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Speaker 2: The official weapon of the show is photlden chair, that's correct,

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Speaker 2: and the unofficial sport and bulletball extreme. All right, this

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Speaker 2: episode is just gonna be kind of quick and dirty.

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Speaker 2: I think we'll see maybe an hour and a half

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Speaker 2: from now, we still talking about who Knows. But I

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Speaker 2: didn't really put it in too much of a format

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Speaker 2: because I only really want to talk about a couple

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Speaker 2: of things, Okay, and you know they're they're important things,

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Speaker 2: of course, but you know, if we get the other ship,

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Speaker 2: we get the other ship.

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Speaker 1: But it's not like major.

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Speaker 2: The first thing I wanted to say, because I did

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Speaker 2: promise to talk about two things. One I want to

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Speaker 2: talk about that paper about social media. See if we

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Speaker 2: can glean anything from it. I think that's kind of cool.

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Speaker 2: Let's go uh and then the other thing, which I'll

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Speaker 2: talk about first, we we'll get into. Have you seen

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Speaker 2: this this thing with Kamala Harris where she's put out

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Speaker 2: the the like black man agenda type thing that that

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Speaker 2: every that that certain black men were asking for.

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Speaker 3: I think I may have.

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Speaker 4: It's a list, I think, but but I didn't be

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Speaker 1: I saw a tweet.

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Speaker 2: It had like five items in the tweet that she unveiled.

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Speaker 2: Now this goes full circle back to you know, Barack

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Speaker 2: Obama was talking to a group of black men who

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Speaker 2: presumably are voting for Kamala Harris. They're at a support

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Speaker 2: We kind of talked about this a little bit Saturday,

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Speaker 2: like there are people that just kind of already don't

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Speaker 2: why they shouldn't fuck with him. And I know a

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Speaker 2: black men like that, And you know, I'm not challenging

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Speaker 2: their blackness or whatever they feel that way, that's fine.

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Speaker 1: I'm not really a feelings guy in that way when

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Speaker 2: So at no point I ever felt disappointed in him,

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Speaker 2: because I've just never I never built that man up

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Speaker 2: I never saw him as the pro black activist guy.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying he's not pro black. I'm not saying

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Speaker 2: he didn't do activism, but I like when they were

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Speaker 2: selling me that as part of like why should vote

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Speaker 2: for him, I was just listening to what came out

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Speaker 2: of his mouth. I can't explain this anymore. I honestly,

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Speaker 2: I know that the business of politics is a very

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Speaker 2: Romo can watch a quarterback play and be like that

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Speaker 2: And is it even possible to accomplish that?

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Speaker 1: What gets us closer to that? What does it?

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Speaker 2: That's the only way I really can view politicians, and

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Speaker 2: Like I'm not like I love the inauguration with Obama won.

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Speaker 2: You saw Jesse Jackson crying and shit. So it's not

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Speaker 4: Also, it's one of those things. So I'm like you,

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Speaker 4: I listened to the words that came out of his mouth.

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Speaker 4: got so wrapped up in him, quote Unico ending fucking racism, which.

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Speaker 4: And I also understand that he's the president of this

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Speaker 4: get the position. That's understandable. He's not special, he's not unique.

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Speaker 4: He's not doing anything that any other president you know,

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Speaker 4: And then they get sad, mad, disappointed and all this shit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And like I said, I I know politics is

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Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know why, Like when I

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Speaker 2: I was like, if if this is a emotional thing,

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Speaker 2: but they better pick better not be Kamala Harris. That's

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Speaker 2: just an emotional thing. I don't want to get into

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Speaker 2: your emotions. Let's have a plan. If the plan is

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Speaker 1: We don't need to have an open convention.

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Speaker 2: We don't need to do a bunch of last minute

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Speaker 2: because that sounds like a plan. I don't need. I

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Speaker 2: don't I don't need y'all feel great about any of this.

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Speaker 2: I just need I need something that can happen that

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Speaker 2: we can win with anyway. So Obama addresses these men

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Speaker 2: in this uh, and it's kind of like off the.

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Speaker 2: And like they weren't like it wasn't part of his speech.

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Speaker 2: Like I saw his speech. I will listened out forty

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Speaker 3: But.

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Speaker 2: There's a there's a few things that are complicated about it.

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Speaker 2: I do want to discuss. One of the things is.

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Speaker 1: There's some a lot of grifters jumped on this.

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Speaker 3: I can see that.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know if people aren't noticing that or

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Speaker 2: just their animosity towards Obama and this whole like anti

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Speaker 2: And that's the reason I bristoled has comments because it's

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Speaker 2: I don't think these people deserved attention. And some people

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Speaker 2: the same way that I delete the comments on our

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Speaker 2: YouTube when someone writes some pejorative thing about you know,

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Speaker 2: we're like getting upset, they like that we're talking about it.

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Speaker 2: And what I mostly feel is an anger that these

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: I don't like, and I've been very vocal about the

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Speaker 2: these black men, these Jamar's are letting us down. That's

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Speaker 2: not fucking true. Yeah, how many exupposed do we need

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Speaker 1: I know why people want it to be true.

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Speaker 2: It's because some people have been fighting these gender wars

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Speaker 2: the internet, here's a thing where I can make you

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Speaker 2: It's not giving you what is actually real. It's a

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Speaker 2: warped version of reality. The fact is the majority of

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Speaker 2: don't care if they're celebrities, ice Cube, don't represent me,

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Speaker 2: you know, that's that's his rich ass opinion. He'll be

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Speaker 2: getting retweets, blowing up off of this.

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Speaker 1: They're fucking coons, Like I'm not.

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Speaker 2: Talking about all these black men, I'm talking about the

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Speaker 2: ones who were coons before you even heard needs this

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Speaker 2: sentence before Obama said anything. They're now using this clip

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Speaker 2: to be like, look what Obama has done to black men.

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Speaker 2: That's why I don't like it's common.

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Speaker 4: Right, because they're already out there and it's one of

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Speaker 4: those things where not only with Obama's comments, it's the

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Speaker 4: same thing that the news media was running like a

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Speaker 4: Trump and talking about how black men was the problem.

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Speaker 3: I was like, none of this is true at all.

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Speaker 4: Where are the articles that, like you say, states that

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Speaker 4: a black one number one, black men number two, y'all like, like,

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Speaker 4: y'all not doing those articles.

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Speaker 2: Who does it serve to propagate that huge like this,

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Speaker 2: to over exaggerate the disconnection between black men and women

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Speaker 2: I'm tired of this, and it's like, girl, you didn't

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Speaker 2: But there's plenty of churches where you are really talking.

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Speaker 2: The problem is there's no in house in there's no

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And also I think for me, it's like several

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Speaker 3: And I hate when they.

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Speaker 3: So when elections.

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Speaker 3: We don't.

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Speaker 4: We yes, we do impact it, but we are also

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Speaker 3: Mod a lot of white people just don't give a fuck, So.

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Speaker 1: We don't talk like that to anyone.

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Speaker 2: Else, right, And I'm sorry if this is disappointed for

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Speaker 1: If y'all. If I'm mistaken, let me know.

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Speaker 2: But I don't see this like Latino men do not

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Speaker 1: Wrong with y'all? Get your shit together, right? I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't understand why you would reserved this message just

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Speaker 1: Wh wasn't it propagated when it propagates.

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Speaker 2: The myth that black men don't do enough with their vote,

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Speaker 2: But people don't like at least the politicians who are

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Speaker 1: And he fucking apologized for that shit. He didn't say.

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Speaker 2: Nothing wrong, but he apologized just because of the way

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Speaker 1: You shake that you have a beer.

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Speaker 2: Summing with a cop who clearly did some racist shit

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Speaker 2: It's like, it's just fucking squash. This shit is not

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Speaker 2: Had one of these distraction moments where people can't see

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Speaker 2: So that's that's one thing The other thing is in

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Speaker 2: He only talks to black men when it's time to

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Speaker 1: That is not true. That is not true.

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Speaker 2: He's had this program first from his beginners, this community

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Speaker 1: Girls in the program.

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Speaker 2: It's a club of one person. Yes, And a lot

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Speaker 1: You can be like me, but you gotta be focused.

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Speaker 1: You gotta do this.

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Speaker 2: That's what he's done for at this point see two

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Speaker 2: I think it's just easy to get into these hyperbolic assumptions.

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Speaker 1: How do you feel I feel? How he felt?

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Speaker 2: What he said is how I feel. I think that

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Speaker 2: wasting your vote, and I think you're putting us in peril.

437
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,920
Speaker 1: I think I would think that of any person, honestly.

438
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 2: All the people, and I do think a lot of people,

439
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 2: not just black men. The real problem is this is

440
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 2: a black woman. They're not gonna come out and say

441
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:52,439
Speaker 2: that right Obama can use the stick, he can be

442
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,719
Speaker 2: the one to say it, because she damn well can't.

443
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,359
Speaker 2: She can't go anywhere right now and say what the

444
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,640
Speaker 2: truth is, which is the hand the holdouts that are

445
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 2: saying bigoted shit online, the ones that are that are

446
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,159
Speaker 2: that are just you know, she's a terrible candidate, but

447
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,879
Speaker 2: not acknowledging that Trump is a much worse candidate. Meaning

448
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna pretend this other thing is happening, so

449
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 2: I can only be critical of one side.

450
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 1: I'm tired of it.

451
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 2: It's lame, it's corny, it's fucking predictable, it's not it's

452
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 2: not well reasoned, it's not very well principled. In my opinion,

453
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 2: it's just a waste of fucking time. It's the same

454
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 2: as being Barron Donald's. To me, it's a troll situation.

455
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,879
Speaker 2: I understand some people need to pound their chest and

456
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:38,400
Speaker 2: get that out once again.

457
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 1: I ain't.

458
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 2: I'm not really like that, and I don't really have

459
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 2: to respect that, and I'm just not gonna engage with that,

460
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 2: like whatever you need to do to feel more like

461
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 2: a man in this situation and like an individual. I

462
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,360
Speaker 2: just this isn't one of those times for me. Why

463
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,680
Speaker 2: why I can respect that. I don't see that you're

464
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 2: being an individual. I don't see that you're being more principal.

465
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 2: This feels like a everybody knows your cook chicken to

466
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty five degree situation and you like, well,

467
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,120
Speaker 2: I like my chicken one hundred and thirty and ain't

468
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 2: nobody gonna tell me what to do.

469
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:12,919
Speaker 1: That's how this feels to me.

470
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 2: Well, I'm like, okay, go die go salmonella get sick.

471
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,199
Speaker 2: But I'm like, I'm sorry that that the men. You

472
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 2: didn't have a bunch of different choices, But if you're

473
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,120
Speaker 2: gonna get the chicken, you should go ahead and get

474
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 2: it at the right temperature. Is not You're really not

475
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,919
Speaker 2: proven shit by sitting this one out to me. I

476
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 2: think that's how bad this situation has gotten in America.

477
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker 2: If this was even and there, look there's no Republican,

478
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 2: I'd vote for it. But like I could understand if

479
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:45,199
Speaker 2: we were talking about ah, if Nicki Haley was on

480
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 2: the ballot, I might even understand people being like, well, look, man,

481
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 2: Kama's not good enough for me, and Nicki Haley got

482
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 2: some good ideas, like or something where she's tried to

483
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,880
Speaker 2: say something, this is not what's happening.

484
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 1: So I think.

485
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 2: The lies about Obama, it's just they don't they don't

486
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 2: run with me.

487
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 1: That's all. Like you can call him Corney say it's

488
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 1: not your type of nigga. I see that.

489
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 2: I don't think there's a president of America. I don't

490
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 2: think anyone can be president of America and be my

491
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 2: type of guy. I don't think it's not a my

492
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 2: type of guy. Job, you know what. I like, they're

493
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,159
Speaker 2: not gonna hook any of my homies up with the

494
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 2: White House. It's just it's not that's that I understand

495
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 2: what that job is, you know, and I'm not looking

496
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 2: to hire a friend for that position. It's not you know,

497
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 2: it's saying motherfucking McDonald's or whatever. So I think that

498
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 2: that myth making that lie, that that persistent, like he

499
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 2: ain't for the people or whatever, I don't know whatever.

500
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 1: But the the erosion of.

501
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 2: It's deflating. It's the erosion of positive momentum.

502
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 3: Yes, I can see that.

503
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't see how people because I've seen people

504
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,719
Speaker 2: fighting and then they're just calling black man like you know,

505
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 2: week and bitches and stop catering to these niggas and

506
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 2: all this stuff. And they're not making any real delineation

507
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 2: or exception. They're not being very specific. It's being very generalized.

508
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 2: I don't know why everybody's doing this. You could and

509
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 2: maybe it's because the guy who said it didn't set

510
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,199
Speaker 2: the tone right. But all you gotta do is be like,

511
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 2: we just talking about a handful of brothers, and I

512
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 2: really think we could nip all this in the bud

513
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 2: if you like I really think if he would have

514
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 2: sat there and said, I'm not talking about y'all in

515
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 2: this room, y'all doing the right thing, y'all where y'all

516
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:44,919
Speaker 2: supposed to be, and it killed it. I appreciate y'all service.

517
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 2: This is what we need from our community. Y'all are leaders.

518
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,199
Speaker 2: I want you to go back into your community. And

519
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 2: we have some brothers that I hold out we have

520
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 2: and he can say everything he said from that point

521
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 2: on exactly the same, yes, sir, and I feel like

522
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 2: everybody that is in good faith would have said, I

523
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 2: see what he means. I see where he's coming from.

524
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 2: He's not talking about this is not admonishing black men.

525
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,880
Speaker 2: This is admonishing those niggas. And for those that don't

526
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 2: think he should have to say that, I present to

527
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 2: you where we're at right now, with.

528
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,360
Speaker 1: Y'all fighting on the internet about.

529
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 3: It right, clearly he could.

530
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: Have said that and been better.

531
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,160
Speaker 2: This is why I said, I hold myself to our standard.

532
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 2: Then people hold me too sometimes because I remember when

533
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 2: I said that black men are white people of black

534
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 2: people thing, and I was like, man, I shouldn't have

535
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 2: said it that way because it caused a lot of

536
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 2: animals and they're like, but it's true, it's just about privilegion.

537
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 2: I said, I know. I spent a lot of time

538
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 2: trying to explain that to people. But if the message

539
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 2: won't connect, even with the people that in good faith

540
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 2: come to the message that's on the messenger, yeah, I

541
00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 2: can't put the customer isn't wrong in this situation, Like

542
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 2: if you're courting a vote, if you're trying to reach

543
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 2: somebody and and it doesn't work or people are put

544
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 2: off by it, you can't just be like, well, I'll

545
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 2: say what I said, that's not how voting works. And

546
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 2: we wouldn't let that happen with any other demographic or

547
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 2: when it did happen, if you lose, everybody's gonna go

548
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:22,679
Speaker 2: back and go, why did you do that?

549
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 1: You lost the election that day.

550
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 2: I just don't see the I don't see the positive

551
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:32,919
Speaker 2: aspect of this. So that's how I feel about that

552
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 2: shit that being said, Kamala Harris comes with the carrot, right,

553
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 2: So Obama was the stick.

554
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: She got the carrot. Now, I feel like that's political strategy.

555
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: I think that's smart.

556
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 3: I agree.

557
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 2: So she put out like a plan called I Believe

558
00:28:52,920 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 2: the Opportunity agenda for Black men and it's highlights, Like

559
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 2: I saw five major things in it.

560
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 1: Here. The five providing one million loans that are fully

561
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: forgivable for black entrepreneurs and others to start a business. Uh,

562
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: that and others is how you get it through. It's

563
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 1: how you get it through.

564
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 2: No, not Congress, it's how you get it through Supreme Court.

565
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 2: For those Yeah, yeah, I'm about to go through through

566
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 2: why it's written this way.

567
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: But also I'm gonna have to go through why. I

568
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: really don't think it's gonna matter.

569
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 2: But okay, so a million loans that are fully forgivable

570
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 2: for black entrepreneurs and others to start a business. My

571
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 2: guess is they just gonna give it to black people

572
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 2: and a handful of others, and and they'll just be like, listen,

573
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,239
Speaker 2: we didn't say only black people. So don't you know

574
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 2: the Heritage Foundation, when they do sue us about this,

575
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 2: will not be able to win, hopefully, But who knows

576
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 2: what this Supreme Court two championing education, training, and mentorship

577
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 2: programs to help black men get good paying jobs and

578
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 2: how the man industries that lead the communities, including pathways

579
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 2: to become teachers.

580
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: You mean, like my brother my brother's keepers.

581
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 2: You mean a program we already have that's been there

582
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 2: that these motherfuckers just have decided to ignore or be

583
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 2: ignorant of, or many many, many other plans that also

584
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 2: do this.

585
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: Like this is like, I'm not upset with the list.

586
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: I'm upset that.

587
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 2: This is bad faith trolling that has gotten to the

588
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 2: fucking White House.

589
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 3: Right.

590
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 2: Three supporting a regulatory framework for crypto currency and other

591
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 2: digital assets so black men who invest in and own

592
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 2: these assets are protected.

593
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: This one for me? Is it okay?

594
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 2: So it sounds worse than it is. First of all,

595
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 2: crypto being protected is more of a like, how we

596
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 2: can keep y'all from getting fucking scammed in the crypto

597
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 2: market because the crypto shit is mostly a.

598
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 1: Scam the wild wild West. Yeah. But three? Uh this

599
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: number three? Who are these niggas who asked for this?

600
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that rhetorically. Someone decided this was

601
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 2: the plan for black men. And it wasn't Kamala Harris,

602
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 2: it wasn't her team, nobody, somebody that has been complaining

603
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 2: this whole time, saying.

604
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: Y'all not doing enough for black men.

605
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 2: Sat they ass in the room with some demands and

606
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 2: one of the demands was fucking crypto.

607
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 3: You'm not trying to find out, not even fuk about crypto.

608
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: How is this serious?

609
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 3: Right?

610
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: This is not serious. This is a waste the fucking time.

611
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 2: It is. And that's something that that is not even

612
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 2: specific the black men. Every all these mother a lot

613
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 2: of white boy bro dudes.

614
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: Do to crypto. That's not a black man thing.

615
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 2: For watching a national health equity initiative focused on Black

616
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 2: men that addresses sickle cell disease, diabetes, mental health, prostate cancer,

617
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 2: and other health challenges that dispportunately impact them. Love that

618
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 2: that's actual, really cool. Reminds me of the black maternal

619
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 2: health thing. That's a great idea. How it's gonna work,

620
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 2: I don't know, but that's a great idea. Maybe it's PSAs,

621
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 2: Maybe it's changing the age of screening, maybe it's changing recommendations.

622
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 2: Something great could happen from that. That is real, That

623
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 2: is tangible, and I like that people. I'm sure people

624
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 2: are gonna dieplay that five. Legalizing recreational marijuana and creating

625
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 2: opportunities for black marriage succeed in this new industry that's

626
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 2: already on the agenda right. Legalizing marijuana has been on

627
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 2: their agenda for years at this point, for Democrats and

628
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 2: for Biden specifically, and now Kamala Harris. What that is

629
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 2: a direct result of is the misinformation about her where

630
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 2: people are like, you know, she locked up thousands of

631
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 2: black men for we and it's not true. That feels

632
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 2: like misinformation won. Misinformation made it far enough to the

633
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 2: White House that she now has to go. She has

634
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 2: to push something out that she already was doing. It

635
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 2: be like, but it's gonna help black men? Why is

636
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 2: it black men that helps everybody that's been locked up

637
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 2: for weed?

638
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: Everybody that smokes.

639
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 2: Weed, recreational weed is not just a black thing, you know,

640
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 2: think that's and it's only five of these, Thank god

641
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 2: child support isn't on there. But this is my problem

642
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 2: with the black male agenda.

643
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: Shit.

644
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 2: It either turns into stuff that they're already doing and

645
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 2: y'all just didn't do any fucking research and aren't aware

646
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 2: of which is on you, right, because it's not. If

647
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 2: I'm aware of it, you could be aware of it. Yes,

648
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 2: these are not secret programs. These are just things niggas

649
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 2: is mad about and don't fucking look up.

650
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 3: Right.

651
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: The second part of.

652
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 2: This that bothers me is two or three of these

653
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 2: feel like bad faith lies, Like the cryptocurrency.

654
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 3: Thing, like why is this even on the table?

655
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: The marijuana thing is not.

656
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 2: That's that's it turns into these weird stereotypes. It's like

657
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 2: when it's like when there's a contingent of black men

658
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 2: out there that are very vocal online and they say

659
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 2: they want the and who knows how many these are

660
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 2: real people, real accounts. I just know this is what

661
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 2: we see. They keep going, we want like child support

662
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 2: amnesty or something.

663
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: Do you hear yourself? That's the black man agenda. The

664
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: black man agenda.

665
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 3: Is you look terrible.

666
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 2: Paying child support is not a thing a black man

667
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 2: should have to do for his fucking kid.

668
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 4: And black men, out of all the men, they are

669
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 4: like number one when it comes to like may within

670
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 4: their race. They number one are like being president in

671
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 4: their children's lives, you know, like like they actually are

672
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,760
Speaker 4: number one. So it's the same thing because it's fucking

673
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 4: small ass ain't shit, niggas, that's fucking complaining.

674
00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: Yeah no, like I said, it's like non paid.

675
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 2: It goes into detail, but these are the five that

676
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 2: they've highlighted.

677
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 1: It's on the first page.

678
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 2: It really goes into how bad Donald Trump is and whatnot,

679
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 2: and it goes into details like it's not just a

680
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 2: nebulous you know, providing one million loans that are fully

681
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 2: forgiveable up to twenty thousand dollars for black entrepreneurs and

682
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 2: others who have historically faced barriers to start a new

683
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 2: business or growing in existing business in partnership with trusted

684
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,479
Speaker 2: organizations like mission driven lenders and banks with the proven

685
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 2: commitment to their communities. Like this is something we're a

686
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 2: small business, we're a black owned business, or something maybe

687
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 2: we got for some reason goo, we need a twenty

688
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 2: thousand dollars loan that's fully fucking forgivable, and we can

689
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 2: get a studio and a producer and we can fucking

690
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 2: get multi camera set up and all this shit, right,

691
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 2: I mean, like that could really help a lot of people.

692
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 1: That's not necessarily something that is just pie in the sky.

693
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: But it's the fact that one, some of these programs

694
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: have existed already. But two, it's not a black male

695
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: specific thing.

696
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 2: And so a large part of this has been the

697
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 2: denial of black men to accept that what uplifts the

698
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 2: black community uplifts us.

699
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 1: Yes, and that is where we get to seeing ourselves.

700
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 2: As a part from the community and not a part

701
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 2: of the community. This is the crux of when I

702
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 2: was talking about the white men of the community, like

703
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 2: seeing ourselves the white people. This is kind of the

704
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 2: crux of that entitlement. I'm not saying that it's the

705
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 2: same as a white person blah blah blah, but my

706
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 2: point being the entitlement of.

707
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: Things that help our community don't help us.

708
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 2: Right, So black maternal health somehow doesn't help black men,

709
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 2: but it helps black women.

710
00:36:56,160 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 1: That's not true. Who's born from black women, who's married

711
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: to black women, who's fathering these children with black women?

712
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,720
Speaker 1: Who wants to see these mothers alive, these sisters alive,

713
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 1: these wives, these girlfriends, who wants to see them alive?

714
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 2: For a large part, it's us, yes, sir, so to

715
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 2: see something like that and be like, but what about

716
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 2: me is kind of weird to me not to There's

717
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 2: some dudes that are now more on board a fuck it.

718
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 2: I'll just say names, Roland Martin, Bacari, Sellers. I love

719
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,240
Speaker 2: to see how much they're on board with Kamala Harris,

720
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 2: I think I love to see it. But there was

721
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 2: a time when they weren't necessarily on board, and I remember,

722
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 2: you know, being a bit miffed with their like obsession

723
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 2: with like, but what about the black men?

724
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I'm not sure how to tell.

725
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 2: You this, but when you see, when we saw Barack

726
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 2: Obama winning, we weren't spending all this time doing a

727
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 2: bunch of like, but what about the black women shit?

728
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 2: And honestly, when a black woman brought that shit up,

729
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 2: we acted like they were the enemy somehow, like what

730
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 2: the fuck are you doing?

731
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 3: Right?

732
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 2: And so now the shoes on the other foot, and

733
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:07,479
Speaker 2: everyone's kind of acting accordingly the other way, where now

734
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 2: it's like, well, what about the black men? And people

735
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 2: are like, what the fuck are you talking about? You're

736
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 2: the enemy right now. I'm not saying that the enemy.

737
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 2: I think that's going too far. But to not be

738
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 2: able to see that her policies that benefit black communities

739
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 2: will ultimately benefit black men as well feels like almost

740
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,720
Speaker 2: like a willful misunderstanding.

741
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 1: Because I can't understand.

742
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 2: How you could arrive at that, and the fact that

743
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 2: they don't misunderstand it anymore. Now that she's given Roland

744
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 2: Martin an interview, now that she is the presidential candidate.

745
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 2: Now that Bacardie Seller seems to be working with the campaign,

746
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess it's more easy for those dudes

747
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 2: to come around because they kind of have more access

748
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 2: than they had on the outside. Looking in, A lot

749
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,240
Speaker 2: of this conversation is actually about access, but it's taking

750
00:38:58,239 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 2: the plat it's.

751
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: Looking like it's about politics, but it's not.

752
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 2: And that's not that's not a disc I think black

753
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 2: a lot of independent black media spaces need access and

754
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 2: should be getting it and we haven't been and it's

755
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 2: not fair. And like there's there's there's black radio stations.

756
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 2: There's a bunch of stuff that black people could be

757
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 2: getting from this campaign that they aren't.

758
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 1: And this campaign raised the.

759
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 2: Most money ever, so there's not a lack of resources

760
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 2: to put money into these black spaces to make to

761
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 2: get ads, to do interviews and all that stuff. So

762
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 2: I this is not me trying to make it sound

763
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 2: shady like they just mad they didn't get access. Look

764
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 2: if they can find time to fucking help the breakfast

765
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 2: club or some shit, or to advertise on white podcast networks,

766
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:40,720
Speaker 2: I don't know why they can't.

767
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: Do it for black podcast networks.

768
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 2: To me, it makes no sense, and it wouldn't toss

769
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 2: as much money and it wouldn't take any time. So

770
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 2: if I can look on my fucking TV screen to

771
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,919
Speaker 2: see twelve ads, one of them, they could they could

772
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:59,240
Speaker 2: be doing this. So anyway, my point being like, these

773
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 2: plans to help will never look completely like and only

774
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 2: for black.

775
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,399
Speaker 3: Men, right You're not going to get that.

776
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 4: I do not know what people do not understand the

777
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 4: way things are set up now, the way the Supreme

778
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 4: Court is set up now, the way they keep fucking

779
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 4: shooting down everything that has anything to do with anything

780
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 4: that actually is specific to a group right now, you

781
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 4: have to make this shit as vague as possible, purposefully

782
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 4: and strategically if you want the people that you want

783
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 4: help to help. And it's very very frustrating for me

784
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 4: to sit back and sometimes I'm like, how dumb are you?

785
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 4: Like like I had to be like this, like how

786
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 4: dumb are you? Are you paying any attention to the climate?

787
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 4: Are you paying any intention of what's going on? Are

788
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 4: you paying any attention of the shit that's being taken

789
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 4: taken to the Supreme Court and fucking shot down?

790
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:53,280
Speaker 3: Are you paying attention?

791
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 4: Because if you are, you would understand that it's a

792
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 4: strategy behind the things that they do.

793
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 3: And that's what my frustration comes in.

794
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 4: Even when Barack Obama was in office, they requested this

795
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 4: same thing.

796
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 3: Why it doesn't make sense.

797
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 2: Well, also, that's another part is problem is bad faith

798
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 2: people are being mixed in with good faith people and

799
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 2: that can't really be unclouded. Right now, the bad faith

800
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 2: people are going to always find a reason to not

801
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 2: vote for Kamala Harris. And another thing, I think people

802
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 2: just haven't. I think there's a contingent of good faith people,

803
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 2: not just black men, people who believed in Barack Obama

804
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 2: to some sort of almost deity degree in my opinion,

805
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 2: or some like a sainted figure. And Barack Obama will

806
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 2: not see it this way because he's in it. But

807
00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 2: the enthusiasm of two thousand and eight wouldn't even be

808
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 2: here for him, Meaning if he was the candidate.

809
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: Running right now in twenty twenty four, it wouldn't.

810
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 2: It might be about the most you could hope for

811
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 2: is a Kamala Harris level of enthusiasm, and I don't

812
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 2: and I'm not.

813
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: Sure he could achieve that.

814
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,760
Speaker 2: Right now, she has literally raised the most money ever

815
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 2: and she keeps breaking the goal, and she keeps raising

816
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 2: money fast. Like even at this juncture where we're less

817
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 2: than a month out, momentum feels like it's slowing. Is

818
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 2: the money in the and the and the campaign is

819
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 2: not slowing. So I think he's and he might be,

820
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 2: you know, I don't think he's wrong. Like I said,

821
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 2: I agree with a lot of what he said. I

822
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 2: don't think he's wrong that there's a contingent of brothers

823
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 2: that just see a black woman and go fuck that.

824
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 2: I've heard black men say as much so, So I'm

825
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 2: not gonna sit up here and cry Pollyanna instead of

826
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,879
Speaker 2: a gas light and pretend that that's not part of it.

827
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 2: It's a part of it. I've seen people be like,

828
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 2: black women ain't never gonna win. Wat should you run?

829
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 1: You know?

830
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 2: Like I've seen those comments, you know, I've seen, you know,

831
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 2: the lies that were focused on her being a black woman,

832
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 2: meaning you can't trust her.

833
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 1: If she was a black man you could. I've seen

834
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 1: that shit. But there is this.

835
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,760
Speaker 2: I think lack of acknowledgment from Obama that his star

836
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:20,280
Speaker 2: is not as bright as it was, and for many

837
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 2: different reasons. I'm not even saying self inflict. I think

838
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 2: it's just literally, you.

839
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: Had to go do the job.

840
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 2: Running for the job fun, doing the job not so

841
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 2: fucking fun. Right now, you have a track record where

842
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 2: people can stick shit to you and be like, hey,

843
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 2: you didn't do this, you did do that.

844
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 1: So I just think that that part is interesting for

845
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: it as well. But yeah, this agenda whatever, I don't

846
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 1: think it's going to satisfy the troll people. I think.

847
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 2: It sounds more to me like the worst voices got

848
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 2: fed and I don't like that.

849
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: I don't like that.

850
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 2: At this moment, when unveiling something like this should have

851
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 2: felt like a It should feel like a yes, like

852
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 2: a like a that's what I'm talking about. We let

853
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:20,240
Speaker 2: we have the support of this administration, and we're supporting

854
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 2: this administration, and we're gonna help this candidate win and

855
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 2: this is and she's gonna help us when she gets

856
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 2: in office.

857
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: That's how this moment should feel.

858
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 2: When you unveil something like this, we should all be like,

859
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 2: that's what I'm talking about. Instead, it feels like ice

860
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 2: Cube one, you know, like he has for the fucking

861
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 2: Platinum Plan and she gave her version of the Platinum Plan,

862
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 2: and these motherfuckers are not gonna read it and they

863
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 2: still gonna say I ain't voting for That's how it

864
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 2: feels to me.

865
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:48,399
Speaker 3: Agreed, and.

866
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 4: Is one of those things where I think for a

867
00:44:55,360 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 4: lot of people that were kind of anti her, you know,

868
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 4: before she know she got the position, and things like that,

869
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 4: I also think for some of them, particularly in the media,

870
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 4: spear and things like that, I also think a lot

871
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 4: of them almost like the Cornell West thing, they wanted approval,

872
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 4: Like it's like, oh, if you're gonna do these things,

873
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 4: you got quote unquote go through me, Like I am

874
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 4: the one that you know, should be speaking on your behalf,

875
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 4: and if I don't speak on your behalf, you're not

876
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 4: quote unquote validated in the black community because I am.

877
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 1: Not the one speaking on your behalf.

878
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 4: I am not the one with the microphone in my face,

879
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 4: so you know, I am not the one getting accolades

880
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,399
Speaker 4: for helping quote unquote push put you and push you

881
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 4: into this position, you know. And I think the same

882
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 4: thing with Obama's like people actually are under the illusion,

883
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 4: in my opinion, that all these fucking ridiculous ass demands

884
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 4: actually validate them, and and and and gives them a

885
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 4: feeling of self assurance and give them a a I'm

886
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 4: better than y'all, you know, type of thing.

887
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 5: And it's very frustrating, and I'm you know, I'm trying

888
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 5: not to say anything that is too inflammatory, but.

889
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:23,720
Speaker 1: They're it's like people a little focused on the fucking

890
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 1: picture so easy, and I feel like Twitter aids in that,

891
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 1: and I fight my hardest to not contribute to that.

892
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 1: But like, god damn, there are Republicans that understand this

893
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: moment more than some of my fellow voters. They're supposed

894
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 1: to be voting Democrats, Like, how the fuck do they

895
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: get it?

896
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 2: And you don't, Right, Dick Cheney get it, and you

897
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 2: don't Heraldo Rivera gets it and you don't like this.

898
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 2: I don't understand why why you think it's still there's

899
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 2: time to play, to macinate.

900
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 3: There's not.

901
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: It's just get down or lay down. Do we want

902
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 1: to win or not? Come through the fucking portal.

903
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 2: You see on your left cap. That's all we have

904
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 2: time for. We don't have time for a this. And so,

905
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 2: like I said, ultimately that's what my disappointment in Obama's

906
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 2: comments are. It's not I don't give a fuck about Listen,

907
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 2: I can't speak for these other people, these other dudes,

908
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 2: and maybe maybe somehow I'm just so fucking much mentally

909
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 2: tougher than these people.

910
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: I don't think that's what it is.

911
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 2: I don't know when I tell you not offending. The

912
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 2: police could not get angry about this. Do not give

913
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 2: a fuck about that shit that The comments mean nothing

914
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 2: to me. I've heard them before. I don't even disagree

915
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 2: when it comes to certain type of brothers.

916
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: He's absolutely on point, and some brothers maybe they needed

917
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 1: to hear. I don't know. The problem is the moment

918
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:00,720
Speaker 1: that it's created out of it.

919
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 2: This is just a big ass distraction, a big ass

920
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 2: momentum bomb that just goes into the middle of this

921
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 2: what was essentially a party, a coronation, a bunch of

922
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 2: people coming together that weren't even supposed to be on

923
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 2: the same side, who decided, Yo, we're in this, we're

924
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,919
Speaker 2: gonna we're gonna win this for each other.

925
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 1: Like even if you are one of these people that

926
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 1: think she's.

927
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 2: Not a good candidate, well how she was getting good

928
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 2: better in these polls, she was doing better with the

929
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 2: money raising. Why because people were doing it for each

930
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 2: other then, And honestly, that's what the fuck y'all should

931
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:38,839
Speaker 2: have been on the whole time. It should have never

932
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 2: been about one transformative figure. That's what the fuck is

933
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,439
Speaker 2: wrong with American politics as is. It's what the fuck

934
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 2: is wrong with American voters as is. I don't subscribe

935
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,240
Speaker 2: to it. I don't really give a fuck about people

936
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 2: that subscribe to it. I do look down on people

937
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 2: that just believe that type of shit, mostly because it's

938
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 2: like saying you believe you're going to Vegas and you're

939
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 2: gonna hit the lottery, or it's like you believe in

940
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 2: the shell game, that the fucking that the marble is

941
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 2: under one of the shells, you're playing a rig game.

942
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 1: That's not what that is.

943
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 2: You can't you believing in the game is and how

944
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 2: you win the game. And so I don't mind the

945
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 2: idea of people feeling.

946
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: Enthusiastic, excited or whatever, but in the moments like this

947
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: when you should be able to see a bigger picture

948
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 1: and be like, man, fuck that shit. He said something

949
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 1: I don't agree with. I'm moving on. He or he

950
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,240
Speaker 1: could have said that he could articulate it different or better.

951
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 1: I'm moving on.

952
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 2: That's how I did. Like, I just brushed it off.

953
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 2: I was like he said, what, okay, let.

954
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 1: Me go play the clments. Okay.

955
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 2: Interesting that where it cuts off. I still haven't heard

956
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,760
Speaker 2: the entire club. It cuts off right when he starts

957
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 2: saying something positive about the brothers in that room. I

958
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 2: do find that interesting, and I do I do think

959
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 2: a little bit less of the people who get led astray,

960
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 2: because how many fucking times do we have to go

961
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 2: through someone's showing us a part of something out of

962
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 2: out of complete context, and we just run out and

963
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 2: do their bidding for them.

964
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: But but but I'm not.

965
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 2: I think it's totally reasonable that those people got upset

966
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 2: with what they saw. I think it's totally reasonable to

967
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 2: feel a way about what he said. It's like I said,

968
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 2: I don't like it myself, but mostly I don't like

969
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 2: it because we got to this moment and now we're

970
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:24,280
Speaker 2: not talking about honestly, we're not even really.

971
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 1: Talking about policies. These policies they drop, they're already moving

972
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: a gold post, so they don't care. It was not

973
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: about the policy.

974
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 4: No, no, it really was not. And you know my

975
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 4: thing is, I'm with you. It is very very simple

976
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 4: to me. And when you try to make shit simple,

977
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 4: I think people purposely complicate shit on purpose, Like when

978
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 4: I'm be like, do you want to win a not?

979
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 4: But I don't like do you want to win a not?

980
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 4: But she didn't do do you want to win or not?

981
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 4: But they didn't hit do you want.

982
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 3: To win a not?

983
00:50:58,120 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 4: Like like at the end of the day, like like

984
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 4: that's the foundation, you know, they were like Republicans are

985
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 4: supporting her, don't give a fuck do you want to

986
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 4: win or not? After the election, it goes back to

987
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 4: fuck them. They're not getting any any positions of power.

988
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 4: They're not running anything or any of that shit.

989
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 3: Do you want to win or not?

990
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 1: What's honest, don't caring if they give positions of power.

991
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 1: Guess who that's on. It'll be on us as voters.

992
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 2: Right because if you send her to fucking to president

993
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 2: and she wins, but we send her with fucking fifty

994
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 2: two Republicans or in the Senate and still a vast

995
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 2: majority of Republicans in the in the Congress, in the House,

996
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 2: guess what, you just did the same thing you did

997
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 2: to Barack Obama. Like it like, I don't know there's

998
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 2: a big picture shit that's happening. I don't see people

999
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 2: doing And look like I said, I don't bang on

1000
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 2: Obama like most motherfuckers, you know, like like a lot

1001
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 2: of people do. I actually find them to be a

1002
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 2: very I think he was still the best president I've

1003
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 2: ever seen. I still think he did that job scandal free.

1004
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 2: I still think he did that job exactly as he

1005
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,760
Speaker 2: said he would do it. I don't wherever this's whole

1006
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:14,320
Speaker 2: like disappointment and whatever.

1007
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 1: I think was a lot of projection.

1008
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 2: Onto him, and I don't like I don't have the

1009
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 2: issues with him that other people have.

1010
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 1: And that's fine. They can think less of me for

1011
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: that shit.

1012
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 2: But I guess what the point the finger pointing right

1013
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 2: back at your ass, I think less of you. That

1014
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 2: being said tonight, he tweeted a couple hours ago at

1015
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 2: Kamala Harris has a plan that will lift up black

1016
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 2: men in their family. She laid out some ways to

1017
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 2: give black men the tools to build well, achieve financial freedom,

1018
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 2: lower costs. Read the plan Kamala Harris dot COM's like agenda.

1019
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 2: That's all they need to be said. That's all they

1020
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 2: need to be said. We don't we And I'll say

1021
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 2: this as an example myself. I can spend this whole

1022
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 2: podcast every fucking day banging on that eight to fifteen

1023
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 2: percent of black men who are fucking Trump or not voting,

1024
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 2: or hotels or FBA or whatever.

1025
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 1: I could do that every day. I have the fire

1026
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 1: in me, and I am always ready to pull the

1027
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 1: trigger on these niggas. Yep. But honestly, it ain't fruitful.

1028
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 2: Like there's so many these niggas who have written in

1029
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:24,840
Speaker 2: our show or left a comment or something.

1030
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 1: I ain't reading them. I'm blocking them from our YouTube, yep.

1031
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:29,919
Speaker 1: I don't unders.

1032
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 2: If I can do it, then I don't see why

1033
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 2: someone that is trying to help her win the presidency

1034
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,720
Speaker 2: can't see that too. We can't give these guys oxygen

1035
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 2: because oxygen fees their fire. They're not good faith people.

1036
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 2: They're not going to hear you out and go well,

1037
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 2: thank you. I just wasn't thinking of it that way.

1038
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:49,919
Speaker 3: I don't care.

1039
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 2: They're just gonna use your comments as fuel to breed more.

1040
00:53:55,480 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 2: Whether it's disinformation, whether it's eroding the morale of people

1041
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:04,320
Speaker 2: who are excited, whether it's and now's my chance to

1042
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:07,919
Speaker 2: get in my long list of critiques on just the Democrats.

1043
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 2: It just helps them, and I don't want to help

1044
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 2: them in any way, Ever, you know they already got

1045
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:19,800
Speaker 2: enough bullshit with their like soapbox, privileged ass, livid pie,

1046
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 2: and the sky as bullshit, because it's not even like

1047
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 2: these motherfuckers complaining are the working class people they talking about.

1048
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 1: Everybody represents the working class.

1049
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 2: When they want to talk critically about Democrats, they always

1050
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 2: pull that bullshit out of their pocket. But at the

1051
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 2: end of the fucking day, you're not driving the bus, bro,

1052
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 2: you got it, you made it. You're now using the

1053
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 2: people on the bus against her. That's the same thing

1054
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:45,359
Speaker 2: Charlamagne does. I'm not saying this dumb, ignorant shit and misinformation.

1055
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 2: It's what people think in the barbershops.

1056
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 1: Well, nigga, you're not in the barbershop act accordingly, so

1057
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna come on here and promote that shit either.

1058
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 1: But so my point.

1059
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:58,439
Speaker 2: Being, I don't think it's even fruitful to give these

1060
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:02,240
Speaker 2: guys that much such attention. There are so many coons

1061
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:03,959
Speaker 2: and so little time. I could be on this show

1062
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 2: pulling up clips of someone telling best why I'll vote

1063
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 2: for Trump. Every fucking day, we could be on here

1064
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,439
Speaker 2: with several of these people, But you know what they

1065
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 2: want that shit. Yes, the the anger and the outrage

1066
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 2: is nothing but a click to them, sharing them, lifting

1067
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 2: them up is nothing but a clip. And when I

1068
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 2: see these five points, when I see Barack Obama do

1069
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 2: that speech, it pisces me off only because I not

1070
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 2: because of to me, those trolls got the biggest oxygen

1071
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 2: in the campaign. They got the most attention they're gonna get.

1072
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 2: And now here we are going there on our timelines,

1073
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 2: their their clips are being shared, they're making speeches, they're

1074
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 2: they're you know what I'm saying that they now have

1075
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 2: a bigger platform to erode goodwill than they had before

1076
00:55:55,840 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 2: they were essentially being ignored, sleeping, or just not relevant.

1077
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 2: And somehow we have pulled this campaign down into this bullshit.

1078
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,359
Speaker 1: She's going on the shave room. I think she may

1079
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 1: have already done it, and I'm not.

1080
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 2: I think once again, I think what she's doing with

1081
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,879
Speaker 2: this campaign is savvy. I think going on the shave

1082
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 2: room is actually really fucking smart.

1083
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 1: And the reason I think is really.

1084
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 2: Call her daddy, but the same, but the actually is

1085
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,320
Speaker 2: different than call her daddy. For me, the reason I

1086
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 2: think this is smart the shave room has been one

1087
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 2: of the biggest anti Democrat candidate propagadas of propagators of

1088
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:43,319
Speaker 2: misinformation and just outright Trump right wing talking points. It's

1089
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 2: been a fucking shame. They're they're transphobic, they're uh, anti woman,

1090
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 2: they're everything. They're everything that I think is wrong with

1091
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 2: the Internet. But you know how, you know why the

1092
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 2: shave room is so huge because motherfuckers won't stop sharing it,

1093
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 2: and so you could either. And I've seen people make

1094
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:07,399
Speaker 2: this argument of well, just ignore them. I actually think

1095
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 2: you're wrong at this point. And it's not because to

1096
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 2: ignore them would make her basically in denial of reality.

1097
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 2: Black people online have decided these motherfuckers are winning, that

1098
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 2: they are a new source. Yes, And the thing is,

1099
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 2: these amateur outfit motherfuckers are not prepared to sit a

1100
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 2: competent candidate in the sit there right in her face

1101
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 2: and deliver them Trump talking points. This will be the

1102
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 2: second or third time All the Smoke is one of

1103
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 2: these groups. These guys too. I know some people like them.

1104
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's nothing bad about them, and when

1105
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 2: it comes to just basketball and shit, but they've they've

1106
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 2: said some hotelian ass weird shit on that show before,

1107
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 2: but they couldn't do it in her face. They was

1108
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 2: looking at her in the eyes, smiling and asked out

1109
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 2: the such she becomes real asking layup ask questions because

1110
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 2: they're not really trained or informed enough to do that job.

1111
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 2: But they have enough integrity and they're grateful enough for

1112
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 2: the access that they won't do what Charlamagne does, which

1113
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 2: is also be uninformed but bad faith try to get

1114
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 2: a viral moment.

1115
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 1: I think the Shade Room's gonna be the same way

1116
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 1: when she's sitting down with that dude.

1117
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 2: He's gonna be so happy to have his profile rage

1118
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 2: and be acknowledged by a bio legitimate candidate rather than

1119
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 2: just whatever however he gets paid to do that Trump

1120
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 2: bullshit and to spread the negativity that always goes viral.

1121
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 1: He's gonna be so happy to sit across from her.

1122
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 2: He's gonna do a layup and honestly, that space doing

1123
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:48,959
Speaker 2: a layup interview and those clips being on there, even

1124
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 2: with the comments probably being ignorant as fuck, is better

1125
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 2: for her campaign than what the fuck was happening before,

1126
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 2: trying not to acknowledge them as they just spread lives

1127
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 2: like Trump gave us Trump checks and and body and

1128
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 2: Harris did nothing for us, and the economy is terrible.

1129
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 2: So in those ways, I don't mind it, because what

1130
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 2: did I say when we started this, I'm not emotional

1131
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 2: about this shit When it comes to this, I'm pragmatic.

1132
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 1: I want to win. That's a winning fucking move to me.

1133
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 1: What does it say about our society at large?

1134
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 3: Nothing?

1135
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 1: Nothing good? Nothing good?

1136
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 2: You know, this is Obama in two thousand and eight

1137
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 2: figuring out to use social media and use email like

1138
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 2: am I does it say something? It says something savvy

1139
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 2: about his campaign, but it says something bad about the

1140
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 2: state of our electorate. When you need one hundred and

1141
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 2: forty character tweaked to convince you who to vote for

1142
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 2: and it works, it does say something bad that we're

1143
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 2: not rigorous anymore. We're not We're not researched anymore, We're

1144
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 2: not learned anymore. We're not willing to go and do

1145
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 2: look at something long form anymore.

1146
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 1: We're looking for.

1147
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 2: Screenshots, memes and pictures. But god damn it, if that's

1148
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 2: what the fuck people are doing make it work, then

1149
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 2: go make that shit work. I'm not gonna sit here

1150
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 2: and complain about Kamala Harrison talking to podcast because in

1151
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 2: the meantime, you know, all she did go on sixty minutes.

1152
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 2: Know all she's doing going on Fox News, so she's

1153
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 2: talking to other journalists too. So let's not try to

1154
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 2: turn this into some like cherry picking just the bad

1155
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 2: shit you don't like. She's covering all the bases because

1156
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 2: she got the energy to do it. Unlike Trump and

1157
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 2: unlike Biden, she can put the pedal to the metal

1158
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 2: and be campaign in twenty four to seven.

1159
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:27,919
Speaker 1: All the time.

1160
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 2: Yes, because she's younger, Yeah, she's younger, and she don't

1161
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 2: have to run the country right now. So I mean,

1162
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:35,479
Speaker 2: I put it this way, if she loses, it won't

1163
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 2: be for lack of trying and innovation.

1164
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 1: It'll mostly be.

1165
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 2: For a lack of us, US not focused on the

1166
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 2: bigger picture, US choosing our selfishness over her, choosing her

1167
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 2: selfishness over the country, choosing our selfishness, trying to what

1168
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 2: teach Democrats or lesson or some shit. I don't even

1169
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 2: know what the fuck that means. Mean, it'll be our

1170
01:00:57,120 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 2: failure if she does not win. And Barack Obama's comments aside,

1171
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 2: I shouldn't even say a side, even in copper contexts

1172
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:12,920
Speaker 2: and everything. If mentally, I if you can't just move

1173
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 2: past that I don't even understand what you think this

1174
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 2: election is about.

1175
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 4: It's fine and also something else I realized too before

1176
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 4: we move on. A lot of people are easily distracted.

1177
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 4: I've kind of realized that it's a oop squirrel, oop squirrel,

1178
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 4: not squirrel, but o his nub ooh cookie, cookie, cookie,

1179
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 4: Like their minds are kind of all over the place

1180
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 4: because it's hard for people to focus on I just

1181
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 4: want to win. It's like anytime anything happens outside of that,

1182
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 4: A lot of times I am like, Okay, it happened,

1183
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 4: and it's not gonna chay my vote, not gonna change

1184
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:52,959
Speaker 4: what I'm gonna do any of that shit.

1185
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 3: I'm still gonna vote for her.

1186
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 1: But a lot of.

1187
01:01:55,760 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 4: People are easily distracted, and they love the distractions because

1188
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 4: when you distract it, you don't have to really educate yourself.

1189
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 3: When you're distracted, you don't really have to learn about.

1190
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 4: The policies of the procedures. You can be very ignorant

1191
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 4: when you're distracted. Like like, and I also think a

1192
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 4: lot of people like to be distracted because there's no

1193
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 4: requirements of you when you're distracting, when you're off doing

1194
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 4: other shit other than registering to vote, talking to you

1195
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 4: found and friends, you know, pushing and telling the people

1196
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 4: that you know, this out here being stupid, you know, family, friends,

1197
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 4: and not just shut the fuck up and vote. That

1198
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 4: requires work, but it doesn't require a lot of effort

1199
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 4: in or energy and to indulge yourself in these things

1200
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 4: that are distractions that at the end of the day

1201
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 4: won't fucking make a difference because you know what, and

1202
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 4: forty eight to you know, seventy two hours, nobody give

1203
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 4: a fuck about Barack Obama's comment and we're gonna all

1204
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:51,919
Speaker 4: move on.

1205
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll I'm not gonna get into the internet study

1206
01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 2: today because I want to wrap this up, but I'll

1207
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 2: just say this kind of close it out. Is the

1208
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 2: big picture is still the big picture. This document is

1209
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 2: nine pages. You can google it, you can search it.

1210
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 2: It's on her website. Like I said, I think it's

1211
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:18,959
Speaker 2: Kamla harris dot com slash agenda. Send this to your

1212
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 2: black men that are detractors, black men that were so

1213
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 2: turned off by Obama's comments. Well, Obama's not running, he

1214
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 2: is not you're not voting for him a third time.

1215
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 2: This is Kamala Harris's campaign, and this is what she

1216
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 2: had to say when she goes on all the smoke

1217
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 2: and talks to black men, when she goes on the

1218
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 2: shave room, share those clips. Okay, this is what y'all

1219
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 2: want it. I think she's being a great candidate by

1220
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 2: addressing this because much like going on the shaveroom, I

1221
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 2: feel like she has to meet people where they are

1222
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 2: where black men are.

1223
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 1: Not all of them, but enough of them are.

1224
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:58,440
Speaker 2: Is in this weird orange folded she not like us,

1225
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 2: as she ain't even black thing. There's too many prominent

1226
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 2: black male voices that are getting too much traction saying.

1227
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 1: Stuff about her.

1228
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 2: And if her campaign saw this as a weakness that

1229
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 2: needs to be addressed, fine, because honestly, I've come full

1230
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 2: circle on it by the time we started to Now

1231
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 2: if her, if we're gonna look at going to get

1232
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 2: Republican voters as important, then this is what I want

1233
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 2: the campaign to do for that two percent of black

1234
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 2: men that are to hold out, like the two percent

1235
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 2: of the electorate, but the eight percent of black men

1236
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 2: or whatever, Yeah, go get them. Then maybe this will

1237
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 2: convince some of them. I hope it does.

1238
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 3: I hope it does.

1239
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 2: So if this is if they're being genuine and good faith,

1240
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 2: and this is the effort reading about how she's gonna

1241
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 2: help with employment and loans and.

1242
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 1: Digital assets and whatnot.

1243
01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 2: If that's gonna be if you're gonna go read that

1244
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 2: and it's gonna change your mind or inform you good

1245
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 2: because at the end of the day, everybody wants their.

1246
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 1: It's funny.

1247
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 2: I was talking to the home the other day and

1248
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 2: he texted me and said, you know, looking at some

1249
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 2: of the discussion he was talking about the WNBA, but

1250
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 2: it's like, looking at some discussion around the WNBA, I

1251
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 2: think you were onto something, but now it's everybody wants

1252
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 2: to be the white people of whatever group of people

1253
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 2: they are now. I think this is in reference to

1254
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 2: like some of the ways that black people were like

1255
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 2: bemoaning and decrying, like they not just Kately Clark, but

1256
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:46,200
Speaker 2: like even if a media person just acknowledged like yeah,

1257
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 2: she's the rookie of the year or she's it was

1258
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 2: like yeah, yeah, there was a certain level of like

1259
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 2: animosity towards people that were just saying to me factual

1260
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 2: things that weren't really about picking aside.

1261
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 1: And he was like, how greedy is everybody getting that that?

1262
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 2: Like they don't even want someone to acknowledged something truthful

1263
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 2: like this, Oh she's the first week get to do this,

1264
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 2: and they get and they're in the comments mad about it,

1265
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:15,439
Speaker 2: right right, And I said, you know, I do still

1266
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:17,560
Speaker 2: regret the way I said that because of how it

1267
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 2: singled out, but the sentiment is real, and what it

1268
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 2: is is in their own way. I think subconsciously, in America,

1269
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 2: everybody wants to be white. And I don't mean they

1270
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 2: want to be white people everybody because because America is

1271
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:40,920
Speaker 2: built on this hierarchy, with this lie that whiteness runs

1272
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:47,960
Speaker 2: everything at its core, everybody in America sees that. And

1273
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 2: once you see whiteness at work, the concept, not.

1274
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 3: The people, right, the concept.

1275
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 2: Once you see it at work, you realize there's really

1276
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 2: not an a better way to succeed in America. It's

1277
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 2: why Asian people were down with the pulling affirmative action

1278
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 2: from college admissions because it was a way where Asian

1279
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 2: people could be white. It was why Cubans vote Republican

1280
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:22,880
Speaker 2: because they've been promised a level of whiteness. That's why

1281
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:26,720
Speaker 2: certain Latino people that are white passing are like, I

1282
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:29,440
Speaker 2: don't know, Mario Lopez, I'm gonna roll with this whiteness.

1283
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 2: I'm finn to ride this Lopez shit out. Lopez ain't

1284
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:36,920
Speaker 2: doing that good for me. But the motherfucking Mario is hidden,

1285
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:46,080
Speaker 2: you know. And so whiteness is about emotions becoming stronger

1286
01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 2: than fact. And in this voting process. I've said many times.

1287
01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 1: That white people are basically the only people whose feelings

1288
01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:01,360
Speaker 1: get to be facts in America. They feel the economy

1289
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:04,120
Speaker 1: is bad. We write and talk about the economy as

1290
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:05,280
Speaker 1: being bad, right.

1291
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:08,520
Speaker 4: Even though statistically everybody's looking like, dog, I'm doing the

1292
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:11,360
Speaker 4: best I ever have, Like you know, you know, no,

1293
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 4: it ain't perfect, but you know, we.

1294
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:17,719
Speaker 2: Don't and we don't question why they get that conclusion, right,

1295
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:19,840
Speaker 2: We don't want to say, so what is it? And

1296
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 2: then they go because I see brown people getting jobs,

1297
01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:27,080
Speaker 2: I see immigrants in the country. Yeah, sure, my salaries

1298
01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 2: high as it were as supposed to be. Sure, eggs

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01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:32,639
Speaker 2: and gas have come down the prices I can afford.

1300
01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 2: But I don't feel like I'm winning on this whiteness anymore. Right,

1301
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:41,800
Speaker 2: the economy is bad to.

1302
01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:44,000
Speaker 3: Me, right that I can't cash in on it.

1303
01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:46,760
Speaker 2: And we can recognize that in white folk, like we go,

1304
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:49,680
Speaker 2: that's a bad thing, that's not real, that's messed up.

1305
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:52,160
Speaker 2: We don't like when our politicians panted to it, right,

1306
01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:56,840
Speaker 2: A lot of us don't, But damned if that ain't

1307
01:08:56,880 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 2: what everybody wants, yes, like so not. I see when

1308
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 2: I see some of the like black male detractors, it

1309
01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 2: feels like I want that feeling that whatever I ask

1310
01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:18,719
Speaker 2: you for is something you're gonna at least acknowledge as good.

1311
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:20,519
Speaker 1: So even if.

1312
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:23,080
Speaker 2: Someone says something like I don't want to pay child support,

1313
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:26,639
Speaker 2: I want you to acknowledge that like a real fucking task,

1314
01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:30,799
Speaker 2: like a real ask, like it's legitimate. And if you don't,

1315
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:37,920
Speaker 2: fuck you, that's whiteness. To me, that's that's greed, because

1316
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 2: that's not a thing anyone.

1317
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:42,720
Speaker 1: Should have, regardless of race. You know, it's you know so.

1318
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:44,800
Speaker 2: And I don't even I'm not trying to do this

1319
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:47,760
Speaker 2: to single out black man specifically. I think, like I

1320
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 2: just said, Asian people like obviously in the past, Italians.

1321
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:54,519
Speaker 1: Weren't considered white, Irish weren't considered white.

1322
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:59,240
Speaker 2: Everybody sees what whiteness does and they want access to it,

1323
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 2: or at least treatment of it. And so I wonder

1324
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:05,160
Speaker 2: if that's the cross world roads that we're really at

1325
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 2: is just like, hey man, we gotta have this.

1326
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 1: Whiteness like we I want Crypto. It's like Crypto does

1327
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 1: who the fuck what percentage of black men is they

1328
01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:15,960
Speaker 1: even affecting?

1329
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 5: Right?

1330
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:17,200
Speaker 1: Fuck it?

1331
01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 2: I feel like it should be on here, and I

1332
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:22,400
Speaker 2: feel like it's a black thing to me, So make

1333
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 2: it happen.

1334
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:25,439
Speaker 1: And now it's been acknowledging the White House, all.

1335
01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:28,240
Speaker 3: Right, which is the dumbest shit of her. Yes, I agree, So.

1336
01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 2: All right, I'm not gonna talking about anything else. We've

1337
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:34,280
Speaker 2: already gone an hour ten. It was a very special episode.

1338
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 2: If you if you're like, well you heard, share it.

1339
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 2: I send it to people. Yes, I think I've been

1340
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 2: as fucking fair and open mind as I can do,

1341
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:44,439
Speaker 2: not right up here about nothing. We didn't say, do

1342
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:46,880
Speaker 2: not right up here about some shit some other motherfucker

1343
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:50,479
Speaker 2: said that that wasn't said on this podcast because we're

1344
01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:52,640
Speaker 2: not here for the other people shit. This is a

1345
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 2: show about us and what we have to say.

1346
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:57,800
Speaker 1: Feedback should be about what we said and what the

1347
01:10:57,800 --> 01:10:58,960
Speaker 1: fuck we talked about.

1348
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:01,720
Speaker 2: So please, he's done write up here and try to

1349
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:04,559
Speaker 2: lump us in with some other motherfuckers. I didn't get

1350
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 2: up here, and that minush Obama talked down to him

1351
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:09,000
Speaker 2: any of this shit. I know people get in their

1352
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:11,720
Speaker 2: feelings about that. I'm not one of those people. I

1353
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 2: like the first to forever flow this. I love those motherfuckers.

1354
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:18,679
Speaker 2: If I if I could, I put them, I put

1355
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:21,840
Speaker 2: the pick the frame picture on my fucking wall. I'm

1356
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 2: that stereotypical about like they didn't like they was good

1357
01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:25,320
Speaker 2: to me.

1358
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:29,080
Speaker 1: So I'm cool with that. But yeah, this I think.

1359
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:32,640
Speaker 2: I think we tried to encapsulate a lot of different perspectives.

1360
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:34,400
Speaker 2: And I know I talked a lot, but I've been

1361
01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:36,240
Speaker 2: thinking about this a lot, and I knew this was

1362
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 2: a black man topic, so let me at least.

1363
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:44,000
Speaker 4: Fucking and I threw my little black little woman's voice

1364
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 4: in in the background.

1365
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:47,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god.

1366
01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:49,439
Speaker 2: All right, y'all, that's it. Thanks for listening. We'll talk

1367
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:51,840
Speaker 2: to you next time. Until then, I love you.

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01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:52,519
Speaker 3: I love you.