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<v Speaker 1>Hey, Daniel, have physicists gotten any better at naming their experiments? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's check in. Here's a paper by the ASK CAP

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<v Speaker 1>Rotation Measure and Polarization Investigation Team, also known as ARMPIT.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what the best part of that is?

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<v Speaker 1>Is the ask CAP or the arm PIT. There's also

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<v Speaker 1>the background Imaging of Cosmic extra galactric Polarization or bicep alright,

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<v Speaker 1>a mothly acronym. Well, if you're not into the aggressive ones,

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<v Speaker 1>then you won't like the balloon born Large Aperture submillimeter

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<v Speaker 1>telescope or last. Oh nice, although technically that one should

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<v Speaker 1>be blast balloon born. Guest need more? You know, positive,

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<v Speaker 1>upbeat science names. Well, then, what do you think of

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<v Speaker 1>the project called Super Huge Interferometric Telescope or s H

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<v Speaker 1>I T It sounds like a crappy title. What is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Study dark Matter? I am Pammy, cartoonist and the creator

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<v Speaker 1>of PhD comics. Hi, I'm Daniel. I'm a particle physicist

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<v Speaker 1>and a professor at U c Irvine, and I'm definitely

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<v Speaker 1>not an astronomer. Why not, Daniel not a fan of

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<v Speaker 1>the stars. I love the stars and I love the

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<v Speaker 1>mysteries of the universe. And I am a professor in

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<v Speaker 1>the physics and astronomy department, so I sometimes get emails

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<v Speaker 1>that address me as an astronomer, and I wonder what

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<v Speaker 1>the real astronomers in my department would think about that. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's an interesting distinction, right, It's called physics and astronomy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's astronomy, not part of physics. You have hit on

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<v Speaker 1>an existential question for astronomers that see them struggling with

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<v Speaker 1>every single day. Really they don't know, Wow, they don't

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<v Speaker 1>consider themselves physicists. I hesitate to speak for the astronomers

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<v Speaker 1>out there, but I definitely know that they feel like

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<v Speaker 1>a different community. You know. It's a different set of skills,

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<v Speaker 1>a different set of questions, a different set of ideas,

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<v Speaker 1>and also like a different set of classes that astronomy

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<v Speaker 1>students and physics students take. Interesting, but fundamentally, you were

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<v Speaker 1>both trying to study how things work out there in

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<v Speaker 1>the universe, right, Yeah, But I guess all scientists are

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<v Speaker 1>right from that point of view, chemists are physicists, biologists

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<v Speaker 1>or physicists, but our physicists chemists only physical chemists. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to our podcast. Daniel and Jorge explain the Universe a

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<v Speaker 1>production of I Heart Radio in which we believe everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>a physicist, even the chemists and the biologists and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>even the sociologists, because we all want to understand how

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<v Speaker 1>the universe works. We want to apply our tools, the

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<v Speaker 1>eyeballs that are in our head and the eyeballs that

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<v Speaker 1>we can build, to answer the deepest questions about the

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<v Speaker 1>nature of the universe. What is out there on those

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<v Speaker 1>other planets, surrounding those other weird stars, in those other

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<v Speaker 1>swirling galaxies, and what can it tell us about the

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<v Speaker 1>nature of the universe we live in, where it came from,

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<v Speaker 1>and how it will all end. Yeah, it is a

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<v Speaker 1>swirly universe full of amazing facts and incredible objects out

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<v Speaker 1>there doing incredible things that we just want to know

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<v Speaker 1>more about. Every time we look at into the universe,

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<v Speaker 1>we discover something new and weird, because the universe is

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<v Speaker 1>stranger than fiction. When you think you understood something and

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<v Speaker 1>you point your telescope about it justice sort of double check,

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<v Speaker 1>you find something bizarre, like the Fermi bubbles or astrophysical jets,

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<v Speaker 1>or neutron stars or pulsars, or any other sort of

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<v Speaker 1>weird surprise that nature has in store. For us. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it does all sound like basketball teams. Dan, is there

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<v Speaker 1>like an intramural physics department league? That's right. You've gotta

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<v Speaker 1>be able to dunk to get on the astrophysical Jets team. Know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's not a whole lot of dunking going on in

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<v Speaker 1>the physics league. I gotta be honest, only donuts on coffee. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>more sort of like Twitter dunking than actual physics dounking.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's right. We all want to know. We're all

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<v Speaker 1>scientists in a way. Everyone has curiosity and questions about

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<v Speaker 1>the universe, and just asking the questions sort of kind

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<v Speaker 1>of qualifies you as a scientist, doesn't it. Yeah, everybody

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<v Speaker 1>out there is doing science. If you're asking questions about

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<v Speaker 1>the universe, remember that science is not some weird institution

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<v Speaker 1>in a tall building somewhere. It's just a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>people asking questions about how the universe works and deciding

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<v Speaker 1>to dedicate their lives to answering one particular question about

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<v Speaker 1>the universe. So if you have a question that's burning

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<v Speaker 1>deep inside you about the way the universe works, then

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you can help push forward the envelope of human knowledge. Yeah, maybe,

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<v Speaker 1>like maybe your department should just be called the science department, right,

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<v Speaker 1>or I guess you're all, you know, a science part

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<v Speaker 1>of being humans, So maybe you should just be the

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<v Speaker 1>human Department. The department that sounds like a John Grisham

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<v Speaker 1>novel about science department gone bad, Daniel, you could be

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<v Speaker 1>the John Grisham of physics. You could write thriller novels

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<v Speaker 1>about his conspiracies. We don't tenure anyone, We just take

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<v Speaker 1>ten years to chew them up. There you go, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the tagline for the for your debut, Noveum. That's right, Netflix,

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<v Speaker 1>right to me? Please we joke. But that's a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit the history of science, right. It all started out

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<v Speaker 1>as philosophy, and then when a question becomes sort of

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<v Speaker 1>well enough formed for people to do, experimented buds off

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<v Speaker 1>into its own area of science, and then it splits

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<v Speaker 1>further and further into sub areas. And joke with my

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<v Speaker 1>wife a lot, because while the physics department is the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest department on our campus and on many campuses, that's

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<v Speaker 1>only because they're like nine different biology departments. So all

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<v Speaker 1>in all, these like ten times as many biologists as

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<v Speaker 1>physicists on campus. If only they knew you could put

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<v Speaker 1>this all the names in one department title, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like physics and astronomy. Yeah, exactly. Or I guess you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're all part of the universe, so really should just

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<v Speaker 1>be the universe department, or maybe like the university. Is

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<v Speaker 1>that where that name comes from? I have no idea

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<v Speaker 1>actually where the word university comes from. May it's an acronym.

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<v Speaker 1>It stands for a university hit internally versus I ran

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<v Speaker 1>out a steam hapway through. Yeah, it's train is resources, research,

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<v Speaker 1>science and engineering. Damn, we almost got there. We almost

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<v Speaker 1>got there. But it is a pretty wonderful universe, full

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<v Speaker 1>of things to think about and to wonder about, including

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<v Speaker 1>all of the amazing light and information that's out there

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<v Speaker 1>for us to see. Exactly. While so much of the

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<v Speaker 1>universe is incredible and beautiful just in the visible light

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<v Speaker 1>that our eyes can see, we also know that the

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<v Speaker 1>universe looks quite different in other kinds of light, in

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<v Speaker 1>light where the wavelengths are too long for our eyes

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<v Speaker 1>to see, radio and infrared, and also in very high

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<v Speaker 1>energy photons that are above our visible spectrum, in the

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<v Speaker 1>ultra violet and deep into the X ray. Yeah, because

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<v Speaker 1>humans have a sort of a very limited view of

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<v Speaker 1>what we can see out there with light, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>almost like the universe isn't just there for us. It's

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<v Speaker 1>doing all kinds of things in other parts of the

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<v Speaker 1>light spectrum, just the same way your doctor can see

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<v Speaker 1>very different things about your body using X rays which

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<v Speaker 1>passed through all the soft tissue and reveal the location

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<v Speaker 1>of the bones that they came using visible light just

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<v Speaker 1>by looking on the outside. Astronomers can also X ray

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<v Speaker 1>the universe by looking at the X ray photons that

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<v Speaker 1>arrive here on Earth. Yeah, do they have special like

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<v Speaker 1>X ray glasses how you can order from the back

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<v Speaker 1>of comic books. You want to see through the close

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<v Speaker 1>of astronomers. Is that what's going on? Yeah, you woul't

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<v Speaker 1>like what you see. Probably not all those donuts, not

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of biceps. But we do have very special

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<v Speaker 1>X ray eyeballs that we have built. Since our eyeballs

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<v Speaker 1>can't see X ray light, we had to develop special

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<v Speaker 1>technology to focus, to shape, to detect these X ray

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<v Speaker 1>photons and to use them to answer deep questions about

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<v Speaker 1>what's out there in the universe. You make it sound

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<v Speaker 1>like astronomers have like special implants in their eyeballs that

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<v Speaker 1>give them x ray vision. That's the future man, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Just Step one is build a big device that weighs

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<v Speaker 1>like a ton and sits outside your body, and eventually

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<v Speaker 1>you miniaturize it and implant it right in the brain. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>step wants to get your own department, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>can order that kind of stuff. That's the goal. I

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<v Speaker 1>just want the department of Daniel. There you go, and

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<v Speaker 1>your subject matter is just whatever I want. Maybe actually

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the department wants me to have my

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<v Speaker 1>own department. I'm gonna get kicked out. You could be

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<v Speaker 1>the chair of your own department. You have just a

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<v Speaker 1>chair and be the chair. There should be some adage

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<v Speaker 1>like he who has himself his department chair has a

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<v Speaker 1>fool for a faculty member. But anyways, there is a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of incredible stuff happening out there in the universe

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<v Speaker 1>in the X ray spectrum. It's not just good for

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<v Speaker 1>looking at your bones or your teeth. Uh. There are

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<v Speaker 1>also incredible things happening in stars and neutron stars and

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<v Speaker 1>pulsars out there, and even black holes that we could

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<v Speaker 1>learn if we can see better in this part of

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<v Speaker 1>the spectrum. Because remember that different parts of the universe

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<v Speaker 1>are at different temperatures, and that something's temperature determined the

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<v Speaker 1>light it emits. Our Sun emits light in the visible

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<v Speaker 1>spectrum because its surface is around five thousand kelvin, and

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<v Speaker 1>the Earth emits light in the infrared because it is

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<v Speaker 1>much much cooler. And you emit light in the infrared

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<v Speaker 1>because you are also cooler than the Sun but hotter

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<v Speaker 1>than the Earth. And things out there that are super

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<v Speaker 1>duper hot, like the surface of neutron stars or jets

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<v Speaker 1>near black holes, they only emit in the X ray.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you look at some corner of the universe,

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<v Speaker 1>it might seem dark until you turn on your X

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<v Speaker 1>ray eyeballs and then all of a sudden, it's glowing

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<v Speaker 1>very brightly. Yeah. But I think what's also cool is that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like our Sun emits both light in the

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<v Speaker 1>visible spectrum, but also it emits X rays right like

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<v Speaker 1>you can look up pictures of X ray what the

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<v Speaker 1>Sun looks like with X ray glasses. Yeah, the Sun

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<v Speaker 1>emits all kinds of radiation that our eye can't see,

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<v Speaker 1>from infrared light all the way up to X rays

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<v Speaker 1>and even in articles. We talked recently about how you

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<v Speaker 1>could see the Sun in new trinos if you had

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<v Speaker 1>new trino glasses. So while it's true that the Sun

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<v Speaker 1>peaks in the visible spectrum that's where a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>its light is emitted, it's not exclusive to the visible spectrum.

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<v Speaker 1>It also does produce some X rays and it tells

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<v Speaker 1>a different story. If you look at a picture of

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<v Speaker 1>the Sun in infrared or visible or X ray, you

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<v Speaker 1>see sort of different parts of the Sun. Different things

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<v Speaker 1>are going on. Yeah, And so if the more we

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<v Speaker 1>can see in other parts of the light spectrum, the

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<v Speaker 1>more we can learn about the universe. And so humans

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<v Speaker 1>have been building better and better X ray telescopes, and

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<v Speaker 1>as part of our mission to be nicer to astronomers,

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<v Speaker 1>we let them give them really silly names like the

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<v Speaker 1>nicer telescope and I C E R. Yeah. So to

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<v Speaker 1>the end, the program will be tagging the question what

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<v Speaker 1>does the nicer telescope study? Now, Daniel, isn't the answer obvious?

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't it study things that the less nice telescopes can study.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a huge rivalry and astronomy between the nicer telescope

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<v Speaker 1>and the meaner telescope to see which is better for

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<v Speaker 1>learning about the universe. But then there's the third rivalry

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<v Speaker 1>there with the naughty astronomers. Are you nice, naughty or

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<v Speaker 1>net or nasty or mean? You said mean, right, meter

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<v Speaker 1>telescope exactly. We know who's getting the Christmas presents from Santa,

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<v Speaker 1>but who's getting the goods about the universe. No, there's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing nice or mean about the Nicer Telescope. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>a ridiculous acronym. It stands for neutron Star Interior Composition

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<v Speaker 1>explore Er. They pulled that are at the from the

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<v Speaker 1>end of Explorer to make it nicer. Why not just

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<v Speaker 1>call it the nice Telescope? Why did they have to

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<v Speaker 1>pull up the R from me from the end? I

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<v Speaker 1>have no idea. The nice Telescope sounds pretty good, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but I guess they wanted if you need to win

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<v Speaker 1>a grand proposal these days, you know, not just nice nicer. Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>I see, it's like two point Oh, it's like nice

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<v Speaker 1>two point oh, next generation of nice Telescope. I also

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<v Speaker 1>like how they skipped the star. They're just like, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just not include star in our acronym. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 1>really should be like the Ciser. Now I see why

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<v Speaker 1>they skipped the star. Well, I guess they want to

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<v Speaker 1>leave room so that the next one could be the

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<v Speaker 1>nicest telescope. Then where do they go from there? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>double nice, double nicest, uber nice to go for the

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<v Speaker 1>Mother Teresa telescope. I guess they haven't named themselves on

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<v Speaker 1>corner of the way the ground based telescopes have. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they've got an extremely large, ultra large, absurdly large telescope.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that for real? Is there an absurdely large telescope?

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<v Speaker 1>Official name? No, I'm joking. The actual title of it

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<v Speaker 1>is called the overwhelmingly Large Telescope. And that's a real title,

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<v Speaker 1>of a regular real title. No, that is overwhelmingly crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>The biggest telescope that's actually gonna be bilt is called

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<v Speaker 1>extremely large. Overwhelmingly large was a little overwhelmingly large, and

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<v Speaker 1>so it wasn't actually funded. It was overwhelmingly rejected. I

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<v Speaker 1>was overwhelmingly excited about it. But we could learn a

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<v Speaker 1>huge amount about the universe. But anyway, they were under welmed.

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<v Speaker 1>It's certainly underfunded. But this is a new telescope, sort

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<v Speaker 1>of relatively new in the last couple of years that's

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<v Speaker 1>out there studying the X rays that are coming to

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<v Speaker 1>us from other parts of the universe. So we can

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<v Speaker 1>study amazing things and we were wondering how many people

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<v Speaker 1>had heard of this telescope and what it's studying. So

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel went out there into the wilds of the internet

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<v Speaker 1>to ask people the question, what do you think the

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<v Speaker 1>Nicer Telescope studies? And I'm continuously indebted to those of

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<v Speaker 1>you who are willing to volunteer to answer these questions

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<v Speaker 1>and give us a sense for what people know and

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<v Speaker 1>what they are curious about. If you'd like to participate,

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<v Speaker 1>please write to us two questions at Daniel and Jore

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. Everybody's welcome. Here's what people had to say

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<v Speaker 1>my guests on what Nicer Telescope Study stands for or

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<v Speaker 1>the acronym nicer is Nebula interstellar clinical EFORK research where

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<v Speaker 1>I think we study the actual beauty of nebulas through

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<v Speaker 1>a telescope and it's a fact on psychedelic trips, clothing patterns,

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<v Speaker 1>and obsession among humans. Well, this is um my favorite subject.

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<v Speaker 1>No turn stars, so nice will study no tron stars.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what I have until now, not know how

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<v Speaker 1>it will work and when it will be on, but

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<v Speaker 1>can wait to find out more. I have no idea

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<v Speaker 1>the Nicer Telescope studies how nice things are or does

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<v Speaker 1>it study ice like the end stands for something I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, and then ice like does it? Is it

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<v Speaker 1>some telescope that's going to find more water on Mars

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<v Speaker 1>or other moons of the Solar System or exoplanets or

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Yeah, I'll go with that. The nicer

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<v Speaker 1>telescope studies ice on other select soul bodies. Nicer, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's gonna be some acronym that's good for funding. So

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<v Speaker 1>how about nearly impossibly cool electromagnetic radiation? I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to make up some gas of the acronym. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I've never heard of it. All right, I'm surprised nobody

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<v Speaker 1>said nice things. I like the person who said it

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<v Speaker 1>studies how nice things are? You can measure the niceness

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<v Speaker 1>of astrophysical objects like, oh, that black hole looks so nice?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you measure that? Are their physical units for that?

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<v Speaker 1>For nicety it's measured in oz. But it is a

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<v Speaker 1>sort of an interesting telescope to talk about, and lots

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<v Speaker 1>of fascinating exploration that it's doing. And so Daniel, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>step us through this again. What is nicer stand for?

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<v Speaker 1>So nicer stands for again? Neutron Star Interior Composition Explorer,

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<v Speaker 1>which tells you already a little bit about its mission.

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<v Speaker 1>It's designed to understand the interior of Neutron Star. We

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<v Speaker 1>call this thing a telescope, but if you saw to

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<v Speaker 1>this thing, you wouldn't think that's a telescope, right. I

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<v Speaker 1>have a picture of here in front of me, and

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<v Speaker 1>it looks like a refrigerator, basically like a box, like

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<v Speaker 1>a refrigerator box. It looks more like a particle physics

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<v Speaker 1>detector because it kind of is. It's it's right on

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<v Speaker 1>the boundary between the kind of devices that astronomers built,

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<v Speaker 1>like classical telescopes, and those devices that particle physicists build,

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<v Speaker 1>which are basically always look like the board ship. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and this one is kind of It looks like a cube,

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<v Speaker 1>and it has a frame and it's got some like

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<v Speaker 1>a grid on one side, so it does sort of

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<v Speaker 1>look like an air conditioning unit that you would see

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<v Speaker 1>sticking out of a window. It does look like an

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<v Speaker 1>air conditioning unit. And it's basically just a box with

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of tubes in it. And the reason it's

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<v Speaker 1>so different from the kind of telescope you imagine when

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<v Speaker 1>you think about Hubble or when you go to your

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<v Speaker 1>astronomy night at your nearby university. Is because X rays

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<v Speaker 1>are very very different from visible light in how they

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<v Speaker 1>interact with matter, So you need a very different kind

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<v Speaker 1>of system to like gather the light and to bend

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<v Speaker 1>it and to focus it. Because X rays mostly just

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<v Speaker 1>go through stuff like X rays would go right through

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<v Speaker 1>hubble nicely, So even if you had a lens, the

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<v Speaker 1>X rays, which just goes through the glass, that they

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't ben necessarily. That's right. X rays, when it hid

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<v Speaker 1>an object sort of head on that way the way

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<v Speaker 1>you might hit a lens, they would just penetrate through

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<v Speaker 1>because they have very high frequency. And remember that while

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<v Speaker 1>air and glass seemed transparent to us in the visible light,

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<v Speaker 1>different things are transparent or opaque to X rays. And

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<v Speaker 1>so while your body is mostly transparent to X rays,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why you can use it to take a

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<v Speaker 1>picture of your insides, the air is mostly opaque to

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<v Speaker 1>X rays. Like our atmosphere blocks almost all X rays,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why all the X ray telescopes have to

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<v Speaker 1>be like on balloons or on or in space. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why this one is attached to the International Space Station,

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<v Speaker 1>and so you can't use typical optics to gather and

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<v Speaker 1>focus X rays for that reason. Interesting, but can it

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<v Speaker 1>focus at all or is it are there any moving

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<v Speaker 1>parts to it or is it just a box with

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<v Speaker 1>little sensors in it. It's mostly a box with collimating sensors.

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<v Speaker 1>So you have these tubes and the X ray hits

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<v Speaker 1>one of the tubes, and at the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>tube is a little detector that tells you I got

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<v Speaker 1>an X ray. And the idea is that these are collimators,

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<v Speaker 1>and so you can sort of point this thing in

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<v Speaker 1>one direction and that limits the focus, so you're not

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<v Speaker 1>just getting X rays from the whole universe onto the

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<v Speaker 1>back plane, which is where your detectors are. You have,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, a bunch of tubes, so you can

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<v Speaker 1>only look sort of in one direction. So that's one

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<v Speaker 1>aspect of these tubes there, collimators. They restrict your field

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<v Speaker 1>of view, so you know what you're looking at. They're

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<v Speaker 1>literally sort of like looking through a tube kind of,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like a cardboard tube. If you look through it,

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<v Speaker 1>it limits you to only look at one thing in

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<v Speaker 1>front of you. Yeah, and that's the way your eye

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<v Speaker 1>works also, right, The reason that our eyes are in

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<v Speaker 1>set inside our heads and behind a little hole, so

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<v Speaker 1>you can tell sort of where the light came from

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<v Speaker 1>based on where it hits the back of your eye,

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<v Speaker 1>rather than just having light sensitive cells on the surface

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<v Speaker 1>where you can just tell that there is light or

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<v Speaker 1>there isn't light. And so by having these tubes in

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<v Speaker 1>front of your X ray detectors, you can tell when

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<v Speaker 1>the X ray hits detector at the back of the

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<v Speaker 1>tube where it came from. And it's a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>better than that because the tubes also do a very

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<v Speaker 1>small amount of focusing. What do you mean, Well, it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to focus X rays when they hit straight on,

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<v Speaker 1>but you can do like grazing focusing. If an X

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<v Speaker 1>ray comes in at a very high angle to some surfaces,

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<v Speaker 1>to some kinds of materials, they will bounce off at

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<v Speaker 1>a slightly different angle. So they have these really weird

0:19:21.359 --> 0:19:23.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of they call them lenses, but they're nothing like

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<v Speaker 1>what you would recognize that These very special shapes are

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<v Speaker 1>called paraboloids and hyperboloids and their designs. So the X

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<v Speaker 1>ray comes in at a very high angle and then

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<v Speaker 1>gets bent very slightly towards your detector, so it's sort

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<v Speaker 1>of like the tube is larger on one side and

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<v Speaker 1>smaller on the other, and it just sort of like

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<v Speaker 1>tapers a little bit to gather the X rays down

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<v Speaker 1>to the bottom. So it does have like a focusing lens.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just not made out of glass. It's not made

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<v Speaker 1>out of glass. This thing is made out of twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four concentric shells of aluminum that are coated in gold,

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<v Speaker 1>and the gold has the right properties to sort of

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<v Speaker 1>change the angle the X rays just a little bit. Remember,

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<v Speaker 1>these are very very high energy photons, so it's very

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<v Speaker 1>hard to bend them at all. Sounds expensive exactly. And

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<v Speaker 1>they have fifty six of these tubes, and on the

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<v Speaker 1>back plane they have silicon detectors that can detect these

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<v Speaker 1>X rays. When X ray smashes into it, it like

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<v Speaker 1>releases an electron that's in the silicon wafer in the

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<v Speaker 1>neck and get picked up by a circuitry. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>basically just like a digital camera on the back plane

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<v Speaker 1>that's sensitive to X rays that are focused onto it

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<v Speaker 1>by these very gradually tapering tubes. And so these tubes

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<v Speaker 1>are kind of in a box, and this box is

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<v Speaker 1>sort of like attached the to the outside of the

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<v Speaker 1>International Space Station. Yeah, it's got like a little arm

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<v Speaker 1>and it's stuck to the space station and they can

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<v Speaker 1>turn it so they can point at different things, like

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<v Speaker 1>a look at this star and look at that star.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's maintained by the astronauts, and it was just

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<v Speaker 1>done recently. It's it's sort of in the last few years, right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was installed in two thousand seventeen, So the space

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<v Speaker 1>station has been up there for decades, right, but they

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<v Speaker 1>keep adding to the science mission. It's pretty cool to

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<v Speaker 1>have a facility in space where you can all new

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<v Speaker 1>stuff and you can have people maintain it and control it.

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<v Speaker 1>And so this has been up there for the last

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<v Speaker 1>five years and it's done a lot of really interesting

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<v Speaker 1>science already. And it's sort of name with the word

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<v Speaker 1>neutron star in its name, but it actually sort of

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<v Speaker 1>studies a wider range of X rays, right, what are

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<v Speaker 1>called soft X rays. Yeah, we have a variety of

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<v Speaker 1>X ray telescopes. You might have heard of Chandra and

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<v Speaker 1>other space based telescopes that are capable of seeing the

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<v Speaker 1>sky in X rays. But to study neutron stars were

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<v Speaker 1>interested in a very particular kind of X ray, sort

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<v Speaker 1>of on the less energetic side of the typical X

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<v Speaker 1>ray spectrum from around two electron volts up to about

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<v Speaker 1>twelve thousand electron volts. And this is what we call

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<v Speaker 1>soft X rays, soft just meaning a little bit lower

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<v Speaker 1>energy than like hard X rays m because the hard

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<v Speaker 1>X rays have not been approved. But definitely not for

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<v Speaker 1>the Nicer telescope. That's that's for the naughty telescope. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the n C seventeen telescope. Still, hey, that's where the

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<v Speaker 1>art comes from. I mean, that's where they kept R

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<v Speaker 1>at the end. But it does show us some very

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<v Speaker 1>dramatic and incredible things going on in the universe. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not just neutron stars. There's all kinds of

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<v Speaker 1>stuff out there that gives off X rays that reveal

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<v Speaker 1>amazing things about the universe. So let's get into the

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<v Speaker 1>things that Nicer is studying. But first let's take a

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<v Speaker 1>quick break. All right, we're talking about the Nicer telescope,

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<v Speaker 1>the neutron star Interior composition explore ER, which stands for

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<v Speaker 1>nice sort of you gotta say the error at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of it. You can't just say explore, you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>say explore er. Acronyms. I guess there are no laws

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<v Speaker 1>or rules about acronyms. Right, you can pretty much do

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you want. You can grab letters, ignore letters, right,

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<v Speaker 1>why not? If there are any rules in astronomy is

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<v Speaker 1>busy breaking them. There are some really ridiculous acronyms out there,

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<v Speaker 1>the rebels the astronomy community. That's why they need their

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<v Speaker 1>own department. I feel like there's this trend in science.

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<v Speaker 1>Every time you come up with a new idea, it

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<v Speaker 1>needs a name and an acronym, so you can like

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<v Speaker 1>brand it your cool new idea, what happened to name

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<v Speaker 1>in it after yourself? May you're encouraged to do both,

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<v Speaker 1>like make an act like Champ could be a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>cool heterogenetic amazing monitor, convolutional high altitude mechanic. There you go.

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<v Speaker 1>I am a mechanical engineer. Yeah, all right. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is a telescope out there up there, attached to the

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<v Speaker 1>International Space Station, and it's made out of a little

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<v Speaker 1>tubes that can collect X rays from specific points in space,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's been studying all kinds of things, including neutron stars. So, Daniel,

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<v Speaker 1>what is a neutron star? A neutron star is a

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<v Speaker 1>super fascinating object. It's basically the remnant of a massive

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<v Speaker 1>super giant star that collapsed. Remember that stars burned for

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<v Speaker 1>a long time because they have very hot interiors, and

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<v Speaker 1>they have the fuel needed to perform fusion, like to

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<v Speaker 1>squeeze hydrogen together in to heat hum and then squeeze

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<v Speaker 1>that helium into something else and then squeeze that into

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<v Speaker 1>something else, and they get heavier and heavier and heavier,

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<v Speaker 1>where the byproducts of fusion produced the byproducts of the

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<v Speaker 1>next round of fusion until they no longer can until

0:24:11.440 --> 0:24:15.000
<v Speaker 1>they're making iron, which cools the star down and causes

0:24:15.040 --> 0:24:18.200
<v Speaker 1>it to collapse. So eventually gravity wins its battle against

0:24:18.240 --> 0:24:21.160
<v Speaker 1>fusion and collapses the star. And depending on the mass

0:24:21.160 --> 0:24:23.879
<v Speaker 1>of the original lump of stuff you started with, you

0:24:23.920 --> 0:24:25.879
<v Speaker 1>can get a black hole if you have enough stuff,

0:24:26.200 --> 0:24:28.440
<v Speaker 1>or you can get a neutron star, which is just

0:24:28.480 --> 0:24:32.360
<v Speaker 1>this really hot, very dense clump of matter left over

0:24:32.440 --> 0:24:35.000
<v Speaker 1>the core of a star after it has collapsed. Yeah,

0:24:35.040 --> 0:24:37.120
<v Speaker 1>it's it's sort of like one half step up from

0:24:37.160 --> 0:24:39.000
<v Speaker 1>a black hole, right, Like, we we had a whole

0:24:39.000 --> 0:24:42.040
<v Speaker 1>episode about neutron stars, and they're just kind of like

0:24:42.080 --> 0:24:45.159
<v Speaker 1>what happens when light is just almost compressed enough to

0:24:45.200 --> 0:24:47.760
<v Speaker 1>make a black hole. There are various ways that you

0:24:47.800 --> 0:24:50.920
<v Speaker 1>can resist the pole of gravity. Right, a burning star

0:24:51.000 --> 0:24:53.800
<v Speaker 1>resisted by producing all this energy that puffs out its

0:24:53.800 --> 0:24:56.560
<v Speaker 1>outer layers and prevents it from collapsing further. Once gravity

0:24:56.560 --> 0:24:59.119
<v Speaker 1>has overcome bath, there's like another threshold, which is this

0:24:59.320 --> 0:25:02.480
<v Speaker 1>electron to generously threshold. The electrons don't want to get

0:25:02.520 --> 0:25:05.840
<v Speaker 1>squeezed together as closely as gravity wants to squeeze them,

0:25:05.880 --> 0:25:08.119
<v Speaker 1>and they resist. But if you add more mass to it,

0:25:08.119 --> 0:25:11.080
<v Speaker 1>it can overcome even that and then produce a black hole.

0:25:11.160 --> 0:25:13.760
<v Speaker 1>It's like the last holdout. It's like matters, last line

0:25:13.760 --> 0:25:16.920
<v Speaker 1>of defense. Yeah, and but they do they inevitably become

0:25:16.960 --> 0:25:19.720
<v Speaker 1>black holes or can they you know, resist becoming a

0:25:19.720 --> 0:25:22.919
<v Speaker 1>black hole forever. Neutron stars, we think are stable. They

0:25:22.960 --> 0:25:26.280
<v Speaker 1>can resist becoming a black hole unless they gather more mass.

0:25:26.320 --> 0:25:29.480
<v Speaker 1>There's a maximum mass to the neutron stars, we think,

0:25:29.840 --> 0:25:32.000
<v Speaker 1>but that's not something we understand very well. Like we

0:25:32.080 --> 0:25:35.280
<v Speaker 1>have pretty basic questions about neutron stars, like how much

0:25:35.320 --> 0:25:38.040
<v Speaker 1>mass is in a neutron star, how big can they get,

0:25:38.200 --> 0:25:40.800
<v Speaker 1>or how wide are they? We know that neutron stars

0:25:40.840 --> 0:25:43.800
<v Speaker 1>are super duper dense. They have like one and a

0:25:43.880 --> 0:25:47.000
<v Speaker 1>half times the mass of our sun. Squeezed into an

0:25:47.040 --> 0:25:50.280
<v Speaker 1>object with a radius of like fifteen kilometers, but we

0:25:50.320 --> 0:25:52.560
<v Speaker 1>don't really know what the boundaries are, like, can you

0:25:52.600 --> 0:25:55.560
<v Speaker 1>get a two solar mass neutron star or does it

0:25:55.640 --> 0:25:58.560
<v Speaker 1>collapse into a black hole? Mm hmm, interesting, I guess

0:25:58.720 --> 0:26:00.720
<v Speaker 1>maybe a question is if they are sort of close

0:26:00.760 --> 0:26:04.840
<v Speaker 1>to black hole and they're not effusing anymore, meaning exploding

0:26:04.840 --> 0:26:07.800
<v Speaker 1>in giving of light, how do we like know where

0:26:07.800 --> 0:26:09.800
<v Speaker 1>they are, how do we find them? And have we

0:26:09.840 --> 0:26:12.600
<v Speaker 1>actually seen one? We have seen neutron stars, but you're right,

0:26:12.640 --> 0:26:14.639
<v Speaker 1>they are hard to see because they don't glow in

0:26:14.640 --> 0:26:18.399
<v Speaker 1>the visible But the incredible gravity means incredible temperatures and

0:26:18.440 --> 0:26:22.000
<v Speaker 1>incredible pressures, and under those conditions they tend to produce

0:26:22.280 --> 0:26:24.600
<v Speaker 1>X rays. So the surface of a neutron star has

0:26:24.640 --> 0:26:28.439
<v Speaker 1>this crust. It's really incredibly intense environment, and as that

0:26:28.480 --> 0:26:32.000
<v Speaker 1>crust like rubs and bumps and has star quakes, it

0:26:32.080 --> 0:26:35.000
<v Speaker 1>produces flashes of light X rays that we can see

0:26:35.200 --> 0:26:38.800
<v Speaker 1>with our fancy eyeballs on the International Space Station. Interesting,

0:26:38.880 --> 0:26:40.679
<v Speaker 1>and it has like a shiny coat to it, you know,

0:26:40.720 --> 0:26:43.560
<v Speaker 1>like most stars in mid light sort of from the insides,

0:26:43.600 --> 0:26:46.560
<v Speaker 1>but this one, you're saying, neutron stars in mid light

0:26:47.080 --> 0:26:50.359
<v Speaker 1>and X rays on the surface. Yeah, that's the prevailing model.

0:26:50.440 --> 0:26:54.240
<v Speaker 1>Although we don't really understand what's going on with neutron stars.

0:26:54.640 --> 0:26:57.159
<v Speaker 1>One of the core questions is like what is the

0:26:57.200 --> 0:27:00.480
<v Speaker 1>state of matter and the inside of neutron stars. It's

0:27:00.520 --> 0:27:03.800
<v Speaker 1>a situation that's so hot and so dense that all

0:27:03.920 --> 0:27:07.320
<v Speaker 1>four forces come into play. I mean usually gravity, which

0:27:07.359 --> 0:27:09.760
<v Speaker 1>is the weakest force, can be mostly ignored when you're

0:27:09.760 --> 0:27:13.640
<v Speaker 1>talking about like forces between quirks, But inside a neutron star,

0:27:13.880 --> 0:27:17.280
<v Speaker 1>there's so much mass that gravity is as powerful as

0:27:17.320 --> 0:27:19.920
<v Speaker 1>the strong force, and you need to take into account

0:27:19.960 --> 0:27:22.520
<v Speaker 1>all the different forces if you can understand the nature

0:27:22.560 --> 0:27:24.960
<v Speaker 1>of what's going on in there. You know, we think

0:27:24.960 --> 0:27:27.960
<v Speaker 1>about like the neutron has three quarks and they're hanging out.

0:27:27.960 --> 0:27:30.440
<v Speaker 1>They've got gluons bound together. It's a happy little thing

0:27:30.480 --> 0:27:32.719
<v Speaker 1>you can last for a long time. Or protons are

0:27:32.800 --> 0:27:34.879
<v Speaker 1>very similar. But now take a bunch of those and

0:27:34.880 --> 0:27:37.480
<v Speaker 1>squeeze them all together. It's like you've got this ocean

0:27:37.560 --> 0:27:40.480
<v Speaker 1>of quirks that are floating around, creating this weird new

0:27:40.560 --> 0:27:42.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of thing. You could almost even think of it

0:27:42.800 --> 0:27:46.120
<v Speaker 1>as like one enormous particle, right because you're saying, it's

0:27:46.119 --> 0:27:48.840
<v Speaker 1>like they're squeezed so much that all of their usual

0:27:48.880 --> 0:27:51.640
<v Speaker 1>bonds don't work anymore, right, Like the bonds that key

0:27:51.800 --> 0:27:55.680
<v Speaker 1>electrons and protons and quarks together, all of that kind

0:27:55.720 --> 0:27:58.560
<v Speaker 1>of turns into a giant soup of stuff. Yeah, the

0:27:58.600 --> 0:28:00.879
<v Speaker 1>same forces are at a right, you still have the

0:28:00.920 --> 0:28:03.840
<v Speaker 1>strong force and the weak force, but their typical patterns,

0:28:04.040 --> 0:28:06.520
<v Speaker 1>the way that quarks form into a proton and make

0:28:06.560 --> 0:28:09.720
<v Speaker 1>a stable little package, those patterns are no longer relevant

0:28:09.760 --> 0:28:12.439
<v Speaker 1>because you have all these other forces on the outside

0:28:12.440 --> 0:28:14.960
<v Speaker 1>pulling them apart, and so we don't have an understanding

0:28:14.960 --> 0:28:17.480
<v Speaker 1>of what's going on inside that. That's why Nicer has

0:28:17.480 --> 0:28:20.679
<v Speaker 1>the word interior composition in it, because we want to

0:28:20.720 --> 0:28:23.879
<v Speaker 1>really understand what's going on on the inside of the

0:28:23.920 --> 0:28:27.320
<v Speaker 1>neutron star. It's a very strange environment and not something

0:28:27.359 --> 0:28:29.359
<v Speaker 1>that we typically see, and so we don't have a

0:28:29.359 --> 0:28:31.440
<v Speaker 1>lot of ways to probe it. We can't create those

0:28:31.440 --> 0:28:34.480
<v Speaker 1>conditions here on Earth, right, and they start of maybe

0:28:34.520 --> 0:28:37.040
<v Speaker 1>even start to get into the up to the boundary

0:28:37.080 --> 0:28:40.040
<v Speaker 1>of our knowledge about physics, right, Like, that's when you

0:28:40.040 --> 0:28:43.480
<v Speaker 1>start to questions things like how much is our things

0:28:43.560 --> 0:28:46.680
<v Speaker 1>quantum and how much are they special relativity. Yeah, describing

0:28:46.720 --> 0:28:48.760
<v Speaker 1>it as on the boundary of what we understand is

0:28:48.800 --> 0:28:52.360
<v Speaker 1>probably generous to our understanding. This is well beyond something

0:28:52.400 --> 0:28:54.760
<v Speaker 1>that we can model. We're trying to use the equations

0:28:54.760 --> 0:28:57.240
<v Speaker 1>of general relativity to describe what's going on on the

0:28:57.280 --> 0:28:59.040
<v Speaker 1>inside of the star. But you're right, we know they're

0:28:59.040 --> 0:29:01.560
<v Speaker 1>probably quantum of X there, and so that's why it's

0:29:01.600 --> 0:29:03.560
<v Speaker 1>a great way to test these things to say, like,

0:29:03.880 --> 0:29:06.920
<v Speaker 1>is it possible to understand the impact of quantum gravity

0:29:07.040 --> 0:29:11.000
<v Speaker 1>and the gravitational interactions between particles. Are those necessary to

0:29:11.080 --> 0:29:13.440
<v Speaker 1>understand what's going on inside there? Or do you just

0:29:13.560 --> 0:29:16.480
<v Speaker 1>need a really really big computer. And so we're trying

0:29:16.520 --> 0:29:18.320
<v Speaker 1>all sorts of different kind of things to like build

0:29:18.360 --> 0:29:20.280
<v Speaker 1>up models of what might be going on in the

0:29:20.280 --> 0:29:23.400
<v Speaker 1>inside of the neutron star. Unfortunately, we can't see the

0:29:23.440 --> 0:29:25.400
<v Speaker 1>inside of the neutron star. We can only see the

0:29:25.440 --> 0:29:28.040
<v Speaker 1>outside of it, but those X rays that are produced

0:29:28.040 --> 0:29:30.840
<v Speaker 1>by the outside give us clues about what might be

0:29:30.880 --> 0:29:33.240
<v Speaker 1>going on on the inside. Right, really just want to

0:29:33.240 --> 0:29:36.280
<v Speaker 1>know if it's nice inside as well as the outside.

0:29:37.600 --> 0:29:39.920
<v Speaker 1>Is it a candy coating around like a sour center,

0:29:40.240 --> 0:29:42.240
<v Speaker 1>or is there like chocolate inside? Could be on the

0:29:42.320 --> 0:29:44.520
<v Speaker 1>naughty list or the nice list. One thing we really

0:29:44.520 --> 0:29:47.520
<v Speaker 1>want to understand about the inside of neutron stars is

0:29:47.560 --> 0:29:50.240
<v Speaker 1>like what is the pressure, what is the density? What

0:29:50.400 --> 0:29:52.720
<v Speaker 1>is the speed of sound on the inside of a

0:29:52.720 --> 0:29:55.720
<v Speaker 1>neutron star? Because in very very dense environments, a speed

0:29:55.720 --> 0:29:57.840
<v Speaker 1>of sound can be up to like the speed of light.

0:29:58.280 --> 0:30:00.720
<v Speaker 1>Remember early on in our you and bursts, when things

0:30:00.720 --> 0:30:02.760
<v Speaker 1>were very very dense, we think the speed of sound

0:30:02.840 --> 0:30:06.120
<v Speaker 1>was about half of the speed of light. Imagine that.

0:30:06.200 --> 0:30:08.440
<v Speaker 1>And so in these environments we just don't know very

0:30:08.480 --> 0:30:11.240
<v Speaker 1>basic things about that, Like how does a neutron star

0:30:11.440 --> 0:30:14.600
<v Speaker 1>ring after there's a star quake on its surface? You know,

0:30:14.640 --> 0:30:17.320
<v Speaker 1>how do those sound waves penetrate and bounce around on

0:30:17.360 --> 0:30:19.800
<v Speaker 1>the inside? Wow? Like what happens if you like ring

0:30:19.840 --> 0:30:21.760
<v Speaker 1>a neutron star? Kind of Kerman And a lot of

0:30:21.840 --> 0:30:25.240
<v Speaker 1>these questions about the pressures and the densities determine what

0:30:25.400 --> 0:30:29.080
<v Speaker 1>masses and radii are allowed for a neutron star. Like

0:30:29.120 --> 0:30:30.960
<v Speaker 1>if you have one model of the pressure and the

0:30:31.000 --> 0:30:33.680
<v Speaker 1>density and how all these things are interacting, then you

0:30:33.760 --> 0:30:36.600
<v Speaker 1>have a relationship between the mass and the radius. Imagine

0:30:36.640 --> 0:30:39.560
<v Speaker 1>a graph of like mass versus radius and neutron stars,

0:30:39.880 --> 0:30:42.320
<v Speaker 1>you can't have neutron stars. Just like anywhere in that graph,

0:30:42.600 --> 0:30:45.920
<v Speaker 1>there's like a line through that plane where neutron stars

0:30:45.920 --> 0:30:49.000
<v Speaker 1>are allowed. They always fall along some line, and that

0:30:49.120 --> 0:30:52.240
<v Speaker 1>line is determined by the relationship between the pressure and

0:30:52.280 --> 0:30:54.360
<v Speaker 1>the density and all that stuff going on inside the

0:30:54.360 --> 0:30:57.040
<v Speaker 1>neutron star. So if we just knew, like what are

0:30:57.040 --> 0:30:59.800
<v Speaker 1>the masses of these neutron stars, what are their radii,

0:31:00.080 --> 0:31:01.760
<v Speaker 1>we can know a lot about what was going on

0:31:01.760 --> 0:31:04.040
<v Speaker 1>on the inside, right Because I guess what you're saying

0:31:04.080 --> 0:31:05.400
<v Speaker 1>is that you know, when you look out into the

0:31:05.520 --> 0:31:09.040
<v Speaker 1>night sky with just your eyes, you see stars shining

0:31:09.040 --> 0:31:11.520
<v Speaker 1>with your eyeball, but if you had X ray glasses,

0:31:11.520 --> 0:31:14.240
<v Speaker 1>you would also see some of these sources of X

0:31:14.320 --> 0:31:16.200
<v Speaker 1>rays that you you know or do you think are

0:31:16.320 --> 0:31:19.000
<v Speaker 1>neutron stars that were pretty sure are neutron stars you have.

0:31:19.120 --> 0:31:21.360
<v Speaker 1>We can see this stuff around them that suggests there

0:31:21.400 --> 0:31:23.680
<v Speaker 1>used to be a super giant star there, and then

0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:25.720
<v Speaker 1>we can look for X rays at the core and

0:31:25.760 --> 0:31:28.040
<v Speaker 1>that suggests that a neutron stars there. And I guess

0:31:28.080 --> 0:31:30.040
<v Speaker 1>the physics that that are going on inside of them

0:31:30.040 --> 0:31:33.240
<v Speaker 1>are so extreme that we don't know a lot about them,

0:31:33.280 --> 0:31:34.680
<v Speaker 1>And so that's why you want to look at them

0:31:34.680 --> 0:31:36.480
<v Speaker 1>with a telescope like this one. Yeah, and if we

0:31:36.520 --> 0:31:39.240
<v Speaker 1>could measure what are the masses of all these neutron stars,

0:31:39.240 --> 0:31:41.520
<v Speaker 1>what are the radio of all the neutron stars, then

0:31:41.560 --> 0:31:43.640
<v Speaker 1>we would have an idea of what might be going

0:31:43.640 --> 0:31:46.040
<v Speaker 1>on inside them, because those two are very closely connected.

0:31:46.120 --> 0:31:48.160
<v Speaker 1>You want to take like a survey, like a survey

0:31:48.240 --> 0:31:51.080
<v Speaker 1>like if you're wondering how do the bones work inside

0:31:51.080 --> 0:31:53.200
<v Speaker 1>an elephant? Like how do you even hold that thing up?

0:31:53.240 --> 0:31:54.840
<v Speaker 1>If you had a sense for like how big can

0:31:54.880 --> 0:31:57.200
<v Speaker 1>elephants get, it will give you a cluse to like, well,

0:31:57.240 --> 0:31:59.600
<v Speaker 1>how did that bone system work? And so we want

0:31:59.600 --> 0:32:01.640
<v Speaker 1>to know like how big can neutron stars get? What

0:32:01.800 --> 0:32:04.600
<v Speaker 1>neutron masses are allowed and not allowed? Now give us

0:32:04.600 --> 0:32:07.200
<v Speaker 1>an idea of like the composition the various layers of

0:32:07.240 --> 0:32:10.680
<v Speaker 1>the neutron star. Yeah, well, now you just grope zoology

0:32:10.760 --> 0:32:14.000
<v Speaker 1>into physics as well. They're all physicists in the end, right,

0:32:14.200 --> 0:32:17.640
<v Speaker 1>the physics of elephants. Next they'll be building an elephant collider.

0:32:17.880 --> 0:32:20.080
<v Speaker 1>That would be fun. Oh boy, you'll get in trouble

0:32:20.120 --> 0:32:22.520
<v Speaker 1>with the animal rights activists. I'll just call it the

0:32:22.640 --> 0:32:26.960
<v Speaker 1>nicer collider and it'll be fine. You call it the

0:32:27.200 --> 0:32:29.680
<v Speaker 1>animal Cruelty collider. Maybe I don't think they'll put you

0:32:29.680 --> 0:32:33.120
<v Speaker 1>in the nice list with Santa Daniel non intentional collisions

0:32:33.200 --> 0:32:36.640
<v Speaker 1>of elephants research. There you go, nicer. Well, neutron stars

0:32:36.640 --> 0:32:39.440
<v Speaker 1>start just one thing that the nicer telescope can study.

0:32:39.480 --> 0:32:42.800
<v Speaker 1>You can also study other incredible stars out there in

0:32:42.800 --> 0:32:45.640
<v Speaker 1>the universe. Right, that's right, that's because neutron stars are

0:32:45.680 --> 0:32:48.400
<v Speaker 1>so weird. They have like various categories of neutron stars

0:32:48.400 --> 0:32:51.480
<v Speaker 1>that do even weirder things than just like exist as

0:32:51.600 --> 0:32:54.720
<v Speaker 1>crazy high temperature and pressure, these weird blobs of matter.

0:32:55.160 --> 0:32:58.120
<v Speaker 1>We have stars like pulsars, which are a special kind

0:32:58.160 --> 0:33:02.280
<v Speaker 1>of spinning neutron star. Interesting like a neutron star can do,

0:33:02.680 --> 0:33:05.160
<v Speaker 1>can have different flavors to it, like they can do

0:33:05.160 --> 0:33:07.440
<v Speaker 1>different things. We talked about on the podcast once the

0:33:07.560 --> 0:33:10.200
<v Speaker 1>really weirdest stars in the universe, and some of the

0:33:10.200 --> 0:33:14.200
<v Speaker 1>stars in that category are things like magnetars and pulsars.

0:33:14.200 --> 0:33:19.360
<v Speaker 1>So magnetars are neutron stars with incredibly intense magnetic fields.

0:33:19.720 --> 0:33:21.920
<v Speaker 1>You know, we have a magnetic field on Earth because

0:33:21.920 --> 0:33:24.800
<v Speaker 1>of the swirling currents inside the Earth that we think

0:33:24.880 --> 0:33:27.840
<v Speaker 1>generate that magnetic field. And our star has a magnetic field,

0:33:28.040 --> 0:33:31.200
<v Speaker 1>but those are nothing compared to the magnetic fields generated

0:33:31.240 --> 0:33:35.640
<v Speaker 1>by these magnetars, which are really incredible. It's because kind

0:33:35.640 --> 0:33:37.720
<v Speaker 1>of like a neutron star is spinning, right, and sort

0:33:37.760 --> 0:33:39.600
<v Speaker 1>of sort of like when you have a magnet spinning,

0:33:40.000 --> 0:33:44.880
<v Speaker 1>it generates crazy magnetic fields. Yeah, that's exactly right. And magnetars.

0:33:44.960 --> 0:33:47.840
<v Speaker 1>We think that the magnetic field comes from the spinning

0:33:48.000 --> 0:33:51.960
<v Speaker 1>and that it powers this incredible electromagnetic radiation the X

0:33:52.080 --> 0:33:55.120
<v Speaker 1>rays and then gamma rays that come from this magnetic

0:33:55.120 --> 0:33:58.600
<v Speaker 1>field coupled with the spinning, and these magnetic fields are

0:33:58.600 --> 0:34:01.240
<v Speaker 1>just really incredibly tents that there can be like a

0:34:01.400 --> 0:34:05.680
<v Speaker 1>hundred million times stronger than any man made magnet, like

0:34:05.760 --> 0:34:09.440
<v Speaker 1>a trillion times more powerful than our magnetic field here

0:34:09.440 --> 0:34:11.640
<v Speaker 1>on Earth. And so you're hoping that maybe with the

0:34:11.680 --> 0:34:14.560
<v Speaker 1>telescope like this you could um study those magnetic fields.

0:34:14.560 --> 0:34:17.080
<v Speaker 1>Would you be able to see like images of the

0:34:17.120 --> 0:34:20.000
<v Speaker 1>magnetic field or get a sense of what they're doing.

0:34:20.200 --> 0:34:21.880
<v Speaker 1>What we want to do with nic areas try to

0:34:21.960 --> 0:34:24.680
<v Speaker 1>understand the source of these magnetic fields and how it

0:34:24.719 --> 0:34:28.280
<v Speaker 1>affects the crust on the magnetic field. Recently, Nicer saw

0:34:28.360 --> 0:34:31.640
<v Speaker 1>a magnetar and was able to watch a star quake

0:34:31.840 --> 0:34:34.760
<v Speaker 1>in action. There are these hot spots on the surface

0:34:34.880 --> 0:34:37.600
<v Speaker 1>of the magnetar, as like the bits of crust are

0:34:37.680 --> 0:34:41.319
<v Speaker 1>rubbing against each other or breaking and falling inside down

0:34:41.360 --> 0:34:44.000
<v Speaker 1>into the like a crazy neutron star lava on the

0:34:44.040 --> 0:34:47.480
<v Speaker 1>internal parts. Each of those hot spots emits X rays.

0:34:47.480 --> 0:34:50.080
<v Speaker 1>But this thing is spinning, right, so sometimes those hot

0:34:50.080 --> 0:34:52.319
<v Speaker 1>spots go around the back of the star and so

0:34:52.360 --> 0:34:54.279
<v Speaker 1>you can no longer see the X rays. So the

0:34:54.400 --> 0:34:57.399
<v Speaker 1>X rays are sort of periodic, and they're periodic because

0:34:57.440 --> 0:35:00.000
<v Speaker 1>the star is spinning, and so as they come into view,

0:35:00.120 --> 0:35:02.239
<v Speaker 1>you see a spike from X rays. They watched this

0:35:02.360 --> 0:35:05.239
<v Speaker 1>starquake in action. They saw this neutron star with like

0:35:05.360 --> 0:35:08.000
<v Speaker 1>three huge spikes and then two of the spikes sort

0:35:08.000 --> 0:35:10.960
<v Speaker 1>of emerged together into one bigger spike. So you can

0:35:11.000 --> 0:35:12.840
<v Speaker 1>get a sense for like what was going on on

0:35:12.880 --> 0:35:17.719
<v Speaker 1>the surface of this incredible object super far away. Wow. Well,

0:35:17.800 --> 0:35:20.880
<v Speaker 1>first of all, I just like the word starquake. Pretty good,

0:35:20.880 --> 0:35:24.000
<v Speaker 1>cool idea. And the second um, I guess we can

0:35:24.000 --> 0:35:27.160
<v Speaker 1>get images of these stars with our telescope, Like can

0:35:27.160 --> 0:35:29.799
<v Speaker 1>we actually see see these magnetic fields? Are we just

0:35:29.840 --> 0:35:33.080
<v Speaker 1>getting like one train of X ray photons and then

0:35:33.360 --> 0:35:35.600
<v Speaker 1>inferring kind of what's happening from that. Yeah, we do

0:35:35.680 --> 0:35:39.160
<v Speaker 1>not have great spatial resolution. Remember the structure this telescope

0:35:39.440 --> 0:35:42.279
<v Speaker 1>is not like a great optical telescope the way Hubble is.

0:35:42.520 --> 0:35:45.399
<v Speaker 1>It just got like fifty six different channels. And so

0:35:45.440 --> 0:35:47.400
<v Speaker 1>what we're getting is like just as you said, it's

0:35:47.400 --> 0:35:49.400
<v Speaker 1>like a train of X rays and we see the

0:35:49.520 --> 0:35:52.080
<v Speaker 1>energies go up and down. We can measure the energy

0:35:52.080 --> 0:35:54.000
<v Speaker 1>of the X rays as they come in. So at

0:35:54.000 --> 0:35:56.440
<v Speaker 1>any given time slice, you have like a spectrum in

0:35:56.480 --> 0:35:58.879
<v Speaker 1>the range that nicer can see, and you can see

0:35:58.920 --> 0:36:01.680
<v Speaker 1>peaks at various eve lengths, and then those peaks go

0:36:01.840 --> 0:36:05.239
<v Speaker 1>up and down in time as the magnetar spins. And

0:36:05.280 --> 0:36:07.480
<v Speaker 1>so really we just have like a single train of

0:36:07.640 --> 0:36:10.759
<v Speaker 1>X rays from each star. We don't have great spatial resolution, right,

0:36:10.800 --> 0:36:13.040
<v Speaker 1>I guess with fifty six tubes, it's it's like a

0:36:13.080 --> 0:36:15.799
<v Speaker 1>seven by eight pixel image kind of. It's like it's

0:36:15.840 --> 0:36:19.160
<v Speaker 1>a bit it's retro. Yeah, they usually use a game

0:36:19.200 --> 0:36:24.239
<v Speaker 1>Boy to visualize these kinds. You could, right, we'll be

0:36:24.239 --> 0:36:26.520
<v Speaker 1>cutting it in the eighties. Yeah, so there's a little

0:36:26.520 --> 0:36:29.279
<v Speaker 1>bit of imagination required. We can't see these surfaces, but

0:36:29.360 --> 0:36:31.799
<v Speaker 1>we can tell that there are hotspots there, and so

0:36:31.880 --> 0:36:33.880
<v Speaker 1>we can infer like the physics of what might be

0:36:33.960 --> 0:36:36.319
<v Speaker 1>going on in this stark break. Al Right, Well, NICE

0:36:36.560 --> 0:36:39.640
<v Speaker 1>is also standing other kinds of neutron stars and other

0:36:39.680 --> 0:36:42.360
<v Speaker 1>kinds of stars and incredible things happening out there in space,

0:36:42.400 --> 0:36:45.200
<v Speaker 1>and so let's get into them. But first let's take

0:36:45.280 --> 0:37:00.200
<v Speaker 1>another quick break. All right, we're talking about NICE or

0:37:00.239 --> 0:37:03.239
<v Speaker 1>the telescope. It's I think it's the nicest telescope out there.

0:37:03.440 --> 0:37:05.520
<v Speaker 1>Is there any reason not to call it the nicest? Well,

0:37:05.520 --> 0:37:07.920
<v Speaker 1>the folks I know that work on the nicer telescope,

0:37:08.080 --> 0:37:10.960
<v Speaker 1>there's some of the nicer people like some of the nicer,

0:37:11.040 --> 0:37:14.160
<v Speaker 1>but they're not the nicest. I mean that's for the

0:37:14.200 --> 0:37:16.719
<v Speaker 1>next project, right, will remove some of the meaner people

0:37:16.719 --> 0:37:19.640
<v Speaker 1>in the collaboration, and then will upgrade to the nicest collaboration.

0:37:19.920 --> 0:37:26.640
<v Speaker 1>You purify the nicest, will purge. Boy, you're not getting

0:37:26.640 --> 0:37:30.640
<v Speaker 1>on the nice list. No, it's a wonderful community people

0:37:30.800 --> 0:37:33.439
<v Speaker 1>who work on X rays, and they've been very nice

0:37:33.440 --> 0:37:36.279
<v Speaker 1>to me. Well, we talked about how this telescope is

0:37:36.320 --> 0:37:39.719
<v Speaker 1>gonna study neutron stars and magnetars, but it's also going

0:37:39.760 --> 0:37:43.160
<v Speaker 1>to study pulsars, which are pretty amazing. Yeah. Pulsars are

0:37:43.200 --> 0:37:46.880
<v Speaker 1>another variety of neutron stars. They're ones with this magnetic

0:37:46.960 --> 0:37:50.719
<v Speaker 1>field accelerates charged particles and basically creates a beam that

0:37:50.800 --> 0:37:53.520
<v Speaker 1>goes up the top and the bottom of this star.

0:37:53.920 --> 0:37:57.280
<v Speaker 1>So imagine like a huge just like flashlight being shown

0:37:57.280 --> 0:37:59.120
<v Speaker 1>out from the top of the star and the bottom

0:37:59.160 --> 0:38:02.239
<v Speaker 1>of the star into the universe. It comes because this

0:38:02.239 --> 0:38:04.880
<v Speaker 1>thing is spinning and it's got this magnetic field, and

0:38:05.080 --> 0:38:07.760
<v Speaker 1>particles that are released from the surface get like swept

0:38:07.880 --> 0:38:10.560
<v Speaker 1>up in this magnetic field and shot out, sort of

0:38:10.600 --> 0:38:13.279
<v Speaker 1>like the inverse of the Northern lights. You know, how

0:38:13.320 --> 0:38:16.040
<v Speaker 1>particles from the Sun come to the Earth and get

0:38:16.080 --> 0:38:18.319
<v Speaker 1>funneled up to the north and the south poles by

0:38:18.360 --> 0:38:22.040
<v Speaker 1>our magnetic field. We were emitting radiation from the service,

0:38:22.040 --> 0:38:23.840
<v Speaker 1>it would also get funneled up to the north and

0:38:23.920 --> 0:38:27.279
<v Speaker 1>south poles and shot out in terms of two beams. Yeah,

0:38:27.280 --> 0:38:29.719
<v Speaker 1>it sort of looks like like a lighthouse, right like

0:38:29.840 --> 0:38:32.919
<v Speaker 1>when you think of a traditional lighthouse that um, it's

0:38:32.920 --> 0:38:34.840
<v Speaker 1>like a you know, something at the top of a

0:38:34.880 --> 0:38:38.760
<v Speaker 1>tower that shines basically two spots lights, uh, and opposite directions.

0:38:38.800 --> 0:38:41.520
<v Speaker 1>That's kind of what a pulsar is. And if those

0:38:41.520 --> 0:38:46.400
<v Speaker 1>spotlights don't actually align with the spinning of the star itself, right,

0:38:46.480 --> 0:38:49.880
<v Speaker 1>they're slightly out of alignment, then where the spotlight points

0:38:49.960 --> 0:38:52.960
<v Speaker 1>changes as the star spins. Right, if you're shone a

0:38:53.040 --> 0:38:56.480
<v Speaker 1>flashlight straight up, I mean you spun, you wouldn't change

0:38:56.480 --> 0:38:58.719
<v Speaker 1>what you're shining your flashlight at. But if your fly

0:38:59.000 --> 0:39:01.560
<v Speaker 1>flashlight is pointed a little bit down or sideways than

0:39:01.640 --> 0:39:04.160
<v Speaker 1>as you spin, you're gonna be hitting a different spot

0:39:04.200 --> 0:39:07.719
<v Speaker 1>in the sky. That's why a pulsar pulses, because it's

0:39:07.760 --> 0:39:11.680
<v Speaker 1>sweeping across the universe, and only when it's beam hits

0:39:11.719 --> 0:39:13.719
<v Speaker 1>the Earth do we see it. So when we look

0:39:13.800 --> 0:39:16.520
<v Speaker 1>up at the sky, we see these pulsars blinking very

0:39:16.600 --> 0:39:19.480
<v Speaker 1>regularly as they whip around, and that beam passes the

0:39:19.480 --> 0:39:22.319
<v Speaker 1>Earth right, kind of like a lighthouse, right, Like, if

0:39:22.360 --> 0:39:24.400
<v Speaker 1>you're far away from a lighthouse, it looks like it's blinking,

0:39:24.600 --> 0:39:26.200
<v Speaker 1>but once you get up close you can see that's

0:39:26.200 --> 0:39:30.040
<v Speaker 1>actually like a flashlight that's spinning around. Yeah, and these

0:39:30.080 --> 0:39:33.000
<v Speaker 1>are some of the most powerful accelerators in the universe.

0:39:33.160 --> 0:39:35.279
<v Speaker 1>Power the particles that come from these things are just

0:39:35.440 --> 0:39:38.960
<v Speaker 1>really crazy high energies. It's amazing. So what do we

0:39:39.000 --> 0:39:40.440
<v Speaker 1>know about how they work? We don't know a lot

0:39:40.480 --> 0:39:42.520
<v Speaker 1>about them because we don't know all about neutron stars,

0:39:42.560 --> 0:39:45.480
<v Speaker 1>and these are like weird intense neutron stars that we

0:39:45.560 --> 0:39:48.600
<v Speaker 1>understand even less. But we can try to use nicer

0:39:48.719 --> 0:39:52.200
<v Speaker 1>to study them. Because sometimes these beam of particles doesn't

0:39:52.200 --> 0:39:54.200
<v Speaker 1>make it all the way to Earth. Sometimes it gets

0:39:54.280 --> 0:39:56.600
<v Speaker 1>bent by like a wiggle in the magnetic field and

0:39:56.640 --> 0:40:00.480
<v Speaker 1>comes back to the star itself and can create hots pots.

0:40:00.480 --> 0:40:02.520
<v Speaker 1>So it like sort of shoots the beam and it

0:40:02.560 --> 0:40:06.040
<v Speaker 1>gets bent back around and like zaps itself. Wait, what

0:40:06.040 --> 0:40:07.800
<v Speaker 1>what do you mean, Like it bends the light or

0:40:07.840 --> 0:40:10.560
<v Speaker 1>it bends like a stream of particles. It bends like

0:40:10.640 --> 0:40:13.080
<v Speaker 1>the stream of particles, I mean pulsars emit in lots

0:40:13.120 --> 0:40:16.399
<v Speaker 1>of different frequencies, can also shoot electrons and all sorts

0:40:16.400 --> 0:40:18.640
<v Speaker 1>of other particles and lots of things are swept up

0:40:18.640 --> 0:40:22.600
<v Speaker 1>in these magnetic fields. But ultimately it creates like when

0:40:22.600 --> 0:40:25.359
<v Speaker 1>it looks you're saying, like the beam of particles shoots up,

0:40:25.680 --> 0:40:28.560
<v Speaker 1>comes around, hits the star again and then admits a

0:40:28.560 --> 0:40:30.600
<v Speaker 1>bunch of X rays. Yeah, that's what we can see.

0:40:30.640 --> 0:40:33.120
<v Speaker 1>We see those X rays from hot spots on the

0:40:33.160 --> 0:40:36.280
<v Speaker 1>surface of these pulsars that are created by this beam

0:40:36.400 --> 0:40:39.719
<v Speaker 1>like bending back around and hitting the surface, creating those

0:40:39.760 --> 0:40:42.520
<v Speaker 1>hot spots, and so we can try to map those

0:40:42.560 --> 0:40:44.759
<v Speaker 1>hot spots and try to understand like, what's going on

0:40:44.760 --> 0:40:47.360
<v Speaker 1>on this crazy pulsar. Right, Well, I guess what's interesting

0:40:47.400 --> 0:40:48.759
<v Speaker 1>is that, I mean that this is what you think

0:40:48.840 --> 0:40:51.040
<v Speaker 1>is going on? Right, Like, we never we don't actually

0:40:51.080 --> 0:40:53.320
<v Speaker 1>have a picture of one of these pulsars up closed

0:40:53.400 --> 0:40:56.200
<v Speaker 1>to see these this bending and stuff. There's all just

0:40:56.280 --> 0:40:58.560
<v Speaker 1>kind of a little bit from our models of what

0:40:58.600 --> 0:41:00.760
<v Speaker 1>we think is going on. It's a lot of inferring

0:41:00.800 --> 0:41:02.920
<v Speaker 1>from models. Yeah, we have a computer model for what

0:41:02.960 --> 0:41:05.760
<v Speaker 1>we think is going on, and that predicts a certain

0:41:05.760 --> 0:41:07.440
<v Speaker 1>distribution of X rays. And then we go up there

0:41:07.480 --> 0:41:09.879
<v Speaker 1>and we say, what this thing is emitting something very

0:41:09.920 --> 0:41:12.520
<v Speaker 1>different from any of our models. Can we come up

0:41:12.560 --> 0:41:14.960
<v Speaker 1>with a model that explains it, and then can we

0:41:14.960 --> 0:41:17.400
<v Speaker 1>try to apply that model to other neutron stars and

0:41:17.440 --> 0:41:19.600
<v Speaker 1>how well does it work? So you know, we're really

0:41:19.600 --> 0:41:22.080
<v Speaker 1>at the very beginning of an era of neutron star

0:41:22.160 --> 0:41:25.200
<v Speaker 1>astronomy trying to understand what's going on inside these things.

0:41:25.239 --> 0:41:28.200
<v Speaker 1>Like the fact that these pulsars sometimes shoot up particles

0:41:28.200 --> 0:41:30.239
<v Speaker 1>that make it to Earth, and sometimes they bend back

0:41:30.280 --> 0:41:33.160
<v Speaker 1>around to hit the pulsar itself. Means that the magnetic

0:41:33.200 --> 0:41:35.920
<v Speaker 1>field is probably much more complicated than just like having

0:41:35.920 --> 0:41:39.479
<v Speaker 1>two poles. It's like knotted entangled in some weird way,

0:41:39.880 --> 0:41:41.759
<v Speaker 1>sort of like the way that the surface of our

0:41:41.840 --> 0:41:45.600
<v Speaker 1>Sun emits these coronal mass ejections, which then sometimes bend

0:41:45.680 --> 0:41:47.840
<v Speaker 1>back around and hit the Sun. You get these loops

0:41:47.840 --> 0:41:50.480
<v Speaker 1>of plasma right right, but those we can see kind

0:41:50.520 --> 0:41:53.400
<v Speaker 1>of what the naked eye or telescopes, but for the

0:41:53.440 --> 0:41:55.879
<v Speaker 1>neutron stars, were just kind of imagining it for now

0:41:56.000 --> 0:42:00.520
<v Speaker 1>until we get the nicest telescope and always send a

0:42:00.520 --> 0:42:03.520
<v Speaker 1>fleet of cartoonists over there to draw what's going on

0:42:03.520 --> 0:42:05.600
<v Speaker 1>on the surface of these stars. That's a lot cheaper

0:42:05.600 --> 0:42:10.200
<v Speaker 1>than a couple of billion dollars, but nicer would actually

0:42:10.200 --> 0:42:13.760
<v Speaker 1>help you on a mission into deep space because nicer

0:42:13.800 --> 0:42:17.040
<v Speaker 1>can see X rays from these pulsars. Remember once we

0:42:17.080 --> 0:42:20.600
<v Speaker 1>talked about how to navigate deep space, and as you

0:42:20.680 --> 0:42:24.120
<v Speaker 1>move away from like NASA's Deep Space Network, you have

0:42:24.160 --> 0:42:26.239
<v Speaker 1>to figure out another way to figure out like which

0:42:26.280 --> 0:42:29.239
<v Speaker 1>star you're near, where you are in the galaxy and

0:42:29.239 --> 0:42:31.880
<v Speaker 1>because pulsars are so regular and each one has its

0:42:31.880 --> 0:42:35.640
<v Speaker 1>own like fingerprint. Then by measuring the pulses from pulsars,

0:42:36.000 --> 0:42:38.239
<v Speaker 1>you can use X rays as a like way to

0:42:38.280 --> 0:42:41.719
<v Speaker 1>infer where you are in the galaxy. And Nicer can

0:42:41.760 --> 0:42:44.759
<v Speaker 1>actually do that. They have a system on it called Sextant,

0:42:44.920 --> 0:42:47.399
<v Speaker 1>which is another crazy acronym, which can do this sort

0:42:47.440 --> 0:42:50.359
<v Speaker 1>of X ray navigation. They actually tried it. They can

0:42:50.760 --> 0:42:53.680
<v Speaker 1>use pulsars to figure out where we are in the galaxy.

0:42:54.280 --> 0:42:56.480
<v Speaker 1>It's like you're using the blinking lights of the universe

0:42:56.520 --> 0:43:01.080
<v Speaker 1>to guide you through space. Yeah, exactly, astrophysical lighthouses for real.

0:43:01.120 --> 0:43:03.399
<v Speaker 1>It's not just a metaphor. I'll make sure to bring

0:43:03.520 --> 0:43:07.000
<v Speaker 1>one on my next space board. But it's interesting you're

0:43:07.000 --> 0:43:09.920
<v Speaker 1>saying almost like its own field, right, or like you know,

0:43:10.400 --> 0:43:13.160
<v Speaker 1>you're an astronomer, You're you're studying neutron stars. I'm not

0:43:13.200 --> 0:43:15.759
<v Speaker 1>saying they're ready to have their own department yet, but

0:43:15.880 --> 0:43:19.120
<v Speaker 1>absolutely there's a whole field of neutron star astronomy. People

0:43:19.120 --> 0:43:22.120
<v Speaker 1>who just study neutron stars all the way from people

0:43:22.200 --> 0:43:24.839
<v Speaker 1>writing computer codes to model what's going on inside them,

0:43:25.000 --> 0:43:27.640
<v Speaker 1>to people designing telescopes to look at them, to people

0:43:27.680 --> 0:43:31.439
<v Speaker 1>analyzing the data, people writing machine learning codes to try

0:43:31.480 --> 0:43:34.000
<v Speaker 1>to understand what we can learn about the inside of

0:43:34.040 --> 0:43:36.920
<v Speaker 1>neutron stars based on the patterns of X rays. It's

0:43:36.920 --> 0:43:39.399
<v Speaker 1>a huge field, and I guess astromine stars. So would

0:43:39.400 --> 0:43:45.440
<v Speaker 1>they technically be called neutron astronomers or astronomers, new astronomers

0:43:46.520 --> 0:43:51.719
<v Speaker 1>or not nasty stron nastronomers? Nice astronomers? Maybe nice? There

0:43:51.760 --> 0:43:56.719
<v Speaker 1>you go, nice, they're the nicest. Well. But also this

0:43:56.840 --> 0:44:00.000
<v Speaker 1>telescope doesn't just study neutron stars. You could also study

0:44:00.360 --> 0:44:02.160
<v Speaker 1>the kind of the opposite of a star, which is

0:44:02.200 --> 0:44:05.560
<v Speaker 1>a black hole. Remember that. Functionally it's an X ray telescope.

0:44:05.719 --> 0:44:07.759
<v Speaker 1>We built it to see X rays that come from

0:44:07.760 --> 0:44:10.400
<v Speaker 1>neutron stars in this particular region, but it's not limited

0:44:10.440 --> 0:44:13.560
<v Speaker 1>to just studying neutron stars. It can also see anything

0:44:13.600 --> 0:44:16.320
<v Speaker 1>else in the universe that generates X rays in this

0:44:16.480 --> 0:44:19.800
<v Speaker 1>frequency range. And one of those things are black holes.

0:44:20.160 --> 0:44:22.680
<v Speaker 1>Remember that black holes. While they're black, and they're these

0:44:22.719 --> 0:44:27.040
<v Speaker 1>incredible pinpoints of space where light cannot escape. The region

0:44:27.120 --> 0:44:30.279
<v Speaker 1>around the black hole is a very intense environment with

0:44:30.320 --> 0:44:33.680
<v Speaker 1>a huge amount of gravity and very high temperatures. And

0:44:33.719 --> 0:44:37.080
<v Speaker 1>before things fall into the event horizon, they get super

0:44:37.160 --> 0:44:40.360
<v Speaker 1>duper hot and can emit crazy amounts of light, including

0:44:40.800 --> 0:44:42.560
<v Speaker 1>X rays. Yeah, that's kind of the only thing we

0:44:42.600 --> 0:44:44.720
<v Speaker 1>can see about black holes, right, is this stuff falling

0:44:44.760 --> 0:44:47.440
<v Speaker 1>into it. Yeah, and that stuff, these pockets of gas

0:44:47.440 --> 0:44:49.799
<v Speaker 1>and dust that are swirling around before they fall in.

0:44:50.080 --> 0:44:53.120
<v Speaker 1>They can get crazy hot. We're talking about like a

0:44:53.160 --> 0:44:57.440
<v Speaker 1>billion celsius. It's like one point eight billion degrees fahrenheit.

0:44:57.800 --> 0:45:00.960
<v Speaker 1>It's just really incredible the velocity of these articles. So

0:45:01.000 --> 0:45:03.319
<v Speaker 1>when they're at these temperatures, they tend to emit in

0:45:03.360 --> 0:45:06.680
<v Speaker 1>the very high frequency range, meaning X rays. And we're

0:45:06.800 --> 0:45:09.319
<v Speaker 1>very curious about the nature of these particles, what's going

0:45:09.360 --> 0:45:12.600
<v Speaker 1>on just before they fall into the black holes, because remember,

0:45:12.680 --> 0:45:15.440
<v Speaker 1>not all the particles in the accretion disk actually make

0:45:15.520 --> 0:45:18.359
<v Speaker 1>it into the black holes. Black holes sometimes have very

0:45:18.360 --> 0:45:22.040
<v Speaker 1>powerful magnetic fields, just like magnetars. Sometimes these particles don't

0:45:22.120 --> 0:45:24.560
<v Speaker 1>end up in the black hole. They get swept up

0:45:24.560 --> 0:45:26.880
<v Speaker 1>by the magnetic field and shot out the top or

0:45:26.960 --> 0:45:30.879
<v Speaker 1>the bottom, creating these huge astrophysical jets, things that are

0:45:31.040 --> 0:45:34.799
<v Speaker 1>much much bigger than the black hole itself. And you

0:45:34.840 --> 0:45:37.879
<v Speaker 1>need something like nice or to study the X rays

0:45:37.920 --> 0:45:40.359
<v Speaker 1>because there could be things happening around a black hole

0:45:40.400 --> 0:45:43.080
<v Speaker 1>that you can't see with the sort of visible light

0:45:43.239 --> 0:45:45.200
<v Speaker 1>right with the naked eye. Yeah, because these things are

0:45:45.239 --> 0:45:47.279
<v Speaker 1>so hot they don't really emit in the visible light.

0:45:47.480 --> 0:45:49.600
<v Speaker 1>The X ray is the right spectrum to see them

0:45:49.600 --> 0:45:52.719
<v Speaker 1>in because of their incredible temperature. And so this lets

0:45:52.800 --> 0:45:55.279
<v Speaker 1>us do things like look right at the edge of

0:45:55.320 --> 0:45:58.400
<v Speaker 1>a black hole's event horizon and image the particles that

0:45:58.440 --> 0:46:00.759
<v Speaker 1>are just about to fall in or were just about

0:46:00.800 --> 0:46:03.399
<v Speaker 1>to get shot out the top or the bottom into

0:46:03.480 --> 0:46:05.960
<v Speaker 1>those jets. So they've done this recently. They've looked at

0:46:06.000 --> 0:46:09.960
<v Speaker 1>like the black hole corona, this environment just past the

0:46:10.120 --> 0:46:12.600
<v Speaker 1>edge of the event horizon where the particles are like

0:46:12.640 --> 0:46:14.960
<v Speaker 1>about to fall in or about to get shot out

0:46:15.000 --> 0:46:17.480
<v Speaker 1>into the jets. And they've done this before for like

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<v Speaker 1>super massive black holes at the hearts of galaxies, but

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<v Speaker 1>they hadn't never done one for a stellar mass black hole,

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<v Speaker 1>like a black hole that's just the collapse of a

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<v Speaker 1>normal star. Interesting, but I guess don't things near the

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<v Speaker 1>surface of a black hole kind of get stretched out right, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>don't things kind of get red shifted? And wouldn't that

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<v Speaker 1>make it hard to see what an X ray telescope

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<v Speaker 1>good point in the vicinity of a black hole, there

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<v Speaker 1>is gravitational red shifting, so things do get moved down

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<v Speaker 1>to lower and lower frequencies. So that means that if

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<v Speaker 1>these things are still X rays after they got red shifted,

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<v Speaker 1>they must have been ridiculously high frequency. But that's also

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<v Speaker 1>why we have a big spectrum of observing devices like

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<v Speaker 1>the James Webb telescope that just went up. It's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be looking in the infrared to look specifically, are

0:47:00.880 --> 0:47:04.320
<v Speaker 1>things that have been massively red shifted because they're old,

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<v Speaker 1>or because they're moving really really fast, or because they

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<v Speaker 1>went through some gravitational redshift, like the vicinity of a

0:47:10.360 --> 0:47:12.640
<v Speaker 1>black hole. Right, it's almost like you need like several

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<v Speaker 1>different glasses to study what's happening in these extreme environments, right,

0:47:17.080 --> 0:47:20.120
<v Speaker 1>Like you need a regular magnifying glass, you need an

0:47:20.239 --> 0:47:23.160
<v Speaker 1>X ray glass, you need a infrared pair of glasses. Yeah,

0:47:23.200 --> 0:47:25.800
<v Speaker 1>just the same way we use various senses to understand

0:47:25.800 --> 0:47:27.920
<v Speaker 1>the nature of the world around you. If you only

0:47:28.000 --> 0:47:30.359
<v Speaker 1>had vision, or if you only had hearing, you might

0:47:30.400 --> 0:47:32.840
<v Speaker 1>have a very different sense of the world that you

0:47:32.960 --> 0:47:35.880
<v Speaker 1>are embedded in. And so we want as many different

0:47:35.880 --> 0:47:38.600
<v Speaker 1>senses as possible to understand the universe and all of

0:47:38.640 --> 0:47:41.000
<v Speaker 1>its different colors and sounds. Right. It's sort of like

0:47:41.040 --> 0:47:43.279
<v Speaker 1>three D glasses, right, Like you want one eyeball to

0:47:43.320 --> 0:47:45.799
<v Speaker 1>see one thing, you want the other eyeball to see

0:47:45.840 --> 0:47:48.080
<v Speaker 1>something else, and then that gives you a more complete

0:47:48.080 --> 0:47:50.600
<v Speaker 1>picture of what's going on. Because we're trapped here on Earth,

0:47:50.680 --> 0:47:53.960
<v Speaker 1>we can't go and visit those stars very effectively, and

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<v Speaker 1>so we want to take advantage of as much information

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<v Speaker 1>as we can that makes its way here to Earth.

0:47:58.960 --> 0:48:01.680
<v Speaker 1>And it would be crazy to ignore a whole channel

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<v Speaker 1>of information in the X ray that's telling us so

0:48:04.440 --> 0:48:07.680
<v Speaker 1>many things about a hidden part of the universe. Yeah.

0:48:07.760 --> 0:48:10.480
<v Speaker 1>And I guess it's thanks to telescopes like these that

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<v Speaker 1>we can that we even know there's stuff going on

0:48:13.040 --> 0:48:16.160
<v Speaker 1>in those other frequencies. Yeah. And we have a whole

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<v Speaker 1>generation of new devices going up along a broad set

0:48:19.239 --> 0:48:21.400
<v Speaker 1>of these wavelengths, and each one is going to tell

0:48:21.480 --> 0:48:23.759
<v Speaker 1>us a different story about what's going on out there,

0:48:24.080 --> 0:48:26.319
<v Speaker 1>and then we try to piece that together into a

0:48:26.360 --> 0:48:28.480
<v Speaker 1>whole model of the universe. And that's in the end,

0:48:28.520 --> 0:48:31.200
<v Speaker 1>what physics is, right. We take what we see out

0:48:31.200 --> 0:48:33.040
<v Speaker 1>there in the universe and try to stitch it together

0:48:33.080 --> 0:48:37.400
<v Speaker 1>into one grand story that explains everything that describes the

0:48:37.400 --> 0:48:40.640
<v Speaker 1>heart of neutron stars and the flapping of butterfly wings

0:48:40.719 --> 0:48:44.919
<v Speaker 1>and the collisions of elephants. He just locked me there.

0:48:46.560 --> 0:48:50.359
<v Speaker 1>You had me at the collision of stars with the butterflies. Yeah,

0:48:50.400 --> 0:48:52.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, the vortices created by butterfly wings are not

0:48:53.000 --> 0:48:55.720
<v Speaker 1>something we understand very well. The whole group of people studying,

0:48:55.760 --> 0:48:59.960
<v Speaker 1>like how do insects fly? It's really pretty complicated fluid dynamics.

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<v Speaker 1>I see, and you need X rays for that. You

0:49:02.200 --> 0:49:03.640
<v Speaker 1>don't need X rays for that. But this is an

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<v Speaker 1>example of the kind of picture we're trying to build

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<v Speaker 1>up about the universe. Physics is not just about neutron stars.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about understanding how the universe works and stitching together

0:49:12.280 --> 0:49:16.280
<v Speaker 1>everything we see into one holistic picture of the fundamental

0:49:16.360 --> 0:49:19.359
<v Speaker 1>nature of the universe. Oh, I see, god it you're

0:49:19.360 --> 0:49:21.800
<v Speaker 1>trying to co opt the other place. It's all physics,

0:49:21.840 --> 0:49:25.160
<v Speaker 1>and that's where I'm going. You want all the funding

0:49:26.280 --> 0:49:28.319
<v Speaker 1>until you get sucked up by the math department and

0:49:28.320 --> 0:49:30.759
<v Speaker 1>then you're in trouble. Then't even relevant to reality, man,

0:49:30.840 --> 0:49:35.080
<v Speaker 1>They exist in the realms of what might be. They're

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<v Speaker 1>not so nice, they're not a size as astronomers. I

0:49:37.960 --> 0:49:39.840
<v Speaker 1>don't know if math has good acronyms or not. I

0:49:39.840 --> 0:49:43.040
<v Speaker 1>haven't dug into that. I think, well, they only deal

0:49:43.120 --> 0:49:45.840
<v Speaker 1>with the letters, so I guess any equation can be

0:49:45.880 --> 0:49:48.080
<v Speaker 1>an acronym. Yeah, maybe their acronyms are like all Greek

0:49:48.080 --> 0:49:52.280
<v Speaker 1>and Hebrew letters mathcronyms. Yeah, they don't even care about words.

0:49:53.760 --> 0:49:55.960
<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, again, it's all pretty cool to think

0:49:56.000 --> 0:49:58.759
<v Speaker 1>about all the things that humans are doing to look

0:49:58.800 --> 0:50:01.120
<v Speaker 1>at the universe around this. You know, it's sort of

0:50:01.160 --> 0:50:05.000
<v Speaker 1>screaming at us, shining us, raining upon us with information

0:50:05.000 --> 0:50:07.440
<v Speaker 1>about what's going on and how it works at the

0:50:07.640 --> 0:50:10.799
<v Speaker 1>molecular at the quantum level. And all we need are

0:50:10.960 --> 0:50:14.000
<v Speaker 1>like the right pair of glasses, the right tools to

0:50:14.239 --> 0:50:16.839
<v Speaker 1>kind of see and get this information. And we need

0:50:16.840 --> 0:50:19.960
<v Speaker 1>folks who are so passionate, it's so interested, so curious

0:50:20.000 --> 0:50:22.600
<v Speaker 1>about one question about the universe that they spend their

0:50:22.640 --> 0:50:26.319
<v Speaker 1>career designing things like crazy X ray telescopes that can

0:50:26.360 --> 0:50:30.000
<v Speaker 1>help us understand the nature of the heart of neutron stars.

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<v Speaker 1>And they also need help with their acronyms. So if

0:50:32.160 --> 0:50:35.239
<v Speaker 1>you're good at that, also joined the team. Just make

0:50:35.280 --> 0:50:39.279
<v Speaker 1>sure you're nice about it. All right, Well, we hope

0:50:39.320 --> 0:50:41.879
<v Speaker 1>you enjoyed that. Thanks for joining us, see you next time.

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