1 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: The following. 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 2: He is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: Cowboys. 5 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 2: This He's Talking Cowboys sing live from. 6 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: The Dallas Cowboys World Tours at the Star in Frisco. 7 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 2: Touchdown for to one final off season edition of Talking Cowboys, 8 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 2: presented by Black Rifle Coffee Company. We welcome you to 9 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:45,279 Speaker 2: the Star in Frisco and the s WBC studios alongside 10 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 2: Isaiah standback Josh Rodriguez soon to be Nick Harris. We 11 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 2: hope down the old line. Hopefully Nick Harris is here. 12 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 2: I am Kyle Yeoman. 13 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 3: Thank hey guys, welcome back my friend that other host sucks. 14 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: Oh man was married. No great job, man. 15 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 2: It's a lot of fun listening to you guys over 16 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks. And I mean the fomo 17 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: is real. And for those who don't know, fear of 18 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 2: missing out fomo, oh dude, like Draft weekend OTAs the. 19 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 4: Draft is your thing, dude. 20 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: The Draft. 21 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 2: That was the hardest thing to sit on my hands 22 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 2: for ever. And my wife even got mad at me 23 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 2: because I was at home and I was still like 24 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 2: tweeting and like sending out content, like putting stuff out 25 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 2: there and She's like, please get off the phone, and 26 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 2: I was like, I will after the two hundred and 27 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 2: fifty fifth pick, Like that's fine, I will get off 28 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 2: the phone. 29 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:36,839 Speaker 1: But after that's over. 30 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 2: So, man, I cannot explain how how good it is 31 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:40,919 Speaker 2: to be back. 32 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: The babies are all great. 33 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 2: They're all home, which is just so where you're so 34 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 2: thankful for and they are doing, uh, doing incredibly well. 35 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 2: They're growing and man, they're the cutest little things. And 36 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 2: I will cherish those these these last couple of weeks forever. 37 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 2: And but now it's time to kind of get back 38 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 2: to the real world. It's been Cloud nine for a 39 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 2: little bit, just hanging with the family, being around them 40 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: and things like that. But now it's time to produce 41 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: content again because the off season is pretty much over. 42 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 2: I mean today, there's a lot going on today, what 43 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 2: off season, there's there's a lot going on today. We're 44 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 2: finishing up our shows this week, and then the next 45 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 2: time we're on a microphone, we'll be in Oxnard, California. 46 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 1: So that's when it gets really i mean. 47 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 2: Imperative about this team, especially with the way that this 48 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 2: offseason has gone so far. 49 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: But yeah, good to be back with you. Guys. 50 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 5: No, it's great. 51 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 3: It's great to hear your voice again. And I think 52 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 3: we've all kind of missed hearing that Kyle Yeoman's voice 53 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 3: on Dallas. 54 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's talk about some of that stuff going on today. Yeah, 55 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 2: we've got some mandatory mini camp. And it was the 56 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 2: first word mandatory. 57 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 5: That's interesting. 58 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: There's an emphasis on that word. I feel like today 59 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: for a couple. 60 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 2: Of individuals, you got to be here, right, you would 61 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 2: be here and you have to be mandatory. 62 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 4: That's not voluntary. It's different than. 63 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 5: Military Randalorian, but mandatory. 64 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 4: Yet it's not Mandalorian. 65 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:09,839 Speaker 1: We're not talking Star Wars. 66 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:10,399 Speaker 5: No, Star Wars. 67 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 2: Okay, we're talking about a young Jedi though in His 68 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 2: name is CD Lamb. CD now talking about CD. That's 69 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 2: that's who all the eyes are on. I know Micah 70 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 2: had his. 71 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 1: Own OTA many holdouts. I guess you could say just 72 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: not be at OTA's, but that's optional. 73 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 2: This is mandamatory. So you would expect Parsons to be 74 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 2: in the fold. Do you expect CD Lamb to be 75 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 2: in the fold, especially after the news of Justin Jefferson's 76 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 2: new one. 77 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: And forty million dollar contra I don't. 78 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 5: I don't expect it. Now he might surprise us and 79 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 5: be here. And I know a lot of people might 80 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 5: feel some type of ways should neither one of those 81 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 5: gentlemen decide to show up today for the mandatory mini camp. 82 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 5: But everybody understands. I think at this point in time, 83 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 5: I think the general public understands now that business is 84 00:03:55,640 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 5: business and there's a team aspect is not. I don't 85 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 5: want to say it's not personal towards the team, towards 86 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 5: the players, your teammates. They understand as well that if 87 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 5: you have to sit out to handle your business, that 88 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 5: it is not an indictment on your commitment to the team, 89 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 5: that it is simply you trying to make sure that 90 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 5: there's one opportunity that you've been working for for your 91 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 5: entire life, that that box gets checked, because for you 92 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 5: to not address it and have regrets later on, that's 93 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 5: one thing that you just don't get back. You got 94 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 5: to understand the amount of hours, you gotta understand the 95 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 5: amount of dedication, amount of sweat, the commitments that they've had. 96 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 5: This is their time, and nobody on the team, I 97 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 5: would imagine speaking from a former player, nobody is going 98 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 5: to look at those two individuals should they choose not 99 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 5: to show up, especially CD. All right, we're talking about 100 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 5: CD in the contracts right now, of course, and say, 101 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 5: you know what, how dare you not be here during 102 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 5: the mandatory meaning camp, we have to be here, you 103 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 5: should be here. That's usually the public consensus. That's not 104 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 5: coming from the locker room. 105 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 3: If you were in the same position, you would make 106 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 3: a similar business. This is absolutely, absolutely this is the 107 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 3: time where you make money. It happens now. They don't 108 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,679 Speaker 3: have the privilege of getting money after they stopped playing. 109 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 3: You know what I mean, This is where you build 110 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 3: that fortune, and it's a business decision and you have 111 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 3: to respect that. And I think everybody in the building 112 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 3: respects respects that, and the clock is ticking at this point. 113 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 4: The deal's got to get. 114 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 3: Done and hopefully hopefully you do that before training camp. 115 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 4: I think you know it's going to I think it's 116 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 4: done now this week, will I mean, come on, you 117 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 4: think so, yeah, I got nothing going on this week. 118 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 4: Let's just do it now. 119 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 5: It happens. 120 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 2: They don't involve us in those financials reach out to 121 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 2: but if they would have listened to talking cowboys, they 122 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 2: would have known that this this day was coming. Because 123 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 2: Ceedee Lamb's not the only big time wide receiver from 124 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 2: that draft class in twenty twenty that's waiting on a 125 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 2: deal justin Jefferson yesterday. Four years, one hundred and forty million, 126 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 2: one ten guaranteed. It it's basically the Dak contract. 127 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: That's what it is. It's the Dak Prescott deal. 128 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 5: I like the one team guarantee. But you know what 129 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 5: I liked even more. What's that eighty eight at signing. 130 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's guaranteed. Sign Yeah, guaranteed. 131 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 5: It's sign your name and get direct depositive eighty eight million. 132 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 2: By the way, Yes, I know Dak was one sixty 133 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 2: and that's a little bit bigger. But I'm talking from 134 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 2: a team piece of the pie standpoint. It is a 135 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 2: significant contract, biggest non quarterback contract in NFL history. And 136 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 2: now that you've got two other guys waiting, You've got 137 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 2: Ceedee Lamb and Jamar Chase, and neither one of them 138 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 2: are in a rush. 139 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 5: They're mister Burns in it right now again to get 140 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:29,239 Speaker 5: it done. 141 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: But if you're the team, are you now in a rush? 142 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: Does this? Does this expedite the process? 143 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 5: I don't think so, really, I don't. I don't think so. 144 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 5: I think now I. 145 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: Think it's already kind of a conversation. 146 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 5: I think it should have been a rush prior to 147 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 5: Justin Jefferson. Now that Justin Jefferson's deal is done, I think, 148 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 5: now you know the number. 149 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 4: But I think they were very clear and that they 150 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 4: were waitings to. 151 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: Have to match it. 152 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think now, I mean when you look at 153 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,359 Speaker 5: their stats. 154 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 1: I mean matching that significant. 155 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 5: I mean, but you have to. I mean, you know 156 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 5: I'm saying, and every person that you allowed to get 157 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 5: their contract done was raising the it was raising the bar. Sure, 158 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 5: it was setting the new standard. That was it, right, 159 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 5: Like that's the market. Now when aman Ron Saint Brown 160 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 5: got his deals, like ooh, you better hurry up and 161 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 5: figure something out, right, you know, all these guys start 162 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 5: getting their deals, you had an opportunity. The Dallas Cowboys 163 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 5: had a window to set the market and say, hey, CD, 164 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 5: this is the highest for a receiver. But now you 165 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 5: let other teams dictate what that is. And now you're 166 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 5: putting CD in a in a very powerful position to say, well, 167 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 5: now look at my stats, look at his stats. We're 168 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 5: considered to be two of the best to do this 169 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 5: thing in the game. If he's getting thirty five, I'm 170 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 5: getting thirty five. If he got one hundred and ten, guaranteed, 171 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 5: I'm getting a hundred that and he's earned that right. So, 172 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 5: but you had the Cowboys had the leverage prior to 173 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 5: his comparison getting his deal. Now to his comp has 174 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 5: this deal. It's no different than you going to get 175 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 5: your property taxes at the house when you go to 176 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 5: when you go talk talk to the talk to the city, 177 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 5: and you say, hey, guess what I want to get 178 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 5: my tax They say, well, show me the other houses 179 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 5: in your neighborhood that are like yours. That's exactly what 180 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 5: just happened with CD and Justin Jefferson. Now Justin Jefferson 181 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 5: had just raised the market. Now to get how Cowboys 182 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 5: have to match. 183 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 4: That eighty eight at signing. 184 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 5: Literally it's gonna be I mean literally, I mean, yes, 185 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 5: I you like, but like that is it now? Yeah? 186 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 5: It might not have bar it might not have been 187 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 5: the conversation before, but now it is. 188 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 3: Well, they did say, granted they were waiting for leaves 189 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 3: to fall as far as wide receivers around the league 190 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 3: getting their contracts, and this was the big This is 191 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 3: the the I'm gonna seel Patrick Walker's tweet here. 192 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 4: This is the redwood that fell, you know what I mean? 193 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 4: This is this is what you expect. 194 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 5: He's so articulate, he really is. 195 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 4: He's got a way about him. But uh no, it's 196 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 4: facts though. 197 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 3: This is the one that you really needed to get 198 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 3: out there in order to determine how much you're gonna 199 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 3: pay CD. Their stats are so similar that the output 200 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 3: is so similar for both of them that that's the 201 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 3: number now. 202 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 4: And do you get even a. 203 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 3: Dollar more than you did to Justin Jefferson That whatever 204 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 3: it takes, but that is the number you're playing with. 205 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 4: That is the bar. 206 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: What would you do with the CD LAMB contract? 207 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 2: I want to hear from the ten line eight one 208 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,319 Speaker 2: seven two nine zero three two nine eight eight one 209 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 2: seven two nine zero three two nine eight Do. 210 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: You pay him now? 211 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 2: Do you let him play out a year, which I 212 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 2: don't think anybody wants to do. No way, there's no way. 213 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 2: But do you feel like this adds pressure? Is probably 214 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 2: the question I should ask to the front office to 215 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 2: get a deal done, because we know CDs party is 216 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 2: looking at that and saying, wait, maybe we can wait 217 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 2: until Jamar Chase's deal comes down. 218 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 5: I don't think Jamar Chase is in that conversation Will 219 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,079 Speaker 5: has two. I think he's really good receiver, but I 220 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 5: don't think that he's dealt with more injuries he has, 221 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 5: and I don't think that that's to come right. I 222 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 5: think Jamar Chase will come in below that now Jamar 223 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 5: Chase is happy as well. 224 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 2: Doesn't always happen in terms of like ratings. If we're 225 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 2: talking like Madden ratings, I agree with you. I think 226 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 2: I think Justin Jefferson Ceedee Lamb are right there and 227 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 2: they're both very very good. Jamar Chase is probably a 228 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 2: step below there. But when it comes to contracts, it 229 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 2: doesn't necessarily go that way. 230 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:53,959 Speaker 5: You're absolutely correct. 231 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 2: They can reset the market with Jamar Chase just as 232 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 2: much as they did with an. 233 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 5: I don't foresee that happening. Yeah, you're absolutely correct. Can happen. 234 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 5: I don't foresee that happening. I do believe that Jamar 235 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 5: Chase is probably happy now because he's like, Okay, well 236 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 5: thank you Justin Jefferson. Now I can come in right 237 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,079 Speaker 5: underneath you. You know, if that's the case, I don't 238 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 5: see him saying I should get more than justin Jefferson, 239 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 5: I can't see that. But in terms of the Dallas 240 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 5: Cowboys in a position that they now find themselves in, 241 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 5: I think that both them and CD are probably in 242 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 5: a more relaxed state now. And some people may not 243 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 5: agree with that, but I think that they were probably 244 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 5: more on edge prior to this deal coming across yesterday 245 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 5: because they didn't know in this real negotiations, right, you 246 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 5: want this now? I don't think we want that on 247 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 5: I believe that, And it's back and forth. But now 248 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 5: that you're literally the person that we were comparing you 249 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 5: to that number set Okay, now we know where're at 250 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 5: right now, we know we're at Now, it's okay. Now 251 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 5: we don't have to bicker back and forth. Now we're 252 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 5: talking about how much money do you want at signing? 253 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 5: Now we're talking about playing around with the salary cap. 254 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 5: That's what we're now talking about is no longer than 255 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 5: actual number. Now it's just how much money do we 256 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 5: give you in cash. 257 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: Piece of the pie? 258 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, that kind of thing exactly, and how do you 259 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 3: fit that under acts contract as well? 260 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 5: And just with the cole is Aller gap. 261 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 4: Situation that you have at the moment, I think. 262 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 2: Some of the other Yeah, that's the thing is some 263 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 2: of the other dead cap situations and some of the 264 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 2: where this off season is really pointed to is this 265 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 2: is not an off season to spend, right, But if 266 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 2: you were going to spend, it's gonna be guys like 267 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 2: CD and Micah and Trayvon or not Trayvon Deron down 268 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 2: the road, right whenever they those contracts are coming, this 269 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 2: is the time to do it. 270 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: I think you got to get it done. 271 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 3: Being brought up a really good point yesterday, it's like, 272 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 3: how much of the are the Vikings paying JJ McCarthy, 273 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? That's that's that's a part 274 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:35,959 Speaker 3: of why they're absolutely still done. 275 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 2: Do they have any dead cap with Kirk with Kirk 276 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 2: Cousins on there too, with him leaving this year. 277 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if they do or not. We'll find 278 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: the answer to that while you're looking for that. And 279 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: before we take our first break, we want. 280 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 2: To spend some time to remember one of the greats, 281 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 2: the legend Larry Allen, passed away yesterday or Sunday rather 282 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 2: at the age of fifty two. 283 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: And honestly, you've seen it on social media. 284 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 2: You've seen it on different platforms throughout the last forty 285 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 2: eight hours or so. But the amounts of respect, the 286 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 2: amounts of admiration, and the amount of sadness from this 287 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 2: moment specifically has all just kind of compounded in the 288 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 2: response from the league and from those that were close 289 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 2: to Larry Allen. And I first want to say condolences 290 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 2: to the family of Larry Allen and really what he 291 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 2: brought to the table, not only as a football player, 292 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 2: but as a man as well, because he leaves behind 293 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 2: a couple children and a wife as well, and he 294 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 2: was only fifty two years old, but the impact that 295 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 2: he had in those fifty two years will always be 296 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 2: remembered for sure. 297 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 5: Yeah. Absolutely, everybody that I've spoken to that has had 298 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 5: a relationship with Larry Allen has nothing but positive things 299 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 5: to say about him. Every teammate that he's ever had, 300 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 5: I know a bunch of guys that have played with him, 301 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 5: old school guys and relatively new school guys, guys that 302 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 5: are kind of in my realm at the end of 303 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 5: his career. They all had nothing but positive things to 304 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 5: say about it. Talked about his his friendship, talked about 305 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 5: his leadership, talked about his wisdom that he obviously passed 306 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 5: along to some of the younger guys that were up 307 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 5: and coming. You hate anybody passing. You hate obviously guys 308 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 5: who have had tremendous impacts passing. But the impact that 309 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 5: he's left not only for the organizations that he's played for, 310 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,719 Speaker 5: but the entire league. You really feel that in this 311 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 5: In this regard. 312 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 3: It's yeah, it's incredibly sad, and you also feel sad 313 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 3: for the players that he played with and the people 314 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 3: that you know are in this building every day. You know, 315 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 3: I think of Nate automatically and it's just I can't 316 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 3: imagine how are breaking That is grind I haven't. 317 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 5: Tked to him about it, but I talked to him yesterday. 318 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's you know, it's tragic, but still we'll be 319 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 3: remembered as possibly the greatest offensive lineman to ever be 320 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 3: a Dallas Cowboy. 321 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 2: One of the things that has been a positive, even 322 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 2: if you can just find the good in anything over 323 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 2: the last twenty four hours, is the amount of highlights 324 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 2: and stories that have come out with Larry Allen. And 325 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 2: of course we've had limited interaction with Larry. He wasn't 326 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 2: around the building a ton, but man, you feel like 327 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 2: you get to know him seeing the clips on the sideline, 328 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 2: seeing the highlight reels. 329 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 1: The workout tapes. I mean we were just before the show. 330 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 5: We were taking a look. 331 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 2: At the his been for reps at the combine and 332 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 2: just how special he was as an athlete. 333 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 5: And that's one of my first memories football. That's one 334 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 5: of my first football memories because I didn't watch a 335 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 5: lot of football growing up. I wasn't a football player 336 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 5: primarily until I was thirteen. But you were more into badminton. Yeah, exactly, 337 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 5: badminton pick a ball. But I remember watching that because 338 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 5: I like the skills competition. I'm like, this is competition. 339 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 5: I'm watched this. I remember seeing him lift that weight 340 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 5: and I'm like, bro, I don't know how much weight 341 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 5: that is, but this dude is moving that like it's 342 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 5: a tooth pick right now, and he's just a mountain 343 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 5: of a man. And you just hearing the stories of 344 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 5: how this dude you uhould throw guys around in One 345 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 5: of my ex teammates, Tank Johnson, posted on his social 346 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 5: media page yesterday about you know, his first time playing 347 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 5: against Larry Island and how he watched the film and 348 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 5: was it was shook to play him and if you 349 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 5: know Tank, Tank doesn't really get scared, so for him 350 00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 5: to say that, and then he gets in there and 351 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 5: and cracks a joke like please don't hurt me, man, 352 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 5: and like Larry just smiles at him. It's just cool 353 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 5: to hear these stories. Speaking with Nate yesterday, you know, 354 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 5: I've checked in on Nate just to you know, see 355 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 5: how he was doing. And Nate was just, you know, 356 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 5: Nate being positive. He's like, man, I'm just choosing to 357 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 5: remember the good times. 358 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: And Brad Sham said it this morning. 359 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 2: I was listening on the way into the Flagship one 360 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 2: O five through the fan and he was saying on 361 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 2: the Sean and RJ show about he was just he 362 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 2: was so feared. 363 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: From a front seven standpoint. 364 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 2: He's like, you would have these guys that were uber confident, overconfident, 365 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 2: strongest men in all of football, and then they would 366 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 2: go up against Larry Allen and they would just run away. 367 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 2: It would cower at the fact that Larry Allen was 368 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 2: coming his direction and working that direction. 369 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: So it really was. 370 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 2: He was an unbelievable player. And even though of course 371 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 2: I was limited in my time of getting to see 372 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 2: Larry Allen you just know. Man, He's a legend and 373 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 2: he will always be remembered around this building. Also, it's 374 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 2: a good reminder to everybody out there, check up on 375 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 2: your friends, check out up on everybody, just because you 376 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 2: never know, You never know when something like this can happen. 377 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: He was fifty two, he was on vacation with his family. 378 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 2: Things happened quick and out of the blue all the time, 379 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 2: and so you never want to. 380 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: Leave anything at any page unturned or turned. All the 381 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: waves while they're still still here, no doubt, No doubt. 382 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 3: Emma Smith even had a very tearful video he posted 383 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 3: on social which is hard to watch, but I mean 384 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 3: still a tribute to to a very special person, no doubt. 385 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 2: Rest in peace, Larry Allen, the legend, Larry Allen passing 386 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 2: away at age fifty two. 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So this is our off season 453 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: for dummies. 454 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 5: Okay. 455 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,360 Speaker 2: By the way, twenty five million dollars of dead cap 456 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 2: eight point five Kirk Cousins in Minnesota based off of 457 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:53,239 Speaker 2: our segment, last segment conversation about Ceedee Lamb. So they 458 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 2: paid him even with some significant cap number, not to 459 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 2: mention the Daniel Hunter, not to mention Marcus Davenport and 460 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 2: a couple other dead money contracts at the Vikings had 461 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 2: to navigate around, all right, I'm going to start. 462 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 1: With draft class. Draft class overview. Of course, Tyler Guidon 463 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: out of Oklahoma was the first round pick you traded back, 464 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 1: and you take an opportunity to take a swing at 465 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 1: some offensive linemen. 466 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 2: With both Tyler Geiton and Cooper b B out of 467 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 2: Kansas State, I want to start there. What's the expectation 468 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 2: for this draft class. What do they need to show 469 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 2: you this offseason to provide some hope going into a. 470 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: Brand new season. 471 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:36,360 Speaker 5: Physicality, physicality, and consistency. I think you have to bring 472 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 5: an attitude to this offensive line that has, in totality 473 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 5: I feel like has been missing. Not to say that again, 474 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 5: I say in totality because I don't think that as 475 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 5: a unit they have been feared for some time now. 476 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 5: I would like to see this offensive unit be feared. 477 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 5: And I think that the addition of big Cooper BB 478 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 5: at the center position to see him more than I 479 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 5: am about anybody else in this draft. Tyler guid and 480 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 5: obviously a big big fail to move it over to 481 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 5: the left side and going to see what he can 482 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 5: produce over there. Hopefully he can be stout. He's gonna 483 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 5: have a nice little introduction to the NFL. In Week one, 484 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 5: so we'll see how that goes from between now and then. 485 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 5: But if these guys can assert themselves as a as 486 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 5: a unit, not as individuals, but as a unit, and 487 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 5: they can work in symmetry with each other and be 488 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 5: a road grader to the point where the Cowboys can 489 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 5: feel confident enough to run the ball and get three 490 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 5: to four yards a pop every single time with with 491 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 5: any running back. I think that this team is a 492 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 5: complete problem on the offense side of the ball. But 493 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 5: that's what I'm looking for from this draft class, specifically 494 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 5: on the offense side. 495 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:47,919 Speaker 3: I think you're looking for a chip on their shoulder, 496 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 3: and I think definitely Cooper BB has that. 497 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 4: Being drafted in the third round. 498 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 3: Granted, deep was a first round grade for a lot 499 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 3: of people, and I think he's kind of become. 500 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 4: The overall favorite of the draft, if. 501 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 3: That makes sense, because of the value that you picked 502 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 3: him at. I want to see attitude from the offensive line. 503 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 3: I think it is a complete overhaul. Then that was 504 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 3: clearly the cow was objective going into the draft. It's like, 505 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 3: all right, let's remake this offensive line. You lose your center, 506 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 3: you lose some depth, and I think it just makes 507 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 3: sense to me that you completely go in with a 508 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 3: new mindset of like we're going to mal people, We're 509 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 3: going to get them out of the way for whoever 510 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 3: is running the football. I'm also really looking forward to 511 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 3: Marris Lufou. I really want to see how he contributes 512 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 3: on special teams. Granted we have a new special team, 513 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 3: we have a new kickoff rules and everything, so I 514 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 3: want to see how he impacts there and then hopefully, 515 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 3: you know, gets on the field as well. 516 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 4: On defense. So there's a lot of hope. I'm on 517 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 4: my end. 518 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 3: I'm just I'm a Homer by heart, so it's going 519 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 3: to be hard to kind of dissuade me from this 520 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 3: drift class until I see otherwise. 521 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 2: I'm interested in Lui Foul because whenever that pick was made, 522 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 2: I mean that was a third round pick, late third 523 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 2: round pick, and I had a late fourth round pick 524 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 2: on him or great on him. I wasn't excited about 525 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,439 Speaker 2: it then, But then hearing the plan that Mike Zimmer 526 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 2: has for Lui Foul, I think kind of turned the 527 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 2: tidele a little bit for me. And that doesn't always happen. 528 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 2: I am I'm positive, just by nature in my own 529 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 2: right that doesn't always happen whenever, especially when it comes 530 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 2: to the draft, because I've got a pretty good idea 531 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 2: at least watching these guys, how I feel like they'll 532 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 2: they'll fare. 533 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: Of course, Sweep been around before, Lui Fowl with his ability. 534 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:36,239 Speaker 2: To blitz and go downhill and play in between the 535 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 2: tackles and fine holes like he did when you go 536 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 2: back and you watch him at Notre Dame. 537 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: He did it a couple of times, but he didn't 538 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 1: do it all the time. 539 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 2: If that's his role, I think he would have some success, 540 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 2: and so I think there's some excitement there. I was 541 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 2: really excited about the Marshawn Neelan pick in the second round, 542 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 2: I think. 543 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 1: Which is a surprise for everybody. I think it was 544 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: a surprise that he was there. 545 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of people had him as a late 546 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 2: first early second round pick, and he was there. 547 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: Dallas didn't need edge rusher, but we've. 548 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 2: Gotten onto this front office before for window dressing their 549 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 2: board and only getting needs. That's what got them in 550 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 2: trouble with the twenty twenty three class. If you in 551 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 2: the second round, Luke Scoommaker, you needed a tight end, 552 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 2: you went and got one. 553 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: They didn't do that. They said, hey, who's the best 554 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,640 Speaker 1: player on our board. Here's this Marshawn Neeland cat. He's 555 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 1: pretty good. We got to know him at the Senior Bowl, 556 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 1: we got to see him at the Combine. He was 557 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: phenomenal in. 558 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 2: Both instances out of Western Michigan. Let's make it right, 559 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 2: let's pick it and let it. 560 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 1: Ride and see what happens. And so I'm excited to 561 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: see what he does. 562 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 2: I think he's going to have some success in training camp, 563 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 2: probably turned some heads. Plus, I think it puts some 564 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 2: pressure on Sam Williams, another former second round pick. That 565 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 2: one might have been a little bit of a pigeon 566 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 2: hole where they needed an edge rusher in that class 567 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 2: and they went with Sam Williams, who they loved, by 568 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 2: the way, But now it puts pressure on him because 569 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 2: it's win or go home in that position battle. That's 570 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 2: one of the ones I'll be keeping an eye on 571 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 2: whenever we get deeper. But we've heard about the draft 572 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 2: class quite a bit. Let's talk about some of these 573 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 2: free agent additions very quick. 574 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. 575 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, this would be a quick one two three B 576 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 2: band bang, because that's about as much as they've they've added. 577 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 2: Eric Kendricks at middle linebackers probably the number one contributing 578 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 2: factor probably, but it's got to be uh, Ezekiel Elliott 579 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,479 Speaker 2: comes back. Course, that's an interesting one. That's more of 580 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,199 Speaker 2: maybe a name and then a running back by committee approach. 581 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 2: But uh, out of those two, who do you feel 582 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 2: like plays the biggest role, Kendricks or Zeke? And I 583 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 2: asked that in a legitimate way because I think Zeke 584 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 2: has to carry the football significantly in order to be 585 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 2: on this team. 586 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 5: I believe that Kendricks is essential to the success of 587 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 5: this defense just from a standpoint of being able to 588 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 5: relay in quarterback what the new defensive quarter of Mike 589 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 5: Zimmer wants. I think it's important to have a confident, 590 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 5: calm voice on the field that's able to relay that information, 591 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying in an effective way. I 592 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 5: think offensive translator. Yes, yeah, and just like hey, like 593 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 5: get over, you're in the wrong gap, or I guess 594 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 5: I need you and I need you in this shade 595 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 5: or whatever it might be. Like just little things like that, 596 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 5: having that confidence there instead of just kind of hoping 597 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 5: that you're making the right decision. Yeah. So I think 598 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 5: it's gonna be important from a standpoint, and I honestly 599 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 5: think that it's more important to Dak that Zeke is 600 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 5: here than it is for Zeke to be here for 601 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 5: the rest of the team. And people might think that 602 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 5: I'm crazy, but I think for what situation Dak is in, 603 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 5: I think it is very reassuring for him to have 604 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 5: his sidekick with him, to have his best friend with him. Yeah, 605 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 5: having your man right there one hundred grand, sitting back 606 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 5: behind you or sitting right next to you in the 607 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 5: gun and knowing that he has your back, knowing when 608 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 5: you might be getting flustered or might be getting you know, 609 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 5: whatever's going on in your head, being able to tap 610 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 5: you be like you're good, I got you, calming the 611 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 5: seas for him, I think it's more for Dak's mental 612 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 5: and his the calmness of him going through this season, 613 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 5: playing in his last year. As we now see kinda 614 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 5: has come to fruition. Then it is as effective for 615 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 5: Zeke to be a contributor in the running game. I 616 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,199 Speaker 5: know a lot of people are looking to him for that, 617 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 5: and obviously that's going to be that's his job, but 618 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 5: I think it's he'll have a greater impact on Dak 619 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 5: than he'll have in a running game. 620 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 7: Hmm. 621 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 1: I agree. I actually agree with that quite a bit. 622 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 2: The past protection side of things, I think he will 623 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 2: have a significant impact. He can still block, like yeah, 624 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 2: let's not get it wrong, Like he can still get 625 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 2: up there and protect Dak in a sense. So yeah, 626 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 2: I think even based off of the mental and physical side, 627 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 2: Zeke is there to help Dac out. Do you think 628 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,479 Speaker 2: he's going to carry the ball more than these other 629 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 2: running back It's like Rico Daudele or even a Royce 630 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 2: Freeman who was another edition in the off season, probably 631 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 2: about the same. 632 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: They'll share, share those carries, similar workloads, opportunity for duce 633 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 1: Van maybe to get a carrier too. He's got to 634 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 1: show out in training camp significantly. 635 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 5: I think Freeman's your your workhorse. 636 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 1: You think, even your short yard guy. I think he 637 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: could beat that shortyard guy. 638 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 4: I think with Zeke, you're looking at a different difference. 639 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 3: Zeke you can't expect you know, uh, twenty sixteen hurdling, Yeah, 640 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 3: sixty yard run, you know, and especially if you saw 641 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 3: him at all in New England, he's running tough and 642 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 3: I think with this what we just talked about, this 643 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 3: New look offensive line. I think they're gonna pound people 644 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 3: into the ground. I really really do. I mean, that's 645 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 3: the hope. That's the hope, um again, but part of 646 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 3: me feels like it's just gonna be a bowling ball 647 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 3: situation where you're just gonna keep inching your way down 648 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 3: the field. 649 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 4: And for now, the short yardage isn't cute anymore. 650 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 3: You know exactly that we're gonna run in the red 651 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 3: zone and it's gonna be Zeke. Yeah, I have high expectations, 652 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 3: but you know, I'm cautiously optimistic when it comes to Zeke. 653 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 3: But I do think he's going to contribute more to 654 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 3: this team this year than Eric Hendricks will. 655 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: I like the way that you put it. 656 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 2: It's a different contributed to distribution, different build different Z differency. 657 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 4: It's like Freezer and Cell like upgrading and Dragon ball Z. 658 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 4: You know what I mean. 659 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 2: It is unfortunate, and I think there's there's a significant 660 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 2: overreaction by certain parts of the fan base about this 661 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 2: offseason and the lack of movement, because. 662 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 1: On paper, this is still a really good team. 663 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 2: You've got all these all pros, You've got significant contributors 664 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 2: at each level of your offense and each level of 665 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 2: your defense. Are you a complete team? I think you're close. 666 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 2: Are you a better team on paper this year than 667 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 2: you were last year? I don't think I can say that. 668 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 2: I don't think after this offseason. So I think there's 669 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 2: a significant portion of overreaction but also a significant portion 670 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 2: of criticism that needs to be placed on this offseason 671 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 2: because we just mentioned all three of the outside signings. 672 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 2: Zeenkil Elliott, who you bring back for a homecoming, Eric Kendricks, 673 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,239 Speaker 2: who is a veteran who you expect to have some 674 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 2: significant impact. He's probably Stefan Gilmour of the linebacker corps. 675 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 2: That's kind of what he was last or what Stefan 676 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 2: Gilmour was to the corners last year, that's what Eric Kendricks. 677 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: Is this year to the linebackers. And then you bring 678 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 1: in Royce Freeiman to be. 679 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 2: A running back by committee contributor. So you haven't done 680 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 2: anything in this offseason, but you look around and you 681 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 2: still have Michael Parsons, you still have Cdee Lamb, you 682 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 2: get Trayvon Dicks back, you have Deron Bland. You have 683 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 2: one of the best special teams units in all of football. 684 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 2: In a year where special teams is going to be significant. 685 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 2: And you've got a quarterback who was second in MVP 686 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 2: voting and has been better and better every year. He's 687 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 2: been healthy through an entire offseason, and last time I checked, 688 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 2: Dak has been healthy all off season. So I think 689 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,479 Speaker 2: there's ways you can be optimistic and ways you can 690 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 2: be critical critical of this offseason. But there's at the 691 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:04,479 Speaker 2: end of the day, you still got to produce, and 692 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 2: this team hasn't done that in the playoffs yet, so 693 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 2: I get the criticism. 694 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 5: Uh. 695 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 2: There have been some changes though, from a coaching staff standpoint, 696 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 2: coaches that have come in and completely flipped the script, 697 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 2: mostly on the defensive side of the football. Defensive coordinator 698 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 2: of course, Mike Zimmer. We mentioned him already. Greg Gillis 699 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 2: is in here. Yeah, ge baby, it's been fun seeing 700 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 2: him around the building. 701 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 5: Have you haven't loved it to him yet? No, that's 702 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 5: my due. 703 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: He's down there every once in a while. He's always 704 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 1: just so good to talk to. 705 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 2: Christian garcia Is, Paul Gunther, There's a couple of other guys. 706 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 2: I mean, Al Harris is back, which is great. I 707 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 2: think having him back is a significant one. And then 708 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 2: defensive line coach Jeff Sigonia was also an addition the house. 709 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 1: I think this is probably this is an all. 710 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 2: Encompassing answer, not just the new coaches or question, not 711 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 2: just the new coaches. Which coach is under the most 712 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 2: pressure this year to produce produce from a unit standpoint, 713 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 2: an individual standpoint, or a team standpoint. 714 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 5: I'm gonna take Zimmer out of this because I feel 715 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 5: like that's unfair. 716 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 4: It doesn't even count. 717 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 5: I mean, but I'm gonna. 718 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: I don't even know if Zimmer is the answer though. 719 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 5: Oh no, I think well, I think Zimmer is the 720 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 5: most prominent in terms of the magnifying glasses on him, 721 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 5: because he's over all these coaches right in terms of 722 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 5: the defense side of the ball. So I'm gonna, I'm 723 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 5: gonna I'm gonna remove him from the equation. I'm gonna 724 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 5: go straight to Jeffson going now, you prob pernous the 725 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 5: last name I think, so, all right, So I'm gonna 726 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 5: go to the defensive line coach. Okay, I believe that 727 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 5: he has the most on him outside of Zimmer, simply 728 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 5: because of the fact he is being tasked with making 729 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 5: this defensive line be stout and stop the run. Once again, 730 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 5: the conversation is presenting its ugly ahead, and I don't 731 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 5: think that he has the personnel on the interior defensive 732 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 5: line to do what he wants to do. So it's 733 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 5: gonna be interesting to see how he gets production out 734 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 5: of guys that we've been looking for production. How does 735 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 5: he get that out of them? Right? How do you 736 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 5: pull that out of guys? How do you pull production 737 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 5: out of Mazzie Smith coming off of being underweight, coming 738 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 5: off of shoulder surgery. Right, everybody's looking at his weight 739 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 5: right now and questioning, what's kind of hard to come 740 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 5: from somebody who had three shoulder surgeries. It's kind of 741 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 5: hard to gain weight when you're trying to even be 742 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 5: able to lift weight. So I mean, so we have 743 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 5: to wait and see what he reports. It's a camp at, 744 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 5: But how do you get production out of guys who 745 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 5: have been underwhelming in some sense? And then how do 746 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 5: you connect with guys with your style of coaching that 747 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 5: might not be receptive to that style of coaching? You know, 748 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 5: And there's a lot of things that take place by 749 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 5: replacing a coach. So I think that it's gonna be 750 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 5: very interesting from his dynamic because he doesn't seem like 751 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 5: one that's going to change his style. How do guys 752 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 5: adapt to his coaching style and how does he pull 753 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 5: greatness out of guys who have shown flashes of it 754 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 5: in the past. 755 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 3: I think the easy answer would be Mike McCarthy because 756 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 3: everything is on the line for him the final year 757 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 3: of his contract. You also have to look at Brian 758 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 3: Schottenhummer two. I think because of how this offense sort 759 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 3: of skidded the first five games up until the Chargers game. 760 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 3: I think it was when they finally got rolling that 761 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 3: Installing that new offense is one thing, but carrying that 762 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 3: success over now that you I mean, granted, do you 763 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,399 Speaker 3: have a new running back, but you have a lot 764 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 3: of the same pieces in place on the offensive side 765 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 3: of the ball. How does that translate now that it's 766 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 3: been installed for a full year? Do you get up 767 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 3: and running right away going into year two of this offense? 768 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 3: And granted it's the last season on Mike McCarthy's contract, it's. 769 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:36,399 Speaker 1: A good point. 770 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 4: All the pressure's there. 771 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 2: I agree with you. I think that's the easy answer. 772 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 2: I'll throw one other name in there. I'll say Scott 773 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 2: McCurry as linebackers coach. I think linebacker has been a 774 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 2: question mark, mostly due to injuries, and he hasn't had 775 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 2: a whole lot to work with because of injuries and 776 00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 2: depth at that position, and they didn't necessarily address a 777 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,319 Speaker 2: whole lot this year, So now it's kind of on 778 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 2: Scott McCurley. Of course falls underneath the Zimmer umbrella as well, 779 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,760 Speaker 2: but they've got to get something out of this linebacker corps. 780 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 2: They've got to get some sort of consistency out of 781 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 2: these players in order to be successful defensively. 782 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:17,919 Speaker 1: So I'll throw him into the mix. 783 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:19,879 Speaker 2: But the guys that you mentioned, I think I'll have 784 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 2: some level of pressure. 785 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 1: Every coach has some level pressure. 786 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 3: This whole team. There's pressure on all everybody. He could 787 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 3: blow up, and it's. 788 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 5: Pressure on everybody because if the hit coach is not retained, 789 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,800 Speaker 5: who's saying exactly. Nobody's job is saying yeah, no. 790 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 1: All right. 791 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,720 Speaker 2: Twenty twenty four upcoming schedule the last of the four 792 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 2: pillars of the Cowboys offseason. We hit draft class, free agency, 793 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 2: coaching changes, and then now twenty twenty four upcoming schedule. 794 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 1: I don't want to list the whole schedule here. You 795 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 1: can go on Dallas Cowboys dot com to find it. 796 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 1: What is the toughest part of the schedulesh that early. 797 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 3: Half that you have the Browns, soon after that, Ravens Steeler, 798 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 3: There's Lions. You know that, that whole that that run 799 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 3: there is going to be tough for a playoff team 800 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,399 Speaker 3: a year ago, right or did they just I think 801 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 3: they did squeak into the playoffs? Ca, Yeah, because I 802 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 3: think the Browns. 803 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:13,360 Speaker 1: Browns did not. 804 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 3: Did they beat him in the first round if I 805 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,840 Speaker 3: if I'm not mistaken, But then again, this isn't talking Browns. 806 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you think that's that first part of the 807 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 1: schedules that Yeah, that. 808 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 3: First part is rough man, but but everything before the 809 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 3: bye you have a bye week seven and then you 810 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 3: just you just have to play the forty nine ers 811 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 3: after that. 812 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: So, yeah, Bills beat them in the playoffs. So they 813 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 1: did make it. Yeah, the Bills beat them. 814 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 5: Yeah. At first, that first portion of the season is 815 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 5: is trash. It's terrible, it's it's a it's a lot 816 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 5: to take on. 817 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,240 Speaker 4: But it's the first portion of the season. 818 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 5: But it's the first portion of season. But it's not 819 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,879 Speaker 5: like it gets easier, right in terms of where we're 820 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 5: at today. That eight through eleven is a beast, and 821 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:53,839 Speaker 5: matter of fact, I'm going to extend it to say 822 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 5: eight through twelve because I think obviously, coming off the buy, 823 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 5: you you go straight into forty nine ers, which is 824 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,759 Speaker 5: awesome because you have time to prepare for them. But 825 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,799 Speaker 5: the San Francisco forty nine ers, I think Atlanta's still 826 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 5: trying to figure things out. But then you got Philly, 827 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,839 Speaker 5: you got a heck of a great Houston Texas team. 828 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 5: And I think the Washington Commanders, I think they are 829 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 5: going to present problems for the Dallas Cowboys this year 830 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,919 Speaker 5: as it stands right now. Okay, we'll see how things 831 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 5: play out, but I foresee Washington being a lot more 832 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 5: competitive than everybody's giving him credit for. So I know, 833 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 5: I know, I know, I'm on my own island there. 834 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 1: I know I like dan Quinn too, but the football and. 835 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 5: What I hear, he's not just one that one side 836 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 5: of game. 837 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 4: So it's gonna hurt. 838 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,760 Speaker 1: So it'll be Jade Daniels that'll be throwing the football 839 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 1: or running it. I mean, either he's a great player. 840 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 2: I don't get me wrong, He's a good player, but 841 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,959 Speaker 2: I don't think he's He's not that guy. 842 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 5: I don't disagree with you, but I don't I don't 843 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 5: foresee them being I don't foresee them being the team 844 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,839 Speaker 5: that's gonna be throwing a ball around either. So you're right. 845 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,240 Speaker 5: So I think they're gonna they're gonna try to control 846 00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 5: the ground and then defensively try to add a bunch 847 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 5: of pressure. But that's that's just my thoughts. But I 848 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 5: think that outside of that first portion, I think that 849 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 5: eight through twelve, for me. 850 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 2: Is is a little little dicey Seven of your first 851 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 2: No way, I'm gonna go even further. Eight of your 852 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 2: first ten opponents this year all were in the playoffs 853 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:15,320 Speaker 2: last year. 854 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:16,880 Speaker 1: Brown's, Ravens. 855 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 2: Oh wait, okay, make it seven of ten. I forgot 856 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 2: the Giants, Browns, Ravens, Steelers, Lions, forty nine Ers, Eagles, Texans. 857 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 2: So that seven of your first ten opponents of the 858 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 2: year we're all playoff teams a year ago. Doesn't mean 859 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 2: they're gonna be just as good. But you expect the 860 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,319 Speaker 2: Texans to be better? Yes, well, San Francisco is still 861 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,759 Speaker 2: San Francisco. If you know for a certain fact that 862 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 2: Detroit coming into at and T Stadium, who wants to 863 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 2: absolutely destroy you. 864 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:46,879 Speaker 1: And then you've got one for every more down. 865 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, then you've got the Ravens. You're on the road 866 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 2: against Cleveland and Pittsburgh. 867 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,800 Speaker 1: I agree. I think the first you're gonna learn a 868 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 1: lot about this football. 869 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 2: You are early before, in the first eight six weeks 870 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 2: of the year before the bye. 871 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,439 Speaker 1: And then first eleven weeks of the year, you're gonna 872 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,240 Speaker 1: know exactly who the Dallas. 873 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 5: Which one of y'all hit me? 874 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, you're gonna know exactly who this team is. 875 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 4: And I do agree Isaiah to a certain point. 876 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 3: I don't know that those are necessarily going to translate 877 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 3: into wins for Washington, but I think you come out 878 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,920 Speaker 3: of those games pretty beat up. Yeah, they're gonna be 879 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 3: a tough team, granted with with Dan Quinn coaching them. 880 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 5: I mean San Francisco, you know obviously, and then you 881 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 5: played Atlanta, San Francisco, Philly, Houston, those three right there. 882 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, those Houston's gonna that's tough. 883 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 5: Right, Those three out of four games are really really tough. 884 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,239 Speaker 1: If you think you're getting a break with Atlanta, that's 885 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 1: not that's not gonna happen. 886 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 2: Atlanta is going to be high fling offensively. Especially, they're 887 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 2: gonna be really good. Their defense is going to give 888 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 2: up points. Yeah, but they're gonna they're gonna shoot you out. 889 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 2: So you're gonna get in a track meet with Atlanta 890 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 2: and then have to play Philadelphia, Houston, and then oh, 891 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 2: by the way, you go on the road and play Washington. 892 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,759 Speaker 3: So yeah, all these teams still got to see CD LAMB. 893 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, you know, hopefully with a new contract. 894 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 4: All right, I gotta be the positive sciences. 895 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 1: Let's take our second break. 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It's also brought to you 943 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,719 Speaker 2: by Quaker Oats, the super trusted superfood Quaker Oats, the 944 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 2: official oatmeal sponsor of the Dallas Cowboys. 945 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:45,400 Speaker 1: Did you get him in? 946 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:45,799 Speaker 5: You know? 947 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 1: I freaking got him? And Kyle let's go. 948 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,919 Speaker 5: Let's go now. I am sure you boy got them 949 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:51,840 Speaker 5: oats in, babe. 950 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 1: It's good to be bad. Let's go love it, love 951 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,000 Speaker 1: them man. Josh Rodriguez, Isaiah stand back. 952 00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,240 Speaker 2: I'm Kyle Yeoman's glad you're with us here on talking 953 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 2: cowboys done? 954 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 1: Really? Uh? 955 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,960 Speaker 2: The Off Season for Dummies episode is kind of the 956 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,440 Speaker 2: way that I've tabbed this one because I'm the dummy 957 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,799 Speaker 2: that missed the entire offseason and so I need to 958 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 2: be caught up. But now it's time to look ahead 959 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:17,320 Speaker 2: training camp preview. Who is under the most pressure going 960 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,720 Speaker 2: into training camp? And I'm gonna stick to a player 961 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,400 Speaker 2: standpoint because we just talked about pressure on coaching staff members, 962 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say pressure player wise going into training camp. 963 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:30,160 Speaker 3: Josh, I'll start with you, going back to my point 964 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,800 Speaker 3: about Zeke. I think you have to look good running 965 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:33,400 Speaker 3: the football. 966 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:38,880 Speaker 4: With this offensive line, I would say your spot is secure, 967 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:39,440 Speaker 4: of course. 968 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,359 Speaker 3: Man, Like I think if if he doesn't look good 969 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,200 Speaker 3: running the ball, then we just got to start looking 970 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 3: at Okay, who's who's out there that's gonna be tough, man, 971 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,959 Speaker 3: That's my gut instinct call what about you, guys? 972 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:55,520 Speaker 1: Am Trey Lance. That's a good one. That's a good one. 973 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,200 Speaker 5: He's gonna have more than his fair share of preseason 974 00:43:58,239 --> 00:43:59,920 Speaker 5: and he's fighting for a number two position. 975 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:02,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all it's wide open. 976 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,560 Speaker 2: I mean, Cooper Rush doesn't And as much as Cooper 977 00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,719 Speaker 2: Rush has had some success as the backup quarterback, he 978 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,560 Speaker 2: doesn't have the safety net of winning those games and 979 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:11,680 Speaker 2: have the year prior. 980 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,239 Speaker 5: He doesn't have the upside and the youth. 981 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:13,600 Speaker 10: Yeah. 982 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,280 Speaker 2: I think there's a couple of things in Trey Lance's 983 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,600 Speaker 2: category and the comparison to Dak too. 984 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:22,440 Speaker 1: I mean they're similar type of players, prototype players. 985 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,800 Speaker 5: They didn't pick up his fifth year option, that's true, 986 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 5: So I mean he is literally this is his resume. 987 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 1: That would have been an expensive fifth year option. Yeah, 988 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 1: I mean he knew that was he knew twenty three million. 989 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,080 Speaker 5: But this is his I mean, he's he is putting 990 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,439 Speaker 5: himself out there for the world to see, and he's 991 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,200 Speaker 5: putting himself in a position. I mean, there's a lot 992 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,640 Speaker 5: to go on that's going to go on here. Dak 993 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,360 Speaker 5: situation is not settled. Everybody's gonna assume that he's gonna 994 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,440 Speaker 5: get You know that Dallas Cowboys are going to extend 995 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 5: him or if he balls out this year and then 996 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,360 Speaker 5: they'll resign him. Trey, from his perspective, I got a 997 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,120 Speaker 5: ball out in his preseason with any opportunity that I'm given, 998 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,040 Speaker 5: just in case things don't go great for that, you 999 00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,560 Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, Hey, I'm here, you know I'm 1000 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,200 Speaker 5: seriously that's the situation. That's how he has to approach it. 1001 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,359 Speaker 5: If things don't go well for Dak, I'm your guy. 1002 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,879 Speaker 5: Yeah right, that's how he has to mentally approach training camp. 1003 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:10,680 Speaker 5: Oh and by the way, if things do go great 1004 00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,839 Speaker 5: for Dak, hey goople Rush, I'm taking your spot, bro. 1005 00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,200 Speaker 5: Like That's that's his mentality coming into the training camp 1006 00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:17,799 Speaker 5: and it has to be that way. So I think 1007 00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:21,640 Speaker 5: in terms of pressure, there's an expectation of Trey Lance 1008 00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,319 Speaker 5: now going into this training camp and he gets a 1009 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,880 Speaker 5: real training camp with the Dallas Cowboys and it's going 1010 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,440 Speaker 5: to be a shootout between him and Cooper Rush and 1011 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:28,000 Speaker 5: his preseason. 1012 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,879 Speaker 2: That would be the answer to my next question as well, 1013 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,360 Speaker 2: what position battle are you looking forward to the most? 1014 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,080 Speaker 2: I think it'd be the backup quarterback battle, and there's 1015 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 2: a lot of times where the backup qbs get the 1016 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,719 Speaker 2: spotlight at camp because you know Dak is there, you 1017 00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:42,440 Speaker 2: know he's the starter, and you know he's going to 1018 00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,759 Speaker 2: be significant in terms of snaps. But you'd rarely through 1019 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:49,120 Speaker 2: the course of the season get to see the backup quarterbacks, 1020 00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,440 Speaker 2: get to see everybody else a number of times, but 1021 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,400 Speaker 2: in the middle of the season, you don't see the 1022 00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,160 Speaker 2: battle at all. So this is your one shot to 1023 00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,440 Speaker 2: look at it, and this is your one shot for 1024 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,879 Speaker 2: Trey Lance to try and step up and be that gup. 1025 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,440 Speaker 5: Oh, he's in a great position right now. 1026 00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:07,200 Speaker 3: I would also say linebacker as far as position positions 1027 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,440 Speaker 3: that need to be kind of filled out at training camp. 1028 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,200 Speaker 3: But then again, my first training camp last year, it 1029 00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,880 Speaker 3: was really hard judging line and back player in general. 1030 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:16,960 Speaker 4: It's like, and it's really kind of impossible. 1031 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 2: It's like, linebacker and running back are the two toughest 1032 00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,160 Speaker 2: to see a training camp because you don't have the 1033 00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,000 Speaker 2: physicality of either of those positions. 1034 00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,799 Speaker 3: They're not tackling at all. It's tackling, So it's like, 1035 00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:28,840 Speaker 3: it's so hard to judge this. Yes, they're in the 1036 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:30,280 Speaker 3: right spot, but is that a tackle. 1037 00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,920 Speaker 2: You can see win loss on the defensive line. You 1038 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:33,800 Speaker 2: can see when. 1039 00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:35,839 Speaker 5: Tag Duzbine on his hip. 1040 00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:36,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1041 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:36,640 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1042 00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,120 Speaker 2: You can see win loss between offensive line defensive line. 1043 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,800 Speaker 2: You can see wins and losses between wide receivers and dbs. 1044 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:42,840 Speaker 1: And you can see. 1045 00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:46,480 Speaker 2: Quarterback play in the right place, right time, right throw, 1046 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:51,560 Speaker 2: right accuracy whatever. Linebacker, I'll throw safety as like a 1047 00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,760 Speaker 2: half because you can you can be good in coverage 1048 00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:55,439 Speaker 2: but then be in the right place at the right time. 1049 00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,560 Speaker 2: You can still see good safety play, but linebacker and 1050 00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:59,960 Speaker 2: running back are the toughest by Farest. 1051 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:01,080 Speaker 1: But I agree with you. 1052 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,520 Speaker 3: Well, especially with Deuce last year, I think kind of 1053 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,279 Speaker 3: thought was like, oh man, this is going to be 1054 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,120 Speaker 3: so special, you know what I mean, and not rapp it'. 1055 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,279 Speaker 4: It's it's really hard to judge. It's really really hard 1056 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:11,400 Speaker 4: to go. 1057 00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,839 Speaker 5: He would have broke that, Oh men't getting the game, 1058 00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:15,000 Speaker 5: get thrown out the club. 1059 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,799 Speaker 2: And we said it last year on this show. But 1060 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,960 Speaker 2: when Deuce was going off in the preseason and he 1061 00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:24,040 Speaker 2: was doing everything he did against Jacksonville and against Seattle, 1062 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,200 Speaker 2: it was like, oh, this guy's the number two running back, 1063 00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:27,840 Speaker 2: Like he's. 1064 00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,080 Speaker 1: He's right behind Tony Pollard. 1065 00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,160 Speaker 2: It's like, guys, he's doing this against guys that he 1066 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:35,240 Speaker 2: played college against that were late round draft picks. 1067 00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,120 Speaker 1: In these preseason games where he was an. 1068 00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,440 Speaker 2: All purpose yards leader in college, He's not doing it 1069 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,760 Speaker 2: against the top guys, and when he did it against 1070 00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,360 Speaker 2: the top guys had a very sliver of opportunity, it 1071 00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,760 Speaker 2: didn't necessarily he's got a chance. 1072 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,919 Speaker 1: To show up. I think he's he's Uh, what could 1073 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:51,280 Speaker 1: be an answer to this next question? 1074 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:52,680 Speaker 5: We even talk about some of the things that he 1075 00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,200 Speaker 5: has going on right now. What's that about how they're 1076 00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:56,440 Speaker 5: how they're working him in that. 1077 00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,280 Speaker 1: Slot, putting him in the slot. 1078 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:00,480 Speaker 5: That's whatever what I read? 1079 00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:01,040 Speaker 1: I like it. 1080 00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,160 Speaker 4: A couple couple of positions here and there. 1081 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:07,719 Speaker 2: What would make your confidence level rise after what was 1082 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,080 Speaker 2: pretty much a slow off season? What would build your 1083 00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:14,480 Speaker 2: confidence in the preseason and in training camp to. 1084 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:19,400 Speaker 5: See a trade for a defense alignment, like a like 1085 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,720 Speaker 5: an entire interior defense alignment. 1086 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,959 Speaker 4: Okay, that would be what what pick are you willing 1087 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:25,520 Speaker 4: to give up. 1088 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:27,840 Speaker 5: That? I'm not sure? 1089 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, what's what's the trade value you're willing to. 1090 00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,279 Speaker 5: Part with that? I'm not sure? But right now my 1091 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:37,040 Speaker 5: confidence low in our ability to be able to defend 1092 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:38,520 Speaker 5: interior rent pressure. 1093 00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:42,600 Speaker 2: If I'm getting a big time interior defensive lineman starter 1094 00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:46,040 Speaker 2: who is a known pass rusher, which don't grow on trees, 1095 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,080 Speaker 2: and it's probably not going to be easy to trade for. 1096 00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,759 Speaker 2: I'd be willing to give up a third round pick, 1097 00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:52,879 Speaker 2: like a top one hundred pick. 1098 00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:56,480 Speaker 1: I'm not giving coming up. Yeah I would. I'm not 1099 00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,160 Speaker 1: going to give up a first for a second. I'm 1100 00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:01,480 Speaker 1: not doing that. But depending on player, Depending on the player. 1101 00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,800 Speaker 5: I don't think there's any other position group that I 1102 00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,719 Speaker 5: would be excited about it to say, Hey, Cowboys just 1103 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:11,080 Speaker 5: got substantially better. You got a receiver, okay, cool, another option. 1104 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,000 Speaker 5: You got a running back, okay cool? Somebody can tok 1105 00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:16,239 Speaker 5: the rock cornerback cool? All you go through all the positions, Yeah, 1106 00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,680 Speaker 5: I'm not getting excited about any other positions unless you 1107 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:20,960 Speaker 5: get a big defens alignment. You get a big defense alignment. 1108 00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,120 Speaker 5: Now I'm like, okay, all right, I see what you're 1109 00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:24,880 Speaker 5: all trying to do. Like that that gets me to 1110 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:26,719 Speaker 5: the edge of my seat because of who you're surrounding 1111 00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:27,399 Speaker 5: that person around. 1112 00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,520 Speaker 2: Does that mean you feel okay with where this offensive 1113 00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:30,279 Speaker 2: line is now? 1114 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,960 Speaker 5: I am waiting to see. I am I am highly anticipating. 1115 00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,520 Speaker 5: I think there's a lot of potential, and we use 1116 00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:38,920 Speaker 5: that word a lot. But I think with the guys 1117 00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:42,120 Speaker 5: that they have acquired, if they can put out right, 1118 00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,600 Speaker 5: if the big big Cooper in the inside, I think 1119 00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,279 Speaker 5: having a big physical presence there. Now you know, Tyler 1120 00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,720 Speaker 5: be Otish, thank you for your for your time, your dedication. 1121 00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,080 Speaker 5: But Cooper Beebe's a big boy. And if he can 1122 00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,200 Speaker 5: produce with that size and be a road grader, Oh 1123 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,080 Speaker 5: now you're cooking with fire. Because you got big Zach 1124 00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,080 Speaker 5: on the right, and you got Tyler Smith on the left. 1125 00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:00,440 Speaker 5: And if you got if you you can put the 1126 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,480 Speaker 5: big fellow out there on the left side. If he 1127 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:03,800 Speaker 5: can go out there a hold down to four and 1128 00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,520 Speaker 5: use his athleticism and be sound and confident in the 1129 00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,560 Speaker 5: calm with his feet. Now you got some rolling. Now 1130 00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,279 Speaker 5: you have something rolling. So yeah, I'm looking forward to it. 1131 00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,000 Speaker 5: I can't speak to it until they get the pads 1132 00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:15,319 Speaker 5: on good point. 1133 00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:19,080 Speaker 2: All right, That does it for us here on talking cowboys. 1134 00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:23,640 Speaker 2: Next time we're on a microphone, we will be West 1135 00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:28,680 Speaker 2: Coast living, West Coast Dreaming, California Dreaming and Oxnard, California 1136 00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,120 Speaker 2: Training Camp twenty twenty four. 1137 00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:32,080 Speaker 5: They not like us. 1138 00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,600 Speaker 1: It's right around the corner, right around the corner. 1139 00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:35,719 Speaker 5: Everybody is it is. 1140 00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,520 Speaker 2: It was good to be back for one final episode 1141 00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:41,120 Speaker 2: and then I will see you guys back. 1142 00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:42,919 Speaker 1: Out by the way before we leave. 1143 00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:48,719 Speaker 2: Speaking of thank you from here on out, mister Josh Rodriguez, 1144 00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:49,080 Speaker 2: it will be. 1145 00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:53,879 Speaker 1: A full time member of the Talking Cowboys crew very much. 1146 00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:55,000 Speaker 4: I appreciate the opportunity. 1147 00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,520 Speaker 3: I'm happy to be here a Talk Cowboys. 1148 00:50:57,760 --> 00:50:59,520 Speaker 1: That's the whole point, right, can't wait. 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