1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:02,559 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. 2 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 2: Where was HR when all of this was happening. 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 3: You pointed out what company? 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 2: Right? 5 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 3: So this is basically HR doing P Diddy's bidding. 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 4: HR equals hell racket. Nobody did anything. It is the 7 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 4: playbook powerful people over less fortunate people. 8 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 5: The jury is watching you butt naked or maybe he 9 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 5: had a burka on, and they're all looking over at him. 10 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 5: What can he do? What did he do? 11 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 6: I'll tell you what he did. He actually looked like 12 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 6: he was a little bit proud. 13 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: It was odd. 14 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 6: It seemed like he was proud of what the jurors saw. 15 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 7: And I literally sat there and said that man has 16 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 7: not learned a thing. 17 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 5: Hotel nights would last up to thirty hours. 18 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 7: The freakings weren't just like bamm bam, thank you, ma'am. 19 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 6: Positions held for three four hours. 20 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 2: The ouch I'd want to go see the chiropractor, a. 21 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 6: Cracked out Loki and the Marvel. 22 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 2: Universe told that position, aren't your back? What breathe in? 23 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 1: What? 24 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 2: Straight out? 25 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 5: To Tisa Tails joining us at the Monahan Federal Courthouse 26 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 5: where Shawn Combs is being tried on a multi count 27 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 5: federal indictment. Tisa the Star off Tasa tales on YouTube 28 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 5: TISA What is the Latest Nancy? 29 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 6: Today was an incredible day for the prosecution. 30 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 7: They are this close to resting their case, but there 31 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 7: were a couple of bombshells put out. First of all, 32 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 7: Briance still did his best to create Fulton Counting Magic. 33 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 6: Basically trying to get us into the whole lifestyle. 34 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 7: Apparently, if you're working on an album, Apparently, if you're 35 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 7: working toward. 36 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 6: A goal, it doesn't matter if you break the law. 37 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 6: That's right. The defense put. 38 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 7: Out, it's I guess this whole thing, that this is 39 00:01:58,280 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 7: a lifestyle. 40 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 6: Unfortunately, they seem to forget that it was illegal. 41 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 7: And one of the most shocking moments, they asked Brendan 42 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 7: Paul whether he thought his boss was a criminal. They 43 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 7: asked whether they thought his boss was installed in crime. 44 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 6: They literally asked them, do you think you're a criminal? 45 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 7: However, what was their conclusion, according to Brendan Tull, absolutely not. 46 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 6: Mister Paul, Are you forgetting how you came to be 47 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 6: in this place? Because I feel like we need to 48 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 6: roll it back like Freaky Friday. How did you end 49 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 6: up here? 50 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 7: You are arrested with drugs at thought OPA Loca Airport 51 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 7: while you were about to get on a plane, a 52 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 7: private plane with your boss in the course of business 53 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 7: and transport drugs that your boss left. 54 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 6: The night before in his apartment. 55 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 7: Now, I might not be the greatest legal mind ever, 56 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 7: but I'm pretty sure in the United States. 57 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 6: Of America, you have just admitted to plenty of crimes. 58 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 6: Imagine a man that is on the stand because you 59 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 6: had to take community for. 60 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 7: Doing illegal stuff, sitting there talking about what a great 61 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 7: man he was, and he only maybe bought five hundred 62 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 7: and drugs here a thousand and hair, sir, what about 63 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 7: the five thousand and weed? 64 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 6: Again? 65 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 7: A lot of people were scratching their heads, and a 66 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 7: lot of people were looking at Brian still saying you 67 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 7: did all this because you were working on an album, which, 68 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 7: by the way, flopped. 69 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 6: You guys, Brian Steele. 70 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 7: Was telling bedtime stories and fairy tales. He needs to 71 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 7: write for Disney and Pixar because the story he was 72 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 7: trying to paint was. 73 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 6: Not grounded in reality. The defense promise at the beginning 74 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 6: of this trial that they might go to the eighteenth 75 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 6: They had the whole world. They were gonna show what's 76 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 6: a lifestyle? 77 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 7: Instead, they showed that Brian still what's moreland Mark Agnifilio, 78 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 7: Tenny Garrett goes, and of course Xavier Donaldson need to 79 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:59,119 Speaker 7: work for Disney Pixar because they were writing bedtime stories 80 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 7: mixed with a. 81 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 6: Little fairy tale. 82 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 7: You guys, But it looks like the defense and a 83 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 7: shocking turn of events, has admitted defeat or at the 84 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 7: very least and ungrounded confidence. They went from saying that 85 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 7: their whole trial is going to be five days for 86 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 7: them to put on their defense case, they have now 87 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 7: shortened it down to one maybe two days now. Listen, 88 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 7: a lot of people gassed in the courtroom one to 89 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,799 Speaker 7: two days. Sir, you know you've lost the crowd because 90 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 7: the first thing I thought, is Kanye going to testify? 91 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 6: You know you've lost the crowd. 92 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 7: Where even Kanye West has decided it's not a good 93 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 7: idea for him to get on the stand. There is 94 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 7: not enough time for anybody to testify. Again, what does 95 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 7: this mean? It means that some people think that did 96 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 7: he might get off because he's over confident, But again, 97 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 7: pride goes before the fall. 98 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 6: Where is this offense? 99 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 7: Where are all the celebrities that were going to testify 100 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 7: on this behalf. Where all the employees that are going 101 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 7: to testify it was just a lifestyle and they knew nothing. 102 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 6: It's very very some people see this confidence. 103 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 7: I see it as a red flag that the prosecution 104 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 7: has proven their case without a shred of doubt. 105 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 6: Again, where are all these employees. 106 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 7: That can testify it wasn't a criminal organization where all these. 107 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 6: Employees were feuding. 108 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 7: What the prosecution witnesses said, again, it's a bold move. 109 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 6: We'll see what it means. 110 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 1: But Taysa, How did Sean comes respond? 111 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 7: Listen today, Diddy? This is Diddy's worst week ever. Diddy 112 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 7: was begging for during number seven to be kicked off. 113 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 7: They even started some nonsense asking about to acquire into 114 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 7: the medical records about the jura that could not be 115 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 7: there one Wednesday. Now, I'm not gonna lie and Nancy 116 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 7: party me said, I hope that during gets better, but 117 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 7: can they maybe be sick on Friday too, so we 118 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 7: could get a five day week. As you see, that 119 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 7: did not happen. However, it did create another opportunity. We 120 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 7: were also happy to see. 121 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 6: Didty literally got all of. 122 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 7: His motions rejected and that secret phone that Didd he 123 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 7: tried to hide from the prosecutors that they are going 124 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 7: to look at for a possible obstruction of justice charge. 125 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 6: Was admitted in evidence. Okay, so a lot of crushing 126 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 6: defeats to Diddy. 127 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 7: You have the jurors, you have, the jury stays diverse. 128 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 7: But Diddy just got bad news upon bad news. But 129 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 7: as it stands, and we know what the Diddy trial, 130 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 7: things changed daily. The jurors that we have are going 131 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 7: to be the one to go to deliberation, which, by 132 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 7: the way, all right, which by the way, Diddy's team 133 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 7: has informed us that they're not even going to put 134 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 7: on a five day defense. They're going to be done 135 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 7: in one to two business days. 136 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: You guys. 137 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 6: Again, some people are saying this is a sign that 138 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 6: did he thinks, say proven their case. 139 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 7: I see it as a sign of desperation, or maybe 140 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 7: Diddy says it's over and I don't want to have 141 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 7: to pay you guys another moment. I don't want to 142 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 7: pay you guys for another moment, because again, Diddy literally 143 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 7: paid millions of dollars in order for people to try 144 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 7: to make rotten zucchini into something. We're not talking limbs 145 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 7: and a lemonade. We're talking rotten zucchini and what do 146 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 7: you do with that? Well, according to most cooks, just 147 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 7: like Didny's career, his life, and his chance of freedom, 148 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 7: it looks like it just got tossed in the trash. 149 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 5: Joining us now outside the Monahan Courthouse in downtown Manhattan, 150 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 5: Lauren Conlin, star. 151 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 2: Off Pop Crime TV on YouTube. 152 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 5: Lauren, thank you for being with us, Lauren, I understand 153 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 5: that there was so much baby oil at a free cough. 154 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 5: We have already heard about two slip and falls. Listen, Lauren. 155 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 8: Jonathan Perez is Shaan Combs's fourth assistant to take the 156 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 8: stand with Immunity. Perez testifies that he worked directly under 157 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 8: Christina Koram, who instructed him on setting up King Knights, 158 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 8: which korm described as Combs's private time with a woman. 159 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 8: Perez says the task was usually left to the night's 160 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 8: staff and he only set up for about five of 161 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 8: these nights, even had to purchase lingerie for Jane for 162 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 8: the King Knights. Perez says he cleaned up the messy 163 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,679 Speaker 8: rooms afterward and they were often covered in oil. Replying 164 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 8: to Korum about how a cleanup was going, Perez texted, 165 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 8: slipped and fell twice already Perez says Combs also sent 166 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 8: him to pick up drugs. 167 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 5: Okay, objection, ew what happened? The guys had two slip 168 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 5: and falls in all the oil. 169 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 9: Yes, Unfortunately that is what we saw in evidence when 170 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 9: we saw these text messages between Christina Korum and Jonathan Perez, 171 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 9: one of Ditty's assistants. We also saw a text message 172 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 9: from Christina Korum to Jane actually stating that the rooms 173 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 9: that she and Ditty would use there always would be 174 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 9: extra damage charges because they were all white and more 175 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 9: oil filled than normal. 176 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 10: So it's been a bit stomach turning. 177 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 5: Nancy joining us now outside the Monahan courtouse is Tisa 178 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 5: tells Tisa, I understand that Sean Combs has been First 179 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 5: of all, he tried the Bible. Okay, then I guess 180 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 5: this lawyer's told him that's not a good idea. You 181 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 5: need to stop that right now. Reading the Bible in 182 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 5: front of the jury. Now, if you had any history 183 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 5: of ever going to church or reading the Bible in 184 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 5: the past, it might not have been a bad move. 185 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 5: But using the Bible as a prop I'm surprised he 186 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 5: wasn't struck by a bolt of lightning that said. Now, 187 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 5: he's got a new book he's bringing into court, The. 188 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:34,839 Speaker 2: Magic of Believing. 189 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 5: Now, if I'm right, that's all about manifesting your truth, 190 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 5: like manifesting a not guilty. 191 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: Is this real? 192 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 6: It is actually real? He has some sort of manifestation book. 193 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 7: But again, well each week at this point, I think 194 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 7: he's going to bring in a guide to the Dark 195 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 7: Arts from Hogwarts if we let him keep going. 196 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 6: He is sliding down the walls. And the thing is, 197 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 6: he keeps trying to bring in these props to me, 198 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 6: the Bible perfect prop for him. 199 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 7: Okay, like you said, you're about to have thunder and 200 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 7: lightning in the courtroom. 201 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 6: Now he's all about manifesting. He's trying to remind. 202 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 7: Us of the brain marching he gave the nation for 203 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 7: the last ten years and bring that in. But at 204 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 7: this point it's turned into a joke, which makes me 205 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 7: believe how much is our is a legal team actually 206 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 7: monitoring social media? Because this is turned into a joke again, 207 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 7: what is he going to bring in? What is he 208 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 7: going to bring in next? How to make friends and 209 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 7: win enemies? I mean, no one really knows what's going on. 210 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 7: So again Diddy is trying his best to turn this 211 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 7: into a circus, but the judge has a firm hold 212 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 7: on the courtroom and he's letting it know this is 213 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 7: going to be above board. 214 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 6: So he's struggling. He's definitely struggling. 215 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: Crime Stores with Nancy Grace. 216 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 5: Shawn Combs in the courtroom manifesting I'm not guilty verdict. 217 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 11: Listen is Sean Didy Coombs trying to manifest a not 218 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 11: guilty verdict. The music mogul has been spotted carrying a 219 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 11: self help book, The Magic of Believing, back and forth 220 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 11: to court. Legal experts say it isn't uncommon for defendants 221 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 11: to turn to some sort of coping mechanism during lengthy 222 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 11: and stressful trials, and Comb's book of choice is used 223 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 11: by many for mental fortitude in challenging situations. 224 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 5: Doctor Bethany manifesting for those of us that aren't really 225 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 5: familiar with that, could you explain what it is? Is 226 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 5: it like, oh, wish it and it comes true? 227 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:41,719 Speaker 3: Like I dream of Genie? 228 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 9: You know? 229 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 6: You know. 230 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 3: Manifesting is this idea that if you form a thought 231 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 3: in your mind, you can materialize it in the environment. 232 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 3: So let's say you want to be an actress, You 233 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 3: meditate and you imagine yourself being in front of the camera, 234 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 3: being enjoying being, you know, getting your next oscar, and 235 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 3: that if you can sum it up enough feelings about 236 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 3: that event, then you can rearrange sort of what's going 237 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 3: on in the environment to make that event happen. I mean, 238 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 3: you know whether or not this is true? 239 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 2: Okay? 240 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 3: So P did he controls? 241 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 5: You? 242 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:27,239 Speaker 1: Actually just say. 243 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 2: Whether or not this is true? Okay? Whether did you 244 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 2: say that? Because I think you did, Whether it's not true? 245 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 2: How about going. 246 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 5: To school and getting a job to advance your goal? 247 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,199 Speaker 2: What about what are Okay? 248 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 5: So you don't tell your clients sit there and wish 249 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 5: it and it will happen. 250 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, So just like P did, he tries to 251 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 3: control his victims. I think he's trying to control God. 252 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 3: I mean it's like he's trying to go to the universe. 253 00:12:56,000 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 5: Meant, Bethany, please, unless we really need to drag God 254 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,559 Speaker 5: into this, let's please leave him her out of it. 255 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 5: Just first of all, you evaded the question do you 256 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 5: tell your clients to manifest? 257 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 3: I do not, but many of my Beverly Hills clients 258 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 3: come in with a goal they're trying to manifest. So 259 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 3: I try to turn it into real life, you know, actualization, meeting, 260 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 3: acting on their both their own behalf to reach the goal, 261 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 3: you know, Nancy. 262 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 5: Okay, now you're losing me. You're totally losing me in 263 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 5: all the words or of words. Okay, thank goodness, you 264 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 5: don't tell your clients to manifest. Okay, Sidney Sumner. What 265 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 5: does Kanye and his million dollar titanium teeth drool have 266 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 5: to do with Sean Combs? 267 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 12: Well, Nancy, Kanye West has been one of the only 268 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 12: public supporters of Diddy throughout this thing, and it's interesting 269 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:56,959 Speaker 12: because they weren't really close before this. Sean Combs and 270 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 12: Kanye West kind of had a falling out over Kanye 271 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 12: White Lives Matter t shirt line and they haven't really 272 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 12: been close since then. But now that Sean Kalms is 273 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 12: behind bars, Kanye West has apparently been reaching out to 274 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 12: his sons and offering support. And we saw that devolved 275 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 12: from pushing Sean Jalon's merchandise on his website to selling 276 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 12: swastika T shirts on his website in this tie raid 277 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 12: that kind of unfolded during Super Bowl Week. 278 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 5: Oh yes, let's take a look at the swastika T 279 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 5: shirt back to Troy Slayton, joining US veteran trial lawyer 280 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 5: out of LA. Troy Slayton, I mean, with friends like this, 281 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 5: why would they bring Kanye to court, a known Hitler sympathizer. 282 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 13: I don't think Ditty's defense team had anything to do 283 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 13: with this. I think Kanye did this on his own 284 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 13: because he's selling free Diddy merchandise. If I was Ditty's 285 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 13: defense team, I'm not calling in UH Kanye West with 286 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 13: his UH, with his swastikas and his hal Hitler merchandise. 287 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 10: Absolutely not. 288 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 13: I think Kanye did this absolutely on his own because 289 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 13: he's trying to sell merch He's trying to make money 290 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 13: off all the free publicity surrounding this trial. 291 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 5: Toroy Slaytony, it cannot help Shawn Combs, not that I 292 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 5: want him to be helped, but it can't help Shawn Combs. 293 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 5: For Kanye to show up, I don't know if ther 294 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 5: even realized what was happening. 295 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 2: But it's done now. Can I ask you. 296 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 5: Very quickly, Troy Slayton, I'm gonna circle back to the 297 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 5: chaos in the courtroom surrounding GURR number six, Okay, and 298 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 5: will that be reversible error? 299 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 2: If there's a conviction. 300 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 5: Could you explain why, whether he's black, white, purple, or green, 301 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 5: that juror had to go. 302 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 13: Well, I understand why the judge dismissed them, but I 303 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 13: also understand why it's going to be fertile ground for 304 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 13: al because there's this little thing in this country called 305 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 13: the Constitution, and the equal protection clause of the fourteenth 306 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 13: Amendment says everybody has to be treated equal. And how 307 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 13: that applies to this trial is that you can't dismiss 308 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 13: somebody because of their race. You can't. And so if 309 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 13: the jurors, I mean, if. 310 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 2: The prosecutor Slaton, yes. 311 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 10: Nancy, if the prosecutors we all. 312 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 5: No color, we all accept that a juror cannot be 313 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 5: thrown off or thrown out of the Va Dyer process 314 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 5: because of their race. Batsan Vie, Kentucky. It's an age 315 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 5: old case, right. We all know that this jar was 316 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 5: placed on the jury. He was not deselected because of 317 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 5: his race. But Troy, he stated, he doesn't live in 318 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 5: the jurisdiction. 319 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 2: He can't be on the jury. 320 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 5: You can't get away, you can't behave that constitutional right. 321 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 13: They didn't even give him a chance to explain, Nancy. 322 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 13: They kicked him out. He gave inconsistent answers. At one 323 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 13: point he made he said he lived in New Jersey. 324 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 13: The other point he said he lived in the Bronx. 325 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 13: So it's not clear exactly where he lived or if 326 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 13: he moved. 327 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 5: Okay, let's get some clarification very quickly, Sidney Sumner, what 328 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 5: exactly did he say? 329 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: Plays school Troy Slayton Nancy. 330 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 12: The judge said that the issue of race could not 331 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 12: outweigh the fact that this juror was possibly lying or 332 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 12: trying to stay on this panel. The juror was very 333 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 12: unclear and whether or not he actually resided in New 334 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 12: Jersey or if he resided in the Bronx full time, 335 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 12: and that inconsistency led the judge to believe that this 336 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 12: juror was not being truthful because he wanted to stay 337 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 12: on the panel, and the juror should not be that 338 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 12: invested in the case unless he had some kind of 339 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 12: bias toward it. So the judge said, I'm sorry, but. 340 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 5: His words exactly, Sidney, where did he say he lived? 341 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 13: Well? 342 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 12: At first on his jury questionnaire, this juror answered that 343 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 12: he lived in the Bronx with his aunt. Then in 344 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 12: casual conversation with court staff, he was talking about living 345 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 12: in New Jersey with his girlfriend and his daughter. So 346 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 12: when it came back again, he told the judge, no, no, no, 347 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 12: I spend most of my time in the Bronx. So 348 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 12: we have this constant inconsistency of well, you said this, 349 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 12: now you said that, now you said this again. So 350 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 12: I don't understand what is the truth here, And at 351 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 12: that point he just could not be trusted. 352 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 5: Joining us now outside the Monahan Federal Courthouse where Seawan 353 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 5: Combs is on trial in a multi count federal indictment 354 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 5: for sex trafficking and rico standing by Lauren Conlin, star 355 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 5: a pop crime TV on YouTube. Lauren, thank you for 356 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 5: being with us. Lauren, What do you make of what 357 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 5: just went down in the courtroom today? 358 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 9: In court, the government started with their first witness being 359 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 9: Brendan Paul. Brendan Paul was a former personal assistant for 360 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 9: Sean Colmbs and if you recall, Brendan Paul was actually 361 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 9: arrested at a Miami airport in March of twenty twenty four, 362 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 9: and the media had essentially dubbed Brendan Paul as this 363 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 9: quote unquote alleged drug mule Now, Brendan Paul only had 364 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 9: about er point zero seven grams of cocaine on him, 365 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 9: and he actually explained to us in the gallery and 366 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 9: to the jury that he was cleaning up one of 367 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 9: Shawn Colms's hotel rooms and he found it laying around. 368 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 9: He took it with him and then he just forgot 369 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 9: to take it out of his pocket. 370 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,679 Speaker 10: He later told us that he had a great lawyer, 371 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 10: and his lawyer was able to get these charges dropped. 372 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 9: But he never told anyone, never told law enforcement who 373 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 9: who the cocaine belonged to, and he never talked to 374 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 9: Seawan Colmes after this arrest, and he really hadn't seen 375 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,479 Speaker 9: him until he testified today. 376 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 10: Now Brendan Paul's background. 377 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:16,439 Speaker 9: He worked for Colmbs Enterprises as a personal assistant from 378 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 9: twenty twenty two to March of twenty twenty four after 379 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 9: his arrest, about eighteen months. And this kid was actually 380 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 9: a d one walk on basketball player for Syracuse. 381 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 10: Now. 382 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 9: He testified that he wanted to be in the music 383 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 9: industry and he was pretty excited about this opportunity to 384 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 9: work for Shawn Colmes. His duties really included tasks like 385 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 9: packing Diddy's suit cases, organizing things, cleaning up his studio 386 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 9: after he was done, and he testified that he only 387 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 9: set up these quote unquote wild King Knights a handful 388 00:20:55,680 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 9: of times. He also testified that he did get drugs 389 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 9: for Ditty between five and ten times. However, he said 390 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 9: it most likely was less than ten times, and he 391 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 9: would do this through other assistance. He would text them 392 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 9: to see what Diddy needed, or he would do it 393 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 9: through KK and very rarely would he. 394 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 10: Do it through Sean Combs himself. 395 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 9: He also talked about seeing Jane very frequently and he 396 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 9: would set up these king Knights for Ditty and Jane, 397 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 9: And during Brian Steele's cross examination, Steele said to him, 398 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 9: did you speak to Jane. 399 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 10: After these Wild king Knights? 400 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 9: And he said yes, And then Brian Steele would ask 401 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 9: did she seem like she was regretful or she didn't 402 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:43,199 Speaker 9: want to be there? Did you sense anything like that 403 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 9: from her? And Brendan Paul's answer was absolutely not. Brendan 404 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 9: Paul also spoke about an occasion where Ditty had asked 405 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 9: him to try a drug for him, and he wanted 406 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,719 Speaker 9: him to try it so he could see if it 407 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 9: was good or not. And Brendan Paul said that he 408 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 9: did this, but he'd did this because he wanted to 409 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 9: be loyal to Diddy. 410 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 5: We are alive at the Monahan Federal Courthouse where Shawn 411 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 5: Combs aka Ditty and many other names, is on trial 412 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 5: facing prosecution in a Multicut federal indictment including charges for 413 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:19,479 Speaker 5: sex trafficking. And Rico joining me at the courthouse. Tisa 414 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 5: Tels investigator and star off Tisa tales on YouTube. 415 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 2: I understand the. 416 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 5: Judge is furious about a leak. A leak, Tisa. 417 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 7: What happened, guys, what happened in the courtroom today shocked everybody. 418 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 7: Judge Aaron is done playing nice. He went in there 419 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 7: with his cloak flying behind the way. He was Lord 420 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 7: Voldemort coming to Hogwarts. He literally accused the defense council 421 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 7: and a little bit the prosecution. 422 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 6: Accused them of lying and leaking. 423 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 7: Information that can only been available to the people in 424 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 7: a sealed courtroom. 425 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 6: It was incredible. 426 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 7: On top of that, Diddy's team set they're going to 427 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,679 Speaker 7: rest their case in two to five trial days. 428 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 6: I don't even know what that means. 429 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 7: However, there was a leak that actually came out from 430 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 7: people that were in a closed seal courtroom. 431 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 6: The only people there were the defense and the prosecution. 432 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 7: The issue was an article. There was an article that 433 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 7: was actually published. The judge hinted that it was last night. 434 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 7: He didn't tell us what it was, and he said 435 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,919 Speaker 7: the source of the article had to be one of 436 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 7: the parties because again it was a closed courtroom, nobody 437 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 7: was supposed to know about it, and it was under 438 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 7: federal court ordered. Now again, the prosecution was like, it's 439 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 7: not us, your honor. However, the judge literally hammered Mark Agnifilio, 440 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 7: the lead council for DIDI, saying when. 441 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 6: Did you find out about this article? 442 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 7: Mark Agnophilio sat there, I don't know, stumbling over his words. 443 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 7: Then the judge said, but when were you made aware? 444 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 6: He still didn't know. 445 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 7: Finally he said, oh, we think when the prosecution sent 446 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 7: it to US. Marine Collmy literally looked like, what do 447 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 7: you mean we They were caught flat footed. They didn't 448 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 7: have any excuses. The judge finally said, listen, do you 449 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 7: know what's going to happen moving forward? 450 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 6: First of all, he said he has the right to 451 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 6: open up an investigation. He said, this is serious, he said, 452 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 6: moving forward. 453 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 7: If this happens again, he will, they will literally seize phones, 454 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 7: they will conduct a thorough investigation. They will uh, they 455 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 7: will literally question all parties under penalty of perjury, and 456 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 7: they will get to the bottom of those leaks. He said, 457 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 7: moving forward though he is putting the defense and prosecution, 458 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 7: but everybody knew he was talking to the defense on 459 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,400 Speaker 7: on notice that if any leaks come out of their count, 460 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 7: if anything is signed off on, and anything escapes, then 461 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 7: they are holding the lead prosecutor or defense attorney accountable 462 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 7: for anything that happens in their count. 463 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 6: Judge Aaron means business. It was. It was. It was 464 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 6: shocking what happened in the courtroom. 465 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 5: You do not want to be the source of a leak, 466 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 5: and you don't want anybody on your team to be responsible. 467 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 2: And that goes right down to the law. 468 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 5: Clerks and the summer interns that may have xerox papers 469 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 5: or hand it over discovery, because it reflects on you. 470 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 5: And once you lose your credibility in the courtroom technical 471 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 5: legal term. 472 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 2: You're screwed. End of story. 473 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 5: Now, we just heard from Tisa Tales joining us at 474 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 5: the courthouse that the defense has now dropped their own bomb, 475 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 5: stating they're only going to put up two to five 476 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 5: days of defense witnesses straight out to Brian Fitzgibbons. Joining 477 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 5: us Director Operations, USPA nation Wide Security, he leads a 478 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 5: team of investigators. 479 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 2: Brian, welcome back, Thank you for. 480 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 5: Being with us. You and I have been in a 481 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 5: lot of cases. You has witnessed me as the prosecutor. 482 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 5: The defense always does it. Sadly, it took me about 483 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 5: ten years to catch on to it. I would always 484 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 5: believe them when they would say, oh, we're going to 485 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 5: be at least two or three weeks, and it never 486 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 5: was two or three weeks. But I would always take 487 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 5: them at their word and arrange my rebuttal witnesses to 488 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 5: come to town or to show up at the courthouse 489 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,120 Speaker 5: in two or three weeks. And then sudden they go, oh, no, yeah, 490 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 5: it's just going to be like two days. And it's 491 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 5: a way to catch the state flat footed. But I 492 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 5: think it's also, again pardon the pun, puffing up when 493 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 5: you make your case to be. 494 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 2: More substantial than it really is going to be. 495 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 5: Have you ever and all the times you've testified, fitz 496 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 5: Gibbons seen the defense put on the length of a 497 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 5: case they promise up front, Ever, No. 498 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 14: I think you make a great point, Nancy. What the 499 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 14: defense is going to do here is, you know they've 500 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:51,239 Speaker 14: used their private investigators, and they're going to present a 501 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 14: simple shortcase to promote reasonable doubt. Right, to keep it 502 00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 14: simple for the jury and point out where they're flaws 503 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 14: in the prosecution's case and provide that reasonable doubt. 504 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 6: The worst Netflix until in the world. 505 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 9: Two hundred bottles of baby oil and nine hundred bottles 506 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 9: of astroblide. 507 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:18,880 Speaker 2: Hold it right there, r your bad breath in rhino peels. 508 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 5: He's in control of everything, beat her and subjected her 509 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 5: to three male escorts. 510 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 2: She was the sex sleeve, and. 511 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 5: He's asking for his very own dateline special. 512 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 2: I just want to wash my mouth out. 513 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 5: With lestrine, with lysol, with rubbing alcohol after I talk 514 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 5: about the Sean Combe's case. And I suspect some of 515 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,360 Speaker 5: the jurors feel the same way because when they were 516 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 5: watching the States exhibit triple X the freak Cough videos, 517 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 5: they were actually turning away from the monitor, went sing 518 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 5: visibly hiding their faces. 519 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 2: Do you blame them? 520 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:03,360 Speaker 5: But now may freakof Christmas? Everybody? 521 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 15: Special Agent Penland also reads texts from January twenty thirteen, 522 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 15: where Combs ask Cassie Ventura if she wants to celebrate 523 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 15: a late Christmas with a four man freakoff. Comb's text Adventura, 524 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,959 Speaker 15: word for word, want to celebrate Christmas and have a 525 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,360 Speaker 15: freak off tomorrow or Friday. Ventura then got to work 526 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 15: hiring the men with staggered arrivals for January eleventh and twelfth, 527 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 15: reaching out to three men personally and arranging for the 528 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 15: fourth from an escort service. 529 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 5: Doctor Bethany Marshall again, I need a shrink and a drink, 530 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 5: but says so'm I tey to len how to settle 531 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 5: for just a shrink? 532 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 2: Did you hear that? 533 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 5: Guy's Bethany Marshall. Doctor Bethany Marshall joining us out of 534 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 5: the LA jurisdiction. She is the author of deal Breaker. 535 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 5: You can see her now on peacock and you can 536 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 5: find her at Doctorbethany Marshall dot com. 537 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 2: Did you hear that Merry Christmas? 538 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 5: You want to celebrate a late Christmas with a four 539 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 5: man freak cough? In other words, you have sex with 540 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 5: four sex workers? 541 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 2: You know, Nancy? 542 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 3: I hear somebody who's compulsive and addicted in terms of 543 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 3: compulsivity sex addiction. One of the things we know about 544 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 3: sex addiction is that the thoughts of sex or whatever 545 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,959 Speaker 3: the fetishized view of sex is, becomes so prominent in 546 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 3: the perpetrator's mind that they often can't focus. Often they 547 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 3: can't even hold down a job, or they present as 548 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 3: somebody with attention deficit disorder because their mind keeps drifting 549 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 3: to sex. And then in terms of addiction, you know, 550 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,719 Speaker 3: we think of sex as driving these free coughs, but 551 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 3: there's so much drugs involved. And I hear in the 552 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 3: testimony that he'll say, you know, I'll be up for 553 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 3: twenty four hours or forty eight hours, or there's some 554 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 3: chatter back and forth and the text about that. And 555 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 3: to me, Nancy, I think methaphetamine that's the one drug 556 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 3: that could keep somebody up for that many days. And 557 00:29:56,080 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 3: we know with methamphetamine, especially in homicide, there's often overkill. 558 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 3: So if he already likes power and violence and he's 559 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 3: on meth, that's even going to ratchet up a level. 560 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 3: And Nancy real quickly the jurors wincing. Wincing is an 561 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 3: instinctual response to loss of life. It's like seeing a 562 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 3: plane fall out of the sky or a big dog barking, 563 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 3: or a spider or someone ejected from a car. If 564 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 3: they are wincing, they're not just viewing sex, They're viewing battery. 565 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 3: What is being done to these women? Are they being sodomized? 566 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 3: Are they being chained in compromising positions? Are they so 567 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 3: out of it they don't know what's happening? 568 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 6: Then? 569 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 3: Are they being whipped? I would be so curious to 570 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 3: know what are they seeing that is life threatening? 571 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 5: The way you just said that, Doctor Bethany, it's overwhelming, 572 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,959 Speaker 5: It really is, because those videos are placing the jurors 573 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 5: at the freak offs and Linshaw joining me, founder director 574 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 5: of Lynn's Warriors, an organization committed to ending sex trafficking 575 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 5: and sex abuse of women and girls. When I say 576 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 5: the words freak cough, it's like eating a dirt sandwich, 577 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 5: free cough, hotel night, king night. Wow, that's certainly airbrushing 578 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 5: the whole scenario, putting perfume on the pig. It's torture, 579 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 5: it's sex abuse, it's coerced rape. 580 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 2: Free cough. That sounds like it could be a music festival. 581 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: Hotel night. 582 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 5: That sounds like a fun getaway right where the twins 583 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 5: and I would camp out on the bed, order room service, 584 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 5: woo right and King Night. 585 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,719 Speaker 6: It's anything but that for the victims. 586 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 4: Has anyone heard of sexual servitude? This is part with 587 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 4: the justice system now we are working into sex trafficking. 588 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 4: It is coercion, is force, it is fraud, sexual servitude. 589 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,959 Speaker 4: We've seen the testimony. We've heard they were forced into this, 590 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 4: they were under the influence, they were threatened with their lives, 591 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 4: family members were threatened. We've heard so much. This dirty 592 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 4: ditty freak fest is a great, big fu not only 593 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 4: to all of us, but to all of the alleged 594 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 4: victims of his and to all all of the victims 595 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 4: of any sort of sexual exploitation and abuse across America, 596 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 4: across the globe. And you know what, this is his playbook. 597 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 4: I keep going back to thinking he's smiling, he's thinking 598 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 4: he won, because you know what his playbook is money talks, 599 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 4: crime walks. I'm very concerned about this because we've got 600 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 4: to think about and we're not talking enough about them, 601 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 4: the victims. Where is this Christina Korum, I've been asking 602 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 4: for weeks now, is she going to testify it? 603 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 5: She is? 604 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 3: She isn't. 605 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 4: We don't know why isn't she testifying she is the 606 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 4: right hand. We have proof, we have text messages she 607 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 4: knew about this. We need more information, but you. 608 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 2: Know what, the women. 609 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 4: The bottom line here is all of these alleged victims, 610 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 4: survivors of this dirty Diddy degenerate. Their lives will never 611 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 4: be the same. We may never know names hear from them. 612 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 4: Their lives are ruined because you know what, you don't 613 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,959 Speaker 4: get over abuse like this. But I want everybody to 614 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 4: know about sexual servitude equals sex trafficking. 615 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 7: If somehow he pulls out a not guilty verdict, he 616 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 7: is going to be hell on wills. 617 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 5: Okay, I don't like when you say if he's found 618 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 5: not guilty, he's going to be hell on wheels because 619 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 5: I'm totally getting my car car bomb like kid Cuddy. 620 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no coming. 621 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 5: Back from the Dye Bead, Diddy and Thedity wand I've 622 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 5: gotten them all here. 623 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna come after me. 624 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. 625 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 5: Straight out to TISA Tails joining us at the Monahan 626 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 5: Federal Courthouse where Shawn Combs is being tried on a 627 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 5: multi count federal indictment. TISA the Star off TASA tales 628 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 5: on YouTube TISA, what is the latest? 629 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 6: The government is this close to resting their case. 630 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 7: Brenden Pahl is this close to testifying and putting the 631 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 7: final screws in. 632 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,800 Speaker 6: On Didty's whole Weikle operation. 633 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 7: And also people are saying they're gonna he's gonna pull 634 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:23,439 Speaker 7: KK into the fray two. Yes, Diddy's Jeffrey Epstein will 635 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 7: have his same Maxwell. 636 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 6: Name, Christina Korum. But why is this so odd? 637 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 7: Because first of all, yes, I thought the same thing 638 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 7: you did. Where was Diddy when this happened? That's right, 639 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 7: He's locked up in the MDC. However, you couldn't write this. 640 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,439 Speaker 7: Diddy's team in an astonishing move, the judge acts, does 641 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 7: anybody have any objection to the juror coming back on Friday? 642 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 7: The prosecution, no objection, your honor Diddy. Well, Yana, we 643 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 7: need to talk to our client. We all said, what 644 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 7: do you need to talk about? The juror has assured 645 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 7: the judge that he will be fine from his vertigo 646 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 7: and be back Friday morning. 647 00:34:58,600 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 6: Okay. 648 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 7: Diddy's team then confirmed and said they wanted a sidebar 649 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 7: because they have further questions about medical. 650 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 6: Now, why is this so important? 651 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 13: Well? 652 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 6: Think about it. Diddy has been trying his best. 653 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,359 Speaker 7: To make a connection with jurors he wanted during number 654 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 7: six to stay, he wants during number seven out. I 655 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 7: think it's fair to assume that he does not have 656 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 7: that special connection with during number seven. However, if they 657 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 7: can get this third dur out on medical grounds because 658 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 7: it's almost a home stretcher, they get sick again. 659 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 6: Who knows then this alternate. 660 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 7: And whoever it is did he must also think he 661 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,760 Speaker 7: has a special connection with He can pull that alternate 662 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 7: down and he thinks he can increase his chances. 663 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 6: If not for a not guilty. 664 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 7: Verdict, because let's be rolled, that's not happening, but pull 665 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 7: it in so that he can actually get this mistrial 666 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 7: that he has been begging and waiting, or at the 667 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 7: very least have better grounds for an appeal. 668 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 6: So why is this so shocking? 669 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,839 Speaker 7: Well, for one, Judge Aaron has yet to tell us 670 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 7: what's going on with again, Judge Aaron has been exceedingly fair. 671 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 7: He's expected to rule on during number seven on Friday. 672 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 7: That's if this mysterious sick juror actually. 673 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:11,800 Speaker 6: Comes in again. 674 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 7: Diddy has made it very clear who he thinks he 675 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 7: has a special connection with and today he put the 676 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 7: wills in motion to try to find some medical ground 677 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 7: to strike this juror out and to pull this alternate 678 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 7: that Diddy has his eyeset on again. A lot of 679 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 7: court intrigue, a lot going on. We hope the dur 680 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 7: is okay, but for right now we are waiting and 681 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 7: bait it breath for what the judge decides on during 682 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 7: number seven and if Diddy's team was able to find 683 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:44,799 Speaker 7: a medical excuse to dismiss this third juror and pull 684 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,879 Speaker 7: in that alternate that Diddy has been making googly eyes at. 685 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 5: Joining us now outside the Monahan Federal Courthouse, Lauren Colin, 686 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 5: investigative reporter and start a pop crime TV on YouTube. 687 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,359 Speaker 2: Lauren, thank you for being with us. 688 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 5: Witness after witness, excruciating detail after excruciating detail, multiple. 689 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 2: Motions for miss trial by the defense. 690 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 1: What do you make of it? 691 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 12: Yes? 692 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 10: I think I speak for everyone here. 693 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 9: We are very relieved to be moving on and having 694 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 9: the defense start their case in chief. I think a 695 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 9: lot of people are anxious for the witness list as well. 696 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 9: We've already learned of a couple witnesses, and I believe 697 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 9: the first witness will be a bad boy employee who 698 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:35,719 Speaker 9: is in charge of HR. The government has inferred numerous 699 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 9: times that the bad boy HR department wasn't necessarily quote 700 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 9: unquote real, that they just did more of Sean Colmes's bidding. 701 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,399 Speaker 9: So I guess we'll wait and see when when this 702 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:50,400 Speaker 9: person takes the stand and Nancy. There seems to be 703 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 9: a lot going on behind the scenes as well. The 704 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 9: judge has been not super happy with the defense and 705 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 9: the government as inform has seemed to be leaked to 706 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:02,240 Speaker 9: the press. 707 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,800 Speaker 10: I mean, it's been never a dull moment. 708 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 5: Garry, Philip Dubay. Everybody hates HR. I mean, is there 709 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 5: anybody on the panel that likes HR human resources? When 710 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,760 Speaker 5: you see the Human Resources lady coming down the hall, everybody. 711 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,799 Speaker 2: Goes, oh, no, who did what wrong? Now somebody did 712 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 2: so do Bay? 713 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 10: I don't know. 714 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,360 Speaker 5: Calling HR as a star witness is that wise? And 715 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:36,239 Speaker 5: plus an HR witness from bad Boy records who's been 716 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 5: authorizing they Let's see extortion payment. 717 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:40,799 Speaker 2: Correct me if I'm wrong. 718 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 5: Lauren Conlin in Cidney summer the extortion payment to Cassie 719 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 5: Ventura's mother where they want a twenty grand and the 720 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 5: quid pro quo was not leaking orgy videos, freak off 721 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,279 Speaker 5: videos of their daughter who was just starting in her 722 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 5: music career. That was through bad Boy records, all the 723 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 5: casts that float through them, that the sex workers were 724 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 5: paid with the buying their drugs buy bad Boy employees. 725 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 2: I mean, you're putting up a. 726 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 5: Bad boy h R person that cross examination ouch, I mean, 727 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,360 Speaker 5: is that the way to kick a case off debate 728 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,920 Speaker 5: as one of your star witnesses. 729 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,880 Speaker 16: Of course, it is one of the best kept secrets 730 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,520 Speaker 16: about HR in every corporation, in every business throughout America 731 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 16: is they're there to protect the company. They don't really 732 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,359 Speaker 16: care about employee interests. As a practical matter, they do 733 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 16: damage control, risk management. They try to assess what if 734 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,800 Speaker 16: anything that's getting reported to them or what if anything 735 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:49,360 Speaker 16: they've observed could put the company at risk of liability. 736 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 16: So they're not going to say or do anything that 737 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 16: could harm the company because that's where their loyalty lies. 738 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 5: Okay, you're still pretending that this is a company instead 739 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 5: of Sean Combe's alt ego to doctor Bethany Marshall joining 740 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,880 Speaker 5: us renow, it's like the analysts out of the LA Jurisdiction, 741 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,960 Speaker 5: author of deal Breakers. You can see her on Peacock 742 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 5: and find her at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com. Why 743 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,320 Speaker 5: does everybody hate HR? 744 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 3: You know, Nancy, most of my patients who come in 745 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 3: with major depressive disorder or sudden psychiatric symptoms, often they've 746 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:24,319 Speaker 3: gotten into trouble with their companies and HR has come 747 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:28,240 Speaker 3: in and confronted them. And Philip Dubay is right. HR 748 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 3: is always on the side of the company. Although, as 749 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 3: you pointed out, what company right? So this is basically 750 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 3: HR doing pdd's bidding. But it's not a good idea. 751 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 3: It's not a good look when you see HR coming 752 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,880 Speaker 3: down the hall, and also when you get in trouble 753 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 3: with HR, everybody else knows about And whenever I submit 754 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,799 Speaker 3: insurance claims, my patient's first question is are they going 755 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,719 Speaker 3: to find out about this in HR? They're terrified of HR? 756 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:59,360 Speaker 2: And you know what's so interesting, I don't know? Interesting 757 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 2: is the right world? 758 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 5: Let me say sham Lynn Shaw joining me, founder executive 759 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:09,279 Speaker 5: director Lynn's Warriors, committed to ending sex trafficking and sex 760 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 5: abuse of girls and Women's really the head of h 761 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 5: R in a sex trafficking case? 762 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,360 Speaker 2: Where was h R when all of this was happening. 763 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, HR equals hell racket exactly, Nancy, where were they when, 764 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,359 Speaker 4: in my opinion, this is nothing more of this bad 765 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 4: boy worldwide Entertainment production company with their names splattered all 766 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,360 Speaker 4: over this skyscraper down the street from me here in 767 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:41,880 Speaker 4: New York was doing all these things to these victims, 768 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 4: alleged victims and these women. Where were they to step 769 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,839 Speaker 4: in and say, hey, you know, if this was even 770 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,720 Speaker 4: a legitimate business, which I don't think it was at all, 771 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:55,239 Speaker 4: where you can't do this, dirty diddy, because this will 772 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 4: affect business, and I use that loosely business. You better 773 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 4: stop with these women, You better clean up your act. 774 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 4: Nobody did anything. This is such a criminal enterprise. I 775 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 4: can clearly see it. It is the playbook vulnerable people, 776 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:15,360 Speaker 4: powerful people over less fortunate people. So this hell racket 777 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,319 Speaker 4: equals HR is a big zero. I bet you there 778 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 4: was no office, no HR, no anything. He had one 779 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,440 Speaker 4: or two people that were there to protect dirty Ditty 780 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,840 Speaker 4: and the enterprise, the criminal enterprise, in my opinion, So 781 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 4: let's put the focus back on victims and survivors of 782 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 4: this dirty ditty and all victims and survivors of sexual exploitation. 783 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,400 Speaker 4: Where's the HR companies, for all of them, they. 784 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:39,120 Speaker 2: Do not exist. 785 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 4: Dirty ditty done, going down that hell racket. No HR 786 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 4: in that big building down the street. 787 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:49,319 Speaker 5: We are waiting as justice unfolds. Thank you to our guests, 788 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,280 Speaker 5: but especially you for being with us. Nancy Gray signing off, 789 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 5: I'll see you tomorrow night, six and nine o'clock sharp 790 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:55,759 Speaker 5: Eastern end. 791 00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:57,880 Speaker 2: Until then, good night friend. 792 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:00,520 Speaker 7: This is