. 205 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 4: Isaac lohncrodez Here, Chris Purfett, Jason Stewart, all hanging out again, 206 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 4: your phone calls eight seven, seven, nine nine on Fox. 207 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 4: Where do you weigh in? And is Denzel Washington a 208 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 4: Bandwagon fan? If he started to like the Cowboys when 209 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:02,839 Speaker 4: they were winning. I just don't believe his story. I 210 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 4: think it's easy to say I was a fan of 211 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 4: the sixties. There would be no reason for him to 212 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 4: be a fan at that point. They were just new 213 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 4: to the league. It just that doesn't make sense unless 214 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 4: there was a reason. I think he became a fan 215 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 4: of the seventies, which helps his argument if he says 216 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,959 Speaker 4: that he's a fan from the sixties. Jason Stewart bandwagon 217 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 4: is the topic. Yeah, no, no, that's that's that was 218 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 4: where I was going to go. So I always equate 219 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 4: like the invent of television, or at least how when 220 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 4: TVs were like mass consumed with the nineteen sixty presidential debate, 221 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 4: remember the Nixon Kennedy thing all that. So TVs weren't 222 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 4: really around in a mass consumption way in the sixties, 223 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 4: so the only way to follow your team was like 224 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 4: to go down and watch them down the street, or 225 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 4: follow them in the local paper. Like, I just don't 226 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 4: think you got a lot of people that. I don't 227 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 4: think you had a lot of Dan Byer's in the 228 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 4: sixties and before that were diehard fans of teams and 229 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 4: other cities far away, So it just doesn't jive with me. 230 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 9: I don't believe that. In the seventies is when they 231 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 9: started becoming the America's team, right, that was an easy 232 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 9: bandwagon to jump with us. 233 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it was, yeah, And that's why I think 234 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: that he became a fan. 235 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 3: Isaac Glowcross a great anecdote and a true anecdote about 236 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 3: this topic of conversation. In nineteen eighty eight, Wayne Gretzky, 237 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 3: the most dominant player in hockey history, was traded from 238 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 3: the Edmonton Oilers at the peak of his career, forced 239 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 3: down the cups in five years, to the then lowly 240 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 3: La Kings, and it took hockey Hollywood. It resulted in 241 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 3: a whole new era of popularity for the NHL. But 242 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 3: despite that, there was a sizeable group of Kings fans 243 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 3: who were loyal to the team for many years that, 244 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 3: believe it or not, actively resented them acquiring Wayne Gretzky 245 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 3: and resented the new fans coming in who they considered 246 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 3: as bandwagon. I'm talking about a small, hearty breed of 247 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 3: fans who have been loyal to a team that was 248 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 3: kind of at the bottom of the standings for many, 249 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 3: many years. It's shocking for me to even say that 250 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 3: that's true, But it was true. They resented the trade, 251 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 3: and they resented all these new fans that were showing 252 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 3: up and spoiling their you know, little experience. 253 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: It's people who don't want their favorite bands to become popular. 254 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: A that's such a real thing. 255 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 8: Yes, that is such a real thing because. 256 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:28,719 Speaker 1: They love the music so much and maybe it's so 257 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: personal to them. 258 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 9: True story. I went to a Metallica concert in nineteen 259 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 9: ninety one, ninety one at the Forum and as Enter 260 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 9: Sandman was played as to start the concert, two Hessian 261 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 9: guys in front of me that were smoking pot looked 262 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 9: at each other and said, this is the song. This 263 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 9: is when it all changed. In other words, they were 264 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 9: fans of the album's previous they were the real fans. 265 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 9: But Enter Sandman gave us all of this. 266 00:13:55,600 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 4: No, absolutely, like there's there's no doubt. I know people 267 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 4: the same thing of that Black album was. Yeah, that 268 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 4: was the line in the sand for them. Tony's in 269 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 4: Vegas wanting to talk about bandwagons. 270 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 1: Tony. Welcome to Fox Sports Radio. 271 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 7: Oh, how y'all doing great? 272 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 1: Tony? How are you good? 273 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 10: Good? I want to tell y'all y'all a one thousand 274 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 10: percent wrong. I can tell you guys are not Denzel 275 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 10: fans because everybody who are Denzel fans like myself. No, 276 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 10: he's from Mount Vernon, New York, and he's synonymous with 277 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 10: the Knicks and the Yankees and the Dallas Cowboys. It's 278 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 10: just that because of the movies, especially the movie he 279 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 10: played in, uh with When with Bray Allen, he's connected 280 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 10: to basketball. Now, if you're talking about him being a. 281 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 11: Lakers fan, because he lives in. 282 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 10: LA and got houses in LA. He's more of a 283 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 10: Bandwagon fan fan to the Lakers, but not to the Cowboys. 284 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 10: And if you heard his story, he said he was 285 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 10: a Cowboys fan because of his father, and that's why 286 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,359 Speaker 10: he said sixties not sixties. 287 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: Hold on, Tony, Tony, we lost Tony. I had to 288 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: ask him. 289 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 4: So he said he's been a fan since his the 290 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 4: sixties or what was the difference? 291 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, the sixties, not sixty. No, we said that 292 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 8: the sixties, not his age. 293 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 4: Here this is and I listen. I got this from 294 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 4: Denzel's Wikipedia page. Whether it was was true he had 295 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 4: looked at Texas Tech or thought about going to Texas 296 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 4: Tech at one point because the high school that he 297 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 4: was in was also called the Red Raiders. Now that 298 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 4: is something that I think any kid can understand. I 299 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 4: was enamored with the University of Georgia for a time 300 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 4: when I was a kid because they had the same 301 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 4: exact helmet that the Packers had, but it was a 302 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 4: different color. Like it was such a it was it's 303 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 4: such a mind bleep for a kid that's eight years 304 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 4: old that, like, you know, you just didn't you didn't understand, like, 305 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 4: how could that, you know, how could that happen? The 306 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 4: quote from Wikipedia says, I grew up in the boys 307 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 4: club in Mountain, Vernon and we were the Red Raiders. 308 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 4: So when I was in high school, I wanted to 309 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 4: go to Texas Tech and Lubbock because they were called 310 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 4: the Red Raiders in their uniforms look like ours. That 311 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 4: to me is more of a reason and why you 312 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 4: would be a Texas Tech fan than you would be 313 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 4: a Cowboys fan. Now I'm not a Denzel fan, but 314 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 4: I'll say this to Tony's point that may work against him, 315 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 4: even though he says we're wrong. What a nice life 316 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 4: to be a Yankees, Cowboys and Knicks fan. In the 317 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 4: nineteen seventies. 318 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 2: The nineteen seventies were the last time the Knicks are 319 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 2: actually good and weren't the darn and winning a championship, 320 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 2: So like those are all convenient to that point. I 321 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 2: actually thought he was a Lakers fan, but I'm not 322 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 2: the I don't know everything about Denzel, but this is 323 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 2: part of the argument. And I don't necessarily think he 324 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 2: he's bandwagon for the Cowboys because he's stuck with them 325 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 2: for thirty years. I just think he got on the 326 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 2: train when the going was good and just never has 327 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 2: gotten off totally. 328 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 8: And I agree with you, and I mean, Tony made 329 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 8: a point where it's like he the bandwagon of the 330 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:19,959 Speaker 8: Lakers is also still a thing. We're just mentioning the 331 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 8: Cowboys right now. But yeah, he's in LA, so you 332 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 8: could say he's now a Laker bandwagoner. But I it 333 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 8: just like you said, how convenient, how convenient for your fandom. 334 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,479 Speaker 4: There are people of my age whose favorite teams are 335 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 4: the forty nine Ers, the No Offense, Rich Davis, the Braves, 336 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 4: all these teams at the time that were winning championships 337 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 4: when you're you know, thirteen years old, or winning teams 338 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 4: at that time, and they all just I'm a I'm 339 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 4: a Braves, Niners, Bulls fan. Like, oh wow, childhood must 340 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 4: have stunk. You have no idea, You have no idea 341 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 4: what it was like to going to school every Monday 342 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 4: in late November after Ohio State lost to Michigan. Like, 343 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 4: and my friends weren't Michigan fans. They don't care, they 344 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 4: just weren't. They laughed at me because the Buck guys 345 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 4: lost another big game. And that happened over and over. 346 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 4: Roger in Vegas talking bad Wagons. Roger, Welcome to Fox 347 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 4: Sports Radio. 348 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 12: Hey, hello to everyone, and I want to talk about Denzel. 349 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 12: I'm not a Cowboys fan, but if you go back 350 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 12: to the era when Tom Landry was the coach, they 351 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 12: were in the NFC Championship game like seventeen out of 352 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 12: twenty one years, and I know that created a tremendous 353 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 12: amount of Cowboys fan So that was just my you know, 354 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 12: thought on uh, what you said, he's a badger. There 355 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 12: was a ton of people. And again go back to 356 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 12: Wintar and that's the era that Denzel, like myself would 357 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 12: have been a younger, you know, EASi Lee and Florid Stamp. 358 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 12: You see him in the championship game all the time 359 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:59,360 Speaker 12: and having winning records for twenty plus years. Yeah, they 360 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 12: do a lot of So that's my take on that. 361 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 12: I just wanted to share that with Roger. 362 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 4: I appreciate it because there's the Cowboys and Denzel weren't 363 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 4: the reason that I thought of this, because I mentioned 364 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 4: this Tomasi earlier this week, and like when we get 365 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 4: together for Covino and Rich, we have to talk about this. 366 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 4: I've thought about this about two specific teams, and one 367 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 4: of them is in the NFL, but the one that 368 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 4: I thought about at the most is the Chicago Bulls 369 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 4: more because of my age and I have said, I 370 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 4: have respect a lot of respect for Bulls fans that 371 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 4: are still Bulls fans today because it hasn't been good. 372 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 4: Aside from a little Derek Rose run in there, it's 373 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 4: been awful. Ref So if you're still a Bulls fan 374 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 4: and sharing for the Bulls today, congratulations, round of applause 375 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 4: to you. Even though in the nineteen nineties you had 376 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 4: your way with everyone, at least you stuck with them 377 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 4: and did not veer off. But ultimately it feels like 378 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 4: there were so many Bulls fans. I was one of 379 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 4: the few people that didn't like Michael Jordan. I wanted 380 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 4: the Bulls to lose. I wanted the Sonics to beat them. 381 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,199 Speaker 4: I wanted the Suns to be fan Yes I did not. 382 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 4: I was not a Jordan fan. But at some point 383 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,719 Speaker 4: you just kind of are like, all right, you know, 384 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 4: it is what it is. They're gonna win again. But 385 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 4: that those fans that were always Bulls fans are you today? 386 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 4: And I think that there's a test to that. The 387 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 4: other one, to Roger's point of the success of the Cowboys. 388 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 4: I've thought that about the Steelers. How many Steelers fans 389 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 4: do we know that are our age? And it's because 390 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 4: not your age, Manzi, you're younger. But the Steelers were 391 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 4: winning those Super Bowls in the nineteen seventies, so you 392 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 4: obviously liked them. And now they have such a huge 393 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 4: fan base now like are you are you still a fan? 394 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: Are you bandwagon? 395 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 4: The Steelers have had success, so they've kept their fans 396 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 4: I guess well fed. But if you're a Bulls fan, 397 00:20:58,280 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 4: and even in this case, if you're Denzel and you're 398 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 4: sticking by the Cowboys, I actually don't think that your 399 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 4: bandwagon because you've been with him, that long. I think 400 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 4: that that his argument is trying to fit his reason 401 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 4: and trying to show how long he's been a fan, 402 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,719 Speaker 4: But it just begs the question of if you started 403 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 4: when they were winning, do you think that they're bandwagon 404 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 4: if they haven't won in a while? 405 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 8: Well, I think right, if you were a bandwagoner at 406 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 8: one point doesn't mean you still are like the Bulls. 407 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:28,640 Speaker 8: Like if you jumped on that bandwagon during Michael Jordan's 408 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 8: prime and you're still there, then I'm going to say 409 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 8: you're no longer a bandwagoner, but that's how your fandom started, 410 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 8: because there is a way where you were that, but 411 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 8: now you stuck by it for whatever reason. Yeah, Bulls 412 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 8: have had a rough, rough couple of years without much success. 413 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: It's been a while for it, yes, and even just. 414 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 8: Even just like making the playoffs and having like a 415 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 8: fun run, they don't even have. 416 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: That, correct. 417 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 4: You know, you've got Billy Donovan on a contract extension 418 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 4: now is what you've got. 419 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 8: That's literally and then a bunch of question marks around 420 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 8: the rest of the team. 421 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 4: She's Moncey Bolanios. I'm Dan Byer in for Cavino and 422 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 4: Rich talking bandwagen here on Fox Sports. 423 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 13: Radio if Fox Sports Radio had the best sports talk 424 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 13: lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at 425 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 13: foxsports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. 426 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 4: Dissension in the ranks here on Bandwagon Talk on Fox 427 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 4: Sports Radio, some people don't like what they hear. She's 428 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 4: Moncey belanho. So I'm Dan Byer wondering if Denzel Washington 429 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 4: is a bandwagon fan because he likely started liking the 430 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 4: Cowboys when they were winning when he was really young. 431 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 4: To right Man one in thirty years, he says he's 432 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 4: still a Cowboys fan. Monty says, yes, I say no, 433 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,959 Speaker 4: but it all stemmed from looking back. And if you're 434 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 4: a Bulls fan today, you probably liked them when they 435 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 4: were winning all those championships. So are you considered bandwagon 436 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 4: when you liked them when they were winning all those times? 437 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 4: It's kind of all this question has evolved as we 438 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 4: aren't for the guys who were in for Dan Patrick earlier. Today, 439 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 4: Today's show is brought to you by That's Right. 440 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 8: Forever forty years, Tyrek has been helping customers find the 441 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 8: right tires for how, what and where they drive. 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Mike is in South Dakota. 450 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 4: Welcome to Caveno and Rich Mike. 451 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 11: Thanks for having me on. 452 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 1: What do you got. 453 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 7: Well? 454 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 14: I was born in sixty five, and I remember the 455 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 14: first Super Bowl the Vikings played in sixty nine, and 456 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 14: it's been heartbreak ever since. 457 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: You were four years old. When you remember that, Mike, 458 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 1: I do? 459 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 4: I do, Mike, There's no way like your first memories 460 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 4: when you're five at best. I remember I remember watching 461 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 4: in front of the TV, watching Len Dawson and those 462 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 4: Chiefs run past the Vikings. 463 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 14: Yep, like everybody else does. 464 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 4: All right, Well, it seems like Mike in South Dakota's 465 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 4: got company, but your company is in Idaho. Dan is 466 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 4: in Idaho. 467 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 15: Dan. 468 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: Welcome to Fox Sports Radio. 469 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 14: Hey, how you doing great? 470 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 4: God hear me, Yeah, we got you. You're a Vikings 471 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,640 Speaker 4: fan since sixty nine. 472 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 14: Since Yeah, I don't believe it or not. I was 473 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 14: six years old and in the Super Bowl, you know, 474 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 14: if i'd sat down from the TV with my mom. 475 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 14: And so for the next few years I only really 476 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 14: watched got us that even know about the Vikings in Chiefs. 477 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 7: And then when the. 478 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 14: Purple People leaders became real big, I've I've been hooked 479 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 14: ever since. And so when I hear about thirty years 480 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,199 Speaker 14: to a championship and the poor Bulls and all this, 481 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 14: I'm telling you we got it rough. 482 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 8: Yeah, Vikings fans, I feel like Mike and Dan need 483 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 8: to meet somewhere. 484 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we both have you on. 485 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 4: Mike and Dan, Do you guys like want to get 486 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 4: together at some point and watch like a Vikings game? 487 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 3: Hey, Mike and Dan? Can I make them feel even worse? 488 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 3: Here is a touchdown from Super Bowl four. You want 489 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 3: me to play the real quick Chiefs and the Viking. 490 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: We still have our eight track awesome we do. 491 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 3: The announcer Joe Buck's father, Jack Buck. 492 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 6: Quick snap and the quick pass of Taylor he got 493 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 6: away from McBee. 494 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 5: He's him five the fifth tee here. 495 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 3: And of course he remembers that because he was four 496 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 3: years old. 497 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 4: Well, imagine the people who cheered for the Chiefs that 498 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 4: won that game that now are considered bandwagon because Patrick 499 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 4: Mahomes and the Chiefs are so good. Mike and Dan, 500 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,199 Speaker 4: we feel for you as Vikings fans. We know there 501 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 4: are many like you. You're not like David and Colorado. 502 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 4: David and Colorado disagrees with the bandwagon statement. Does he 503 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 4: disagree with Manzi or does he disagree with me? David 504 00:25:58,640 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 4: walked home to Fox Sports Radio. 505 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 11: Well, thank you very much. So I've got two things. 506 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 11: Number One, if you were a Michael Jordan fan back 507 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 11: when he was playing for North Carolina Tar Hills, and 508 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 11: of course your dad is from North Carolina and you 509 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 11: followed Michael Jordan's from North Carolina up to the professional league, 510 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 11: are you a bandwagon fan just because you are a 511 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 11: Michael Jordans fan the first and foremost, that's the point. 512 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 11: But I do have another question, but I'll let you 513 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 11: answer that one. 514 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,439 Speaker 8: No, No, you're not a man. 515 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 4: That's lore we're talking about with bands. Yeah, when bands 516 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 4: are small and they become big. It's why when Isaac 517 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 4: was talking about the Kings, like there's resentment towards all 518 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 4: these new fans, but you wouldn't be considered a Bandwagon 519 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:47,439 Speaker 4: fan because you liked him way before. 520 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 11: No, and see, so I'm not going to go the 521 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 11: second point, but I'm going to answer. 522 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 7: That right there. 523 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 11: I've got a favorite band there from Athnes, Georgia. They 524 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 11: are not on the top forty. They have not made 525 00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 11: the Hall of Fame Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, 526 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 11: and they are are freaking exceptional fan based or fan 527 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 11: based band, and of course they I'm glad they're not 528 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 11: in top forty. 529 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 12: Yeah, so you can bigger. 530 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 11: Than alf then you can tell me. 531 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 7: But I do have another one. 532 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 15: So my dad was. 533 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 11: A he live in their first twenty five. 534 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 4: Sorry if yeah, yeah, Dave, we got to cut you 535 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 4: loose because we got other people that want to want 536 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 4: to chime in on this, so we're gonna let you 537 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 4: start the weekend early. And I love Dave's passion. I 538 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 4: think he may have been a Michael Jordan fan. Chris 539 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 4: is in Detroit. This isn't for fet our technical producer 540 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 4: are different? Chris, Who's got it wrong? Chris? 541 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to Fox Sports Radio. 542 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 7: Hello there, Hello yo, Chris, Hi. This is Moncy and Dan. 543 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 7: You guys do a wonderful job. Then you made a 544 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 7: wonderful I with Monty. First of all, I think you're 545 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 7: you're wrong. With Denzille. I think you remembers I'm in 546 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 7: the same age as Dnzel and actually remember back in 547 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 7: the sixties. I just want to say, hey, Tea may 548 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 7: have stared the huge members, but from the seventies, as 549 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 7: you guys suggested earlier, he may just remember the years, 550 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 7: you know, from those old quarterbacks and those old linemen. 551 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 7: And that's all. 552 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,919 Speaker 4: Yes, I know I may have been nitpicking, but it 553 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 4: was more of just the fact of I've thought about 554 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 4: this with the Bulls, and I've thought about this with 555 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 4: the Steelers, and now Denzel is saying it and trying 556 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 4: to prove that he's a Cowboys fan. Sure people don't 557 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 4: believe me when I say I've been a Seahawks fan 558 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 4: since the nineteen eighties. Yeah, no, they'rely nineteen eighties, Like 559 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 4: there's no dreams. I can tell you the bo Jackson 560 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 4: Knight I was in fifth grade. It was awful, like 561 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 4: going to school that next Tuesday in mister Presl's fifth 562 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 4: grade class at Lincoln School. It's stunk because the Seahawks 563 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 4: are usually awesome on Monday Night football. Then Bo Jackson 564 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,239 Speaker 4: ran all over them. It was the only Monday night 565 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 4: game that I could stay up past halftime. My mam 566 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 4: waill let me watch the Seahawks play. And they were 567 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 4: actually were pretty good on Monday nights when they would play, 568 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 4: except that night it was awful. Nineteen eighty seven stunk. 569 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 8: If you guys can see a dance face right now, 570 00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 8: it's like he's living through it still right. 571 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 4: Yes, Look, I guarantee they showed the bo Jackson highlight 572 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 4: at least once on one of the TVs we've had 573 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 4: on during the show, and it happened thirty five years ago. 574 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: So Mark's in Florida. Mark, Welcome to bad Wagon Talk. 575 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 6: I believe. 576 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 16: Thank you so much for taking my call. I believe Denzel. 577 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 15: I was. 578 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 16: I was born in fifty eight. Nineteen fifty eight, I 579 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 16: was about seven years old, and so nineteen sixty five 580 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 16: is I was. 581 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 15: Born in Texas. 582 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 16: When I was seven years old, I became a Cowboys fan. 583 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 16: I became aware. 584 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 14: Of the NFL. Blah blah blah. 585 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 12: I just I believe Dunzel. 586 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 16: Maybe he you were born in Texas. 587 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: Mark. 588 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 4: That's the point, though, is like you have a reason 589 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 4: to like the Cowboys because they're your area team or 590 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 4: your state team. The Cowboys weren't the Cowboys until the 591 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 4: nineteen seventies. There's no reason for Denzel when he's thirteen 592 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 4: years old in nineteen sixty at Olives and fall in 593 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 4: love with the Cowboys because TV was not what it 594 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 4: was today. So I have no doubt that he's been 595 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 4: a TV fan that long. I just think that some 596 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 4: of the details are a little sketchy. I appreciate Mark, 597 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 4: and I think Mark, you're Scott Free, You're absolutely good. 598 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 4: We're gonna wrap this up with Bill in Pennsylvania. Then 599 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 4: we got Isaac with the latest of what's happening today. Bill, 600 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 4: you got an appropriate name. 601 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: I think I do. 602 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 15: I am a diar Red since fan. I'm sorry, Commander's 603 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 15: fan against you should have to say now. I went 604 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,719 Speaker 15: to my first game as seventy two with my grandfather 605 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 15: and my dad and my brother, and I was also 606 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 15: in Dallas, Texas in September when it was brutally hot 607 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 15: and watched Brunel throw those bombs to Santana. 608 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: Most sure you stuck. 609 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 15: I loved listen. I have I have friends that are 610 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 15: big Cowboys fans. I love, love the rivalry, and you know, 611 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 15: I mean we you know, we keep it friendly. Yeah, 612 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 15: but you know, I mean I've been the Skins. I 613 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 15: had season tickets for two twenty years after. 614 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 10: Adam since the fourth. 615 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 4: Sure, no, and no one is questioning Bill's fandom when 616 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 4: you've liked the team for that long. The Commanders then 617 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 4: for the eighties and nineties, won three Super Bowls during 618 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 4: that span, went to another one in the nineteen seventies. 619 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 4: But it wasn't it wasn't a full like dominance of 620 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 4: football run. So I can I could see why a 621 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 4: Commander's fan, you know, to this day wouldn't necessarily be 622 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 4: considered band wagon. 623 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 8: Well, not every team can be considered a team that 624 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 8: you can be a band wagon fantis. Not every team 625 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 8: has that, you know what, You're right, Yeah, the Wizards. 626 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 8: Wizards don't have bandwagon fans in the NBA. Like if 627 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 8: you were a fan of Michael, you were just a 628 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 8: fan of Michael, but you didn't stay watching the Wizards. 629 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 4: Well, you know, the funny thing is is Jason not 630 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 4: to throw you under the bus. But the reason we 631 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 4: thought his name was appropriate because it said Bill's fan 632 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 4: and his name was Bill. 633 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 1: So I thought, awesome, this is exactly what you were talking. 634 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 4: And then he goes, I'm a fan of the Commanders, 635 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 4: and I thought, oh, but I do think that the 636 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 4: Bills without Winning are becoming a lot more popular now 637 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 4: and people may jump on their bandwagon. 638 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 8: Bill's mafia is growing, whether it's because of Josh Allen 639 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 8: or Hailey Steinfeld or other reasons. 640 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 4: Jason, did you know that he was a Commander's fan 641 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 4: and it was Bill's fan in the in the bank. 642 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 9: It's almost like you, You guys have a call screener 643 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 9: today that has like half one function in here. Call 644 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 9: screening to me is like uh dan trying to dunk 645 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 9: a basketball. 646 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 4: Which I almost could when I was in high school. 647 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 4: Those are a long, long, long time ago, but I digress. 648 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 4: Isaac Lohankron is here with the latest. I could dunk 649 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 4: a tennis ball that was very easy. 650 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 8: But I was like, you can actually touch the rim, 651 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 8: like jump and touch the rim. 652 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: I could get this on the road, okay. 653 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 4: Vince Carter, Vince Carter, it was a long time ago, 654 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 4: long time ago. 655 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 13: Fox Sports Radio had the best sports talk lineup in 656 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 13: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox sports 657 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 13: radio dot Com and within the iHeartRadio app. 658 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: What a day it's been. 659 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 8: What a day? 660 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 4: I know, I know it's been one a day. That's 661 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 4: the eighth time it's happened today. 662 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,479 Speaker 6: It has I know, I know, and I thought it 663 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 6: was on. 664 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 1: You know what happened today? 665 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 4: I talked more about Super Bowl four today in my 666 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 4: entire life than I have in my entire life the 667 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 4: chiefs Vikings, I talk more about that. With the iHeartRadio app, 668 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 4: you get dream Us wherever you happen to be catch 669 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 4: all in all of our Fox catch Us and all 670 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 4: of our Fox Sports Radio shows live twenty four to 671 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 4: seven of the new and improved iHeart Radio App. Just 672 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 4: search Fox Sports Radio and the app to stream is 673 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 4: live all day every day. Be sure to select Fox 674 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 4: Sports Radio is one of your presets in the iHeart app, 675 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 4: so it will always pop up at the top of 676 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 4: your screen. Nineteen ninety one, the Atlanta Braves go on 677 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 4: this run that no one had ever expected. All Right, 678 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 4: the Atlanta Braves used to be a laughing stock, and 679 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 4: then they have all these young players and next thing 680 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,360 Speaker 4: you know, they're first in the NL West. They go 681 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 4: to the World Series, lose in a heartbreaking fashion to 682 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 4: the Minnesota Twins. I was fourteen at the time. That 683 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 4: is like prime bandwagon era, prime jumping on the bandwagon era. 684 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 4: I have an authentic Atlanta Braves Dave Justice Jersey nice 685 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 4: because I like the Braves at that time. The story 686 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,439 Speaker 4: that I just am going to say is I think 687 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 4: so many people did to try to justify them being 688 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 4: a fan, which is why I think, like Denzel is 689 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,840 Speaker 4: saying what he's saying, I feel, if you feel confident 690 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 4: enough of your fandom, you shouldn't have to try to 691 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 4: complete a case for it. But I would always say, 692 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,320 Speaker 4: and I think Chris knows, and Jason knows, and Isaac knows, 693 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 4: and Mancy you may know, but I would always say, Hey, 694 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 4: I always used to watch them on TBS. They were 695 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 4: always on TBS. So I've always been a Braves fan. 696 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,760 Speaker 4: Like that was your like out, like you really follow 697 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,799 Speaker 4: them when you didn't, but that was your way of 698 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 4: trying to justify, justify the reason why now in nineteen 699 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:40,399 Speaker 4: ninety one, you've become an Atlanta Braves fan when they 700 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 4: went all the way to the World Series. It's just 701 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 4: when the year before they won sixty five games like that, Jason, 702 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 4: you heard that one before like I watched them on 703 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 4: TBS all the time, Superstation. 704 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 9: I want to say I've seen it recently, And then 705 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 9: I was thinking, the reason why we have seen it 706 00:35:56,080 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 9: recently is because after Ryan Samberg had passed, that was 707 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 9: a common refrain on Twitter. I grew up watching WGN 708 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 9: baseball in the eighties and and watching TBS with the Braves, 709 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 9: so it was a thing in our childhood. That doesn't 710 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 9: mean all of us became fans of the team, No, 711 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 9: that just gave it right. It gave us a way 712 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 9: to watch Major League Baseball every day, and that that 713 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 9: was the way of the for the fans to say like, hey, look, look, 714 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 9: oh what have you been a Brace fan? 715 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 15: Oh? 716 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 4: Only since I've watched them all the time on TVs, 717 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 4: then you really couldn't argue. But I feel that so 718 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 4: many fans were lying when they were saying that. Absolutely 719 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 4: Lakers fans, they seem to win always. But still there's 720 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 4: a bandwagon for them. Lakers are gonna put a statue 721 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 4: of pat Riley out in front of her. 722 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 8: Can we make it good? Can we just at least 723 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 8: make a good statue? They're all so not and we 724 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 8: spend not We people spend hundreds of thousands of hours 725 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:53,959 Speaker 8: on them. 726 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:55,279 Speaker 13: At least make it good. 727 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 8: They're running out of space. 728 00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:00,120 Speaker 4: I'm not saying that pat Riley doesn't deserve a statue. 729 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,280 Speaker 4: I just feel that there are so many statues somebody 730 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 4: that are outside of Crypto and formerly Staples. So at 731 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 4: what point do you draw a line. Kareem's got one, 732 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 4: Kobe's got two, Kobe's got three, Magic Scott one, Shack's 733 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:18,280 Speaker 4: got one, Jerry West, Eligend Baylor, Wayne Gretzky, Luke Robatai, 734 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,439 Speaker 4: Oscar de la Hoya, Like it's just gonna be all 735 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 4: statues at some point. 736 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,800 Speaker 8: Phil Jackson next, he probably should Next. 737 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 4: Monzi's going to be next up on Sunday, So am I, 738 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 4: we'll talk to you then Friday