WEBVTT - 030924 Let’s Talk About White Christian Evangelical Men (Part 1)

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting from the Hip Hop Weekly Studios. I'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>welcome you to another episode of Civic Cipher, where our

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<v Speaker 1>mission is to foster allyship empathy and understanding. I am

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<v Speaker 1>your host, Rams'.

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<v Speaker 2>Ja, he is Ramsey's jaw. I am q Ward. You

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<v Speaker 2>are tuned into Civic Cipher.

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<v Speaker 1>Indeed you are, and we have a problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Just one.

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<v Speaker 1>No, Okay, we're clear, But today we are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be dealing with a problem that has become sort of

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<v Speaker 1>a cancer in terms of how this country moves and

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<v Speaker 1>how decisions are made, and how aggressive thinking has been compromised.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, for those that know and for those that

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<v Speaker 1>listen to the show, you understand, this basic truth is

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<v Speaker 1>that the tendency of humanity over the course of time

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<v Speaker 1>has been more progressive. We are kinder to each other,

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<v Speaker 1>We do things that will make our lives better and

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<v Speaker 1>make the lives of those around us better, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>And certainly in the history of this country on a

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<v Speaker 1>much smaller timeline, our tendency has been a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more progressive.

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<v Speaker 2>I have an interesting viewpoint on what you just said.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty four hours ago. I wouldn't have agreed with you,

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<v Speaker 2>but as I'm listening to you say it now, something's hitman.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you're right being manipulated a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, let's get to it. But today we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to spend a good amount of the show talking about

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<v Speaker 1>Christian white men. This is something that has come up

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<v Speaker 1>a lot in recent weeks and months, and how these

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<v Speaker 1>people there's a concerted effort to shape the country around

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<v Speaker 1>some of the principles of the Bible that they choose

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<v Speaker 1>to espouse and live their lives by, or at least

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<v Speaker 1>want everyone else to live their lives by. And it

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<v Speaker 1>causes a great deal of harm, a lot of which

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<v Speaker 1>we will discuss in today's episode. But before we get there,

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<v Speaker 1>let's start, as always with some ebony excellence, shall we?

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<v Speaker 1>I think we shall? And why don't you take this

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<v Speaker 1>one because it's a little bit in the sports lane

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<v Speaker 1>and I know you love those.

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<v Speaker 2>Rams is hilarious with regards to sports. Somehow, I'm the

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<v Speaker 2>czar and he has no idea, which neither are true.

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<v Speaker 2>During the qualifying session ahead of the race, he said

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<v Speaker 2>not quote I'm pretty speechless. It's been a tough journey

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<v Speaker 2>so far, and quote, Caruth told NASCAR, quote, a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people have helped me get to this point. Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you to every single one of y'all. Definitely ups and downs,

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<v Speaker 2>but this journey has been fruitful at times and testing

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<v Speaker 2>at others. This winter was a lot of uncertainty about

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<v Speaker 2>where I'd be driving, not having a bunch of funding

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<v Speaker 2>behind me. Just stayed true to my faith in my family. Fortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people put a lot of stuff together

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<v Speaker 2>for me in this spot, Caru said, CBS Sports reports

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<v Speaker 2>Caruth is one of the most promising talents to emerge

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<v Speaker 2>from NASCAR's diversity program in recent years. With his win,

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<v Speaker 2>Caruf joins Wendell Scott, who became the first black driver

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<v Speaker 2>to win a NASCAR National Series in nineteen sixty three,

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<v Speaker 2>Bubba Wallace, who won in twenty twenty one, becoming the

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<v Speaker 2>second black driver to achieve this feat in the seventy

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<v Speaker 2>six year history of the sport. After the Big Big Race,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, Caruth thanked his parents for supporting his love

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<v Speaker 2>for the sport. He said, I quote, I'm really glad

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<v Speaker 2>my parents are here, especially my dad, and shout out

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<v Speaker 2>to this young champion. Absolutely well.

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<v Speaker 1>I like starting off with some ebony excellence because it

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<v Speaker 1>helps us to know that we are more than just

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<v Speaker 1>these grim stories that we share, and hopefully you get

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<v Speaker 1>that from a starting off on that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's interesting that we had to build ebny excellence

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<v Speaker 2>into the show because so often the tone and the

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<v Speaker 2>feel of our show is kind of the opposite of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, and just a.

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<v Speaker 2>Way to keep us and our listeners in good spirits

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<v Speaker 2>and in a good headspace, we had to make sure

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<v Speaker 2>that every show included some great, triumphant news about you know,

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<v Speaker 2>our brothers and sisters around the country and around the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, there was something that you said before we get

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<v Speaker 1>into kind of the meat and potatoes here. I was

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<v Speaker 1>mentioning how our tendency certainly in this country has been

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<v Speaker 1>toward a more progressive agen the lifestyle, et cetera. And

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<v Speaker 1>it inspired a thought, and I want to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that we discuss that before we get into what we're

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<v Speaker 1>getting into, because it's going to be cut heavy.

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<v Speaker 2>It'd be easy to feel that the opposite is true.

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<v Speaker 2>How can we be more progressive, more united, more like

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<v Speaker 2>brothers and sisters now than before, when everything that we

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<v Speaker 2>see happening in our legislation, in our courts and by

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<v Speaker 2>our lawmakers and in our country seems to spit in

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<v Speaker 2>the face of that idea, seems to be trying to

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<v Speaker 2>drag us backward. But when you stop and pay attention

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<v Speaker 2>to it, you realize that there is a masterful level

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<v Speaker 2>of manipulation happening to the citizens of the entire world,

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<v Speaker 2>not just of this country. And what brought that to

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<v Speaker 2>my attention was thinking about the way the world responded,

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<v Speaker 2>first to George Floyd and second to COVID. Even though

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<v Speaker 2>there were conspiracy theorists, even though there were large segments

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<v Speaker 2>of every population that push that pushed back. For the

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<v Speaker 2>most part, the governments and populations of every country in

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<v Speaker 2>this world kind of beat the same drum for a

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<v Speaker 2>few months at least, Hey, this thing could get rid

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<v Speaker 2>of all of us, so all of us need to

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<v Speaker 2>collectively do something to take care of each other. Most

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<v Speaker 2>people got the vaccine not because they believed in the

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<v Speaker 2>efficacy of the of the vaccine, not.

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<v Speaker 1>Because because perfect perfect, because.

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<v Speaker 2>They even believed that it was the best option for them,

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<v Speaker 2>but for their parents, for their grandparents, for their children,

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<v Speaker 2>for those who were who had autoimmune deficiencies, for those

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<v Speaker 2>who could not make sure they took care of themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>So our humanity as a world global population was put

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<v Speaker 2>on stage in that moment, and a very large portion

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<v Speaker 2>of that population said, you know what, for everybodybody else,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to do this thing, even as they're still

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<v Speaker 2>trying to figure out if that's the best version of it,

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<v Speaker 2>even while they're still testing, and while they're still we

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<v Speaker 2>are now a part of the trials for this right.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's when you think about that, that's very encouraging

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<v Speaker 2>that most of the world, for the rest of the world,

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<v Speaker 2>made that decision based on not just keeping themselves in

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<v Speaker 2>their own posterity alive, but the people around them that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, some aren't as strong as they were. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>glad that you you brought that up because I think

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<v Speaker 2>that that.

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<v Speaker 1>Really does help explain what it is that we're here

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about today, because you know, when we all

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<v Speaker 1>need to come together and we recognize and respect the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that we are a part of a tapestry. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a human family that you're a part of. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that we're at our best selves, right, But as

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned, there is a fact I said, certainly in

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<v Speaker 1>this country that feels like they should be the deciders,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is their country, and this is their government,

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<v Speaker 1>and they should be at the top. And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to beat up on because obviously I'm talking about

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<v Speaker 1>straight Christian white men, healthy, straight Christian white men, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to be unkind because I realized that

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<v Speaker 1>the world around them is changing and they feel very

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<v Speaker 1>threatened by that. When you've been in first book this

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<v Speaker 1>is me, you can push back. You guys should see

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<v Speaker 1>c But you know, these are our brothers. I would

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<v Speaker 1>not call the rest of us brothers and sisters and

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<v Speaker 1>leave them out right, And I have to respect the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that when you've been in that position for such

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<v Speaker 1>a long time and the world around you starts changing

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<v Speaker 1>and you've never been in a different position a lower position,

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<v Speaker 1>if you will. It can be very scary. I'm saying

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<v Speaker 1>it's right. I'm just respecting the humanity behind the reaction. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>In other words, I can see people succumbing to fear

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<v Speaker 1>and taking all these drastic steps and pushing back harder

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<v Speaker 1>than ever right against a decidedly overall progressive agenda. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>in the scale of countries, over the scale of hundreds

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<v Speaker 1>of years, of course, there has been a tendency toward

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<v Speaker 1>a more progressive societal framework. Okay, in the span of

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<v Speaker 1>one lifetime even, but in the span of twenty years,

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<v Speaker 1>thirty years, that could go back and forth, maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of times. Now, because we're talking about straight Christian

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<v Speaker 1>white men, our brothers, we have to explain what is

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<v Speaker 1>going on with this group of folks some of the

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<v Speaker 1>people in this cause. You know, sometimes people will say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's not all people, and there are people

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<v Speaker 1>who push back against that. Right, Well, don't say not

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<v Speaker 1>all of them, because like side steps the problem I

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<v Speaker 1>push back against that. I think it's important to say

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<v Speaker 1>not all people. You know. Indeed, we're going to show

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<v Speaker 1>one such individual who qualifies as a straight Christian white

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<v Speaker 1>man who's a state representative from Texas. He goes by

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<v Speaker 1>the name of James Talerico, and he is one of

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<v Speaker 1>our brothers, but he's one of the people who's identifying

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<v Speaker 1>this white Christian nationalist agenda that has infiltrated our politics,

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<v Speaker 1>that has served to ultimately dismantle abortion protections, affirmative action.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a concerted effort to elect officials that espouse this

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<v Speaker 1>very old school way of thinking. And you know, on

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<v Speaker 1>the second half of the show, we're actually going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about one such individual who had a lot to say.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a minister himself, but he had a lot to

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<v Speaker 1>say from a pullpit of a megachurch, a mega megachurch,

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<v Speaker 1>about doctor king, about black people, about women, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>And these aren't isolated incidents, but we're going to use

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<v Speaker 1>a handful of these to explain to you this movement

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<v Speaker 1>and kind of the nature of the movement. So before

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<v Speaker 1>we get there, let's play this video from James Talerico

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<v Speaker 1>so you get an understanding of how he explains this

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<v Speaker 1>white Christian nationalist movement.

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<v Speaker 3>Christian nationalism is on the rise. Three years ago, Christian

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<v Speaker 3>nationalists stormed the US capital, killing police officers while carrying

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<v Speaker 3>crosses and signs reading Jesus Saves. Two years ago, Christian

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<v Speaker 3>nationalists on the US Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade,

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<v Speaker 3>allowing states like ours to outlaw abortion even in cases

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<v Speaker 3>of rape and incest. And as we speak, Christian nationalists

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<v Speaker 3>billionaires are attempting to dismantle public education in the state

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<v Speaker 3>of Texas and therefore dismantle democracy. Let me be very clear,

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<v Speaker 3>there is nothing Christian about Christian nationalism. It is the

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<v Speaker 3>worship of power, political power, social power, economic power in

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<v Speaker 3>the name of Christ. And it is a betrayal of

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<v Speaker 3>Jesus of Nazareth. Jesus never asked us to kill police officers.

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<v Speaker 3>Jesus never asked us to ban books, silence teachers, or

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<v Speaker 3>defund schools. Jesus never asked us to control women's bodies.

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<v Speaker 3>Jesus never asked us to establish a Christian theocracy. All

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<v Speaker 3>he asked was that we love thy neighbor.

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<v Speaker 1>So again, this is a Christian white man who is

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<v Speaker 1>explaining this white Christian nationalist movement. And I want to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure that we shout out that came from dal

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<v Speaker 1>Hughley's Instagram page where we got that, so you can

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<v Speaker 1>go and check that out for yourself and you can

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<v Speaker 1>see for yourself exactly who's talking. Now, for the first

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<v Speaker 1>part of the show, I'm going to share a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of examples of how this looks and you need to

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<v Speaker 1>know this. And I wanted to speak to the fears

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<v Speaker 1>that are kind of prevalent in these groups, so that

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<v Speaker 1>if you're having conversations with people like this, you kind

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<v Speaker 1>of know where they're coming from. You know, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>matter if their fears are well founded in your mind.

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<v Speaker 1>All that matters is that their fears are well founded

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<v Speaker 1>in their minds, and speaking to those fears, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's where you begin to have conversations that can be constructive. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll admit, before I give you both of these examples,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm about to give you that some of these folks

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<v Speaker 1>are in the deep end. But the fact remains is

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<v Speaker 1>that they are our brothers on this show, they are

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<v Speaker 1>our brothers. Right. That's if you're on this planet with

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<v Speaker 1>us and we were both created by the same maker,

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<v Speaker 1>whoever you decide that that is, then you are our

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<v Speaker 1>brother and we will hold out even when it's tough,

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<v Speaker 1>we will still hold out a modicum of grace for

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<v Speaker 1>some forgiveness for you got unless job. We have to

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<v Speaker 1>otherwise what's the point of all this? Right, So, first thing,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to share this with you. I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>it to share like in terms of the clip because

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<v Speaker 1>it's a little vulgar, but you're welcome to go check

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<v Speaker 1>this out on TMZ. The long and the short of

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<v Speaker 1>it is that there is a gentleman by the name

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<v Speaker 1>of Emmitt Martin I believe this is his last name.

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<v Speaker 1>He was being interviewed by an NBC journalist named sha

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<v Speaker 1>Quill Brewster. Okay, and Emmitt is a white man, older

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<v Speaker 1>i'd guess somewhere in his fifties, maybe early sixties, somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>in there. And then she kill Brewster is a young

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<v Speaker 1>black man, not that that matters, but just so that

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<v Speaker 1>you can find the video if you choose to search

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<v Speaker 1>it out, and he's Shaquille is interviewing him, trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get a sense of who's going to vote for and

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<v Speaker 1>if he's interested in voting for Nikki Haley, which we

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<v Speaker 1>know she's dropped out of the race. But at the

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<v Speaker 1>time when this video came out, it gave session especially Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but at the time when this video came out, it

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<v Speaker 1>really shows how some of this thinking has really come

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<v Speaker 1>back and retaken kind of a center stage. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>back when men were men and women were happier for it. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>this sort of again old school way of thinking, this

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<v Speaker 1>non progressive mindset.

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<v Speaker 2>There, unfortunately, are women who do still subscribe to that

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<v Speaker 2>ideology because they do see the benefits and having sure

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<v Speaker 2>the patriarchy and all that comes with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, I recognize and respect that there's people of all

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<v Speaker 1>walks of life and all colors who can see benefits

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<v Speaker 1>and all sorts of things. But the overwhelming numbers suggest

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<v Speaker 1>that this is a very conservative, very Christian, very white,

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<v Speaker 1>very male way of thinking. That's where you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>find the strongest cohort of individuals who support this way

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<v Speaker 1>of thinking. So one of the things that he said

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<v Speaker 1>is that he's not going to vote for Nikki Haley

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<v Speaker 1>because she lacks the anatomy necessary to scratch herself. It

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<v Speaker 1>was really just such a why it was, It was

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<v Speaker 1>really weird, and it was Vulder And I understand that

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<v Speaker 1>these are though these are isolated examples, sure, and I

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<v Speaker 1>know I know, but let me say this, these are

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<v Speaker 1>these are individuals that are saying this, right.

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<v Speaker 2>That is not honest that's fair.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, these are individuals, and I don't love it when

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<v Speaker 1>people take a couple of individual examples in string together

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<v Speaker 1>and narrative. But the fact is that these examples do support, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>something that has been journalistically documented from credible sources, and

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<v Speaker 1>that the white Christian nationalist movement has become more radicalized,

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<v Speaker 1>has moved further to the right, has moved further away

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<v Speaker 1>from the Gospel of Jesus Christ than ever before, and

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<v Speaker 1>on and on, and all of these things have resulted

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<v Speaker 1>in power grabs and a pushback against again more progressive

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<v Speaker 1>reforms that have allowed for more advancement for other people

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<v Speaker 1>in society. The thing about what Emmitt said that really

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<v Speaker 1>stood out to a lot of people and why he

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<v Speaker 1>was making headlines on TMZ and elsewhere, is he said

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<v Speaker 1>women again, He's talking about Nicki Haley, but he says

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<v Speaker 1>women are only good for having babies and taking care

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<v Speaker 1>of the house. Okay, so this kind of gives you

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<v Speaker 1>another aperture into that way of thinking. Right now, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to move to another example.

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<v Speaker 2>Before you move on. Important to point out that you'd

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<v Speaker 2>think something like that as an opinion would be an

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<v Speaker 2>auto disqualifier for him and people that think like right,

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<v Speaker 2>like you think of a politician was running for office

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<v Speaker 2>and came out and shared that type of rhetoric that

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<v Speaker 2>at least to the women voters in the country, that

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<v Speaker 2>they would be automatically disqualified and have no support from

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<v Speaker 2>women voters. That is sadly untrue.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that. I'm glad you mentioned that too, because

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things that I think is that stems

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<v Speaker 1>from a lot of the fear in this country, fear

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<v Speaker 1>of mass shooters, fear of immigration invasion, fear of the

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<v Speaker 1>great replacement. For those that don't know, there's this theory

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<v Speaker 1>on the far right that suggests that white people are

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<v Speaker 1>being systematically replaced by Jewish people, and it's a very

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<v Speaker 1>bizarre thing, and it's really old school theory, and so

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<v Speaker 1>far nothing like that is even gotten close to happening.

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<v Speaker 1>But in the right circles, this is a very real

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<v Speaker 1>fear for these people. And one of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>we've learned recently is that people who have attendancy to

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<v Speaker 1>be more fearful of the unknown tend to be more

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<v Speaker 1>conservative in their voting, and so fear is particularly susceptible

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<v Speaker 1>to or rather people who are conservative are how am

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<v Speaker 1>I saying this, people who have a tendency to be

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<v Speaker 1>more fearful tend to be more conservative with the vote, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just say it that way. And people who are

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<v Speaker 1>less afraid tend to be more willing to take chances

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<v Speaker 1>and to lean into their more empathetic feelings even if

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<v Speaker 1>it presents a small risk to themselves personally. Right. And

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<v Speaker 1>so we have to understand that a lot of times

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<v Speaker 1>these people are dealing with a great deal of fear,

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<v Speaker 1>and so the Great Replacement and these other elements that

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<v Speaker 1>have become kind of conspiracy theories in these circles are

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<v Speaker 1>very real. They're very vivid to these folks. Now I

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<v Speaker 1>want to share another story. This one comes from NBC.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned elected officials, So this one comes from Missouri.

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<v Speaker 1>The Missouri Republican Party said Thursday was working to remove

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<v Speaker 1>a Republican candidate for governor from the primary ballot after

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<v Speaker 1>a picture of him appearing to do a Nazi salute

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<v Speaker 1>while standing in front of a burning cross resurfaced online.

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<v Speaker 1>In the picture of the candidate, Daryl Leon McClanahan, the

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<v Speaker 1>third is seen apparently saluting alongside a hooded man in

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<v Speaker 1>clan robes. Quote the Missouri Republican Party has been made

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<v Speaker 1>aware that Daryl Leon McClanahan, the third filed for governor

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<v Speaker 1>as Republicans despite his affiliation with the Ku Klux Klan,

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<v Speaker 1>which fundamentally contradicts our party's values at and platform. Quote

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<v Speaker 1>that's what the party said in a post on x Thursday.

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<v Speaker 1>Goes on to say, we have begun the process of

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<v Speaker 1>having mister McClanahan removed from the ballot as a Republican candidate. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to finish this and then we'll touch on this.

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<v Speaker 1>McClanahan responded in a post, saying, in part, quote the

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<v Speaker 1>GOP knew exactly who I am. What a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>anti white hypocrites. In a statement to NBC News, McClanahan

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<v Speaker 1>indicated he fight the move. Quote I filed legally and lawfully.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, they will need to file a civil complaint

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<v Speaker 1>to remove me. Mcclanahan's campaign website describes him as quote

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<v Speaker 1>the Conservative Voice for Governor of Missouri. Missouri en lists

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<v Speaker 1>one of his campaign promises as opposing the woke agenda.

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<v Speaker 1>So what we What I want to mention here is

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<v Speaker 1>that I do believe that he's right that they knew

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<v Speaker 1>exactly who he was. They had to distance himself when

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<v Speaker 1>the pictures resurfaced, and rather than him saying, oh, no,

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<v Speaker 1>that wasn't me, or you know that's photoshop or ai,

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, no, no, you knew who I was. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to sue you to continue to run all.

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<v Speaker 2>Of them anti white the irony. Sure, it's almost laughable.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, and you see you see how that rhetoric he

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<v Speaker 1>he It almost suggested he has a decidedly white agenda.

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<v Speaker 1>And you mentioned something before we started recording today that

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<v Speaker 1>I thought was really dope, and I think that you

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<v Speaker 1>kind of got inspired by Dave Chappel. But effectually, what

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<v Speaker 1>you communicated was that everybody in China is Chinese. And

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to expound upon that for our listeners. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been trying to figure out a way to articulate

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<v Speaker 2>what he was trying to say, and when he said

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<v Speaker 2>it, it just made so much sense. Everyone in China is Chinese.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone in Australia is Australian. Only here do our leaders

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<v Speaker 2>and our government see us as other. So when they

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<v Speaker 2>make policy and when they make decisions, it is not

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<v Speaker 2>with us in mind. It is only with a certain

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<v Speaker 2>segment of the population in mind, and it's fully intentional

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<v Speaker 2>that way. So, even if we don't agree with the

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<v Speaker 2>way that other countries govern, when they do something that

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<v Speaker 2>is for the benefit of China, it is for the

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<v Speaker 2>benefit of all people that are Chinese, at least in theory. Here,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not even the truth. In theory, it's very very

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<v Speaker 2>open and very very straightforwardly not to benefit minorities and

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<v Speaker 2>poor people.

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<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately,